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Sincere confusion here. I honestly don't see the point of using edit summaries on talk or discussion pages. What am I going to say - "reply to (x)"? "answered question"? Those are empty and devoid of information. Copying the comment to the edit summary? Those types of edits really stand much better in context (and it's, as you said, a pain to do on mobile, from which I edit a majority of the time); I don't see why having to review the edits is a bad thing given the places where I don't tend to leave edit summaries are in active conversations. I agree that it's useful on articles and other non-discussion pages, but I'm having trouble comprehending the rest. ansh 666 08:22, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi SoWhy, I'd like to thank you again for your input into my last RfA candidate poll. After a few months, I have worked on improving my CSD nominations, and have made considerable progress ( CSD log). I've also helped to develop an article review flowchart for New Page Patrol, this process I feel has helped improve my understanding of CSD criteria immensely (and hopefully it can help others too). Anything else you would recommend that I should do to further improve? Also, any feedback on my CSD log or the aforementioned flowchart is welcomed. Thanks for your time. — InsertCleverPhraseHere ( or here) 23:27, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi SoWhy, thank you for your comments at my RfA and here. Your feedback is much appreciated, and I'm glad you took the time to give it. Cheers, ansh 666 00:11, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
claims coverage in RS. What is RS here? -- Innocent bystander ( talk) 05:39, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Template:Administrator review has been
nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at
the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ten Pound Hammer • (
What did I screw up now?)
05:47, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Elisa Jordana. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -- Eng. M.Bandara -Talk 06:30, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Just thought of what might be a confounding variable for your stats if you are still keeping track of them: WP:PAGESWAP. It works by moving the initial page to Draft:Move/NAME without leaving a redirect. Its become the default tool for page movers when executing round-robins, so I'm not sure how much noise it would cause. TonyBallioni ( talk) 18:23, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
I have a great article with credible materials and references to add to the Arman Vino page, But this page is closed and I can not add content. Please help. Hejazi.sina123 ( talk) 18:15, 29 September 2017 (UTC) My account is 31 days old and I have done 13 edits, but my account was not automatically approved according to Wikipedia policy. Hejazi.sina123 ( talk) 18:15, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi, AKD Group AfD result closed by you as a "Keep". The matter was never relisted to generate more comments and none of the responses provided references that demonstrate notability and meet the appropriate guidelines to establish notability. I opened another AfD shortly thereafter bringing this point up but it was closed with a "Procedural Keep" and noted that DRV was the correct way forward. Part of the DRV process is first of all to simply discuss the original result with the editor that closed the matter. (slaps forehead) Which is something I didn't do. If possible, can you please reopen the AfD for the following reasons. There were ony three participants in total, and more importantly, no proper arguments were put forward to demonstrate notability (based on policy and/or guidelines). Furthermore, the references produced all fail the criteria for establishing notability WP:NCORP as noted by OP. Thank you. -- HighKing ++ 15:57, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
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Your wording for the RfC on Template talk:Unreferenced
In 2010, an RFC at Template talk:Refimprove (archive link) was used as a reason to remove the addition of a {{ find sources}} style text in this template. Even then, some people in that RFC advocated adding a finding sources text to this template. Now, after seven years have passed, I propose again that we add such links to the template (test example: Template:Unreferenced/sandbox) because they make it easier for new and experienced editors alike to find sources easily. Regards
is biased. Specifically (1) "Even then, some people in that RFC advocated adding a finding sources text to this template". and (2) "because they make it easier for new and experienced editors alike to find sources easily"
The reason why this is biased is because the RfC was a snow in favour or removal and you have not mentioned that. The second is an opinion. Add it to a support as nominator if you wish but it should not be in the RfC.
It is also bloated by "Now, after seven years have passed" you have mentioned that the last RfC was in 2010 even those who have problems with remedial maths can take 10 away from 17 so that phrase it not neccessary.
I am making this request under WP:RfC#Statement should be neutral and brief and under WP:RfC#Suggestions for responding "If you feel an RfC is improperly worded, ask the originator to improve the wording, or add an alternative unbiased statement immediately below the RfC question template." if you do not change the wrording as suggested then I will add "an alternative unbiased statement immediately below the RfC question". -- PBS ( talk) 09:05, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
Dear Sir,
it's a great shame I missed the discussion on the deletion status of the biography page on Mike Sutton (criminologist). If I had taken part, I hope that I could have contributed. Having collected 18 months worth of evidence showing multiple examples of misconduct by this individual, atrocious research abilities and extensive abuse of fellow academics, I am disappointed to see his personal page removed from the deletion list. Comprehensive refutation of his claims against Darwin and Wallace, plus many of his "myth busts" are presented via 3 websites: Sutton Who?, Natural Histories, and the Patrick Matthew Project.
Sutton has been aggressively trying to get his ideas onto Wikipedia for years, taken on different anonymous accounts (there is a record of his sock puppetry), and has an anti-wikipedia editors hate campaign documented on one of his several blog sites.
Sutton is very much driven by ambition and pride. His Wikipedia page fuels his egocentricity, more so than it should considering it was entirely his own composition until recently, when I began following the flagged recommendations for the page, and edited some of the self aggrandisement. However, the page should be removed as it was created and written by him at the outset, and remained so for years. Any statement of importance or significance of his research is solely his own inflated opinion of himself, or selective cherrypicking from more critical sources than he is willing to admit.
As evidence that he was the sole author of several pages created to forward his agenda and raise his profile, he kindly lists his Wikipedia page and others he has created under his publications section on page 21 of his 25-page CV. There is no question that it goes beyond the impartial outlook supposed to be enforced on Wikipedia. Please can we have another look at this case?
Thank you and best wishes, Jfderry ( talk) 12:43, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi, first I would like to explain how I reached at your user talk page. I saw you at Wikipedia:adopt-a-user and wants to take you as my mentor to learn new thing about wikipedia. I would like to work in the areas of vandalism, new page patroller and wants to maintain wikipedia a reliable source of information. Thanks – 1997 kB 13:23, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi! I am a new user at Wikipedia, trying to help Wikipedia be a better place by adding information and creating pages for uncovered topics. For example, I am trying to make a page about "bomb jokes", but I can't do this without help, so I'm asking you to adopt me and be my mentor. Thank you. WarriorFISH ( talk) 00:00, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
Lol, why did you nominate the main page for deletion? NikolaiHo ☎️ 01:06, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello SoWhy. Good work on your contributions to the English Wikipedia. I am contacting you basically because you are one of the most resourceful editor have seen and so look up to you. I recently craeted a page as paet of my project to put young Nigerians doing exploit in their various sphere and who meet notability criteria on the English Wikipedia. But earlier today user:Gbawden nominated it for speedy deletion based on being promotional. Please, i need you to take a look at the article and help review it. Thanks Kaizenify ( talk) 09:46, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
{{
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on my talk page, I automatically get a notification for new messages here. Regards
So
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10:44, 12 October 2017 (UTC)Thank you so much for your help especially for your very friendly and accommodating response. However, I saw the multiple issues raised on the page and have started fixing it. First, I have reduced the no of images and added more independent reference. So will the tag be remove automatically when all this is done? Kaizenify ( talk) 13:05, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
I wish I could have made that alliterative. Anyway.
SoWhy, you have absolutely nothing to do with the situation I am about to describe, but you are a fellow admin whose opinion I trust when it comes guideline interpretation so I thought I would seek you out. Buried in this enormous, crazy, madness-inducing ANI report is the revelation that Winged Blades of Godric went back to an RFC that he had closed multiple times and amended the reasoning for his closing decision. I was somewhat flabbergasted by this, as it appears to fly in the face of the completely unambiguous wording of the discussion closing template. Godric replied by telling me that post-closing changes to rationales are completely commonplace. I'm flabbergasted by that, but rather than make an issue of it, I thought I'd seek out an uninvolved opinion. Thanks in advance if you take the time to read and respond. A Train talk 10:13, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
is the revelation that.....for they seem to imply (to me) as if I had been trying to hide something for a while:) Winged Blades of Godric On leave 12:56, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
Dear So Why, 12 Inches of Sin was brought to my attention. Many artists refer to the page and I have been receiving many inquiries regarding its status. I see that there is a notice that this may require a cleanup. I am unfamiliar as to how this may be done and by whom. Can you please advise? I saw your name as a person who recently worked on the article. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8801:3200:156:4495:325E:AC7D:2F37 ( talk) 17:31, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
Dear so why I wrote the aedp article and I missed the discussion to delete it by two days. Below is my rebuttal. Please reconsider. Where is the article. I don't think I have the complete as it is document on my computer, as i did a lot of the work in the edit space. Please read my rebuttal. Hi Cordless Larry I just saw that aedp article is being discussed to be deleted. I didn't get a notification and just saw this now. Obviously I am very upset, as that is a year of work for me and I had addressed the issues that are under discussion already. I would like to address the issues but I don't know how to join that discussion. If I go to edit, there is no room for me to write, and I don't want to move anything around. But here goes if you can please share:
1. Of course I am a student of AEDP, how else could I understand the topic. And yes, diana fosha mentioned me in a footnote in her book but that was to acknowledge that I had written up the transcript of a session she showed, that she had in fact written in the article and that was my transcription! So I am her associate to the extent that a student is an associate of a principal.
3. There are quite a few newer references that further support the notability of aedp since the article was posted a year ago.
4. how can it be written like a personal essay and also be written as a textbook
it can't be written any way other than it is written because i have followed the advised wikipedia practice of writing from the point of view of verifiable and notable sources. the sources are highly conceptual and research based, so of course its going to follow that tone. Believe me there is no way i can think of to make the content any more accessible without "dumbing it down." I think if I were to try to read an entry on sub-particle physics, i would not understand it,but I would be disappointed in wikipedia if it was written for a 6th grader to understand (as is the reading level that is advised for many non-scholarly writing).
5. students/therapists/psychotherapy researcher, psychologists are coming across AEDP in many writings. In the last year the citations to her work have increased significantly. I think turning to wikipedia to understand what this is,
is what wikipedia is for. I love wikipedia. And what i wrote is exactly what I would have wanted to find.
6. why is someone hopping on coherence therapy - its a reference.
7. that AEDP is one of the model of therapy considered mainstream and of importance and promoted by APA on its website, with a dvd, is testimony to its notability. And as someone said, if Diana fosha is notable, why isn't aedp?
8. Please do not let them delete AEDP article. Carrieruggieri (talk) 01:10, 22 October 2017 (UTC) Carrieruggieri (talk) 01:11, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
9. as to WP:neutral point of view: there is not a section on critique because contemporary psychotherapies are not critiqued without the perspective of decades to reflect upon the theoretical zeitgeist of the times. We are in an emotion focused era. Maybe in 20 years we will be neuro-focused. For example, cognitive therapist are being critiqued because they are being re-examined from the new emotion focused perspective.
10. Everything I have written comes from a reference. there is not a single sentence that is not reference. How can it not be neutral.
11. all sources lead back to fosha: that is why there is a fosha article that you accepted. She is the originator. There are many article that are written about aedp that are independent and contribute something original, but of course they are going to reference fosha.
12. Much is being made of the word institute. What if it was AEDP school?
13. Much is being made of the quality of web-site. Really?
14. No AEDP and other integrative therapies will not be collapsed. The effort in writing the aedp article was in demonstrating its unique contributions and its unique theory.
15. most of the references are secondary and 3rd party. Few are primary. so I contest that critique. You cannot know what is secondary and 3rd party unless you know the literature I suppose. Isn't there someone here who has a psychology background?
Carrieruggieri ( talk) 01:40, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
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For you excellent explanatory close at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EatOye (2nd nomination).Cheers :) Winged Blades of Godric On leave 11:23, 24 October 2017 (UTC) |
Hi SoWhy, the page Inanna Sarkis got deleted because there was not enough reliable sources. Now, I can find articles on Forbes, Tubefilter and other sources about Inanna Sarkis. She is not just a Youtuber, but also participated in a big screen movie. Can I get this page back? Thank you. -- Nexthh87 ( talk) 19:15, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
The article Global Challenges Foundation has been put through AfD again just days after you closed the previuous discussion. For me the user should have discussed this on the articles talk page. I thought I better tell you, otherwise let the AfD proceed I guess. But in my opinion it is too soon to instigate a new AfD just days after the first AfD was closed.-- BabbaQ ( talk) 08:51, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello SoWhy:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable
Halloween!
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19:04, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
... Regarding my RFAR question, I didn't really think that through, and I realized it immediately after posting it, but since I had pinged people I left it there. Also, the AfD was closed after less than two days, which was sort of an oddity in itself. Cheers, Softlavender ( talk) 15:44, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 11:14, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
how was it possible to delete it in the existence of 5 most reliable sources? can you plz, help me in this regard to review it again with neutrality and fairness. i paste here the comment of
A splendid poetry collection. Daily Times.
This source, which is authored by Amjad Parvez, sums up their poetry career along with discussing their book (Zarb-e-Sukhan) comprehensively.
Urdu, surviving against odds. Daily Rising Kashmir: This source discusses the subject comprehensive along with discussing one of their books. BTW, the newspaper is in editorial oversight.
I can't read Urdu. So, I will only discuss their reliability & comprehensiveness, but Urdu-speaking participants are invited to translate & summarize their content at the article's talk page:
The multiple sources – [1], [2], [3] (dead link) – published by the Daily Jang definitely show notability. NitinMlk (talk) (
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ehsan_Sehgal_(3nd_nomination) )
- plz, read these sources.
- http://blogs.thenews.com.pk/blogs/2013/02/a-literary-look-at-2012/
- http://www.roznamadharti.com/holand_news/?view=002521.gif
- http://archive.is/bvmhS thanks. Moona Sehgal ( talk) 10:42, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi. I am considering going through the Wikipedia adoption program.
My primary focus area is in articles about local history and geography and such. My particular focus right now is in Clyde, Ohio, and I'm rewriting a large article that is concerned with it.
The reason I'm going through the adoption program is because I have not reached for help from other editors in the...like...2 years that I've been here. I read Wikipedia articles a lot in my daily life, and I'm very enthusiastic for it. Wikipedia is basically my downtime. I'm an avid reader of the site, so I think I know the tone quite well. (Compared to others around me IRL anyway) Wikipedia editing is like my calling, you know. Academic writing and history have always been my primary talents.
Anyway, apparently I am not as familiar with Wikipedia's processes as I thought I was, because, as one adopter said, it is extremely hard to get a grasp on them because there are so many and it is so complex. Often in dispute resolutions I have acted inappropriately, especially lately. Whenever someone deleted stuff I added I got very angry. I probably shouldn't have done that. My personality has been very irritable lately, since I have had a lot of stress in my life lately (personal stuff).
Mostly due to my autism disorder, I greatly lack maturity and discipline for my age. I'm like 10 years behind most people my age in that respect.
Anyway, since I am so enthusiastic about Wikipedia, and think it is one of the best collective projects in the world (honestly), I want to learn how to become a much more formal editor here. I wonder if the adoption program can help me greatly in that respect.
I would apologize to the users I've been irritable with, but there were so many of them. Well, I wasn't mean to them and I didn't like insult them personally, but I felt I was rude and highly informal. Basically a temper tantrum at times. My irritability is certainly nothing against them; it's just a personal issue. In discussion, I sometimes present the tone I say things in in ways I don't exactly mean them.
I want to get to the point where people take me seriously here.
Anyway, that's it. I hope you consider adopting me. Thank you. :)
(BTW if adoption can involve chatting on IRC, I would like that. If not it's okay.) Philmonte101 😊😄😞 ( talk) 07:54, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi SoWhy, I seen where you declined the speedy on Phillip Thompson Townsville, so I was going to cleanup the manual of style errors in it, but noticed that it looked very familiar. It's a copy of the same article I cleaned up last week Phillip Thompson. Both are created by different editors but the new one is obviously copied and pasted, right down to a small typo. I've never come across this before, and was wondering if you know what to do about this. Thanks. Cmr08 ( talk) 01:09, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
You were recently listed as a party to or recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct of Mister Wiki editors. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct of Mister Wiki editors/Evidence. Please add your evidence by December 15, 2017, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct of Mister Wiki editors/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Kostas20142 ( talk) 21:34, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
I don't quite understand why there are many very short articles on Wikipedia that are labelled as stubs, and then it says "you can help Wikipedia by expanding them." Reading Wikipedia:Stub, it says:
A stub is an article that, although providing some useful information, is too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of a subject, and that is capable of expansion. Non-article pages, such as disambiguation pages, lists, categories, templates, talk pages, and redirects, are not regarded as stubs. If a stub has little verifiable information, or if its subject has no apparent notability, it may be deleted or be merged into another relevant article.
But then we have articles about geographical locations, which have no apparent notability guidelines other than the fact that they exist AFAIK. There are a ton of geographical location articles that are labelled as stubs, such as North Monroeville, Ohio that I created recently.
So, the page encourages you to "expand" such articles. But, for articles of this type, you can't really expand them any further without adding unsourced content or extremely irrelevant information or something. The three sentences on that article are the only ones I could even come up with, as every other book or whatever that talks about N. Monroeville only briefly mentions it in a list or something like "Mr. Smith is from North Monroeville" or "went to school in North Monroeville", which are pretty irrelevant for an article.
So why should there be a label at the bottom that encourages people to "expand" an article that can't be expanded much, if any, further? I don't think North Monroeville will be anything more than a stub, ever. I do understand that there is always a possibility that new useful references could come for a topic such as these in future times, but isn't it more likely that a person could see "expand" as a way to add irrelevant or useless content to the article?
It's just a curiosity and something that's been bugging me lately. Thanks. PseudoSkull ( talk) 00:41, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
Can you explain your reasoning for not deleting Avisheak Paudel while a similar article I tagged, Satyam Rana, was deleted? It easily fails WP:CCOS, specifically the significance part. Nihlus 22:12, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi, actually that's not a true medal and sources are really really weak. -- Vituzzu ( talk) 11:40, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2017).
I noticed you're using CSDH - I updated it recently but don't really use it all that often. If you notice any major glitches let me know so that I can correct them. Thanks! Primefac ( talk) 12:37, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi. We're into the last five days of the Women in Red World Contest. There's a new bonus prize of $200 worth of books of your choice to win for creating the most new women biographies between 0:00 on the 26th and 23:59 on 30th November. If you've been contributing to the contest, thank you for your support, we've produced over 2000 articles. If you haven't contributed yet, we would appreciate you taking the time to add entries to our articles achievements list by the end of the month. Thank you, and if participating, good luck with the finale!
It took me a few times re-reading your close to understand that including the closing admin refers to the admin who closed the original AfD. My first thought was it meant the admin who closed the DRV, i.e. you. Perhaps you could update your statement to clarify that? Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:28, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
I'm considering quitting the encyclopedia. It doesn't seem like people think my work is good, even when I do my best.
Worst of all, though, some aren't nice about it at all. Some people today just told me that my hard work is full of BS, and that was pretty offensive and I took it personally. They didn't just say something like "it needs improvement". No they just said the whole thing is a lie. It was about my draft here, and it happened on talk page Talk:Clyde cancer cluster. All articles I write are based on my perception of how Wikipedia sounds, since I've read a lot of articles here; entire articles at that.
I'm probably more active on Wiktionary, or at least I once was. I've seen a few rude people on there (not gonna name names, since I forgive them now anyway), but damn I haven't ever seen anything like this before. I don't even know what to say. Isn't blatantly saying that someone's 2-year lengthy work is complete garbage a pretty decent way to scare away contributors for good? I must say it's sort of working, because I'm thinking about it now. I'm not trying to soapbox you or start drama or anything (even if I'm not succeeding at not doing that), but I need advice because man I feel like shit. I don't even know what to say or do anymore. PseudoSkull ( talk) 16:57, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
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Hi,
I've noticed that when a page is Create protected for persistent meeting of A7, the summary is Repeatedly recreated A7 article − non-notable person, organisation, etc.
. I think (for obvious reasons) this is misleading and should be changed. Is this within our power to do so, or is this something that can only be done by those of higher authority? Cheers.
Adam9007 (
talk)
20:10, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
On 27 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Good Omens (TV series), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that it took a posthumously-sent letter from Terry Pratchett to convince Neil Gaiman to create a Good Omens TV series without him? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Good Omens (TV series). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, Good Omens (TV series)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Alex Shih ( talk) 00:03, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
What more could I have done to prevent a close that says that I "didn't really mention[] any policy- or guideline-based argument [as to] why this was to be deleted rather than kept, merged or redirected per WP:ATD." Did you need me to identify DEL12 DEL14 and explain the relationship between WP:N DEL8 and ATD, and the difference between content and topic, and that DEL8 is a topic deletion, not a content deletion, whereas DEL12 DEL14 is content deletion? What we have here doesn't fail DEL8, but it fails WP:N and DEL12 DEL14.
Unscintillating (
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17:55, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
I have seen your email and replied. Sorry, I have generally been away for Christmas and New Year (and then got side tracked with my eldest on Raspberry Pi program and Matt Parker's "cool maths videos") so haven't done much work on WP. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:05, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
The article David Koresh Superstar has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Album by band deleted as not notable, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Indelicates
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
notice, but please explain why in your
edit summary or on
the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}}
will stop the
proposed deletion process, but other
deletion processes exist. In particular, the
speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and
articles for deletion allows discussion to reach
consensus for deletion.
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13:39, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi there
I've removed the PROD template from the Erika Csiszer article, after adding a reference that verifies that she is a Venezuelan TV host of the show on Telemundo. For good measure I added a basic infobox, a couple of wikilinks, and a category. Don't know enough about her to do any more. Hope that's ok. Tt 225 ( talk) 01:54, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
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Hi SoWhy,
Happy new year!
I was wondering what the story is on article
Brian McTernan. Why was his page moved
here? I started an article about him because he is at the top of the
Wikipedia:Most-wanted_articles. He is mentioned in 100+ articles in Wikipedia! Regards,
Mill 1 (
talk)
09:58, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
It only took 1 minute for User:Clain123 to re-create this article after you deleted it. I've re-tagged it for speedy deletion, but I doubt deleting it again will stop this user from re-creating it, especially as their user page and user talk pages both contain copies of the article. Iffy★ Chat -- 09:29, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
It was deleted but I'm pretty sure it was a redirect that got hijacked (i created it). Can you confirm and undelete if possible. Thanks WikiOriginal-9 ( talk) 23:13, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your work at SPI. Much appreciated. Montanabw (talk) 18:38, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Is there a Wikipedia policy I'm unaware of in favor of citation consolidation or that discourages primary sources? I thought more citations and primary sources made the article more interesting, but I may be missing something.
Thanks for your time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiiscool123 ( talk • contribs) 16:24, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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when posting to talk pages such as this one. Regards
So
Why
19:44, 9 January 2018 (UTC)Dear respectable SoWhy, I respect your contribution on Wikipedia your are such a great Administrator here who really know his job & give value of other new volunteers work and support them to grow. truly I am a fan of your work , when I will get a chance to serve as Administrator definitely you will be my inspiration.
Now i come to the point without taking your precious time I need your help to save an article Krimo Salem I think it meets Wikipedia criteria, you valuable action will be helpful for my wiki contribution.
Thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumitmpsd ( talk • contribs) 16:38, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I've been thinking about an article I made with less than a year of experience, 2016 Australian school bomb threats, and I'm not sure if it warrants an article. I feel like a case for WP:NOTNEWS could be made. I don't even think an article could be written about Evacuation Squad either, as they've only received a small amount of coverage outside this event: [6] [7] [8] [9]. (Never thought I'd be considering AfDing my own article). Anarchyte ( work | talk) 12:05, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi,
I saw your comment at
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The White Company (retailer) about editors not considering
WP:ATD, and thought I should say that that's nothing compared to
this AfD. In fact, it's because of discussions like that one (it's not the only one) I've been wondering for a while if we're missing something with regard to
WP:ATD? Maybe consensus is that it doesn't apply to speedy deletion? Of course, that directly contradicts
WP:CSD, which as good as says that it does, but still, I can't help but wonder...
Ta.
Adam9007 (
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00:21, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Could I ask you to check and, if necessary, update your availability details at Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user/Adoptee's Area/Adopters, please?
I've been updating that page, plus the list of over 100 people seeking adoption (which I've now stripped down to around 20 active editors genuinely seeking help.
I've been working to identify those Adopters who are currently available, and those who haven't been active on Wikipedia for a while. But I don't think the bot has been updating correctly, so a manual check from you would be really helpful. I've also made some suggestions and a few edits to make life easier for newcomers. I've put some of my observations down in answer to a recent post about inactivity of some Adopt-a-User Project contributors. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes ( talk) 00:44, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi SoWhy. I would like to know your reasoning behind reverting my redirect of Arabian Gulf Cup to Gulf Cup of Nations. There are only two competitions called Arabian Gulf Cup which are the Gulf Cup of Nations and UAE League Cup. As WP:DISAMBIGUATION states, "There are three principal disambiguation scenarios, of which the following are examples" with the third example being "The page at Michael Dobbs is about the primary topic, and there is only one other use. The other use is linked directly using a hatnote; no disambiguation page is needed". That is the situation here, as Gulf Cup of Nations is the primary topic and UAE League Cup is the secondary topic (if you look at 'What links here' on Arabian Gulf Cup you will see all the pages that link there are meant to link to Gulf Cup of Nations, whereas none link to UAE League Cup, showing that Gulf Cup of Nations is the primary topic, plus Gulf Cup of Nations has far more notability in independent reliable sources than UAE League Cup as a search engine test shows, and the Arabian Gulf Cup is only a temporary sponsorship name for UAE League Cup whereas it is a permanent official name for Gulf Cup of Nations). As WP:DISAMBIGUATION states, there is already a hatnote on Gulf Cup of Nations page to the UAE League Cup. Thus, Arabian Gulf Cup being a disambiguation page seems to go directly against Wikipedia policy at WP:DISAMBIGUATION, and I ask you change the page back to being a redirect to Gulf Cup of Nations. Thank you, Hashim-afc ( talk) 10:43, 29 January 2018 (UTC) Hashim-afc ( talk) 10:43, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
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Hi SoWhy, Greetings. Where could I find the deleted draft log either it was more than 6 months without review were done or during the time of creation, the subject/title had not created but when pattroller reveiw the page and found out the title page has been created for such deleting draft page - I understand only admin could read the content, but I wonder could I locate the log to know the creator name and the date of the creation. Kindly advise and thanks in advance. CASSIOPEIA( talk) 17:40, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Also, how would I able to find who was the creator prior the pages below were cut and page to a redirect page. If you could find them as an admin let me know, if there is a way I could find out, then please advise me how to do so. Thank you very much
(1)
Junior Albini and (2)
Sean O'Malley (fighter)
Thank you very much. CASSIOPEIA( talk) 19:21, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi SoWhy, Good day and thank you for trying to assist. @
Anthony Appleyard:, I will compile a list and will forward over when it is done. Some of the subjects above (the 18 above) have been attributed to the original creator (who had created the drafts first and was copied and pasted by Rickyc123 later to make his own). Will write again.
CASSIOPEIA(
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13:27, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
After all these years, I've finally written a serious article from scratch and am thinking of proposing it for DYK. Would you be willing to look at User:RoySmith/American Bank Note Company Printing Plant and give me your thoughts? Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:00, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
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Dear Sowhy Nikhil_chandwani article was deleted previously because of unreliable sources but now it has reliable references and fulfill Wikipedia criteria kindly take a positive action as per Wikipedia guidelines Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truembp ( talk • contribs) 10:47, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
May I ask on which basis the article about the band was considered non credible or irrelevant? I indicated various information sources and for me that is credibility. When there is a link to a website like reverbnation.com what makes that not credible??? I was in the process to add even more info but I can't write everyday for wikipedia. I am away to be a wikipedia expert but I never seen a band page where someone explained why a band is important. A band is important for the fact that it exists, make concerts, make registrations, write original songs, is recognized, is part of a musical genre, plays well... and a miriad of things like these that would be boring to write in the tesxt. So in your opinion I made an article using my fantasy? Best regards... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmrecords ( talk • contribs) 01:36, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for being patient with me on this. I was reading through the speedy deletion criteria but clearly I failed to catch some important nuance. Looks like 2 out of the 6 stuck though. I'm reading through your essay on speedy deletion right now. Best, TaxAct2018 ( talk) 20:21, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi there, just to say thanks for taking action on my CSD and letting me know. Best wishes, Tacyarg ( talk) 09:53, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Dear SoWhy.
I hope that you are well :)
Around 6 months ago, the Wiki page which I published was deleted (after being live for 16 months), with the reason being lack of Notability for the business it was about. However, as a multi-million-pound company which has been trading for over 18 years, and with more notable sources being found online over the last 12 months, I believe that the page could be reactivated and updated.
New notable sources include:
PayPal https://www.paypal.com/stories/uk/60-seconds-withgardensite
DigitalJournal http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/3477899
HortWeek https://www.hortweek.com/gardensitecouk-celebrates-18th-birthday/retail/article/1443907
This was the Deletion discussion thread: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/GardenSite
I would really appreciate if you could take a look, and pass on any comments that you may have that would help to get the article re-published. I have re-wrote an updated version of the wiki with the new sources but will wait to hear your thoughts.
Many thanks for your time and consideration. Kind Regards, David Coton ( talk) 15:46, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
You deleted this page in July 2017. The reason seems to be that the level of citations of my work was insufficient but the only evidence seems to be that someone looked at GS and found only up to 366 citations for the any article / book. Well I just looked and the first one on the list has been cited more that 500 times and the next 2 more than 500 between them. If you actually count all the citations to my work it comes to many thousand - I got bored doing this so I gave up. There are extensive references in other sources. I accept that it is a problem as there are several D Crowther's publishing but with 50 books and 400 articles published there are bound to be plenty of citations! And there are plenty of references to me in newspapers etc around the world.
So I think this deletion was hasty and ask for it to be reconsidered.
Signed
82.3.145.86 (
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10:51, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Could you restore his home page. He is definitely notable. I am atmospheric scientist and oceanographer from Scripps Institution of Oceanography and his work has clearly an impact on these fields. There are now reference in scientific literature (including very prestigious ones such as "Science") which reference his work. Many weather outlets and newspapers are suing his displayes. It initiated several spin-off such as windytv or vendusky. Once you restore it, I will add more material and references. Puncinus ( talk) 17:11, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Thank you so much for defending the article M.O.G Beatz. I just want to throw some light on this article I created. M.O.G Beatz is a renowned music producer in Ghana who of late done so many hits in Ghana. He is qualified for an article on Wikipedia.
I am much grateful for your help and once more, thank you for defending this article. I understand the Policies of Wikipedia, though am just 9 months and few days here, i love creating and editing more articles relating to Music (especially African Music)
I am here to learn new stuffs on here. Please share some new ideas with me here.
Have a nice day,
Blooms.
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. Regards
SO
WHY
11:37, 19 February 2018 (UTC)After you added the anchor to Jimmy Palmer's section within the List of NCIS characters-article, another editor (AussieLegend) changed Jimmy Palmer's section's name within said article again (see here). So at the time of this writing, links that worked before (such as List of NCIS characters#Dr. James "Jimmy" Palmer) does not (at the time of this writing) link to the relevant section of the List of NCIS characters-article (at least for me). Given your message on my talk-page earlier today, I would like to know what you think should be done about that. You asked me earlier to stop changing the links manually, and I don't want to "dig myself deeper". Heart of Destruction ( talk) 17:31, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
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. That way you can create
HTML anchors for any of those links. Regards
SO
WHY
18:45, 19 February 2018 (UTC)Before I tagged it as a CSD, the article was deemed deletable per- /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Spitshine_Records but never removed. Hoponpop69 ( talk) 01:10, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
I think we may have another from this master... see here CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:41, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
So I responded to your question. I'd prefer to believe that yours is an honest question about my position. I'm frustrated because the sentence after my statement about inclusionism was specific to the abuse of GNG and I gave examples. The fact that you asked your question regardless troubles me because it raises the concern that your question was really a ill-thought effort to publicly discredit my opinion, as harassment of opposers at RfA is both common and tolerated. I generally don't AGF because I hate all of humanity and therefore would never think the best of people, which is why I'm struggling with your question. I don't have any animus against you and I hope you don't have any animus against me. Lourdes deserves a fair up-or-down vote and it doesn't help if the audience gets into fist fights in the comment section; I don't want to be a part of that and neither do you. Perhaps my response has therefore settled the matter. If you disagree with my expectation that nearly all AfDs should end in deletion, then we have a difference of opinion which does not require discussion. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) Chris Troutman ( talk) 11:39, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
"apply to not-yet-published books", which the subject is. I take no issue with the list of references; I would balk at using reportage of this stunt. In a century it's possible the manuscript is forgotten or disregarded. This is also an issue of WP:RECENTISM, as the hope that the manuscript would be published on trees chopped down 90-some years from now. DGG, Unscintillating, and Rms125a@hotmail.com were right. Lourdes just sees sources and loses her mind. Your misguided close shows that you expect !voters to unambiguously give you the letter-salad of guidelines, policies, and essays. They provided policy-based rationales you didn't even recognize.
"Mentioning a "match rate" assumes that agreeing with everyone else is a good thing.", I wanted to write that in most AfDs, I've been the first !voter – and have not been matching my agreements with anyone. But that doesn't matter actually – you're the last person I would say no to or reject any kind of correction you would suggest. I value the points you've provided. I've taken in the issues you've raised and will surely keep them in mind in the future. Let's close this discussion here. With the warmest wishes as always, Lourdes 03:58, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
( talk page stalker) As an aside, claiming that Gartner or The Register are not sufficiently reliable publications to confirm notability in IT-related topics mostly demonstrates a lack of WP:COMPETENCE to judge notability in the field. That's akin to declaring that sources in WP:MEDRS can't confer notability in medical articles because they're just trade publications. If someone were to take exception to the sources provided by User:Lourdes in the AIOps AfD, it would have been techtarget.com, as their content and studies are vendor-sponsored (which may not be immediately apparent to the casual observer). I believe this seriously weakens the credibility of the whole argument. MLauba ( Talk) 11:59, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
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contains_all
that edit filter managers may use to check if one or more strings are all contained in another given string.Salutations. I was wondering if you could create a page on the English Wikipedia for actor, writer, director, and film critic Caillou Pettis ( /info/en/?search=Caillou_Pettis). Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimplyBatman22 ( talk • contribs)
On 7 March 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Peter Nicholls (writer), which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Step hen 22:52, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello SoWhy.
Last Year You and I had Many Conversations regarding The Removal of the "DJ Flash" Article Page. In That Time I Have located several Books, & Newspaper Publishing's With Ref. To DJ Flash (Record Producer Living On West Coast USA) You said if i Located These Ref. you would personally help with recreating the Article. So I am Once again Respectfully asking you to reconsider The Articles Removal.
Ref #1 Book "GLORY BEYOND A DARK TUNNEL" [1] by Minister McDuffie (Author) ... Please Read Pages 56, 57, 58, 153 & 156 (or just type DJ Flash in the "Look INside" search Bar.
Ref #2 Book "NWA -Not Without Alanzo" by Alanzo Williams (Author) [2] ... This Book tells the Story of NWA, Dr. Dre Ice Cube & Easy E Pre (Straight Outta Compton) Movie .. DJ Flash is Credited in the Acknowledgement Section. Just Type DJ Flash in The LOOK INSIDE search Bar.
Ref #3 News Paper "The Southeast Missourian" & "The Daily American Republic" (Poplar Bluff Missouri, USA) by Pat Pratt [3]
Ref #4 Book "RAP MUSIC & STREET CONSCIOUSNESS" by Cheryl L. Keyes (Author) [4] (PAGE 89)
Ref #5 DISCOGS.Com "Listing Of ALBUMS & SINGLES Produced, Written and or Performed By DJ Flash [5]
Ref #6 (Wikipedia) Major Album released on MAJOR RECORD LABEL Dist. By (SONY MUSIC) Dr. Dre "Concrete Roots" Dr. Dre (Artist) DJ Flash (Producer) [6]
Ref #7 2 Major Albums By Major Artist Released on Major Labels (WARNER BROTHERS DIST) "ICE T "The Classic Collection" and "COLD AS EVER" ICE T (Artist) DJ FLASH (Producer) [7]
REF #7 ICE T "The Classic Collection" ICE T (ARTIST) DJ FLASH (PRODUCER) [8]
REF #8 DISCOGS.com Major Album released on MAJOR RECORD LABEL Dist. "WESTCOASTIN" [9]
By (Universal Music) Ronnie Hudson ft. Snoop Dogg, Too Short, E40, Zapp Troutman (Artists) DJ FLASH (Producer)
Ref #9 Discogs.com Major Album released on MAJOR RECORD LABEL Dist. By (Universal Music) "The Original 2 Live Crew" 2 Live Crew (Artist) DJ Flash (Producer) [10]
Respectfully Submitted I Believe A combination of these ref. comply with Wikipedias standards for Notability...for an Artist, Musician, Producer etc....
If we cannot settle this issue here and now i will seek a higher Authority by means of Appeal ..
(If their is an Appeal process I will seek to have the decision to delete the Article REVERSED.) So Please Be Fair And Impartial SoWhy Wiki-dos808 ( talk) 21:06, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[wiki-dos808] 15:10 10 March 2018
References
Hello,
You recently deleted an article I did. Could you help me restore it and make the page better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariebarreau23 ( talk • contribs) 09:31, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
I found out about him because he has worked with Devin Cruise who has worked Ty dolla sign and Taylor Gang. He also worked with Nizzy J who wis 1/2 of Wallis Lane . I didn’t add this because in the guidelines it sign to not be promotinal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariebarreau23 ( talk • contribs) 12:01, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Okay, I’m going to find more sources. I’ll contact you once I find a good amount — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariebarreau23 ( talk • contribs) 15:25, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello SoWhy, The article is currently up for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SN Sharma DEEPAK and the AfD template was removed by an IP before IdreamofJeanie applied A7 so can you please revert it back to revision by BD2412. Thank you – GSS ( talk| c| em) 08:45, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
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Sincere confusion here. I honestly don't see the point of using edit summaries on talk or discussion pages. What am I going to say - "reply to (x)"? "answered question"? Those are empty and devoid of information. Copying the comment to the edit summary? Those types of edits really stand much better in context (and it's, as you said, a pain to do on mobile, from which I edit a majority of the time); I don't see why having to review the edits is a bad thing given the places where I don't tend to leave edit summaries are in active conversations. I agree that it's useful on articles and other non-discussion pages, but I'm having trouble comprehending the rest. ansh 666 08:22, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi SoWhy, I'd like to thank you again for your input into my last RfA candidate poll. After a few months, I have worked on improving my CSD nominations, and have made considerable progress ( CSD log). I've also helped to develop an article review flowchart for New Page Patrol, this process I feel has helped improve my understanding of CSD criteria immensely (and hopefully it can help others too). Anything else you would recommend that I should do to further improve? Also, any feedback on my CSD log or the aforementioned flowchart is welcomed. Thanks for your time. — InsertCleverPhraseHere ( or here) 23:27, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi SoWhy, thank you for your comments at my RfA and here. Your feedback is much appreciated, and I'm glad you took the time to give it. Cheers, ansh 666 00:11, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
claims coverage in RS. What is RS here? -- Innocent bystander ( talk) 05:39, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Template:Administrator review has been
nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at
the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ten Pound Hammer • (
What did I screw up now?)
05:47, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Elisa Jordana. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -- Eng. M.Bandara -Talk 06:30, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Just thought of what might be a confounding variable for your stats if you are still keeping track of them: WP:PAGESWAP. It works by moving the initial page to Draft:Move/NAME without leaving a redirect. Its become the default tool for page movers when executing round-robins, so I'm not sure how much noise it would cause. TonyBallioni ( talk) 18:23, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
I have a great article with credible materials and references to add to the Arman Vino page, But this page is closed and I can not add content. Please help. Hejazi.sina123 ( talk) 18:15, 29 September 2017 (UTC) My account is 31 days old and I have done 13 edits, but my account was not automatically approved according to Wikipedia policy. Hejazi.sina123 ( talk) 18:15, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi, AKD Group AfD result closed by you as a "Keep". The matter was never relisted to generate more comments and none of the responses provided references that demonstrate notability and meet the appropriate guidelines to establish notability. I opened another AfD shortly thereafter bringing this point up but it was closed with a "Procedural Keep" and noted that DRV was the correct way forward. Part of the DRV process is first of all to simply discuss the original result with the editor that closed the matter. (slaps forehead) Which is something I didn't do. If possible, can you please reopen the AfD for the following reasons. There were ony three participants in total, and more importantly, no proper arguments were put forward to demonstrate notability (based on policy and/or guidelines). Furthermore, the references produced all fail the criteria for establishing notability WP:NCORP as noted by OP. Thank you. -- HighKing ++ 15:57, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
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Your wording for the RfC on Template talk:Unreferenced
In 2010, an RFC at Template talk:Refimprove (archive link) was used as a reason to remove the addition of a {{ find sources}} style text in this template. Even then, some people in that RFC advocated adding a finding sources text to this template. Now, after seven years have passed, I propose again that we add such links to the template (test example: Template:Unreferenced/sandbox) because they make it easier for new and experienced editors alike to find sources easily. Regards
is biased. Specifically (1) "Even then, some people in that RFC advocated adding a finding sources text to this template". and (2) "because they make it easier for new and experienced editors alike to find sources easily"
The reason why this is biased is because the RfC was a snow in favour or removal and you have not mentioned that. The second is an opinion. Add it to a support as nominator if you wish but it should not be in the RfC.
It is also bloated by "Now, after seven years have passed" you have mentioned that the last RfC was in 2010 even those who have problems with remedial maths can take 10 away from 17 so that phrase it not neccessary.
I am making this request under WP:RfC#Statement should be neutral and brief and under WP:RfC#Suggestions for responding "If you feel an RfC is improperly worded, ask the originator to improve the wording, or add an alternative unbiased statement immediately below the RfC question template." if you do not change the wrording as suggested then I will add "an alternative unbiased statement immediately below the RfC question". -- PBS ( talk) 09:05, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
Dear Sir,
it's a great shame I missed the discussion on the deletion status of the biography page on Mike Sutton (criminologist). If I had taken part, I hope that I could have contributed. Having collected 18 months worth of evidence showing multiple examples of misconduct by this individual, atrocious research abilities and extensive abuse of fellow academics, I am disappointed to see his personal page removed from the deletion list. Comprehensive refutation of his claims against Darwin and Wallace, plus many of his "myth busts" are presented via 3 websites: Sutton Who?, Natural Histories, and the Patrick Matthew Project.
Sutton has been aggressively trying to get his ideas onto Wikipedia for years, taken on different anonymous accounts (there is a record of his sock puppetry), and has an anti-wikipedia editors hate campaign documented on one of his several blog sites.
Sutton is very much driven by ambition and pride. His Wikipedia page fuels his egocentricity, more so than it should considering it was entirely his own composition until recently, when I began following the flagged recommendations for the page, and edited some of the self aggrandisement. However, the page should be removed as it was created and written by him at the outset, and remained so for years. Any statement of importance or significance of his research is solely his own inflated opinion of himself, or selective cherrypicking from more critical sources than he is willing to admit.
As evidence that he was the sole author of several pages created to forward his agenda and raise his profile, he kindly lists his Wikipedia page and others he has created under his publications section on page 21 of his 25-page CV. There is no question that it goes beyond the impartial outlook supposed to be enforced on Wikipedia. Please can we have another look at this case?
Thank you and best wishes, Jfderry ( talk) 12:43, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi, first I would like to explain how I reached at your user talk page. I saw you at Wikipedia:adopt-a-user and wants to take you as my mentor to learn new thing about wikipedia. I would like to work in the areas of vandalism, new page patroller and wants to maintain wikipedia a reliable source of information. Thanks – 1997 kB 13:23, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi! I am a new user at Wikipedia, trying to help Wikipedia be a better place by adding information and creating pages for uncovered topics. For example, I am trying to make a page about "bomb jokes", but I can't do this without help, so I'm asking you to adopt me and be my mentor. Thank you. WarriorFISH ( talk) 00:00, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
Lol, why did you nominate the main page for deletion? NikolaiHo ☎️ 01:06, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello SoWhy. Good work on your contributions to the English Wikipedia. I am contacting you basically because you are one of the most resourceful editor have seen and so look up to you. I recently craeted a page as paet of my project to put young Nigerians doing exploit in their various sphere and who meet notability criteria on the English Wikipedia. But earlier today user:Gbawden nominated it for speedy deletion based on being promotional. Please, i need you to take a look at the article and help review it. Thanks Kaizenify ( talk) 09:46, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
{{
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on my talk page, I automatically get a notification for new messages here. Regards
So
Why
10:44, 12 October 2017 (UTC)Thank you so much for your help especially for your very friendly and accommodating response. However, I saw the multiple issues raised on the page and have started fixing it. First, I have reduced the no of images and added more independent reference. So will the tag be remove automatically when all this is done? Kaizenify ( talk) 13:05, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
I wish I could have made that alliterative. Anyway.
SoWhy, you have absolutely nothing to do with the situation I am about to describe, but you are a fellow admin whose opinion I trust when it comes guideline interpretation so I thought I would seek you out. Buried in this enormous, crazy, madness-inducing ANI report is the revelation that Winged Blades of Godric went back to an RFC that he had closed multiple times and amended the reasoning for his closing decision. I was somewhat flabbergasted by this, as it appears to fly in the face of the completely unambiguous wording of the discussion closing template. Godric replied by telling me that post-closing changes to rationales are completely commonplace. I'm flabbergasted by that, but rather than make an issue of it, I thought I'd seek out an uninvolved opinion. Thanks in advance if you take the time to read and respond. A Train talk 10:13, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
is the revelation that.....for they seem to imply (to me) as if I had been trying to hide something for a while:) Winged Blades of Godric On leave 12:56, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
Dear So Why, 12 Inches of Sin was brought to my attention. Many artists refer to the page and I have been receiving many inquiries regarding its status. I see that there is a notice that this may require a cleanup. I am unfamiliar as to how this may be done and by whom. Can you please advise? I saw your name as a person who recently worked on the article. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8801:3200:156:4495:325E:AC7D:2F37 ( talk) 17:31, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
Dear so why I wrote the aedp article and I missed the discussion to delete it by two days. Below is my rebuttal. Please reconsider. Where is the article. I don't think I have the complete as it is document on my computer, as i did a lot of the work in the edit space. Please read my rebuttal. Hi Cordless Larry I just saw that aedp article is being discussed to be deleted. I didn't get a notification and just saw this now. Obviously I am very upset, as that is a year of work for me and I had addressed the issues that are under discussion already. I would like to address the issues but I don't know how to join that discussion. If I go to edit, there is no room for me to write, and I don't want to move anything around. But here goes if you can please share:
1. Of course I am a student of AEDP, how else could I understand the topic. And yes, diana fosha mentioned me in a footnote in her book but that was to acknowledge that I had written up the transcript of a session she showed, that she had in fact written in the article and that was my transcription! So I am her associate to the extent that a student is an associate of a principal.
3. There are quite a few newer references that further support the notability of aedp since the article was posted a year ago.
4. how can it be written like a personal essay and also be written as a textbook
it can't be written any way other than it is written because i have followed the advised wikipedia practice of writing from the point of view of verifiable and notable sources. the sources are highly conceptual and research based, so of course its going to follow that tone. Believe me there is no way i can think of to make the content any more accessible without "dumbing it down." I think if I were to try to read an entry on sub-particle physics, i would not understand it,but I would be disappointed in wikipedia if it was written for a 6th grader to understand (as is the reading level that is advised for many non-scholarly writing).
5. students/therapists/psychotherapy researcher, psychologists are coming across AEDP in many writings. In the last year the citations to her work have increased significantly. I think turning to wikipedia to understand what this is,
is what wikipedia is for. I love wikipedia. And what i wrote is exactly what I would have wanted to find.
6. why is someone hopping on coherence therapy - its a reference.
7. that AEDP is one of the model of therapy considered mainstream and of importance and promoted by APA on its website, with a dvd, is testimony to its notability. And as someone said, if Diana fosha is notable, why isn't aedp?
8. Please do not let them delete AEDP article. Carrieruggieri (talk) 01:10, 22 October 2017 (UTC) Carrieruggieri (talk) 01:11, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
9. as to WP:neutral point of view: there is not a section on critique because contemporary psychotherapies are not critiqued without the perspective of decades to reflect upon the theoretical zeitgeist of the times. We are in an emotion focused era. Maybe in 20 years we will be neuro-focused. For example, cognitive therapist are being critiqued because they are being re-examined from the new emotion focused perspective.
10. Everything I have written comes from a reference. there is not a single sentence that is not reference. How can it not be neutral.
11. all sources lead back to fosha: that is why there is a fosha article that you accepted. She is the originator. There are many article that are written about aedp that are independent and contribute something original, but of course they are going to reference fosha.
12. Much is being made of the word institute. What if it was AEDP school?
13. Much is being made of the quality of web-site. Really?
14. No AEDP and other integrative therapies will not be collapsed. The effort in writing the aedp article was in demonstrating its unique contributions and its unique theory.
15. most of the references are secondary and 3rd party. Few are primary. so I contest that critique. You cannot know what is secondary and 3rd party unless you know the literature I suppose. Isn't there someone here who has a psychology background?
Carrieruggieri ( talk) 01:40, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
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For you excellent explanatory close at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EatOye (2nd nomination).Cheers :) Winged Blades of Godric On leave 11:23, 24 October 2017 (UTC) |
Hi SoWhy, the page Inanna Sarkis got deleted because there was not enough reliable sources. Now, I can find articles on Forbes, Tubefilter and other sources about Inanna Sarkis. She is not just a Youtuber, but also participated in a big screen movie. Can I get this page back? Thank you. -- Nexthh87 ( talk) 19:15, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
The article Global Challenges Foundation has been put through AfD again just days after you closed the previuous discussion. For me the user should have discussed this on the articles talk page. I thought I better tell you, otherwise let the AfD proceed I guess. But in my opinion it is too soon to instigate a new AfD just days after the first AfD was closed.-- BabbaQ ( talk) 08:51, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello SoWhy:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable
Halloween!
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19:04, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
... Regarding my RFAR question, I didn't really think that through, and I realized it immediately after posting it, but since I had pinged people I left it there. Also, the AfD was closed after less than two days, which was sort of an oddity in itself. Cheers, Softlavender ( talk) 15:44, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 11:14, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
how was it possible to delete it in the existence of 5 most reliable sources? can you plz, help me in this regard to review it again with neutrality and fairness. i paste here the comment of
A splendid poetry collection. Daily Times.
This source, which is authored by Amjad Parvez, sums up their poetry career along with discussing their book (Zarb-e-Sukhan) comprehensively.
Urdu, surviving against odds. Daily Rising Kashmir: This source discusses the subject comprehensive along with discussing one of their books. BTW, the newspaper is in editorial oversight.
I can't read Urdu. So, I will only discuss their reliability & comprehensiveness, but Urdu-speaking participants are invited to translate & summarize their content at the article's talk page:
The multiple sources – [1], [2], [3] (dead link) – published by the Daily Jang definitely show notability. NitinMlk (talk) (
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ehsan_Sehgal_(3nd_nomination) )
- plz, read these sources.
- http://blogs.thenews.com.pk/blogs/2013/02/a-literary-look-at-2012/
- http://www.roznamadharti.com/holand_news/?view=002521.gif
- http://archive.is/bvmhS thanks. Moona Sehgal ( talk) 10:42, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi. I am considering going through the Wikipedia adoption program.
My primary focus area is in articles about local history and geography and such. My particular focus right now is in Clyde, Ohio, and I'm rewriting a large article that is concerned with it.
The reason I'm going through the adoption program is because I have not reached for help from other editors in the...like...2 years that I've been here. I read Wikipedia articles a lot in my daily life, and I'm very enthusiastic for it. Wikipedia is basically my downtime. I'm an avid reader of the site, so I think I know the tone quite well. (Compared to others around me IRL anyway) Wikipedia editing is like my calling, you know. Academic writing and history have always been my primary talents.
Anyway, apparently I am not as familiar with Wikipedia's processes as I thought I was, because, as one adopter said, it is extremely hard to get a grasp on them because there are so many and it is so complex. Often in dispute resolutions I have acted inappropriately, especially lately. Whenever someone deleted stuff I added I got very angry. I probably shouldn't have done that. My personality has been very irritable lately, since I have had a lot of stress in my life lately (personal stuff).
Mostly due to my autism disorder, I greatly lack maturity and discipline for my age. I'm like 10 years behind most people my age in that respect.
Anyway, since I am so enthusiastic about Wikipedia, and think it is one of the best collective projects in the world (honestly), I want to learn how to become a much more formal editor here. I wonder if the adoption program can help me greatly in that respect.
I would apologize to the users I've been irritable with, but there were so many of them. Well, I wasn't mean to them and I didn't like insult them personally, but I felt I was rude and highly informal. Basically a temper tantrum at times. My irritability is certainly nothing against them; it's just a personal issue. In discussion, I sometimes present the tone I say things in in ways I don't exactly mean them.
I want to get to the point where people take me seriously here.
Anyway, that's it. I hope you consider adopting me. Thank you. :)
(BTW if adoption can involve chatting on IRC, I would like that. If not it's okay.) Philmonte101 😊😄😞 ( talk) 07:54, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi SoWhy, I seen where you declined the speedy on Phillip Thompson Townsville, so I was going to cleanup the manual of style errors in it, but noticed that it looked very familiar. It's a copy of the same article I cleaned up last week Phillip Thompson. Both are created by different editors but the new one is obviously copied and pasted, right down to a small typo. I've never come across this before, and was wondering if you know what to do about this. Thanks. Cmr08 ( talk) 01:09, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
You were recently listed as a party to or recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct of Mister Wiki editors. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct of Mister Wiki editors/Evidence. Please add your evidence by December 15, 2017, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct of Mister Wiki editors/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Kostas20142 ( talk) 21:34, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
I don't quite understand why there are many very short articles on Wikipedia that are labelled as stubs, and then it says "you can help Wikipedia by expanding them." Reading Wikipedia:Stub, it says:
A stub is an article that, although providing some useful information, is too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of a subject, and that is capable of expansion. Non-article pages, such as disambiguation pages, lists, categories, templates, talk pages, and redirects, are not regarded as stubs. If a stub has little verifiable information, or if its subject has no apparent notability, it may be deleted or be merged into another relevant article.
But then we have articles about geographical locations, which have no apparent notability guidelines other than the fact that they exist AFAIK. There are a ton of geographical location articles that are labelled as stubs, such as North Monroeville, Ohio that I created recently.
So, the page encourages you to "expand" such articles. But, for articles of this type, you can't really expand them any further without adding unsourced content or extremely irrelevant information or something. The three sentences on that article are the only ones I could even come up with, as every other book or whatever that talks about N. Monroeville only briefly mentions it in a list or something like "Mr. Smith is from North Monroeville" or "went to school in North Monroeville", which are pretty irrelevant for an article.
So why should there be a label at the bottom that encourages people to "expand" an article that can't be expanded much, if any, further? I don't think North Monroeville will be anything more than a stub, ever. I do understand that there is always a possibility that new useful references could come for a topic such as these in future times, but isn't it more likely that a person could see "expand" as a way to add irrelevant or useless content to the article?
It's just a curiosity and something that's been bugging me lately. Thanks. PseudoSkull ( talk) 00:41, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
Can you explain your reasoning for not deleting Avisheak Paudel while a similar article I tagged, Satyam Rana, was deleted? It easily fails WP:CCOS, specifically the significance part. Nihlus 22:12, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi, actually that's not a true medal and sources are really really weak. -- Vituzzu ( talk) 11:40, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
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I noticed you're using CSDH - I updated it recently but don't really use it all that often. If you notice any major glitches let me know so that I can correct them. Thanks! Primefac ( talk) 12:37, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
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It took me a few times re-reading your close to understand that including the closing admin refers to the admin who closed the original AfD. My first thought was it meant the admin who closed the DRV, i.e. you. Perhaps you could update your statement to clarify that? Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:28, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
I'm considering quitting the encyclopedia. It doesn't seem like people think my work is good, even when I do my best.
Worst of all, though, some aren't nice about it at all. Some people today just told me that my hard work is full of BS, and that was pretty offensive and I took it personally. They didn't just say something like "it needs improvement". No they just said the whole thing is a lie. It was about my draft here, and it happened on talk page Talk:Clyde cancer cluster. All articles I write are based on my perception of how Wikipedia sounds, since I've read a lot of articles here; entire articles at that.
I'm probably more active on Wiktionary, or at least I once was. I've seen a few rude people on there (not gonna name names, since I forgive them now anyway), but damn I haven't ever seen anything like this before. I don't even know what to say. Isn't blatantly saying that someone's 2-year lengthy work is complete garbage a pretty decent way to scare away contributors for good? I must say it's sort of working, because I'm thinking about it now. I'm not trying to soapbox you or start drama or anything (even if I'm not succeeding at not doing that), but I need advice because man I feel like shit. I don't even know what to say or do anymore. PseudoSkull ( talk) 16:57, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
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Hi,
I've noticed that when a page is Create protected for persistent meeting of A7, the summary is Repeatedly recreated A7 article − non-notable person, organisation, etc.
. I think (for obvious reasons) this is misleading and should be changed. Is this within our power to do so, or is this something that can only be done by those of higher authority? Cheers.
Adam9007 (
talk)
20:10, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
On 27 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Good Omens (TV series), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that it took a posthumously-sent letter from Terry Pratchett to convince Neil Gaiman to create a Good Omens TV series without him? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Good Omens (TV series). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, Good Omens (TV series)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Alex Shih ( talk) 00:03, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
What more could I have done to prevent a close that says that I "didn't really mention[] any policy- or guideline-based argument [as to] why this was to be deleted rather than kept, merged or redirected per WP:ATD." Did you need me to identify DEL12 DEL14 and explain the relationship between WP:N DEL8 and ATD, and the difference between content and topic, and that DEL8 is a topic deletion, not a content deletion, whereas DEL12 DEL14 is content deletion? What we have here doesn't fail DEL8, but it fails WP:N and DEL12 DEL14.
Unscintillating (
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17:55, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
I have seen your email and replied. Sorry, I have generally been away for Christmas and New Year (and then got side tracked with my eldest on Raspberry Pi program and Matt Parker's "cool maths videos") so haven't done much work on WP. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:05, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
The article David Koresh Superstar has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Album by band deleted as not notable, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Indelicates
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
notice, but please explain why in your
edit summary or on
the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}}
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proposed deletion process, but other
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Hi there
I've removed the PROD template from the Erika Csiszer article, after adding a reference that verifies that she is a Venezuelan TV host of the show on Telemundo. For good measure I added a basic infobox, a couple of wikilinks, and a category. Don't know enough about her to do any more. Hope that's ok. Tt 225 ( talk) 01:54, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
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Hi SoWhy,
Happy new year!
I was wondering what the story is on article
Brian McTernan. Why was his page moved
here? I started an article about him because he is at the top of the
Wikipedia:Most-wanted_articles. He is mentioned in 100+ articles in Wikipedia! Regards,
Mill 1 (
talk)
09:58, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
It only took 1 minute for User:Clain123 to re-create this article after you deleted it. I've re-tagged it for speedy deletion, but I doubt deleting it again will stop this user from re-creating it, especially as their user page and user talk pages both contain copies of the article. Iffy★ Chat -- 09:29, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
It was deleted but I'm pretty sure it was a redirect that got hijacked (i created it). Can you confirm and undelete if possible. Thanks WikiOriginal-9 ( talk) 23:13, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your work at SPI. Much appreciated. Montanabw (talk) 18:38, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Is there a Wikipedia policy I'm unaware of in favor of citation consolidation or that discourages primary sources? I thought more citations and primary sources made the article more interesting, but I may be missing something.
Thanks for your time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiiscool123 ( talk • contribs) 16:24, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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when posting to talk pages such as this one. Regards
So
Why
19:44, 9 January 2018 (UTC)Dear respectable SoWhy, I respect your contribution on Wikipedia your are such a great Administrator here who really know his job & give value of other new volunteers work and support them to grow. truly I am a fan of your work , when I will get a chance to serve as Administrator definitely you will be my inspiration.
Now i come to the point without taking your precious time I need your help to save an article Krimo Salem I think it meets Wikipedia criteria, you valuable action will be helpful for my wiki contribution.
Thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumitmpsd ( talk • contribs) 16:38, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I've been thinking about an article I made with less than a year of experience, 2016 Australian school bomb threats, and I'm not sure if it warrants an article. I feel like a case for WP:NOTNEWS could be made. I don't even think an article could be written about Evacuation Squad either, as they've only received a small amount of coverage outside this event: [6] [7] [8] [9]. (Never thought I'd be considering AfDing my own article). Anarchyte ( work | talk) 12:05, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi,
I saw your comment at
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The White Company (retailer) about editors not considering
WP:ATD, and thought I should say that that's nothing compared to
this AfD. In fact, it's because of discussions like that one (it's not the only one) I've been wondering for a while if we're missing something with regard to
WP:ATD? Maybe consensus is that it doesn't apply to speedy deletion? Of course, that directly contradicts
WP:CSD, which as good as says that it does, but still, I can't help but wonder...
Ta.
Adam9007 (
talk)
00:21, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Could I ask you to check and, if necessary, update your availability details at Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user/Adoptee's Area/Adopters, please?
I've been updating that page, plus the list of over 100 people seeking adoption (which I've now stripped down to around 20 active editors genuinely seeking help.
I've been working to identify those Adopters who are currently available, and those who haven't been active on Wikipedia for a while. But I don't think the bot has been updating correctly, so a manual check from you would be really helpful. I've also made some suggestions and a few edits to make life easier for newcomers. I've put some of my observations down in answer to a recent post about inactivity of some Adopt-a-User Project contributors. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes ( talk) 00:44, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi SoWhy. I would like to know your reasoning behind reverting my redirect of Arabian Gulf Cup to Gulf Cup of Nations. There are only two competitions called Arabian Gulf Cup which are the Gulf Cup of Nations and UAE League Cup. As WP:DISAMBIGUATION states, "There are three principal disambiguation scenarios, of which the following are examples" with the third example being "The page at Michael Dobbs is about the primary topic, and there is only one other use. The other use is linked directly using a hatnote; no disambiguation page is needed". That is the situation here, as Gulf Cup of Nations is the primary topic and UAE League Cup is the secondary topic (if you look at 'What links here' on Arabian Gulf Cup you will see all the pages that link there are meant to link to Gulf Cup of Nations, whereas none link to UAE League Cup, showing that Gulf Cup of Nations is the primary topic, plus Gulf Cup of Nations has far more notability in independent reliable sources than UAE League Cup as a search engine test shows, and the Arabian Gulf Cup is only a temporary sponsorship name for UAE League Cup whereas it is a permanent official name for Gulf Cup of Nations). As WP:DISAMBIGUATION states, there is already a hatnote on Gulf Cup of Nations page to the UAE League Cup. Thus, Arabian Gulf Cup being a disambiguation page seems to go directly against Wikipedia policy at WP:DISAMBIGUATION, and I ask you change the page back to being a redirect to Gulf Cup of Nations. Thank you, Hashim-afc ( talk) 10:43, 29 January 2018 (UTC) Hashim-afc ( talk) 10:43, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
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Hi SoWhy, Greetings. Where could I find the deleted draft log either it was more than 6 months without review were done or during the time of creation, the subject/title had not created but when pattroller reveiw the page and found out the title page has been created for such deleting draft page - I understand only admin could read the content, but I wonder could I locate the log to know the creator name and the date of the creation. Kindly advise and thanks in advance. CASSIOPEIA( talk) 17:40, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Also, how would I able to find who was the creator prior the pages below were cut and page to a redirect page. If you could find them as an admin let me know, if there is a way I could find out, then please advise me how to do so. Thank you very much
(1)
Junior Albini and (2)
Sean O'Malley (fighter)
Thank you very much. CASSIOPEIA( talk) 19:21, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi SoWhy, Good day and thank you for trying to assist. @
Anthony Appleyard:, I will compile a list and will forward over when it is done. Some of the subjects above (the 18 above) have been attributed to the original creator (who had created the drafts first and was copied and pasted by Rickyc123 later to make his own). Will write again.
CASSIOPEIA(
talk)
13:27, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
After all these years, I've finally written a serious article from scratch and am thinking of proposing it for DYK. Would you be willing to look at User:RoySmith/American Bank Note Company Printing Plant and give me your thoughts? Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:00, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
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Dear Sowhy Nikhil_chandwani article was deleted previously because of unreliable sources but now it has reliable references and fulfill Wikipedia criteria kindly take a positive action as per Wikipedia guidelines Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truembp ( talk • contribs) 10:47, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
May I ask on which basis the article about the band was considered non credible or irrelevant? I indicated various information sources and for me that is credibility. When there is a link to a website like reverbnation.com what makes that not credible??? I was in the process to add even more info but I can't write everyday for wikipedia. I am away to be a wikipedia expert but I never seen a band page where someone explained why a band is important. A band is important for the fact that it exists, make concerts, make registrations, write original songs, is recognized, is part of a musical genre, plays well... and a miriad of things like these that would be boring to write in the tesxt. So in your opinion I made an article using my fantasy? Best regards... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmrecords ( talk • contribs) 01:36, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for being patient with me on this. I was reading through the speedy deletion criteria but clearly I failed to catch some important nuance. Looks like 2 out of the 6 stuck though. I'm reading through your essay on speedy deletion right now. Best, TaxAct2018 ( talk) 20:21, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi there, just to say thanks for taking action on my CSD and letting me know. Best wishes, Tacyarg ( talk) 09:53, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Dear SoWhy.
I hope that you are well :)
Around 6 months ago, the Wiki page which I published was deleted (after being live for 16 months), with the reason being lack of Notability for the business it was about. However, as a multi-million-pound company which has been trading for over 18 years, and with more notable sources being found online over the last 12 months, I believe that the page could be reactivated and updated.
New notable sources include:
PayPal https://www.paypal.com/stories/uk/60-seconds-withgardensite
DigitalJournal http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/3477899
HortWeek https://www.hortweek.com/gardensitecouk-celebrates-18th-birthday/retail/article/1443907
This was the Deletion discussion thread: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/GardenSite
I would really appreciate if you could take a look, and pass on any comments that you may have that would help to get the article re-published. I have re-wrote an updated version of the wiki with the new sources but will wait to hear your thoughts.
Many thanks for your time and consideration. Kind Regards, David Coton ( talk) 15:46, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
You deleted this page in July 2017. The reason seems to be that the level of citations of my work was insufficient but the only evidence seems to be that someone looked at GS and found only up to 366 citations for the any article / book. Well I just looked and the first one on the list has been cited more that 500 times and the next 2 more than 500 between them. If you actually count all the citations to my work it comes to many thousand - I got bored doing this so I gave up. There are extensive references in other sources. I accept that it is a problem as there are several D Crowther's publishing but with 50 books and 400 articles published there are bound to be plenty of citations! And there are plenty of references to me in newspapers etc around the world.
So I think this deletion was hasty and ask for it to be reconsidered.
Signed
82.3.145.86 (
talk)
10:51, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Could you restore his home page. He is definitely notable. I am atmospheric scientist and oceanographer from Scripps Institution of Oceanography and his work has clearly an impact on these fields. There are now reference in scientific literature (including very prestigious ones such as "Science") which reference his work. Many weather outlets and newspapers are suing his displayes. It initiated several spin-off such as windytv or vendusky. Once you restore it, I will add more material and references. Puncinus ( talk) 17:11, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Thank you so much for defending the article M.O.G Beatz. I just want to throw some light on this article I created. M.O.G Beatz is a renowned music producer in Ghana who of late done so many hits in Ghana. He is qualified for an article on Wikipedia.
I am much grateful for your help and once more, thank you for defending this article. I understand the Policies of Wikipedia, though am just 9 months and few days here, i love creating and editing more articles relating to Music (especially African Music)
I am here to learn new stuffs on here. Please share some new ideas with me here.
Have a nice day,
Blooms.
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. Regards
SO
WHY
11:37, 19 February 2018 (UTC)After you added the anchor to Jimmy Palmer's section within the List of NCIS characters-article, another editor (AussieLegend) changed Jimmy Palmer's section's name within said article again (see here). So at the time of this writing, links that worked before (such as List of NCIS characters#Dr. James "Jimmy" Palmer) does not (at the time of this writing) link to the relevant section of the List of NCIS characters-article (at least for me). Given your message on my talk-page earlier today, I would like to know what you think should be done about that. You asked me earlier to stop changing the links manually, and I don't want to "dig myself deeper". Heart of Destruction ( talk) 17:31, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
|
. That way you can create
HTML anchors for any of those links. Regards
SO
WHY
18:45, 19 February 2018 (UTC)Before I tagged it as a CSD, the article was deemed deletable per- /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Spitshine_Records but never removed. Hoponpop69 ( talk) 01:10, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
I think we may have another from this master... see here CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:41, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
So I responded to your question. I'd prefer to believe that yours is an honest question about my position. I'm frustrated because the sentence after my statement about inclusionism was specific to the abuse of GNG and I gave examples. The fact that you asked your question regardless troubles me because it raises the concern that your question was really a ill-thought effort to publicly discredit my opinion, as harassment of opposers at RfA is both common and tolerated. I generally don't AGF because I hate all of humanity and therefore would never think the best of people, which is why I'm struggling with your question. I don't have any animus against you and I hope you don't have any animus against me. Lourdes deserves a fair up-or-down vote and it doesn't help if the audience gets into fist fights in the comment section; I don't want to be a part of that and neither do you. Perhaps my response has therefore settled the matter. If you disagree with my expectation that nearly all AfDs should end in deletion, then we have a difference of opinion which does not require discussion. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) Chris Troutman ( talk) 11:39, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
"apply to not-yet-published books", which the subject is. I take no issue with the list of references; I would balk at using reportage of this stunt. In a century it's possible the manuscript is forgotten or disregarded. This is also an issue of WP:RECENTISM, as the hope that the manuscript would be published on trees chopped down 90-some years from now. DGG, Unscintillating, and Rms125a@hotmail.com were right. Lourdes just sees sources and loses her mind. Your misguided close shows that you expect !voters to unambiguously give you the letter-salad of guidelines, policies, and essays. They provided policy-based rationales you didn't even recognize.
"Mentioning a "match rate" assumes that agreeing with everyone else is a good thing.", I wanted to write that in most AfDs, I've been the first !voter – and have not been matching my agreements with anyone. But that doesn't matter actually – you're the last person I would say no to or reject any kind of correction you would suggest. I value the points you've provided. I've taken in the issues you've raised and will surely keep them in mind in the future. Let's close this discussion here. With the warmest wishes as always, Lourdes 03:58, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
( talk page stalker) As an aside, claiming that Gartner or The Register are not sufficiently reliable publications to confirm notability in IT-related topics mostly demonstrates a lack of WP:COMPETENCE to judge notability in the field. That's akin to declaring that sources in WP:MEDRS can't confer notability in medical articles because they're just trade publications. If someone were to take exception to the sources provided by User:Lourdes in the AIOps AfD, it would have been techtarget.com, as their content and studies are vendor-sponsored (which may not be immediately apparent to the casual observer). I believe this seriously weakens the credibility of the whole argument. MLauba ( Talk) 11:59, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
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contains_all
that edit filter managers may use to check if one or more strings are all contained in another given string.Salutations. I was wondering if you could create a page on the English Wikipedia for actor, writer, director, and film critic Caillou Pettis ( /info/en/?search=Caillou_Pettis). Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimplyBatman22 ( talk • contribs)
On 7 March 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Peter Nicholls (writer), which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Step hen 22:52, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello SoWhy.
Last Year You and I had Many Conversations regarding The Removal of the "DJ Flash" Article Page. In That Time I Have located several Books, & Newspaper Publishing's With Ref. To DJ Flash (Record Producer Living On West Coast USA) You said if i Located These Ref. you would personally help with recreating the Article. So I am Once again Respectfully asking you to reconsider The Articles Removal.
Ref #1 Book "GLORY BEYOND A DARK TUNNEL" [1] by Minister McDuffie (Author) ... Please Read Pages 56, 57, 58, 153 & 156 (or just type DJ Flash in the "Look INside" search Bar.
Ref #2 Book "NWA -Not Without Alanzo" by Alanzo Williams (Author) [2] ... This Book tells the Story of NWA, Dr. Dre Ice Cube & Easy E Pre (Straight Outta Compton) Movie .. DJ Flash is Credited in the Acknowledgement Section. Just Type DJ Flash in The LOOK INSIDE search Bar.
Ref #3 News Paper "The Southeast Missourian" & "The Daily American Republic" (Poplar Bluff Missouri, USA) by Pat Pratt [3]
Ref #4 Book "RAP MUSIC & STREET CONSCIOUSNESS" by Cheryl L. Keyes (Author) [4] (PAGE 89)
Ref #5 DISCOGS.Com "Listing Of ALBUMS & SINGLES Produced, Written and or Performed By DJ Flash [5]
Ref #6 (Wikipedia) Major Album released on MAJOR RECORD LABEL Dist. By (SONY MUSIC) Dr. Dre "Concrete Roots" Dr. Dre (Artist) DJ Flash (Producer) [6]
Ref #7 2 Major Albums By Major Artist Released on Major Labels (WARNER BROTHERS DIST) "ICE T "The Classic Collection" and "COLD AS EVER" ICE T (Artist) DJ FLASH (Producer) [7]
REF #7 ICE T "The Classic Collection" ICE T (ARTIST) DJ FLASH (PRODUCER) [8]
REF #8 DISCOGS.com Major Album released on MAJOR RECORD LABEL Dist. "WESTCOASTIN" [9]
By (Universal Music) Ronnie Hudson ft. Snoop Dogg, Too Short, E40, Zapp Troutman (Artists) DJ FLASH (Producer)
Ref #9 Discogs.com Major Album released on MAJOR RECORD LABEL Dist. By (Universal Music) "The Original 2 Live Crew" 2 Live Crew (Artist) DJ Flash (Producer) [10]
Respectfully Submitted I Believe A combination of these ref. comply with Wikipedias standards for Notability...for an Artist, Musician, Producer etc....
If we cannot settle this issue here and now i will seek a higher Authority by means of Appeal ..
(If their is an Appeal process I will seek to have the decision to delete the Article REVERSED.) So Please Be Fair And Impartial SoWhy Wiki-dos808 ( talk) 21:06, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[wiki-dos808] 15:10 10 March 2018
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Hello,
You recently deleted an article I did. Could you help me restore it and make the page better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariebarreau23 ( talk • contribs) 09:31, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
I found out about him because he has worked with Devin Cruise who has worked Ty dolla sign and Taylor Gang. He also worked with Nizzy J who wis 1/2 of Wallis Lane . I didn’t add this because in the guidelines it sign to not be promotinal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariebarreau23 ( talk • contribs) 12:01, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Okay, I’m going to find more sources. I’ll contact you once I find a good amount — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariebarreau23 ( talk • contribs) 15:25, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello SoWhy, The article is currently up for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SN Sharma DEEPAK and the AfD template was removed by an IP before IdreamofJeanie applied A7 so can you please revert it back to revision by BD2412. Thank you – GSS ( talk| c| em) 08:45, 14 March 2018 (UTC)