Thank you for your very kind message on my talk page. I am also interested in classical music.
I looked at your version of The Wood Nymph before anyone else edited it here and your work-in-progress on The Oceanides in your sandbox. As is, both are better than the average English Wikipedia article in writing quality and content. Wikipedia needs more editors like you.
However, you must understand that at its core Wikipedia is a wiki that is (ideally) written collaboratively. No one owns an article on Wikipedia, no matter how much work an individual put into it. No one can expect their work to remain as first written. Some edits will improve the article, some will make it worse, some are deliberate vandalism (usually infantile rather than malicious)—but usually articles tend to improve over time. Where editors disagree about something in an article, the consensus prevails. An edit is not the equivalent of a teacher, or professor, marking up your paper. Wikipedia's culture does not respect authority, academic degrees, or formal achievements.
English Wikipedia does not prefer any particular variety of the English language, although an article should consistently use the same variety. Wikipedia has a guideline on using and resolving disputes concerning varieties of English.
Wikipedia's style is loosely governed by its own Manual of Style. Some oddities in the Manual of Style reflect deliberate compromises between American English and British English where consistency is desirable. For example, article titles and section headings are capitalized according to sentence case (as in British English), but titles of English Language works use title case (as in American English). See Manual of Style § Composition titles). Some Wikipedians tend to be sticklers about matters of style; alas, I am one of those. You can avoid conflict over that by spending some time with the Manual of Style. Some Wikipedians tend to be contentions, which is a common problem in online communities; I try not to be one of those.
You do not need to work on an article in your sandbox until it is a masterpiece, and that also is not the way Wikipedia operates. I suggest that you feed content into The Oceanides and other articles gradually and do your editing directly in the article. In my experience, Wikipedia works best when editors make a lot of bite-size edits, with a descriptive edit summary, rather than in big chunks. But that is just my opinion.
Because of the quality of your work, you should aspire to have articles you care about promoted to Good Article and then to Featured Article. Politically, you improve your chance for promotion by editing collaboratively with others.— Finell 05:25, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for your note on my talk! Love all of it, + needed "haha" ;) - I was in no mood for decent writing yesterday, should have stayed off the keyboard, instead turned to the task of replacing "genre" by "type" in hymns and hit some tone poems because there titles could have been hymns ;) - The discussion began at Mass in C major (Beethoven) where I would not add a type because it is in the title. We should probably add "form" (Missa solemnis) but as the whole box is unwanted by some, I tread carefully. You are quite welcome to maintain the Sibelius info, - we have time until his anniversary, right? Today is the last day to improve BWV 185 because that is for tomorrow ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:33, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
music by Sibelius
Thank you for quality contributions to articles on the music by Jean Sibelius, beginning with
an addition to his list of works, adding detailed infoboxes, expanding stubs such
The Oceanides, for
compleating the list and for spirited talk, - you are an
awesome Wikipedian!
-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:18, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
A year ago, you were recipient no. 1252 of Precious, a prize of QAI! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:16, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
Today: The Oceanides, "his second to last tone poem and is widely considered to be one of his most underappreciated (and underplayed) masterpieces." - thank you! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:51, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Five years ago now! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:36, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Hi Sgvrfjs. I have been impressed by your recent work on Sibelius, esepcially The Oceanides and The Wood Nymph. You have an appealing style and present all the essential facts in your articles. You may have noticed that we have started work on an expansion of the main Jean Sibelius article which I think needs to be improved to at least GA status, possibly even FA, in time for his 150th anniversary on 8 December. While your efforts on his individual compositions and the list of works are very useful as sources in this connection, I wonder whether I could persuade you to collaborate in further work on the main article . We still have a few months left but I would like to avoid the last minute rush we had with Carl Nielsen which we just managed to complete in time. If you don't yet feel like editing the article itself, any advice you may have would be greatly appreciated.
On the list of works, there is a detailed comprehensive list in Andrew Barnett's Sibelius (2007) which runs to no less than 44 pages! We had ambitions on providing a comprehensive list for Nielsen but to do so for Sibelius would require enormous effort. As he wrote so many songs and choral compositions, perhaps a separate list could be devoted to these. As for "sortable" lists, I must say that I am rather old-fashioned and find the type of list you have been working on easier to absorb than fully sortable lists like the one Gerda Arendt created for Nielsen, but I am probably in the minority.
I see you have also been encouraging standardized info boxes for Sibelius's compositions. While I seldom include info boxes in my articles on music and art, I have nothing against them (unlike some other Wikipedians) and think you have made a sound proposal. Nevertheless, as you must know, anyone can edit Wikipedia, so don't be disappointed if people come along and make changes.
If you think there's anything I can help you with, just let me know.-- Ipigott ( talk) 10:11, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
On 13 July 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Oceanides, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in his tone poem The Oceanides, Finnish composer Jean Sibelius "applied the impressionist method of scoring to the bass instruments, thereby achieving effects of sonority hitherto unknown"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Oceanides. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
Gatoclass ( talk) 12:01, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Today is the next great day: for GA (good article and my initials) you follow the link WP:GA (hint: whenever you don't know a Wikipedia abbreviation you look for a construction with "WP:" in front) and read what you think you may need. I can tell you that the most important information is another link in the top line saying "Instructions". In there, the step to prepare the article is described. I think the article is ready but you know it more intimately, please check. You will not be punished for missing a point, I have not experienced a single review which was not a pleasant exchange of ideas, even the one that failed. - When that step is done, follow the next step to nominate. If you have questions on the way fell free to ask ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:58, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article The Oceanides you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tim riley -- Tim riley ( talk) 21:00, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
The article The Oceanides you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:The Oceanides for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tim riley -- Tim riley ( talk) 20:21, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
@ Gerda Arendt, Tim riley, and Ipigott:. So how does one go about getting The Oceanides placed as an FA nominee? I should think that it's quite close to being at that level, since I have now executed Tim's recommendation that interesting but non-essential content be footnoted; I have copied his notation and citation practices from Ravel. Thanks! Sgvrfjs ( talk) 20:51, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi Sgvrfjs. I wonder if you could spare some of your valuable time to help out with tidying up the Jean Sibelius article in the next few days in the hope we can work it up to GA in time for a DYK on 8 December. I'm afraid my own progress on the article has been rather slow but I have now at least completed the section on the history of his life. There are however a few paragraphs in the article which are still unreferenced, particularly towards the end. Unfortunately I am now in Luxembourg and do not have access to all the library books on Sibelius I can find in Denmark. If I remember correctly, you have nearly all relevant works at home. Perhaps you could look through the article and provide missing citations if you can find them without too much trouble. If not, the passages will probably have to be deleted. Any suggestions you may have for further work on the article would be appreciated. I see you are making good progress on En Saga.-- Ipigott ( talk) 11:59, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Also, what do you think about The Oceanides making FA? And The Wood Nymph making GA? Is this something desirable to work towards? Thanks for the guidance. Sgvrfjs ( talk) 03:26, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
I went over the tone poems, trying to install accessibility features for which I don't get punished. One is {{ lang}}, indicating the language of text other than English, useful for people using screenreaders. Another is {{ start date}}, which elegantly translates to other languages. I used European date format for the European topic, hope that was right? - Some of his compositions seem to be unreferenced. - The template has red links, - I hope the navbox-purists don't see that ;) - I am not happy with the list of his works having the original title first, but our articles English, - but then that was the same for Kafka. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:26, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
I wonder why many articles have {{ Works for Orchestra by Jean Sibelius}} while it could be simply {{ Jean Sibelius}}? I suggest to have it collapsed, at least in short articles, as for example Voces intimae. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:10, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi, Gerda Arendt and Ipigott. I just wanted to raise a second minor clerical issue that I have noticed. The Category:Symphonic poems by Jean Sibelius page includes Kullervo, which various sources have classified as a choral symphony (which Wikipedia chooses as its preferred designation), a cantata, or a suite of tone poems. I myself have listed Kullervo in the List of compositions by Jean Sibelius under the subsection Chorus and Orchestra, while providing a small text page up under Symphonies, to reflect the fact that some sources consider Kullervo to be a Sibelius symphony. Here's the issue, I think in the interest of consistency, Kullervo should be removed from the category page of tone poems, because often it is not presented as such (contrast this to Lemminkäinen) and, potentially, added to Category:Symphonies by Jean Sibelius. A third option would be to allow Lemminkäinen and (possibly) Kullervo to both be in the symphonic poem category and the symphony category. I should add of course, that the exact number of tone poems by Sibelius depends on the source, but 13 are indisputable (1. En saga; 2. Spring Song; 3. The Wood Nymph; 4. Lemmkäinen (actually 4 in all); 5. Finlandia; 6. Pohjola's Daughter; 7. Pan and Echo; 8. The Dryad; 9. Nightride and Sunrise; 10. The Bard; 11. Luonnotar; 12. The Oceanides; and, 13. Tapiola.). Sometimes you also see inclusion of Dance Intermezzo and In Memoriam, and maybe Cassazione, but I chose a long time ago to place these works under Other Orchestra on the list of compositions page. Thoughts? Sgvrfjs ( talk) 01:57, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
As they come, looking closer at his works:
I plan to fill more red links, then add to those new articles, then source the older ones, - let's see how far we get. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:44, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Update: no more redlinks in the navbox.
Two hooks in prep for DYK on 8 Dec, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:20, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
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Revert if dislike. Cheers. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 16:16, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi there Sgvrfjs! I wanted to let you know that I added the {{expand finnish|Teosto}} template to the article Teosto. Also, I wanted to point you at Category:Translators_fi-en in case you wanted to attempt to recruit one of these brave folks directly to expand the article into English from the Finnish article. Chrisw80 ( talk) 06:48, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
Am making progress on rescuing those two paintings; User talk:Finnusertop was very helpful with Finnish translation to help with the Gallen-Kallela (which is misnamed, BTW, so I'm going to move it). Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 17:00, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
@ Lingzhi: I'll answer anyway, in case it's of further use. I find Template:Photo requested quite useful. Set it to |in=Finland and the article appears in Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Finland. A detailed request on the talk page is of course useful. – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 20:55, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
@ Finnusertop: Hey! I am having trouble finding solid information on the marriage between Madetoja and L. Onerva in English-language sources. No book on L. Onerva, to my knowledge, exists in English. Her Finnish Wikipedia page is pretty detailed, but the Google translate is kind of choppy. I was hopeful you could translate for me the relevant passages. Even better, I think it also contains links to the Finnish language book. I'm not sure how much you're willing to invest, but if you have access to it/them and can find information about 1) their courtship; 2) their marriage; 3) why their marriage was childless; 4) where they made their home; 5) their relation with alcoholism; 6) their relation with Eino Leino; and 7) their deaths, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!! Sgvrfjs ( talk) 08:04, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
@ Ipigott: Hey! Hope you've been well and have had a productive start to 2016. I have a quick question about Danish music and I recall you are pretty informed on this topic. What's the deal with the librettist Poul Knudsen, who wrote Sibelius's Scaramouche and Madetoja's Okon Fuoko? I was hoping to link up to his page in the Madetoja biography I am at work on, but can't seem to find one under any language. Also ran a Google search and...well, nothing that I can find anywhere! Why has this man been so completely forgotten? Any information would help. Sgvrfjs ( talk) 01:38, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
A draft now available at Draft:Poul Knudsen. – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 11:49, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
@ Finnusertop: Hey, I was hopeful that the next sections you could translate for me from the Salmenhaara Finnish-language biography are, in order:
Sooooooooo many thanks, once again; please take your time, or if you're tired of this project or have other irons in the fire, you are of course free to walk away at any time! :) Sgvrfjs ( talk) 23:52, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
References
Maybe you could include a template similar to {{ Handel operas}} in your artciles witha a collapsable list of the 13 tone poems. It is just a suggestion. Cheers! I am vulturing around The Oceanides so when it gets FA status I can translate it. Triplecaña ( talk) 09:55, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article The Wood Nymph you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Concertmusic -- Concertmusic ( talk) 20:21, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
The article The Wood Nymph you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:The Wood Nymph for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Concertmusic -- Concertmusic ( talk) 16:21, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
BlueMoonset Thank you BlueMoonset - that is valuable advice. I will switch the article back to On Hold, and will make a short note on that page myself, in addition to your suggestion for Sgvrfjs. Thank you! -- Concertmusic ( talk) 12:06, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Precious again, your first FA The Oceanides!
-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:45, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
The article The Wood Nymph you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:The Wood Nymph for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Concertmusic -- Concertmusic ( talk) 22:41, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
In your opinion what is needed for JS article to be FA? Maybe developing the sections Nature or francmasonery or merge them into others. In the Spanish version which I've recently translated I've added info about Sibelius euro coins and collector coins. Maybe we should include more about 150th anniversary but without falling into recentism. Reply anywhere you want. Triplecaña ( talk) 11:45, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
"You don't own the page; please reach out to me before undoing my work." Of course I don't own the page. Do you think that all of the composers listed should (ideally) include their main instruments and other areas of work? It could be a big job, copying all that information from their biographical articles into the list. Further, does the list require annotations for each symphony? The Haydn list alone could take some while to fill out. Or do you have some sort of filtering criteria in mind? Other comparable lists (such as the List of compositions for violin and orchestra) do not include such details. Your thoughts would be appreciated.— Jerome Kohl ( talk) 20:02, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
Could you please create Maan Virsi ( Hymn of the Earth) op.95. I've seen it also named Hym to the Earth. It is really uplifting and cheerful. I have created Vaino's Song in Spanish es:La canción de Väinö. Do you want me to translate it? Triplecaña ( talk) 11:12, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
This is to let you know that the The Oceanides article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 4 June 2017. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 4, 2017. Thanks! Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 13:57, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
@ Gerda Arendt: Hi, Gerda. I am trying to convert the Sibelius list of compositions into the type of sortable table that people seem to prefer, and I wanted to use your template from Nielsen, a number of features of which I like. I would, however, wonder if you could help me make some changes, since I don't know how. I want the following parameters: 1) Title; 2) Op. ; 3) JS; 4) K; 5) year; 6) genre; 7) type; and, 8) notes. So, for example, I'd like it to look like this:
Title | Year | Op. | JS. | K. | Genre | Type | Notes |
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Symphony No. 5 in E-flat major | 1914–15 r. 1916 r. 1918–19 |
82 | — | 58–60 | Orchestral | Symphony | First version (which is extant) and second version (which is lost) are in four movements, while the final version is in three movements |
The Oceanides (Aallottaret) |
1913–14 r. 1914 |
73 | — | 57 | Orchestral | Tone poem | First version is a three-movement suite (No. 1 lost), while the second and third versions are tone poems |
I don't really feel the need for separate columns for translation and key, and I don't think I'll utilize score. I would, however, like the description parameter to load under type rather than genre. So, for example, for Scaramouche, Orchestral for genre and Ballet-pantomime for type and, underneath the words ballet-pantomime, the phrase in 3 acts for description. The reason I would like to disaggregate genre and type is that, with the Nielsen list, the only thing I don't like is that I cannot sort ALL orchestral music together. Hence the need, I think, to convert genre into orchestral (or choral, or chamber, etc.) and the type into the specific composition form (like symphony, opera, string quartet, etc.) As a rough example, see the Dvorak page, in which genre is used as a meta sort and scoring is used as a more narrow sort.
Thanks for your help! I'd love it if we can work together on this; it'll probably be my hobby project in Dec. I've started the project at User:Sgvrfjs/Sibelius_loc. Sgvrfjs ( talk) 05:45, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Salutations to a fellow Sibelian! Thank you for your message. Since this is Thursday, Sibelius is my favourite composer; on other days of the week, Delius, Vaughan Williams or Ravel might come top. but Sibelius is the one I have the deepest interest in.
Alas, I don't have much information on Kullervo's publication history. The score I worked from in transcribing it for performance was borrowed, and my whole library is in storage. I'll check whether I have anything useful backed up in the cloud, and I'll try & get in touch with my friend who loaned me the score, so we can pin down the date of that one.
If you would like a copy of the full score that I edited, I can let you have it as a PDF (also parts & a couple of reductions), or as a Sibelius® score file if you have that software. I can also export a few other score formats. Let me know.
I had to edit the score extensively as there were errors in the original, as well as it being unreadable--copyist's manuscript & miniature score. I hadn't thought of uploading my score to IMSLP; until fairly recently, I thought Sibelius was still copyright, and he may be so in the US, but not here in Canada where I reside.
I don't think I'm up to doing a musical analysis of Kullervo, though I'm honoured to be asked. I am so happy thet you're updating the articles on Sibelius' music! I look forward to reading your article on the Oceanides, one of favourite pieces; to me it captures the essence of the sea better than Debussy or RVW or anyone.
Ciao, and let me know if you want my working scores. Feel free to stay in touch! -- D Anthony Patriarche ( talk) 01:34, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
@ Gerda Arendt: @ Ipigott:
→ (?): Kullervo, Op. 7 ( sandbox).
Greetings! My ambition is for FA by the 130th anniversary of its premiere (28 April 2022). What a milestone it will be! Silence of Järvenpää ( talk) 18:22, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
See my talk today, - it's rare that a person is pictured when a dream comes true, and that the picture is shown on the Main page on a meaningful day. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:51, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
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As it happens, just yesterday I thought of you listening to the Violin Concerto in the first concert of 2021, and the president gave a reception ;) - I'll add pics, - video of the speech (in German) is already on my talk. Great music! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:10, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
I feel ashamed for taking so much time with this, but I was finally in Helsinki, so here are the runtimes. All recordings were done in 2015. From the CD liners:
Conductor | Orchestra | Years | Symphony runtime | Recording venue | Label | Ref. | ||||||
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Kim Dae-jin | Suwon Philharmonic Orchestra | 2015 | 37:54 | 42:31 | 29:15 | 33:58 | 30:30 | 28:58 | 23:27 | Suwon SK Atrium | Sony Classical | (S80210C) |
Cheers – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 13:50, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Silence of Järvenpää. I'm just posting to let you know that Discography of Sibelius symphony cycles – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for February 21. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 ( Talk) 22:44, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
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Hello, again! I am pleased to report that you can confirm that Usko Viitanen and Raili Kostia as the soloists at the Bournemouth performance (and again at the Royal Festival Hall in London three days later) were the same soloists on the recording. This is from William Mann's review in The Times on 23 November 1970 (p. 11):
Rather an extensive verbatim quote, sailing close to the wind, perhaps, given Wikipedia's scrupulous respect for copyright, but I think it's just OK, and I hope will be useful to you. Best wishes, and happy editing, Tim riley talk 21:15, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Note: I deleted the citation for the purposes of the talk page. Silence of Järvenpää ( talk) 23:28, 5 March 2022 (UTC)The world premiere of Kullervo outside of Finland was on 19 November 1970 in Bournemouth, England, with Paavo Berglund conducting the Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra and the YL Male Voice Choir; the baritone Usko Viitanen and mezzo-soprano Raili Kostia served as soloists. The next day, Berglund's crew played the symphony at the Royal Festival Hall in London; in his review of this performance for The Times, William Mann praised Kullervo as "dramatically gripping", with "choral writing [... that] is stern and monolithic, often powerful, and... eloquent solos for brother and sister"; he also described Sibelius as "a gifted musical experimenter, with as strong a sense of design as of thematic character".
My Wikipedian mentor, the late, exuberant, wise, and painfully missed Brian Boulton told me at one of our bibulous get-togethers that as a young man he was introduced to Colin Davis and was invited to the latter's house in Islington where, if you please, they discussed the ins and outs of the Eighth Symphony. I don't know what conclusion Brian, or more to the point Sir Colin, came to, but I was speechless with envy when BB told me of their discussion. The only other Sibelian thing I can think to pass on to you is that during a Sibelius symphony cycle at the Barbican 20 years or so ago, Davis, who usually stepped off the podium looking as fresh as a daisy, looked as though he was about to drop dead after conducting the Fourth Symphony. I later read that Karajan, too, was poleaxed by conducting the Fourth and couldn't do anything for days afterwards. Beecham seemed to cope, although Walter Legge observed at the time 'The few who left the hall at the end of that work must have been surprised to see that there is still active life on this planet'. Tim riley talk 22:28, 1 March 2022 (UTC) 800x600
@ Aza24, Finnusertop, FormalDude, Gerda Arendt, Ipigott, and Tim riley: Hello, friends and mentors! Today is 28 April 2022—exactly 130 years ago to the day, in 1892, Jean Sibelius's marvelous Kullervo Symphony premiered to the public in the Ceremonial Hall at the University of Helsinki, the composer conducting. While I didn't make my deadline for FA, the work goes on, the cause endures. Hope this day finds you well, happy, and productive. Warmly, ~ Silence of Järvenpää ( talk) 00:11, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
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good plans! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 04:58, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
I heard Be Still, My Soul recently, and wonder if it should have an article beyond Finlandia? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:20, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Hello, assembled friends Aza24, Finnusertop, Gerda Arendt, and Ipigott! A great mystery awaits, should you wish to assist. No worries if this isn't your 'cup of tea' (pun intended... you'll get it after reading and clicking) :P
I hope you enjoyed your stay in my guest room.
Here is an ice-cold glass of
lemonade as a thank you, complimentary.
Visiting my guest room also means you've gained a new
talk page watcher! ––
FormalDude
talk 21:10, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
On 20 August 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Matti Lehtinen, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai ( talk) 19:07, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for this, and the Maiden, and for what you told Aza24. - Look at the church where I heard VOCES8. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:50, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
The article The Maiden in the Tower you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:The Maiden in the Tower for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aza24 -- Aza24 ( talk) 02:41, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
On 7 September 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Matti Lehtinen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Matti Lehtinen, a baritone of the Finnish National Opera and professor of singing at the Sibelius Academy, was the voice of God at age 93? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Matti Lehtinen. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Matti Lehtinen), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile ( talk) 12:03, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for what you did for him, and for the Maiden. Do you have DYK plans for her? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:37, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
The rose pic was taken on 11 Sep 2021, and this year was full of music that day, Tag des offenen Denkmals, not only singing in church and rehearsals for Verdi's Requiem, but two concerts at special places pictured, one a synagogue (pictured on its wall). Today three DYK: a piece we'll perform on Sunday, a violinist we heard in June playing the Berg Concerto, and a Youth Orchestra shaped by a conductor who recently died. Almost too much of a good thing. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:36, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
Chamber music pictured today: Spannungen -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:27, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
travel and strings sound -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:45, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, Aza24. Hope you've been well! Sorry that I've been AWOL due to IRL. Anyway, a quick question: there's a user who keeps making disruptive edits (e.g., not following MOS and partial conversions of US Eng to GB Eng without first discussing on the Talk Page) to Kullervo and The Wood Nymph. While I was able to revert the former, I was unable to do so to the latter, due to (1) the user making more than one published batch of edits and (2) another user coming in to typo-fix. I thus think I need a rollback, but have never requested one and was hopeful you could point me in the right direction. On another note: Is there a way that the problematic editor can be reined in? They're creating unnecessary labor for others... oops, I better say labour! :P Warmly, ~ Silence of Järvenpää 13:43, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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It's his birthday! - Today, also a hymn for a Marian feast, and I learned that Yvonne Ciannella died, the soprano who impressed me in my first night at the opera. As she died in March, sadly no Main page reverence is possible, - at least she had a good DYK, at a time when opera singers were considered interesting. I'm proud today that Christiane Hörbiger made it to that corner, and happy that we celebrate the birthday of Jean Sibelius again. - I heard an excellent Christmas concert yesterday, by Tenebrae, and a short excerpt of them singing " Deo gracias" is also linked from my talk. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:18, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
Today was a day rich in music, with two new pictures, and also rich in WP:QAI contributions on the Main page: the TFA, 2 DYK and 2 RD with members as principal editors. The church pictured there (not by me, nice snow dust and tall evergreen) comes with memories, detailed on my talk. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:18, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Enjoy the season, dreaming of peace! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:56, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
Hi, Finnusertop! A happy new year to you. I have been looking to work on the article for Sibelius's Voces intimae string quartet (1909), which is his lone notable work for chamber ensemble. Using the digitized newspaper archives, I have located the original reviews from the 25 April 1910 premiere. But, as we have encountered before, the Finnish-language press used that old style font, and neither I (typing manually into Google translate) nor the ORC service can read it. I was hopeful you could provide me a translation of two brief reviews. They are as follows:
For the Uusi Suometar, you could begin at "Seuraji sitten illan huippukohta ..." (i.e., skip the non-Sibelius part of the program). And for the Helsingin Sanomat, I would only need the paragraph that begins with "Musiikki-illassa eilen esitettiin ensi kerran Jean Sibeliuksen ..." (By the way, any idea who the reviewer is? All the paper provides is the initial W.). Many, many thanks for your help, if you can! ~ Silence of Järvenpää 20:21, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
[...] Highlights of the night followed with Sibelius' new grand quartet which – the score has been printed for six months now – has been anticipated with exictement. To begin with, the quartet made a great and wonderful impact. Although most listeners might have found most of its content incomprihensible, the genious that is imprinted in it and the dazzling height the composer's imagination has sorared to could not have failed to impress everone who has heard it. Yours truly thinks this piece is the most magnificient one ever written by Siebelius. The carlity of thought and mastership of execution are equally astonishing in it. The material is manipulated by the master as easily as wax, taking the shape of musical images whether they be sparkling and upbeat or calmn and solemn. The composer is playing with form and nothing is no longer impossible for him. It is total domination of mind over matter. Probably in no other piece has Sibelius been so "airborne". The grand Adagio part evokes memories of Beethoven's last quartets and in the last, fast-paced Allegro part we find ourselves in the middle of a fantasy world in the midst of the night among playing elves and faries, thousands of sounds meeting our ears from this and that direction drawing us into the flaring whirls of their lively dance.
For the second time now I am allowed to return to the etheric and mysterious (the composer calls his quartet by the name of "Voces intimae") style and its [above-mentioned?] qualities. This time it suffices for me to simply express my joy due to this new compositional piece characteristic of the flight of imagination and mastership of form that the artist has created.
In a technical sense the quartet is almost unnaturally difficult. That is not to say that it would be outside the boundaries of "playability"; it just sets enormous requirements for the alertness and skill of performers. In light of this the school's quartet deserves honest congratulations. The performance is a remarkable accomplishment for it. [1]
At the music night last night Jean Sibelius' newest string quartet op. 56 which the composer has given the name "Voces intimae" was premiered. The composition evoked lively attention and it undoubtedly can be counted among the most ingenious works of its kind. It is not a composition for the general public, because of how strange and atypical it is. From the short prelude, the Andante, we arritve at an energetic Vivace, from which different instruments form a most enjoyable and echoing fabric by criss-crossing beteween different images of music. The sense of echo is veritably immersive in this part as well as the Adagio which is in its benevolence and spirituality an unparallelled bit. In the Allegretto it is excellently entertaining themes that capture one's attention that at times organize fast-paced runs in intermediary sounds. I hope this fine quartet will be performed many more times so that we may have a chance to study its secrets more closely. – The composition was performed by Messrs. Rowacek, Hurstinen, Lindelöf and Bersfelt in a fairly smooth manner when we take into account its terrifying difficulty.
Mr. Sulo Hurstinen, who by the way was in the middle of action all night long, played correctly and with firm sound a few violin pieces, Lalo's romance in D minor and one of Gossec's gabots the latter of which had to be subjected to an encore due to extremely warm applause.
As the first number of the programme, Hand's string quartet op. 54 2 C major was performed. – Last night's music night was the final one of this [season]. [2]
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Thank you for restoring Carl Nielsen! - My story today is about the Alchymic Quartet, the last DYK from last year. - The songs are about vacation. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:46, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Aza24 ~ Hi! Could you possibly, when you have a moment, read through Water Droplets and provide it a rating on its talk page? It's quite a short article. Thanks! ~ Silence of Järvenpää 23:57, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
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Good to see the Water droplets on the Main page! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:15, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
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Dear Silence. You posted a translation request to me some time ago, but I failed to respond to it quickly. Do you still need it? I am terribly sorry. I've been busy and slightly unmotivated. – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 19:26, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Silence of Järvenpää. Sorry to bother you right as you return, but you've added some short form refs that don't have the required cite.
In Hymn of the Earth (Sibelius) you added "E. Klas—Ondine (ODE 754-2) 1990", "P. Järvi—Virgin Classics (7243 5 45589 2 4) 2003", and "O. Vänskä—BIS (CD-1365) 2005".
In Väinämöinen’s Song "Barnett 2006", "E. Klas—Ondine (ODE 754-2) 1990", "P. Järvi—Virgin Classics (7243 5 45589 2 4) 2003", and "O. Vänskä—BIS (CD-1565) 2006".
In Oma maa "O. Vänskä—BIS (BIS CD-1265) 2004", "P. Berglund—Warner (0190295869151) 2017", "E. Klas—Ondine (ODE 754-2) 1990", "O. Vänskä—BIS (CD-1265) 2004", and "P. Järvi—Virgin Classics (7243 5 45589 2 4) 2003".
Short form refs such as {{ sfn}} are hyperlinks to full cites, could you add the required cites to Sources section of each article? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆ transmissions∆ ° co-ords° 14:27, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
Hello again Silence of Järvenpää. You added "Dahlström 2007" to Impromptu (Sibelius), but only "Dahlström 2003" is defined. Is this just a typo? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆ transmissions∆ ° co-ords° 16:50, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
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@ Aza24: Hi, Aza! I have been at work on the Sibelius art songs, but as usual, I cannot determine the difference between major and minor identical key signatures. Given your expertise, I was hoping you could help complete the table at Six Songs, Op. 36 (Sibelius) for me. The score is available via IMSLP. Thanks! (Will also soon make tables for Op. 13, Op. 17, Op. 37, and Op.38). Warmly, ~ Silence of Järvenpää 04:38, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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Thank you for your very kind message on my talk page. I am also interested in classical music.
I looked at your version of The Wood Nymph before anyone else edited it here and your work-in-progress on The Oceanides in your sandbox. As is, both are better than the average English Wikipedia article in writing quality and content. Wikipedia needs more editors like you.
However, you must understand that at its core Wikipedia is a wiki that is (ideally) written collaboratively. No one owns an article on Wikipedia, no matter how much work an individual put into it. No one can expect their work to remain as first written. Some edits will improve the article, some will make it worse, some are deliberate vandalism (usually infantile rather than malicious)—but usually articles tend to improve over time. Where editors disagree about something in an article, the consensus prevails. An edit is not the equivalent of a teacher, or professor, marking up your paper. Wikipedia's culture does not respect authority, academic degrees, or formal achievements.
English Wikipedia does not prefer any particular variety of the English language, although an article should consistently use the same variety. Wikipedia has a guideline on using and resolving disputes concerning varieties of English.
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You do not need to work on an article in your sandbox until it is a masterpiece, and that also is not the way Wikipedia operates. I suggest that you feed content into The Oceanides and other articles gradually and do your editing directly in the article. In my experience, Wikipedia works best when editors make a lot of bite-size edits, with a descriptive edit summary, rather than in big chunks. But that is just my opinion.
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Thank you for your note on my talk! Love all of it, + needed "haha" ;) - I was in no mood for decent writing yesterday, should have stayed off the keyboard, instead turned to the task of replacing "genre" by "type" in hymns and hit some tone poems because there titles could have been hymns ;) - The discussion began at Mass in C major (Beethoven) where I would not add a type because it is in the title. We should probably add "form" (Missa solemnis) but as the whole box is unwanted by some, I tread carefully. You are quite welcome to maintain the Sibelius info, - we have time until his anniversary, right? Today is the last day to improve BWV 185 because that is for tomorrow ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:33, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
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A year ago, you were recipient no. 1252 of Precious, a prize of QAI! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:16, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
Today: The Oceanides, "his second to last tone poem and is widely considered to be one of his most underappreciated (and underplayed) masterpieces." - thank you! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:51, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Five years ago now! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:36, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Hi Sgvrfjs. I have been impressed by your recent work on Sibelius, esepcially The Oceanides and The Wood Nymph. You have an appealing style and present all the essential facts in your articles. You may have noticed that we have started work on an expansion of the main Jean Sibelius article which I think needs to be improved to at least GA status, possibly even FA, in time for his 150th anniversary on 8 December. While your efforts on his individual compositions and the list of works are very useful as sources in this connection, I wonder whether I could persuade you to collaborate in further work on the main article . We still have a few months left but I would like to avoid the last minute rush we had with Carl Nielsen which we just managed to complete in time. If you don't yet feel like editing the article itself, any advice you may have would be greatly appreciated.
On the list of works, there is a detailed comprehensive list in Andrew Barnett's Sibelius (2007) which runs to no less than 44 pages! We had ambitions on providing a comprehensive list for Nielsen but to do so for Sibelius would require enormous effort. As he wrote so many songs and choral compositions, perhaps a separate list could be devoted to these. As for "sortable" lists, I must say that I am rather old-fashioned and find the type of list you have been working on easier to absorb than fully sortable lists like the one Gerda Arendt created for Nielsen, but I am probably in the minority.
I see you have also been encouraging standardized info boxes for Sibelius's compositions. While I seldom include info boxes in my articles on music and art, I have nothing against them (unlike some other Wikipedians) and think you have made a sound proposal. Nevertheless, as you must know, anyone can edit Wikipedia, so don't be disappointed if people come along and make changes.
If you think there's anything I can help you with, just let me know.-- Ipigott ( talk) 10:11, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
On 13 July 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Oceanides, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in his tone poem The Oceanides, Finnish composer Jean Sibelius "applied the impressionist method of scoring to the bass instruments, thereby achieving effects of sonority hitherto unknown"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Oceanides. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
Gatoclass ( talk) 12:01, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Today is the next great day: for GA (good article and my initials) you follow the link WP:GA (hint: whenever you don't know a Wikipedia abbreviation you look for a construction with "WP:" in front) and read what you think you may need. I can tell you that the most important information is another link in the top line saying "Instructions". In there, the step to prepare the article is described. I think the article is ready but you know it more intimately, please check. You will not be punished for missing a point, I have not experienced a single review which was not a pleasant exchange of ideas, even the one that failed. - When that step is done, follow the next step to nominate. If you have questions on the way fell free to ask ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:58, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article The Oceanides you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tim riley -- Tim riley ( talk) 21:00, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
The article The Oceanides you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:The Oceanides for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tim riley -- Tim riley ( talk) 20:21, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
@ Gerda Arendt, Tim riley, and Ipigott:. So how does one go about getting The Oceanides placed as an FA nominee? I should think that it's quite close to being at that level, since I have now executed Tim's recommendation that interesting but non-essential content be footnoted; I have copied his notation and citation practices from Ravel. Thanks! Sgvrfjs ( talk) 20:51, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi Sgvrfjs. I wonder if you could spare some of your valuable time to help out with tidying up the Jean Sibelius article in the next few days in the hope we can work it up to GA in time for a DYK on 8 December. I'm afraid my own progress on the article has been rather slow but I have now at least completed the section on the history of his life. There are however a few paragraphs in the article which are still unreferenced, particularly towards the end. Unfortunately I am now in Luxembourg and do not have access to all the library books on Sibelius I can find in Denmark. If I remember correctly, you have nearly all relevant works at home. Perhaps you could look through the article and provide missing citations if you can find them without too much trouble. If not, the passages will probably have to be deleted. Any suggestions you may have for further work on the article would be appreciated. I see you are making good progress on En Saga.-- Ipigott ( talk) 11:59, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Also, what do you think about The Oceanides making FA? And The Wood Nymph making GA? Is this something desirable to work towards? Thanks for the guidance. Sgvrfjs ( talk) 03:26, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
I went over the tone poems, trying to install accessibility features for which I don't get punished. One is {{ lang}}, indicating the language of text other than English, useful for people using screenreaders. Another is {{ start date}}, which elegantly translates to other languages. I used European date format for the European topic, hope that was right? - Some of his compositions seem to be unreferenced. - The template has red links, - I hope the navbox-purists don't see that ;) - I am not happy with the list of his works having the original title first, but our articles English, - but then that was the same for Kafka. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:26, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
I wonder why many articles have {{ Works for Orchestra by Jean Sibelius}} while it could be simply {{ Jean Sibelius}}? I suggest to have it collapsed, at least in short articles, as for example Voces intimae. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:10, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi, Gerda Arendt and Ipigott. I just wanted to raise a second minor clerical issue that I have noticed. The Category:Symphonic poems by Jean Sibelius page includes Kullervo, which various sources have classified as a choral symphony (which Wikipedia chooses as its preferred designation), a cantata, or a suite of tone poems. I myself have listed Kullervo in the List of compositions by Jean Sibelius under the subsection Chorus and Orchestra, while providing a small text page up under Symphonies, to reflect the fact that some sources consider Kullervo to be a Sibelius symphony. Here's the issue, I think in the interest of consistency, Kullervo should be removed from the category page of tone poems, because often it is not presented as such (contrast this to Lemminkäinen) and, potentially, added to Category:Symphonies by Jean Sibelius. A third option would be to allow Lemminkäinen and (possibly) Kullervo to both be in the symphonic poem category and the symphony category. I should add of course, that the exact number of tone poems by Sibelius depends on the source, but 13 are indisputable (1. En saga; 2. Spring Song; 3. The Wood Nymph; 4. Lemmkäinen (actually 4 in all); 5. Finlandia; 6. Pohjola's Daughter; 7. Pan and Echo; 8. The Dryad; 9. Nightride and Sunrise; 10. The Bard; 11. Luonnotar; 12. The Oceanides; and, 13. Tapiola.). Sometimes you also see inclusion of Dance Intermezzo and In Memoriam, and maybe Cassazione, but I chose a long time ago to place these works under Other Orchestra on the list of compositions page. Thoughts? Sgvrfjs ( talk) 01:57, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
As they come, looking closer at his works:
I plan to fill more red links, then add to those new articles, then source the older ones, - let's see how far we get. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:44, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Update: no more redlinks in the navbox.
Two hooks in prep for DYK on 8 Dec, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:20, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
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Revert if dislike. Cheers. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 16:16, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi there Sgvrfjs! I wanted to let you know that I added the {{expand finnish|Teosto}} template to the article Teosto. Also, I wanted to point you at Category:Translators_fi-en in case you wanted to attempt to recruit one of these brave folks directly to expand the article into English from the Finnish article. Chrisw80 ( talk) 06:48, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
Am making progress on rescuing those two paintings; User talk:Finnusertop was very helpful with Finnish translation to help with the Gallen-Kallela (which is misnamed, BTW, so I'm going to move it). Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 17:00, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
@ Lingzhi: I'll answer anyway, in case it's of further use. I find Template:Photo requested quite useful. Set it to |in=Finland and the article appears in Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Finland. A detailed request on the talk page is of course useful. – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 20:55, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
@ Finnusertop: Hey! I am having trouble finding solid information on the marriage between Madetoja and L. Onerva in English-language sources. No book on L. Onerva, to my knowledge, exists in English. Her Finnish Wikipedia page is pretty detailed, but the Google translate is kind of choppy. I was hopeful you could translate for me the relevant passages. Even better, I think it also contains links to the Finnish language book. I'm not sure how much you're willing to invest, but if you have access to it/them and can find information about 1) their courtship; 2) their marriage; 3) why their marriage was childless; 4) where they made their home; 5) their relation with alcoholism; 6) their relation with Eino Leino; and 7) their deaths, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!! Sgvrfjs ( talk) 08:04, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
@ Ipigott: Hey! Hope you've been well and have had a productive start to 2016. I have a quick question about Danish music and I recall you are pretty informed on this topic. What's the deal with the librettist Poul Knudsen, who wrote Sibelius's Scaramouche and Madetoja's Okon Fuoko? I was hoping to link up to his page in the Madetoja biography I am at work on, but can't seem to find one under any language. Also ran a Google search and...well, nothing that I can find anywhere! Why has this man been so completely forgotten? Any information would help. Sgvrfjs ( talk) 01:38, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
A draft now available at Draft:Poul Knudsen. – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 11:49, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
@ Finnusertop: Hey, I was hopeful that the next sections you could translate for me from the Salmenhaara Finnish-language biography are, in order:
Sooooooooo many thanks, once again; please take your time, or if you're tired of this project or have other irons in the fire, you are of course free to walk away at any time! :) Sgvrfjs ( talk) 23:52, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
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Maybe you could include a template similar to {{ Handel operas}} in your artciles witha a collapsable list of the 13 tone poems. It is just a suggestion. Cheers! I am vulturing around The Oceanides so when it gets FA status I can translate it. Triplecaña ( talk) 09:55, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article The Wood Nymph you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Concertmusic -- Concertmusic ( talk) 20:21, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
The article The Wood Nymph you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:The Wood Nymph for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Concertmusic -- Concertmusic ( talk) 16:21, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
BlueMoonset Thank you BlueMoonset - that is valuable advice. I will switch the article back to On Hold, and will make a short note on that page myself, in addition to your suggestion for Sgvrfjs. Thank you! -- Concertmusic ( talk) 12:06, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Precious again, your first FA The Oceanides!
-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:45, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
The article The Wood Nymph you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:The Wood Nymph for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Concertmusic -- Concertmusic ( talk) 22:41, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
In your opinion what is needed for JS article to be FA? Maybe developing the sections Nature or francmasonery or merge them into others. In the Spanish version which I've recently translated I've added info about Sibelius euro coins and collector coins. Maybe we should include more about 150th anniversary but without falling into recentism. Reply anywhere you want. Triplecaña ( talk) 11:45, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
"You don't own the page; please reach out to me before undoing my work." Of course I don't own the page. Do you think that all of the composers listed should (ideally) include their main instruments and other areas of work? It could be a big job, copying all that information from their biographical articles into the list. Further, does the list require annotations for each symphony? The Haydn list alone could take some while to fill out. Or do you have some sort of filtering criteria in mind? Other comparable lists (such as the List of compositions for violin and orchestra) do not include such details. Your thoughts would be appreciated.— Jerome Kohl ( talk) 20:02, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
Could you please create Maan Virsi ( Hymn of the Earth) op.95. I've seen it also named Hym to the Earth. It is really uplifting and cheerful. I have created Vaino's Song in Spanish es:La canción de Väinö. Do you want me to translate it? Triplecaña ( talk) 11:12, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
This is to let you know that the The Oceanides article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 4 June 2017. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 4, 2017. Thanks! Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 13:57, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
@ Gerda Arendt: Hi, Gerda. I am trying to convert the Sibelius list of compositions into the type of sortable table that people seem to prefer, and I wanted to use your template from Nielsen, a number of features of which I like. I would, however, wonder if you could help me make some changes, since I don't know how. I want the following parameters: 1) Title; 2) Op. ; 3) JS; 4) K; 5) year; 6) genre; 7) type; and, 8) notes. So, for example, I'd like it to look like this:
Title | Year | Op. | JS. | K. | Genre | Type | Notes |
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Symphony No. 5 in E-flat major | 1914–15 r. 1916 r. 1918–19 |
82 | — | 58–60 | Orchestral | Symphony | First version (which is extant) and second version (which is lost) are in four movements, while the final version is in three movements |
The Oceanides (Aallottaret) |
1913–14 r. 1914 |
73 | — | 57 | Orchestral | Tone poem | First version is a three-movement suite (No. 1 lost), while the second and third versions are tone poems |
I don't really feel the need for separate columns for translation and key, and I don't think I'll utilize score. I would, however, like the description parameter to load under type rather than genre. So, for example, for Scaramouche, Orchestral for genre and Ballet-pantomime for type and, underneath the words ballet-pantomime, the phrase in 3 acts for description. The reason I would like to disaggregate genre and type is that, with the Nielsen list, the only thing I don't like is that I cannot sort ALL orchestral music together. Hence the need, I think, to convert genre into orchestral (or choral, or chamber, etc.) and the type into the specific composition form (like symphony, opera, string quartet, etc.) As a rough example, see the Dvorak page, in which genre is used as a meta sort and scoring is used as a more narrow sort.
Thanks for your help! I'd love it if we can work together on this; it'll probably be my hobby project in Dec. I've started the project at User:Sgvrfjs/Sibelius_loc. Sgvrfjs ( talk) 05:45, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Salutations to a fellow Sibelian! Thank you for your message. Since this is Thursday, Sibelius is my favourite composer; on other days of the week, Delius, Vaughan Williams or Ravel might come top. but Sibelius is the one I have the deepest interest in.
Alas, I don't have much information on Kullervo's publication history. The score I worked from in transcribing it for performance was borrowed, and my whole library is in storage. I'll check whether I have anything useful backed up in the cloud, and I'll try & get in touch with my friend who loaned me the score, so we can pin down the date of that one.
If you would like a copy of the full score that I edited, I can let you have it as a PDF (also parts & a couple of reductions), or as a Sibelius® score file if you have that software. I can also export a few other score formats. Let me know.
I had to edit the score extensively as there were errors in the original, as well as it being unreadable--copyist's manuscript & miniature score. I hadn't thought of uploading my score to IMSLP; until fairly recently, I thought Sibelius was still copyright, and he may be so in the US, but not here in Canada where I reside.
I don't think I'm up to doing a musical analysis of Kullervo, though I'm honoured to be asked. I am so happy thet you're updating the articles on Sibelius' music! I look forward to reading your article on the Oceanides, one of favourite pieces; to me it captures the essence of the sea better than Debussy or RVW or anyone.
Ciao, and let me know if you want my working scores. Feel free to stay in touch! -- D Anthony Patriarche ( talk) 01:34, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
@ Gerda Arendt: @ Ipigott:
→ (?): Kullervo, Op. 7 ( sandbox).
Greetings! My ambition is for FA by the 130th anniversary of its premiere (28 April 2022). What a milestone it will be! Silence of Järvenpää ( talk) 18:22, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
See my talk today, - it's rare that a person is pictured when a dream comes true, and that the picture is shown on the Main page on a meaningful day. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:51, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
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As it happens, just yesterday I thought of you listening to the Violin Concerto in the first concert of 2021, and the president gave a reception ;) - I'll add pics, - video of the speech (in German) is already on my talk. Great music! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:10, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
I feel ashamed for taking so much time with this, but I was finally in Helsinki, so here are the runtimes. All recordings were done in 2015. From the CD liners:
Conductor | Orchestra | Years | Symphony runtime | Recording venue | Label | Ref. | ||||||
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Kim Dae-jin | Suwon Philharmonic Orchestra | 2015 | 37:54 | 42:31 | 29:15 | 33:58 | 30:30 | 28:58 | 23:27 | Suwon SK Atrium | Sony Classical | (S80210C) |
Cheers – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 13:50, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Silence of Järvenpää. I'm just posting to let you know that Discography of Sibelius symphony cycles – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for February 21. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 ( Talk) 22:44, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
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Hello, again! I am pleased to report that you can confirm that Usko Viitanen and Raili Kostia as the soloists at the Bournemouth performance (and again at the Royal Festival Hall in London three days later) were the same soloists on the recording. This is from William Mann's review in The Times on 23 November 1970 (p. 11):
Rather an extensive verbatim quote, sailing close to the wind, perhaps, given Wikipedia's scrupulous respect for copyright, but I think it's just OK, and I hope will be useful to you. Best wishes, and happy editing, Tim riley talk 21:15, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Note: I deleted the citation for the purposes of the talk page. Silence of Järvenpää ( talk) 23:28, 5 March 2022 (UTC)The world premiere of Kullervo outside of Finland was on 19 November 1970 in Bournemouth, England, with Paavo Berglund conducting the Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra and the YL Male Voice Choir; the baritone Usko Viitanen and mezzo-soprano Raili Kostia served as soloists. The next day, Berglund's crew played the symphony at the Royal Festival Hall in London; in his review of this performance for The Times, William Mann praised Kullervo as "dramatically gripping", with "choral writing [... that] is stern and monolithic, often powerful, and... eloquent solos for brother and sister"; he also described Sibelius as "a gifted musical experimenter, with as strong a sense of design as of thematic character".
My Wikipedian mentor, the late, exuberant, wise, and painfully missed Brian Boulton told me at one of our bibulous get-togethers that as a young man he was introduced to Colin Davis and was invited to the latter's house in Islington where, if you please, they discussed the ins and outs of the Eighth Symphony. I don't know what conclusion Brian, or more to the point Sir Colin, came to, but I was speechless with envy when BB told me of their discussion. The only other Sibelian thing I can think to pass on to you is that during a Sibelius symphony cycle at the Barbican 20 years or so ago, Davis, who usually stepped off the podium looking as fresh as a daisy, looked as though he was about to drop dead after conducting the Fourth Symphony. I later read that Karajan, too, was poleaxed by conducting the Fourth and couldn't do anything for days afterwards. Beecham seemed to cope, although Walter Legge observed at the time 'The few who left the hall at the end of that work must have been surprised to see that there is still active life on this planet'. Tim riley talk 22:28, 1 March 2022 (UTC) 800x600
@ Aza24, Finnusertop, FormalDude, Gerda Arendt, Ipigott, and Tim riley: Hello, friends and mentors! Today is 28 April 2022—exactly 130 years ago to the day, in 1892, Jean Sibelius's marvelous Kullervo Symphony premiered to the public in the Ceremonial Hall at the University of Helsinki, the composer conducting. While I didn't make my deadline for FA, the work goes on, the cause endures. Hope this day finds you well, happy, and productive. Warmly, ~ Silence of Järvenpää ( talk) 00:11, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
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good plans! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 04:58, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
I heard Be Still, My Soul recently, and wonder if it should have an article beyond Finlandia? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:20, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Hello, assembled friends Aza24, Finnusertop, Gerda Arendt, and Ipigott! A great mystery awaits, should you wish to assist. No worries if this isn't your 'cup of tea' (pun intended... you'll get it after reading and clicking) :P
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Thank you for this, and the Maiden, and for what you told Aza24. - Look at the church where I heard VOCES8. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:50, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
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On 7 September 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Matti Lehtinen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Matti Lehtinen, a baritone of the Finnish National Opera and professor of singing at the Sibelius Academy, was the voice of God at age 93? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Matti Lehtinen. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Matti Lehtinen), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Thank you for what you did for him, and for the Maiden. Do you have DYK plans for her? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:37, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
The rose pic was taken on 11 Sep 2021, and this year was full of music that day, Tag des offenen Denkmals, not only singing in church and rehearsals for Verdi's Requiem, but two concerts at special places pictured, one a synagogue (pictured on its wall). Today three DYK: a piece we'll perform on Sunday, a violinist we heard in June playing the Berg Concerto, and a Youth Orchestra shaped by a conductor who recently died. Almost too much of a good thing. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:36, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
Chamber music pictured today: Spannungen -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:27, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
travel and strings sound -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:45, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
On 23 September 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Maiden in the Tower, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that The Maiden in the Tower, the only opera by Jean Sibelius, was withdrawn after only three performances with the intention to revise it, which never happened? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Maiden in the Tower. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, The Maiden in the Tower), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Hi, Aza24. Hope you've been well! Sorry that I've been AWOL due to IRL. Anyway, a quick question: there's a user who keeps making disruptive edits (e.g., not following MOS and partial conversions of US Eng to GB Eng without first discussing on the Talk Page) to Kullervo and The Wood Nymph. While I was able to revert the former, I was unable to do so to the latter, due to (1) the user making more than one published batch of edits and (2) another user coming in to typo-fix. I thus think I need a rollback, but have never requested one and was hopeful you could point me in the right direction. On another note: Is there a way that the problematic editor can be reined in? They're creating unnecessary labor for others... oops, I better say labour! :P Warmly, ~ Silence of Järvenpää 13:43, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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It's his birthday! - Today, also a hymn for a Marian feast, and I learned that Yvonne Ciannella died, the soprano who impressed me in my first night at the opera. As she died in March, sadly no Main page reverence is possible, - at least she had a good DYK, at a time when opera singers were considered interesting. I'm proud today that Christiane Hörbiger made it to that corner, and happy that we celebrate the birthday of Jean Sibelius again. - I heard an excellent Christmas concert yesterday, by Tenebrae, and a short excerpt of them singing " Deo gracias" is also linked from my talk. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:18, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
Today was a day rich in music, with two new pictures, and also rich in WP:QAI contributions on the Main page: the TFA, 2 DYK and 2 RD with members as principal editors. The church pictured there (not by me, nice snow dust and tall evergreen) comes with memories, detailed on my talk. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:18, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Enjoy the season, dreaming of peace! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:56, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
Hi, Finnusertop! A happy new year to you. I have been looking to work on the article for Sibelius's Voces intimae string quartet (1909), which is his lone notable work for chamber ensemble. Using the digitized newspaper archives, I have located the original reviews from the 25 April 1910 premiere. But, as we have encountered before, the Finnish-language press used that old style font, and neither I (typing manually into Google translate) nor the ORC service can read it. I was hopeful you could provide me a translation of two brief reviews. They are as follows:
For the Uusi Suometar, you could begin at "Seuraji sitten illan huippukohta ..." (i.e., skip the non-Sibelius part of the program). And for the Helsingin Sanomat, I would only need the paragraph that begins with "Musiikki-illassa eilen esitettiin ensi kerran Jean Sibeliuksen ..." (By the way, any idea who the reviewer is? All the paper provides is the initial W.). Many, many thanks for your help, if you can! ~ Silence of Järvenpää 20:21, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
[...] Highlights of the night followed with Sibelius' new grand quartet which – the score has been printed for six months now – has been anticipated with exictement. To begin with, the quartet made a great and wonderful impact. Although most listeners might have found most of its content incomprihensible, the genious that is imprinted in it and the dazzling height the composer's imagination has sorared to could not have failed to impress everone who has heard it. Yours truly thinks this piece is the most magnificient one ever written by Siebelius. The carlity of thought and mastership of execution are equally astonishing in it. The material is manipulated by the master as easily as wax, taking the shape of musical images whether they be sparkling and upbeat or calmn and solemn. The composer is playing with form and nothing is no longer impossible for him. It is total domination of mind over matter. Probably in no other piece has Sibelius been so "airborne". The grand Adagio part evokes memories of Beethoven's last quartets and in the last, fast-paced Allegro part we find ourselves in the middle of a fantasy world in the midst of the night among playing elves and faries, thousands of sounds meeting our ears from this and that direction drawing us into the flaring whirls of their lively dance.
For the second time now I am allowed to return to the etheric and mysterious (the composer calls his quartet by the name of "Voces intimae") style and its [above-mentioned?] qualities. This time it suffices for me to simply express my joy due to this new compositional piece characteristic of the flight of imagination and mastership of form that the artist has created.
In a technical sense the quartet is almost unnaturally difficult. That is not to say that it would be outside the boundaries of "playability"; it just sets enormous requirements for the alertness and skill of performers. In light of this the school's quartet deserves honest congratulations. The performance is a remarkable accomplishment for it. [1]
At the music night last night Jean Sibelius' newest string quartet op. 56 which the composer has given the name "Voces intimae" was premiered. The composition evoked lively attention and it undoubtedly can be counted among the most ingenious works of its kind. It is not a composition for the general public, because of how strange and atypical it is. From the short prelude, the Andante, we arritve at an energetic Vivace, from which different instruments form a most enjoyable and echoing fabric by criss-crossing beteween different images of music. The sense of echo is veritably immersive in this part as well as the Adagio which is in its benevolence and spirituality an unparallelled bit. In the Allegretto it is excellently entertaining themes that capture one's attention that at times organize fast-paced runs in intermediary sounds. I hope this fine quartet will be performed many more times so that we may have a chance to study its secrets more closely. – The composition was performed by Messrs. Rowacek, Hurstinen, Lindelöf and Bersfelt in a fairly smooth manner when we take into account its terrifying difficulty.
Mr. Sulo Hurstinen, who by the way was in the middle of action all night long, played correctly and with firm sound a few violin pieces, Lalo's romance in D minor and one of Gossec's gabots the latter of which had to be subjected to an encore due to extremely warm applause.
As the first number of the programme, Hand's string quartet op. 54 2 C major was performed. – Last night's music night was the final one of this [season]. [2]
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Thank you for restoring Carl Nielsen! - My story today is about the Alchymic Quartet, the last DYK from last year. - The songs are about vacation. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:46, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Aza24 ~ Hi! Could you possibly, when you have a moment, read through Water Droplets and provide it a rating on its talk page? It's quite a short article. Thanks! ~ Silence of Järvenpää 23:57, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
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Good to see the Water droplets on the Main page! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:15, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
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Dear Silence. You posted a translation request to me some time ago, but I failed to respond to it quickly. Do you still need it? I am terribly sorry. I've been busy and slightly unmotivated. – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 19:26, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Silence of Järvenpää. Sorry to bother you right as you return, but you've added some short form refs that don't have the required cite.
In Hymn of the Earth (Sibelius) you added "E. Klas—Ondine (ODE 754-2) 1990", "P. Järvi—Virgin Classics (7243 5 45589 2 4) 2003", and "O. Vänskä—BIS (CD-1365) 2005".
In Väinämöinen’s Song "Barnett 2006", "E. Klas—Ondine (ODE 754-2) 1990", "P. Järvi—Virgin Classics (7243 5 45589 2 4) 2003", and "O. Vänskä—BIS (CD-1565) 2006".
In Oma maa "O. Vänskä—BIS (BIS CD-1265) 2004", "P. Berglund—Warner (0190295869151) 2017", "E. Klas—Ondine (ODE 754-2) 1990", "O. Vänskä—BIS (CD-1265) 2004", and "P. Järvi—Virgin Classics (7243 5 45589 2 4) 2003".
Short form refs such as {{ sfn}} are hyperlinks to full cites, could you add the required cites to Sources section of each article? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆ transmissions∆ ° co-ords° 14:27, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
Hello again Silence of Järvenpää. You added "Dahlström 2007" to Impromptu (Sibelius), but only "Dahlström 2003" is defined. Is this just a typo? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆ transmissions∆ ° co-ords° 16:50, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
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So glad you're working on the wonderful Langgaard tone poem. Have you seen this delightful clip? Aza24 (talk) 08:12, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Silence of Järvenpää. You've used references to "Barnett 2004" and "Okkonen 1990" in My Own Land, but neither are defined in the article. There is a "Barnett 2005" so I don't know if that's just a typo, but "Okkonen 1990" is missing completely. Could you add the missing cites or let me know what works these refer to? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested « @» ° ∆t° 21:43, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
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@ Aza24: Hi, Aza! I have been at work on the Sibelius art songs, but as usual, I cannot determine the difference between major and minor identical key signatures. Given your expertise, I was hoping you could help complete the table at Six Songs, Op. 36 (Sibelius) for me. The score is available via IMSLP. Thanks! (Will also soon make tables for Op. 13, Op. 17, Op. 37, and Op.38). Warmly, ~ Silence of Järvenpää 04:38, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Your edit of 19:24, 20 April 2024 (UTC) of
List of compositions by Jean Sibelius introduced {{
sort}} templates wrapping {{
Collapsible list}} templates. Unfortunately, this and subsequent edits of this type introduced 75
div-span-flip lint errors (more than the 21 shown). The issue is that block level markup, such as <div>...</div>
, can wrap inline markup, such as <span>...</span>
, but not vice versa. {{
sort}} wraps its argument with <span>...</span>
, and the output of {{
Collapsible list}} is block-level. If sort templates are needed, something has to be different in order to avoid these lint errors. —
Anomalocaris (
talk) 09:28, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
{{Sort|foo}}{{Collapsible list|....}}
. Don't wrap the big list template in the Sort template. Do it once for an unusual term that is not currently sorting correctly, then see if it sorts correctly. If so, fix the rest of them. Ping me again if that doesn't work or make sense. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 19:41, 21 April 2024 (UTC)