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Back to Cantata: Because I don't believe that cantata composition stopped with Brahms, I created a new section I wanted to call 20th century - until I noticed that it would not include Mahler. Please have a look, for a better title and for the compilation of pieces - I'm not an expert, remove what you think should not be there and add what you know. I wonder if Britten's The Company of Heaven would also qualify? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 18:08, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your recent help. This article has been "discovered" by someone, combined with 2 other shorter ones and published as a book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1158406029/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new Now I am trying to improve it and I am grateful for your help. Do you have any suggestions on how I could improve the biography ? Cote d'Azur 04:47, 6 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cote d'Azur ( talk • contribs)
Right, I will bear it in mind. At the moment it is not possible to get more biographical information but the time will come when passages from the books will be integrated in the article text, together with some new data. Thank you very much indeed and apology that my signature is not working Cote d'Azur 17:59, 6 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cote d'Azur ( talk • contribs)
Just now, in a discussion about whether to link from Tosca to cantata (because she is singing one), I recommended to do so because cantata is greatly improved, thanks to you! Now that I installed a piece written in 1915, Requiem (Reger), I have a few questions. I didn't call that CM, right? But it is 20th century. I wonder how to say something about Late-romantic music, at least when the size of the orchestra is mentioned, but there is no article like that. There is Romantic music which doesn't quite fit and has problems, as discussed here, talking Gustav Mahler. What do you think? - If you want to please me more, look at the score of the Reger and improve the music section, which at the moment is written from a singer's pov. (We will sing it in August.) More specific: I heard Reger's op. 83/10 once and remember it as very similar in musical means, but don't have access to a score to substantiate that. Do you? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 12:50, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Once you are looking at him, could you also look at his Viola Concerto, please? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:15, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi Jerome,
Thanks for noticing my updates on the Boulez Anthèmes page, and also the citation shortcomings in it! I spent four summers at the Lucerne festival with Mr. Boulez, playing Anthèmes for him twice and interviewing him about it twice additionally. Some of this I have recorded, and I used the information I learned towards a lecture recital of the piece in my DMA programme at Stony Brook University.
As I can see that you have used and edited Wikipedia much more than I have, I would be glad to learn from you what the proper way of citing these interviews in Wikipedia. I am sure that my interviews did not bring new information to the fore, but rather are transcripts of information that he would tell any performer who cares to ask.
Sincerely, CCCCAASS ( talk) 23:45, 10 August 2010 (UTC) Claudia Schaer
- Unfortunately, the interviews just went towards a lecture-recital that I gave as part of my programme, no publication or thesis. However, I'm confident that any violinist who has played the piece for him will encounter the same directives, and the interviews are recorded - so while I am confident of the truth of the information I have written, I suppose I cannot prove it in the wikipedia forum other than by citing it as Original Research. CCCCAASS ( talk) 18:56, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks so much for clarifying - and also for sourcing my Boulez statements to very similar ones Goldman quotes from him! I had read Goldman's paper on Anthèmes several years ago, but interviewed Boulez more recently, and without having my own notes in front of me had Boulez's more clearly in my ear. Again, I appreciate it! Best, CCCCAASS ( talk) 05:58, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Did you know ... that the 80th birthday of Walter Fink is celebrated on 16 August 2010 at the Rheingau Musik Festival with compositions of Kirchner, Lachenmann, Rihm, Widmann and Hosokawa? (for that day) - Would you have a look at the composers mentioned, please. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:33, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
The link you deleted is very much alive--someone edited it by adding text in a way that mucked it up.
Check this: http://www.music.umich.edu/faculty_staff/bio.php?u=gwatkins —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.3.116.119 ( talk) 22:45, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
I warned you about 3RR. Unfortunately you didn't listen. I have now made a complaint at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. I am surprised that an editor of your experience whom I personally have always found to be rational, easy to work with, productive, and a valuable resource has persisted in an edit war beyond the three revert rule. I know you are better than this. 4meter4 ( talk) 04:37, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
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tariqabjotu 14:14, 16 August 2010 (UTC) Somewhat to my surprise, the immortal but departed User:Geogre has returned as an anon. You may find this section to be of use. Go down to "Oh, this will go to FAR!" Geogre was one of the most persuasive writers I have met on the project; have a look at his arguments in favor of parenthetical referencing. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 19:13, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Jerome, I always read classical music articles thoroughly. There is not one single inline reference in your article that complies with WP:CITE. Please read it thoroughly before making inappropriate edit summaries. Cheers, -- Kudpung ( talk) 04:36, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
I've added a stub article on the Serenata for Orchestra, which seems to have attracted a lot of unwelcome attention and hope to have a good summary article on the Violin Fantasia ready soon. Then I can move on to the Quartets Graham1973 ( talk) 15:54, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Jerome, I spotted an inconsistency which I cannot solve. Do you happen to know whether CΔ means CM or CM7? (see Talk:Chord (music)). Please feel free to answer here, or to ignore my request if you are busy. Paolo.dL ( talk) 17:02, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Firstly I feel very shocked that experienced wiki users like you making such a edit on article that is rated as good one. How can you argue saying many blogs regard ilaiyaraaja as fairly good composer. It is nothing but you are insulting the person involved in the article. The world knows India knows and people in music world knows and lastly all general public knows he is a born genius. The source given are all valid ones & how come you say those are mere blogs. Some times wiki admins make normal users like me to go hanged with there irrealistic and inrationale approach.
You have a proper right and as a rollbacker & reviewer you please do not mistake here. He is regarded as the greatest/finest music composer of india with no doubt. Common man he is composer who is welcomed everywhere he goes. Saying under the names of rules and rollbacker power please do not break the article good content, which many like me see as a bible of information. Expecting a edit change from you. Please please for God sake try to understand me here.
Ungal Vettu Pillai 07:39, 9 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keyan20 ( talk • contribs)
http://www.famouslikeme.com/Composer/I/list.html http://www.famouslikeme.com/46750/article.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/us/features/topten/ http://movies.ndtv.com/movie_story.aspx?id=ENTEN20100153629&keyword=music§ion=Movies&subcatg=MUSICINDIA ----- all these are most trusted and accepted ones.
Ungal Vettu Pillai 03:40, 10 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keyan20 ( talk • contribs)
Hi. Firstly I accept that people who have no idea about illayaraaja will tend to think in your way. In india two forms of music style is there. One---> Carnatic music ; Two---> Hindustani music. He is a master in both versions. In carnatic music he created many new ragas and integrated them suiting its need in composing for films in his own style. No where any other film music composer can do in india. And one more Some musicians are skilled in certain areas, but he is a great musician in all forms: western, classical, regional, folk etc., which is an unusal gift. Again you may have disbelief and I respect you. But just think why should I be here in explaining all these, becoz there are hundreads of secrets kept behind this man as he never comes out,gives interview. Please do your own research about him. You will accept me in more ways.
In a time in india where there was no one to have idea on symphony. He did that first from a very very remote back-ground. He composes tunes within 20-30 min for a film with 6-7 tracks and he will leave. He did movies at a scale that even his guru/rivals would get proud of. Almost he did 400-500 films in a span of 7-8 years at his peak from 1985-1994. these facts are all not easy/simple to do. And so even other known music composers/singers give respect for him. My friend he is a composer more than films. Please do a little more research. Do not feel bad. I just wanted to share my idead with you. So did. Thats it !!!. Many thanks.. !!
--Ungal Vettu Pillai 22:18, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bD7IoPbVPM4/Sqneha5BP9I/AAAAAAAABSE/Zq4LKTLnQZY/s1600-h/Ilayaraja-Frontline_19870001.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bD7IoPbVPM4/Sqneg2NSaGI/AAAAAAAABR8/84qgOQzxIYk/s1600-h/Ilayaraja-Frontline_19870002.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bD7IoPbVPM4/SqnegVIi12I/AAAAAAAABR0/2DvQBMcO0TE/s1600-h/Ilayaraja-Frontline_19870003.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bD7IoPbVPM4/SqnegHcE3OI/AAAAAAAABRs/mcFrLZrJ63s/s1600-h/Ilayaraja-Frontline_19870004.jpg
--Dont see this as blog but see the content as it is a verifiable source/proof. Indeed this is done using a scanner and uploaded. Again Content is true !! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keyan20 ( talk • contribs) 04:02, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Ungal Vettu Pillai 04:03, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Dr. Kohl. I would appreciate if you would review my comments at Talk:Enharmonic under "Disagreement Upheld" before I make efforts to change (correct) the article. I am not a Ph.D in music theory but did a Theory Pedagogy Cognate while doing a DMA in Piano. But all of that doesn't matter because it regards stuff I was taught before I started college. I hope we will be in agreement. Emdelrio ( talk) 01:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Ah yes. Thank you for the clarification. Emdelrio ( talk) 23:49, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
I recently placed some tags on Music therapy, and thought that you may be interested. All is One ( talk) 19:36, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
Dr. Kohl, I wonder with your resources/access if you might be able to help me with finding the dates of the above named composer. He must have been a very minor one in that it has been impossible for me to find anything. I know of him in that he wrote a delightfully picturesque piece which serves as a wonderful encore (in the "after-dinner-mint" vein, evidently his only published work) called "The Musical Box: A Caprice" dedicated to Isabelle Schuster, and published by Robert Cocks and Co., London. I was able to purchase a PDF of it from the National Library of Australia which lists the date of publication as "187?". I already checked an old 3rd edition of Groves. (This work was transposed and simplified slightly by William Smallwood and published by the same publisher as No.14 of a series called "Home Treasures.") Don't knock yourself out over this, but if you find this I believe you will be the only man on planet earth alive who knows it ... until you share it with me :) Emdelrio ( talk) 15:00, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Most impressive indeed! Emdelrio ( talk) 01:16, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Dr. Kohl -sorry to bother you again- I have an "article" that I wrote a LONG time ago (can you say dot-matrix printer) on the subject of (shall I say it) my perceived error regarding the meter of *a portion* of the Op.111 (came to face with the issue when I learned the work to perform it in a doctoral seminar for the DMA at the Cincinnati CCM). I intended to try to publish the article in some piano/keyboard rag but my life went on in other directions (I'm now a physician and am joyously reawakening my performing again). Anyway, with the invention of the internet and scanners and Wikipedia (of course) I may now have an easy possible outlet for the concept. I wonder if you would read this (in its unvarnished 1st iteration version) and tell me if you think it could serve some purpose here on Wikipedia. I will provide you my email (edelrio3@cox.net) to which you may reply if you would accept a PDF scan or a hard copy sent to an address. It is almost 6 pages in length. Thank you for your consideration. Emdelrio ( talk) 15:50, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Hello,
just in case, the same user has added more tone row pictures to Wikipedia, apparently all referenced to the same book. I'm no expert, unfortunately, but to me there seems to be a problem with his picture for Variations for piano (Webern) at least; the analysis I've seen in a Bailey book is different. It would be great if you could take a look at the article; I've explained my concerns at the talk page there. There may be problems with other pictures, too. -- Jashiin ( talk) 17:58, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Jerome, I was pointed to you. I am surprised because there are five composers on the CD in question, Vivaldi is the one I would not have associated with you, but let's see. On a high pitch, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 19:49, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
If I were reviewing the article at GAN or FAC, I would not question a ref either to the cover of the score or to the colour wheel. I don't see either as significantly different from using a map as a reference, for example. They all require more interpretation that plain prose text, but I think that's fine. A claim of "deep violet-blue" probably won't lead to an argument. (I hope I have answered the right question.) By the way, I like the addition of the names, Himmelfahrt and so on, to the heads. Finetooth ( talk) 00:42, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
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I've never awarded a barnstar before, but that's some mighty fine looking cleanup you've done at Milton Babbitt. Good stuff! -- WikHead ( talk) 18:04, 12 November 2010 (UTC) |
I am new to wikipedia and not sure what I did wrong on one of my first ever edits but * "Belonging: Lopsided Lullaby" by Joshua Redman is definitely in 9/4. It is hard for me to find a satisfactory reference being an enthusiast, not a professional, and hard to understand how unusual an example of 9/4 needs to be to be unusual enough. That criteria isn't specified in the article. Please can you help keen contributor by explaining etiquette and rules here?
Thank you for In Freundschaft! (I don't understand the footnotes tag.) It was played in Berlin, in memoriam William Waterhouse, because he admired it (s. Programm). In Freundschaft, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:23, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
hee hee... all caps is apparently a convention cognitive linguists use for labeling conceptual metaphors, maybe to distinguish them from image schemata? I do not know. yours in considerately hushed tones, __ Just plain Bill ( talk) 00:08, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
You've made lots of edits to Quintuple meter. You never made a single edit, however, to Quadruple meter. Check it out. Please note, however, that I suggest that if you wish to create a list of songs in that article, please do ones written in 4/2 or 4/8. 4/4 is very common and the article should merely mention that it's the most common time signature. Georgia guy ( talk) 20:25, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your reference, I am from the Waterloo area and patrol the cite. There is now a discussion going on at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline#References for Notable people due to an editor inserting the {{ unsourced section}} into the Waterloo Notable people section a few days ago. My question is since it is a book and not a website I can check, does it cite the connection to Waterloo and not just Notability (the disagreement with the now used tag). I think it probably does but I want to verify. If it does just leave the reference and I will accept it as verified, if not please remove it Thanks-- RifeIdeas Talk 21:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Hello, this is just to let you know that I have granted you the "autopatrolled" permission. This won't affect your editing, it just automatically marks any page you create as patrolled, benefiting new page patrollers. Please remember:
I saw that. :) -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 05:48, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
I've been busy these holiday seasons, and am a bit late, but wanted to thank you for all the clean-up work you did on my expansion to the Ligeti "Atmospheres" article. My own forte is writing about film and literature, not at all about music. You are clearly a professional in the music field. All your amendations to my work were much appreciated.-- WickerGuy ( talk) 19:08, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi. You've placed a lot of "page required" tags on Modernity now, but there is a big judgement call to be made if I try to satisfy you. As these are summary paragraphs, to correctly tag every single assertion would require multiple page references per sentence. Or I could also break up the running flow of description to help. Either way it hurts the article's readability, and WP policy leaves such things to editors to decide ("page numbers where appropriate" says WP:V). It might even look like I was being deliberately WP:POINTy. Can you guide me a bit therefore about what bits you think most in need of referencing?-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 19:10, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
I continue to find your preferences a bit surprising. I know this does not mean they are against any policy of course. Anyway, I was more surprised this round by your removal of all the handy linking templates. That would seem to me to have been avoidable, and against the spirit of Wikipedia:Manual of Style (linking) which says "build the web"? You also requested some page numbers for some essays within Strauss and Cropsey's History of Political Philosophy. I think it best you put them in, in order to get the format "right". Here they are, including the ones you did not ask for:
Regards-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 08:58, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi - I know you've had discussions before about the (extremely broad) List of composers by name but how would you feel about establishing some minimal criteria for inclusion in this list?
You may have noticed that I have been trying to flesh out the list over the last few months by adding a variety of genuine composers with WP biographies. Personally I feel that if this list has any merit at all it is that genuine composers can be located without having to know much specific about them (such as their dates, era, genre) - but it detracts considerably if non-composers, etc. are thrown in as well.
As a first step I'd like to suggest removing all redlinks from this list. I'm not against redlinks in composer lists generally - in lists with a narrower defined scope editors should be able to determine whether a redlink fits or not. Indeed I feel redlinks can be positively useful for indicating gaps -something which a category can't do - but in this list it's not so easy to draw up boundaries. The benefits of removing redlinks here would be to remove dubious entries from self-publicists etc. Of course there are quite a lot of genuine composers here who are still redlinks too (particularly under ' L' where someone seems to have gone through Grove and added dozens), but they could remain redlinks on more specific lists and be added to this one once someone has written a biography.
Naturally any change like this needs some level of general support and once implemented would need to be clearly stated. At this stage I'm just trying to find out what you think. (RT) ( talk) 20:37, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Please contribute to discussion at;
Thanks Redheylin ( talk) 07:06, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
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Aleatoricism caught my eye, and I was impressed how short work was made of it. It is better to have a stub and be thought insufficient than to have reams of
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Back to Cantata: Because I don't believe that cantata composition stopped with Brahms, I created a new section I wanted to call 20th century - until I noticed that it would not include Mahler. Please have a look, for a better title and for the compilation of pieces - I'm not an expert, remove what you think should not be there and add what you know. I wonder if Britten's The Company of Heaven would also qualify? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 18:08, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your recent help. This article has been "discovered" by someone, combined with 2 other shorter ones and published as a book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1158406029/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new Now I am trying to improve it and I am grateful for your help. Do you have any suggestions on how I could improve the biography ? Cote d'Azur 04:47, 6 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cote d'Azur ( talk • contribs)
Right, I will bear it in mind. At the moment it is not possible to get more biographical information but the time will come when passages from the books will be integrated in the article text, together with some new data. Thank you very much indeed and apology that my signature is not working Cote d'Azur 17:59, 6 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cote d'Azur ( talk • contribs)
Just now, in a discussion about whether to link from Tosca to cantata (because she is singing one), I recommended to do so because cantata is greatly improved, thanks to you! Now that I installed a piece written in 1915, Requiem (Reger), I have a few questions. I didn't call that CM, right? But it is 20th century. I wonder how to say something about Late-romantic music, at least when the size of the orchestra is mentioned, but there is no article like that. There is Romantic music which doesn't quite fit and has problems, as discussed here, talking Gustav Mahler. What do you think? - If you want to please me more, look at the score of the Reger and improve the music section, which at the moment is written from a singer's pov. (We will sing it in August.) More specific: I heard Reger's op. 83/10 once and remember it as very similar in musical means, but don't have access to a score to substantiate that. Do you? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 12:50, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Once you are looking at him, could you also look at his Viola Concerto, please? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:15, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi Jerome,
Thanks for noticing my updates on the Boulez Anthèmes page, and also the citation shortcomings in it! I spent four summers at the Lucerne festival with Mr. Boulez, playing Anthèmes for him twice and interviewing him about it twice additionally. Some of this I have recorded, and I used the information I learned towards a lecture recital of the piece in my DMA programme at Stony Brook University.
As I can see that you have used and edited Wikipedia much more than I have, I would be glad to learn from you what the proper way of citing these interviews in Wikipedia. I am sure that my interviews did not bring new information to the fore, but rather are transcripts of information that he would tell any performer who cares to ask.
Sincerely, CCCCAASS ( talk) 23:45, 10 August 2010 (UTC) Claudia Schaer
- Unfortunately, the interviews just went towards a lecture-recital that I gave as part of my programme, no publication or thesis. However, I'm confident that any violinist who has played the piece for him will encounter the same directives, and the interviews are recorded - so while I am confident of the truth of the information I have written, I suppose I cannot prove it in the wikipedia forum other than by citing it as Original Research. CCCCAASS ( talk) 18:56, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks so much for clarifying - and also for sourcing my Boulez statements to very similar ones Goldman quotes from him! I had read Goldman's paper on Anthèmes several years ago, but interviewed Boulez more recently, and without having my own notes in front of me had Boulez's more clearly in my ear. Again, I appreciate it! Best, CCCCAASS ( talk) 05:58, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Did you know ... that the 80th birthday of Walter Fink is celebrated on 16 August 2010 at the Rheingau Musik Festival with compositions of Kirchner, Lachenmann, Rihm, Widmann and Hosokawa? (for that day) - Would you have a look at the composers mentioned, please. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:33, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
The link you deleted is very much alive--someone edited it by adding text in a way that mucked it up.
Check this: http://www.music.umich.edu/faculty_staff/bio.php?u=gwatkins —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.3.116.119 ( talk) 22:45, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
I warned you about 3RR. Unfortunately you didn't listen. I have now made a complaint at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. I am surprised that an editor of your experience whom I personally have always found to be rational, easy to work with, productive, and a valuable resource has persisted in an edit war beyond the three revert rule. I know you are better than this. 4meter4 ( talk) 04:37, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
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tariqabjotu 14:14, 16 August 2010 (UTC) Somewhat to my surprise, the immortal but departed User:Geogre has returned as an anon. You may find this section to be of use. Go down to "Oh, this will go to FAR!" Geogre was one of the most persuasive writers I have met on the project; have a look at his arguments in favor of parenthetical referencing. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 19:13, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Jerome, I always read classical music articles thoroughly. There is not one single inline reference in your article that complies with WP:CITE. Please read it thoroughly before making inappropriate edit summaries. Cheers, -- Kudpung ( talk) 04:36, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
I've added a stub article on the Serenata for Orchestra, which seems to have attracted a lot of unwelcome attention and hope to have a good summary article on the Violin Fantasia ready soon. Then I can move on to the Quartets Graham1973 ( talk) 15:54, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Jerome, I spotted an inconsistency which I cannot solve. Do you happen to know whether CΔ means CM or CM7? (see Talk:Chord (music)). Please feel free to answer here, or to ignore my request if you are busy. Paolo.dL ( talk) 17:02, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Firstly I feel very shocked that experienced wiki users like you making such a edit on article that is rated as good one. How can you argue saying many blogs regard ilaiyaraaja as fairly good composer. It is nothing but you are insulting the person involved in the article. The world knows India knows and people in music world knows and lastly all general public knows he is a born genius. The source given are all valid ones & how come you say those are mere blogs. Some times wiki admins make normal users like me to go hanged with there irrealistic and inrationale approach.
You have a proper right and as a rollbacker & reviewer you please do not mistake here. He is regarded as the greatest/finest music composer of india with no doubt. Common man he is composer who is welcomed everywhere he goes. Saying under the names of rules and rollbacker power please do not break the article good content, which many like me see as a bible of information. Expecting a edit change from you. Please please for God sake try to understand me here.
Ungal Vettu Pillai 07:39, 9 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keyan20 ( talk • contribs)
http://www.famouslikeme.com/Composer/I/list.html http://www.famouslikeme.com/46750/article.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/us/features/topten/ http://movies.ndtv.com/movie_story.aspx?id=ENTEN20100153629&keyword=music§ion=Movies&subcatg=MUSICINDIA ----- all these are most trusted and accepted ones.
Ungal Vettu Pillai 03:40, 10 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keyan20 ( talk • contribs)
Hi. Firstly I accept that people who have no idea about illayaraaja will tend to think in your way. In india two forms of music style is there. One---> Carnatic music ; Two---> Hindustani music. He is a master in both versions. In carnatic music he created many new ragas and integrated them suiting its need in composing for films in his own style. No where any other film music composer can do in india. And one more Some musicians are skilled in certain areas, but he is a great musician in all forms: western, classical, regional, folk etc., which is an unusal gift. Again you may have disbelief and I respect you. But just think why should I be here in explaining all these, becoz there are hundreads of secrets kept behind this man as he never comes out,gives interview. Please do your own research about him. You will accept me in more ways.
In a time in india where there was no one to have idea on symphony. He did that first from a very very remote back-ground. He composes tunes within 20-30 min for a film with 6-7 tracks and he will leave. He did movies at a scale that even his guru/rivals would get proud of. Almost he did 400-500 films in a span of 7-8 years at his peak from 1985-1994. these facts are all not easy/simple to do. And so even other known music composers/singers give respect for him. My friend he is a composer more than films. Please do a little more research. Do not feel bad. I just wanted to share my idead with you. So did. Thats it !!!. Many thanks.. !!
--Ungal Vettu Pillai 22:18, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bD7IoPbVPM4/Sqneha5BP9I/AAAAAAAABSE/Zq4LKTLnQZY/s1600-h/Ilayaraja-Frontline_19870001.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bD7IoPbVPM4/Sqneg2NSaGI/AAAAAAAABR8/84qgOQzxIYk/s1600-h/Ilayaraja-Frontline_19870002.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bD7IoPbVPM4/SqnegVIi12I/AAAAAAAABR0/2DvQBMcO0TE/s1600-h/Ilayaraja-Frontline_19870003.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bD7IoPbVPM4/SqnegHcE3OI/AAAAAAAABRs/mcFrLZrJ63s/s1600-h/Ilayaraja-Frontline_19870004.jpg
--Dont see this as blog but see the content as it is a verifiable source/proof. Indeed this is done using a scanner and uploaded. Again Content is true !! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keyan20 ( talk • contribs) 04:02, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Ungal Vettu Pillai 04:03, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Dr. Kohl. I would appreciate if you would review my comments at Talk:Enharmonic under "Disagreement Upheld" before I make efforts to change (correct) the article. I am not a Ph.D in music theory but did a Theory Pedagogy Cognate while doing a DMA in Piano. But all of that doesn't matter because it regards stuff I was taught before I started college. I hope we will be in agreement. Emdelrio ( talk) 01:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Ah yes. Thank you for the clarification. Emdelrio ( talk) 23:49, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
I recently placed some tags on Music therapy, and thought that you may be interested. All is One ( talk) 19:36, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
Dr. Kohl, I wonder with your resources/access if you might be able to help me with finding the dates of the above named composer. He must have been a very minor one in that it has been impossible for me to find anything. I know of him in that he wrote a delightfully picturesque piece which serves as a wonderful encore (in the "after-dinner-mint" vein, evidently his only published work) called "The Musical Box: A Caprice" dedicated to Isabelle Schuster, and published by Robert Cocks and Co., London. I was able to purchase a PDF of it from the National Library of Australia which lists the date of publication as "187?". I already checked an old 3rd edition of Groves. (This work was transposed and simplified slightly by William Smallwood and published by the same publisher as No.14 of a series called "Home Treasures.") Don't knock yourself out over this, but if you find this I believe you will be the only man on planet earth alive who knows it ... until you share it with me :) Emdelrio ( talk) 15:00, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Most impressive indeed! Emdelrio ( talk) 01:16, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Dr. Kohl -sorry to bother you again- I have an "article" that I wrote a LONG time ago (can you say dot-matrix printer) on the subject of (shall I say it) my perceived error regarding the meter of *a portion* of the Op.111 (came to face with the issue when I learned the work to perform it in a doctoral seminar for the DMA at the Cincinnati CCM). I intended to try to publish the article in some piano/keyboard rag but my life went on in other directions (I'm now a physician and am joyously reawakening my performing again). Anyway, with the invention of the internet and scanners and Wikipedia (of course) I may now have an easy possible outlet for the concept. I wonder if you would read this (in its unvarnished 1st iteration version) and tell me if you think it could serve some purpose here on Wikipedia. I will provide you my email (edelrio3@cox.net) to which you may reply if you would accept a PDF scan or a hard copy sent to an address. It is almost 6 pages in length. Thank you for your consideration. Emdelrio ( talk) 15:50, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Hello,
just in case, the same user has added more tone row pictures to Wikipedia, apparently all referenced to the same book. I'm no expert, unfortunately, but to me there seems to be a problem with his picture for Variations for piano (Webern) at least; the analysis I've seen in a Bailey book is different. It would be great if you could take a look at the article; I've explained my concerns at the talk page there. There may be problems with other pictures, too. -- Jashiin ( talk) 17:58, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Jerome, I was pointed to you. I am surprised because there are five composers on the CD in question, Vivaldi is the one I would not have associated with you, but let's see. On a high pitch, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 19:49, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
If I were reviewing the article at GAN or FAC, I would not question a ref either to the cover of the score or to the colour wheel. I don't see either as significantly different from using a map as a reference, for example. They all require more interpretation that plain prose text, but I think that's fine. A claim of "deep violet-blue" probably won't lead to an argument. (I hope I have answered the right question.) By the way, I like the addition of the names, Himmelfahrt and so on, to the heads. Finetooth ( talk) 00:42, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
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I've never awarded a barnstar before, but that's some mighty fine looking cleanup you've done at Milton Babbitt. Good stuff! -- WikHead ( talk) 18:04, 12 November 2010 (UTC) |
I am new to wikipedia and not sure what I did wrong on one of my first ever edits but * "Belonging: Lopsided Lullaby" by Joshua Redman is definitely in 9/4. It is hard for me to find a satisfactory reference being an enthusiast, not a professional, and hard to understand how unusual an example of 9/4 needs to be to be unusual enough. That criteria isn't specified in the article. Please can you help keen contributor by explaining etiquette and rules here?
Thank you for In Freundschaft! (I don't understand the footnotes tag.) It was played in Berlin, in memoriam William Waterhouse, because he admired it (s. Programm). In Freundschaft, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:23, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
hee hee... all caps is apparently a convention cognitive linguists use for labeling conceptual metaphors, maybe to distinguish them from image schemata? I do not know. yours in considerately hushed tones, __ Just plain Bill ( talk) 00:08, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
You've made lots of edits to Quintuple meter. You never made a single edit, however, to Quadruple meter. Check it out. Please note, however, that I suggest that if you wish to create a list of songs in that article, please do ones written in 4/2 or 4/8. 4/4 is very common and the article should merely mention that it's the most common time signature. Georgia guy ( talk) 20:25, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your reference, I am from the Waterloo area and patrol the cite. There is now a discussion going on at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline#References for Notable people due to an editor inserting the {{ unsourced section}} into the Waterloo Notable people section a few days ago. My question is since it is a book and not a website I can check, does it cite the connection to Waterloo and not just Notability (the disagreement with the now used tag). I think it probably does but I want to verify. If it does just leave the reference and I will accept it as verified, if not please remove it Thanks-- RifeIdeas Talk 21:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Hello, this is just to let you know that I have granted you the "autopatrolled" permission. This won't affect your editing, it just automatically marks any page you create as patrolled, benefiting new page patrollers. Please remember:
I saw that. :) -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 05:48, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
I've been busy these holiday seasons, and am a bit late, but wanted to thank you for all the clean-up work you did on my expansion to the Ligeti "Atmospheres" article. My own forte is writing about film and literature, not at all about music. You are clearly a professional in the music field. All your amendations to my work were much appreciated.-- WickerGuy ( talk) 19:08, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi. You've placed a lot of "page required" tags on Modernity now, but there is a big judgement call to be made if I try to satisfy you. As these are summary paragraphs, to correctly tag every single assertion would require multiple page references per sentence. Or I could also break up the running flow of description to help. Either way it hurts the article's readability, and WP policy leaves such things to editors to decide ("page numbers where appropriate" says WP:V). It might even look like I was being deliberately WP:POINTy. Can you guide me a bit therefore about what bits you think most in need of referencing?-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 19:10, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
I continue to find your preferences a bit surprising. I know this does not mean they are against any policy of course. Anyway, I was more surprised this round by your removal of all the handy linking templates. That would seem to me to have been avoidable, and against the spirit of Wikipedia:Manual of Style (linking) which says "build the web"? You also requested some page numbers for some essays within Strauss and Cropsey's History of Political Philosophy. I think it best you put them in, in order to get the format "right". Here they are, including the ones you did not ask for:
Regards-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 08:58, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi - I know you've had discussions before about the (extremely broad) List of composers by name but how would you feel about establishing some minimal criteria for inclusion in this list?
You may have noticed that I have been trying to flesh out the list over the last few months by adding a variety of genuine composers with WP biographies. Personally I feel that if this list has any merit at all it is that genuine composers can be located without having to know much specific about them (such as their dates, era, genre) - but it detracts considerably if non-composers, etc. are thrown in as well.
As a first step I'd like to suggest removing all redlinks from this list. I'm not against redlinks in composer lists generally - in lists with a narrower defined scope editors should be able to determine whether a redlink fits or not. Indeed I feel redlinks can be positively useful for indicating gaps -something which a category can't do - but in this list it's not so easy to draw up boundaries. The benefits of removing redlinks here would be to remove dubious entries from self-publicists etc. Of course there are quite a lot of genuine composers here who are still redlinks too (particularly under ' L' where someone seems to have gone through Grove and added dozens), but they could remain redlinks on more specific lists and be added to this one once someone has written a biography.
Naturally any change like this needs some level of general support and once implemented would need to be clearly stated. At this stage I'm just trying to find out what you think. (RT) ( talk) 20:37, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks Redheylin ( talk) 07:06, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
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Aleatoricism caught my eye, and I was impressed how short work was made of it. It is better to have a stub and be thought insufficient than to have reams of
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