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Cretoxyrhina by
Macrophyseter |
Spinophorosaurus by
FunkMonk/
Jens Lallensack |
On 23 May, user Prometheus720 created a talk page post, "Revamp of Wikiproject Biology--Who is In?". In the days since, WP:BIOL has been bustling with activity, with over a dozen editors weighing in on this discussion, as well as several others that have subsequently spawned. An undercurrent of thought is that WP:BIOL has too many subprojects, preventing editors from easily interacting and stopping a "critical mass" of collaboration and engagement. Many mergers and consolidations of subprojects have been tentatively listed, with a consolidation of WikiProjects Genetics + Molecular and Cell Biology + Computational Biology + Biophysics currently in discussion. Other ideas being aired include updating old participants lists, redesigning project pages to make them more user-friendly, and clearly identifying long- and short-term goals.
Editors FunkMonk and Jens Lallensack had a very fruitful month, collaborating to bring two dinosaur articles to GA and then nominating them both for FA. They graciously decided to answer some questions for the first ToL Editor Spotlight, giving insight to their successful collaborations, explaining why you should collaborate with them, and also sharing some tidbits about their lives off-Wikipedia.
1) Enwebb: How long have you two been collaborating on articles?
2) Enwebb: Why dinosaurs?
3) Enwebb: Why should other editors join you in writing articles related to paleontology? Are you looking to attract new editors, or draw in experienced editors from other areas of Wikipedia?
4) Enwebb: Between the two of you, you have over 300 GA reviews. FunkMonk, you have over 250 of those. What keeps you coming back to review more articles?
5) Enwebb: What are your editing preferences? Any scripts or gadgets you find invaluable?
6) Enwebb: What would surprise the ToL community to learn about your life off-wiki?
Get in touch with these editors regarding collaboration at WikiProject Dinosaurs!
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Hello. Over at the Teahouse we're having a bit of a 'spring clean' by removing old entries from the list of Hosts that new users see. As you don't appear to have been very active there for some time, your 'host profile' has been removed from the list. But please don't let that put you off contributing again in the future - either by signing back up as a Host to assist on a regular basis, or just dropping in whenever you fancy helping out - especially as it's great to have input from people with an interest in flora and fauna.
Thank you for all your past help and support for new users at the Teahouse. Hope to see you there again soon. Regards, Nick Moyes ( talk) 00:15, 10 June 2019 (UTC) "
for your recent support of tagging Australian biota items - appreciated !! JarrahTree 04:57, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. CptViraj ( 📧) 18:00, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Some subproject taskforce notes would be good for tracking - For instance, a takforce for each era in paloeontology ( Cenozoic, Mesozoic, Paleozoic, and older...might be worth discussing on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Palaeontology#Task_forces? Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 23:43, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 19:04, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
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This isn't really your fault, but when running the bot on large categories, could you do that at night/when most everyone is sleeping, at least until this is fixed/improved. Basically, the bot will need to process the ~1000 articles of that category before it can process anything else. Let's say it takes ~1 minute per article to process, that's ~16 hours without anyone else being able to use the bot! Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 21:51, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Electric smoking system. Legobot ( talk) 04:27, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
Masked booby by
Casliber and
Aa77zz, reviewed by
Jens Lallensack |
Masked booby by
Casliber |
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Cats | 4.79
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Fisheries and fishing | 4.9
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Dogs | 4.91
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Viruses | 4.91
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ToL | 4.94
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Cetaceans | 4.97
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Primates | 4.98
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Sharks | 5.04
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All wikiprojects average | 5.05
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Dinosaurs | 5.12
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Equine | 5.15
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Bats | 5.25
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Mammals | 5.32
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Aquarium fishes | 5.35
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Hypericaceae | 5.38
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Turtles | 5.4
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Birds | 5.46
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Australian biota | 5.5
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Marine life | 5.54
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Animals | 5.56
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Paleontology | 5.57
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Rodents | 5.58
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Amphibians and Reptiles | 5.64
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Fungi | 5.65
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Bivalves | 5.66
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Plants | 5.67
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Algae | 5.68
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Arthropods | 5.69
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Hymenoptera | 5.72
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Microbiology | 5.72
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Cephalopods | 5.74
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Fishes | 5.76
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Ants | 5.79
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Gastropods | 5.8
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Spiders | 5.86
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Insects | 5.9
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Beetles | 5.98
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Lepidoptera | 5.98
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Within the Tree of Life and its many subprojects, there is an abundance of stubs. Welcome to Wikipedia, what's new, right? However, based on all wikiprojects listed (just over two thousand), the Tree of Life project is worse off in average article quality than most. Based on the concept of relative WikiWork (the average number of "steps" needed to have a project consisting of all featured articles (FAs), where stub status → FA consists of six steps), only seven projects within the ToL have an average rating of "start class" or better. Many projects, particularly those involving invertebrates, hover at an average article quality slightly better than a stub. With relative WikiWorks of 5.98 each, WikiProject Lepidoptera and WikiProject Beetles have the highest relative WikiWork of any project. Given that invertebrates are incredibly speciose, it may not surprise you that many articles about them are lower quality. WikiProject Beetles, for example, has over 20 times more articles than WikiProject Cats. Wikipedia will always be incomplete, so we should take our relatively low WikiWork as motivation to write more articles that are also better in quality.
We're joined for this month's Editor Spotlight by NessieVL, a long-time contributor who lists themselves as a member of WikiProject Fungus, WikiProject Algae, and WikiProject Cephalopods.
1) Enwebb: How did you come to edit articles about organisms and taxonomic groups?
2) Enwebb: Many editors in the ToL are highly specialized on a group of taxa. A look at your recently created articles includes much diversity, though, with viruses, bacteria, algae, and cnidarians all represented—are there any commonalities for the articles you work on? Would you say you're particularly interested in certain groups?
3) Enwebb: I noticed that many of your recent edits utilize the script Rater, which aids in quickly reassessing the quality and importance of an article. Why is it important to update talk page assessments of articles? I also noticed that the quality rating you assign often aligns with ORES, a script that uses machine-learning to predict article quality. Coincidence?
4) Enwebb: What, if anything, can ToL and its subprojects do to better support collaboration and coordination among editors? How can we improve?
5) Enwebb: What would surprise the ToL community to learn about your life off-Wikipedia?
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Thanks for everything you do around here to keep things running. Also for introducing me to the concept of magnet fishing :) Enwebb ( talk) 21:41, 5 July 2019 (UTC) |
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Electric smoking system. Legobot ( talk) 04:28, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Hello, NessieVL. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " Hemilyn Escudero Tamayo".
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Lapablo ( talk) 22:46, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Hi NessieVL! Thanks for italicizing Myxoma virus for me in the myxomatosis article, I did not realize that needed to be done. And also for adding in issue numbers in the footnotes. I was told however by another editor that the reference should include the specific page the foregoing information was on, not the pages of the entire article, so I changed those back. See /info/en/?search=Help:Referencing_for_beginners, "If the repeatedly used reference is a book or a lengthy paper or article, it is very helpful to have separate page references for specific facts.". Best, Rabbit Vet ( talk) 18:13, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
List of felids by
PresN |
Letter-winged kite by
Casliber |
The WikiCup, an annual editing competition, is now in its fourth round. Casliber, consistent participant since 2010 and winner in 2016, is currently dominating Group A with 601 points. Largely responsible is the successful Featured Article nomination of Masked booby. The other remaining Tree of Life participant, Enwebb, is participating in her first ever WikiCup. In this round, she has a grand total of...5 points. But with the recent Featured Article nomination of Megabat, she stands to gain 600 points if successful. As it stands, though, it appears that at least one ToL editor is headed to the fifth and final round of 8 contestants, which begins September 1. Thus far, all participants in the WikiCup have generated 17 Featured Articles, 116 Good Articles, 16 Featured Lists, and 57 Featured Pictures. The Good Article Nominations backlog has been reduced as well, with 286 Good Article Reviews. |
For this month's editor spotlight we're joined by
Charlesjsharp, a longtime contributor to Wikimedia Commons with a plethora of featured pictures on English Wikipedia. 1) Starsandwhales: How long have you been editing Wikipedia, and how did you get interested? How did you begin your journey of photographing wildlife?
2) S&W: Over the years, you've taken photos of many different organisms from birds to insects to big cats; you have an
extensive list of favorite images. Which animals have been the most exciting for you to photograph?
3) S&W: Many articles under ToL have requests for people to add images that can go unanswered. What can the community do to improve the coverage of different organisms on Wikipedia, especially when it comes to images?
4) S&W: What advice would you give to people new to photographing wildlife?
5) S&W: What would the Tree of Life community be surprised to learn about your life off-wiki?
* An example of cumbersome code: getting the layout of my responses to your questions. So dated, and no online spellchecker. |
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Sent by ZLEA via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 18:59, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
Dear NessieVL, with this , you have added the following etymology; "The Linnean name derives from ornithos (Greek: ὄρνιθος) and doros (Greek: Δωρόν), meaning "bird" and "gift," respectively."
But ὄρνις is actually the nominative singular and δῶρον would be Romanized as dōron and not as doros. Could you please check your source. I can not find one in the article. Thanks in advance, with kind regards, Wimpus ( talk) 19:15, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
it is actually necessary to use a source that explains the full compoundis not always true. You have to know the biology of the taxonomic group, what features are used to distinguish species, and what components of names are commonly used. In plants, for example, we know perfectly well what -florus and -phyllus mean (and can use Stearn as a source for the component). In spiders, we know perfectly well what -spinosus means. In mammals, we know perfectly well what -derma means. Scientific dictionaries that explain components of names are fine for the meaning of such words (although, as you have pointed out, they are not always reliable as to the precise form of lexeme normally used as the headword). Peter coxhead ( talk) 05:53, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello, NessieVL. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " Robert J. Anderson".
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! JMHamo ( talk) 12:11, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
There's now a Wikipedia:WikiProject Diptera. I don't know if it will get off the ground, but since you've been working on infrastructure for some other not-very active TOL subprojects, you might want to help get that diptera put together. Plantdrew ( talk) 22:37, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Letter-winged kite by
Casliber |
Kosmoceratops by
FunkMonk |
Guest column by Thomas Shafee ( Evolution and evolvability), Editor in Chief of WikiJournal of Science
Firstly, WikiJSci can be a complementary system for FA review (getting external review, input, and validity). When an Wikipedia article is nominated (via WP:JAN), journal editors go out to non-Wikipedian academics and researchers who have published on the subject on the last five years and invite them to give feedback comments (e.g. Peripatric speciation and Baryonyx). The resulting changes can then be integrated back into the Wikipedia article.
Getting more editors involved in Wikipedia is always a high priority. WikiJSci can also be a way to encourage new people to contribute articles (especially on missing/stub/start topics). An example of an article that was written from scratch by a group of non-Wikipedians is Teladorsagia circumcincta. This not only resulted in a new Wikipedia page on an underdeveloped topic, but introduced the idea of Wikimedia contribution to a group of people who had previously never considered it.
The journal can be a way to get multimedia content reviewed or encourage contribution. The same approach could be easily adapted to sounds (e.g. frog mating calls) or videos (e.g. starfish feet motion). It also allows for tracking of those images in new articles via Altmetric ( this example has >200, which is bananas). There aren't any biology examples in WikiJSci yet, but the sister medical journal has published a few summary diagrams, photography, and image galleries. Examples include this gallery by Blausen Medical or the diagram of cell disassembly during apoptosis.
For those interested in other Wikimedia sister projects, there's also broad scope for interactions with the WikiJournals. Perhaps peer reviewed teaching resources could be useful to sit alongside sets of Wikipedia articles and be integrated into Wikiversity courses (like this or this)? Can sections of Wikidata & Wikispecies be peer reviewed? What are the potential avenues for integration with WikiCite, WikiFactMine, Scholia, etc.? Currently, WikiJSci is aiming to be very flexible and try out different formats so long as they can be externally peer reviewed. For more info, see the 2019-06-30 Signpost article and the current sister project proposal. |
1) Enwebb: You're very prolific with DYKs, with over 2,000 nominations credited (in fact, I'll highlight which DYK nominations this month were yours below). What made you become so involved in this part of Wikipedia? Why should Tree of Life editors nominate articles for DYK?
2) Enwebb: I noticed that your DYK nominations reflect a diverse array of flora and fauna, from trees, marine invertebrates, birds, fishes, and mammals. How do you decide what to work on?
3) Enwebb: Which of your Wikipedia accomplishments are you most proud of?
4) Enwebb: What motivates you to keep contributing? What's your 10,000 ft view (pardon the non-SI) of the community and Tree of Life?
6) Enwebb: How did you first become interested in natural history?
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Sent by ZLEA via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) at 15:43, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Durio graveolens you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dunkleosteus77 -- Dunkleosteus77 ( talk) 03:41, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello, NessieVL! Here is the September 2019 issue of TheWikiWizard.
We Hope you like this month's issue! If you'd like to discuss this issue, please go to this issue's talk page. Happy Reading! Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 21:44, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
Maybe it's me, but I find the taxobox at, e.g., Alphatetraviridae, odd. What I would expect to see is:
(unranked): | Virus |
Realm: | Riboviria |
Phylum: | incertae sedis |
Class: | incertae sedis |
Order: | incertae sedis |
Family: | Alphatetraviridae |
similar to, say, Adenoviridae. It's a bit fiddly to set this up, but possible. What do you think? Peter coxhead ( talk) 14:55, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
(unranked): | Virus |
Realm: | Riboviria |
Family: | Alphatetraviridae |
(unranked): | Virus |
Realm: | Riboviria |
Order: | incertae sedis |
Family: | Alphatetraviridae |
(unranked): | Virus |
Realm: | Riboviria |
Phylum: | incertae sedis |
Family: | Alphatetraviridae |
Yes, you're right, I should have written "highest major rank" or perhaps "highest Linnaean rank". A reasonably knowledgeable reader could expect there to be an order, class or phylum, but not realm. I'm personally happy just to leave realm out. Peter coxhead ( talk) 17:44, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
The article Durio graveolens you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Durio graveolens for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dunkleosteus77 -- Dunkleosteus77 ( talk) 15:41, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
In some of your conversion to automatic taxoboxes, you're adding a bunch of blank parameters that may not be appropriate. |trend=
is not supported in taxoboxes, whether manual or automatic. I'm not sure where you're copying the parameters from but trend shouldn't be in any form of taxobox parameter documentation. Parameters for conservation status are very rarely appropriate in articles using {{
Automatic taxobox}} (CITES is the only system that does status for ranks above species), so there isn't any point in adding blank parameters for status. It's fairly uncommon for species to have any subdivisions; routinely adding blank |subdivision=
and |subdivision_ranks=
to articles using {{
Speciesbox}} seems pointless.
Plantdrew (
talk)
23:17, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
|trend=
in there. I haven't really lookmed critically at my copypasta for a bit, so I'll update it for the future. --
Nessie (
talk)
23:22, 23 September 2019 (UTC)Hi, you've signed up to participate in the Spooky Species contest. The first official day of the contest is today, so you can start claiming points for improving the designated articles (also feel free to add articles to the table). The contest runs through Oct 31! Thanks for signing up! Enwebb ( talk) 17:08, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
There is no need to add |class=Template
to a WikiProject banner that is used on a Template talk: page, just as there is no need to add |class=category
to a WikiProject banner that is used on a Category talk: page. With very few exceptions (and I can't think of any right now), a WikiProject banner that is used outside of the Talk: namespace of articles will automatically detect the class. This code is built into {{
class mask}}
, and has been there since
MSGJ (
talk ·
contribs) created it back in 2009. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
07:21, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
|class=NA
as that interferes with any automatic assessment, and there are plenty of those. --
Nessie (
talk)
17:28, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
|QUALITY_SCALE=
parameter altered in a manner that could move certain pages from NA-Class to Template-Class (or similar), and the presence of |class=NA
would prevent automatic reclassification. But to return to the original point, might I take your question of 13:24, 24 September 2019 (UTC) and turn it around: what good does it do to add |class=Template
? How does this impact anything positively? --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
22:47, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
redir
and Redirect
(also red
), case-insensitive, are treated exactly the same by {{
class mask}}
, and always have been. This is apart from the fact that for the last four years (give or take a few days) redirects have also been
autodetected when there is no |class=
set. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
19:48, 25 September 2019 (UTC)Hi Nessie. There's a duplicate TF_3_MAIN_CAT in Template:WikiProject Australia. Davemck ( talk) 17:17, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
There's a duplicate NOTE_1_TEXT in Template:WikiProject Insects. Davemck ( talk) 21:20, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Category:Brisbane articles by importance requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 02:37, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
always seemed to be a task force with no assessment possible - in Perth westernorstrylia we have the situation where a smart alec reduced perth to a task force so when somehting is assessed as perth - the west oz stuff is the assessment part - very messy - trust the brisbane stuff sorts out... JarrahTree 04:23, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
what a very weird world we live in JarrahTree 04:27, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Durio graveolens at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah ( talk) 23:33, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
Kosmoceratops by
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Apororhynchus by
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This month saw a vanishingly rare occurrence for the Tree of Life: a new WikiProject joined the fold. WikiProject Diptera, however, is also unusual in being a classroom project. Whether or not this project will stay active once the semester ends remains to be seen. It does not bode well, however, that WP:WikiProject Vespidae—a creation from the same instructor at St. Louis University—faded to obscurity shortly after the fall semester concluded in 2014. WikiProject Vespidae is defunct and now redirects to the Hymenoptera task force of WikiProject Insects. Since 2014, the Tree of Life has seen a string of years where one or zero projects or task forces were created. The only projects and task forces created since then are WikiProject Animal anatomy (2014), Hymenoptera task force (2016), Bats task force (2017), WikiProject Hypericaceae (2018), and now WikiProject Diptera (2019). The year 2006 saw the greatest creation of WikiProjects and task forces, with fourteen still active and the remaining six as "semiactive", "inactive", or "defunct". |
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Sent by ZLEA via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) at 22:26, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello,
As Data Secretary of the International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses (ICTV), I want to thank you for your efforts updating virus records in Wikipedia. But I want to highlight an error that is common in the literature, and has now crept into many Wikipedia virus records. Virus names are distinct from species names. (See https://talk.ictvonline.org/information/w/faq/386/how-to-write-virus-and-species-names.) The ICTV does not ever get involved in the naming of viruses, nor does it change the name of viruses. The ICTV only deals with the creation and naming of virus taxa. Therefore, as an example, the name of the page, "Human orthopneumovirus" is incorrect since the page describes the properties of the virus, human respiratory syncytial virus, and is not strictly a page about the species, Human orthopneumovirus. This is true of many virus pages referring to viruses belonging to the families Pneumoviridae and Paramyxoviridae. The taxon (and its name) represents a human idea, a logical construct referring to a category used for the classification of viruses. The virus is the physical entity that exists, has various properties, and causes disease.
Our recommendation would be to follow the general outline used by most research papers publishing articles about viruses in scientific journals. The taxonomic designation of the virus under study is described near the beginning of the introduction section of the paper, and provides the formal taxonomic name under which the virus is classified. The rest of the paper describes the research studying the properties of the virus, and uses the name of the virus that is in common use.
Using these suggestions, the Wikipedia page (and other similar pages) would begin "Human respiratory syncytial virus (HRSV), a member of the species Human orthopneumovirus, is a syncytial virus that causes respiratory tract infections. It is a major cause of lower respiratory tract infections and hospital visits during infancy and childhood." Then the complete taxonomic classification could be described under the "Taxonomy" section of the article (though this seems a bit redundant given the virus classification table to the upper right of the page).
Thank-you for providing us (the ICTV) with the opportunity to clarify the usage of virus taxonomic names and how they should be distinguished from virus names.
Best regards,
Elliot
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Elliot J. Lefkowitz, Ph.D. | Professor, Department of Microbiology
Data Secretary | International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses
University of Alabama at Birmingham (UAB)
Email: elliotl@uab.edu
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Howdy, just noticed you did a refill run on (parts of?) that article [1]. Looking at the results, I don't believe that was a good idea. The list is unusual in that almost all the "references" are external links - maybe that is something that should be changed, although it'd be one hell of a job with nearly 900 instances... but filling these in with text creates entries that are really hard to read. Just check the first few screens now - would you consider that an improved reading experience? It merely seems to have become harder to parse to me. I'd be tempted to undo that. Thoughts? -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 16:35, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
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If you wanna do some WikiProject tagging of new articles, there's been a flood of thrips at User:AlexNewArtBot/ArthropodsSearchResult. I'm overwhelmed. Plantdrew ( talk) 21:30, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=User_talk:Plantdrew#we%20all%20have%20our%20moments I am stumped by these small dark corners - where or what the appropriate project might release them of their red tag for talk page... JarrahTree 01:08, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
On 28 October 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Durio graveolens, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that despite a name meaning "strong-smelling durian", Durio graveolens has been described as odorless? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Durio graveolens. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, Durio graveolens), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru ( talk) 01:31, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi NessieVL. Per your edit here, it seems like the community's feelings on what constitutes an "orphan" have shifted over the years. Rich Farmbrough sums it up nicely in the intro to this discussion from 2017. At some point, Wikipedia:Orphan was changed to recommend removing the template if there just 1+ links to a page (rather than the more classical 3). I believe that now reflects common practice amongst the folks who regularly use that tag (both on the page patrolling side, and the backlog side). Folks' philosophical take on the purpose of the Orphan template may vary, but I feel that most ToL pages on little-studied species (and their parent taxa) are unlikely to be linked from any page besides their parent/child taxa any time soon. So with that in mind, I use the orphan tag to point me to pages where the parent taxa don't have pages and/or the taxoboxes haven't been updated to reflect current nomenclature. So when I see everything looks fine (in this particular case, 18 years after its original description, Babesia sp. 'North Carolina dog' remains unnamed and authors are still referring to it as "a large piroplasm found in North Carolina dogs"), I just remove the tag. Sorry this has become long-winded. But thought an explanation might be in order. Hope all is well! Happy editing! Ajpolino ( talk) 02:49, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Longan witches broom-associated virus at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:14, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
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Spinophorosaurus by
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On 23 May, user Prometheus720 created a talk page post, "Revamp of Wikiproject Biology--Who is In?". In the days since, WP:BIOL has been bustling with activity, with over a dozen editors weighing in on this discussion, as well as several others that have subsequently spawned. An undercurrent of thought is that WP:BIOL has too many subprojects, preventing editors from easily interacting and stopping a "critical mass" of collaboration and engagement. Many mergers and consolidations of subprojects have been tentatively listed, with a consolidation of WikiProjects Genetics + Molecular and Cell Biology + Computational Biology + Biophysics currently in discussion. Other ideas being aired include updating old participants lists, redesigning project pages to make them more user-friendly, and clearly identifying long- and short-term goals.
Editors FunkMonk and Jens Lallensack had a very fruitful month, collaborating to bring two dinosaur articles to GA and then nominating them both for FA. They graciously decided to answer some questions for the first ToL Editor Spotlight, giving insight to their successful collaborations, explaining why you should collaborate with them, and also sharing some tidbits about their lives off-Wikipedia.
1) Enwebb: How long have you two been collaborating on articles?
2) Enwebb: Why dinosaurs?
3) Enwebb: Why should other editors join you in writing articles related to paleontology? Are you looking to attract new editors, or draw in experienced editors from other areas of Wikipedia?
4) Enwebb: Between the two of you, you have over 300 GA reviews. FunkMonk, you have over 250 of those. What keeps you coming back to review more articles?
5) Enwebb: What are your editing preferences? Any scripts or gadgets you find invaluable?
6) Enwebb: What would surprise the ToL community to learn about your life off-wiki?
Get in touch with these editors regarding collaboration at WikiProject Dinosaurs!
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Hello. Over at the Teahouse we're having a bit of a 'spring clean' by removing old entries from the list of Hosts that new users see. As you don't appear to have been very active there for some time, your 'host profile' has been removed from the list. But please don't let that put you off contributing again in the future - either by signing back up as a Host to assist on a regular basis, or just dropping in whenever you fancy helping out - especially as it's great to have input from people with an interest in flora and fauna.
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for your recent support of tagging Australian biota items - appreciated !! JarrahTree 04:57, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
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Some subproject taskforce notes would be good for tracking - For instance, a takforce for each era in paloeontology ( Cenozoic, Mesozoic, Paleozoic, and older...might be worth discussing on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Palaeontology#Task_forces? Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 23:43, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
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Masked booby by
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Birds | 5.46
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Within the Tree of Life and its many subprojects, there is an abundance of stubs. Welcome to Wikipedia, what's new, right? However, based on all wikiprojects listed (just over two thousand), the Tree of Life project is worse off in average article quality than most. Based on the concept of relative WikiWork (the average number of "steps" needed to have a project consisting of all featured articles (FAs), where stub status → FA consists of six steps), only seven projects within the ToL have an average rating of "start class" or better. Many projects, particularly those involving invertebrates, hover at an average article quality slightly better than a stub. With relative WikiWorks of 5.98 each, WikiProject Lepidoptera and WikiProject Beetles have the highest relative WikiWork of any project. Given that invertebrates are incredibly speciose, it may not surprise you that many articles about them are lower quality. WikiProject Beetles, for example, has over 20 times more articles than WikiProject Cats. Wikipedia will always be incomplete, so we should take our relatively low WikiWork as motivation to write more articles that are also better in quality.
We're joined for this month's Editor Spotlight by NessieVL, a long-time contributor who lists themselves as a member of WikiProject Fungus, WikiProject Algae, and WikiProject Cephalopods.
1) Enwebb: How did you come to edit articles about organisms and taxonomic groups?
2) Enwebb: Many editors in the ToL are highly specialized on a group of taxa. A look at your recently created articles includes much diversity, though, with viruses, bacteria, algae, and cnidarians all represented—are there any commonalities for the articles you work on? Would you say you're particularly interested in certain groups?
3) Enwebb: I noticed that many of your recent edits utilize the script Rater, which aids in quickly reassessing the quality and importance of an article. Why is it important to update talk page assessments of articles? I also noticed that the quality rating you assign often aligns with ORES, a script that uses machine-learning to predict article quality. Coincidence?
4) Enwebb: What, if anything, can ToL and its subprojects do to better support collaboration and coordination among editors? How can we improve?
5) Enwebb: What would surprise the ToL community to learn about your life off-Wikipedia?
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The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Electric smoking system. Legobot ( talk) 04:28, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Hello, NessieVL. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " Hemilyn Escudero Tamayo".
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Lapablo ( talk) 22:46, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Hi NessieVL! Thanks for italicizing Myxoma virus for me in the myxomatosis article, I did not realize that needed to be done. And also for adding in issue numbers in the footnotes. I was told however by another editor that the reference should include the specific page the foregoing information was on, not the pages of the entire article, so I changed those back. See /info/en/?search=Help:Referencing_for_beginners, "If the repeatedly used reference is a book or a lengthy paper or article, it is very helpful to have separate page references for specific facts.". Best, Rabbit Vet ( talk) 18:13, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
List of felids by
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Letter-winged kite by
Casliber |
The WikiCup, an annual editing competition, is now in its fourth round. Casliber, consistent participant since 2010 and winner in 2016, is currently dominating Group A with 601 points. Largely responsible is the successful Featured Article nomination of Masked booby. The other remaining Tree of Life participant, Enwebb, is participating in her first ever WikiCup. In this round, she has a grand total of...5 points. But with the recent Featured Article nomination of Megabat, she stands to gain 600 points if successful. As it stands, though, it appears that at least one ToL editor is headed to the fifth and final round of 8 contestants, which begins September 1. Thus far, all participants in the WikiCup have generated 17 Featured Articles, 116 Good Articles, 16 Featured Lists, and 57 Featured Pictures. The Good Article Nominations backlog has been reduced as well, with 286 Good Article Reviews. |
For this month's editor spotlight we're joined by
Charlesjsharp, a longtime contributor to Wikimedia Commons with a plethora of featured pictures on English Wikipedia. 1) Starsandwhales: How long have you been editing Wikipedia, and how did you get interested? How did you begin your journey of photographing wildlife?
2) S&W: Over the years, you've taken photos of many different organisms from birds to insects to big cats; you have an
extensive list of favorite images. Which animals have been the most exciting for you to photograph?
3) S&W: Many articles under ToL have requests for people to add images that can go unanswered. What can the community do to improve the coverage of different organisms on Wikipedia, especially when it comes to images?
4) S&W: What advice would you give to people new to photographing wildlife?
5) S&W: What would the Tree of Life community be surprised to learn about your life off-wiki?
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Dear NessieVL, with this , you have added the following etymology; "The Linnean name derives from ornithos (Greek: ὄρνιθος) and doros (Greek: Δωρόν), meaning "bird" and "gift," respectively."
But ὄρνις is actually the nominative singular and δῶρον would be Romanized as dōron and not as doros. Could you please check your source. I can not find one in the article. Thanks in advance, with kind regards, Wimpus ( talk) 19:15, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
it is actually necessary to use a source that explains the full compoundis not always true. You have to know the biology of the taxonomic group, what features are used to distinguish species, and what components of names are commonly used. In plants, for example, we know perfectly well what -florus and -phyllus mean (and can use Stearn as a source for the component). In spiders, we know perfectly well what -spinosus means. In mammals, we know perfectly well what -derma means. Scientific dictionaries that explain components of names are fine for the meaning of such words (although, as you have pointed out, they are not always reliable as to the precise form of lexeme normally used as the headword). Peter coxhead ( talk) 05:53, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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There's now a Wikipedia:WikiProject Diptera. I don't know if it will get off the ground, but since you've been working on infrastructure for some other not-very active TOL subprojects, you might want to help get that diptera put together. Plantdrew ( talk) 22:37, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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Guest column by Thomas Shafee ( Evolution and evolvability), Editor in Chief of WikiJournal of Science
Firstly, WikiJSci can be a complementary system for FA review (getting external review, input, and validity). When an Wikipedia article is nominated (via WP:JAN), journal editors go out to non-Wikipedian academics and researchers who have published on the subject on the last five years and invite them to give feedback comments (e.g. Peripatric speciation and Baryonyx). The resulting changes can then be integrated back into the Wikipedia article.
Getting more editors involved in Wikipedia is always a high priority. WikiJSci can also be a way to encourage new people to contribute articles (especially on missing/stub/start topics). An example of an article that was written from scratch by a group of non-Wikipedians is Teladorsagia circumcincta. This not only resulted in a new Wikipedia page on an underdeveloped topic, but introduced the idea of Wikimedia contribution to a group of people who had previously never considered it.
The journal can be a way to get multimedia content reviewed or encourage contribution. The same approach could be easily adapted to sounds (e.g. frog mating calls) or videos (e.g. starfish feet motion). It also allows for tracking of those images in new articles via Altmetric ( this example has >200, which is bananas). There aren't any biology examples in WikiJSci yet, but the sister medical journal has published a few summary diagrams, photography, and image galleries. Examples include this gallery by Blausen Medical or the diagram of cell disassembly during apoptosis.
For those interested in other Wikimedia sister projects, there's also broad scope for interactions with the WikiJournals. Perhaps peer reviewed teaching resources could be useful to sit alongside sets of Wikipedia articles and be integrated into Wikiversity courses (like this or this)? Can sections of Wikidata & Wikispecies be peer reviewed? What are the potential avenues for integration with WikiCite, WikiFactMine, Scholia, etc.? Currently, WikiJSci is aiming to be very flexible and try out different formats so long as they can be externally peer reviewed. For more info, see the 2019-06-30 Signpost article and the current sister project proposal. |
1) Enwebb: You're very prolific with DYKs, with over 2,000 nominations credited (in fact, I'll highlight which DYK nominations this month were yours below). What made you become so involved in this part of Wikipedia? Why should Tree of Life editors nominate articles for DYK?
2) Enwebb: I noticed that your DYK nominations reflect a diverse array of flora and fauna, from trees, marine invertebrates, birds, fishes, and mammals. How do you decide what to work on?
3) Enwebb: Which of your Wikipedia accomplishments are you most proud of?
4) Enwebb: What motivates you to keep contributing? What's your 10,000 ft view (pardon the non-SI) of the community and Tree of Life?
6) Enwebb: How did you first become interested in natural history?
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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Durio graveolens you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dunkleosteus77 -- Dunkleosteus77 ( talk) 03:41, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello, NessieVL! Here is the September 2019 issue of TheWikiWizard.
We Hope you like this month's issue! If you'd like to discuss this issue, please go to this issue's talk page. Happy Reading! Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 21:44, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
Maybe it's me, but I find the taxobox at, e.g., Alphatetraviridae, odd. What I would expect to see is:
(unranked): | Virus |
Realm: | Riboviria |
Phylum: | incertae sedis |
Class: | incertae sedis |
Order: | incertae sedis |
Family: | Alphatetraviridae |
similar to, say, Adenoviridae. It's a bit fiddly to set this up, but possible. What do you think? Peter coxhead ( talk) 14:55, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
(unranked): | Virus |
Realm: | Riboviria |
Family: | Alphatetraviridae |
(unranked): | Virus |
Realm: | Riboviria |
Order: | incertae sedis |
Family: | Alphatetraviridae |
(unranked): | Virus |
Realm: | Riboviria |
Phylum: | incertae sedis |
Family: | Alphatetraviridae |
Yes, you're right, I should have written "highest major rank" or perhaps "highest Linnaean rank". A reasonably knowledgeable reader could expect there to be an order, class or phylum, but not realm. I'm personally happy just to leave realm out. Peter coxhead ( talk) 17:44, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
The article Durio graveolens you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Durio graveolens for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dunkleosteus77 -- Dunkleosteus77 ( talk) 15:41, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
In some of your conversion to automatic taxoboxes, you're adding a bunch of blank parameters that may not be appropriate. |trend=
is not supported in taxoboxes, whether manual or automatic. I'm not sure where you're copying the parameters from but trend shouldn't be in any form of taxobox parameter documentation. Parameters for conservation status are very rarely appropriate in articles using {{
Automatic taxobox}} (CITES is the only system that does status for ranks above species), so there isn't any point in adding blank parameters for status. It's fairly uncommon for species to have any subdivisions; routinely adding blank |subdivision=
and |subdivision_ranks=
to articles using {{
Speciesbox}} seems pointless.
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|trend=
in there. I haven't really lookmed critically at my copypasta for a bit, so I'll update it for the future. --
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23:22, 23 September 2019 (UTC)Hi, you've signed up to participate in the Spooky Species contest. The first official day of the contest is today, so you can start claiming points for improving the designated articles (also feel free to add articles to the table). The contest runs through Oct 31! Thanks for signing up! Enwebb ( talk) 17:08, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
There is no need to add |class=Template
to a WikiProject banner that is used on a Template talk: page, just as there is no need to add |class=category
to a WikiProject banner that is used on a Category talk: page. With very few exceptions (and I can't think of any right now), a WikiProject banner that is used outside of the Talk: namespace of articles will automatically detect the class. This code is built into {{
class mask}}
, and has been there since
MSGJ (
talk ·
contribs) created it back in 2009. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
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07:21, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
|class=NA
as that interferes with any automatic assessment, and there are plenty of those. --
Nessie (
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17:28, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
|QUALITY_SCALE=
parameter altered in a manner that could move certain pages from NA-Class to Template-Class (or similar), and the presence of |class=NA
would prevent automatic reclassification. But to return to the original point, might I take your question of 13:24, 24 September 2019 (UTC) and turn it around: what good does it do to add |class=Template
? How does this impact anything positively? --
Redrose64 🌹 (
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22:47, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
redir
and Redirect
(also red
), case-insensitive, are treated exactly the same by {{
class mask}}
, and always have been. This is apart from the fact that for the last four years (give or take a few days) redirects have also been
autodetected when there is no |class=
set. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
19:48, 25 September 2019 (UTC)Hi Nessie. There's a duplicate TF_3_MAIN_CAT in Template:WikiProject Australia. Davemck ( talk) 17:17, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
There's a duplicate NOTE_1_TEXT in Template:WikiProject Insects. Davemck ( talk) 21:20, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Category:Brisbane articles by importance requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 02:37, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
always seemed to be a task force with no assessment possible - in Perth westernorstrylia we have the situation where a smart alec reduced perth to a task force so when somehting is assessed as perth - the west oz stuff is the assessment part - very messy - trust the brisbane stuff sorts out... JarrahTree 04:23, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
what a very weird world we live in JarrahTree 04:27, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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Hello,
As Data Secretary of the International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses (ICTV), I want to thank you for your efforts updating virus records in Wikipedia. But I want to highlight an error that is common in the literature, and has now crept into many Wikipedia virus records. Virus names are distinct from species names. (See https://talk.ictvonline.org/information/w/faq/386/how-to-write-virus-and-species-names.) The ICTV does not ever get involved in the naming of viruses, nor does it change the name of viruses. The ICTV only deals with the creation and naming of virus taxa. Therefore, as an example, the name of the page, "Human orthopneumovirus" is incorrect since the page describes the properties of the virus, human respiratory syncytial virus, and is not strictly a page about the species, Human orthopneumovirus. This is true of many virus pages referring to viruses belonging to the families Pneumoviridae and Paramyxoviridae. The taxon (and its name) represents a human idea, a logical construct referring to a category used for the classification of viruses. The virus is the physical entity that exists, has various properties, and causes disease.
Our recommendation would be to follow the general outline used by most research papers publishing articles about viruses in scientific journals. The taxonomic designation of the virus under study is described near the beginning of the introduction section of the paper, and provides the formal taxonomic name under which the virus is classified. The rest of the paper describes the research studying the properties of the virus, and uses the name of the virus that is in common use.
Using these suggestions, the Wikipedia page (and other similar pages) would begin "Human respiratory syncytial virus (HRSV), a member of the species Human orthopneumovirus, is a syncytial virus that causes respiratory tract infections. It is a major cause of lower respiratory tract infections and hospital visits during infancy and childhood." Then the complete taxonomic classification could be described under the "Taxonomy" section of the article (though this seems a bit redundant given the virus classification table to the upper right of the page).
Thank-you for providing us (the ICTV) with the opportunity to clarify the usage of virus taxonomic names and how they should be distinguished from virus names.
Best regards,
Elliot
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Elliot J. Lefkowitz, Ph.D. | Professor, Department of Microbiology
Data Secretary | International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses
University of Alabama at Birmingham (UAB)
Email: elliotl@uab.edu
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Dendrochytridium. Legobot ( talk) 04:26, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Howdy, just noticed you did a refill run on (parts of?) that article [1]. Looking at the results, I don't believe that was a good idea. The list is unusual in that almost all the "references" are external links - maybe that is something that should be changed, although it'd be one hell of a job with nearly 900 instances... but filling these in with text creates entries that are really hard to read. Just check the first few screens now - would you consider that an improved reading experience? It merely seems to have become harder to parse to me. I'd be tempted to undo that. Thoughts? -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 16:35, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
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If you wanna do some WikiProject tagging of new articles, there's been a flood of thrips at User:AlexNewArtBot/ArthropodsSearchResult. I'm overwhelmed. Plantdrew ( talk) 21:30, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=User_talk:Plantdrew#we%20all%20have%20our%20moments I am stumped by these small dark corners - where or what the appropriate project might release them of their red tag for talk page... JarrahTree 01:08, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
On 28 October 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Durio graveolens, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that despite a name meaning "strong-smelling durian", Durio graveolens has been described as odorless? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Durio graveolens. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, Durio graveolens), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru ( talk) 01:31, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi NessieVL. Per your edit here, it seems like the community's feelings on what constitutes an "orphan" have shifted over the years. Rich Farmbrough sums it up nicely in the intro to this discussion from 2017. At some point, Wikipedia:Orphan was changed to recommend removing the template if there just 1+ links to a page (rather than the more classical 3). I believe that now reflects common practice amongst the folks who regularly use that tag (both on the page patrolling side, and the backlog side). Folks' philosophical take on the purpose of the Orphan template may vary, but I feel that most ToL pages on little-studied species (and their parent taxa) are unlikely to be linked from any page besides their parent/child taxa any time soon. So with that in mind, I use the orphan tag to point me to pages where the parent taxa don't have pages and/or the taxoboxes haven't been updated to reflect current nomenclature. So when I see everything looks fine (in this particular case, 18 years after its original description, Babesia sp. 'North Carolina dog' remains unnamed and authors are still referring to it as "a large piroplasm found in North Carolina dogs"), I just remove the tag. Sorry this has become long-winded. But thought an explanation might be in order. Hope all is well! Happy editing! Ajpolino ( talk) 02:49, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Longan witches broom-associated virus at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:14, 1 November 2019 (UTC)