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It's for my own use & reference -- Ludvikus 12:06, 29 September 2007 (UTC)):
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Hi! I've fixed navigation bar. If you'll need any help with the template you can ask me and I'll see what I can do. And thanks for the barnstar. M0RD00R 18:11, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Something like that? I'm not sure it would look nice with the titles though M0RD00R 18:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I guess the difference is that (<br />) is in XHTML and (<br>) is in HTML. I really hope that explains something to you, because it does not say a lot to me :), because I'm absolute n00b in any of those languages myself. M0RD00R 17:48, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I've archived everything except the material above. Hope this is what you expected. If not, let me know and I will undo it. Banno 21:38, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
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Is this what it purports to be? -- Ludvikus 23:01, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Talk page apparently got lost during the moves. Currently it is here [2]. Now administrator needs to delete current talk page to make a room for a move. M0RD00R 14:44, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
-- SineBot 23:34, 29 September 2007 (UTC) Inadvertent error, slip of the fingers. Ludvikus 02:17, 30 September 2007 (UTC) -->
Please write a separate article about the pamphlet The Jewish Bolshevism and never again do such page moves. `' Míkka 22:22, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello. I noticed that you added this report to WP:AN/3RR. Now, I understand why you placed that there, but that isn't quite the proper page. I'm actually not sure exactly where to put it, but my best guess would be on WP:AN/I, the Administrator's noticeboard for Incidents in general. Regards, You Can ' t See Me! 05:24, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Amazing article, thanks! Someone (non-identified dipper-in) has removed your sentence about Lacey's comment. If instead of saying 'it is probably true that...' you simply wrote 'Lacey states...' then no-one could argue with the statement or its suitability for WP. However I can't see at a glance who Lacey is, and that statement would want a footnote. All the best, Sedgefoot 06:49, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
CULTURAL DESK BOOKS OF THE TIMES By WALTER GOODMAN FORD: The Men and the Machine. By Robert Lacey. Illustrated. 778 pages. Little, Brown. $24.95. FORD is a workmanlike assemblage by an English writer of a great American family saga. Robert Lacey carries us briskly through almost a century of corporate fortunes (Model A, Model T, Mustang) and misfortunes (Edsel, Pinto). He makes admirably clear the technical and marketing considerations that have gone into each new or revised model and provides plenty of opportunity along the way to view the ... July 9, 1986
That is all. -- jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 15:31, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I have only started. Maybe I can put some more time in tomorrow. Thanks for the recognition. -- Kevin Murray 00:27, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I have this feeling that you see the term Bolsheviks as being pejorative. Is that the case ? I am a secular Jew and have no more problem with being referred to as a Bolshevik or a communist even though that is not how I would describe myself. Do you have the same problem with the moniker Jewish philosophers or Jewish celebrities. ? Danny Weintraub : Albion moonlight 07:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
No, that is a new one on me. But I intend to do a bit of wiki and google research on it. I want to know how widespread that view is. I do know that a lot of Jews hate anything remotely similar to Marxism, especially Stalinism . Albion moonlight 23:59, 2 October 2007 (UTC) Danny Weintraub. : Albion moonlight 06:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes I really am Jewish but your implication seems to be that you believe your assertions about Jewish Bolshevism being is common knowledge. I do not believe that it is common knowledge. If you believe that it is perhaps you should create a request for comment on the articles talk page. I think that once you realize that it isn't common knowledge even amongst Jews you may change your mind and realize that you may be pushing a Pov.
If you referred to the other editors as being antisemitic you are guilty of making a personal attack on other Wikipedians and should apologize. If you did not make such an accusation then you may have a legitimate complaint. If you moved an article without consensus then you broke a rule. I have done nothing to deserve your ire. I hope you manage to work things out with Jpgordan. : Danny Weintraub : Albion moonlight 15:22, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
The thing is, an internet troll on wikipedia is just an internet troll on wikipedia. We don't need a Troll (Wikipedia) article. The header text about wikipedia trolls should be more than sufficient. Apologies if I came across as impolite- you may find that a bit of politeness/smarminess can come in handy to get around stubborn people when editors who are particularly idealistic about wikipedia get dragged in. Not that I've actually learnt that lesson by now. Nimmo 11:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm trying to sort them out of the generic Category:Book stubs category, and since they were used as political propaganda I sorted them to Category:Political book stubs. Any suggestions as to where they should go? History books? Thanks - Her Pegship (tis herself) 19:03, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Category:Visual art book stubs
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22:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
The following is for my reference. -- Ludvikus 01:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC) ---
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I fear you are getting categories and templates mixed up. Category:Controversial literature should be for any article about a controversial book whether the article be a stub or not. Template:Controversial literature-stub could be created to mark stub articles and to place them into Category:Controversial literature. An article entitled Categories:Controversial literature was a meaningless namespace violation. In case you wanted its text, I have buried it in the history of your sandbox. -- RHaworth 02:25, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Notable or notorious antisemites, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Notable or notorious antisemites satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also " What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Notable or notorious antisemites and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Notable or notorious antisemites during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. — iridescent (talk to me!) 13:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
You might want to run it past User:BrownHairedGirl - in my experience, she's generally the best judge of whether a category or list is likely to be viable or be deleted, and what changes if any need to be made. As Category:Antisemites has already been deleted, you may get opposition in recreating it. (Incidentally, while I currently live in London, I'm not a "fine British chap" but an expat New York Jew.) — iridescent (talk to me!) 16:01, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Here's the recent Category creation:
Category:Notable or notorious antisemites From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Listed here are individuals who played some notable role, or a notorious one, in history, literature, or publication. Please note that mere incident(s) involving some apparent antisemitic conduct or speach is insufficient to qualify the inclusion of a person on this list. Please be very careful in your selections. Remember also that this is not a place to make your own personal judgments. Neither should it be a place or space to libel or slander a living person with whose views you strongly disagree. Nor is it a place to list someone who exercised poor judgment in the choice of words on a particular occasion. Pages in category "Notable or notorious antisemites" There are 10 pages in this section of this category. A Arthur Cherep-Spiridovich B Boris Brasol F Henry Ford G G. Butmi H Reinhard Heydrich Heinrich Himmler Adolf Hitler L L. Fry P Pavel Krushevan W Nesta Helen Webster Retrieved from " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Notable_or_notorious_antisemites" Category: Antisemitism
Yours truly, -- Ludvikus 16:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Maybe renaming to Ideologists of antisemitism should be considered so that the story of deleted category "Antisemitic people" will not repeat again? Creating list article also is a reasonable option I think M0RD00R 16:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
The deletion of your new category is already being discussed. Don't remove the deletion notice from the category itself - the notice does not need to be signed, and removing it won't stop the discussion. Computer not responding 01:39, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
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Check again. I only touched up the UN (WW II) image (it was damaged). I think it's pre-1923. But somebody else found it before me. So do your research further please. -- Ludvikus 11:48, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
As I said, the category should be deleted or renamed. Category:Antisemites would be useful, but which we should have no articles on unnotable antisemties - thus there is no need for 'notable (or notorious) antisemites' category. PS. We have Category:Murderers - but not Category:Notable or notorious murderers. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 15:40, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Removal of nominations for deletion is considered vandalism. Please don't do that again. And nominations for deletion are never signed on the article page. If you had gone to the CfD page, you would have seen my signature, and that my nomination was not capricious. Corvus cornix 17:18, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Since both pages have a history, other than being a redirect of each other, the move can only be done by an administrator. The naming of the template is not a huge issue, though, as it's not usually user visible, and thus I think, for the sake of simplicity, having the name without quotes, is probably the better way to go. Regards, -- Jeff3000 14:52, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
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Template:"The Protocols" Needs fixing. I did a Cut & Paste (sorry) & lost the History. Essentially it was all a matter of Quotes. Please restore the lost "History" --
Ludvikus
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Anthony Appleyard 09:31, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Check out: Template:"The Protocols (notice that there's only an opening quote.). Thanks. -- Ludvikus 09:44, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Why don't you put your vote in support of this Category? Vote Keep so it won't get deleted. Thanks, -- Ludvikus 00:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Had no idea that existed. If so, I stand corrected. Thank you. -- Ludvikus 00:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I've checked the Rule. It seems that you're mistaken in its application to me. It is not an Absolute rule. In fact, it's very clear that there are circumstances in which canvassing is proper, and good for Wikipedia. Please reconsider you're observation. -- Ludvikus 01:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
'''[[Canvassing]]''' is sending messages to multiple Wikipedians with the intent to influence a community discussion. <ref>Any kind of solicitation may meet this definition, including, for example, a custom signature to automatically append some promotional message to every signed post.</ref> Under certain conditions it is acceptable to notify other editors of ongoing discussions, but messages that are written to influence the outcome rather than to improve the quality of a discussion compromise the consensus building process and are generally considered disruptive. This guideline explains how to notify editors without engaging in disruptive canvassing. <ref>On at least one occasion, a provocative attempt to stack an ongoing poll by cross-posting has contributed towards an Arbitration Committee ruling of disruptive behavior that resulted in probation and eventual banning by the community. An arbitrator clarified the position: "Briefly, I think a reasonable amount of communication about issues is fine. Aggressive propaganda campaigns are not. The difference lies in the disruption involved. If what is happening is getting everyone upset then it is a problem. Often the dividing line is crossed when you are contacting a number of people who do not ordinarily edit the disputed article." See [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al#StrangerInParadise is disruptive]].</ref>
Therefore, Ludvikus did not break the rule in its literal sense, but, as a general rule of "Wikiquette" telling a user to vote a certain was in a discussion is frowned upon. To explain further, the message was only placed on one user's talk page, so it is not canvassing (at least described word-for-word in the canvassing policy), but it is something that is generally looked upon with differing degrees of dislike. Had Ludvikus placed the message on multiple users' talk pages, then it would be a clear violation. As it stands, however, while Ludvikus did not violate the policy, I suggest that they refrain from posting messages like that on talk pages. Hope that's clear enough, and happy editing, ( ar ky ) 02:05, 7 October 2007 (UTC)A hard and fast rule does not exist with regard to selectively notifying on their talk pages certain editors who have or are thought to have a predetermined point of view, in order to influence a vote. However, the greater the number of editors contacted, the more often this behavior is engaged in, and the greater the resulting disruption, the more likely it is that this behavior will result in warnings and/or sanctions. Some Wikipedians have suggested that informing editors on all "sides" of a debate (e.g., everyone who voted in a previous AfD on a given subject) may be acceptable.
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Unfortunately, I don't know Russian; I know Polish. You may want to ask, for example, User:Irpen, for help.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 16:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi! Would you be interested in DYK debate [9] on Ghetto benches. Apparently there are some users doubting racial nature of this discriminatory act. What's your opinion? Cheers. M0RD00R 17:47, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I mean these. -- Irpen 19:31, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Boldness is good when editing but by far less in moving. And even when editing Be bold but don't be reckless. Also, please be polite and concentrate on building a good encyclopedia overall, not trying to find every chance to insert issues closest to your heart left and right. Antisemitism is a horrible phenomenon, it needs to be covered but it needs to be covered properly. If you overpush, you undermine the credibility of this coverage in the eyes of the readers. -- Irpen 19:46, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Although I disagree with current title, personally I am a fan of WP:UE I'm sure we'll have plenty of time to discuss it later. I don't mind even RfM. But there are some more serious issues to discuss now in and around this article such as a denial of racial nature of this act, attempts to portray it as a clash between Polish and Jewish extremist organizations (sic!), there all parts are equally to blame and so on. Of cause it is not easy not to loose temper in the face of such a blatant distortions of historical facts, but simply there is no other way than to stay calm and concentrated on important things. Let's have a quality time discussing what really matters. Cheers. M0RD00R 20:38, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Quite to the contrary. Term Ghetto benches is used in English. Just click on this link [10]. How about continuing this discussion on the article talk page. Cheers. M0RD00R 20:41, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Nur für Deutsche was not an ethnic slur. Neither is getto ławkowe.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 20:49, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Personally I would go with "bench ghetto", but the fact is that in academic sources mostly term "ghetto benches" is used. The usage of "ghetto benches" outnumbers "bench ghetto" by 10:1 ratio according to google books. M0RD00R 21:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
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You seem to think that a message was left here that wasmeant for me. And you seem to have posted it on my page. I have no idea what your talking about - and I wish you had not done that. You should contact the person who sent it and tell them that they have made a mistake. -- Ludvikus 02:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Subcategories are actually categories in syntax, just called 'sub'. So it would be Category:Antisemites.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 04:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
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I disagree with Mikka here. Copyright for the books is held by the publisher not the author like for, say, painting and the clock starts ticking from the date of publication, not from the date of author's death. That said, Ludvikus, unless you change your demeanor, you will get blocked. -- Irpen 06:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Please don't write the same or similar text in two different articles.This is against wikipedia rules. Please confine The Jewish Bolshevism to the pamphlet and Jewish Bolshevism to generan discussion of the term. `' Míkka 00:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
As for quoting :Lacqueur, the second quote is sufficient to desribe the whole point. `' Míkka 00:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, see WP:AfD#How_to_list_pages_for_deletion if you want to nominate an article for deletion.
I have fixed your nomination, please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chinese in Russian Revolution. Carlosguitar 08:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Sultan Catto, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sultan Catto. Thank you. -- h2g2bob ( talk) 17:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
You wrote:
The fact that they are hoaxes does not change the fact that they were written as a political and religious attack against the Jews, thus making either of these classifications correct. Since we do not have a "hoax book stub", "plagiarism book stub" or "forgery book stub", I sorted it according to what we do have.
You wrote:
I did not turn the articles into anything. They are still in the controversial literature category, which is a parent category for Category:Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which contains the articles (as well as the myriad other redundant categories the articles occupied). Fortunately, I don't care what happens to the categorization of the articles, as long as users can find them efficiently, which is what categorizing is for. I think that if it is important to you, you should revert the edits, rather than lecturing me.
You wrote:
As a scholar myself, I am in my right mind, and I resent the implication that no one but you really knows what the Protocols are about, or how to edit Wikipedia articles. If you cannot abide any changes to articles you have edited, then you are in the wrong place and should start your own website. Regards, Her Pegship (tis herself) 04:00, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Please state the articles and the modifications to which you refer. I am unable to find the changes that you are talking about. 07:49, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, there was vandalism before your contribution ( [13]), which you did not revert. I did notice your contributions ( [14], [15]) when I was reverting the vandalism to the article and I did paste in the sentence you added ( [16]). I believe the anon who edited the article after you has fixed everything ( [17]).
Best, Akriasas 22:27, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Ah, I see that I put the sentence in the wrong position (and the anon did as well). I'll fix this presently. Akriasas 22:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the interest. As I don't know anything about the subject, I'll abstain - my vote in favor of Poland would be not very neutral here, I am afraid :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 04:44, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
"I come from Ukraine"?
or
"I come from the Ukraine"?
I was only asking the question! -- Ludvikus 07:05, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I would counter by saying that the pronounciation of the word itself sounds enough like a plural word to warrent the article. Ostap 07:40, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
First, my apologies for not attending to The Morning Post: I have been travelling. In any case, the issue seems to have settled. The same approach might be advisable in the present case - wait and see, or take it to talk. Banno 08:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the invitation, as soon as I have more time Iwill be glad to help out. Greetings and respect. Tymek 17:54, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
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I think you may be interested in this: [21].-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 05:27, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
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I'm sorry I employed the word "true" in my mistaken edit of the article in question. "Truth" is not the issue in plagiarism and I regret it if I seemed to imply as much.
As a matter of fact, the history of anti-Semitism is not an obsession with me (as it clearly is with so many people) and I had not heard of either the 1903 Znamya edition of the Protocols or of Maurice Joly's 19th Century French political satire. My sole reading in the field of what I suppose we should begin calling "Protocols of the Elders of Zion Studies" was the article I had edited, which makes no mention of these. I got the impression from reading it that this Russian fakir was the original source of the slander.
I would agree with you that I am at fault for not having done wider reading in this area and having much-too-naively blundered in, like a barefoot child into a minefield. Writtenright 07:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)Writtenright
I believe I left out the Japanese because the Japanese, at that time, were not traditionally allies of the Russians, and would be unlikely to be working for the Russian Red Army. There was a war called the Russo-Japanese War which had taken place just a few years earlier--didn't you know that? Also, I don't believe the Japanese, who had modernized themselves in the 19th century, retained such long mustaches such as are typically used in caricatures of Chinese (or, at least, were used as such in the silent films of the first decades of the 20th century). Badagnani 07:16, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Another editor, named Temur, said, "On the picture there are some men who look like Chinese but they can be anything from Buryats, Mongols, Kalmyks, Tuvanians, Altai-men, Kyrgizs, Kazakhs, Chukchas, or Crimean Tatars." However, if it is true that the White Russians had as a primary part of their propaganda the (racist) claim that Russia would be taken over by Chinese, Jews, etc., then they probably are Chinese. The skullcaps and long mustaches seem more typically Chinese to me than indicative of those other Central Asian ethnic groups. In my opinion, the poster is historically important, and interesting in this context. Badagnani 07:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
The fact that the editor who "controls" the Russian-language sources does not answer simple questions about them makes me doubt the information contained in the article. I've asked him several times now to address these questions and not insult other editors, but he seems only to be interested in doing the latter. If there were Chinese involved in the Russian Revolution, we should accurately document this, using the best sources available. But "we" doesn't exist when the editor who has provided the sources refuses to answer questions about them. Badagnani 23:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
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An article that you have been involved in editing, The Jewish Bolshevism, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Jewish Bolshevism. Thank you. IZAK 10:18, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello. If you have new articles to add for deletion, do so in their own submission. Changing an existing AfD, especially with edits that may be construed as WP:POINT issues, is not a good idea. Please stop. Thank you. -- Avi 15:15, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
... and please do not move the article under discussion; moving it only only causes confusion at AFD. I have reverted your move. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 16:02, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
PS Please please please do read WP:SPIDER. Really. It's very helpful here. --16:57, 17 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by BrownHairedGirl ( talk • contribs)
Dear ludvikus, please read WP:NPA. Accusing other editors of antisemitism is offensive. Violations of NPA can lead to a block. Since it would be a shame to lose a knowledgeable editor such as you, please, tone down you language and comment. Remember: discuss content, not editors. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 16:40, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Let's wait and see what are their replies.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 21:04, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Hmm Ludvik, you used words like "SHIT" and "fork you" ("stupid Poles" speaks for itself) and then you denied using them and you claim that I made false accusations. When I point out exactly what you said and explain to you what you said you complain that my explanation is too explicit. Now how ridiculous is that? IZAK 13:33, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia practice for WP:Articles for deletion discusions is for the nominator's reasons to be entered as part of the nomination, followed by discussion. You are welcome to join the discussion and provide any comments you like. However, your comments cannot be put in the same place as the nominator's. Please respect this. Best, -- Shirahadasha 17:26, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello, is there a reason for putting the same photos many times on your User page? It makes the page hard to read.-- Matthead discuß! O 04:55, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
-- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 13:23, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Ludvikus ( talk · contribs): This may be a good time for you to read up on Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a battleground:
Wikipedia is not a place to hold grudges, import personal conflicts, or nurture hatred or fear. Making personal battles out of Wikipedia discussions goes directly against our policies and goals.
Every user is expected to interact with others civilly, calmly, and in a spirit of cooperation. Do not insult, harass, or intimidate those with whom you have a disagreement. Rather, approach the matter intelligently and engage in polite discussion. If a user acts uncivilly, uncalmly, uncooperatively, insultingly, harassingly, or intimidatingly toward you, this does not give you an excuse to do the same in retaliation. Either respond solely to the factual points brought forward and ignore its objectionable flavoring, or ignore the relevant message entirely. You could also remind the user in question of Wikipedia's policy of no personal attacks in such a situation. Wikipedia is not an anti- leech community. Users should not criticize others on not devoting time to edit.
When a conflict continues to bother you or others, adhere to the procedures of dispute resolution. There are always users willing to mediate and arbitrate disputes between others.
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Thank you for your attention! IZAK 13:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Ludvik: Get this straight, it was BrownHairedGirl ( talk · contribs) who blocked you. I am not an admin. Only Wikipedia:Administrators have the discretion and power to do so. I do not wish to inflame the situation for the next 24 hours. Thank you, IZAK 14:20, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Look at this. At the earliest, I'm second in the sequence, with a large Block. But now I'm put at the bottom by one, or both of you, and am being Blocked for a day as well. How do you explain and justify that? [26] [27] [28]
Look at this. At the earliest, I'm second in the sequence, with a large Block. But now I'm put at the bottom by one, or both of you, and am being Blocked for a day as well. How do you explain and justify that? [29] [30] [31]
Look at this. At the earliest, I'm second in the sequence, with a large Block. But now I'm put at the bottom by one, or both of you, and am being Blocked for a day as well. How do you explain and justify that? [32] [33] [34]
Look at this. At the earliest, I'm second in the sequence, with a large Block. But now I'm put at the bottom by one, or both of you, and am being Blocked for a day as well. How do you explain and justify that? [35] [36] [37]
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* I am allegedly being Blocked for that, and my comment has been moved to the bottom of the sequence. * In fact, to the best of my knowledge, I was the second editor, right after the deletion nominator, who made a comment. * I therefore I ask that my Block be rescinded on the ground of error by the blocking administrator. * I further request that my comment be placed back in sequence in its proper original position, which immediately after the deletion nomination proposal.
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Decline. It was requested you not move your content out of order, and you did. You claim to be second, you were 5th. You even admit that below this statement. Yet, you continually added your statement out of place. Please also cease your obsession with horizontal lines. These are to be used only sparingly in Wikipedia talk pages and your use is inappropriate. — Metros 00:55, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
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Dear User:Metros, or anyone else?
It seems I am still not understood (and on that I see it's probably my fault - my own lack of clarity)
1. I initially had the Good Faith belief that I could place my comment immediately after the nominator. 2. 3. I was corrected in my error by Administrator User:BrownHairedGirl (a.k.a. BHG). 4. So my place in the sequence (I learned) is Number Five (5th place). 5. However, thereafter, BHG placed me at the Bottom of the sequence (at the time), making me Number Seventeen (17th place). 6. It is being out of sequence for which I'm Blocked - but that's because BHG is under the mistaken belief
that I belong in the current 17th place, rather than the 5th place in the sequence.
7. Accordingly, I am being Blocked because I did not accept the 17th place. 8. But the 17th place is out of sequence in which I've been place by BHG. 9. Therefore, if anyone should be Blocked for my being out of sequence, it should be BHG who placed me there out of sequence. 10. I should be placed in the proper sequence - which is Nnumber Five - and not Number Seventeen
were I currently remain (out of sequence).
11. I hope I've succeeded in clarifying the matter. 12. As I'm still blocked, I hope someone will excercise the Bold Wikipedia initiative and place me back as Number Five.
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You were blocked for disrupting the AfD; not simply for putting your comments out of sequence. You do not seem to understand this, nor do you appear to care that your behavior was disruptive. — Haemo 04:42, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
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Sorry to see you having some trouble, Ludvicus. Given what has gone before, may I suggest that you take a deep breath and really look at what the several admins here are saying to you, especially User talk:BrownHairedGirl, who has been extraordinarily helpful in her comments. Given that you have recently returned from an extended block, it is unlikely that further disruption will be tolerated, and quite likely that any further blocks would be permanent. Allow the process at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Protocols of Zion (imprints) to proceed, and go with the consensus that arises. Taking the time to learn about how Wikipedia works will make you a far more effective editor. Banno 07:19, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
PS: Banno, since your not only an Administrator, but a Philosopher, and I think I know your Wikipedia Encyclopedic position well enough to conclude that you probably think that Marxism is not a Philosophy, but something like a school of social thought. Nevertheless, you cannot deny that the term Marxist philosophy exists, even here at Wikipedia. So how come Class interests is in Red? Banno, do you think it's possible that the threat of Blocking me forever might possibly be due to the fact that I'm not properly representing those class interests? Now you may think that the question is irrelevant. So let me explain. I'm asking you now to give yourself a break, and think hard how you can improve Wikipedia so that productive, knowledgable, and well informed editors are not wrongfully Blocked or Banned forever because some well-intentioned Administrator believes another editor (me) should go to the Bottom (#17) of the list in sequence instead of the Top (#5).
Yours truly, -- Ludvikus 14:06, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Quoting BHG:
Ludvikus, move on means move on. Just let it go. I do not intend to take any further action against either you or IZAK over what has happened already with regard to that AfD, and I will object if any other admin does. You were blocked for the disruption, and that issue is done. I do not intend to do any further cleanup; there doesn't seem to me to be anything sufficiently outrageous to justify removing it. I don't see personal attacks against you by IZAK which warrant any further action (sucha s a block or further warnings), but as I said above, if you want to pursue a complaint or to ask for comments to be deleted, you can raise a complaint at WP:ANI. I have said before that I think that will only serve to prolong the dispute, and that I think it would be a bad idea, but you are always free to make a complaint if you want to. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 17:36, 19 October 2007 (UTC) Hard to see the forest because of the trees. *You say: I do not intend to take any further action against either [of] you . . . over what has happened already with regard to that AfD, and I will object if any other admin does. That's what I needed to know. Thank you. Yours truly, -- Ludvikus 21:54, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Quote from User:BrownHairedGirl's Talk page completed. Yours truly, -- Ludvikus 22:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
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Need you help again. I'm affraid I may have messed up somewhat regarding my deletion proposal for the above.
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Ludvikus, we are all here to create good articles. Given the way in which the Wikipedia functions, an essential skill for editors is the ability to reach a consensus. This involves being able to accept opinions that differ from our own, to compromise, to accept that one's work will be changed and even deleted, and perhaps most importantly in your case, to mollify rather than aggravate those with whom one disagrees. I've been watching your edits since you first commenced working here, and it is my belief that this is the area with which you have the most difficulty. Your posts appear to be aimed more at accentuating rather than reducing disagreement. Doubtless this is not intentional, and shows a certain naivety about on-line etiquette rather than deliberate trolling. The question then is whether you are able to improve your ability to "get on" with other editors, or whether you are going to persist in helping to create deadlocked situations that require pages to be locked.
I was closely involved with the edits on the philosophy pages that resulted in your six-month block. You caused considerable disruption to several articles, effectively preventing work on them. The question in my mind is, was I correct to give you another opportunity to edit the Wikipedia, or should I have given you a permanent block? For this reason, I've been occasionally watching your edits, and helping where I can.
For the first few weeks after your return, you were apparently able to edit quite successfully. That is, you added content that was for the most part accepted by the community, you refrained from reverting or deleting other's edits, and your talk-space posts were properly formatted and sensible. In the last couple of weeks you seem to be returning to the behaviour that earned you a ban.
That your editing has attracted the attention of two or three other admins is very worrying. Although I would like to see you editing on the Wikipedia, I am not prepared to watch another time-consuming escalation of your disruption to the point where another administrator blocks you. If your edits cause further unreasonable disruption, I will block you. While it is possible, I doubt that any other admin who is properly aquainted with your edit history will see fit to unblock you. In effect, you will be banned from the Wikipedia.
I want to assure you that I do not wish this to happen. I would much rather see you edit in a more relaxed and less aggravating fashion, taking the occasional break in order to clear the air, allowing others to make changes, avoiding incivility and edit waring.
Take a deep breath and think carefully; don't just shoot off a reply. What you do in the next day or two will decide whether you remain on the Wikipedia or not. Take a break, perhaps. Allow things to cool down. I doubt that you will get a third chance at being a successful editor. Make the most of this one. Banno 03:23, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Through their unfortunate experience, African Americans have contributed to the civilizations of the world an understanding of how Racism works and how we may stamp it out. Their culture, perhaps more than any other people on earth, made us in the United States acutely sensitive to how language works to continue human bigotry. Changing how a people are to be called is an important way of ridding ourselves of bigorty. Even " Afro-American" is now considered a Pejorative expression for the people. Why on earth should it be different with " Jewish Bolshevism"? It is merely a Pejorative expression. Nothing more. It follows that as Wikipedians that we have no business putting in the statistics about how many Jews were this or that. What difference does it make? " Negroes" were deemed " inferior" by Racist Americans until the Civil Rights Movement changed that fundamentally. Would you include in the WP article " Negro" a discussion of IQ's? Certainly not. Neither should there be any similar statistics in " Jewish Bolshevism." Yours truly, -- Ludvikus 23:33, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
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Okay. People have been telling you multiple times that you are under last warnings and only this far away from another long block. By continuing your trolling on WP:ANI, and finally by creating the Mikhail Khostov article, you did it. You were evidently creating this stub, without any assertion of notability, precisely in order to underline the alleged non-notability of the subject, in order to disparage the use of references to his work in a dispute at Talk:Chinese in the Russian Revolution and in the Russian Civil War. This is the definition of WP:POINT disruption. I'm blocking you for two months; that's mild compared with what others have warned you about. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:20, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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There is no adequate book on the Russian Civil War. The stub on the author and book were created in Good Faith. I should not be blocked. This is really unfair and in Bad Faith against me. --Ludvikus 06:28, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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Apparently you haven't understood all the messages left on your talk page. You were repeatedly asked to stop your behaviour, and abide to consensus. Wikipedia is not a battleground and your editing was disruptive, and sometimes worse. You were warned it was your last chance. — -- lucasbfr talk 07:08, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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Please note carefully the double standard at WP:POINT (-- Ludvikus 06:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)):
Will I be weeping tears? Crocodile ones, perhaps. Given the outright nonsensicality of your edits, my sympathy is non-existent. Chinese shadows, indeed...Moreschi Talk 19:43, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
You got the wrong guy!!! I'm the guy being described by Administrator User:Mikkalai below:
“ | I am fine with article protected with this glaring nonsense in the middle. I will not mediate with this obviously mentally damaged person. If wikipedia don't want or cannot deal with such people, my only answer here is the revert button. If you don't see the idiotism or intentional disruption in this page, let us wait until some newspaper makes a laughing stock of it. `'Míkka 03:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC) | ” |
If that's not trolling, I do not know what is. Please Unblock me. And Block the true Troller: User:Mikkalai.
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I am not the Troller. You got the wrong guy. The Troller is that other guy. You all know who I mean. But he's got more friends than I do. And he's a Wikipedia Administrator and I'm not. You are being unfair. Please reconsider your own behavior. What you are doing to me is really what you are doing to Wikipedia. It is very, very, bad for me to be attacked in this way by what appears to be the majority. Please reconsider what you are doing. No good editors will stay here. I certainly will not. The Rules at Wikipedia need to be applied uniformly. I now understand very well the Founding Fathers of the United States and the need for the separation of powers. Because there is no such thing at Wikipedia you all have to be extremely careful when you apply these disciplinary measures. You are hurting Wikipedia more than you are hurting me by Blocking me for Two Months simply because I would not submit to bullying. That is not right. Please reconsider. Do not allow this kind of bullying against me to continue.
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Blatant trolling. Plus you state that you will not stay here which indicates to me that your unblock request wasn't serious anyway. — Yamla 14:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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Please stop your Kafkaesque attacks on me as in The Trial by Franz Kafka. If this Wrongful Block continues, I will not come back after the Block ends. Timidity should not be a condition for staying at Wikipedia. What for G-d's sake is wrong with saying that? I will not come back after the Block ends in 2-months. How does that violate any WP rule? Is the ultimate Rule - conformity to the Majority? Are we here in George Orwell's, Nineteen eighty-four? You really expect an editor to tolerate this kind of abuse? --Ludvikus 15:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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You were warned a number of times for your actions/behavior, yet you persisted. You knew full well that you would be blocked if you continued this behavior, and here you are. We're only enforcing policy. There is no abuse here. An uninvolved administrator performed a perfectly legitimate block. Also, Mikkalai was blocked for his comments directed to you on October 21. However, the block was later overturned. Nishkid64 ( talk) 15:30, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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Please unblock this unfair block. It's really not my fault. It's the fault of that powerful Administrator who promised to engage in an Edit War with me and is doning precisely what he promised he would do to me. It is not my fault. Please unblock and be fair for the sake of Wikipedia. -- Ludvikus 15:53, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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Repeating this over and over again won't make it happen. You are not supposed to use this template multiple times in a row. There's been enough independent review now. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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Let me answer what I think is the easiest question first. I don't think there's any reason to do anything about that dangling talk page. It all looks pretty old and it's not hurting anyone, neither does it look to relevant to anything at the real Protocols page. At the same time, it's usually not a good idea to wipe out the history of what anyone has said. -- Steven J. Anderson ( talk) 01:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
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Help:Footnotes seems fairly good. Look at the wikimarkup of this message.
It is probably better to quote the a work's title in full each time rather than use "ibid" - text with embedded refs may get moved around, still remain valid but the ibid's might become nonsense in the ref list. -- RHaworth ( Talk | contribs) 18:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
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It's for my own use & reference -- Ludvikus 12:06, 29 September 2007 (UTC)):
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Hi! I've fixed navigation bar. If you'll need any help with the template you can ask me and I'll see what I can do. And thanks for the barnstar. M0RD00R 18:11, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Something like that? I'm not sure it would look nice with the titles though M0RD00R 18:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I guess the difference is that (<br />) is in XHTML and (<br>) is in HTML. I really hope that explains something to you, because it does not say a lot to me :), because I'm absolute n00b in any of those languages myself. M0RD00R 17:48, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I've archived everything except the material above. Hope this is what you expected. If not, let me know and I will undo it. Banno 21:38, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
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Is this what it purports to be? -- Ludvikus 23:01, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Talk page apparently got lost during the moves. Currently it is here [2]. Now administrator needs to delete current talk page to make a room for a move. M0RD00R 14:44, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
-- SineBot 23:34, 29 September 2007 (UTC) Inadvertent error, slip of the fingers. Ludvikus 02:17, 30 September 2007 (UTC) -->
Please write a separate article about the pamphlet The Jewish Bolshevism and never again do such page moves. `' Míkka 22:22, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello. I noticed that you added this report to WP:AN/3RR. Now, I understand why you placed that there, but that isn't quite the proper page. I'm actually not sure exactly where to put it, but my best guess would be on WP:AN/I, the Administrator's noticeboard for Incidents in general. Regards, You Can ' t See Me! 05:24, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Amazing article, thanks! Someone (non-identified dipper-in) has removed your sentence about Lacey's comment. If instead of saying 'it is probably true that...' you simply wrote 'Lacey states...' then no-one could argue with the statement or its suitability for WP. However I can't see at a glance who Lacey is, and that statement would want a footnote. All the best, Sedgefoot 06:49, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
CULTURAL DESK BOOKS OF THE TIMES By WALTER GOODMAN FORD: The Men and the Machine. By Robert Lacey. Illustrated. 778 pages. Little, Brown. $24.95. FORD is a workmanlike assemblage by an English writer of a great American family saga. Robert Lacey carries us briskly through almost a century of corporate fortunes (Model A, Model T, Mustang) and misfortunes (Edsel, Pinto). He makes admirably clear the technical and marketing considerations that have gone into each new or revised model and provides plenty of opportunity along the way to view the ... July 9, 1986
That is all. -- jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 15:31, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I have only started. Maybe I can put some more time in tomorrow. Thanks for the recognition. -- Kevin Murray 00:27, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I have this feeling that you see the term Bolsheviks as being pejorative. Is that the case ? I am a secular Jew and have no more problem with being referred to as a Bolshevik or a communist even though that is not how I would describe myself. Do you have the same problem with the moniker Jewish philosophers or Jewish celebrities. ? Danny Weintraub : Albion moonlight 07:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
No, that is a new one on me. But I intend to do a bit of wiki and google research on it. I want to know how widespread that view is. I do know that a lot of Jews hate anything remotely similar to Marxism, especially Stalinism . Albion moonlight 23:59, 2 October 2007 (UTC) Danny Weintraub. : Albion moonlight 06:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes I really am Jewish but your implication seems to be that you believe your assertions about Jewish Bolshevism being is common knowledge. I do not believe that it is common knowledge. If you believe that it is perhaps you should create a request for comment on the articles talk page. I think that once you realize that it isn't common knowledge even amongst Jews you may change your mind and realize that you may be pushing a Pov.
If you referred to the other editors as being antisemitic you are guilty of making a personal attack on other Wikipedians and should apologize. If you did not make such an accusation then you may have a legitimate complaint. If you moved an article without consensus then you broke a rule. I have done nothing to deserve your ire. I hope you manage to work things out with Jpgordan. : Danny Weintraub : Albion moonlight 15:22, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
The thing is, an internet troll on wikipedia is just an internet troll on wikipedia. We don't need a Troll (Wikipedia) article. The header text about wikipedia trolls should be more than sufficient. Apologies if I came across as impolite- you may find that a bit of politeness/smarminess can come in handy to get around stubborn people when editors who are particularly idealistic about wikipedia get dragged in. Not that I've actually learnt that lesson by now. Nimmo 11:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm trying to sort them out of the generic Category:Book stubs category, and since they were used as political propaganda I sorted them to Category:Political book stubs. Any suggestions as to where they should go? History books? Thanks - Her Pegship (tis herself) 19:03, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
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The following is for my reference. -- Ludvikus 01:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC) ---
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I fear you are getting categories and templates mixed up. Category:Controversial literature should be for any article about a controversial book whether the article be a stub or not. Template:Controversial literature-stub could be created to mark stub articles and to place them into Category:Controversial literature. An article entitled Categories:Controversial literature was a meaningless namespace violation. In case you wanted its text, I have buried it in the history of your sandbox. -- RHaworth 02:25, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Notable or notorious antisemites, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Notable or notorious antisemites satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also " What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Notable or notorious antisemites and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Notable or notorious antisemites during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. — iridescent (talk to me!) 13:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
You might want to run it past User:BrownHairedGirl - in my experience, she's generally the best judge of whether a category or list is likely to be viable or be deleted, and what changes if any need to be made. As Category:Antisemites has already been deleted, you may get opposition in recreating it. (Incidentally, while I currently live in London, I'm not a "fine British chap" but an expat New York Jew.) — iridescent (talk to me!) 16:01, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Here's the recent Category creation:
Category:Notable or notorious antisemites From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Listed here are individuals who played some notable role, or a notorious one, in history, literature, or publication. Please note that mere incident(s) involving some apparent antisemitic conduct or speach is insufficient to qualify the inclusion of a person on this list. Please be very careful in your selections. Remember also that this is not a place to make your own personal judgments. Neither should it be a place or space to libel or slander a living person with whose views you strongly disagree. Nor is it a place to list someone who exercised poor judgment in the choice of words on a particular occasion. Pages in category "Notable or notorious antisemites" There are 10 pages in this section of this category. A Arthur Cherep-Spiridovich B Boris Brasol F Henry Ford G G. Butmi H Reinhard Heydrich Heinrich Himmler Adolf Hitler L L. Fry P Pavel Krushevan W Nesta Helen Webster Retrieved from " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Notable_or_notorious_antisemites" Category: Antisemitism
Yours truly, -- Ludvikus 16:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Maybe renaming to Ideologists of antisemitism should be considered so that the story of deleted category "Antisemitic people" will not repeat again? Creating list article also is a reasonable option I think M0RD00R 16:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
The deletion of your new category is already being discussed. Don't remove the deletion notice from the category itself - the notice does not need to be signed, and removing it won't stop the discussion. Computer not responding 01:39, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
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Check again. I only touched up the UN (WW II) image (it was damaged). I think it's pre-1923. But somebody else found it before me. So do your research further please. -- Ludvikus 11:48, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
As I said, the category should be deleted or renamed. Category:Antisemites would be useful, but which we should have no articles on unnotable antisemties - thus there is no need for 'notable (or notorious) antisemites' category. PS. We have Category:Murderers - but not Category:Notable or notorious murderers. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 15:40, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Removal of nominations for deletion is considered vandalism. Please don't do that again. And nominations for deletion are never signed on the article page. If you had gone to the CfD page, you would have seen my signature, and that my nomination was not capricious. Corvus cornix 17:18, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Since both pages have a history, other than being a redirect of each other, the move can only be done by an administrator. The naming of the template is not a huge issue, though, as it's not usually user visible, and thus I think, for the sake of simplicity, having the name without quotes, is probably the better way to go. Regards, -- Jeff3000 14:52, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
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Check out: Template:"The Protocols (notice that there's only an opening quote.). Thanks. -- Ludvikus 09:44, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Why don't you put your vote in support of this Category? Vote Keep so it won't get deleted. Thanks, -- Ludvikus 00:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Had no idea that existed. If so, I stand corrected. Thank you. -- Ludvikus 00:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I've checked the Rule. It seems that you're mistaken in its application to me. It is not an Absolute rule. In fact, it's very clear that there are circumstances in which canvassing is proper, and good for Wikipedia. Please reconsider you're observation. -- Ludvikus 01:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
'''[[Canvassing]]''' is sending messages to multiple Wikipedians with the intent to influence a community discussion. <ref>Any kind of solicitation may meet this definition, including, for example, a custom signature to automatically append some promotional message to every signed post.</ref> Under certain conditions it is acceptable to notify other editors of ongoing discussions, but messages that are written to influence the outcome rather than to improve the quality of a discussion compromise the consensus building process and are generally considered disruptive. This guideline explains how to notify editors without engaging in disruptive canvassing. <ref>On at least one occasion, a provocative attempt to stack an ongoing poll by cross-posting has contributed towards an Arbitration Committee ruling of disruptive behavior that resulted in probation and eventual banning by the community. An arbitrator clarified the position: "Briefly, I think a reasonable amount of communication about issues is fine. Aggressive propaganda campaigns are not. The difference lies in the disruption involved. If what is happening is getting everyone upset then it is a problem. Often the dividing line is crossed when you are contacting a number of people who do not ordinarily edit the disputed article." See [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al#StrangerInParadise is disruptive]].</ref>
Therefore, Ludvikus did not break the rule in its literal sense, but, as a general rule of "Wikiquette" telling a user to vote a certain was in a discussion is frowned upon. To explain further, the message was only placed on one user's talk page, so it is not canvassing (at least described word-for-word in the canvassing policy), but it is something that is generally looked upon with differing degrees of dislike. Had Ludvikus placed the message on multiple users' talk pages, then it would be a clear violation. As it stands, however, while Ludvikus did not violate the policy, I suggest that they refrain from posting messages like that on talk pages. Hope that's clear enough, and happy editing, ( ar ky ) 02:05, 7 October 2007 (UTC)A hard and fast rule does not exist with regard to selectively notifying on their talk pages certain editors who have or are thought to have a predetermined point of view, in order to influence a vote. However, the greater the number of editors contacted, the more often this behavior is engaged in, and the greater the resulting disruption, the more likely it is that this behavior will result in warnings and/or sanctions. Some Wikipedians have suggested that informing editors on all "sides" of a debate (e.g., everyone who voted in a previous AfD on a given subject) may be acceptable.
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Unfortunately, I don't know Russian; I know Polish. You may want to ask, for example, User:Irpen, for help.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 16:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi! Would you be interested in DYK debate [9] on Ghetto benches. Apparently there are some users doubting racial nature of this discriminatory act. What's your opinion? Cheers. M0RD00R 17:47, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I mean these. -- Irpen 19:31, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Boldness is good when editing but by far less in moving. And even when editing Be bold but don't be reckless. Also, please be polite and concentrate on building a good encyclopedia overall, not trying to find every chance to insert issues closest to your heart left and right. Antisemitism is a horrible phenomenon, it needs to be covered but it needs to be covered properly. If you overpush, you undermine the credibility of this coverage in the eyes of the readers. -- Irpen 19:46, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Although I disagree with current title, personally I am a fan of WP:UE I'm sure we'll have plenty of time to discuss it later. I don't mind even RfM. But there are some more serious issues to discuss now in and around this article such as a denial of racial nature of this act, attempts to portray it as a clash between Polish and Jewish extremist organizations (sic!), there all parts are equally to blame and so on. Of cause it is not easy not to loose temper in the face of such a blatant distortions of historical facts, but simply there is no other way than to stay calm and concentrated on important things. Let's have a quality time discussing what really matters. Cheers. M0RD00R 20:38, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Quite to the contrary. Term Ghetto benches is used in English. Just click on this link [10]. How about continuing this discussion on the article talk page. Cheers. M0RD00R 20:41, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Nur für Deutsche was not an ethnic slur. Neither is getto ławkowe.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 20:49, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Personally I would go with "bench ghetto", but the fact is that in academic sources mostly term "ghetto benches" is used. The usage of "ghetto benches" outnumbers "bench ghetto" by 10:1 ratio according to google books. M0RD00R 21:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
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You seem to think that a message was left here that wasmeant for me. And you seem to have posted it on my page. I have no idea what your talking about - and I wish you had not done that. You should contact the person who sent it and tell them that they have made a mistake. -- Ludvikus 02:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Subcategories are actually categories in syntax, just called 'sub'. So it would be Category:Antisemites.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 04:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
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I disagree with Mikka here. Copyright for the books is held by the publisher not the author like for, say, painting and the clock starts ticking from the date of publication, not from the date of author's death. That said, Ludvikus, unless you change your demeanor, you will get blocked. -- Irpen 06:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Please don't write the same or similar text in two different articles.This is against wikipedia rules. Please confine The Jewish Bolshevism to the pamphlet and Jewish Bolshevism to generan discussion of the term. `' Míkka 00:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
As for quoting :Lacqueur, the second quote is sufficient to desribe the whole point. `' Míkka 00:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
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You wrote:
The fact that they are hoaxes does not change the fact that they were written as a political and religious attack against the Jews, thus making either of these classifications correct. Since we do not have a "hoax book stub", "plagiarism book stub" or "forgery book stub", I sorted it according to what we do have.
You wrote:
I did not turn the articles into anything. They are still in the controversial literature category, which is a parent category for Category:Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which contains the articles (as well as the myriad other redundant categories the articles occupied). Fortunately, I don't care what happens to the categorization of the articles, as long as users can find them efficiently, which is what categorizing is for. I think that if it is important to you, you should revert the edits, rather than lecturing me.
You wrote:
As a scholar myself, I am in my right mind, and I resent the implication that no one but you really knows what the Protocols are about, or how to edit Wikipedia articles. If you cannot abide any changes to articles you have edited, then you are in the wrong place and should start your own website. Regards, Her Pegship (tis herself) 04:00, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Please state the articles and the modifications to which you refer. I am unable to find the changes that you are talking about. 07:49, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, there was vandalism before your contribution ( [13]), which you did not revert. I did notice your contributions ( [14], [15]) when I was reverting the vandalism to the article and I did paste in the sentence you added ( [16]). I believe the anon who edited the article after you has fixed everything ( [17]).
Best, Akriasas 22:27, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Ah, I see that I put the sentence in the wrong position (and the anon did as well). I'll fix this presently. Akriasas 22:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the interest. As I don't know anything about the subject, I'll abstain - my vote in favor of Poland would be not very neutral here, I am afraid :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 04:44, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
"I come from Ukraine"?
or
"I come from the Ukraine"?
I was only asking the question! -- Ludvikus 07:05, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I would counter by saying that the pronounciation of the word itself sounds enough like a plural word to warrent the article. Ostap 07:40, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
First, my apologies for not attending to The Morning Post: I have been travelling. In any case, the issue seems to have settled. The same approach might be advisable in the present case - wait and see, or take it to talk. Banno 08:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the invitation, as soon as I have more time Iwill be glad to help out. Greetings and respect. Tymek 17:54, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
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I think you may be interested in this: [21].-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 05:27, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
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I'm sorry I employed the word "true" in my mistaken edit of the article in question. "Truth" is not the issue in plagiarism and I regret it if I seemed to imply as much.
As a matter of fact, the history of anti-Semitism is not an obsession with me (as it clearly is with so many people) and I had not heard of either the 1903 Znamya edition of the Protocols or of Maurice Joly's 19th Century French political satire. My sole reading in the field of what I suppose we should begin calling "Protocols of the Elders of Zion Studies" was the article I had edited, which makes no mention of these. I got the impression from reading it that this Russian fakir was the original source of the slander.
I would agree with you that I am at fault for not having done wider reading in this area and having much-too-naively blundered in, like a barefoot child into a minefield. Writtenright 07:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)Writtenright
I believe I left out the Japanese because the Japanese, at that time, were not traditionally allies of the Russians, and would be unlikely to be working for the Russian Red Army. There was a war called the Russo-Japanese War which had taken place just a few years earlier--didn't you know that? Also, I don't believe the Japanese, who had modernized themselves in the 19th century, retained such long mustaches such as are typically used in caricatures of Chinese (or, at least, were used as such in the silent films of the first decades of the 20th century). Badagnani 07:16, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Another editor, named Temur, said, "On the picture there are some men who look like Chinese but they can be anything from Buryats, Mongols, Kalmyks, Tuvanians, Altai-men, Kyrgizs, Kazakhs, Chukchas, or Crimean Tatars." However, if it is true that the White Russians had as a primary part of their propaganda the (racist) claim that Russia would be taken over by Chinese, Jews, etc., then they probably are Chinese. The skullcaps and long mustaches seem more typically Chinese to me than indicative of those other Central Asian ethnic groups. In my opinion, the poster is historically important, and interesting in this context. Badagnani 07:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
The fact that the editor who "controls" the Russian-language sources does not answer simple questions about them makes me doubt the information contained in the article. I've asked him several times now to address these questions and not insult other editors, but he seems only to be interested in doing the latter. If there were Chinese involved in the Russian Revolution, we should accurately document this, using the best sources available. But "we" doesn't exist when the editor who has provided the sources refuses to answer questions about them. Badagnani 23:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, but all Wikipedia articles must meet our criteria for inclusion (see What Wikipedia is not and Deletion policy). Since it does not seem that The Protocols of Zion (imprints) meets these criteria, an editor has started a discussion about whether this article should be kept or deleted.
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Hello. If you have new articles to add for deletion, do so in their own submission. Changing an existing AfD, especially with edits that may be construed as WP:POINT issues, is not a good idea. Please stop. Thank you. -- Avi 15:15, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
... and please do not move the article under discussion; moving it only only causes confusion at AFD. I have reverted your move. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 16:02, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
PS Please please please do read WP:SPIDER. Really. It's very helpful here. --16:57, 17 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by BrownHairedGirl ( talk • contribs)
Dear ludvikus, please read WP:NPA. Accusing other editors of antisemitism is offensive. Violations of NPA can lead to a block. Since it would be a shame to lose a knowledgeable editor such as you, please, tone down you language and comment. Remember: discuss content, not editors. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 16:40, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Let's wait and see what are their replies.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 21:04, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Hmm Ludvik, you used words like "SHIT" and "fork you" ("stupid Poles" speaks for itself) and then you denied using them and you claim that I made false accusations. When I point out exactly what you said and explain to you what you said you complain that my explanation is too explicit. Now how ridiculous is that? IZAK 13:33, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia practice for WP:Articles for deletion discusions is for the nominator's reasons to be entered as part of the nomination, followed by discussion. You are welcome to join the discussion and provide any comments you like. However, your comments cannot be put in the same place as the nominator's. Please respect this. Best, -- Shirahadasha 17:26, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello, is there a reason for putting the same photos many times on your User page? It makes the page hard to read.-- Matthead discuß! O 04:55, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
-- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 13:23, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Ludvikus ( talk · contribs): This may be a good time for you to read up on Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a battleground:
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Thank you for your attention! IZAK 13:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Ludvik: Get this straight, it was BrownHairedGirl ( talk · contribs) who blocked you. I am not an admin. Only Wikipedia:Administrators have the discretion and power to do so. I do not wish to inflame the situation for the next 24 hours. Thank you, IZAK 14:20, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Look at this. At the earliest, I'm second in the sequence, with a large Block. But now I'm put at the bottom by one, or both of you, and am being Blocked for a day as well. How do you explain and justify that? [26] [27] [28]
Look at this. At the earliest, I'm second in the sequence, with a large Block. But now I'm put at the bottom by one, or both of you, and am being Blocked for a day as well. How do you explain and justify that? [29] [30] [31]
Look at this. At the earliest, I'm second in the sequence, with a large Block. But now I'm put at the bottom by one, or both of you, and am being Blocked for a day as well. How do you explain and justify that? [32] [33] [34]
Look at this. At the earliest, I'm second in the sequence, with a large Block. But now I'm put at the bottom by one, or both of you, and am being Blocked for a day as well. How do you explain and justify that? [35] [36] [37]
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* I am allegedly being Blocked for that, and my comment has been moved to the bottom of the sequence. * In fact, to the best of my knowledge, I was the second editor, right after the deletion nominator, who made a comment. * I therefore I ask that my Block be rescinded on the ground of error by the blocking administrator. * I further request that my comment be placed back in sequence in its proper original position, which immediately after the deletion nomination proposal.
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Decline. It was requested you not move your content out of order, and you did. You claim to be second, you were 5th. You even admit that below this statement. Yet, you continually added your statement out of place. Please also cease your obsession with horizontal lines. These are to be used only sparingly in Wikipedia talk pages and your use is inappropriate. — Metros 00:55, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
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Dear User:Metros, or anyone else?
It seems I am still not understood (and on that I see it's probably my fault - my own lack of clarity)
1. I initially had the Good Faith belief that I could place my comment immediately after the nominator. 2. 3. I was corrected in my error by Administrator User:BrownHairedGirl (a.k.a. BHG). 4. So my place in the sequence (I learned) is Number Five (5th place). 5. However, thereafter, BHG placed me at the Bottom of the sequence (at the time), making me Number Seventeen (17th place). 6. It is being out of sequence for which I'm Blocked - but that's because BHG is under the mistaken belief
that I belong in the current 17th place, rather than the 5th place in the sequence.
7. Accordingly, I am being Blocked because I did not accept the 17th place. 8. But the 17th place is out of sequence in which I've been place by BHG. 9. Therefore, if anyone should be Blocked for my being out of sequence, it should be BHG who placed me there out of sequence. 10. I should be placed in the proper sequence - which is Nnumber Five - and not Number Seventeen
were I currently remain (out of sequence).
11. I hope I've succeeded in clarifying the matter. 12. As I'm still blocked, I hope someone will excercise the Bold Wikipedia initiative and place me back as Number Five.
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You were blocked for disrupting the AfD; not simply for putting your comments out of sequence. You do not seem to understand this, nor do you appear to care that your behavior was disruptive. — Haemo 04:42, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
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Sorry to see you having some trouble, Ludvicus. Given what has gone before, may I suggest that you take a deep breath and really look at what the several admins here are saying to you, especially User talk:BrownHairedGirl, who has been extraordinarily helpful in her comments. Given that you have recently returned from an extended block, it is unlikely that further disruption will be tolerated, and quite likely that any further blocks would be permanent. Allow the process at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Protocols of Zion (imprints) to proceed, and go with the consensus that arises. Taking the time to learn about how Wikipedia works will make you a far more effective editor. Banno 07:19, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
PS: Banno, since your not only an Administrator, but a Philosopher, and I think I know your Wikipedia Encyclopedic position well enough to conclude that you probably think that Marxism is not a Philosophy, but something like a school of social thought. Nevertheless, you cannot deny that the term Marxist philosophy exists, even here at Wikipedia. So how come Class interests is in Red? Banno, do you think it's possible that the threat of Blocking me forever might possibly be due to the fact that I'm not properly representing those class interests? Now you may think that the question is irrelevant. So let me explain. I'm asking you now to give yourself a break, and think hard how you can improve Wikipedia so that productive, knowledgable, and well informed editors are not wrongfully Blocked or Banned forever because some well-intentioned Administrator believes another editor (me) should go to the Bottom (#17) of the list in sequence instead of the Top (#5).
Yours truly, -- Ludvikus 14:06, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Quoting BHG:
Ludvikus, move on means move on. Just let it go. I do not intend to take any further action against either you or IZAK over what has happened already with regard to that AfD, and I will object if any other admin does. You were blocked for the disruption, and that issue is done. I do not intend to do any further cleanup; there doesn't seem to me to be anything sufficiently outrageous to justify removing it. I don't see personal attacks against you by IZAK which warrant any further action (sucha s a block or further warnings), but as I said above, if you want to pursue a complaint or to ask for comments to be deleted, you can raise a complaint at WP:ANI. I have said before that I think that will only serve to prolong the dispute, and that I think it would be a bad idea, but you are always free to make a complaint if you want to. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 17:36, 19 October 2007 (UTC) Hard to see the forest because of the trees. *You say: I do not intend to take any further action against either [of] you . . . over what has happened already with regard to that AfD, and I will object if any other admin does. That's what I needed to know. Thank you. Yours truly, -- Ludvikus 21:54, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Quote from User:BrownHairedGirl's Talk page completed. Yours truly, -- Ludvikus 22:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
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Need you help again. I'm affraid I may have messed up somewhat regarding my deletion proposal for the above.
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Ludvikus, we are all here to create good articles. Given the way in which the Wikipedia functions, an essential skill for editors is the ability to reach a consensus. This involves being able to accept opinions that differ from our own, to compromise, to accept that one's work will be changed and even deleted, and perhaps most importantly in your case, to mollify rather than aggravate those with whom one disagrees. I've been watching your edits since you first commenced working here, and it is my belief that this is the area with which you have the most difficulty. Your posts appear to be aimed more at accentuating rather than reducing disagreement. Doubtless this is not intentional, and shows a certain naivety about on-line etiquette rather than deliberate trolling. The question then is whether you are able to improve your ability to "get on" with other editors, or whether you are going to persist in helping to create deadlocked situations that require pages to be locked.
I was closely involved with the edits on the philosophy pages that resulted in your six-month block. You caused considerable disruption to several articles, effectively preventing work on them. The question in my mind is, was I correct to give you another opportunity to edit the Wikipedia, or should I have given you a permanent block? For this reason, I've been occasionally watching your edits, and helping where I can.
For the first few weeks after your return, you were apparently able to edit quite successfully. That is, you added content that was for the most part accepted by the community, you refrained from reverting or deleting other's edits, and your talk-space posts were properly formatted and sensible. In the last couple of weeks you seem to be returning to the behaviour that earned you a ban.
That your editing has attracted the attention of two or three other admins is very worrying. Although I would like to see you editing on the Wikipedia, I am not prepared to watch another time-consuming escalation of your disruption to the point where another administrator blocks you. If your edits cause further unreasonable disruption, I will block you. While it is possible, I doubt that any other admin who is properly aquainted with your edit history will see fit to unblock you. In effect, you will be banned from the Wikipedia.
I want to assure you that I do not wish this to happen. I would much rather see you edit in a more relaxed and less aggravating fashion, taking the occasional break in order to clear the air, allowing others to make changes, avoiding incivility and edit waring.
Take a deep breath and think carefully; don't just shoot off a reply. What you do in the next day or two will decide whether you remain on the Wikipedia or not. Take a break, perhaps. Allow things to cool down. I doubt that you will get a third chance at being a successful editor. Make the most of this one. Banno 03:23, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Through their unfortunate experience, African Americans have contributed to the civilizations of the world an understanding of how Racism works and how we may stamp it out. Their culture, perhaps more than any other people on earth, made us in the United States acutely sensitive to how language works to continue human bigotry. Changing how a people are to be called is an important way of ridding ourselves of bigorty. Even " Afro-American" is now considered a Pejorative expression for the people. Why on earth should it be different with " Jewish Bolshevism"? It is merely a Pejorative expression. Nothing more. It follows that as Wikipedians that we have no business putting in the statistics about how many Jews were this or that. What difference does it make? " Negroes" were deemed " inferior" by Racist Americans until the Civil Rights Movement changed that fundamentally. Would you include in the WP article " Negro" a discussion of IQ's? Certainly not. Neither should there be any similar statistics in " Jewish Bolshevism." Yours truly, -- Ludvikus 23:33, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
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Okay. People have been telling you multiple times that you are under last warnings and only this far away from another long block. By continuing your trolling on WP:ANI, and finally by creating the Mikhail Khostov article, you did it. You were evidently creating this stub, without any assertion of notability, precisely in order to underline the alleged non-notability of the subject, in order to disparage the use of references to his work in a dispute at Talk:Chinese in the Russian Revolution and in the Russian Civil War. This is the definition of WP:POINT disruption. I'm blocking you for two months; that's mild compared with what others have warned you about. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:20, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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There is no adequate book on the Russian Civil War. The stub on the author and book were created in Good Faith. I should not be blocked. This is really unfair and in Bad Faith against me. --Ludvikus 06:28, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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Apparently you haven't understood all the messages left on your talk page. You were repeatedly asked to stop your behaviour, and abide to consensus. Wikipedia is not a battleground and your editing was disruptive, and sometimes worse. You were warned it was your last chance. — -- lucasbfr talk 07:08, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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Please note carefully the double standard at WP:POINT (-- Ludvikus 06:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)):
Will I be weeping tears? Crocodile ones, perhaps. Given the outright nonsensicality of your edits, my sympathy is non-existent. Chinese shadows, indeed...Moreschi Talk 19:43, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
You got the wrong guy!!! I'm the guy being described by Administrator User:Mikkalai below:
“ | I am fine with article protected with this glaring nonsense in the middle. I will not mediate with this obviously mentally damaged person. If wikipedia don't want or cannot deal with such people, my only answer here is the revert button. If you don't see the idiotism or intentional disruption in this page, let us wait until some newspaper makes a laughing stock of it. `'Míkka 03:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC) | ” |
If that's not trolling, I do not know what is. Please Unblock me. And Block the true Troller: User:Mikkalai.
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I am not the Troller. You got the wrong guy. The Troller is that other guy. You all know who I mean. But he's got more friends than I do. And he's a Wikipedia Administrator and I'm not. You are being unfair. Please reconsider your own behavior. What you are doing to me is really what you are doing to Wikipedia. It is very, very, bad for me to be attacked in this way by what appears to be the majority. Please reconsider what you are doing. No good editors will stay here. I certainly will not. The Rules at Wikipedia need to be applied uniformly. I now understand very well the Founding Fathers of the United States and the need for the separation of powers. Because there is no such thing at Wikipedia you all have to be extremely careful when you apply these disciplinary measures. You are hurting Wikipedia more than you are hurting me by Blocking me for Two Months simply because I would not submit to bullying. That is not right. Please reconsider. Do not allow this kind of bullying against me to continue.
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Blatant trolling. Plus you state that you will not stay here which indicates to me that your unblock request wasn't serious anyway. — Yamla 14:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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Please stop your Kafkaesque attacks on me as in The Trial by Franz Kafka. If this Wrongful Block continues, I will not come back after the Block ends. Timidity should not be a condition for staying at Wikipedia. What for G-d's sake is wrong with saying that? I will not come back after the Block ends in 2-months. How does that violate any WP rule? Is the ultimate Rule - conformity to the Majority? Are we here in George Orwell's, Nineteen eighty-four? You really expect an editor to tolerate this kind of abuse? --Ludvikus 15:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You were warned a number of times for your actions/behavior, yet you persisted. You knew full well that you would be blocked if you continued this behavior, and here you are. We're only enforcing policy. There is no abuse here. An uninvolved administrator performed a perfectly legitimate block. Also, Mikkalai was blocked for his comments directed to you on October 21. However, the block was later overturned. Nishkid64 ( talk) 15:30, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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Ludvikus ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
Please unblock this unfair block. It's really not my fault. It's the fault of that powerful Administrator who promised to engage in an Edit War with me and is doning precisely what he promised he would do to me. It is not my fault. Please unblock and be fair for the sake of Wikipedia. -- Ludvikus 15:53, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Repeating this over and over again won't make it happen. You are not supposed to use this template multiple times in a row. There's been enough independent review now. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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Let me answer what I think is the easiest question first. I don't think there's any reason to do anything about that dangling talk page. It all looks pretty old and it's not hurting anyone, neither does it look to relevant to anything at the real Protocols page. At the same time, it's usually not a good idea to wipe out the history of what anyone has said. -- Steven J. Anderson ( talk) 01:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
The template for adding signatures to unsigned comments is located at Template:Unsigned. You have to follow the instructions and put the user's nick and the time in manually. -- Steven J. Anderson ( talk) 01:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
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I am a bit reluctant to block for minor nuisance tagging, and I suspect they'd be back as soon as it was over, with an axe to grind. I suggest an RfC, which would might flush out a useful opinion, or else it would allow any further disruption to be dealt with summarily. Having spent time around some 9/11-related articles, I've learned that blocking determined POV warriors inflames the issue: what the article really needs are more eyes. Acroterion (talk) 20:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. There's no barnstar I'd be prouder to have. -- Steven J. Anderson ( talk) 11:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
"Well, there had to be one. It couldn't have appeared out of thin air."
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Help:Footnotes seems fairly good. Look at the wikimarkup of this message.
It is probably better to quote the a work's title in full each time rather than use "ibid" - text with embedded refs may get moved around, still remain valid but the ibid's might become nonsense in the ref list. -- RHaworth ( Talk | contribs) 18:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)