[1]? Is it an invention? Is the Christmas tree an invention? An invention is a unique or novel device, method, composition or process. It may be an improvement upon a machine or product, or a new process for creating an object or a result. An invention that achieves a completely unique function or result may be a radical breakthrough. Such works are novel and not obvious to others skilled in the same field. Hafspajen ( talk) 14:19, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
wells are deep subjects... (cue trombone). -- kelapstick( bainuu) 15:50, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Glossary of shapes with metaphorical names Hafspajen ( talk) 15:51, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Could you tell me how and where do I report a legal threat that has been sent using Wikipedia email? The help page suggests to report at ANI, but there I can not post email.
Plus could you check this short paragraph
Adhisaya_Ulagam#Release_and_reception? The film had a poor box office record, the information is sourced by one highly reliable newspaper ToI and another more or less reliable source.
Now they want to remove the entire reception and box office section
Tito☸
Dutta 18:28, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
This article came in via AFC this evening about the man who might well have pioneered the concept of sex with a hoover, and I'm sure one of you lot can help improve it. There's some content on Google Books that can be used. I'd love to help, but I've got to break up a fight between two children upstairs. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:50, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Remember that IP editor from Chile who responds with abuse every time there is a content dispute? User talk:200.104.245.226 may jog your memory. Just a heads up, he is back [2]. W C M email 09:12, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, but them's the shakes. You know I like to shoot straight, and I give no advantage to either party--not to you because you're registered, not to them because I think they have a good point. Thank you, and good luck, Drmies ( talk) 14:55, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Would you mind reminding our IP friend not to disrupt talk pages by interleaving his comments in mine please. I would do it but on past performance he'll simply get abusive. W C M email 07:53, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
And again, this is getting decidedly ridiculous, he is separating the comment from he post that spawned it, now you can't follow the discussion and no I won't revert again. I should really but I don't want a block from you for revert warring even that restoring talk pages is one of the exceptions. W C M email 20:40, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Drmies, can I ask for you to double check my translations of the Dutch quotes at Soeara Berbisa? — Crisco 1492 ( talk) 09:48, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello Dr. The other day you blocked DHalilialbania201197 indefinitely for being a sock of Denis Halili, created and used in order to avoid scrutiny, and previous warnings. Today a new obvious sock popped up, Denis20Halili01 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), adding the exact same unsourced material to the exact same articles. So I thought you might to whack both the new sock and the until now unblocked master. I could file an SPI, but a), it would most probably take several days (not for me to file it but for someone to look at it), and b), the socking is so obvious here that it doesn't take much of an investigation to see that they're one and the same... Thomas.W talk 13:45, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
I happened to read your comments on an RM for the Assault Weapons Legislation article. Very thorough, very methodical, very clear. That is some first-rate admin-ing.
I left a reply to you on the Assault weapons legislation in the United States talk page. It begins, "No problem." I am typing this on my phone's little touch pad. Will be gone one week but will check in as able... most likely this way unless son lets me take his notebook computer. Will you please help me keep an eye on that discussion while I'm gone? I'll be back May 26. Lightbreather ( talk) 15:03, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
The tag compared to the is priceless...-- kelapstick( bainuu) 18:25, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Drmies, Launchballer has suggested a new hook after you told him the original one was uninteresting. Can you please take a look at it? Many thanks.
PS: Apologies for not doing anything with the Poklonskaya nom, but I think it's sufficiently controversial that it should be closed by an admin who's familiar with DYK, and I am not an admin (nor do I want to be). BlueMoonset ( talk) 03:38, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Back to the original topic: there's now a new ALT for the "I Got U" DYK nom, if you're willing to dive in again. Thanks. BlueMoonset ( talk) 14:48, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Picture description. A miraculous intervention (1182) by the Virgin Mary in saving the life of the 12th century Portuguese knight Dom Fuas Roupinho, possibly a templar, while he was hunting deer one foggy early morning. Beside the chapel, on a protuberant rock 110 meters above the Atlantic, one can still see the mark made in the rock by one of the hands of Dom Fuas horse.
In memory of the miracle he had a chapel ( Capela da Memória) built over the small grotto, where the miraculous statue had been left (c.715) by king Roderic after the monk's death. The first church in O Sítio, was built over the grotto Hafspajen ( talk) 14:04, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
OK Hafspajen, we have work to do, all of us, including Always Learning, and of course Yngvadottir. AL, can you have a look at the Portuguese article pt:Pederneira (Nazaré), to see if it has any quality at all and if it's worth translating--I think, after some Googling, that it has notability. In that case, part of the history needs to split off from Nazaré, Portugal, because the church, for instance, properly belongs to Pederneira. In addition, AL, I'd like for you to look at this here to see if it appears accurate and somewhat in line with the pt-wiki Pederneira article. For instance, I need to know if the Alcoa river in that source is indeed the Alcoa River. It would be nice to get a map, too--I have a hunch that the Pederneira Bay, if indeed it is still called that way, is an important geographical feature and it might be nice to look at. (The Portuguese articles don't have anything.) And I wonder if Sítio needs an article, but maybe that's of later concern (see pt:Sítio da Nazaré). Besides there are associated articles: I know that Candleabracadabra could have a field day with something like pt:Elevador da Nazaré.
Alright. AL, we could really use your help here. Let's see if we can put this town and area on the map properly. Bishonen, do you know a mapmaker on the English wiki, or should I try the Graphics Workshop again? Drmies ( talk) 21:36, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
1 - PT:WIKI entry of the Pederneira neigbourhood seems tidied up and written in neutral language, has no refs though; 2 - Yes it is the same river, 100% positive. I profit from the opportunity to say i'll be leaving WP for good after the 2014 FIFA World Cup, this time no turning back, i'm not having fun (no way, quite the contrary) anymore, for quite some time.
Wish i could have been of more help, happy week to Mies and everyone that participated in this exchange. -- AL ( talk) 00:55, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
List of Toy Story characters ...eh. Hafspajen ( talk) 16:34, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
I was unable to move the draft back to the article title so a history merge or admin intervention is needed. I have taken the article to a deletion discussion so the community can weigh in on how best to handle the subject. Given your interest in the dispute over Hawaiian foods I am letting you know so that you can provide whatever assistance is needed. Thanks. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 17:09, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Drmies. I had previously moved this cut and paste pastiche from Hawaii-related articles into draft space with this rationale. Please notice, Candleabracadabra did not reply to that discussion, but instead copypasted the draft space article into the redirect and nominated it for deletion to clean up the page history. Once again, Candleabracadabra refuses to engage in a discussion about problems with his edits. I think the article should be moved back to draft space or his personal sandbox, as it is not ready for mainspace. It is simply a duplicate fork of the cuisine of Hawaii article, most of which has nothing to do with Native Hawaiian cuisine. I have temporarily remedied that problem by removing it, but Candleabracadabra is continuing to add too many images and surround the text, even after this problem has been pointed out to him several times in multiple discussions on article talk pages and his user talk page. There appears to be a serious competency issue at work here that goes beyond any simple content dispute. Viriditas ( talk) 21:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
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Sadie the black Labrador Retriever... Hafspajen ( talk) 17:09, 18 May 2014 (UTC) |
Hello Dr. Since you seem to be online I thought I'd post here too, in addition to the report I filed at WP:UAA. Could you please block
BilCat litter (
talk ·
contribs ·
deleted contribs ·
nuke contribs ·
logs ·
filter log ·
block user ·
block log)? They're impersonating/targetting user
BilCat (see contributions).
Thomas.W
talk 20:27, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Can nothing be done about Scalhotrod's and his ownership issue with the Assault weapons ban page? In addition to moving it unilaterally without discussion, he is now removing as many instances of the word ban as he can get away with. Aren't these articles under discretionary sanction? Isn't what he's doing completely contrary to those. Please, please help. I'm on vacation for a week and losing weeks and weeks of work. All I have to work from is my phone. Please help. This can't possibly be acceptable behavior. He's also scrubbed all but one instance of the word ban from the Roberti-Rooms article. Please help. Lightbreather ( talk) 22:36, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
In addition to being on a mission to wipe out as many uses of "assault weapons ban" as possible, he also is unilaterally removing "high-capacity magazine" wherever he can. No discussion. No matter how well sourced or how long they've been part of the lexicon... these terms must not be used on WP (according to Scal's and a half-dozen other editors. They have battled editors over this (not just me) for years. Here's the latest: [6] Lightbreather ( talk) 23:40, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Should this page be a disambiguation? It seems to me that cassava is the main subject. The only other yuca subject is a redlink. And a hatnote link can be kept to Yuca (disambiguation) for the yucca subjects. Clearly my process and procedure knowledge is insufficient to know how to process this kind of housekeeping and I've already disappointed Kelapstick once today. If it's too much to handle or involves lots of acronyms we can just let it go. There is only so much Wiki knowledge I can acquire in one day. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 00:27, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
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If you want to discuss this it probably deserves it's own section. Please assume good faith. I am also not sure Drmies will appreciate this discussion taking place on his talk page. But be that as it may, creating an article on the associate professor whose writing's have been the subject of some controversy seemed to me a reasonable outcome given that the AfD close did not work out and the merge was reverted (per what I read on the revdel or whatever the wp:refund Wikispeak is for that subject. I guess I would simply close by saying that I have no objection to moving this discussion to the article talk page or to anyone initiating a deletion discussion for the new article or to any other action that is carried out with respect and consideration and without any attacks or assumptions of bad faith. Discussion is probably the best first step and I always think it strange that it isn't more common as a first step on Wikipedia. That said, as I've noted, this may not be the best place. We have to be respectful of the various sensitivities of our editing community and to whatever disabilities, challenges, or obstacles they may or may not face. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 02:16, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
HERE is the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Involuntary celibacy (2nd nomination), and here redirect [8], and article created. Hafspajen ( talk) 02:49, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
There was a community process, and what you do is against broader community consensus. This is disrespecting the consensus. Hafspajen ( talk) 03:00, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
(od)Thanks!- seems okay to me (apart from the term "incel" (used in the Guardian piece), which sounds like it comes from the same lexicon as "susper" and "misper". Xanthomelanoussprog ( talk) 10:07, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
a favorite of Theodore Roosevelt:
Yabba dabba doo - Scooby Candleabracadabra ( talk) 18:16, 19 May 2014 (UTC) |
Thanks for the cuddly moment!
No, no job at the present time, neither good nor bad. Just feeling soooooooooo tired, wiki-tired and overall-tired...
Cheers mate, happy week -- AL ( talk) 16:04, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
He's back: Denis20halili04 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), with the same totally unsourced fantasy edits. Thomas.W talk 16:32, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Dearest Drmies, per your interest in the Native Hawaiian cuisine saga, I wonder if you can help sort out what happened to the history of the Native Hawaiian cuisine article? After Kelapstick closed the previous AfD discussion as speedy keep the article was moved into my userspace (something along the lines of user:User:Candleabracadabra/Native Hawaiian cuisine) then moved again. I think those pages have now been deleted as implausible redirects. Anyway, the history has been lost. It shows the first edit as one where I added some content from the parent article (you'll notice that the new article indicator doesn't show up). This is very strange indeed and I'm not sure quite how it happened? Perhaps you can get Viriditas to help you sort out where it went? I really have no idea. I thought that redirecting an article after a deletion discussion was closed as "Speedy Keep" was considered disruptive, but Wikipedia is a wonder of neverending surprises, not all of them pleasant. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 17:39, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Interestingly I found a discussion from 2012 where the discussion was closed as a consensus to have two distinct articles. I wasn't involved in that discussion or your admin nom, so I'm definitely not to blame for those outcomes if they were incorrect. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 18:30, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm looking for the edits prior to my work on the article. My recollection is that Native Hawaiian cuisine was a redirect to Cuisine of Hawaii. But underneath that redirect there were edits. It had, apparently been a disputed issue in the past (archive 2 on the Cuisine of Hawaii talk page). Consensus was closed to create two article. But anyway, back to the point, I was just trying to trace what the heck happened, I can't figure out what happened to the edits underneath what was a redirect? Redirecting an article after a deletion discussion closed as speedy keep and when there was already consensus on the article talk page 2-1 is gamesmanship. Where this mysterious lost history has gone I don't know, but it's a big time waster. That's what gamesmanship attempts to achieve after all, disruption. That's why intervention was needed. Sadly, there was mostly bullshit. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 19:09, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Maybe I'm completely wrong. I guess I must be confusing Hawaii regional cuisine with Native Hawaiia cuisine. This whole thing has been so freaking exhausting and neverending I don't know what's what any more. Apologies. I can only keep track of so many moves and redirect and other disruptions and speedy keeps and afds. It's a freaking exhausting game. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 19:16, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
I hope this helps. -- kelapstick( bainuu) 19:50, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
The yuca page over the previous disambig looks good to me. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 21:28, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi Drmies. I have not at all followed what this is all about. But you have blocked Candleabracadabra with a statement that it is a "temporary" block, while in fact it seems to be an indefinite block. It seems to me that your providing a duration--presumably short--for the block is necessary, else it is not temporary. I'll say also that I have found Candleabracadabra to be helpful and cooperative and a good collaborator on topics that we've both edited on, so I am a bit concerned about what's gone on (really i have no idea of fault or anything), and hope it is not really endangering of C's ability to continue contributing. -- do ncr am 01:12, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Your comment reminds me of two things Drmies:
-- kelapstick( on the run) 00:32, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
What barney said deserved a block. If anyone did the same thing concerning gender, sexuality, or race a block would be a knee-jerk reaction. When an editor blatantly demeans the beliefs of 2 billion people, more if you consider other Abrahamic religions, that likewise deserves a block.--v/r - T P 17:18, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
If you are curious, Celestra was the project name of a software project I really enjoyed some years ago. That user name has confused several people over the years, but I think no one will claim this new one is false advertising. Older and ... well older ( talk) 21:02, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
You're a Dutch speaker. Can you please confirm that TwoHorned's allegation that Elst is involved in "astrological milieux and "workgroups"" is wrong. See this and this . Thanks for your help. -- Calypsomusic ( talk) 13:22, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
So you protected Elst because of the dispute between these two, but they've now added René Guénon to their battlefield - care to take a look? Nikkimaria ( talk) 15:09, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
I think you will have to manually inform anyone you tried to ping at SPI, I did not get a notification when you linked my name. -- kelapstick( bainuu) 20:05, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Note that the post containing a link to a userpage must be signed; if the edit does not add a new signature to the page, no notification will be sent.
I noticed that you were involved in an AfD discussion back in 2009 on Connie_Bea_Hope. There are some odd things about that article in addition to the apparent lack of notability. It goes into strange, unsourced details about the subject's life and that of their descendents that would be strange content for published sources. For example, at one point it mentioned that a great-grandchild was a 1L in law school. Further, most of the substantive editing in that article has been done by IPs and SPAs. The SPAs tend to have no user pages, an interest in Mobile, and Italian-sounding names with a four or five digit series of successive numbers at the end of them. One engaged you in debate over notability during the AfD. To add further interest, one of the users that argued for keeping the article was later blocked for sockpuppeting (ChildofMidnight). Should it be nominated again for deletion? Geogene ( talk) 21:16, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Geogene, it's done. Maybe you can have a look and see what can be merged? Drmies ( talk) 01:19, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
Over at Mitsubishi Magna we are still having revert issues as blocked user User:MundusEditus has found new IP addresses to edit from, firstly User:108.60.134.187, then User:152.91.9.115. Can you please weight in with this again? It is very frustrating. OSX ( talk • contributions) 22:37, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Wenger256. I closed the ANI discussion. Couldn't resist some mild sarcasm in my close.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 00:56, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
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The Barnstar of Good Humor |
Here's a Barnstar, awarded to the proprietor of the 'pedias's most popular late night comedy club. Thanks for all you do, from selling tickets to sweeping the floor. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:07, 22 May 2014 (UTC) |
![]() | On 22 May 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Angel Museum, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Oprah donated her Black Angel Collection to the Angel Museum? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Angel Museum. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
— Crisco 1492 ( talk) 12:34, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Hey, I liked that infobox! [18]. This is one of the few examples when an infobox gives the article pondus, weight. A tiny little article like this looks MUCH better with an infobox. Why remove that? [19] Hafspajen ( talk) 00:58, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Hey, I have this great idea that we should start a new fabulous article called Saints in pink robe . And this new interesting article later we can nominate on DYK ... Good, no? I am good, right? Hafspajen ( talk) 14:29, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Taking all aspects of purple’s past and present into consideration, purple symbolizes magic, mystery, spirituality, the sub-conscious, creativity, dignity, royalty – and it evokes all of these meanings more so than any other color.
Variations of purple convey different meanings: Light purples are light-hearted, floral, and romantic. The dark shades are more intellectual and dignified.
The negative meanings of purple are decadence, conceit, and pomposity Among Mediterranean people, purple was reserved for emperors and popes. The Japanese christened it “Imperial Purple”. In Italy most performing artists would not go on stage if they have to wear anything purple. And Deep Purple is...deep purple, Xanty . Haffy ( talk) 15:54, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Most interesting, Xanty. Another poor artist needing attention... Remember, study not pornography.. Hafspajen ( talk) 18:35, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
I have concerns regarding the use of op-eds and primary sources for contentious material about this BLP.
The relevant BLPN string is here.
I have put together a proposed starting point for a more proper article here
I believe there is a general consensus so far that the article needs to head more in the direction of the proposed draft.
I have a WP:COI. I've been pinging a few people because I feel the BLP issues are severe enough to warrant prompt attention. Then I thought of you, as you have always been responsive to such issues.
I believe everyone is acting in good faith and being very civil. Just need a couple bold editors involved that are familiar with BLP rules/pages as it is not proper for an editor with a COI to remove poorly sourced contentous material themselves. CorporateM ( Talk) 15:52, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm off to bed. Would you please take a look at this talk page, which an IP (or 2 IPs) keep refactoring - the last time removed an editor's comment, possibly by mistake but that's on reason not to refactor. Look at User talk:Dougweller#IP 92.234.25.254 for context. The IP addresses are on different continents though. Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 20:54, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Jan Mankes need help to translate captions. Please.
Hafspajen (
talk) 22:27, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Hafspajen (
talk) 22:53, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
...........I think he was a very promising young artist. We should try to find more of his pictures. [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] Hafspajen ( talk) 00:41, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
You and Banner fix the text, right. And then we have place to put pictures. The text under the pictures is still in Dutch, e.g. capions Hafspajen ( talk) 01:02, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Let's make {commons|Category:Paintings of women sitting on rocks indoors}} too. Hafspajen ( talk) 02:17, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
If you feel like taking a look at this and offering your views, that'd be good. Hope you're preparing a fun-filled holiday weekend.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 00:19, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
![]() | On 24 May 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Soerabaijasch Handelsblad, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Dutch-language Soerabaijasch Handelsblad used both Gregorian and Japanese dates in its almost 80 years of publication? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Soerabaijasch Handelsblad. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 01:58, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi Drmies, I'd like to draw your attention to this blocked user's misuse of their talk page privilege. Since you issued the block in the first place, I thought you'd like to be aware of it. M. Caecilius ( talk) 10:53, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
You may remember a while back there was a problem at Fleetwood Mac discography where two other editors and I were arguing about various issues. You protected the article and warned us. We discussed it all and fixed the article. No problem. I then had some issues with User:Lukejordan02 with AC/DC discography and we eventually sorted that out too. I have tried really hard to work with this guy despite being called an idiot [25]. Now he is causing further trouble at Thin Lizzy discography and I am out of patience. Here's the history [26]. He made edits which removed huge sections of the discography with no discussion and no good reason, so I reverted him. I then incorporated the good parts of his edits back into the page, and made other edits along the same lines. He said he was happy with most of that and with what I planned to do next [27]. We then disagreed over one minor point and he then reverted everything I'd done. I refuse to edit war with this guy, but he is impossible to work with. He has edit warred with other editors at John Entwistle discography, Roger Daltrey discography and makes massive deletions with no discussion [28]. What do I do? Bretonbanquet ( talk) 16:22, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Lukejordan02 has done a lot of genre fiddling on Thin Lizzy articles with zero discussion. I'd revert anyone else, but I don't feel I'm in the best position to do that. What do you think? Bretonbanquet ( talk) 23:24, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Drmies: If you have the time (and I feel guilty even requesting, because I know how much you do), could you check over my postings both at Talk:List of women art historians and the AFD for same, and let me know if there's anyplace where I did anything that you feel is egregious? Obviously, I did things that were imperfect, mainly my imperfect search for materials on the topic, but I was actually walking on eggshells from the start of my involvement, starting with discussion rather than tagging. It would be easy to slough off the criticism that I have faced, due to the rather shrill nature of some of the voices involved... but if that's blinding me to some obvious major faux pas, I'd want to know. You're someone with a clear sense of Wikipedia and its practices and not accusable of being antifeminist, so I would value you're insight. (If you would rather not involve yourself, believe me, I understand. You owe me nothing.) -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 00:17, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
When I was a young penis-bearer, many decades ago, things were much simpler. In those days, apparently, it was acceptable to pat waitresses on the bottom and call them "darling" (well, not the English word, in my case). Humans were by definition "men", and singular they hadn't been invented. Simpler, but not better. These complications, where you have to think about words before you use them and you cain't even crack a goddamn joke about blondes and all that, they're good: they progress us. Like the possibility (not in my state) of gay marriage progresses my own marriage (of, as it happens, the non-gay kind). This is all good. Not simple, but we were wrong (like the generation of my parents was) to think that life was simple. So yeah, 100 years from now a current list of women art historians may not be very encyclopedic, but for now it is--that is, if I can work on that lead some more and prove it. Drmies ( talk) 02:55, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi Drmies, hope everything is going well. If you remember, some months back, I sought your help to tackle vandalisms by User:Ricose in the article Joya Ahsan. He's back again and this time it's Hridoy Khan where he's removing the image and deleting the references [29], [30], [31] He raised a concern that the birth year is false, but there's is a source which says the artiste was 17 in 2008, that makes his birth year 1990-91. I have started a thread in the talk page but he continues to remove the references and making other errors.-- Zayeem (talk) 07:22, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
was the BEST verion, in my view, balanced, kicking out the wrong sources, taking the right tone, better than my version or anybody else's, for that matter. I respect quality Wikipedians. Right now, it's once again morphed into a puff piece, but I will continue to see your take as the benchmark version by which all subsequent versions should be judged.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 20:24, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
If you're really disposed to nominate me for adminship, as intimated in this edit, I'm willing (though I'm certainly not Barkis) to accept, but I think you'll need to create a page at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Deor, including the text of your nomination, where I'll answer the standard questions, so that then it can be transcluded to the WP:AFD page. See Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Nominate. Deor ( talk) 21:00, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose, nominator doesn't know how to set up an RFA page
and Jesus cries. Would you like me to tell you all about it, or would you like me to just do it? --
Floquenbeam (
talk) 18:45, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
See here. The sequence of events is (1) delete unsourced material that might otherwise be significant enough to withstand an A7; (2) immediately tag the article as an A7. God knows I'm one of the more virulent proponents of sourcing, but this distorts the deletion process. Epeefleche fails to understand this. Perhaps you can help, unless, of course, you think I'm offbase.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 19:19, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Just downloaded the article "A New Jewish Elite: Curators, Directors, and Benefactors of American Art Museums" out of interest. It mentions Beckett only once in passing, saying "Most recently, the English Benedictine, Sister Wendy Beckett, has captivated television audiences with her passionate exegeses on European painting." Not sure why we need this journal cite in the lead in the circumstances, since it really says nothing very important about her. It lends a spurious authority to the opening sentence and appears to only have been included because you noticed the name of Wendy Beckett in an academic journal, a rare occurrence I agree, but not one that we have to note in the article. Philafrenzy ( talk) 21:57, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi Drmies, I'm coming to you with this because you are somewhat familiar with the situation. If there is a more appropriate Admin to address, please let me know and accept my apologies for dragging you into this any further. Lightbreather came back from her stated vacation over the weekend and one of the things I noticed was posting the {{Discretionary sanctions}} tag on many of the gun related article she has edited. This, in and of itself, is not a problem, but she has restarted her onslaught (and I feel that is an appropriate use of the word) of edits so the posting of the tag seems IMO more like an intentional gesture of some kind.
The crux of my issue is her absolute insistence on certain or specific detail (and its wording) in articles. She's at 4RR for this particular edit [33]. I have the same contention with this edit [34] that she and I have gone back and forth regarding. You have made edits/comments regarding her use of excessive, unnecessary, or questionable (at least) detail [35].
Like you, I am not a fan of ANI or many other formal procedures, but it seems like LB is on a mission. What it is, I'm not exactly sure, but she's openly stated some indication of it here and here (that I know of) where she makes statements like, "...my observation is that I am the only "pro-control" editor here...".
Speaking of formal procedures, I'd been forced to learn more about them and be involved via Lightbreather more in the last 6 months than my entire time on Wikipedia. And its gotten worse since the topic ban on gun articles was imposed on several core editors recently. It's like she learns of a new process and can't wait to try it out on an article or the next person that disagrees with her. You had recent exposure to this here.
I'm very much in favor of providing balance to an article, but LBs interpretation of "balance" seems to be very different the rest of the WP community. Your thoughts? -- Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... ( talk) 16:38, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm sorry, this is probably less than you came here for, but I don't feel so great today and I'd rather not get in too deep in a matter where any judgment might have severe consequences. After all, a topic ban for seriously disruptive behavior is a possibility; I'm not ready for that yet (not 'cause it's LB--for anyone). With apologies, Drmies ( talk) 17:18, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that you created Why Have There Been No Great Women Artists? Do you feel strongly that the page should exist, and not as a redirect to Linda_Nochlin#Women_in_art? I appreciate your input. Zeus u| c 18:26, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
The situation is disappointing. I hope, should he (?) choose to return again, it is done without a return to the disruptive elements you outlined. All the best, JoeSperrazza ( talk) 19:00, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Leave it or pursue a proper close? I had a case opened on AN/I and that is now moved to the archives ( [36]). I have the idea that Dmatteng got the message through that he is horrible annoying and that he better could take a walk in the park. But still it leaves me a bit confused what to do now. The Banner talk 09:37, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Totoytr's now blocked on Commons. Are there any others that need fighting? See Commons:COM:AN/U. Nyttend ( talk) 21:02, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Of your NPOV nature, Drmies - take a look at The Feminine Mystique, which is sort of the feminist version of Farrel's book that you recently tried to trim. Now, will you do the same trimming of Betty that you attempted at the other place? It wouldn't be out of place to trim it somewhat. The ball is in your court.-- Obi-Wan Kenobi ( talk) 22:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Blurbs chosen by the publisher...are...considered true...and...selective quotation...are sourced...and reflect a neutral point-of-view. -Me, as quoted back in February. __ E L A Q U E A T E 00:51, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
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I don't put people in their place, I contribute to the meshing of ideas :) v/r - T P 02:04, 29 May 2014 (UTC) |
Why is it "The Netherlands"? I don't see "The" in any reference about the name. I found someone insisting that the sentence, "He later traveled to the The Netherlands" was correct because the second "The" was part of the name. Is this like NFL players saying in the introduction that they are from "THE Ohio State University" or are from "Duh Universidy of Awabama, derp"? Bgwhite ( talk) 05:18, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
I was thinking about this thread as I perused the DYK queue, where I found:
While "He later traveled to the The Netherlands" is unequivocally wrong (one would never say "he traveled to the France"), I think that here, "appeared in the The Big Bang Theory episode" would be okay. Of course, I think the best way would be "appeared in the Big Bang Theory episode", but I'm just going to leave it as is. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:04, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
Well, if turkey bacon is a personal attack ( as you said a few years back), how about vegetarian bacon? Which has an article. — Crisco 1492 ( talk) 07:16, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
But I did write it up, right here in 2012 as it were. Despite popular belief among POV pushers, I don't have a COI with every article I contribute to you know ;-) CorporateM ( Talk) 01:35, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Drmies. Seeing as I got involved at Talk:Ian Gow in response to a request by you at WikiProject Ireland, I wonder if I could ask you to intervene as an admin in an issue with another of the contributors, Isabela84. She simply refuses to indent her posts, and to my mind that is messing up the whole procedure. I did it for her here, here, here and here, and when she didn't take the hint, I asked her on her talk page here and here. Her responses (unindented) are here and here, and she's still doing the same thing at Talk:Ian Gow here. Could you possibly just have a quiet word with her, and let her know that it is not kosher? Thanks, Scolaire ( talk) 14:15, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
... someone has left me this message. Could you please check this and Heropanti article? There is an RPP request pending for almost 36 hours here Tito☸ Dutta 17:31, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
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Drmies, would you check to make sure I didn't screw anything up in my first official admin action, granting rollback to Moony22. ( WP:PERM/R) Thanks. Go Phightins ! 01:31, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Maybe Kelapstick disagrees but, yes, these are the kinds of accounts that I'd block too, certainly that Clevergirl. And/or I'm old and grumpy. Drmies ( talk) 12:35, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Emotional mojo - looks pretty spammy to me, but I'm not sure it's quite speedyable. What do you think? Should I prod? Ladyof Shalott 01:50, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
We have List of authors and works on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum (and of course Index Librorum Prohibitorum). What would be the arguments for or against creating Category:Works listed on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum? It seemed very natural when it first occurred to me; sometimes though people object to redundant categories and lists (even if they have different purposes). It is also late and I'm tired, so there may be any number of factors my brain can't think of at the moment. Ladyof Shalott 03:57, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
…or obscure Belgian towns- Uccle, birthplace of Paul Craps (artist) and Jacques Tits; unfortunately Bum Media Groep BVBA is based in Schilde. Xanthomelanoussprog ( talk) 21:08, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
The whole "defining" thing gets tossed about as if it were clear and obvious. I've always found it to be vague and muddy. Ladyof Shalott 19:20, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
A real live situation going on there! No blocks or protection yet, but if 98.174.21.143 adds that crap again, I may have to award my first block as an admin ... hopefully not though. Go Phightins ! 18:23, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
See User talk:Dougweller#User:Akocsg is falsifying information from a reference. I've just taken one of his articles to AfD but haven't yet looked at the issues raised on my talk page. Dougweller ( talk) 07:08, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
Hey, I returned from not-being-able-to-retire to a 20-some link long User:Cyberbot I/AfD report, and found User talk:AjitMD, which currently consists of a lot of random WP:AfD templates. I have no idea what's going on there, and I don't want to do anything to it without some sort of oversight (though not WP:OVERSIGHT, you know what I mean). If it's not too much trouble, could you or any of those TP stalkers out there take a look and advise? Thanks, Ansh 666 03:09, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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This is for your incredible research at the sockpuppet investigation of a certain long-term troublemaker. It must have taken quite a bit of time and was a real subtle case of sockpuppetry, but you nailed it. MezzoMezzo ( talk) 04:28, 1 June 2014 (UTC) |
I come by to see a barrage of notifications that you and Sitush have been mentioning me here, there, and everywhere. How goes? — Spaceman Spiff 07:31, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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— Crisco 1492 ( talk) 21:36, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
You will probably recall that there is an interaction ban in place between myself and Pete/Skyring. Just today he has begun posting in a thread in which I have previously posted. The thread is Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian politics#Should we have election links in leader infoboxes?. The most significant post is here, where he took a position opposed to one I had expressed just 90 minutes earlier.
Now, it's quite possible that he didn't notice my post, and was not attempting to directly contradict me (he didn't address me), so I don't really want to pursue that aspect, but I'm wondering what I can do now. I obviously have noticed his posts in that thread, and I disagree with his view. (This is an unfortunately common occurrence.)
Can I continue to post in that thread? HiLo48 ( talk) 00:13, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Looking at the discussion in question, which is about whether election links should be presented in infoboxes for party leaders, I stated my opinion on that precise matter. Looking at the sole contribution by the other party, he didn't even address the question, let alone hold a contrary opinion. I've noticed several instances over the past few weeks where he has contributed to an article or discussion after I have, but I no complain. -- Pete ( talk) 05:14, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
How are you with articles about folk songs? I was looking back through my old DYKs, and am thinking that " Run, N*****, Run" could probably pass GA with a bit more about how it was treated after the 1930s and an expanded lead. Owing to the, er, sensitive nature of the topic, I don't want to nominate this if it isn't really, really ready. — Crisco 1492 ( talk) 15:29, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Is Austrian Times a reliable source, I am on the fence. It came up at DYK, but I am unsure about the whole editorial oversight problem. Thoughts? -- kelapstick( bainuu) 23:10, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for protecting Borussia Dortmund and other, related articles! Walter Görlitz ( talk) 23:45, 2 June 2014 (UTC) |
Hiya Drmies,
Bit of a strange request coming from me, but I recall from previous chats we've had that you're a bit of an expert when it comes to flagicons and their usage within articles - including when they are to be avoided. I reopened a debate regarding colour coding and the use of flagicons on articles such as United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest, over at the project talk page. There seems to be a lot of people insisting on the use of flagicons for the fact they find them "decorative and colourful". Would you mind having a look at the discussion, and seeing if their opinions are validated. Because I'm almost certain that flagicon-overkill is frowned upon within Wikipedia. Thanks. P.S. Hope you and Mrs Drmeis are doing well. Wes Mᴥuse 23:57, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Is it just because I patrol AN3 so much that it seems to me that everyone's favorite sport at Wikipedia is to argue about the edit warring policy and to change it, sometimes persistently? Apparently, if an editor gets agreement from even one other editor on the change, that's enough to reword a core policy. At present, we have the blind leading the blind.
Perhaps if I slept more, this wouldn't bother me. Maybe if someone sang me lullabyes, I'd close my eyes and drift off, just like children who do it so well. PD is blocked, btw.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 00:06, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
DYK… that five of these cabbages can support 100 sheep and 5 humans? Xanthomelanoussprog ( talk) 07:20, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Were you aware? Regards. Martinevans123 ( talk) 15:24, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Crisco 1492, Yngvadottir, Dougweller--did I order Rever de l'Asie: Exotisme et litterature coloniale aux Indes, en Indochine et en Insulinde for you? Drmies ( talk) 18:42, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Here we have an editor who has been less than 100% helpful and civil in the past post a rather spiteful/hateful comment at A guy saved by Jesus's user page (which I rev-deleted per RD2). What do you think? Go Phightins ! 21:34, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
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Drmies, you say "there is no point in listing the catalog" but at the label's website there is no facility for searching, no alphabetical listing, no reference to release number and no links to the NUMEROUS wiki links. I strongly disagree with you. I have started creating the table because there is no equivalent anywhere online (I looked -- did you?) I realize it may sound like promotion for the label, but I have no connection to the label. The label, on the other hand, has HUNDREDS of links into the main body of Wikipedia. -rcarlberg
Here. That edit has a vague source too. My Wiki energy is getting lower for continuous personal attacks. Tito☸ Dutta 06:20, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi there! Since you're an admin and have posted on the Crime Project page, I figured you'd be a good person to ask. What is the threshold for including allegations of a crime, specifically child molestation? The edit in question is here on an article about a person who died last year. WP:BDP mentions that BLP policies can be extended after death. Frankly, I don't think the sources are good enough to warrant inclusion and I'm not a fan of including allegations at all. But I'm trying to learn where the line is for allegations and rumors of crimes. Your input would be appreciated. Please tag me with {{ U}} or {{ replyto}} to ping me in reply! Thank you! EvergreenFir ( talk) 16:34, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
I have the idea that I murder this draft when I launch it this state (except some polishing to do): User:The Banner/Workpage18. Should I put it in the fridge for a while, till I find more sources? The Banner talk 19:46, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
I thought this post of mine was pretty good quality. Could you please tell me why you disagreed? Useitorloseit ( talk) 22:25, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
"I want to make sure it's clear to the powers that be that there was a legitimate split over consensus, and that very few people actually joined in. My last 2 edits 40 41, which were different, had a combined total of only 6 editors who commented, and they split 3-3. Aside from those 6 editors, NONE of the people in the current survey had EVER commented or even participated in the discussions, with the sole exception of Gamaliel (who started this ANI post and who once voted “Opposed – DEADHORSE” with no further comment 42). Again, the idea that discussion has been clearcut is a fiction created by opposing editors. Consensus can only be worked out by good-faith discussion, not repeatedly posting on noticeboards and poisoning the well against people, as has been done here. Several of the survey votes are traceable to noticeboard watchers who’ve seen these complaints raised over and over and are voting based solely on that. I renew my request for the RfC to run its course – the article is untouched and there’s no harm being done. I also believe making false statements on ANI ought to have some consequences."
Thanks 50.131.215.117 ( talk) 02:24, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
I meant to block Drmyes ( talk · contribs), who apparently wants to be you. However, his diabolical plan worked and I managed to momentarily block you. Sorry about that. Acroterion (talk) 02:41, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Drmies had many opportunities to stop the behavior that led to this block. He has only himselves to blame. __ E L A Q U E A T E 02:53, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Geez, dude, can't you keep out of trouble? Blocked again? BMK ( talk) 03:13, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Next time I won't report anything. These events are just too much. :) BTW, we also have the two sock IPs 50.131.215.117 and 76.218.213.203 which took part in these shenanigans. Δρ.Κ. λόγος πράξις 03:21, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Re: SPI: I blocked you for impersonating yourself, not for sockpuppetry, please try to keep it straight. Note to Yatzhek: that is meant to be humor, the block was accidental Acroterion (talk) 17:20, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
( talk page stalker) Just sitting on the side line, watching the fireworks. Blocked and reported to SPI, all in a day's work. Well done. I've been accidentally blocked too, by JamesBWatson for a minute because there were too many Thomases and he picked the wrong one, but I can't recall ever having been reported as a sockpuppet/sockpuppeteer. Thomas.W talk 17:34, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Now at AN3. Dougweller ( talk) 16:06, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
You've answered yourself. Yatzhek ( talk) 16:53, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi, your review is incomplete. Please see note on DYK template. Yoninah ( talk) 16:22, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
I understand that edit warring is against Wikipedia rules. Myself and another editor have had an extensive edit war, I understand the consequences of this and would like to know how i should deal with the situation from this point forward? Thank you KaneZolanski ( talk) 17:07, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
I may have inadvertently breached the iban in place between me and the other guy. I have WP:Reference Desk/Miscellaneous on my watchlist - God knows why - and I spotted a question relating to coins. Being a keen member of the local coin collectors' club - their monthly meeting was last night - I jumped in on this one. Scrolling up afterwards, I discovered that this was actually a subsection to a question posed by User:HiLo48. Doubtless he will lodge a complaint with you, so I'll just dive in first and remove my contribution. -- Pete ( talk) 22:45, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
I can't help but notice the discussion below. Without further comment, my position and DB's coincide. -- Pete ( talk) 01:34, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
I've been wondering since I last posted above, in the thread titled "Guidance please", if it would make sense to now drop the interaction ban between myself and Pete/Skyring. I would like to give it a go, maybe on a trial basis? There doesn't seem to be a clear explanation of how to go about it at WP:IBAN. Do you know?
I've been finally triggered into asking about this because Pete seems to again be jumping into a topic I initiated at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous#The cost of low value coins and its sub-thread called "Countries that have done away with coins altogether". I'm willing to assume good faith and not see that as a breach, but it's obvious we have several areas where we both like editing.
So, what's the process, and what do you think of the idea? HiLo48 ( talk) 22:55, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Sadly, I am now forced to agree. That's not a statement about the comments above, but it's obvious that the ban needs to remain. Oh well, I tried. HiLo48 ( talk) 02:37, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Here is your chance to add to the glorious Category:Hashtags, #PrayforMoncton. -- kelapstick( bainuu) 23:37, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
[1]? Is it an invention? Is the Christmas tree an invention? An invention is a unique or novel device, method, composition or process. It may be an improvement upon a machine or product, or a new process for creating an object or a result. An invention that achieves a completely unique function or result may be a radical breakthrough. Such works are novel and not obvious to others skilled in the same field. Hafspajen ( talk) 14:19, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
wells are deep subjects... (cue trombone). -- kelapstick( bainuu) 15:50, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Glossary of shapes with metaphorical names Hafspajen ( talk) 15:51, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Could you tell me how and where do I report a legal threat that has been sent using Wikipedia email? The help page suggests to report at ANI, but there I can not post email.
Plus could you check this short paragraph
Adhisaya_Ulagam#Release_and_reception? The film had a poor box office record, the information is sourced by one highly reliable newspaper ToI and another more or less reliable source.
Now they want to remove the entire reception and box office section
Tito☸
Dutta 18:28, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
This article came in via AFC this evening about the man who might well have pioneered the concept of sex with a hoover, and I'm sure one of you lot can help improve it. There's some content on Google Books that can be used. I'd love to help, but I've got to break up a fight between two children upstairs. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:50, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Remember that IP editor from Chile who responds with abuse every time there is a content dispute? User talk:200.104.245.226 may jog your memory. Just a heads up, he is back [2]. W C M email 09:12, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, but them's the shakes. You know I like to shoot straight, and I give no advantage to either party--not to you because you're registered, not to them because I think they have a good point. Thank you, and good luck, Drmies ( talk) 14:55, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Would you mind reminding our IP friend not to disrupt talk pages by interleaving his comments in mine please. I would do it but on past performance he'll simply get abusive. W C M email 07:53, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
And again, this is getting decidedly ridiculous, he is separating the comment from he post that spawned it, now you can't follow the discussion and no I won't revert again. I should really but I don't want a block from you for revert warring even that restoring talk pages is one of the exceptions. W C M email 20:40, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Drmies, can I ask for you to double check my translations of the Dutch quotes at Soeara Berbisa? — Crisco 1492 ( talk) 09:48, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello Dr. The other day you blocked DHalilialbania201197 indefinitely for being a sock of Denis Halili, created and used in order to avoid scrutiny, and previous warnings. Today a new obvious sock popped up, Denis20Halili01 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), adding the exact same unsourced material to the exact same articles. So I thought you might to whack both the new sock and the until now unblocked master. I could file an SPI, but a), it would most probably take several days (not for me to file it but for someone to look at it), and b), the socking is so obvious here that it doesn't take much of an investigation to see that they're one and the same... Thomas.W talk 13:45, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
I happened to read your comments on an RM for the Assault Weapons Legislation article. Very thorough, very methodical, very clear. That is some first-rate admin-ing.
I left a reply to you on the Assault weapons legislation in the United States talk page. It begins, "No problem." I am typing this on my phone's little touch pad. Will be gone one week but will check in as able... most likely this way unless son lets me take his notebook computer. Will you please help me keep an eye on that discussion while I'm gone? I'll be back May 26. Lightbreather ( talk) 15:03, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
The tag compared to the is priceless...-- kelapstick( bainuu) 18:25, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Drmies, Launchballer has suggested a new hook after you told him the original one was uninteresting. Can you please take a look at it? Many thanks.
PS: Apologies for not doing anything with the Poklonskaya nom, but I think it's sufficiently controversial that it should be closed by an admin who's familiar with DYK, and I am not an admin (nor do I want to be). BlueMoonset ( talk) 03:38, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Back to the original topic: there's now a new ALT for the "I Got U" DYK nom, if you're willing to dive in again. Thanks. BlueMoonset ( talk) 14:48, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Picture description. A miraculous intervention (1182) by the Virgin Mary in saving the life of the 12th century Portuguese knight Dom Fuas Roupinho, possibly a templar, while he was hunting deer one foggy early morning. Beside the chapel, on a protuberant rock 110 meters above the Atlantic, one can still see the mark made in the rock by one of the hands of Dom Fuas horse.
In memory of the miracle he had a chapel ( Capela da Memória) built over the small grotto, where the miraculous statue had been left (c.715) by king Roderic after the monk's death. The first church in O Sítio, was built over the grotto Hafspajen ( talk) 14:04, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
OK Hafspajen, we have work to do, all of us, including Always Learning, and of course Yngvadottir. AL, can you have a look at the Portuguese article pt:Pederneira (Nazaré), to see if it has any quality at all and if it's worth translating--I think, after some Googling, that it has notability. In that case, part of the history needs to split off from Nazaré, Portugal, because the church, for instance, properly belongs to Pederneira. In addition, AL, I'd like for you to look at this here to see if it appears accurate and somewhat in line with the pt-wiki Pederneira article. For instance, I need to know if the Alcoa river in that source is indeed the Alcoa River. It would be nice to get a map, too--I have a hunch that the Pederneira Bay, if indeed it is still called that way, is an important geographical feature and it might be nice to look at. (The Portuguese articles don't have anything.) And I wonder if Sítio needs an article, but maybe that's of later concern (see pt:Sítio da Nazaré). Besides there are associated articles: I know that Candleabracadabra could have a field day with something like pt:Elevador da Nazaré.
Alright. AL, we could really use your help here. Let's see if we can put this town and area on the map properly. Bishonen, do you know a mapmaker on the English wiki, or should I try the Graphics Workshop again? Drmies ( talk) 21:36, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
1 - PT:WIKI entry of the Pederneira neigbourhood seems tidied up and written in neutral language, has no refs though; 2 - Yes it is the same river, 100% positive. I profit from the opportunity to say i'll be leaving WP for good after the 2014 FIFA World Cup, this time no turning back, i'm not having fun (no way, quite the contrary) anymore, for quite some time.
Wish i could have been of more help, happy week to Mies and everyone that participated in this exchange. -- AL ( talk) 00:55, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
List of Toy Story characters ...eh. Hafspajen ( talk) 16:34, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
I was unable to move the draft back to the article title so a history merge or admin intervention is needed. I have taken the article to a deletion discussion so the community can weigh in on how best to handle the subject. Given your interest in the dispute over Hawaiian foods I am letting you know so that you can provide whatever assistance is needed. Thanks. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 17:09, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Drmies. I had previously moved this cut and paste pastiche from Hawaii-related articles into draft space with this rationale. Please notice, Candleabracadabra did not reply to that discussion, but instead copypasted the draft space article into the redirect and nominated it for deletion to clean up the page history. Once again, Candleabracadabra refuses to engage in a discussion about problems with his edits. I think the article should be moved back to draft space or his personal sandbox, as it is not ready for mainspace. It is simply a duplicate fork of the cuisine of Hawaii article, most of which has nothing to do with Native Hawaiian cuisine. I have temporarily remedied that problem by removing it, but Candleabracadabra is continuing to add too many images and surround the text, even after this problem has been pointed out to him several times in multiple discussions on article talk pages and his user talk page. There appears to be a serious competency issue at work here that goes beyond any simple content dispute. Viriditas ( talk) 21:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
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Sadie the black Labrador Retriever... Hafspajen ( talk) 17:09, 18 May 2014 (UTC) |
Hello Dr. Since you seem to be online I thought I'd post here too, in addition to the report I filed at WP:UAA. Could you please block
BilCat litter (
talk ·
contribs ·
deleted contribs ·
nuke contribs ·
logs ·
filter log ·
block user ·
block log)? They're impersonating/targetting user
BilCat (see contributions).
Thomas.W
talk 20:27, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Can nothing be done about Scalhotrod's and his ownership issue with the Assault weapons ban page? In addition to moving it unilaterally without discussion, he is now removing as many instances of the word ban as he can get away with. Aren't these articles under discretionary sanction? Isn't what he's doing completely contrary to those. Please, please help. I'm on vacation for a week and losing weeks and weeks of work. All I have to work from is my phone. Please help. This can't possibly be acceptable behavior. He's also scrubbed all but one instance of the word ban from the Roberti-Rooms article. Please help. Lightbreather ( talk) 22:36, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
In addition to being on a mission to wipe out as many uses of "assault weapons ban" as possible, he also is unilaterally removing "high-capacity magazine" wherever he can. No discussion. No matter how well sourced or how long they've been part of the lexicon... these terms must not be used on WP (according to Scal's and a half-dozen other editors. They have battled editors over this (not just me) for years. Here's the latest: [6] Lightbreather ( talk) 23:40, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Should this page be a disambiguation? It seems to me that cassava is the main subject. The only other yuca subject is a redlink. And a hatnote link can be kept to Yuca (disambiguation) for the yucca subjects. Clearly my process and procedure knowledge is insufficient to know how to process this kind of housekeeping and I've already disappointed Kelapstick once today. If it's too much to handle or involves lots of acronyms we can just let it go. There is only so much Wiki knowledge I can acquire in one day. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 00:27, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Moving along. Drmies ( talk) |
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If you want to discuss this it probably deserves it's own section. Please assume good faith. I am also not sure Drmies will appreciate this discussion taking place on his talk page. But be that as it may, creating an article on the associate professor whose writing's have been the subject of some controversy seemed to me a reasonable outcome given that the AfD close did not work out and the merge was reverted (per what I read on the revdel or whatever the wp:refund Wikispeak is for that subject. I guess I would simply close by saying that I have no objection to moving this discussion to the article talk page or to anyone initiating a deletion discussion for the new article or to any other action that is carried out with respect and consideration and without any attacks or assumptions of bad faith. Discussion is probably the best first step and I always think it strange that it isn't more common as a first step on Wikipedia. That said, as I've noted, this may not be the best place. We have to be respectful of the various sensitivities of our editing community and to whatever disabilities, challenges, or obstacles they may or may not face. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 02:16, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
HERE is the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Involuntary celibacy (2nd nomination), and here redirect [8], and article created. Hafspajen ( talk) 02:49, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
There was a community process, and what you do is against broader community consensus. This is disrespecting the consensus. Hafspajen ( talk) 03:00, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
(od)Thanks!- seems okay to me (apart from the term "incel" (used in the Guardian piece), which sounds like it comes from the same lexicon as "susper" and "misper". Xanthomelanoussprog ( talk) 10:07, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
a favorite of Theodore Roosevelt:
Yabba dabba doo - Scooby Candleabracadabra ( talk) 18:16, 19 May 2014 (UTC) |
Thanks for the cuddly moment!
No, no job at the present time, neither good nor bad. Just feeling soooooooooo tired, wiki-tired and overall-tired...
Cheers mate, happy week -- AL ( talk) 16:04, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
He's back: Denis20halili04 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), with the same totally unsourced fantasy edits. Thomas.W talk 16:32, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Dearest Drmies, per your interest in the Native Hawaiian cuisine saga, I wonder if you can help sort out what happened to the history of the Native Hawaiian cuisine article? After Kelapstick closed the previous AfD discussion as speedy keep the article was moved into my userspace (something along the lines of user:User:Candleabracadabra/Native Hawaiian cuisine) then moved again. I think those pages have now been deleted as implausible redirects. Anyway, the history has been lost. It shows the first edit as one where I added some content from the parent article (you'll notice that the new article indicator doesn't show up). This is very strange indeed and I'm not sure quite how it happened? Perhaps you can get Viriditas to help you sort out where it went? I really have no idea. I thought that redirecting an article after a deletion discussion was closed as "Speedy Keep" was considered disruptive, but Wikipedia is a wonder of neverending surprises, not all of them pleasant. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 17:39, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Interestingly I found a discussion from 2012 where the discussion was closed as a consensus to have two distinct articles. I wasn't involved in that discussion or your admin nom, so I'm definitely not to blame for those outcomes if they were incorrect. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 18:30, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm looking for the edits prior to my work on the article. My recollection is that Native Hawaiian cuisine was a redirect to Cuisine of Hawaii. But underneath that redirect there were edits. It had, apparently been a disputed issue in the past (archive 2 on the Cuisine of Hawaii talk page). Consensus was closed to create two article. But anyway, back to the point, I was just trying to trace what the heck happened, I can't figure out what happened to the edits underneath what was a redirect? Redirecting an article after a deletion discussion closed as speedy keep and when there was already consensus on the article talk page 2-1 is gamesmanship. Where this mysterious lost history has gone I don't know, but it's a big time waster. That's what gamesmanship attempts to achieve after all, disruption. That's why intervention was needed. Sadly, there was mostly bullshit. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 19:09, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Maybe I'm completely wrong. I guess I must be confusing Hawaii regional cuisine with Native Hawaiia cuisine. This whole thing has been so freaking exhausting and neverending I don't know what's what any more. Apologies. I can only keep track of so many moves and redirect and other disruptions and speedy keeps and afds. It's a freaking exhausting game. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 19:16, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
I hope this helps. -- kelapstick( bainuu) 19:50, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
The yuca page over the previous disambig looks good to me. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 21:28, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi Drmies. I have not at all followed what this is all about. But you have blocked Candleabracadabra with a statement that it is a "temporary" block, while in fact it seems to be an indefinite block. It seems to me that your providing a duration--presumably short--for the block is necessary, else it is not temporary. I'll say also that I have found Candleabracadabra to be helpful and cooperative and a good collaborator on topics that we've both edited on, so I am a bit concerned about what's gone on (really i have no idea of fault or anything), and hope it is not really endangering of C's ability to continue contributing. -- do ncr am 01:12, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Your comment reminds me of two things Drmies:
-- kelapstick( on the run) 00:32, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
What barney said deserved a block. If anyone did the same thing concerning gender, sexuality, or race a block would be a knee-jerk reaction. When an editor blatantly demeans the beliefs of 2 billion people, more if you consider other Abrahamic religions, that likewise deserves a block.--v/r - T P 17:18, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
If you are curious, Celestra was the project name of a software project I really enjoyed some years ago. That user name has confused several people over the years, but I think no one will claim this new one is false advertising. Older and ... well older ( talk) 21:02, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
You're a Dutch speaker. Can you please confirm that TwoHorned's allegation that Elst is involved in "astrological milieux and "workgroups"" is wrong. See this and this . Thanks for your help. -- Calypsomusic ( talk) 13:22, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
So you protected Elst because of the dispute between these two, but they've now added René Guénon to their battlefield - care to take a look? Nikkimaria ( talk) 15:09, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
I think you will have to manually inform anyone you tried to ping at SPI, I did not get a notification when you linked my name. -- kelapstick( bainuu) 20:05, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Note that the post containing a link to a userpage must be signed; if the edit does not add a new signature to the page, no notification will be sent.
I noticed that you were involved in an AfD discussion back in 2009 on Connie_Bea_Hope. There are some odd things about that article in addition to the apparent lack of notability. It goes into strange, unsourced details about the subject's life and that of their descendents that would be strange content for published sources. For example, at one point it mentioned that a great-grandchild was a 1L in law school. Further, most of the substantive editing in that article has been done by IPs and SPAs. The SPAs tend to have no user pages, an interest in Mobile, and Italian-sounding names with a four or five digit series of successive numbers at the end of them. One engaged you in debate over notability during the AfD. To add further interest, one of the users that argued for keeping the article was later blocked for sockpuppeting (ChildofMidnight). Should it be nominated again for deletion? Geogene ( talk) 21:16, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Geogene, it's done. Maybe you can have a look and see what can be merged? Drmies ( talk) 01:19, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
Over at Mitsubishi Magna we are still having revert issues as blocked user User:MundusEditus has found new IP addresses to edit from, firstly User:108.60.134.187, then User:152.91.9.115. Can you please weight in with this again? It is very frustrating. OSX ( talk • contributions) 22:37, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Wenger256. I closed the ANI discussion. Couldn't resist some mild sarcasm in my close.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 00:56, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
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— Crisco 1492 ( talk) 12:34, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Hey, I liked that infobox! [18]. This is one of the few examples when an infobox gives the article pondus, weight. A tiny little article like this looks MUCH better with an infobox. Why remove that? [19] Hafspajen ( talk) 00:58, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Hey, I have this great idea that we should start a new fabulous article called Saints in pink robe . And this new interesting article later we can nominate on DYK ... Good, no? I am good, right? Hafspajen ( talk) 14:29, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Taking all aspects of purple’s past and present into consideration, purple symbolizes magic, mystery, spirituality, the sub-conscious, creativity, dignity, royalty – and it evokes all of these meanings more so than any other color.
Variations of purple convey different meanings: Light purples are light-hearted, floral, and romantic. The dark shades are more intellectual and dignified.
The negative meanings of purple are decadence, conceit, and pomposity Among Mediterranean people, purple was reserved for emperors and popes. The Japanese christened it “Imperial Purple”. In Italy most performing artists would not go on stage if they have to wear anything purple. And Deep Purple is...deep purple, Xanty . Haffy ( talk) 15:54, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Most interesting, Xanty. Another poor artist needing attention... Remember, study not pornography.. Hafspajen ( talk) 18:35, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
I have concerns regarding the use of op-eds and primary sources for contentious material about this BLP.
The relevant BLPN string is here.
I have put together a proposed starting point for a more proper article here
I believe there is a general consensus so far that the article needs to head more in the direction of the proposed draft.
I have a WP:COI. I've been pinging a few people because I feel the BLP issues are severe enough to warrant prompt attention. Then I thought of you, as you have always been responsive to such issues.
I believe everyone is acting in good faith and being very civil. Just need a couple bold editors involved that are familiar with BLP rules/pages as it is not proper for an editor with a COI to remove poorly sourced contentous material themselves. CorporateM ( Talk) 15:52, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm off to bed. Would you please take a look at this talk page, which an IP (or 2 IPs) keep refactoring - the last time removed an editor's comment, possibly by mistake but that's on reason not to refactor. Look at User talk:Dougweller#IP 92.234.25.254 for context. The IP addresses are on different continents though. Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 20:54, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Jan Mankes need help to translate captions. Please.
Hafspajen (
talk) 22:27, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Hafspajen (
talk) 22:53, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
...........I think he was a very promising young artist. We should try to find more of his pictures. [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] Hafspajen ( talk) 00:41, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
You and Banner fix the text, right. And then we have place to put pictures. The text under the pictures is still in Dutch, e.g. capions Hafspajen ( talk) 01:02, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Let's make {commons|Category:Paintings of women sitting on rocks indoors}} too. Hafspajen ( talk) 02:17, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
If you feel like taking a look at this and offering your views, that'd be good. Hope you're preparing a fun-filled holiday weekend.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 00:19, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
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Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 01:58, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi Drmies, I'd like to draw your attention to this blocked user's misuse of their talk page privilege. Since you issued the block in the first place, I thought you'd like to be aware of it. M. Caecilius ( talk) 10:53, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
You may remember a while back there was a problem at Fleetwood Mac discography where two other editors and I were arguing about various issues. You protected the article and warned us. We discussed it all and fixed the article. No problem. I then had some issues with User:Lukejordan02 with AC/DC discography and we eventually sorted that out too. I have tried really hard to work with this guy despite being called an idiot [25]. Now he is causing further trouble at Thin Lizzy discography and I am out of patience. Here's the history [26]. He made edits which removed huge sections of the discography with no discussion and no good reason, so I reverted him. I then incorporated the good parts of his edits back into the page, and made other edits along the same lines. He said he was happy with most of that and with what I planned to do next [27]. We then disagreed over one minor point and he then reverted everything I'd done. I refuse to edit war with this guy, but he is impossible to work with. He has edit warred with other editors at John Entwistle discography, Roger Daltrey discography and makes massive deletions with no discussion [28]. What do I do? Bretonbanquet ( talk) 16:22, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Lukejordan02 has done a lot of genre fiddling on Thin Lizzy articles with zero discussion. I'd revert anyone else, but I don't feel I'm in the best position to do that. What do you think? Bretonbanquet ( talk) 23:24, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Drmies: If you have the time (and I feel guilty even requesting, because I know how much you do), could you check over my postings both at Talk:List of women art historians and the AFD for same, and let me know if there's anyplace where I did anything that you feel is egregious? Obviously, I did things that were imperfect, mainly my imperfect search for materials on the topic, but I was actually walking on eggshells from the start of my involvement, starting with discussion rather than tagging. It would be easy to slough off the criticism that I have faced, due to the rather shrill nature of some of the voices involved... but if that's blinding me to some obvious major faux pas, I'd want to know. You're someone with a clear sense of Wikipedia and its practices and not accusable of being antifeminist, so I would value you're insight. (If you would rather not involve yourself, believe me, I understand. You owe me nothing.) -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 00:17, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
When I was a young penis-bearer, many decades ago, things were much simpler. In those days, apparently, it was acceptable to pat waitresses on the bottom and call them "darling" (well, not the English word, in my case). Humans were by definition "men", and singular they hadn't been invented. Simpler, but not better. These complications, where you have to think about words before you use them and you cain't even crack a goddamn joke about blondes and all that, they're good: they progress us. Like the possibility (not in my state) of gay marriage progresses my own marriage (of, as it happens, the non-gay kind). This is all good. Not simple, but we were wrong (like the generation of my parents was) to think that life was simple. So yeah, 100 years from now a current list of women art historians may not be very encyclopedic, but for now it is--that is, if I can work on that lead some more and prove it. Drmies ( talk) 02:55, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi Drmies, hope everything is going well. If you remember, some months back, I sought your help to tackle vandalisms by User:Ricose in the article Joya Ahsan. He's back again and this time it's Hridoy Khan where he's removing the image and deleting the references [29], [30], [31] He raised a concern that the birth year is false, but there's is a source which says the artiste was 17 in 2008, that makes his birth year 1990-91. I have started a thread in the talk page but he continues to remove the references and making other errors.-- Zayeem (talk) 07:22, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
was the BEST verion, in my view, balanced, kicking out the wrong sources, taking the right tone, better than my version or anybody else's, for that matter. I respect quality Wikipedians. Right now, it's once again morphed into a puff piece, but I will continue to see your take as the benchmark version by which all subsequent versions should be judged.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 20:24, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
If you're really disposed to nominate me for adminship, as intimated in this edit, I'm willing (though I'm certainly not Barkis) to accept, but I think you'll need to create a page at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Deor, including the text of your nomination, where I'll answer the standard questions, so that then it can be transcluded to the WP:AFD page. See Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Nominate. Deor ( talk) 21:00, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose, nominator doesn't know how to set up an RFA page
and Jesus cries. Would you like me to tell you all about it, or would you like me to just do it? --
Floquenbeam (
talk) 18:45, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
See here. The sequence of events is (1) delete unsourced material that might otherwise be significant enough to withstand an A7; (2) immediately tag the article as an A7. God knows I'm one of the more virulent proponents of sourcing, but this distorts the deletion process. Epeefleche fails to understand this. Perhaps you can help, unless, of course, you think I'm offbase.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 19:19, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Just downloaded the article "A New Jewish Elite: Curators, Directors, and Benefactors of American Art Museums" out of interest. It mentions Beckett only once in passing, saying "Most recently, the English Benedictine, Sister Wendy Beckett, has captivated television audiences with her passionate exegeses on European painting." Not sure why we need this journal cite in the lead in the circumstances, since it really says nothing very important about her. It lends a spurious authority to the opening sentence and appears to only have been included because you noticed the name of Wendy Beckett in an academic journal, a rare occurrence I agree, but not one that we have to note in the article. Philafrenzy ( talk) 21:57, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi Drmies, I'm coming to you with this because you are somewhat familiar with the situation. If there is a more appropriate Admin to address, please let me know and accept my apologies for dragging you into this any further. Lightbreather came back from her stated vacation over the weekend and one of the things I noticed was posting the {{Discretionary sanctions}} tag on many of the gun related article she has edited. This, in and of itself, is not a problem, but she has restarted her onslaught (and I feel that is an appropriate use of the word) of edits so the posting of the tag seems IMO more like an intentional gesture of some kind.
The crux of my issue is her absolute insistence on certain or specific detail (and its wording) in articles. She's at 4RR for this particular edit [33]. I have the same contention with this edit [34] that she and I have gone back and forth regarding. You have made edits/comments regarding her use of excessive, unnecessary, or questionable (at least) detail [35].
Like you, I am not a fan of ANI or many other formal procedures, but it seems like LB is on a mission. What it is, I'm not exactly sure, but she's openly stated some indication of it here and here (that I know of) where she makes statements like, "...my observation is that I am the only "pro-control" editor here...".
Speaking of formal procedures, I'd been forced to learn more about them and be involved via Lightbreather more in the last 6 months than my entire time on Wikipedia. And its gotten worse since the topic ban on gun articles was imposed on several core editors recently. It's like she learns of a new process and can't wait to try it out on an article or the next person that disagrees with her. You had recent exposure to this here.
I'm very much in favor of providing balance to an article, but LBs interpretation of "balance" seems to be very different the rest of the WP community. Your thoughts? -- Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... ( talk) 16:38, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm sorry, this is probably less than you came here for, but I don't feel so great today and I'd rather not get in too deep in a matter where any judgment might have severe consequences. After all, a topic ban for seriously disruptive behavior is a possibility; I'm not ready for that yet (not 'cause it's LB--for anyone). With apologies, Drmies ( talk) 17:18, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that you created Why Have There Been No Great Women Artists? Do you feel strongly that the page should exist, and not as a redirect to Linda_Nochlin#Women_in_art? I appreciate your input. Zeus u| c 18:26, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
The situation is disappointing. I hope, should he (?) choose to return again, it is done without a return to the disruptive elements you outlined. All the best, JoeSperrazza ( talk) 19:00, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Leave it or pursue a proper close? I had a case opened on AN/I and that is now moved to the archives ( [36]). I have the idea that Dmatteng got the message through that he is horrible annoying and that he better could take a walk in the park. But still it leaves me a bit confused what to do now. The Banner talk 09:37, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Totoytr's now blocked on Commons. Are there any others that need fighting? See Commons:COM:AN/U. Nyttend ( talk) 21:02, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Of your NPOV nature, Drmies - take a look at The Feminine Mystique, which is sort of the feminist version of Farrel's book that you recently tried to trim. Now, will you do the same trimming of Betty that you attempted at the other place? It wouldn't be out of place to trim it somewhat. The ball is in your court.-- Obi-Wan Kenobi ( talk) 22:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Blurbs chosen by the publisher...are...considered true...and...selective quotation...are sourced...and reflect a neutral point-of-view. -Me, as quoted back in February. __ E L A Q U E A T E 00:51, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
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I don't put people in their place, I contribute to the meshing of ideas :) v/r - T P 02:04, 29 May 2014 (UTC) |
Why is it "The Netherlands"? I don't see "The" in any reference about the name. I found someone insisting that the sentence, "He later traveled to the The Netherlands" was correct because the second "The" was part of the name. Is this like NFL players saying in the introduction that they are from "THE Ohio State University" or are from "Duh Universidy of Awabama, derp"? Bgwhite ( talk) 05:18, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
I was thinking about this thread as I perused the DYK queue, where I found:
While "He later traveled to the The Netherlands" is unequivocally wrong (one would never say "he traveled to the France"), I think that here, "appeared in the The Big Bang Theory episode" would be okay. Of course, I think the best way would be "appeared in the Big Bang Theory episode", but I'm just going to leave it as is. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:04, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
Well, if turkey bacon is a personal attack ( as you said a few years back), how about vegetarian bacon? Which has an article. — Crisco 1492 ( talk) 07:16, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
But I did write it up, right here in 2012 as it were. Despite popular belief among POV pushers, I don't have a COI with every article I contribute to you know ;-) CorporateM ( Talk) 01:35, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Drmies. Seeing as I got involved at Talk:Ian Gow in response to a request by you at WikiProject Ireland, I wonder if I could ask you to intervene as an admin in an issue with another of the contributors, Isabela84. She simply refuses to indent her posts, and to my mind that is messing up the whole procedure. I did it for her here, here, here and here, and when she didn't take the hint, I asked her on her talk page here and here. Her responses (unindented) are here and here, and she's still doing the same thing at Talk:Ian Gow here. Could you possibly just have a quiet word with her, and let her know that it is not kosher? Thanks, Scolaire ( talk) 14:15, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
... someone has left me this message. Could you please check this and Heropanti article? There is an RPP request pending for almost 36 hours here Tito☸ Dutta 17:31, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
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talk) 18:05, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
Jackmcbarn ( talk) 20:29, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
Drmies, would you check to make sure I didn't screw anything up in my first official admin action, granting rollback to Moony22. ( WP:PERM/R) Thanks. Go Phightins ! 01:31, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Maybe Kelapstick disagrees but, yes, these are the kinds of accounts that I'd block too, certainly that Clevergirl. And/or I'm old and grumpy. Drmies ( talk) 12:35, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Emotional mojo - looks pretty spammy to me, but I'm not sure it's quite speedyable. What do you think? Should I prod? Ladyof Shalott 01:50, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
We have List of authors and works on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum (and of course Index Librorum Prohibitorum). What would be the arguments for or against creating Category:Works listed on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum? It seemed very natural when it first occurred to me; sometimes though people object to redundant categories and lists (even if they have different purposes). It is also late and I'm tired, so there may be any number of factors my brain can't think of at the moment. Ladyof Shalott 03:57, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
…or obscure Belgian towns- Uccle, birthplace of Paul Craps (artist) and Jacques Tits; unfortunately Bum Media Groep BVBA is based in Schilde. Xanthomelanoussprog ( talk) 21:08, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
The whole "defining" thing gets tossed about as if it were clear and obvious. I've always found it to be vague and muddy. Ladyof Shalott 19:20, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
A real live situation going on there! No blocks or protection yet, but if 98.174.21.143 adds that crap again, I may have to award my first block as an admin ... hopefully not though. Go Phightins ! 18:23, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
See User talk:Dougweller#User:Akocsg is falsifying information from a reference. I've just taken one of his articles to AfD but haven't yet looked at the issues raised on my talk page. Dougweller ( talk) 07:08, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
Hey, I returned from not-being-able-to-retire to a 20-some link long User:Cyberbot I/AfD report, and found User talk:AjitMD, which currently consists of a lot of random WP:AfD templates. I have no idea what's going on there, and I don't want to do anything to it without some sort of oversight (though not WP:OVERSIGHT, you know what I mean). If it's not too much trouble, could you or any of those TP stalkers out there take a look and advise? Thanks, Ansh 666 03:09, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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This is for your incredible research at the sockpuppet investigation of a certain long-term troublemaker. It must have taken quite a bit of time and was a real subtle case of sockpuppetry, but you nailed it. MezzoMezzo ( talk) 04:28, 1 June 2014 (UTC) |
I come by to see a barrage of notifications that you and Sitush have been mentioning me here, there, and everywhere. How goes? — Spaceman Spiff 07:31, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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— Crisco 1492 ( talk) 21:36, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
You will probably recall that there is an interaction ban in place between myself and Pete/Skyring. Just today he has begun posting in a thread in which I have previously posted. The thread is Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian politics#Should we have election links in leader infoboxes?. The most significant post is here, where he took a position opposed to one I had expressed just 90 minutes earlier.
Now, it's quite possible that he didn't notice my post, and was not attempting to directly contradict me (he didn't address me), so I don't really want to pursue that aspect, but I'm wondering what I can do now. I obviously have noticed his posts in that thread, and I disagree with his view. (This is an unfortunately common occurrence.)
Can I continue to post in that thread? HiLo48 ( talk) 00:13, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Looking at the discussion in question, which is about whether election links should be presented in infoboxes for party leaders, I stated my opinion on that precise matter. Looking at the sole contribution by the other party, he didn't even address the question, let alone hold a contrary opinion. I've noticed several instances over the past few weeks where he has contributed to an article or discussion after I have, but I no complain. -- Pete ( talk) 05:14, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
How are you with articles about folk songs? I was looking back through my old DYKs, and am thinking that " Run, N*****, Run" could probably pass GA with a bit more about how it was treated after the 1930s and an expanded lead. Owing to the, er, sensitive nature of the topic, I don't want to nominate this if it isn't really, really ready. — Crisco 1492 ( talk) 15:29, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Is Austrian Times a reliable source, I am on the fence. It came up at DYK, but I am unsure about the whole editorial oversight problem. Thoughts? -- kelapstick( bainuu) 23:10, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for protecting Borussia Dortmund and other, related articles! Walter Görlitz ( talk) 23:45, 2 June 2014 (UTC) |
Hiya Drmies,
Bit of a strange request coming from me, but I recall from previous chats we've had that you're a bit of an expert when it comes to flagicons and their usage within articles - including when they are to be avoided. I reopened a debate regarding colour coding and the use of flagicons on articles such as United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest, over at the project talk page. There seems to be a lot of people insisting on the use of flagicons for the fact they find them "decorative and colourful". Would you mind having a look at the discussion, and seeing if their opinions are validated. Because I'm almost certain that flagicon-overkill is frowned upon within Wikipedia. Thanks. P.S. Hope you and Mrs Drmeis are doing well. Wes Mᴥuse 23:57, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Is it just because I patrol AN3 so much that it seems to me that everyone's favorite sport at Wikipedia is to argue about the edit warring policy and to change it, sometimes persistently? Apparently, if an editor gets agreement from even one other editor on the change, that's enough to reword a core policy. At present, we have the blind leading the blind.
Perhaps if I slept more, this wouldn't bother me. Maybe if someone sang me lullabyes, I'd close my eyes and drift off, just like children who do it so well. PD is blocked, btw.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 00:06, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
DYK… that five of these cabbages can support 100 sheep and 5 humans? Xanthomelanoussprog ( talk) 07:20, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Were you aware? Regards. Martinevans123 ( talk) 15:24, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Crisco 1492, Yngvadottir, Dougweller--did I order Rever de l'Asie: Exotisme et litterature coloniale aux Indes, en Indochine et en Insulinde for you? Drmies ( talk) 18:42, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Here we have an editor who has been less than 100% helpful and civil in the past post a rather spiteful/hateful comment at A guy saved by Jesus's user page (which I rev-deleted per RD2). What do you think? Go Phightins ! 21:34, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
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Drmies, you say "there is no point in listing the catalog" but at the label's website there is no facility for searching, no alphabetical listing, no reference to release number and no links to the NUMEROUS wiki links. I strongly disagree with you. I have started creating the table because there is no equivalent anywhere online (I looked -- did you?) I realize it may sound like promotion for the label, but I have no connection to the label. The label, on the other hand, has HUNDREDS of links into the main body of Wikipedia. -rcarlberg
Here. That edit has a vague source too. My Wiki energy is getting lower for continuous personal attacks. Tito☸ Dutta 06:20, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi there! Since you're an admin and have posted on the Crime Project page, I figured you'd be a good person to ask. What is the threshold for including allegations of a crime, specifically child molestation? The edit in question is here on an article about a person who died last year. WP:BDP mentions that BLP policies can be extended after death. Frankly, I don't think the sources are good enough to warrant inclusion and I'm not a fan of including allegations at all. But I'm trying to learn where the line is for allegations and rumors of crimes. Your input would be appreciated. Please tag me with {{ U}} or {{ replyto}} to ping me in reply! Thank you! EvergreenFir ( talk) 16:34, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
I have the idea that I murder this draft when I launch it this state (except some polishing to do): User:The Banner/Workpage18. Should I put it in the fridge for a while, till I find more sources? The Banner talk 19:46, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
I thought this post of mine was pretty good quality. Could you please tell me why you disagreed? Useitorloseit ( talk) 22:25, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
"I want to make sure it's clear to the powers that be that there was a legitimate split over consensus, and that very few people actually joined in. My last 2 edits 40 41, which were different, had a combined total of only 6 editors who commented, and they split 3-3. Aside from those 6 editors, NONE of the people in the current survey had EVER commented or even participated in the discussions, with the sole exception of Gamaliel (who started this ANI post and who once voted “Opposed – DEADHORSE” with no further comment 42). Again, the idea that discussion has been clearcut is a fiction created by opposing editors. Consensus can only be worked out by good-faith discussion, not repeatedly posting on noticeboards and poisoning the well against people, as has been done here. Several of the survey votes are traceable to noticeboard watchers who’ve seen these complaints raised over and over and are voting based solely on that. I renew my request for the RfC to run its course – the article is untouched and there’s no harm being done. I also believe making false statements on ANI ought to have some consequences."
Thanks 50.131.215.117 ( talk) 02:24, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
I meant to block Drmyes ( talk · contribs), who apparently wants to be you. However, his diabolical plan worked and I managed to momentarily block you. Sorry about that. Acroterion (talk) 02:41, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Drmies had many opportunities to stop the behavior that led to this block. He has only himselves to blame. __ E L A Q U E A T E 02:53, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Geez, dude, can't you keep out of trouble? Blocked again? BMK ( talk) 03:13, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Next time I won't report anything. These events are just too much. :) BTW, we also have the two sock IPs 50.131.215.117 and 76.218.213.203 which took part in these shenanigans. Δρ.Κ. λόγος πράξις 03:21, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Re: SPI: I blocked you for impersonating yourself, not for sockpuppetry, please try to keep it straight. Note to Yatzhek: that is meant to be humor, the block was accidental Acroterion (talk) 17:20, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
( talk page stalker) Just sitting on the side line, watching the fireworks. Blocked and reported to SPI, all in a day's work. Well done. I've been accidentally blocked too, by JamesBWatson for a minute because there were too many Thomases and he picked the wrong one, but I can't recall ever having been reported as a sockpuppet/sockpuppeteer. Thomas.W talk 17:34, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Now at AN3. Dougweller ( talk) 16:06, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
You've answered yourself. Yatzhek ( talk) 16:53, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi, your review is incomplete. Please see note on DYK template. Yoninah ( talk) 16:22, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
I understand that edit warring is against Wikipedia rules. Myself and another editor have had an extensive edit war, I understand the consequences of this and would like to know how i should deal with the situation from this point forward? Thank you KaneZolanski ( talk) 17:07, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
I may have inadvertently breached the iban in place between me and the other guy. I have WP:Reference Desk/Miscellaneous on my watchlist - God knows why - and I spotted a question relating to coins. Being a keen member of the local coin collectors' club - their monthly meeting was last night - I jumped in on this one. Scrolling up afterwards, I discovered that this was actually a subsection to a question posed by User:HiLo48. Doubtless he will lodge a complaint with you, so I'll just dive in first and remove my contribution. -- Pete ( talk) 22:45, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
I can't help but notice the discussion below. Without further comment, my position and DB's coincide. -- Pete ( talk) 01:34, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
I've been wondering since I last posted above, in the thread titled "Guidance please", if it would make sense to now drop the interaction ban between myself and Pete/Skyring. I would like to give it a go, maybe on a trial basis? There doesn't seem to be a clear explanation of how to go about it at WP:IBAN. Do you know?
I've been finally triggered into asking about this because Pete seems to again be jumping into a topic I initiated at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous#The cost of low value coins and its sub-thread called "Countries that have done away with coins altogether". I'm willing to assume good faith and not see that as a breach, but it's obvious we have several areas where we both like editing.
So, what's the process, and what do you think of the idea? HiLo48 ( talk) 22:55, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Sadly, I am now forced to agree. That's not a statement about the comments above, but it's obvious that the ban needs to remain. Oh well, I tried. HiLo48 ( talk) 02:37, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Here is your chance to add to the glorious Category:Hashtags, #PrayforMoncton. -- kelapstick( bainuu) 23:37, 6 June 2014 (UTC)