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=) TechOutsider ( talk • contribs) 01:25, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
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put your citation here Pedro thy master ( talk) 20:38, 30 July 2009 (UTC) |
Hope you like it. Pedro thy master ( talk • contribs) 16:30, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
<-- Not at all. In fact, I'm going to give you one of these:
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don't help at all .. it's not the FULL URL. If there are newspaper articles about him - just copy and paste the URL. You haven't really edited the article I put in your sandbox - you haven't given me anything to work with here. I don't know how to help you here. I get the fact that he's a good guy that had a hard life, but that doesn't make him notable from an encyclopedic point of view. Did he write any books on a best sellers list? Did he do something that got media coverage on TV or in the newspapers? I can't do this by myself here. Write in YOUR OWN WORDS what makes him notable. Cheers. — Ched : ? 12:49, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
And here I was thinking you were speaking theoretically! ~ Amory ( user • talk • contribs) 19:02, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Ched do you now something that can correct bad grammer. -- Pedro J. the rookie 22:40, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
wait microsoft word, dosent that only work with spelling. -- Pedro J. the rookie 01:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
I notice that you redirected the protected page Doctor Steel to the newly recreated article at Doctor Steel (band). I've just asked for some guidance on WP:AN regarding the new article and the many, many, many attempts to get the good doctor onto Wikipedia in the past; you may wish to comment, as I mention your redirect in my query. Tony Fox (arf!) 17:06, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Wikiproject: Did you know? 11:15, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Could you fix the formatting of your AfD close? The AfD template should go before the header. Also, you didn't use the standard, "The result was delete." Would you please add that to your close? Thanks, Cunard ( talk) 00:06, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
In reference to your comments that I should "not attempt to judge what is "sub-standard" until" I am "more familiar with" your "policies, guidelines, and established practices". Well, I am quite familiar with Wikipedia's codes of conduct and practise. I've been an active editor for over 12 months and have almost 1,500 edits. Maybe you should familiarise youself with the fifth pillar of Wikipedia: "If the status quo stands in the way, challenge it." ~~ Dr Dec ( Talk) ~~ 00:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
For this. Made my morning. Now off to work... Awickert ( talk) 15:10, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
No problem. I haven't added the guideline tag, because it already has guideline in the title, but feel free to add one if you feel it is needed. However, you may want to work out the "On verification" before you do so. But I think it has wide enough support that it no longer needs to be a proposal, there's certainly no challenge to it. If it weren't tempting fate I'd be inclined to write up my own death page per others. Hiding T 10:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Ched i am try'in to save an artical from becoming a AD, and i was hopeing you could give me some tips on how to save it. -- Pedro J. the rookie 20:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
List of highest paid American television stars Ched. -- Pedro J. the rookie 22:14, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Ched and thanks Kelapstick, for your help. --
Pedro J.
the rookie 14:18, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
The August 2009 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk • contrib) 03:37, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the help!! Erector Euphonious ( talk) 23:11, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Dear colleague, I just want to wish you a happy, hopefully, extended holiday weekend and nice end to summer! Your friend, -- A Nobody My talk 03:13, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for protecting my user page. Sorry the garbage from another website made its way here; I guess some people just couldn't let go. Thanks again. -- MiB-24 ( talk) 02:00, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that you're an administrator, and you have posted on User:ChildofMidnight's talk page. Would you agree that contributions such as this create a hostile and uncivil editing environment (note edit summary)? This could be taken as an effort to "retaliate", for a dispute over a recent edit of his. Maybe I'm out of line, but regardless of whether the content he removed belongs in the article or not, referring to other editors' content as "bullshit puffery" seems to violate civil. MichaelLNorth ( talk) 16:19, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for your kind words. After tomorrow, I doubt I'll have much time anyway to edit as my new job (yes, I got a new job in this market!) requires me to wake up at 4:30 AM - ugh. Frankly, I am horrified at the blatant POV and powers granted to Wikiadmins. I thought these dudes were supposed to be "neutral", silly me. Now I think most of them are completely over the edge! One thing this editing experience has taught me is that Wikipedia should NEVER be allowed as a source for research in schools. NEVER. Regards, ObserverNY ( talk) 23:24, 8 September 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
Yo Ched. Do you follow the goings on here? I have trouble navigating all the project pages (like today I was looking into a COI issue and I couldn't find a link from the on the wp:coi page to the coi noticeboard (turns out it's wp:coin) but anyway, I'm wonder about different outcomes and things. I'd like find someone who can keep me up to date with cliff noted briefings on the major happenings (like those the president gets). For instance, what was the outcome of the Abd v. WMC (mathsci) arbcom proceeding?
And do you do IRC? Are there different rooms for different cabals? Or how does it work? I know the admin cabal has their own room. Is it just one or multiple? I think the cabals should have greek letters.
Anyway, just chewing the cud with you. I guess most people don't even discuss these things on wiki. Too political. Anything you say, can and will be used against you. Better to go to IRC where the logs are secret or Wikipedia Review where the teenagers are too afraid to mess the the smack talkers? :) Fun times.
Is it still racing season now? Has Geoff Gordon won again? Actually his teammate keeps winning right? Why does the track always have to be an oval? That's all for now. Take care. ChildofMidnight ( talk) 06:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
It's VERY much appreciated! Goes to show that I must be doing SOMETHING right here lately - that's my third star in the past 6 days. :) ArcAngel ( talk) 12:44, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Regarding you comment of ChildOfMightnight's page to me. I only saw one editor attempting to add contentious material to the article repeatedly without consensus. When one editor keeps adding something against consensus and multiple editors are removing it then I don't consider those multiple editors to be disruptive. If there is any other form of inappropriate behavior going on then I have not noticed it. I try not to get involved in the content of the debate when I am wearing my admin hat and just try to make sure that the article is not disrupted by edit warring. You are of course welcome to take action of your own if you see anything that does not seem right to you.
In the future it is best to ask such questions on my own talk page as many users have the habit of blanking warnings. Chillum 13:41, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey Ched. I hope things are going better for you now. The big Jets victory should help. :) ChildofMidnight ( talk) 00:01, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Re, your messages. The account, from my small amount of experience in the matter, appears to be that of an axemann8 imposter. I don't know how long ago this was, but around the time Axemann8 was indefinitely blocked, various sockpuppet accounts turned up which had names similar to axemann8. These accounts were of course assumed to be him, but later a check was run, and they were found to be unrelated. This means that someone out there was trying to impersonate axemann8 to get him in trouble. Although various checks have been run to try and pin who did it, they have all come back inconclusive, even though they are obviously related. It is only possible from this information, that the user behind the imposter accounts knows how to skirt around CU, and has done this to keep their primary account hidden. This new account is just another in a long line of disruptive/SPA accounts.— Dæ dαlus Contribs 02:04, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
That would likely be the royal "we", used by that Axmann8 impostor. Thanks to impostors, sometimes it's hard to tell the true socks from the socks of other socks. He should be lashed with a... hey, that reminds me - if we can have an article about a Green Weenie, I don't see why we can't have articles about other satirical foods. Lutefisk, for example. :) Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 02:28, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm guessing that guy went through someone's contribs list (maybe mine) and posted to the first few users he found on it. OK, so the next time I'm about to turn someone in to WP:AIV for obvious socking, harassment, vandalism, etc., should I send it your way instead, if you're online? Then you could knock that softball out of the park and into the wiki-showers. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 03:11, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
If you could use a laugh or two after a long week, here are some Groucho clips I found.
As a guest panelist on "What's My Line?", late 1950s or so
As a guest on "I've Got a Secret", 1959
On the Dick Cavett show, ca. 1969
Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 03:17, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm so sorry to read about your recent losses Ched. You know there's always a channel open if you need one. And Bugs, those were fantastic clips :) — Huntster ( t @ c) 04:37, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey Ched. If you need anything (including a sounding board) let me know. Email is always open too. Have a better weekend. kelapstick ( talk) 04:15, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Ched, it was fun checking out the diffs where you got punked by a Malleus impersonator. :) It's a good thing you stayed cool. You still came off looking good. ChildofMidnight ( talk) 16:43, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Look, I'm being a bit of a drama queen here. Bad week, and I apologize for bringing it "on-wiki". No big deal. There are a LOT of folks out there that suffer much worse every day. I am truly grateful for the the kind words and support ... I promise ... I'll focus on content. ;) Onward and upward. — Ched : ? 05:00, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
Your continued joking is disruptive and considered
vandalism. You will be
blocked from editing Wikipedia the next time you do so. –
Juliancolton |
Talk 00:22, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Wikiproject: Did you know? 00:28, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
thank you for caring re: my loss. DS ( talk) 12:48, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey ched, I'm working a bit on an artical that needs clean up and i do not know or am very good at it, so may you know some onw who could help me. -- Pedro J. the rookie 17:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
The Artical is Bill Clinton,(is it wierd that i edit a primetime cartoon comedy and a former president artical) LOL =D. -- Pedro J. the rookie 13:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
LOL, well what i am looking to do is fix any grammer error that it may have, yeah i would think that is defined as copy-edit right?.-- Pedro J. the rookie 12:58, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
The September 2009 project coordinator election has begun. We will be selecting seven coordinators from a pool of candidates to serve for the next six months; members can still nominate themselves if interested. Please vote here by September 28! This message has been sent as you are registered as an active member of the project. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk • contrib) 01:34, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Avast! Have yerself a happy International Talk Like a Pirate Day, me hearties. Ye landlubbers best be a-speakin' the pirate language o'er the next 20 hours or so, else be forced to walk the plank and sent into the depths, ye scurvy dog! yo ho ho! – Juliancolton | Talk 02:25, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
User talk:MickMacNee Hell In A Bucket ( talk) 16:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
No, maybe discussing with the user why his edits were innappropriate. I also posted a couple of questions regarding the situaiton on User:Black Kite regarding my own actions if you can help shed some light on them I'd appreciate. Always a learning process here. Hell In A Bucket ( talk) 16:48, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
I can live with an unblock. The attitude does need to be adjusted though, and the buddies are feeding off each other. My bigger concern is that the user talk page is quickly devolving into an inappropriate forum for random discussion, and that sort of attitude is being spread everywhere. Honestly, though, one more comment like "should I wash your feet too?" and I have no problem throwing away the editing privileges again. People who want to play in controversial areas need to really be on their best behavior. -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 20:32, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Check out this guy's attitude. Cptnono ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). I don't see the point in removing cited information from an article on the grounds he's claiming. I also don't see the point in comments like "get over it" and "arguing just to be arguing", i.e. that I don't agree with his viewpoint on things. Maybe I should have him read WP:OWN? → Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 06:46, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
OK, this might take a bit of time here, as I see that there are multiple threads spread across various editors talk page's, as well as a couple article talk pages. Given some time constraints (mine), I'll just give my initial thoughts.
I hope that this can be resolved without the need to go to the AN boards. Everyone seems to be in good spirits here, so hopefully we can find a good resolution without that. I have a couple clients I need to take care of (sorry, that pesky thing called real life and a need to pay bills always seems to get in the way), but I'll get back to this later today. Best to all. — Ched : ? 13:13, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
But you don't need to play mediator. I'll copy and paste this in the article's talk page. Thanks again for the fair assesment and I hope it wasn't too weird to wake up to. Cptnono ( talk) 13:56, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
This is separate from the above but one editor's comment reminded me of it. It's like blasphemy to say anything negative about Ted Kennedy now, but I'm reminded of a faux quote from sometime in the 1970s, when a reporter supposedly asked him if he was planning to run for President, and he supposedly answered, "I'll drive off that bridge when I come to it." → Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 09:05, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
You are wise, Ched. Therefore, I ask you, when you have time, to explain to me in a way I can digest it the statement by another editor that "Wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth". I won't be checking back till tomorrow at least, I was invited to be an audience participant on the Glenn Beck show which tapes today (airs on Friday) so until then, regards, ObserverNY ( talk) 14:29, 24 September 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
To be honest, I'd be content if we could just get rid of the red-line bolding there that taunts new editors. The bottom line is this though. We're trying to be an encyclopedic project (at least some folks claim that), and our task is to "document" rather than to "report". If 10 people watch person:A punch person:B in the face, and it is a very "TRUE" thing - that doesn't matter to Wikipedia. What does matter, ... is it documented by reliable sources that can verify that this happened. (I'm leaving out the WP:Notability issues just for the sake of simplification for the moment).
Hi Ched - Thanks for the feedback. Beck was awesome, I got to say about 20 secs. worth in the 2nd half of the show which airs tonight. He gave everyone in the audience a copy of his Arguing with Idiots book, which he autographed for me and a 9/12 Moms T-shirt. I even got to give him a peck on the cheek, he smells good too! Of course, that constitutes WP:OR LOL! ;-)
I had uploaded a pic I took at the 9/12 D.C. rally which of course, Agnostic Preacher's Kid deleted without responding to my question in Talk. He claimed in his undo edit "it looked too cluttered". Maybe I'll try dealing with him after I'm done reading Glenn's book, but it isn't worth the battle right now. Everything is a battle in here. It's exhausting. ObserverNY ( talk) 15:39, 25 September 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
This discussion sounds vaguely familiar somehow. The "verifiability not truth" argument is unfortunately sometimes used to push points of view, because that unfortunate wording suggests that somehow the truth does not matter. It does matter. To "verify" means "to make true". While a fact needs verification, that's not necessarily enough. If there's only one source that says anything about Obama's skin color, and the source says he's green, that "fact" cannot be used, no matter how "reliable" the source is - because a "fact" that's known to be false cannot be presented as being factual. That would undermine wikipedia's purpose, which is to provide factual information to the public. → Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 18:56, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I will respond, in all due time, and much I see is fact
To fuss and fight, serves no one well,
— Ched : ? 02:01, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
For the culturally deprived and depraved, the "razzbucknik" was the official currency of the fictional country called Lower Slobbovia. It was said that one razzbucknik was worth nothing, and a million razzbuckniks were worth a lot less, due to the trouble of having to carry them around. So if someone asks you what your admin salary is, you could safely say that it's a million razzbuckniks. → Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 14:53, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
"WP editors have a policy they should follow. WP:OWN. This same policy should also apply to administrative actions. We don't "own" blocks and protections. If someone questions, or "edits" an admin. action - then it's possible that the edit or change was done to improve the project. Talk. Discuss. Become familiar with the folks we're working with. Blocks should be a last resort, and only to prevent some sort of distruction that's going on."
Haven't I seen you around the monarchy articles, in the past? Your moniker looks familiar. GoodDay ( talk) 15:16, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm in one of my low-key un-communicative modes. Takes someone prodding to wake me up. Otherwise, I'm just puttering around doing minor inconsequential stuff. — Huntster ( t @ c) 03:37, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
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=) TechOutsider ( talk • contribs) 01:25, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
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put your citation here Pedro thy master ( talk) 20:38, 30 July 2009 (UTC) |
Hope you like it. Pedro thy master ( talk • contribs) 16:30, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
<-- Not at all. In fact, I'm going to give you one of these:
The Guidance Barnstar | ||
Awarded for your thoughtful comments here, an exemplary piece of constructive criticism. decltype ( talk) 12:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC) |
Regards, decltype ( talk) 12:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
The Friendship Barnstar | ||
For your most excellent efforts in friendship towards your fellow Wikipedians,
User:Buster7 would like to award you the Barnstar of Friendship.
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don't help at all .. it's not the FULL URL. If there are newspaper articles about him - just copy and paste the URL. You haven't really edited the article I put in your sandbox - you haven't given me anything to work with here. I don't know how to help you here. I get the fact that he's a good guy that had a hard life, but that doesn't make him notable from an encyclopedic point of view. Did he write any books on a best sellers list? Did he do something that got media coverage on TV or in the newspapers? I can't do this by myself here. Write in YOUR OWN WORDS what makes him notable. Cheers. — Ched : ? 12:49, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
And here I was thinking you were speaking theoretically! ~ Amory ( user • talk • contribs) 19:02, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Ched do you now something that can correct bad grammer. -- Pedro J. the rookie 22:40, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
wait microsoft word, dosent that only work with spelling. -- Pedro J. the rookie 01:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
I notice that you redirected the protected page Doctor Steel to the newly recreated article at Doctor Steel (band). I've just asked for some guidance on WP:AN regarding the new article and the many, many, many attempts to get the good doctor onto Wikipedia in the past; you may wish to comment, as I mention your redirect in my query. Tony Fox (arf!) 17:06, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Wikiproject: Did you know? 11:15, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Could you fix the formatting of your AfD close? The AfD template should go before the header. Also, you didn't use the standard, "The result was delete." Would you please add that to your close? Thanks, Cunard ( talk) 00:06, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
In reference to your comments that I should "not attempt to judge what is "sub-standard" until" I am "more familiar with" your "policies, guidelines, and established practices". Well, I am quite familiar with Wikipedia's codes of conduct and practise. I've been an active editor for over 12 months and have almost 1,500 edits. Maybe you should familiarise youself with the fifth pillar of Wikipedia: "If the status quo stands in the way, challenge it." ~~ Dr Dec ( Talk) ~~ 00:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
For this. Made my morning. Now off to work... Awickert ( talk) 15:10, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
No problem. I haven't added the guideline tag, because it already has guideline in the title, but feel free to add one if you feel it is needed. However, you may want to work out the "On verification" before you do so. But I think it has wide enough support that it no longer needs to be a proposal, there's certainly no challenge to it. If it weren't tempting fate I'd be inclined to write up my own death page per others. Hiding T 10:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Ched i am try'in to save an artical from becoming a AD, and i was hopeing you could give me some tips on how to save it. -- Pedro J. the rookie 20:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
List of highest paid American television stars Ched. -- Pedro J. the rookie 22:14, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Ched and thanks Kelapstick, for your help. --
Pedro J.
the rookie 14:18, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks for the help!! Erector Euphonious ( talk) 23:11, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Dear colleague, I just want to wish you a happy, hopefully, extended holiday weekend and nice end to summer! Your friend, -- A Nobody My talk 03:13, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for protecting my user page. Sorry the garbage from another website made its way here; I guess some people just couldn't let go. Thanks again. -- MiB-24 ( talk) 02:00, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that you're an administrator, and you have posted on User:ChildofMidnight's talk page. Would you agree that contributions such as this create a hostile and uncivil editing environment (note edit summary)? This could be taken as an effort to "retaliate", for a dispute over a recent edit of his. Maybe I'm out of line, but regardless of whether the content he removed belongs in the article or not, referring to other editors' content as "bullshit puffery" seems to violate civil. MichaelLNorth ( talk) 16:19, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for your kind words. After tomorrow, I doubt I'll have much time anyway to edit as my new job (yes, I got a new job in this market!) requires me to wake up at 4:30 AM - ugh. Frankly, I am horrified at the blatant POV and powers granted to Wikiadmins. I thought these dudes were supposed to be "neutral", silly me. Now I think most of them are completely over the edge! One thing this editing experience has taught me is that Wikipedia should NEVER be allowed as a source for research in schools. NEVER. Regards, ObserverNY ( talk) 23:24, 8 September 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
Yo Ched. Do you follow the goings on here? I have trouble navigating all the project pages (like today I was looking into a COI issue and I couldn't find a link from the on the wp:coi page to the coi noticeboard (turns out it's wp:coin) but anyway, I'm wonder about different outcomes and things. I'd like find someone who can keep me up to date with cliff noted briefings on the major happenings (like those the president gets). For instance, what was the outcome of the Abd v. WMC (mathsci) arbcom proceeding?
And do you do IRC? Are there different rooms for different cabals? Or how does it work? I know the admin cabal has their own room. Is it just one or multiple? I think the cabals should have greek letters.
Anyway, just chewing the cud with you. I guess most people don't even discuss these things on wiki. Too political. Anything you say, can and will be used against you. Better to go to IRC where the logs are secret or Wikipedia Review where the teenagers are too afraid to mess the the smack talkers? :) Fun times.
Is it still racing season now? Has Geoff Gordon won again? Actually his teammate keeps winning right? Why does the track always have to be an oval? That's all for now. Take care. ChildofMidnight ( talk) 06:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
It's VERY much appreciated! Goes to show that I must be doing SOMETHING right here lately - that's my third star in the past 6 days. :) ArcAngel ( talk) 12:44, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Regarding you comment of ChildOfMightnight's page to me. I only saw one editor attempting to add contentious material to the article repeatedly without consensus. When one editor keeps adding something against consensus and multiple editors are removing it then I don't consider those multiple editors to be disruptive. If there is any other form of inappropriate behavior going on then I have not noticed it. I try not to get involved in the content of the debate when I am wearing my admin hat and just try to make sure that the article is not disrupted by edit warring. You are of course welcome to take action of your own if you see anything that does not seem right to you.
In the future it is best to ask such questions on my own talk page as many users have the habit of blanking warnings. Chillum 13:41, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey Ched. I hope things are going better for you now. The big Jets victory should help. :) ChildofMidnight ( talk) 00:01, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Re, your messages. The account, from my small amount of experience in the matter, appears to be that of an axemann8 imposter. I don't know how long ago this was, but around the time Axemann8 was indefinitely blocked, various sockpuppet accounts turned up which had names similar to axemann8. These accounts were of course assumed to be him, but later a check was run, and they were found to be unrelated. This means that someone out there was trying to impersonate axemann8 to get him in trouble. Although various checks have been run to try and pin who did it, they have all come back inconclusive, even though they are obviously related. It is only possible from this information, that the user behind the imposter accounts knows how to skirt around CU, and has done this to keep their primary account hidden. This new account is just another in a long line of disruptive/SPA accounts.— Dæ dαlus Contribs 02:04, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
That would likely be the royal "we", used by that Axmann8 impostor. Thanks to impostors, sometimes it's hard to tell the true socks from the socks of other socks. He should be lashed with a... hey, that reminds me - if we can have an article about a Green Weenie, I don't see why we can't have articles about other satirical foods. Lutefisk, for example. :) Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 02:28, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm guessing that guy went through someone's contribs list (maybe mine) and posted to the first few users he found on it. OK, so the next time I'm about to turn someone in to WP:AIV for obvious socking, harassment, vandalism, etc., should I send it your way instead, if you're online? Then you could knock that softball out of the park and into the wiki-showers. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 03:11, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
If you could use a laugh or two after a long week, here are some Groucho clips I found.
As a guest panelist on "What's My Line?", late 1950s or so
As a guest on "I've Got a Secret", 1959
On the Dick Cavett show, ca. 1969
Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 03:17, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm so sorry to read about your recent losses Ched. You know there's always a channel open if you need one. And Bugs, those were fantastic clips :) — Huntster ( t @ c) 04:37, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey Ched. If you need anything (including a sounding board) let me know. Email is always open too. Have a better weekend. kelapstick ( talk) 04:15, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Ched, it was fun checking out the diffs where you got punked by a Malleus impersonator. :) It's a good thing you stayed cool. You still came off looking good. ChildofMidnight ( talk) 16:43, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Look, I'm being a bit of a drama queen here. Bad week, and I apologize for bringing it "on-wiki". No big deal. There are a LOT of folks out there that suffer much worse every day. I am truly grateful for the the kind words and support ... I promise ... I'll focus on content. ;) Onward and upward. — Ched : ? 05:00, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
Your continued joking is disruptive and considered
vandalism. You will be
blocked from editing Wikipedia the next time you do so. –
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Talk 00:22, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Wikiproject: Did you know? 00:28, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
thank you for caring re: my loss. DS ( talk) 12:48, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey ched, I'm working a bit on an artical that needs clean up and i do not know or am very good at it, so may you know some onw who could help me. -- Pedro J. the rookie 17:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
The Artical is Bill Clinton,(is it wierd that i edit a primetime cartoon comedy and a former president artical) LOL =D. -- Pedro J. the rookie 13:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
LOL, well what i am looking to do is fix any grammer error that it may have, yeah i would think that is defined as copy-edit right?.-- Pedro J. the rookie 12:58, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
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Avast! Have yerself a happy International Talk Like a Pirate Day, me hearties. Ye landlubbers best be a-speakin' the pirate language o'er the next 20 hours or so, else be forced to walk the plank and sent into the depths, ye scurvy dog! yo ho ho! – Juliancolton | Talk 02:25, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
User talk:MickMacNee Hell In A Bucket ( talk) 16:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
No, maybe discussing with the user why his edits were innappropriate. I also posted a couple of questions regarding the situaiton on User:Black Kite regarding my own actions if you can help shed some light on them I'd appreciate. Always a learning process here. Hell In A Bucket ( talk) 16:48, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
I can live with an unblock. The attitude does need to be adjusted though, and the buddies are feeding off each other. My bigger concern is that the user talk page is quickly devolving into an inappropriate forum for random discussion, and that sort of attitude is being spread everywhere. Honestly, though, one more comment like "should I wash your feet too?" and I have no problem throwing away the editing privileges again. People who want to play in controversial areas need to really be on their best behavior. -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 20:32, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Check out this guy's attitude. Cptnono ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). I don't see the point in removing cited information from an article on the grounds he's claiming. I also don't see the point in comments like "get over it" and "arguing just to be arguing", i.e. that I don't agree with his viewpoint on things. Maybe I should have him read WP:OWN? → Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 06:46, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
OK, this might take a bit of time here, as I see that there are multiple threads spread across various editors talk page's, as well as a couple article talk pages. Given some time constraints (mine), I'll just give my initial thoughts.
I hope that this can be resolved without the need to go to the AN boards. Everyone seems to be in good spirits here, so hopefully we can find a good resolution without that. I have a couple clients I need to take care of (sorry, that pesky thing called real life and a need to pay bills always seems to get in the way), but I'll get back to this later today. Best to all. — Ched : ? 13:13, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
But you don't need to play mediator. I'll copy and paste this in the article's talk page. Thanks again for the fair assesment and I hope it wasn't too weird to wake up to. Cptnono ( talk) 13:56, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
This is separate from the above but one editor's comment reminded me of it. It's like blasphemy to say anything negative about Ted Kennedy now, but I'm reminded of a faux quote from sometime in the 1970s, when a reporter supposedly asked him if he was planning to run for President, and he supposedly answered, "I'll drive off that bridge when I come to it." → Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 09:05, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
You are wise, Ched. Therefore, I ask you, when you have time, to explain to me in a way I can digest it the statement by another editor that "Wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth". I won't be checking back till tomorrow at least, I was invited to be an audience participant on the Glenn Beck show which tapes today (airs on Friday) so until then, regards, ObserverNY ( talk) 14:29, 24 September 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
To be honest, I'd be content if we could just get rid of the red-line bolding there that taunts new editors. The bottom line is this though. We're trying to be an encyclopedic project (at least some folks claim that), and our task is to "document" rather than to "report". If 10 people watch person:A punch person:B in the face, and it is a very "TRUE" thing - that doesn't matter to Wikipedia. What does matter, ... is it documented by reliable sources that can verify that this happened. (I'm leaving out the WP:Notability issues just for the sake of simplification for the moment).
Hi Ched - Thanks for the feedback. Beck was awesome, I got to say about 20 secs. worth in the 2nd half of the show which airs tonight. He gave everyone in the audience a copy of his Arguing with Idiots book, which he autographed for me and a 9/12 Moms T-shirt. I even got to give him a peck on the cheek, he smells good too! Of course, that constitutes WP:OR LOL! ;-)
I had uploaded a pic I took at the 9/12 D.C. rally which of course, Agnostic Preacher's Kid deleted without responding to my question in Talk. He claimed in his undo edit "it looked too cluttered". Maybe I'll try dealing with him after I'm done reading Glenn's book, but it isn't worth the battle right now. Everything is a battle in here. It's exhausting. ObserverNY ( talk) 15:39, 25 September 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
This discussion sounds vaguely familiar somehow. The "verifiability not truth" argument is unfortunately sometimes used to push points of view, because that unfortunate wording suggests that somehow the truth does not matter. It does matter. To "verify" means "to make true". While a fact needs verification, that's not necessarily enough. If there's only one source that says anything about Obama's skin color, and the source says he's green, that "fact" cannot be used, no matter how "reliable" the source is - because a "fact" that's known to be false cannot be presented as being factual. That would undermine wikipedia's purpose, which is to provide factual information to the public. → Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 18:56, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I will respond, in all due time, and much I see is fact
To fuss and fight, serves no one well,
— Ched : ? 02:01, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
For the culturally deprived and depraved, the "razzbucknik" was the official currency of the fictional country called Lower Slobbovia. It was said that one razzbucknik was worth nothing, and a million razzbuckniks were worth a lot less, due to the trouble of having to carry them around. So if someone asks you what your admin salary is, you could safely say that it's a million razzbuckniks. → Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 14:53, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
"WP editors have a policy they should follow. WP:OWN. This same policy should also apply to administrative actions. We don't "own" blocks and protections. If someone questions, or "edits" an admin. action - then it's possible that the edit or change was done to improve the project. Talk. Discuss. Become familiar with the folks we're working with. Blocks should be a last resort, and only to prevent some sort of distruction that's going on."
Haven't I seen you around the monarchy articles, in the past? Your moniker looks familiar. GoodDay ( talk) 15:16, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm in one of my low-key un-communicative modes. Takes someone prodding to wake me up. Otherwise, I'm just puttering around doing minor inconsequential stuff. — Huntster ( t @ c) 03:37, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
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