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Please take a list of the topics if you can get a chance. Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 06:34, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I stumbled across Flubeca's user page, liked it, modified it, and you will find something I think you'll really like on my user page. ;-) 512bits ( talk) 02:14, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
See Template:Harvard citation no brackets. "the template logic can extract the year of from a full date" ... the 'of' should not be there but it will not allow me to fix it. Do you know someone that can? Thanks. 512bits ( talk) 00:20, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm ready for zh articles to be formatted, thanks. Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 10:43, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
Yes this user is a sneaky vandal. 98% of his contributions were reverted by me and other users. Locador ( talk) 01:22, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
A user proposed my recent article on Shuhrat Abbosov for speedy deletion. I wonder if he actually read the entry. The article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because Abbosov is considered to one of the most influential Uzbek filmmakers and is celebrated as one of the founders of the Uzbek film making industry. He has received many honorary titles and awards, including a People's Artist of the Uzbek SSR, a People's Artist of the USSR, and an Order of the Red Banner of Labour. I've added many reliable sources to the article. Can you visit the page's talk page directly to tell us what you think about the issue? Nataev ( talk) 10:13, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Botany#Botany_article_structure_and_concerns. Thank you. 512bits ( talk) 23:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Anna, thankyou for your input on St Jude's Church, very kind! Its now published, and awaits other people's input. Many thanks for your tips on how to polish off the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basil Jradeh ( talk • contribs) 12:50, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
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I may be 63, but the small child version of me is still very much alive! I love bunnies. When I was a toddler I would grab every animal I set eyes on, from bees to horses, in order to try to pet it, or hug it and kiss it. Of course I got bitten and stung quite a lot by a large range of different beasties, but that has not discouraged me. I'm still out there trying to hug the world regardless of whether it hugs me back or not. Maybe you are the same? Hugs and bunnies to you too, Invertzoo ( talk) 14:05, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Oh! That reminds me. I was going to do a "Drinking water in India" or "Groundwater in India" article. I wonder if it's been done by now. These insane discussions always lead to something. :) Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 23:47, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Anna, I just got to know that Dutch Wikipedia is using the CSVLoader program to create all Animal species. They have used the plugin to create 300,000 new stub articles. See Dutch_Wikipedia#History. It is such a tough sell here. You can check out the project page, bot editing page and the status page. They have retained Jimbo likes banana examples that you came up with. :) — Ganeshk ( talk) 20:12, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
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Dear Anna Frodesiak,
This is in reply to a mail I have received from Mark Marathon
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kavaliltt)
I really do not know who is Mark Marathon and clicking on the link gives "wikipedia does not have a page on Mark Marathon" (see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mark_Marathon)
I must admit here that I am not well versed in wikipedia edit parlance and the editing technics.
It is true that I have added some additional info taken from a site obtained from Google. I was not aware that that particular piece of text was copy righted, though the information is common local knowledge. Can anyone copy right an information that is well known locally?? And from where we will deduce if a particular text in a site is copy righted?? I will appreciate if you could, please, shed some info on this, so that I can avoid such Faux Pas in future.
I have added the source of additional info in the links as I did not want anyone to accuse me of plagiarism. It is very much there.
You may reply to my mail id registered with wikipedia (capt.kavalil.t.t@gmail.com or capt_kavalil_t_t@yahoo.co.in)
With warm regards kavaliltt (Capt.Kavalil T.T)
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Mt king (edits) 23:37, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed you nominated some articles then backed off, because they had been nominated before. I think this is okay. I have seen a lot of articles that are on their second nomination. This one is on its fourth! Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/François_Asselineau_(4th_nomination). For some of these articles, the first outcome was "no consensus." I think it's perfectly reasonable to try again, now that people have had a year to add references and establish notability. Logical Cowboy ( talk) 16:36, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
SMcCandlish has given you a tanuki! You can probably figure out why. >;-) — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ Contrib. 20:31, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Ms Anna,
Thanks for your reply and explanation. I will follow your suggestions/
With warm regards Kavaliltt 23:01, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Ani#202.176.14.74 fyi. Sorry you have to deal with this sort of thing. Happy editing! Jim1138 ( talk) 07:44, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
... is a city in Jinagsu Province independent of Nanjing. :P More seriously though, I've seen you put things that are in Nanjing and / or Jiangsu in "Suzhou Province" in two separate instances now. Could you please check over your contribs to fix any remaining mistakes? Thanks. wctaiwan ( talk) 15:40, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 08:27, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Whaddya think? Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 08:25, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for informing the issue. I add links for Notes right after the paragraph I used from the website I refered to. This is my first time to edit in Wiki and I'm not sure whether my correction is OK or NOT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bayern2012 ( talk • contribs) 09:19, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
I see you are involved some chinese/english projects, if you know anyone, we need some references for Ten Ren Tea. Thanks. icetea8 ( talk) 04:51, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Anna, are you working with this group at all? Over the last couple of days I've either tagged for CSD or had to rewrite 3 articles by students in this class who have either created articles composing solely of hyperlinks to http://baike.baidu.com/ or articles that are (poor) direct translations of pages from the same site and therefore copyvios. It's only just now that I've found out it's a schools project and I do feel a bit sorry about either tagging or re-editing the articles. I'd hate them to become discouraged through lack of understanding of core principles especially when a couple of them are writing quite an interesting article about a stretch of Roman road not far from me (the language is a bit flowery but the basic content is good). NtheP ( talk) 11:47, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. You don't mind me using the help page for grammar and all that jazz, do you? Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 01:35, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
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Thank's a lot Anna for helping me.I wont be a regular wikipedian as I am always very busy. Thanks a lot once again. Mangal.anukriti ( talk) 18:27, 17 March 2012 (UTC)mangal.anukriti
Anna, please comment over here User_talk:MarshalN20#Photos 512bits ( talk) 00:44, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Nice catch. A picture helps that article a lot. - AndrewDressel ( talk) 17:11, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Yash t 101 :) 23:14, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Hey Anna. Could you please share your opinion here? Thanks. wctaiwan ( talk) 15:27, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
You may want to have a look at WP:ANI#2012 in UFC events—Battleground disruption as well, this has come about following a series of AfD where admin closing statements have directed that these should be merged. The alternative is continuing to take articles which clearly fail a number of polices and guidelines to AfD. If you can come up with a better solution then have a go. Mt king (edits) 06:01, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
I won't nom any more for the time being, nor will I restore any redirects that have not been put in place following a AfD, however those that have been put in place as a result of an AfD are clearly there as a result of consensus, and I ask you not to undo them. Mt king (edits) 08:16, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm glad someone is for fairness on wikipedia! Glock17gen4 ( talk) 10:07, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Anna, I directed the students working on a related topic to the Yongle Emperor page, and found this paragraph to be pretty inadequate from a language perspective.
He was the Prince of Yan (燕王), possessing a heavy military base in Beiping. He became known as Chengzu of Ming Dynasty (明成祖 also written Cheng Zu, or Ch'eng Tsu (Cheng Tsu) in Wade-Giles) after becoming emperor (self title). He became emperor by conspiring to usurp the throne which was against Hongwu Emperor's wishes.
I'm anything but a Ming historian, so I didn't feel comfortable changing the language without an understanding of the issues. (For one thing, I thought the temple names were given posthumously), but I might give you a heads-up, in case you had an idea of who might wish to fix it. Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 05:21, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
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For keeping a cool head during the current MMA discussions. Even when you have differing ideas, you avoided conflict and have been helpful in getting others to see the positive benefits of the recent changes. Your contributions during the "brawl" have consistently been constructive and have helped serve as an example to others about the proper way to disagree without being disagreeable. I think everyone appreciates the way you stayed open minded about the changes until there was enough of an article to judge the merits objectively. Thanks! Dennis Brown ( talk) 12:08, 2 April 2012 (UTC) |
This is just a note to say that I have sent you an email. Thanks. wctaiwan ( talk) 15:10, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
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Hello! Thanks! -- Sinwense ( talk) 09:59, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
It looks like it is going to be AfD after all. Mt king (edits) 20:12, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
In light of this [2], where you chose to comment, I wish to address you directly to state: I meant in its essence what I said when I awarded Q. the barnstar. And I am sorry he didn't see it that way. This seemed like a good way to thank him for his help thus far. If I was remiss in the way I thanked him, I am truly sorry. Therefore there was no need to run to Q.'s 'defence' and no need to try to make me feel worse than I already do. As to Q., I sense he may be in pain in his private life, or something to that effect, and I can understand his loss of temper. I lose mine frequently.— Djathink imacowboy 12:43, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
WP:AHEM--my take on this is you are quite the nasty hypocrite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.21.156.196 ( talk) 14:33, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
YES for god's sake help her!! Call O'Brien! Tell him you need the ratcage!!! 76.195.87.205 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:50, 7 April 2012 (UTC).
Please see Talk:Botany#Where_to_go_now. Thank you. 512bits ( talk) 15:55, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi Anna,
I've semi-protected your talk page so an unregistered IP can not edit or harass you here. I set the time to 3 days as that should give the admins. working on the range-block time to figure out what needs to be done. If you object to your page being protected for a bit, say so and I'll gladly undo the protection. (or any other passing admin is free to do so). I don't know the full back story, but it's not right that any user should be able to come to another editor's talk page and speak to them in such a degrading manner. As I say, if you object, I'll watchlist and remove the protection at your wish. cheers. — Ched : ? 20:24, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Anna, i will get some media references to support the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Volkanc ( talk • contribs) 23:33, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Happy Easter! Hope your day is great! Yash t 101 13:47, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
thanks for the welcome .. welcome to you too :3
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Hi Anna, I'm worried about this group: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/NNU_Class_Project/Winter_2012/Drafts/Nanjing_Education_and_Technology_Channel. Some time ago, I had suggested that it might make more sense to expand Nanjing Broadcasting Network instead, but they don't want to lose their work. I'm not quite sure what to tell them. They have no sources but the channel's own site. I told them to be in touch with the channel to ask for materials, but apparently the channel is stuck in "haven't-asked-the-leaders-yet" mode. Do you have any advice on how to handle it? Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 14:43, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 13:52, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Does this qualify?-- kelapstick( bainuu) 23:26, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
(fixes: kelapstick( bainuu) 00:37, 13 April 2012 (UTC))
Hi, Anna! I happened across a welcome template you used lately ({{subst:User:Anna Frodesiak/Welcome}}) which has an outdated link to Interiot's old edit counter tool. Interiot's no longer with us (alas!) and his Toolserver account has expired, which means the link in the template ([http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate/ Find out how many edits you have!]) is dead. Did you want to change the link to one of the currently supported edit counters, such as the X! counter, now supported by TParis? X!'s Edit Counter Just a thought. Cheers and see you around! Geoff Who, me? 17:30, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
The Excellent User Page Award | ||
The name is enough, still you have got a wonderful userpage. One irrelevant question: Why don't you go for RfA? Yash t 101 00:03, 13 April 2012 (UTC) |
Hey Anna! Thanks for telling me about the channel. I was online at that time because I was feeling insomniac (local time was 3 am). So, can you tell me at what time UTC, you guys are online? Regards :) Yash t 101 06:41, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Mt king (edits) 07:08, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Replied :) Yash t 101 13:22, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
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You did a great job with those UFC articles. I'm sad you've given up, but I can understand why. It's clear you and the majority of people on here are right, but amazingly two very stubborn, very silly people have taken control of hundreds of pages. The effort was much appreciated anyway. 90.192.254.52 ( talk) 23:10, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry. I just realized. You didn't respond at all to the 4 million hits per month concern. How do you respond to that? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 06:09, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Please check your mail.. Yash t 101 16:40, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm considering running the gauntlet at WP:RFA. Since you have observed my actions under the worst of circumstances, the "Great Battle of the MMA Merge", I would invite you to voice an opinion as to whether or not this is a good idea on my talk page, in the current discussion. Feel free to ignore this request if you prefer, no offense will be taken. Dennis Brown (talk) (contrib) 16:58, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi. You might be interested in this. outreach:Wikipedia Education Program Metrics and Activities Meeting. The next meeting is April 23. You can also add your name to the list here to get meeting announcements in the future. meta:Global message delivery/Targets/Wikipedia Education Program meeting. Pine(talk) 09:52, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Anna, I'm personally sad to see you leave the UFC omnibus debate. You were obviously the most well versed with specific WP guidelines and how to convincingly back up an argument citing policies etc. The majority of people that are going to be adversely affected by TreyGeek and MtKing are just casual users like me that came to WP to view the single event pages because they are the best single sources of consolidated, easy to use, information regarding the event - sounds like that pretty well meets the intent of WP's existence if you ask me. What is ultimately going to happen is after they get done slashing and burning as much of the UFC/MMA articles as they can, people like me are simply going to stop using WP because it will be pointless. The omnibussing just does not work for these type of articles. I don't know anything about how the ultimate decision to keep articles or move to omnibussing gets decided. All I know how to do is voice my opinion which I've done, but those guys obviously don't care what the vast majority of users think and I imagine are just going to go through with the conversion. Ultimately I just wanted to say thanks for your input on the matter, take care. Pull lead ( talk) 20:50, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
My personal opinion is that since the UFC is the premier Mixed Martial Arts organization and has literally built the sport upon its shoulders since the sports inception in 1993 that its events should have single articles. As you are aware, the traffic clearly merits it. I also think that PRIDE Fighting Championships (a defunct Japanese organization that ran from 1997 to 2007) should also have its events as single articles because it was equally as important in the explosion of the sport's evolution. From 2000-2007 the sports best fighters were in Pride which is the time when the sport really grew from a fringe spectacle into a mainstream sport and the Pride events are largely the reason for it. I do think that pretty much every other minor organization could be without much opposition included in an omnibus such as EliteXC, WEC, Jungle Fight, King of the Cage, BAMMA, Strikeforce, and whatever other minor league shows have events with single articles. If all a minor organzation's event article includes is simply the fight results and no other valuable data then I personally wouldn't oppose to it being omnibus. I guess in the end I still don't understand the purpose of the omnibus in the first place. It just creates one extremely large, nonuser friendly conglomeration of event data. It also makes it more cumbersome to view events because it isn't convenient to access the thing at the bottom of each event page that has links to all other events. It's not like it saves any space and it isn't as though there are other articles that would be called UFC on FX: Diaz vs. Miller that currently cannot exist because of the UFC's event article. The idea behind the witch hunt has never even attempted to be clearly communicated, let alone justified in common sense terms. As you say, if an article is vulnerable to AfD, then the omnibus would be a great home for it, but if the UFC's events are piecemealed between single articles and omnibusses it will be a very messy and confusing way to organize the information I think. Pull lead ( talk) 23:59, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi, please have a look at this as I see that you have made a comment previously. ► Philg88 ◄ talk 07:22, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Dear Dr. Frodesiak - from your wonderful contributions I am guessing that you are a biologist who spends quite a bit of time in Hainan. I am neither, but a while back, I wrote the article Turtle farming, which mentions that a lot of those farms are in Hainan. I don't have a photo of one, however: I've never been to Hainan - and anyway, it's unlikely they'd let me in on a farm to take a picture. But if by some chance your professional or personal interests take you to such a farm, a photo will be so much appreciated! -- Vmenkov ( talk) 06:05, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks much for your response! Incidentally, do you think you can categorize this creature (a millipede?), at least to the phylum or class? -- Vmenkov ( talk) 03:54, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
This guy...seems to have stopped, but we'll see.-- kelapstick( bainuu) 02:47, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
There is sometimes no helping the mma fans, the continued removal of a maintenance template meant to attract other editors to find sources to help demonstrate it meets WP:EVENT so that there is no need to delete delete or redirect the article. Mt king (edits) 23:39, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Today is another example of the maturity of the MMA fanboys (I don't know what else to call them). They continue to use sockpuppets to avoid bans and attack everyone who disagrees with them by vandalizing their user and talk pages, and even their edits. Just today I was called a sockpuppet, vandal, dick, and troll--all before I'd made any edits. Even edits on articles about non-MMA subjects were targeted.
Their belief that nothing MMA can be removed is shown by the fact that removal of articles on events by organizations that aren't even second tier are derided. Given the long and illustrious history of American boxing there are 100 articles on American boxers, yet there are 842 articles on American MMA fighters for a relatively new sport. I believe most of them have never fought for a major promotion and even fewer meet WP:MMANOT#Fighters. I've seen articles on people who haven't even fought MMA, but have announced they're going to. Papaursa ( talk) 23:56, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi. One horrible machine translation, or so it seems. Needs a rescue from someone who knows something about the subject, and/or someone who can understand the Chinese original. Or possibly it may need the prod endorsing as non-notable... Peridon ( talk) 18:04, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for keeping an eye on it. Mt king (edits) 05:10, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
“ | This IP Address 81.178.38.169 has openly threatened my family through a scathing letter and even wrote to my school for writing an honest message on his talk page, believing it was harassing him. Yasht, I will agree at this stage it did get out of hand, because he was using language not appropriate and he made something big out of threatening to complain to JasperDeng. I just spoke for him, and then this threats against my school and family? Forget it, I can't work under an environment here. To people, I have been retiring weekly because I don't feel the need to work, but then I keep coming back, Wikipedia was hard to give up. Now I don't want to come back because of what one IP address has done. | ” |
This is the reason behind his retirment.
Yash
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Privacy infringing/disruptive material has been redacted. —
Tom Morris (
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I have no idea what to make of any of this.
Anna Frodesiak (
talk) 22:43, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
You forgot when talking about consensus to mention WP:LOCALCONSENSUS. MMA fanboys agreeing something can't override wider policy, we all know that the fans like the pages, I am sure NFL fans would like a page on every NFL game, or Cricket fans would love a page on every test match, or netball fans on their sport. In the cases of these AfD's none of the MMA fans are using valid reasons to why MMA should be exempt from the existing policies. Mt king (edits) 02:36, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi Anna F,
A big thankyou for all your assistance on the MMA issue. I appreciate your efforts and your frustration that MMA supporters are not better at expressing themselves in the correct WP manner.
you might want to have a look at http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/4/23/2968208/some-goon-on-wikipedia-is-trying-to-get-all-of-the-ufc-event-pages
If you get past some of the victrol (MMA fans are passionate) you will see you have some fans!, but there is also a lot of confusion on how to go about defending thier sports' notoriety and wiki pages. Perhaps you could consider either posting in the thread or creating a thread to give some hints and tips to the uninitiated?
PS I have created this account just to send this message - i will try to learn more myself to assist in this endeavour
Many Thanks, Trok333 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trok333 ( talk • contribs) 05:00, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
If you want to have a personal discussion, discuss it on my talk or your talk. If the standard of discussion in a formal procedure is that an editor's years old contributions will be questioned, the subject under discussion will never be discussed. BusterD ( talk) 14:18, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the recent note. I should also be thanking you for all of the outstanding work you've been adding to all of these discussions. I appreciate it. Udar55 ( talk) 14:23, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
For being the only sane person in the MMA-related AfDs, ma'am. Teamsleep ( talk) 22:48, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
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I just moved it back w/o a redirect instead of speedying. Cheers =) -- slakr\ talk / 01:46, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Frankly Anna, I can't see what you are contributing to the MMA debate, you seem to be in it to cause a drama; last night you posted what can only be discribed as a rant against my redirection of the UFC pages yet not 3 weeks past you told me to restore them with your blessing. You complain about my tactics, but respond to threats of off-wiki forums to track down editors with the phrase "That sucks and I'm sorry to hear about it." you also fail to acknowledge that the MMA side has been using socks, votestacking, off and on wiki canvassing (you yourself come very close to it with cross posting links to AfD) I have lost count of the number of IP's and editors blocked for socking at MMA AfD's. I could go on and on about lack of sources from non-mma media, sources from after the event, lack of prose covering the actual event rather than just gosip leading up to the event, but what's the point ? I am as unlike to convince you that they need to demonstrate any claim to enduring notability as you are to convince me that they are automatically notable. Mt king (edits) 05:46, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Yes we can work together, the issue is that WP wants prose the fans want stats, gossip etc, WP demands verifiability, the fans want instant results, they don't care about sources citations, look at the article history of UFC 145 last weekend when the event was on, I cant see how both sides can reach a compromise here. Mt king (edits) 11:36, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
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I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who steps in for the sole point of integrity and moral good, I present to you this barnstar in recognition of your pursuit of good without vested interest in the topic.
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First I want to say you were right to call me out for making an ad-hominem against Mtking, as no matter how much a situation may irritate me, those sorts of things are not conductive to any greater resolution of an argument. Much more than that, I want to thank you for your tireless dedication to protecting the MMA project. Your superb work has been extremely valuable, as has your unyielding integrity. I am very grateful for what you are doing. Beansy ( talk) 23:21, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm glad to see you haven't given up on contributing to the back pages of these UFC articles. Like you advised, I contacted an administrator (the one in charge of the UFC 142 AfD) to help arbitrate what will most likely turn in to a heated discussion about WP:MMANOT. I, too, got discouraged while talking about these pages. But, I believe that if we stick with this discussion, and try our best to compromise, we can reach a conclusion that will hopefully make both sides happy. -- Pat talk 02:35, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
First I must ask: Is your aim to see them fixed rather than deleted? If these articles are fixed up, can they stand on their own two feet? What percentage? Can all of them be well-sourced, contain prose, and be notable enough? What's your prognosis?
Okay. Here's the plan:
THE END :)
Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 12:36, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Hey there Anna,
Like you, I've seen the depth at which the current dispute exists in terms of it's degradation of civility, constructiveness and inter-editor relations over time. So too like you, I have tried in my own way to restore equality, however my approach may not have been one of admirable results in the past, though my now heavily neutral approach should rectify this.
But I drift from the point, up till now, as a relatively recent addition to the wiki community, I've been nervous about making modifications on a whole to the wiki itself and instead have focussed my efforts on reverting vandalism, trying to stick up for those who appearing to be victim to cyber-bullying on any level or suggesting edits. However, my strong sense of discomfort at seeing this developing issue and what appears to be many users, myself too in one occassion, becoming victim to sweeping generalisation and dismissal or even degradation and labeling has ignited that part of me which strongly objects to any form of intimidation, manipulation, namecalling and stereotyping and compelled me to push to make a more visible effort to defend the values of morality and this wiki than I had been doing so up to this point.
Of course, being a newbie myself, I was hoping that seeing you, a long term editor who appears to hold the same moral compass I hold dear, could help me find my bearings through pointing out any articles in need of immediate attention or discussions requiring input. Your assistance at the start of my first steps into significant presence on the visible side of the Page/Talk page boundaries would be greatly appreciated and help me establish as an editor my identity in the sense of how I tackle issues I see.
Many thanks, Terk Terkaal -- <Warning! Self-Confessed Newbie!> ( talk) 10:32, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Anna, I've not looked over your history too much, but from what I've seen in the recent past and the history I did hunt down, I think you'd be an ideal candidate for being an admin. Is there a reason you aren't? Hobit ( talk) 01:30, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Well, I thought about it. A few of the things I do are sort of admin-likeish I organize stuff. I try to stop people from fighting. I sort out a few messes here and there. What would the difference be between being an admin and how I am now? Tools! I just don't have tools. But, I know admins. They have tools. I call. They come and fix. That seems to work out fine.
It's probably best that I wait at least a year before thinking about it again. Thank you all for your kind words and consideration. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 20:12, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
I have replied to your points about videos on the article talk page, but the last bullet of this edit has this sentence:
I think, perhaps, maybe, it is possible that, and this is not an "accusation", your edits might show a teeny bit of Western-centricity.
In replying to your earlier comment accusing me of bias, I chose the word "accuse" deliberately to avoid throwing WP:NPA at you, but that's what it was, and that's what the above is. You don't make a statement not an accusation just by stating that it's not one, and phrasing like "perhaps, maybe, it is possible" and "a teeny bit" doesn't conceal what it fundamentally is: personal criticsm. It seems a shame to have to remind such an experienced editor, with such great contributions that people are suggesting you stand for admin, that the second sentence of WP:NPA says "Comment on content, not on the contributor."
Shall I defend myself against an accusation of Western-centricity? OK, take a look at my contribution history. You'll see that my last actions other than GOCE housekeeping were the removal of non-encyclopedic contact details from Indian CFA. Immediately before that, I closed and implemented the proposed merge of National Youth League (Indian National League) into Indian National League. A few days ago I completed a 9-day major copy edit (in response to a GOCE request) of Pakistan, following which I spent several hours trying to work for a compromise on the thorny issue of how Pakistan's relations with the Taliban (if any) should be represented with NPOV in that article. Please read Talk:Pakistan and tell me whether there is any "Western-centricity" in what I said there.
By the way, in modern times, Phodopus species in the wild have exclusively Asian habitats.
You have placed a video contributed by you in an article, and have accused an editor who removed it of bias in two different ways. Am I biassed? -- Stfg ( talk) 11:03, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Anna, have you heard about the Wikipedia:Education noticeboard? — Ganeshk ( talk) 10:54, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
I found some artciles for my Jjang article but they are in Korean, particulary hangul I think. Do we have a group of people for translations? This is what I want translated. http://www.dwci.co.kr/comic/comic/comics_view.asp?new_gubun=champ&seq=1311&series_seq=1311&book_seq=19783 FusionChamber Come with a partner and be joined as one being. ( talk) 20:17, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you, you're the best.:) FusionLord ( talk) 23:17, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
I'd like to run some general questions by since it seems you've worked on this before. Basically I'm trying to figure out how feasible a couple of user-centric ideas are and how far we can get without running into a wall. Even better if you have time to collaborate a bit or know of any other wiki-savvy editors who'd like to help hammer out something to be approved. It's exciting times and might make for interesting stories. :) Thanks. Agent00f ( talk) 06:07, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
Yash t 101 07:01, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
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A barnstar for your initiative to create Template:Lists of prepared foods. Thanks for working to improve the encyclopedia for the public! Northamerica1000 (talk) 14:29, 4 May 2012 (UTC) |
I've been working to update the article with descriptions— check it out! It sure would look nice to someday be formatted like the List of breads article is, as you mentioned at the article's AfD discussion. Do you think it would be easier to convert after descriptions have been completed? This article has a great potential to become an established, encyclopedic article. Northamerica1000 (talk) 04:09, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Good Job!
Thank you for significantly improving List of pastries with the table addition! |
Please help me here: Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#List_of_domesticated_animals_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.29, if you would. Chrisrus ( talk) 00:08, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Chrisrus ( talk) 18:26, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Two submissions:
What do we do with these? Now they are just sitting in limbo.-- kelapstick( bainuu) 02:08, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Many thanks indeed for being the very first person on my userpage to leave me the notification that I had been nominated for a barn star nomination. This is the very first time this has happened to me in all my years of editing Wikipedia - it really left me excited, and has helped to make my year, so again, thanks a million! All the very best, ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 11:05, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Can I just ask a question please? I see your surname - if it is your real surname - is Frodesiak. Is this a Polish surname? I had always assumed it is, so are you of Polish ancestry? I do not speak Polish, and have heard it is a difficult language to learn. I am a British citizen myself. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 21:04, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
I have been here for a while and want to improve myself. Though I try my best to do the right thing, I may do something wrong. As you have seen me work, can you please leave me a review as I want to know where I stand so far and what should I improve to be a good editor. Your opinion has always been valuable and your review can help. Thanks :) Yash t 101 08:22, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
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Please take a list of the topics if you can get a chance. Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 06:34, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I stumbled across Flubeca's user page, liked it, modified it, and you will find something I think you'll really like on my user page. ;-) 512bits ( talk) 02:14, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
See Template:Harvard citation no brackets. "the template logic can extract the year of from a full date" ... the 'of' should not be there but it will not allow me to fix it. Do you know someone that can? Thanks. 512bits ( talk) 00:20, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm ready for zh articles to be formatted, thanks. Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 10:43, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
Yes this user is a sneaky vandal. 98% of his contributions were reverted by me and other users. Locador ( talk) 01:22, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
A user proposed my recent article on Shuhrat Abbosov for speedy deletion. I wonder if he actually read the entry. The article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because Abbosov is considered to one of the most influential Uzbek filmmakers and is celebrated as one of the founders of the Uzbek film making industry. He has received many honorary titles and awards, including a People's Artist of the Uzbek SSR, a People's Artist of the USSR, and an Order of the Red Banner of Labour. I've added many reliable sources to the article. Can you visit the page's talk page directly to tell us what you think about the issue? Nataev ( talk) 10:13, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Botany#Botany_article_structure_and_concerns. Thank you. 512bits ( talk) 23:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Anna, thankyou for your input on St Jude's Church, very kind! Its now published, and awaits other people's input. Many thanks for your tips on how to polish off the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basil Jradeh ( talk • contribs) 12:50, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
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Oh! That reminds me. I was going to do a "Drinking water in India" or "Groundwater in India" article. I wonder if it's been done by now. These insane discussions always lead to something. :) Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 23:47, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Anna, I just got to know that Dutch Wikipedia is using the CSVLoader program to create all Animal species. They have used the plugin to create 300,000 new stub articles. See Dutch_Wikipedia#History. It is such a tough sell here. You can check out the project page, bot editing page and the status page. They have retained Jimbo likes banana examples that you came up with. :) — Ganeshk ( talk) 20:12, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
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Dear Anna Frodesiak,
This is in reply to a mail I have received from Mark Marathon
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kavaliltt)
I really do not know who is Mark Marathon and clicking on the link gives "wikipedia does not have a page on Mark Marathon" (see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mark_Marathon)
I must admit here that I am not well versed in wikipedia edit parlance and the editing technics.
It is true that I have added some additional info taken from a site obtained from Google. I was not aware that that particular piece of text was copy righted, though the information is common local knowledge. Can anyone copy right an information that is well known locally?? And from where we will deduce if a particular text in a site is copy righted?? I will appreciate if you could, please, shed some info on this, so that I can avoid such Faux Pas in future.
I have added the source of additional info in the links as I did not want anyone to accuse me of plagiarism. It is very much there.
You may reply to my mail id registered with wikipedia (capt.kavalil.t.t@gmail.com or capt_kavalil_t_t@yahoo.co.in)
With warm regards kavaliltt (Capt.Kavalil T.T)
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Mt king (edits) 23:37, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed you nominated some articles then backed off, because they had been nominated before. I think this is okay. I have seen a lot of articles that are on their second nomination. This one is on its fourth! Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/François_Asselineau_(4th_nomination). For some of these articles, the first outcome was "no consensus." I think it's perfectly reasonable to try again, now that people have had a year to add references and establish notability. Logical Cowboy ( talk) 16:36, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
SMcCandlish has given you a tanuki! You can probably figure out why. >;-) — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ Contrib. 20:31, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Ms Anna,
Thanks for your reply and explanation. I will follow your suggestions/
With warm regards Kavaliltt 23:01, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Ani#202.176.14.74 fyi. Sorry you have to deal with this sort of thing. Happy editing! Jim1138 ( talk) 07:44, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
... is a city in Jinagsu Province independent of Nanjing. :P More seriously though, I've seen you put things that are in Nanjing and / or Jiangsu in "Suzhou Province" in two separate instances now. Could you please check over your contribs to fix any remaining mistakes? Thanks. wctaiwan ( talk) 15:40, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
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Whaddya think? Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 08:25, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for informing the issue. I add links for Notes right after the paragraph I used from the website I refered to. This is my first time to edit in Wiki and I'm not sure whether my correction is OK or NOT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bayern2012 ( talk • contribs) 09:19, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
I see you are involved some chinese/english projects, if you know anyone, we need some references for Ten Ren Tea. Thanks. icetea8 ( talk) 04:51, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Anna, are you working with this group at all? Over the last couple of days I've either tagged for CSD or had to rewrite 3 articles by students in this class who have either created articles composing solely of hyperlinks to http://baike.baidu.com/ or articles that are (poor) direct translations of pages from the same site and therefore copyvios. It's only just now that I've found out it's a schools project and I do feel a bit sorry about either tagging or re-editing the articles. I'd hate them to become discouraged through lack of understanding of core principles especially when a couple of them are writing quite an interesting article about a stretch of Roman road not far from me (the language is a bit flowery but the basic content is good). NtheP ( talk) 11:47, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. You don't mind me using the help page for grammar and all that jazz, do you? Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 01:35, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
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Thank's a lot Anna for helping me.I wont be a regular wikipedian as I am always very busy. Thanks a lot once again. Mangal.anukriti ( talk) 18:27, 17 March 2012 (UTC)mangal.anukriti
Anna, please comment over here User_talk:MarshalN20#Photos 512bits ( talk) 00:44, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Nice catch. A picture helps that article a lot. - AndrewDressel ( talk) 17:11, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Yash t 101 :) 23:14, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Hey Anna. Could you please share your opinion here? Thanks. wctaiwan ( talk) 15:27, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
You may want to have a look at WP:ANI#2012 in UFC events—Battleground disruption as well, this has come about following a series of AfD where admin closing statements have directed that these should be merged. The alternative is continuing to take articles which clearly fail a number of polices and guidelines to AfD. If you can come up with a better solution then have a go. Mt king (edits) 06:01, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
I won't nom any more for the time being, nor will I restore any redirects that have not been put in place following a AfD, however those that have been put in place as a result of an AfD are clearly there as a result of consensus, and I ask you not to undo them. Mt king (edits) 08:16, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm glad someone is for fairness on wikipedia! Glock17gen4 ( talk) 10:07, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Anna, I directed the students working on a related topic to the Yongle Emperor page, and found this paragraph to be pretty inadequate from a language perspective.
He was the Prince of Yan (燕王), possessing a heavy military base in Beiping. He became known as Chengzu of Ming Dynasty (明成祖 also written Cheng Zu, or Ch'eng Tsu (Cheng Tsu) in Wade-Giles) after becoming emperor (self title). He became emperor by conspiring to usurp the throne which was against Hongwu Emperor's wishes.
I'm anything but a Ming historian, so I didn't feel comfortable changing the language without an understanding of the issues. (For one thing, I thought the temple names were given posthumously), but I might give you a heads-up, in case you had an idea of who might wish to fix it. Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 05:21, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
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For keeping a cool head during the current MMA discussions. Even when you have differing ideas, you avoided conflict and have been helpful in getting others to see the positive benefits of the recent changes. Your contributions during the "brawl" have consistently been constructive and have helped serve as an example to others about the proper way to disagree without being disagreeable. I think everyone appreciates the way you stayed open minded about the changes until there was enough of an article to judge the merits objectively. Thanks! Dennis Brown ( talk) 12:08, 2 April 2012 (UTC) |
This is just a note to say that I have sent you an email. Thanks. wctaiwan ( talk) 15:10, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
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It looks like it is going to be AfD after all. Mt king (edits) 20:12, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
In light of this [2], where you chose to comment, I wish to address you directly to state: I meant in its essence what I said when I awarded Q. the barnstar. And I am sorry he didn't see it that way. This seemed like a good way to thank him for his help thus far. If I was remiss in the way I thanked him, I am truly sorry. Therefore there was no need to run to Q.'s 'defence' and no need to try to make me feel worse than I already do. As to Q., I sense he may be in pain in his private life, or something to that effect, and I can understand his loss of temper. I lose mine frequently.— Djathink imacowboy 12:43, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
WP:AHEM--my take on this is you are quite the nasty hypocrite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.21.156.196 ( talk) 14:33, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
YES for god's sake help her!! Call O'Brien! Tell him you need the ratcage!!! 76.195.87.205 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:50, 7 April 2012 (UTC).
Please see Talk:Botany#Where_to_go_now. Thank you. 512bits ( talk) 15:55, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi Anna,
I've semi-protected your talk page so an unregistered IP can not edit or harass you here. I set the time to 3 days as that should give the admins. working on the range-block time to figure out what needs to be done. If you object to your page being protected for a bit, say so and I'll gladly undo the protection. (or any other passing admin is free to do so). I don't know the full back story, but it's not right that any user should be able to come to another editor's talk page and speak to them in such a degrading manner. As I say, if you object, I'll watchlist and remove the protection at your wish. cheers. — Ched : ? 20:24, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Anna, i will get some media references to support the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Volkanc ( talk • contribs) 23:33, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Happy Easter! Hope your day is great! Yash t 101 13:47, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
thanks for the welcome .. welcome to you too :3
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Hi Anna, I'm worried about this group: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/NNU_Class_Project/Winter_2012/Drafts/Nanjing_Education_and_Technology_Channel. Some time ago, I had suggested that it might make more sense to expand Nanjing Broadcasting Network instead, but they don't want to lose their work. I'm not quite sure what to tell them. They have no sources but the channel's own site. I told them to be in touch with the channel to ask for materials, but apparently the channel is stuck in "haven't-asked-the-leaders-yet" mode. Do you have any advice on how to handle it? Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 14:43, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 13:52, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Does this qualify?-- kelapstick( bainuu) 23:26, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
(fixes: kelapstick( bainuu) 00:37, 13 April 2012 (UTC))
Hi, Anna! I happened across a welcome template you used lately ({{subst:User:Anna Frodesiak/Welcome}}) which has an outdated link to Interiot's old edit counter tool. Interiot's no longer with us (alas!) and his Toolserver account has expired, which means the link in the template ([http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate/ Find out how many edits you have!]) is dead. Did you want to change the link to one of the currently supported edit counters, such as the X! counter, now supported by TParis? X!'s Edit Counter Just a thought. Cheers and see you around! Geoff Who, me? 17:30, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
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The name is enough, still you have got a wonderful userpage. One irrelevant question: Why don't you go for RfA? Yash t 101 00:03, 13 April 2012 (UTC) |
Hey Anna! Thanks for telling me about the channel. I was online at that time because I was feeling insomniac (local time was 3 am). So, can you tell me at what time UTC, you guys are online? Regards :) Yash t 101 06:41, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
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Replied :) Yash t 101 13:22, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
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Hi! I'm serving as the wikipedian-in-residence at the Smithsonian Institution Archives until June! One of my goals as resident, is to work with Wikipedians and staff to improve content on Wikipedia about people who have collections held in the Archives - most of these are scientists who held roles within the Smithsonian and/or federal government. I thought you might like to participate since you are interested in the sciences! Sign up to participate here and dive into articles needing expansion and creation on our to-do list. Feel free to make a request for images or materials at the request page, and of course, if you share your successes at the outcomes page you will receive the SIA barnstar! Thanks for your interest, and I look forward to your participation! Sarah ( talk) 18:46, 16 April 2012 (UTC) |
You did a great job with those UFC articles. I'm sad you've given up, but I can understand why. It's clear you and the majority of people on here are right, but amazingly two very stubborn, very silly people have taken control of hundreds of pages. The effort was much appreciated anyway. 90.192.254.52 ( talk) 23:10, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry. I just realized. You didn't respond at all to the 4 million hits per month concern. How do you respond to that? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 06:09, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Please check your mail.. Yash t 101 16:40, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm considering running the gauntlet at WP:RFA. Since you have observed my actions under the worst of circumstances, the "Great Battle of the MMA Merge", I would invite you to voice an opinion as to whether or not this is a good idea on my talk page, in the current discussion. Feel free to ignore this request if you prefer, no offense will be taken. Dennis Brown (talk) (contrib) 16:58, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi. You might be interested in this. outreach:Wikipedia Education Program Metrics and Activities Meeting. The next meeting is April 23. You can also add your name to the list here to get meeting announcements in the future. meta:Global message delivery/Targets/Wikipedia Education Program meeting. Pine(talk) 09:52, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Anna, I'm personally sad to see you leave the UFC omnibus debate. You were obviously the most well versed with specific WP guidelines and how to convincingly back up an argument citing policies etc. The majority of people that are going to be adversely affected by TreyGeek and MtKing are just casual users like me that came to WP to view the single event pages because they are the best single sources of consolidated, easy to use, information regarding the event - sounds like that pretty well meets the intent of WP's existence if you ask me. What is ultimately going to happen is after they get done slashing and burning as much of the UFC/MMA articles as they can, people like me are simply going to stop using WP because it will be pointless. The omnibussing just does not work for these type of articles. I don't know anything about how the ultimate decision to keep articles or move to omnibussing gets decided. All I know how to do is voice my opinion which I've done, but those guys obviously don't care what the vast majority of users think and I imagine are just going to go through with the conversion. Ultimately I just wanted to say thanks for your input on the matter, take care. Pull lead ( talk) 20:50, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
My personal opinion is that since the UFC is the premier Mixed Martial Arts organization and has literally built the sport upon its shoulders since the sports inception in 1993 that its events should have single articles. As you are aware, the traffic clearly merits it. I also think that PRIDE Fighting Championships (a defunct Japanese organization that ran from 1997 to 2007) should also have its events as single articles because it was equally as important in the explosion of the sport's evolution. From 2000-2007 the sports best fighters were in Pride which is the time when the sport really grew from a fringe spectacle into a mainstream sport and the Pride events are largely the reason for it. I do think that pretty much every other minor organization could be without much opposition included in an omnibus such as EliteXC, WEC, Jungle Fight, King of the Cage, BAMMA, Strikeforce, and whatever other minor league shows have events with single articles. If all a minor organzation's event article includes is simply the fight results and no other valuable data then I personally wouldn't oppose to it being omnibus. I guess in the end I still don't understand the purpose of the omnibus in the first place. It just creates one extremely large, nonuser friendly conglomeration of event data. It also makes it more cumbersome to view events because it isn't convenient to access the thing at the bottom of each event page that has links to all other events. It's not like it saves any space and it isn't as though there are other articles that would be called UFC on FX: Diaz vs. Miller that currently cannot exist because of the UFC's event article. The idea behind the witch hunt has never even attempted to be clearly communicated, let alone justified in common sense terms. As you say, if an article is vulnerable to AfD, then the omnibus would be a great home for it, but if the UFC's events are piecemealed between single articles and omnibusses it will be a very messy and confusing way to organize the information I think. Pull lead ( talk) 23:59, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi, please have a look at this as I see that you have made a comment previously. ► Philg88 ◄ talk 07:22, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Dear Dr. Frodesiak - from your wonderful contributions I am guessing that you are a biologist who spends quite a bit of time in Hainan. I am neither, but a while back, I wrote the article Turtle farming, which mentions that a lot of those farms are in Hainan. I don't have a photo of one, however: I've never been to Hainan - and anyway, it's unlikely they'd let me in on a farm to take a picture. But if by some chance your professional or personal interests take you to such a farm, a photo will be so much appreciated! -- Vmenkov ( talk) 06:05, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks much for your response! Incidentally, do you think you can categorize this creature (a millipede?), at least to the phylum or class? -- Vmenkov ( talk) 03:54, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
This guy...seems to have stopped, but we'll see.-- kelapstick( bainuu) 02:47, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
There is sometimes no helping the mma fans, the continued removal of a maintenance template meant to attract other editors to find sources to help demonstrate it meets WP:EVENT so that there is no need to delete delete or redirect the article. Mt king (edits) 23:39, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Today is another example of the maturity of the MMA fanboys (I don't know what else to call them). They continue to use sockpuppets to avoid bans and attack everyone who disagrees with them by vandalizing their user and talk pages, and even their edits. Just today I was called a sockpuppet, vandal, dick, and troll--all before I'd made any edits. Even edits on articles about non-MMA subjects were targeted.
Their belief that nothing MMA can be removed is shown by the fact that removal of articles on events by organizations that aren't even second tier are derided. Given the long and illustrious history of American boxing there are 100 articles on American boxers, yet there are 842 articles on American MMA fighters for a relatively new sport. I believe most of them have never fought for a major promotion and even fewer meet WP:MMANOT#Fighters. I've seen articles on people who haven't even fought MMA, but have announced they're going to. Papaursa ( talk) 23:56, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi. One horrible machine translation, or so it seems. Needs a rescue from someone who knows something about the subject, and/or someone who can understand the Chinese original. Or possibly it may need the prod endorsing as non-notable... Peridon ( talk) 18:04, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for keeping an eye on it. Mt king (edits) 05:10, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
“ | This IP Address 81.178.38.169 has openly threatened my family through a scathing letter and even wrote to my school for writing an honest message on his talk page, believing it was harassing him. Yasht, I will agree at this stage it did get out of hand, because he was using language not appropriate and he made something big out of threatening to complain to JasperDeng. I just spoke for him, and then this threats against my school and family? Forget it, I can't work under an environment here. To people, I have been retiring weekly because I don't feel the need to work, but then I keep coming back, Wikipedia was hard to give up. Now I don't want to come back because of what one IP address has done. | ” |
This is the reason behind his retirment.
Yash
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Tom Morris (
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I have no idea what to make of any of this.
Anna Frodesiak (
talk) 22:43, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
You forgot when talking about consensus to mention WP:LOCALCONSENSUS. MMA fanboys agreeing something can't override wider policy, we all know that the fans like the pages, I am sure NFL fans would like a page on every NFL game, or Cricket fans would love a page on every test match, or netball fans on their sport. In the cases of these AfD's none of the MMA fans are using valid reasons to why MMA should be exempt from the existing policies. Mt king (edits) 02:36, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi Anna F,
A big thankyou for all your assistance on the MMA issue. I appreciate your efforts and your frustration that MMA supporters are not better at expressing themselves in the correct WP manner.
you might want to have a look at http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/4/23/2968208/some-goon-on-wikipedia-is-trying-to-get-all-of-the-ufc-event-pages
If you get past some of the victrol (MMA fans are passionate) you will see you have some fans!, but there is also a lot of confusion on how to go about defending thier sports' notoriety and wiki pages. Perhaps you could consider either posting in the thread or creating a thread to give some hints and tips to the uninitiated?
PS I have created this account just to send this message - i will try to learn more myself to assist in this endeavour
Many Thanks, Trok333 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trok333 ( talk • contribs) 05:00, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
If you want to have a personal discussion, discuss it on my talk or your talk. If the standard of discussion in a formal procedure is that an editor's years old contributions will be questioned, the subject under discussion will never be discussed. BusterD ( talk) 14:18, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the recent note. I should also be thanking you for all of the outstanding work you've been adding to all of these discussions. I appreciate it. Udar55 ( talk) 14:23, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
For being the only sane person in the MMA-related AfDs, ma'am. Teamsleep ( talk) 22:48, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
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Frankly Anna, I can't see what you are contributing to the MMA debate, you seem to be in it to cause a drama; last night you posted what can only be discribed as a rant against my redirection of the UFC pages yet not 3 weeks past you told me to restore them with your blessing. You complain about my tactics, but respond to threats of off-wiki forums to track down editors with the phrase "That sucks and I'm sorry to hear about it." you also fail to acknowledge that the MMA side has been using socks, votestacking, off and on wiki canvassing (you yourself come very close to it with cross posting links to AfD) I have lost count of the number of IP's and editors blocked for socking at MMA AfD's. I could go on and on about lack of sources from non-mma media, sources from after the event, lack of prose covering the actual event rather than just gosip leading up to the event, but what's the point ? I am as unlike to convince you that they need to demonstrate any claim to enduring notability as you are to convince me that they are automatically notable. Mt king (edits) 05:46, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Yes we can work together, the issue is that WP wants prose the fans want stats, gossip etc, WP demands verifiability, the fans want instant results, they don't care about sources citations, look at the article history of UFC 145 last weekend when the event was on, I cant see how both sides can reach a compromise here. Mt king (edits) 11:36, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
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First I want to say you were right to call me out for making an ad-hominem against Mtking, as no matter how much a situation may irritate me, those sorts of things are not conductive to any greater resolution of an argument. Much more than that, I want to thank you for your tireless dedication to protecting the MMA project. Your superb work has been extremely valuable, as has your unyielding integrity. I am very grateful for what you are doing. Beansy ( talk) 23:21, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm glad to see you haven't given up on contributing to the back pages of these UFC articles. Like you advised, I contacted an administrator (the one in charge of the UFC 142 AfD) to help arbitrate what will most likely turn in to a heated discussion about WP:MMANOT. I, too, got discouraged while talking about these pages. But, I believe that if we stick with this discussion, and try our best to compromise, we can reach a conclusion that will hopefully make both sides happy. -- Pat talk 02:35, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
First I must ask: Is your aim to see them fixed rather than deleted? If these articles are fixed up, can they stand on their own two feet? What percentage? Can all of them be well-sourced, contain prose, and be notable enough? What's your prognosis?
Okay. Here's the plan:
THE END :)
Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 12:36, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Hey there Anna,
Like you, I've seen the depth at which the current dispute exists in terms of it's degradation of civility, constructiveness and inter-editor relations over time. So too like you, I have tried in my own way to restore equality, however my approach may not have been one of admirable results in the past, though my now heavily neutral approach should rectify this.
But I drift from the point, up till now, as a relatively recent addition to the wiki community, I've been nervous about making modifications on a whole to the wiki itself and instead have focussed my efforts on reverting vandalism, trying to stick up for those who appearing to be victim to cyber-bullying on any level or suggesting edits. However, my strong sense of discomfort at seeing this developing issue and what appears to be many users, myself too in one occassion, becoming victim to sweeping generalisation and dismissal or even degradation and labeling has ignited that part of me which strongly objects to any form of intimidation, manipulation, namecalling and stereotyping and compelled me to push to make a more visible effort to defend the values of morality and this wiki than I had been doing so up to this point.
Of course, being a newbie myself, I was hoping that seeing you, a long term editor who appears to hold the same moral compass I hold dear, could help me find my bearings through pointing out any articles in need of immediate attention or discussions requiring input. Your assistance at the start of my first steps into significant presence on the visible side of the Page/Talk page boundaries would be greatly appreciated and help me establish as an editor my identity in the sense of how I tackle issues I see.
Many thanks, Terk Terkaal -- <Warning! Self-Confessed Newbie!> ( talk) 10:32, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Anna, I've not looked over your history too much, but from what I've seen in the recent past and the history I did hunt down, I think you'd be an ideal candidate for being an admin. Is there a reason you aren't? Hobit ( talk) 01:30, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Well, I thought about it. A few of the things I do are sort of admin-likeish I organize stuff. I try to stop people from fighting. I sort out a few messes here and there. What would the difference be between being an admin and how I am now? Tools! I just don't have tools. But, I know admins. They have tools. I call. They come and fix. That seems to work out fine.
It's probably best that I wait at least a year before thinking about it again. Thank you all for your kind words and consideration. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 20:12, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
I have replied to your points about videos on the article talk page, but the last bullet of this edit has this sentence:
I think, perhaps, maybe, it is possible that, and this is not an "accusation", your edits might show a teeny bit of Western-centricity.
In replying to your earlier comment accusing me of bias, I chose the word "accuse" deliberately to avoid throwing WP:NPA at you, but that's what it was, and that's what the above is. You don't make a statement not an accusation just by stating that it's not one, and phrasing like "perhaps, maybe, it is possible" and "a teeny bit" doesn't conceal what it fundamentally is: personal criticsm. It seems a shame to have to remind such an experienced editor, with such great contributions that people are suggesting you stand for admin, that the second sentence of WP:NPA says "Comment on content, not on the contributor."
Shall I defend myself against an accusation of Western-centricity? OK, take a look at my contribution history. You'll see that my last actions other than GOCE housekeeping were the removal of non-encyclopedic contact details from Indian CFA. Immediately before that, I closed and implemented the proposed merge of National Youth League (Indian National League) into Indian National League. A few days ago I completed a 9-day major copy edit (in response to a GOCE request) of Pakistan, following which I spent several hours trying to work for a compromise on the thorny issue of how Pakistan's relations with the Taliban (if any) should be represented with NPOV in that article. Please read Talk:Pakistan and tell me whether there is any "Western-centricity" in what I said there.
By the way, in modern times, Phodopus species in the wild have exclusively Asian habitats.
You have placed a video contributed by you in an article, and have accused an editor who removed it of bias in two different ways. Am I biassed? -- Stfg ( talk) 11:03, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Anna, have you heard about the Wikipedia:Education noticeboard? — Ganeshk ( talk) 10:54, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
I found some artciles for my Jjang article but they are in Korean, particulary hangul I think. Do we have a group of people for translations? This is what I want translated. http://www.dwci.co.kr/comic/comic/comics_view.asp?new_gubun=champ&seq=1311&series_seq=1311&book_seq=19783 FusionChamber Come with a partner and be joined as one being. ( talk) 20:17, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you, you're the best.:) FusionLord ( talk) 23:17, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
I'd like to run some general questions by since it seems you've worked on this before. Basically I'm trying to figure out how feasible a couple of user-centric ideas are and how far we can get without running into a wall. Even better if you have time to collaborate a bit or know of any other wiki-savvy editors who'd like to help hammer out something to be approved. It's exciting times and might make for interesting stories. :) Thanks. Agent00f ( talk) 06:07, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
Yash t 101 07:01, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
The Content Creativity Barnstar | ||
A barnstar for your initiative to create Template:Lists of prepared foods. Thanks for working to improve the encyclopedia for the public! Northamerica1000 (talk) 14:29, 4 May 2012 (UTC) |
I've been working to update the article with descriptions— check it out! It sure would look nice to someday be formatted like the List of breads article is, as you mentioned at the article's AfD discussion. Do you think it would be easier to convert after descriptions have been completed? This article has a great potential to become an established, encyclopedic article. Northamerica1000 (talk) 04:09, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Good Job!
Thank you for significantly improving List of pastries with the table addition! |
Please help me here: Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#List_of_domesticated_animals_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.29, if you would. Chrisrus ( talk) 00:08, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Chrisrus ( talk) 18:26, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Two submissions:
What do we do with these? Now they are just sitting in limbo.-- kelapstick( bainuu) 02:08, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Many thanks indeed for being the very first person on my userpage to leave me the notification that I had been nominated for a barn star nomination. This is the very first time this has happened to me in all my years of editing Wikipedia - it really left me excited, and has helped to make my year, so again, thanks a million! All the very best, ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 11:05, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Can I just ask a question please? I see your surname - if it is your real surname - is Frodesiak. Is this a Polish surname? I had always assumed it is, so are you of Polish ancestry? I do not speak Polish, and have heard it is a difficult language to learn. I am a British citizen myself. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 21:04, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
I have been here for a while and want to improve myself. Though I try my best to do the right thing, I may do something wrong. As you have seen me work, can you please leave me a review as I want to know where I stand so far and what should I improve to be a good editor. Your opinion has always been valuable and your review can help. Thanks :) Yash t 101 08:22, 9 May 2012 (UTC)