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Frequently asked questions Q1. Why is Ukraine listed as the second-largest country in Europe? France is. (Or alternately, Denmark is.)
It's an ambiguous statement, and depends on whether you include non-European territories or not, and whether you include disputed territories or not. The totality of France (which includes
French Guiana) is larger than Ukraine, but the European part of France (
Metropolitan France) is smaller than Ukraine. Although Denmark is in Europe, Greenland is in North America. Q2. Kyiv or Kiev?
This is a topic for discussion at
Talk:Kyiv. The current transliteration is based on the Ukrainian spelling of the name: "Kyiv" (pronounced "KEE-ev"). The Russian version is "Kiev" (pronounced "KEE-ef") is associated with the
Russification of Ukraine. Source:.
"Slownik geograficzny Krolestwa Polskiego i innych krajow slowianskich". Druk „Wieku” Nowy Świat. 1883. Archived from
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The claim in the introduction is that Ukraine is the second largest country in Europe after only Russia. This page lists its total area as 603,000 km², which is a figure including all occupied territories. The Wikipedia page for France gives it an area of 643,000 km². If occupied territories are excluded this may fall behind Spain and Sweden too but it's consistent to use internationally recognized borders. I think the claim should either be revised to 3rd or removed altogether as it doesn't seem important enough to state in the introduction. 75.252.22.168 ( talk) 17:31, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi, @ Chipmunkdavis, about your revert with the edit summary “discussed before and standard practice.” [1] Including battle lines on locator maps is not standard practice and does not follow any reliable sources. Including two-years-out-of-date battle lines on a level 3 vital article and top-importance article to WikiProject Ukraine is ridiculous.
Previous discussion was inconclusive, so we should include locator maps with information that is up-to-date, accurate, and not in dispute. — Michael Z. 02:02, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
I also see no reason to depict the Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine prior to the 2022 invasion in light green. Essentially, there are only two viable options: display a straightforward map without the war zone, or represent all Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine in light green. Throughout 2023, the front line remained relatively stable, similar to the 2015-2022 front line. Consequently, the choices should be either File:Europe-Ukraine.svg or File:Europe-Ukraine (disputed territory).svg, but not File:Europe-Ukraine (и не контролируемые).png. -- Yorkporter ( talk) 09:31, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
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− | The | + | The [[name of Ukraine]] is frequently interpreted as coming from the [[old Slavic]] term for 'borderland' as is the word ''[[krajina]].'' Another interpretation is that the [[name of Ukraine]] means "region" or "country." |
BowTieTuba ( talk) 06:48, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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The article currently states "The internet in the country is robust because it is diverse." but this doesn't really mean anything.
The Internet is robust. It is robust because of redundancy. The Internet is not geographically correlated, though. Even if more servers are provisioned from America, that is transparent to end users. So saying "The internet in the country" is meaningless; even if there are no servers in the Ukrainian countryside and few servers in Ukrainian cities, The Internet itself neither notices nor cares and it continues to be robust regardless of physical or political borders.
Saying "because it is diverse" is vague; is it referring to how The Internet exchanges data via UDP (which is less reliable) as well as IPv4 and IPv6? The Internet being robust is not anything special to do with Ukraine but is a property arising from its location-agnostic design.
Please reword this statement to get away from series of tubes-like handwavium. 49.180.106.148 ( talk) 11:35, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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The Ukraine global map should be changed to "Ukraine - disputed 2022 (orthographic projection).svg" as it is currently disputed territory with Russia Khrom3ium ( talk) 05:23, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
The map in the section titled "Under foreign domination" - the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth - needs the words "superimposed on modern borders" added to it, as per the original upload onto WikiCommons here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Polish-Lithuanian_Commonwealth_at_its_maximum_extent.svg 14.2.196.234 ( talk) 05:02, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
In the quick facts section it's stated that the driving side is on the right, having been there on numerous occasions, people drive on the left in Ukraine . Thanks for correcting Naguizz ( talk) 22:43, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Not done: You provide no sources and a quick Google search shows this is incorrect. // Timothy :: talk 23:30, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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185.12.14.2 ( talk) 19:47, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Я хочу исправить некоторые недочёты в статье "Вторжение России на Украину",поменять шрифт на более крупный и выразительный.
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185.12.14.2 ( talk) 19:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Я хочу изменить шрифт на более выразительный в статье "Ukraine"
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Frequently asked questions Q1. Why is Ukraine listed as the second-largest country in Europe? France is. (Or alternately, Denmark is.)
It's an ambiguous statement, and depends on whether you include non-European territories or not, and whether you include disputed territories or not. The totality of France (which includes
French Guiana) is larger than Ukraine, but the European part of France (
Metropolitan France) is smaller than Ukraine. Although Denmark is in Europe, Greenland is in North America. Q2. Kyiv or Kiev?
This is a topic for discussion at
Talk:Kyiv. The current transliteration is based on the Ukrainian spelling of the name: "Kyiv" (pronounced "KEE-ev"). The Russian version is "Kiev" (pronounced "KEE-ef") is associated with the
Russification of Ukraine. Source:.
"Slownik geograficzny Krolestwa Polskiego i innych krajow slowianskich". Druk „Wieku” Nowy Świat. 1883. Archived from
the original on 5 March 2022. |
Ukraine was one of the Geography and places good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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On 28 July 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Ukraine to The Ukraine. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
This article has been viewed enough times in a single year to make it into the Top 50 Report annual list. This happened in 2014 and 2022. |
This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the
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The claim in the introduction is that Ukraine is the second largest country in Europe after only Russia. This page lists its total area as 603,000 km², which is a figure including all occupied territories. The Wikipedia page for France gives it an area of 643,000 km². If occupied territories are excluded this may fall behind Spain and Sweden too but it's consistent to use internationally recognized borders. I think the claim should either be revised to 3rd or removed altogether as it doesn't seem important enough to state in the introduction. 75.252.22.168 ( talk) 17:31, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi, @ Chipmunkdavis, about your revert with the edit summary “discussed before and standard practice.” [1] Including battle lines on locator maps is not standard practice and does not follow any reliable sources. Including two-years-out-of-date battle lines on a level 3 vital article and top-importance article to WikiProject Ukraine is ridiculous.
Previous discussion was inconclusive, so we should include locator maps with information that is up-to-date, accurate, and not in dispute. — Michael Z. 02:02, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
I also see no reason to depict the Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine prior to the 2022 invasion in light green. Essentially, there are only two viable options: display a straightforward map without the war zone, or represent all Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine in light green. Throughout 2023, the front line remained relatively stable, similar to the 2015-2022 front line. Consequently, the choices should be either File:Europe-Ukraine.svg or File:Europe-Ukraine (disputed territory).svg, but not File:Europe-Ukraine (и не контролируемые).png. -- Yorkporter ( talk) 09:31, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Beshogur ( talk) 16:20, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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− | The | + | The [[name of Ukraine]] is frequently interpreted as coming from the [[old Slavic]] term for 'borderland' as is the word ''[[krajina]].'' Another interpretation is that the [[name of Ukraine]] means "region" or "country." |
BowTieTuba ( talk) 06:48, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
References
The article currently states "The internet in the country is robust because it is diverse." but this doesn't really mean anything.
The Internet is robust. It is robust because of redundancy. The Internet is not geographically correlated, though. Even if more servers are provisioned from America, that is transparent to end users. So saying "The internet in the country" is meaningless; even if there are no servers in the Ukrainian countryside and few servers in Ukrainian cities, The Internet itself neither notices nor cares and it continues to be robust regardless of physical or political borders.
Saying "because it is diverse" is vague; is it referring to how The Internet exchanges data via UDP (which is less reliable) as well as IPv4 and IPv6? The Internet being robust is not anything special to do with Ukraine but is a property arising from its location-agnostic design.
Please reword this statement to get away from series of tubes-like handwavium. 49.180.106.148 ( talk) 11:35, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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The Ukraine global map should be changed to "Ukraine - disputed 2022 (orthographic projection).svg" as it is currently disputed territory with Russia Khrom3ium ( talk) 05:23, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
The map in the section titled "Under foreign domination" - the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth - needs the words "superimposed on modern borders" added to it, as per the original upload onto WikiCommons here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Polish-Lithuanian_Commonwealth_at_its_maximum_extent.svg 14.2.196.234 ( talk) 05:02, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
In the quick facts section it's stated that the driving side is on the right, having been there on numerous occasions, people drive on the left in Ukraine . Thanks for correcting Naguizz ( talk) 22:43, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Not done: You provide no sources and a quick Google search shows this is incorrect. // Timothy :: talk 23:30, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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185.12.14.2 ( talk) 19:47, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Я хочу исправить некоторые недочёты в статье "Вторжение России на Украину",поменять шрифт на более крупный и выразительный.
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185.12.14.2 ( talk) 19:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Я хочу изменить шрифт на более выразительный в статье "Ukraine"
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