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On 29 March 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Habsburg Monarchy to Habsburg monarchy. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Would benefit the article. Ksenon 18:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I see the text "susan kroh was a very important asset to austria's devolepment" at the beginning of this article's text, but when I try to delete it, it does not appear in the edit box. Can someone fix it? Juro 00:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
As an Native Austrian and History Student I tried to complete and correct the Habsburg Monarchy article by adding facts and doing some detail corrections, by using Material and Sources here from Austria. If my work can help to make Wikipedia better and to provide its users correct Informations, I´m very happy to do so.
Yours Xandl Hofer November 6th 2008 (23:08) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.124.101.62 ( talk) 22:09, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was not moved. -- BDD ( talk) 19:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Habsburg Monarchy → Habsburg Hereditary Lands – As the Habsburg possessions never really formed a single entity, (unlike the Austrian Empire) as the name "Habsburg Monarchy" suggests, (like the " Austro-Hungarian Monarchy"). Rather the lands were simply a loose collection of different territories inherited by the members of the House of Habsburg. With only limited centralisation. TRAJAN 117 ( talk) 23:23, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
I do not understand the use of the word "appellation" in the lead paragraph:
"The Habsburg Monarchy (or Habsburg Empire) is an unofficial appellation amongst historians for the countries and provinces which were ruled by the junior Austrian branch of the House of Habsburg (1278–1780),"
The link provided is extremely unhelpful:
"An appellation is a legally defined and protected geographical indication used to identify where the grapes for a wine were grown; other types of food often have appellations as well. Restrictions other than geographical boundaries, such as what grapes may be grown, maximum grape yields, alcohol level, and other quality factors, may also apply before an appellation name may legally appear on a wine bottle label."
I really don't see what an "appellation" has to do with the Habsburg Monarchy.
??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.23.203.39 ( talk) 14:57, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
That shouldn't redirect here, as it refers to a distinct concept from the subject of this article. The term "Habsburg Hereditary Lands" refers not to "all territories held on a hereditary basis by the House of Habsburg" but specifically to the lands held by the Austrian branch of the Habsburgs prior to 1526 - that is, to Upper and Lower Austria, Styria, Carinthia, Carniola, the littoral provinces, Tyrol, the Vorarlberg, and the Vorlände in Southwest Germany. It does not include the Burgundian Lands, the various Iberian and Italian territories, the Lands of the Bohemian Crown, Hungary, or the lands taken in the partitions of Poland, even though some of those territories were held by the family on a hereditary basis. There ought to be an article specifically about the Hereditary Lands, which comprised most of the territory of the present-day Republics of Austria and Slovenia, as well as some territories now in Croatia, Italy, and Germany. john k ( talk) 17:55, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Link to the Habsburg family tree redirects to the french wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.48.161.76 ( talk) 10 December 2013
Why is the 1556 the start date and why Spanish is all absent? they were Habsburg as anyone else? Hóseás ( talk) 11:37, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Austrian Monarchy Austrian Empire existed only from 1804. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.38.182.33 ( talk) 14:23, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
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Until I read this page, I'd always known it as the "Hapsburg Empire". But I see that that is merely a redirect to this article's page, which uses the spelling "Habsburg" exclusively. Is "Hapsburg" a misspelling? If so, then it appears to be a common one, and therefore should perhaps be noted as such somewhere in the article. Ross Finlayson ( talk) 12:48, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
@ Barjimoa: I don't think we need to detail the Habsburg marriages of the 15th century in the lead of an article that should rightly concentrate on the post-1558 (and even post-1700) period. Srnec ( talk) 12:44, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Is this about the Habsburg Monarchy which existed from 1526 to 1804 or the Habsburgs in general? Kanto7 ( talk) 04:50, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
The was a section with portrait paintings of members of the Habsburg house. I can find it anymore. Does anybody have an idea what happened? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ammartaibi ( talk • contribs) 06:29, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. There is consensus that the sources do not capitalize "monarchy" often enough to meet MOS:CAPS's substantial-majority threshold. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 05:23, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Habsburg Monarchy → Habsburg monarchy – Case norm; sentence case per WP:NCCAPS; MOS:CAPS; most books on the topic use "Habsburg monarchy" in sentences. Dicklyon ( talk) 01:02, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
FWIW, this RM was closed rather too quickly, with only 4 editors input. GoodDay ( talk) 09:32, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Habsburg Empire officially did not exist, you can not found this term in official seals in official letters neither in any official documents. It was an umbrella term coined/invented by historians.-- Longsars ( talk) 16:30, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
If I understand correctly by their edit summaries ( [5]), User23242343 thinks that the Holy Roman Empire and the Habsburg monarchy are "not coterminous" (not the same political entity), but this claim is not sourced and doesn't justify in any way the persistent and unjustified removal of historically relevant informations from this article. User23242343, please provide a further explanation for your edits and academic, reliable references which demonstrate that the Holy Roman Empire and the Habsburg monarchy are allegedly unrelated political entities. GenoV84 ( talk) 18:57, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
Were the two polities conterminous? And hence should the infobox of this article use the symbols and other data of the
Holy Roman Empire? 10:56, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
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On 29 March 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Habsburg Monarchy to Habsburg monarchy. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Would benefit the article. Ksenon 18:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I see the text "susan kroh was a very important asset to austria's devolepment" at the beginning of this article's text, but when I try to delete it, it does not appear in the edit box. Can someone fix it? Juro 00:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
As an Native Austrian and History Student I tried to complete and correct the Habsburg Monarchy article by adding facts and doing some detail corrections, by using Material and Sources here from Austria. If my work can help to make Wikipedia better and to provide its users correct Informations, I´m very happy to do so.
Yours Xandl Hofer November 6th 2008 (23:08) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.124.101.62 ( talk) 22:09, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was not moved. -- BDD ( talk) 19:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Habsburg Monarchy → Habsburg Hereditary Lands – As the Habsburg possessions never really formed a single entity, (unlike the Austrian Empire) as the name "Habsburg Monarchy" suggests, (like the " Austro-Hungarian Monarchy"). Rather the lands were simply a loose collection of different territories inherited by the members of the House of Habsburg. With only limited centralisation. TRAJAN 117 ( talk) 23:23, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
I do not understand the use of the word "appellation" in the lead paragraph:
"The Habsburg Monarchy (or Habsburg Empire) is an unofficial appellation amongst historians for the countries and provinces which were ruled by the junior Austrian branch of the House of Habsburg (1278–1780),"
The link provided is extremely unhelpful:
"An appellation is a legally defined and protected geographical indication used to identify where the grapes for a wine were grown; other types of food often have appellations as well. Restrictions other than geographical boundaries, such as what grapes may be grown, maximum grape yields, alcohol level, and other quality factors, may also apply before an appellation name may legally appear on a wine bottle label."
I really don't see what an "appellation" has to do with the Habsburg Monarchy.
??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.23.203.39 ( talk) 14:57, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
That shouldn't redirect here, as it refers to a distinct concept from the subject of this article. The term "Habsburg Hereditary Lands" refers not to "all territories held on a hereditary basis by the House of Habsburg" but specifically to the lands held by the Austrian branch of the Habsburgs prior to 1526 - that is, to Upper and Lower Austria, Styria, Carinthia, Carniola, the littoral provinces, Tyrol, the Vorarlberg, and the Vorlände in Southwest Germany. It does not include the Burgundian Lands, the various Iberian and Italian territories, the Lands of the Bohemian Crown, Hungary, or the lands taken in the partitions of Poland, even though some of those territories were held by the family on a hereditary basis. There ought to be an article specifically about the Hereditary Lands, which comprised most of the territory of the present-day Republics of Austria and Slovenia, as well as some territories now in Croatia, Italy, and Germany. john k ( talk) 17:55, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Link to the Habsburg family tree redirects to the french wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.48.161.76 ( talk) 10 December 2013
Why is the 1556 the start date and why Spanish is all absent? they were Habsburg as anyone else? Hóseás ( talk) 11:37, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Austrian Monarchy Austrian Empire existed only from 1804. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.38.182.33 ( talk) 14:23, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
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Until I read this page, I'd always known it as the "Hapsburg Empire". But I see that that is merely a redirect to this article's page, which uses the spelling "Habsburg" exclusively. Is "Hapsburg" a misspelling? If so, then it appears to be a common one, and therefore should perhaps be noted as such somewhere in the article. Ross Finlayson ( talk) 12:48, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
@ Barjimoa: I don't think we need to detail the Habsburg marriages of the 15th century in the lead of an article that should rightly concentrate on the post-1558 (and even post-1700) period. Srnec ( talk) 12:44, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Is this about the Habsburg Monarchy which existed from 1526 to 1804 or the Habsburgs in general? Kanto7 ( talk) 04:50, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
The was a section with portrait paintings of members of the Habsburg house. I can find it anymore. Does anybody have an idea what happened? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ammartaibi ( talk • contribs) 06:29, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. There is consensus that the sources do not capitalize "monarchy" often enough to meet MOS:CAPS's substantial-majority threshold. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 05:23, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Habsburg Monarchy → Habsburg monarchy – Case norm; sentence case per WP:NCCAPS; MOS:CAPS; most books on the topic use "Habsburg monarchy" in sentences. Dicklyon ( talk) 01:02, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
FWIW, this RM was closed rather too quickly, with only 4 editors input. GoodDay ( talk) 09:32, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Habsburg Empire officially did not exist, you can not found this term in official seals in official letters neither in any official documents. It was an umbrella term coined/invented by historians.-- Longsars ( talk) 16:30, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
If I understand correctly by their edit summaries ( [5]), User23242343 thinks that the Holy Roman Empire and the Habsburg monarchy are "not coterminous" (not the same political entity), but this claim is not sourced and doesn't justify in any way the persistent and unjustified removal of historically relevant informations from this article. User23242343, please provide a further explanation for your edits and academic, reliable references which demonstrate that the Holy Roman Empire and the Habsburg monarchy are allegedly unrelated political entities. GenoV84 ( talk) 18:57, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
Were the two polities conterminous? And hence should the infobox of this article use the symbols and other data of the
Holy Roman Empire? 10:56, 20 May 2023 (UTC)