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I removed this as it's not an Apogee game. George Broussard did write the game while in the employ of Apogee, but it was never intended to be an Apogee title. It was written and published by Softdisk. The reason for this was that they'd let id Software out of their contract with them so they could do games for Apogee instead.
I should know, I work here at Apogee - this is Joe Siegler, webmaster for the company. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dopefish ( talk • contribs) 9 February 2006.
Sorry Teklund for my wording, i'm dyslexic and tend to write very convolutedly, however I did include new information with my contribution such as;
Now I have spent about 2 hours going over my new new alterations to make it seem less convoluted. Your welcome to revert my alterations as long as you include the above 5 points yourself. Oh btw, as for my headings, Shareware and Background, you can remove them if you want.. I just felt that their was two logical sections that may at a later date be expanded. But, by all means remove them, just keep the facts.
Thanks, im flexible though, if you dont like any/all of my 5 points we can discuss it :). - UnlimitedAccess 9 July 2005 15:20 (UTC)
Are The Computer Quiz, The Astronomy Quiz and The IBM BASIC Quiz also Apogee games? Or are those Softdisk games / Scott Miller games? 81.70.123.72 11:41, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm talking about The Computer Quiz, The Astronomy Quiz and the IBM BASIC Quiz, not the Star Trek trivia games. 81.70.123.72 10:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Bleh, sorry for the vandalism earlier. I'm kind of the caretaker of the dorm IP address and some people think it's funny to edit entries for fun and get everyone banned from contributing. Shadowrun 05:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Why do we need two different pages for the same company just because they changed their name? The Apogee Software page should be merged into this one as soon as possible. -- Grandpafootsoldier 02:15, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
So, should it be reversed? I say yes. Hbdragon88 05:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm unsure if the above game exists, as clicking on the link links to a game called Vivisector, which is by another company. Can anyone explain this? Ultim87 02:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
in the "Current state and products" we should mention th max payne movie heres a link to some info about it http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0467197/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pauldonald86 ( talk • contribs) 18:53, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to change it, but Apogee should no longer refer to 3d realms: http://www.totalvideogames.com/news/Apogee_Returns_With_Duke_Nukem_Trilogy_13478_7697_0.htm
Happyness! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.164.12.77 ( talk) 17:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
It turns out that there are 3 new games coming to PSP and DS. Critical Mass, Chain Reaction, and Proving Grounds are the names all done by Deep Silver and Apogee. I didn't know where else to go but somebody should start these pages. Here's a link http://ds.ign.com/articles/890/890668p1.html Zabbethx ( talk) 17:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Actually those games are NOT by 3D Realms, they are done by this new company Apogee Software, LLC which is unrelated to 3D Realms/Apogee Software, Ltd. Similarly Prey 2 and Earth No More have been transferred over to Radar Group and are no longer 3D Realms games and therefore shouldn't be on this list. Incarnate never was a 3D Realms game as it has been a Radar Group game from its conception and therefore shouldn't be on the list of games either, Radar Group also isn't related to 3D Realms(or the new Apogee Software) Kristian Joensen ( talk) 12:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no move. JPG-GR ( talk) 05:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
3D Realms → Apogee Software — This is the official name of the company and new games will once again be published under this name. — MrKIA11 ( talk) 23:06, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
or *'''Oppose'''
, then sign your comment with ~~~~
. Since
polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's naming conventions.(This is a continuation of the discussion in the move proposal above) Be careful, the company that will publish new games is ANOTHER company, Apogee Software LLC, not Apogee Software Ltd, which will be just licensing the name from the original Apogee... so in fact, the Apogee company in the article will only continue to publish games under 3D Realms (it's very confusing). Though I agree that the official name is Apogee Software, in practice the name they use right now and will continue to use is 3D Realms, so it actually makes sense retaining that name (as per WP:Naming#Use_the_most_easily_recognized_name). This is not a strong oppose though (I used to support the idea), so if someone has better arguments to support it... -- Sega381 ( talk) 04:43, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Why did Id software say that Apogee would no longer publish their games? Enco1984 ( talk) 06:26, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
"Although in its earliest stages, Doom was still an Apogee title."
I don't doubt the factual accuracy of this statement, but a source here would be informative. The earliest version of DOOM I've seen was an early test demo "alpha" [5]. I don't recall any reference to Apogee here, or any mention of this in David Kushner's book MoD, but I could be mistaken.
Spazzmatic ( talk) 01:12, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
According to the book masters of doom Apogee wasn't doing a good job selling there games. They didn't have enough people manning the phones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.216.124.170 ( talk) 22:56, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Doom was never an Apogee title, in fact, id did not even start work on Doom until after they moved into Suite 666 (post-Apogee). MoD (Pg. 124) 68.193.255.54 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:28, 27 June 2009 (UTC).
There's word that 3D Realms may have been shut down, but its only as best-guess speculation (no one in 3D realms has confirmed). [6] Please watch for vandals and false info. -- MASEM ( t) 00:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I love how this is considered an encyclopedic term. Even if it is worthy of a wiki, it's hardly legitimate in use in an encyclopedia; it just sounds too much like insider-industry slang. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.133.61.34 ( talk) 04:44, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
All the forums are locked on the 3DR page, it looks like it's all over. Unless of course this is a big publicity stunt, although a company member called Joe Siegler said: "It's not a marketing thing. It's true. I have nothing further to say at this time." Stuffs in the BBC article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.216.124.170 ( talk) 22:59, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Tell me if I'm wrong, but I do belive that 3d Realms are defunct. Am I wrong? mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool ( talk) 18:50, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know exactly how defunct 3D Realms is? As far as I know they no longer have employees (except management), but have they filed bankruptcy? If not, I presume 3D Realms still exists as a company in possession of assets (such as DNF) they could choose to sell or not to sell. Take Two does not own the game, they just have a deal to publish it. – Lakefall ( talk) 16:42, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
I removed the bold faced lie that 3D Realms is not operating from the beginning of the article. A company that will release its next game next week and has upwards of 12 projects in the works is most certainly operating Kristian Joensen ( talk) 21:52, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Both of the XBLA titles should go on the list of titles developed since they were done internally as can be seen by their credits: [8] and [9] This is also verified by their MS homepages:
Hence I will be moving them to that section 88.85.52.191 ( talk) 14:21, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
DNF DLC and Duke3D Android are mentioned here: [13]
Machineworks Northwest is mentioned as the publisher(and developer?) of Duke3D for Android here: [14]
Sources for Shadow Warrior iOS(These could also be used to update the Shadow Warrior article): [15], [16]
3D Realms have also signed up with GoG.com, initially releasing Shadow Warrior and Terminal Velocity: [17]
Then following that up with releasing Duke Nukem 1 and 2: [18] Notice that the previous 3DR games released on GoG were put there by the new Apogee. Also notice that Shadow Warrior on GoG was published by Devolver Digital: [19]
This is a somewhat notable fact but I don't think there is any reliable source about that in it self, but this article could merely note it as a fact and the Shadow Warrior article could be updated with that info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.85.52.191 ( talk) 19:14, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
I put this here because there has been some confusion over 3D Realms' ownership structure. A few years back Danish company SDN Invest ApS acquired 3D Realms. This same company had invested in the development studio Interceptor Entertainment and owned as far as I can remember about 20% of that company. SDN Invest was owned 100% by Mike Secher Dalsgaard Nielsen. Later he transferred his 3D Realms shares to another company wholly owned by him, MDN Holding ApS. Inteceptor meanwhile was voluntarily liquidated and a new development studio Slipgate Studios took over its development of the game Rad Rodgers. The Rad Rodgers IP was later sold to THQ Nordic. Slipgate Studios ApS is wholly owned by Slipgate Holding ApS itself in turn wholly owned by Kent Hedegaard Christoffersen. Public records reflect that on March 30, 2018 3D Realms ownership was changed such that it still remains a subsidiary of MDN Holding ApS but it is no longer wholly owned by that company, now that company owns "66,67-89,99%" of 3D Realms and Slipgate Studios owns "20-24,99%". That fact is reflected in the ownership tab here: [1]
That source in turn lists "Mike Secher Dalsgaard Nielsen" as a beneficial owner, on account of owning 100% of MDN Holding ApS, of 80% of 3D Realms.
That Mike Secher Dalsgaard Nielsen owns 100% of MDN Holding ApS can be seen on the ownership tab here: [2]
That Kent Hedegaard Christoffersen owns 100% of Slipgate Holdings ApS is reflected on the ownership tab here: [3]
That Slipgate Holdings ApS(and thereby indirectly Kent Hedegaard Christoffersen) owns 100% of Slipgate Studios is reflected on the ownership tab here: [4]
3D Realms Entertainment ApS' latest financials available here say, on the last page, that it owns 95% of Apogee Software, Ltd, d/b/a 3D Realms and 100% of Action Entertainment, Inc and that Action Entertainment Inc owns the remaining 5% of Apogee Software, Ltd, d/b/a 3D Realms: [5]
Mike Secher Dalsgaard Nielsen' position as CEO & President of 3D Realms can be verified here: [6] (This can incidentally also be used as a source for the infobox field on the number of 3D Realms employees,
An entity search here for "Action Entertainment" and choosing the last entry and then choosing "public information report" reveals that Mike Nielsen is the "President" and "Director" of that company: [7]
Sources for THQ Nordic acquiring the Rad Rodgers IP can be found here: [8] and [9]
On a completely different note, doesn't this article give undue weight to lawsuits involving 3D Realms? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.55.50.10 ( talk) 14:50, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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You do realize that there are two companies called Apogee Software with the SAME PURPOSE, right? One's 3D Realms, and the other is licensed by 3D Realms and called Apogee. How does that happen?
2600:1702:25A0:B070:603C:7B53:C68C:BB75 ( talk) 02:30, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi all! On behalf of Scott Miller, I'd like to propose some updates to this article (and other 3D Realms-adjacent articles, like List of 3D Realms games). There are some inaccuracies that Miller noticed, and I've offered to bring them to the attention of the community. Since I've been in direct contact with Miller and he's offered to pay, this puts me in COI territory so I'm posting here rather than making the changes myself.
Here's the gist of it: Wikipedia is currently treating two companies called 3D Realms as a single entity. Mike Nielsen only acquired the rights to the brand in 2014. The rights to the existing IP stayed with Apogee, which in 2021 was relaunched as Apogee Entertainment. Nielsen clarifies in this Rock, Paper, Shotgun interview that he specifically purchased the 3D Realms brand and Apogee remained a separate entity. Miller also states in this GamesIndustry.biz article that the current 3D Realms is a separate company.
My suggestion would be to handle this like we handle Telltale Games: like how Telltale Games covers the original company and Telltale Games (2018–present) covers the new one, 3D Realms covers the original company while 3D Realms (2014–present) covers the new one. List of 3D Realms games would need to be updated to reflect this, as would the links in articles for games like Bombshell and Ion Fury. JOE BRO 64 15:37, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
In 2022, Miller publicly distanced himself from the Embracer-owned 3D Realms. He said that "3D Realms no longer has any link to the past, other than in name only" because he was no longer there to help design and fund games. [1]
Following the acquisition, 3D Realms was relaunched in October 2014, [2] [3] and incorporated as 3D Realms Entertainment ApS in 2015. [4]
Alright, here's a clear list of changes based on my now-complete research. I apologize for not formatting it like this earlier, IceWelder and PresN—this is the first and only time I'll ever do COI editing, and Miller didn't provide me with any text or sources other than what his issues were, so I was a little confused at first. Everything here is backed by a good source and I've done my best to remain neutral.
And there you go! I think these should be things everyone can agree on. Again, I apologize for not being as clear and my mistakes earlier. Let me know if there's any concerns or objections. (All this work for a free copy of Turbo Overkill.)
(as an aside, from my research, it looks like this article's a fair bit out of date, as well— they got sued by Gearbox again in 2020 and hired Devolver alumnus Justin Burnham this year. JOE BRO 64 23:50, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
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I removed this as it's not an Apogee game. George Broussard did write the game while in the employ of Apogee, but it was never intended to be an Apogee title. It was written and published by Softdisk. The reason for this was that they'd let id Software out of their contract with them so they could do games for Apogee instead.
I should know, I work here at Apogee - this is Joe Siegler, webmaster for the company. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dopefish ( talk • contribs) 9 February 2006.
Sorry Teklund for my wording, i'm dyslexic and tend to write very convolutedly, however I did include new information with my contribution such as;
Now I have spent about 2 hours going over my new new alterations to make it seem less convoluted. Your welcome to revert my alterations as long as you include the above 5 points yourself. Oh btw, as for my headings, Shareware and Background, you can remove them if you want.. I just felt that their was two logical sections that may at a later date be expanded. But, by all means remove them, just keep the facts.
Thanks, im flexible though, if you dont like any/all of my 5 points we can discuss it :). - UnlimitedAccess 9 July 2005 15:20 (UTC)
Are The Computer Quiz, The Astronomy Quiz and The IBM BASIC Quiz also Apogee games? Or are those Softdisk games / Scott Miller games? 81.70.123.72 11:41, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm talking about The Computer Quiz, The Astronomy Quiz and the IBM BASIC Quiz, not the Star Trek trivia games. 81.70.123.72 10:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Bleh, sorry for the vandalism earlier. I'm kind of the caretaker of the dorm IP address and some people think it's funny to edit entries for fun and get everyone banned from contributing. Shadowrun 05:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Why do we need two different pages for the same company just because they changed their name? The Apogee Software page should be merged into this one as soon as possible. -- Grandpafootsoldier 02:15, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
So, should it be reversed? I say yes. Hbdragon88 05:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm unsure if the above game exists, as clicking on the link links to a game called Vivisector, which is by another company. Can anyone explain this? Ultim87 02:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
in the "Current state and products" we should mention th max payne movie heres a link to some info about it http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0467197/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pauldonald86 ( talk • contribs) 18:53, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to change it, but Apogee should no longer refer to 3d realms: http://www.totalvideogames.com/news/Apogee_Returns_With_Duke_Nukem_Trilogy_13478_7697_0.htm
Happyness! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.164.12.77 ( talk) 17:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
It turns out that there are 3 new games coming to PSP and DS. Critical Mass, Chain Reaction, and Proving Grounds are the names all done by Deep Silver and Apogee. I didn't know where else to go but somebody should start these pages. Here's a link http://ds.ign.com/articles/890/890668p1.html Zabbethx ( talk) 17:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Actually those games are NOT by 3D Realms, they are done by this new company Apogee Software, LLC which is unrelated to 3D Realms/Apogee Software, Ltd. Similarly Prey 2 and Earth No More have been transferred over to Radar Group and are no longer 3D Realms games and therefore shouldn't be on this list. Incarnate never was a 3D Realms game as it has been a Radar Group game from its conception and therefore shouldn't be on the list of games either, Radar Group also isn't related to 3D Realms(or the new Apogee Software) Kristian Joensen ( talk) 12:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no move. JPG-GR ( talk) 05:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
3D Realms → Apogee Software — This is the official name of the company and new games will once again be published under this name. — MrKIA11 ( talk) 23:06, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
or *'''Oppose'''
, then sign your comment with ~~~~
. Since
polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's naming conventions.(This is a continuation of the discussion in the move proposal above) Be careful, the company that will publish new games is ANOTHER company, Apogee Software LLC, not Apogee Software Ltd, which will be just licensing the name from the original Apogee... so in fact, the Apogee company in the article will only continue to publish games under 3D Realms (it's very confusing). Though I agree that the official name is Apogee Software, in practice the name they use right now and will continue to use is 3D Realms, so it actually makes sense retaining that name (as per WP:Naming#Use_the_most_easily_recognized_name). This is not a strong oppose though (I used to support the idea), so if someone has better arguments to support it... -- Sega381 ( talk) 04:43, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Why did Id software say that Apogee would no longer publish their games? Enco1984 ( talk) 06:26, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
"Although in its earliest stages, Doom was still an Apogee title."
I don't doubt the factual accuracy of this statement, but a source here would be informative. The earliest version of DOOM I've seen was an early test demo "alpha" [5]. I don't recall any reference to Apogee here, or any mention of this in David Kushner's book MoD, but I could be mistaken.
Spazzmatic ( talk) 01:12, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
According to the book masters of doom Apogee wasn't doing a good job selling there games. They didn't have enough people manning the phones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.216.124.170 ( talk) 22:56, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Doom was never an Apogee title, in fact, id did not even start work on Doom until after they moved into Suite 666 (post-Apogee). MoD (Pg. 124) 68.193.255.54 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:28, 27 June 2009 (UTC).
There's word that 3D Realms may have been shut down, but its only as best-guess speculation (no one in 3D realms has confirmed). [6] Please watch for vandals and false info. -- MASEM ( t) 00:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I love how this is considered an encyclopedic term. Even if it is worthy of a wiki, it's hardly legitimate in use in an encyclopedia; it just sounds too much like insider-industry slang. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.133.61.34 ( talk) 04:44, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
All the forums are locked on the 3DR page, it looks like it's all over. Unless of course this is a big publicity stunt, although a company member called Joe Siegler said: "It's not a marketing thing. It's true. I have nothing further to say at this time." Stuffs in the BBC article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.216.124.170 ( talk) 22:59, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Tell me if I'm wrong, but I do belive that 3d Realms are defunct. Am I wrong? mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool ( talk) 18:50, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know exactly how defunct 3D Realms is? As far as I know they no longer have employees (except management), but have they filed bankruptcy? If not, I presume 3D Realms still exists as a company in possession of assets (such as DNF) they could choose to sell or not to sell. Take Two does not own the game, they just have a deal to publish it. – Lakefall ( talk) 16:42, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
I removed the bold faced lie that 3D Realms is not operating from the beginning of the article. A company that will release its next game next week and has upwards of 12 projects in the works is most certainly operating Kristian Joensen ( talk) 21:52, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Both of the XBLA titles should go on the list of titles developed since they were done internally as can be seen by their credits: [8] and [9] This is also verified by their MS homepages:
Hence I will be moving them to that section 88.85.52.191 ( talk) 14:21, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
DNF DLC and Duke3D Android are mentioned here: [13]
Machineworks Northwest is mentioned as the publisher(and developer?) of Duke3D for Android here: [14]
Sources for Shadow Warrior iOS(These could also be used to update the Shadow Warrior article): [15], [16]
3D Realms have also signed up with GoG.com, initially releasing Shadow Warrior and Terminal Velocity: [17]
Then following that up with releasing Duke Nukem 1 and 2: [18] Notice that the previous 3DR games released on GoG were put there by the new Apogee. Also notice that Shadow Warrior on GoG was published by Devolver Digital: [19]
This is a somewhat notable fact but I don't think there is any reliable source about that in it self, but this article could merely note it as a fact and the Shadow Warrior article could be updated with that info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.85.52.191 ( talk) 19:14, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
I put this here because there has been some confusion over 3D Realms' ownership structure. A few years back Danish company SDN Invest ApS acquired 3D Realms. This same company had invested in the development studio Interceptor Entertainment and owned as far as I can remember about 20% of that company. SDN Invest was owned 100% by Mike Secher Dalsgaard Nielsen. Later he transferred his 3D Realms shares to another company wholly owned by him, MDN Holding ApS. Inteceptor meanwhile was voluntarily liquidated and a new development studio Slipgate Studios took over its development of the game Rad Rodgers. The Rad Rodgers IP was later sold to THQ Nordic. Slipgate Studios ApS is wholly owned by Slipgate Holding ApS itself in turn wholly owned by Kent Hedegaard Christoffersen. Public records reflect that on March 30, 2018 3D Realms ownership was changed such that it still remains a subsidiary of MDN Holding ApS but it is no longer wholly owned by that company, now that company owns "66,67-89,99%" of 3D Realms and Slipgate Studios owns "20-24,99%". That fact is reflected in the ownership tab here: [1]
That source in turn lists "Mike Secher Dalsgaard Nielsen" as a beneficial owner, on account of owning 100% of MDN Holding ApS, of 80% of 3D Realms.
That Mike Secher Dalsgaard Nielsen owns 100% of MDN Holding ApS can be seen on the ownership tab here: [2]
That Kent Hedegaard Christoffersen owns 100% of Slipgate Holdings ApS is reflected on the ownership tab here: [3]
That Slipgate Holdings ApS(and thereby indirectly Kent Hedegaard Christoffersen) owns 100% of Slipgate Studios is reflected on the ownership tab here: [4]
3D Realms Entertainment ApS' latest financials available here say, on the last page, that it owns 95% of Apogee Software, Ltd, d/b/a 3D Realms and 100% of Action Entertainment, Inc and that Action Entertainment Inc owns the remaining 5% of Apogee Software, Ltd, d/b/a 3D Realms: [5]
Mike Secher Dalsgaard Nielsen' position as CEO & President of 3D Realms can be verified here: [6] (This can incidentally also be used as a source for the infobox field on the number of 3D Realms employees,
An entity search here for "Action Entertainment" and choosing the last entry and then choosing "public information report" reveals that Mike Nielsen is the "President" and "Director" of that company: [7]
Sources for THQ Nordic acquiring the Rad Rodgers IP can be found here: [8] and [9]
On a completely different note, doesn't this article give undue weight to lawsuits involving 3D Realms? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.55.50.10 ( talk) 14:50, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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You do realize that there are two companies called Apogee Software with the SAME PURPOSE, right? One's 3D Realms, and the other is licensed by 3D Realms and called Apogee. How does that happen?
2600:1702:25A0:B070:603C:7B53:C68C:BB75 ( talk) 02:30, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi all! On behalf of Scott Miller, I'd like to propose some updates to this article (and other 3D Realms-adjacent articles, like List of 3D Realms games). There are some inaccuracies that Miller noticed, and I've offered to bring them to the attention of the community. Since I've been in direct contact with Miller and he's offered to pay, this puts me in COI territory so I'm posting here rather than making the changes myself.
Here's the gist of it: Wikipedia is currently treating two companies called 3D Realms as a single entity. Mike Nielsen only acquired the rights to the brand in 2014. The rights to the existing IP stayed with Apogee, which in 2021 was relaunched as Apogee Entertainment. Nielsen clarifies in this Rock, Paper, Shotgun interview that he specifically purchased the 3D Realms brand and Apogee remained a separate entity. Miller also states in this GamesIndustry.biz article that the current 3D Realms is a separate company.
My suggestion would be to handle this like we handle Telltale Games: like how Telltale Games covers the original company and Telltale Games (2018–present) covers the new one, 3D Realms covers the original company while 3D Realms (2014–present) covers the new one. List of 3D Realms games would need to be updated to reflect this, as would the links in articles for games like Bombshell and Ion Fury. JOE BRO 64 15:37, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
In 2022, Miller publicly distanced himself from the Embracer-owned 3D Realms. He said that "3D Realms no longer has any link to the past, other than in name only" because he was no longer there to help design and fund games. [1]
Following the acquisition, 3D Realms was relaunched in October 2014, [2] [3] and incorporated as 3D Realms Entertainment ApS in 2015. [4]
Alright, here's a clear list of changes based on my now-complete research. I apologize for not formatting it like this earlier, IceWelder and PresN—this is the first and only time I'll ever do COI editing, and Miller didn't provide me with any text or sources other than what his issues were, so I was a little confused at first. Everything here is backed by a good source and I've done my best to remain neutral.
And there you go! I think these should be things everyone can agree on. Again, I apologize for not being as clear and my mistakes earlier. Let me know if there's any concerns or objections. (All this work for a free copy of Turbo Overkill.)
(as an aside, from my research, it looks like this article's a fair bit out of date, as well— they got sued by Gearbox again in 2020 and hired Devolver alumnus Justin Burnham this year. JOE BRO 64 23:50, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
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