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In the personal life section, a sentence notes that Ocasio-Cortez was a guest judge on RuPaul's Drag Race. I'm fairly confident this isn't really encyclopaedic material and should be removed, just not quite sure enough to be WP:BOLD about it, so wanted to seek confirmation. Thanks!! TheMrP ( talk) 07:44, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
She is now serving in the 117th congress, not the 116th. Not all of the article reflects this. 2600:8801:3091:E100:E46B:AC0B:B6AB:A2A8 ( talk) 20:09, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
She once went by "Sandy Ocasio," are there any NPOV and reliable sources that show her birth and/or legal surname? Is Ocasio her legal surname? Did she adopt Ocasio-Cortez at a later date? Or was she born Ocasio-Cortez? TuckerResearch ( talk) 16:28, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
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I would like to request that "In February 2021, Ocasio-Cortez revealed that she is a sexual assault survivor, comparing it with her experience during the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol.[272]" be reworded to "On February 5, 2021, Ocasio-Cortez revealed that she is a sexual assault survivor, comparing it with her experience during the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol.[272]" since it sounds more professional to me. Bruiser O5 ( talk) 19:12, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
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She is *allegedly* a sexual assault survivor. Nothing has been legally been proven. Kirk123456789 ( talk) 20:45, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
This should not be covered in an encyclopedia, we do not need to exhaustively cover every tit-for-tat "yes you lied, no I didn't, yes you did" conspiracy that bubbles up from the QAnon realm. ValarianB ( talk) 19:40, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
The article as is seems to imply that her office is in the Capitol. her experience during the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol. Specifically, Ocasio-Cortez claimed she had hid in her office bathroom
. We should clarify that it is not so.
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Why do you believe that? What news sources do you use?, not gonna lie it was news to me though lol. Imho it should be included considering how far from common knowledge it is OgamD218 ( talk) 17:01, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
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The second sentence in the third paragraph states that AOC was the youngest congressman until Madison Cawthorn but there were two younger congressmen before both of them - Jed Johnson Jr. and possibly William C. C. Claiborne MoreIraFord ( talk) 22:55, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
She was born October 13th, 1989 and sworn in on January 3rd, 2019, making her 29 years and about three months old. Jed Johnson Jr. was born on December 27th, 1939 and sworn in January 3rd, 1965 making him 25 years and 7 days old. MoreIraFord ( talk) 00:30, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Yes, agreed Spy-cicle - if this statement includes the specifics of the 116th Congress at the time, then the following statement of being the youngest until Madison Cawthorn is a moot point because he is incoming for the 117th Congress. I think this sentence as a whole just needs to be re-worked. MoreIraFord ( talk) 07:22, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
changed to “youngest member of the 116th Congress”. Avoids confusion, and takes Cawthorn out of the picture. starship .paint ( exalt) 03:20, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
There is no need to translate her name into Spanish in the first sentence of the article. A consensus about this has been reached at various places:
Except for the fact she can speak Spanish and has a Spanish name, there is nothing in the article indicating a need to translate her name into Spanish in the first sentence of the article, and Wikipedia policy does not support it. The input of others is welcome. Magnolia677 ( talk) 22:49, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Is the verbal harassment section still due? It seems like something that was a so and so early on but no longer seen as important. Basically boiling down to a high school spat. Should we remove the section or at least trim it considerably? PackMecEng ( talk) 01:04, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Hey all,
I recently made this revision [2] but it was reverted. I wasn't sure why (it's notable and well-sourced), so I thought I would bring it up for a discussion. My user pages discloses this, but I want to be clear here as well that this is my new account after losing access to my old account Pretzel butterfly per WP:VALIDALT. Benevolent human ( talk) 14:32, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
I notice that in the wiki for Marjorie Taylor Greene it states that she is a "far right conspiracy theorist". To be fair, shouldn't the wiki for aoc state that she is Far left? In reality, it should also state that she doesn't comprehend the legislative process, the 3 branches of government or the Constitution. The article also puts her net worth at $30,000 yet she has received half a million dollars in salary as a Congresswoman not to mention millions in income from other sources including Netflix. 71.34.175.2 ( talk) 01:59, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
I notice that in the wiki for Marjorie Taylor Greene it states that she is a "far right conspiracy theorist". To be fair, shouldn't the wiki for aoc state that she is Far left? In reality, it should also state that she doesn't comprehend the legislative process, the 3 branches of government or the Constitution. The article also puts her net worth at $30,000 yet she has received half a million dollars in salary as a Congresswoman not to mention millions in income from other sources including Netflix. 71.34.175.2 ( talk) 01:59, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
I am wondering about other's feelings on perhaps cutting this section back. At the time it was perhaps interesting as it showed what she was up against, but on the other hand it is/was not surprising in that he was a pretty powerful Democrat who was fighting Trump and had a pretty decent platform. I'm going to print it out here. Perhaps there are still some good reasons for keeping it all rather than just a short mention.
Add that AOC has made false and baseless claims smearing Israel as an "apartheid state." [5] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickplops ( talk • contribs) 00:30, May 18, 2021 (UTC)
https://www.lohud.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/02/ocasio-cortez-westchester/751333002/ 'Westchester County land records show that Ocasio-Cortez was living there with her mother and brother in 2016 when they sold the home for $355,000.'
This article says that AOC went to live with her mother in the Bronx after college. I would like to propose this to be changed in light of the above. Accipio Mitis Frux ( talk) 11:28, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (/oʊˌkɑːsioʊ kɔːrˈtɛz/; Spanish: [oˈkasjo koɾˈtes]; born October 13, 1989), also known by her initials AOC, is an American politician. AOC votes and confers support to militarism, inequality, unemployment and poverty. This is precisely contrary to any concern she may publically declare, moreover any legislation she may propose.
AOC represents an obedience to tyranny that is mostly hidden. Her concerns are eloquent and lucid but festooned with the weaponized propaganda of social justice. A masquerade determined to prevent equality and at the very least hope or dignity.
The intent here is not cynicism or contempt for AOC - instead AOC is a newer, brighter example who only confirms the complete absence of democracy in the United States.
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Our politicial system responds to money and politicians are very capable of deceiving and mis-guiding many of those mistreated by the system into fighting against the very forces that might help them. This may apply to Ms Ocasio-Cortez, as much as it does Bernie "Lockheed Martin" Sanders or Joe "Huge Oily Coal" Manchin. So, politicians themselves have very little power but they are owned:
https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/fundraising-totals — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.58.188.64 ( talk) 16:55, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
In the sentence "The Young Turks have continued to cover Ocasio-Cortez and defend her from political and media elites who see her as outside the political culture of DC, with occasional criticism on some of her policies", the phrase "political and media elites" seems like a loaded term with a connotation of non-neutrality (AOC vs. shadowy unnamed "elites").
Recommending a NPOV alternative such as "opponents". A {{ who}} tag might not go amiss either. 73.254.89.77 ( talk) 22:55, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
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AOC votes, Raytheon Technologies and Israeli-based Rafael Advanced Defense Systems receive more funding: Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Democrat of New York and the highest-profile progressive in the House, apologized on Friday to her constituents for an abrupt decision to pull back her vote against providing $1 billion in new funding for Israel’s Iron Dome missile defense system, suggesting she had done so after being subjected to “hateful targeting” for opposing it.
AOC reliably supports military spending, the poverty it creates, the extraordinary wealth for a few it creates, including apartheid and violence in the Middle East. Profit for American defense corporations is sacrosanct, with the requirement of indemnification by the theater of democracy. This conduct is, without any elaboration, a requirement (or red line) for her "job" as a representative. Cite error: There are The purpose of this post is not to debate the merits of AOC, denigrate her character, argue vehemently about things no rational person would want such as more violence and more inequality. AOC has very little power to do anything other than what she is told. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.58.191.18 ( talk) 20:36, 5 October 2021 (UTC) |
AOC's educational background needs more specifics. it should be noted she attended not just "Boston University," but specifically the Frederick S. Pardee School for Global Studies, known for their training and recruiting for CIA, DIA, and other intelligence and counterintelligence assets. source: https://www.bu.edu/pardeeschool/2018/11/07/pardee-school-alumna-youngest-woman-ever-elected-to-congress/ https://www.bu.edu/pardeeschool/tag/cia/ Asaturn ( talk) 14:19, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
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This sentence fragment "Ocasio-Cortez was endorsed by progressive and civil rights organizations such as..." is needlessly embellished and should be edited to read as "Ocasio-Cortez was endorsed by organizations such as...". Tondelleo Schwarzkopf ( talk) 15:23, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
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If it fits within the guidelines of biographies, could editors add a section/appropriate subsection that includes the serious and significant/noteworthy threat made by Paul Gosar against Rep. Ocasio-Cortez? In November 2021, Gosar tweeted an altered anime showing him doing bodily lethal harm to the Congresswoman. [1] SeminarianJohn ( talk) 23:25, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
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I ask that you include controversies section as you have for many other people. I see nothing but a glowing review here, and mention of other peoples wrong doings against her, not nothing of her issues she has started, problems, or wrong doings 2601:445:8380:D140:E5AE:EADF:B92A:3190 ( talk) 12:33, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Requesting the following good faith edit to be undone: [7] Diff: [8] Although Donald Trump is no longer in office, her position on his impeachment is still a significant and relevant part of her congressional record. Her record on historically significant votes (like an impeachment) never goes "out of date". If not undone outright, it should be at least wrapped into section 3.2 (Tenure) as a record of what occurred. 73.254.89.77 ( talk) 08:07, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
So, I am thinking I might like to lend my voice to reading this article aloud, So I'd like to ask editor's opinions. Does this article get changed too often to be reliably recorded, or does the semi-protected status help my desire to have it stay somewhat static? Gallomimia ( talk) 06:18, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
Why is the subject's birth name burred in the second section when other famous persons have their birth name in the main top section? (And why is the birth name in "scare quotes"?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:7029:6100:6015:5900:BD4D:427C ( talk) 22:28, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
I notice that wikipedia, will be sure to state that a Republican congresswomen you define them as right wing conspiracy theorist, but leftist extremist such as AOC you are mum. 2600:1006:B01D:2EC3:AD46:4393:81D:37EA ( talk) 21:30, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
What would make a more balanced article for critics would be a controversies segment, if there are any to speak of. Ech0inthef0rest ( talk) 13:38, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
JameyRivendell insists on adding left-wing and/or far-left in the lead, despite what I think appears to be consensus against it and reverting by two separate editors (against this articles 24 hr revert policy) as well as inserting Left-wing politics in the see also section, which doesn't seem entirely relevant to me, but less concerning than the first two issues, so I'd like to open this up for others input. PRAXIDICAE🌈 20:12, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
The relevant question is whether sufficient reliable sources describe her as "far-left." I think she is more commonly described as "left-leaning" "progressive" or a "democratic socialist." I think there's an argument to be made that this represents a more left-wing position than say, Dianne Feinstein, a Democrat who is more commonly described as "moderate" or "center." If we had several academic or social science sources that deemed AOC "far-left," that could be included. I think she is unquestionably a "left-wing politician" and a further-left-wing politician than many of the others in her caucus. Usually, "far-left" in the discourse describes outwardly Marxist or communist thought, which AOC is not, she is a social democrat. However, terms do change so we have to follow the sources if they exist. I am not saying they do. We are having a similar RFC on the Donald Trump article and many editors do not believe he is "far-right," even though many sources do describe him this way. So I think it's only fair, even though I am generally on AOC's side, we shouldn't shy away from labelling her as "left-wing" if that is what the reliable sources call her. Andrevan @ 16:36, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
I believe "far-left" should be in the lede to keep it consistent across wikipedia as many republicans are labeled as "far-right". After five minutes of Google searches I found numerous sources where AOC is described as "far-left" or "hard-left" [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]. These links include articles from sources like Politico which is viewed as generally reliable on Wiki according to WP:RSPSS. Honestly, I am little surprised "far-left" or "hard-left" is not in her lede already as this is mostly what she is known for. Grahaml35 ( talk) 02:38, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
As a subjective assessment it should not be in the opening sentence of the lead and I would prefer it not be in the opening paragraph. We absolutely should not be labeling AOC "far-left" because people put "far-right" into other BLPs. With few exceptions this shouldn't be done in any BLP unless the person self identifies as or embraces the label. Stating later in the lead that "she is a member of the X-part of the Democratic party" or "is considered to represent the more liberal wing of the Democratic party" (assuming correct sourcing) makes more sense. Assuming WP:V we can say where people consider her within her party but on the absolute scale, no she is not far left like Castro. Overall BLPs would be better if we labeled less and provided more of the supporting content instead. Springee ( talk) 04:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
AOC and other members of Congress arrested at protest
can we add something about this? MrMemer223 ( talk) 23:31, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
The addition by DeaconShotFire in the personal life section was absurd imo, the story isnt part of her "arrest history" or some nonsense to make it not related to her political career. I added a bit on abortion to the healthcare section and included a short line on civil disobedience. nableezy - 15:50, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
DeaconShotFire, I think your copyedit is an improvement, but I'm curious why you'd rather refer to it as the Supreme Court overruling Roe versus the Supreme Court's Dobbs decision that overruled Roe. It seems to me that wikilinking to Dobbs is going to give readers a way to find out more about the precipitating events versus linking to just the Roe page. It's a minor point but I am curious. Andrevan @ 16:04, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
I removed attempt by SouthernCaliforniaExploration to add the handcuffing stuff. That is not going to cut it. First of all, NY Post should really be considered unreliable. Also, this business about "faking handcuffing" doesn't have to do with her biography, positions, political views or activities. It smacks of drama. Andrevan @ 22:43, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
During her arrest, she placed her hands behind her back, which made some of her critics accuse her of pretending to be handcuffed. [8] She pushed back from the criticism saying she was just trying to avoid any escalation. [9]
There seems to be a solid consensus against including the nonsense about handcuffing, so I removed it again. And also the idea that reproductive health is not related to healthcare is not one I can understand. nableezy - 15:22, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
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Please add that on Jan 20, 2025, the date of the next presidential inauguration in the United states, aoc will be 35 years 3 months and a week old, per US constitution old enough to be president [+35 years] Thank you 216.197.78.177 ( talk) 01:50, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
Under the Environment heading one sentence reads, "Referring to a recent United Nations report indicating that the effects of climate change will be irreversible unless carbon emissions are reined in over the next 12 years ...".
I understand this claim is properly sourced from The Hill article which reads "Her comments are in reference to a United Nations-backed climate report, published late last year, that determined the effects of climate change to be irreversible and unavoidable if carbon emissions are not reined in over the next 12 years", however this is a false claim.
In an Axios article entitled " Climate Scientists refute 12-year deadline to curb global warming" several reputable scientists speak out stating, "12 years isn't a deadline, and climate change isn't a cliff we fall off — it's a slope we slide down", "We don't have 12 years to prevent climate change — we have no time. It's already here. And even under a business-as-usual scenario, the world isn't going to end in exactly twelve years." and, "All the time-limited frames are bullshit, Nothing special happens when the 'carbon budget' runs out or we pass whatever temperature target you care about, instead the costs of emissions steadily rise!".
The 12 years deadline is a misinterpretation propagated by Miss Cortez herself, among others, and is not a conclusion/finding actually made in the IPCC report.
Based on the information I have provided above I believe it is reasonable to conclude the sentence in question contains false information. To fix this issue I propose the sentence be removed in its entirety and replaced with the following:
Ocasio-Cortez has argued that to avoid the end of human existence global warming must be addressed immediately and that the world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change, referring to a United Nations/IPCC report on climate change. However several climate scientists have criticized this interpretation of the report stating that "12 years isn't a deadline, and climate change isn't a cliff we fall off — it's a slope we slide down".
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Could someone add her foreign policy position on the Russia/Ukraine conflict? I have not rewearched it, but have heard that she is for continuing the war. WordwizardW ( talk) 22:55, 5 October 2022 (UTC) correction: "researched" WordwizardW ( talk) 22:55, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
Is the image with the description "Ocasio-Cortez with Kerri Evelyn Harris" okay for everyone else? On my screen, the image appears bugged. Everything else appears fine. I have uploaded what I see on my screen here. Cable10291 ( talk) 12:46, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
There is a proposal to move AOC ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) to AOC (disambiguation) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) so that AOC can redirect here as 90% of readers click-through to this article from the current AOC dab-page. If you'd like to weigh in, there's a very short time left here: Talk:AOC#Requested_move_10_December_2022. — Locke Cole • t • c 02:28, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
So we can’t add the ethics issue? Do editors understand how biased this looks. Tentemp ( talk) 23:26, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
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I want to request the addition of adding the topic of how AOC is a symbol of the battle against misogyny and sexism in the work force in America. She has battled the traditional, and sexist views of many of her older, male peers in Congress boldly and has taken a stance to not only help the world become a better place, but also help young women realize that they deserve to be treated with respect.
Source: https://www.vox.com/2020/7/25/21337375/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-speech-misogyny-sexism-congress Saisathish912 ( talk) 23:08, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Another editor reverted
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez&curid=54885332&diff=1147966463&oldid=1147962350&diffmode=source this change claiming non-notability. This is in contrast to multiple
WP:RS reporting on the story and gaining national coverage. Reverting editor may have also violated
WP:BRD guidelines, specifically An editor reverts a change simply because the editor finds it "unnecessary" without claiming that the change is detrimental. This has the effect of assigning priority, between two equivalent versions, to an owner's version.
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intellectual honesty. If a left-wing think tank filed an ethics complaint against, say, Jim Jordan, I would oppose adding anything about it unless there was a noteworthy result. – Muboshgu ( talk) 18:31, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
Is anyone actually pro-poverty? It might be worthwhile to remove the "anti" in the subheader, given that the topic under consideration is poverty and being in favor of poverty is not a position that anyone seems to assume outright. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.223.40.199 ( talk) 15:42, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
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@ AlsoWukai: you had removed a part of the Defense spending section of this article in a recent edit citing neutrality. The part you removed had reliable sources and was phrased in a neutral manner. More importantly, it was about what Ocasio-Cortez had said herself, so what was the reason behind the removal? JonSnow64 ( talk) 11:59, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Note the use of the word "spouse" in each case:
https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/gtimages/MT/2023/500026961.pdf
https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/gtimages/MT/2023/500025932.pdf
https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/public_disc/financial-pdfs/2022/10052480.pdf
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Just wanted to add the Category:American TikTokers to her page, since she's active on TikTok. GeekfromHell ( talk) 07:02, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
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In the personal life section, a sentence notes that Ocasio-Cortez was a guest judge on RuPaul's Drag Race. I'm fairly confident this isn't really encyclopaedic material and should be removed, just not quite sure enough to be WP:BOLD about it, so wanted to seek confirmation. Thanks!! TheMrP ( talk) 07:44, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
She is now serving in the 117th congress, not the 116th. Not all of the article reflects this. 2600:8801:3091:E100:E46B:AC0B:B6AB:A2A8 ( talk) 20:09, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
She once went by "Sandy Ocasio," are there any NPOV and reliable sources that show her birth and/or legal surname? Is Ocasio her legal surname? Did she adopt Ocasio-Cortez at a later date? Or was she born Ocasio-Cortez? TuckerResearch ( talk) 16:28, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
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I would like to request that "In February 2021, Ocasio-Cortez revealed that she is a sexual assault survivor, comparing it with her experience during the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol.[272]" be reworded to "On February 5, 2021, Ocasio-Cortez revealed that she is a sexual assault survivor, comparing it with her experience during the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol.[272]" since it sounds more professional to me. Bruiser O5 ( talk) 19:12, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
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She is *allegedly* a sexual assault survivor. Nothing has been legally been proven. Kirk123456789 ( talk) 20:45, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
This should not be covered in an encyclopedia, we do not need to exhaustively cover every tit-for-tat "yes you lied, no I didn't, yes you did" conspiracy that bubbles up from the QAnon realm. ValarianB ( talk) 19:40, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
The article as is seems to imply that her office is in the Capitol. her experience during the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol. Specifically, Ocasio-Cortez claimed she had hid in her office bathroom
. We should clarify that it is not so.
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Why do you believe that? What news sources do you use?, not gonna lie it was news to me though lol. Imho it should be included considering how far from common knowledge it is OgamD218 ( talk) 17:01, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
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The second sentence in the third paragraph states that AOC was the youngest congressman until Madison Cawthorn but there were two younger congressmen before both of them - Jed Johnson Jr. and possibly William C. C. Claiborne MoreIraFord ( talk) 22:55, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
She was born October 13th, 1989 and sworn in on January 3rd, 2019, making her 29 years and about three months old. Jed Johnson Jr. was born on December 27th, 1939 and sworn in January 3rd, 1965 making him 25 years and 7 days old. MoreIraFord ( talk) 00:30, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Yes, agreed Spy-cicle - if this statement includes the specifics of the 116th Congress at the time, then the following statement of being the youngest until Madison Cawthorn is a moot point because he is incoming for the 117th Congress. I think this sentence as a whole just needs to be re-worked. MoreIraFord ( talk) 07:22, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
changed to “youngest member of the 116th Congress”. Avoids confusion, and takes Cawthorn out of the picture. starship .paint ( exalt) 03:20, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
There is no need to translate her name into Spanish in the first sentence of the article. A consensus about this has been reached at various places:
Except for the fact she can speak Spanish and has a Spanish name, there is nothing in the article indicating a need to translate her name into Spanish in the first sentence of the article, and Wikipedia policy does not support it. The input of others is welcome. Magnolia677 ( talk) 22:49, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Is the verbal harassment section still due? It seems like something that was a so and so early on but no longer seen as important. Basically boiling down to a high school spat. Should we remove the section or at least trim it considerably? PackMecEng ( talk) 01:04, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Hey all,
I recently made this revision [2] but it was reverted. I wasn't sure why (it's notable and well-sourced), so I thought I would bring it up for a discussion. My user pages discloses this, but I want to be clear here as well that this is my new account after losing access to my old account Pretzel butterfly per WP:VALIDALT. Benevolent human ( talk) 14:32, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
I notice that in the wiki for Marjorie Taylor Greene it states that she is a "far right conspiracy theorist". To be fair, shouldn't the wiki for aoc state that she is Far left? In reality, it should also state that she doesn't comprehend the legislative process, the 3 branches of government or the Constitution. The article also puts her net worth at $30,000 yet she has received half a million dollars in salary as a Congresswoman not to mention millions in income from other sources including Netflix. 71.34.175.2 ( talk) 01:59, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
I notice that in the wiki for Marjorie Taylor Greene it states that she is a "far right conspiracy theorist". To be fair, shouldn't the wiki for aoc state that she is Far left? In reality, it should also state that she doesn't comprehend the legislative process, the 3 branches of government or the Constitution. The article also puts her net worth at $30,000 yet she has received half a million dollars in salary as a Congresswoman not to mention millions in income from other sources including Netflix. 71.34.175.2 ( talk) 01:59, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
I am wondering about other's feelings on perhaps cutting this section back. At the time it was perhaps interesting as it showed what she was up against, but on the other hand it is/was not surprising in that he was a pretty powerful Democrat who was fighting Trump and had a pretty decent platform. I'm going to print it out here. Perhaps there are still some good reasons for keeping it all rather than just a short mention.
Add that AOC has made false and baseless claims smearing Israel as an "apartheid state." [5] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickplops ( talk • contribs) 00:30, May 18, 2021 (UTC)
https://www.lohud.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/02/ocasio-cortez-westchester/751333002/ 'Westchester County land records show that Ocasio-Cortez was living there with her mother and brother in 2016 when they sold the home for $355,000.'
This article says that AOC went to live with her mother in the Bronx after college. I would like to propose this to be changed in light of the above. Accipio Mitis Frux ( talk) 11:28, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (/oʊˌkɑːsioʊ kɔːrˈtɛz/; Spanish: [oˈkasjo koɾˈtes]; born October 13, 1989), also known by her initials AOC, is an American politician. AOC votes and confers support to militarism, inequality, unemployment and poverty. This is precisely contrary to any concern she may publically declare, moreover any legislation she may propose.
AOC represents an obedience to tyranny that is mostly hidden. Her concerns are eloquent and lucid but festooned with the weaponized propaganda of social justice. A masquerade determined to prevent equality and at the very least hope or dignity.
The intent here is not cynicism or contempt for AOC - instead AOC is a newer, brighter example who only confirms the complete absence of democracy in the United States.
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Our politicial system responds to money and politicians are very capable of deceiving and mis-guiding many of those mistreated by the system into fighting against the very forces that might help them. This may apply to Ms Ocasio-Cortez, as much as it does Bernie "Lockheed Martin" Sanders or Joe "Huge Oily Coal" Manchin. So, politicians themselves have very little power but they are owned:
https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/fundraising-totals — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.58.188.64 ( talk) 16:55, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
In the sentence "The Young Turks have continued to cover Ocasio-Cortez and defend her from political and media elites who see her as outside the political culture of DC, with occasional criticism on some of her policies", the phrase "political and media elites" seems like a loaded term with a connotation of non-neutrality (AOC vs. shadowy unnamed "elites").
Recommending a NPOV alternative such as "opponents". A {{ who}} tag might not go amiss either. 73.254.89.77 ( talk) 22:55, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
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AOC votes, Raytheon Technologies and Israeli-based Rafael Advanced Defense Systems receive more funding: Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Democrat of New York and the highest-profile progressive in the House, apologized on Friday to her constituents for an abrupt decision to pull back her vote against providing $1 billion in new funding for Israel’s Iron Dome missile defense system, suggesting she had done so after being subjected to “hateful targeting” for opposing it.
AOC reliably supports military spending, the poverty it creates, the extraordinary wealth for a few it creates, including apartheid and violence in the Middle East. Profit for American defense corporations is sacrosanct, with the requirement of indemnification by the theater of democracy. This conduct is, without any elaboration, a requirement (or red line) for her "job" as a representative. Cite error: There are The purpose of this post is not to debate the merits of AOC, denigrate her character, argue vehemently about things no rational person would want such as more violence and more inequality. AOC has very little power to do anything other than what she is told. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.58.191.18 ( talk) 20:36, 5 October 2021 (UTC) |
AOC's educational background needs more specifics. it should be noted she attended not just "Boston University," but specifically the Frederick S. Pardee School for Global Studies, known for their training and recruiting for CIA, DIA, and other intelligence and counterintelligence assets. source: https://www.bu.edu/pardeeschool/2018/11/07/pardee-school-alumna-youngest-woman-ever-elected-to-congress/ https://www.bu.edu/pardeeschool/tag/cia/ Asaturn ( talk) 14:19, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
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This sentence fragment "Ocasio-Cortez was endorsed by progressive and civil rights organizations such as..." is needlessly embellished and should be edited to read as "Ocasio-Cortez was endorsed by organizations such as...". Tondelleo Schwarzkopf ( talk) 15:23, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
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add the word "federal" before the words "minimum wage" under the Labor Rights section 64.88.3.8 ( talk) 14:28, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
If it fits within the guidelines of biographies, could editors add a section/appropriate subsection that includes the serious and significant/noteworthy threat made by Paul Gosar against Rep. Ocasio-Cortez? In November 2021, Gosar tweeted an altered anime showing him doing bodily lethal harm to the Congresswoman. [1] SeminarianJohn ( talk) 23:25, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
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I ask that you include controversies section as you have for many other people. I see nothing but a glowing review here, and mention of other peoples wrong doings against her, not nothing of her issues she has started, problems, or wrong doings 2601:445:8380:D140:E5AE:EADF:B92A:3190 ( talk) 12:33, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Requesting the following good faith edit to be undone: [7] Diff: [8] Although Donald Trump is no longer in office, her position on his impeachment is still a significant and relevant part of her congressional record. Her record on historically significant votes (like an impeachment) never goes "out of date". If not undone outright, it should be at least wrapped into section 3.2 (Tenure) as a record of what occurred. 73.254.89.77 ( talk) 08:07, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
So, I am thinking I might like to lend my voice to reading this article aloud, So I'd like to ask editor's opinions. Does this article get changed too often to be reliably recorded, or does the semi-protected status help my desire to have it stay somewhat static? Gallomimia ( talk) 06:18, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
Why is the subject's birth name burred in the second section when other famous persons have their birth name in the main top section? (And why is the birth name in "scare quotes"?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:7029:6100:6015:5900:BD4D:427C ( talk) 22:28, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
I notice that wikipedia, will be sure to state that a Republican congresswomen you define them as right wing conspiracy theorist, but leftist extremist such as AOC you are mum. 2600:1006:B01D:2EC3:AD46:4393:81D:37EA ( talk) 21:30, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
What would make a more balanced article for critics would be a controversies segment, if there are any to speak of. Ech0inthef0rest ( talk) 13:38, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
JameyRivendell insists on adding left-wing and/or far-left in the lead, despite what I think appears to be consensus against it and reverting by two separate editors (against this articles 24 hr revert policy) as well as inserting Left-wing politics in the see also section, which doesn't seem entirely relevant to me, but less concerning than the first two issues, so I'd like to open this up for others input. PRAXIDICAE🌈 20:12, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
The relevant question is whether sufficient reliable sources describe her as "far-left." I think she is more commonly described as "left-leaning" "progressive" or a "democratic socialist." I think there's an argument to be made that this represents a more left-wing position than say, Dianne Feinstein, a Democrat who is more commonly described as "moderate" or "center." If we had several academic or social science sources that deemed AOC "far-left," that could be included. I think she is unquestionably a "left-wing politician" and a further-left-wing politician than many of the others in her caucus. Usually, "far-left" in the discourse describes outwardly Marxist or communist thought, which AOC is not, she is a social democrat. However, terms do change so we have to follow the sources if they exist. I am not saying they do. We are having a similar RFC on the Donald Trump article and many editors do not believe he is "far-right," even though many sources do describe him this way. So I think it's only fair, even though I am generally on AOC's side, we shouldn't shy away from labelling her as "left-wing" if that is what the reliable sources call her. Andrevan @ 16:36, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
I believe "far-left" should be in the lede to keep it consistent across wikipedia as many republicans are labeled as "far-right". After five minutes of Google searches I found numerous sources where AOC is described as "far-left" or "hard-left" [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]. These links include articles from sources like Politico which is viewed as generally reliable on Wiki according to WP:RSPSS. Honestly, I am little surprised "far-left" or "hard-left" is not in her lede already as this is mostly what she is known for. Grahaml35 ( talk) 02:38, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
As a subjective assessment it should not be in the opening sentence of the lead and I would prefer it not be in the opening paragraph. We absolutely should not be labeling AOC "far-left" because people put "far-right" into other BLPs. With few exceptions this shouldn't be done in any BLP unless the person self identifies as or embraces the label. Stating later in the lead that "she is a member of the X-part of the Democratic party" or "is considered to represent the more liberal wing of the Democratic party" (assuming correct sourcing) makes more sense. Assuming WP:V we can say where people consider her within her party but on the absolute scale, no she is not far left like Castro. Overall BLPs would be better if we labeled less and provided more of the supporting content instead. Springee ( talk) 04:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
AOC and other members of Congress arrested at protest
can we add something about this? MrMemer223 ( talk) 23:31, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
The addition by DeaconShotFire in the personal life section was absurd imo, the story isnt part of her "arrest history" or some nonsense to make it not related to her political career. I added a bit on abortion to the healthcare section and included a short line on civil disobedience. nableezy - 15:50, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
DeaconShotFire, I think your copyedit is an improvement, but I'm curious why you'd rather refer to it as the Supreme Court overruling Roe versus the Supreme Court's Dobbs decision that overruled Roe. It seems to me that wikilinking to Dobbs is going to give readers a way to find out more about the precipitating events versus linking to just the Roe page. It's a minor point but I am curious. Andrevan @ 16:04, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
I removed attempt by SouthernCaliforniaExploration to add the handcuffing stuff. That is not going to cut it. First of all, NY Post should really be considered unreliable. Also, this business about "faking handcuffing" doesn't have to do with her biography, positions, political views or activities. It smacks of drama. Andrevan @ 22:43, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
During her arrest, she placed her hands behind her back, which made some of her critics accuse her of pretending to be handcuffed. [8] She pushed back from the criticism saying she was just trying to avoid any escalation. [9]
There seems to be a solid consensus against including the nonsense about handcuffing, so I removed it again. And also the idea that reproductive health is not related to healthcare is not one I can understand. nableezy - 15:22, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
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Please add that on Jan 20, 2025, the date of the next presidential inauguration in the United states, aoc will be 35 years 3 months and a week old, per US constitution old enough to be president [+35 years] Thank you 216.197.78.177 ( talk) 01:50, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
Under the Environment heading one sentence reads, "Referring to a recent United Nations report indicating that the effects of climate change will be irreversible unless carbon emissions are reined in over the next 12 years ...".
I understand this claim is properly sourced from The Hill article which reads "Her comments are in reference to a United Nations-backed climate report, published late last year, that determined the effects of climate change to be irreversible and unavoidable if carbon emissions are not reined in over the next 12 years", however this is a false claim.
In an Axios article entitled " Climate Scientists refute 12-year deadline to curb global warming" several reputable scientists speak out stating, "12 years isn't a deadline, and climate change isn't a cliff we fall off — it's a slope we slide down", "We don't have 12 years to prevent climate change — we have no time. It's already here. And even under a business-as-usual scenario, the world isn't going to end in exactly twelve years." and, "All the time-limited frames are bullshit, Nothing special happens when the 'carbon budget' runs out or we pass whatever temperature target you care about, instead the costs of emissions steadily rise!".
The 12 years deadline is a misinterpretation propagated by Miss Cortez herself, among others, and is not a conclusion/finding actually made in the IPCC report.
Based on the information I have provided above I believe it is reasonable to conclude the sentence in question contains false information. To fix this issue I propose the sentence be removed in its entirety and replaced with the following:
Ocasio-Cortez has argued that to avoid the end of human existence global warming must be addressed immediately and that the world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change, referring to a United Nations/IPCC report on climate change. However several climate scientists have criticized this interpretation of the report stating that "12 years isn't a deadline, and climate change isn't a cliff we fall off — it's a slope we slide down".
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Could someone add her foreign policy position on the Russia/Ukraine conflict? I have not rewearched it, but have heard that she is for continuing the war. WordwizardW ( talk) 22:55, 5 October 2022 (UTC) correction: "researched" WordwizardW ( talk) 22:55, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
Is the image with the description "Ocasio-Cortez with Kerri Evelyn Harris" okay for everyone else? On my screen, the image appears bugged. Everything else appears fine. I have uploaded what I see on my screen here. Cable10291 ( talk) 12:46, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
There is a proposal to move AOC ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) to AOC (disambiguation) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) so that AOC can redirect here as 90% of readers click-through to this article from the current AOC dab-page. If you'd like to weigh in, there's a very short time left here: Talk:AOC#Requested_move_10_December_2022. — Locke Cole • t • c 02:28, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
So we can’t add the ethics issue? Do editors understand how biased this looks. Tentemp ( talk) 23:26, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
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I want to request the addition of adding the topic of how AOC is a symbol of the battle against misogyny and sexism in the work force in America. She has battled the traditional, and sexist views of many of her older, male peers in Congress boldly and has taken a stance to not only help the world become a better place, but also help young women realize that they deserve to be treated with respect.
Source: https://www.vox.com/2020/7/25/21337375/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-speech-misogyny-sexism-congress Saisathish912 ( talk) 23:08, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Another editor reverted
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez&curid=54885332&diff=1147966463&oldid=1147962350&diffmode=source this change claiming non-notability. This is in contrast to multiple
WP:RS reporting on the story and gaining national coverage. Reverting editor may have also violated
WP:BRD guidelines, specifically An editor reverts a change simply because the editor finds it "unnecessary" without claiming that the change is detrimental. This has the effect of assigning priority, between two equivalent versions, to an owner's version.
, leading us here.
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intellectual honesty. If a left-wing think tank filed an ethics complaint against, say, Jim Jordan, I would oppose adding anything about it unless there was a noteworthy result. – Muboshgu ( talk) 18:31, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
Is anyone actually pro-poverty? It might be worthwhile to remove the "anti" in the subheader, given that the topic under consideration is poverty and being in favor of poverty is not a position that anyone seems to assume outright. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.223.40.199 ( talk) 15:42, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
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@ AlsoWukai: you had removed a part of the Defense spending section of this article in a recent edit citing neutrality. The part you removed had reliable sources and was phrased in a neutral manner. More importantly, it was about what Ocasio-Cortez had said herself, so what was the reason behind the removal? JonSnow64 ( talk) 11:59, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Note the use of the word "spouse" in each case:
https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/gtimages/MT/2023/500026961.pdf
https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/gtimages/MT/2023/500025932.pdf
https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/public_disc/financial-pdfs/2022/10052480.pdf
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Just wanted to add the Category:American TikTokers to her page, since she's active on TikTok. GeekfromHell ( talk) 07:02, 16 September 2023 (UTC)