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These additionals info (2 letters + Bernhard Lustig's testimony) have been apparently (*) published only in the 2011/09/29 paperback version of this book "Hitler's First War Adolf Hitler, the Men of the List Regiment, and the First World War" Thomas Weber ISBN : 9780199226382 (*) I don't have access to this book!
Excerpts from this article (2011/10/21 HITLER'S WAR BOAST EXPOSED AS A MYTH Unpublished letters disprove claim that he was blinded in action by a British mustard gas attack https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/history/hitlers-war-boast-exposed-as-a-myth-2373590.html Here is a similar article : Hitler's war boast is a lie, letters show https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8840279/Hitlers-war-boast-is-a-lie-letters-show.html )
"(...)Letters written by two prominent American neurologists cast serious doubts on Hitler's mental state at the end of the First World War, confirming that he was treated for "hysterical amblyopia", a psychiatric disorder known as "hysterical blindness".(...) /info/en/?search=Hysterical_Blindness /info/en/?search=Conversion_disorder (...)The letters, written in 1943, recall that Otfrid Förster, a renowned neurosurgeon, told each of the Americans in the 1930s that he had inspected Hitler's medical file from Pasewalk military hospital in Germany in 1918. He told them the file clearly showed that Hitler had been treated for hysterical blindness. (...) Other new evidence brought to Dr Weber's attention following his book came from Bernhard Lustig, a Jewish veteran from Hitler's regiment who emigrated to Palestine in 1933. Lustig said that "in none of their encounters had Hitler displayed any anti-Semitic tendencies... nor any leadership qualities"."
Otfrid Foerster (Otfrid Förster) /info/en/?search=Otfrid_Foerster
/info/en/?search=Robert_Foster_Kennedy I did not find a wikipedia entry for Victor Gonda.
One of the 2 letters : https://figgseyeclinic.com/2015/09/16/hitlers-psychogenic-amblyopia-during-the-great-war/
A critical review of the book https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2QT33TUOXW8J2/
I am not an expert, so in your opinion is there anything here worth to be included in wikipedia ? Thanks in advance Jurbop ( talk) 14:30, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your help. I just asked my question here : /info/en/?search=Talk:Psychopathography_of_Adolf_Hitler#Additional_infos_about_Hitler%27s_medical_lost_file_%3F Please delete my question here if this is the correct way to do it. Thanks in advance Jurbop ( talk) 06:08, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
The category's description says: "People who hate Jews should be in Category:Antisemitism instead." Hitler did not "criticise" Judaism, he hated Jews and systematically murdered millions of them. Furthermore, Ezra Pound was removed from the category earlier this year. ― Susmuffin Talk 02:16, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
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"who" in the intro should be "whom". 148.252.24.230 ( talk) 17:42, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I need to request a political sidebar for Adolf Hitler?
{{Adolf Hitler series}}
Well, I should request it for later on. -- TaleofTalisman ( talk) 06:36, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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Change this line:
Hitler followed a vegetarian diet.[414]
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Hitler followed a mostly vegetarian diet.[414]
According to ( /info/en/?search=Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism), Hitler still ate liver dumplings. This by definition would make him not vegetarian in the literal sense.
Thank you! Stix1776 ( talk) 05:49, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
Re "Hitler followed a mostly vegetarian diet,[414] with the exception of liver dumplings.[415]"
I originally looked at this because I thought the phrasing might be improved, however according to various witnesses at Adolf Hitler and vegetarianism, AH may have 'lapsed' at various times, in various ways by eating various different meats/meat products - knowingly or otherwise (liver dumplings is simply Ilse Hess's version). Everyone there appears to agree though that AH was mainly vegetarian.
Is the liver dumplings detail worth it? It isn't that reliable and doesn't seem to indicate anything particular about his beliefs or practices. Unless anybody objects, I'll take out the dumplings! Pincrete ( talk) 12:28, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
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To include that hitler's parents are possibly jewish and the reason that he tried to exterminate all the jews is because of his mothers death. Kalleeboomvr ( talk) 20:53, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Regarding this paragraph of the introduction I recommend to change " civilians" by "other civilians", because it can be understood that the millions of Jews killed by genocide were not exactly civilians, which is an aberration:
" Under Hitler's leadership and racially motivated ideology, the Nazi regime was responsible for the genocide of at least 5.5 million Jews and millions of other victims whom he and his followers deemed Untermenschen (subhumans) or socially undesirable. Hitler and the Nazi regime were also responsible for the killing of an estimated 19.3 million OTHER civilians and prisoners of war. In addition, 28.7 million soldiers and civilians died as a result of military action in the European theatre. The number of civilians killed during World War II was unprecedented in warfare, and the casualties constitute the deadliest conflict in history."
Thanks you for the correction.-- Ttestbleuu ( talk) 10:35, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
This should link to List of wars by death toll, not World War II (redundant; it says "World War II" at the beginning of the sentence. 174.115.100.93 ( talk) 17:43, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
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The fact that he was a socialist. Dangerranger54 ( talk) 06:01, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Not done: He's identified in the article as the leader of the National Socialist Party. Pretty self-explanatory. Crboyer ( talk) 06:05, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
This line is problematic:
“They sought "the destruction of existing political and social structure and their supporting elites [and had] profound disdain for civil order, for human and moral values" and for the ideas of classical liberalism as well as those of Marxism.[115]” due to the fact that the Nazis voiced profound disdain for Marxism, but did not actually disdain the ideas of Marxism, and enacted many of them in their regime. The words “as well as those of Marxism” should be removed.
Hitler on May 1, 1927: "We are socialists. We are enemies of today's capitalistic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
Goebbels in Der Angriff in 1928:
"The worker in a capitalist state - that is his greatest misfortune - no longer a human being, no longer a creator, no longer a shaper of things. He has become a machine."
More citations: ( https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2007/11/the_nazis_were_maxists.html) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrsiege ( talk • contribs) 17:12, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi,
Someone put that Adolf's Hitler views on relgion were as follow : He thought that it would be better for the Germans to have Islam , or a japanese like belief system. Because Christianity was full of "meekness and flabbiness".
And all the rest saying that he was against the Churches or catholicism.
Looked at the source of that it gave Albert Speer "Inside the third reich" book. I happen to have read the whole book multiple times, it never states that ever. It never stated that Hitler railed against the Church either.
Why are we not able to edit that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SteveDG ( talk • contribs) 15:51, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
To that answer, i have a copy also i just literally read the whole book about 3 times i think and i just re-read those pages u mentionned from 130 to 150 just in case it differs, it does talk about religion a tiny part of it but it never states that Adolf's hitler rallied against the Church, it never states that he thought islam or a japanese based belief is better for the german people. Those sources are incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:66DE:DC00:BC82:53DF:509A:9F5C ( talk) 11:14, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Proposal to add section about his death, as is normally done for those who are deceased. Should include the cause, aprox time/date, location and maybe Where body is interred. Aarondevo ( talk) 13:52, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
I notice that this article is in the ‘vegetarians’ category, but isn’t that a myth? That he was vegetarian, I mean. I’m not entirely sure but I thought it was a myth. StrexcorpEmployee ( talk) 12:56, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
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suggestion to add Europeana as external link using this template {{EuropeanaEntity}} --> links Europeana agent/base/157558 - Salgo60 ( talk) 10:00, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
...meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article...and I don't see that here. the only thing I see there are more photos, and none of the ones are more especially illustrative of Hitler than the ones already here. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:20, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
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I would like to make an edit to this article that is needed in the article
yours's truly Dead Meme Lord Dead meme lord ( talk) 22:45, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
I noticed that this page has no section for the political ideology of the subject, As I discovered there is a separate article for this ( /info/en/?search=Political_views_of_Adolf_Hitler) I find it strange that this is not listed in the "see also" section- so I have added it for the sake of order. Perhaps since the two are so closely linked the articles should be merged, I leave this at the discretion of more senior editors. -- 1.159.83.54 ( talk) 05:33, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
In the section about the holocaust:
"Hitler's policies resulted in the killing of nearly two million non-Jewish Poles,[351]"
Technically they resulted in the killing of many more non-Jewish Poles than just 2 million. It should be:
"Hitler's policies resulted in the killing of nearly two million civilian, non-Jewish Poles,[351]"
Or something similar. Test123Bug ( talk) 22:04, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
Apologies to all who are sick of this merry go round, but I'm going to try to crack this nut one more time because I stubbornly persist in feeling that this just can't be the best way to get the point across.
On de:Adolf Hitler we write:
Hitler autorisierte die wichtigsten Schritte des Judenmordes und ließ sich über den Verlauf informieren.
My German isn't great, but with the aid of a dictionary I have this rough translation:
Hitler authorized the most significant steps in the [mass] murder of Jews and was informed of the progress.
This seems fair. The citations are to Kershaw and a German dentist de:Hans-Joachim Neumann (?), but I can't verify either as I don't have copies of these books. Assuming they check out, iterating further, I have this try:
Hitler authorized the most significant steps of the Holocaust and was regularly briefed on the progess of the ongoing genocide.
I'm not especially attached to this exact phrasing, but something like this might succeed in laying responsibility where it belongs without the use of abstraction and metaphor. -- causa sui ( talk) 22:34, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I agree with you and I like that sentence better. From what I gather, the Holocaust was mostly planned out by Himmler and Goebbels. It was a collective effort, and saying Hitler was central to it is a tad miselading. Test123Bug ( talk) 08:02, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
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I'm referring to the sentence in the introduction: "the Nazi regime was responsible for the genocide of at least 5.5 million Jews and millions of other victims"
Please correct "at least 5.5 millions Jews" to "nearly 6 millions Jews"
Reliable resources: Yad Vashem: https://www.yadvashem.org/holocaust/about.html#learnmore Wikipedia's page "The Holocaust" /info/en/?search=The_Holocaust 62.0.34.134 ( talk) 06:57, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
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I really don't mind where Diannaa chooses to answer it. I merely request an answer. I have long suspected that Diannaa has a partiality to policing this biography so that its subject is presented in the most negative way possible. This refusal to engage in dialogue about a point that has resurfaced again appears to support this view. As neutrality is a core Wiki content policy, if editors here feel they are unable to approach this biography with impartiality they perhaps should not be editing it. I suggest they certainly should not be one of the chief protectors of non-neutral content. Diannaa's refusal to engage in dialogue and answer simple questions designed to move further a recurring point of contention would appear to confirm a non-neutral partiality. Mystichumwipe ( talk) 11:38, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
• I support changing it to either "from 5 million to 6 million" or to "from 5.5 million to 6 million" bacause a range is better than an exact number (especially in this case). Worst case scenario, I support leaving it as it is.
I would like to add a new picture to the article because the old one has been there for a while, and I personally believe that the newer one is better. AedynSma ( talk) 06:01, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
In the Defeat & Death section, I think it would be important to note that Hitler moved a large amount of troops from the Western front to the Eastern front after the huge loss at Stalingrad. That's partly what made D-Day so successful. So my proposal is:
By late 1944, both the Red Army and the Western Allies were advancing into Germany. Recognising the strength and determination of the Red Army, Hitler decided to use his remaining mobile reserves against the American and British troops, which he perceived as far weaker.[296] On 16 December, he launched the Ardennes Offensive to incite disunity among the Western Allies and perhaps convince them to join his fight against the Soviets.[297]
changed to:
By late 1944, both the Red Army and the Western Allies were advancing into Germany. Recognising the strength and determination of the Red Army, Hitler decided to use his remaining mobile reserves against the American and British troops, which he perceived as far weaker.[296] After failure to recuperate from the casualties at Stalingrad, Hitler ordered a last desperate attempt to once again pierce the Western front: On 16 December, he launched the Ardennes Offensive to incite disunity among the Western Allies and perhaps convince them to join his fight against the Soviets.[297]
Test123Bug ( talk) 09:12, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
There is literally nothing that is cited in the lead. This isn't how wikipedia is supposed to work. Fefkwkefe8 ( talk) 06:16, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
I found the sentence "Hitler's actions and ideology are almost universally regarded as evil. According to historian Ian Kershaw, "Never in history has such ruination—physical and moral—been associated with the name of one man."" has been put in first paragraph of the article. But should it put in first paragraph? Or if it should be in first paragraph, should we include Ian Kershaw's opinion? Mariogoods ( talk) 23:10, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
,,,from the last talk..that is second most cited after IAN ...is...
Joel Feinberg; (Regents Professor of Philosophy and Law) (2003).
Problems at the Roots of Law:. Oxford University Press. p. 189.
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978-0-19-515526-6. Adolf Hitler would win honors, hands down, as the most evil man who ever lived, and the ultimate model of human wickedness...
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PLEASE READ what I will say about this debate (down below). Wikipedia has a neutral point of view and Wikipedia only includes FACTS. When they include OPINIONS (such as Hitler being evil), it is NOT the opinion of Wikipedia, but the opinion of the Majority of humans. When they state Opinions, they do NOT say :"We think Hitler was evil". Instead, they say:"People think Hitler was evil". So, it is not Wikipedia's fault. I believe that the statement about Hitler being seen as evil by the majority of the population(whether true or not) shouldn't be there. Thank you, and please make this change. Jam ai qe ju shikoni ( talk) 10:57, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
It seems like you did not understand me. I know what NPOV is. I am not treating this with kid gloves. Yes, Hitler is seen as evil by most. Yes, maybe he is (who am I to judge?!). Yes, he killed because of his ideology. Of course we HAVE TO INCLUDE that Hitler is seen as evil. 𝐁𝐔𝐓 𝐍𝐎𝐓 𝐈𝐍 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐋𝐄𝐀𝐃 Jam ai qe ju shikoni ( talk) 15:17, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Kierzek, I will consider what you said. It seems like we will never agree on this (sadly). Maybe you do not agree with my reasons. It is OK. It seems like we have only one last chance: VOTING. Do you think we can do that? If so, how? Jam ai qe ju shikoni ( talk) 22:33, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Kierzek, also, please do not mistake me for a nazi or an anti-nazi. I am none. And I do not want to hide Hitler's actions. I try to be neutral when I read history(things happen wether we like it or not) Jam ai qe ju shikoni ( talk) 22:37, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Yes Kierzek, I meant A POLL Jam ai qe ju shikoni ( talk) 17:15, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
Hello, i would like to add my 2 cents. While i don't like it when articles insert opinions about the topic, the prospect of opinions being banned on this site seem unlikely. However, i do think a good case can be made for removing the quote "According to historian Ian Kershaw, "Never in history has such ruination—physical and moral—been associated with the name of one man."" from the lead, for multiple reasons: First, it's redundant to the prior sentence "Hitler's actions and ideology are almost universally regarded as evil". Second, this sentence is not reflected in the body text. Third, the lead shouldn't use references. Fourth, it gives undue weight to this particular historian's take. I'm going to remove it unless someone objects. Koopinator ( talk) 17:35, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Go ahead bro Jam ai qe ju shikoni ( talk) 19:36, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
Our article on Evil highlights very early on that it is an ill-defined concept, with widely differing meanings in different cultures. To use the word in this article as if it has a single, unarguable definition is inappropriate. HiLo48 ( talk) 23:01, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
So, Hitler is a good person, and he is an evil person at the same time? 😂😂 Jam ai qe ju shikoni ( talk) 21:42, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
Bro, no one asked for your opinion. (Redacted) Jam ai qe ju shikoni ( talk) 10:06, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
I consider that value judgement absolutely infantile and unencyclopaedic. Although in a way, I shouldn't be surprised - this is the pinnacle of the widespread anti-racist bias, the ultimate conclusion of that constant scowl permeating every political article here. But I would like to draw your attention to another point - that the use of the word "evil" seems to my knowledge an incredibly Anglocentric phenomenon. To any non-American reader, it would appear as outlandish as young Earth creationism. Evil to whom? There is no source, actually. That would mean absolutely evil... and that's contentious philosophy.-- Adûnâi ( talk) 08:36, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
It looks like this has already been discussed quite a bit, but having spent many years working on contentious political biographies at Wikipedia, I must say that the addition of this sentence to the opening paragraph seems really quite unencyclopedic. It really should be removed. Midnightblueowl ( talk) 12:55, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Hitler's actions and Nazi ideology are almost universally regarded as gravely immoral; [1] according to Kershaw, "Never in history has such ruination—physical and moral—been associated with the name of one man." [2] Hitler's political programme brought about a world war, leaving behind a devastated and impoverished Eastern and Central Europe. Germany suffered wholesale destruction, characterised as Stunde Null (Zero Hour). [3] Hitler's policies inflicted human suffering on an unprecedented scale; [4] according to R. J. Rummel, the Nazi regime was responsible for the democidal killing of an estimated 19.3 million civilians and prisoners of war. [5] In addition, 28.7 million soldiers and civilians died as a result of military action in the European Theatre of World War II. [5] The number of civilians killed during the Second World War was unprecedented in the history of warfare. [6] Historians, philosophers, and politicians often use the word " evil" to describe the Nazi regime. [7]
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I think that there have probably been millions of people as morally bankrupt as Hitler. They just didn’t have the opportunity to exercise their immorality on such a wide scale. Were his enthusiastic followers any less evil? (Cue Buffy Sainte-Marie’s Universal Soldier.) I don’t like the line: "Hitler's actions and ideology are almost universally regarded as evil” as the word evil is used in so many ways, some trivial: “Kimchi tastes evil”. OTOH, I quite like: "According to historian Ian Kershaw, 'Never in history has such ruination—physical and moral—been associated with the name of one man.'" Hard to argue with that association. We even have Godwin’s law as a result. O3000 ( talk) 13:42, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
While I take issue with the specific wording of this contentious sentence, a graver issue (at least at present) is the WP:UNDUE weight that its current location affords it. If you look at FA-rated 20th century political biography articles such as Vladimir Lenin, Jomo Kenyatta, and Nelson Mandela, or indeed GA-rated articles such as Joseph Stalin, you will see that all of the information on how they have been perceived both during their lifetimes and posthumously is relegated to the fourth paragraph of the lede. Thus, in the spirit of standardisation and to avoid the UNDUE weight currently given to this sentence, might I suggest that we move it out of the first paragraph of the lede and into the fourth? Midnightblueowl ( talk) 14:03, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
The problem appears to be with all these proposals to amend the problematical sentence is that we are collectively not approaching this objectively, factually nor with neutrality. Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt (Truman) also deliberately targeted and killed (murdered) millions of civilian, non-combatants based upon their race/ethnicity. What people seem to forget is that during World War 2 there was a war going on!!!!!!! Hitler was a leader of a country involved in that world war, which he stated he never wanted and sought to avoid. In that war ALL the leaders initiated actions that resulted in the deaths of millions of people, over 60% of whom were civilian non-combatants. NEUTRALITY ( WP:NPOV) is a core content policy of wikipedia. To suggest that Hitler was more "evil" than anyone else in history, I suggest is a preposterously subjective viewpoint. And I also suggest that editors who have an attachment to using that word are not being neutral. As others have intimated, the word "evil" is an emotive, western-favoured, imprecise, Christian-religion-associated UNENCYCLOPEDIC value that should not have any place in an encyclopedia that aspires to unemotional, NEUTRAL, fact-based, uncontentious information. Mystichumwipe ( talk) 09:02, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Comment on content, not users. Slatersteven ( talk) 09:35, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Comment on content not users, even if they are the PPC for North Minehead. Slatersteven ( talk) 10:33, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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going to replace dead links Cesternino ( talk) 01:18, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
In one of the very first sentences of the entire article:
"He rose to power as the chancellor of Germany in 1933 and then as Führer in 1934."
I highly recommend hyperlinking the phrase "rose to power" to this article:
/info/en/?search=Adolf_Hitler%27s_rise_to_power
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Done Seems reasonable. Thanks, O3000 ( talk) 13:09, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for spamming a bit but I had another suggestion:
In "Path to defeat" it states:
"On 22 June 1941, contravening the Hitler–Stalin Non-Aggression Pact of 1939"
It really should be called the German–Polish Non-Aggression Pact, as it has strictly been referred to as this throughout the whole article. Also it kind of undermines the fact that the entirety of the two nations were part of this pact. 2601:645:C000:AE10:9C7C:23FD:B029:3F26 ( talk) 06:54, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
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Adolf Hitler died in Argentina on February 13,1962. 68.13.199.55 ( talk) 13:36, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
There is no consensus as of now to remove or modify the existing text. Kraose ( talk) 04:48, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
We currently state in the article that at least 5.5 million Jews were killed in The Holocaust. Please see Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard/Archive 66#Adolf Hitler as to how we arrived at the current figure of 5.5 million. Should we leave it as 5.5 million, increase it to 6 million, or use some other figure? — Diannaa ( talk) 13:07, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
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In the 1st paragraph of the lead section, please link dictatorship. (This has become an often misunderstood term, and there's probably no better place to associate it for interested readers). 2606:A000:1126:28D:7485:6C54:63BE:F276 ( talk) 06:49, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
In this link we can read the baptismal record of Adolf Hitler: https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/oberoesterreich/braunau-am-inn/106%252F1889/?pg=8 . The article states that he was baptized as "Adolphus", and obviously this information is wrong. I changed the text, but I decided to immediately roll my edition back and brought the question to the talk page, since I'm not a regular editor here. Dantadd ( talk) 20:56, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
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Atteprestent ( talk) 10:55, 25 May 2020 (UTC) it would be nice to change the german thing becaus adolf hitler was born in austria and lived more then 15 years in austria i would like to change where hes told to be german becaus hes actually austrian hope it will get noticed
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13:28, 25 May 2020 (UTC)A promotion to this article would be amazing. This is one of Wikipedia's best articles. If not, The best. It goes into great detail on how Hitler committed the worst crimes in all of human history. LockyHimself ( talk) 19:36, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
There’s a translation in the article of the inscription outside the House where Adolf Hitler was born:
For peace, freedom and democracy never again fascism millions of dead remind [us]
Is “remind [us]” the best translation of „mahnen“? To me the German original sounds more like the dead millions “urge us” to do the right thing now, rather than “remind us” about something.
I speak Scandinavian language varieties as L1 and Standard English ans Standard German as L2. Perhaps my understanding of „mahnen“ is too much influenced by Scandinavian. Jan Arvid Götesson ( talk) 11:20, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
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Would like to change a sentence to make it more accurate - make "gravely immoral" to "evil"
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Include in this article that Hitler had, allegedly, an illegitimate son named Jean-Marie Loret Jim Arthur ( talk) 14:06, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
" Hitler's actions and Nazi ideology are almost universally regarded as gravely immoral. According to Ian Kershaw, "Never in history has such ruination—physical and moral—been associated with the name of one man." "
There should be spaces between the hyphens, like so:
" Hitler's actions and Nazi ideology are almost universally regarded as gravely immoral. According to Ian Kershaw, "Never in history has such ruination - physical and moral - been associated with the name of one man." "
That's just grammatically correct. I think an error was made when copy pasting from the source as it doesn't appear like that on the page. Here's a random source off Google just for good measure: https://7esl.com/hyphen/ 75.130.248.250 ( talk) 18:35, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect A. Hitler. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 17#A. Hitler until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 06:15, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
In the Ancestry section, it states
"historians dismiss the claim that Alois' father was Jewish"
Why mention it, then? The article doesn't mention the other infinity things historians dismiss.
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The claim that Hitler's paternal grandfather was a Jewish man living in Graz came from Hitler's personal attorney Hans Frank. The claim is usually dismissed on the grounds that Graz did not have any Jews at the time. Last year, Leonard Sax (who is, somewhat bizarrely, a psychologist) published a paper in the Journal of European Studies arguing that the issue should be reexamined. Sax says that Graz did in fact have a Jewish population then and that the claim to the contrary derives solely from a non-academic publication by a certain Nikolaus von Preradovich who (Sax claims to prove) was a Hitler admirer. However, Sax was unable to locate a Jew in Graz with the right name. I think this material belongs in the article, as readers will come here to look for it. Zero talk 02:50, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
In the Ancestry section, please change "legitimated" to "legitimised". As far as I know the former is not an actual word. IF it turms out to be the case that 'legitimated' is the technically-correct word in this connect, then it should still be changed to something such as "declared legitimate." Either way, 'legitimated' has the appearance of being substandard, incorrect English and it should not be used, whether it is or isn't a real word (because if it is it is so obscure that to most people it looks like a made up word). Firejuggler86 ( talk) 01:18, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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1) Caption "Hitler in 1942 with his long-time lover Eva Braun." should identify location of the image viz "Hitler in 1942 with his long-time lover Eva Braun at Berghof (Berchtesgaden)."
2) Caption "Film of Hitler at Berchtesgaden (c. 1941)" should add note to caption that "(the film has been digitised back to front (left - right reversal))" Source to confirm - check the Berghof floor plan here http://www.worldfuturefund.org/Pictures/Bergfloorplan/Berg.htm 203.206.89.202 ( talk) 10:05, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
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Looking at the floor plan and then projecting from one 2D image to another with a different perspective requires such a combination of material. If this is to be added, we need a source that explicitly identifies the film as reversed. I hope that helps.
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I've stayed out of this one, but I have to agree with those recurring editors that tend to assume (1938) ia a typo captioning the main infobox photo of AH. I understand the logic that says identifying the subject is strictly speaking redundant, however, in most captioning - here and in the real world - the caption identifies the subject, even when doing so is not strictly necessary. Whether it be "Brad Pitt at the Oscars 2003" or "Mum and dad in 1970", WP articles, in newspaper/book photos, or private albums, the eye expects sufficient info to identify the subject, even when the subject is largely self-evident, or already known. This isn't a photo of 1938 - since such is impossible - but the effect on me is to assume the bracketed year must be an error which therefore draws more attention to itself than a bland caption, "Hitler in 1938" for example, would do. I will go with the majority on this, but have found myself agreeing with those trying to fix the naked year. {{subst:xsign}10:28, 17 August 2020 Pincrete}}
There is a statement near the end of 'entry into politics':
"Historians have noted the hypnotic effect of his rhetoric on large audiences, and of his eyes in small groups. Algis Budrys recalled the crowd noise and behaviour when Hitler appeared in a 1936 parade; some in the audience writhed and rolled on the ground or experienced fecal incontinence."
The statement from Algis Budrys (via Pontin 2008 - a review of his science fiction work) that states people experienced 'fecal incontinence' around Hitler because he was so mesmerising. Algis Budrys was 5 years old when he claims to have witnessed this. There is agreement that he saw Hitler, but is that really a reliable statement given his age and the fact his family was anti-facist? The idea that people literally shat themselves because they saw Hitler borders on ridiculous and brings down the tone of the article. If someone can find me a Ian Kershaw et al quote then by all means keep it, otherwise it should go. Discuss. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stingray Trainer ( talk • contribs) 13:56, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Many citations completely failed verification.
Citation 172 is a clear example of a case where the claim is not backed in anyway by the given citation. The book is available at archive.org https://archive.org/embed/B-001-014-606
failed verification — Preceding unsigned comment added by NateDyer ( talk • contribs)
While many trade union delegates were in Berlin for May Day activities, SA stormtroopers demolished union offices around the country. On 2 May 1933 all trade unions were forced to dissolve and their leaders were arrested. Some were sent to concentration camps....? Should the reference be moved to between "were arrested" and "Some were," with a different citation placed after "concentration camps"...? Should "Some were sent to the concentration camps" be removed? Should both sentences ("While many [...] camps"} be removed?
On May 2, the trade-union headquarters throughout the country were occupied, union funds confiscated, the unions dissolved and the leaders captured. Many were beaten and lodged in concentration camps.
Back in 2009, it was revealed that the skull fragments that the Russian government have kept as proof that Hitler shot himself was from a woman. This has been known for eleven years now, and there is no reliable evidence that Hitler committed suicide in the bunker, other than what has been presented and proven not to be Hitler. I do not feel that something so unverified should be labeled as fact, just because it has been presented as fact for over 70 years. I'll leave a credible source discussing this, and there are many other credible sources concerning the matter. ( https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/hitler-s-supposed-skull-really-belongs-to-a-woman-1.837652) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.161.12 ( talk) 12:45, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
In the Adolf Hitler article it has been reported that there has been creators or editors that have added non-neutral or controversial information. Please remove the security on the article that prevents anyone from editing because the authorized editors have disallowed controversial information to be removed by saying it’s unconstructive. Wikipedia also won’t delete racist comments put on the discussion posts about the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:1026:C893:154F:B2F4:22FD:36CA ( talk) 03:12, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
I frankly think that the Article is terrible. It has false info that can lead students to a bit of a sticky situation. I hope you all are using this Article CORRECTLY, without messing with it. I have several questions not found in this article since I'm studying for a test and younger children probably don't know that wiki articles are editable. Please wiki, don't give others permission to edit. Some of this info is so old that I can correct as many as I want! Thanks for reading this though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:644:8001:4680:9870:FCD2:41C3:FB0A ( talk) 07:41, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
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Add the following categories to this page:
Category:20th-century German artists|Painters
Category:German male painters
Category:20th-century painters|German
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Some of the information was incorrect and I would like access to change the things you did wrong. 137.90.207.207 ( talk) 17:51, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
How can an encyclopedia not even mention his mustache in passing? Encyclopedia Britannica would never... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C51:757F:812E:5C5A:2297:FA55:C654 ( talk) 07:31, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
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i want to edit Crk2684 ( talk) 15:34, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi folks! Can an admin please add 2-3 sentences about Ataturk's influence on Hitler, which should not be underestimated. Please see this Harvard book with several links at the bottom for a starting point: https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674368378 Thanks! DivineReality ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:34, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
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change, or add, occupation from Politician To Austrian Painter 2600:1700:F280:C1E0:8582:1E5B:E1F:35D9 ( talk) 02:31, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
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Hitler killed 17 million in the Holocaust and from Nazi Persecution the lead should mention this as it is used also on the Holocaust wiki page and it is from a academic institute the source and is a current estimate. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/documenting-numbers-of-victims-of-the-holocaust-and-nazi-persecution 46.71.34.178 ( talk) 06:49, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
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adolf hitler was a german politican. he wanted to build germany into a better country after world war 1. he started the nazi party. he murdered thousands of jewish people, he forced them to wear the star of david on their arm. he also forced them to take birth control pills that wasnt even ready nor tested for use. he went and forced every black man to get himself "fixed". Truthseeker10111 ( talk) 17:25, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
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Change Age at Death from 56 to 66 204.83.131.70 ( talk) 05:05, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Please ignore my math error. Sorry. 204.83.131.70 ( talk) 05:11, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Adolf Hitler had jewish ancestors
https://www.history.com/news/study-suggests-adolf-hitler-had-jewish-and-african-ancestors
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Hello, I will be changing the image of the article from the black and white version to the coloured version. Both are from a cooperation project and I think that the coloured version is better. If you think that I should revert it, please let me know why here. PyroFloe ( talk) 02:13, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
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So, I would like to edit the first sentence of this article. As I have discovered on Google, his real name is “Der Führer”, which means in English, “The Leader”.
Here is the edit I will make in the sentence: “Adolf Hitler, more popularly known as Der Führer (The Leader), ...”
Is that ok? Please let me know and I will reply. Thank you! JoshuaSaver ( talk) 02:05, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Ok maybe I’ll change it to more commonly known as his actual name. JoshuaSaver ( talk) 02:45, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Oh ok, thanks for asking. Also can you archive this discussion? Thank you! JoshuaSaver ( talk) 03:46, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
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This article introduces Hitler as a 'German' politician, whereas he was in fact Austrian. He worked within the German political system, but was of Austrian nationality. 2A02:C7F:9CFB:B300:A1AF:406D:667F:6130 ( talk) 09:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
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Adolf had 2 children recently confirmed by american historians 2A02:C7F:8AC6:7900:256D:5F1A:78DA:7337 ( talk) 18:52, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, I was reading up on Henry Tandey when i noticed his run in with hitler so i wanted to see if they went into more detail on hitlers wikipedia page. sadly i did not see this and would like to implement this run in into the world war 1 section of hitlers wiki page
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In the final sentence of the "Defeat and death" section of the page, it states: "According to Kershaw, the corpses of Braun and Hitler were fully burned when the Red Army found them in 1945, and only a lower jaw with dental work could be identified as Hitler's remains." It should be added that while the USSR claimed this lower jaw to be Hitler's, later inspection from outside sources discovered it to be belonging to a young woman, therefore not Hitler's. 2601:40C:200:19E0:4090:7141:D1F4:90F8 ( talk) 17:03, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
No doubt this has been debated previously although I couldn’t track down exactly this point in the archive: are we really satisfied with the first sentence describing him as “... an Austrian-born German politician and leader of the Nazi Party.” It sounds so...normal. Just another politician. Are we going for the banality of evil here? Surely, the word politician should (at least) be replaced with the word “dictator”? DeCausa ( talk) 23:54, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Adolf Hitler was an Austrian-born German politician who was dictator of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945. He rose to power as the leader of the Nazi Party (officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party or NSDAP), becoming the chancellor of Germany in 1933 and the Führer in 1934.[a] During his dictatorship, he initiated World War II in Europe by invading Poland on 1 September 1939. He was closely involved in military operations throughout the war and was central to the perpetration of the Holocaust, the genocide of about 6 million Jews and millions of other victims.
Would you create a template sidebar for Adolf Hitler? -- 2001:4452:4AE:8A00:31C8:9235:C1E2:5AB ( talk) 15:13, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
This is contrary to the MOS:ETHNICITY. I suggest removing this from the lead section. Aoito ( talk) 01:43, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
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Remove "Austrian-born" from the leading section.
@ Beyond My Ken and Mechanical Keyboarder: I saw your recent edits and reverts und would like to give my opinion on the matter.
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Please also see the section above for details. Thank you. Regards -- Yhdwww ( talk) 11:16, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
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I want to add a citation. Is that ok? Citationeditor2000 ( talk) 17:53, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
This is a good article, but i feel like this article needs one more picture. My editing habit for Wikipedia is adding pictures, so maybe other users can understand the article better. My username is Joshua's Number9, and i have reached 300 edits right now. I am close to getting 500 edits to become an extended-confirmed user. And again, I would politely like to add a picture. Thank you!
Here is the picture: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Adolf_Hitler_in_Yugoslavia_crop2.JPG
I'm sorry that I have to bring this up again, but @ Mechanical Keyboarder:, you just put a "the" back into the lead, changing "was dictator of Germany" to "was the dictator of Germany". As a reason you gave MOS:JOBTITLES. I've looked at the MOS and can't find any rule saying it should be the dictator. I don't think it should be "the dictator" in this instance, so please explain your change. Thank you. Regards -- Yhdwww ( talk) 13:34, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
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These additionals info (2 letters + Bernhard Lustig's testimony) have been apparently (*) published only in the 2011/09/29 paperback version of this book "Hitler's First War Adolf Hitler, the Men of the List Regiment, and the First World War" Thomas Weber ISBN : 9780199226382 (*) I don't have access to this book!
Excerpts from this article (2011/10/21 HITLER'S WAR BOAST EXPOSED AS A MYTH Unpublished letters disprove claim that he was blinded in action by a British mustard gas attack https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/history/hitlers-war-boast-exposed-as-a-myth-2373590.html Here is a similar article : Hitler's war boast is a lie, letters show https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8840279/Hitlers-war-boast-is-a-lie-letters-show.html )
"(...)Letters written by two prominent American neurologists cast serious doubts on Hitler's mental state at the end of the First World War, confirming that he was treated for "hysterical amblyopia", a psychiatric disorder known as "hysterical blindness".(...) /info/en/?search=Hysterical_Blindness /info/en/?search=Conversion_disorder (...)The letters, written in 1943, recall that Otfrid Förster, a renowned neurosurgeon, told each of the Americans in the 1930s that he had inspected Hitler's medical file from Pasewalk military hospital in Germany in 1918. He told them the file clearly showed that Hitler had been treated for hysterical blindness. (...) Other new evidence brought to Dr Weber's attention following his book came from Bernhard Lustig, a Jewish veteran from Hitler's regiment who emigrated to Palestine in 1933. Lustig said that "in none of their encounters had Hitler displayed any anti-Semitic tendencies... nor any leadership qualities"."
Otfrid Foerster (Otfrid Förster) /info/en/?search=Otfrid_Foerster
/info/en/?search=Robert_Foster_Kennedy I did not find a wikipedia entry for Victor Gonda.
One of the 2 letters : https://figgseyeclinic.com/2015/09/16/hitlers-psychogenic-amblyopia-during-the-great-war/
A critical review of the book https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2QT33TUOXW8J2/
I am not an expert, so in your opinion is there anything here worth to be included in wikipedia ? Thanks in advance Jurbop ( talk) 14:30, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your help. I just asked my question here : /info/en/?search=Talk:Psychopathography_of_Adolf_Hitler#Additional_infos_about_Hitler%27s_medical_lost_file_%3F Please delete my question here if this is the correct way to do it. Thanks in advance Jurbop ( talk) 06:08, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
The category's description says: "People who hate Jews should be in Category:Antisemitism instead." Hitler did not "criticise" Judaism, he hated Jews and systematically murdered millions of them. Furthermore, Ezra Pound was removed from the category earlier this year. ― Susmuffin Talk 02:16, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
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"who" in the intro should be "whom". 148.252.24.230 ( talk) 17:42, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I need to request a political sidebar for Adolf Hitler?
{{Adolf Hitler series}}
Well, I should request it for later on. -- TaleofTalisman ( talk) 06:36, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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Change this line:
Hitler followed a vegetarian diet.[414]
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Hitler followed a mostly vegetarian diet.[414]
According to ( /info/en/?search=Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism), Hitler still ate liver dumplings. This by definition would make him not vegetarian in the literal sense.
Thank you! Stix1776 ( talk) 05:49, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
Re "Hitler followed a mostly vegetarian diet,[414] with the exception of liver dumplings.[415]"
I originally looked at this because I thought the phrasing might be improved, however according to various witnesses at Adolf Hitler and vegetarianism, AH may have 'lapsed' at various times, in various ways by eating various different meats/meat products - knowingly or otherwise (liver dumplings is simply Ilse Hess's version). Everyone there appears to agree though that AH was mainly vegetarian.
Is the liver dumplings detail worth it? It isn't that reliable and doesn't seem to indicate anything particular about his beliefs or practices. Unless anybody objects, I'll take out the dumplings! Pincrete ( talk) 12:28, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
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To include that hitler's parents are possibly jewish and the reason that he tried to exterminate all the jews is because of his mothers death. Kalleeboomvr ( talk) 20:53, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Regarding this paragraph of the introduction I recommend to change " civilians" by "other civilians", because it can be understood that the millions of Jews killed by genocide were not exactly civilians, which is an aberration:
" Under Hitler's leadership and racially motivated ideology, the Nazi regime was responsible for the genocide of at least 5.5 million Jews and millions of other victims whom he and his followers deemed Untermenschen (subhumans) or socially undesirable. Hitler and the Nazi regime were also responsible for the killing of an estimated 19.3 million OTHER civilians and prisoners of war. In addition, 28.7 million soldiers and civilians died as a result of military action in the European theatre. The number of civilians killed during World War II was unprecedented in warfare, and the casualties constitute the deadliest conflict in history."
Thanks you for the correction.-- Ttestbleuu ( talk) 10:35, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
This should link to List of wars by death toll, not World War II (redundant; it says "World War II" at the beginning of the sentence. 174.115.100.93 ( talk) 17:43, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
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The fact that he was a socialist. Dangerranger54 ( talk) 06:01, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Not done: He's identified in the article as the leader of the National Socialist Party. Pretty self-explanatory. Crboyer ( talk) 06:05, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
This line is problematic:
“They sought "the destruction of existing political and social structure and their supporting elites [and had] profound disdain for civil order, for human and moral values" and for the ideas of classical liberalism as well as those of Marxism.[115]” due to the fact that the Nazis voiced profound disdain for Marxism, but did not actually disdain the ideas of Marxism, and enacted many of them in their regime. The words “as well as those of Marxism” should be removed.
Hitler on May 1, 1927: "We are socialists. We are enemies of today's capitalistic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
Goebbels in Der Angriff in 1928:
"The worker in a capitalist state - that is his greatest misfortune - no longer a human being, no longer a creator, no longer a shaper of things. He has become a machine."
More citations: ( https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2007/11/the_nazis_were_maxists.html) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrsiege ( talk • contribs) 17:12, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi,
Someone put that Adolf's Hitler views on relgion were as follow : He thought that it would be better for the Germans to have Islam , or a japanese like belief system. Because Christianity was full of "meekness and flabbiness".
And all the rest saying that he was against the Churches or catholicism.
Looked at the source of that it gave Albert Speer "Inside the third reich" book. I happen to have read the whole book multiple times, it never states that ever. It never stated that Hitler railed against the Church either.
Why are we not able to edit that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SteveDG ( talk • contribs) 15:51, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
To that answer, i have a copy also i just literally read the whole book about 3 times i think and i just re-read those pages u mentionned from 130 to 150 just in case it differs, it does talk about religion a tiny part of it but it never states that Adolf's hitler rallied against the Church, it never states that he thought islam or a japanese based belief is better for the german people. Those sources are incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:66DE:DC00:BC82:53DF:509A:9F5C ( talk) 11:14, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Proposal to add section about his death, as is normally done for those who are deceased. Should include the cause, aprox time/date, location and maybe Where body is interred. Aarondevo ( talk) 13:52, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
I notice that this article is in the ‘vegetarians’ category, but isn’t that a myth? That he was vegetarian, I mean. I’m not entirely sure but I thought it was a myth. StrexcorpEmployee ( talk) 12:56, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
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...meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article...and I don't see that here. the only thing I see there are more photos, and none of the ones are more especially illustrative of Hitler than the ones already here. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:20, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
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I would like to make an edit to this article that is needed in the article
yours's truly Dead Meme Lord Dead meme lord ( talk) 22:45, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
I noticed that this page has no section for the political ideology of the subject, As I discovered there is a separate article for this ( /info/en/?search=Political_views_of_Adolf_Hitler) I find it strange that this is not listed in the "see also" section- so I have added it for the sake of order. Perhaps since the two are so closely linked the articles should be merged, I leave this at the discretion of more senior editors. -- 1.159.83.54 ( talk) 05:33, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
In the section about the holocaust:
"Hitler's policies resulted in the killing of nearly two million non-Jewish Poles,[351]"
Technically they resulted in the killing of many more non-Jewish Poles than just 2 million. It should be:
"Hitler's policies resulted in the killing of nearly two million civilian, non-Jewish Poles,[351]"
Or something similar. Test123Bug ( talk) 22:04, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
Apologies to all who are sick of this merry go round, but I'm going to try to crack this nut one more time because I stubbornly persist in feeling that this just can't be the best way to get the point across.
On de:Adolf Hitler we write:
Hitler autorisierte die wichtigsten Schritte des Judenmordes und ließ sich über den Verlauf informieren.
My German isn't great, but with the aid of a dictionary I have this rough translation:
Hitler authorized the most significant steps in the [mass] murder of Jews and was informed of the progress.
This seems fair. The citations are to Kershaw and a German dentist de:Hans-Joachim Neumann (?), but I can't verify either as I don't have copies of these books. Assuming they check out, iterating further, I have this try:
Hitler authorized the most significant steps of the Holocaust and was regularly briefed on the progess of the ongoing genocide.
I'm not especially attached to this exact phrasing, but something like this might succeed in laying responsibility where it belongs without the use of abstraction and metaphor. -- causa sui ( talk) 22:34, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I agree with you and I like that sentence better. From what I gather, the Holocaust was mostly planned out by Himmler and Goebbels. It was a collective effort, and saying Hitler was central to it is a tad miselading. Test123Bug ( talk) 08:02, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
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I'm referring to the sentence in the introduction: "the Nazi regime was responsible for the genocide of at least 5.5 million Jews and millions of other victims"
Please correct "at least 5.5 millions Jews" to "nearly 6 millions Jews"
Reliable resources: Yad Vashem: https://www.yadvashem.org/holocaust/about.html#learnmore Wikipedia's page "The Holocaust" /info/en/?search=The_Holocaust 62.0.34.134 ( talk) 06:57, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
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I really don't mind where Diannaa chooses to answer it. I merely request an answer. I have long suspected that Diannaa has a partiality to policing this biography so that its subject is presented in the most negative way possible. This refusal to engage in dialogue about a point that has resurfaced again appears to support this view. As neutrality is a core Wiki content policy, if editors here feel they are unable to approach this biography with impartiality they perhaps should not be editing it. I suggest they certainly should not be one of the chief protectors of non-neutral content. Diannaa's refusal to engage in dialogue and answer simple questions designed to move further a recurring point of contention would appear to confirm a non-neutral partiality. Mystichumwipe ( talk) 11:38, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
• I support changing it to either "from 5 million to 6 million" or to "from 5.5 million to 6 million" bacause a range is better than an exact number (especially in this case). Worst case scenario, I support leaving it as it is.
I would like to add a new picture to the article because the old one has been there for a while, and I personally believe that the newer one is better. AedynSma ( talk) 06:01, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
In the Defeat & Death section, I think it would be important to note that Hitler moved a large amount of troops from the Western front to the Eastern front after the huge loss at Stalingrad. That's partly what made D-Day so successful. So my proposal is:
By late 1944, both the Red Army and the Western Allies were advancing into Germany. Recognising the strength and determination of the Red Army, Hitler decided to use his remaining mobile reserves against the American and British troops, which he perceived as far weaker.[296] On 16 December, he launched the Ardennes Offensive to incite disunity among the Western Allies and perhaps convince them to join his fight against the Soviets.[297]
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By late 1944, both the Red Army and the Western Allies were advancing into Germany. Recognising the strength and determination of the Red Army, Hitler decided to use his remaining mobile reserves against the American and British troops, which he perceived as far weaker.[296] After failure to recuperate from the casualties at Stalingrad, Hitler ordered a last desperate attempt to once again pierce the Western front: On 16 December, he launched the Ardennes Offensive to incite disunity among the Western Allies and perhaps convince them to join his fight against the Soviets.[297]
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There is literally nothing that is cited in the lead. This isn't how wikipedia is supposed to work. Fefkwkefe8 ( talk) 06:16, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
I found the sentence "Hitler's actions and ideology are almost universally regarded as evil. According to historian Ian Kershaw, "Never in history has such ruination—physical and moral—been associated with the name of one man."" has been put in first paragraph of the article. But should it put in first paragraph? Or if it should be in first paragraph, should we include Ian Kershaw's opinion? Mariogoods ( talk) 23:10, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
,,,from the last talk..that is second most cited after IAN ...is...
Joel Feinberg; (Regents Professor of Philosophy and Law) (2003).
Problems at the Roots of Law:. Oxford University Press. p. 189.
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978-0-19-515526-6. Adolf Hitler would win honors, hands down, as the most evil man who ever lived, and the ultimate model of human wickedness...
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PLEASE READ what I will say about this debate (down below). Wikipedia has a neutral point of view and Wikipedia only includes FACTS. When they include OPINIONS (such as Hitler being evil), it is NOT the opinion of Wikipedia, but the opinion of the Majority of humans. When they state Opinions, they do NOT say :"We think Hitler was evil". Instead, they say:"People think Hitler was evil". So, it is not Wikipedia's fault. I believe that the statement about Hitler being seen as evil by the majority of the population(whether true or not) shouldn't be there. Thank you, and please make this change. Jam ai qe ju shikoni ( talk) 10:57, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
It seems like you did not understand me. I know what NPOV is. I am not treating this with kid gloves. Yes, Hitler is seen as evil by most. Yes, maybe he is (who am I to judge?!). Yes, he killed because of his ideology. Of course we HAVE TO INCLUDE that Hitler is seen as evil. 𝐁𝐔𝐓 𝐍𝐎𝐓 𝐈𝐍 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐋𝐄𝐀𝐃 Jam ai qe ju shikoni ( talk) 15:17, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Kierzek, I will consider what you said. It seems like we will never agree on this (sadly). Maybe you do not agree with my reasons. It is OK. It seems like we have only one last chance: VOTING. Do you think we can do that? If so, how? Jam ai qe ju shikoni ( talk) 22:33, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Kierzek, also, please do not mistake me for a nazi or an anti-nazi. I am none. And I do not want to hide Hitler's actions. I try to be neutral when I read history(things happen wether we like it or not) Jam ai qe ju shikoni ( talk) 22:37, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Yes Kierzek, I meant A POLL Jam ai qe ju shikoni ( talk) 17:15, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
Hello, i would like to add my 2 cents. While i don't like it when articles insert opinions about the topic, the prospect of opinions being banned on this site seem unlikely. However, i do think a good case can be made for removing the quote "According to historian Ian Kershaw, "Never in history has such ruination—physical and moral—been associated with the name of one man."" from the lead, for multiple reasons: First, it's redundant to the prior sentence "Hitler's actions and ideology are almost universally regarded as evil". Second, this sentence is not reflected in the body text. Third, the lead shouldn't use references. Fourth, it gives undue weight to this particular historian's take. I'm going to remove it unless someone objects. Koopinator ( talk) 17:35, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Go ahead bro Jam ai qe ju shikoni ( talk) 19:36, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
Our article on Evil highlights very early on that it is an ill-defined concept, with widely differing meanings in different cultures. To use the word in this article as if it has a single, unarguable definition is inappropriate. HiLo48 ( talk) 23:01, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
So, Hitler is a good person, and he is an evil person at the same time? 😂😂 Jam ai qe ju shikoni ( talk) 21:42, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
Bro, no one asked for your opinion. (Redacted) Jam ai qe ju shikoni ( talk) 10:06, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
I consider that value judgement absolutely infantile and unencyclopaedic. Although in a way, I shouldn't be surprised - this is the pinnacle of the widespread anti-racist bias, the ultimate conclusion of that constant scowl permeating every political article here. But I would like to draw your attention to another point - that the use of the word "evil" seems to my knowledge an incredibly Anglocentric phenomenon. To any non-American reader, it would appear as outlandish as young Earth creationism. Evil to whom? There is no source, actually. That would mean absolutely evil... and that's contentious philosophy.-- Adûnâi ( talk) 08:36, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
It looks like this has already been discussed quite a bit, but having spent many years working on contentious political biographies at Wikipedia, I must say that the addition of this sentence to the opening paragraph seems really quite unencyclopedic. It really should be removed. Midnightblueowl ( talk) 12:55, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Hitler's actions and Nazi ideology are almost universally regarded as gravely immoral; [1] according to Kershaw, "Never in history has such ruination—physical and moral—been associated with the name of one man." [2] Hitler's political programme brought about a world war, leaving behind a devastated and impoverished Eastern and Central Europe. Germany suffered wholesale destruction, characterised as Stunde Null (Zero Hour). [3] Hitler's policies inflicted human suffering on an unprecedented scale; [4] according to R. J. Rummel, the Nazi regime was responsible for the democidal killing of an estimated 19.3 million civilians and prisoners of war. [5] In addition, 28.7 million soldiers and civilians died as a result of military action in the European Theatre of World War II. [5] The number of civilians killed during the Second World War was unprecedented in the history of warfare. [6] Historians, philosophers, and politicians often use the word " evil" to describe the Nazi regime. [7]
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I think that there have probably been millions of people as morally bankrupt as Hitler. They just didn’t have the opportunity to exercise their immorality on such a wide scale. Were his enthusiastic followers any less evil? (Cue Buffy Sainte-Marie’s Universal Soldier.) I don’t like the line: "Hitler's actions and ideology are almost universally regarded as evil” as the word evil is used in so many ways, some trivial: “Kimchi tastes evil”. OTOH, I quite like: "According to historian Ian Kershaw, 'Never in history has such ruination—physical and moral—been associated with the name of one man.'" Hard to argue with that association. We even have Godwin’s law as a result. O3000 ( talk) 13:42, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
While I take issue with the specific wording of this contentious sentence, a graver issue (at least at present) is the WP:UNDUE weight that its current location affords it. If you look at FA-rated 20th century political biography articles such as Vladimir Lenin, Jomo Kenyatta, and Nelson Mandela, or indeed GA-rated articles such as Joseph Stalin, you will see that all of the information on how they have been perceived both during their lifetimes and posthumously is relegated to the fourth paragraph of the lede. Thus, in the spirit of standardisation and to avoid the UNDUE weight currently given to this sentence, might I suggest that we move it out of the first paragraph of the lede and into the fourth? Midnightblueowl ( talk) 14:03, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
The problem appears to be with all these proposals to amend the problematical sentence is that we are collectively not approaching this objectively, factually nor with neutrality. Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt (Truman) also deliberately targeted and killed (murdered) millions of civilian, non-combatants based upon their race/ethnicity. What people seem to forget is that during World War 2 there was a war going on!!!!!!! Hitler was a leader of a country involved in that world war, which he stated he never wanted and sought to avoid. In that war ALL the leaders initiated actions that resulted in the deaths of millions of people, over 60% of whom were civilian non-combatants. NEUTRALITY ( WP:NPOV) is a core content policy of wikipedia. To suggest that Hitler was more "evil" than anyone else in history, I suggest is a preposterously subjective viewpoint. And I also suggest that editors who have an attachment to using that word are not being neutral. As others have intimated, the word "evil" is an emotive, western-favoured, imprecise, Christian-religion-associated UNENCYCLOPEDIC value that should not have any place in an encyclopedia that aspires to unemotional, NEUTRAL, fact-based, uncontentious information. Mystichumwipe ( talk) 09:02, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Comment on content, not users. Slatersteven ( talk) 09:35, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Comment on content not users, even if they are the PPC for North Minehead. Slatersteven ( talk) 10:33, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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going to replace dead links Cesternino ( talk) 01:18, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
In one of the very first sentences of the entire article:
"He rose to power as the chancellor of Germany in 1933 and then as Führer in 1934."
I highly recommend hyperlinking the phrase "rose to power" to this article:
/info/en/?search=Adolf_Hitler%27s_rise_to_power
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Done Seems reasonable. Thanks, O3000 ( talk) 13:09, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for spamming a bit but I had another suggestion:
In "Path to defeat" it states:
"On 22 June 1941, contravening the Hitler–Stalin Non-Aggression Pact of 1939"
It really should be called the German–Polish Non-Aggression Pact, as it has strictly been referred to as this throughout the whole article. Also it kind of undermines the fact that the entirety of the two nations were part of this pact. 2601:645:C000:AE10:9C7C:23FD:B029:3F26 ( talk) 06:54, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
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Adolf Hitler died in Argentina on February 13,1962. 68.13.199.55 ( talk) 13:36, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
There is no consensus as of now to remove or modify the existing text. Kraose ( talk) 04:48, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
We currently state in the article that at least 5.5 million Jews were killed in The Holocaust. Please see Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard/Archive 66#Adolf Hitler as to how we arrived at the current figure of 5.5 million. Should we leave it as 5.5 million, increase it to 6 million, or use some other figure? — Diannaa ( talk) 13:07, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
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In the 1st paragraph of the lead section, please link dictatorship. (This has become an often misunderstood term, and there's probably no better place to associate it for interested readers). 2606:A000:1126:28D:7485:6C54:63BE:F276 ( talk) 06:49, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
In this link we can read the baptismal record of Adolf Hitler: https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/oberoesterreich/braunau-am-inn/106%252F1889/?pg=8 . The article states that he was baptized as "Adolphus", and obviously this information is wrong. I changed the text, but I decided to immediately roll my edition back and brought the question to the talk page, since I'm not a regular editor here. Dantadd ( talk) 20:56, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
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Atteprestent ( talk) 10:55, 25 May 2020 (UTC) it would be nice to change the german thing becaus adolf hitler was born in austria and lived more then 15 years in austria i would like to change where hes told to be german becaus hes actually austrian hope it will get noticed
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13:28, 25 May 2020 (UTC)A promotion to this article would be amazing. This is one of Wikipedia's best articles. If not, The best. It goes into great detail on how Hitler committed the worst crimes in all of human history. LockyHimself ( talk) 19:36, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
There’s a translation in the article of the inscription outside the House where Adolf Hitler was born:
For peace, freedom and democracy never again fascism millions of dead remind [us]
Is “remind [us]” the best translation of „mahnen“? To me the German original sounds more like the dead millions “urge us” to do the right thing now, rather than “remind us” about something.
I speak Scandinavian language varieties as L1 and Standard English ans Standard German as L2. Perhaps my understanding of „mahnen“ is too much influenced by Scandinavian. Jan Arvid Götesson ( talk) 11:20, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
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Would like to change a sentence to make it more accurate - make "gravely immoral" to "evil"
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Include in this article that Hitler had, allegedly, an illegitimate son named Jean-Marie Loret Jim Arthur ( talk) 14:06, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
" Hitler's actions and Nazi ideology are almost universally regarded as gravely immoral. According to Ian Kershaw, "Never in history has such ruination—physical and moral—been associated with the name of one man." "
There should be spaces between the hyphens, like so:
" Hitler's actions and Nazi ideology are almost universally regarded as gravely immoral. According to Ian Kershaw, "Never in history has such ruination - physical and moral - been associated with the name of one man." "
That's just grammatically correct. I think an error was made when copy pasting from the source as it doesn't appear like that on the page. Here's a random source off Google just for good measure: https://7esl.com/hyphen/ 75.130.248.250 ( talk) 18:35, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect A. Hitler. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 17#A. Hitler until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 06:15, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
In the Ancestry section, it states
"historians dismiss the claim that Alois' father was Jewish"
Why mention it, then? The article doesn't mention the other infinity things historians dismiss.
TerminatorXtotheEdgeofPanic ( talk) 11:53, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
The claim that Hitler's paternal grandfather was a Jewish man living in Graz came from Hitler's personal attorney Hans Frank. The claim is usually dismissed on the grounds that Graz did not have any Jews at the time. Last year, Leonard Sax (who is, somewhat bizarrely, a psychologist) published a paper in the Journal of European Studies arguing that the issue should be reexamined. Sax says that Graz did in fact have a Jewish population then and that the claim to the contrary derives solely from a non-academic publication by a certain Nikolaus von Preradovich who (Sax claims to prove) was a Hitler admirer. However, Sax was unable to locate a Jew in Graz with the right name. I think this material belongs in the article, as readers will come here to look for it. Zero talk 02:50, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
In the Ancestry section, please change "legitimated" to "legitimised". As far as I know the former is not an actual word. IF it turms out to be the case that 'legitimated' is the technically-correct word in this connect, then it should still be changed to something such as "declared legitimate." Either way, 'legitimated' has the appearance of being substandard, incorrect English and it should not be used, whether it is or isn't a real word (because if it is it is so obscure that to most people it looks like a made up word). Firejuggler86 ( talk) 01:18, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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1) Caption "Hitler in 1942 with his long-time lover Eva Braun." should identify location of the image viz "Hitler in 1942 with his long-time lover Eva Braun at Berghof (Berchtesgaden)."
2) Caption "Film of Hitler at Berchtesgaden (c. 1941)" should add note to caption that "(the film has been digitised back to front (left - right reversal))" Source to confirm - check the Berghof floor plan here http://www.worldfuturefund.org/Pictures/Bergfloorplan/Berg.htm 203.206.89.202 ( talk) 10:05, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
2) is not done because of
WP:SYNTH: Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources.
Looking at the floor plan and then projecting from one 2D image to another with a different perspective requires such a combination of material. If this is to be added, we need a source that explicitly identifies the film as reversed. I hope that helps.
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Maurice Magnus ( talk) 00:44, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
I've stayed out of this one, but I have to agree with those recurring editors that tend to assume (1938) ia a typo captioning the main infobox photo of AH. I understand the logic that says identifying the subject is strictly speaking redundant, however, in most captioning - here and in the real world - the caption identifies the subject, even when doing so is not strictly necessary. Whether it be "Brad Pitt at the Oscars 2003" or "Mum and dad in 1970", WP articles, in newspaper/book photos, or private albums, the eye expects sufficient info to identify the subject, even when the subject is largely self-evident, or already known. This isn't a photo of 1938 - since such is impossible - but the effect on me is to assume the bracketed year must be an error which therefore draws more attention to itself than a bland caption, "Hitler in 1938" for example, would do. I will go with the majority on this, but have found myself agreeing with those trying to fix the naked year. {{subst:xsign}10:28, 17 August 2020 Pincrete}}
There is a statement near the end of 'entry into politics':
"Historians have noted the hypnotic effect of his rhetoric on large audiences, and of his eyes in small groups. Algis Budrys recalled the crowd noise and behaviour when Hitler appeared in a 1936 parade; some in the audience writhed and rolled on the ground or experienced fecal incontinence."
The statement from Algis Budrys (via Pontin 2008 - a review of his science fiction work) that states people experienced 'fecal incontinence' around Hitler because he was so mesmerising. Algis Budrys was 5 years old when he claims to have witnessed this. There is agreement that he saw Hitler, but is that really a reliable statement given his age and the fact his family was anti-facist? The idea that people literally shat themselves because they saw Hitler borders on ridiculous and brings down the tone of the article. If someone can find me a Ian Kershaw et al quote then by all means keep it, otherwise it should go. Discuss. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stingray Trainer ( talk • contribs) 13:56, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Many citations completely failed verification.
Citation 172 is a clear example of a case where the claim is not backed in anyway by the given citation. The book is available at archive.org https://archive.org/embed/B-001-014-606
failed verification — Preceding unsigned comment added by NateDyer ( talk • contribs)
While many trade union delegates were in Berlin for May Day activities, SA stormtroopers demolished union offices around the country. On 2 May 1933 all trade unions were forced to dissolve and their leaders were arrested. Some were sent to concentration camps....? Should the reference be moved to between "were arrested" and "Some were," with a different citation placed after "concentration camps"...? Should "Some were sent to the concentration camps" be removed? Should both sentences ("While many [...] camps"} be removed?
On May 2, the trade-union headquarters throughout the country were occupied, union funds confiscated, the unions dissolved and the leaders captured. Many were beaten and lodged in concentration camps.
Back in 2009, it was revealed that the skull fragments that the Russian government have kept as proof that Hitler shot himself was from a woman. This has been known for eleven years now, and there is no reliable evidence that Hitler committed suicide in the bunker, other than what has been presented and proven not to be Hitler. I do not feel that something so unverified should be labeled as fact, just because it has been presented as fact for over 70 years. I'll leave a credible source discussing this, and there are many other credible sources concerning the matter. ( https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/hitler-s-supposed-skull-really-belongs-to-a-woman-1.837652) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.161.12 ( talk) 12:45, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
In the Adolf Hitler article it has been reported that there has been creators or editors that have added non-neutral or controversial information. Please remove the security on the article that prevents anyone from editing because the authorized editors have disallowed controversial information to be removed by saying it’s unconstructive. Wikipedia also won’t delete racist comments put on the discussion posts about the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:1026:C893:154F:B2F4:22FD:36CA ( talk) 03:12, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
I frankly think that the Article is terrible. It has false info that can lead students to a bit of a sticky situation. I hope you all are using this Article CORRECTLY, without messing with it. I have several questions not found in this article since I'm studying for a test and younger children probably don't know that wiki articles are editable. Please wiki, don't give others permission to edit. Some of this info is so old that I can correct as many as I want! Thanks for reading this though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:644:8001:4680:9870:FCD2:41C3:FB0A ( talk) 07:41, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
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Add the following categories to this page:
Category:20th-century German artists|Painters
Category:German male painters
Category:20th-century painters|German
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Some of the information was incorrect and I would like access to change the things you did wrong. 137.90.207.207 ( talk) 17:51, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
How can an encyclopedia not even mention his mustache in passing? Encyclopedia Britannica would never... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C51:757F:812E:5C5A:2297:FA55:C654 ( talk) 07:31, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
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i want to edit Crk2684 ( talk) 15:34, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi folks! Can an admin please add 2-3 sentences about Ataturk's influence on Hitler, which should not be underestimated. Please see this Harvard book with several links at the bottom for a starting point: https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674368378 Thanks! DivineReality ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:34, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
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change, or add, occupation from Politician To Austrian Painter 2600:1700:F280:C1E0:8582:1E5B:E1F:35D9 ( talk) 02:31, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
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Hitler killed 17 million in the Holocaust and from Nazi Persecution the lead should mention this as it is used also on the Holocaust wiki page and it is from a academic institute the source and is a current estimate. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/documenting-numbers-of-victims-of-the-holocaust-and-nazi-persecution 46.71.34.178 ( talk) 06:49, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
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adolf hitler was a german politican. he wanted to build germany into a better country after world war 1. he started the nazi party. he murdered thousands of jewish people, he forced them to wear the star of david on their arm. he also forced them to take birth control pills that wasnt even ready nor tested for use. he went and forced every black man to get himself "fixed". Truthseeker10111 ( talk) 17:25, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
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Change Age at Death from 56 to 66 204.83.131.70 ( talk) 05:05, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Please ignore my math error. Sorry. 204.83.131.70 ( talk) 05:11, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Adolf Hitler had jewish ancestors
https://www.history.com/news/study-suggests-adolf-hitler-had-jewish-and-african-ancestors
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Hello, I will be changing the image of the article from the black and white version to the coloured version. Both are from a cooperation project and I think that the coloured version is better. If you think that I should revert it, please let me know why here. PyroFloe ( talk) 02:13, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
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So, I would like to edit the first sentence of this article. As I have discovered on Google, his real name is “Der Führer”, which means in English, “The Leader”.
Here is the edit I will make in the sentence: “Adolf Hitler, more popularly known as Der Führer (The Leader), ...”
Is that ok? Please let me know and I will reply. Thank you! JoshuaSaver ( talk) 02:05, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Ok maybe I’ll change it to more commonly known as his actual name. JoshuaSaver ( talk) 02:45, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Oh ok, thanks for asking. Also can you archive this discussion? Thank you! JoshuaSaver ( talk) 03:46, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
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This article introduces Hitler as a 'German' politician, whereas he was in fact Austrian. He worked within the German political system, but was of Austrian nationality. 2A02:C7F:9CFB:B300:A1AF:406D:667F:6130 ( talk) 09:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
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Adolf had 2 children recently confirmed by american historians 2A02:C7F:8AC6:7900:256D:5F1A:78DA:7337 ( talk) 18:52, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, I was reading up on Henry Tandey when i noticed his run in with hitler so i wanted to see if they went into more detail on hitlers wikipedia page. sadly i did not see this and would like to implement this run in into the world war 1 section of hitlers wiki page
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In the final sentence of the "Defeat and death" section of the page, it states: "According to Kershaw, the corpses of Braun and Hitler were fully burned when the Red Army found them in 1945, and only a lower jaw with dental work could be identified as Hitler's remains." It should be added that while the USSR claimed this lower jaw to be Hitler's, later inspection from outside sources discovered it to be belonging to a young woman, therefore not Hitler's. 2601:40C:200:19E0:4090:7141:D1F4:90F8 ( talk) 17:03, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
No doubt this has been debated previously although I couldn’t track down exactly this point in the archive: are we really satisfied with the first sentence describing him as “... an Austrian-born German politician and leader of the Nazi Party.” It sounds so...normal. Just another politician. Are we going for the banality of evil here? Surely, the word politician should (at least) be replaced with the word “dictator”? DeCausa ( talk) 23:54, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Adolf Hitler was an Austrian-born German politician who was dictator of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945. He rose to power as the leader of the Nazi Party (officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party or NSDAP), becoming the chancellor of Germany in 1933 and the Führer in 1934.[a] During his dictatorship, he initiated World War II in Europe by invading Poland on 1 September 1939. He was closely involved in military operations throughout the war and was central to the perpetration of the Holocaust, the genocide of about 6 million Jews and millions of other victims.
Would you create a template sidebar for Adolf Hitler? -- 2001:4452:4AE:8A00:31C8:9235:C1E2:5AB ( talk) 15:13, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
This is contrary to the MOS:ETHNICITY. I suggest removing this from the lead section. Aoito ( talk) 01:43, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
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Remove "Austrian-born" from the leading section.
@ Beyond My Ken and Mechanical Keyboarder: I saw your recent edits and reverts und would like to give my opinion on the matter.
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Please also see the section above for details. Thank you. Regards -- Yhdwww ( talk) 11:16, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
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I want to add a citation. Is that ok? Citationeditor2000 ( talk) 17:53, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
This is a good article, but i feel like this article needs one more picture. My editing habit for Wikipedia is adding pictures, so maybe other users can understand the article better. My username is Joshua's Number9, and i have reached 300 edits right now. I am close to getting 500 edits to become an extended-confirmed user. And again, I would politely like to add a picture. Thank you!
Here is the picture: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Adolf_Hitler_in_Yugoslavia_crop2.JPG
I'm sorry that I have to bring this up again, but @ Mechanical Keyboarder:, you just put a "the" back into the lead, changing "was dictator of Germany" to "was the dictator of Germany". As a reason you gave MOS:JOBTITLES. I've looked at the MOS and can't find any rule saying it should be the dictator. I don't think it should be "the dictator" in this instance, so please explain your change. Thank you. Regards -- Yhdwww ( talk) 13:34, 8 February 2021 (UTC)