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This was initated by User:AnkhMorpork regarding content of the Rachel Corrie page.-- Mystichumwipe ( talk) 11:50, 17 September 2012 (UTC) [1] reply

  • Declined: While these edits are reverts and do have intervening edits, those edits are not substantial content edits. There are three edits by Tom harrison ( talk · contribs) doing small formatting fixes that do not affect article content, and one edit from a bot restoring an orphaned ref. The edit warring policy states that "a series of consecutive saved revert edits by one user with no intervening edits by another user counts as one revert" and while there are intervening edits in this case, they are not content-related and are so minor and that I'm inclined to treat Mystichumwipe's edits as one single revert. I believe this is in line with the intended spirit of the edit warring policy, which is designed to stop a back-and-forth revert war over content. That's not what I see here. -- Chris (talk) 15:23, 13 September 2012 (UTC) reply

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I thought it a courtesy to let you know that questions have been raised about your editing on my talk page, in the section Advice please. JamesBWatson ( talk) 20:10, 14 September 2012 (UTC) reply

I have replied on your talkpage.-- Mystichumwipe ( talk) 08:32, 16 September 2012 (UTC) reply
This was also initated by AnkhMorpork regarding content of the Rachel Corrie page.-- Mystichumwipe ( talk) 11:51, 17 September 2012 (UTC) reply

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Hello Mystichumwipe. I made some changes to improve the formatting of your 3RR report. Please check to see if I made any mistakes, or undo my change if you disagree. (There were some redlinks and some URLs presented that were not in the usual diff brackets). Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 15:35, 21 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Cheers m'dear. :-) I've checked and added a few links. But the main thing is that I see now how it should have been done. So... Thanks. I appreciate your help. -- Mystichumwipe ( talk) 05:56, 22 September 2012 (UTC) reply


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added a note re Sam Pivnik and his changing position re Avey on Pivnik's talk page. It may be reverted but you can find it. I think it may interest you Sceptic1954 ( talk) 17:14, 29 September 2012 (UTC) reply

You have e-mail Jim1138 ( talk) 08:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC) reply

I'm told by the Imperial War Museum that the full tape of Avey's interview with Lyn Smith from 2001 is now back online. I haven't tested it out http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/80020527 If it works I will want to add links to the tape in the article. Sceptic1954 ( talk) 17:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC) reply

Yeah. Well spotted. Good work. Go for it-- Mystichumwipe ( talk) 14:39, 20 December 2012 (UTC) reply

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I have now provided a link to the source of the copyright-free 'parchment' image.-- Mystichumwipe ( talk) 11:34, 6 March 2013 (UTC) reply

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Although only one sentence was problematic, this and a previous warning suggest you still don't understand not to copy from sources. Aside from copyright issues, these edits 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 suggest you may have a point of view incompatible with the project. Moneytrees🏝️ Talk/ CCI guide 21:14, 12 April 2021 (UTC) reply

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I have been blocked indefinitely for supposedly infringing copyright rules. I argue that I did not break copyright rules. I instead referenced briefly some factual information and in doing so I did not copy any verbatim text from the source cited. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Edmond_Bordeaux_Szekely&diff=1017451003&oldid=1016504325 The block was not necessary to prevent damage or disruption. The implication that I have some sort of ‘viewpoint’ that is not compatible with the wikipedia project is given vaguely as merely a suggestion. It appears to be a personal opinion not based in any repeated infringement of wiki policy. Mystichumwipe ( talk) 12:57, 23 April 2021 (UTC) reply

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Well, first of all you did infringe Wikipedia's copyright policy. Minor changes in phrasing such as replacing "lectured and published books" with "gave lectures and published books" are not a defence either in law or in terms of Wikipedia's copyright policy: copying does not have to be totally "verbatim". However, that is a fairly minor point. Far more significant is the fact that you have made it abundantly clear over a period of a little more than ten years that you are here to promote points of view on certain issues, and that you are willing to use any kind of method to do so, including misrepresenting sources, attempting to portray what you must know are fringe opinions as though they are mainstream views if they happen to support your point of view, and removing material inimicable to the views that you wish to promote. That has indeed been such a major focus of your editing for the whole of the time you have been here that your presence does very much more harm than benefit to the project, and unblocking you would not be beneficial. JBW ( talk) 20:01, 7 May 2021 (UTC) reply


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None of that has anything to do with copyright, which is the reason given for my blocking. Wikipedia has rules for editing, none of which you have shown I have broken. Just picking a few contributions from many and expressing a negative opinion of them ironically is itself not in accordance with the principles of Wikipedia as I understand them. Is any administrator going to look at this blocking for copyright? Or is it not really about copyright? Mystichumwipe ( talk) 10:27, 1 May 2021 (UTC) reply

Fair enough, the rationale given in the block log and in the block notice both give only copyright violation, whereas it is clear, as you must have been aware, from the comment given by Moneytrees in conjunction with the block notice that copyright was not, in fact the only reason, so I have adjusted the block log to reflect the wider range of reasons. JBW ( talk) 20:01, 7 May 2021 (UTC) reply

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This was initated by User:AnkhMorpork regarding content of the Rachel Corrie page.-- Mystichumwipe ( talk) 11:50, 17 September 2012 (UTC) [1] reply

  • Declined: While these edits are reverts and do have intervening edits, those edits are not substantial content edits. There are three edits by Tom harrison ( talk · contribs) doing small formatting fixes that do not affect article content, and one edit from a bot restoring an orphaned ref. The edit warring policy states that "a series of consecutive saved revert edits by one user with no intervening edits by another user counts as one revert" and while there are intervening edits in this case, they are not content-related and are so minor and that I'm inclined to treat Mystichumwipe's edits as one single revert. I believe this is in line with the intended spirit of the edit warring policy, which is designed to stop a back-and-forth revert war over content. That's not what I see here. -- Chris (talk) 15:23, 13 September 2012 (UTC) reply

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I have replied on your talkpage.-- Mystichumwipe ( talk) 08:32, 16 September 2012 (UTC) reply
This was also initated by AnkhMorpork regarding content of the Rachel Corrie page.-- Mystichumwipe ( talk) 11:51, 17 September 2012 (UTC) reply

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Hello Mystichumwipe. I made some changes to improve the formatting of your 3RR report. Please check to see if I made any mistakes, or undo my change if you disagree. (There were some redlinks and some URLs presented that were not in the usual diff brackets). Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 15:35, 21 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Cheers m'dear. :-) I've checked and added a few links. But the main thing is that I see now how it should have been done. So... Thanks. I appreciate your help. -- Mystichumwipe ( talk) 05:56, 22 September 2012 (UTC) reply


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added a note re Sam Pivnik and his changing position re Avey on Pivnik's talk page. It may be reverted but you can find it. I think it may interest you Sceptic1954 ( talk) 17:14, 29 September 2012 (UTC) reply

You have e-mail Jim1138 ( talk) 08:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC) reply

I'm told by the Imperial War Museum that the full tape of Avey's interview with Lyn Smith from 2001 is now back online. I haven't tested it out http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/80020527 If it works I will want to add links to the tape in the article. Sceptic1954 ( talk) 17:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC) reply

Yeah. Well spotted. Good work. Go for it-- Mystichumwipe ( talk) 14:39, 20 December 2012 (UTC) reply

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I have now provided a link to the source of the copyright-free 'parchment' image.-- Mystichumwipe ( talk) 11:34, 6 March 2013 (UTC) reply

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I have been blocked indefinitely for supposedly infringing copyright rules. I argue that I did not break copyright rules. I instead referenced briefly some factual information and in doing so I did not copy any verbatim text from the source cited. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Edmond_Bordeaux_Szekely&diff=1017451003&oldid=1016504325 The block was not necessary to prevent damage or disruption. The implication that I have some sort of ‘viewpoint’ that is not compatible with the wikipedia project is given vaguely as merely a suggestion. It appears to be a personal opinion not based in any repeated infringement of wiki policy. Mystichumwipe ( talk) 12:57, 23 April 2021 (UTC) reply

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Well, first of all you did infringe Wikipedia's copyright policy. Minor changes in phrasing such as replacing "lectured and published books" with "gave lectures and published books" are not a defence either in law or in terms of Wikipedia's copyright policy: copying does not have to be totally "verbatim". However, that is a fairly minor point. Far more significant is the fact that you have made it abundantly clear over a period of a little more than ten years that you are here to promote points of view on certain issues, and that you are willing to use any kind of method to do so, including misrepresenting sources, attempting to portray what you must know are fringe opinions as though they are mainstream views if they happen to support your point of view, and removing material inimicable to the views that you wish to promote. That has indeed been such a major focus of your editing for the whole of the time you have been here that your presence does very much more harm than benefit to the project, and unblocking you would not be beneficial. JBW ( talk) 20:01, 7 May 2021 (UTC) reply


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None of that has anything to do with copyright, which is the reason given for my blocking. Wikipedia has rules for editing, none of which you have shown I have broken. Just picking a few contributions from many and expressing a negative opinion of them ironically is itself not in accordance with the principles of Wikipedia as I understand them. Is any administrator going to look at this blocking for copyright? Or is it not really about copyright? Mystichumwipe ( talk) 10:27, 1 May 2021 (UTC) reply

Fair enough, the rationale given in the block log and in the block notice both give only copyright violation, whereas it is clear, as you must have been aware, from the comment given by Moneytrees in conjunction with the block notice that copyright was not, in fact the only reason, so I have adjusted the block log to reflect the wider range of reasons. JBW ( talk) 20:01, 7 May 2021 (UTC) reply

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