Is this category for Poles of Lithuanian origins, like Czesław Miłosz, or for Polish minority in Lithuanian Republic? Xx236 ( talk) 09:46, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Is there a uniform format for people associated with Polish Universities? Eg, in Category:Jagiellonian University, there is Category:Alumni of Jagiellonian University (though I think this would be better called Category:Jagiellonian University alumni), but no Category:Jagiellonian University faculty. On the other hand, Category:University of Warsaw has what I would expect in terms of faculty/alumni (for the longest of times, even that was not good, but it finally got fixed a couple of months ago). As for Warsaw University of Technology, it's a mess: no Category:Warsaw University of Technology, no cat for faculty (no one notable there since 1826?), only the poorly named Category:Alumni of Warsaw University of Technology, with a single alumnus (!). Also, Category:Academics by university in Poland has only one subcategory (U. Warsaw)! At any rate, I could go on, but let me stop. This is a bit frustrating, since I run all the time into articles where I would like to fit in such cats -- for some countries, this is very well done, for others, much less so (see Category:People by university, Category:People by educational institution, Category:Academics by university, Category:Alumni by university or college for more on this). I'm willing to help if there is interest in this, but I figure I'd better ask, first. Turgidson ( talk) 20:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
According to German Wiki 95% of the local population has Polish roots. M.K. removes this information. I bet he can find the number in Lithuanian sources, but he prefers to be consor. Is it true that Wikipedia is unreliable? Wow! Xx236 ( talk) 15:27, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
lt:Medininkų seniūnija informs: 3,2% lietuvių, 93,2% lenkų, 2,9% rusų No source. Now I'm not allowed to quote the apparently statistical office data but I have the right to quote less reliable data from a newspaper. What about removing all Lithuanian Wikipedia unsourced articles? Xx236 ( talk) 14:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Do you have to be so nice? Xx236 ( talk) 14:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I've created an article on Testament of Bolesław III Krzywousty, and worked on some of articles form that period. How should we translate dzielnica? Currently we have two articles on Duchy, and two on Province:
The latter is also reffered to as Senioral Province or Duchy of Cracow/Kraków; I don't think it is called 'Senioral Duchy'? Silesian Province is known as Duchy of Silesia (disambig). We still need an article on Sandomierz Duchy/Province. Sigh. A mess. As usual :) Help and comments appreciated! -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
A scan of GB indicates to me that "Silesian Province" is an ambiguous term phrasing that often refers to the Prussian provinces of Silesia, Lower Silesia, and Upper Silesia. "Duchy of Silesia", which is about the same information as "Silesian Province", is used more commonly in English. [1] I think it would be best to merge Duchy of Silesia and Silesian Province. Duchy of Silesia is currently an overlinked disambig page anyway, and the different concepts can be described at a merged page. Olessi ( talk) 22:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
please observe the move history of Duchy of Opava and Nicholas I, Duke of Opava. Henq ( talk) 22:26, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I have created an article about Poland's worst airline disaster LOT Polish Airlines Flight 5055 any input will be appreciated. The article also can highlight the "quality" of goods produced in the USSR (and the small value of life in the USSR). Mieciu K ( talk) 23:55, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Causes_of_World_War_II#Polish_pre-war_massacres_of_Germans Interested editors are welcomed to voice their opinion -- Molobo ( talk) 00:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I believe that 1939 in the name is POV. Xx236 ( talk) 10:57, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Because the Polish POV is Government Delegate's Office at Home,Okręgowa Delegatura Rządu Wilno [2]. Xx236 ( talk) 15:51, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't accept the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and German and Soviet annexations of 1939. The title does. Xx236 ( talk) 16:57, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
6,000,000 Jews were also killed De facto, which deosn't prove that the murder was legal. Xx236 ( talk) 09:46, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
The Polish state existed until it was replaced by the Communist puppet, accepted by superpowers. If the state existed it decided about its administrational division. Xx236 ( talk) 09:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
I would like to create this article. Can anyone provide sources? Appleseed ( Talk) 15:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
On a related topic, there is a pl wiki article that could be used as a basis for List of military facilities of the Soviet Union in Poland.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:00, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Country Poland, Austria - rather Nazi Germany or Germany, Austria Xx236 ( talk) 15:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
A very interesting unit, help is much appreciated. 49th Hutsul Rifle Regiment Tymek ( talk) 17:33, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I found a very useful template that I believe can be put to good use on articles regarding Polish and Central and Eastern European history. User:Russavia/Template:Notpropaganda -- Molobo ( talk) 14:23, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
The article whitewashes Gustav Ucicky. they quietly sabotaged virtually every effort from Berlin to generate Nazi propaganda, making serious dramas Heimkehr (1941) was also honored at the Venice festival. Xx236 ( talk) 16:12, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Should anyone wish to comment, it has been proposed here to move " Tadeusz Kościuszko" to "Thaddeus Kosciuszko." Nihil novi ( talk) 03:36, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Some editors have suggested that due to territorial changes an article about formerly German city should be split into two-one for pre-1945 situation, one article treating the city as entiraly post-1945 creation. I believe such thing could lead to similiar treatment of Wrocław, Gdańsk, Szczecin, being cut into two into Wrocław for post-1945 city and Breslau before 1945. Naturally the outcome of such decision would influence articles about Poland. The discussion is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kaliningrad#Some_more_additions_to_name_K.C3.B6nigsberg
Interested editors are welcomed to share their opinion.-- Molobo ( talk) 18:01, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
What about Wilno/Vilnius, Kassa/Koszyce? Xx236 ( talk) 09:33, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
In a series of almost laughable vandalisms ( [3], [4]) reminescent of this troll, several Polish-Lithuanian articles are being vandalized. Please keep watching the article(s) and revert vandalism if spotted. He has so far vandalized Polish minority in Lithuania and Vilnius district municipality; he is using various IPs meaning it is possible I have not uncovered all of his edits.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:24, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I have translated of the famous/infamous "do not fight the bolsheviks" quote I am wondering if "Soviets" and "bolsheviks" should be capitalised in this quote? Mieciu K ( talk) 21:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
While on the subject of this article, shouldn't it be moved to Soviet invasion of Poland, and the latter to Soviet invasion of Poland (disambiguation)? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Dear WikiProject Poland. I and others under wikiProject:European Union am trying to sort out the European Parliament articles before the June 2009 elections. I have created stub articles for the 13 constituencies in Poland, but I am unsure if they have the correct names. This situation has arisen because the relevant legislation ("The Act of 23 January 2004 on Elections to the European Parliament") doesn't give the constituencies formal names: instead, it gives each of them a number, description, and location of the Constituency Electoral Commission (e.g. "Constituency No 2 - covers the territory of the Kujawsko-Pomorskie Voivodeship, the location of the Constituency Electoral Commission is Bydgoszcz").
There seem to be three commonly-used options as follows:
The articles are currently listed under their voivodeship names (see Template:European_Parliament_constituencies_2004-2009, albeit under the English transliterations, i.e. "Lower Silesian and Opole" instead of "Dolnoslaskie and Opolskie")
So my questions to you are:
Thank you for your assistance in this matter, Kind Regards, Anameofmyveryown ( talk) 21:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I run a bot that adds geographical coordinates to articles that do not already have them, based on cross-referencing Wikipedia dump data with the U.S. government's GEONET Names Server data, applying multiple sanity checks to try to prevent false positives. Recently, it hasn't been doing very well with Polish locations, since they seem to have particularly large numbers of cases where two places in Poland have the same name.
Does anyone have a good source of machine-readable GFDL-compatible geodata for Polish locations? If so, please leave me a note on my talk page. -- The Anome ( talk) 00:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
The article doesn't inform about Polish minority and my editions were removed, Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Vilnius being allegedly a better place for them. That article is based however mostly on 1913 data. Would someone be so kind to contribute adding some 20 century data? Xx236 ( talk) 12:08, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
This may be a stupid question, but I figure I will ask anyway. In with fire and sword, was Helena Kurcewiczówna technically Polish? I only ask because in my English copy, she is identified as Ruthenian. Should her article identify her as Polish? Ostap 01:25, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
I would like to kindly ask your opinion on this view expressed by EconomistBR. He uses pretty strong words (sometimes close to NPA violation) to describe his revert of my map (which I, after explaining my reasons, restored). Still, I am assuming he's doing it in good faith and thus I would like to ask your opinion on the justness of his action (irrespective of the tone he uses, which probably is somewhat less typical than in regular Wikiconversations). Any comment on the sense of keeping or deleting the CIA categories (and a map) are most appreciated in this request for comment. Pundit| utter 21:02, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Just to inform, there is a Request for Move on Talk:Casimir I of Poland. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk) 20:10, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The article informs about a Nazi massacre of 1400-1500 Jews so the title should be rather Tykocin massacre. Xx236 ( talk) 13:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I have mostly finished work on Polish culture during World War II. I will now stub and expand Polish culture in the Interbellum; if you have any suggestions (should the name be changed?) or sources I could use, let me know. Then I plan to work on the 1945-1989 culture, see my comment at Talk:Culture_of_Poland#Culture_in_People.27s_Republic_of_Poland and consider commenting there. Thanks, -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 04:07, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Proszę admina o sprawdzenie zawartości tego usuniętego pliku, czy nie ma tam podanego źródła zdjęcia. Być może problem polegał na złym doborze tagu licencji. A.J. ( talk) 19:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if anyone here knows anything about the grandmother of the worldfamous ballerina Marie Taglioni? She was in fact Polish. Her name was Mariane Sophie Stebnowska (another version of her name was Maria Sofia Stempkosta), and she was an opera singer. She married Christoffer Christian Karsten and became the mother of the Swedish ballerina Sophie Karsten and grandmother of Marie Taglioni. She lived 1753-1848 and was from 1782 employed at the Royal Swedish Opera. There does not seem to be any information about her in Swedish wiki about her past before she arived in Sweden, but perhaps she was known in Poland in the 1770s? Perhaps she deserves her article here on English wiki? There does not seem to be any articles at all about Polish actors or singers from the 18th century here. -- 85.226.235.206 ( talk) 20:36, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
sv:Sophie Stebnowska Xx236 ( talk) 12:33, 29 January 2008 (UTC) Stempkosta isn't Polish, rather Stempkoska or Stempkowska. Xx236 ( talk) 12:39, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I have checked through the Polish Biographical Dictionary; there is no entry under "Karsten" (family name) neither any variant of maiden name (Ste..., Stę...). Picus viridis ( talk) 14:26, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the trouble to look, I have wondered about that, and Swedish wiki says nothing about her life before marriage. Perhaps she can be found somewhere else eventually. I'll make a link of the name in case there is ever made an article of it. -- Aciram ( talk) 15:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I would like to request this article to fill in a red link in {{ Postalhistorybycountry}}. Editor(s) who could DYK it would certainly be eligible for an award. Any takers? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 06:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Should they be merged? {{ Polish elections}} and {{ Elections in Poland}}. Perhaps we could split them into historical (pre-89) and modern (post-89)? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Falanga didn't exist during WWII, neither did the ONR. Xx236 ( talk) 15:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Please correct the template. It misinforms. Xx236 ( talk) 09:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I have removed Falanga and ONR. If I'm wrong - please correct. Xx236 ( talk) 07:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I am thinking about restarting Polish Collaboration of the Month. Would anybody be interested in this?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 06:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I am planning a series of articles about pre-1939 Polish fortifications, both in the east and the west. I started with the Sarny Fortified Area, and help is welcome. Perhaps somebody could make the Category Polish Interbellum Fortifications? Tymek ( talk) 20:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm writing a program which automatially generates IPA phonetic representation for Polish words, for use in articles on towns, people etc. If anyone considers themselves knowledgeable on this matter, I'd be grateful if you could have a look at the examples at this user page and let me know if you think there are any errors creeping in. Thanks, -- Kotniski ( talk) 13:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Further to this, I'm also building a couple of templates which may prove useful ({{ IPA-pl}} and {{ Audio-IPA-pl}}). I left a note about them at Template talk:IPA.-- Kotniski ( talk) 15:13, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Ukrainian chauvinists are at it again, turning Polish mathematician Stefan Banach into a Ukrainian. Nihil novi ( talk) 08:15, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Ukrainian chauvinists? Lets see, you have a single anonymous IP address from the US and you are now talking about Ukrainian chauvinists? Of course Banach is Polish. Please lose the anti-Ukrainian sentiment, or at least learn to conceal it better. Ostap 00:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
In case anyone has pertinent information to introduce on the subject, at " Frédéric Chopin" User:Mrglass123 has changed the composer from "Polish" to "Polish-French," citing Encyclopaedia Britannica and an alleged French passport. (This is very much at variance with the view of the Polish Wikipedia.) Nihil novi ( talk) 12:28, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
The party has now moved (for now) from Marshal Piłsudski's to Fryderyk's, with (who else?) our friend Daniel in attendance! Much fun to be had! All are invited. Nihil novi ( talk) 16:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
The government of Belarus doesn't respect the constitution. AN article about the constitution should inform about it. The same all Soviet/Communist constitutions. A constitution isn't a fiction book to be described because of the quality of the text. Xx236 ( talk) 14:33, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
My I ask you not adress me here? I don't like you. Xx236 ( talk) 14:41, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
1936 Soviet Constitution was one of the most liberal in the world. That doesn't mean Soviet Union was. Nonetheless remember that article's have their scops and government's violations should not be discussed extensively in articles about their constitutions.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
As I studied Law I can say saomething about constitiutions in general: Constitiutions of non-democratic countries at first glance may seem as liberal as the constitiutions of democratic countries. They differ in two major points:
New stub has been created: {{ Poland-artist-stub}}.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Yet another fascinating subject from interbellum Poland. As I am not an expert in this field, help is appreciated, look at Gwiazda Polski. Tymek ( talk) 19:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
You may be interested in leaving your thoughts on the notability of this Poland-related article at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marika Michalowska. Thank you.-- h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 19:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi.
There appear to be several users with an anti-German slant who are trying to tint a large number of articles in this way. See for example the edit histories of Former eastern territories of Germany and Expulsion of Germans after World War II, especially user Molobo's edits. Most of his changes introduce vocabulary with an anti-German bias and an unbalanced presentation that paints German actions intentionally "evil". (You will also notice my own edits where I try to undo some of that, without much success as Molobo undoes my undos). I don't want to start an edit war with this person, but rather hope that a majority of users will help watch him so that he doesn't have a chance of spreading his POV. I've also notified the German users notice board here where there was a discussion about this problem earlier. Everyone is invited to continue the discussion there.
Note that I'm not trying to push an anti-Polish POV in return. If someone wanted to introduce one, I'd try to stop that too. I believe wikipedia should not judge historical conflicts at all, neither expressively nor subtly. I hope wikipedia authors can achieve this by working together across nations. The German-Polish conficts are in the past and we don't need to fight them here once again. Anorak2 ( talk) 08:45, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I guess reality just seems to have a pro-Polish bias. That's really too bad. Ostap 19:57, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I don't think it was unfortunate, it was just a humorous answer to unreasonable accusations. Space Cadet ( talk) 18:28, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
AK is on GA review. Changes have been requested here. Please help improve the article; if there are no editors willing to invest their time, this important article will lose its GA status.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Is there anyone with a good accent and access to appropriate recording ware who would feel like recording the Polish names of the voivodeships (województwo świętokrzyskie and so on) for upload? I mean in 16 separate .ogg files, of course.-- Kotniski ( talk) 14:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading Image:Pawiak.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged.
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The traveling circus has now chosen Czeslaw Milosz, who according to one gentleman, was a Lithuanian poet of Polish culture (what a nonsense, never heard of such a phrase). Tymek ( talk) 20:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Everybody loves a good traveling circus. They are usually quite entertaining. Ostap 00:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Britannica, which I think is sort of an authority, calls him (Milosz) a Polish-American. Ostap 03:45, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Has anyone factored into the question of Józef Piłsudski's and Czesław Miłosz's " Lithuaniannness," sheer human perversity? When an individual wishes for some reason to set himself apart from his fellows—particularly if he is upset with them—he will sometimes advert to his (at times, merely supposed) foreign background. Among Germans, Friedrich Nietzsche famously did this, in claiming Polish origin: see " Friedrich Nietzsche" and " Radwan coat of arms." In Miłosz's case, the claim of Lithuanianness partly also involved a desire to emulate his compatriot and fellow-poet Adam Mickiewicz (to whom Miłosz devoted a course at Berkeley). Nihil novi ( talk) 07:24, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Miłosz isn't beloved among Radio Maryja followers. Some of them manifested against his burial in Skałka. He wrote Polish, not Lithuanian, and preferred Kraków, but there is also a number of his pro-Lithuanian statements. A comparison of the Polish Wikipedia article and the English one is helpful. Xx236 ( talk) 07:44, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
A Wikipedia Gem has been found by me. [25]
Among other things-number of Catholics increased by annexation of Western Ukraine in 1939 :) Was Bialystok Western Ukraine ? ;] Another example : In the 1920s, genuine cultural concessions were granted to the nationalities. Communist elites of various nationalities were permitted to flourish and to have considerable self-government.
Almost no information on discrimination of Catholics in Soviet Union.
Naturally there is no single word on Polish catholics in Soviet Union which I presume were among the largest number of Roman Catholics in SU after 1939. Before the war, in Soviet held Ukraine circa 500.000 Poles lived and there is a considerable number of sources recording discrimination against religious activity.
In short, the article needs serious NPOV. I hope people will help.
-- Molobo ( talk) 02:47, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
There is an opinion that such name were incorrect. University of Königsberg and University of Wrocław are labelled as Defunct universities and colleges in Germany. Either both categories are wrong or both are right. Xx236 ( talk) 07:33, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Lemberg was also in Austria. And for a time, Lvov was in Russia. So what? That it makes no sense is not a POV. The name of the category is Defunct universities and colleges in Poland . Like it or not, Lviv is NOT in Poland, therefore it makes as much sense to be in this category as "Defunct universities and colleges in New Zealand" another country Lviv is NOT in. I don't know what you mean about the "be bold" stuff. Ostap 18:08, 11 March 2008 (UTC) You want me to do something: Go ahead and remove the Polish universities from the German category also. It's a standard answer in such situations. Xx236 ( talk) 12:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Xx236 ( talk) 12:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC) Xx236 ( talk) 12:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
The dominant trade is in grain and seeds. I have visited the town but no grain found. Xx236 ( talk) 12:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
I nominated the image to the right at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates . Beware ofdog 19:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I just found this poster and I wondered if SPD demanded 1914 post-war ? I did heard that organisations of transfered Germans did make such claims but from the looks of this SPD did also ? [26] -- Molobo ( talk) 21:29, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
That is very unlikely. Where did you get this poster? Ubudoda ( talk) 02:15, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Article suggest that Valaška (pl:Ciupaga) belongs to Slovak culture only, please correct that. 13:48, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Other than this fascinating article needs expansion, I've noted some errors and confusing items on the accompanying template at Talk:Polish_Secret_State#Not_totally_inclusive. Comments appreciated (I suggest commenting at the linked article's talk page, not here.)! -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:53, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Could someone please reference the Górki set index article? It is currently a dump of Polish place names, and it was attempted to be overridden with a redirect to Gorki without preserving much from the current list. I'd hate to lose a what is a potentially useful list just because it is in a sorry state. Thanks.— Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • ( yo?); 15:42, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
is again being retroactively granted variously Ukrainian, or dual Polish and Ukrainian, nationality. Nihil novi ( talk) 07:27, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
If anyone feels in the mood for an edit war or two (or possibly trying to reason politely with this guy), check out his recent contributions, pushing what he regards as "established English names" for Polish cities.-- Kotniski ( talk) 21:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I know in many aspects the different editors from West Slavic nations have not seen eye to eye, and the community has suffered due to childish naming disputes that usually deteriorate into edit wars. That's why, in the interest of common West Slavic participation on Wikipedia I have proposed a West Slavic WikiProject, that would aim and try to bridge the gaps between us and strive for fair representation of West Slavic interests, be they Polish, Czech, Slovak or Sorbian on the English Wikipedia, as well as effective multilateral debates on a multitude of contentious articles. So, just have a look and voice your support if you want. + Hexagon1 ( t) 23:52, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Since it falls within the purview of this WikiProject, I thought I should advise of a new debate to move the article about Sněžka-Śnieżka. As participants in the associated project with the great interest and knowledge in the specific political and cultural ramifications of this Czech/Polish mountain debate, your views would be especially welcome. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 05:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
OTRS is in need of Polish-speaking volunteers, specifically for handling the backlog of image permissions tickets. Volunteers must be at least 16 years old (and be willing to provide proof of identity), courteous, skilled at resolving disputes, friendly even in the face of hostility, sensitive to the needs of those outside Wikipedia, and have exemplary discretion. Interested parties should apply at m:OTRS/volunteering. Thanks. howcheng { chat} 17:42, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I should like to inform the honourable editors of the Poland-related notice board that I am seriously considering moving Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, a featured article, in order to replace the hyphen in this state's name with an en dash. If you wish to comment, please do so in the relevant thread here. I have also notified the Baltic States notice board. Waltham, The Duke of 23:28, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
A newly created article on Median Europe is proposed for deletion - comments appreciated. Pundit| utter 14:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Should foray be moved to zajazd? Please comment at Talk:Foray.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:48, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Alojzy Ehrlich, legendary Polish-Jewish table tennis player, more info about this personality is welcome. Tymek ( talk) 18:29, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
his sermons, interwove spiritual exhortations with political messages - I don't like the phrase, Popiełuszko wasn't a politician. I have also removed the CIA reference from the text, because Popiełuszko wasn't a CIA tool. Xx236 ( talk) 12:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
The current RFE/RL article is very general. Xx236 ( talk) 14:03, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
I just did a re-write of Congress Poland, could someone have a proof-read? I added no references or text, just took what was there and improved the English, and given my lack of knowledge of Polish history it's possible I made errors in chronology or cast. Thanks, WLU ( talk) 14:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Seems very marginal idea or a hoax. Anyway if somebody wants to comment : It was once proposed that the Duke be made King of Poland, in a move to restore the Polish monarchy much as the Greek monarchy had been restored using imported Royals. In August 1937, the Duke and his wife visited Poland and were well-received. However, due to the invasion of Poland in World War II, the plan was called off.
Supposedly from Picknett, Prince, Prior & Brydon, pp. 142–143. -- Molobo ( talk) 10:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
There is an interesting post by Gene here. Please comment on whether you think that in English language, Wańkowicz should come before or after (for excample) Lewis W. Wannamaker. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
A third part of this set ( Image:Mundurwl6.jpg, Image:Oficer_Marynarka.jpg) for Polish airman) was deleted long time ago and cannot be restored, perhaps somebody could find it and reupload it? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
For those with a geographic bent: " Template:Age of Enlightenment" now places Poland in Eastern rather than Central Europe (apparently in deference to Cold Warriors' bipolar preferences). See also " Template talk:Age of Enlightenment." Germany (" Holy Roman Empire") is in Central Europe, according to this template, Poland is in Eastern. Nihil novi ( talk) 02:34, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, this is childlish, but at the same time annoying. User Lokyz keeps deleting Polish names of such places as Varena and Lentvaris, yet at the same time he insists on keeping a Lithuanian name of Sejny. Double standards, isn't it? My opinion is simple - keep Lithuanian names of Augustow, Sejny or Suwalki (even Bialystok), but also keep Polish names of places as Varena. I am awaiting your opinion. Tymek ( talk) 16:41, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
A new naming convention for places in Slovakia is being discussed at User_talk:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian_experiment#Proposed_naming_convention. Your input will be greatly appreciated. Since these new rules might be later regarded as a precedent by non-involved editors (remember the Danzig/Gdansk case?), I think you will find this ongoing discussion and poll interesting. Tankred ( talk) 03:03, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Please see: Battle of Kostiuchnówka and also relevant to Poland: Forced labor in Germany during World War II and Minority Treaties. They were all submitted to WP:GA recently and reviewers have posted comments on talk. Help addressing the comments/issues pointed out is much needed! -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 03:19, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Is such language allowed in this Wikipedia? It's about November Uprising and January Uprising in Lithuania: Oh, and don't forget the five pub fights, an insult about the Tzar's favourite horse, and the shooting of a Russian Partridge in a Lithuanian Pear Tree! Xx236 ( talk) 15:24, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Who said it? Space Cadet ( talk) 15:29, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
I quote this not as a personal, but ideological problem. I believe that such language is unacceptable and the nationality/name of the author doesn't change anything. Xx236 ( talk) 13:17, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I think we should split List of Poles into many lists. The list is too big. I would like to know what other users think. Masterpiece2000 ( talk) 03:01, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Believe it or not, there are countries (including "allies" of Poland) where many people disparage Poles and Poland. It helps to have a list of prominent Poles to which the ignorant can be directed, where they will discover that Poland actually has made some contributions to world science and culture. As Poeticbent points out, there is a List of Czechs, List of French people, List of Greeks, List of Hungarians, List of Italians, etc. Why should there not be a central List of Poles? The List of Poles, in fact, is superior to the ones named above, because it is illustrated.
Certainly, set up specific individual lists as well, for those seeking more focused or more complete information. But why delete an article that is useful and that is not yet truly unwieldy? Nihil novi ( talk) 04:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
I have expanded the Huta Pieniacka massacre article, input of all contributors is welcomed. Tymek ( talk) 17:59, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Stefan Banach is now described by an anonymous editor, in the article lead, as "an eminent European Ukrainian mathematician... a founder... of the Lwów School of Mathematics at Ivan Franko Lviv National Ukrainian University..." Help! Nihil novi ( talk) 07:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
http://www.rp.pl/artykul/124647.html
When exatly was Vilnius ethnically Lithuanian, if 60% is the highest number in history? Xx236 ( talk) 14:46, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Obviously not, the city used to be Lithuanian-Ruthenian. Xx236 ( talk) 06:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I was illustrating a different article and found this image. Since Polish Wedding is an article about a movie and I could not decide for which of Polish culture and Polish folk related articles is best to use it, I am bringing it here. Perhaps someone will start an article about Polish wedding traditions one day. Happy edits, -- Irpen 20:56, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I have created Category:WikiProject Poland participants. Feel free to add this category on your user page. Masterpiece2000 ( talk) 10:00, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Can someone take over at Stefan Banach? I've already passed my daily quota of reverts. (I've also asked for a block or semi-protection at AN/I and requests for protection.)-- Kotniski ( talk) 11:24, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Give your support or opposition at the Central Europe talk page, since we are looking for a single definition for it.
This issue is related to Poland since it determines where it is located in Europe. ⇨ EconomistBR ⇦ Talk 17:18, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you all that participated and gave their opinion on Proposal II.
Proposal II was approved, 13 editors supported it and 5 editors opposed it. Proposal II is now in effect and it redefined Central Europe. ⇨ EconomistBR ⇦ Talk 23:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
It appears that Proposal II for the definition of " Central Europe" has been adopted. If so, how would this best be implemented on sites such as " Template:Age of Enlightenment," where Poland still appears in the section on "Eastern Europe"? Nihil novi ( talk) 17:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Minor issue: please comment on which layout is better (and help expand the list).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:19, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I added the following subsection to the article on The Black Madonna of Czestochowa. As unbelievable as it may seem its all true. Might be cool for "Did you know", right?
In Vodou, it is believed that a common depiction of Erzulie has its roots in copies of the icon of the Black Madonna of Częstochowa, brought to Haiti by Polish soldiers fighting on both sides of the Haitian Revolution from 1802 onwards. [1] In her Petro nation aspect as Erzulie Dantor she is often depicted as a scarred and buxom woman, holding a child protectively in one hand and a knife in the other. She is a warrior and particularly a fierce protector of women and children. In Santeria, this image is referred to as Santa Barbara Africana. -- Orestek ( talk) 17:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
For anyone who is interested, the same anonymous contributor is again giving his interpretation of Stefan Banach's life and work. Nihil novi ( talk) 08:42, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I have removed Translations paragraph because it contained only Ukrainian ones. Either many languaguages or none. Xx236 ( talk) 09:19, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
More opinions needed: see MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist/Archives/2008/04#komendant.cal.pl. If you agree with me that the case should be reopened, please start a new reqiest at MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'm trying to compile a list of notable references to support a Wikipedia article concerning a video editor. Two I have are in Polish - if there are any Polish speakers that could help by reading the articles this would be appreciated. The articles are here: Clesh#References If you believe from each article the video editor is notable please leave some form of brief comment about each article in the form of a summary above the document in link in the references section (as has been done with the other documents in there). Many thanks, mk ( talk) 21:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
An example: If you wish to play more mind games with this outrageous ... bias, go for it, and you will get a tsunami of references to ...
For me such stament is a blackmail - if you write about it, we (?) will write about other subjects, you won't like. Or maybe a conspiracy - let's not discuss our subjects. Bot are rather organized crime activities than editing. Xx236 ( talk) 07:58, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I've proposed Bili Sarny detention centre for deletion at Afd here. At present this seems to be an invention of a Ukrainian nationalist website, though if anyone has any real information about the existence or non-existence of the place it would be welcome.-- Kotniski ( talk) 09:10, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
From the new article on Fear - Anti-Semitism in Poland after Auschwitz: "The ongoing difficulty many Poles continue to have in confronting the facts of Polish wartime and post war violence against Polish Jews is witnessed daily in the attacks on wikipedia pages discussing the pogroms and murders of Jews carried out by Poles.". Lovely, isn't it? The book is notable, but the article needs some major rewriting to move away from rant style :> -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I believe that this Wikipedia isn't a forum for posting jokes. How to stop such a thread and remove unrelated comments? Xx236 ( talk) 09:05, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Expulsion of Germans after World War II Xx236 ( talk) 07:32, 6 May 2008 (UTC) I haven't succeeded. Xx236 ( talk) 06:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
A couple of years ago I spent hours adding in diacritics to links of Polish cities. Now I see the lack of accents problem is back in a big way. May I please, please remind people (and I really shouldn't be the one doing this): it's Toruń not Torun, Poznań not Poznan, Wrocław not Wroclaw, Łódź not Lodz, and on and on. Thank you. Biruitorul ( talk) 14:28, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Should List of mayors of Gdańsk be split off from List of mayors of Danzig, as was recently done? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:49, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
This category needs to be populated, I guess... -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 04:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
[27] Should events taken place in Toruń be known by the Germanised name version of the city ?
Your choice.-- Molobo ( talk) 14:37, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
So far none have been presented.-- Molobo ( talk) 15:32, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
See my proposal [28] -- Molobo ( talk) 14:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
User Matthead proposed to delete name Karkonosze and replace it with translation of German term Risenberge-Giant Mountains. Vote is under way. You are free to place your opinion: [29] -- Molobo ( talk) 23:58, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Since user Matthead insists on calling Fryderyk Scherfke and Ernest Wilimowski victims of explusion, I am awaiting opinions of editors on this subject - see here [30]. Both Wilimowski and Scherfke were drafted into the Wehrmacht and ended up in western Germany in 1945. Nobody expelled them from Katowice and Poznan. Tymek ( talk) 19:18, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Dukes of Pomerania Radomil talk 17:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Why do Poles drive around in the daytime with their headlights on? Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 08:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC) (currently in Gdansk)
Not only Poles, a number of nations in the EU. Daytime running lamp needs help. Xx236 ( talk) 09:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Really? How amazing. I've been to ten other European countries and I've never seen it before. What purpose does it serve, other than dazzling oncoming drivers? In Australia you'd probably be stopped by the police and told to turn them off. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 16:12, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
In CA and NY it's the law. Space Cadet ( talk) 17:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Speaking as a Gdansk pedestrian, I can tell you it does no such thing. It just adds to the general visual overload of city traffic. (Plus of course they are all driving on the wrong side of the road, hence I have been nearly run over three times today.) Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 17:42, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
OK, we won't pursue this topic :)
On a more important question: I have now been to Szczecin and Gdansk, walking around with old German street maps looking for interesting old buildings (my hobby). Later I will go to Wroclaw as well. It seems to me that Gdansk has done a much more thorough job of removing all relics of German Danzig than Szczecin has done of removing all relics of German Stettin. Is this correct? Is this because Stettin was a German city longer than Danzig was? It is because Poles feel more patriotic about Gdansk than about Szczecin? (Nevertheless I did find a few German inscriptions in Gdansk, such as on the old Polizei Praesidium building.) Also, please see the question about Gdansk I have asked at Talk:Gdansk, which no-one has tried to answer yet. Djenkuye. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 14:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes indeed. I am going to do a "Germany's lost cities" section of my website when I get home. Yesterday I went to KZ Stutthof. Now I am sitting in Olsztyn for two hours (thanks to Polish railways) on my way to see the Wolf's Lair. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 15:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, yes, but the decision to rebuild the Gdansk Old Town as it was before 1772 rather than as it was in 1939 was taken immediately after the war, long before tourism was a consideration. This was a political decision, to erase 160 years of German history from the city, or at least from its historic heart. Stettin was a much more German city than Danzig, so its German heritage was harder to erase. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 16:10, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for those comments, which confirm what I thought about the special place of Gdansk as compared to other cities which became Polish in 1945. I will be in Wroclaw in about two weeks. Thanks to the Polish railways, I had an unexpected night in Olsztyn / Allenstein and found a number of obviously German-built buildings there. It is obvious that this part of Poland (formerly East Prussia) is doing well out of German tourism and there are German signs all over the place, such as on cemeteries where Germans go to look for family graves. Yesterday I was at Ketrzyn / Rastenburg and was very impressed by the presentation of the Wolfsschanze site. It was well worth standing for five hours in a packed and very late train! Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 11:30, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I have created {{ Polish diaspora}} template. Please add any further or new articles to the list. - Darwinek ( talk) 10:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
For those who may have missed it, voting continues on User Meathead's proposal to move the article on the " Karkonosze" Mountains to the more generic title, "Great Mountains," and on User Molobo's counter-proposal to move " Karkonosze" to "Karkonosze/Krkonoše." You may vote at [31]. Nihil novi ( talk) 04:38, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Otolemur crassicaudatus has requested that a plot summary be added to the article on Pharaoh (the film). I have not seen the entire movie and therefore do not feel competent to do it. Any takers? Nihil novi ( talk) 05:06, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Also the template "WikiProject Poland" could be added by a member. Squash Racket ( talk) 04:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone direct me to an online map of central Warsaw with the street names as they were during the communist era? (I visited the Palace of Culture today. It is not nearly as ugly as I had expected. The statues of the handsome proletarians are rather cute :) ) Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 16:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
pl:Zmiany nazw ulic i placów w Warszawie, tables inform about changes, if you prefer maps, see Trasbus link. Xx236 ( talk) 10:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for that. So Warsaw never had Ul Marksa, Lenina, Stalina, Oktobera Revolutsia, Rosa Luksemburga, Boleslava Bieruta etc etc? That's very surprising. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 16:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Plac Defilad was to be allegedly Plac Stalina, but Stalin died. Xx236 ( talk) 06:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm surprised there has never been a Rosa Luxemburg street in Warsaw. There are several in Germany, but she was born in Poland after all. On the other hand she was Jewish... Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 10:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
There was a big RL Factory there. Soviet opinion about RL was changing, RL not always being orthodox. She acted in Germany, so she wasn't a Polish revolutionary. Xx236 ( talk) 10:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Today I am in Poznan. Everywhere people are flying the red-and-white Polish colours, the yellow-and-white, which I assume is the Papal flag, and the pale-blue-and-white. What is this? Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 18:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes I have seen that flag, but the one people are flying from their apartments is a plain pale-blue-and-white bi-colour, and not that shade of blue. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 19:21, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
It would have to be tomorrow morning. I'm on a lunch-time train to Wroclaw. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 20:00, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, the big Polish wikipedian gathering is just finishing in Rabka ( [33]).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:05, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
And it will have to be conducted in English, since my Polish vocabulary has expanded from nil to about six words since I have been here. I'm staying at the Polonez. You're welcome to join me for morning tea. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 20:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
For Kotniski. I'll be in Warsaw probably in August, so we can meet. If you'd be near Silesia we can always meet in Cieszyn. - Darwinek ( talk) 20:19, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
The cafe is on floor A (between 1 and 2). How does 10.30 suit you? Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 20:21, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I'll be the guy in black reading a big book about World War II. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 20:33, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm leaving Poznań on 10:15 and I'll be back after 17:00, so not this time... Radomil talk 20:54, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Within WikiProject Companies I am trying to establish guidelines for all Lists of companies by country, the implementation of which would hopefully ensure a minimum quality standard and level of consistency across all of these related but currently disparate articles. The ultimate goal is the improvement of these articles to Featured List status. As a WikiProject that currently has one of these lists within your scope, I would really appreciate your feedback! You can find the draft guidelines here. Thanks for your help as we look to build consensus and improve Wikipedia! - Richc80 ( talk) 13:54, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists of basic topics/Draft/List of basic Poland topics.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:33, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Why is Italy called "Włochy" in Polish? What is the derivation of this word? Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 20:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC) (now in Krakow)
Thanks for that. Italy is nowhere near Wallachia, but applying the w/g rule gives Gallachia, suggesting that the Poles (as Slavs) saw Italy as part of the Latin or Gallic world, related to the French (although the French use "Galles" to refer to Celts, not Latins). I suppose that makes sense. I still can't find out why the Czechs call Austria "Rakousko". Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 05:23, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Today I leave Poland after three very enjoyable weeks and far too many pirogi. Jenkuye to all. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 05:23, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Lately I was busy moving some of the images from Category:Pre-1994 Poland images to Commons. It seems like the remaining 100 images left do not have any sources to support their claim that they were published in Poland in years 1926-1994, since all that had it are already moved. I would propose changing them to FairUse template and to retire PD-Polish template. -- Jarekt ( talk) 03:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello! I'm interested in witch trials, and think that every country should be represented in the subject. As for Poland, it's hard to find anything about this on the net. If there is anyone here interested in the subject, I think it would be most interesting to have a Polish with trial represented here on wikipedia. Most countrys are alredy represented. I have heard about only two cases; two old women burned in 1793, and Barbara Zdunk, executed in 1811. These where mentioned on the net with very few words. Does anyone here know more about these cases? or any other? I would be grateful just for a stub or a name to google. -- Aciram ( talk) 11:28, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello,
In recent days I've made a new template on polish Wikipedia for linking to articles published by culture.pl service ( pl:szablon:culture). This is rich and interesting source on polish culture and the articles there are also available in few other languages including english, so I thought you may be interested in creating english version of the template (probably as "template:culture.pl") and using it in appropriate places. -- kocio ( talk) 15:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Jak to jest po polsku - bo nie ma interwiki do pl wikipedii? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 15:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
User Irpen claims Russia fought at the Battle of Grunwald [37]. Last time I heard this was during Soviet occupation and I recall it was widely fabricated myth by Soviet propaganda. Can anybody look into this. Wikipedia should be free from Soviet propaganda in my personal view. Although it can mentioned how Soviet histography tried to present Russians as leading the battle. -- Molobo ( talk) 00:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
-- Molobo ( talk) 01:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, I was amazed by this being a surprise and thought for a moment that verifying of this info indeed requires a visit to the library for some out of print book or something. But apparently, the most recent book specifically devoted to the subject (by Turnbull, "Tannenberg 1410: Disaster for the Teutonic Knights", ISBN 9781841765617, published by Osprey) says right on its cover:
So much of Soviet propaganda, HTH, -- Irpen 01:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
A usual Western generalisation towards Ruthanians under Lithuanian vassalisation. Anyway care to explain why the text where nothing is about Novgorod was used by you to source claim that Novgorod took place in the battle ? I see nothing of the sorts in the text provided. As to Ruthanians-no doubt some were in Polish-Lithuanian army just like Hungarians and Bohemians-yet we do not name Czech Republic or Hungary as part of the battle.-- Molobo ( talk) 01:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Molobo, I did not quote the source (chronicle) in the article. When I do, I always note the intermediate source, if there is any, in the references section. This was a talk page discussion. I gave the name of the secondary source, a book, above. You now argue with Posilge? Good luck. Now, I am happy to hear about your teachers. Unfortunately, to this date you refused to name books you read on the subject. I asked you before and received no answer. Anyway, this is a moot point. Removal of sourced info, spinning it in various ways and trying to recruit editors for the edit war is what concerns me most in your actions. -- Irpen 01:37, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Removing false information, removing sources that say nothing about what they should source and asking fellow editors to improve the article is nothing to be concerned about. Using documents from 1418 as base for Wikipedia articles is of course something to worry about, as is usage of XIX century history books published in Imperial Russia as source for Wikipedia articles.-- Molobo ( talk) 01:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Guys, this is not a place for this discussion. Please take it to Talk:Battle of Grunwald.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 15:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
What is to be done when misguided, misinformed editors persist in nonsensical ventures such as trying to turn Józef Piłsudski into a Lithuanian, Stefan Banach into a Ukrainian, Fryderyk Chopin and Maria Skłodowska-Curie into French people, and Nicolaus Copernicus into a German — and find ready audiences of equally misinformed readers? Nihil novi ( talk) 00:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
You might be interested in this afd. Renata ( talk) 14:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I have read about withdrawing Polish units in 1939 being ambushed by Ukrainian insurgents (possibly Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists) does anybody know how widespread and notable those attacks were? Should we add OUN to the Soviet invasion of Poland (1939) Military Conflict Infobox? Mieciu K ( talk) 09:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Mateusz Sołtanowicz (no google/gprint hits), Piotr Sołtanowicz ( few google/no gprint hits), Józef Sołtanowicz (no hits), Jan Sołtanowicz ( few google hits/no gphits), Bolesław Sołtanowicz ( similar). What do you think? All work of a single User:Potocki, who has created little else. I'd think at least the poets would get some gprint hits... -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 14:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
I have expanded Polish culture during World War II and nominated it for Wikipedia:Featured article status. Please take a minute to read the article and comment in the promotion vote. Please help address the issues as they come up, I may not have time to address them all myself. The article has a large amount of red links; please help translate missing articles from pl wikipedia.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Please help address points raised by the reviewers. The article has a large amount of red links; please help translate missing articles from pl wikipedia. Thank you, -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
There are discussions going on about what should be the guidelines on the use or non-use of diacritics in foreign words. It started with an attempt to remove diacritics from the names of tennis players; there is now a proposal on clarifying the guidelines to approve the use of diacritics in general - see WP:UD for the proposal and WT:UD for the discussion. -- Kotniski ( talk) 08:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
We need to move some to subcategory peace treaties, and they in turn need to be divided into proper peace treaties and armistices. Volunteers to do this? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Polish-Muscovite War (1605–1618) has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.-- Berkunt ( talk) 04:05, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
The humoruous essay at meta:Poles are evil, that has survived for years, is in dire danger from the new generation of righteous politically correct people who want to prove Poles are not evil. Consider commenting.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:58, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
What is happening with this user? Is there any way we others can express our disapproval of the block? Ostap 02:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
It's your POV that Molobo is right-wing. The same he is left-wing. Your opinion about Kaczyński government is your POV, don't do your propaganda here. Xx236 ( talk) 11:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
I think the statute of limitations should apply here. If after having been banned for a year, Molobo came back, behaved himself for a year or so, misbehaved again, banned for 24 hours, then for a week - then the next logical step should be a month, three months, a year ... . Not banned indefinitely out of the blue, because someone dug out old bones from the closet. Besides, permban is for fraud and sockpuppetry, not for minor misdemeanors as 3RRs. Go to the Fear: Anti-Semitism in Poland after Auschwitz article and you'll find out some guys with trendy POV got away with even 10RR and countless other violations. And this is not my POV speaking. On the issue of the Kaczyński twins I am with User Thorsten1. These clowns made from Poland a laughingstock throughout European Union. Can't understand why 10 million Polish-Americans are still with them. But that's probably American propaganda at work thanks to our media. When an American goes to Europe, every European keeps telling him that he's been brainwashed. And guess what, I didn't believe that several years ago yet, but now I think they might be right. greg park avenue ( talk) 23:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Thorsten: the first 3RR consisted in fact of three reverts and one move. I'd happily see Molobo and his opponents (it takes more than one to go over 3RR...) on 1RR restriction, for example. They should all learn to create more constructive content, and war less.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Reading the above discussion, the impression I get is that 3RR has been used as a specimen charge, in order to block someone who certain admins feel probably ought to be blocked, though they can't quite justify why. In fact that's the second time I've seen that happen recently. In neither case do I shed any tears over the blockee, but is that really the inteded purpose of 3RR? It seems at best a lazy way of going about things.-- Kotniski ( talk) 16:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
See here. Comments appreciated. Also related: Talk:Regions of Poland, Talk:Administrative division of Polish territories after partitions. Next, we will probably hear an argument that there was no Poland at al :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Piotrus, your opinion that PLC and Poland is one and the same is noted. I hope you will not replace Poland by Commonwealth from now on in articles about the Polish westwards aggressions or anti-Polish uprisings of oppressed population, like for example here. Whenever Poland was a perpetrator, you removed Poland and replaced it by Commonwealth. I am glad to hear that you changed your mind. -- Irpen 18:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
If PLC wasn't Poląnd why do we have Polish-Muscovite war? Xx236 ( talk) 08:22, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Is this category for Poles of Lithuanian origins, like Czesław Miłosz, or for Polish minority in Lithuanian Republic? Xx236 ( talk) 09:46, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Is there a uniform format for people associated with Polish Universities? Eg, in Category:Jagiellonian University, there is Category:Alumni of Jagiellonian University (though I think this would be better called Category:Jagiellonian University alumni), but no Category:Jagiellonian University faculty. On the other hand, Category:University of Warsaw has what I would expect in terms of faculty/alumni (for the longest of times, even that was not good, but it finally got fixed a couple of months ago). As for Warsaw University of Technology, it's a mess: no Category:Warsaw University of Technology, no cat for faculty (no one notable there since 1826?), only the poorly named Category:Alumni of Warsaw University of Technology, with a single alumnus (!). Also, Category:Academics by university in Poland has only one subcategory (U. Warsaw)! At any rate, I could go on, but let me stop. This is a bit frustrating, since I run all the time into articles where I would like to fit in such cats -- for some countries, this is very well done, for others, much less so (see Category:People by university, Category:People by educational institution, Category:Academics by university, Category:Alumni by university or college for more on this). I'm willing to help if there is interest in this, but I figure I'd better ask, first. Turgidson ( talk) 20:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
According to German Wiki 95% of the local population has Polish roots. M.K. removes this information. I bet he can find the number in Lithuanian sources, but he prefers to be consor. Is it true that Wikipedia is unreliable? Wow! Xx236 ( talk) 15:27, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
lt:Medininkų seniūnija informs: 3,2% lietuvių, 93,2% lenkų, 2,9% rusų No source. Now I'm not allowed to quote the apparently statistical office data but I have the right to quote less reliable data from a newspaper. What about removing all Lithuanian Wikipedia unsourced articles? Xx236 ( talk) 14:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Do you have to be so nice? Xx236 ( talk) 14:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I've created an article on Testament of Bolesław III Krzywousty, and worked on some of articles form that period. How should we translate dzielnica? Currently we have two articles on Duchy, and two on Province:
The latter is also reffered to as Senioral Province or Duchy of Cracow/Kraków; I don't think it is called 'Senioral Duchy'? Silesian Province is known as Duchy of Silesia (disambig). We still need an article on Sandomierz Duchy/Province. Sigh. A mess. As usual :) Help and comments appreciated! -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
A scan of GB indicates to me that "Silesian Province" is an ambiguous term phrasing that often refers to the Prussian provinces of Silesia, Lower Silesia, and Upper Silesia. "Duchy of Silesia", which is about the same information as "Silesian Province", is used more commonly in English. [1] I think it would be best to merge Duchy of Silesia and Silesian Province. Duchy of Silesia is currently an overlinked disambig page anyway, and the different concepts can be described at a merged page. Olessi ( talk) 22:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
please observe the move history of Duchy of Opava and Nicholas I, Duke of Opava. Henq ( talk) 22:26, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I have created an article about Poland's worst airline disaster LOT Polish Airlines Flight 5055 any input will be appreciated. The article also can highlight the "quality" of goods produced in the USSR (and the small value of life in the USSR). Mieciu K ( talk) 23:55, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Causes_of_World_War_II#Polish_pre-war_massacres_of_Germans Interested editors are welcomed to voice their opinion -- Molobo ( talk) 00:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I believe that 1939 in the name is POV. Xx236 ( talk) 10:57, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Because the Polish POV is Government Delegate's Office at Home,Okręgowa Delegatura Rządu Wilno [2]. Xx236 ( talk) 15:51, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't accept the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and German and Soviet annexations of 1939. The title does. Xx236 ( talk) 16:57, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
6,000,000 Jews were also killed De facto, which deosn't prove that the murder was legal. Xx236 ( talk) 09:46, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
The Polish state existed until it was replaced by the Communist puppet, accepted by superpowers. If the state existed it decided about its administrational division. Xx236 ( talk) 09:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
I would like to create this article. Can anyone provide sources? Appleseed ( Talk) 15:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
On a related topic, there is a pl wiki article that could be used as a basis for List of military facilities of the Soviet Union in Poland.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:00, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Country Poland, Austria - rather Nazi Germany or Germany, Austria Xx236 ( talk) 15:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
A very interesting unit, help is much appreciated. 49th Hutsul Rifle Regiment Tymek ( talk) 17:33, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I found a very useful template that I believe can be put to good use on articles regarding Polish and Central and Eastern European history. User:Russavia/Template:Notpropaganda -- Molobo ( talk) 14:23, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
The article whitewashes Gustav Ucicky. they quietly sabotaged virtually every effort from Berlin to generate Nazi propaganda, making serious dramas Heimkehr (1941) was also honored at the Venice festival. Xx236 ( talk) 16:12, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Should anyone wish to comment, it has been proposed here to move " Tadeusz Kościuszko" to "Thaddeus Kosciuszko." Nihil novi ( talk) 03:36, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Some editors have suggested that due to territorial changes an article about formerly German city should be split into two-one for pre-1945 situation, one article treating the city as entiraly post-1945 creation. I believe such thing could lead to similiar treatment of Wrocław, Gdańsk, Szczecin, being cut into two into Wrocław for post-1945 city and Breslau before 1945. Naturally the outcome of such decision would influence articles about Poland. The discussion is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kaliningrad#Some_more_additions_to_name_K.C3.B6nigsberg
Interested editors are welcomed to share their opinion.-- Molobo ( talk) 18:01, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
What about Wilno/Vilnius, Kassa/Koszyce? Xx236 ( talk) 09:33, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
In a series of almost laughable vandalisms ( [3], [4]) reminescent of this troll, several Polish-Lithuanian articles are being vandalized. Please keep watching the article(s) and revert vandalism if spotted. He has so far vandalized Polish minority in Lithuania and Vilnius district municipality; he is using various IPs meaning it is possible I have not uncovered all of his edits.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:24, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I have translated of the famous/infamous "do not fight the bolsheviks" quote I am wondering if "Soviets" and "bolsheviks" should be capitalised in this quote? Mieciu K ( talk) 21:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
While on the subject of this article, shouldn't it be moved to Soviet invasion of Poland, and the latter to Soviet invasion of Poland (disambiguation)? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Dear WikiProject Poland. I and others under wikiProject:European Union am trying to sort out the European Parliament articles before the June 2009 elections. I have created stub articles for the 13 constituencies in Poland, but I am unsure if they have the correct names. This situation has arisen because the relevant legislation ("The Act of 23 January 2004 on Elections to the European Parliament") doesn't give the constituencies formal names: instead, it gives each of them a number, description, and location of the Constituency Electoral Commission (e.g. "Constituency No 2 - covers the territory of the Kujawsko-Pomorskie Voivodeship, the location of the Constituency Electoral Commission is Bydgoszcz").
There seem to be three commonly-used options as follows:
The articles are currently listed under their voivodeship names (see Template:European_Parliament_constituencies_2004-2009, albeit under the English transliterations, i.e. "Lower Silesian and Opole" instead of "Dolnoslaskie and Opolskie")
So my questions to you are:
Thank you for your assistance in this matter, Kind Regards, Anameofmyveryown ( talk) 21:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I run a bot that adds geographical coordinates to articles that do not already have them, based on cross-referencing Wikipedia dump data with the U.S. government's GEONET Names Server data, applying multiple sanity checks to try to prevent false positives. Recently, it hasn't been doing very well with Polish locations, since they seem to have particularly large numbers of cases where two places in Poland have the same name.
Does anyone have a good source of machine-readable GFDL-compatible geodata for Polish locations? If so, please leave me a note on my talk page. -- The Anome ( talk) 00:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
The article doesn't inform about Polish minority and my editions were removed, Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Vilnius being allegedly a better place for them. That article is based however mostly on 1913 data. Would someone be so kind to contribute adding some 20 century data? Xx236 ( talk) 12:08, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
This may be a stupid question, but I figure I will ask anyway. In with fire and sword, was Helena Kurcewiczówna technically Polish? I only ask because in my English copy, she is identified as Ruthenian. Should her article identify her as Polish? Ostap 01:25, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
I would like to kindly ask your opinion on this view expressed by EconomistBR. He uses pretty strong words (sometimes close to NPA violation) to describe his revert of my map (which I, after explaining my reasons, restored). Still, I am assuming he's doing it in good faith and thus I would like to ask your opinion on the justness of his action (irrespective of the tone he uses, which probably is somewhat less typical than in regular Wikiconversations). Any comment on the sense of keeping or deleting the CIA categories (and a map) are most appreciated in this request for comment. Pundit| utter 21:02, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Just to inform, there is a Request for Move on Talk:Casimir I of Poland. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk) 20:10, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The article informs about a Nazi massacre of 1400-1500 Jews so the title should be rather Tykocin massacre. Xx236 ( talk) 13:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I have mostly finished work on Polish culture during World War II. I will now stub and expand Polish culture in the Interbellum; if you have any suggestions (should the name be changed?) or sources I could use, let me know. Then I plan to work on the 1945-1989 culture, see my comment at Talk:Culture_of_Poland#Culture_in_People.27s_Republic_of_Poland and consider commenting there. Thanks, -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 04:07, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Proszę admina o sprawdzenie zawartości tego usuniętego pliku, czy nie ma tam podanego źródła zdjęcia. Być może problem polegał na złym doborze tagu licencji. A.J. ( talk) 19:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if anyone here knows anything about the grandmother of the worldfamous ballerina Marie Taglioni? She was in fact Polish. Her name was Mariane Sophie Stebnowska (another version of her name was Maria Sofia Stempkosta), and she was an opera singer. She married Christoffer Christian Karsten and became the mother of the Swedish ballerina Sophie Karsten and grandmother of Marie Taglioni. She lived 1753-1848 and was from 1782 employed at the Royal Swedish Opera. There does not seem to be any information about her in Swedish wiki about her past before she arived in Sweden, but perhaps she was known in Poland in the 1770s? Perhaps she deserves her article here on English wiki? There does not seem to be any articles at all about Polish actors or singers from the 18th century here. -- 85.226.235.206 ( talk) 20:36, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
sv:Sophie Stebnowska Xx236 ( talk) 12:33, 29 January 2008 (UTC) Stempkosta isn't Polish, rather Stempkoska or Stempkowska. Xx236 ( talk) 12:39, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I have checked through the Polish Biographical Dictionary; there is no entry under "Karsten" (family name) neither any variant of maiden name (Ste..., Stę...). Picus viridis ( talk) 14:26, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the trouble to look, I have wondered about that, and Swedish wiki says nothing about her life before marriage. Perhaps she can be found somewhere else eventually. I'll make a link of the name in case there is ever made an article of it. -- Aciram ( talk) 15:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I would like to request this article to fill in a red link in {{ Postalhistorybycountry}}. Editor(s) who could DYK it would certainly be eligible for an award. Any takers? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 06:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Should they be merged? {{ Polish elections}} and {{ Elections in Poland}}. Perhaps we could split them into historical (pre-89) and modern (post-89)? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Falanga didn't exist during WWII, neither did the ONR. Xx236 ( talk) 15:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Please correct the template. It misinforms. Xx236 ( talk) 09:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I have removed Falanga and ONR. If I'm wrong - please correct. Xx236 ( talk) 07:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I am thinking about restarting Polish Collaboration of the Month. Would anybody be interested in this?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 06:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I am planning a series of articles about pre-1939 Polish fortifications, both in the east and the west. I started with the Sarny Fortified Area, and help is welcome. Perhaps somebody could make the Category Polish Interbellum Fortifications? Tymek ( talk) 20:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm writing a program which automatially generates IPA phonetic representation for Polish words, for use in articles on towns, people etc. If anyone considers themselves knowledgeable on this matter, I'd be grateful if you could have a look at the examples at this user page and let me know if you think there are any errors creeping in. Thanks, -- Kotniski ( talk) 13:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Further to this, I'm also building a couple of templates which may prove useful ({{ IPA-pl}} and {{ Audio-IPA-pl}}). I left a note about them at Template talk:IPA.-- Kotniski ( talk) 15:13, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Ukrainian chauvinists are at it again, turning Polish mathematician Stefan Banach into a Ukrainian. Nihil novi ( talk) 08:15, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Ukrainian chauvinists? Lets see, you have a single anonymous IP address from the US and you are now talking about Ukrainian chauvinists? Of course Banach is Polish. Please lose the anti-Ukrainian sentiment, or at least learn to conceal it better. Ostap 00:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
In case anyone has pertinent information to introduce on the subject, at " Frédéric Chopin" User:Mrglass123 has changed the composer from "Polish" to "Polish-French," citing Encyclopaedia Britannica and an alleged French passport. (This is very much at variance with the view of the Polish Wikipedia.) Nihil novi ( talk) 12:28, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
The party has now moved (for now) from Marshal Piłsudski's to Fryderyk's, with (who else?) our friend Daniel in attendance! Much fun to be had! All are invited. Nihil novi ( talk) 16:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
The government of Belarus doesn't respect the constitution. AN article about the constitution should inform about it. The same all Soviet/Communist constitutions. A constitution isn't a fiction book to be described because of the quality of the text. Xx236 ( talk) 14:33, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
My I ask you not adress me here? I don't like you. Xx236 ( talk) 14:41, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
1936 Soviet Constitution was one of the most liberal in the world. That doesn't mean Soviet Union was. Nonetheless remember that article's have their scops and government's violations should not be discussed extensively in articles about their constitutions.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
As I studied Law I can say saomething about constitiutions in general: Constitiutions of non-democratic countries at first glance may seem as liberal as the constitiutions of democratic countries. They differ in two major points:
New stub has been created: {{ Poland-artist-stub}}.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Yet another fascinating subject from interbellum Poland. As I am not an expert in this field, help is appreciated, look at Gwiazda Polski. Tymek ( talk) 19:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
You may be interested in leaving your thoughts on the notability of this Poland-related article at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marika Michalowska. Thank you.-- h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 19:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi.
There appear to be several users with an anti-German slant who are trying to tint a large number of articles in this way. See for example the edit histories of Former eastern territories of Germany and Expulsion of Germans after World War II, especially user Molobo's edits. Most of his changes introduce vocabulary with an anti-German bias and an unbalanced presentation that paints German actions intentionally "evil". (You will also notice my own edits where I try to undo some of that, without much success as Molobo undoes my undos). I don't want to start an edit war with this person, but rather hope that a majority of users will help watch him so that he doesn't have a chance of spreading his POV. I've also notified the German users notice board here where there was a discussion about this problem earlier. Everyone is invited to continue the discussion there.
Note that I'm not trying to push an anti-Polish POV in return. If someone wanted to introduce one, I'd try to stop that too. I believe wikipedia should not judge historical conflicts at all, neither expressively nor subtly. I hope wikipedia authors can achieve this by working together across nations. The German-Polish conficts are in the past and we don't need to fight them here once again. Anorak2 ( talk) 08:45, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I guess reality just seems to have a pro-Polish bias. That's really too bad. Ostap 19:57, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I don't think it was unfortunate, it was just a humorous answer to unreasonable accusations. Space Cadet ( talk) 18:28, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
AK is on GA review. Changes have been requested here. Please help improve the article; if there are no editors willing to invest their time, this important article will lose its GA status.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Is there anyone with a good accent and access to appropriate recording ware who would feel like recording the Polish names of the voivodeships (województwo świętokrzyskie and so on) for upload? I mean in 16 separate .ogg files, of course.-- Kotniski ( talk) 14:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading Image:Pawiak.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged.
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The traveling circus has now chosen Czeslaw Milosz, who according to one gentleman, was a Lithuanian poet of Polish culture (what a nonsense, never heard of such a phrase). Tymek ( talk) 20:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Everybody loves a good traveling circus. They are usually quite entertaining. Ostap 00:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Britannica, which I think is sort of an authority, calls him (Milosz) a Polish-American. Ostap 03:45, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Has anyone factored into the question of Józef Piłsudski's and Czesław Miłosz's " Lithuaniannness," sheer human perversity? When an individual wishes for some reason to set himself apart from his fellows—particularly if he is upset with them—he will sometimes advert to his (at times, merely supposed) foreign background. Among Germans, Friedrich Nietzsche famously did this, in claiming Polish origin: see " Friedrich Nietzsche" and " Radwan coat of arms." In Miłosz's case, the claim of Lithuanianness partly also involved a desire to emulate his compatriot and fellow-poet Adam Mickiewicz (to whom Miłosz devoted a course at Berkeley). Nihil novi ( talk) 07:24, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Miłosz isn't beloved among Radio Maryja followers. Some of them manifested against his burial in Skałka. He wrote Polish, not Lithuanian, and preferred Kraków, but there is also a number of his pro-Lithuanian statements. A comparison of the Polish Wikipedia article and the English one is helpful. Xx236 ( talk) 07:44, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
A Wikipedia Gem has been found by me. [25]
Among other things-number of Catholics increased by annexation of Western Ukraine in 1939 :) Was Bialystok Western Ukraine ? ;] Another example : In the 1920s, genuine cultural concessions were granted to the nationalities. Communist elites of various nationalities were permitted to flourish and to have considerable self-government.
Almost no information on discrimination of Catholics in Soviet Union.
Naturally there is no single word on Polish catholics in Soviet Union which I presume were among the largest number of Roman Catholics in SU after 1939. Before the war, in Soviet held Ukraine circa 500.000 Poles lived and there is a considerable number of sources recording discrimination against religious activity.
In short, the article needs serious NPOV. I hope people will help.
-- Molobo ( talk) 02:47, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
There is an opinion that such name were incorrect. University of Königsberg and University of Wrocław are labelled as Defunct universities and colleges in Germany. Either both categories are wrong or both are right. Xx236 ( talk) 07:33, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Lemberg was also in Austria. And for a time, Lvov was in Russia. So what? That it makes no sense is not a POV. The name of the category is Defunct universities and colleges in Poland . Like it or not, Lviv is NOT in Poland, therefore it makes as much sense to be in this category as "Defunct universities and colleges in New Zealand" another country Lviv is NOT in. I don't know what you mean about the "be bold" stuff. Ostap 18:08, 11 March 2008 (UTC) You want me to do something: Go ahead and remove the Polish universities from the German category also. It's a standard answer in such situations. Xx236 ( talk) 12:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Xx236 ( talk) 12:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC) Xx236 ( talk) 12:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
The dominant trade is in grain and seeds. I have visited the town but no grain found. Xx236 ( talk) 12:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
I nominated the image to the right at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates . Beware ofdog 19:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I just found this poster and I wondered if SPD demanded 1914 post-war ? I did heard that organisations of transfered Germans did make such claims but from the looks of this SPD did also ? [26] -- Molobo ( talk) 21:29, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
That is very unlikely. Where did you get this poster? Ubudoda ( talk) 02:15, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Article suggest that Valaška (pl:Ciupaga) belongs to Slovak culture only, please correct that. 13:48, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Other than this fascinating article needs expansion, I've noted some errors and confusing items on the accompanying template at Talk:Polish_Secret_State#Not_totally_inclusive. Comments appreciated (I suggest commenting at the linked article's talk page, not here.)! -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:53, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Could someone please reference the Górki set index article? It is currently a dump of Polish place names, and it was attempted to be overridden with a redirect to Gorki without preserving much from the current list. I'd hate to lose a what is a potentially useful list just because it is in a sorry state. Thanks.— Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • ( yo?); 15:42, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
is again being retroactively granted variously Ukrainian, or dual Polish and Ukrainian, nationality. Nihil novi ( talk) 07:27, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
If anyone feels in the mood for an edit war or two (or possibly trying to reason politely with this guy), check out his recent contributions, pushing what he regards as "established English names" for Polish cities.-- Kotniski ( talk) 21:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I know in many aspects the different editors from West Slavic nations have not seen eye to eye, and the community has suffered due to childish naming disputes that usually deteriorate into edit wars. That's why, in the interest of common West Slavic participation on Wikipedia I have proposed a West Slavic WikiProject, that would aim and try to bridge the gaps between us and strive for fair representation of West Slavic interests, be they Polish, Czech, Slovak or Sorbian on the English Wikipedia, as well as effective multilateral debates on a multitude of contentious articles. So, just have a look and voice your support if you want. + Hexagon1 ( t) 23:52, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Since it falls within the purview of this WikiProject, I thought I should advise of a new debate to move the article about Sněžka-Śnieżka. As participants in the associated project with the great interest and knowledge in the specific political and cultural ramifications of this Czech/Polish mountain debate, your views would be especially welcome. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 05:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
OTRS is in need of Polish-speaking volunteers, specifically for handling the backlog of image permissions tickets. Volunteers must be at least 16 years old (and be willing to provide proof of identity), courteous, skilled at resolving disputes, friendly even in the face of hostility, sensitive to the needs of those outside Wikipedia, and have exemplary discretion. Interested parties should apply at m:OTRS/volunteering. Thanks. howcheng { chat} 17:42, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I should like to inform the honourable editors of the Poland-related notice board that I am seriously considering moving Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, a featured article, in order to replace the hyphen in this state's name with an en dash. If you wish to comment, please do so in the relevant thread here. I have also notified the Baltic States notice board. Waltham, The Duke of 23:28, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
A newly created article on Median Europe is proposed for deletion - comments appreciated. Pundit| utter 14:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Should foray be moved to zajazd? Please comment at Talk:Foray.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:48, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Alojzy Ehrlich, legendary Polish-Jewish table tennis player, more info about this personality is welcome. Tymek ( talk) 18:29, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
his sermons, interwove spiritual exhortations with political messages - I don't like the phrase, Popiełuszko wasn't a politician. I have also removed the CIA reference from the text, because Popiełuszko wasn't a CIA tool. Xx236 ( talk) 12:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
The current RFE/RL article is very general. Xx236 ( talk) 14:03, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
I just did a re-write of Congress Poland, could someone have a proof-read? I added no references or text, just took what was there and improved the English, and given my lack of knowledge of Polish history it's possible I made errors in chronology or cast. Thanks, WLU ( talk) 14:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Seems very marginal idea or a hoax. Anyway if somebody wants to comment : It was once proposed that the Duke be made King of Poland, in a move to restore the Polish monarchy much as the Greek monarchy had been restored using imported Royals. In August 1937, the Duke and his wife visited Poland and were well-received. However, due to the invasion of Poland in World War II, the plan was called off.
Supposedly from Picknett, Prince, Prior & Brydon, pp. 142–143. -- Molobo ( talk) 10:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
There is an interesting post by Gene here. Please comment on whether you think that in English language, Wańkowicz should come before or after (for excample) Lewis W. Wannamaker. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
A third part of this set ( Image:Mundurwl6.jpg, Image:Oficer_Marynarka.jpg) for Polish airman) was deleted long time ago and cannot be restored, perhaps somebody could find it and reupload it? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
For those with a geographic bent: " Template:Age of Enlightenment" now places Poland in Eastern rather than Central Europe (apparently in deference to Cold Warriors' bipolar preferences). See also " Template talk:Age of Enlightenment." Germany (" Holy Roman Empire") is in Central Europe, according to this template, Poland is in Eastern. Nihil novi ( talk) 02:34, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, this is childlish, but at the same time annoying. User Lokyz keeps deleting Polish names of such places as Varena and Lentvaris, yet at the same time he insists on keeping a Lithuanian name of Sejny. Double standards, isn't it? My opinion is simple - keep Lithuanian names of Augustow, Sejny or Suwalki (even Bialystok), but also keep Polish names of places as Varena. I am awaiting your opinion. Tymek ( talk) 16:41, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
A new naming convention for places in Slovakia is being discussed at User_talk:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian_experiment#Proposed_naming_convention. Your input will be greatly appreciated. Since these new rules might be later regarded as a precedent by non-involved editors (remember the Danzig/Gdansk case?), I think you will find this ongoing discussion and poll interesting. Tankred ( talk) 03:03, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Please see: Battle of Kostiuchnówka and also relevant to Poland: Forced labor in Germany during World War II and Minority Treaties. They were all submitted to WP:GA recently and reviewers have posted comments on talk. Help addressing the comments/issues pointed out is much needed! -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 03:19, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Is such language allowed in this Wikipedia? It's about November Uprising and January Uprising in Lithuania: Oh, and don't forget the five pub fights, an insult about the Tzar's favourite horse, and the shooting of a Russian Partridge in a Lithuanian Pear Tree! Xx236 ( talk) 15:24, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Who said it? Space Cadet ( talk) 15:29, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
I quote this not as a personal, but ideological problem. I believe that such language is unacceptable and the nationality/name of the author doesn't change anything. Xx236 ( talk) 13:17, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I think we should split List of Poles into many lists. The list is too big. I would like to know what other users think. Masterpiece2000 ( talk) 03:01, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Believe it or not, there are countries (including "allies" of Poland) where many people disparage Poles and Poland. It helps to have a list of prominent Poles to which the ignorant can be directed, where they will discover that Poland actually has made some contributions to world science and culture. As Poeticbent points out, there is a List of Czechs, List of French people, List of Greeks, List of Hungarians, List of Italians, etc. Why should there not be a central List of Poles? The List of Poles, in fact, is superior to the ones named above, because it is illustrated.
Certainly, set up specific individual lists as well, for those seeking more focused or more complete information. But why delete an article that is useful and that is not yet truly unwieldy? Nihil novi ( talk) 04:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
I have expanded the Huta Pieniacka massacre article, input of all contributors is welcomed. Tymek ( talk) 17:59, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Stefan Banach is now described by an anonymous editor, in the article lead, as "an eminent European Ukrainian mathematician... a founder... of the Lwów School of Mathematics at Ivan Franko Lviv National Ukrainian University..." Help! Nihil novi ( talk) 07:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
http://www.rp.pl/artykul/124647.html
When exatly was Vilnius ethnically Lithuanian, if 60% is the highest number in history? Xx236 ( talk) 14:46, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Obviously not, the city used to be Lithuanian-Ruthenian. Xx236 ( talk) 06:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I was illustrating a different article and found this image. Since Polish Wedding is an article about a movie and I could not decide for which of Polish culture and Polish folk related articles is best to use it, I am bringing it here. Perhaps someone will start an article about Polish wedding traditions one day. Happy edits, -- Irpen 20:56, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I have created Category:WikiProject Poland participants. Feel free to add this category on your user page. Masterpiece2000 ( talk) 10:00, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Can someone take over at Stefan Banach? I've already passed my daily quota of reverts. (I've also asked for a block or semi-protection at AN/I and requests for protection.)-- Kotniski ( talk) 11:24, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Give your support or opposition at the Central Europe talk page, since we are looking for a single definition for it.
This issue is related to Poland since it determines where it is located in Europe. ⇨ EconomistBR ⇦ Talk 17:18, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you all that participated and gave their opinion on Proposal II.
Proposal II was approved, 13 editors supported it and 5 editors opposed it. Proposal II is now in effect and it redefined Central Europe. ⇨ EconomistBR ⇦ Talk 23:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
It appears that Proposal II for the definition of " Central Europe" has been adopted. If so, how would this best be implemented on sites such as " Template:Age of Enlightenment," where Poland still appears in the section on "Eastern Europe"? Nihil novi ( talk) 17:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Minor issue: please comment on which layout is better (and help expand the list).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:19, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I added the following subsection to the article on The Black Madonna of Czestochowa. As unbelievable as it may seem its all true. Might be cool for "Did you know", right?
In Vodou, it is believed that a common depiction of Erzulie has its roots in copies of the icon of the Black Madonna of Częstochowa, brought to Haiti by Polish soldiers fighting on both sides of the Haitian Revolution from 1802 onwards. [1] In her Petro nation aspect as Erzulie Dantor she is often depicted as a scarred and buxom woman, holding a child protectively in one hand and a knife in the other. She is a warrior and particularly a fierce protector of women and children. In Santeria, this image is referred to as Santa Barbara Africana. -- Orestek ( talk) 17:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
For anyone who is interested, the same anonymous contributor is again giving his interpretation of Stefan Banach's life and work. Nihil novi ( talk) 08:42, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I have removed Translations paragraph because it contained only Ukrainian ones. Either many languaguages or none. Xx236 ( talk) 09:19, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
More opinions needed: see MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist/Archives/2008/04#komendant.cal.pl. If you agree with me that the case should be reopened, please start a new reqiest at MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'm trying to compile a list of notable references to support a Wikipedia article concerning a video editor. Two I have are in Polish - if there are any Polish speakers that could help by reading the articles this would be appreciated. The articles are here: Clesh#References If you believe from each article the video editor is notable please leave some form of brief comment about each article in the form of a summary above the document in link in the references section (as has been done with the other documents in there). Many thanks, mk ( talk) 21:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
An example: If you wish to play more mind games with this outrageous ... bias, go for it, and you will get a tsunami of references to ...
For me such stament is a blackmail - if you write about it, we (?) will write about other subjects, you won't like. Or maybe a conspiracy - let's not discuss our subjects. Bot are rather organized crime activities than editing. Xx236 ( talk) 07:58, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I've proposed Bili Sarny detention centre for deletion at Afd here. At present this seems to be an invention of a Ukrainian nationalist website, though if anyone has any real information about the existence or non-existence of the place it would be welcome.-- Kotniski ( talk) 09:10, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
From the new article on Fear - Anti-Semitism in Poland after Auschwitz: "The ongoing difficulty many Poles continue to have in confronting the facts of Polish wartime and post war violence against Polish Jews is witnessed daily in the attacks on wikipedia pages discussing the pogroms and murders of Jews carried out by Poles.". Lovely, isn't it? The book is notable, but the article needs some major rewriting to move away from rant style :> -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I believe that this Wikipedia isn't a forum for posting jokes. How to stop such a thread and remove unrelated comments? Xx236 ( talk) 09:05, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Expulsion of Germans after World War II Xx236 ( talk) 07:32, 6 May 2008 (UTC) I haven't succeeded. Xx236 ( talk) 06:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
A couple of years ago I spent hours adding in diacritics to links of Polish cities. Now I see the lack of accents problem is back in a big way. May I please, please remind people (and I really shouldn't be the one doing this): it's Toruń not Torun, Poznań not Poznan, Wrocław not Wroclaw, Łódź not Lodz, and on and on. Thank you. Biruitorul ( talk) 14:28, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Should List of mayors of Gdańsk be split off from List of mayors of Danzig, as was recently done? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:49, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
This category needs to be populated, I guess... -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 04:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
[27] Should events taken place in Toruń be known by the Germanised name version of the city ?
Your choice.-- Molobo ( talk) 14:37, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
So far none have been presented.-- Molobo ( talk) 15:32, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
See my proposal [28] -- Molobo ( talk) 14:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
User Matthead proposed to delete name Karkonosze and replace it with translation of German term Risenberge-Giant Mountains. Vote is under way. You are free to place your opinion: [29] -- Molobo ( talk) 23:58, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Since user Matthead insists on calling Fryderyk Scherfke and Ernest Wilimowski victims of explusion, I am awaiting opinions of editors on this subject - see here [30]. Both Wilimowski and Scherfke were drafted into the Wehrmacht and ended up in western Germany in 1945. Nobody expelled them from Katowice and Poznan. Tymek ( talk) 19:18, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Dukes of Pomerania Radomil talk 17:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Why do Poles drive around in the daytime with their headlights on? Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 08:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC) (currently in Gdansk)
Not only Poles, a number of nations in the EU. Daytime running lamp needs help. Xx236 ( talk) 09:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Really? How amazing. I've been to ten other European countries and I've never seen it before. What purpose does it serve, other than dazzling oncoming drivers? In Australia you'd probably be stopped by the police and told to turn them off. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 16:12, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
In CA and NY it's the law. Space Cadet ( talk) 17:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Speaking as a Gdansk pedestrian, I can tell you it does no such thing. It just adds to the general visual overload of city traffic. (Plus of course they are all driving on the wrong side of the road, hence I have been nearly run over three times today.) Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 17:42, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
OK, we won't pursue this topic :)
On a more important question: I have now been to Szczecin and Gdansk, walking around with old German street maps looking for interesting old buildings (my hobby). Later I will go to Wroclaw as well. It seems to me that Gdansk has done a much more thorough job of removing all relics of German Danzig than Szczecin has done of removing all relics of German Stettin. Is this correct? Is this because Stettin was a German city longer than Danzig was? It is because Poles feel more patriotic about Gdansk than about Szczecin? (Nevertheless I did find a few German inscriptions in Gdansk, such as on the old Polizei Praesidium building.) Also, please see the question about Gdansk I have asked at Talk:Gdansk, which no-one has tried to answer yet. Djenkuye. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 14:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes indeed. I am going to do a "Germany's lost cities" section of my website when I get home. Yesterday I went to KZ Stutthof. Now I am sitting in Olsztyn for two hours (thanks to Polish railways) on my way to see the Wolf's Lair. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 15:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, yes, but the decision to rebuild the Gdansk Old Town as it was before 1772 rather than as it was in 1939 was taken immediately after the war, long before tourism was a consideration. This was a political decision, to erase 160 years of German history from the city, or at least from its historic heart. Stettin was a much more German city than Danzig, so its German heritage was harder to erase. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 16:10, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for those comments, which confirm what I thought about the special place of Gdansk as compared to other cities which became Polish in 1945. I will be in Wroclaw in about two weeks. Thanks to the Polish railways, I had an unexpected night in Olsztyn / Allenstein and found a number of obviously German-built buildings there. It is obvious that this part of Poland (formerly East Prussia) is doing well out of German tourism and there are German signs all over the place, such as on cemeteries where Germans go to look for family graves. Yesterday I was at Ketrzyn / Rastenburg and was very impressed by the presentation of the Wolfsschanze site. It was well worth standing for five hours in a packed and very late train! Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 11:30, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I have created {{ Polish diaspora}} template. Please add any further or new articles to the list. - Darwinek ( talk) 10:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
For those who may have missed it, voting continues on User Meathead's proposal to move the article on the " Karkonosze" Mountains to the more generic title, "Great Mountains," and on User Molobo's counter-proposal to move " Karkonosze" to "Karkonosze/Krkonoše." You may vote at [31]. Nihil novi ( talk) 04:38, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Otolemur crassicaudatus has requested that a plot summary be added to the article on Pharaoh (the film). I have not seen the entire movie and therefore do not feel competent to do it. Any takers? Nihil novi ( talk) 05:06, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Also the template "WikiProject Poland" could be added by a member. Squash Racket ( talk) 04:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone direct me to an online map of central Warsaw with the street names as they were during the communist era? (I visited the Palace of Culture today. It is not nearly as ugly as I had expected. The statues of the handsome proletarians are rather cute :) ) Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 16:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
pl:Zmiany nazw ulic i placów w Warszawie, tables inform about changes, if you prefer maps, see Trasbus link. Xx236 ( talk) 10:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for that. So Warsaw never had Ul Marksa, Lenina, Stalina, Oktobera Revolutsia, Rosa Luksemburga, Boleslava Bieruta etc etc? That's very surprising. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 16:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Plac Defilad was to be allegedly Plac Stalina, but Stalin died. Xx236 ( talk) 06:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm surprised there has never been a Rosa Luxemburg street in Warsaw. There are several in Germany, but she was born in Poland after all. On the other hand she was Jewish... Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 10:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
There was a big RL Factory there. Soviet opinion about RL was changing, RL not always being orthodox. She acted in Germany, so she wasn't a Polish revolutionary. Xx236 ( talk) 10:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Today I am in Poznan. Everywhere people are flying the red-and-white Polish colours, the yellow-and-white, which I assume is the Papal flag, and the pale-blue-and-white. What is this? Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 18:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes I have seen that flag, but the one people are flying from their apartments is a plain pale-blue-and-white bi-colour, and not that shade of blue. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 19:21, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
It would have to be tomorrow morning. I'm on a lunch-time train to Wroclaw. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 20:00, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, the big Polish wikipedian gathering is just finishing in Rabka ( [33]).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:05, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
And it will have to be conducted in English, since my Polish vocabulary has expanded from nil to about six words since I have been here. I'm staying at the Polonez. You're welcome to join me for morning tea. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 20:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
For Kotniski. I'll be in Warsaw probably in August, so we can meet. If you'd be near Silesia we can always meet in Cieszyn. - Darwinek ( talk) 20:19, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
The cafe is on floor A (between 1 and 2). How does 10.30 suit you? Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 20:21, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I'll be the guy in black reading a big book about World War II. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 20:33, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm leaving Poznań on 10:15 and I'll be back after 17:00, so not this time... Radomil talk 20:54, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Within WikiProject Companies I am trying to establish guidelines for all Lists of companies by country, the implementation of which would hopefully ensure a minimum quality standard and level of consistency across all of these related but currently disparate articles. The ultimate goal is the improvement of these articles to Featured List status. As a WikiProject that currently has one of these lists within your scope, I would really appreciate your feedback! You can find the draft guidelines here. Thanks for your help as we look to build consensus and improve Wikipedia! - Richc80 ( talk) 13:54, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists of basic topics/Draft/List of basic Poland topics.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:33, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Why is Italy called "Włochy" in Polish? What is the derivation of this word? Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 20:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC) (now in Krakow)
Thanks for that. Italy is nowhere near Wallachia, but applying the w/g rule gives Gallachia, suggesting that the Poles (as Slavs) saw Italy as part of the Latin or Gallic world, related to the French (although the French use "Galles" to refer to Celts, not Latins). I suppose that makes sense. I still can't find out why the Czechs call Austria "Rakousko". Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 05:23, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Today I leave Poland after three very enjoyable weeks and far too many pirogi. Jenkuye to all. Intelligent Mr Toad ( talk) 05:23, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Lately I was busy moving some of the images from Category:Pre-1994 Poland images to Commons. It seems like the remaining 100 images left do not have any sources to support their claim that they were published in Poland in years 1926-1994, since all that had it are already moved. I would propose changing them to FairUse template and to retire PD-Polish template. -- Jarekt ( talk) 03:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello! I'm interested in witch trials, and think that every country should be represented in the subject. As for Poland, it's hard to find anything about this on the net. If there is anyone here interested in the subject, I think it would be most interesting to have a Polish with trial represented here on wikipedia. Most countrys are alredy represented. I have heard about only two cases; two old women burned in 1793, and Barbara Zdunk, executed in 1811. These where mentioned on the net with very few words. Does anyone here know more about these cases? or any other? I would be grateful just for a stub or a name to google. -- Aciram ( talk) 11:28, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello,
In recent days I've made a new template on polish Wikipedia for linking to articles published by culture.pl service ( pl:szablon:culture). This is rich and interesting source on polish culture and the articles there are also available in few other languages including english, so I thought you may be interested in creating english version of the template (probably as "template:culture.pl") and using it in appropriate places. -- kocio ( talk) 15:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Jak to jest po polsku - bo nie ma interwiki do pl wikipedii? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 15:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
User Irpen claims Russia fought at the Battle of Grunwald [37]. Last time I heard this was during Soviet occupation and I recall it was widely fabricated myth by Soviet propaganda. Can anybody look into this. Wikipedia should be free from Soviet propaganda in my personal view. Although it can mentioned how Soviet histography tried to present Russians as leading the battle. -- Molobo ( talk) 00:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
-- Molobo ( talk) 01:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, I was amazed by this being a surprise and thought for a moment that verifying of this info indeed requires a visit to the library for some out of print book or something. But apparently, the most recent book specifically devoted to the subject (by Turnbull, "Tannenberg 1410: Disaster for the Teutonic Knights", ISBN 9781841765617, published by Osprey) says right on its cover:
So much of Soviet propaganda, HTH, -- Irpen 01:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
A usual Western generalisation towards Ruthanians under Lithuanian vassalisation. Anyway care to explain why the text where nothing is about Novgorod was used by you to source claim that Novgorod took place in the battle ? I see nothing of the sorts in the text provided. As to Ruthanians-no doubt some were in Polish-Lithuanian army just like Hungarians and Bohemians-yet we do not name Czech Republic or Hungary as part of the battle.-- Molobo ( talk) 01:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Molobo, I did not quote the source (chronicle) in the article. When I do, I always note the intermediate source, if there is any, in the references section. This was a talk page discussion. I gave the name of the secondary source, a book, above. You now argue with Posilge? Good luck. Now, I am happy to hear about your teachers. Unfortunately, to this date you refused to name books you read on the subject. I asked you before and received no answer. Anyway, this is a moot point. Removal of sourced info, spinning it in various ways and trying to recruit editors for the edit war is what concerns me most in your actions. -- Irpen 01:37, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Removing false information, removing sources that say nothing about what they should source and asking fellow editors to improve the article is nothing to be concerned about. Using documents from 1418 as base for Wikipedia articles is of course something to worry about, as is usage of XIX century history books published in Imperial Russia as source for Wikipedia articles.-- Molobo ( talk) 01:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Guys, this is not a place for this discussion. Please take it to Talk:Battle of Grunwald.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 15:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
What is to be done when misguided, misinformed editors persist in nonsensical ventures such as trying to turn Józef Piłsudski into a Lithuanian, Stefan Banach into a Ukrainian, Fryderyk Chopin and Maria Skłodowska-Curie into French people, and Nicolaus Copernicus into a German — and find ready audiences of equally misinformed readers? Nihil novi ( talk) 00:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
You might be interested in this afd. Renata ( talk) 14:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I have read about withdrawing Polish units in 1939 being ambushed by Ukrainian insurgents (possibly Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists) does anybody know how widespread and notable those attacks were? Should we add OUN to the Soviet invasion of Poland (1939) Military Conflict Infobox? Mieciu K ( talk) 09:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Mateusz Sołtanowicz (no google/gprint hits), Piotr Sołtanowicz ( few google/no gprint hits), Józef Sołtanowicz (no hits), Jan Sołtanowicz ( few google hits/no gphits), Bolesław Sołtanowicz ( similar). What do you think? All work of a single User:Potocki, who has created little else. I'd think at least the poets would get some gprint hits... -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 14:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
I have expanded Polish culture during World War II and nominated it for Wikipedia:Featured article status. Please take a minute to read the article and comment in the promotion vote. Please help address the issues as they come up, I may not have time to address them all myself. The article has a large amount of red links; please help translate missing articles from pl wikipedia.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Please help address points raised by the reviewers. The article has a large amount of red links; please help translate missing articles from pl wikipedia. Thank you, -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
There are discussions going on about what should be the guidelines on the use or non-use of diacritics in foreign words. It started with an attempt to remove diacritics from the names of tennis players; there is now a proposal on clarifying the guidelines to approve the use of diacritics in general - see WP:UD for the proposal and WT:UD for the discussion. -- Kotniski ( talk) 08:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
We need to move some to subcategory peace treaties, and they in turn need to be divided into proper peace treaties and armistices. Volunteers to do this? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Polish-Muscovite War (1605–1618) has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.-- Berkunt ( talk) 04:05, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
The humoruous essay at meta:Poles are evil, that has survived for years, is in dire danger from the new generation of righteous politically correct people who want to prove Poles are not evil. Consider commenting.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:58, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
What is happening with this user? Is there any way we others can express our disapproval of the block? Ostap 02:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
It's your POV that Molobo is right-wing. The same he is left-wing. Your opinion about Kaczyński government is your POV, don't do your propaganda here. Xx236 ( talk) 11:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
I think the statute of limitations should apply here. If after having been banned for a year, Molobo came back, behaved himself for a year or so, misbehaved again, banned for 24 hours, then for a week - then the next logical step should be a month, three months, a year ... . Not banned indefinitely out of the blue, because someone dug out old bones from the closet. Besides, permban is for fraud and sockpuppetry, not for minor misdemeanors as 3RRs. Go to the Fear: Anti-Semitism in Poland after Auschwitz article and you'll find out some guys with trendy POV got away with even 10RR and countless other violations. And this is not my POV speaking. On the issue of the Kaczyński twins I am with User Thorsten1. These clowns made from Poland a laughingstock throughout European Union. Can't understand why 10 million Polish-Americans are still with them. But that's probably American propaganda at work thanks to our media. When an American goes to Europe, every European keeps telling him that he's been brainwashed. And guess what, I didn't believe that several years ago yet, but now I think they might be right. greg park avenue ( talk) 23:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Thorsten: the first 3RR consisted in fact of three reverts and one move. I'd happily see Molobo and his opponents (it takes more than one to go over 3RR...) on 1RR restriction, for example. They should all learn to create more constructive content, and war less.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Reading the above discussion, the impression I get is that 3RR has been used as a specimen charge, in order to block someone who certain admins feel probably ought to be blocked, though they can't quite justify why. In fact that's the second time I've seen that happen recently. In neither case do I shed any tears over the blockee, but is that really the inteded purpose of 3RR? It seems at best a lazy way of going about things.-- Kotniski ( talk) 16:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
See here. Comments appreciated. Also related: Talk:Regions of Poland, Talk:Administrative division of Polish territories after partitions. Next, we will probably hear an argument that there was no Poland at al :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Piotrus, your opinion that PLC and Poland is one and the same is noted. I hope you will not replace Poland by Commonwealth from now on in articles about the Polish westwards aggressions or anti-Polish uprisings of oppressed population, like for example here. Whenever Poland was a perpetrator, you removed Poland and replaced it by Commonwealth. I am glad to hear that you changed your mind. -- Irpen 18:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
If PLC wasn't Poląnd why do we have Polish-Muscovite war? Xx236 ( talk) 08:22, 24 June 2008 (UTC)