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It got messy and stalled because new images came along midway. Can we try again?
Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 09:21, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Thread started at the Village Pump here to discuss the use of cosplay images in character articles. postdlf ( talk) 04:21, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
When mentioning the 2012 Avengers film or its sequel, do we want to say "Marvel's The Avengers" as here (or at Thanos or Ultron), or should the title just be "The Avengers"? 50.151.230.203 ( talk) 03:53, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
(copied from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fictional characters#Magical powers by the author)
Summary:
Magical powers redirects to Magic (paranormal) which is about human Anthropology and Religion.
I visited all 11 articles that use the "magical powers" link and changed 7 targets to magic in fiction. Those seven articles about four fictional characters, one novel, one film, and one TV series. All use "magical powers" concerning anthropoid characters with superhuman abilities. I suppose that most of the characters are treated as human within the fiction. It may be reasonable to call them "superhumans" for short.
Some of the superhuman abilities are called paranormal in the context of real human beliefs and practices, ranging form pseudoscience to religion to stage magic. Some are called psionic in science fiction and real contexts, I think. Perhaps editors writing about "magical" characters should consider linking to one of those articles.
At the moment we have 0, 4, more than 100, and 0 articles that link magic powers, magical powers, magical, and magically --all of which redirect to magic (paranormal). My ongoing examination of their use seems to show that they do need disambiguation so I anticipate that all will soon redirect to the disambiguation page Magic.
-- P64 ( talk) 19:28, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
I've put up the article for Winsor McCay's 1912 animated film How a Mosquito Operates as a Featured Article Candidate. Any and all participation in the nomination page would be enormously helpful. Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 13:36, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
FYI, image:Self-portrait of illustrator Harry V.R. Anderson.jpg has been nominated for deletion and WT:Articles for creation/Harry V.R. Anderson has been rejected for creation. If this comics illustrator is of importance to your project, you may want to rectify the situation with a fair-use rationale for the image, and adding references to the article and moving it to mainspace. -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 01:30, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
If a character has a name change after more than 20 years of appearances under one name, I am questioning if this is the best way to handle it in an article. 50.151.230.203 ( talk) 17:38, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
The navboxes for comics are way too big and difficult to navigate through (which is the point of a navbox). Mainly I see large cast of characters and fictional groups mixed with media. I propose splitting the characters/groups apart from the media so it can be easier to manage and navigate. Lucia Black ( talk) 10:59, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Why exactly are "Other versions" and "In other media" two separate sections in comic book articles, usually? Basically, film and cartoon versions ARE other versions - and usually, the other media has a companion comic book or something. (A strong example would be Smallville Season 11) . Those are the same versions, same continuity etc, but they are actually split in terms of Wikipedia - this could lead to a lot of duplicate information.
Don't exactly want (or care) to change it across Wikipedia, but a discussion on the topic would be nice. Has this been brought up before? || Tako ( bother me) || 18:52, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Is there anyway to add more shortcuts to that page? I was looking for it, and typed MOS:COMICS and was surprised that didn't take me to it. I know for other MOS pages, like film, using MOS:FILM takes you to the MOS page for film. Or even MOS:COMIC would be fine. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 04:46, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I have suggested a new one here: Template talk:WikiProject Comics - Christian75 ( talk) 21:12, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
This article still needs improvements. -- George Ho ( talk) 16:49, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
I respectfully propose a new workgroup: Tintin. I am new to the WikiProject Comics but not new to Wikipedia Tintin articles and Franco-Belgian comics articles, which I have been editing in collaboration with other fine editors for a few years. The long-range plan is Featured Topic Tintin containing multiple Featured Articles, including the main article, the list articles, the book articles, and the character articles. Perhaps by formalising a workgroup, more qualified editors can join in. I humbly request your suggestions and support. —Prhartcom (talk) 14:30, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Is it appropriate to mention in the article's lead that James Spader will portray Ultron in the next Avengers film? 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 15:10, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Interested parties can see Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Whaam!/archive2#Whammy_on_the_Whaam.21_50th_anniversary_drive.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:14, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
The WP:TFAR nomination for Whaam! is now open at Wikipedia:Today's_featured_article/requests#Whaam.21 to celebrate the 50th anniversary of its first exhibition. I presume that after nearly 700KB of discussions some people may be interested in this nomination.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:43, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
I've put up Little Nemo (1911 film) as a Featured Article canditate, and would appreciate any and all feedback on the article. Please join in the discussion at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Little Nemo (1911 film)/archive1. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 07:51, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Does anybody think Giant-Size X-Men should be moved to Giant-Size X-Men 1, per WP:PRECISION? I haven't been able to find many WP pages created for single issues, so I'm unsure. This isn't really a "series", per se — two one-shots in 1975, two 30 years later. Much of the material in all four issues are reprints. It's only Giant-Size #1 that's really significant and notable, not the other three. Woodshed ( talk) 09:34, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
You might be interested in this list, as it includes multimedia franchises with comic book components. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:51, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Feel free to comment at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Okay Hot-Shot, Okay!-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:16, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Punisher appears in the current Thunderbolts title as a member of the team; is it appropriate to mention this in the infobox [1]? 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 17:53, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
Expert opinions are needed regarding the notability of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Powr Mastrs and the suitability of the sources listed. Please use add {{afc comment|1=Your comment here}} to provide your feedback. Thanks. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 03:36, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone have (or can get) a photo of Françoise Mouly they'd like to share (for her article)? I'd rather not resort to a Fair Use image if I can avoid it. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 06:40, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Every time i even "attempt" to fix or clean up these articles, it gets confusing and gives me a headache. Their all organized completely different and its hard to find some middle ground for them to follow a consistent universal organization. I've been making this MOS for fictional characters for a while. User:Lucia Black/Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Fictional Characters.
Maybe after agreeing with a specific guideline to organize, then maybe the entire project can choose a random high-importance article, and slowly clean up the articles up 1 article at a time as a group effort. I'm not an expert in western comics, so i don't know where to look or how all these comics coexist together or what details to reduce. can someone help? Lucia Black ( talk) 16:27, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Having trouble at Thundra with a user who wants to insist that she is a supervillain without evidence. 50.13.17.59 ( talk) 03:02, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
What is the opinion - does a preview in Marvel Age count as a first appearance, or do we go with the first issue of his series? [2] 50.13.17.59 ( talk) 06:55, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Every time i even "attempt" to fix or clean up these articles, it gets confusing and gives me a headache. Their all organized completely different and its hard to find some middle ground for them to follow a consistent universal organization. I've been making this MOS for fictional characters for a while. User:Lucia Black/Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Fictional Characters.
Maybe after agreeing with a specific guideline to organize, then maybe the entire project can choose a random high-importance article, and slowly clean up the articles up 1 article at a time as a group effort. I'm not an expert in western comics, so i don't know where to look or how all these comics coexist together or what details to reduce. can someone help? Lucia Black ( talk) 16:27, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
What is the opinion - does a preview in Marvel Age count as a first appearance, or do we go with the first issue of his series? [3] 50.13.17.59 ( talk) 06:55, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Having trouble at Thundra with a user who wants to insist that she is a supervillain without evidence. 50.13.17.59 ( talk) 03:02, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Should this in any way be considered a reliable source? [4]
Also, please see my above thread about Thundra. 50.13.17.59 ( talk) 12:14, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm hoping to bring the Comics article to Featured Article status one of these days, and have put a lot of work into researching and polishing it. There's still a lot fo work to do (such as tracking down some references). Is there anyone who could lend a pair of eyes to the article, and help out either by contributing feedback or edits? The article's on the Vital articles list, and really deserves to be done well. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 05:31, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
There is one editor determined to eliminate an article [5] despite the comic book series having reliable sources interviewing those involved in it and giving it plenty of coverage. More attention to this please, I don't want to start an edit war with this person again. Dream Focus 21:08, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
You did not attempt to reason with me DreamFocus. All you did was attack me, you did not attempt to reason with me at all, there was any any discussion at all. I attempt to turn that into a one, Postdlf banned me; real classy. Dream Focus has about 350 reports at AN. And you have not added a fresh opinion at at all, Favre1fan93. And to answer the question, no they don't as they are routine coverage like reviews. Spshu ( talk) 14:29, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
IF you analize it for with it has, not what it is, then yes. but not really. Lucia Black ( talk) 23:05, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Did we ever come to a resolution on whether cosplay pics should be used in character articles? [8] 50.13.17.59 ( talk) 16:31, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Should this in any way be considered a reliable source? [9]
Also, please see my above thread about Thundra. 50.13.17.59 ( talk) 12:14, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm hoping to bring the Comics article to Featured Article status one of these days, and have put a lot of work into researching and polishing it. There's still a lot fo work to do (such as tracking down some references). Is there anyone who could lend a pair of eyes to the article, and help out either by contributing feedback or edits? The article's on the Vital articles list, and really deserves to be done well. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 05:31, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
There is one editor determined to eliminate an article [10] despite the comic book series having reliable sources interviewing those involved in it and giving it plenty of coverage. More attention to this please, I don't want to start an edit war with this person again. Dream Focus 21:08, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
You did not attempt to reason with me DreamFocus. All you did was attack me, you did not attempt to reason with me at all, there was any any discussion at all. I attempt to turn that into a one, Postdlf banned me; real classy. Dream Focus has about 350 reports at AN. And you have not added a fresh opinion at at all, Favre1fan93. And to answer the question, no they don't as they are routine coverage like reviews. Spshu ( talk) 14:29, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
IF you analize it for with it has, not what it is, then yes. but not really. Lucia Black ( talk) 23:05, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Did we ever come to a resolution on whether cosplay pics should be used in character articles? [13] 50.13.17.59 ( talk) 16:31, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
I am assuming that this [14] is not an appropriate link addition. 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 15:06, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Can we come up with some sources to prove the notability of Savage Land? Unlike many of the nominator's recent AFDs, this one and possibly also Atlantis (Marvel Comics) are likely to have the kind of sources needed to salvage them, as was done with Ultimate Nullifier. Most of the rest, in my opinion, are better merged per WP:PRESERVE than deleted. BOZ ( talk) 13:51, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Is Darkseid a "archenemy" of Superman or Galactus a "archenemy" of the Fantastic Four or Ra's al Ghul a archenemy of Batman. I am having dispute on another editor about this. He keeps adding back his inclusions on the archenemy page. Some I stated that weren't reliable sources but he added anyway some are more reliable but I still feel are hogwash. I feel like getting rid of the entire list of that page entirely so Wikipedia won't be a list of opinions. Jhenderson 777 14:51, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
I really think it should - I went ahead and converted the first page of List of DC Comics characters into more of a list, rather than just table entries. Doing all 26ish pages would be heavy task, so, I'd very much like some help from other editors. There are lots of dumb or useless entries, one-shot characters or background characters that literally have done nothing. There's also the issue with the existence of the List of minor DC Comics characters article - user:Fandraltastic seems have to handled the bulk of merging of Marvel's version of the same page to their main list of characters. There's really no reason for two articles, when they should technically have 100% overlapping content. There are also lots of stub articles on DC characters that shouldn't really...have articles. I know user:Fortdj33 is actively merging Marvel characters articles with very little content into the Marvel list. I'm pretty sure that the DC stuff should be handled the same way...so, anyone in? || Tako ( bother me) || 14:09, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
i think there are deeper problems with that and thats whats in the list. Lucia Black ( talk) 21:34, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
So i was looking at Batgirl and noticed how well written it is and that its even a GA. Something i didn't expect from an article such as Batgirl. And then i noticed the Barbara Gordon in other media and Alternate versions of Barbara Gordon saving so much effort into destroying an article from a mess of alternate history and such and makes it focus only on key details.
But now we have more messy articles. So maybe part of the key to fixing huge unnecessary messes is moving such specific info into a separate article to cover those specific details and where such article would need to cover them. But the rest is figuring out how to make these alternate articles into GA aswell. I think this will definitely help further articles that are convoluted with those that are in other media/alternate versions.
If we find a way to make them into GA, we may be able to solve most of the problems that these articles have or at least make them more accessible to first-time readers or editors to be able to edit the article further to reach them closer to GA. If we do find a way to modify it, we would be able to fix it....unfortunately, again, i'm unfamiliar with most of the characters, but i'm determined to attempt to fix these articles, i just need a discussion going to reach a wider consensus. Lucia Black ( talk) 09:42, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
I was thinking of making a table for such things, to make them out to be list articles instead. Lucia Black ( talk) 01:20, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
We've been demoted, folks. It was decided 5–2 that comics is not vital, because "As a type of drawing, it's a step down in significance from that or the other visual arts." The discussion was closed by the nominator five hours after the first oppose vote. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 12:27, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Heyo.. is there a cosplay wikiproject? or, is this wikiproject a good place to seek cosplay experts? Can someone point to statistics of the most often cosplayed characters? Cogiati ( talk) 04:30, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
I am trying to improve this article but noone is responding there. I need sources. Any sources. Stuff on cultural impact, if oyu know of song or media references I can then search for references for those, if any of you have scans or a PDF of "Joker: A Visual History of the Clown Prince of Crime" or other related books that would be really useful. This is an important character to comic books and popular culture and I've done what I can to significantly improve the article but Googling Joker doesn't exactly give you a choice selection of related sources, OR it's all about The Dark Knight. Anyone have anything they can provide? Darkwarriorblake ( talk) 09:43, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Specifically, it has a link to Wikipedia:Naming_conventions (people)#Nick names, pen names, stage names, cognomens. However, the guideline does not apply to fictional characters. I created the essay Wikipedia:Naming conventions (characters), so can I replace the link to the other guideline with the link to the essay? -- George Ho ( talk) 17:41, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
I recently posted a question/comment to Talk:Doctor Strange#Archive links which I would like some feedback from the larger Project community. Per Wikipedia:Link rot ("Editors are encouraged to add an archive link as a part of each citation"), I spent quite a bit of time in March adding 25 archive links (WebCitation or the Internet Archive) to the Doctor Strange article. These archive links were present for nearly seven months until being removed entirely in October by an anonymous user. I certainly don't want to sound like I'm claiming ownership but archive links seem pretty uncontroversial and are (in the long-term) beneficial. I would like to restore the 25 links but am weary of edit warring. Comments here or at the Talk:Doctor Strange page are appreciated. Mtminchi08 ( talk) 02:12, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey everyone. I had a question about some simple math I'd like to include in an article. The math is completely based on things already sourced in the article, but I don't plan to cite the actual math, because that'd be like, an entire line of sources.
This exact instance pertains to the New 52#Publications / List of the New 52 publications. I've been thinking of adding a line like, "As of [date], there are 44 ongoing titles that have not solicited a final issue and 32 titles have ended or have solicited a final issue. 30 of the 52 "First Wave" titles remain in publication." A simple way of summarizing the tables and Publication history.
Would this be valid per WP:CALC, Wikipedia:About Valid Routine Calculations and WP:NOTOR#Simple calculations? I know all of those say pretty much the same thing, but would these apply in this case? Thanks. || Tako ( bother me) || 01:43, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Regarding edits like this. (Even though I would agree that we shouldn't label him as this when the movie hasn't happened yet.) This is a WikiProject Film guideline on how to write on the cast section on a film article. I feel this needs to stop being cited on a comic book character article unless this WikiProject adds it on their guideline as well. Jhenderson 777 18:49, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Help? [15] This user keeps insisting that he co-created Nova, without providing any kind of source. 2601:D:9400:3CD:41FD:DB69:B4AE:D176 ( talk) 05:01, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
Carl Barks is obviously very notable, and his comics deserve a lot of attention, but I fear we are going into overkill mode. I Prod'ded The Genuine Article (comics), an article about a one-page comic, but noted then that other similar articles have been created as well, e.g. Jumping to Conclusions (comics), Sorry to be Safe or Ornaments on the Way. Any opinions on whether these truly are all independently notable, and how best to handle these? Note that some stories deserve individual articles, so I'm not argiung to get rid of all of them. Fram ( talk) 15:36, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
People keep posting this kind of thing on Doctor Octopus and Vulture (comics). [16] Is this in any way appropriate? 2601:D:9400:3CD:4864:72FC:9846:465C ( talk) 04:28, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Right now the lists of characters, such as List of Marvel Comics characters, have a style bug:
Characters that have no page show up as sections. That's expected.
Characters that have their own page show up as bulleted links to the page. Without a section. So the bullet appears in the section for the previous character on the list.
Either every one of them should be in their own section, or they should be removed from the page(s).
My instinct was to create a section where the title linked to the article; it was reverted by NukeofEarl because MOS:Header doesn't like linked headers (in which case, fine: create a section with an unlinked header, containing only the bulleted link :-), and because we should have uniformity across all of these list pages.
Help me figure out a better final style format, and I'm happy to implement it across all of the affected pages. – SJ + 01:20, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
The text that contains the phrase is confusing: .(C)omplete with installing a lack of memory of anything related to humanity.".
Should the "C" be in ()? Robert ( talk) 21:04, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
An editor has made a proposal on dividing the article Alter ego in three distinct parts or separate articles, as they have different meanings/interpretations in different fields. Community input is greatly appreciated. - Mailer Diablo 18:39, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Can available editors offer their opinion regarding the Infobox photo discussion here? Thanks. Nightscream ( talk) 00:07, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for any assistance in judging whether this article merits publication. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 16:23, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Can someone familiar with Superboy comics perhaps give Superboy (Kon-El) a little clean up / rewrite in summary style? I've compressed the New 52 stuff based on other accounts of the story, but there are entire Superboy runs written as a blow-by-blow account of every thought or action Superboy had since "Death of Superman". I'm not a massive reader of Superboy comics so I don't think I'm qualified to compress it - I suspect it needs a full rewrite, with a fraction of the detail. Zythe ( talk) 19:24, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Is this edit original research? It's definitely unsourced, at the very least. 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 21:40, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Hey I am sorry about editing the page, i didn't know and I apologise but my editing was based off the fact that marvel wikia, powerlisting wikia and comicvine all stated that he had these powers and on those wikias they were sources proving this and since I couldn't figure out how to get those sources on wikipedia I just linked my edits to marvel wikias Franklin Richards page. I am sorry but those powers do seem legit, there was evenn several references to those powers in many comicvine battles each of them including threads proving this argument. So again I am so sorry about this and I will stop the editing war going on between us. So Sorry Again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omega Editor ( talk • contribs)
Is this something we want to give any recognition to at all? [19] 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 23:30, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I just had a little bit of an issue with articles created by a user that appeared to be here to promote the website Mattycollector.com. I've managed to redirect most of them to various other places on Wikipedia, as most of them were either covered in another article or they weren't notable enough for their own article and could be merged into another entry. (These are mostly He-Man related, by the way.) All I have left is the article for Scott Neitlich, the website's founder. I've reduced the article down to a bare bones state, but I'm a little unsure of the sourcing I currently have. Some of the sources are from sites I'm not sure would pass our RS guidelines and I'm just concerned that others aren't really about Neitlich, but about toys in general. They're neither about his toys specifically nor about himself or the website. It's kind of that grey area. They're exclusive to his site, but it's not really about the site if that makes any sense. I'm just not entirely sure that he passes GNG, but I'm somewhat unsure as to where to merge him to. I figured I'd come ask for some help before officially nominating it for deletion. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 09:16, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
There is a discussion at the Village Pump that project members may wish to weigh in on regarding characters names used as disambiguators. BOZ ( talk) 19:43, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello. Just wanted to let everyone know that List of The New 52 publications has been submitted for a featured list review. We are really close to getting it approved, and could use a few more eyes and comments on it. Please find the review here. Thanks. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 21:22, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Draft:Beth Sotelo, Draft:David Morgan-Mar, Draft:Jason Holmgren, Draft:Klaus Scherwinski, and Draft:Steve Crompton are draft space pages related to this WikiProject. If you have any independent reliable sources to add to any of these articles, we may be able to get them moved into article space.
If you are interested in helping out with more drafts, please see my list of draft space pages, and help me reach my goal of eventually getting them all to article space! BOZ ( talk) 00:06, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
On 18 November 2013, I posted here regarding an incident on the Doctor Strange article regarding the unexplained removal of WebCitation and Internet Archive links from that article on 16 October 2013. See here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics/Archive 47#Archiving online links.
On 20 January 2014, a similar incident occurred on the Inhumans article as well. I posted on that article's talk page here: Talk:Inhumans#WebCitation and Internet Archive links
Both times the WebCitation/Internet Archive links (and the author names/bylines as well) were removed by an IP user from Norfolk, England ( 86.140.207.5 for Doctor Strange and 86.169.192.128 for the Inhumans) I would like to follow WP:GOODFAITH but am rather perplexed as to why someone is removing things without explanation or rationale, especially something that is there per the Wikipedia:Link rot policy. I wanted to let other editors know about this as I'm trying to avoid losing my cool over it.
Thanks for listening (er...reading.) Mtminchi08 ( talk) 01:40, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
This is a neutral request for comments regarding the inclusion of Avengers Confidential: Black Widow & Punisher at Template talk:Avengers#Avengers Confidential: Black Widow & Punisher.-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 19:21, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
The current critical reception section of MIND MGMT says "Later issues continued to receive praise" with a group ref to 6 reviews of random issues. I'd like to replace it with one ref to the the book's page on comicbookroundup. A wiki search shows it used on one other page - Valiant Comics - in an identical situation.
Is this a reliable source? If so, should I leave in the other links, since not all of them are included by the aggrigator? Argento Surfer ( talk) 17:05, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
Would anyone be able to find any reliable sources for Tomm Coker? I suspect there must be something for him out there. BOZ ( talk) 13:15, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
The recently created Emily Osborn article has been nominated for deletion. Please post comments for or against on the discussion page. Thank you. Spidey 104 14:14, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
If anyone has any insight or input on this situation, please post your thoughts at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Crashsnake. Thank you. BOZ ( talk) 23:31, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I want to create an article on the graphic novel M3, and was looking through the sources I came across. One is a mention of it in my local paper, The Hudson Reporter, so I know that it's reliable, but I need to know about the other three:
I had never heard of these websites when I came across them. Are they reliable? What does everyone think? Nightscream ( talk) 02:55, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Do we want to populate Category:Fictional characters with radiation abilities based on rationales such as this or this? 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 00:16, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Back in the day, most if not all of the characters by superpower categories got deleted at CFD, due to most powers classifications either being too vague or overly specific, the degree to which comics characters change or temporarily get endowed with new and different powers (i.e., Spider-Man in a number of powers-related categories just for once being Captain Universe for a few episodes), interminable arguments over whether a character truly had the power of "flight" or instead glided, levitated, used flying technology etc. So these were all supposed to have been converted to lists. Was that reversed at some point, or just subject to category entropy? postdlf ( talk) 21:06, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
I've nominated Lynd Ward's wordless novel Gods' Man as a Featured Article Candidate, and would appreciate anyone willing to donate their time to review the article. Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 08:06, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
The article for Will Eisner's graphic novel A Contract with God has recently become a Good Article. I'm planning on nominating it as a Featured Article Candidate and would appreciate any feedback to help it get there. The Peer Review is here, so please stop by! Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 08:20, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Would you be interested in participating in a user study? We are a team at University of Washington studying methods for finding collaborators within a Wikipedia community. We are looking for volunteers to evaluate a new visualization tool. All you need to do is to prepare for your laptop/desktop, web camera, and speaker for video communication with Google Hangout. We will provide you with a Amazon gift card in appreciation of your time and participation. For more information about this study, please visit our wiki page ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Finding_a_Collaborator). If you would like to participate in our user study, please send me a message at Wkmaster ( talk) 17:25, 4 February 2014 (UTC).
My apologies to everyone on this page who received a notification ("echo" or "ping", the numbers to the right of your name at the right hand side top of the screen). We are experimenting with Flow, a new talk page system, and it has some serious bugs. Feel free to join the tests at Wikipedia talk:Flow/Developer test page or to leave your feedback at Wikipedia talk:Flow. I'll try not to repeat the accidental mass-pinging, but accidents can happen... Fram ( talk) 14:30, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
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I had added some tags into Transformers characters articles calking them "Marvel Comics characters", just the ones who appeared in actual Marvel comics. Another editor has been removing these tags under the argument that all Transformers characters are tagged as "comic characters", therefore tagging them as "Marvel Comics characters" is redundant. I don't think this is legitimate because not all Transformers characters specifically appeared in Marvel comics. The reader of a wikipedia page of a Transformers character won't know if that character appeared in a Marvel Comics from the categories unless you specially call him a "Marvel Comics" character. Some newer Transformers characters appeared in Dreamwave Productions comics, or IDW Publishing comics. So I planned to list the specific comic companies. A broad "Comics character" does not inform the reader if the character was Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW or whatever. Anyone else have an opinion on this? Mathewignash ( talk) 15:28, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
The IPs 108.34.176.37 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and 24.38.188.84 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) have added the phrase "real name" in the lead of numerous comics character articles. Do we want the lead sentence to read "Smith Man (John Smith) is a..." or "Smith Man (real name John Smith) is a..." as the IP user(s) have been doing? 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 23:19, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
So then, while it's debatable whether the alter ego name should be in the lead sentence at all, there does at least seem to be some support that the "real name" phrase is definitely unnecessary. So would it be a good idea to revert all of those additions, and point the IP user back here if they are inclined to revert war instead of accepting the change? 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 16:22, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Would anyone mind terribly if Warlord (DC Thomson) was moved to Warlord (comics), and that one went to The Warlord (comics)? The American comic is titled with "The", and (apparently) so is the character. Would make for more natural disambiguators, and be more accurate. See WP:THE. I'm not familiar with either, though, so there might be something I'm overlooking. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:35, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Do we want to have a list that separates current and former members of a team like this? 2601:D:9400:3CD:BA:66E2:920E:EEB5 ( talk) 13:30, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
This seems a very defining characteristic which is incredibly common in comic books; yet this is not a category. It's one of the top three most common super powers behind super strength and speed probably. I guess Nth metal would count as a technology and people using technology to fly like Iron Man should be left out. CensoredScribe ( talk) 16:25, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone have access to The Comics Journal #267 (April/May 2005, the Will Eisner obituary issue). I'd like to see if there's anything significant in it that could be added to the artcle for A Contract with God before I take it to FAC. Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 11:18, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
I think Superhero's who possess a professional skill should be listed as that profession even if it is not their job. I've been adding categories to super hero's such as sole survivor and roboticist to Superman. Superman is clearly quite good at making his Superman duplicate robots. Some of the best known runs of Batman address that he has a split personality issue. Batman comics are psychological fiction even if Batman doesn't count as a psychologist; which according to checkmate he is treated is. Martson run Wonder Woman is the most familiar to feminist theorists, the version of Wonder Woman with telepathy and electro kinesis. The original Spiderman invented web shooters which he could augment for different situations or give to people. I think the policy of using only the best known aspects of the character instead of the comics canon version tends to ignore a lot of their more memorable dark and edgy aspects that would never make it to a film, cartoon or even video game. CensoredScribe ( talk) 17:33, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
I just created a page for the new Batman character Bluebird, my first comic book character entry. I notice that it has a number of tags about depreciated parameters in the infobox I took from the old Marvel Bluebird page, as well as something called the "comic navigational boxes purge." It seems like ditching the older "supersupportingbox" in favor of the broader one for all comic book characters would fix the first problem, but I can't find anything on the style page about navboxes. From the name of the category, it seems like there is a push to delete all of them, which seems a shame. Is there a place I can find more information on these problems?
Thanks! TI. Gracchus ( talk) 20:38, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 45#Comic-Con Panel. RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 11:33, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
I've nominated the Goodman Beaver article up as a Featured Article candidate, and would appreciate any and all reviews and feedback. You can take part at the nomination here. Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 10:18, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
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I'm trying to improve the Joker article and have been doing so over the last 5 months, but I am struggling to find information on his real world impact in terms of merchandising, popular culture references, etc. If anyone could provide me info on these it would be very appreciated. DWB (talk) / Comment on Dishonored's FA nom! 20:56, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
I've put the ukiyo-e article up for Peer Review with the intention of nominating it as a Featured Article Candidate sometime this year. I'd appreciate any and all feedback—but especially on the choice and placement of images, and on my admittedly poor description of ukiyo-e's relation to traditional Japanese aesthetics. The review is at Wikipedia:Peer review/Ukiyo-e/archive1. Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 23:26, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
How is there no article on Allen Bellman, the last artist standing (still living) from Timely/Marvel's World War II years? I'd create it myself, but I have a COI issue. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 08:59, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Gordon Bell (comics) has been proposed for deletion by an editor who thinks a press obituary isn't enough to establish notability. I've expressed my opposition on the deletion page and added a reference from Alan Clark's Dictionary of British Comic Artists, Writers and Editors. Bell is a significant name in British humour comics, and it would be a shame if a valid article were deleted for a lack of references, so if anybody can improve the article by adding references, please do. -- Nicknack009 ( talk) 12:34, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Is this an appropriate removal of content? 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 20:35, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
How much of this content is appropriate for the lead section? 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 23:53, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Zythe mentions that "the lead summarises the whole article", but he overlooks that the article in question doesn't cover Nick Fury's appearances in cinema, and in fact scarcely mentions that the character has appeared in films outside of the lead. So shouldn't we move the text in question from the lead of Nick Fury to the lead of Nick Fury in other media?-- NukeofEarl ( talk) 15:13, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
I'd like to get some Comic folks to take a quick look at the Article on Al Plastino
Basically, comics historian Mark Evanier has made a public statement on his blog about Al Plastino not dying from Prostate Cancer but from Guillain–Barré syndrome. He posted it on his blog, which I consider a viable resource. It's currently being challenged by User:Tenebrae, mostly because of claims that vaccines causing GBS are "fringe science".
I'd like a few other people to review this so it's not just two people's disagreement. I think most folk here would consider Evanier a reliable source, and it's also stands to reason mistakes in a death are unlikely to be followed up by the mainstream press. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnRTroy ( talk • contribs) 21:24, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
The family and friends of Al Plastino are tag-teaming to perpetuate their edit-warring with a WP:FRINGE claim that a flu vaccine gave him Guillain-Barré. One editor on the article talk page misrepresents the CDC, which contrary to this editor does not say flu vaccines give people Guillain-Barré. The article states clearly that Plastino suffered from Guillain-Barré, with citing. But no disinterested, unbiased source claims the vaccine killed him — only the family, which has something to gain by putting that claim on Wikipedia as a way to bolster any lawsuit. They also make an additional claim that's untrue. This hijacking of a Wikipedia page by the subject's family and friends to push a fringe view unsupported by any source other than themselves is shameful.
-- Tenebrae ( talk) 21:37, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
"it's already apparently considered reliable to some in the admin section."? What does that even mean? Who are you talking about? And ... "apparently"? "Apparently" by definition means someone's interpretation.
Absent something definitive, like a report quoting his doctor's or the death certificate, we don't know what the official cause of death was. At least one reliable source, PBS Newshour, says prostate cancer. The daughter says GBS but she also says GBS caused by a vaccine, so unless she states she is quoting the death certificate, she is not a credible source, and with such a contentious claim, certainly not in a blog that's not WP:RS for medical information. (She's not disinterested or unbiased, since a claim of vaccine-created GBS can be the basis for a lawsuit.) Given such conflicting reports and uncertainty, the safest, most conservative and most accurate thing for an encyclopedia to do is not state a cause of death at all. It is in no way required, and it is clearly a contentious issue. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 16:31, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
An article about this comic-book writer/artist was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff Nicholson. At the request of user Ultra Klutz Jr. ( talk · contribs), who has an admitted COI, I userfied it to User:Ultra Klutz Jr./Jeff Nicholson and gave some advice at User talk:Ultra Klutz Jr.#Jeff Nicholson. S/he has done some work on it so that it less like a CV, and has asked on my talk page for help. I think there is an article here: is there anyone who could lend a hand? JohnCD ( talk) 23:06, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Do we document every time a character is mentioned in other media? For example, Sif mentioned the Kree in an episode of Agents of SHIELD. [21] I am thinking that just because someone said the word "Kree" in an episode of a TV show, we do not need to mention it here. 2601:D:9400:3CD:60BD:CB57:C627:D304 ( talk) 12:23, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
As there are six species that are listed, I think in this instance it should be approached as follows: it should be noted on the Kree page, per the reason I stated above, and with the context Triiiple noted should be included, and all other statements on List of alien races in Marvel Comics for the other species should be removed until it is confirmed what the half corpse race actually is. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 21:31, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
I think the first category is much more easily defined and is best known to belong to Superman as one of his most iconic abilities. How many times does Lex Luthor hide things in lead because Superman can see through the walls of world. I can namea few other characters who have that ability as well, though I don't think Olga Mesmer has her own page yet. CensoredScribe ( talk) 05:20, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Reading over past (and recent) history, Doduf has asserted that Carl Barks' notability confers notability on the articles in question that it's not hurting anyone, and that the article demonstrates notability internally.
All three of these arguments are explicitly spelled out on WP:AADD as invalid, specifically WP:INHERITED, WP:NOHARM and WP:ADDSVALUE. None of these were raised during the AFDs, PRODs or discussion here.
None of the articles that I have seen contain any demonstration of NOTE. The refs point to the work itself, or collections. I can't find any examples (admittedly I only looked at 4) of independent 3rd party mentions, and my google-fu has failed to turn up anything interesting.
I'd suggest a mass AfD unless someone has some independent sources to throw into the mix. As another editor noted, the obvious counterexample would be the asteroid one.
Maury Markowitz ( talk) 19:41, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
This should be easy for at least the major Duck stories—a lot of ink has been spilled on Barks' work. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 21:40, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
All nine pages are now at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sorry to be Safe. Fram ( talk) 09:22, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
I have proposed merging Scorn (Marvel Comics) into Symbiote (comics). Please post your opinion in the discussion. Thank you. Spidey 104 02:12, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi all, I brought something up on the Batman & Son talk page, but I realize that it will get more attention here. As near as I can tell, the actual title for the graphic novel collection uses the word 'and', not an ampersand. (I put some refs for this on the article's talk page.) Per MOS:&, you should only use the ampersand if it is part of a work's title. However, it seems to me that this is not the case for Batman and Son. It's a nit-picky point, but I know some of you are as detail-oriented as I am. I thought I'd bring it up with all of you rather than just being bold and moving the article. Cheers, GentlemanGhost (converse) 01:36, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Um, what's wrong with the link to the official website in the EL section of the MoCCA Festival article? There is indeed a url in the official site link template, but it doesn't show up in the saved article. I tried fiddling with it, and even formatting it a different url, http://www.societyillustrators.org/Mocca_Event.aspx?id=10561, but the same thing happens. Any ideas? Nightscream ( talk) 20:55, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Currently there are two articles for notable costumes worn by superheroes: the Batsuit, and Superman's suit. This is totally understandable, as these two iconic character designs have over 75 years of history behind them. However, many other character designs that could also be researched enough to have their own articles do not. That will soon change, as the Anarky article is in need of another split, and I've worked on a draft for a new Anarky costume article. I've a problem, though. In the absence of a name for a suit such as Batman's and Superman's, there seems to be no standard for what to call such an article. I'm leaning to "(insert name) character design", "Character design of (insert name)", or the slightly longer "Design history of (insert name)", which nicely mirrors the "Publication history of (insert name)" standard that exists now. Any comments would be appreciated, since this issue would seem to be an treading new ground and potentially establishing a new standard for other characters, from Wonder Woman and Captain America, to non-superheroes such as Archie and Tin Tin. -- Cast ( talk) 04:39, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
This navbox was recently created, I'm assuming because of the character's recent appearance in the new Captain America film, but is it really necessary? It is a navbox for a moniker that was once used by Bucky, a supporting character of Captain America. The moniker itself isn't even independently notable from Bucky. Thoughts?-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 15:12, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Does this category properly apply? [25] 2601:D:9400:5FF:88CA:4B8C:7A46:656 ( talk) 07:03, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
I've put the article for Will Eisner's 1978 graphic novel A Contract with God up as a Featured Article Candidate. Everyone is encouraged to participate in the review at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/A Contract with God/archive1. Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 12:47, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
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This reads, to me, like some one has done an essay. All OR, IMHO. 101.177.132.234 ( talk) 13:35, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
I have an issue of Comics Interview which includes reproductions of the pencils from Wolverine volume 2, #1 alongside the finished inked-and-lettered panels. It's occurred to me that scans of these reproductions might be useful to illustrate points in the articles Inker and Al Williamson (who inked that issue). However, Comics Interview uses ink-on-paper production on cheap newsprint, so the reproduction of the pencils is not very good quality. Will these illustrations still suffice until someone finds something better, or should I not bother?-- NukeofEarl ( talk) 18:05, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Many of the Savage Dragon and Spawn character articles have little or no third person sources I am thinking of deleting or merging some of them any thoughts? Dwanyewest ( talk) 23:14, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
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Can other editors weigh in on this discussion regarding this source? We could use others' opinions.
In the Identity Crisis (DC Comics) article, I removed the following passage:
Chris Sims and Matt D. Wilson, contributors to Grantland and the AV Club respectively, as well of Comics Alliance and the War Rocket Ajax podcast, ranked it dead last in their "Every Story Ever" rankings (a subjective list ranking comic story arcs). The War Rocket Ajax podcast
I removed it for the following reasons:
User:173.80.146.108, who is named Rob, responded to my message on his talk page with the following:
Okay, I understand that you don't believe that the "Every Story Ever" list on War Rocket Ajax doesn't meet the guidelines as a secondary source as you believe it is a "fan poscast." Fair enough. I disagree. The War Rocket Ajax podcast is a comic book and pop culture show that is reaching two hundred episodes this upcoming week. It is hosted by two people who, while fans, are also professional writers and comics journalists. Chris Sims is a writer and columnist for the aforementioned Comics Alliance, has written for Grantland - the ESPN/Disney-owned pop culture website, and is a comics creator himself (he is the writer of Sub Atomic Party Girls (a Monkeybrain comic) and has written for the Image comic Skullkickers). Matt Wilson, his co-host, also writes for Comics Alliance, is a regular contributor the The A/V Club, writes comics (Copernicus Jones, on Monkeybrain), and has written two books on comic book culture including The Super-Villains' Handbook. The War Rocket Ajax podcast has an interview every week, usually with a comic creator. Past guests have included Marvel and DC writers Rick Remender, Jonathan Hickman, Jeff Parker, Greg Pak, Jason Aaron, and on multiple occasions Matt Fraction. Based on these factors, the show rises above the level of "fan podcast" and into secondary source, as per the Wikipedia guidelines. As for the list, as noted, it is an arbitrary, subjective ranking of comic book stories and arcs. Listeners submit a story arc and Sims ans Wilson rank it against the previous submissions. This is similar to the WFMU/Best Show/Tom Sharpling "Best Song Ever" ranking, where Mr. Sharpling would rank a given song against a list of other, previously ranked songs, to arrive at a list similar to other "Best song of all time lists," such at the Rolling Stone 500. Including the WRA ranking in this section shows that some critics/journalists consider "Identity Crisis" to be, literally, the worst story of all time.
I believe the reception section, as currently formed, does not fully demonstrate the negative criticism the series has received in the decade since its publication. The specific negative criticism in the section as currently constituted, by Mr. Organ, concerns some of the art - art which he later states he enjoys, tempering his earlier negativity. Including the Comics Alliance quote provides context to the reader. Including the WRA ranking shows that some critics consider the story to be quite poor.
Regarding the War Rocket Ajax, Rob has addressed the issue of that site's reliability, but he hasn't addressed the other two points I raised about that list. Namely, how are those stories ranked? By quality? The issue is not that it's subjective, because all expressions of taste and aesthetics are subjective. The issue is that it isn't clear what exactly that list is a ranking of. Rob says that the WRA ranking indicates that some critics consider IC to be "the worst story of all time", and "quite poor". The problem is, the webpage doesn't say that. How does Rob make this interpretation? The passage claimed that IC was ranked "last" on the list. But while that story does appear last on the list, the list is not indicated to be ranked in any particular order, which is crucial to emphasizing such a thing. Rob, how do you know that that list is one of the worst comics? Again, that list includes Batman: Year One, Daredevil: Born Again, Top Ten: Smax, and the Stan Lee/ Jack Kirby X-Men. How do we know it's a list of poor-quality stories? Who are the critics or readers who contributed to that list?
I have no problem adding to the critical reception section of the article, but there have got to be more prominent sources to use. Why not check Newsarama, Comic Book Resources, Weekly Comic Book Review, iFanboy, The Comics Reporter, IGN, MTV Geek, Entertainment Weekly, Time, Complex, Publisher's Weekly, Ain't it Cool News, etc.? Nightscream ( talk) 12:39, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
When adding material about the writers or artists that influenced a given writer or artist, are we required to restrict ourselves to only those sources in which the creator themselves states who influenced him/her? Or can we include sources in which others present their interpretations to that effect? Up until now, I've restricted myself to the former, but I have an instance here of the latter: In this interview, Gary Groth sees Walter Simonson influence in Todd McFarlane's work. Is it citable?
And if so, are we required to emphasize the claim's attribution in how we word it in the article? In other words, would we have say, "According to Gary Groth, McFarlane shows influence by Walter Simonson."? Or is it okay to simply mention Simonson without saying who made this analysis (which is typically the case in the Infobox, for example). Nightscream ( talk) 17:09, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
This article was recently re-created without any references. It was previously redirected to Ultimates#Headquarters, but that section is no longer there. Should it be redirected elsewhere, deleted or are there enough sources to establish notability?-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 15:06, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
I have decided some articles especially Spawn and Savage Dragon articles should be merged or deleted if you wish to contribute I have started with The Dragon: Blood & Guts, Alex Wilde and Freak Force. Dwanyewest ( talk) 19:43, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Please discuss at Talk:HYDRA#Title and term change. 76.232.28.105 ( talk) 00:11, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Here we go again... would a character being mentioned in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. – but not actually appearing in the show as of yet – merit a mention in the article? My contention is that this is a trivial non-appearance, but I'm specifically trying to avoid edit warring on Griffin per this. 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 18:19, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Can I assume that I'm not the only one who has noticed that Newsarama links seem to invariably go dead, and without any replacement urls? Since Newsarama is such a vital source for information, and such a commonly cited one, is there a way to archive a given url before it goes dead? I've tried using the Wayback Machine to find replacement urls for ones that have gone dead, but sometimes don't find any. I know that there are other comics news sources, but there's not a lot of good ones, and sometimes, it hard or impossible to find reliable ones for a particular bit of info. I'm not too clear on how the Wayback works, but can an archive be made of a given webpage ahead of time? I'd like to do so with this story, which Newarama broke exclusively. I'd rather not rely on Bleeding Cool, whose repeat of the story indicates that it is taken from Newsarama, or Peter David's website, since that's a primary and self-published source. Nightscream ( talk) 18:00, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Is it the best approach to reword a character's power like this, with the only apparent intention being to reduce the total number of words used? To me, "weather resistant" does not explain it as well as it did with a few more words. There is also a talk page discussion at Talk:Storm (Marvel Comics)#Infobox. 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 15:08, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
This wasn't what I thought I remembered, but it does ring some bells as to what I actually read way back when: "Storm tries to control the weather outside, but she is overwhelmed by the unnatural storm. Because her power tries to compensate for climate extremes, Storm’s skin is burning in response to the super blizzard; Xavier uses his powers to help her, despite the concussion he suffered." [30] BOZ ( talk) 05:01, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
As a causal observer, I think the list of powers in the infobox are overly long. They should be trimmed to the character's most commonly recognized powers and further detail should be described in the body of the article. This goes for other character articles as well.-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 18:33, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm sure we have been over this before numerous times, but just as a refresher, is a character being mentioned in a video game, movie or TV show such as this case worth including in an article if the character does not actually make an appearance? 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 15:08, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
I have removed this mention, because Marvelct124 was revealed as a block-evading sock. 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 19:44, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Should the Marvel MAX line be considered an alternate universe, or is this argument correct? 2601:D:9400:448:8537:71C:23A7:60F8 ( talk) 04:28, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
A Request for Comment has been made regarding the appropriate level of generality of article title disambiguation for articles under WikiProject Comics. Please join the discussion here. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 21:20, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
This is just a notice that there is a requested move at Talk:Hydra (Marvel Comics)#Requested move.--23:32, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
Please comment at Talk:Man-Thing#Failure of WP:NOR, WP:ORIGINALSYN, and WP:V. 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 21:39, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
I will comment there too, but just so the project watchers know as a heads up, "Man-Thing" gets a shout out from Maria Hill in the new Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episode (it's in the preview released on their Facebook page), so, once again, people will undoubtable try to add that, when it is just a simple, irrelevant, Easter Egg mention. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 02:59, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
Is a non-appearance like this worth mentioning or is it too trivial? [31] 68.57.234.114 ( talk) 05:10, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
A revised Request for Comment has been made regarding the policy compliance of title disambiguation for articles under WikiProject Comics. Please join the discussion here (original here). Curly Turkey ( gobble) 23:48, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
The website Artbomb.net is under review by WP:A&M as a potential reliable source for manga reviews. As there is potential for this to be a reliable source for comic reviews as well, I though to ping this group for their own evaluations. The discussion is at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga#Artbomb.net reliable source? 24.149.117.220 ( talk) 23:15, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
I stumbled on this article Bananaman (radio show). I was just looking at this article's sources and the only one it has seems to refer to the TV show not the radio one. The article says that it starred Christien Pritchard as Elaine and Simon Harris as Gareth but there are no characters with such name in the Bananaman comic strip on which I assumed this radio show was based. So I am not sure whether this radio show existed and if it did whether it has any connection with the comic strip which the disambiguation article claims it does. Eopsid ( talk) 20:38, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
I forget if we have covered this specific instance here before, but at the end of The Amazing Spider-Man 2, there is an appearance of a set of mechanical tentacles and a set of wings, which are most likely references to Doctor Octopus and Vulture. I do believe these count as trivial non-appearances in terms of mentioning in each character's articles, and thusly I don't think they have any reason to be mentioned there.
While we have been at it so frequently lately, it might be a good idea for the project to draft an "in other media" guideline so that people can clearly see what is and is not acceptable for that section. 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 17:59, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
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I'm not a member of this project, but I noticed that User:24.139.148.54 has made a number of edits to infoboxes, replacing the bullets with <br>. Is this the preferred method? To me the bullets look more readable, making it clear that it isn't just a block of text with poor punctuation and grammar (compare [32] to [33]), but I didn't want to revert all the edits if there was consensus for this change. — Ost ( talk) 20:18, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Anyone who is interested in discussing whether the following Satan (Spawn), God (Spawn), Disciple (Image Comics), Redeemer (Image Comics) should be deleted or saved any contributions would be appreciated. Dwanyewest ( talk) 00:32, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Oh I forgot
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Hi, there's an RfC going on regarding Sonic the Hedgehog characters keeping their articles. It's here. I'm personally opposed to most of the proposed merges, but I figured I'd mention it to you all to get some wider perspective, i.e. from outside the Video games project, as that doesn't seem to be happening organically. And, hey, they're also characters in the Sonic comics and as such belong to this project too. Tezero ( talk) 17:22, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
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It got messy and stalled because new images came along midway. Can we try again?
Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 09:21, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Thread started at the Village Pump here to discuss the use of cosplay images in character articles. postdlf ( talk) 04:21, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
When mentioning the 2012 Avengers film or its sequel, do we want to say "Marvel's The Avengers" as here (or at Thanos or Ultron), or should the title just be "The Avengers"? 50.151.230.203 ( talk) 03:53, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
(copied from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fictional characters#Magical powers by the author)
Summary:
Magical powers redirects to Magic (paranormal) which is about human Anthropology and Religion.
I visited all 11 articles that use the "magical powers" link and changed 7 targets to magic in fiction. Those seven articles about four fictional characters, one novel, one film, and one TV series. All use "magical powers" concerning anthropoid characters with superhuman abilities. I suppose that most of the characters are treated as human within the fiction. It may be reasonable to call them "superhumans" for short.
Some of the superhuman abilities are called paranormal in the context of real human beliefs and practices, ranging form pseudoscience to religion to stage magic. Some are called psionic in science fiction and real contexts, I think. Perhaps editors writing about "magical" characters should consider linking to one of those articles.
At the moment we have 0, 4, more than 100, and 0 articles that link magic powers, magical powers, magical, and magically --all of which redirect to magic (paranormal). My ongoing examination of their use seems to show that they do need disambiguation so I anticipate that all will soon redirect to the disambiguation page Magic.
-- P64 ( talk) 19:28, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
I've put up the article for Winsor McCay's 1912 animated film How a Mosquito Operates as a Featured Article Candidate. Any and all participation in the nomination page would be enormously helpful. Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 13:36, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
FYI, image:Self-portrait of illustrator Harry V.R. Anderson.jpg has been nominated for deletion and WT:Articles for creation/Harry V.R. Anderson has been rejected for creation. If this comics illustrator is of importance to your project, you may want to rectify the situation with a fair-use rationale for the image, and adding references to the article and moving it to mainspace. -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 01:30, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
If a character has a name change after more than 20 years of appearances under one name, I am questioning if this is the best way to handle it in an article. 50.151.230.203 ( talk) 17:38, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
The navboxes for comics are way too big and difficult to navigate through (which is the point of a navbox). Mainly I see large cast of characters and fictional groups mixed with media. I propose splitting the characters/groups apart from the media so it can be easier to manage and navigate. Lucia Black ( talk) 10:59, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Why exactly are "Other versions" and "In other media" two separate sections in comic book articles, usually? Basically, film and cartoon versions ARE other versions - and usually, the other media has a companion comic book or something. (A strong example would be Smallville Season 11) . Those are the same versions, same continuity etc, but they are actually split in terms of Wikipedia - this could lead to a lot of duplicate information.
Don't exactly want (or care) to change it across Wikipedia, but a discussion on the topic would be nice. Has this been brought up before? || Tako ( bother me) || 18:52, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Is there anyway to add more shortcuts to that page? I was looking for it, and typed MOS:COMICS and was surprised that didn't take me to it. I know for other MOS pages, like film, using MOS:FILM takes you to the MOS page for film. Or even MOS:COMIC would be fine. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 04:46, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I have suggested a new one here: Template talk:WikiProject Comics - Christian75 ( talk) 21:12, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
This article still needs improvements. -- George Ho ( talk) 16:49, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
I respectfully propose a new workgroup: Tintin. I am new to the WikiProject Comics but not new to Wikipedia Tintin articles and Franco-Belgian comics articles, which I have been editing in collaboration with other fine editors for a few years. The long-range plan is Featured Topic Tintin containing multiple Featured Articles, including the main article, the list articles, the book articles, and the character articles. Perhaps by formalising a workgroup, more qualified editors can join in. I humbly request your suggestions and support. —Prhartcom (talk) 14:30, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Is it appropriate to mention in the article's lead that James Spader will portray Ultron in the next Avengers film? 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 15:10, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Interested parties can see Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Whaam!/archive2#Whammy_on_the_Whaam.21_50th_anniversary_drive.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:14, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
The WP:TFAR nomination for Whaam! is now open at Wikipedia:Today's_featured_article/requests#Whaam.21 to celebrate the 50th anniversary of its first exhibition. I presume that after nearly 700KB of discussions some people may be interested in this nomination.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:43, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
I've put up Little Nemo (1911 film) as a Featured Article canditate, and would appreciate any and all feedback on the article. Please join in the discussion at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Little Nemo (1911 film)/archive1. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 07:51, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Does anybody think Giant-Size X-Men should be moved to Giant-Size X-Men 1, per WP:PRECISION? I haven't been able to find many WP pages created for single issues, so I'm unsure. This isn't really a "series", per se — two one-shots in 1975, two 30 years later. Much of the material in all four issues are reprints. It's only Giant-Size #1 that's really significant and notable, not the other three. Woodshed ( talk) 09:34, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
You might be interested in this list, as it includes multimedia franchises with comic book components. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:51, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Feel free to comment at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Okay Hot-Shot, Okay!-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:16, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Punisher appears in the current Thunderbolts title as a member of the team; is it appropriate to mention this in the infobox [1]? 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 17:53, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
Expert opinions are needed regarding the notability of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Powr Mastrs and the suitability of the sources listed. Please use add {{afc comment|1=Your comment here}} to provide your feedback. Thanks. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 03:36, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone have (or can get) a photo of Françoise Mouly they'd like to share (for her article)? I'd rather not resort to a Fair Use image if I can avoid it. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 06:40, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Every time i even "attempt" to fix or clean up these articles, it gets confusing and gives me a headache. Their all organized completely different and its hard to find some middle ground for them to follow a consistent universal organization. I've been making this MOS for fictional characters for a while. User:Lucia Black/Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Fictional Characters.
Maybe after agreeing with a specific guideline to organize, then maybe the entire project can choose a random high-importance article, and slowly clean up the articles up 1 article at a time as a group effort. I'm not an expert in western comics, so i don't know where to look or how all these comics coexist together or what details to reduce. can someone help? Lucia Black ( talk) 16:27, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Having trouble at Thundra with a user who wants to insist that she is a supervillain without evidence. 50.13.17.59 ( talk) 03:02, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
What is the opinion - does a preview in Marvel Age count as a first appearance, or do we go with the first issue of his series? [2] 50.13.17.59 ( talk) 06:55, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Every time i even "attempt" to fix or clean up these articles, it gets confusing and gives me a headache. Their all organized completely different and its hard to find some middle ground for them to follow a consistent universal organization. I've been making this MOS for fictional characters for a while. User:Lucia Black/Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Fictional Characters.
Maybe after agreeing with a specific guideline to organize, then maybe the entire project can choose a random high-importance article, and slowly clean up the articles up 1 article at a time as a group effort. I'm not an expert in western comics, so i don't know where to look or how all these comics coexist together or what details to reduce. can someone help? Lucia Black ( talk) 16:27, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
What is the opinion - does a preview in Marvel Age count as a first appearance, or do we go with the first issue of his series? [3] 50.13.17.59 ( talk) 06:55, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Having trouble at Thundra with a user who wants to insist that she is a supervillain without evidence. 50.13.17.59 ( talk) 03:02, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Should this in any way be considered a reliable source? [4]
Also, please see my above thread about Thundra. 50.13.17.59 ( talk) 12:14, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm hoping to bring the Comics article to Featured Article status one of these days, and have put a lot of work into researching and polishing it. There's still a lot fo work to do (such as tracking down some references). Is there anyone who could lend a pair of eyes to the article, and help out either by contributing feedback or edits? The article's on the Vital articles list, and really deserves to be done well. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 05:31, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
There is one editor determined to eliminate an article [5] despite the comic book series having reliable sources interviewing those involved in it and giving it plenty of coverage. More attention to this please, I don't want to start an edit war with this person again. Dream Focus 21:08, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
You did not attempt to reason with me DreamFocus. All you did was attack me, you did not attempt to reason with me at all, there was any any discussion at all. I attempt to turn that into a one, Postdlf banned me; real classy. Dream Focus has about 350 reports at AN. And you have not added a fresh opinion at at all, Favre1fan93. And to answer the question, no they don't as they are routine coverage like reviews. Spshu ( talk) 14:29, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
IF you analize it for with it has, not what it is, then yes. but not really. Lucia Black ( talk) 23:05, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Did we ever come to a resolution on whether cosplay pics should be used in character articles? [8] 50.13.17.59 ( talk) 16:31, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Should this in any way be considered a reliable source? [9]
Also, please see my above thread about Thundra. 50.13.17.59 ( talk) 12:14, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm hoping to bring the Comics article to Featured Article status one of these days, and have put a lot of work into researching and polishing it. There's still a lot fo work to do (such as tracking down some references). Is there anyone who could lend a pair of eyes to the article, and help out either by contributing feedback or edits? The article's on the Vital articles list, and really deserves to be done well. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 05:31, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
There is one editor determined to eliminate an article [10] despite the comic book series having reliable sources interviewing those involved in it and giving it plenty of coverage. More attention to this please, I don't want to start an edit war with this person again. Dream Focus 21:08, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
You did not attempt to reason with me DreamFocus. All you did was attack me, you did not attempt to reason with me at all, there was any any discussion at all. I attempt to turn that into a one, Postdlf banned me; real classy. Dream Focus has about 350 reports at AN. And you have not added a fresh opinion at at all, Favre1fan93. And to answer the question, no they don't as they are routine coverage like reviews. Spshu ( talk) 14:29, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
IF you analize it for with it has, not what it is, then yes. but not really. Lucia Black ( talk) 23:05, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Did we ever come to a resolution on whether cosplay pics should be used in character articles? [13] 50.13.17.59 ( talk) 16:31, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
I am assuming that this [14] is not an appropriate link addition. 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 15:06, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Can we come up with some sources to prove the notability of Savage Land? Unlike many of the nominator's recent AFDs, this one and possibly also Atlantis (Marvel Comics) are likely to have the kind of sources needed to salvage them, as was done with Ultimate Nullifier. Most of the rest, in my opinion, are better merged per WP:PRESERVE than deleted. BOZ ( talk) 13:51, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Is Darkseid a "archenemy" of Superman or Galactus a "archenemy" of the Fantastic Four or Ra's al Ghul a archenemy of Batman. I am having dispute on another editor about this. He keeps adding back his inclusions on the archenemy page. Some I stated that weren't reliable sources but he added anyway some are more reliable but I still feel are hogwash. I feel like getting rid of the entire list of that page entirely so Wikipedia won't be a list of opinions. Jhenderson 777 14:51, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
I really think it should - I went ahead and converted the first page of List of DC Comics characters into more of a list, rather than just table entries. Doing all 26ish pages would be heavy task, so, I'd very much like some help from other editors. There are lots of dumb or useless entries, one-shot characters or background characters that literally have done nothing. There's also the issue with the existence of the List of minor DC Comics characters article - user:Fandraltastic seems have to handled the bulk of merging of Marvel's version of the same page to their main list of characters. There's really no reason for two articles, when they should technically have 100% overlapping content. There are also lots of stub articles on DC characters that shouldn't really...have articles. I know user:Fortdj33 is actively merging Marvel characters articles with very little content into the Marvel list. I'm pretty sure that the DC stuff should be handled the same way...so, anyone in? || Tako ( bother me) || 14:09, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
i think there are deeper problems with that and thats whats in the list. Lucia Black ( talk) 21:34, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
So i was looking at Batgirl and noticed how well written it is and that its even a GA. Something i didn't expect from an article such as Batgirl. And then i noticed the Barbara Gordon in other media and Alternate versions of Barbara Gordon saving so much effort into destroying an article from a mess of alternate history and such and makes it focus only on key details.
But now we have more messy articles. So maybe part of the key to fixing huge unnecessary messes is moving such specific info into a separate article to cover those specific details and where such article would need to cover them. But the rest is figuring out how to make these alternate articles into GA aswell. I think this will definitely help further articles that are convoluted with those that are in other media/alternate versions.
If we find a way to make them into GA, we may be able to solve most of the problems that these articles have or at least make them more accessible to first-time readers or editors to be able to edit the article further to reach them closer to GA. If we do find a way to modify it, we would be able to fix it....unfortunately, again, i'm unfamiliar with most of the characters, but i'm determined to attempt to fix these articles, i just need a discussion going to reach a wider consensus. Lucia Black ( talk) 09:42, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
I was thinking of making a table for such things, to make them out to be list articles instead. Lucia Black ( talk) 01:20, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
We've been demoted, folks. It was decided 5–2 that comics is not vital, because "As a type of drawing, it's a step down in significance from that or the other visual arts." The discussion was closed by the nominator five hours after the first oppose vote. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 12:27, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Heyo.. is there a cosplay wikiproject? or, is this wikiproject a good place to seek cosplay experts? Can someone point to statistics of the most often cosplayed characters? Cogiati ( talk) 04:30, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
I am trying to improve this article but noone is responding there. I need sources. Any sources. Stuff on cultural impact, if oyu know of song or media references I can then search for references for those, if any of you have scans or a PDF of "Joker: A Visual History of the Clown Prince of Crime" or other related books that would be really useful. This is an important character to comic books and popular culture and I've done what I can to significantly improve the article but Googling Joker doesn't exactly give you a choice selection of related sources, OR it's all about The Dark Knight. Anyone have anything they can provide? Darkwarriorblake ( talk) 09:43, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Specifically, it has a link to Wikipedia:Naming_conventions (people)#Nick names, pen names, stage names, cognomens. However, the guideline does not apply to fictional characters. I created the essay Wikipedia:Naming conventions (characters), so can I replace the link to the other guideline with the link to the essay? -- George Ho ( talk) 17:41, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
I recently posted a question/comment to Talk:Doctor Strange#Archive links which I would like some feedback from the larger Project community. Per Wikipedia:Link rot ("Editors are encouraged to add an archive link as a part of each citation"), I spent quite a bit of time in March adding 25 archive links (WebCitation or the Internet Archive) to the Doctor Strange article. These archive links were present for nearly seven months until being removed entirely in October by an anonymous user. I certainly don't want to sound like I'm claiming ownership but archive links seem pretty uncontroversial and are (in the long-term) beneficial. I would like to restore the 25 links but am weary of edit warring. Comments here or at the Talk:Doctor Strange page are appreciated. Mtminchi08 ( talk) 02:12, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey everyone. I had a question about some simple math I'd like to include in an article. The math is completely based on things already sourced in the article, but I don't plan to cite the actual math, because that'd be like, an entire line of sources.
This exact instance pertains to the New 52#Publications / List of the New 52 publications. I've been thinking of adding a line like, "As of [date], there are 44 ongoing titles that have not solicited a final issue and 32 titles have ended or have solicited a final issue. 30 of the 52 "First Wave" titles remain in publication." A simple way of summarizing the tables and Publication history.
Would this be valid per WP:CALC, Wikipedia:About Valid Routine Calculations and WP:NOTOR#Simple calculations? I know all of those say pretty much the same thing, but would these apply in this case? Thanks. || Tako ( bother me) || 01:43, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Regarding edits like this. (Even though I would agree that we shouldn't label him as this when the movie hasn't happened yet.) This is a WikiProject Film guideline on how to write on the cast section on a film article. I feel this needs to stop being cited on a comic book character article unless this WikiProject adds it on their guideline as well. Jhenderson 777 18:49, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Help? [15] This user keeps insisting that he co-created Nova, without providing any kind of source. 2601:D:9400:3CD:41FD:DB69:B4AE:D176 ( talk) 05:01, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
Carl Barks is obviously very notable, and his comics deserve a lot of attention, but I fear we are going into overkill mode. I Prod'ded The Genuine Article (comics), an article about a one-page comic, but noted then that other similar articles have been created as well, e.g. Jumping to Conclusions (comics), Sorry to be Safe or Ornaments on the Way. Any opinions on whether these truly are all independently notable, and how best to handle these? Note that some stories deserve individual articles, so I'm not argiung to get rid of all of them. Fram ( talk) 15:36, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
People keep posting this kind of thing on Doctor Octopus and Vulture (comics). [16] Is this in any way appropriate? 2601:D:9400:3CD:4864:72FC:9846:465C ( talk) 04:28, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Right now the lists of characters, such as List of Marvel Comics characters, have a style bug:
Characters that have no page show up as sections. That's expected.
Characters that have their own page show up as bulleted links to the page. Without a section. So the bullet appears in the section for the previous character on the list.
Either every one of them should be in their own section, or they should be removed from the page(s).
My instinct was to create a section where the title linked to the article; it was reverted by NukeofEarl because MOS:Header doesn't like linked headers (in which case, fine: create a section with an unlinked header, containing only the bulleted link :-), and because we should have uniformity across all of these list pages.
Help me figure out a better final style format, and I'm happy to implement it across all of the affected pages. – SJ + 01:20, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
The text that contains the phrase is confusing: .(C)omplete with installing a lack of memory of anything related to humanity.".
Should the "C" be in ()? Robert ( talk) 21:04, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
An editor has made a proposal on dividing the article Alter ego in three distinct parts or separate articles, as they have different meanings/interpretations in different fields. Community input is greatly appreciated. - Mailer Diablo 18:39, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Can available editors offer their opinion regarding the Infobox photo discussion here? Thanks. Nightscream ( talk) 00:07, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for any assistance in judging whether this article merits publication. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 16:23, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Can someone familiar with Superboy comics perhaps give Superboy (Kon-El) a little clean up / rewrite in summary style? I've compressed the New 52 stuff based on other accounts of the story, but there are entire Superboy runs written as a blow-by-blow account of every thought or action Superboy had since "Death of Superman". I'm not a massive reader of Superboy comics so I don't think I'm qualified to compress it - I suspect it needs a full rewrite, with a fraction of the detail. Zythe ( talk) 19:24, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Is this edit original research? It's definitely unsourced, at the very least. 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 21:40, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Hey I am sorry about editing the page, i didn't know and I apologise but my editing was based off the fact that marvel wikia, powerlisting wikia and comicvine all stated that he had these powers and on those wikias they were sources proving this and since I couldn't figure out how to get those sources on wikipedia I just linked my edits to marvel wikias Franklin Richards page. I am sorry but those powers do seem legit, there was evenn several references to those powers in many comicvine battles each of them including threads proving this argument. So again I am so sorry about this and I will stop the editing war going on between us. So Sorry Again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omega Editor ( talk • contribs)
Is this something we want to give any recognition to at all? [19] 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 23:30, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I just had a little bit of an issue with articles created by a user that appeared to be here to promote the website Mattycollector.com. I've managed to redirect most of them to various other places on Wikipedia, as most of them were either covered in another article or they weren't notable enough for their own article and could be merged into another entry. (These are mostly He-Man related, by the way.) All I have left is the article for Scott Neitlich, the website's founder. I've reduced the article down to a bare bones state, but I'm a little unsure of the sourcing I currently have. Some of the sources are from sites I'm not sure would pass our RS guidelines and I'm just concerned that others aren't really about Neitlich, but about toys in general. They're neither about his toys specifically nor about himself or the website. It's kind of that grey area. They're exclusive to his site, but it's not really about the site if that makes any sense. I'm just not entirely sure that he passes GNG, but I'm somewhat unsure as to where to merge him to. I figured I'd come ask for some help before officially nominating it for deletion. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 09:16, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
There is a discussion at the Village Pump that project members may wish to weigh in on regarding characters names used as disambiguators. BOZ ( talk) 19:43, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello. Just wanted to let everyone know that List of The New 52 publications has been submitted for a featured list review. We are really close to getting it approved, and could use a few more eyes and comments on it. Please find the review here. Thanks. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 21:22, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Draft:Beth Sotelo, Draft:David Morgan-Mar, Draft:Jason Holmgren, Draft:Klaus Scherwinski, and Draft:Steve Crompton are draft space pages related to this WikiProject. If you have any independent reliable sources to add to any of these articles, we may be able to get them moved into article space.
If you are interested in helping out with more drafts, please see my list of draft space pages, and help me reach my goal of eventually getting them all to article space! BOZ ( talk) 00:06, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
On 18 November 2013, I posted here regarding an incident on the Doctor Strange article regarding the unexplained removal of WebCitation and Internet Archive links from that article on 16 October 2013. See here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics/Archive 47#Archiving online links.
On 20 January 2014, a similar incident occurred on the Inhumans article as well. I posted on that article's talk page here: Talk:Inhumans#WebCitation and Internet Archive links
Both times the WebCitation/Internet Archive links (and the author names/bylines as well) were removed by an IP user from Norfolk, England ( 86.140.207.5 for Doctor Strange and 86.169.192.128 for the Inhumans) I would like to follow WP:GOODFAITH but am rather perplexed as to why someone is removing things without explanation or rationale, especially something that is there per the Wikipedia:Link rot policy. I wanted to let other editors know about this as I'm trying to avoid losing my cool over it.
Thanks for listening (er...reading.) Mtminchi08 ( talk) 01:40, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
This is a neutral request for comments regarding the inclusion of Avengers Confidential: Black Widow & Punisher at Template talk:Avengers#Avengers Confidential: Black Widow & Punisher.-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 19:21, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
The current critical reception section of MIND MGMT says "Later issues continued to receive praise" with a group ref to 6 reviews of random issues. I'd like to replace it with one ref to the the book's page on comicbookroundup. A wiki search shows it used on one other page - Valiant Comics - in an identical situation.
Is this a reliable source? If so, should I leave in the other links, since not all of them are included by the aggrigator? Argento Surfer ( talk) 17:05, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
Would anyone be able to find any reliable sources for Tomm Coker? I suspect there must be something for him out there. BOZ ( talk) 13:15, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
The recently created Emily Osborn article has been nominated for deletion. Please post comments for or against on the discussion page. Thank you. Spidey 104 14:14, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
If anyone has any insight or input on this situation, please post your thoughts at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Crashsnake. Thank you. BOZ ( talk) 23:31, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I want to create an article on the graphic novel M3, and was looking through the sources I came across. One is a mention of it in my local paper, The Hudson Reporter, so I know that it's reliable, but I need to know about the other three:
I had never heard of these websites when I came across them. Are they reliable? What does everyone think? Nightscream ( talk) 02:55, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Do we want to populate Category:Fictional characters with radiation abilities based on rationales such as this or this? 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 00:16, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Back in the day, most if not all of the characters by superpower categories got deleted at CFD, due to most powers classifications either being too vague or overly specific, the degree to which comics characters change or temporarily get endowed with new and different powers (i.e., Spider-Man in a number of powers-related categories just for once being Captain Universe for a few episodes), interminable arguments over whether a character truly had the power of "flight" or instead glided, levitated, used flying technology etc. So these were all supposed to have been converted to lists. Was that reversed at some point, or just subject to category entropy? postdlf ( talk) 21:06, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
I've nominated Lynd Ward's wordless novel Gods' Man as a Featured Article Candidate, and would appreciate anyone willing to donate their time to review the article. Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 08:06, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
The article for Will Eisner's graphic novel A Contract with God has recently become a Good Article. I'm planning on nominating it as a Featured Article Candidate and would appreciate any feedback to help it get there. The Peer Review is here, so please stop by! Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 08:20, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Would you be interested in participating in a user study? We are a team at University of Washington studying methods for finding collaborators within a Wikipedia community. We are looking for volunteers to evaluate a new visualization tool. All you need to do is to prepare for your laptop/desktop, web camera, and speaker for video communication with Google Hangout. We will provide you with a Amazon gift card in appreciation of your time and participation. For more information about this study, please visit our wiki page ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Finding_a_Collaborator). If you would like to participate in our user study, please send me a message at Wkmaster ( talk) 17:25, 4 February 2014 (UTC).
My apologies to everyone on this page who received a notification ("echo" or "ping", the numbers to the right of your name at the right hand side top of the screen). We are experimenting with Flow, a new talk page system, and it has some serious bugs. Feel free to join the tests at Wikipedia talk:Flow/Developer test page or to leave your feedback at Wikipedia talk:Flow. I'll try not to repeat the accidental mass-pinging, but accidents can happen... Fram ( talk) 14:30, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
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I had added some tags into Transformers characters articles calking them "Marvel Comics characters", just the ones who appeared in actual Marvel comics. Another editor has been removing these tags under the argument that all Transformers characters are tagged as "comic characters", therefore tagging them as "Marvel Comics characters" is redundant. I don't think this is legitimate because not all Transformers characters specifically appeared in Marvel comics. The reader of a wikipedia page of a Transformers character won't know if that character appeared in a Marvel Comics from the categories unless you specially call him a "Marvel Comics" character. Some newer Transformers characters appeared in Dreamwave Productions comics, or IDW Publishing comics. So I planned to list the specific comic companies. A broad "Comics character" does not inform the reader if the character was Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW or whatever. Anyone else have an opinion on this? Mathewignash ( talk) 15:28, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
The IPs 108.34.176.37 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and 24.38.188.84 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) have added the phrase "real name" in the lead of numerous comics character articles. Do we want the lead sentence to read "Smith Man (John Smith) is a..." or "Smith Man (real name John Smith) is a..." as the IP user(s) have been doing? 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 23:19, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
So then, while it's debatable whether the alter ego name should be in the lead sentence at all, there does at least seem to be some support that the "real name" phrase is definitely unnecessary. So would it be a good idea to revert all of those additions, and point the IP user back here if they are inclined to revert war instead of accepting the change? 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 16:22, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Would anyone mind terribly if Warlord (DC Thomson) was moved to Warlord (comics), and that one went to The Warlord (comics)? The American comic is titled with "The", and (apparently) so is the character. Would make for more natural disambiguators, and be more accurate. See WP:THE. I'm not familiar with either, though, so there might be something I'm overlooking. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:35, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Do we want to have a list that separates current and former members of a team like this? 2601:D:9400:3CD:BA:66E2:920E:EEB5 ( talk) 13:30, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
This seems a very defining characteristic which is incredibly common in comic books; yet this is not a category. It's one of the top three most common super powers behind super strength and speed probably. I guess Nth metal would count as a technology and people using technology to fly like Iron Man should be left out. CensoredScribe ( talk) 16:25, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone have access to The Comics Journal #267 (April/May 2005, the Will Eisner obituary issue). I'd like to see if there's anything significant in it that could be added to the artcle for A Contract with God before I take it to FAC. Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 11:18, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
I think Superhero's who possess a professional skill should be listed as that profession even if it is not their job. I've been adding categories to super hero's such as sole survivor and roboticist to Superman. Superman is clearly quite good at making his Superman duplicate robots. Some of the best known runs of Batman address that he has a split personality issue. Batman comics are psychological fiction even if Batman doesn't count as a psychologist; which according to checkmate he is treated is. Martson run Wonder Woman is the most familiar to feminist theorists, the version of Wonder Woman with telepathy and electro kinesis. The original Spiderman invented web shooters which he could augment for different situations or give to people. I think the policy of using only the best known aspects of the character instead of the comics canon version tends to ignore a lot of their more memorable dark and edgy aspects that would never make it to a film, cartoon or even video game. CensoredScribe ( talk) 17:33, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
I just created a page for the new Batman character Bluebird, my first comic book character entry. I notice that it has a number of tags about depreciated parameters in the infobox I took from the old Marvel Bluebird page, as well as something called the "comic navigational boxes purge." It seems like ditching the older "supersupportingbox" in favor of the broader one for all comic book characters would fix the first problem, but I can't find anything on the style page about navboxes. From the name of the category, it seems like there is a push to delete all of them, which seems a shame. Is there a place I can find more information on these problems?
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You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 45#Comic-Con Panel. RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 11:33, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
I've nominated the Goodman Beaver article up as a Featured Article candidate, and would appreciate any and all reviews and feedback. You can take part at the nomination here. Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 10:18, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
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I'm trying to improve the Joker article and have been doing so over the last 5 months, but I am struggling to find information on his real world impact in terms of merchandising, popular culture references, etc. If anyone could provide me info on these it would be very appreciated. DWB (talk) / Comment on Dishonored's FA nom! 20:56, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
I've put the ukiyo-e article up for Peer Review with the intention of nominating it as a Featured Article Candidate sometime this year. I'd appreciate any and all feedback—but especially on the choice and placement of images, and on my admittedly poor description of ukiyo-e's relation to traditional Japanese aesthetics. The review is at Wikipedia:Peer review/Ukiyo-e/archive1. Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 23:26, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
How is there no article on Allen Bellman, the last artist standing (still living) from Timely/Marvel's World War II years? I'd create it myself, but I have a COI issue. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 08:59, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Gordon Bell (comics) has been proposed for deletion by an editor who thinks a press obituary isn't enough to establish notability. I've expressed my opposition on the deletion page and added a reference from Alan Clark's Dictionary of British Comic Artists, Writers and Editors. Bell is a significant name in British humour comics, and it would be a shame if a valid article were deleted for a lack of references, so if anybody can improve the article by adding references, please do. -- Nicknack009 ( talk) 12:34, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Is this an appropriate removal of content? 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 20:35, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
How much of this content is appropriate for the lead section? 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 23:53, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Zythe mentions that "the lead summarises the whole article", but he overlooks that the article in question doesn't cover Nick Fury's appearances in cinema, and in fact scarcely mentions that the character has appeared in films outside of the lead. So shouldn't we move the text in question from the lead of Nick Fury to the lead of Nick Fury in other media?-- NukeofEarl ( talk) 15:13, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
I'd like to get some Comic folks to take a quick look at the Article on Al Plastino
Basically, comics historian Mark Evanier has made a public statement on his blog about Al Plastino not dying from Prostate Cancer but from Guillain–Barré syndrome. He posted it on his blog, which I consider a viable resource. It's currently being challenged by User:Tenebrae, mostly because of claims that vaccines causing GBS are "fringe science".
I'd like a few other people to review this so it's not just two people's disagreement. I think most folk here would consider Evanier a reliable source, and it's also stands to reason mistakes in a death are unlikely to be followed up by the mainstream press. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnRTroy ( talk • contribs) 21:24, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
The family and friends of Al Plastino are tag-teaming to perpetuate their edit-warring with a WP:FRINGE claim that a flu vaccine gave him Guillain-Barré. One editor on the article talk page misrepresents the CDC, which contrary to this editor does not say flu vaccines give people Guillain-Barré. The article states clearly that Plastino suffered from Guillain-Barré, with citing. But no disinterested, unbiased source claims the vaccine killed him — only the family, which has something to gain by putting that claim on Wikipedia as a way to bolster any lawsuit. They also make an additional claim that's untrue. This hijacking of a Wikipedia page by the subject's family and friends to push a fringe view unsupported by any source other than themselves is shameful.
-- Tenebrae ( talk) 21:37, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
"it's already apparently considered reliable to some in the admin section."? What does that even mean? Who are you talking about? And ... "apparently"? "Apparently" by definition means someone's interpretation.
Absent something definitive, like a report quoting his doctor's or the death certificate, we don't know what the official cause of death was. At least one reliable source, PBS Newshour, says prostate cancer. The daughter says GBS but she also says GBS caused by a vaccine, so unless she states she is quoting the death certificate, she is not a credible source, and with such a contentious claim, certainly not in a blog that's not WP:RS for medical information. (She's not disinterested or unbiased, since a claim of vaccine-created GBS can be the basis for a lawsuit.) Given such conflicting reports and uncertainty, the safest, most conservative and most accurate thing for an encyclopedia to do is not state a cause of death at all. It is in no way required, and it is clearly a contentious issue. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 16:31, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
An article about this comic-book writer/artist was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff Nicholson. At the request of user Ultra Klutz Jr. ( talk · contribs), who has an admitted COI, I userfied it to User:Ultra Klutz Jr./Jeff Nicholson and gave some advice at User talk:Ultra Klutz Jr.#Jeff Nicholson. S/he has done some work on it so that it less like a CV, and has asked on my talk page for help. I think there is an article here: is there anyone who could lend a hand? JohnCD ( talk) 23:06, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Do we document every time a character is mentioned in other media? For example, Sif mentioned the Kree in an episode of Agents of SHIELD. [21] I am thinking that just because someone said the word "Kree" in an episode of a TV show, we do not need to mention it here. 2601:D:9400:3CD:60BD:CB57:C627:D304 ( talk) 12:23, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
As there are six species that are listed, I think in this instance it should be approached as follows: it should be noted on the Kree page, per the reason I stated above, and with the context Triiiple noted should be included, and all other statements on List of alien races in Marvel Comics for the other species should be removed until it is confirmed what the half corpse race actually is. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 21:31, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
I think the first category is much more easily defined and is best known to belong to Superman as one of his most iconic abilities. How many times does Lex Luthor hide things in lead because Superman can see through the walls of world. I can namea few other characters who have that ability as well, though I don't think Olga Mesmer has her own page yet. CensoredScribe ( talk) 05:20, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Reading over past (and recent) history, Doduf has asserted that Carl Barks' notability confers notability on the articles in question that it's not hurting anyone, and that the article demonstrates notability internally.
All three of these arguments are explicitly spelled out on WP:AADD as invalid, specifically WP:INHERITED, WP:NOHARM and WP:ADDSVALUE. None of these were raised during the AFDs, PRODs or discussion here.
None of the articles that I have seen contain any demonstration of NOTE. The refs point to the work itself, or collections. I can't find any examples (admittedly I only looked at 4) of independent 3rd party mentions, and my google-fu has failed to turn up anything interesting.
I'd suggest a mass AfD unless someone has some independent sources to throw into the mix. As another editor noted, the obvious counterexample would be the asteroid one.
Maury Markowitz ( talk) 19:41, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
This should be easy for at least the major Duck stories—a lot of ink has been spilled on Barks' work. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 21:40, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
All nine pages are now at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sorry to be Safe. Fram ( talk) 09:22, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
I have proposed merging Scorn (Marvel Comics) into Symbiote (comics). Please post your opinion in the discussion. Thank you. Spidey 104 02:12, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi all, I brought something up on the Batman & Son talk page, but I realize that it will get more attention here. As near as I can tell, the actual title for the graphic novel collection uses the word 'and', not an ampersand. (I put some refs for this on the article's talk page.) Per MOS:&, you should only use the ampersand if it is part of a work's title. However, it seems to me that this is not the case for Batman and Son. It's a nit-picky point, but I know some of you are as detail-oriented as I am. I thought I'd bring it up with all of you rather than just being bold and moving the article. Cheers, GentlemanGhost (converse) 01:36, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Um, what's wrong with the link to the official website in the EL section of the MoCCA Festival article? There is indeed a url in the official site link template, but it doesn't show up in the saved article. I tried fiddling with it, and even formatting it a different url, http://www.societyillustrators.org/Mocca_Event.aspx?id=10561, but the same thing happens. Any ideas? Nightscream ( talk) 20:55, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Currently there are two articles for notable costumes worn by superheroes: the Batsuit, and Superman's suit. This is totally understandable, as these two iconic character designs have over 75 years of history behind them. However, many other character designs that could also be researched enough to have their own articles do not. That will soon change, as the Anarky article is in need of another split, and I've worked on a draft for a new Anarky costume article. I've a problem, though. In the absence of a name for a suit such as Batman's and Superman's, there seems to be no standard for what to call such an article. I'm leaning to "(insert name) character design", "Character design of (insert name)", or the slightly longer "Design history of (insert name)", which nicely mirrors the "Publication history of (insert name)" standard that exists now. Any comments would be appreciated, since this issue would seem to be an treading new ground and potentially establishing a new standard for other characters, from Wonder Woman and Captain America, to non-superheroes such as Archie and Tin Tin. -- Cast ( talk) 04:39, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
This navbox was recently created, I'm assuming because of the character's recent appearance in the new Captain America film, but is it really necessary? It is a navbox for a moniker that was once used by Bucky, a supporting character of Captain America. The moniker itself isn't even independently notable from Bucky. Thoughts?-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 15:12, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Does this category properly apply? [25] 2601:D:9400:5FF:88CA:4B8C:7A46:656 ( talk) 07:03, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
I've put the article for Will Eisner's 1978 graphic novel A Contract with God up as a Featured Article Candidate. Everyone is encouraged to participate in the review at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/A Contract with God/archive1. Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 12:47, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
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This reads, to me, like some one has done an essay. All OR, IMHO. 101.177.132.234 ( talk) 13:35, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
I have an issue of Comics Interview which includes reproductions of the pencils from Wolverine volume 2, #1 alongside the finished inked-and-lettered panels. It's occurred to me that scans of these reproductions might be useful to illustrate points in the articles Inker and Al Williamson (who inked that issue). However, Comics Interview uses ink-on-paper production on cheap newsprint, so the reproduction of the pencils is not very good quality. Will these illustrations still suffice until someone finds something better, or should I not bother?-- NukeofEarl ( talk) 18:05, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Many of the Savage Dragon and Spawn character articles have little or no third person sources I am thinking of deleting or merging some of them any thoughts? Dwanyewest ( talk) 23:14, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
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Can other editors weigh in on this discussion regarding this source? We could use others' opinions.
In the Identity Crisis (DC Comics) article, I removed the following passage:
Chris Sims and Matt D. Wilson, contributors to Grantland and the AV Club respectively, as well of Comics Alliance and the War Rocket Ajax podcast, ranked it dead last in their "Every Story Ever" rankings (a subjective list ranking comic story arcs). The War Rocket Ajax podcast
I removed it for the following reasons:
User:173.80.146.108, who is named Rob, responded to my message on his talk page with the following:
Okay, I understand that you don't believe that the "Every Story Ever" list on War Rocket Ajax doesn't meet the guidelines as a secondary source as you believe it is a "fan poscast." Fair enough. I disagree. The War Rocket Ajax podcast is a comic book and pop culture show that is reaching two hundred episodes this upcoming week. It is hosted by two people who, while fans, are also professional writers and comics journalists. Chris Sims is a writer and columnist for the aforementioned Comics Alliance, has written for Grantland - the ESPN/Disney-owned pop culture website, and is a comics creator himself (he is the writer of Sub Atomic Party Girls (a Monkeybrain comic) and has written for the Image comic Skullkickers). Matt Wilson, his co-host, also writes for Comics Alliance, is a regular contributor the The A/V Club, writes comics (Copernicus Jones, on Monkeybrain), and has written two books on comic book culture including The Super-Villains' Handbook. The War Rocket Ajax podcast has an interview every week, usually with a comic creator. Past guests have included Marvel and DC writers Rick Remender, Jonathan Hickman, Jeff Parker, Greg Pak, Jason Aaron, and on multiple occasions Matt Fraction. Based on these factors, the show rises above the level of "fan podcast" and into secondary source, as per the Wikipedia guidelines. As for the list, as noted, it is an arbitrary, subjective ranking of comic book stories and arcs. Listeners submit a story arc and Sims ans Wilson rank it against the previous submissions. This is similar to the WFMU/Best Show/Tom Sharpling "Best Song Ever" ranking, where Mr. Sharpling would rank a given song against a list of other, previously ranked songs, to arrive at a list similar to other "Best song of all time lists," such at the Rolling Stone 500. Including the WRA ranking in this section shows that some critics/journalists consider "Identity Crisis" to be, literally, the worst story of all time.
I believe the reception section, as currently formed, does not fully demonstrate the negative criticism the series has received in the decade since its publication. The specific negative criticism in the section as currently constituted, by Mr. Organ, concerns some of the art - art which he later states he enjoys, tempering his earlier negativity. Including the Comics Alliance quote provides context to the reader. Including the WRA ranking shows that some critics consider the story to be quite poor.
Regarding the War Rocket Ajax, Rob has addressed the issue of that site's reliability, but he hasn't addressed the other two points I raised about that list. Namely, how are those stories ranked? By quality? The issue is not that it's subjective, because all expressions of taste and aesthetics are subjective. The issue is that it isn't clear what exactly that list is a ranking of. Rob says that the WRA ranking indicates that some critics consider IC to be "the worst story of all time", and "quite poor". The problem is, the webpage doesn't say that. How does Rob make this interpretation? The passage claimed that IC was ranked "last" on the list. But while that story does appear last on the list, the list is not indicated to be ranked in any particular order, which is crucial to emphasizing such a thing. Rob, how do you know that that list is one of the worst comics? Again, that list includes Batman: Year One, Daredevil: Born Again, Top Ten: Smax, and the Stan Lee/ Jack Kirby X-Men. How do we know it's a list of poor-quality stories? Who are the critics or readers who contributed to that list?
I have no problem adding to the critical reception section of the article, but there have got to be more prominent sources to use. Why not check Newsarama, Comic Book Resources, Weekly Comic Book Review, iFanboy, The Comics Reporter, IGN, MTV Geek, Entertainment Weekly, Time, Complex, Publisher's Weekly, Ain't it Cool News, etc.? Nightscream ( talk) 12:39, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
When adding material about the writers or artists that influenced a given writer or artist, are we required to restrict ourselves to only those sources in which the creator themselves states who influenced him/her? Or can we include sources in which others present their interpretations to that effect? Up until now, I've restricted myself to the former, but I have an instance here of the latter: In this interview, Gary Groth sees Walter Simonson influence in Todd McFarlane's work. Is it citable?
And if so, are we required to emphasize the claim's attribution in how we word it in the article? In other words, would we have say, "According to Gary Groth, McFarlane shows influence by Walter Simonson."? Or is it okay to simply mention Simonson without saying who made this analysis (which is typically the case in the Infobox, for example). Nightscream ( talk) 17:09, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
This article was recently re-created without any references. It was previously redirected to Ultimates#Headquarters, but that section is no longer there. Should it be redirected elsewhere, deleted or are there enough sources to establish notability?-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 15:06, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
I have decided some articles especially Spawn and Savage Dragon articles should be merged or deleted if you wish to contribute I have started with The Dragon: Blood & Guts, Alex Wilde and Freak Force. Dwanyewest ( talk) 19:43, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Please discuss at Talk:HYDRA#Title and term change. 76.232.28.105 ( talk) 00:11, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Here we go again... would a character being mentioned in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. – but not actually appearing in the show as of yet – merit a mention in the article? My contention is that this is a trivial non-appearance, but I'm specifically trying to avoid edit warring on Griffin per this. 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 18:19, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Can I assume that I'm not the only one who has noticed that Newsarama links seem to invariably go dead, and without any replacement urls? Since Newsarama is such a vital source for information, and such a commonly cited one, is there a way to archive a given url before it goes dead? I've tried using the Wayback Machine to find replacement urls for ones that have gone dead, but sometimes don't find any. I know that there are other comics news sources, but there's not a lot of good ones, and sometimes, it hard or impossible to find reliable ones for a particular bit of info. I'm not too clear on how the Wayback works, but can an archive be made of a given webpage ahead of time? I'd like to do so with this story, which Newarama broke exclusively. I'd rather not rely on Bleeding Cool, whose repeat of the story indicates that it is taken from Newsarama, or Peter David's website, since that's a primary and self-published source. Nightscream ( talk) 18:00, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Is it the best approach to reword a character's power like this, with the only apparent intention being to reduce the total number of words used? To me, "weather resistant" does not explain it as well as it did with a few more words. There is also a talk page discussion at Talk:Storm (Marvel Comics)#Infobox. 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 15:08, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
This wasn't what I thought I remembered, but it does ring some bells as to what I actually read way back when: "Storm tries to control the weather outside, but she is overwhelmed by the unnatural storm. Because her power tries to compensate for climate extremes, Storm’s skin is burning in response to the super blizzard; Xavier uses his powers to help her, despite the concussion he suffered." [30] BOZ ( talk) 05:01, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
As a causal observer, I think the list of powers in the infobox are overly long. They should be trimmed to the character's most commonly recognized powers and further detail should be described in the body of the article. This goes for other character articles as well.-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 18:33, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm sure we have been over this before numerous times, but just as a refresher, is a character being mentioned in a video game, movie or TV show such as this case worth including in an article if the character does not actually make an appearance? 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 15:08, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
I have removed this mention, because Marvelct124 was revealed as a block-evading sock. 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 19:44, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Should the Marvel MAX line be considered an alternate universe, or is this argument correct? 2601:D:9400:448:8537:71C:23A7:60F8 ( talk) 04:28, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
A Request for Comment has been made regarding the appropriate level of generality of article title disambiguation for articles under WikiProject Comics. Please join the discussion here. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 21:20, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
This is just a notice that there is a requested move at Talk:Hydra (Marvel Comics)#Requested move.--23:32, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
Please comment at Talk:Man-Thing#Failure of WP:NOR, WP:ORIGINALSYN, and WP:V. 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 21:39, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
I will comment there too, but just so the project watchers know as a heads up, "Man-Thing" gets a shout out from Maria Hill in the new Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episode (it's in the preview released on their Facebook page), so, once again, people will undoubtable try to add that, when it is just a simple, irrelevant, Easter Egg mention. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 02:59, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
Is a non-appearance like this worth mentioning or is it too trivial? [31] 68.57.234.114 ( talk) 05:10, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
A revised Request for Comment has been made regarding the policy compliance of title disambiguation for articles under WikiProject Comics. Please join the discussion here (original here). Curly Turkey ( gobble) 23:48, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
The website Artbomb.net is under review by WP:A&M as a potential reliable source for manga reviews. As there is potential for this to be a reliable source for comic reviews as well, I though to ping this group for their own evaluations. The discussion is at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga#Artbomb.net reliable source? 24.149.117.220 ( talk) 23:15, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
I stumbled on this article Bananaman (radio show). I was just looking at this article's sources and the only one it has seems to refer to the TV show not the radio one. The article says that it starred Christien Pritchard as Elaine and Simon Harris as Gareth but there are no characters with such name in the Bananaman comic strip on which I assumed this radio show was based. So I am not sure whether this radio show existed and if it did whether it has any connection with the comic strip which the disambiguation article claims it does. Eopsid ( talk) 20:38, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
I forget if we have covered this specific instance here before, but at the end of The Amazing Spider-Man 2, there is an appearance of a set of mechanical tentacles and a set of wings, which are most likely references to Doctor Octopus and Vulture. I do believe these count as trivial non-appearances in terms of mentioning in each character's articles, and thusly I don't think they have any reason to be mentioned there.
While we have been at it so frequently lately, it might be a good idea for the project to draft an "in other media" guideline so that people can clearly see what is and is not acceptable for that section. 129.33.19.254 ( talk) 17:59, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
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I'm not a member of this project, but I noticed that User:24.139.148.54 has made a number of edits to infoboxes, replacing the bullets with <br>. Is this the preferred method? To me the bullets look more readable, making it clear that it isn't just a block of text with poor punctuation and grammar (compare [32] to [33]), but I didn't want to revert all the edits if there was consensus for this change. — Ost ( talk) 20:18, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Anyone who is interested in discussing whether the following Satan (Spawn), God (Spawn), Disciple (Image Comics), Redeemer (Image Comics) should be deleted or saved any contributions would be appreciated. Dwanyewest ( talk) 00:32, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Oh I forgot
Cy-Gor
Dwanyewest (
talk) 21:07, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi, there's an RfC going on regarding Sonic the Hedgehog characters keeping their articles. It's here. I'm personally opposed to most of the proposed merges, but I figured I'd mention it to you all to get some wider perspective, i.e. from outside the Video games project, as that doesn't seem to be happening organically. And, hey, they're also characters in the Sonic comics and as such belong to this project too. Tezero ( talk) 17:22, 21 May 2014 (UTC)