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Dot Esports is currently listed under "reliable", but are we certain that's accurate? A recent featured article candidate had to remove all references to the website before it was passable. Should it be moved to situational/unreliable to not blindside people that check this page when writing high-quality articles? Anarchyte ( talk) 06:11, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Dot Esports are weird! Surprisingly niche, but very well-established in that niche. To just name a few to give you a sample of their pedigree, they are regularly quoted by Reuters ( 1, 2), Wired, Polygon, and PC Gamer. A former writer for ESPN, Jacob Wolf, made an appearance in The Washington Post for moving from ESPN to Dot Esports. You can even see some of his writing on League for ESPN in the Gameplay section of my nomination :)The writing is absolutely fine, very accurate when it comes to League-related stuff; I can't speak for the rest of the site. It was a really useful resource and I think that, in being forced to remove them, it made the article overall a little weaker than it was before. At the same time, the site is a mess: their About page is essentially only reachable by typing in the URL. There's no ethical page on their site. But they do have writers with good pedigree who produce good work (again, for League of Legends-related stuff). I don't think it's suitable for FA candidates, but acknowledge the disadvantages of ruling it out. Situational seems a good idea; reviewers should try and make a determination about whether the information is accurate at GA. At FA, it’s too junky... we should revisit this in a year or so. — ImaginesTigers ( talk) 02:41, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
"dotesports" or "dot esports"and got only 168 results. Most aren't reputable sites. A few are, but they're also just crediting Dot Esports for the tip or showing a tweet, like Engadget. I found one case of a source relying on original reporting from Dot Esports— this GameSpot article—but it's by a freelancer so not reliable. As far as I'm concerned, this site doesn't meet WP:REPUTABLE. Woodroar ( talk) 03:49, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
X cites Dot Esports because they do good journalismfrom
X cites Y but thanks Dot Esports for finding it first, and virtually every citation is the latter, unfortunately. Woodroar ( talk) 04:43, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
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According to its Wikipedia article, Games Domain was famous before going defunct. However, the source is a dead Business Wire source, so I don't know how accurate that is. The main reason I am asking is that I about to work on the article for Fallout and Games Domain has an interesting review of the game. Is Games Domain a reliable source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lazman321 ( talk • contribs)
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Taking the temperature on Fanbyte.com. EIC is Danielle Riendeau (former reviews editor at Polygon.com, managing editor at Vice Waypoint) and the About page is full of familiar names with bylines at other RS (e.g. Imran Khan, Steven Strom, merritt k, etc.). Axem Titanium ( talk) 03:25, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
I don’t see why not. The EiC is clearly a qualified and experienced journalist, and the other writers’ credentials speak for themselves. Haleth ( talk) 02:07, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
I've been seeing some quality stuff coming from them too. I'd want to understand more about their editorial policy. But I'm a soft supporter of putting them on the reliable list, ideally with a few more editors who have experience to say one way or another. Shooterwalker ( talk) 16:07, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Situational seems like a fair assessment to me. It would have helped knowing about its editorial policy, rather than having just an About page, so I have doubts considering all of the site to be reliable. However, there are certainly many credible journalists to be found there. At the very least, one should establish the credentials of an article's author before citing it. Free Media Kid$ 09:26, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
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Looks like a self-published blog to me. Only used three times so far, on the specific subject of the ZX Spectrum Vega+. Opinions? - X201 ( talk) 07:31, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
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I am a little surprised to see that Total Games Network is not on this list of sources. I should not be, though, as it was a relatively short-lived magazine and website that only existed from at least 1998 to 2006. Total Games Network, also known by its website domain, TotalGames.net, was founded and published by the accredited Paragon Publishing until 2003, when Highbury House acquired it to form Highbury Entertainment. The publication continued to run until 2006, when Highbury Entertainment itself was purchased by Imagine Publishing, after which the website presumably was shut down. Descent II is the article in which I learned of the website—and the one I am preparing for GA. My judgement on the publication defaults to it being a reliable source due to the reputations of its publishers, and I am confident in that guess unless someone here offers a valid objection. Free Media Kid! 04:05, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
When I was searching for more citations to add to Bloons TD 6, I have noticed some articles on Gamepur. I am not quite sure how I should approach this website. Re liable or not reliable? Qwertyxp2000 ( talk | contribs) 01:07, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
I was actually wondering this, too. According to their "About Page", GAMURS Group currently owns Gamepur along with Dot Esports, which is already listed as a reliable source for esports. Apparently a note on Dot Esports states that it “was previously part of The Daily Dot before being sold off to Gamurs,” which in my perspective either implies that Dot Esports is still reliable even as a part of the GAMURS media network, or its affiliation with GAMURS makes it unreliable but it hasn’t been properly checked yet. Personally it seems reliable to me, but I’m admittedly not the wisest wizard at the council when it comes to verifying “reliability.”
PantheonRadiance ( talk) 22:51, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
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Since no discussion has taken place over this site's position as an Unreliable Source since
this discussion in 2016, I feel it is time to revisit its place.
There is still no on-site credential listing for the sites news writers that I can find, which as far as I can tell is the reason for its listing as unreliable from the above discussion. Digging into a few of the individual journalists provides more information about their credentials. Luís "MIRAA" Mira has previously written for SkySports [4]. Tomi "lurppis" Kovanen (who is no longer active on HLTV) has written a guest article on PCGamer [5]. No one else who has made recent contributions seems to have any other credentials, after searching both their names and aliases.
HLTV's reporting and interviews have been used by Reputable sources repeatedly since the last discussion [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]. Their end-of-year player rankings are reported on by multiple reputable sites [11] [12], as are their weekly team rankings [13].
HLTV's event listings are reproduced in CS:GO's Main Menu.
HLTV and/or HLTV writers' work are consistently cited in Wiki articles about CSGO players: S1mple, Allu (gamer), Coldzera, Dev1ce, GeT_RiGhT, NiKo, Olofmeister, Twistzz, GuardiaN, NEO_(gamer).
I think HLTV has enough of a track record to be considered a reliable source in its niche, similar to consensus from this discussion of Dot Esports, but the lack of credentials for all but one of the sites active staff is concerning.
Birko bird ( talk) 09:07, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Introduction: I believe RPGamer is a situational source, not a reliable source. It should only be used for interviews. Here are my reasons why:
Staff credentials: I looked at the staff page and put every staff member (with the exception of those from the podcasting and development section) in both the reliable video game sources search engine and the situational video game sources search engine with RPGamer results being excluded. When a staff member is entered in, the search engine either returns no results or irrelevant results. The closest to a staff member with reliable credentials is Pascal Tekaia, who seems to be an author for Adventure Gamers. Even then, they are most likely not the same person as they have different usernames, different profile picture, different bios, and Pascal's Linkedin page only lists credentials for RPGamer. (Note: We have no way to determine if Pascal wrote the page as Linkedin is a social media site for workers and building up a resume. Anyone can claim to be whoever. However, it does help visualize the problem with Pascal.)
Use by other sources: Inputting RPGamer to the reliable video game sources search engine shows up only three things, irrelevant examples, Metacritic (which cannot be used to determine the reliability of a source), and sources only using RPGamer's interviews including Ars Technica Venture Beat, and IGN. This is why I believe RPGamer should only be used for interviews as that is what other reliable sources seem to be using it for.
Prior discussions: RPGamer is currently listed a "reliable". However, the prior discussions seem to either be inconclusive, [14] [15] [16] or mentioned in passing. [17] [18] [19] [20] Two of the inconclusive discussions of RPGamer seemed to leaning towards the unreliable decision. The other inconclusive discussion asked a question but got no response. Also, sources getting mentioned in passing during discussions are not good determinations of whether or not a source is reliable.
Verdict: Considering the above, I believe that RPGamer should be listed under situational sources and only be used for interviews. I rest my case. Lazman321 ( talk) 03:36, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Hey guys. Is TheNerdist.com, of Nerdist Industries, a WP:RS or not? I came upon this. Thanks! — Smuckola (talk) 20:34, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
I was wondering if https://flipreview.com/ could be used as a reliable source, or maybe as a situational one. I would regard it as unreliable, but I am not quite sure. -- Marcodpat ( talk) 09:37, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
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Siliconera is listed on our sources list as reliable, seemingly based mostly on this discussion from 2015, which elevated it from situational. As per a request on the Rockstar San Diego FAC, this should be re-reviewed. The site is currently owned by Enthusiast Gaming ( Destructoid, Escapist Magazine, etc.), previously by Curse, Inc., and seemingly independent before that. I cannot find an editorial policy, only an about page. Prior to Enthusiast Gaming's buyout in 2019, the writers went only by their first names. I would like to ping the editors previously involved with the discussion cited above: @ GamerPro64, Benlisquare, Masem, Maplestrip, ProtoDrake, and Sergecross73. IceWelder [ ✉] 15:46, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
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Gamers' Republic was a short-lived (1998–2001; 36 issues) monthly gaming magazine released by Millennium Publications with Rider Circulation Services (1998–1999) and Hearst Distribution Group ( Hearst Communications; 1999–2001). It was published by Dave Halverson, who was previously the publisher/EiC for GameFan and later for Play. Both of these already appear on our list as reliable. The EiC for Gamers' Republic was David S. J. Hodgson, who had been the senior writer for GameFan and the deputy EiC for Official Nintendo Magazine before that. I cannot find an editorial policy outlined in the actual magazines (which is not uncommon) but there is a mission statement in the first issue on page 4. The magazine also had a website, gamersrepublic.com, which has unfortunately become unusable after the shutdown of Adobe Flash. Some articles are backed up in the Wayback Machine and on Xtreme Video Games. IceWelder [ ✉] 15:46, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
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I wanted to inquire more about this site and whether or not it still counts as unreliable. The last discussion I found which mentioned Nintendo Enthusiast as an unreliable source was from 2016, which didn't discuss the website too much besides it being “another enthusiast blog.” While I’m unsure if it could still be considered that 5 years later, I did see that Enthusiast Gaming apparently owns the website, so it’s in the same group alongside Destructoid and Siliconera. Their articles, while not entirely spectacular, do have a decent amount of accuracy from what I’ve seen - it’s not clickbait or deliberately false information. I don’t think it deserves to be considered truly reliable, but I also see some potential in the source, enough for it to be considered situationally reliable for basic Nintendo gaming info. What do you guys think? PantheonRadiance ( talk) 05:45, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Was wondering about Game Rant? There have been three discussions but they are all over a half-decade old at this point ( 2010, 2015, 2016).
I almost want to disregard the 2010 discussion, just because of how dated it is, particularly in the contexts of the Internet and video game journalism. The 2015 discussion was brief but actually leaned in support of GR somewhat, and the 2016 discussion was similarly brief to the 2015 one, with a lean against GR this time.
However, despite GR being listed as unreliable, I've found it on an incredibly high amount of VG articles, including some high profile ones (see: Pokémon, Capcom, Esports)—and also good articles (see: Tomb Raider, Nier: Automata, Batman: Arkham Origins) and even a featured article ( Final Fantasy XIII).
I checked out how the sourcing was used and it seemed to be varying; there were times it was used to cite awards results (Tomb Raider), release dates (FF XIII) or release version details (Nier), gameplay details (Arkham Origins), commercial sales results (Capcom), etc.
I figure if we're using it on high-profile articles, and particularly on higher-quality ones, we should either list it under the reliable list, or have a discussion and reconfirm it as unreliable and change out the sourcing on the articles that use it.
As far as I can see, it's a solid source and I would be in support of having it under the reliable listing. Soulbust ( talk) 05:48, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
"gamerant" or "game rant"in Google News and got 77,500 results, which seems like a lot. But after excluding results from Valnet properties (Game Rant, Screen Rant, The Gamer, CBR, and Valnet Inc), that dropped to 309 results. It's an absolute walled garden. And even looking through those 309 results, I didn't see any that I'd consider particularly reputable. The fact that nobody involved has a background in games journalism and that legitimate games journalists don't widely cite them says to me that they don't meet WP:REPUTABLE. Woodroar ( talk) 03:15, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
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Pocket Gamer was listed as a defunct print publication by Imagine. It has been moved back to platform specific as an active source as the website is (and has been) still alive.
However, I'm confident these are two completely separate things. The discussions linked appear to be about the website, owned by Steele Media. This should be cleared up. Are we trusting the defunct (one time?) print by Imagine, or the Steel Media website? I see nothing that indicates they are related, but they are combined currently. -- ferret ( talk) 17:24, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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This source sparked some discussion at FA, so I went ahead and removed it to be safe. That said, some of their coverage is genuinely helpful. Their editorial policy isn't clearly stated, but I believe the editor is also a writer at GameSpot and IGN. I'm wondering if people have any other experience with this source and its overall quality. Tagging Soulbust as he raised this for discussion previously, and received no replies. I hope we get a clearer answer this time. Shooterwalker ( talk) 21:04, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
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I've just used this site as a source for an article, but there appears to have been zero discussion as to whether it's reliable. A cursory glance shows they have a team of 30, with a mix of editors, interns, freelancers and "free authors" (freelance writers?). There does seem to be some clickbait-style quizzes, and their articles seem to end with clickbait-style "related articles" listicle articles. So is it reliable? CiphriusKane ( talk) 18:40, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello, wondering if I can get some thoughts on the reliability of Gaming Boulevard. It's used on a few articles but isn't listed at WP:VGRS one way or another. I'm neither pushing for it nor against it but figured I'd get the ball rolling.
Thanks for having a look guys. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 20:10, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Major League Gaming is currently listed as a situational source. However, both discussions on the topic claim that it should be situational as it should not be used to demonstrate notability. In general, a source may be completely reliable without the capability to be used to establish notability. Perhaps this source should be moved to "Primary/affiliate sources"? — Pbrks ( talk) 23:24, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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Console Obsession has been regarded as an unreliable source about 10 years ago. However, many time has passed since, and only one user was against its use. Should we still disregard this site or not? -- Marcodpat ( talk) 14:28, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
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Anecdotally, I've seen only high-quality articles from this source. Solid management team: Sean Morrison (former ESPN associate editor), Tyler Erzberger (former ESPN senior writer), and Colin McNeil (former CBS contributing writer). Editorial/ethics policy can be found in the Letter from the Editor. IMO should be considered reliable. — Pbrks ( talk) 14:58, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Sportskeeda is a news agency founded more than a decade ago. This website provides sports news, alongwith Esports and video game news. It seems pretty reliable to me.
I propose it to be added as a reliable source for video games. Aaditya.abh ( talk) 09:26, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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This is another thing I’ve been meaning to get off my chest for a while now. Besides a two-response discussion which merely dismissed the source as "click-bait" and a mildly substantial Request for Comment, it still seems a bit unclear to me why Dexerto is considered an unreliable source. I'll abstain from expressing my position, but I wanted to generate a more thorough discussion and a proper analysis of the source. So I'll just ask a few basic questions for now.
PantheonRadiance ( talk) 04:50, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
I don't consider it a reliable source, it often sensationalizes not just in it's titles (the "click-bait" your referring to) but also its articles, often relying exclusively on tweets and then adding sensationalized commentary.
The comparison to Huffington Post isn't legitimate as Huffington Post is far more reliable in it's article content and is even less sensationalized in its titles.
Corinal ( talk) 10:46, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
AFK Gaming provides news regarding various eSports events and news. It seems pretty reliable to me. It provides latest coverage on Esports tournaments and events and also does interviews of various Esports personalities. I propose it to be added as a reliable source. Aaditya.abh ( talk) 04:32, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Proof URL: https://archive.esportsobserver.com/author/shounak/
Nishant Patel: https://archive.esportsobserver.com/author/nishant/ Vignesh Raghuram: https://archive.esportsobserver.com/author/vignesh_raghuram/
I need to use AFK Gaming as a source for my edits. So is there any way iy could happen. Aaditya.abh ( talk) 14:59, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Was curious if GAMINGbible could be considered source? They take some submitted content which they upload monthly and are affiliated with LADbible which has had reliability issues in the past, but their core editorial staff have some notable prior credits. Their head of content Mike Diver has credits working at Vice Gamimg, the BBC Gaming show and some published books on video game history, and other staff members on their editorial team include Imogen Calypso Mellor who acted as the official host for GDC this year and worked prior as a staff writer at PCGamesN, Julian Benson who acted as deputy editor at PCGamesN and a news editor at Kotaku UK. They're definitely still an up-and-coming site but maybe enough reputable editorial staff to be reliable for editorial content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a00:23c6:8281:a501:c560:1e3b:5013:4656 ( talk) 12:59, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Isn't TheGamer should be also listed as a reliable source in Wikipedia:VG/Sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.149.105.32 ( talk) 23:25, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
It seems Comptiq.com is offline and the wayback archive has not archived it since 2013. Does anyone know if the print magazine is still available, if not, we can probably just remove it from the list or move it to the defunct section. Kidburla ( talk) 11:17, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
indiegames.com now redirects to indiegamesplus.com. Is it the same website and can be cited as a reliable source, or is it now a totally new website in which case has to go through review again? Kidburla ( talk) 11:22, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
There have been two prior threads mentioning LoL Esports ( 1, 2), and its current status is that it is considered unreliable. The website owned by Riot Games, the owner of LoL, so I don't know why the reliability would be in question. I believe it should be under "Primary/affiliate sources". Am I correct in this assessment or am I missing something here? – Pbrks ( t • c) 21:48, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Pocket Gamer and TouchArcade are listed for use with "Handheld games" and "Mobile game news" respectively. Does this scope of use include the Nintendo Switch? Loosely speaking, the Switch could be considered a handheld gaming platform or mobile gaming platform, but I'm not convinced that this is what the WikiProject article is trying to say. Both Pocket Gamer and TouchArcade do cover the Nintendo Switch, but I'm not sure if it's acceptable to use their coverage as reliable sources. Kidburla ( talk) 18:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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Was discussed back in 2016. The two discussions in 2021 got no comments. I agree with most things said in the seconds discussion,
here (even though the editor is blocked :p), apart from "HLTV's event listings are reproduced in CS:GO's Main Menu"
. The link is broken and I haven't been able to re-create it in any way. Perhaps we should take a look at this site again?
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Introducing CS:GO Events: players can now see an HLTV-provided schedule of professional LAN events in the Watch tab.I was actually planning on bringing this site up. I'm not so sure about their written content, but I think it is a fine resource for match results. – Pbrks ( t • c) 15:17, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
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I am frequently seeing Game World Observer requested as a news source. It is the English-language sister site to the Russian-language App2Top.ru. They were founded in 2018 and 2011, respectively, and are part of WN Media Group since 2019. Game World Observer is presently used in 15 articles, App2Top.ru in in 8. I couldn't immediately find any editorial policy or even a staff page on any of the three involved entities. IceWelder [ ✉] 10:04, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi, can we discuss updating/clarifying the restriction on the use of Nintendo Life? The current restriction that "for editorial content, author reliability is needed" has been there since the entry was first added to the table in 2011. I'm not sure it is justified by the talk page discussions (at least, not those which took place prior to that date). I don't find any evidence from the talk page discussions that anyone proposed that author reliability is needed or defined what that meant.
I have seen some people basically regarding this restriction as talking about article reliability (in other words, if it's backed by a good primary source then it's okay), but I disagree because the restriction is specifically about author reliability. It goes on to say that Damien McFerran has written for various publications and therefore we assume articles written by him are supported by his credentials, but what about the other authors who write for Nintendo Life? It's often not clear and very much open to interpretation about whether particular authors are "reliable". For example, Ryan Craddock is a common author of Nintendo Life articles, but I couldn't find evidence he has written for other publications. Having said that, the articles which he writes are, in my experience, generally accurate. If we are really going to keep this restriction based on "author reliability", I would hope to see some consensus on exactly which authors we consider to be reliable, otherwise we are going to have inconsistency across Wikipedia on what Nintendo Life sources are okay or not okay for the purpose of verifiability and especially for notability.
I would also note that neither Push Square or Pure Xbox have the same restriction on them. These two websites are run by the same people as Nintendo Life and it would make sense that the editorial reliability would be pretty much the same across all three websites. Kidburla ( talk) 19:48, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
To aid the discussion, here are a few options of how we could resolve this. Feel free to propose your own.
Kidburla ( talk) 11:24, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
As this topic has been here over a week and we seem to have reached a consensus to remove the restriction, with no dissent, I've gone ahead and removed the restriction from the page. Kidburla ( talk) 00:14, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
I've opened a deletion discussion about video game voice actor Quinton Flynn, a keep voter has cited a 2016 article in Nerd Reactor as contributing in their notability. I've only found a single person discussing it in the archives Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources/Archive_10#A_few_sites_for_Freedom_Planet,_a_future_GAN, which seems pretty mixed. The other sources cited include Niche Gamer, which has been judged to be generally unreliable here, as well as Bounding into Comics, a reactionary pro- comicsgate publication that got a mixed-negative reception at RSN Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_293#The_Reliability_of_"Bounding_into_Comics". Hemiauchenia ( talk) 23:21, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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Dot Esports is currently listed under "reliable", but are we certain that's accurate? A recent featured article candidate had to remove all references to the website before it was passable. Should it be moved to situational/unreliable to not blindside people that check this page when writing high-quality articles? Anarchyte ( talk) 06:11, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Dot Esports are weird! Surprisingly niche, but very well-established in that niche. To just name a few to give you a sample of their pedigree, they are regularly quoted by Reuters ( 1, 2), Wired, Polygon, and PC Gamer. A former writer for ESPN, Jacob Wolf, made an appearance in The Washington Post for moving from ESPN to Dot Esports. You can even see some of his writing on League for ESPN in the Gameplay section of my nomination :)The writing is absolutely fine, very accurate when it comes to League-related stuff; I can't speak for the rest of the site. It was a really useful resource and I think that, in being forced to remove them, it made the article overall a little weaker than it was before. At the same time, the site is a mess: their About page is essentially only reachable by typing in the URL. There's no ethical page on their site. But they do have writers with good pedigree who produce good work (again, for League of Legends-related stuff). I don't think it's suitable for FA candidates, but acknowledge the disadvantages of ruling it out. Situational seems a good idea; reviewers should try and make a determination about whether the information is accurate at GA. At FA, it’s too junky... we should revisit this in a year or so. — ImaginesTigers ( talk) 02:41, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
"dotesports" or "dot esports"and got only 168 results. Most aren't reputable sites. A few are, but they're also just crediting Dot Esports for the tip or showing a tweet, like Engadget. I found one case of a source relying on original reporting from Dot Esports— this GameSpot article—but it's by a freelancer so not reliable. As far as I'm concerned, this site doesn't meet WP:REPUTABLE. Woodroar ( talk) 03:49, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
X cites Dot Esports because they do good journalismfrom
X cites Y but thanks Dot Esports for finding it first, and virtually every citation is the latter, unfortunately. Woodroar ( talk) 04:43, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
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According to its Wikipedia article, Games Domain was famous before going defunct. However, the source is a dead Business Wire source, so I don't know how accurate that is. The main reason I am asking is that I about to work on the article for Fallout and Games Domain has an interesting review of the game. Is Games Domain a reliable source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lazman321 ( talk • contribs)
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Taking the temperature on Fanbyte.com. EIC is Danielle Riendeau (former reviews editor at Polygon.com, managing editor at Vice Waypoint) and the About page is full of familiar names with bylines at other RS (e.g. Imran Khan, Steven Strom, merritt k, etc.). Axem Titanium ( talk) 03:25, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
I don’t see why not. The EiC is clearly a qualified and experienced journalist, and the other writers’ credentials speak for themselves. Haleth ( talk) 02:07, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
I've been seeing some quality stuff coming from them too. I'd want to understand more about their editorial policy. But I'm a soft supporter of putting them on the reliable list, ideally with a few more editors who have experience to say one way or another. Shooterwalker ( talk) 16:07, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Situational seems like a fair assessment to me. It would have helped knowing about its editorial policy, rather than having just an About page, so I have doubts considering all of the site to be reliable. However, there are certainly many credible journalists to be found there. At the very least, one should establish the credentials of an article's author before citing it. Free Media Kid$ 09:26, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
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Looks like a self-published blog to me. Only used three times so far, on the specific subject of the ZX Spectrum Vega+. Opinions? - X201 ( talk) 07:31, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
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I am a little surprised to see that Total Games Network is not on this list of sources. I should not be, though, as it was a relatively short-lived magazine and website that only existed from at least 1998 to 2006. Total Games Network, also known by its website domain, TotalGames.net, was founded and published by the accredited Paragon Publishing until 2003, when Highbury House acquired it to form Highbury Entertainment. The publication continued to run until 2006, when Highbury Entertainment itself was purchased by Imagine Publishing, after which the website presumably was shut down. Descent II is the article in which I learned of the website—and the one I am preparing for GA. My judgement on the publication defaults to it being a reliable source due to the reputations of its publishers, and I am confident in that guess unless someone here offers a valid objection. Free Media Kid! 04:05, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
When I was searching for more citations to add to Bloons TD 6, I have noticed some articles on Gamepur. I am not quite sure how I should approach this website. Re liable or not reliable? Qwertyxp2000 ( talk | contribs) 01:07, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
I was actually wondering this, too. According to their "About Page", GAMURS Group currently owns Gamepur along with Dot Esports, which is already listed as a reliable source for esports. Apparently a note on Dot Esports states that it “was previously part of The Daily Dot before being sold off to Gamurs,” which in my perspective either implies that Dot Esports is still reliable even as a part of the GAMURS media network, or its affiliation with GAMURS makes it unreliable but it hasn’t been properly checked yet. Personally it seems reliable to me, but I’m admittedly not the wisest wizard at the council when it comes to verifying “reliability.”
PantheonRadiance ( talk) 22:51, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
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Since no discussion has taken place over this site's position as an Unreliable Source since
this discussion in 2016, I feel it is time to revisit its place.
There is still no on-site credential listing for the sites news writers that I can find, which as far as I can tell is the reason for its listing as unreliable from the above discussion. Digging into a few of the individual journalists provides more information about their credentials. Luís "MIRAA" Mira has previously written for SkySports [4]. Tomi "lurppis" Kovanen (who is no longer active on HLTV) has written a guest article on PCGamer [5]. No one else who has made recent contributions seems to have any other credentials, after searching both their names and aliases.
HLTV's reporting and interviews have been used by Reputable sources repeatedly since the last discussion [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]. Their end-of-year player rankings are reported on by multiple reputable sites [11] [12], as are their weekly team rankings [13].
HLTV's event listings are reproduced in CS:GO's Main Menu.
HLTV and/or HLTV writers' work are consistently cited in Wiki articles about CSGO players: S1mple, Allu (gamer), Coldzera, Dev1ce, GeT_RiGhT, NiKo, Olofmeister, Twistzz, GuardiaN, NEO_(gamer).
I think HLTV has enough of a track record to be considered a reliable source in its niche, similar to consensus from this discussion of Dot Esports, but the lack of credentials for all but one of the sites active staff is concerning.
Birko bird ( talk) 09:07, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Introduction: I believe RPGamer is a situational source, not a reliable source. It should only be used for interviews. Here are my reasons why:
Staff credentials: I looked at the staff page and put every staff member (with the exception of those from the podcasting and development section) in both the reliable video game sources search engine and the situational video game sources search engine with RPGamer results being excluded. When a staff member is entered in, the search engine either returns no results or irrelevant results. The closest to a staff member with reliable credentials is Pascal Tekaia, who seems to be an author for Adventure Gamers. Even then, they are most likely not the same person as they have different usernames, different profile picture, different bios, and Pascal's Linkedin page only lists credentials for RPGamer. (Note: We have no way to determine if Pascal wrote the page as Linkedin is a social media site for workers and building up a resume. Anyone can claim to be whoever. However, it does help visualize the problem with Pascal.)
Use by other sources: Inputting RPGamer to the reliable video game sources search engine shows up only three things, irrelevant examples, Metacritic (which cannot be used to determine the reliability of a source), and sources only using RPGamer's interviews including Ars Technica Venture Beat, and IGN. This is why I believe RPGamer should only be used for interviews as that is what other reliable sources seem to be using it for.
Prior discussions: RPGamer is currently listed a "reliable". However, the prior discussions seem to either be inconclusive, [14] [15] [16] or mentioned in passing. [17] [18] [19] [20] Two of the inconclusive discussions of RPGamer seemed to leaning towards the unreliable decision. The other inconclusive discussion asked a question but got no response. Also, sources getting mentioned in passing during discussions are not good determinations of whether or not a source is reliable.
Verdict: Considering the above, I believe that RPGamer should be listed under situational sources and only be used for interviews. I rest my case. Lazman321 ( talk) 03:36, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Hey guys. Is TheNerdist.com, of Nerdist Industries, a WP:RS or not? I came upon this. Thanks! — Smuckola (talk) 20:34, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
I was wondering if https://flipreview.com/ could be used as a reliable source, or maybe as a situational one. I would regard it as unreliable, but I am not quite sure. -- Marcodpat ( talk) 09:37, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
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Siliconera is listed on our sources list as reliable, seemingly based mostly on this discussion from 2015, which elevated it from situational. As per a request on the Rockstar San Diego FAC, this should be re-reviewed. The site is currently owned by Enthusiast Gaming ( Destructoid, Escapist Magazine, etc.), previously by Curse, Inc., and seemingly independent before that. I cannot find an editorial policy, only an about page. Prior to Enthusiast Gaming's buyout in 2019, the writers went only by their first names. I would like to ping the editors previously involved with the discussion cited above: @ GamerPro64, Benlisquare, Masem, Maplestrip, ProtoDrake, and Sergecross73. IceWelder [ ✉] 15:46, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
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Gamers' Republic was a short-lived (1998–2001; 36 issues) monthly gaming magazine released by Millennium Publications with Rider Circulation Services (1998–1999) and Hearst Distribution Group ( Hearst Communications; 1999–2001). It was published by Dave Halverson, who was previously the publisher/EiC for GameFan and later for Play. Both of these already appear on our list as reliable. The EiC for Gamers' Republic was David S. J. Hodgson, who had been the senior writer for GameFan and the deputy EiC for Official Nintendo Magazine before that. I cannot find an editorial policy outlined in the actual magazines (which is not uncommon) but there is a mission statement in the first issue on page 4. The magazine also had a website, gamersrepublic.com, which has unfortunately become unusable after the shutdown of Adobe Flash. Some articles are backed up in the Wayback Machine and on Xtreme Video Games. IceWelder [ ✉] 15:46, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
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I wanted to inquire more about this site and whether or not it still counts as unreliable. The last discussion I found which mentioned Nintendo Enthusiast as an unreliable source was from 2016, which didn't discuss the website too much besides it being “another enthusiast blog.” While I’m unsure if it could still be considered that 5 years later, I did see that Enthusiast Gaming apparently owns the website, so it’s in the same group alongside Destructoid and Siliconera. Their articles, while not entirely spectacular, do have a decent amount of accuracy from what I’ve seen - it’s not clickbait or deliberately false information. I don’t think it deserves to be considered truly reliable, but I also see some potential in the source, enough for it to be considered situationally reliable for basic Nintendo gaming info. What do you guys think? PantheonRadiance ( talk) 05:45, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Was wondering about Game Rant? There have been three discussions but they are all over a half-decade old at this point ( 2010, 2015, 2016).
I almost want to disregard the 2010 discussion, just because of how dated it is, particularly in the contexts of the Internet and video game journalism. The 2015 discussion was brief but actually leaned in support of GR somewhat, and the 2016 discussion was similarly brief to the 2015 one, with a lean against GR this time.
However, despite GR being listed as unreliable, I've found it on an incredibly high amount of VG articles, including some high profile ones (see: Pokémon, Capcom, Esports)—and also good articles (see: Tomb Raider, Nier: Automata, Batman: Arkham Origins) and even a featured article ( Final Fantasy XIII).
I checked out how the sourcing was used and it seemed to be varying; there were times it was used to cite awards results (Tomb Raider), release dates (FF XIII) or release version details (Nier), gameplay details (Arkham Origins), commercial sales results (Capcom), etc.
I figure if we're using it on high-profile articles, and particularly on higher-quality ones, we should either list it under the reliable list, or have a discussion and reconfirm it as unreliable and change out the sourcing on the articles that use it.
As far as I can see, it's a solid source and I would be in support of having it under the reliable listing. Soulbust ( talk) 05:48, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
"gamerant" or "game rant"in Google News and got 77,500 results, which seems like a lot. But after excluding results from Valnet properties (Game Rant, Screen Rant, The Gamer, CBR, and Valnet Inc), that dropped to 309 results. It's an absolute walled garden. And even looking through those 309 results, I didn't see any that I'd consider particularly reputable. The fact that nobody involved has a background in games journalism and that legitimate games journalists don't widely cite them says to me that they don't meet WP:REPUTABLE. Woodroar ( talk) 03:15, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
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Listed at WP:CR. Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 15:28, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
Pocket Gamer was listed as a defunct print publication by Imagine. It has been moved back to platform specific as an active source as the website is (and has been) still alive.
However, I'm confident these are two completely separate things. The discussions linked appear to be about the website, owned by Steele Media. This should be cleared up. Are we trusting the defunct (one time?) print by Imagine, or the Steel Media website? I see nothing that indicates they are related, but they are combined currently. -- ferret ( talk) 17:24, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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This source sparked some discussion at FA, so I went ahead and removed it to be safe. That said, some of their coverage is genuinely helpful. Their editorial policy isn't clearly stated, but I believe the editor is also a writer at GameSpot and IGN. I'm wondering if people have any other experience with this source and its overall quality. Tagging Soulbust as he raised this for discussion previously, and received no replies. I hope we get a clearer answer this time. Shooterwalker ( talk) 21:04, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
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I've just used this site as a source for an article, but there appears to have been zero discussion as to whether it's reliable. A cursory glance shows they have a team of 30, with a mix of editors, interns, freelancers and "free authors" (freelance writers?). There does seem to be some clickbait-style quizzes, and their articles seem to end with clickbait-style "related articles" listicle articles. So is it reliable? CiphriusKane ( talk) 18:40, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello, wondering if I can get some thoughts on the reliability of Gaming Boulevard. It's used on a few articles but isn't listed at WP:VGRS one way or another. I'm neither pushing for it nor against it but figured I'd get the ball rolling.
Thanks for having a look guys. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 20:10, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Major League Gaming is currently listed as a situational source. However, both discussions on the topic claim that it should be situational as it should not be used to demonstrate notability. In general, a source may be completely reliable without the capability to be used to establish notability. Perhaps this source should be moved to "Primary/affiliate sources"? — Pbrks ( talk) 23:24, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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Console Obsession has been regarded as an unreliable source about 10 years ago. However, many time has passed since, and only one user was against its use. Should we still disregard this site or not? -- Marcodpat ( talk) 14:28, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
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Anecdotally, I've seen only high-quality articles from this source. Solid management team: Sean Morrison (former ESPN associate editor), Tyler Erzberger (former ESPN senior writer), and Colin McNeil (former CBS contributing writer). Editorial/ethics policy can be found in the Letter from the Editor. IMO should be considered reliable. — Pbrks ( talk) 14:58, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Sportskeeda is a news agency founded more than a decade ago. This website provides sports news, alongwith Esports and video game news. It seems pretty reliable to me.
I propose it to be added as a reliable source for video games. Aaditya.abh ( talk) 09:26, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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This is another thing I’ve been meaning to get off my chest for a while now. Besides a two-response discussion which merely dismissed the source as "click-bait" and a mildly substantial Request for Comment, it still seems a bit unclear to me why Dexerto is considered an unreliable source. I'll abstain from expressing my position, but I wanted to generate a more thorough discussion and a proper analysis of the source. So I'll just ask a few basic questions for now.
PantheonRadiance ( talk) 04:50, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
I don't consider it a reliable source, it often sensationalizes not just in it's titles (the "click-bait" your referring to) but also its articles, often relying exclusively on tweets and then adding sensationalized commentary.
The comparison to Huffington Post isn't legitimate as Huffington Post is far more reliable in it's article content and is even less sensationalized in its titles.
Corinal ( talk) 10:46, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
AFK Gaming provides news regarding various eSports events and news. It seems pretty reliable to me. It provides latest coverage on Esports tournaments and events and also does interviews of various Esports personalities. I propose it to be added as a reliable source. Aaditya.abh ( talk) 04:32, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Proof URL: https://archive.esportsobserver.com/author/shounak/
Nishant Patel: https://archive.esportsobserver.com/author/nishant/ Vignesh Raghuram: https://archive.esportsobserver.com/author/vignesh_raghuram/
I need to use AFK Gaming as a source for my edits. So is there any way iy could happen. Aaditya.abh ( talk) 14:59, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Was curious if GAMINGbible could be considered source? They take some submitted content which they upload monthly and are affiliated with LADbible which has had reliability issues in the past, but their core editorial staff have some notable prior credits. Their head of content Mike Diver has credits working at Vice Gamimg, the BBC Gaming show and some published books on video game history, and other staff members on their editorial team include Imogen Calypso Mellor who acted as the official host for GDC this year and worked prior as a staff writer at PCGamesN, Julian Benson who acted as deputy editor at PCGamesN and a news editor at Kotaku UK. They're definitely still an up-and-coming site but maybe enough reputable editorial staff to be reliable for editorial content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a00:23c6:8281:a501:c560:1e3b:5013:4656 ( talk) 12:59, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Isn't TheGamer should be also listed as a reliable source in Wikipedia:VG/Sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.149.105.32 ( talk) 23:25, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
It seems Comptiq.com is offline and the wayback archive has not archived it since 2013. Does anyone know if the print magazine is still available, if not, we can probably just remove it from the list or move it to the defunct section. Kidburla ( talk) 11:17, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
indiegames.com now redirects to indiegamesplus.com. Is it the same website and can be cited as a reliable source, or is it now a totally new website in which case has to go through review again? Kidburla ( talk) 11:22, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
There have been two prior threads mentioning LoL Esports ( 1, 2), and its current status is that it is considered unreliable. The website owned by Riot Games, the owner of LoL, so I don't know why the reliability would be in question. I believe it should be under "Primary/affiliate sources". Am I correct in this assessment or am I missing something here? – Pbrks ( t • c) 21:48, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Pocket Gamer and TouchArcade are listed for use with "Handheld games" and "Mobile game news" respectively. Does this scope of use include the Nintendo Switch? Loosely speaking, the Switch could be considered a handheld gaming platform or mobile gaming platform, but I'm not convinced that this is what the WikiProject article is trying to say. Both Pocket Gamer and TouchArcade do cover the Nintendo Switch, but I'm not sure if it's acceptable to use their coverage as reliable sources. Kidburla ( talk) 18:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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Was discussed back in 2016. The two discussions in 2021 got no comments. I agree with most things said in the seconds discussion,
here (even though the editor is blocked :p), apart from "HLTV's event listings are reproduced in CS:GO's Main Menu"
. The link is broken and I haven't been able to re-create it in any way. Perhaps we should take a look at this site again?
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Introducing CS:GO Events: players can now see an HLTV-provided schedule of professional LAN events in the Watch tab.I was actually planning on bringing this site up. I'm not so sure about their written content, but I think it is a fine resource for match results. – Pbrks ( t • c) 15:17, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
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I am frequently seeing Game World Observer requested as a news source. It is the English-language sister site to the Russian-language App2Top.ru. They were founded in 2018 and 2011, respectively, and are part of WN Media Group since 2019. Game World Observer is presently used in 15 articles, App2Top.ru in in 8. I couldn't immediately find any editorial policy or even a staff page on any of the three involved entities. IceWelder [ ✉] 10:04, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi, can we discuss updating/clarifying the restriction on the use of Nintendo Life? The current restriction that "for editorial content, author reliability is needed" has been there since the entry was first added to the table in 2011. I'm not sure it is justified by the talk page discussions (at least, not those which took place prior to that date). I don't find any evidence from the talk page discussions that anyone proposed that author reliability is needed or defined what that meant.
I have seen some people basically regarding this restriction as talking about article reliability (in other words, if it's backed by a good primary source then it's okay), but I disagree because the restriction is specifically about author reliability. It goes on to say that Damien McFerran has written for various publications and therefore we assume articles written by him are supported by his credentials, but what about the other authors who write for Nintendo Life? It's often not clear and very much open to interpretation about whether particular authors are "reliable". For example, Ryan Craddock is a common author of Nintendo Life articles, but I couldn't find evidence he has written for other publications. Having said that, the articles which he writes are, in my experience, generally accurate. If we are really going to keep this restriction based on "author reliability", I would hope to see some consensus on exactly which authors we consider to be reliable, otherwise we are going to have inconsistency across Wikipedia on what Nintendo Life sources are okay or not okay for the purpose of verifiability and especially for notability.
I would also note that neither Push Square or Pure Xbox have the same restriction on them. These two websites are run by the same people as Nintendo Life and it would make sense that the editorial reliability would be pretty much the same across all three websites. Kidburla ( talk) 19:48, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
To aid the discussion, here are a few options of how we could resolve this. Feel free to propose your own.
Kidburla ( talk) 11:24, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
As this topic has been here over a week and we seem to have reached a consensus to remove the restriction, with no dissent, I've gone ahead and removed the restriction from the page. Kidburla ( talk) 00:14, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
I've opened a deletion discussion about video game voice actor Quinton Flynn, a keep voter has cited a 2016 article in Nerd Reactor as contributing in their notability. I've only found a single person discussing it in the archives Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources/Archive_10#A_few_sites_for_Freedom_Planet,_a_future_GAN, which seems pretty mixed. The other sources cited include Niche Gamer, which has been judged to be generally unreliable here, as well as Bounding into Comics, a reactionary pro- comicsgate publication that got a mixed-negative reception at RSN Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_293#The_Reliability_of_"Bounding_into_Comics". Hemiauchenia ( talk) 23:21, 1 November 2021 (UTC)