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Hello. I notice that the presidents of CBS at CBS#Presidents of CBS Entertainment has conflicting information when compared to Template:Presidents of CBS Entertainment. According to the main article, Arthur Judson was president from 1927–1928, Frank Stanton from 1946–1971, Arthur R. Taylor from 1972–1976 and John Backe from 1976–1980. However, the template says Hubbell Robinson was president from 1947-1959, 1962-1963, Lee Currlin from 1975-1977 and Robert A. Daly from 1977-1980. Some names in the template do not appear in the main article and vice versa. I was wondering why there's a conflict of information between these years. Thanks! -- MrLinkinPark333 ( talk) 23:57, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
I have two questions about the running time of episodes.
Question 1. The running time in the Infobox. Does it pertain to the running time with commercials, or the running time without commercials that may be indicated in sources like Amazon? I ask because an editor recently added the running time without commercials to the Infobox to two articles on hour-long episodes of South Park, and cited Amazon as their source, and removed mention from the Lead section of those articles, that they are "hour-long" episodes", and removed the two citations of secondary sources that supported that.
Question 2 If an episode is billed in marketing/advertising as a hour-long episode, and sources support this, should it not be indicate as such in the article text, as in the Lead? Or should that be removed in favor of the "without commercials" running time? Nightscream ( talk) 18:26, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Since this WikiProject is featured in Template:RuPaul's Drag Race, I invite the members to partecipate in this discussion: RuPaul's Drag Race#Template edit suggestion. Thank you 92.28.190.117 ( talk) 15:35, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Looks like ShowbuzzDaily is back. [1] kpgamingz ( rant me) 17:22, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
References
The convention for episode list titles has always been "List of <Foo> episodes". When it was necessary to split List of Casualty episodes because it was so large that it broke the post expand include size, the title of the first sub-page " List of Casualty episodes*" caused quite a deal of concern resulting in a huge RM discussion at what is now Talk:List of Casualty episodes (series 1–20). This resulted in no change to the existing convention, with sub pages now at "List of <Foo> episodes (seasons/series a-x)". I've just discovered a number of move discussions at Talk:List of Saturday Night Live episodes#Requested move 12 July 2021, Talk:List of Chopped episodes#Requested move 12 July 2021, Talk:List of Casualty episodes#Requested move 12 July 2021, Talk:List of The Simpsons episodes#Requested move 11 July 2021, Talk:List of Survivor (American TV series) episodes#Requested move 12 July 2021 and Talk:List of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit episodes (there may be more) that seek to move the main LoE pages to "List of <Foo> episodes (seasons 7-present)" which is out of line with the existing convention. I have voted in the move discussions. My intention is not to convass, but to bring this to the attention of the TV community at large. I'm unable to dedicate too much time to this as I'm busy with cancer treatments. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 17:54, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
transclude the series overview tables directly there, leave their current lede paragraphs, etc.- That's what we do now, but we've tried to minimise the number of articles created.
we shouldn't worry too much, as this only affects a handful of shows.- Only 2 years ago it affected only 2 or 3 but a lot more have been identified and split. Fortunately, COVID-19 slowed it down last year but this will affect many more programs as time goes on. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 15:19, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
the present status quo is still odddoesn't really understand episode lists, especially the technicalities of Labelled section transclusion. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 10:13, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
The current situation provides almost seamless navigation, which makes it very easy when jumping between seasons. The example that you've quoted does not need this. TV programs usually do.-- AussieLegend ( ✉)
Here is what I am suggesting. This ONLY affects the titles of each page, and does not affect navigation. Changing the name of the page's names that I have suggested does not affect the readability of the pages nor does it affect navigation. The same logic is used with wiki skins: Changing from Vector to Monobook will not affect readability, navigation, or underlying software, it will just make the page look a bit different. And a name change is an even more minimal change. The only issue that I could see arising is redirects, though those could easily be fixed, since there are not that many pages that have this issue being discussed. Many of the other split pages have proper names and still work just fine. Blubabluba9990 ( talk) ( contribs) 17:56, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
the "next best" solution is to have the "(seasons 1–20)" portion of the episodes list placed at the "base" LoE title, and transclude the "(season 21–present)" "child" article to that.- Again, this breaks the post-expand include size limit. Even if it didn't, the early seasons were moved to a separate page because they are essentially complete and don't need further editing, while the later seasons need to be updated on a regular basis if the program is airing, meaning the editors only need to go to the LoE page to edit.
maybe we really need to get rid of the idea of a "centralized" LoE article, and just have two separate "(seasons 1–20)" and "(season 21–present)" LoE articles- We've always had a centralised LoE page. Numbering pages "seasons 1-20" straight out of the gate doesn't work for several reasons. Many TV programs never make it to 20 seasons and even those that do don't necessarily need to be split at 20 seasons. Constantly renaming pages to suit the current situation just adds complexity. The current system is really the easies, both for editors and readers.
maybe have the "base" LoE title redirect back to the parent TV series article- that makes no sense. When a reader clicks on the LoE link in {{ infobox television}} it goes to the base LoE page in the vast majority of cases.
I continue to be amazed that people want to change a system that has worked well for many years, just because one person misundertood an LoE title. I almost wish the cancer takes me soon. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 15:27, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
Having read this discussion and the RMs (mostly with the same participants), I think there is general consensus to move the pages to the proposed titles (notwithstanding AussieLegend's legitimate opposition). I'm about to close those RMs and move the pages, but I do not feel like creating summary pages at the base titles; instead, I will leave them as redirects to the list of last seasons for the time being. Perhaps that would even be an optimal solution for navigation (per Masem's concerns), but I'll leave that to the Wikiproject's decision. No such user ( talk) 08:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
There is an RfC at Talk:NBC News#Request for Comment NBC News Farrow Reporting that members of this project may be interested in. Please note I am a paid consultant to NBC News. BC1278 ( talk) 15:39, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Input would be useful at Talk:Queerbaiting#Examples section lacks credibility, as would anyone willing to edit the queerbaiting article itself and excise the WP:UNDUE. Crossroads -talk- 05:32, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Recently, I was going around to some articles for new summer 2021 US TV series, and I have to agree with IJBall, who has tagged some of these articles, that a lot don't meet notability standards. I don't know why articles are being created with a couple sentences (sourced to a press release) and a ratings table. Examples like this are The Ultimate Surfer, House Calls with Dr. Phil, and Superstar. Clearly there is not significant independent coverage. Ultimately these shows are just summer filler. We need to recognize that some shows just do not receive the coverage to warrant an article. Heartfox ( talk) 17:24, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Does Wikipedia have a style guideline for consistent indication of season and episode number for an episode of a TV show? As I look at biographies, I see a variety of styles. For example, Barbara Feldon alone contains:
I have not seen anything in the Manual of Style about this topic, but I might just have missed it. I am hoping that someone here can point me to a guideline. Eddie Blick ( talk) 02:02, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Are any project members interested in creating List of Drag Race Thailand episodes and/or List of The Switch Drag Race episodes? I'm not very familiar with how the tables are created/transcluded/etc. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:15, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Also, related, WikiProject Television members are invited to discuss proposed changes to Template:RuPaul's Drag Race, which covers the entire Drag Race franchise. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 19:11, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
The Mash Report continued last night on a new channel under a new name, Late Night Mash, but it's formally a continuation of the series. Should we have a separate article for Late Night Mash, and if we don't should the article be renamed Late Night Mash? Can anyone point to relevant precedent? — Bilorv ( talk) 17:00, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
A few users have been actively populating Awards sections on Thai TV show articles. Some of these awards, however, I don't think warrant inclusion. The top five Thai television awards are the Mekhala, TV Gold, Kom Chad Luek, Nine Entertain, and Nataraja, according to this Isra News column [1], and there seems to be general agreement on these five being the major ones, based on what I could glean from online discussion forums. None of them currently have articles on Enwiki, but this is more attributable to lack of editor interest, not lack of notability (all of them have articles on the Thai Wikipedia).
It's not directly addressed by WP:MOSTV, but I think having some kind of definition of what constitutes a major award, to be allowed in awards lists, is in line with current practice. I would like to therefore suggest that only the five aforementioned Thai awards should generally be included in Awards tables in television show articles, where relevant. Conversely, I'd suggest removing other entries, which can be considered minor awards.
Thoughts? Pinging ChanonMH10, who made most of the edits that I've come across. -- Paul_012 ( talk) 00:50, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
User:Wikibrown2 and User:Wikigod8 are creating or editing existing articles and adding huge amount of fake information, to the point that I can't tell what part of the article is even real. Please take a look at Tex Brown (I've nominated In The End (TV series) for deletion as that seems 100% fake). Gonnym ( talk) 17:40, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
It has been proposed that List of fictional librarians be merged into Libraries and librarians in fiction. Seeking your feedback at Talk:List of fictional librarians#Merger proposal. Thanks. -- Historyday01 ( talk) 13:24, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
I would like to Request to protect Wikipedia page on Indian Television show "Kaatelal & Sons" as the view history shows a lot of attempts of Vandalism wherein genuine references previously cited by editors were removed by a group of people for their own benefit. Information regarding an actor from the cast (Paras Arora) was also removed from the page which was later retrieved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikivasug ( talk • contribs) 13:45, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Should Real Housewives taglines be included in season articles? Example of what this might look like.
This has been the subject of a lot of back-and-forth edits spread over a large number of articles.
Those removing this content from articles have cited MOS:TV#Taglines or WP:NOTADVERTISING. However, I think this is based on a misunderstanding of the function of taglines in the RH franchise. Housewives "taglines" are not "taglines" in the sense of the advertising slogans mentioned in MOS:TV (or the ones listed at Tagline#Examples). Rather than being external marketing materials, they are a part of the show proper, as a part of each season's opening credits. Moreover, they are a highly recognizable feature of the franchise, and are the subject of significant commentary in RS. The closest analogy is probably The Simpsons' " couch gags", which are included in the infoboxes of articles on individual episodes ( example) - the main difference is that Housewives taglines are constant across a season, rather than varying from episode to episode.
Pinging in editors who I've seen adding (@ Kelege and Livelikemusic:) or removing (@ Hotwiki and Onel5969:) taglines from these articles, in case they wish to chime in. Colin M ( talk) 20:40, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
I'm currently working on an FAC, and one of the reviewers is asking about the reliability of Programming Insider. I know the general consensus is that the website is reliable, but I've never seen any explanation as to why that is in any of the discussion pages I could find. Could someone explain what makes the website reliable? Thanks! RunningTiger123 ( talk) 03:53, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
Can we have some experienced eyes at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Riding High (1995, TV series), please? I'm not going to lose sleep over whether the article is kept or not, but I'd like to see some participation and analysis of whether or not it meets GNG. — Bilorv ( talk) 14:55, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
I've noticed that the page for the 73rd Primetime Emmy Awards attributes the telecast as being "on CBS and Paramount+", as it is being simulcast on a streaming platform. Is this appropriate verbage or should only the linear broadcaster be named? ViperSnake151 Talk 04:31, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Somebody wanna explain to me how a 12-episode series (which will likely only get to 18–20 episodes with its third and final series) has a standalone episodes list?! -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 15:55, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Characters of Carnivàle for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Mjroots ( talk) 02:51, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
I started the merger/redirect proposal on James Morton (baker) at Talk:List of The Great British Bake Off finalists. -- George Ho ( talk) 07:05, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
RuPaul's Drag Race (the original series in the U.S.) has seen many spin-offs. Can project members help determine if Category:RuPaul's Drag Race should actually be a subcategory of something like Category:Drag Race (franchise)?
I should note, I just created Category:Drag Race (franchise) templates as a catch-all for Drag Race-related templates. Perhaps the article and category structure should follow shows like Big Brother? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:15, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Oh, and I should also note, Template talk:RuPaul's Drag Race has seen recent discussion re: whether or not the template should be renamed Template:Drag Race (franchise) and re-organized to focus less on the U.S. Participation welcome. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:16, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
I searched the talk page archives but got no results. Checked the Perennial sources archives as well but found no previous discussion, so I'd like to get opinions on Hypable. A search on WP says there's 395 uses of it as a source so not a lot in the grander scheme of things. This is their About section (linking Google cache of the page just in case the website is down). The staff bios don't indicate any particular professional qualifications in journalism or writing (except for 1 person I think), and that, combined w what minimal outside coverage I could find (Google search for "Hypable website") of the site (an OC Register piece on its founder, a mention in an ABC piece on the HP fandom, a UK Times piece about JK Rowling calling them out for publishing a "leak"), leaves me w the impression that it is nothing more than a glorified fan blog for lack of a better term, but perhaps others may feel differently. -- Carlobunnie ( talk) 17:12, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
This is a notice that an RfC has been started requesting comment on if the draft of Wikipedia:Notability (television) should be implemented as a guideline and a WP:SNG. Comments are welcome at the discussion, here. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:36, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
This article needs some tender loving care; it looks like it really hasn't been updated since 2014, and though some automation through template transclusion has helped, there are a few other things that need to be addressed, such as the use of 'seasons' for reality shows that somehow has made them appear to have run longer than shows which started in the 70s; I reverted a couple of obvious cases like Chopped and The Ultimate Fighter, but there's still a lot of dates which need updating. Nate • ( chatter) 06:18, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello, WikiProject TV,
We generally don't retain empty categories unless they are category redirects, disambiguation categories, categories being discusses at WP:CFD or WikiProject categories so I'm just inquiring of the purpose of this category and if you anticipated it staying empty or if this is a temporary blip. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:14, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated List of Carnivàle episodes for featured list removal. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 05:58, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Recently, I've noticed several TV shows with awards lists titled "List of accolades received by X" (e.g., List of accolades received by The Mandalorian and List of accolades received by WandaVision). However, while this seems to be the standard format for Category:Lists of accolades by film, this isn't the standard for Category:Lists of awards by television series, which instead prefers "List of awards and nominations received by X". Category:Lists of awards received by actor also seems to use "List of awards and nominations received by X".
Two questions:
— RunningTiger123 ( talk) 19:49, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
An editor has requested for The Next Step (2013 TV series) to be moved to The Next Step (Canadian TV series). Since you had some involvement with The Next Step (2013 TV series), you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so).
An editor has requested for The Next Step (1991 TV series) to be moved to The Next Step (American TV program). Since you had some involvement with The Next Step (1991 TV series), you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so).
Havelock Jones ( talk) 13:37, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Wanting to get thoughts regarding this website...
A user in an article is attempting to use this website to source an international airing of episodes of a show, but I'm doubting the reliability of this site. Don't see any sort of 'About us' page, the 'best' information would just be the copyright at the bottom of the article. Also, the website linking a fan petition (the link regarding It's Pony) makes me moreso believe this is some sort of fan-created site.
Either way, any thoughts on this? Magitroopa ( talk) 21:27, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
I would appreciate feedback on a situation over at Blade of the Immortal (2019 TV series) and Blade of the Immortal (2008 TV series). I've started a discussion at Talk:Blade of the Immortal (2019 TV series)#TV series or season, but the gist of it is, the article represent themselves as "TV series" but the infobox uses the season infobox (which I have a feeling is used only for the color option). Gonnym ( talk) 10:14, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
The article on " Ze plane! Ze plane!" is misnamed. None of the sources call it that, and it's obviously wrong if you listen to the show's opening. I would just go ahead and move it, but sources differ on whether it's "The" or "De". Please weigh in on the talk page. GA-RT-22 ( talk) 17:59, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Suddenly noticing that because they're 'not verifiable', editors like @ Geraldo Perez: are removing the broadcast resolutions out of all television series articles, even though the resolutions for every television network are publicly available and very easily verifiable through the most basic of means (checking 'info' on your television set or even the upload format of their YouTube promos which generally shares their TV format...oh, and our own article confirming each network's format), networks can't change resolutions at random (you won't find a network airing in 1080i airing something else in 720p randomly), and the sources for series such as Scandal do list their original resolution in their press releases. I feel like I stirred this hornet's nest to begin with a few months earlier by reverting another editor who tried to start a lame edit war about Nickelodeon's broadcast resolution (and apologize that I even tried to do so). Asking for clarification, because this feels like something easily resolved, and just feels like a group of editors needing something to do rather than improving actual article content. Nate • ( chatter) 04:26, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
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should also likely be scrubbed. And possibly other little-used parameters like editor
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talk) 15:26, 17 October 2021 (UTC)Are Degrassi Goes Hollywood and Degrassi Takes Manhattan episodes or films? The lead, italics and all but one category say film, while the infobox and Category:Degrassi: The Next Generation episodes say episode. Gonnym ( talk) 09:49, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Celebration of Horses: The American Saddlebred regarding The notability of A Celebration of Horses: The American Saddlebred. Thank you. Gonnym ( talk) 19:52, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
I started merger/redirect proposal on Kim-Joy. Location of discussion is Talk:List of The Great British Bake Off finalists#Redirect Kim-Joy? -- George Ho ( talk) 19:37, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Is A Ghost Story for Christmas a TV series or a film series? And in turn, are the parts if it "episodes" or "films"? A Ghost Story for Christmas#Episode list lists the "episodes" and calls them "films" and they were released one per year (between 1971 to 1978). Gonnym ( talk) 22:29, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
If they announced there were 10 episodes and when they'd be shown, should the infobox show 10 as the number of episodes? Or only show the number of episodes shown thus far? [4] Dream Focus 12:38, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
The number of episodes released. This parameter should only be incremented when new episodes air. An inline citation is required if the total number of episodes produced is greater than the number aired, such as in the case of a show being cancelled.— Bilorv ( talk) 17:13, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
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Would appreciate some outside input with an edit conflict at Talk:Cost of Living (Star Trek: The Next Generation)#Episode is now at the wrong title. Gonnym ( talk) 18:23, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Does anyone object to the external link suggested at Talk:Dish Network#Proposal to Add New External Link? It doesn't violate any part of Wikipedia:External links (this was previously discussed at WP:ELN). I don't think the article is watched by very many people. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 15:52, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
I think this pertains to this WikiProject.
Simply speaking Major League Baseball on Fox is way too long and complicated and should be shortened while other supplemental articles should be created. I suggest we model this off of ESPN Major League Baseball and their supplemental articles Monday Night Baseball, Wednesday Night Baseball and Sunday Night Baseball. I suggest adding a Major League Baseball on FS1 and a Fox Saturday Baseball article. Thoughts? Mannysoloway ( talk) 14:47, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
With the upcoming release of the made-for-TV movie South Park: Post Covid, there is a discussion ensuing as to whether a made-for-TV movie of an episodic series should stand alone as a movie, or if said movie should be considered an episode of the series. There are a couple of other lists of episodes that include made-for-TV movies (examples: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6), but these examples are of series where the movie came out some time after the cancellation of the series. With Post Covid, we have a made-for-TV movie being made while the series is still ongoing. There's also the fact that every episode of South Park has an article for the episode, so there is debate if the infobox of most recent episode should list the movie as the next episode or not. The current standard has been to consider the movie as separate from the episodes, and this upcoming movie is listed and discussed at South Park (franchise) (since this is where the previous full-length animated movie is discussed), while some editors think it should be listed at List of South Park episodes and that the infobox of the most-recent episode of the show should list the movie as the next episode. To me, I guess a big determining factor in the matter will be whether or not the Post Covid movie has details/plotlines that reference the previous television episode, or if the plot of the made-for-TV movie stands alone. I'd love to hear some other opinions on the matter though. - SanAnMan ( talk) 16:54, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Full House#Requested move 25 November 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Hddty ( talk) 12:26, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi, wasn't Joe Straczybski's BABYLON-5 "a novel for television" [jms' own description] in the 1990s? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnny0634Cashx ( talk • contribs) 00:59, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Please comment on this discussion on articles about home media releases of films and tv shows. Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk) 02:30, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Thoughts on List of Judy Justice episodes existing as a separate article? -- / Alex/ 21 23:54, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Per the results of the recent RfC, WP:NTV is now a notability essay. It can be looked to for reference on notability matters, but do note it is simply an essay and not a notability guideline or WP:SNG. There were some good criticisms brought up in the RfC (such as possibly trying to emulate WP:NMUSIC's layout/format), but I feel now that this is an essay, it can still be worked on and expanded upon, which I would encourage from anyone interested. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 04:39, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Television episodes has been redirect to WP:NTVEP, removed from the project navigation template, and in the process of fixing any major incoming links. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 03:33, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Also for @ Bsems, MarcioRob24, Disney1024, Livelikemusic, Superman011, Lonniemitchell22, Jeremy Butler, EdrianJustine, WikiVirusC, Cleo20, TheTVExpert, and TomCat4680:, I happened to find this page while I also understand many had also agreed on fed up by the IP vandalisms, as suspected, the anonymous user had used too many IP addresses to keep revert the edits that also violate the WP:MOSTV guidelines. Well, I saw from one of the talk pages that time and suggested the same as I do, is a permanent indefinite semi-protection of all The Voice-related articles to counter the vandalism. I hope that this can raise the awareness and why the fight is still on. Do inform the Reality television task force as well. Thank you. TVSGuy ( talk) 12:40, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
There's a serious error in RT's entry about The Wheel of Time (TV series). Tomatometer is +15% off, so unless it became just a random number and not an actual percent of positive review, we need to remove it from art. about the series. I tried, but my edit was contested. Mithoron ( talk) 15:06, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Hey everyone, I've been working on a major update to the article 73rd Primetime Emmy Awards in order to bring it up to FL standards and hopefully set a better example for what these articles should look like. You can see my revisions here. If you have any suggestions or feedback, I'd really appreciate hearing them here. Thanks! RunningTiger123 ( talk) 20:01, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
What do you all think of this edit? The IP is adding a section called "Arabic-language adaptation", but the content, though written in English and seemingly constructive, appears incoherent - I reverted a similar edit a week ago - and from the overall dearth of footnotes, mostly unsourced. No doubt this needs to be better written if it's to be retained. (I decided to revert the edit, again.) MPFitz1968 ( talk) 18:00, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
Is there anything that should be done with these?... Each season article basically seems to be plots/statistics only, which is not encouraged per WP:PLOT. An IP has been attempting to add similar plots/statistics to the article for the 2021 reboot, but continues to be reverted has seems to have no intention of discussing the issue.
My best idea would probably be to just redirect all the season articles to Wipeout (2008 game show) (or Wipeout (2008 game show)#Episodes) unless there is better information/improvements to make instead.
Articles in question:
Thanks in advance. Magitroopa ( talk) 17:02, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
There is a titling RFC at Wikipedia talk:Article titles that will affect many articles at this project. There was discussion of making the RfC handled bit by bit before all projects understood the ramifications with entertainment being singled out next in a deleted draft, and other projects after that. Whether you agree or don't agree please join in the discussion for this massive Wikipedia change. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 10:33, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:Infobox television channel#RfC for removal of "Availability" section, which is about a template that is within the scope of this WikiProject. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:41, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure where to ask this, but I'm wondering if copying Netflix episode summaries are copyrighted and cannot be used for episode summaries. Outside of the copyright issue is the unencyclopedic tone of such summaries. Considering both issues together, I'm thinking they shouldn't be used at all, but I wanted to get some feedback on the question. — Torchiest talk edits 15:49, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I am writing this to flag an attention for this new user @ CreecregofLife: for reverting some of the edits including mine, claiming that the edits are not notable. I writing on this post is to let you all know, but reverting an edit is just too much and is beyond understanding the meaning on what is notable about. I'm not trying to be selfish, but given that he was a new user and his experiences, I leave you all to decide on that and just to let you know, Wikipedia is a place to edit and for contributions amd being civil, and not to plain revert because claiming notability is just as too much and it is not right at all. TVSGuy ( talk) 06:45, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
Is The Penthouse: War in Life#Cast listing and description going against the style guide in MOS:TVCAST given that it did mentioned that styling should be consistent throughout a given list while also showing 3 examples of what consistent is referring to. In case, my question is confusing, I mean:
if the example styling above is acceptable.
Thanks, — Paper9oll ( 🔔 • 📝) 06:23, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
What is the general WP:TV feeling on how to handle name/credit changes in the middle of TV series? I have always though that we should list by the name(s) first credited on the series, and then "note" any subsequent names/crediting. But I notice that The Witcher (TV series) is throwing that out the window, and is listing two actors by their season 2 credited names, rather than their season 1 credited names (without even including a note about the crediting changes).
Any thoughts on this? -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 17:29, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
As I did some research on Chevron Hall of Stars and Stage 7, I found that the former is essentially a subset of the latter. When Stage 7 was syndicated, some sponsors applied a title that reflected their sponsorship. The Billboard article 'Stage' Into Eleven Marts for Drewry's lists Chevron Hall of Stars as one example.
On November 22, 2021, I posted an item about possibly merging Chevron Hall of Stars into Stage 7 on Talk:Chevron Hall of Stars. No one has yet responded, so I thought I would ask here to see whether members of this project think a merger is appropriate. I have never done a merger, so perhas someone else could take charge if merging is favored. Eddie Blick ( talk) 21:14, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Greetings. For interested parties: there is currently a discussion at Patricia Routledge Talk Page on the defining term: "Comedian" in regards to actors / actresses starring in television sitcoms. Maineartists ( talk) 17:15, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
At Talk:List of Gogglebox episodes a couple of months ago, an IP tried to raise the issue of splitting what is quite a large episode list page. Stumbled across it while declining Draft:Lists of Gogglebox episodes (doesn't look like an improvement in structure), but attention to the situation would be good. — Bilorv ( talk) 11:41, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:High-dynamic-range video#Requested move 18 December 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 13:49, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
Is a project member able to upload the title card or promotional artwork for The Alaska Triangle's infobox? I should also note, the article is currently nominated for deletion, if folks care to weigh in on the ongoing discussion. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:24, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
While navigating the Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Television/archive 2 for precedents on an AfD I'm contemplating, I noticed that it was lagging my browser — because it is nearly 1 MB in length! We need to split it up more finely. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 01:29, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
In the following article, Deadline Hollywood claims there were 7 streaming TV series in the 2010–2011 (U.S.) TV season: [5] How do I figure out what these were?
There is no List of American streaming television series article. Surprisingly, there is no Category:Streaming television or something like Category:2010 American streaming television series debuts. (There is Category:Internet television in the United States, but doesn't break out series by year, and looks more like it's for "web series" than "streaming television series".)
So, any ideas here?
And are we missing out in not have a Category:Streaming television category tree?
P.S. I think one of them may be The Booth at the End, but it's unclear to me because it's not in any streaming TV categories! -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 03:57, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
More input would be appreciated: Talk:List of South Park episodes#Post Covid.
Thanks. -- Thibaut ( talk) 01:25, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Terrible section title, I know. But I was just looking for some opinions or options on how to handle a show airing episodes internationally before airing in its country of origin. Australian soap Neighbours has been airing four-times a week in Australia, but five-times a week in the UK in order to make up a gap caused by lockdown/COVID scheduling. The respective broadcasts have now caught up to each other, but Australia is sticking with the four episodes a week, so on 7 January, the UK will pull ahead for the first time. I was trying to think of examples of where something similar happened and my mind just drew a blank. I was wondering what to do about dates for things like character introductions or departures? Do we go by the UK dates or stick with Australia? And what happens if the UK pulls ahead by weeks rather than a couple of days? - JuneGloom07 Talk 04:00, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
AltDate
column for the air dates in that other country that is not the show's native country. --
IJBall (
contribs •
talk) 00:10, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
I started the merger discussion on the John Whaite article, located at Talk:List of The Great British Bake Off finalists#Merge John Whaite? George Ho ( talk) 23:45, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
I started a split discussion on the LGBT representation in children's television article, located at Talk:LGBT representation in children's television#Splitting proposal, proposing that parts of the "LGBT representation on Disney Channel" section about Disney animation be split out into another article titled "Disney and LGBT representation in animation". -- Historyday01 ( talk) 02:38, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk · contribs) recently unilaterally redirected a large number of his own articles on basis of lack of notability; a list can be seen at [6]. Also related is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Darwin's Yearbook, opened after I reverted their unilateral redirect for lack of explanation. I find their motion on Would You Fall for That?, a short-lived spinoff of What Would You Do? (2008 TV program) which was redirected to its parent show without adding any salvageable content to it or the relevant list of episodes. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 02:04, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
The article Fishing television series ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) states that "fishing television series" are TV shows about sport and recreational fishing, while Category:Fishing television series contains many TV shows about commercial fishing, as does {{ Fishing television}} (since 2009, when TV shows were added [7]); There's a discrepancy here. Is "Fishing television series" just about sport and recreational fishing, or does it also include commercial fishing. I will note that one of the most popular TV shows about fishing, The Deadliest Catch, is a commercial fishing TV show. -- 65.92.246.142 ( talk) 14:03, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
I have nominated Quatermass and the Pit for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. -- George Ho ( talk) 00:04, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
|via=
parameter is important and should be used as such, because YouTube is just a means on which you are viewing the content, not a publisher. -
Favre1fan93 (
talk) 19:59, 20 January 2022 (UTC)Why isn;t this template part of the drop-down list? - Jack Sebastian ( talk) 05:18, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Is Tom Jones (TV series) a real TV program? I couldn't verify the few sources it has, it is not listed on IMDb, it is not mentioned on Tom Jones (singer) and I couldn't find results when I googlged it. Gonnym ( talk) 13:30, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
References
Would appreciate more television editors to join the discusion over at Talk:List of South Park episodes#Post Covid. As a summery of the situation, we have 2 South Park articles South Park: Post Covid and South Park: Post Covid: The Return of Covid which use a mixture of both episode or film terminology and styles. For the most part they follow film and use film terminology, categories and italics, however they also use {{ Infobox television episode}} (instead of {{ Infobox television}} which is used for television films) which then calls them a "South Park episode" and use quotes at List of South Park episodes#Paramount+ films (2021). I don't have a stake in this and don't care if these are films or episodes, but this inconsistency should really be fixed. Gonnym ( talk) 10:56, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
Is there a 'correct' formatting for the cast/characters section on articles for animated series? Most of the examples at MOS:TVCAST are for liveaction shows, and I'm being told that the formatting style of "X (voiced by X)" is incorrect in regards to Big Nate (see talk page discussion). And if there is not a 'defined' formatting for this section on animated shows articles, should there be one decided on?... Magitroopa ( talk) 22:50, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
So I wanted to get some clarification regarding the proper end date to list for The Looney Tunes Show. To summarize, the series, like many animated series, was given a two-season order to begin, but because of mixed reception and audience fall-off wasn't picked up for further renewal after that. This had already been announced when the last-produced episode was aired in the US (the country of origin) in August 2013, but due to a variety of circumstances one episode was skipped in the original airing order and didn't air in the US until almost a year later (August 2014) when the series was being rerun. However, and this is the key point, the episode was not skipped in overseas markets (including Australia and New Zealand) and actually aired in correct sequence about 10 months before it actually aired in the US for the first time, in November 2013. So my question is which if the three dates is the proper one to use as the end date? oknazevad ( talk) 21:47, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
Input for this PR is welcome. SNUGGUMS ( talk / edits) 01:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
If you have an opinion, please share. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 15:33, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi all. I just took a look at Season 18 of The Voice, and found that basically none of the tables in the article comply with MOS:COLOR, specifically with the part of "Not using color as the only means to convey information". The teams table uses only color to signal whether a contestant was stolen, finalist, or at what point were they eliminated, and the auditions table uses color to distinguish which coach the artist chose (Yellow cell with a checkmark for the chosen coach, blank cell with a checkmar for the other coaches that turned their chairs), and for blocked coaches, a cross with four different colors depending on which coach blocked them. Then the battles tables use only color to distinguish whether an artist lost but was stolen, lost but was saved, or lost and was eliminated. I think it would be good to reassess how to make the tables more accessible in terms of use of color. Any thoughts? Not A Superhero ( talk) 05:16, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
Recently stumbled upon this mess of a template. Most "season" articles are filled with trivia. Take Power Rangers Zeo for example. It is almost entirely a list of characters with links to a list of episodes. Also keep in mind smaller seasons like this one from 2021, which links to not one but two different episode articles. Can anyone help merge them into their sub-articles? See this discussion about Pokemon articles for reference. Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk) 00:52, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Comment: @ Lado85 has begun reverting my edits and those by @ Onel5969. Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk) 20:10, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi everyone! Does anyone here know how we access the Broadcasters' Audience Research Board database? I'd like some stats for an article—which seems pretty common for TV series?—but it seems to be subscription only. Thanks in advance for any help! SN54129 19:13, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
See Talk:ViacomCBS Networks International#New name and Talk:Paramount Global#Mass unsourced page moves of ex-ViacomCBS subsidiaries. Thibaut ( talk) 22:10, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi, Project Team experts.
I tried to let Wikidata populate the Template:Epguides item in Quantum Leap External links. It did not work, just went to the general Epguides.com website. I checked the entry in WIKIDATA Quantum Leap (Q230506), and it appears to have the correct "Epguides ID", being "QuantumLeap", as when I hit on that ID in wikidata.org it does go the the specific Epguides webpage for Quantum Leap.
Am I using the Template:Epguides incorrectly? Must I always include the "|id=SeriesName" in the template?
While the documentation (unlike some other templates of this type) does not show the "if you do not enter an ID, wikidata will do it all for you" (my words) option, the Template:Epguides documentation does have a Hatnote that includes the words "and ease of interoperability with Wikidata", which suggests that it is intended to read wikidata on its own, implying "if you do not enter an ID, wikidata will do it all for you" is a go.
(See how I used "suggests" and "implying" instead of "I assume"? Fooled myself into believing that you would not notice, but you probably caught me out on that.)
Thanks, in advance, for your guidance. Jmg38 ( talk) 05:56, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
It was brought to my attention by C933103 that the section of television topics in Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Society and social sciences is larger than the intended quota for the entire category, largely because of the listing of 230 different U.S. TV shows. (There are 485 TV items out of 822 total, and the quota for the whole category of "Journalism and mass media" is 475.) Is it possible to review this and trim down the list? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:54, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
I have nominated Truthiness for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. – Kavyansh.Singh ( talk) 08:53, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Please see Talk:A_Discovery_of_Witches_(TV_series)#RFC for discussion on the article's lead. Reywas92 Talk 14:15, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi all, this discussion regards my recent updates to {{ Episode table/part}}. I've updated the template to use more intuitive parameters, but not yet deprecating them, so nothing will be broken when I begin the changes throughout articles. (You can see this at User:Alex 21/sandbox2; the current parameters are used above the black header, and the new parameters are below, all parameters still actively work.)
To begin, we can see the following different types of episode table subheaders:
No. | Title | Directed by | Written by | Original air date | ||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
' | ||||||||||||
' | ||||||||||||
' | ||||||||||||
' | ||||||||||||
' |
These are respectively generated with the following code, which is what we actively use at the moment:
{{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|p=1}} {{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|p=Volume 1|nopart=y}} {{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|p=Chapter 1|nopart=y}} {{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|p=Chapter 1: ''The End''|nopart=y}} {{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|p=''The End''|nopart=y}}
So, each time we want to update from "Part" to any other type, such as "Chapter" or "Volume", we need to override the |p=
parameter and always set |nopart=y
. However, these changes implement more intuitive parameters, so that the following codes gives the same results as above:
{{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|part=1}} {{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|volume=1}} {{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|chapter=1}} {{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|chapter=1|subtitle=The End}} {{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|subtitle=The End}}
This means we now have actual parameters for Part, Volume and Chapter (|part=
, |volume=
and |chapter=
), and a parameter for a subtitle, no matter what "part" term we're using, even if we're not using one at all (|subtitle=
). We no longer need to override the |p=
parameter, and this deprecates the need for |nopart=y
. These parameters can now be actively used, and they will be updated in due time, so we can deprecate the original basic parameters.
If you have any questions, concerns, or suggestions, please let me know! -- Alex_21 TALK 02:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Geo TV#Requested move 18 February 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 17:55, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Hotstar#Requested move 2 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 03:56, 9 March 2022 (UTC), Adding WP Television to this. AngusW🐶🐶F ( bark • sniff) 15:16, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Janani Iyer#Requested move 17 February 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 22:11, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Encounter (Canadian TV series)#Requested move 7 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 19:34, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:I Can See Your Voice (German season 2)#Requested move 9 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 20:13, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
I'm trying to cleanup the Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards article at the moment... As I'm cleaning up the infobox, I (personally) feel like the image should be changed in the infobox, possibly to the award itself? Similar to Grammy Awards, Tony Awards, Academy Awards, etc. Seems a bit weird (at least to me) to have the infobox image being a random image of a performance that took place at one of the ceremonies from over 10 years ago (2009 ceremony, to be exact).
I'm honestly not the best with images/copyright/etc, so I don't know what can/can't be used, but if possible, I'm thinking either this image (from this article) or the image from this article.
And yes, I know it would likely be more appropriate to bring this to the article's talk page first, but given the fact that the latest three discussions on there are all from me and currently garnered no responses, seems like I'll be more likely to get help/an answer here.
Thanks in advance. Magitroopa ( talk) 21:31, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Is there anyone exploring the maintenance of articles relating to television in South Korea? I see too many redlinks, especially in navbox templates where usage is misleading, and articles that could easily be redirected to main broadcasting corporations as they've been left unsourced for maybe years. Thanks for any assistance provided in the matter. Jalen Folf (talk) 17:30, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
I started a discussion at the following link: Talk:Survivor (American TV series)#DVD covers. -- George Ho ( talk) 06:40, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
Hey all! My name is Gen. Quon and I'm currently a Wikipedia editor and PhD student working on a dissertation about information behavior of fan editors on Wikipedia. (Although I'm using "fan" fairly broadly, I intend to focus on media fans, so people who like music, movies, TV shows, books, etc. are all a-go.) Here's more info on my project, if you're curious. As evidenced by my edit history, I've been reaching out to folks who work on pop culture articles and seeing if they'd be interested in chatting with me about their experiences on the site. I was wondering if anyone who is a part of this WikiProject might be interested in chatting with me? If so, reply here, drop me a message on my talk page, or use the WP email function! I'd love to hear what you have to say. (Note: I posted a similar message over at the WikiProject Music page; just a heads up!)-- Gen. Quon [Talk] (I'm studying Wikipedia!) 13:54, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Emily VanDerWerff § Emily St. James. — Bilorv ( talk) 10:07, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Since the websites parameters have been removed from the infobox and it's now handled by Wikidata, I've noticed some of the links for websites are either outdated, dead, or redirects. If the official website is dead or no longer working, should we just be removing the link from Wikidata? What's the process here? Thanks. Drovethrughosts ( talk) 12:36, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
and it's now handled by Wikidata, that's only happening per the way the infobox is currently coded given the removal of the parameters. The full "External links" section of the infobox and website parameters will be removed once the bot finishes so you won't be seeing those Wikidata instances anymore. See here for more. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:19, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
A request for comment that may interest members of this project has been opened at Talk:Donald Trump § RfC: Should the lead section have any citations?. –– FormalDude talk 19:51, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Maō (TV series)#Requested move 24 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 18:20, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a deletion discussion here about the show Can You Duet. While the show lasted for two seasons, it seems to have garnered no coverage as I've dissected in the AFD. I would appreciate more eyes on the AFD to judge the validity of the sources already there and prove or disprove the existence of further sources. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 17:06, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Hey, there's a discussion over at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Television#Clarification on order of sections about what order to place sections (particularly episodes and cast) in television series articles. JDDJS ( talk to me • see what I've done) 01:40, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
I've been eyeing some modifications to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (broadcasting), and I've put the largest of them up for project discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Television stations task force#Network, channel, or station? Looking for thoughts related to our use of disambiguators and definitions, especially "TV network" versus "TV channel". Your comments and suggestions are welcome. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:45, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Routine coverage for a series are production announcements (orders, castings, etc.). As @ Toddst1 put it, who cares? Citing WP:NOTGOSSIP, the editor removed this information from Outer Range as well as filming dates and locations, writing, "it was filmed. BFD". Thoughts? Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk) 15:32, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Could I get some more television minded folks to look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bounty Hunters (American TV series) in order to help establish a better consensus? My main concern here is that the show was too short-lived to have garnered any media coverage. Thanks. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 21:16, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
This message provides notice that I have started an RfC at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (broadcasting)#2022 revision proposal on a proposed rewrite/update to the text of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (broadcasting). Your comments are welcome. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:55, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
The main page for the
Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/Idols task force, states that "This WikiProject is believed to be inactive." Left a message in their
talk page, just in case someone still goes there. In case they don't, one of you who work the overarching WikiProject Television might care that the
Template:AI contestant no longer works, as the underlying template data http://archive.americanidol.com
no longer exists.
Jmg38 (
talk) 07:57, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
A discussion was recently restarted between YoungForever and I about the graphs used for ratings at Talk:List of Chicago Med episodes#Ratings table. A discussion of some nature was also done here between Alex 21 and I back in 2017. YoungForever and I came to the conclusion that rating graphs provide no new content and could borderline WP:FANCRUFT. Additionally, they provide major accessibility issues. One, the X axis of such graph is totally obliterated after a certain number of episodes. Secondly, the width of the graph exceeds the HTML and CSS code and causes vertical overflow on all devices. Additionally, some episode list pages include another table right under such graph with the exact same content, which again borderlines WP:FANCRUFT. It restates the same content from episode summaries and the first graph itself. Here are some examples I've gathered so far:
For that, I propose that some guidelines be tabled for such use:
1. Such graphs and tables be removed
2. Use of tables such as
List of Station 19 episodes#Ratings instead.
3. Reliable sources demonstrate notability of viewership trends
4. Once a certain number of episodes has been reached that causes accessibility issues, the graphs be moved into individual season pages.
There is no consistency on their uses on pages, so it seems that they're just being applied without appropriate regard to WP:FANCRUFT. Any other proposals are welcome to establish proper guidelines for their uses. Callmemirela 🍁 talk 21:18, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
There was quite an internet hullabaloo when Wilford Brimley was given a title card tribute at the end of Season 3 episode 9 (August 2020) without ever appearing on an episode of Yellowstone (American TV series). It appears to me that he subsequently was included in a couple of scenes of Season 4 episode 5, which was released in November 2021. However, his filmography table on WP does not list this and IMDb does not list this. What is up?- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:01, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Hey everyone at WP TV, There is a new Wikiproject proposal for 20th Century Studios. (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/20th Century Studios) So if you are interested in joining please say so in the proposal, so we can see if there will be enough member to start a project. ― Kaleeb18 TalkCaleb 21:01, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Additional viewpoints would be welcome at Talk:Estelle Harris#Reliably reported content connecting the subject's death with that of her costar, which is currently basically a two-person back-and-forth. Cheers! BD2412 T 00:50, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Additional viewpoints would be welcome at Talk:List of awards and nominations received by Better Call Saul. An IP has started a discussion about whether an Emmy Award awarded to a promo of Better Call Saul should be listed. Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk) 14:46, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
I've started a page for Yakamoz S-245 in draft: Draft:Yakamoz S-245. Consider contributing! This particularly needs referencing (which I suspect folks here have a good handle on!) Jodi.a.schneider ( talk) 13:35, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
I've created a new stub called Everything's Gonna Be All White. I've added 9 references to the article and have added the infobox as well as the overview, cast, episodes and reception sections, but the article still needs some work like expanding and the episode list reformatted to the correct format. — Mythdon ( talk • contribs) 19:15, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:TBS (American TV channel)#Requested move 16 April 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 08:51, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
I fell down a rabbit hole of TV series navigational boxes that led me to discover a crapton of unsourced, undersourced, underused, and possibly non-notable TV shows. You can find my list here. I've already taken a crack at a few and would appreciate any help in source-hunting since some of these genuinely do seem to fail notability guidelines. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 05:58, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2022 May 1, where I have nominated several television screenshots that fail WP:NFCC#8 for deletion. These include images of characters staring, walking, and talking to one another. Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk) 23:43, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
)and turns it into something like
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{ cite web}}, {{ cite journal}} and {{ doi}}.
The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.
This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
There are 146 articles PRODded by TenPoundHammer ( talk · contribs) on April 24 [8] that were deprodded by NemesisAT ( talk · contribs) on the 30th due to concerns that too many articles were PRODded at once. These articles were deprodded in alphabetical order, including given names and articles, so this list will also be alphabetized. 14 of these articles have been AfD'd by TPH and one by me. I'm not 1000% certain about the fate of the rest. Most of the entries have few or no sources. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 06:59, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
Recently I went through redirecting a bunch of Heroes (American TV series) episodes because they were composed almost entirely of fancruft. Dream Focus ( talk · contribs) undid most of the redirects, saying that reviews from IGN and AV Club made the episodes notable.
My read of WP:NEPISODE is that just a review or two isn't enough. Dream Focus says it is. Is this down to just personal opinion, or is an episode not notable unless there is coverage beyond just a couple of reviews? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 06:12, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
"The film is widely distributed and has received full-length reviews by two or more nationally known critics."The "nationally known critics" is to weed out using minor internet-only reviews to try to qualify a minor film for an article. WP:NTV should mirror that, to keep out using garbage like AV Club (which has internet randos reviewing everything). IOW, if it's not getting reviewed in Variety/Entertainment Weekly/LA Times/etc, the review is likely minor and doesn't meaningfully contribute to the "significant coverage in reliable sources" benchmark. -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 03:34, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
Should the Millennium (miniseries) be turned into Millennium (film series)? I understand that the miniseries won awards and that may lead some to consider it notable to stand on its own, but they're the original films only extended and edited into a TV miniseries. Outside of Europe, it has been reformatted and released back into a film trilogy, at least according to IGN. Moving the article might give more room to add more relevant production information and reception of the individual films. Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 08:03, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Notability#Notability of television episodes in regards to WP:NTV and WP:NEPISODE in particular. Editors of this project may be interested to participate. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 15:49, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Hey, discussions regarding replacing Template:episode table with a different table at Inside No. 9 Indagate ( talk) 08:42, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peepoodo & the Super Fuck Friends (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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For anyone who's familiar with sourcing UK viewer ratings through BARB, do they no longer provide 28-day viewer ratings? This is their primary page for ratings data, but I don't seem to be able to find the relevant 28-day option anymore. -- Alex_21 TALK 01:33, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
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Hello. I notice that the presidents of CBS at CBS#Presidents of CBS Entertainment has conflicting information when compared to Template:Presidents of CBS Entertainment. According to the main article, Arthur Judson was president from 1927–1928, Frank Stanton from 1946–1971, Arthur R. Taylor from 1972–1976 and John Backe from 1976–1980. However, the template says Hubbell Robinson was president from 1947-1959, 1962-1963, Lee Currlin from 1975-1977 and Robert A. Daly from 1977-1980. Some names in the template do not appear in the main article and vice versa. I was wondering why there's a conflict of information between these years. Thanks! -- MrLinkinPark333 ( talk) 23:57, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
I have two questions about the running time of episodes.
Question 1. The running time in the Infobox. Does it pertain to the running time with commercials, or the running time without commercials that may be indicated in sources like Amazon? I ask because an editor recently added the running time without commercials to the Infobox to two articles on hour-long episodes of South Park, and cited Amazon as their source, and removed mention from the Lead section of those articles, that they are "hour-long" episodes", and removed the two citations of secondary sources that supported that.
Question 2 If an episode is billed in marketing/advertising as a hour-long episode, and sources support this, should it not be indicate as such in the article text, as in the Lead? Or should that be removed in favor of the "without commercials" running time? Nightscream ( talk) 18:26, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Since this WikiProject is featured in Template:RuPaul's Drag Race, I invite the members to partecipate in this discussion: RuPaul's Drag Race#Template edit suggestion. Thank you 92.28.190.117 ( talk) 15:35, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Looks like ShowbuzzDaily is back. [1] kpgamingz ( rant me) 17:22, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
References
The convention for episode list titles has always been "List of <Foo> episodes". When it was necessary to split List of Casualty episodes because it was so large that it broke the post expand include size, the title of the first sub-page " List of Casualty episodes*" caused quite a deal of concern resulting in a huge RM discussion at what is now Talk:List of Casualty episodes (series 1–20). This resulted in no change to the existing convention, with sub pages now at "List of <Foo> episodes (seasons/series a-x)". I've just discovered a number of move discussions at Talk:List of Saturday Night Live episodes#Requested move 12 July 2021, Talk:List of Chopped episodes#Requested move 12 July 2021, Talk:List of Casualty episodes#Requested move 12 July 2021, Talk:List of The Simpsons episodes#Requested move 11 July 2021, Talk:List of Survivor (American TV series) episodes#Requested move 12 July 2021 and Talk:List of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit episodes (there may be more) that seek to move the main LoE pages to "List of <Foo> episodes (seasons 7-present)" which is out of line with the existing convention. I have voted in the move discussions. My intention is not to convass, but to bring this to the attention of the TV community at large. I'm unable to dedicate too much time to this as I'm busy with cancer treatments. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 17:54, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
transclude the series overview tables directly there, leave their current lede paragraphs, etc.- That's what we do now, but we've tried to minimise the number of articles created.
we shouldn't worry too much, as this only affects a handful of shows.- Only 2 years ago it affected only 2 or 3 but a lot more have been identified and split. Fortunately, COVID-19 slowed it down last year but this will affect many more programs as time goes on. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 15:19, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
the present status quo is still odddoesn't really understand episode lists, especially the technicalities of Labelled section transclusion. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 10:13, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
The current situation provides almost seamless navigation, which makes it very easy when jumping between seasons. The example that you've quoted does not need this. TV programs usually do.-- AussieLegend ( ✉)
Here is what I am suggesting. This ONLY affects the titles of each page, and does not affect navigation. Changing the name of the page's names that I have suggested does not affect the readability of the pages nor does it affect navigation. The same logic is used with wiki skins: Changing from Vector to Monobook will not affect readability, navigation, or underlying software, it will just make the page look a bit different. And a name change is an even more minimal change. The only issue that I could see arising is redirects, though those could easily be fixed, since there are not that many pages that have this issue being discussed. Many of the other split pages have proper names and still work just fine. Blubabluba9990 ( talk) ( contribs) 17:56, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
the "next best" solution is to have the "(seasons 1–20)" portion of the episodes list placed at the "base" LoE title, and transclude the "(season 21–present)" "child" article to that.- Again, this breaks the post-expand include size limit. Even if it didn't, the early seasons were moved to a separate page because they are essentially complete and don't need further editing, while the later seasons need to be updated on a regular basis if the program is airing, meaning the editors only need to go to the LoE page to edit.
maybe we really need to get rid of the idea of a "centralized" LoE article, and just have two separate "(seasons 1–20)" and "(season 21–present)" LoE articles- We've always had a centralised LoE page. Numbering pages "seasons 1-20" straight out of the gate doesn't work for several reasons. Many TV programs never make it to 20 seasons and even those that do don't necessarily need to be split at 20 seasons. Constantly renaming pages to suit the current situation just adds complexity. The current system is really the easies, both for editors and readers.
maybe have the "base" LoE title redirect back to the parent TV series article- that makes no sense. When a reader clicks on the LoE link in {{ infobox television}} it goes to the base LoE page in the vast majority of cases.
I continue to be amazed that people want to change a system that has worked well for many years, just because one person misundertood an LoE title. I almost wish the cancer takes me soon. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 15:27, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
Having read this discussion and the RMs (mostly with the same participants), I think there is general consensus to move the pages to the proposed titles (notwithstanding AussieLegend's legitimate opposition). I'm about to close those RMs and move the pages, but I do not feel like creating summary pages at the base titles; instead, I will leave them as redirects to the list of last seasons for the time being. Perhaps that would even be an optimal solution for navigation (per Masem's concerns), but I'll leave that to the Wikiproject's decision. No such user ( talk) 08:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
There is an RfC at Talk:NBC News#Request for Comment NBC News Farrow Reporting that members of this project may be interested in. Please note I am a paid consultant to NBC News. BC1278 ( talk) 15:39, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Input would be useful at Talk:Queerbaiting#Examples section lacks credibility, as would anyone willing to edit the queerbaiting article itself and excise the WP:UNDUE. Crossroads -talk- 05:32, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Recently, I was going around to some articles for new summer 2021 US TV series, and I have to agree with IJBall, who has tagged some of these articles, that a lot don't meet notability standards. I don't know why articles are being created with a couple sentences (sourced to a press release) and a ratings table. Examples like this are The Ultimate Surfer, House Calls with Dr. Phil, and Superstar. Clearly there is not significant independent coverage. Ultimately these shows are just summer filler. We need to recognize that some shows just do not receive the coverage to warrant an article. Heartfox ( talk) 17:24, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Does Wikipedia have a style guideline for consistent indication of season and episode number for an episode of a TV show? As I look at biographies, I see a variety of styles. For example, Barbara Feldon alone contains:
I have not seen anything in the Manual of Style about this topic, but I might just have missed it. I am hoping that someone here can point me to a guideline. Eddie Blick ( talk) 02:02, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Are any project members interested in creating List of Drag Race Thailand episodes and/or List of The Switch Drag Race episodes? I'm not very familiar with how the tables are created/transcluded/etc. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:15, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Also, related, WikiProject Television members are invited to discuss proposed changes to Template:RuPaul's Drag Race, which covers the entire Drag Race franchise. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 19:11, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
The Mash Report continued last night on a new channel under a new name, Late Night Mash, but it's formally a continuation of the series. Should we have a separate article for Late Night Mash, and if we don't should the article be renamed Late Night Mash? Can anyone point to relevant precedent? — Bilorv ( talk) 17:00, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
A few users have been actively populating Awards sections on Thai TV show articles. Some of these awards, however, I don't think warrant inclusion. The top five Thai television awards are the Mekhala, TV Gold, Kom Chad Luek, Nine Entertain, and Nataraja, according to this Isra News column [1], and there seems to be general agreement on these five being the major ones, based on what I could glean from online discussion forums. None of them currently have articles on Enwiki, but this is more attributable to lack of editor interest, not lack of notability (all of them have articles on the Thai Wikipedia).
It's not directly addressed by WP:MOSTV, but I think having some kind of definition of what constitutes a major award, to be allowed in awards lists, is in line with current practice. I would like to therefore suggest that only the five aforementioned Thai awards should generally be included in Awards tables in television show articles, where relevant. Conversely, I'd suggest removing other entries, which can be considered minor awards.
Thoughts? Pinging ChanonMH10, who made most of the edits that I've come across. -- Paul_012 ( talk) 00:50, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
User:Wikibrown2 and User:Wikigod8 are creating or editing existing articles and adding huge amount of fake information, to the point that I can't tell what part of the article is even real. Please take a look at Tex Brown (I've nominated In The End (TV series) for deletion as that seems 100% fake). Gonnym ( talk) 17:40, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
It has been proposed that List of fictional librarians be merged into Libraries and librarians in fiction. Seeking your feedback at Talk:List of fictional librarians#Merger proposal. Thanks. -- Historyday01 ( talk) 13:24, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
I would like to Request to protect Wikipedia page on Indian Television show "Kaatelal & Sons" as the view history shows a lot of attempts of Vandalism wherein genuine references previously cited by editors were removed by a group of people for their own benefit. Information regarding an actor from the cast (Paras Arora) was also removed from the page which was later retrieved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikivasug ( talk • contribs) 13:45, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Should Real Housewives taglines be included in season articles? Example of what this might look like.
This has been the subject of a lot of back-and-forth edits spread over a large number of articles.
Those removing this content from articles have cited MOS:TV#Taglines or WP:NOTADVERTISING. However, I think this is based on a misunderstanding of the function of taglines in the RH franchise. Housewives "taglines" are not "taglines" in the sense of the advertising slogans mentioned in MOS:TV (or the ones listed at Tagline#Examples). Rather than being external marketing materials, they are a part of the show proper, as a part of each season's opening credits. Moreover, they are a highly recognizable feature of the franchise, and are the subject of significant commentary in RS. The closest analogy is probably The Simpsons' " couch gags", which are included in the infoboxes of articles on individual episodes ( example) - the main difference is that Housewives taglines are constant across a season, rather than varying from episode to episode.
Pinging in editors who I've seen adding (@ Kelege and Livelikemusic:) or removing (@ Hotwiki and Onel5969:) taglines from these articles, in case they wish to chime in. Colin M ( talk) 20:40, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
I'm currently working on an FAC, and one of the reviewers is asking about the reliability of Programming Insider. I know the general consensus is that the website is reliable, but I've never seen any explanation as to why that is in any of the discussion pages I could find. Could someone explain what makes the website reliable? Thanks! RunningTiger123 ( talk) 03:53, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
Can we have some experienced eyes at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Riding High (1995, TV series), please? I'm not going to lose sleep over whether the article is kept or not, but I'd like to see some participation and analysis of whether or not it meets GNG. — Bilorv ( talk) 14:55, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
I've noticed that the page for the 73rd Primetime Emmy Awards attributes the telecast as being "on CBS and Paramount+", as it is being simulcast on a streaming platform. Is this appropriate verbage or should only the linear broadcaster be named? ViperSnake151 Talk 04:31, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Somebody wanna explain to me how a 12-episode series (which will likely only get to 18–20 episodes with its third and final series) has a standalone episodes list?! -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 15:55, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Characters of Carnivàle for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Mjroots ( talk) 02:51, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
I started the merger/redirect proposal on James Morton (baker) at Talk:List of The Great British Bake Off finalists. -- George Ho ( talk) 07:05, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
RuPaul's Drag Race (the original series in the U.S.) has seen many spin-offs. Can project members help determine if Category:RuPaul's Drag Race should actually be a subcategory of something like Category:Drag Race (franchise)?
I should note, I just created Category:Drag Race (franchise) templates as a catch-all for Drag Race-related templates. Perhaps the article and category structure should follow shows like Big Brother? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:15, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Oh, and I should also note, Template talk:RuPaul's Drag Race has seen recent discussion re: whether or not the template should be renamed Template:Drag Race (franchise) and re-organized to focus less on the U.S. Participation welcome. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:16, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
I searched the talk page archives but got no results. Checked the Perennial sources archives as well but found no previous discussion, so I'd like to get opinions on Hypable. A search on WP says there's 395 uses of it as a source so not a lot in the grander scheme of things. This is their About section (linking Google cache of the page just in case the website is down). The staff bios don't indicate any particular professional qualifications in journalism or writing (except for 1 person I think), and that, combined w what minimal outside coverage I could find (Google search for "Hypable website") of the site (an OC Register piece on its founder, a mention in an ABC piece on the HP fandom, a UK Times piece about JK Rowling calling them out for publishing a "leak"), leaves me w the impression that it is nothing more than a glorified fan blog for lack of a better term, but perhaps others may feel differently. -- Carlobunnie ( talk) 17:12, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
This is a notice that an RfC has been started requesting comment on if the draft of Wikipedia:Notability (television) should be implemented as a guideline and a WP:SNG. Comments are welcome at the discussion, here. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:36, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
This article needs some tender loving care; it looks like it really hasn't been updated since 2014, and though some automation through template transclusion has helped, there are a few other things that need to be addressed, such as the use of 'seasons' for reality shows that somehow has made them appear to have run longer than shows which started in the 70s; I reverted a couple of obvious cases like Chopped and The Ultimate Fighter, but there's still a lot of dates which need updating. Nate • ( chatter) 06:18, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello, WikiProject TV,
We generally don't retain empty categories unless they are category redirects, disambiguation categories, categories being discusses at WP:CFD or WikiProject categories so I'm just inquiring of the purpose of this category and if you anticipated it staying empty or if this is a temporary blip. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:14, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated List of Carnivàle episodes for featured list removal. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 05:58, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Recently, I've noticed several TV shows with awards lists titled "List of accolades received by X" (e.g., List of accolades received by The Mandalorian and List of accolades received by WandaVision). However, while this seems to be the standard format for Category:Lists of accolades by film, this isn't the standard for Category:Lists of awards by television series, which instead prefers "List of awards and nominations received by X". Category:Lists of awards received by actor also seems to use "List of awards and nominations received by X".
Two questions:
— RunningTiger123 ( talk) 19:49, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
An editor has requested for The Next Step (2013 TV series) to be moved to The Next Step (Canadian TV series). Since you had some involvement with The Next Step (2013 TV series), you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so).
An editor has requested for The Next Step (1991 TV series) to be moved to The Next Step (American TV program). Since you had some involvement with The Next Step (1991 TV series), you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so).
Havelock Jones ( talk) 13:37, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Wanting to get thoughts regarding this website...
A user in an article is attempting to use this website to source an international airing of episodes of a show, but I'm doubting the reliability of this site. Don't see any sort of 'About us' page, the 'best' information would just be the copyright at the bottom of the article. Also, the website linking a fan petition (the link regarding It's Pony) makes me moreso believe this is some sort of fan-created site.
Either way, any thoughts on this? Magitroopa ( talk) 21:27, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
I would appreciate feedback on a situation over at Blade of the Immortal (2019 TV series) and Blade of the Immortal (2008 TV series). I've started a discussion at Talk:Blade of the Immortal (2019 TV series)#TV series or season, but the gist of it is, the article represent themselves as "TV series" but the infobox uses the season infobox (which I have a feeling is used only for the color option). Gonnym ( talk) 10:14, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
The article on " Ze plane! Ze plane!" is misnamed. None of the sources call it that, and it's obviously wrong if you listen to the show's opening. I would just go ahead and move it, but sources differ on whether it's "The" or "De". Please weigh in on the talk page. GA-RT-22 ( talk) 17:59, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Suddenly noticing that because they're 'not verifiable', editors like @ Geraldo Perez: are removing the broadcast resolutions out of all television series articles, even though the resolutions for every television network are publicly available and very easily verifiable through the most basic of means (checking 'info' on your television set or even the upload format of their YouTube promos which generally shares their TV format...oh, and our own article confirming each network's format), networks can't change resolutions at random (you won't find a network airing in 1080i airing something else in 720p randomly), and the sources for series such as Scandal do list their original resolution in their press releases. I feel like I stirred this hornet's nest to begin with a few months earlier by reverting another editor who tried to start a lame edit war about Nickelodeon's broadcast resolution (and apologize that I even tried to do so). Asking for clarification, because this feels like something easily resolved, and just feels like a group of editors needing something to do rather than improving actual article content. Nate • ( chatter) 04:26, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
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should also likely be scrubbed. And possibly other little-used parameters like editor
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talk) 15:26, 17 October 2021 (UTC)Are Degrassi Goes Hollywood and Degrassi Takes Manhattan episodes or films? The lead, italics and all but one category say film, while the infobox and Category:Degrassi: The Next Generation episodes say episode. Gonnym ( talk) 09:49, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Celebration of Horses: The American Saddlebred regarding The notability of A Celebration of Horses: The American Saddlebred. Thank you. Gonnym ( talk) 19:52, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
I started merger/redirect proposal on Kim-Joy. Location of discussion is Talk:List of The Great British Bake Off finalists#Redirect Kim-Joy? -- George Ho ( talk) 19:37, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Is A Ghost Story for Christmas a TV series or a film series? And in turn, are the parts if it "episodes" or "films"? A Ghost Story for Christmas#Episode list lists the "episodes" and calls them "films" and they were released one per year (between 1971 to 1978). Gonnym ( talk) 22:29, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
If they announced there were 10 episodes and when they'd be shown, should the infobox show 10 as the number of episodes? Or only show the number of episodes shown thus far? [4] Dream Focus 12:38, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
The number of episodes released. This parameter should only be incremented when new episodes air. An inline citation is required if the total number of episodes produced is greater than the number aired, such as in the case of a show being cancelled.— Bilorv ( talk) 17:13, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
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Would appreciate some outside input with an edit conflict at Talk:Cost of Living (Star Trek: The Next Generation)#Episode is now at the wrong title. Gonnym ( talk) 18:23, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Does anyone object to the external link suggested at Talk:Dish Network#Proposal to Add New External Link? It doesn't violate any part of Wikipedia:External links (this was previously discussed at WP:ELN). I don't think the article is watched by very many people. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 15:52, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
I think this pertains to this WikiProject.
Simply speaking Major League Baseball on Fox is way too long and complicated and should be shortened while other supplemental articles should be created. I suggest we model this off of ESPN Major League Baseball and their supplemental articles Monday Night Baseball, Wednesday Night Baseball and Sunday Night Baseball. I suggest adding a Major League Baseball on FS1 and a Fox Saturday Baseball article. Thoughts? Mannysoloway ( talk) 14:47, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
With the upcoming release of the made-for-TV movie South Park: Post Covid, there is a discussion ensuing as to whether a made-for-TV movie of an episodic series should stand alone as a movie, or if said movie should be considered an episode of the series. There are a couple of other lists of episodes that include made-for-TV movies (examples: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6), but these examples are of series where the movie came out some time after the cancellation of the series. With Post Covid, we have a made-for-TV movie being made while the series is still ongoing. There's also the fact that every episode of South Park has an article for the episode, so there is debate if the infobox of most recent episode should list the movie as the next episode or not. The current standard has been to consider the movie as separate from the episodes, and this upcoming movie is listed and discussed at South Park (franchise) (since this is where the previous full-length animated movie is discussed), while some editors think it should be listed at List of South Park episodes and that the infobox of the most-recent episode of the show should list the movie as the next episode. To me, I guess a big determining factor in the matter will be whether or not the Post Covid movie has details/plotlines that reference the previous television episode, or if the plot of the made-for-TV movie stands alone. I'd love to hear some other opinions on the matter though. - SanAnMan ( talk) 16:54, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Full House#Requested move 25 November 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Hddty ( talk) 12:26, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi, wasn't Joe Straczybski's BABYLON-5 "a novel for television" [jms' own description] in the 1990s? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnny0634Cashx ( talk • contribs) 00:59, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Please comment on this discussion on articles about home media releases of films and tv shows. Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk) 02:30, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Thoughts on List of Judy Justice episodes existing as a separate article? -- / Alex/ 21 23:54, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Per the results of the recent RfC, WP:NTV is now a notability essay. It can be looked to for reference on notability matters, but do note it is simply an essay and not a notability guideline or WP:SNG. There were some good criticisms brought up in the RfC (such as possibly trying to emulate WP:NMUSIC's layout/format), but I feel now that this is an essay, it can still be worked on and expanded upon, which I would encourage from anyone interested. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 04:39, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Television episodes has been redirect to WP:NTVEP, removed from the project navigation template, and in the process of fixing any major incoming links. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 03:33, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Also for @ Bsems, MarcioRob24, Disney1024, Livelikemusic, Superman011, Lonniemitchell22, Jeremy Butler, EdrianJustine, WikiVirusC, Cleo20, TheTVExpert, and TomCat4680:, I happened to find this page while I also understand many had also agreed on fed up by the IP vandalisms, as suspected, the anonymous user had used too many IP addresses to keep revert the edits that also violate the WP:MOSTV guidelines. Well, I saw from one of the talk pages that time and suggested the same as I do, is a permanent indefinite semi-protection of all The Voice-related articles to counter the vandalism. I hope that this can raise the awareness and why the fight is still on. Do inform the Reality television task force as well. Thank you. TVSGuy ( talk) 12:40, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
There's a serious error in RT's entry about The Wheel of Time (TV series). Tomatometer is +15% off, so unless it became just a random number and not an actual percent of positive review, we need to remove it from art. about the series. I tried, but my edit was contested. Mithoron ( talk) 15:06, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Hey everyone, I've been working on a major update to the article 73rd Primetime Emmy Awards in order to bring it up to FL standards and hopefully set a better example for what these articles should look like. You can see my revisions here. If you have any suggestions or feedback, I'd really appreciate hearing them here. Thanks! RunningTiger123 ( talk) 20:01, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
What do you all think of this edit? The IP is adding a section called "Arabic-language adaptation", but the content, though written in English and seemingly constructive, appears incoherent - I reverted a similar edit a week ago - and from the overall dearth of footnotes, mostly unsourced. No doubt this needs to be better written if it's to be retained. (I decided to revert the edit, again.) MPFitz1968 ( talk) 18:00, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
Is there anything that should be done with these?... Each season article basically seems to be plots/statistics only, which is not encouraged per WP:PLOT. An IP has been attempting to add similar plots/statistics to the article for the 2021 reboot, but continues to be reverted has seems to have no intention of discussing the issue.
My best idea would probably be to just redirect all the season articles to Wipeout (2008 game show) (or Wipeout (2008 game show)#Episodes) unless there is better information/improvements to make instead.
Articles in question:
Thanks in advance. Magitroopa ( talk) 17:02, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
There is a titling RFC at Wikipedia talk:Article titles that will affect many articles at this project. There was discussion of making the RfC handled bit by bit before all projects understood the ramifications with entertainment being singled out next in a deleted draft, and other projects after that. Whether you agree or don't agree please join in the discussion for this massive Wikipedia change. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 10:33, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:Infobox television channel#RfC for removal of "Availability" section, which is about a template that is within the scope of this WikiProject. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:41, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure where to ask this, but I'm wondering if copying Netflix episode summaries are copyrighted and cannot be used for episode summaries. Outside of the copyright issue is the unencyclopedic tone of such summaries. Considering both issues together, I'm thinking they shouldn't be used at all, but I wanted to get some feedback on the question. — Torchiest talk edits 15:49, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I am writing this to flag an attention for this new user @ CreecregofLife: for reverting some of the edits including mine, claiming that the edits are not notable. I writing on this post is to let you all know, but reverting an edit is just too much and is beyond understanding the meaning on what is notable about. I'm not trying to be selfish, but given that he was a new user and his experiences, I leave you all to decide on that and just to let you know, Wikipedia is a place to edit and for contributions amd being civil, and not to plain revert because claiming notability is just as too much and it is not right at all. TVSGuy ( talk) 06:45, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
Is The Penthouse: War in Life#Cast listing and description going against the style guide in MOS:TVCAST given that it did mentioned that styling should be consistent throughout a given list while also showing 3 examples of what consistent is referring to. In case, my question is confusing, I mean:
if the example styling above is acceptable.
Thanks, — Paper9oll ( 🔔 • 📝) 06:23, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
What is the general WP:TV feeling on how to handle name/credit changes in the middle of TV series? I have always though that we should list by the name(s) first credited on the series, and then "note" any subsequent names/crediting. But I notice that The Witcher (TV series) is throwing that out the window, and is listing two actors by their season 2 credited names, rather than their season 1 credited names (without even including a note about the crediting changes).
Any thoughts on this? -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 17:29, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
As I did some research on Chevron Hall of Stars and Stage 7, I found that the former is essentially a subset of the latter. When Stage 7 was syndicated, some sponsors applied a title that reflected their sponsorship. The Billboard article 'Stage' Into Eleven Marts for Drewry's lists Chevron Hall of Stars as one example.
On November 22, 2021, I posted an item about possibly merging Chevron Hall of Stars into Stage 7 on Talk:Chevron Hall of Stars. No one has yet responded, so I thought I would ask here to see whether members of this project think a merger is appropriate. I have never done a merger, so perhas someone else could take charge if merging is favored. Eddie Blick ( talk) 21:14, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Greetings. For interested parties: there is currently a discussion at Patricia Routledge Talk Page on the defining term: "Comedian" in regards to actors / actresses starring in television sitcoms. Maineartists ( talk) 17:15, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
At Talk:List of Gogglebox episodes a couple of months ago, an IP tried to raise the issue of splitting what is quite a large episode list page. Stumbled across it while declining Draft:Lists of Gogglebox episodes (doesn't look like an improvement in structure), but attention to the situation would be good. — Bilorv ( talk) 11:41, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:High-dynamic-range video#Requested move 18 December 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 13:49, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
Is a project member able to upload the title card or promotional artwork for The Alaska Triangle's infobox? I should also note, the article is currently nominated for deletion, if folks care to weigh in on the ongoing discussion. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:24, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
While navigating the Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Television/archive 2 for precedents on an AfD I'm contemplating, I noticed that it was lagging my browser — because it is nearly 1 MB in length! We need to split it up more finely. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 01:29, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
In the following article, Deadline Hollywood claims there were 7 streaming TV series in the 2010–2011 (U.S.) TV season: [5] How do I figure out what these were?
There is no List of American streaming television series article. Surprisingly, there is no Category:Streaming television or something like Category:2010 American streaming television series debuts. (There is Category:Internet television in the United States, but doesn't break out series by year, and looks more like it's for "web series" than "streaming television series".)
So, any ideas here?
And are we missing out in not have a Category:Streaming television category tree?
P.S. I think one of them may be The Booth at the End, but it's unclear to me because it's not in any streaming TV categories! -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 03:57, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
More input would be appreciated: Talk:List of South Park episodes#Post Covid.
Thanks. -- Thibaut ( talk) 01:25, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Terrible section title, I know. But I was just looking for some opinions or options on how to handle a show airing episodes internationally before airing in its country of origin. Australian soap Neighbours has been airing four-times a week in Australia, but five-times a week in the UK in order to make up a gap caused by lockdown/COVID scheduling. The respective broadcasts have now caught up to each other, but Australia is sticking with the four episodes a week, so on 7 January, the UK will pull ahead for the first time. I was trying to think of examples of where something similar happened and my mind just drew a blank. I was wondering what to do about dates for things like character introductions or departures? Do we go by the UK dates or stick with Australia? And what happens if the UK pulls ahead by weeks rather than a couple of days? - JuneGloom07 Talk 04:00, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
AltDate
column for the air dates in that other country that is not the show's native country. --
IJBall (
contribs •
talk) 00:10, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
I started the merger discussion on the John Whaite article, located at Talk:List of The Great British Bake Off finalists#Merge John Whaite? George Ho ( talk) 23:45, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
I started a split discussion on the LGBT representation in children's television article, located at Talk:LGBT representation in children's television#Splitting proposal, proposing that parts of the "LGBT representation on Disney Channel" section about Disney animation be split out into another article titled "Disney and LGBT representation in animation". -- Historyday01 ( talk) 02:38, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk · contribs) recently unilaterally redirected a large number of his own articles on basis of lack of notability; a list can be seen at [6]. Also related is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Darwin's Yearbook, opened after I reverted their unilateral redirect for lack of explanation. I find their motion on Would You Fall for That?, a short-lived spinoff of What Would You Do? (2008 TV program) which was redirected to its parent show without adding any salvageable content to it or the relevant list of episodes. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 02:04, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
The article Fishing television series ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) states that "fishing television series" are TV shows about sport and recreational fishing, while Category:Fishing television series contains many TV shows about commercial fishing, as does {{ Fishing television}} (since 2009, when TV shows were added [7]); There's a discrepancy here. Is "Fishing television series" just about sport and recreational fishing, or does it also include commercial fishing. I will note that one of the most popular TV shows about fishing, The Deadliest Catch, is a commercial fishing TV show. -- 65.92.246.142 ( talk) 14:03, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
I have nominated Quatermass and the Pit for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. -- George Ho ( talk) 00:04, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
|via=
parameter is important and should be used as such, because YouTube is just a means on which you are viewing the content, not a publisher. -
Favre1fan93 (
talk) 19:59, 20 January 2022 (UTC)Why isn;t this template part of the drop-down list? - Jack Sebastian ( talk) 05:18, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Is Tom Jones (TV series) a real TV program? I couldn't verify the few sources it has, it is not listed on IMDb, it is not mentioned on Tom Jones (singer) and I couldn't find results when I googlged it. Gonnym ( talk) 13:30, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
References
Would appreciate more television editors to join the discusion over at Talk:List of South Park episodes#Post Covid. As a summery of the situation, we have 2 South Park articles South Park: Post Covid and South Park: Post Covid: The Return of Covid which use a mixture of both episode or film terminology and styles. For the most part they follow film and use film terminology, categories and italics, however they also use {{ Infobox television episode}} (instead of {{ Infobox television}} which is used for television films) which then calls them a "South Park episode" and use quotes at List of South Park episodes#Paramount+ films (2021). I don't have a stake in this and don't care if these are films or episodes, but this inconsistency should really be fixed. Gonnym ( talk) 10:56, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
Is there a 'correct' formatting for the cast/characters section on articles for animated series? Most of the examples at MOS:TVCAST are for liveaction shows, and I'm being told that the formatting style of "X (voiced by X)" is incorrect in regards to Big Nate (see talk page discussion). And if there is not a 'defined' formatting for this section on animated shows articles, should there be one decided on?... Magitroopa ( talk) 22:50, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
So I wanted to get some clarification regarding the proper end date to list for The Looney Tunes Show. To summarize, the series, like many animated series, was given a two-season order to begin, but because of mixed reception and audience fall-off wasn't picked up for further renewal after that. This had already been announced when the last-produced episode was aired in the US (the country of origin) in August 2013, but due to a variety of circumstances one episode was skipped in the original airing order and didn't air in the US until almost a year later (August 2014) when the series was being rerun. However, and this is the key point, the episode was not skipped in overseas markets (including Australia and New Zealand) and actually aired in correct sequence about 10 months before it actually aired in the US for the first time, in November 2013. So my question is which if the three dates is the proper one to use as the end date? oknazevad ( talk) 21:47, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
Input for this PR is welcome. SNUGGUMS ( talk / edits) 01:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
If you have an opinion, please share. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 15:33, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi all. I just took a look at Season 18 of The Voice, and found that basically none of the tables in the article comply with MOS:COLOR, specifically with the part of "Not using color as the only means to convey information". The teams table uses only color to signal whether a contestant was stolen, finalist, or at what point were they eliminated, and the auditions table uses color to distinguish which coach the artist chose (Yellow cell with a checkmark for the chosen coach, blank cell with a checkmar for the other coaches that turned their chairs), and for blocked coaches, a cross with four different colors depending on which coach blocked them. Then the battles tables use only color to distinguish whether an artist lost but was stolen, lost but was saved, or lost and was eliminated. I think it would be good to reassess how to make the tables more accessible in terms of use of color. Any thoughts? Not A Superhero ( talk) 05:16, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
Recently stumbled upon this mess of a template. Most "season" articles are filled with trivia. Take Power Rangers Zeo for example. It is almost entirely a list of characters with links to a list of episodes. Also keep in mind smaller seasons like this one from 2021, which links to not one but two different episode articles. Can anyone help merge them into their sub-articles? See this discussion about Pokemon articles for reference. Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk) 00:52, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Comment: @ Lado85 has begun reverting my edits and those by @ Onel5969. Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk) 20:10, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi everyone! Does anyone here know how we access the Broadcasters' Audience Research Board database? I'd like some stats for an article—which seems pretty common for TV series?—but it seems to be subscription only. Thanks in advance for any help! SN54129 19:13, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
See Talk:ViacomCBS Networks International#New name and Talk:Paramount Global#Mass unsourced page moves of ex-ViacomCBS subsidiaries. Thibaut ( talk) 22:10, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi, Project Team experts.
I tried to let Wikidata populate the Template:Epguides item in Quantum Leap External links. It did not work, just went to the general Epguides.com website. I checked the entry in WIKIDATA Quantum Leap (Q230506), and it appears to have the correct "Epguides ID", being "QuantumLeap", as when I hit on that ID in wikidata.org it does go the the specific Epguides webpage for Quantum Leap.
Am I using the Template:Epguides incorrectly? Must I always include the "|id=SeriesName" in the template?
While the documentation (unlike some other templates of this type) does not show the "if you do not enter an ID, wikidata will do it all for you" (my words) option, the Template:Epguides documentation does have a Hatnote that includes the words "and ease of interoperability with Wikidata", which suggests that it is intended to read wikidata on its own, implying "if you do not enter an ID, wikidata will do it all for you" is a go.
(See how I used "suggests" and "implying" instead of "I assume"? Fooled myself into believing that you would not notice, but you probably caught me out on that.)
Thanks, in advance, for your guidance. Jmg38 ( talk) 05:56, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
It was brought to my attention by C933103 that the section of television topics in Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Society and social sciences is larger than the intended quota for the entire category, largely because of the listing of 230 different U.S. TV shows. (There are 485 TV items out of 822 total, and the quota for the whole category of "Journalism and mass media" is 475.) Is it possible to review this and trim down the list? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:54, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
I have nominated Truthiness for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. – Kavyansh.Singh ( talk) 08:53, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Please see Talk:A_Discovery_of_Witches_(TV_series)#RFC for discussion on the article's lead. Reywas92 Talk 14:15, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi all, this discussion regards my recent updates to {{ Episode table/part}}. I've updated the template to use more intuitive parameters, but not yet deprecating them, so nothing will be broken when I begin the changes throughout articles. (You can see this at User:Alex 21/sandbox2; the current parameters are used above the black header, and the new parameters are below, all parameters still actively work.)
To begin, we can see the following different types of episode table subheaders:
No. | Title | Directed by | Written by | Original air date | ||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
' | ||||||||||||
' | ||||||||||||
' | ||||||||||||
' | ||||||||||||
' |
These are respectively generated with the following code, which is what we actively use at the moment:
{{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|p=1}} {{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|p=Volume 1|nopart=y}} {{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|p=Chapter 1|nopart=y}} {{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|p=Chapter 1: ''The End''|nopart=y}} {{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|p=''The End''|nopart=y}}
So, each time we want to update from "Part" to any other type, such as "Chapter" or "Volume", we need to override the |p=
parameter and always set |nopart=y
. However, these changes implement more intuitive parameters, so that the following codes gives the same results as above:
{{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|part=1}} {{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|volume=1}} {{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|chapter=1}} {{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|chapter=1|subtitle=The End}} {{Episode table/part|c=#442B1A|subtitle=The End}}
This means we now have actual parameters for Part, Volume and Chapter (|part=
, |volume=
and |chapter=
), and a parameter for a subtitle, no matter what "part" term we're using, even if we're not using one at all (|subtitle=
). We no longer need to override the |p=
parameter, and this deprecates the need for |nopart=y
. These parameters can now be actively used, and they will be updated in due time, so we can deprecate the original basic parameters.
If you have any questions, concerns, or suggestions, please let me know! -- Alex_21 TALK 02:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Geo TV#Requested move 18 February 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 17:55, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Hotstar#Requested move 2 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 03:56, 9 March 2022 (UTC), Adding WP Television to this. AngusW🐶🐶F ( bark • sniff) 15:16, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Janani Iyer#Requested move 17 February 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 22:11, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Encounter (Canadian TV series)#Requested move 7 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 19:34, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:I Can See Your Voice (German season 2)#Requested move 9 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 20:13, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
I'm trying to cleanup the Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards article at the moment... As I'm cleaning up the infobox, I (personally) feel like the image should be changed in the infobox, possibly to the award itself? Similar to Grammy Awards, Tony Awards, Academy Awards, etc. Seems a bit weird (at least to me) to have the infobox image being a random image of a performance that took place at one of the ceremonies from over 10 years ago (2009 ceremony, to be exact).
I'm honestly not the best with images/copyright/etc, so I don't know what can/can't be used, but if possible, I'm thinking either this image (from this article) or the image from this article.
And yes, I know it would likely be more appropriate to bring this to the article's talk page first, but given the fact that the latest three discussions on there are all from me and currently garnered no responses, seems like I'll be more likely to get help/an answer here.
Thanks in advance. Magitroopa ( talk) 21:31, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Is there anyone exploring the maintenance of articles relating to television in South Korea? I see too many redlinks, especially in navbox templates where usage is misleading, and articles that could easily be redirected to main broadcasting corporations as they've been left unsourced for maybe years. Thanks for any assistance provided in the matter. Jalen Folf (talk) 17:30, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
I started a discussion at the following link: Talk:Survivor (American TV series)#DVD covers. -- George Ho ( talk) 06:40, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
Hey all! My name is Gen. Quon and I'm currently a Wikipedia editor and PhD student working on a dissertation about information behavior of fan editors on Wikipedia. (Although I'm using "fan" fairly broadly, I intend to focus on media fans, so people who like music, movies, TV shows, books, etc. are all a-go.) Here's more info on my project, if you're curious. As evidenced by my edit history, I've been reaching out to folks who work on pop culture articles and seeing if they'd be interested in chatting with me about their experiences on the site. I was wondering if anyone who is a part of this WikiProject might be interested in chatting with me? If so, reply here, drop me a message on my talk page, or use the WP email function! I'd love to hear what you have to say. (Note: I posted a similar message over at the WikiProject Music page; just a heads up!)-- Gen. Quon [Talk] (I'm studying Wikipedia!) 13:54, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Emily VanDerWerff § Emily St. James. — Bilorv ( talk) 10:07, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Since the websites parameters have been removed from the infobox and it's now handled by Wikidata, I've noticed some of the links for websites are either outdated, dead, or redirects. If the official website is dead or no longer working, should we just be removing the link from Wikidata? What's the process here? Thanks. Drovethrughosts ( talk) 12:36, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
and it's now handled by Wikidata, that's only happening per the way the infobox is currently coded given the removal of the parameters. The full "External links" section of the infobox and website parameters will be removed once the bot finishes so you won't be seeing those Wikidata instances anymore. See here for more. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:19, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
A request for comment that may interest members of this project has been opened at Talk:Donald Trump § RfC: Should the lead section have any citations?. –– FormalDude talk 19:51, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Maō (TV series)#Requested move 24 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 18:20, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a deletion discussion here about the show Can You Duet. While the show lasted for two seasons, it seems to have garnered no coverage as I've dissected in the AFD. I would appreciate more eyes on the AFD to judge the validity of the sources already there and prove or disprove the existence of further sources. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 17:06, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Hey, there's a discussion over at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Television#Clarification on order of sections about what order to place sections (particularly episodes and cast) in television series articles. JDDJS ( talk to me • see what I've done) 01:40, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
I've been eyeing some modifications to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (broadcasting), and I've put the largest of them up for project discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Television stations task force#Network, channel, or station? Looking for thoughts related to our use of disambiguators and definitions, especially "TV network" versus "TV channel". Your comments and suggestions are welcome. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:45, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Routine coverage for a series are production announcements (orders, castings, etc.). As @ Toddst1 put it, who cares? Citing WP:NOTGOSSIP, the editor removed this information from Outer Range as well as filming dates and locations, writing, "it was filmed. BFD". Thoughts? Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk) 15:32, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Could I get some more television minded folks to look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bounty Hunters (American TV series) in order to help establish a better consensus? My main concern here is that the show was too short-lived to have garnered any media coverage. Thanks. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 21:16, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
This message provides notice that I have started an RfC at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (broadcasting)#2022 revision proposal on a proposed rewrite/update to the text of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (broadcasting). Your comments are welcome. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:55, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
The main page for the
Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/Idols task force, states that "This WikiProject is believed to be inactive." Left a message in their
talk page, just in case someone still goes there. In case they don't, one of you who work the overarching WikiProject Television might care that the
Template:AI contestant no longer works, as the underlying template data http://archive.americanidol.com
no longer exists.
Jmg38 (
talk) 07:57, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
A discussion was recently restarted between YoungForever and I about the graphs used for ratings at Talk:List of Chicago Med episodes#Ratings table. A discussion of some nature was also done here between Alex 21 and I back in 2017. YoungForever and I came to the conclusion that rating graphs provide no new content and could borderline WP:FANCRUFT. Additionally, they provide major accessibility issues. One, the X axis of such graph is totally obliterated after a certain number of episodes. Secondly, the width of the graph exceeds the HTML and CSS code and causes vertical overflow on all devices. Additionally, some episode list pages include another table right under such graph with the exact same content, which again borderlines WP:FANCRUFT. It restates the same content from episode summaries and the first graph itself. Here are some examples I've gathered so far:
For that, I propose that some guidelines be tabled for such use:
1. Such graphs and tables be removed
2. Use of tables such as
List of Station 19 episodes#Ratings instead.
3. Reliable sources demonstrate notability of viewership trends
4. Once a certain number of episodes has been reached that causes accessibility issues, the graphs be moved into individual season pages.
There is no consistency on their uses on pages, so it seems that they're just being applied without appropriate regard to WP:FANCRUFT. Any other proposals are welcome to establish proper guidelines for their uses. Callmemirela 🍁 talk 21:18, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
There was quite an internet hullabaloo when Wilford Brimley was given a title card tribute at the end of Season 3 episode 9 (August 2020) without ever appearing on an episode of Yellowstone (American TV series). It appears to me that he subsequently was included in a couple of scenes of Season 4 episode 5, which was released in November 2021. However, his filmography table on WP does not list this and IMDb does not list this. What is up?- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:01, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Hey everyone at WP TV, There is a new Wikiproject proposal for 20th Century Studios. (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/20th Century Studios) So if you are interested in joining please say so in the proposal, so we can see if there will be enough member to start a project. ― Kaleeb18 TalkCaleb 21:01, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Additional viewpoints would be welcome at Talk:Estelle Harris#Reliably reported content connecting the subject's death with that of her costar, which is currently basically a two-person back-and-forth. Cheers! BD2412 T 00:50, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Additional viewpoints would be welcome at Talk:List of awards and nominations received by Better Call Saul. An IP has started a discussion about whether an Emmy Award awarded to a promo of Better Call Saul should be listed. Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk) 14:46, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
I've started a page for Yakamoz S-245 in draft: Draft:Yakamoz S-245. Consider contributing! This particularly needs referencing (which I suspect folks here have a good handle on!) Jodi.a.schneider ( talk) 13:35, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
I've created a new stub called Everything's Gonna Be All White. I've added 9 references to the article and have added the infobox as well as the overview, cast, episodes and reception sections, but the article still needs some work like expanding and the episode list reformatted to the correct format. — Mythdon ( talk • contribs) 19:15, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:TBS (American TV channel)#Requested move 16 April 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 08:51, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
I fell down a rabbit hole of TV series navigational boxes that led me to discover a crapton of unsourced, undersourced, underused, and possibly non-notable TV shows. You can find my list here. I've already taken a crack at a few and would appreciate any help in source-hunting since some of these genuinely do seem to fail notability guidelines. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 05:58, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2022 May 1, where I have nominated several television screenshots that fail WP:NFCC#8 for deletion. These include images of characters staring, walking, and talking to one another. Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk) 23:43, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
)and turns it into something like
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{ cite web}}, {{ cite journal}} and {{ doi}}.
The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.
This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
There are 146 articles PRODded by TenPoundHammer ( talk · contribs) on April 24 [8] that were deprodded by NemesisAT ( talk · contribs) on the 30th due to concerns that too many articles were PRODded at once. These articles were deprodded in alphabetical order, including given names and articles, so this list will also be alphabetized. 14 of these articles have been AfD'd by TPH and one by me. I'm not 1000% certain about the fate of the rest. Most of the entries have few or no sources. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 06:59, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
Recently I went through redirecting a bunch of Heroes (American TV series) episodes because they were composed almost entirely of fancruft. Dream Focus ( talk · contribs) undid most of the redirects, saying that reviews from IGN and AV Club made the episodes notable.
My read of WP:NEPISODE is that just a review or two isn't enough. Dream Focus says it is. Is this down to just personal opinion, or is an episode not notable unless there is coverage beyond just a couple of reviews? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 06:12, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
"The film is widely distributed and has received full-length reviews by two or more nationally known critics."The "nationally known critics" is to weed out using minor internet-only reviews to try to qualify a minor film for an article. WP:NTV should mirror that, to keep out using garbage like AV Club (which has internet randos reviewing everything). IOW, if it's not getting reviewed in Variety/Entertainment Weekly/LA Times/etc, the review is likely minor and doesn't meaningfully contribute to the "significant coverage in reliable sources" benchmark. -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 03:34, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
Should the Millennium (miniseries) be turned into Millennium (film series)? I understand that the miniseries won awards and that may lead some to consider it notable to stand on its own, but they're the original films only extended and edited into a TV miniseries. Outside of Europe, it has been reformatted and released back into a film trilogy, at least according to IGN. Moving the article might give more room to add more relevant production information and reception of the individual films. Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 08:03, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Notability#Notability of television episodes in regards to WP:NTV and WP:NEPISODE in particular. Editors of this project may be interested to participate. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 15:49, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Hey, discussions regarding replacing Template:episode table with a different table at Inside No. 9 Indagate ( talk) 08:42, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
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For anyone who's familiar with sourcing UK viewer ratings through BARB, do they no longer provide 28-day viewer ratings? This is their primary page for ratings data, but I don't seem to be able to find the relevant 28-day option anymore. -- Alex_21 TALK 01:33, 15 May 2022 (UTC)