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The article Adam Wiercinski is currently in AfD at /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Adam_Wiercinski Tkuvho ( talk) 12:33, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
There is a move request in progress regarding this article. Please could members of this project comment on this over at Talk:Cholov Yisroel#Requested move 31 December 2013. Many thanks — Amakuru ( talk) 15:46, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
This Judaism-related article is currently nominated for possible deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to share your opinion. - Shalom11111 ( talk) 22:38, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone know if this section removal makes sense? The removed text has three sources but non of them are online so I can't easily check them. Yaris678 ( talk) 20:12, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm having a problem on the article Caleb with a new editor who is edit warring what looks to me like an original Hebrew derivation for the name "Caleb". The only interpretation I'm certain of is already referenced to the JE, but if anyone can find anything more substantial in RSS it would help... Til Eulenspiegel / talk/ 17:51, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
User:IZAK has recently added Category:Kabbalistic words and phrases to articles about Kabbalistic books? We discussed this a little bit on his talkpage, because I disagree with that, and decided to ask for broader input here. Debresser ( talk) 06:33, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
To cut the chase. I disagree that titles of books, e.g. Sefer HaBahir, become kabbalistic terms in themselves. Debresser ( talk) 06:52, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Wondering if anyone had particular views on whether the concept of " blood libel" should get at least a passing mention in blood or not. Discussion on Talk:Blood about this. JFW | T@lk 17:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Today's_featured_article/requests#Afroyim_v._Rusk.
Thank you for your consideration,
— Cirt ( talk) 01:08, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
Category:Children of Holocaust survivors has been proposed for deletion. Anyone interested in commenting can do so here __ E L A Q U E A T E 05:49, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
The article for Will Eisner's graphic novel A Contract with God has recently become a Good Article. I'm planning on nominating it as a Featured Article Candidate and would appreciate any feedback to help it get there. The Peer Review is here, so please stop by! Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 08:18, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Editors are invited to visit Talk:SodaStream where a lively discussion is going on. Tkuvho ( talk) 18:24, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
same old - more watchlisters needed. In ictu oculi ( talk) 11:03, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
I was wondering if someone could write an article on the History of the Jews in Baltimore? Along the lines of this article or this article. I would make it myself, but I don't think I'm the best person for the job. Thanks. Solar-Wind ( talk) 16:02, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Greetings! The Sefer haYashar disambiguation page has had over a dozen links pointing to it for several months. Any help in fixing those links would be appreciated. Cheers! bd2412 T 04:34, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Many articles reference the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia which is sadly rather out of date. The definitive resource should be Encyclopedia Judaica, 2007 which is now available online free.
http://www.bjeindy.org/resources/library/encyclopediajudaica/
Using the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia should be discouraged. Not only is it out of date but using it also causes articles to sound like they were written a hundred years ago. I added Encyclopedia Judaica, 2007 to resources I would suggest removing the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia
Jonney2000 ( talk) 05:25, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
often reflecting its 19th century Wissenschaft des Judentums bias. Can you please elaborate? הסרפד ( call me Hasirpad) 19:59, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks to the user who pointed out that Encyclopedia Judaica (EJ) is COPYRIGHTED 2007 by Keter Publishing House, while the century+ old Jewish Encyclopedia (JE) is 100% in the public domain and can be used at will! How silly that this should be overlooked but of course then picked up on WP of all places which itself spends so much time with clarifying that its materials can be used. And one has to LAUGH as one reads all the comments attacking the use of encyclopedias OF ALL THINGS as if WP has some sort of self-annointed, self-righteous, self-important " papal infallibility" and is "something else" -- clearly a case of "loss of perspective" + "believing your own propaganda" + "the pot calling the kettle black" + ""people who live in glass houses should not throw stones" etc! What will WP people think of and say next?! To Sirpad, what JFW is saying is that the JE has an obvious slant, it has its manner of violating WP:POV, and its something that can and should be fixed or improved, and that is the tough job of WP editors. IZAK ( talk) 05:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Genocide definitions, Definitions of pogrom and Definitions of fascism are suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Genocide definitions until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Oncenawhile ( talk) 09:53, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
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Please see: (1) Category:Holy Land during Byzantine rule, CfD; (2) Category:Centuries in Israel, CfD; (3) Category:Medieval Israel, CfD. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 10:02, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
An RfC has been opened at Talk:Pogrom, regarding the appropriate WP:LSC for the events listed. Comments are requested with thanks. Oncenawhile ( talk) 11:45, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Requested move of Kosher tax (antisemitic canard), discussion. IZAK ( talk) 08:09, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
moved from Talk:Judaism. Thanks Debresser, I'm an idiot
This article is a messy amalgam of three different concepts. I've proposed splitting it and making the page a disambiguation at Talk:Shaddai. Please contribute to the discussion. -- Dweller ( talk) 10:39, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
For information that is widely available, such as that there are two berachos before Kriyas Shema, which types of sources are best to use?
Which types are the most preferable? (feel free to mention any I forgot to list) -- Ypnypn ( talk) 17:53, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
If possible, regardless of the language issues, it's always better to cite a secondary source that describes something about a primary source, rather than the primary source itself. It's not always possible, but surely this must be a case where it is...? I'd go for the third or fourth options, otherwise the siddur itself, like StevenJ81 suggests. The Mishnah Berurah (and even more so the Mishnah!) isn't a great choice because in many cases some or all strands of orthodoxy don't follow its rulings. -- Dweller ( talk) 16:50, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Something weird going on in footnotes 4 and 5. Seems like someone's trying to prove that Hillel said things before the Koran did, but it's poorly explained, in the wrong place, fairly baffling and, it would seem, unnecessary. -- Dweller ( talk) 13:56, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Is this organisation actually notable enough for an article of its own? Dougweller ( talk) 15:29, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
An IP, asserting the Jews are not an ethnicity (despite me pointing him here), is making deletions based on this assertion, as here.-- Epeefleche ( talk) 02:55, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
I saw the ["Members"] list at Portal:Judaism/Information and I was going to ask for some advice -- about how to "decide" whether to add my name to that list.
However, when I went to the "Talk:" page there ( Portal_talk:Judaism/Information), it was empty, and it seemed to be sorta recommending this page instead.
Any advice? Thank you. -- Mike Schwartz ( talk) 00:59, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
I've put the article for Will Eisner's 1978 graphic novel A Contract with God up as a Featured Article Candidate. Everyone is encouraged to participate in the review at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/A Contract with God/archive1. Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 12:44, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Dear editors: Here's an old Afc submission that will soon be deleted as a stale draft unless someone decides that it's a notable topic and fixes it up to the point that it can be added to the encyclopedia. Any takers? — Anne Delong ( talk) 17:31, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
I was wondering if Wikiproject Judiasm could review the article on Quds Day for bias. The article describes Qud's day as a protest to "express solidarity with the Palestinian people and oppose Zionism", while giving no criticism over the holiday's links to terrorist organizations and militant antisemitism. Monochrome Monitor ( talk) 01:57, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
CorinneSD has requested help via the {{ help}} template at User talk:CorinneSD#Merkabah mysticism regarding a Hebrew translation, more specifically the spelling, at Merkabah mysticism. Would someone more knowledgeable of the subject matter here be able to help them out? Thank you, Mkdw talk 19:33, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Handwashing in Jewish Law. FoCuSandLeArN ( talk) 21:25, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Please see:
Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 05:18, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jewish poetry from Al-Andalus. FoCuSandLeArN ( talk) 19:58, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Here is a discussion w/regard to changing the cats for Jewish people killed in the Holocaust.-- Epeefleche ( talk) 21:16, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
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I'm not challenging the list but it is unsourced, lists 1 to 58 and then jumps to 112 which goes up to the current Samaritan High Priest - why the gap? I note that none but the most recent names have links, which surprises me. Dougweller ( talk) 12:02, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Dear editors: Here's an old Afc submission that will soon be deleted as a stale draft unless someone takes an interest in it. Is this a notable topic, and should the page be saved and improved? — Anne Delong ( talk) 02:34, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
I am trying to perfect the references in the article on Aaron; however I am not knowledgeable about the scriptures and other holy writings of the Jewish faith. Could someone who knows these and has some time either work with me or finish what I have started. I am trying to either link directly to the necessary passage like the {{Bibleref}} template does or the {{cite Quran}}, or reference a book that has the passages in it, preferably with the page numbers, so people like me can verify references and such. I do apologize for my ignorance on the subject. speednat ( talk) 19:56, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello, Judaism experts. The above old AfC submission will soon be deleted as a stale draft. Right now "Holy Incense" redirects to Incense offering. There appears to be some information in the old draft that is not in the mainspace article; perhaps someone at this project will be able to tell if it's useful and properly sourced. — Anne Delong ( talk) 19:45, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Please excuse me presenting a problem from the German Wikipedia here, but it seems, it requires a broader audience.
In the introductional sentences of biographical articles of the German Wikipedia, since 2002 the genealogical symbols star "*" for "born on" and cross "†" for "died on" are used, according to de:Wikipedia:Formatvorlage/Biografie. The unique use of these symbols has been confirmed in several user polls since 2005, the last accepted poll was de:Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Form der Lebensdaten in der Einleitung von Personenartikeln in April 2014, with a vote of 40.9% : 59.1% against a new form without star and cross.
The cross as a genealogical symbol for "died on" has been used by German Protestants since about 1600, like in Family trees and official Parish registers. By the second half of the 18th century, the cross symbol was taken over by scientific genealogists like Johann Christoph Gatterer. The combination of star and cross is first known from a Handlexikon für evangelische Theologen, Gotha 1891.
Star and cross symbols were used since 1896 in the Deutsches Geschlechterbuch, an extensive genealogical encyclopedia of bourgeois or patrician families from several German regions and cities, issued by the Berlin sited genealogical association Herold. The editions of Deutsches Geschlechterbuch appeared over years with antisemitic prefaces by the editor de:Bernhard Koerner.
However, Stephan Kekulé von Stradonitz, member of the association Herold, a political conservative and opponent of antisemitism, in 1909 proposed a genealogical sign language for general use, including star and cross symbols, which he hoped would be used internationally. Kekulé wrote an entry on genealogical symbols for Meyers Konversations-Lexikon in 1910, and in the 1920, both Meyers Konversations-Lexikon and the rivaling Brockhaus Enzyklopädie started to use cross and star for biographic articles.
After 1945, several general and encyclopaedias in German have been using the genealogic symbols for biographies. However, in academic fields like Jewish studies, Oriental studies, Holocaust studies etc. the symbols are not used. Genealogical symbols did not spread internationally. The fourth international congress for Genealogy and Heraldry at Bruxelles in 1958 proposed abreviations with small letters like "b" for born and "d" for "died" which however have not been generally applied either since.
Several Jews have spoken out against using the cross symbol in biographies of Jewish persons, e.g. in 1978 in Udim, journal of the Rabbi conference in the Federal Republic of Germany. Scholars of Islam like de:Patrick Franke spoke out against the use of the cross too. In particular, the use of the cross for articles on Jewish persons in Wikipedia has been critisized e.g. in 2012 by Björn Beck, member of the Jewish community of Wiesbaden. And in a [http://www.jewiki.net/wiki/Benutzer:Michael_K%C3%BChntopf/WP-Kreuzthematik#Antworten survey] from February 2014, 25 participants have critisized the use of the cross for articles on Jews in Wikipedia, among them several Rabbis, de:Stephan J. Kramer, former general secretary of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, and other relevant persons.
de:Wikipedia:Formatvorlage/Biografie would allow exceptions, when it can't be applied in "usefull" manner. However, it is still close to impossible to write a biographic article in the German Wikipedia without star and cross symbols. A majority of administrators either block the editor who tries to change an article, or temporarilly block the article, usually in a version with star and cross. These administrator decisions are justified by referring the results of the user polls.
At the moment, the problem is part of an ongoing abitration commitee request de:Wikipedia:Schiedsgericht/Anfragen/Verbindlichkeit der Formatvorlage Biografie.
The wmf:Non discrimination policy, approved by the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustee in January 2006, actually "prohibits discrimination against current or prospective users and employees". One question under discussion is, whether this non discrimination policy also applies to the content of Wikipedia articles, and could be used to overrule the use poll results, in the case of articles, where a format with star and cross could be considered as discriminating, Rosenkohl ( talk) 16:48, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
The point of any non discrimination measure in a democracy would be to protect the interests of a quantitative minority against the vote of a quantitative majority. So it seems at least the following should hold:
1. wmf:Non discrimination policy applies to content of Wikipedia articles about real persons, and overrules user polls of local projects.
2. External objections, whether stated in the public or addressed at Wikipedia, against the use of genealogical symbols in certain articles, have to be taken into account,
3. Alternative formats without genealogical symbols should be used for an article, if there are valid objections against possible discriminations.
Rosenkohl ( talk) 18:04, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
An IP editor recently made major changes to Mashhadi Jews. [5] The changes are unsourced and written in an unencyclopedic tone, and should probably be reverted, but the older version isn't sourced either. The article has been in this condition since it was first split off as a fork from Allahdad incident on 28 April 2012. [6] Sources exist, such as [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] The article would benefit from some serious attention from experienced editors. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 22:19, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
The Mimouna article uses the terms Moroccan, Maghrebi, and North African interchangeably. Which one is it? These are three distinct regions. The Maghreb is within North Africa and Morocco is within the Maghreb. -- PiMaster3 talk 10:54, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bible#Page move request for Sirach. Dougweller ( talk) 11:48, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello, everyone. Here's another of those old abandoned AfC submissions. It will be deleted as a stale draft unless someone takes an interest in it and edits it. Is this a notable subject that should be kept and improved? — Anne Delong ( talk) 17:47, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Haredi Judaism#Lack of WP:NPOV in this article. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 06:50, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Leaving aside for a moment the bad name, is this worth developing as a real article on a "social group", separate from the Haredi Judaism article?-- Pharos ( talk) 12:04, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
Please see note at #Lack of WP:NPOV in Haredi Judaism article below. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 06:51, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
What do the expert editors think of the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History of the Jews in Nepal? What should be included or excluded as part of Jewish history? Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 08:05, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
There is now an RfC about the name for History of the Jews in Nepal (after there was a vote to Keep the title and the name), see Talk:History of the Jews in Nepal#RfC: Should we change article name to 'Judaism in Nepal'?. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 12:12, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
There is now an official WP:Deletion review, see Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2014 June 30#History of the Jews in Nepal. Thanks, IZAK ( talk) 13:28, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello. Is there really no article about the three murdered Israeli teenagers, or is it that I haven't found it yet? If there isn't one, I think it should definitely be created. I'm not quite certain how to name/start it, but I'd be happy to add more info once it is here. I've added a bit about it on Beth Jacob Congregation (Beverly Hills, California). It should also definitely make it to the "in the news" section on the frontpage. Please let me know if you can help. Zigzig20s ( talk) 12:05, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Considering the Nepal case above and general issues with this type of title, do we want to consider a new standard for naming this kind of culture-by-country article?
Some options that occur to me, that might be broader, or just less awkward:
NOTE: @ Yoninah:, @ Debresser:, @ Pharos:, @ Malik Shabazz:: Please see Template {{ Jews and Judaism category tree}} to understand the hierarchy of the naming system for CATEGORIES in place on WP for basically a decade! Do not try to "fix" ten years of hard work that is built on good foundations. You need to understand the nature of the parent category, and the sub-categories and the sub-sub-categories that proceed from that!!! The category names do not match with actual articles all the time for many reasons, but the system has worked perfectly and there is no need to change it now for any reason. Any attempt to change the names will cause mass confusion and havoc and few will be able to untangle or even understand the ensuing mess that would follow or to fix all the loose ends it will unleash like opening a huge can of worms! There are reasons why "Jews and Judaism" cannot be the best category for "Jews history" simply because Jewish history includes events, personalities, including gentiles and secular events and factors that go beyond just Jews and Judaism, but they do fit perfectly in the Jewish history of [[History of the Jews in ____" (continent/region/country/city). See my fuller additional explanation below. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 22:10, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
For the sake of understanding the differences between the topics of Jews, Judaism, and Jewish history (not to mention Israel) and to avoid confusing them or "combining" them, and in order to keep the articles and categories relating to them separate and clear, it is important to know and understand the following navigational template {{ Jews and Judaism category tree}} produced in full below. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 22:18, 11 July 2014 (UTC):
Parent:
Category:Jews and Judaism (by: country, place, region, topic) [Main container category | |||||||||||||||||||||
Child:
Category:Jews (by: country, place; also: biographies, lists, categories of individuals) [Main container subcategory | Child:
Category:Judaism (by: country, place; also: denominations, religious topics, religious texts, synagogues, yeshivas, schools, rabbis) [Main container subcategory | Child:
Category:Jewish history (by: country, region, era; also: all secular topics) [Main container subcategory | |||||||||||||||||||
I could use help adding this Jewish-American World Record parachutist who was known as the "Lindbergh of Russia" for which he spent 18 years in Gulag, to appropriate Jewish Categories, Projects and back-links. Thanks. -- Green C 02:55, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello there! Would anyone be interested in adding referenced to this nomination? Seems like a valuable article to keep. King's Highway (ancient). Regards, CesareAngelotti ( talk) 14:30, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Dear editors: This article was created last year, but never submitted for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Is this a notable writer, and should the article be kept and improved instead of being deleted as a stale draft? — Anne Delong ( talk) 02:12, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello, A discussion is taking place for era-style consensus for article Book of Isaiah so see the article's talk page. Era-style is inconsistent, and ignore the recent era changes done in the article because there was no consensus approved yet. -- JudeccaXIII ( talk) 03:00, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello, A discussion is taking place for era-style consensus for article Ezra–Nehemiah so see the article's talk page. The era-style is inconsistent. -- JudeccaXIII ( talk) 23:41, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
User Namiba ( talk · contribs) aka "TM", seems to have started an arbitrary process of eliminating articles about Orthodox Judaism synagogues from Category:Orthodox synagogues in the United States, he was requested to stop this process of mass nominations for deletions without further discussions and requests for improvement of the articles. So far he has nominated for deletion these articles: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beth HaMedrosh Hagodol-Beth Joseph & Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Congregation Tiferes Yisroel (2nd nomination) & Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anshei Sfard (Louisville, Kentucky) & Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Congregation Arugas Habosem that looks like its heading for mass deletions in this area. The nominator was requested to consider WP:DONOTDEMOLISH and WP:CHANCE and to please start a discussion or a WP:RFC if he feels such articles are not up to snuff at a venue of his choosing, or at WP:TALKJUDAISM that would make the most sense. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 03:57, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
User
Namiba (
talk ·
contribs) (aka "TM") has nominated for deletion a number of articles from
Category:Orthodox synagogues in the United States. It would be best to ask for help from the articles' creators and other editors to improve the articles first or seek input from
WP:EXPERT editors here at
WP:TALKJUDAISM before resorting to such drastic measures as mass deletions of years worth of work on WP.
IZAK (
talk) 04:14, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
IZAK’s exhortations notwithstanding, no one filing PRODs or AfDs are required to obtain any WikiProject’s permission before so doing, they’re not asked to jump through hoops not required of them by WP:Deletion policy, they’re not required to wait for a response from the article creators, they're not required to be a frequent contributor to the pertinent WikiProject, there doesn’t need to be a critical mass of active editors from an associated WikiProject, and the only one who seems to be seeking a “war” is IZAK himself ... not for the first time.
That being said, it’s peculiar that IZAK is using up so much time and energy sounding the trumpets – never mind his outrageous suggestion that we shouldn’t be deleting articles about synagogues because of Israel’s political situation – instead of doing a very simple thing that would guarantee the retention of these articles: source them. Sorry, but sourcing articles is not some vast chore: five minutes is usually all it takes to come up with a couple reliable sources which satisfy the GNG in all but the most obstinate of articles. What’s stopping him from doing so? Why is he using all this time and effort to raise the battle flags instead of bothering? Ravenswing 07:00, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
That being said, no, my response is NOT absurd: you quite frequently resort to claiming bias, anti-Semitism or other sinister motive to those seeking to delete Judaism-related articles ... unless you're seeking to delete them yourself. Ravenswing 08:43, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
@ Ravenswing: see my responses below. I reject all your allegations, so far you have not made one constructive suggestion, just bossing around and "issuing commands" and not so veiled threats leaving people no options achieves nothing. No need to duplicate every last word. Thanks, IZAK ( talk) 11:05, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
@ Namiba:(aka "TM"); @ Soman:; @ Stevietheman:; @ Pharos:; @ Yoninah:: quite frankly this is not the best time to start a move to delete any synagogue articles given that the current Israel-Gaza conflict is now so hot that it is spilling over into attacks on synagogues in France, see Protesters scuffle with police at Paris synagogues (AP, July 13, 2014), and the problem is growing, so it behooves any editor undertaking such deletions to proceed with great care in order to avoid any semblance of impropriety until the temperature surrounding the role and place of synagogues as current flashpoints of conflict stops. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 22:33, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
@ Ravenswing: it is really fascinating to hear your lectures about how to use WP, and feel free to dredge up the " Original sin" whilst your at it, if that is what makes you happy, but this is what's going on here in spite of your attempts to derail this discussion: 1 The only thing I DO look at is Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Judaism and on that NONE of the PRODS were there AFAIK. 2 You also know full-well that articles have been coming in from the time of WP's inception when policies were not well-formulated and now even editors who are not experts in WP policy also contribute articles. 3 Many editors are new and we must just WP:AGF and follow WP:DONOTBITE even long after they have moved on their early work remains, and it is the job of more experienced editors to be more careful and welcoming and not act destructively, otherwise this encyclopedia will never be built up. 4 How anyone uses their time on WP is their own private business! In any case a lot of my edits are corrections of minor spelling and typos that I try to fix. I devote various chunks of time to various aspects, and it is not anyone's business to tell others how to allocate their VOLUNTEER and FREE OF CHARGE time on WP, to do so would be a violation of WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA and the mark of an ingrate. 5 In this instance I see an egregious misuse of AfDs and PRODs that are counter-productive and harmful to developing the subject of synagogues on WP. That someone is WP:IJUSTDONTLIKEIT is their problem and no one else's. 6 Thus, the problem here is that the PRODs came up so quickly within a day or two 8 articles put up as PRODs in addition to the 7 AfDs to contend with (we do not have supermen and superwomen to edit at such a speedy rate -- your "calculations" to contrary) and the notifications went to long-dormant and inactive users that it was impossible to know about them, let alone try to improve them. 7 On top of that there are few willing and able good Judaic editors on standby in this area who can do the job. 8 That is why my complaint is against the improper brutal and blunt process being deployed here by User Namiba ( talk · contribs) by not creating the right venue to start a discussion about improving the articles. It's like having a gun pointed at one's head and then have no choices, that is not called a conducive environment to collegial editing, it's more like slave-driving and walking the plank, terrible manipulation and gaming of the system, the very opposite of seeking WP:CONSENSUS and acting WP:CIVIL. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 10:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Serious community input has been requested, see Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Trying to avoid WP:WAR over spate of AfDs and PRODs. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 06:18, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
So far, as of 21 July 2014, the following AfDs have resulted in Keeps or "No consensus":
This shows that with AGF discussions the articles can and are being improved and that it is always best to seek WP:CONSENSUS and input from editors who are willing and able to work on the improvements. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 07:22, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
An editor is changing all instances of Yahweh in an artcile to YHWH on that basis. Dougweller ( talk) 05:44, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Should we be using the hyphenated or the unhyphenated form of the word? Bus stop ( talk) 16:02, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
My article on Regiment of Riflemen (United States) was accepted. One of the officer's names that I have come across more than once is Abraham A. Massias. He does not have a page but is referenced without a link. Massias was present in the "secret war" in Spanish East Florida (1812-1813) and at the Battle of Fort Peter (one of the battles fought between the U.S. and Britain after we had supposedly made peace in 1814). He was once appointed as a major, but the appointment was negated by the Senate, which leads to some interesting thoughts. There is record, I think, of his will, but I don't think I have access to the database. I don't know if there's enough information available to build a really good page about Massias, but I'd be glad to help with the military aspects.-- Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 20:35, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Could someone here please look at recent edits to Tekhelet? I only have it on my watchlist because, as a biologist, I like to see binomials such as Indigofera tinctoria formatted correctly. But I believe that the edits by AdamNeira would benefit from expert attention. Maproom ( talk) 07:59, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
There has been discussion, and action, to reduce the number of religious figures in the collage from 2 to 1, which is a change from the consensus in 2009. Your collective input as to whether or not consensus has changed would be appreciated at Talk:Ashkenazi Jews#Pictures of religious figures. Thank you. -- Avi ( talk) 03:46, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Do we need Shofar blowing? It was created by Davidbena after a long addition of his was removed from Rosh Hashanah. In the resulting discussion on Talk:Rosh_Hashanah#Question a shorter text was suggested to add to Rosh_Hashanah#Shofar_blowing, and consensus forming is still ongoing. Now the question is, do we need that article? Debresser ( talk) 18:26, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Do we all agree to the theme in all hasidic groups to have them titled as "dynasties"? See List of Hasidic dynasties. They are typically described simply as "groups". -- brew crewer (yada, yada) 15:07, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Isn't "dynasty" a hackneyed term? Isn't simply "Hasidic group" the more contemporaneously common term? -- brew crewer (yada, yada) 23:50, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Would it be more useful to have a category about the Dybbuk (filed through Ghosts, etc.), about adaptations of The Dybbuk (through the Works adapted... and In fiction category trees), or both? Basically, do we reckon there's enough on non-Ansky dybbuks to do the former, and for the latter, would being unable to categorize the original play be an issue? – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 19:51, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Could someone please take a look at this change, which altered the Hebrew text to be completely different from the transliteration? Thanks! — Sebastian 17:02, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Could be wrong but these appear to be recreated from redirects. See here and here. I think this has happened before and had to be merged/AFDed and an editor blocked, but cannot recall where. Someone else may recall better. In ictu oculi ( talk) 12:27, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/After Saturday Comes Sunday (2nd nomination). Dougweller ( talk) 13:44, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
There is currently a dispute about the Judaism section of this article. See Talk:Golden_Rule#Judaism. Input would be welcomed. Paul B ( talk) 09:22, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
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Hi. Can I get some help with edit warring over the number of Jews in Iran? I noticed that on several articles, this info was being suppressed. The latest is this re-revert - second (marked "minor") revert by the same user of the same edit in about 24 hrs. Seems to be a concerted attempt to keep the number at 30,000 in Iran - this is what Jews now says without citation, cuz of this edit and the first diff (in this comment) above removed a cited figure of around 9,000. (Based on an actual, official government census). I don't think I'm allowed to do another rollback, unless the re-revert is "vandalism"; can an admin do something? another suppression of this info. another- the last is by an IP that has done 3 reverts in short succession, and is doing nothing but this edit warring. Block for disruption? Yes, I could post elsewhere; choosing to try posting here.--{{U| Elvey}} ( t• c) 19:13, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
I'm looking for opinions on how (or if) to rearrange Category:Hebrew-language songs and its subcats particularly Category:Jewish liturgical poems. (The main reason for if, is I'm not sure I can be NPOV on this...)
It seems to me that the songs that are sung in Synagogue as part of prayers should be grouped together. Category:Hebrew-language songs contains both Yigdal and Ding Dong (Dana International song) (sung for Eurovision). OTOH, Category:Jewish liturgical poems contains Yigdal and Lekhah Dodi. I know that some of this is based around exactly *what* are Piyyutim, but does anyone have any suggestions? (particularly how to group things so that Yigdal and Ding Dong (Dana International song) don't necessarily end up together). Naraht ( talk) 11:52, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Irene Caesar is a conceptual artist of some note. (I don't believe she's notable enough to merit her own page and I've started an AFD here.) On her blog, she makes virulently anti-Semitic statements, including detailed conspiracy theories involving Jews trying to destroy her native country, Russia. I've tried to include some of these statements on her page, but some editors feel this info should be deleted because there are no known secondary sources confirming her views. I would appreciate it if you would read her page and comment on the talk page. Thank you, Scaleshombre ( talk) 19:29, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Have suggested change for Jewish Federations of North America article, but don't have firsthand knowledge on the subject.
I have firsthand knowledge on this, as I reported on the earliest merger discussions for the JTA wire service. Basically, the three organizations merged, and the resulting organization was the United Jewish Communities. Later, that organization changed its name to the Jewish Federations of North America. A google of site:jta.org should bring up lots of news reporting. Yudel ( talk) 17:16, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
The following article could benefit from some improvement (including wikification, RS support, and expansion) from any interested experts out there ... Shabbos App. Epeefleche ( talk) 08:12, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Please see the discussion at Talk:Hebrew Bible#Proposed merge with Tanakh. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 20:03, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Would somebody please explain to Theredheifer ( talk · contribs) that when reverted he should not edit war but discuss. We are in argument on many points recently on a few articles, but he does not seem to understand that simple rule, based first and foremost on WP:BRD. I do not want to go into the many content disputes themselves, which we are currently working on solving, but if any editors would want to give their opinions, I would also appreciate that. IMHO, and excuse me if I sound a little arrogant, Theredheifer is a promising contributor to Wikipedia, but a little too insistent on some inferior phrases and sources. Debresser ( talk) 19:17, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
I was appalled by the state of the lede and first section of the Sukkot article. I have rewritten them, throwing away a lot of garbage, IMHO. It may be argued that some of the things I removed should have a place in the continuation of the article, but given that the sukkot article is rather short, I doubt it. Perhaps some of my fellow editors with knowledge of Jewish festivals would care to have a look? Debresser ( talk) 19:34, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
The above squabble is not called for because the simple way that it has always been resolved in WP articles is by first citing the classical religious sources and point of view, and then later, usually towards the end of such an article, to mention latter-day academic theories (e.g.: ==Academic or Secular or Christian theories== [pick one or some]) without them changing the traditional observance of the Jewish holidays according to the teachings of Judaism and its sources and then later making room for mention of how secular/atheist/Christian/academics/what have you look at such things. WP has room for all POVs as long as they abide by WP:NPOV. IZAK ( talk) 20:36, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Is this project a suitable place to notify others of possible Anti-Semitic editing? If not, advice would be appreciated does the appropriate place. Two kinds of pork Makin' Bacon 01:46, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Requesting to add article: Book of Elchasai to this Wikiproject, and also have an article rating. — JudeccaXIII ( talk) 19:10, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Hello. Is there an article about Temple Beth Am in Los Angeles, California? If so, I cannot find it, and we should create a redirect. Otherwise, would anyone be interested in starting a page about it? It is very historic. Shalom! Zigzig20s ( talk) 09:38, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
There is a rather long discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics#Is Iceman Jewish? about how to characterize the character in question. Anyone input from someone who might be knowledgeable about how we in wikipedia the term in question in context would be more than welcome. John Carter ( talk) 20:10, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Please see the discussion here. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 07:51, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
I am trying to add the following passage to the Kashrut article but I am being reverted. Where can I put it. Here is what I want to put: In the Samaritan Torah, in Exodus 23:19 prohibition is followed by an addition: כי עשה זאת כזבח שכח ועברה היא לאלהי יעקב— “for whoever is doing this, it is like a sacrifice of forgetting and indignation to the God of Jacob”. [1] 76.91.183.145 ( talk) 00:49, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
Hanukkah has two yellow-level maintenance tags on it, which means it will be ineligible for inclusion on WP:Selected anniversaries/December 16. Please rectify this as soon as possible. Thanks. — howcheng { chat} 06:56, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
See Talk:Š-L-M#Requested_move_18_December_2014. GregKaye ✍♪ 07:15, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello, are there thoughts on the article Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ithiel? I wasn't sure if this was the right place to ask about it. -- TKK! bark with me! 04:16, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
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I looked at the article on Elazar Avaran and noticed an error in how he was said to have died according to the "scroll of Antiochus" (a/k/a Megillat Antiochus). A wikipedia rollbacker reverted the changes. I made certain to indicate all of my sources are primary sources and I've been discussing this at length on the Talk page. How can I better convince this editor to stop reverting my edits short of teaching them to read Aramaic? Aharonium ( talk) 07:28, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
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My English is not good so I'm sorry in advance. Hi, there is a lot of disorganization in the Template:Jews and Judaism - also mixsing between jews, Judaism and Israel. Not Informative enough and too long.
Also, while surfing i have noticed some incorrect and even some Antisemitism infected values. like the Jews as the chosen people, when i have tried to fix it, Every time they canceled my editing (Also there is a need to add to that value that this idea of the Jews as the chosen people was a top Refueling source for anti-Semitism - Psychological projection, Oedipus complex, that have been used by everyone including Hitler. Read; Avi Beker, The Chosen: The History of An Idea, and the Anatomy of an Obsession, 2008).
I have started with Template:Jews and Judaism - that needs to be ERASED. Which mixed between Jews, Judaism and Israel, was to long and not informative enough.
Instead of Template:Jews and Judaism i have built the 2 Templates: Template:Jews in the world and Template:Judaism; History and Philosophy. Maybe there names also sould be changed(?)
I have noticed that there's also a Template:Antisemitism topics. So I'm going to delete the matter from - Template: Jews in the world and to move it to Template:Antisemitism topics.
It is necessary to decide what would be the topics of the Templates and to organize it all... After that the Templates should be add to all of the relevant values. DaoXan ( talk) 19:06, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I am engaged in a chat on a talk page here with an editor who is of the view that Jewish RSs (e.g., The Forward) and presumably Israeli RSs (the conversation includes Haaretz) should not be relied on as refs for inclusion in text of an article of (certain?) Jewish subjects (such as whether a person is Jewish). The conversation may interest some of you. Epeefleche ( talk) 05:14, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
This article mentions that one of the seven is a prohibition on homosexuality. What's the best Jewish source materials for Wikipedia for definitive lists, allowing for the usual dissent? Encyclopedia Talmudit and Jewish Encyclopedia both cite adultery, with no mention of homosexuality, and they're strong secondary sources. -- Dweller ( talk) 17:11, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Please comment in Talk: Reform movement in Judaism. AddMore ( talk) 18:31, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
A pretty interesting figure who made it to Finance Minister in, of all places, Egypt, and who should have an article. Good sources here, here and here. - 2601:6:8400:478:9E4:FC8:E03A:57BA ( talk) 16:46, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
The usage of the pagename Table of Nations is up for discussion, see talk:Sons of Noah -- 70.51.200.101 ( talk) 12:23, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
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The article Adam Wiercinski is currently in AfD at /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Adam_Wiercinski Tkuvho ( talk) 12:33, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
There is a move request in progress regarding this article. Please could members of this project comment on this over at Talk:Cholov Yisroel#Requested move 31 December 2013. Many thanks — Amakuru ( talk) 15:46, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
This Judaism-related article is currently nominated for possible deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to share your opinion. - Shalom11111 ( talk) 22:38, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone know if this section removal makes sense? The removed text has three sources but non of them are online so I can't easily check them. Yaris678 ( talk) 20:12, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm having a problem on the article Caleb with a new editor who is edit warring what looks to me like an original Hebrew derivation for the name "Caleb". The only interpretation I'm certain of is already referenced to the JE, but if anyone can find anything more substantial in RSS it would help... Til Eulenspiegel / talk/ 17:51, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
User:IZAK has recently added Category:Kabbalistic words and phrases to articles about Kabbalistic books? We discussed this a little bit on his talkpage, because I disagree with that, and decided to ask for broader input here. Debresser ( talk) 06:33, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
To cut the chase. I disagree that titles of books, e.g. Sefer HaBahir, become kabbalistic terms in themselves. Debresser ( talk) 06:52, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Wondering if anyone had particular views on whether the concept of " blood libel" should get at least a passing mention in blood or not. Discussion on Talk:Blood about this. JFW | T@lk 17:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
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Category:Children of Holocaust survivors has been proposed for deletion. Anyone interested in commenting can do so here __ E L A Q U E A T E 05:49, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
The article for Will Eisner's graphic novel A Contract with God has recently become a Good Article. I'm planning on nominating it as a Featured Article Candidate and would appreciate any feedback to help it get there. The Peer Review is here, so please stop by! Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 08:18, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Editors are invited to visit Talk:SodaStream where a lively discussion is going on. Tkuvho ( talk) 18:24, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
same old - more watchlisters needed. In ictu oculi ( talk) 11:03, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
I was wondering if someone could write an article on the History of the Jews in Baltimore? Along the lines of this article or this article. I would make it myself, but I don't think I'm the best person for the job. Thanks. Solar-Wind ( talk) 16:02, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Greetings! The Sefer haYashar disambiguation page has had over a dozen links pointing to it for several months. Any help in fixing those links would be appreciated. Cheers! bd2412 T 04:34, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Many articles reference the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia which is sadly rather out of date. The definitive resource should be Encyclopedia Judaica, 2007 which is now available online free.
http://www.bjeindy.org/resources/library/encyclopediajudaica/
Using the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia should be discouraged. Not only is it out of date but using it also causes articles to sound like they were written a hundred years ago. I added Encyclopedia Judaica, 2007 to resources I would suggest removing the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia
Jonney2000 ( talk) 05:25, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
often reflecting its 19th century Wissenschaft des Judentums bias. Can you please elaborate? הסרפד ( call me Hasirpad) 19:59, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks to the user who pointed out that Encyclopedia Judaica (EJ) is COPYRIGHTED 2007 by Keter Publishing House, while the century+ old Jewish Encyclopedia (JE) is 100% in the public domain and can be used at will! How silly that this should be overlooked but of course then picked up on WP of all places which itself spends so much time with clarifying that its materials can be used. And one has to LAUGH as one reads all the comments attacking the use of encyclopedias OF ALL THINGS as if WP has some sort of self-annointed, self-righteous, self-important " papal infallibility" and is "something else" -- clearly a case of "loss of perspective" + "believing your own propaganda" + "the pot calling the kettle black" + ""people who live in glass houses should not throw stones" etc! What will WP people think of and say next?! To Sirpad, what JFW is saying is that the JE has an obvious slant, it has its manner of violating WP:POV, and its something that can and should be fixed or improved, and that is the tough job of WP editors. IZAK ( talk) 05:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
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Please see: (1) Category:Holy Land during Byzantine rule, CfD; (2) Category:Centuries in Israel, CfD; (3) Category:Medieval Israel, CfD. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 10:02, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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Requested move of Kosher tax (antisemitic canard), discussion. IZAK ( talk) 08:09, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
moved from Talk:Judaism. Thanks Debresser, I'm an idiot
This article is a messy amalgam of three different concepts. I've proposed splitting it and making the page a disambiguation at Talk:Shaddai. Please contribute to the discussion. -- Dweller ( talk) 10:39, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
For information that is widely available, such as that there are two berachos before Kriyas Shema, which types of sources are best to use?
Which types are the most preferable? (feel free to mention any I forgot to list) -- Ypnypn ( talk) 17:53, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
If possible, regardless of the language issues, it's always better to cite a secondary source that describes something about a primary source, rather than the primary source itself. It's not always possible, but surely this must be a case where it is...? I'd go for the third or fourth options, otherwise the siddur itself, like StevenJ81 suggests. The Mishnah Berurah (and even more so the Mishnah!) isn't a great choice because in many cases some or all strands of orthodoxy don't follow its rulings. -- Dweller ( talk) 16:50, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Something weird going on in footnotes 4 and 5. Seems like someone's trying to prove that Hillel said things before the Koran did, but it's poorly explained, in the wrong place, fairly baffling and, it would seem, unnecessary. -- Dweller ( talk) 13:56, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Is this organisation actually notable enough for an article of its own? Dougweller ( talk) 15:29, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
An IP, asserting the Jews are not an ethnicity (despite me pointing him here), is making deletions based on this assertion, as here.-- Epeefleche ( talk) 02:55, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
I saw the ["Members"] list at Portal:Judaism/Information and I was going to ask for some advice -- about how to "decide" whether to add my name to that list.
However, when I went to the "Talk:" page there ( Portal_talk:Judaism/Information), it was empty, and it seemed to be sorta recommending this page instead.
Any advice? Thank you. -- Mike Schwartz ( talk) 00:59, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
I've put the article for Will Eisner's 1978 graphic novel A Contract with God up as a Featured Article Candidate. Everyone is encouraged to participate in the review at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/A Contract with God/archive1. Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 12:44, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Dear editors: Here's an old Afc submission that will soon be deleted as a stale draft unless someone decides that it's a notable topic and fixes it up to the point that it can be added to the encyclopedia. Any takers? — Anne Delong ( talk) 17:31, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
I was wondering if Wikiproject Judiasm could review the article on Quds Day for bias. The article describes Qud's day as a protest to "express solidarity with the Palestinian people and oppose Zionism", while giving no criticism over the holiday's links to terrorist organizations and militant antisemitism. Monochrome Monitor ( talk) 01:57, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
CorinneSD has requested help via the {{ help}} template at User talk:CorinneSD#Merkabah mysticism regarding a Hebrew translation, more specifically the spelling, at Merkabah mysticism. Would someone more knowledgeable of the subject matter here be able to help them out? Thank you, Mkdw talk 19:33, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Handwashing in Jewish Law. FoCuSandLeArN ( talk) 21:25, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Please see:
Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 05:18, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jewish poetry from Al-Andalus. FoCuSandLeArN ( talk) 19:58, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Here is a discussion w/regard to changing the cats for Jewish people killed in the Holocaust.-- Epeefleche ( talk) 21:16, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
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I'm not challenging the list but it is unsourced, lists 1 to 58 and then jumps to 112 which goes up to the current Samaritan High Priest - why the gap? I note that none but the most recent names have links, which surprises me. Dougweller ( talk) 12:02, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Dear editors: Here's an old Afc submission that will soon be deleted as a stale draft unless someone takes an interest in it. Is this a notable topic, and should the page be saved and improved? — Anne Delong ( talk) 02:34, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
I am trying to perfect the references in the article on Aaron; however I am not knowledgeable about the scriptures and other holy writings of the Jewish faith. Could someone who knows these and has some time either work with me or finish what I have started. I am trying to either link directly to the necessary passage like the {{Bibleref}} template does or the {{cite Quran}}, or reference a book that has the passages in it, preferably with the page numbers, so people like me can verify references and such. I do apologize for my ignorance on the subject. speednat ( talk) 19:56, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello, Judaism experts. The above old AfC submission will soon be deleted as a stale draft. Right now "Holy Incense" redirects to Incense offering. There appears to be some information in the old draft that is not in the mainspace article; perhaps someone at this project will be able to tell if it's useful and properly sourced. — Anne Delong ( talk) 19:45, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Please excuse me presenting a problem from the German Wikipedia here, but it seems, it requires a broader audience.
In the introductional sentences of biographical articles of the German Wikipedia, since 2002 the genealogical symbols star "*" for "born on" and cross "†" for "died on" are used, according to de:Wikipedia:Formatvorlage/Biografie. The unique use of these symbols has been confirmed in several user polls since 2005, the last accepted poll was de:Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Form der Lebensdaten in der Einleitung von Personenartikeln in April 2014, with a vote of 40.9% : 59.1% against a new form without star and cross.
The cross as a genealogical symbol for "died on" has been used by German Protestants since about 1600, like in Family trees and official Parish registers. By the second half of the 18th century, the cross symbol was taken over by scientific genealogists like Johann Christoph Gatterer. The combination of star and cross is first known from a Handlexikon für evangelische Theologen, Gotha 1891.
Star and cross symbols were used since 1896 in the Deutsches Geschlechterbuch, an extensive genealogical encyclopedia of bourgeois or patrician families from several German regions and cities, issued by the Berlin sited genealogical association Herold. The editions of Deutsches Geschlechterbuch appeared over years with antisemitic prefaces by the editor de:Bernhard Koerner.
However, Stephan Kekulé von Stradonitz, member of the association Herold, a political conservative and opponent of antisemitism, in 1909 proposed a genealogical sign language for general use, including star and cross symbols, which he hoped would be used internationally. Kekulé wrote an entry on genealogical symbols for Meyers Konversations-Lexikon in 1910, and in the 1920, both Meyers Konversations-Lexikon and the rivaling Brockhaus Enzyklopädie started to use cross and star for biographic articles.
After 1945, several general and encyclopaedias in German have been using the genealogic symbols for biographies. However, in academic fields like Jewish studies, Oriental studies, Holocaust studies etc. the symbols are not used. Genealogical symbols did not spread internationally. The fourth international congress for Genealogy and Heraldry at Bruxelles in 1958 proposed abreviations with small letters like "b" for born and "d" for "died" which however have not been generally applied either since.
Several Jews have spoken out against using the cross symbol in biographies of Jewish persons, e.g. in 1978 in Udim, journal of the Rabbi conference in the Federal Republic of Germany. Scholars of Islam like de:Patrick Franke spoke out against the use of the cross too. In particular, the use of the cross for articles on Jewish persons in Wikipedia has been critisized e.g. in 2012 by Björn Beck, member of the Jewish community of Wiesbaden. And in a [http://www.jewiki.net/wiki/Benutzer:Michael_K%C3%BChntopf/WP-Kreuzthematik#Antworten survey] from February 2014, 25 participants have critisized the use of the cross for articles on Jews in Wikipedia, among them several Rabbis, de:Stephan J. Kramer, former general secretary of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, and other relevant persons.
de:Wikipedia:Formatvorlage/Biografie would allow exceptions, when it can't be applied in "usefull" manner. However, it is still close to impossible to write a biographic article in the German Wikipedia without star and cross symbols. A majority of administrators either block the editor who tries to change an article, or temporarilly block the article, usually in a version with star and cross. These administrator decisions are justified by referring the results of the user polls.
At the moment, the problem is part of an ongoing abitration commitee request de:Wikipedia:Schiedsgericht/Anfragen/Verbindlichkeit der Formatvorlage Biografie.
The wmf:Non discrimination policy, approved by the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustee in January 2006, actually "prohibits discrimination against current or prospective users and employees". One question under discussion is, whether this non discrimination policy also applies to the content of Wikipedia articles, and could be used to overrule the use poll results, in the case of articles, where a format with star and cross could be considered as discriminating, Rosenkohl ( talk) 16:48, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
The point of any non discrimination measure in a democracy would be to protect the interests of a quantitative minority against the vote of a quantitative majority. So it seems at least the following should hold:
1. wmf:Non discrimination policy applies to content of Wikipedia articles about real persons, and overrules user polls of local projects.
2. External objections, whether stated in the public or addressed at Wikipedia, against the use of genealogical symbols in certain articles, have to be taken into account,
3. Alternative formats without genealogical symbols should be used for an article, if there are valid objections against possible discriminations.
Rosenkohl ( talk) 18:04, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
An IP editor recently made major changes to Mashhadi Jews. [5] The changes are unsourced and written in an unencyclopedic tone, and should probably be reverted, but the older version isn't sourced either. The article has been in this condition since it was first split off as a fork from Allahdad incident on 28 April 2012. [6] Sources exist, such as [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] The article would benefit from some serious attention from experienced editors. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 22:19, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
The Mimouna article uses the terms Moroccan, Maghrebi, and North African interchangeably. Which one is it? These are three distinct regions. The Maghreb is within North Africa and Morocco is within the Maghreb. -- PiMaster3 talk 10:54, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bible#Page move request for Sirach. Dougweller ( talk) 11:48, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello, everyone. Here's another of those old abandoned AfC submissions. It will be deleted as a stale draft unless someone takes an interest in it and edits it. Is this a notable subject that should be kept and improved? — Anne Delong ( talk) 17:47, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Haredi Judaism#Lack of WP:NPOV in this article. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 06:50, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Leaving aside for a moment the bad name, is this worth developing as a real article on a "social group", separate from the Haredi Judaism article?-- Pharos ( talk) 12:04, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
Please see note at #Lack of WP:NPOV in Haredi Judaism article below. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 06:51, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
What do the expert editors think of the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History of the Jews in Nepal? What should be included or excluded as part of Jewish history? Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 08:05, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
There is now an RfC about the name for History of the Jews in Nepal (after there was a vote to Keep the title and the name), see Talk:History of the Jews in Nepal#RfC: Should we change article name to 'Judaism in Nepal'?. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 12:12, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
There is now an official WP:Deletion review, see Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2014 June 30#History of the Jews in Nepal. Thanks, IZAK ( talk) 13:28, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello. Is there really no article about the three murdered Israeli teenagers, or is it that I haven't found it yet? If there isn't one, I think it should definitely be created. I'm not quite certain how to name/start it, but I'd be happy to add more info once it is here. I've added a bit about it on Beth Jacob Congregation (Beverly Hills, California). It should also definitely make it to the "in the news" section on the frontpage. Please let me know if you can help. Zigzig20s ( talk) 12:05, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Considering the Nepal case above and general issues with this type of title, do we want to consider a new standard for naming this kind of culture-by-country article?
Some options that occur to me, that might be broader, or just less awkward:
NOTE: @ Yoninah:, @ Debresser:, @ Pharos:, @ Malik Shabazz:: Please see Template {{ Jews and Judaism category tree}} to understand the hierarchy of the naming system for CATEGORIES in place on WP for basically a decade! Do not try to "fix" ten years of hard work that is built on good foundations. You need to understand the nature of the parent category, and the sub-categories and the sub-sub-categories that proceed from that!!! The category names do not match with actual articles all the time for many reasons, but the system has worked perfectly and there is no need to change it now for any reason. Any attempt to change the names will cause mass confusion and havoc and few will be able to untangle or even understand the ensuing mess that would follow or to fix all the loose ends it will unleash like opening a huge can of worms! There are reasons why "Jews and Judaism" cannot be the best category for "Jews history" simply because Jewish history includes events, personalities, including gentiles and secular events and factors that go beyond just Jews and Judaism, but they do fit perfectly in the Jewish history of [[History of the Jews in ____" (continent/region/country/city). See my fuller additional explanation below. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 22:10, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
For the sake of understanding the differences between the topics of Jews, Judaism, and Jewish history (not to mention Israel) and to avoid confusing them or "combining" them, and in order to keep the articles and categories relating to them separate and clear, it is important to know and understand the following navigational template {{ Jews and Judaism category tree}} produced in full below. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 22:18, 11 July 2014 (UTC):
Parent:
Category:Jews and Judaism (by: country, place, region, topic) [Main container category | |||||||||||||||||||||
Child:
Category:Jews (by: country, place; also: biographies, lists, categories of individuals) [Main container subcategory | Child:
Category:Judaism (by: country, place; also: denominations, religious topics, religious texts, synagogues, yeshivas, schools, rabbis) [Main container subcategory | Child:
Category:Jewish history (by: country, region, era; also: all secular topics) [Main container subcategory | |||||||||||||||||||
I could use help adding this Jewish-American World Record parachutist who was known as the "Lindbergh of Russia" for which he spent 18 years in Gulag, to appropriate Jewish Categories, Projects and back-links. Thanks. -- Green C 02:55, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello there! Would anyone be interested in adding referenced to this nomination? Seems like a valuable article to keep. King's Highway (ancient). Regards, CesareAngelotti ( talk) 14:30, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Dear editors: This article was created last year, but never submitted for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Is this a notable writer, and should the article be kept and improved instead of being deleted as a stale draft? — Anne Delong ( talk) 02:12, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello, A discussion is taking place for era-style consensus for article Book of Isaiah so see the article's talk page. Era-style is inconsistent, and ignore the recent era changes done in the article because there was no consensus approved yet. -- JudeccaXIII ( talk) 03:00, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello, A discussion is taking place for era-style consensus for article Ezra–Nehemiah so see the article's talk page. The era-style is inconsistent. -- JudeccaXIII ( talk) 23:41, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
User Namiba ( talk · contribs) aka "TM", seems to have started an arbitrary process of eliminating articles about Orthodox Judaism synagogues from Category:Orthodox synagogues in the United States, he was requested to stop this process of mass nominations for deletions without further discussions and requests for improvement of the articles. So far he has nominated for deletion these articles: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beth HaMedrosh Hagodol-Beth Joseph & Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Congregation Tiferes Yisroel (2nd nomination) & Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anshei Sfard (Louisville, Kentucky) & Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Congregation Arugas Habosem that looks like its heading for mass deletions in this area. The nominator was requested to consider WP:DONOTDEMOLISH and WP:CHANCE and to please start a discussion or a WP:RFC if he feels such articles are not up to snuff at a venue of his choosing, or at WP:TALKJUDAISM that would make the most sense. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 03:57, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
User
Namiba (
talk ·
contribs) (aka "TM") has nominated for deletion a number of articles from
Category:Orthodox synagogues in the United States. It would be best to ask for help from the articles' creators and other editors to improve the articles first or seek input from
WP:EXPERT editors here at
WP:TALKJUDAISM before resorting to such drastic measures as mass deletions of years worth of work on WP.
IZAK (
talk) 04:14, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
IZAK’s exhortations notwithstanding, no one filing PRODs or AfDs are required to obtain any WikiProject’s permission before so doing, they’re not asked to jump through hoops not required of them by WP:Deletion policy, they’re not required to wait for a response from the article creators, they're not required to be a frequent contributor to the pertinent WikiProject, there doesn’t need to be a critical mass of active editors from an associated WikiProject, and the only one who seems to be seeking a “war” is IZAK himself ... not for the first time.
That being said, it’s peculiar that IZAK is using up so much time and energy sounding the trumpets – never mind his outrageous suggestion that we shouldn’t be deleting articles about synagogues because of Israel’s political situation – instead of doing a very simple thing that would guarantee the retention of these articles: source them. Sorry, but sourcing articles is not some vast chore: five minutes is usually all it takes to come up with a couple reliable sources which satisfy the GNG in all but the most obstinate of articles. What’s stopping him from doing so? Why is he using all this time and effort to raise the battle flags instead of bothering? Ravenswing 07:00, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
That being said, no, my response is NOT absurd: you quite frequently resort to claiming bias, anti-Semitism or other sinister motive to those seeking to delete Judaism-related articles ... unless you're seeking to delete them yourself. Ravenswing 08:43, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
@ Ravenswing: see my responses below. I reject all your allegations, so far you have not made one constructive suggestion, just bossing around and "issuing commands" and not so veiled threats leaving people no options achieves nothing. No need to duplicate every last word. Thanks, IZAK ( talk) 11:05, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
@ Namiba:(aka "TM"); @ Soman:; @ Stevietheman:; @ Pharos:; @ Yoninah:: quite frankly this is not the best time to start a move to delete any synagogue articles given that the current Israel-Gaza conflict is now so hot that it is spilling over into attacks on synagogues in France, see Protesters scuffle with police at Paris synagogues (AP, July 13, 2014), and the problem is growing, so it behooves any editor undertaking such deletions to proceed with great care in order to avoid any semblance of impropriety until the temperature surrounding the role and place of synagogues as current flashpoints of conflict stops. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 22:33, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
@ Ravenswing: it is really fascinating to hear your lectures about how to use WP, and feel free to dredge up the " Original sin" whilst your at it, if that is what makes you happy, but this is what's going on here in spite of your attempts to derail this discussion: 1 The only thing I DO look at is Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Judaism and on that NONE of the PRODS were there AFAIK. 2 You also know full-well that articles have been coming in from the time of WP's inception when policies were not well-formulated and now even editors who are not experts in WP policy also contribute articles. 3 Many editors are new and we must just WP:AGF and follow WP:DONOTBITE even long after they have moved on their early work remains, and it is the job of more experienced editors to be more careful and welcoming and not act destructively, otherwise this encyclopedia will never be built up. 4 How anyone uses their time on WP is their own private business! In any case a lot of my edits are corrections of minor spelling and typos that I try to fix. I devote various chunks of time to various aspects, and it is not anyone's business to tell others how to allocate their VOLUNTEER and FREE OF CHARGE time on WP, to do so would be a violation of WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA and the mark of an ingrate. 5 In this instance I see an egregious misuse of AfDs and PRODs that are counter-productive and harmful to developing the subject of synagogues on WP. That someone is WP:IJUSTDONTLIKEIT is their problem and no one else's. 6 Thus, the problem here is that the PRODs came up so quickly within a day or two 8 articles put up as PRODs in addition to the 7 AfDs to contend with (we do not have supermen and superwomen to edit at such a speedy rate -- your "calculations" to contrary) and the notifications went to long-dormant and inactive users that it was impossible to know about them, let alone try to improve them. 7 On top of that there are few willing and able good Judaic editors on standby in this area who can do the job. 8 That is why my complaint is against the improper brutal and blunt process being deployed here by User Namiba ( talk · contribs) by not creating the right venue to start a discussion about improving the articles. It's like having a gun pointed at one's head and then have no choices, that is not called a conducive environment to collegial editing, it's more like slave-driving and walking the plank, terrible manipulation and gaming of the system, the very opposite of seeking WP:CONSENSUS and acting WP:CIVIL. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 10:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Serious community input has been requested, see Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Trying to avoid WP:WAR over spate of AfDs and PRODs. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 06:18, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
So far, as of 21 July 2014, the following AfDs have resulted in Keeps or "No consensus":
This shows that with AGF discussions the articles can and are being improved and that it is always best to seek WP:CONSENSUS and input from editors who are willing and able to work on the improvements. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 07:22, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
An editor is changing all instances of Yahweh in an artcile to YHWH on that basis. Dougweller ( talk) 05:44, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Should we be using the hyphenated or the unhyphenated form of the word? Bus stop ( talk) 16:02, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
My article on Regiment of Riflemen (United States) was accepted. One of the officer's names that I have come across more than once is Abraham A. Massias. He does not have a page but is referenced without a link. Massias was present in the "secret war" in Spanish East Florida (1812-1813) and at the Battle of Fort Peter (one of the battles fought between the U.S. and Britain after we had supposedly made peace in 1814). He was once appointed as a major, but the appointment was negated by the Senate, which leads to some interesting thoughts. There is record, I think, of his will, but I don't think I have access to the database. I don't know if there's enough information available to build a really good page about Massias, but I'd be glad to help with the military aspects.-- Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 20:35, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Could someone here please look at recent edits to Tekhelet? I only have it on my watchlist because, as a biologist, I like to see binomials such as Indigofera tinctoria formatted correctly. But I believe that the edits by AdamNeira would benefit from expert attention. Maproom ( talk) 07:59, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
There has been discussion, and action, to reduce the number of religious figures in the collage from 2 to 1, which is a change from the consensus in 2009. Your collective input as to whether or not consensus has changed would be appreciated at Talk:Ashkenazi Jews#Pictures of religious figures. Thank you. -- Avi ( talk) 03:46, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Do we need Shofar blowing? It was created by Davidbena after a long addition of his was removed from Rosh Hashanah. In the resulting discussion on Talk:Rosh_Hashanah#Question a shorter text was suggested to add to Rosh_Hashanah#Shofar_blowing, and consensus forming is still ongoing. Now the question is, do we need that article? Debresser ( talk) 18:26, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Do we all agree to the theme in all hasidic groups to have them titled as "dynasties"? See List of Hasidic dynasties. They are typically described simply as "groups". -- brew crewer (yada, yada) 15:07, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Isn't "dynasty" a hackneyed term? Isn't simply "Hasidic group" the more contemporaneously common term? -- brew crewer (yada, yada) 23:50, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Would it be more useful to have a category about the Dybbuk (filed through Ghosts, etc.), about adaptations of The Dybbuk (through the Works adapted... and In fiction category trees), or both? Basically, do we reckon there's enough on non-Ansky dybbuks to do the former, and for the latter, would being unable to categorize the original play be an issue? – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 19:51, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Could someone please take a look at this change, which altered the Hebrew text to be completely different from the transliteration? Thanks! — Sebastian 17:02, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Could be wrong but these appear to be recreated from redirects. See here and here. I think this has happened before and had to be merged/AFDed and an editor blocked, but cannot recall where. Someone else may recall better. In ictu oculi ( talk) 12:27, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/After Saturday Comes Sunday (2nd nomination). Dougweller ( talk) 13:44, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
There is currently a dispute about the Judaism section of this article. See Talk:Golden_Rule#Judaism. Input would be welcomed. Paul B ( talk) 09:22, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
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Hi. Can I get some help with edit warring over the number of Jews in Iran? I noticed that on several articles, this info was being suppressed. The latest is this re-revert - second (marked "minor") revert by the same user of the same edit in about 24 hrs. Seems to be a concerted attempt to keep the number at 30,000 in Iran - this is what Jews now says without citation, cuz of this edit and the first diff (in this comment) above removed a cited figure of around 9,000. (Based on an actual, official government census). I don't think I'm allowed to do another rollback, unless the re-revert is "vandalism"; can an admin do something? another suppression of this info. another- the last is by an IP that has done 3 reverts in short succession, and is doing nothing but this edit warring. Block for disruption? Yes, I could post elsewhere; choosing to try posting here.--{{U| Elvey}} ( t• c) 19:13, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
I'm looking for opinions on how (or if) to rearrange Category:Hebrew-language songs and its subcats particularly Category:Jewish liturgical poems. (The main reason for if, is I'm not sure I can be NPOV on this...)
It seems to me that the songs that are sung in Synagogue as part of prayers should be grouped together. Category:Hebrew-language songs contains both Yigdal and Ding Dong (Dana International song) (sung for Eurovision). OTOH, Category:Jewish liturgical poems contains Yigdal and Lekhah Dodi. I know that some of this is based around exactly *what* are Piyyutim, but does anyone have any suggestions? (particularly how to group things so that Yigdal and Ding Dong (Dana International song) don't necessarily end up together). Naraht ( talk) 11:52, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Irene Caesar is a conceptual artist of some note. (I don't believe she's notable enough to merit her own page and I've started an AFD here.) On her blog, she makes virulently anti-Semitic statements, including detailed conspiracy theories involving Jews trying to destroy her native country, Russia. I've tried to include some of these statements on her page, but some editors feel this info should be deleted because there are no known secondary sources confirming her views. I would appreciate it if you would read her page and comment on the talk page. Thank you, Scaleshombre ( talk) 19:29, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Have suggested change for Jewish Federations of North America article, but don't have firsthand knowledge on the subject.
I have firsthand knowledge on this, as I reported on the earliest merger discussions for the JTA wire service. Basically, the three organizations merged, and the resulting organization was the United Jewish Communities. Later, that organization changed its name to the Jewish Federations of North America. A google of site:jta.org should bring up lots of news reporting. Yudel ( talk) 17:16, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
The following article could benefit from some improvement (including wikification, RS support, and expansion) from any interested experts out there ... Shabbos App. Epeefleche ( talk) 08:12, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Please see the discussion at Talk:Hebrew Bible#Proposed merge with Tanakh. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 20:03, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Would somebody please explain to Theredheifer ( talk · contribs) that when reverted he should not edit war but discuss. We are in argument on many points recently on a few articles, but he does not seem to understand that simple rule, based first and foremost on WP:BRD. I do not want to go into the many content disputes themselves, which we are currently working on solving, but if any editors would want to give their opinions, I would also appreciate that. IMHO, and excuse me if I sound a little arrogant, Theredheifer is a promising contributor to Wikipedia, but a little too insistent on some inferior phrases and sources. Debresser ( talk) 19:17, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
I was appalled by the state of the lede and first section of the Sukkot article. I have rewritten them, throwing away a lot of garbage, IMHO. It may be argued that some of the things I removed should have a place in the continuation of the article, but given that the sukkot article is rather short, I doubt it. Perhaps some of my fellow editors with knowledge of Jewish festivals would care to have a look? Debresser ( talk) 19:34, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
The above squabble is not called for because the simple way that it has always been resolved in WP articles is by first citing the classical religious sources and point of view, and then later, usually towards the end of such an article, to mention latter-day academic theories (e.g.: ==Academic or Secular or Christian theories== [pick one or some]) without them changing the traditional observance of the Jewish holidays according to the teachings of Judaism and its sources and then later making room for mention of how secular/atheist/Christian/academics/what have you look at such things. WP has room for all POVs as long as they abide by WP:NPOV. IZAK ( talk) 20:36, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Is this project a suitable place to notify others of possible Anti-Semitic editing? If not, advice would be appreciated does the appropriate place. Two kinds of pork Makin' Bacon 01:46, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Requesting to add article: Book of Elchasai to this Wikiproject, and also have an article rating. — JudeccaXIII ( talk) 19:10, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Hello. Is there an article about Temple Beth Am in Los Angeles, California? If so, I cannot find it, and we should create a redirect. Otherwise, would anyone be interested in starting a page about it? It is very historic. Shalom! Zigzig20s ( talk) 09:38, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
There is a rather long discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics#Is Iceman Jewish? about how to characterize the character in question. Anyone input from someone who might be knowledgeable about how we in wikipedia the term in question in context would be more than welcome. John Carter ( talk) 20:10, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Please see the discussion here. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 07:51, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
I am trying to add the following passage to the Kashrut article but I am being reverted. Where can I put it. Here is what I want to put: In the Samaritan Torah, in Exodus 23:19 prohibition is followed by an addition: כי עשה זאת כזבח שכח ועברה היא לאלהי יעקב— “for whoever is doing this, it is like a sacrifice of forgetting and indignation to the God of Jacob”. [1] 76.91.183.145 ( talk) 00:49, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
Hanukkah has two yellow-level maintenance tags on it, which means it will be ineligible for inclusion on WP:Selected anniversaries/December 16. Please rectify this as soon as possible. Thanks. — howcheng { chat} 06:56, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
See Talk:Š-L-M#Requested_move_18_December_2014. GregKaye ✍♪ 07:15, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello, are there thoughts on the article Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ithiel? I wasn't sure if this was the right place to ask about it. -- TKK! bark with me! 04:16, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
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Harej ( talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
I looked at the article on Elazar Avaran and noticed an error in how he was said to have died according to the "scroll of Antiochus" (a/k/a Megillat Antiochus). A wikipedia rollbacker reverted the changes. I made certain to indicate all of my sources are primary sources and I've been discussing this at length on the Talk page. How can I better convince this editor to stop reverting my edits short of teaching them to read Aramaic? Aharonium ( talk) 07:28, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello. To introduce myself, my name is Aharon. I'm a Jewish educator and community planner and outside of Wikipedia I direct a project that I founded called the Open Siddur. I've been working on improving several articles related to open-source and Judaism. One article, on Open-source religion, might lie just outside the scope of WikiProject Judaism, but the other article on Open Source Judaism is pertinent. It's been given a B-Class rating under WikiProject Judaism and WikiProject Jewish culture. I'd like to invite other wikipedia editors to scrutinize and improve all of these articles. Besides my work on these articles, I'm generally curious about efforts in the study of Judaism and the creation of Jewish culture which use open-source licensing to facilitate collaboration in user-generated content projects. (By open-source licensing, I'm referring to licenses such as the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike Open Content and copyleft license under which Wikipedia articles are shared.) My interest in this topic extends to the combined efforts of so many volunteers on Wikipedia as well as on Hebrew Wikisource and other local Wikimedia sites. I'm pleased to see that WikiProject Judaism itself was written about in a Signpost article in 2009. I'm interested in the history of this and similar efforts being documented, so that a history of what I believe to be an important effort be preserved. And so, I'd like to invite, to the degree that Wikipedia guidelines may permit, some discussion of WikiProject Judaism's own history among anyone interested. I invite this discussion with no other motive outside of my interest (which I hope is a shared mutual interest) in documenting history and culture. (If I have transgressed any Wikipedia guideline or convention in presenting this invitation for discussion, then please forgive me. Please receive this invitation in the open spirit in which I intended.) Aharonium ( talk) 17:36, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
My English is not good so I'm sorry in advance. Hi, there is a lot of disorganization in the Template:Jews and Judaism - also mixsing between jews, Judaism and Israel. Not Informative enough and too long.
Also, while surfing i have noticed some incorrect and even some Antisemitism infected values. like the Jews as the chosen people, when i have tried to fix it, Every time they canceled my editing (Also there is a need to add to that value that this idea of the Jews as the chosen people was a top Refueling source for anti-Semitism - Psychological projection, Oedipus complex, that have been used by everyone including Hitler. Read; Avi Beker, The Chosen: The History of An Idea, and the Anatomy of an Obsession, 2008).
I have started with Template:Jews and Judaism - that needs to be ERASED. Which mixed between Jews, Judaism and Israel, was to long and not informative enough.
Instead of Template:Jews and Judaism i have built the 2 Templates: Template:Jews in the world and Template:Judaism; History and Philosophy. Maybe there names also sould be changed(?)
I have noticed that there's also a Template:Antisemitism topics. So I'm going to delete the matter from - Template: Jews in the world and to move it to Template:Antisemitism topics.
It is necessary to decide what would be the topics of the Templates and to organize it all... After that the Templates should be add to all of the relevant values. DaoXan ( talk) 19:06, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I am engaged in a chat on a talk page here with an editor who is of the view that Jewish RSs (e.g., The Forward) and presumably Israeli RSs (the conversation includes Haaretz) should not be relied on as refs for inclusion in text of an article of (certain?) Jewish subjects (such as whether a person is Jewish). The conversation may interest some of you. Epeefleche ( talk) 05:14, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
This article mentions that one of the seven is a prohibition on homosexuality. What's the best Jewish source materials for Wikipedia for definitive lists, allowing for the usual dissent? Encyclopedia Talmudit and Jewish Encyclopedia both cite adultery, with no mention of homosexuality, and they're strong secondary sources. -- Dweller ( talk) 17:11, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Please comment in Talk: Reform movement in Judaism. AddMore ( talk) 18:31, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
A pretty interesting figure who made it to Finance Minister in, of all places, Egypt, and who should have an article. Good sources here, here and here. - 2601:6:8400:478:9E4:FC8:E03A:57BA ( talk) 16:46, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
The usage of the pagename Table of Nations is up for discussion, see talk:Sons of Noah -- 70.51.200.101 ( talk) 12:23, 16 February 2015 (UTC)