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Have you ever had a close look at this strange article: Adolf Hitler's contacts with Jewish people? It's full of red links for the supposed Jews he had contact with (do they deserve articles just because they were Hitler's alleged dentist/shoe-shine-boy/chimney-sweep/whatnots etc?) It's weirdly prurient. The heading stinks. Do all the Jews killed in the Holocaust get to be in it? How about all the theories about Hitler having a Jewish ancestor, does that also count as him having "contact" with Jewish people? I doubt that the originators of this article and those who worked on it have rational objectives. It should be merged with something else involving Adolf Hitler or even deleted for its stupidity. (If not, how about Adolf Hitler's contacts with gypsies, Adolf Hitler's contacts with Italian people, Adolf Hitler's contacts with Russian people, Adolf Hitler's contacts with retarded people, Adolf Hitler's contacts with murderers this can go on forever, and then we can even create Category:Adolf Hitler's contacts with people. IZAK 02:15, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
I received the following emails. I can't think what to do with these anecdotal remarks without a lot of further dialogue, and I'm not going to be doing that. I'm posting the contact here. If someone wants to engage in dialogue with this person, email me (through Wikipedia) and I will pass along the contact address. - Jmabel | Talk 19:46, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
[Content of emails follows]
I'm not well informed enough to post directly, but I'd like to point you to Josephus mentioning Jews in the Ionian Islands.
Now, this is controversial: a Greek diplomat who wasn't oarticularly (sic) pro-Jewish once told me the foundations of Athenian democracy resulted as a reaction to the mistreatement of two Jewish Athenians. I don't know what to make of that.
Keep up the good work.
My dad & my mom's dad hid Jews. Both my parents lost many Jewish friends.
Vasos Panagiotopoulos
[postscript in second email:] I think I read recently that Jews of Southern Italy and Egypt also spoke Greek
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I propose to kick out User:.V. from the list of WP:JH members. The user is a promoter of Holocaust denial [1], see his other edits there and at the talk, and antisemitic conspiracy theories [2], see also its talk page. ← Humus sapiens ну ? 11:13, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
(L-shift) And here is .V.'s attempt to remove Category:Anti-Semitic canards: [7]. All in the interest of NPOV, of course. ← Humus sapiens ну ? 05:44, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
The basic rules would be:
-- User talk:FDuffy 20:48, 6 March 2007 (UTC) If you are a holocaust denier then you should be BANNED from a jewish project!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone on here know where the original Jewish quarter was in comparison to other famous land marks in 12th century Kaifeng City, Henan province, China? This was the home of the Kaifeng Jews. ( Ghostexorcist 19:34, 24 January 2007 (UTC))
Raoul Wallenberg is up for a featured article. Please read the article and leave critical comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Raoul Wallenberg. -- Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 14:58, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm hoping some of you might take a look at a dispute between myself and NYScholar at the bottom of the Palestine Peace not Apartheid discussion page (Section 19: "Criticism vs. Carter's response") and weigh in. To me it seems that the main article is very much not neutral and skewed toward's Carter's POV, but NYScholar is trying to reject my proposed changes. Any input would be appreciated. Gni 16:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
A question at the reference desk demonstrated WP's lack of content regarding Music of the holocaust. (See Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Music_of_the_holocaust_and_other). Some red links brought to our attention by Antandrus (whose answer at the link posted above includes more relevant information): Dawid Ajzensztadt, Dawid Beigelman, Vladimir Durmashkin, Israel Glatstein, Jakub Glatstein, Jósef Koffler, Joachim Mendelson, Marian Neuteich, Nochem Shternheim, and Izrael Szajewicz. I didn't find a more suitable project for posting this observation. --- Sluzzelin talk 08:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Apparently we have a major discrepancy on the Jewish population of Argentina. - Jmabel | Talk 20:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Some input from members of WikiProject Jewish history is requested in regards to a peer review for the Jerusalem article:
I have been working on this article for the past three months and I'm hoping to put this up for featured article status sometime in the near future. Essentially, I'm looking for a critique of the article and suggestions for things that might need to be rectified prior to submitting it for a featured article candidacy.
You are, of course, welcome to assist in other areas as well. Thanks in advance for any help you may provide. -- tariqabjotu 16:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Any chance of more citations from the Holy Scriptures? WikiNew 16:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your hard work. I truly do apologize for introducing POV issues into this, but I think a few minor changes here and there would be good to ensure the objectivity of the article's message. LordAmeth 19:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I would shorten the religious significance section. The sub pages should be sufficient for most of what is there. That would help with the length issue. I might also link to category: neighborhoods of Jerusalem somewhere. -- יהושועEric 03:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
It is important to distingush between the Old City and the New or West and East Jerusalem. Fbc215 18:08, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, could someone please take a look at the Kraków pogrom article? I've recently tagged it as part of this project, and there has been some discussion regarding sources and its status as a pogrom due to the confirmed number of deaths being one. I would appreciate if someone could stick their head in for a look? Thanks SGGH 08:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Jerusalem is currently undergoing a featured article candidacy. The FAC page is transcluded below (feel free to remove it from this page if the FAC gets too long):
Self-nomination The Jerusalem article is comprehensive and very well-referenced, fulfilling all of the featured article criteria. Although there has been some controversy in the past about the idea of Jerusalem being the capital of Israel, the article has remained relatively quiet and stable, with objections being very rare. The article presents the city of Jerusalem in a neutral light with "brilliant" prose. The article does not use any fair-use images and it does not appear to violate any standards set forth by WikiProjects and Wikipedia in general. Before anyone gawks at the length shown when hitting the edit this page link, I would like to note that there are only about thirty-four kilobytes of readable prose; that is well within the "rule of thumb" established by Wikipedia:Article size. -- tariqabjotu 04:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Regards.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 05:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Other cities with long histories? Like ... London or Paris, or Beijing? They are not the subject of bitter disputes over sovereignty. I'm not suggesting that the Israeli hold over the city be ignored in the article, or even in the lead. On the contrary, I'm suggesting that this claim not be framed as the starting point, and that rather a sense of the long, rich, multicultural history of the city be the theme in the opening paragraph, followed by a careful account, from a NPOV stance, of the current geopolitical status. Otherwise, WP might be seen to repeat in its text one of the adversarial perspectives that may be fuelling the real-life conflict. To achieve NPOV in this article, as I stated above, is a difficult task, although achievable, I think, with greater sensitivity to the major groups that lay claim to such sovereignty than is conveyed by the current opening. A special treatment is required; pointing to the structure, tone and content of articles on Moscow or Delhi, IMV, misses the point; Jerusalem is like no other city.
I must reiterate that I mean no ill-will to any religion or cultural group in my recommendation that a more balanced opening be developed. My only concern is to ensure that WP's worldwide reputation for balance is not put at the slightest risk by a gold-star endorsement of the opening wording. Tony 09:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
As well as Criterion 1d, I wish to broaden my objection to 1a. Here are examples of why:
Theirs was the most storied romance in Hollywood.
I suggest that you use a more familiar word, and one that you can be sure is appropriate. Romance novels or the tabloids may "story" a love affair, but I'm unsure whether the history of a city is an appropriate use for this epithet.
These were examples of why the whole article needs the attention of a copy-editor, preferably one who's unfamiliar with the text.
It's easy to accuse me of "overanalysing" that passage, but you offer no qualitative rejoinder or rebuttal to the points I made in that analysis: that the bias is subtle and infused throughout the wording. Accusing me of "petty semantics" and "reading into things too hard" isn't going to contribute to serious debate here, either. And if you don't care about ungainly repetition, right at the top, you've come to the wrong place; this article isn't going to satisfy the criteria. Nor is your insincere and apparently gloating "que sera sera" a serious rebuttal. There's a circularity about the world-view espoused here. Tony 07:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
"Modern Israel" (as a state, with all of the advantages and prestige that a nation carries) is pitted agains individual "Arabs". The nation frame is reinforced in the same sentence with "the country's". The western part of the city is framed in terms of national ownership, and one that extends outward geographically into the "nation". By contrast, the other major group, the Arabs, are billed as only "mostly" populating "areas"; these are worded in terms of areas that "may be found" (vs. "extending"), and are further described as mere "districts". The bias in this article would provide fodder for a whole linguistics PhD dissertation.
Comment: I was going to make a point-by-point analysis of the history section to demostrate it weaknesses, which are multiple. Since I have no time for that right, it may be enough to point out the on-going disputes on talk regarding history and lead to show that the article in its current state is light years away from featured status. Beit Or 21:21, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
The Pact was probably originated about 637 by Omar I after the conquest of Christian Syria and Palestine. By accretions from established practices and precedents, the Pact was extended; yet despite these additions the whole Pact was ascribed to Omar...It is generally assumed that its present form dates from about the ninth century
Jewish Question is currently stubby and needs more cites. I should think that we'd be able to do quite a lot with this. -- Writtenonsand 13:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh boy, what a beautiful OR essay. I wish that more editors would read up on WP policies before spending long hours writing new articles. -- Shuki 23:42, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
There's a discussion over the naming of " Israeli lira" or " Israeli pound". See Talk:Israeli lira#Requested move. Epson291 08:08, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Hebrew calendar has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. - Kicking222 15:54, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
There is a sudden effort by new user(s) to turn the infoboxes in these articles into a crazy POV tapestry of images. Some of them are just too much (to my taste), some misrepresent the subject as misogynistic freakish (Einstein with tongue out) bunch of revolutionaries. Please consider joining the discussions at the corresponding talk pages. ← Humus sapiens ну ? 23:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
A controversy currently exists at the page Ashkenazi Jews concerning the selection of a collage image with a sampling of famous Ashkenazi Jewish individuals. The collage appears in the Infobox for the article. Please visit Talk:Ashkenazi_Jews to offer your opinion. -- Metzenberg 09:02, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Hello! Could I ask members to review the article Holocaust trains, which through a large re-write was saved from an AfD proposal. It would also be welcome if members could input to the dialogue on the articles talk page about an appropraite name for the page. Thank You! Rgds, - Trident13 11:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Is anyone capable of writing articles about:
Thank you, IZAK 08:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't know how related to the project this is, but the article may be demoted from FA status soon, so any help in improving it (especially adding inline citations) to prevent that would be excellent. nadav ( talk) 21:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
proposal here to rename {{Jewish-hist-stub}} to {{Judaism-hist-stub}} may be of interest ⇒ bsnowball 18:43, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I have brought the header template into accord with those such as {{ WikiProject Israel}} allowing for the small, nesting, quality assesment and importance assesment flags. I have also created the appropriate categories. Now its time we all try and start assessing/rating the articles. -- Avi 20:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I also set up the assessment bot to collect stats, and added the matrix to the project page. -- Avi 21:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I've just come across Jewish Slave trade, which was created by Serenesoulnyc ( talk · contribs), who has since been banned for sock-puppetry. The article is poorly written, barely cited and smells to me of POV and OR.
The "References" section lists specific pages in four books:
The same books and the same pages are listed in White slavery#References. I suspect someone has been sneaking anti-Semitic POV into Wikipedia. I suggest checking the contributions of Serenesoulnyc and his/her socks.
I don't have access to any reference libraries, nor do I know much Jewish history. Could someone please take a look at these articles and clean them up? Or perhaps Jewish Slave trade should simply be deleted?
Cheers, CWC 11:47, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
People like Nevi'im, Rishonim, etc. are they part of WP:JEW, WP:JH, or both? -- Avi 17:13, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
The Ebionites article is featured on the Wiki main page July 9th. Vandalism of the article has already begun. Please help to monitor the article and rv vandalism as needed. Thank you. Ovadyah 02:59, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Is there an established precedent for whether to disambiguate a title as (bible) versus (biblical)? There seems to be dual usage, as well as others like (ancient city) etc. Do let me know, Tewfik Talk 22:10, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Warsaw Ghetto and related articles ( Warsaw Ghetto Uprising etc.) - pretty important and quite good quality IMO. -- HanzoHattori 21:47, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Odd place to advertise for a WP:NBA guy, but Jewish Boston Celtics NBA legend Red Auerbach is currently a GAC. Feel free to feedback and improve on the greatest Jew basketball has produced. — Onomatopoeia 07:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
I added the extra condition for the category:jews that people should only appear in this category if their jewish ethnicity or adherence to Judaism is a defining characteristic or related to their notability. I was reverted very quickly. Please let us know what you think at category_talk:jews. Andries 17:56, 29 July 2007 (UTC) I moved this here from the main article page and put it in chronological order -- Steven J. Anderson ( talk) 00:37, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Someone needs to clean up this article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_slave_trade
Can anyone help out on further improvements to the Ebionites article? The editors that guided it through FA need a break. The article is currently beset by an aggressive editor pushing an Essene agenda. I have asked for commentary from Ft/N and an RFC to bring in a more balanced perspective. The Religious perspectives section also needs expansion. Ovadyah 21:23, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
I have put forth a peer review for the Israel article at Wikipedia:Peer review/Israel/archive1. Comments are welcome there (and on Talk:Israel, if you prefer). -- tariqabjotu 19:58, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
At this moment, a significant case is occurring at the page for arbitration proceedings, at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Allegations of apartheid/Workshop, a subpage of Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Allegations_of_apartheid.
A group of editors has been developing an article entitled "Allegations of Israeli apartheid." In response, a group of editors attempted to build a set of articles detailing allegations of "apartheid" in other countries.
In response some editors of the Israel-apartheid article allege that editors who worked on articles about other countries have violated WP:POINT. However editors of articles on other countries say that they were trying to foster some objectivity.
Currently, the ArbCom case has shown somewhat of a pattern of conflicting allegations about various users' conduct, related to both sides in the dispute. This was inevitable, since ArbCom's primary focus is user conduct, not content disputes.
Your help might be useful. Please go to this proceeding and insert your comments on what you feel are the best ways to achieve fairness and balance, in accordance with Wikipedia principles.
If you wish, you may also weigh in at WP:VPP, on the question of whether ArbCom or some other body should address content disputes, in order to somewhat reduce the cycle of accuations and allegations.
Thank you. -- Steve, Sm8900 03:01, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
User:Eretzprevails keeps on adding a personal account at the end of the page - It has been transferred to the talk-page twice. But User:Eretzprevails is persisting it be on the main page. I am not quite sure how to stop this? Chesdovi 11:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Ebionites has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. -- Avi 18:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
The non-hassidic Chofetz Chaim is categorised under Category:Hasidic rebbes, however I can not see this category on the edit page to remove it?! Chesdovi 11:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
I found this photo among my uncle’s belongings. I think it is a photo of the Telz yeshiva in Lithuania which he attened in his youth. Can anyone help establish what the photo is of and who is on the podium? It was taken around 1936. Thanks! Chesdovi 16:36, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
I was quite surprised today to discover that there was no Wiki article on the above.
I just stumbled over this sentence about WWII concentration camps: "Jewish male prisoners had access to (and used) Jewish women forced into camp brothels by the Nazis, who also used them.". This is in the article Violence against women. Alfons Åberg 14:08, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Information about persecutions of Jews by troops of Stefan Czarniecki is being removed from article as not relevant. Jewish history tags are removed also. I might be wrong of cause, but somehow I feel persecutions of Jews does have something to do with Jewish history. Opinions? M0RD00R 16:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Please see this [12] - can someone explain to me how to get wider participants ? thanks, Zeq 21:24, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
The series of articles on the History of the Jews in Europe is complete. All the European countries have articles, even if they are stubs for now. However there are still two more: History of the Jews in Wales and History of the Jews in Northern Ireland (see related articles History of the Jews in England and History of the Jews in Scotland) that are listed as countries in template {{|Europe topic|History of the Jews in}} that require someone to add information and start the article. If you are able to, your efforts would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, IZAK 07:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Protocols of Zion (imprints). Thank you, IZAK 09:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Jewish Bolshevism. Thanks, IZAK 10:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Many articles in both History of the Brenham Jewish Community as well as History of the Galveston Jewish Community are being considered for deletion. These are two Jewish communities that have over 150 year histories and many notable individuals. Thanks. Bhaktivinode 22:37, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
FYI - The first Jewish Texan article proposed for deletion today was Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Temple Freda. Thanks. Bhaktivinode 22:44, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi: Your input would be greatly appreciated at the discussion Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Nominations of Texas Jews articles for deletion. Thanks a lot, IZAK 21:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
In a sweeping nomination at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Race and intelligence (history), the Ashkenazi intelligence article was not listed as part of an original group in the AfD until a later user mentioned the article and then the nominator decided to add it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Race and intelligence (history)#One more? Ashkenazi intelligence. Unfortunately, by that time the nomination had already attracted a lot of negative attention with ten delete votes already having been cast making it essentially impossible for those only concerned with the Ashkenazi intelligence subject to be heard or noticed, and among the votes that are still coming in afterwards it is not clear if they understood what the serious tinkering additions by the nominator were all about, or if he was even right to do so. Futhermore, being "Ashkenazi" is not a "race" by any definition. The Ashkenazim are a cultural and historical group of Jews, not really even an ethnicity, consisting of a variety of Jews with a common religious and historical culture originating mainly from France, Germany, Poland, Lithuania, and Russia, so that Ashkenazi Jews are a recognized and respectable group, not a "race" in any way, so it is a mistake to match them up or compare them to any "racial" articles. For the sake of clarity the Ashkenazi intelligence should be removed from this nomination due to the confusion and the non-orderly and out of sequence manner in which it was included. The Ashkenazi intelligence article survived an AfD in February, 2007, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashkenazi intelligence. Based on the incorrect manner and negative timing that the Ashkenazi intelligence was included in the general vote about "Race and intelligence" it must be withdrawn from this AfD. If anyone wishs to have a new nomination, they can go ahead, but it definitely should not have been lumped with a set of articles not connected to it in content or spirit. Your input and intervention is requested. Thank you, IZAK 19:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
SEE: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Relisting Ashkenazi intelligence as a separate vote: "I think that pages should only be grouped together on XfD if all the following criteria are met: (1) There is a single place to discuss all the pages. (2) It is unlikely that any user will have diferent opinions about the pages. (3) They were all listed within an hour of when the discussion page was created. As the third criteria clearly wasn't met, I think that lumping it in here was the wrong thing to do. Od Mishehu 08:47, 25 October 2007 (UTC)" Thank you, IZAK 19:06, 25 October 2007 (UTC) IZAK 19:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Please see the present discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countering systemic bias/open tasks#WikiProject Judaism needs help - geographical bias concerns. Your input would be greatly appreciated. (They are the result of discussions that unfolded at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Concern about duplicating Reform and Progressive labels.) Thanks so much, IZAK 00:39, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
This admin candidate has a Nazi emblem on his user page. Any thoughts [13] about his fitness for adminship? I'm not Jewish and I thought it was very ill judged, he considers it a joke ('I copied this box from another user's example, because I thought it was funny') and hasn't seen fit to remove it despite several complaints in his RFA. Perhaps he's right and I'm completely off base here, or perhaps not. Nick mallory 15:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
HI: User TShilo12 ( talk · contribs) asked me a question about Massacre of Uman and perhaps someone here can help him out. The qustion he asks is: "I just listened to a program of Gavriel Aryeh Sanders' ( http://www.gavrielsanders/com/) on Uman, and went and looked up the city article, and found a link to this article, which seems to have no references and a lot of weaselwording. I don't know whose attention it would be best to bring this to, to effect some improvement, so I'm hoping that by bringing it to your attention, that you will know whom best to contact." Please contact User:TShilo12 if you are able to help him. Thank you, IZAK 05:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Although I'm not presently a member of the project, I question User:IZAK's adding multiple categories and multiple articles in multiple categories related to Jewish history. I think, at the very least, no article should be in more than two of the Jewish history by century categories, someone needs to make sure that subcategories are subcategories rather than possibly supercategories, etc. Wikipedia:Categories is being streched beyond recognition, if not just being ignored. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 17:18, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Attention is needed from project members on these two articles. User:Bandurist is using unreliable sources, such as Wikipedia mirror answers.com and the Ukrainian Wikipedia in order to justify their edits to the article. The user is also removing or attributing to "Jewish sources" the well-sourced material on the involvement of the Nachtigall Battalion and its commander Roman Shukhevych in the massacre of Jews in Lviv in July 1941. Beit Or 20:52, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Anne Frank has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Tvoz | talk 16:16, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
The Gordon Winrod and Gerald B. Winrod articles are being skewed by an editor who may be a family member of the subjects. Tactful help from additional experienced editors who are interested in nailing down facts of living persons would be useful. Sources beyond those listed might include: [14], [15], [16]. I bring it here because this project seems the closest to dealing with antisemitism. ✤ JonHarder talk 15:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, this article was a wreck. I didn't have much time, but I tried to make some fairly radical changes to bring it back to a decent state, after a series of edits by Attila Lajos (who wrote his PhD thesis on Wallenberg [17]) that gave the article a rather non-neutral point of view. I hope that by posting here I can draw some attention to it so that someone might be able to give it the time it deserves. – Joke 21:58, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Still needed is an article about the History of the Jews in Wales to complete the History of the Jews in Europe. Thanks, IZAK ( talk) 12:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, there is a need for an article about the History of the Jews in Singapore. At the present time there are articles about the Chesed-El Synagogue and the Maghain Aboth Synagogue in Singapore that have some facts that may help such an article. Thanks, IZAK ( talk) 15:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Opinion of an expert needed. This persons role in Jewish history is constantly beeing censored out by certain group of hyper-patriotic users. Because this person is mentioned in Polish national anthem any different reaction would be a surprise, but nevertheless Czarniecki troops destroyed dozens of Jewish communities all over Poland and this fact is worth mentioning in Wikipedia I guess. So far Jewish encyclopedias and other sources are dismissed as WP:FRINGE and the section is being deleted. M0RD00R ( talk) 19:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't want to sound like a crank, but does anyone here watch pages? Jewish history got shredded back in October, when this edit took out over 5000 bytes. None of it ever got restored until today when I did it. It was one of those situations where three or four acts of vandalism were committed consecutively and only one got reverted. I'd be happy to join up and try to help. -- Steven J. Anderson ( talk) 11:01, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Please, somebody visit Houston Stewart Chamberlain, and look over the somewhat heated discussion on Talk: Houston Stewart Chamberlain. The article is in my belief an insidious piece of apologia/revisionism and is in desperate need of a recasting. This is a position I try to state clearly and source amply. But I am finding myself ill-equipped (emotionally) to deal with the editor who has taken it upon himself to protect it. Some of the statements that are made are pretty shocking. I am an animal ecologist - and had no idea how intense meddling with history could be! By all means leave questions/comments here or on my talk page or on the Chamberlain talk page. Thank you, Eliezg ( talk) 10:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
An odd situation has arisen in the course of adding to Category:Jewish history by country. In that parent category (part of the larger Category:Jewish history) the "Jewish histories" of any country has been categorized under "Category:Jewish country-xyz history" but Category:Jewish Saudi Arabian history has now been challenged because it contains articles about events "before" Saudi Arabia came into official existence. But my objection is, in that case, one could then exclude the facts and events of Jewish history within almost all modern countries because when Jewish history events happened in them hundreds or even thousands of years ago, the modern countries in whose territory they happened had not yet come into existence. See the discussion at Category talk:Jewish Saudi Arabian history. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 04:14, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Please have a look at League of East European States, an article which was originally titled " Judeopolonia", a term for this which is apparently mostly used in conspiracy literature. It'll be difficult to tease out the particulars of this obscure historical event, but we should be careful that popular mythologies don't adversely affect the article. Thanks.-- Pharos ( talk) 05:03, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
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Have you ever had a close look at this strange article: Adolf Hitler's contacts with Jewish people? It's full of red links for the supposed Jews he had contact with (do they deserve articles just because they were Hitler's alleged dentist/shoe-shine-boy/chimney-sweep/whatnots etc?) It's weirdly prurient. The heading stinks. Do all the Jews killed in the Holocaust get to be in it? How about all the theories about Hitler having a Jewish ancestor, does that also count as him having "contact" with Jewish people? I doubt that the originators of this article and those who worked on it have rational objectives. It should be merged with something else involving Adolf Hitler or even deleted for its stupidity. (If not, how about Adolf Hitler's contacts with gypsies, Adolf Hitler's contacts with Italian people, Adolf Hitler's contacts with Russian people, Adolf Hitler's contacts with retarded people, Adolf Hitler's contacts with murderers this can go on forever, and then we can even create Category:Adolf Hitler's contacts with people. IZAK 02:15, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
I received the following emails. I can't think what to do with these anecdotal remarks without a lot of further dialogue, and I'm not going to be doing that. I'm posting the contact here. If someone wants to engage in dialogue with this person, email me (through Wikipedia) and I will pass along the contact address. - Jmabel | Talk 19:46, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
[Content of emails follows]
I'm not well informed enough to post directly, but I'd like to point you to Josephus mentioning Jews in the Ionian Islands.
Now, this is controversial: a Greek diplomat who wasn't oarticularly (sic) pro-Jewish once told me the foundations of Athenian democracy resulted as a reaction to the mistreatement of two Jewish Athenians. I don't know what to make of that.
Keep up the good work.
My dad & my mom's dad hid Jews. Both my parents lost many Jewish friends.
Vasos Panagiotopoulos
[postscript in second email:] I think I read recently that Jews of Southern Italy and Egypt also spoke Greek
[End content of emails]
I propose to kick out User:.V. from the list of WP:JH members. The user is a promoter of Holocaust denial [1], see his other edits there and at the talk, and antisemitic conspiracy theories [2], see also its talk page. ← Humus sapiens ну ? 11:13, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
(L-shift) And here is .V.'s attempt to remove Category:Anti-Semitic canards: [7]. All in the interest of NPOV, of course. ← Humus sapiens ну ? 05:44, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
The basic rules would be:
-- User talk:FDuffy 20:48, 6 March 2007 (UTC) If you are a holocaust denier then you should be BANNED from a jewish project!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone on here know where the original Jewish quarter was in comparison to other famous land marks in 12th century Kaifeng City, Henan province, China? This was the home of the Kaifeng Jews. ( Ghostexorcist 19:34, 24 January 2007 (UTC))
Raoul Wallenberg is up for a featured article. Please read the article and leave critical comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Raoul Wallenberg. -- Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 14:58, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm hoping some of you might take a look at a dispute between myself and NYScholar at the bottom of the Palestine Peace not Apartheid discussion page (Section 19: "Criticism vs. Carter's response") and weigh in. To me it seems that the main article is very much not neutral and skewed toward's Carter's POV, but NYScholar is trying to reject my proposed changes. Any input would be appreciated. Gni 16:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
A question at the reference desk demonstrated WP's lack of content regarding Music of the holocaust. (See Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Music_of_the_holocaust_and_other). Some red links brought to our attention by Antandrus (whose answer at the link posted above includes more relevant information): Dawid Ajzensztadt, Dawid Beigelman, Vladimir Durmashkin, Israel Glatstein, Jakub Glatstein, Jósef Koffler, Joachim Mendelson, Marian Neuteich, Nochem Shternheim, and Izrael Szajewicz. I didn't find a more suitable project for posting this observation. --- Sluzzelin talk 08:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Apparently we have a major discrepancy on the Jewish population of Argentina. - Jmabel | Talk 20:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Some input from members of WikiProject Jewish history is requested in regards to a peer review for the Jerusalem article:
I have been working on this article for the past three months and I'm hoping to put this up for featured article status sometime in the near future. Essentially, I'm looking for a critique of the article and suggestions for things that might need to be rectified prior to submitting it for a featured article candidacy.
You are, of course, welcome to assist in other areas as well. Thanks in advance for any help you may provide. -- tariqabjotu 16:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Any chance of more citations from the Holy Scriptures? WikiNew 16:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your hard work. I truly do apologize for introducing POV issues into this, but I think a few minor changes here and there would be good to ensure the objectivity of the article's message. LordAmeth 19:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I would shorten the religious significance section. The sub pages should be sufficient for most of what is there. That would help with the length issue. I might also link to category: neighborhoods of Jerusalem somewhere. -- יהושועEric 03:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
It is important to distingush between the Old City and the New or West and East Jerusalem. Fbc215 18:08, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, could someone please take a look at the Kraków pogrom article? I've recently tagged it as part of this project, and there has been some discussion regarding sources and its status as a pogrom due to the confirmed number of deaths being one. I would appreciate if someone could stick their head in for a look? Thanks SGGH 08:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Jerusalem is currently undergoing a featured article candidacy. The FAC page is transcluded below (feel free to remove it from this page if the FAC gets too long):
Self-nomination The Jerusalem article is comprehensive and very well-referenced, fulfilling all of the featured article criteria. Although there has been some controversy in the past about the idea of Jerusalem being the capital of Israel, the article has remained relatively quiet and stable, with objections being very rare. The article presents the city of Jerusalem in a neutral light with "brilliant" prose. The article does not use any fair-use images and it does not appear to violate any standards set forth by WikiProjects and Wikipedia in general. Before anyone gawks at the length shown when hitting the edit this page link, I would like to note that there are only about thirty-four kilobytes of readable prose; that is well within the "rule of thumb" established by Wikipedia:Article size. -- tariqabjotu 04:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Regards.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 05:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Other cities with long histories? Like ... London or Paris, or Beijing? They are not the subject of bitter disputes over sovereignty. I'm not suggesting that the Israeli hold over the city be ignored in the article, or even in the lead. On the contrary, I'm suggesting that this claim not be framed as the starting point, and that rather a sense of the long, rich, multicultural history of the city be the theme in the opening paragraph, followed by a careful account, from a NPOV stance, of the current geopolitical status. Otherwise, WP might be seen to repeat in its text one of the adversarial perspectives that may be fuelling the real-life conflict. To achieve NPOV in this article, as I stated above, is a difficult task, although achievable, I think, with greater sensitivity to the major groups that lay claim to such sovereignty than is conveyed by the current opening. A special treatment is required; pointing to the structure, tone and content of articles on Moscow or Delhi, IMV, misses the point; Jerusalem is like no other city.
I must reiterate that I mean no ill-will to any religion or cultural group in my recommendation that a more balanced opening be developed. My only concern is to ensure that WP's worldwide reputation for balance is not put at the slightest risk by a gold-star endorsement of the opening wording. Tony 09:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
As well as Criterion 1d, I wish to broaden my objection to 1a. Here are examples of why:
Theirs was the most storied romance in Hollywood.
I suggest that you use a more familiar word, and one that you can be sure is appropriate. Romance novels or the tabloids may "story" a love affair, but I'm unsure whether the history of a city is an appropriate use for this epithet.
These were examples of why the whole article needs the attention of a copy-editor, preferably one who's unfamiliar with the text.
It's easy to accuse me of "overanalysing" that passage, but you offer no qualitative rejoinder or rebuttal to the points I made in that analysis: that the bias is subtle and infused throughout the wording. Accusing me of "petty semantics" and "reading into things too hard" isn't going to contribute to serious debate here, either. And if you don't care about ungainly repetition, right at the top, you've come to the wrong place; this article isn't going to satisfy the criteria. Nor is your insincere and apparently gloating "que sera sera" a serious rebuttal. There's a circularity about the world-view espoused here. Tony 07:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
"Modern Israel" (as a state, with all of the advantages and prestige that a nation carries) is pitted agains individual "Arabs". The nation frame is reinforced in the same sentence with "the country's". The western part of the city is framed in terms of national ownership, and one that extends outward geographically into the "nation". By contrast, the other major group, the Arabs, are billed as only "mostly" populating "areas"; these are worded in terms of areas that "may be found" (vs. "extending"), and are further described as mere "districts". The bias in this article would provide fodder for a whole linguistics PhD dissertation.
Comment: I was going to make a point-by-point analysis of the history section to demostrate it weaknesses, which are multiple. Since I have no time for that right, it may be enough to point out the on-going disputes on talk regarding history and lead to show that the article in its current state is light years away from featured status. Beit Or 21:21, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
The Pact was probably originated about 637 by Omar I after the conquest of Christian Syria and Palestine. By accretions from established practices and precedents, the Pact was extended; yet despite these additions the whole Pact was ascribed to Omar...It is generally assumed that its present form dates from about the ninth century
Jewish Question is currently stubby and needs more cites. I should think that we'd be able to do quite a lot with this. -- Writtenonsand 13:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh boy, what a beautiful OR essay. I wish that more editors would read up on WP policies before spending long hours writing new articles. -- Shuki 23:42, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
There's a discussion over the naming of " Israeli lira" or " Israeli pound". See Talk:Israeli lira#Requested move. Epson291 08:08, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Hebrew calendar has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. - Kicking222 15:54, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
There is a sudden effort by new user(s) to turn the infoboxes in these articles into a crazy POV tapestry of images. Some of them are just too much (to my taste), some misrepresent the subject as misogynistic freakish (Einstein with tongue out) bunch of revolutionaries. Please consider joining the discussions at the corresponding talk pages. ← Humus sapiens ну ? 23:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
A controversy currently exists at the page Ashkenazi Jews concerning the selection of a collage image with a sampling of famous Ashkenazi Jewish individuals. The collage appears in the Infobox for the article. Please visit Talk:Ashkenazi_Jews to offer your opinion. -- Metzenberg 09:02, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Hello! Could I ask members to review the article Holocaust trains, which through a large re-write was saved from an AfD proposal. It would also be welcome if members could input to the dialogue on the articles talk page about an appropraite name for the page. Thank You! Rgds, - Trident13 11:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Is anyone capable of writing articles about:
Thank you, IZAK 08:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't know how related to the project this is, but the article may be demoted from FA status soon, so any help in improving it (especially adding inline citations) to prevent that would be excellent. nadav ( talk) 21:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
proposal here to rename {{Jewish-hist-stub}} to {{Judaism-hist-stub}} may be of interest ⇒ bsnowball 18:43, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I have brought the header template into accord with those such as {{ WikiProject Israel}} allowing for the small, nesting, quality assesment and importance assesment flags. I have also created the appropriate categories. Now its time we all try and start assessing/rating the articles. -- Avi 20:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I also set up the assessment bot to collect stats, and added the matrix to the project page. -- Avi 21:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I've just come across Jewish Slave trade, which was created by Serenesoulnyc ( talk · contribs), who has since been banned for sock-puppetry. The article is poorly written, barely cited and smells to me of POV and OR.
The "References" section lists specific pages in four books:
The same books and the same pages are listed in White slavery#References. I suspect someone has been sneaking anti-Semitic POV into Wikipedia. I suggest checking the contributions of Serenesoulnyc and his/her socks.
I don't have access to any reference libraries, nor do I know much Jewish history. Could someone please take a look at these articles and clean them up? Or perhaps Jewish Slave trade should simply be deleted?
Cheers, CWC 11:47, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
People like Nevi'im, Rishonim, etc. are they part of WP:JEW, WP:JH, or both? -- Avi 17:13, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
The Ebionites article is featured on the Wiki main page July 9th. Vandalism of the article has already begun. Please help to monitor the article and rv vandalism as needed. Thank you. Ovadyah 02:59, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Is there an established precedent for whether to disambiguate a title as (bible) versus (biblical)? There seems to be dual usage, as well as others like (ancient city) etc. Do let me know, Tewfik Talk 22:10, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Warsaw Ghetto and related articles ( Warsaw Ghetto Uprising etc.) - pretty important and quite good quality IMO. -- HanzoHattori 21:47, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Odd place to advertise for a WP:NBA guy, but Jewish Boston Celtics NBA legend Red Auerbach is currently a GAC. Feel free to feedback and improve on the greatest Jew basketball has produced. — Onomatopoeia 07:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
I added the extra condition for the category:jews that people should only appear in this category if their jewish ethnicity or adherence to Judaism is a defining characteristic or related to their notability. I was reverted very quickly. Please let us know what you think at category_talk:jews. Andries 17:56, 29 July 2007 (UTC) I moved this here from the main article page and put it in chronological order -- Steven J. Anderson ( talk) 00:37, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Someone needs to clean up this article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_slave_trade
Can anyone help out on further improvements to the Ebionites article? The editors that guided it through FA need a break. The article is currently beset by an aggressive editor pushing an Essene agenda. I have asked for commentary from Ft/N and an RFC to bring in a more balanced perspective. The Religious perspectives section also needs expansion. Ovadyah 21:23, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
I have put forth a peer review for the Israel article at Wikipedia:Peer review/Israel/archive1. Comments are welcome there (and on Talk:Israel, if you prefer). -- tariqabjotu 19:58, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
At this moment, a significant case is occurring at the page for arbitration proceedings, at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Allegations of apartheid/Workshop, a subpage of Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Allegations_of_apartheid.
A group of editors has been developing an article entitled "Allegations of Israeli apartheid." In response, a group of editors attempted to build a set of articles detailing allegations of "apartheid" in other countries.
In response some editors of the Israel-apartheid article allege that editors who worked on articles about other countries have violated WP:POINT. However editors of articles on other countries say that they were trying to foster some objectivity.
Currently, the ArbCom case has shown somewhat of a pattern of conflicting allegations about various users' conduct, related to both sides in the dispute. This was inevitable, since ArbCom's primary focus is user conduct, not content disputes.
Your help might be useful. Please go to this proceeding and insert your comments on what you feel are the best ways to achieve fairness and balance, in accordance with Wikipedia principles.
If you wish, you may also weigh in at WP:VPP, on the question of whether ArbCom or some other body should address content disputes, in order to somewhat reduce the cycle of accuations and allegations.
Thank you. -- Steve, Sm8900 03:01, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
User:Eretzprevails keeps on adding a personal account at the end of the page - It has been transferred to the talk-page twice. But User:Eretzprevails is persisting it be on the main page. I am not quite sure how to stop this? Chesdovi 11:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Ebionites has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. -- Avi 18:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
The non-hassidic Chofetz Chaim is categorised under Category:Hasidic rebbes, however I can not see this category on the edit page to remove it?! Chesdovi 11:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
I found this photo among my uncle’s belongings. I think it is a photo of the Telz yeshiva in Lithuania which he attened in his youth. Can anyone help establish what the photo is of and who is on the podium? It was taken around 1936. Thanks! Chesdovi 16:36, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
I was quite surprised today to discover that there was no Wiki article on the above.
I just stumbled over this sentence about WWII concentration camps: "Jewish male prisoners had access to (and used) Jewish women forced into camp brothels by the Nazis, who also used them.". This is in the article Violence against women. Alfons Åberg 14:08, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Information about persecutions of Jews by troops of Stefan Czarniecki is being removed from article as not relevant. Jewish history tags are removed also. I might be wrong of cause, but somehow I feel persecutions of Jews does have something to do with Jewish history. Opinions? M0RD00R 16:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Please see this [12] - can someone explain to me how to get wider participants ? thanks, Zeq 21:24, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
The series of articles on the History of the Jews in Europe is complete. All the European countries have articles, even if they are stubs for now. However there are still two more: History of the Jews in Wales and History of the Jews in Northern Ireland (see related articles History of the Jews in England and History of the Jews in Scotland) that are listed as countries in template {{|Europe topic|History of the Jews in}} that require someone to add information and start the article. If you are able to, your efforts would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, IZAK 07:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Protocols of Zion (imprints). Thank you, IZAK 09:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Jewish Bolshevism. Thanks, IZAK 10:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Many articles in both History of the Brenham Jewish Community as well as History of the Galveston Jewish Community are being considered for deletion. These are two Jewish communities that have over 150 year histories and many notable individuals. Thanks. Bhaktivinode 22:37, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
FYI - The first Jewish Texan article proposed for deletion today was Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Temple Freda. Thanks. Bhaktivinode 22:44, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi: Your input would be greatly appreciated at the discussion Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Nominations of Texas Jews articles for deletion. Thanks a lot, IZAK 21:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
In a sweeping nomination at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Race and intelligence (history), the Ashkenazi intelligence article was not listed as part of an original group in the AfD until a later user mentioned the article and then the nominator decided to add it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Race and intelligence (history)#One more? Ashkenazi intelligence. Unfortunately, by that time the nomination had already attracted a lot of negative attention with ten delete votes already having been cast making it essentially impossible for those only concerned with the Ashkenazi intelligence subject to be heard or noticed, and among the votes that are still coming in afterwards it is not clear if they understood what the serious tinkering additions by the nominator were all about, or if he was even right to do so. Futhermore, being "Ashkenazi" is not a "race" by any definition. The Ashkenazim are a cultural and historical group of Jews, not really even an ethnicity, consisting of a variety of Jews with a common religious and historical culture originating mainly from France, Germany, Poland, Lithuania, and Russia, so that Ashkenazi Jews are a recognized and respectable group, not a "race" in any way, so it is a mistake to match them up or compare them to any "racial" articles. For the sake of clarity the Ashkenazi intelligence should be removed from this nomination due to the confusion and the non-orderly and out of sequence manner in which it was included. The Ashkenazi intelligence article survived an AfD in February, 2007, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashkenazi intelligence. Based on the incorrect manner and negative timing that the Ashkenazi intelligence was included in the general vote about "Race and intelligence" it must be withdrawn from this AfD. If anyone wishs to have a new nomination, they can go ahead, but it definitely should not have been lumped with a set of articles not connected to it in content or spirit. Your input and intervention is requested. Thank you, IZAK 19:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
SEE: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Relisting Ashkenazi intelligence as a separate vote: "I think that pages should only be grouped together on XfD if all the following criteria are met: (1) There is a single place to discuss all the pages. (2) It is unlikely that any user will have diferent opinions about the pages. (3) They were all listed within an hour of when the discussion page was created. As the third criteria clearly wasn't met, I think that lumping it in here was the wrong thing to do. Od Mishehu 08:47, 25 October 2007 (UTC)" Thank you, IZAK 19:06, 25 October 2007 (UTC) IZAK 19:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Please see the present discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countering systemic bias/open tasks#WikiProject Judaism needs help - geographical bias concerns. Your input would be greatly appreciated. (They are the result of discussions that unfolded at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Concern about duplicating Reform and Progressive labels.) Thanks so much, IZAK 00:39, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
This admin candidate has a Nazi emblem on his user page. Any thoughts [13] about his fitness for adminship? I'm not Jewish and I thought it was very ill judged, he considers it a joke ('I copied this box from another user's example, because I thought it was funny') and hasn't seen fit to remove it despite several complaints in his RFA. Perhaps he's right and I'm completely off base here, or perhaps not. Nick mallory 15:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
HI: User TShilo12 ( talk · contribs) asked me a question about Massacre of Uman and perhaps someone here can help him out. The qustion he asks is: "I just listened to a program of Gavriel Aryeh Sanders' ( http://www.gavrielsanders/com/) on Uman, and went and looked up the city article, and found a link to this article, which seems to have no references and a lot of weaselwording. I don't know whose attention it would be best to bring this to, to effect some improvement, so I'm hoping that by bringing it to your attention, that you will know whom best to contact." Please contact User:TShilo12 if you are able to help him. Thank you, IZAK 05:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Although I'm not presently a member of the project, I question User:IZAK's adding multiple categories and multiple articles in multiple categories related to Jewish history. I think, at the very least, no article should be in more than two of the Jewish history by century categories, someone needs to make sure that subcategories are subcategories rather than possibly supercategories, etc. Wikipedia:Categories is being streched beyond recognition, if not just being ignored. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 17:18, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Attention is needed from project members on these two articles. User:Bandurist is using unreliable sources, such as Wikipedia mirror answers.com and the Ukrainian Wikipedia in order to justify their edits to the article. The user is also removing or attributing to "Jewish sources" the well-sourced material on the involvement of the Nachtigall Battalion and its commander Roman Shukhevych in the massacre of Jews in Lviv in July 1941. Beit Or 20:52, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Anne Frank has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Tvoz | talk 16:16, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
The Gordon Winrod and Gerald B. Winrod articles are being skewed by an editor who may be a family member of the subjects. Tactful help from additional experienced editors who are interested in nailing down facts of living persons would be useful. Sources beyond those listed might include: [14], [15], [16]. I bring it here because this project seems the closest to dealing with antisemitism. ✤ JonHarder talk 15:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, this article was a wreck. I didn't have much time, but I tried to make some fairly radical changes to bring it back to a decent state, after a series of edits by Attila Lajos (who wrote his PhD thesis on Wallenberg [17]) that gave the article a rather non-neutral point of view. I hope that by posting here I can draw some attention to it so that someone might be able to give it the time it deserves. – Joke 21:58, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Still needed is an article about the History of the Jews in Wales to complete the History of the Jews in Europe. Thanks, IZAK ( talk) 12:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, there is a need for an article about the History of the Jews in Singapore. At the present time there are articles about the Chesed-El Synagogue and the Maghain Aboth Synagogue in Singapore that have some facts that may help such an article. Thanks, IZAK ( talk) 15:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Opinion of an expert needed. This persons role in Jewish history is constantly beeing censored out by certain group of hyper-patriotic users. Because this person is mentioned in Polish national anthem any different reaction would be a surprise, but nevertheless Czarniecki troops destroyed dozens of Jewish communities all over Poland and this fact is worth mentioning in Wikipedia I guess. So far Jewish encyclopedias and other sources are dismissed as WP:FRINGE and the section is being deleted. M0RD00R ( talk) 19:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't want to sound like a crank, but does anyone here watch pages? Jewish history got shredded back in October, when this edit took out over 5000 bytes. None of it ever got restored until today when I did it. It was one of those situations where three or four acts of vandalism were committed consecutively and only one got reverted. I'd be happy to join up and try to help. -- Steven J. Anderson ( talk) 11:01, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Please, somebody visit Houston Stewart Chamberlain, and look over the somewhat heated discussion on Talk: Houston Stewart Chamberlain. The article is in my belief an insidious piece of apologia/revisionism and is in desperate need of a recasting. This is a position I try to state clearly and source amply. But I am finding myself ill-equipped (emotionally) to deal with the editor who has taken it upon himself to protect it. Some of the statements that are made are pretty shocking. I am an animal ecologist - and had no idea how intense meddling with history could be! By all means leave questions/comments here or on my talk page or on the Chamberlain talk page. Thank you, Eliezg ( talk) 10:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
An odd situation has arisen in the course of adding to Category:Jewish history by country. In that parent category (part of the larger Category:Jewish history) the "Jewish histories" of any country has been categorized under "Category:Jewish country-xyz history" but Category:Jewish Saudi Arabian history has now been challenged because it contains articles about events "before" Saudi Arabia came into official existence. But my objection is, in that case, one could then exclude the facts and events of Jewish history within almost all modern countries because when Jewish history events happened in them hundreds or even thousands of years ago, the modern countries in whose territory they happened had not yet come into existence. See the discussion at Category talk:Jewish Saudi Arabian history. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 04:14, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Please have a look at League of East European States, an article which was originally titled " Judeopolonia", a term for this which is apparently mostly used in conspiracy literature. It'll be difficult to tease out the particulars of this obscure historical event, but we should be careful that popular mythologies don't adversely affect the article. Thanks.-- Pharos ( talk) 05:03, 25 December 2007 (UTC)