This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 21, 2024.
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 29#Alien Baltan
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 5#"Tiara" (Poem)
WP:UNNATURAL due the quote that hasn't been closed. The corrected versions with the closing quotes don't exist. Nickps ( talk) 22:54, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
WP:RTYPO due the unclosed quote and missing space between the parentheses. Nickps ( talk) 22:54, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
An already WP:UNNATURAL redirect with a typo. Note that the correctly spelled version ( "The Bold and the Beautiful" characters (2013)) does not (and should not) exist. Nickps ( talk) 22:46, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
WP:UNNATURAL redirect due to the quotes and capitalized disambiguator. Nickps ( talk) 22:18, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Delete due to capitalized disambiguator. Nickps ( talk) 22:13, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
all of these redirects have merit on their own and don't need the others to existso in other words the existence of other redirects is not relevant to whether they should be kept or deleted, invalidating the core point of PANDORA. Thryduulf ( talk) 22:30, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
all of these redirects have merit on their ownto make it clear I didn't create the redirects to make a point. That doesn't mean one's existence is not dependent on the others' since, if the original hadn't been created, the others wouldn't exist either because I wouldn't have made them. I provided those redirects to counter the notion that
[WP:PANDORA] presupposes, without evidence, that the existence of one redirect will result in the creation of a different redirect at some point in the futurenothing more, nothing less. The "core point of PANDORA", that unhelpful redirects warp user expectations leading to the creation of more unhelpful redirects and we should avoid that still stands.
without evidence, assumes that the presence of that other redirect will be harmful. This is only true if you don't accept the rationale behind WP:COSTLY. PANDORA redirects are harmful because of the reasons provided there, namely that they create more opportunities for similar redirects with mismatching targets, redirects pointing to the wrong target, and more opportunities for vandalism and content forks. And they do all that without any tangible benefit since they don't assist navigation. Especially in this RFD whose delete close would not be felt at all. Search will automagically take care of any queries that landed on this redirect until now. Nickps ( talk) 00:09, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
unhelpful redirects warp user expectations leading to the creation of more unhelpful redirectsyou appear to be simultaneously arguing that the redirects you created are both helpful and unhelpful, useful for navigation and not useful for navigation. You cannot use good redirects existing because of the presence of other good redirects as evidence that bad redirects lead to the creation of other bad redirects, especially when their theoretically serving as inspiration for other redirects is the only reason you can give for them being bad.
This is only true if you don't accept the rationale behind WP:COSTLY.COSTLY is an essay that gets some things objectively right, some things objectively wrong, and states some things as fact that are just opinion (some of which are widely shared, some of which are not). One that that is definitely wrong in the PANDORA section is that one redirect being good or bad is a reliable indicator that a similar redirect will be good or bad, when that is pure WP:OTHERSTUFF - redirects are judged on their own merits, not the merits of different redirects. Italia 90 is a good redirect, Italy 2026 is a very similar redirect that was deleted.
We regularly see redirects that have existed for over a decade, which are unambiguously not useful, that (as far as we can tell) have never resulted in similar redirects being created, have never resulted in POV forks or vandalism.And that's great. But regularly is far from always. Since WP:VANDAL#Redirect vandalism is policy I trust that the editors who wrote it had examples even if I don't. My inexperience/lack of knowledge shouldn't be a factor in this discussion, that's an argument from incredulity. Creating a redirect is not something an IP can do, if we do it for them, we are opening ourselves up to more vandalism opportunities.
While these comparisons are not a conclusive test, they may form part of a cogent argument; an entire comment should not be dismissed because it includes a comparative statement like this. I argue that WP:COSTLY is this argument since it demonstrates the harm that unnecessary redirects can do. I don't want to delete this redirect just because it might lead to a similar redirect's creation. I want to delete it a) per WP:COSTLY#Relevant factors #1 and #2 as I think keeping it is more trouble than it's worth and only b) per WP:PANDORA. I thought this was implied by PANDORA's "unhelpful" but I was wrong and that's on me.
One that that is definitely wrong in the PANDORA section is that one redirect being good or bad is a reliable indicator that a similar redirect will be good or bad. That is almost certainly not wrong. In some cases there is a very strong correlation of what a redirect's form is and how good it is. All of the examples in WP:PANDORA are such cases and just because, say, What is the meaning of life? exists, that doesn't mean we can't say that the probability of a question redirect being bad is almost 1 by virtue of it being a question redirect. Nickps ( talk) 02:16, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
WP:PANDORA is not a reason to remove redirectsbut in User:Lunamann/Please, put Pandora back in the box you bring up the example of Who was the 15th president of the United States? which would be deleted per WP:PANDORA! (which applies to
e.g. titles that turn articles or article subtopics into questions, like Who was the first president of the United States? or What is the capital of France?) In fact, that entire last sentence tells us to consider how the redirect interacts with the search function which in my opinion applies here since if we delete Time (Magazine) the search function will still take care of users searching it. Nickps ( talk) 16:44, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
We generally shouldn't have more redirects than neededwere correct then we would have deleted most or all {{ R from unnecessary disambiguation}}, {{ R from other disambiguation}}, {{ R from other spelling}} and {{ R from modification}} redirects. Redirects are kept based on whether they are useful, not whether they are "necessary". As explained above, WP:COSTLY is an essay that gets many things wrong, to the point that it is itself getting increasingly costly given how it is encouraging well-meaning editors to argue for the deletion of redirects that clearly benefit readers without causing any harm. Thryduulf ( talk) 21:32, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
There are no results for search of "Nangoyama Tunnel", and only one for "Tunnel Nangoyama". WP:RFD#DELETE #8 (novel term). Викидим ( talk) 20:17, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
There are two Vartius crossings in the list in the articles, none of them is referred to as Vartius–Lyttä in the text. Викидим ( talk) 20:14, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Niirala–Värtsilä
There is no mention of "Pelkola" in the article. Викидим ( talk) 20:09, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Parikkala–Syväoro
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 31#Wasp sting
Not mentioned (or rather: not mentioned anymore) at the target page. Tea2min ( talk) 10:47, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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💬 08:01, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
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talk! 07:19, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Some of the recent comments could be interpreted as support for either keep or delete. Final relist.
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talk 16:59, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 5#Template:R from subtitle
Besides being a tad bit speechless, this is a term that is (obviously) not mentioned anywhere as an alternative name, as it is (obviously) not mentioned anywhere at the target page or on Wikipedia* due to colloquiality. *Or at least, besides M Lamar but that would likely not be a great retargeting option. The plural is also located at Never Ricking Morty, with an associated wiktionary, apparently. Utopes ( talk / cont) 05:16, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
No mention of this particular crossbreed at the target article. There are a good number, but without any information about "Corgidors" in particular, I'm afraid this redirect will be of little use for people seeking information about them. Searching for corgis in general, this article does a great job, but for corgidors, Wikipedia has nothing to offer not just on this page, but there are no mentions of "Corgidors" anywhere on Wikipedia. Utopes ( talk / cont) 05:06, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
There is no mention of this particular Conan sketch at the target article (anymore), as far as I'm aware, making this an unhelpful redirect for people looking for this topic and not finding anything, especially with there no longer being an anchor to jump to. Utopes ( talk / cont) 05:02, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
I would have expected this sort of title to match targets with Communist block, although this particular one has been a redirect to urban planning related articles since 2005. To me though, with no mention of "commie block" or "communist block" at the article in question, I'm unsure if this is the most helpful target out there. Utopes ( talk / cont) 04:59, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
No mention of "Comedy" at the target article, and no mention of "numbers". At the time of it's creation, this page was a redirect to McSweeney's Books, before crossing over to avoid a double redirect. I presume that the McSweeney's Books page cropped up again in the subsequent year, as it was alive and well with plenty of time to get hit by a Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/McSweeney's Books deletion closure, which I can't see anymore as the new page only has one edit worth of history. In any case, readers searching for this particular book will likely be disappointed with the page for the publisher, only to search to no avail for the book in question. Utopes ( talk / cont) 04:55, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Comazant
This is a dog breed that was redirected at AfD and retargeted to the page it is at today, however it does not talk about anything related to cockerians. It would be very hard to do so, as this page does not mention cockeranians. As an extension, NO page on Wikipedia mentions "Cockeranians", as it doesn't appear anywhere on the site, not even List of dog crossbreeds! Currently this is not a helpful redirect for people that look up information for this specific dog breed. People that wanted information on all dog breeds would instead search for Dog breed and click on a link to Dog crossbreed instead. Utopes ( talk / cont) 04:41, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
The word "fragment" is never mentioned at the target article. Came into existence as a carbon copy of an already existing piece of content, and then redirected back into the page that it copied content from. Without a definition, and/or a use of this term anywhere at the target, this redirect leaves readers much to be desired and without an answer to the question of "what is a coastal fragment and how is it related to the page I've been taken to that doesn't discuss coastal fragments". Utopes ( talk / cont) 04:37, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Apparently tagged as R from Meme, but this topic is not currently addressed at the target of Paramount Television, nor is it addressed anywhere on Wikipedia, besides one page, being Alex Burger (screenwriter), which already has a lot of problems due to the 49 external links in that article's body. At the end of the day, with no mention at Paramount Television this redirect offers zero enlightenment to readers. Utopes ( talk / cont) 04:21, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 3#Clorinda (Once Upon a Time)
Clinistrip is not mentioned at the target article. It is only mentioned twice on Wikipedia, both times saying that it was "brand also known as Clinistix". As it so happens, "Clinistix" is also not mentioned at the target article. The only mentions of Clinistrip on all of Wikipedia are at Chemical test and Urinalysis. Clinistix is only mentioned at Urinalysis and Helen Murray Free, credited specifically with Clinistix. Utopes ( talk / cont) 04:14, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
No song called "click" is mentioned at the target article, nor anywhere in Jake Miller's onwiki discography pages, among which is Jake Miller discography, without mention there either. Utopes ( talk / cont) 04:01, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Very ironically to the previous nomination, "Chucking" nor "Browneye" are mentioned at the target article. Obviously no mention anywhere on Wikipedia for this phrase. Currently confusing without mention and unhelpful to readers as to what/why this term is what it is. Utopes ( talk / cont) 03:59, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
No mention of "Chuckie" at the target article, or a "Brown" outside of Bobby Brown. Not currently a helpful redirect due to no mention as to who this person hypothetically is. "Chuckie Brown" is not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia.
This has been a redirect here since 2004, all the while that Chucky Brown exists separately to this. Utopes ( talk / cont) 03:57, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 3#Chat Control 2.0
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Central Food Hall
No mention of a "man" at the target article, and by extension no cellarman either. Was created due to the existence of a wiktionary Wikt:cellarman page, but as this article has nothing to do with "person in charge of the alcoholic drinks", perhaps its more suitable to send this to the wiktionary page itself. Utopes ( talk / cont) 03:33, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Delete. I can find no reason for the existence of this redirect. It has no incoming links, the article doesn't use this capitalisation, it's not how the logo is styled (nor, per [8] has ever been styled). It was created without a summary as the only edit the creator made that day (and they haven't edited since 2022). I've tried looking on Google, but as that's case insensitive it's of no help at all. Thryduulf ( talk) 03:31, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
"Bound Rogue" is apparently a Beast Wars character, which is not mentioned at the target article, nor is it mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. Currently exists as a confusing, unnecessary, and unhelpful redirect. Utopes ( talk / cont) 03:25, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Bitness
This wiwwle bingus is nowt menshuned at da tawget awticul, nowr on any othew wiwibebia awticuls :(
Besides List of names for the Volkswagen Type 1 and Artista Academy, as partial title matches. Utopes ( talk / cont) 03:17, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
I can next-to-guarantee that this is not the best blond(e) joke ever, mainly because it would be present at the article, and it is not! Nothing about a "best joke ever" is at the target, which instead talks about the category of jokes as a whole, and not likely to be a plausible search term. Utopes ( talk / cont) 03:09, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Benevolent Rectangle
The word "beam" is not mentioned at the target article. Was tagged with "R from meme" during the page's February 2024 creation, but no indication of a meme is talked about at Kirby: Planet Robobot. Happens to be one letter off of Bear attack, but perhaps there's other targets? Or deletion, I think. Utopes ( talk / cont) 02:59, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Unmentioned comic strip. The two people involved, "Bea" and "Ivy", are mentioned zero and one times at the target, respectively (Ivy's only being in passing). The character "Bea" is in reference to a sister of Dennis the Menace, and because this is split between Bea and Ivy the Terrible, this appears to be an WP:XY situation during the lack of a source for the comic strip in the history, and there isn't currently a target that discusses both characters to my understanding (only two incoming links are from Bea's article, and Ivy's article). Utopes ( talk / cont) 02:57, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Antiscarp
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Androgum
This is a TV series that is not mentioned at the target list of programming, and would be unhelpful for searchers of this term to show up to a page where their initial search query has no suitable answer. Utopes ( talk / cont) 02:31, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
This is a page that went to AfD twice. It was deleted in 2022 afd, recreated, and redirected very shortly after in 2023. Neither the word "alley", nor the word "angel" appears at the target article. There is nothing about this monument at the target (no mention of "monument"), and the phrase "Alley of Angels" appears nowhere on all of Wikipedia.
There is, however, a page called Angels' Alley, and an associated Angels' Alley (disambiguation) page. Both of these are much better options than an r without mention for a title with no clear or established in-article-relationship to the war it is pointed at. Utopes ( talk / cont) 02:28, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
A more helpful redirect would be to History of Morocco. Morocco's heads of state are presently maliks, not sultans. asilvering ( talk) 01:00, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
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talk! 01:26, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#EasyEnglish
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 3#Controversy over study buddies for international students in China
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 21, 2024.
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 29#Alien Baltan
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 5#"Tiara" (Poem)
WP:UNNATURAL due the quote that hasn't been closed. The corrected versions with the closing quotes don't exist. Nickps ( talk) 22:54, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
WP:RTYPO due the unclosed quote and missing space between the parentheses. Nickps ( talk) 22:54, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
An already WP:UNNATURAL redirect with a typo. Note that the correctly spelled version ( "The Bold and the Beautiful" characters (2013)) does not (and should not) exist. Nickps ( talk) 22:46, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
WP:UNNATURAL redirect due to the quotes and capitalized disambiguator. Nickps ( talk) 22:18, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Delete due to capitalized disambiguator. Nickps ( talk) 22:13, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
all of these redirects have merit on their own and don't need the others to existso in other words the existence of other redirects is not relevant to whether they should be kept or deleted, invalidating the core point of PANDORA. Thryduulf ( talk) 22:30, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
all of these redirects have merit on their ownto make it clear I didn't create the redirects to make a point. That doesn't mean one's existence is not dependent on the others' since, if the original hadn't been created, the others wouldn't exist either because I wouldn't have made them. I provided those redirects to counter the notion that
[WP:PANDORA] presupposes, without evidence, that the existence of one redirect will result in the creation of a different redirect at some point in the futurenothing more, nothing less. The "core point of PANDORA", that unhelpful redirects warp user expectations leading to the creation of more unhelpful redirects and we should avoid that still stands.
without evidence, assumes that the presence of that other redirect will be harmful. This is only true if you don't accept the rationale behind WP:COSTLY. PANDORA redirects are harmful because of the reasons provided there, namely that they create more opportunities for similar redirects with mismatching targets, redirects pointing to the wrong target, and more opportunities for vandalism and content forks. And they do all that without any tangible benefit since they don't assist navigation. Especially in this RFD whose delete close would not be felt at all. Search will automagically take care of any queries that landed on this redirect until now. Nickps ( talk) 00:09, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
unhelpful redirects warp user expectations leading to the creation of more unhelpful redirectsyou appear to be simultaneously arguing that the redirects you created are both helpful and unhelpful, useful for navigation and not useful for navigation. You cannot use good redirects existing because of the presence of other good redirects as evidence that bad redirects lead to the creation of other bad redirects, especially when their theoretically serving as inspiration for other redirects is the only reason you can give for them being bad.
This is only true if you don't accept the rationale behind WP:COSTLY.COSTLY is an essay that gets some things objectively right, some things objectively wrong, and states some things as fact that are just opinion (some of which are widely shared, some of which are not). One that that is definitely wrong in the PANDORA section is that one redirect being good or bad is a reliable indicator that a similar redirect will be good or bad, when that is pure WP:OTHERSTUFF - redirects are judged on their own merits, not the merits of different redirects. Italia 90 is a good redirect, Italy 2026 is a very similar redirect that was deleted.
We regularly see redirects that have existed for over a decade, which are unambiguously not useful, that (as far as we can tell) have never resulted in similar redirects being created, have never resulted in POV forks or vandalism.And that's great. But regularly is far from always. Since WP:VANDAL#Redirect vandalism is policy I trust that the editors who wrote it had examples even if I don't. My inexperience/lack of knowledge shouldn't be a factor in this discussion, that's an argument from incredulity. Creating a redirect is not something an IP can do, if we do it for them, we are opening ourselves up to more vandalism opportunities.
While these comparisons are not a conclusive test, they may form part of a cogent argument; an entire comment should not be dismissed because it includes a comparative statement like this. I argue that WP:COSTLY is this argument since it demonstrates the harm that unnecessary redirects can do. I don't want to delete this redirect just because it might lead to a similar redirect's creation. I want to delete it a) per WP:COSTLY#Relevant factors #1 and #2 as I think keeping it is more trouble than it's worth and only b) per WP:PANDORA. I thought this was implied by PANDORA's "unhelpful" but I was wrong and that's on me.
One that that is definitely wrong in the PANDORA section is that one redirect being good or bad is a reliable indicator that a similar redirect will be good or bad. That is almost certainly not wrong. In some cases there is a very strong correlation of what a redirect's form is and how good it is. All of the examples in WP:PANDORA are such cases and just because, say, What is the meaning of life? exists, that doesn't mean we can't say that the probability of a question redirect being bad is almost 1 by virtue of it being a question redirect. Nickps ( talk) 02:16, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
WP:PANDORA is not a reason to remove redirectsbut in User:Lunamann/Please, put Pandora back in the box you bring up the example of Who was the 15th president of the United States? which would be deleted per WP:PANDORA! (which applies to
e.g. titles that turn articles or article subtopics into questions, like Who was the first president of the United States? or What is the capital of France?) In fact, that entire last sentence tells us to consider how the redirect interacts with the search function which in my opinion applies here since if we delete Time (Magazine) the search function will still take care of users searching it. Nickps ( talk) 16:44, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
We generally shouldn't have more redirects than neededwere correct then we would have deleted most or all {{ R from unnecessary disambiguation}}, {{ R from other disambiguation}}, {{ R from other spelling}} and {{ R from modification}} redirects. Redirects are kept based on whether they are useful, not whether they are "necessary". As explained above, WP:COSTLY is an essay that gets many things wrong, to the point that it is itself getting increasingly costly given how it is encouraging well-meaning editors to argue for the deletion of redirects that clearly benefit readers without causing any harm. Thryduulf ( talk) 21:32, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
There are no results for search of "Nangoyama Tunnel", and only one for "Tunnel Nangoyama". WP:RFD#DELETE #8 (novel term). Викидим ( talk) 20:17, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
There are two Vartius crossings in the list in the articles, none of them is referred to as Vartius–Lyttä in the text. Викидим ( talk) 20:14, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Niirala–Värtsilä
There is no mention of "Pelkola" in the article. Викидим ( talk) 20:09, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Parikkala–Syväoro
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 31#Wasp sting
Not mentioned (or rather: not mentioned anymore) at the target page. Tea2min ( talk) 10:47, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
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💬 08:01, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
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talk! 07:19, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Some of the recent comments could be interpreted as support for either keep or delete. Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,
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talk 16:59, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 5#Template:R from subtitle
Besides being a tad bit speechless, this is a term that is (obviously) not mentioned anywhere as an alternative name, as it is (obviously) not mentioned anywhere at the target page or on Wikipedia* due to colloquiality. *Or at least, besides M Lamar but that would likely not be a great retargeting option. The plural is also located at Never Ricking Morty, with an associated wiktionary, apparently. Utopes ( talk / cont) 05:16, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
No mention of this particular crossbreed at the target article. There are a good number, but without any information about "Corgidors" in particular, I'm afraid this redirect will be of little use for people seeking information about them. Searching for corgis in general, this article does a great job, but for corgidors, Wikipedia has nothing to offer not just on this page, but there are no mentions of "Corgidors" anywhere on Wikipedia. Utopes ( talk / cont) 05:06, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
There is no mention of this particular Conan sketch at the target article (anymore), as far as I'm aware, making this an unhelpful redirect for people looking for this topic and not finding anything, especially with there no longer being an anchor to jump to. Utopes ( talk / cont) 05:02, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
I would have expected this sort of title to match targets with Communist block, although this particular one has been a redirect to urban planning related articles since 2005. To me though, with no mention of "commie block" or "communist block" at the article in question, I'm unsure if this is the most helpful target out there. Utopes ( talk / cont) 04:59, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
No mention of "Comedy" at the target article, and no mention of "numbers". At the time of it's creation, this page was a redirect to McSweeney's Books, before crossing over to avoid a double redirect. I presume that the McSweeney's Books page cropped up again in the subsequent year, as it was alive and well with plenty of time to get hit by a Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/McSweeney's Books deletion closure, which I can't see anymore as the new page only has one edit worth of history. In any case, readers searching for this particular book will likely be disappointed with the page for the publisher, only to search to no avail for the book in question. Utopes ( talk / cont) 04:55, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Comazant
This is a dog breed that was redirected at AfD and retargeted to the page it is at today, however it does not talk about anything related to cockerians. It would be very hard to do so, as this page does not mention cockeranians. As an extension, NO page on Wikipedia mentions "Cockeranians", as it doesn't appear anywhere on the site, not even List of dog crossbreeds! Currently this is not a helpful redirect for people that look up information for this specific dog breed. People that wanted information on all dog breeds would instead search for Dog breed and click on a link to Dog crossbreed instead. Utopes ( talk / cont) 04:41, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
The word "fragment" is never mentioned at the target article. Came into existence as a carbon copy of an already existing piece of content, and then redirected back into the page that it copied content from. Without a definition, and/or a use of this term anywhere at the target, this redirect leaves readers much to be desired and without an answer to the question of "what is a coastal fragment and how is it related to the page I've been taken to that doesn't discuss coastal fragments". Utopes ( talk / cont) 04:37, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Apparently tagged as R from Meme, but this topic is not currently addressed at the target of Paramount Television, nor is it addressed anywhere on Wikipedia, besides one page, being Alex Burger (screenwriter), which already has a lot of problems due to the 49 external links in that article's body. At the end of the day, with no mention at Paramount Television this redirect offers zero enlightenment to readers. Utopes ( talk / cont) 04:21, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 3#Clorinda (Once Upon a Time)
Clinistrip is not mentioned at the target article. It is only mentioned twice on Wikipedia, both times saying that it was "brand also known as Clinistix". As it so happens, "Clinistix" is also not mentioned at the target article. The only mentions of Clinistrip on all of Wikipedia are at Chemical test and Urinalysis. Clinistix is only mentioned at Urinalysis and Helen Murray Free, credited specifically with Clinistix. Utopes ( talk / cont) 04:14, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
No song called "click" is mentioned at the target article, nor anywhere in Jake Miller's onwiki discography pages, among which is Jake Miller discography, without mention there either. Utopes ( talk / cont) 04:01, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Very ironically to the previous nomination, "Chucking" nor "Browneye" are mentioned at the target article. Obviously no mention anywhere on Wikipedia for this phrase. Currently confusing without mention and unhelpful to readers as to what/why this term is what it is. Utopes ( talk / cont) 03:59, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
No mention of "Chuckie" at the target article, or a "Brown" outside of Bobby Brown. Not currently a helpful redirect due to no mention as to who this person hypothetically is. "Chuckie Brown" is not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia.
This has been a redirect here since 2004, all the while that Chucky Brown exists separately to this. Utopes ( talk / cont) 03:57, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 3#Chat Control 2.0
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Central Food Hall
No mention of a "man" at the target article, and by extension no cellarman either. Was created due to the existence of a wiktionary Wikt:cellarman page, but as this article has nothing to do with "person in charge of the alcoholic drinks", perhaps its more suitable to send this to the wiktionary page itself. Utopes ( talk / cont) 03:33, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Delete. I can find no reason for the existence of this redirect. It has no incoming links, the article doesn't use this capitalisation, it's not how the logo is styled (nor, per [8] has ever been styled). It was created without a summary as the only edit the creator made that day (and they haven't edited since 2022). I've tried looking on Google, but as that's case insensitive it's of no help at all. Thryduulf ( talk) 03:31, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
"Bound Rogue" is apparently a Beast Wars character, which is not mentioned at the target article, nor is it mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. Currently exists as a confusing, unnecessary, and unhelpful redirect. Utopes ( talk / cont) 03:25, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Bitness
This wiwwle bingus is nowt menshuned at da tawget awticul, nowr on any othew wiwibebia awticuls :(
Besides List of names for the Volkswagen Type 1 and Artista Academy, as partial title matches. Utopes ( talk / cont) 03:17, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
I can next-to-guarantee that this is not the best blond(e) joke ever, mainly because it would be present at the article, and it is not! Nothing about a "best joke ever" is at the target, which instead talks about the category of jokes as a whole, and not likely to be a plausible search term. Utopes ( talk / cont) 03:09, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Benevolent Rectangle
The word "beam" is not mentioned at the target article. Was tagged with "R from meme" during the page's February 2024 creation, but no indication of a meme is talked about at Kirby: Planet Robobot. Happens to be one letter off of Bear attack, but perhaps there's other targets? Or deletion, I think. Utopes ( talk / cont) 02:59, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Unmentioned comic strip. The two people involved, "Bea" and "Ivy", are mentioned zero and one times at the target, respectively (Ivy's only being in passing). The character "Bea" is in reference to a sister of Dennis the Menace, and because this is split between Bea and Ivy the Terrible, this appears to be an WP:XY situation during the lack of a source for the comic strip in the history, and there isn't currently a target that discusses both characters to my understanding (only two incoming links are from Bea's article, and Ivy's article). Utopes ( talk / cont) 02:57, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Antiscarp
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Androgum
This is a TV series that is not mentioned at the target list of programming, and would be unhelpful for searchers of this term to show up to a page where their initial search query has no suitable answer. Utopes ( talk / cont) 02:31, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
This is a page that went to AfD twice. It was deleted in 2022 afd, recreated, and redirected very shortly after in 2023. Neither the word "alley", nor the word "angel" appears at the target article. There is nothing about this monument at the target (no mention of "monument"), and the phrase "Alley of Angels" appears nowhere on all of Wikipedia.
There is, however, a page called Angels' Alley, and an associated Angels' Alley (disambiguation) page. Both of these are much better options than an r without mention for a title with no clear or established in-article-relationship to the war it is pointed at. Utopes ( talk / cont) 02:28, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
A more helpful redirect would be to History of Morocco. Morocco's heads of state are presently maliks, not sultans. asilvering ( talk) 01:00, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
CycloneYoris
talk! 01:26, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#EasyEnglish
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 3#Controversy over study buddies for international students in China