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I've asked in a couple of different forums about this and no one has responded yet. Can someone please respond to the question about superscripts posed at wikipedia talk:How to edit a page#superscripts? The special character table shown when editing was updated (not too long ago) to include caron characters. When picked from this table, superscript 2 and superscript 3 still display the literal (unsafe) characters. I'm fairly certain these should suggest ² and ³, and I'm perfectly willing to change this myself, but can't find where to make this change (and I suspect even if I knew, I wouldn't have permission). Thanks. -- Rick Block 15:23, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
²
, etc., is fine too, but <sup>2</sup>
will tend to mess up line spacing, and should be avoided. —
Michael
Z. 2005-03-31 21:24 Zsdfkfdsi sdisdods adsiksdi dsudsudsu9dsidsidsisdui asdujdshisddsuudsusd
So, who needs to change what so that the edit window does not continue to suggest unsafe characters? -- Rick Block 00:37, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Is anyone else getting this error: The "You have new messages" bar appears at the top of every Wikipedia page regardless of whether any message there are actually new? It's been happening to me since at least this morning. -- Antaeus Feldspar 22:46, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Is there a way to perform the set intersection operation on two categories in wikipedia?
For example the page on Monkey Island is a member of the category '1990_computer_and_video_games'. It would be favourable to have such a page as a member of the categories '1990' and 'computer and video games'. The fact that the game is a video game from 1990 would be inplicit in it's membership of the two categories. If a user performs the set intersection operation on the two categories '1990' and 'computer and video games', a list of computer and video games from 1990 would be generated.
Also consider the page List_of_Irish_poets. If poets were categorised in the category 'poet', and Irish people were categories in the category 'Irish', by performing the set intersection of the categories 'poet' and 'Irish' a list of Irish poets would be dynamically generated.
Is there a way to get expanded variables in your signature? Using {{subst:NUMBEROFARTICLES}} literally puts {{subst:NUMBEROFARTICLES}} in your signature (until the next time the page is saved). -- W( t) 14:34, 2005 May 14 (UTC)
Several articles I watch have images that have apparently been deleted. Where have they gone, why have they been deleted? Is this a server problem or intentional deletions? See: John Carmack (2 missing images), Game programmer, Game programming, Gauntlet (arcade game). I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed this. TIA! — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:09, May 13, 2005 (UTC)
Following the debacle over cricket (portal), now in the Portal pseudonamespace at Portal:Cricket, there is a proposal at Wikipedia:Portalspace to add a new namespace to contain the Wikiportals, and potentially pages like the Community portal and Main Page. -- ALoan (Talk) 20:44, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
Occasionally, when typing into the edit summary field, I have inadvertantly hit the return/enter key, which causes the edits to be submitted. Frequently, this has been a real pain, since I wasn't ready to submit, I really just wanted to see a preview. Is there some way to change this behavior? I think that hitting return in the edit summary field should either do nothing, or it should cause a preview, not a submit. Anyone else have any feelings about this? func (talk) 16:25, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
It is nice to have the search facility working most (indeed seems like all of) the time. But how often is the index going to be rebuilt? Once a week or more often preferably. -- RHaworth 12:00, 2005 Apr 24 (UTC)
One problem is that there is more than one server and their indexes are not updated simultaneously. It is now over ten days since the indexes on either server were rebuilt. Could someone who knows, please state what the arrangements are for rebuilding the indexes. -- RHaworth 12:53, 2005 May 12 (UTC)
Is there a way to rename an image (like moving an article, but I'd still have to manually update the links that use it)? I uploaded an image then later discovered the only difference between the name I used and an existing image is the capitalization. (I'm not sure it's worth worrying about but I figured I'd ask). RJFJR 03:29, May 11, 2005 (UTC)
There is no reason diff pages should end up really wide with wide text: [1]. (I guess this should be a bug report?) - Omegatron 17:46, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
The page Wikipedia:Requested articles/Social Sciences and Philosophy has every category (and its content) duplicated 12 times! — Wahoofive ( talk) 16:41, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
I've been experiencing an annoying problem over the last couple of days where-by clicking "Save" results in a preview rather than a save. Often it takes two or three successive hits of "Save" to get it to actually save instead of bringing up the preview screen. At first I figured I had been hitting "Preview" by mistake, but I've confirmed that it definitely occurs even when I hit "Save".
Is this a known problem? I did a search of the archives, but found no-one else commenting on this.
Thanks, —
Asbestos |
Talk
18:27, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
(I had to press Save six times to get this to post instead of previewing)
I use Firefox as my standard browser and Wikipedia has showed up as normal until last week when the tables stopped registering. Additionally, at the end of the page it always says: "Retrieved from: http://en.wikipedia.org/etc". I purged the cache and my history and cookies and everything. I can't figure it out.
Here's are two images:
I would appreciate any help!! - Scm83x 21:17, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
I was wondering about something... why are Wikipedia article names case sensitive? Whenever two articles which differ only in capitalization exist, one is (or should be) a redirect to the other - and arguably, such redirects could double the amount of database entries (which is precisely one of the bottlenecks of Wikipedia performance). R adiant _* 12:43, May 9, 2005 (UTC)
I up loaded a 'draft version' of an image and then uploaded a final version (after it was rephoto-ed and then photoshopped). How do I get the old version at Image:PowerPack1.jpg deleted leaving just the current version? Is there page for requesting deletes of images that are duplicats/old versions? RJFJR 06:33, May 8, 2005 (UTC)
When searching for contravention I got 177 results supposedly on 9 pages but only 100 seemed to appear. Thank you, Ancheta Wis 19:39, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
Hi everyone,
I am one of the Admins of the Low Saxon Wikipedia (lang: nds). There are some technical users that are used by robots and I would like to flag these users as robots so that we can filter these in Special:RecentChanges. But unfortunately I have not found the place to configure this. How is that done?
Kind regards, Heiko Evermann 18:31, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
So, the Meta page for requesting feautures is down, I'm being told, so I will state my point here. I really believe we need an option to see, when browsing a category, ALL articles in this category AND all of its subcategories, recursively. See my post here for long motivation. Short motivation is it would make it possible and feasible to keep an eye on all articles in a certain category of interest. IMHO, the developers should turn their attention to this. Solver 13:13, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
A sanskrit transliteration problem here:
The God Śiva is fairly widely mentioned in both Hinduism-, Psychology- and Mythology-related articles. The problem is that the proper transliteration of the hindu word is Śiva, and throughout Wikipedia it is sometimes spelled Shiva and sometimes Siva, in the same articles, making it a whole mess. It would be a minor problem, but it extends to saivite / shaivite, sivaya / shivaya, saivism / shaivism, saiva / shaiva. The number of articles which mention these movements, groups, philosophies are too widespread to be corrected by a single person. Where could I post a suggestion of a standard incorporated and maintained by a bot?
Thanks! -- Subramanian 13:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Tried to add Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Spoiled_brat but not appearing on list
Wikipedia:Votes for deletion
Actually it did appear, with "not encyclopedic content". It was the formatting of your entry which was wrong. A VfD entry should contain
Your entry had left out components 1 and 3. It is now corrected. Sjakkalle 11:04, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
Recently, I decided to start using the cologne blue skin, because it takes much less time for my computer to load (even with cable!). However, the edit box is actually wider than the viewing window. Right now, I have the horizontal scrollbar a far to the right as it will go, but I still can't see past the a of horizontal, and I can't use the edit window's scrollbar, because it is also clipped off. I'm pretty sure this isn't a browser issue, because I'm running one of the newer versions of Internet Explorer. →Iñgōlemo← talk 04:09, 2005 May 5 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! →Iñgōlemo← talk 21:29, 2005 May 8 (UTC)
Update: I have discovered that you can't just adjust the width: you also have to disable the default edit box has full width option, or the width will remain constant. →Iñgōlemo← talk 22:29, 2005 May 15 (UTC)
I know it gets asked all the time, but maybe this idea's a little different. Would it be possible to move some of the server load onto user computers by adding a bunch of javascript stuff for formatting markup for headings and such, and only query the wikipedia servers when necessary? I'm thinking specifically of previews, which could be rendered just as easily by the user's computer, and the servers would just have to be polled for each link and image, rather than having to render the entire page from wiki markup each time someone pressed preview... - Omegatron 04:01, May 5, 2005 (UTC)
Is there a simple way to copy (what I will call) a Complete Template System which is used at WikiPedia, for use in another Wiki based on the MediaWiki?
In particular, I am looking at all the date/calendaring templates. The calendar "system" is full of templates, which together produce a background for dates and navigation. Some of it (the Template Collection) is the collection of BuiltUp Calendars, some of it is pages with decades, months, and years constructed.
I have wandered about, looking at the Templates, and the Templates which make up or are referenced on templates. I tried copying some to see how they work on my blank MediaWiki (installed on a WinXP with the TWS LAMP). I followed along, copying several templates as I discovered their references serially. Quickly, I realized the depth of, and number of, templates I was facing -- making the effort futile.
I want to end up with the Date/Calendar "navigation" that is present on WIkiPedia, but without the content, so that I and a Group can add articles relevent to a project.
I am aware of the full dumps, and assume there is a (painful) method for pulling out portions of the entire article database.
I was hoping, against hope, that there is simple way to snag the collection of XMLs I am looking for, and to add them into the database on my install of MediaWiki.
Ideas/Suggestions...???
With your insights, there probably is a universal utility of the Date/Calendaring system. With that probable utility, I might not be alone in seeking a means for trapping it.
The special:export [as I understand it] requires that I know all the template names, and I don't, and I don't even know how to identify and assemble the names, other than by brute force [. . . part of the futility of the early effort!]. Even if I could identify all of them, and recover the XML produced, I have no idea what to do with the entries, other than that they belong in the database, on the appropriate tables, properly normalized and indexed. If someone has an idea how to assemble the template names, that would be a good first step. Then, I might know what questions to ask, next. JohnRuskin 02:10, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
When you click "Categories:" in any category footer, you are taken here, which is the first of many, many pages of categories. The only text at the top is ungrammatical:
I would have edited this text myself, but the page is locked. I think the minimum acceptable change is:
And better would be if an actual, "live" number, were included in the sentence instead of saying "many thousands".
I also recommend that clicking "Categories" in any category footer takes you to Lists of articles by category, as the current link really is extremely useless. Tempshill 16:40, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
I was looking through the IP blocklist. For users that are autoblocked, I noticed what I thought was an extra pair of quotes, until I copied-and-pasted it here. It looks like the reason for the original block is inserted inside three apostrophes, which I assume was to intend to bold the reason. It doesn't appear this is happening; it appears as below:
Anyone know why this is? — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:17, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
It comes from the edit summary, which doesn't do markup translation. Same thing shows up on Recent Changes. RickK 66.60.159.190 17:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
I've noted an intermittent glitch in IE6 (which cropped up at about the same time as the first line bug noted above). Sometimes the category box that should appear at the bottom of the page is displayed on top of the text higher up. It's not free-floating and can't be dragged back into position, but hitting Refresh usually cures it. Lee M 01:13, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
See [5] for an example. The "Computer Terminology" category has about 480 links in it. When you look at each page, you can look at the "next 200" or "previous 200" links, which is great, but each page then claims "This category has 99 articles in it" or similar, when it should say "475". Tempshill 21:16, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
What's the deal with the auto-logout? It seems to log me out automatically after a ridiculously short period of time. Of course, no "logging out" notice is given, and the preloaded pages show that I'm still logged in... adding to the deception. Then I go to make an edit, and suddenly I'm editing under a random IP address.
What can I do to stop this stupid auto-logout? Set a page to auto-refresh every ten minutes?
- Pioneer-12 16:22, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
Ah, I thought checking that box was supposed to remember your password but was broken....
Hey, I was right!
WTF. Nice misleading name and help file there. OK, now THAT is officially a candidate for the Hall of Shame.
- Pioneer-12 10:45, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
Hmmmm.... Perhaps you are assuming a meaning instead of reading what it actually says?
Lets start with the check box itself. It just says "Remember me". Remember me?! What the hell is "Remember me" supposed to mean? An extremely ambiguous statement. Remember me could mean any number of things. Remember me how? Remember my name? Remember my password? Remember that I'm logged in? Remember that I logged in from this IP?
Now to figure out what this box is supposed to do, lets see what the "help text" says. It starts: "If you click the check box Remember me, formerly Remember my password across sessions..."
So, the check box was formerly "Remember my password across sessions". This information is also ambiguous. It is ambiguous because this statement could mean "formerly called" (thus indicating a simple change of name) or "formerly was" (indicating a change of state). If formerly called, then the check box is "Remember my password across sessions" by another name. If there was a change of state, it was from "Remember my password across sessions" (A name which says what is being remembered: a password) to "Remember me" (A name which could mean any number of things). So, at this point, we don't know exactly what "Remember me" is, but we know it's former name and/or state involved remembering a password. Remember me might be the same as "remembering my password" or it might be somewhat different.
Let alone the fact that "sessions" is also ambiguous... if could refer to "Wikipedia sessions", that is, different instances of being logged on to Wikipedia; it could refer to "browser sessions", that is, in between different sessions of running an instance of a web browser; or, very rarely, it could refer to "network sessions", that is, a type of connection in a networking protocol. (But why would any user care about network sessions?) Lets read on...
Then the text says "...you will not have to give your password again when you access Wikipedia from the same computer". How is that possible? So the next time I logon I won't have to type in my password? The only way that is possible is if it had saved the password and had it pretyped in when I go to the login page. This situation is consistent with "Remember my password across sessions". So thus the new reader will think that "remember me" means "Remember my password across sessions", aka "Remember my password between Wikipedia sessions".
It doesn't. That is simply false. I logoff and go to logon again from the same computer... and I have to type my password again! I am accessing Wikipedia from the same computer and I have to give my password again. So the help is not just misleading, it is false, untrue, bogus.
From empirical evidence it seems as if "Remember my password between sessions" is trying to refer to "network sessions". Which would explain the senseless auto-logoffs. Which puts an even bigger question forth.... WHO CARES. Why would I NOT want it to remember my password across network sessions? Why does this check box even exist? Why doesn't it just remember the IP address like every other website? (Or at least remember it long enough so I'm not logged off for no apparent reason... or if I am logged off, at least make it clear that I am logged off, perhaps by changing the area around the "save page" button. A ubiquitous line in the top corner that is scrolled off the screen half the time doesn't count.) Who designs this stupid non-IP setup and then puts it as the default?
The check box needs to be changed to an unambiguous, truthful, and non-technical wording, such as "Stay logged on between browser sessions", and the help text needs to be updated to a similar truthful meaning. The help text should also explain what is happening when you use this option: "This will send a cookie to your web browser. As long as this cookie is kept unmodified, you will appear as logged in whenever you access Wikipedia. If this cookie is deleted (for example, by deleting all cookies in your browser's cache), you will have to log in again. Logging out also removes the cookie."
As it is, expecting the reader to assume that "sessions" refers to "network sessions" is ridiculous. 99% of the population doesn't even know what a network session is. And half the people that do know aren't going to care, anyway.
- Pioneer-12 11:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
p.s. (Wow, that wound up taking a big chunk of text to explain fully. Ambiguity is a bitch.)
Pioneer-12 asks:
The kind of session isn't a network session strictly speaking, it's an HTTP session, managed by PHP's session handling functions. This kind of session works by setting a cookie, just like the "remember password" feature. The difference is that the session cookie has the "discard" attribute set, which means that it is discarded when you close your browser. This is done to prevent others from using your account after you have left the computer.
The other difference is that PHP sessions store the user ID and other such information on the server side. Only a "session key" is sent to the user. The remember password feature stores all required authentication information in the cookie itself. On our servers, the session information is stored in the notoriously unreliable memcached system. Session information may occasionally be lost or go missing temporarily, causing users to be logged out. The simplest workaround for this is to use the remember password feature, as long as you are not worried about other people using the same computer.
Websites cannot and do not use IP addresses as a session key, since many users may share the same IP address, and one user may have many IP addresses. Some sites use IP addresses in addition to cookies, for extra security, but this requires the server to have an exhaustive list of load-balancing proxy groups, or at least a list of organisational subnets. -- Tim Starling 05:13, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
The check box needs to be changed to an unambiguous, truthful, and non-technical wording, such as "Stay logged on between browser sessions"... -- You are too smart. Look at it from the dummy's viewpoint. "Remember me" is fine. It works the way a dummy expects it to work. Hey, I'm a real dummy, and it even works the way I expect. — Xiong 熊 talk * 02:05, 2005 May 7 (UTC)
I am currently developing (actually, I just started) a bot to make Image Tagging alot more efficient. What it would do is that it would tag all untagged images with {{No source}}, and thus put it in the Category:Images with unknown source. It would also do a few other things to simplify image tagging, looking up keywords such as "GFDL" or "Public Domain" etc and then ask me if it could tag if with the corresponding tag. It would also automatically drop a message to the uploading users talk page asking them to tag the image. This would have a few benefits:
However, I have realised that when you look at a category of images (such as Category:Images with unknown source) it displays all the images in it. Is there some way to make the category just display links to the images? And another thing, is using categories for this kosher? Would it be a tremendous server-hog? It seems to work fine for stub-sorting though..... Any help or suggestions/ideas are welcome. Gkhan 18:46, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)
Final two days of the vote on Wikipedia:Template standardisation. Ends 23:59 on 01MAY05. Noisy | Talk 12:32, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)
Can someone tell me why links pages like this one, are parly in alphabetical order and partly in what seems to be a random order? Adam 08:41, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I see that in category pages such as U.S. film directors, the people are organized by last name. I just added a stub for Jonathan Caouette, and he is indexed under J. How do I tell Wikipedia to index him under C instead? (And I don't just want it done, I'd like to know how :-). Thanks. Luqui 22:42, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)
Hmm, also, how do I link to a category page without adding the current page to the category? Luqui 22:45, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)
Look at my first three edits on April 29 on [8]. I clicked the section edit links and voted on all three. The first edit put in my vote for one. The second edit put another vote in, but deleted my first vote. Same for the third one - it deleted my second vote. I got no edit conflict warning. This has been happening frequently on the user space proposals vote. -- SPUI ( talk) 09:58, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I remember at one time that a printer friendly option was available. What happened to that?
Megan
I know its possible to get an RSS feed of the newpages and event the recent changes at
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:Newpages&feed=rss http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:Recentchanges&feed=rss
respectively. However what would be most useful to me and I'm sure a lot of other wikipedians would be an RSS feed of my watchlist. This would save me having to keep checking the actual watchlist page and hopefully let the user correct vandalism faster if they were to be notified of changes when they happen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:Watchlist&feed=rss
currently does not do anything, sorry i'm not too familiar with the technical issues surrounding this, but if its possible for the newpages and recentchanges, would it be possible to implement it for the watchlist. Thanks-- Pluke 23:29, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I have been working extensively on Wikipedia for three months now, but this is something completely new. It has occured on WikiCommons before. The first line, that contains:
"User name|my talk|preferences|my watchlist|my contributions|log out"
is generally positioned on the right. However, when I put a mouse cursor over it, it moves on the left over the Wikipedia logo. Why is that? What can I do about this? I'm using IE 6.0 with Widows XP. -- Eleassar777 17:42, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Now it's all right - it just disappeared by itself. Thanks. -- Eleassar777 20:07, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Sections moved to Wikipedia:Content labeling proposal. -- Rick Block 19:49, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
I've downloaded the Mediawiki (1.4.2) and set up a web server and everything on my localhost. As you know, with Wiki can you edit documents/articles, etc. What I want to be able to do is restrict access on a per document/page basis, i.e. for this page, I only want to allow this user and this user (or groups) to be able to edit or make changes to that pag. I assume there is a way to do this, since the real wikipedia.org site implements this in a sense (has types of users like admin, developer, anonymous user, etc.). Can someone help me out? Thanks!
This is a question about a technique that is being used in Template:Election box.
The template makes use of two pieces of data about a political party, it's name and it's identifying colour. These are derived via the name of the article that describes the political party. The article name is passed as an argument to the template, the template has to get the name and colour.
Currently this is done by referencing a page using {{ :{{{articleName}}}/meta/color}}. Which will, for example, resolve to {{:Labour Party (UK)/meta/color}} which in turn resolves to #CC0000.
I have two questions here:
80N 23:32, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
I'm thinking about creating a template for some election results, but it requires a variable number of rows. I have figured out one way of doing it, which is to use a combination of three templates like this:
{{ResultHeader}} {{ResultRow| | colour = Conservative | candidate = Andrew Turner | party = [[Conservative Party (UK)|Conservative]] | vote = 25,223 | percentage = 39.73% }} {{ResultRow| | colour = Liberal | candidate = Peter Brand | party = [[Liberal Democrats (UK)|Liberal Democrats]] | vote = 22,397 | percentage = 35.28% }} ... {{ResultFooter}}
This would create a table that might look like this (which came from here):
Party | Candidate | Votes | Percentage Vote Share | |
---|---|---|---|---|
Conservatives | Andrew Turner | 25,223 | 39.73% | |
Liberal Democrats | Peter Brand | 22,397 | 35.28% | |
Labour | Deborah Gardiner | 9,676 | 15.24% |
Which was actually created using the following source:
{| {{prettytable}} |-style="background-color:#E9E9E9" !colspan="2"|Party !Candidate !Votes !Percentage Vote Share |- | {{party color cell|Conservative Party (UK)}} |[[Conservative Party (UK)|Conservatives]] |[[Andrew Turner]] |25,223 |39.73% |- ...
The purpose is to provide an elegant display of tabular data but using a mechanism that is easier than copying a table that is rich in formatting. It will also provide a more consistent presentation of information across (potentially) about 650 articles.
My questions for this forum are:
80N 08:21, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)
Suddenly I can't read the tab-labels on pages ("discussion", "edit this page", "history", "watch" etc) while using the default skin in mozilla. When I hover over the blank labels the text comes back, but clicking on them doesn't work. It might be some javascript/dyn-html-stuff that changed. I don't know. It looks like something I've seen on other sites that aren't mozilla compliant. Mozilla 1.4.2. Anyone know anything about this? Shanes 02:49, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) (using the Classic skin, and it sucks)
I have a few subpages of my user page that have their own talk pages — e.g., User talk:Dcljr/Characters. Will I get a "You have new messages" alert when someone posts to such a subpage? I haven't noticed yet whether I do or not... - dcljr 23:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The table format in Code page 437 got completely messed up. As the article itself did not change, one can conclude that the mess is produced by recent changes in Wikipedia engine. — Monedula 07:00, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The problem is connected with �
or �
getting into the wiki text. Seemingly �
gets treated as "end of string", and everything after it is ignored. —
Monedula 08:59, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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I'm having a bit of difficulty getting Syriac script to display in the right direction, right to left. I thought it was something to do with my browser, but other users have spotted it. Exhibit A is Assyrian Neo-Aramaic, where the two examples of Syriac script in the infobox are written backwards. Exhibit B is Aramaic language, where the Syriac in the infobox displays correctly. I realise that entering the code backwards is not the answer. What is? -- Gareth Hughes 10:46, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm using Firefox; I don't know what other users have that produces the same problem. Do both examples of Syriac display rtl? -- Gareth Hughes 11:31, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I was wondering.... Does the wiki software (a) simply save the content of each edit individually, or does (b) it save edits line by line, which are compaired to previously existing lines--with new lines being added to the database only if different then any previously existing line.
The differences in storage requirements between these methods are enormous. Lets say someone blanks a page and then restores it. Using method a, the entire page is now saved into the database twice. Using method b, only a few bytes are added to indicate the readdition of lines already existing in the database.
Of course there are other possible storage methods and variants, but the question is: does the software use a system similar to a or similar to b? - Pioneer-12 10:36, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm not technical nor I think alone in combating "appeasement" revisionism in the Wikipedia and it occurs to me that protecting pages as a whole ,rather than by sections , prevents their correct evolution . Edit wars are so tiresome and time-consuming that an editor will quickly withdraw or as may prove necessary, simply concentrate on the censoring facilitation of the Wikipedia. If the page protection passwords could relate to sections within articles perhaps the conflicting sides of historical viewpoint (or indeed revisionism) could be included in parallel . As can be seen in the China-Japan dispute today , this revisionism is a live and ongoing reality . In the wikipedia it is equally live . Flamekeeper 09:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC) Perhaps to solve the revert wars I should just add a parallel page - build an alternative wikipedia within the wikipedia. I don't suppose Policy would favour that . Flamekeeper 09:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I've noticed that the Ossetian interwiki (os.wikipedia.org) link in the Tbilisi article does not work. shows up attached to the Tbilisi Metro link, as an "edit" link to an article ostensibly named Os:калак. The link is there, and the article is there http://os.wikipedia.org/wiki/Калак, but there appears to be a prollem getting from one to the other. (It's rendering this way in FFox, N7 and MSIE6.) Tomer TALK 02:06, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)
Most articles have a tab labelled 'Edit this page'. Occasionally I see the label as just 'Edit'. Does anybody know why that is? Of course, now I look for one, I can't find an example. Bobblewik (talk) 17:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
It says "edit this page" right now! (And it said edit before.) Oooh, naughty developer! Naughty naughty! - Pioneer-12 10:59, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
p.s. How is this amusing? Perhaps if the labels were changed to Esperanto or something....
p.p.s. Perhaps this is a battle between clarity and brevity?
p.p.p.s. I think the tab should say "Edit THIS".
Right. Problem 1. I have lost the page history for Lancaster. A resident of Lancaster california took offence to the fact that the original had precedence over his and cut and paste moved the page. I didn't realise this, tried to fix it by moving the pending deletion version back, but now it's all gone wrong and I'm not sure what I've done.
See talk:Lancaster/cutnpaste, talk:Lancaster/pending deletion.
Also, why is my talk page displaying a version from several months ago, but not the TOC? Confused and frustrated. Dunc| ☺ 14:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Template talk:Spoiler is somehow messed up in a way that prevents editing a single section in (roughly) the second half of the page. And it's too big to edit the whole page sanely over my connection. And I have a comment I want to make in the last section, dammit.
Could someone see if they can fix this? -- Jmabel | Talk 05:27, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
An example of this is the article about the Electromagnetic spectrum. I'd like to print it out accompanied by the articles about Radio waves, Microwave, Infrared, Optical spectrum, Ultraviolet, X-ray and Gamma ray. As that would form a good booklet or introduction to these subjects.
I did something like that with the subject Color, and printed out a 44 pages booklet about Colors. What a magnificent booklet it is! :)
I must sound a big geeky, but really, it seems like good functionality. If only HTML could do page numbers and TOCs with page numbering. I guess I'll have to do that with Write or Word or whatever.
Cheers, Erlend B.M.
Hello friends,
I'd like to concatenate multiple arcticles into a bigger article, something like the export-feature does now, but exporting to HTML.
I reckon I would be able to do this same thing by saving multiple articles, and cat them together. But it would be much smoother if wikipedia would offer this kind of functionality also for users who aren't technically skilled.
An example of this is the article about the Electromagnetic spectrum. I'd like to print it out accompanied by the articles about Radio waves, Microwave, Infrared, Optical spectrum, Ultraviolet, X-ray and Gamma ray. As that would form a good booklet or introduction to these subjects.
I did something like that with the subject Color, and printed out a 44 pages booklet about Colors. What a magnificent booklet it is! :)
I must sound a big geeky, but really, it seems like good functionality. If only HTML could do page numbers and TOCs with page numbering. I guess I'll have to do that with Write or Word or whatever.
Cheers, Erlend B.M.
My experimental template Template:mn seems to eat section breaks. If you look at Time-division multiplexing in edit mode you can see a section break like
==Transmission using Time Division Multiplexing (TDM)==
but, at least for me, it isn't visible. when I view the article normally. Any idea? I've also tried it in a local install of MediaWiki 1.4beta6 and everything seems to work fine (even with the same article text and same template!) Mozzerati 06:49, 2005 Apr 14 (UTC)
I've fixed several instances of massive duplication in articles in the past few days (most recently WP:HD which was duplicated twice, e.g. 4 times its normal size!). I've occasionally seen this in the past, but it seems to be happening much more often now. Anyone else noticing this? Perhaps a bug, or is there some user action that might be causing this? Other affected articles I've seen include Denver, Colorado, List of Celtic mythological beings, and WP:CFD. -- Rick Block 03:03, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I've just spotted this discussion and thougt you might be interested in an occurence that happened to me a couple of days ago on the Wikipedia:Wikistory page. This page is in three sections: the introductory one without a section header, the story, and a 'see also' section. I made an edit to the story section, but got an error when I submited (I don't remember if it was the "sorry the server didn't return a response see OpenFacts" or the "MySQL error in NumRows" one) and so refreshed the page. It appears the first edit actually took. [11]. The second edit caused an edit conflict with myself - and so I readded my edit (in this case [[Singapore]]) which had apparently been lost. What I didn't spot was that it also duplicated the two sections that I didn't edit [12]. I noticed this when the page displayed and removed it in my next edit [13]. Thryduulf 13:56, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
It might not be a truly new phenomenon either, as I've just stumbled accross this occurance [15] from 21 December 2004 at Talk:Hooliganism. Thryduulf 21:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm trying to create the article USS Galena, and I get the following dump:
Error in numRows(): Duplicate entry '0-USS_Galena' for key 2 Backtrace:
GlobalFunctions.php line 510 calls wfbacktrace() Database.php line 528 calls wfdebugdiebacktrace() Database.php line 717 calls databasemysql::numrows() MessageCache.php line 307 calls databasemysql::selectrow() MessageCache.php line 249 calls messagecache::getfromcache() GlobalFunctions.php line 432 calls messagecache::get() GlobalFunctions.php line 341 calls wfmsgreal() OutputPage.php line 620 calls wfmsg() Database.php line 386 calls outputpage::databaseerror() Database.php line 333 calls databasemysql::reportqueryerror() Database.php line 911 calls databasemysql::query() Article.php line 884 calls databasemysql::insert() EditPage.php line 239 calls article::insertnewarticle() EditPage.php line 68 calls editpage::editform() EditPage.php line 164 calls editpage::edit() index.php line 176 calls editpage::submit()
Okay, have a look at the page history for the article Rameen, and specifically the difference between my edit and the last: [16] All I did was embolden the title and add {{stub}} at the bottom, and the nonsense wasn't there. Somehow a previous revision has been deleted. Granted, this isn't a major problem, but still... — Wereon 19:57, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
Take a look at Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Uploading Law and Order orchestral sting. In the previous section there is a left aligned picture, which is causing the question and first paragraph of my answer in that section to be displayed at the same level of indentation. If you look at the code, all the paragraphs of my reply are indented one level (:text), but this is only shown where it is indented from the left margin, rather than the picture (at least in Firefox 1.04 on Windows 2000 at 1280x1024 resolution when using the monobook skin). Imho, the text should be indented no matter what it is indented from - I presume this is a CSS issue? Thryduulf 14:30, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
I had two problems yesterday. An anon user edited one of the articles on my watchlist, deleted a section, and added a single sentence. I fixed the problem, and as I normally would, checked the rest of the anon's contributions. In each case where s/he added information, a section was deleted, so I attempted to fix those as well. I copied the anon's addition, went to an earlier revision (with the deleted sections intact), pasted in his addition, and saved. I did not encounter any edit conflicts.
Although you can see the anon's edits in diffs from his contributions page, they have disappeared from the individual page histories ( Amanda De Cadenet, Schapelle Corby, Hoboken, New Jersey) -- there are no edits listed for User:67.81.177.1. I suspect that his edits have been attributed to someone else, as my edits to correct the problems appear to have been attributed to other users ( Xezbeth, on the Hoboken page). And apparently, my name (which should have been attached to the fix) has been attached to other edits entirely, resulting in two other editors leaving irate messages on my talk page about my changes.
I know there have been server problems the last few days, especially in lag between master/slave updates, and I expect things will improve soon, but I'd like to know if there has been any lasting corruption of the edit histories; I would not like to have someone else's edits attached to my name. If the problem is widespread, it could also cause serious problems for processes like RfC, RfAr, and so on that rely on diffs and page histories for the untangling of user disputes.
Has anyone else seen this problem? — Catherine\ talk 21:42, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
Is there any way to redirect to a subtopic headline? For instance, Kojima Productions is put in the Hideo Kojima article, and whenever I internally link to it, I use [[Hideo Kojima#Kojima Productions|Kojima Productions]]. However, if someone else uses an internal link by just typing [[Kojima Productions]], it will go somewhere else.
If you could do something like #REDIRECT [[Hideo Kojima#Kojima Productions]], that would be helpful.
...so I made these two new categories, "Canada buildings and structures stubs" and "Asia buildings and structures stubs", and wanted them to appear in the parent category "Buildings and structures stubs". I added the category link to the bottom of the editing in the usual way, [[Category:Buildings and structures stubs|Canada]], and the same for Asia (only with Asia instead of Canada, of course, and go back to the parent category... where both my new categories are indexed under S (presumably for Saskatchewan and Sri Lanka respectively). What gives? Grutness... wha? 13:42, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
I've noticed that with Template:Ref, when printing the note it adds the external URL to the end of the footnote. This is unnecessary. Does anyone know if there is a style we could use to suppress the URL being appended to an external link so we could apply this to that template? - Ta bu shi da yu 03:36, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Of course you can. The HTML is generated server-side, but the CSS is interpreted at the client. Just add the following to your monobook.css:
@media print { sup.plainlinks .urlexpansion { display:none ! important } }
This will omit all URL expansions in print output, but only within the <sup> tags created by the {{ref}} templates. Lupo 07:49, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
If a person wants to create a nonsense/vanity article without being quickly spotted on the New Page Patrol isn't it just to create first an irrelevant redirect, then convert the redirect into a nonsense/vanity article. Redirects don't turn up on Special:Newpages, nor do articles created from redirects. Sure these things will pop up on Special:Recentchanges but if it survives for about five minutes it will have slipped through most fingers until somebody stumbles upon it which can take a very long time.
I am posting this method here, not to encourage people to actually use it as a way of creating vanity articles without seeing them listed on VfD, but I want to ask: Is there any good way to detect this, and is it possible to modify the Newpages page to detect articles being created out from redirects? Sjakkalle 06:56, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
What does the 'k' mean in search results? For example, if I put 'global dimming' in the search field and press the 'Search' button, the first result shows:
Relevancy: 100.0% - 8.8k (1321 words)
I see 8.8k. I know that 'k' for kilo means '1000', but one thousand what? Bobblewik (talk) 00:51, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
i have changed the default for this from "k" to "KB" which is hopefully more clear. if anyone has a better suggestion, you can create/edit MediaWiki:Searchsize, which would look something like:
$1KB ($2 words)
and put whatever there. — kate
I've noticed that right aligned graphics don't seem to be placed correctly. I use Firefox 1.0.4. You can see an example here: Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Star_Wars in the "Star Wars News" section, the graphic overlaps the text on the top side. Similarly, here: Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Biography in the "featured article" area where the Isaac Asimov article currently is, the graphic overlaps text on the top side.
Is this a known issue? Or is this something new? -- Wolf530 04:48, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
Are there any plans to let us make the Random Page button have further options, such as filtering to
-- Nova Cygni 20:30, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
I am wondering how the special utility pages, such as Special:Uncategorizedpages, Special:Ancientpages, and Special:Shortpages, get updated. Currently it has been several weeks since they were updated and almost everything listed on these pages has been dealt with. Is the updating on an automatic schedule? If so what interval is it set to? Or are they only refreshed when a developer gets around to it? For a period a few months ago the pages were being updated once every 24 hours, which was extremely useful. How big is the downside to this? How big a problem would updating these pages once a week be? Could the fast moving ones, like Shortpages and Uncategorizedpages, be set to update more often than the comparatively slow moving ones, like Wantedpages and Deadendpages? - SimonP 02:53, May 21, 2005 (UTC)
I made a fairly big edit on an article (added a couple of sections, cleaned up the text, added an image) and followed it up with a minor edit (changed a couple of words). The first edit doesn't show up in the history, but my minor edit shows up with both changes in the diff. Because my minor edit summary is something like "Cleaned up the text a little bit", I am understandably a bit concerned. Is this a problem with the database servers that will fix itself over time? Thanks, Death phoenix 16:53, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
I have had experience of the first one (entries are temporarily omitted from the history list). There is also a third problem. When the page Strategic bombing during World War II was moved it lost its history see Talk. I think it happened to another page I was monitoring (unfortunately I have forgotten which one), when it was moved twice in quick succession (eg due to a typo in the first move). Perhaps it too is a bug caused by master slave caching problems. Philip Baird Shearer 12:47, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
OK, on the page film distributors, there is some introductory text at the top and then a list of 7 companies under the heading "Articles..." There is no separate edit attached to the list, just edit this page at the top. But when I click on edit this page, all I get is the text from the top. So, how do I add companies to the distributors' list? Why is this locked?
Whoa - I just clicked Show preview, and film distributors is all in red? Why? Go to the main page and choose Culture, then choose Cinema, and you'll see there *is* an article active and headed film distributors. Why doesn't my URL connect to that? Also, I did something when I found that, and somehow ended up with a blue film distributor (single, not plural), and this is a whole different page with a whole different definition of the same thing. Same goes for Culture and Cinema. What's the deal here - I'm on the same site, but getting sent different places for the same topic...
Also, how do you change an incorrect article header once it's left "red" status and gone "blue"? On the same page, if I want to change 20th Century Fox to the correct Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corp., how do I do it? If I go to the 20th Century Fox page and choose edit this page, I can edit the text but not the title. On other pages where there *is* an [edit] option for specific Article titles, I can change the title on the list but then it goes to "red" and the link to the article is broken rather than having the correction made. So, what to do here??
Oh, and, PS - How come the *latest* post sinks to the *bottom* of the thread list? I've never seen that on a website before.
Carbuncle 19May05 ++++
Thanks. The site seems to be more complex than I thought at first glance, or at any rate the editing process is. Your citations demonstrate that, but also clarify what I've been running into and how to deal with them. Will get back if I hit another wall.
---buncle, a couple hours later.
Can this be fixed ? There are two Category:Philippine writers The other one is accessible from the redirect of List of Philippine Writers. Please merge. Thanks.-- Jondel 06:44, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
I've created a template for use with Template:Infobox Company. My template, Template:Revenue generates a specific agreed upon format, for usage see Template talk:Revenue. My question is whether a template being passed as a parameter to another template would be too large a load for the servers? Is this technically too taxing? — oo64eva (Alex) ( U | T | C) @ 17:51, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
I've been looking for a way of dynamically retrieving a wikipedia article as an HTML fragment, so that it might be included, say, in a web page.
This seems a rather obvious need - any web site quoting a wikipedia article must do this somehow! Having conducted a reasonably wide search I have found that by using the "export" special page, wikipedia will produce an article in raw output format, wrapped in XML; but there are only a few scripts (php mainly) to convert wiki format to HTML.
So does anyone know of other ways this can be done, or is there something obvious I have missed? Something like an xsl stylesheet to transform the export XML, a vi/vim/sed script or a general algorithm would be really useful... allegedly.
Cheers
Raad--
131.111.21.21
11:43, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
The Template:Otheruses is incompatible with the "disambiguated primary topic" disambiguation style that has recently found its way into Wikipedia:Disambiguation. I recognize that it is incumbent upon those who opt for this disambiguation style to go and fix all of the erroneous links that it creates, but in many cases (i.e. Analog), these links number in the hundreds and take a very long time to sift through. -- Smack ( talk) 20:48, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
I think wrong title problem has a very simple fix. Instead of telling human readers what the title is supposed to read, you can let the Mediawiki to serve the correct title instead.
For example, if Mediawiki sees the wrongtitle template such as {{wrongtitle|title=C++}}, it simply exports: <h1 class="pagetitle">C++</h1>. If it sees {{wrongtitle|title=Chu nôm}}, it shall export: <h1 class="pagetitle">Chu nôm</h1>.
If there's a wrongtitle template, instead of going to the Server Side Includes program, you can simply assign the title variable to the value of {{{title}}}. I don't think it is impossible, isn't it? -- Toytoy 01:46, May 18, 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone know of an easy way (tool, script etc) that I can get a list of all articles in a category, including its subcategories (and, recursively, their subcategories etc)? — Matt Crypto 13:22, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
Analogous with http://www.wikipedia.org , we should make some permanent PR for the Wikimania conference on the front page from now on until the conference, which will secure more publicity. Alternatively, we could also use MediaWiki:Sitenotice like this
The first International Wikimedia Conference will take place in Frankfurt 4.- 8 August!
[[Image:Wikimania-468x60-en.png|100px]] The first '''[http://www.wikimania.org International Wikimedia Conference]''' will take place in [[Frankfurt]] [[August 4|4.]]-[[August 8|8 August]]!
For some unknown reason, when using Internet Explorer for visiting Wikipedia, another font is displayed instead of the usual (in my case, at least) "Trebuchet MS". IE is somehow mapping Wikipedia's specified font to some other one which so far I have been unable to identify (a narrow, tall font with no serifs, that is also very difficult to read). The task of identifying the font is further complicated by the fact that when printing or converting the page to a PDF (PDF stores the names of the font outlines it uses), the font is changed once again.
A sample of the font that is being shown:
File:Narrow-sample.gif
Does anyone know what could be causing this issue? Thank you in advance for your help.
Mfolozi
02:15, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
10qwerty
17:26, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Apparently, Nauseam moved Nintendo to Nintendo Company Ltd., but for some reason it ended up at Nintendo Co. Ltd.. I moved Nintendo Co. Ltd. back to Nintendo. Now, the articles content is at Nintendo but its only history is "Nintendo moved to Nintendo Company Ltd." by Nauseam. Nintendo Company Ltd.'s history is "Nintendo Company Ltd. moved to Nintendo" also by Nauseam. Nintendo Co. Ltd.'s history is "Nintendo Co. Ltd. moved to Nintendo" by me. No history of the actual article. wtf? ✏ OvenFresh ² 02:00, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
I try to add this image from the commons to Pavlov's House, but keep on getting errors presumably due to the russian language image name. Any suggestions? Should i rename the image? -- Chris 73 Talk 21:13, May 15, 2005 (UTC)
I have a strange problem, several articles does not load in Firefox, but they load in IE. I rund MS Windows XP professional, 512 MB RAM on a laptop. Have tried to shut down the PC but the problem is still there. The articles I have problems with are Rail transport in Norway and Aung San, the Burmese freedom fighter. Have used Wikipedia for almost a year and has not seen something like this before. Anyone having a clue? Ulflarsen 13:44, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
On the above history page, if one scrolls down to the very bottom, look at the IP address. What's wrong with it?-- 217.137.90.125 06:49, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#page not updating. I can see that the edit is in the history, but it does not show up on the page, and a "null" edit does not fix it. Any developers about? -- Rick Block 03:04, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
I've been using pipes to coerce the sorting of certain articles on their category pages. However, first noticed this evening, if I add a pipe to an existing categorization nothing changes on the category page. Articles newly added to the category do show up and are sorted as expected. What gives? — B.Bryant 09:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, but I couldn't figure out where I should send this information. You have a section on Decision Tables and you are kind enough to have a link at the end to an old web site of mine, www.logic-gem.com and a page at that site. That domain is now pointing to my current company as we are preparing to release a Windows version of LogicGem, our automated Decision Table processor. At the present time a preview version of the product is available along with the information you are referrng to. You might want to check out:
http://www.catalyst.com/products/logicgem/index.html
Thank you,
Cary Harwin President/CEO Catalyst Development Corporation cary@catalyst.com
I love Wikipedia and use it very frequently. However, it does not work well on my Treo 650 PDA's Blazer browser. I have tried turning off image loading on the browser, but it still does not look very good. Are there any plans to create a text-only version or a PDA version of wikipedia?
Hi, you might visit my website, Qwikly. -- Alterego
I cannot delete articles from my watchlist using the "display and edit the complete list" page. The attempt repeatedly times out with the "wikimedia web server didn't return any response to your request" error. Using the "watch" and "unwatch" links on articles works fine. – Smyth\ talk 11:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This now works, except that when the new watchlist comes up, the header looks like this:
Removing requested items from watchlist... (License plates in the US and Canada) (Mother) (Vehicle excise duty)done. You have 50 pages on your watchlist (not counting talk pages); you can display and edit the complete list.
Apart from the bad formatting, the article count is out of date. It should say 47 pages, as it does after a refresh.
As has been said by others, what is badly needed is a [remove] link on the main watchlist page itself. – Smyth\ talk 12:27, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This [19] uploaded photo used to be something completely different (an image of a xenon flash lamp) before the cartoon image was uploaded over it. Why can't I revert it??-- Deglr6328 06:32, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
All right, I think I figured out what happened. Image:Flash.gif was uploaded by User:Abhilashkk on Dec 9, 2004. On Mar 11, 2005, it was nominated on IfD, then deleted on Mar 19. Two months later, on May 31, User:Gmaxwell (appropriately) uploaded commons:Image:Flash.gif, since there was no local file with that name, although I would have used a much more specific filename. On June 8, User:MegaSpy21 uploaded Image:Flash.gif—he probably should have checked Image:Flash.gif first, which would have shown the Commons version. His local image (the icon) prevents the Commons version (the flash) from showing, although it is still intact. I'm not sure what the policy is for what should be done now. — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:54, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC) [updated — Knowledge Seeker দ 06:43, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)]
The image source template {{ Image source}}, is being widely placed on talk pages at the moment. Like many other talk page templates it generates a header. Proper use of this template is through the subst: mechanism, but inevitably many users are not substituting it, but just inserting a template.
If the template isn't inserted with subst:, when a user clicks on the "edit section" link, they don't edit the section of their talk page, but the original template. This has resulting in it being commented on, and blanked.
Besided trying to get users of this template to use subst, or protecting the template, is there anything else that can be done to prevent this sort of thing? I'm thinking of making some templates always subst. Zeimusu | (Talk page) 23:48, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Why can't I log in? A message "incorrect password" appears, even though the password is correct. Fenice
Maybe put a link to "search commons", "search other languages" etc on the standard search page? - SV| t 00:20, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The "small" tag <small> doesn't work in my IE when I have the text font set to "large". Anyone knows why and if it will be fixed by the Wikipedia software some day?
If not, is there a better tag to show smaller text?
Thank you -- Fred- Chess 11:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've made a little program that goes and retrieves my watchlist for me. However, every once in a while, I don't get any response from Wikipedia. Error code is 0, just no content returned. No headers either. Here's my request:
GET /wiki/Special:Watchlist HTTP/1.0 Host: en.wikipedia.org Connection: close User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4 Cookie: enwikiUserID=93732;enwikiUserName=Ambush+Commander;enwikiToken=(INSERT VALID WIKI TOKEN HERE)
Is there something wrong with this request header? Why do I not seem to get any output at all? (By the way, I'm using PHP SimpleTest's virtual browser to handle the transaction.
At least, partially. A couple of article I have had no problems deleting, but I have tried at least ten times on both Danza Slap and Ben Wyrosdick, and keep getting an ERROR message when I attempt it. Rick K 22:54, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)
I'm not encountering any problems deleting, but if this happens to you just blank the page, protect, and list it in a new list on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Old with a note explaining why it needs to be deleted. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 18:06, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Anyone know how long this will last?
An hour?
A day?
A week?
The advertised mailing list doesn't give any info at all.
MPF 21:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It seems that every Wikipedia article reinvents the wheel when it comes to how to do footnotes. Just a quick review of recent featured articles shows at least half a dozen different ways of handling footnotes (some more successful than others). I think editors would be much more inclined to use footnotes to cite their sources if there was a straightforward way to do it. I am familiar with Wikipedia:Footnotes, Wikipedia:Footnote2, Wikipedia:Footnote3, Wikipedia:Footnote4, etc. Clearly we need a better way to handle this problem. Perhaps a technical solution would be possible? Any thoughts on this? Kaldari 20:07, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Will this ever happen? I make maps of thousands of locations, just make a map and plot in red dot. Easy to generate automatically, I think. How long I continue make simple maps?
-- Fred- Chess 11:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
If I want to move some GFDL images that I had uploaded here on Wikipedia on to the Commons, would the best thing to do be simply to upload them again in commons and have the ones here deleted? I assume that links would remain intact? If I do that, would the originals be Speedy Delete material?
Thanks, — Asbestos | Talk 18:00, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I created a wiki using mediawiki. It was working perfectly and i left it some weeks by itself. After some time it gave me the message:
Sorry! The wiki is experiencing some technical difficulties, and cannot contact the database server. Too many connections
I am sure that the wiki is not having too many visitors, as it´s unkonwn. Any ideas what caused this? Thanks...
Alexandre
Where are changes to template behavior announced? Not Template History; I mean MediaWiki or CSS changes which affect templates. ( SEWilco 14:05, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC))
Could you please review the definition of the Marginal Rate of Transformation in the Welfare Economics section. It should be the Marginal Rate of Technical Substitution when it refers to the mix of factors of production used in a particular production process. It is the slope the isoquant. On the other hand, the Marginal Rate of Transformation is the slope of the Production Possibilities Frontier.
moved to reference desk at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk#Marginal_Rate_of_Transformation
Last night, a number of pages appeared in Category:Stub when they were edited to change from {{msg:stub}} to {{stub}} in advance of 1.5. While it was unsurprising that the first edit since Category:Stub was added to the template in January populated the category, they had not previously been listedin Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Stub (which has less than 500 entries thanks to the Stub sorting project). Any ideas as to why this should have happened? Susvolans (pigs can fly) 11:54, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I have just seen the "Create account / log in" despite having "remember my account" set. Tried to login, got:
The password you entered is incorrect. Please try again.
Tried emailing new password and got:
Error sending mail: There is no e-mail address recorded for user "Chris Q".
What's hapened to my account! -- 213.38.213.226 10:41, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) (Chris Q)
I had the same problem, although I was more than happy to blame it on an off-WP conversation I had with an admin. Perhaps I was too quick in my conclusion(s). I was too impatient to wait very long tho, and requested a new pwd, and was immediately able to log in using that new pwd. Tomer TALK 11:39, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)
I was viewing the Nikola_Tesla page when I encountered the language, SHIT FUCK NIGGER WHORE SLUT or something similar. I tried to revert the page, but there was nothing there to revert. There were also no recent changes to the page. I can only assume that WP's servers have been hacked in some manner. Mbstone 07:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It has been observed that the behavior of a template has changed. Where is a description of this change? It used to be that a template automatically created a wiki end-of-line, so an implied end-of-paragraph could appear. This was observed when a template tried to include the '#' numbered list token, as the entire list used to have to be on a single line because an actual newline would create a paragraph break which would start a new list. Apparently template behavior changed recently, as some weakly-formatted articles started showing material grouped in a single paragraph. ( SEWilco 03:44, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC))
I have occasionally seen references to the accessibility of Wikipedia. Out of interest, I tested todays featured article with access valet at ( http://valet.webthing.com/access/) and it failed. Criticisms included:
I know enough about accessibility to know that an good site can fail the test and a bad site can pass. So my test may not mean much. I do worry that an extremely high proportion of Wikipedia articles contain templates. The use of 2D formats are regarded as 'not a good thing' for accessibility.
In any case, I wonder if we could increase accessibility? We could at least discuss it when we promote one style over another, or modify software. Comments welcome. Bobblewik (talk) 23:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I just added the Babel thing to my user page and I am having problems. I typed {{Babel-3|en|es-3|ta-2}} because I am a native English speaker, am proficcient at Spanish and can speak and understand Tamil. The problem is that it loads fine for english and spanish but fails for Tamil. if you would like to see what happens, please visit my user page. Please provide me assistance as to what I need to do to fix this. Thanks. -- R6MaY89 22:55, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC)
How many gigabytes are we talking about with articles without media and how big is it with media?
My nephew was around and he added some stuff to wikipedia, because he thinks he's funny. It's on this IP (he added Davy Buntinx and Jonathan Quarem), can you please delete these posts? Thank you very much!
Anyone who's a frequenter of WP:RFC would have noticed that it's regularly a lengthy mess of old proposals, and most people only read the top few and comment on those (and watch them if appropriate). Presently, cleanup consists of copy/pasting a bunch of old ones to the archives whenever they get too long. Ideally, people unlist RFCs when they no longer apply, but in practice that rarely happens.
It would be useful to employ a bot to do this work. The process would be simple - once per week, examine all RFC entries and check when they were last edited. If they haven't been edited for two weeks, they can be archived, because that means the discussion has died (and, hopefully, been resolved).
An alternate proposal would be to have them time out one month after creation, on grounds that by that point, the discussion would have gone stale anyway.
Would anyone have a problem with this? It would make the page a lot more legible. R adiant _* 12:25, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
David Gerard wrote at WP:RFA in relation to the Zivinbudas request:
This got me wondering about whether as a measure to deal with this type of situation it would be possible to block anonymous editors from any given IP range, but still allow registered users to edit (unless otherwise blocked). The block wouldn't be permanent thing, just long enough for the intended user to get the message. Those trying to edit anonymously from that range would see a notice along the lines of:
I guess this isn't currently technically possible, but would it be something worth investigating further and/or requesting? Thryduulf 08:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've been pointed to an open feature request: MediaWiki bug 550 "Blocks on anonymous users only". Thryduulf 10:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This is a rather strange bug... if you move Template:foo to wherever (for instance when userfying a template after WP:TFD discussion), Talk:foo is moved along. R adiant _* 08:17, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)
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Okay, I've been getting stupid error messages all day, but this seems to be the last straw. First I created a new article, then it was gone again -- just an empty page. I wanted to try again from scratch, so I decided to delete the empty page. But I couldn't -- "internal error", it said. What the hell is going on here? Can anyone retrieve the text? <KF> 21:47, May 31, 2005 (UTC)
I was just thinking: if I wanted to send an email to someone and make it look as if it was from someone else, Wikipedia is the perfet tool to do it. I'll explain (for this purpose, I'm Eve, I want to send an email to Bob as if it came from Alice - see Alice and Bob).
Q.E.D.--> Energy ( talk) 07:18, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
Well, I don't know how to do that, so Eve likely wouldn't either. If we're talking about Hackers Supreme, obviously they don't need WP. Anyway, is it actually possible to send emails from any address?--> Energy ( talk) 07:58, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
I'm not being sure of myself. I'm simply saying that if there is one human being (me) who can't, there is likely to be another. That other human being could be Eve.--> Energy ( talk) 06:19, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hi,
I was wondering if there's any way for me to download all the entries (just the name) in wikipedia. For example, the entry for "condoleeza rice" - I just want to download "condoleeza rice" and nothing else. Basically, I want all the article names that are in the wikipedia.
Any help/suggestion appreciated!!!!
When someone presses edit, a flag should be flipped so that if someone else presses edit they get a simple notice at the top of the page that it may be in use and when the edit button was pressed. When the person presses save, the flag will be flipped back.
It will also flip back to normal after a specific time period with no "preview" button presses, like half an hour.
It will still be editable with or without the flag. It will just have a notice.
This seems pretty obvious. - Omegatron 20:00, May 30, 2005 (UTC)
For some time now, there's been an apparent problem with the page history on Germany; this version always appears as the second-most-recent, producing some very odd-looking results when one looks at the most-recent diff. Anyone have any idea what's causing this, or better yet, how to fix it...? Thanks. Alai 05:45, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
I created the Basket Case disambiguation page and as a follow-up tried to link several pages to the Basket Case (song) page. However, on some of those pages "Basket Case" only appears within Template:Green Day, and I have already changed the link in that template. Still the wrong link shows up in the Basket Case "What links here". It seems there is nothing I can do about that. What is wrong? <KF> 22:37, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
How often is the file links section updated? If you take a look at Image:Flag of Europe.png there are hundreds of file links, most of which were through {{ MEP-stub}} or {{ EU-stub}} and they're now using Image:European flag.png (there are 4-5 different versions of the same flag at the moment on wikipedia) but the file links haven't updated at all, as far as I can see, any ideas? -- Thanks! -- Joolz 15:32, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
Hello, I just noticed that the Lou Dobbs is not alphabetizing properly in the People from Idaho category. The article is listed under "L" rather than "D."
The cat code seems to be correct... and it is listed properly in other categories it belongs to (like 1945 Births). All other members of the Idaho category seem to be in the correct spot. - Boisemedia 08:30, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
See:
Category:Lists of songs.
Yesterday I edited the article
List of Number 1 albums (UK), so as to have it sorted under "1" instead of "L" in the category. Afterwards there appear two references in the Category-list. Since it's 24h ago, I dont think it has to do with server-delay. Possibly related to way of my editing: I was doing a manual sweep, using two browsers (MS IE; both used my user-name) alternatively. I can live with the situation, but it's not as expected. Anyone an idea, or solution? Bye, -
DePiep
15:31, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
Is there any kind of software package available in which one could either 1) convert an MS Word file to Wikipedia markup, or 2) format text (for example, bold, italic, underline, etc) for Wikipedia by highlighting and picking from a menu, like typical word processing software. (Preferably something that runs under Mac OS X, but I can also run WXP.)
I want to write some taxonomic articles, which require lots of italic type for species names. Having to manually type in apostrophes each time is ergonomically inefficient to say the least.
Peter
Ok, I'm extremely confused as to why namespaced pages are suddenly appearing with blue backgrounds. Did I miss something? Oh look, I notice as I type that this edit page has a blue background as well. What's going on? Sorry if I'm being extremely unobservant and stupid etc. AdamM 18:49, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
As a accounted user I have the ability to move pages. However on some pages I can't see the move button. These happen to be Wikipedia and Helium, they are both {{ featured}} so I thought that had something to do with it. You know, the best articles shouldn't need moving. But I go to other featured articles, namely Buddhism and Emacs, have the move button there. What's the deal? -- metta, The Sunborn 16:39, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
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I've asked in a couple of different forums about this and no one has responded yet. Can someone please respond to the question about superscripts posed at wikipedia talk:How to edit a page#superscripts? The special character table shown when editing was updated (not too long ago) to include caron characters. When picked from this table, superscript 2 and superscript 3 still display the literal (unsafe) characters. I'm fairly certain these should suggest ² and ³, and I'm perfectly willing to change this myself, but can't find where to make this change (and I suspect even if I knew, I wouldn't have permission). Thanks. -- Rick Block 15:23, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
²
, etc., is fine too, but <sup>2</sup>
will tend to mess up line spacing, and should be avoided. —
Michael
Z. 2005-03-31 21:24 Zsdfkfdsi sdisdods adsiksdi dsudsudsu9dsidsidsisdui asdujdshisddsuudsusd
So, who needs to change what so that the edit window does not continue to suggest unsafe characters? -- Rick Block 00:37, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Is anyone else getting this error: The "You have new messages" bar appears at the top of every Wikipedia page regardless of whether any message there are actually new? It's been happening to me since at least this morning. -- Antaeus Feldspar 22:46, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Is there a way to perform the set intersection operation on two categories in wikipedia?
For example the page on Monkey Island is a member of the category '1990_computer_and_video_games'. It would be favourable to have such a page as a member of the categories '1990' and 'computer and video games'. The fact that the game is a video game from 1990 would be inplicit in it's membership of the two categories. If a user performs the set intersection operation on the two categories '1990' and 'computer and video games', a list of computer and video games from 1990 would be generated.
Also consider the page List_of_Irish_poets. If poets were categorised in the category 'poet', and Irish people were categories in the category 'Irish', by performing the set intersection of the categories 'poet' and 'Irish' a list of Irish poets would be dynamically generated.
Is there a way to get expanded variables in your signature? Using {{subst:NUMBEROFARTICLES}} literally puts {{subst:NUMBEROFARTICLES}} in your signature (until the next time the page is saved). -- W( t) 14:34, 2005 May 14 (UTC)
Several articles I watch have images that have apparently been deleted. Where have they gone, why have they been deleted? Is this a server problem or intentional deletions? See: John Carmack (2 missing images), Game programmer, Game programming, Gauntlet (arcade game). I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed this. TIA! — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:09, May 13, 2005 (UTC)
Following the debacle over cricket (portal), now in the Portal pseudonamespace at Portal:Cricket, there is a proposal at Wikipedia:Portalspace to add a new namespace to contain the Wikiportals, and potentially pages like the Community portal and Main Page. -- ALoan (Talk) 20:44, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
Occasionally, when typing into the edit summary field, I have inadvertantly hit the return/enter key, which causes the edits to be submitted. Frequently, this has been a real pain, since I wasn't ready to submit, I really just wanted to see a preview. Is there some way to change this behavior? I think that hitting return in the edit summary field should either do nothing, or it should cause a preview, not a submit. Anyone else have any feelings about this? func (talk) 16:25, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
It is nice to have the search facility working most (indeed seems like all of) the time. But how often is the index going to be rebuilt? Once a week or more often preferably. -- RHaworth 12:00, 2005 Apr 24 (UTC)
One problem is that there is more than one server and their indexes are not updated simultaneously. It is now over ten days since the indexes on either server were rebuilt. Could someone who knows, please state what the arrangements are for rebuilding the indexes. -- RHaworth 12:53, 2005 May 12 (UTC)
Is there a way to rename an image (like moving an article, but I'd still have to manually update the links that use it)? I uploaded an image then later discovered the only difference between the name I used and an existing image is the capitalization. (I'm not sure it's worth worrying about but I figured I'd ask). RJFJR 03:29, May 11, 2005 (UTC)
There is no reason diff pages should end up really wide with wide text: [1]. (I guess this should be a bug report?) - Omegatron 17:46, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
The page Wikipedia:Requested articles/Social Sciences and Philosophy has every category (and its content) duplicated 12 times! — Wahoofive ( talk) 16:41, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
I've been experiencing an annoying problem over the last couple of days where-by clicking "Save" results in a preview rather than a save. Often it takes two or three successive hits of "Save" to get it to actually save instead of bringing up the preview screen. At first I figured I had been hitting "Preview" by mistake, but I've confirmed that it definitely occurs even when I hit "Save".
Is this a known problem? I did a search of the archives, but found no-one else commenting on this.
Thanks, —
Asbestos |
Talk
18:27, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
(I had to press Save six times to get this to post instead of previewing)
I use Firefox as my standard browser and Wikipedia has showed up as normal until last week when the tables stopped registering. Additionally, at the end of the page it always says: "Retrieved from: http://en.wikipedia.org/etc". I purged the cache and my history and cookies and everything. I can't figure it out.
Here's are two images:
I would appreciate any help!! - Scm83x 21:17, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
I was wondering about something... why are Wikipedia article names case sensitive? Whenever two articles which differ only in capitalization exist, one is (or should be) a redirect to the other - and arguably, such redirects could double the amount of database entries (which is precisely one of the bottlenecks of Wikipedia performance). R adiant _* 12:43, May 9, 2005 (UTC)
I up loaded a 'draft version' of an image and then uploaded a final version (after it was rephoto-ed and then photoshopped). How do I get the old version at Image:PowerPack1.jpg deleted leaving just the current version? Is there page for requesting deletes of images that are duplicats/old versions? RJFJR 06:33, May 8, 2005 (UTC)
When searching for contravention I got 177 results supposedly on 9 pages but only 100 seemed to appear. Thank you, Ancheta Wis 19:39, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
Hi everyone,
I am one of the Admins of the Low Saxon Wikipedia (lang: nds). There are some technical users that are used by robots and I would like to flag these users as robots so that we can filter these in Special:RecentChanges. But unfortunately I have not found the place to configure this. How is that done?
Kind regards, Heiko Evermann 18:31, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
So, the Meta page for requesting feautures is down, I'm being told, so I will state my point here. I really believe we need an option to see, when browsing a category, ALL articles in this category AND all of its subcategories, recursively. See my post here for long motivation. Short motivation is it would make it possible and feasible to keep an eye on all articles in a certain category of interest. IMHO, the developers should turn their attention to this. Solver 13:13, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
A sanskrit transliteration problem here:
The God Śiva is fairly widely mentioned in both Hinduism-, Psychology- and Mythology-related articles. The problem is that the proper transliteration of the hindu word is Śiva, and throughout Wikipedia it is sometimes spelled Shiva and sometimes Siva, in the same articles, making it a whole mess. It would be a minor problem, but it extends to saivite / shaivite, sivaya / shivaya, saivism / shaivism, saiva / shaiva. The number of articles which mention these movements, groups, philosophies are too widespread to be corrected by a single person. Where could I post a suggestion of a standard incorporated and maintained by a bot?
Thanks! -- Subramanian 13:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Tried to add Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Spoiled_brat but not appearing on list
Wikipedia:Votes for deletion
Actually it did appear, with "not encyclopedic content". It was the formatting of your entry which was wrong. A VfD entry should contain
Your entry had left out components 1 and 3. It is now corrected. Sjakkalle 11:04, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
Recently, I decided to start using the cologne blue skin, because it takes much less time for my computer to load (even with cable!). However, the edit box is actually wider than the viewing window. Right now, I have the horizontal scrollbar a far to the right as it will go, but I still can't see past the a of horizontal, and I can't use the edit window's scrollbar, because it is also clipped off. I'm pretty sure this isn't a browser issue, because I'm running one of the newer versions of Internet Explorer. →Iñgōlemo← talk 04:09, 2005 May 5 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! →Iñgōlemo← talk 21:29, 2005 May 8 (UTC)
Update: I have discovered that you can't just adjust the width: you also have to disable the default edit box has full width option, or the width will remain constant. →Iñgōlemo← talk 22:29, 2005 May 15 (UTC)
I know it gets asked all the time, but maybe this idea's a little different. Would it be possible to move some of the server load onto user computers by adding a bunch of javascript stuff for formatting markup for headings and such, and only query the wikipedia servers when necessary? I'm thinking specifically of previews, which could be rendered just as easily by the user's computer, and the servers would just have to be polled for each link and image, rather than having to render the entire page from wiki markup each time someone pressed preview... - Omegatron 04:01, May 5, 2005 (UTC)
Is there a simple way to copy (what I will call) a Complete Template System which is used at WikiPedia, for use in another Wiki based on the MediaWiki?
In particular, I am looking at all the date/calendaring templates. The calendar "system" is full of templates, which together produce a background for dates and navigation. Some of it (the Template Collection) is the collection of BuiltUp Calendars, some of it is pages with decades, months, and years constructed.
I have wandered about, looking at the Templates, and the Templates which make up or are referenced on templates. I tried copying some to see how they work on my blank MediaWiki (installed on a WinXP with the TWS LAMP). I followed along, copying several templates as I discovered their references serially. Quickly, I realized the depth of, and number of, templates I was facing -- making the effort futile.
I want to end up with the Date/Calendar "navigation" that is present on WIkiPedia, but without the content, so that I and a Group can add articles relevent to a project.
I am aware of the full dumps, and assume there is a (painful) method for pulling out portions of the entire article database.
I was hoping, against hope, that there is simple way to snag the collection of XMLs I am looking for, and to add them into the database on my install of MediaWiki.
Ideas/Suggestions...???
With your insights, there probably is a universal utility of the Date/Calendaring system. With that probable utility, I might not be alone in seeking a means for trapping it.
The special:export [as I understand it] requires that I know all the template names, and I don't, and I don't even know how to identify and assemble the names, other than by brute force [. . . part of the futility of the early effort!]. Even if I could identify all of them, and recover the XML produced, I have no idea what to do with the entries, other than that they belong in the database, on the appropriate tables, properly normalized and indexed. If someone has an idea how to assemble the template names, that would be a good first step. Then, I might know what questions to ask, next. JohnRuskin 02:10, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
When you click "Categories:" in any category footer, you are taken here, which is the first of many, many pages of categories. The only text at the top is ungrammatical:
I would have edited this text myself, but the page is locked. I think the minimum acceptable change is:
And better would be if an actual, "live" number, were included in the sentence instead of saying "many thousands".
I also recommend that clicking "Categories" in any category footer takes you to Lists of articles by category, as the current link really is extremely useless. Tempshill 16:40, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
I was looking through the IP blocklist. For users that are autoblocked, I noticed what I thought was an extra pair of quotes, until I copied-and-pasted it here. It looks like the reason for the original block is inserted inside three apostrophes, which I assume was to intend to bold the reason. It doesn't appear this is happening; it appears as below:
Anyone know why this is? — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:17, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
It comes from the edit summary, which doesn't do markup translation. Same thing shows up on Recent Changes. RickK 66.60.159.190 17:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
I've noted an intermittent glitch in IE6 (which cropped up at about the same time as the first line bug noted above). Sometimes the category box that should appear at the bottom of the page is displayed on top of the text higher up. It's not free-floating and can't be dragged back into position, but hitting Refresh usually cures it. Lee M 01:13, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
See [5] for an example. The "Computer Terminology" category has about 480 links in it. When you look at each page, you can look at the "next 200" or "previous 200" links, which is great, but each page then claims "This category has 99 articles in it" or similar, when it should say "475". Tempshill 21:16, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
What's the deal with the auto-logout? It seems to log me out automatically after a ridiculously short period of time. Of course, no "logging out" notice is given, and the preloaded pages show that I'm still logged in... adding to the deception. Then I go to make an edit, and suddenly I'm editing under a random IP address.
What can I do to stop this stupid auto-logout? Set a page to auto-refresh every ten minutes?
- Pioneer-12 16:22, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
Ah, I thought checking that box was supposed to remember your password but was broken....
Hey, I was right!
WTF. Nice misleading name and help file there. OK, now THAT is officially a candidate for the Hall of Shame.
- Pioneer-12 10:45, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
Hmmmm.... Perhaps you are assuming a meaning instead of reading what it actually says?
Lets start with the check box itself. It just says "Remember me". Remember me?! What the hell is "Remember me" supposed to mean? An extremely ambiguous statement. Remember me could mean any number of things. Remember me how? Remember my name? Remember my password? Remember that I'm logged in? Remember that I logged in from this IP?
Now to figure out what this box is supposed to do, lets see what the "help text" says. It starts: "If you click the check box Remember me, formerly Remember my password across sessions..."
So, the check box was formerly "Remember my password across sessions". This information is also ambiguous. It is ambiguous because this statement could mean "formerly called" (thus indicating a simple change of name) or "formerly was" (indicating a change of state). If formerly called, then the check box is "Remember my password across sessions" by another name. If there was a change of state, it was from "Remember my password across sessions" (A name which says what is being remembered: a password) to "Remember me" (A name which could mean any number of things). So, at this point, we don't know exactly what "Remember me" is, but we know it's former name and/or state involved remembering a password. Remember me might be the same as "remembering my password" or it might be somewhat different.
Let alone the fact that "sessions" is also ambiguous... if could refer to "Wikipedia sessions", that is, different instances of being logged on to Wikipedia; it could refer to "browser sessions", that is, in between different sessions of running an instance of a web browser; or, very rarely, it could refer to "network sessions", that is, a type of connection in a networking protocol. (But why would any user care about network sessions?) Lets read on...
Then the text says "...you will not have to give your password again when you access Wikipedia from the same computer". How is that possible? So the next time I logon I won't have to type in my password? The only way that is possible is if it had saved the password and had it pretyped in when I go to the login page. This situation is consistent with "Remember my password across sessions". So thus the new reader will think that "remember me" means "Remember my password across sessions", aka "Remember my password between Wikipedia sessions".
It doesn't. That is simply false. I logoff and go to logon again from the same computer... and I have to type my password again! I am accessing Wikipedia from the same computer and I have to give my password again. So the help is not just misleading, it is false, untrue, bogus.
From empirical evidence it seems as if "Remember my password between sessions" is trying to refer to "network sessions". Which would explain the senseless auto-logoffs. Which puts an even bigger question forth.... WHO CARES. Why would I NOT want it to remember my password across network sessions? Why does this check box even exist? Why doesn't it just remember the IP address like every other website? (Or at least remember it long enough so I'm not logged off for no apparent reason... or if I am logged off, at least make it clear that I am logged off, perhaps by changing the area around the "save page" button. A ubiquitous line in the top corner that is scrolled off the screen half the time doesn't count.) Who designs this stupid non-IP setup and then puts it as the default?
The check box needs to be changed to an unambiguous, truthful, and non-technical wording, such as "Stay logged on between browser sessions", and the help text needs to be updated to a similar truthful meaning. The help text should also explain what is happening when you use this option: "This will send a cookie to your web browser. As long as this cookie is kept unmodified, you will appear as logged in whenever you access Wikipedia. If this cookie is deleted (for example, by deleting all cookies in your browser's cache), you will have to log in again. Logging out also removes the cookie."
As it is, expecting the reader to assume that "sessions" refers to "network sessions" is ridiculous. 99% of the population doesn't even know what a network session is. And half the people that do know aren't going to care, anyway.
- Pioneer-12 11:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
p.s. (Wow, that wound up taking a big chunk of text to explain fully. Ambiguity is a bitch.)
Pioneer-12 asks:
The kind of session isn't a network session strictly speaking, it's an HTTP session, managed by PHP's session handling functions. This kind of session works by setting a cookie, just like the "remember password" feature. The difference is that the session cookie has the "discard" attribute set, which means that it is discarded when you close your browser. This is done to prevent others from using your account after you have left the computer.
The other difference is that PHP sessions store the user ID and other such information on the server side. Only a "session key" is sent to the user. The remember password feature stores all required authentication information in the cookie itself. On our servers, the session information is stored in the notoriously unreliable memcached system. Session information may occasionally be lost or go missing temporarily, causing users to be logged out. The simplest workaround for this is to use the remember password feature, as long as you are not worried about other people using the same computer.
Websites cannot and do not use IP addresses as a session key, since many users may share the same IP address, and one user may have many IP addresses. Some sites use IP addresses in addition to cookies, for extra security, but this requires the server to have an exhaustive list of load-balancing proxy groups, or at least a list of organisational subnets. -- Tim Starling 05:13, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
The check box needs to be changed to an unambiguous, truthful, and non-technical wording, such as "Stay logged on between browser sessions"... -- You are too smart. Look at it from the dummy's viewpoint. "Remember me" is fine. It works the way a dummy expects it to work. Hey, I'm a real dummy, and it even works the way I expect. — Xiong 熊 talk * 02:05, 2005 May 7 (UTC)
I am currently developing (actually, I just started) a bot to make Image Tagging alot more efficient. What it would do is that it would tag all untagged images with {{No source}}, and thus put it in the Category:Images with unknown source. It would also do a few other things to simplify image tagging, looking up keywords such as "GFDL" or "Public Domain" etc and then ask me if it could tag if with the corresponding tag. It would also automatically drop a message to the uploading users talk page asking them to tag the image. This would have a few benefits:
However, I have realised that when you look at a category of images (such as Category:Images with unknown source) it displays all the images in it. Is there some way to make the category just display links to the images? And another thing, is using categories for this kosher? Would it be a tremendous server-hog? It seems to work fine for stub-sorting though..... Any help or suggestions/ideas are welcome. Gkhan 18:46, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)
Final two days of the vote on Wikipedia:Template standardisation. Ends 23:59 on 01MAY05. Noisy | Talk 12:32, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)
Can someone tell me why links pages like this one, are parly in alphabetical order and partly in what seems to be a random order? Adam 08:41, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I see that in category pages such as U.S. film directors, the people are organized by last name. I just added a stub for Jonathan Caouette, and he is indexed under J. How do I tell Wikipedia to index him under C instead? (And I don't just want it done, I'd like to know how :-). Thanks. Luqui 22:42, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)
Hmm, also, how do I link to a category page without adding the current page to the category? Luqui 22:45, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)
Look at my first three edits on April 29 on [8]. I clicked the section edit links and voted on all three. The first edit put in my vote for one. The second edit put another vote in, but deleted my first vote. Same for the third one - it deleted my second vote. I got no edit conflict warning. This has been happening frequently on the user space proposals vote. -- SPUI ( talk) 09:58, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I remember at one time that a printer friendly option was available. What happened to that?
Megan
I know its possible to get an RSS feed of the newpages and event the recent changes at
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:Newpages&feed=rss http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:Recentchanges&feed=rss
respectively. However what would be most useful to me and I'm sure a lot of other wikipedians would be an RSS feed of my watchlist. This would save me having to keep checking the actual watchlist page and hopefully let the user correct vandalism faster if they were to be notified of changes when they happen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:Watchlist&feed=rss
currently does not do anything, sorry i'm not too familiar with the technical issues surrounding this, but if its possible for the newpages and recentchanges, would it be possible to implement it for the watchlist. Thanks-- Pluke 23:29, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I have been working extensively on Wikipedia for three months now, but this is something completely new. It has occured on WikiCommons before. The first line, that contains:
"User name|my talk|preferences|my watchlist|my contributions|log out"
is generally positioned on the right. However, when I put a mouse cursor over it, it moves on the left over the Wikipedia logo. Why is that? What can I do about this? I'm using IE 6.0 with Widows XP. -- Eleassar777 17:42, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Now it's all right - it just disappeared by itself. Thanks. -- Eleassar777 20:07, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Sections moved to Wikipedia:Content labeling proposal. -- Rick Block 19:49, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
I've downloaded the Mediawiki (1.4.2) and set up a web server and everything on my localhost. As you know, with Wiki can you edit documents/articles, etc. What I want to be able to do is restrict access on a per document/page basis, i.e. for this page, I only want to allow this user and this user (or groups) to be able to edit or make changes to that pag. I assume there is a way to do this, since the real wikipedia.org site implements this in a sense (has types of users like admin, developer, anonymous user, etc.). Can someone help me out? Thanks!
This is a question about a technique that is being used in Template:Election box.
The template makes use of two pieces of data about a political party, it's name and it's identifying colour. These are derived via the name of the article that describes the political party. The article name is passed as an argument to the template, the template has to get the name and colour.
Currently this is done by referencing a page using {{ :{{{articleName}}}/meta/color}}. Which will, for example, resolve to {{:Labour Party (UK)/meta/color}} which in turn resolves to #CC0000.
I have two questions here:
80N 23:32, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
I'm thinking about creating a template for some election results, but it requires a variable number of rows. I have figured out one way of doing it, which is to use a combination of three templates like this:
{{ResultHeader}} {{ResultRow| | colour = Conservative | candidate = Andrew Turner | party = [[Conservative Party (UK)|Conservative]] | vote = 25,223 | percentage = 39.73% }} {{ResultRow| | colour = Liberal | candidate = Peter Brand | party = [[Liberal Democrats (UK)|Liberal Democrats]] | vote = 22,397 | percentage = 35.28% }} ... {{ResultFooter}}
This would create a table that might look like this (which came from here):
Party | Candidate | Votes | Percentage Vote Share | |
---|---|---|---|---|
Conservatives | Andrew Turner | 25,223 | 39.73% | |
Liberal Democrats | Peter Brand | 22,397 | 35.28% | |
Labour | Deborah Gardiner | 9,676 | 15.24% |
Which was actually created using the following source:
{| {{prettytable}} |-style="background-color:#E9E9E9" !colspan="2"|Party !Candidate !Votes !Percentage Vote Share |- | {{party color cell|Conservative Party (UK)}} |[[Conservative Party (UK)|Conservatives]] |[[Andrew Turner]] |25,223 |39.73% |- ...
The purpose is to provide an elegant display of tabular data but using a mechanism that is easier than copying a table that is rich in formatting. It will also provide a more consistent presentation of information across (potentially) about 650 articles.
My questions for this forum are:
80N 08:21, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)
Suddenly I can't read the tab-labels on pages ("discussion", "edit this page", "history", "watch" etc) while using the default skin in mozilla. When I hover over the blank labels the text comes back, but clicking on them doesn't work. It might be some javascript/dyn-html-stuff that changed. I don't know. It looks like something I've seen on other sites that aren't mozilla compliant. Mozilla 1.4.2. Anyone know anything about this? Shanes 02:49, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) (using the Classic skin, and it sucks)
I have a few subpages of my user page that have their own talk pages — e.g., User talk:Dcljr/Characters. Will I get a "You have new messages" alert when someone posts to such a subpage? I haven't noticed yet whether I do or not... - dcljr 23:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The table format in Code page 437 got completely messed up. As the article itself did not change, one can conclude that the mess is produced by recent changes in Wikipedia engine. — Monedula 07:00, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The problem is connected with �
or �
getting into the wiki text. Seemingly �
gets treated as "end of string", and everything after it is ignored. —
Monedula 08:59, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
{| style="background:#eeeeee;" |� |}
I'm having a bit of difficulty getting Syriac script to display in the right direction, right to left. I thought it was something to do with my browser, but other users have spotted it. Exhibit A is Assyrian Neo-Aramaic, where the two examples of Syriac script in the infobox are written backwards. Exhibit B is Aramaic language, where the Syriac in the infobox displays correctly. I realise that entering the code backwards is not the answer. What is? -- Gareth Hughes 10:46, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm using Firefox; I don't know what other users have that produces the same problem. Do both examples of Syriac display rtl? -- Gareth Hughes 11:31, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I was wondering.... Does the wiki software (a) simply save the content of each edit individually, or does (b) it save edits line by line, which are compaired to previously existing lines--with new lines being added to the database only if different then any previously existing line.
The differences in storage requirements between these methods are enormous. Lets say someone blanks a page and then restores it. Using method a, the entire page is now saved into the database twice. Using method b, only a few bytes are added to indicate the readdition of lines already existing in the database.
Of course there are other possible storage methods and variants, but the question is: does the software use a system similar to a or similar to b? - Pioneer-12 10:36, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm not technical nor I think alone in combating "appeasement" revisionism in the Wikipedia and it occurs to me that protecting pages as a whole ,rather than by sections , prevents their correct evolution . Edit wars are so tiresome and time-consuming that an editor will quickly withdraw or as may prove necessary, simply concentrate on the censoring facilitation of the Wikipedia. If the page protection passwords could relate to sections within articles perhaps the conflicting sides of historical viewpoint (or indeed revisionism) could be included in parallel . As can be seen in the China-Japan dispute today , this revisionism is a live and ongoing reality . In the wikipedia it is equally live . Flamekeeper 09:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC) Perhaps to solve the revert wars I should just add a parallel page - build an alternative wikipedia within the wikipedia. I don't suppose Policy would favour that . Flamekeeper 09:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I've noticed that the Ossetian interwiki (os.wikipedia.org) link in the Tbilisi article does not work. shows up attached to the Tbilisi Metro link, as an "edit" link to an article ostensibly named Os:калак. The link is there, and the article is there http://os.wikipedia.org/wiki/Калак, but there appears to be a prollem getting from one to the other. (It's rendering this way in FFox, N7 and MSIE6.) Tomer TALK 02:06, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)
Most articles have a tab labelled 'Edit this page'. Occasionally I see the label as just 'Edit'. Does anybody know why that is? Of course, now I look for one, I can't find an example. Bobblewik (talk) 17:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
It says "edit this page" right now! (And it said edit before.) Oooh, naughty developer! Naughty naughty! - Pioneer-12 10:59, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
p.s. How is this amusing? Perhaps if the labels were changed to Esperanto or something....
p.p.s. Perhaps this is a battle between clarity and brevity?
p.p.p.s. I think the tab should say "Edit THIS".
Right. Problem 1. I have lost the page history for Lancaster. A resident of Lancaster california took offence to the fact that the original had precedence over his and cut and paste moved the page. I didn't realise this, tried to fix it by moving the pending deletion version back, but now it's all gone wrong and I'm not sure what I've done.
See talk:Lancaster/cutnpaste, talk:Lancaster/pending deletion.
Also, why is my talk page displaying a version from several months ago, but not the TOC? Confused and frustrated. Dunc| ☺ 14:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Template talk:Spoiler is somehow messed up in a way that prevents editing a single section in (roughly) the second half of the page. And it's too big to edit the whole page sanely over my connection. And I have a comment I want to make in the last section, dammit.
Could someone see if they can fix this? -- Jmabel | Talk 05:27, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
An example of this is the article about the Electromagnetic spectrum. I'd like to print it out accompanied by the articles about Radio waves, Microwave, Infrared, Optical spectrum, Ultraviolet, X-ray and Gamma ray. As that would form a good booklet or introduction to these subjects.
I did something like that with the subject Color, and printed out a 44 pages booklet about Colors. What a magnificent booklet it is! :)
I must sound a big geeky, but really, it seems like good functionality. If only HTML could do page numbers and TOCs with page numbering. I guess I'll have to do that with Write or Word or whatever.
Cheers, Erlend B.M.
Hello friends,
I'd like to concatenate multiple arcticles into a bigger article, something like the export-feature does now, but exporting to HTML.
I reckon I would be able to do this same thing by saving multiple articles, and cat them together. But it would be much smoother if wikipedia would offer this kind of functionality also for users who aren't technically skilled.
An example of this is the article about the Electromagnetic spectrum. I'd like to print it out accompanied by the articles about Radio waves, Microwave, Infrared, Optical spectrum, Ultraviolet, X-ray and Gamma ray. As that would form a good booklet or introduction to these subjects.
I did something like that with the subject Color, and printed out a 44 pages booklet about Colors. What a magnificent booklet it is! :)
I must sound a big geeky, but really, it seems like good functionality. If only HTML could do page numbers and TOCs with page numbering. I guess I'll have to do that with Write or Word or whatever.
Cheers, Erlend B.M.
My experimental template Template:mn seems to eat section breaks. If you look at Time-division multiplexing in edit mode you can see a section break like
==Transmission using Time Division Multiplexing (TDM)==
but, at least for me, it isn't visible. when I view the article normally. Any idea? I've also tried it in a local install of MediaWiki 1.4beta6 and everything seems to work fine (even with the same article text and same template!) Mozzerati 06:49, 2005 Apr 14 (UTC)
I've fixed several instances of massive duplication in articles in the past few days (most recently WP:HD which was duplicated twice, e.g. 4 times its normal size!). I've occasionally seen this in the past, but it seems to be happening much more often now. Anyone else noticing this? Perhaps a bug, or is there some user action that might be causing this? Other affected articles I've seen include Denver, Colorado, List of Celtic mythological beings, and WP:CFD. -- Rick Block 03:03, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I've just spotted this discussion and thougt you might be interested in an occurence that happened to me a couple of days ago on the Wikipedia:Wikistory page. This page is in three sections: the introductory one without a section header, the story, and a 'see also' section. I made an edit to the story section, but got an error when I submited (I don't remember if it was the "sorry the server didn't return a response see OpenFacts" or the "MySQL error in NumRows" one) and so refreshed the page. It appears the first edit actually took. [11]. The second edit caused an edit conflict with myself - and so I readded my edit (in this case [[Singapore]]) which had apparently been lost. What I didn't spot was that it also duplicated the two sections that I didn't edit [12]. I noticed this when the page displayed and removed it in my next edit [13]. Thryduulf 13:56, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
It might not be a truly new phenomenon either, as I've just stumbled accross this occurance [15] from 21 December 2004 at Talk:Hooliganism. Thryduulf 21:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm trying to create the article USS Galena, and I get the following dump:
Error in numRows(): Duplicate entry '0-USS_Galena' for key 2 Backtrace:
GlobalFunctions.php line 510 calls wfbacktrace() Database.php line 528 calls wfdebugdiebacktrace() Database.php line 717 calls databasemysql::numrows() MessageCache.php line 307 calls databasemysql::selectrow() MessageCache.php line 249 calls messagecache::getfromcache() GlobalFunctions.php line 432 calls messagecache::get() GlobalFunctions.php line 341 calls wfmsgreal() OutputPage.php line 620 calls wfmsg() Database.php line 386 calls outputpage::databaseerror() Database.php line 333 calls databasemysql::reportqueryerror() Database.php line 911 calls databasemysql::query() Article.php line 884 calls databasemysql::insert() EditPage.php line 239 calls article::insertnewarticle() EditPage.php line 68 calls editpage::editform() EditPage.php line 164 calls editpage::edit() index.php line 176 calls editpage::submit()
Okay, have a look at the page history for the article Rameen, and specifically the difference between my edit and the last: [16] All I did was embolden the title and add {{stub}} at the bottom, and the nonsense wasn't there. Somehow a previous revision has been deleted. Granted, this isn't a major problem, but still... — Wereon 19:57, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
Take a look at Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Uploading Law and Order orchestral sting. In the previous section there is a left aligned picture, which is causing the question and first paragraph of my answer in that section to be displayed at the same level of indentation. If you look at the code, all the paragraphs of my reply are indented one level (:text), but this is only shown where it is indented from the left margin, rather than the picture (at least in Firefox 1.04 on Windows 2000 at 1280x1024 resolution when using the monobook skin). Imho, the text should be indented no matter what it is indented from - I presume this is a CSS issue? Thryduulf 14:30, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
I had two problems yesterday. An anon user edited one of the articles on my watchlist, deleted a section, and added a single sentence. I fixed the problem, and as I normally would, checked the rest of the anon's contributions. In each case where s/he added information, a section was deleted, so I attempted to fix those as well. I copied the anon's addition, went to an earlier revision (with the deleted sections intact), pasted in his addition, and saved. I did not encounter any edit conflicts.
Although you can see the anon's edits in diffs from his contributions page, they have disappeared from the individual page histories ( Amanda De Cadenet, Schapelle Corby, Hoboken, New Jersey) -- there are no edits listed for User:67.81.177.1. I suspect that his edits have been attributed to someone else, as my edits to correct the problems appear to have been attributed to other users ( Xezbeth, on the Hoboken page). And apparently, my name (which should have been attached to the fix) has been attached to other edits entirely, resulting in two other editors leaving irate messages on my talk page about my changes.
I know there have been server problems the last few days, especially in lag between master/slave updates, and I expect things will improve soon, but I'd like to know if there has been any lasting corruption of the edit histories; I would not like to have someone else's edits attached to my name. If the problem is widespread, it could also cause serious problems for processes like RfC, RfAr, and so on that rely on diffs and page histories for the untangling of user disputes.
Has anyone else seen this problem? — Catherine\ talk 21:42, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
Is there any way to redirect to a subtopic headline? For instance, Kojima Productions is put in the Hideo Kojima article, and whenever I internally link to it, I use [[Hideo Kojima#Kojima Productions|Kojima Productions]]. However, if someone else uses an internal link by just typing [[Kojima Productions]], it will go somewhere else.
If you could do something like #REDIRECT [[Hideo Kojima#Kojima Productions]], that would be helpful.
...so I made these two new categories, "Canada buildings and structures stubs" and "Asia buildings and structures stubs", and wanted them to appear in the parent category "Buildings and structures stubs". I added the category link to the bottom of the editing in the usual way, [[Category:Buildings and structures stubs|Canada]], and the same for Asia (only with Asia instead of Canada, of course, and go back to the parent category... where both my new categories are indexed under S (presumably for Saskatchewan and Sri Lanka respectively). What gives? Grutness... wha? 13:42, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
I've noticed that with Template:Ref, when printing the note it adds the external URL to the end of the footnote. This is unnecessary. Does anyone know if there is a style we could use to suppress the URL being appended to an external link so we could apply this to that template? - Ta bu shi da yu 03:36, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Of course you can. The HTML is generated server-side, but the CSS is interpreted at the client. Just add the following to your monobook.css:
@media print { sup.plainlinks .urlexpansion { display:none ! important } }
This will omit all URL expansions in print output, but only within the <sup> tags created by the {{ref}} templates. Lupo 07:49, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
If a person wants to create a nonsense/vanity article without being quickly spotted on the New Page Patrol isn't it just to create first an irrelevant redirect, then convert the redirect into a nonsense/vanity article. Redirects don't turn up on Special:Newpages, nor do articles created from redirects. Sure these things will pop up on Special:Recentchanges but if it survives for about five minutes it will have slipped through most fingers until somebody stumbles upon it which can take a very long time.
I am posting this method here, not to encourage people to actually use it as a way of creating vanity articles without seeing them listed on VfD, but I want to ask: Is there any good way to detect this, and is it possible to modify the Newpages page to detect articles being created out from redirects? Sjakkalle 06:56, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
What does the 'k' mean in search results? For example, if I put 'global dimming' in the search field and press the 'Search' button, the first result shows:
Relevancy: 100.0% - 8.8k (1321 words)
I see 8.8k. I know that 'k' for kilo means '1000', but one thousand what? Bobblewik (talk) 00:51, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
i have changed the default for this from "k" to "KB" which is hopefully more clear. if anyone has a better suggestion, you can create/edit MediaWiki:Searchsize, which would look something like:
$1KB ($2 words)
and put whatever there. — kate
I've noticed that right aligned graphics don't seem to be placed correctly. I use Firefox 1.0.4. You can see an example here: Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Star_Wars in the "Star Wars News" section, the graphic overlaps the text on the top side. Similarly, here: Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Biography in the "featured article" area where the Isaac Asimov article currently is, the graphic overlaps text on the top side.
Is this a known issue? Or is this something new? -- Wolf530 04:48, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
Are there any plans to let us make the Random Page button have further options, such as filtering to
-- Nova Cygni 20:30, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
I am wondering how the special utility pages, such as Special:Uncategorizedpages, Special:Ancientpages, and Special:Shortpages, get updated. Currently it has been several weeks since they were updated and almost everything listed on these pages has been dealt with. Is the updating on an automatic schedule? If so what interval is it set to? Or are they only refreshed when a developer gets around to it? For a period a few months ago the pages were being updated once every 24 hours, which was extremely useful. How big is the downside to this? How big a problem would updating these pages once a week be? Could the fast moving ones, like Shortpages and Uncategorizedpages, be set to update more often than the comparatively slow moving ones, like Wantedpages and Deadendpages? - SimonP 02:53, May 21, 2005 (UTC)
I made a fairly big edit on an article (added a couple of sections, cleaned up the text, added an image) and followed it up with a minor edit (changed a couple of words). The first edit doesn't show up in the history, but my minor edit shows up with both changes in the diff. Because my minor edit summary is something like "Cleaned up the text a little bit", I am understandably a bit concerned. Is this a problem with the database servers that will fix itself over time? Thanks, Death phoenix 16:53, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
I have had experience of the first one (entries are temporarily omitted from the history list). There is also a third problem. When the page Strategic bombing during World War II was moved it lost its history see Talk. I think it happened to another page I was monitoring (unfortunately I have forgotten which one), when it was moved twice in quick succession (eg due to a typo in the first move). Perhaps it too is a bug caused by master slave caching problems. Philip Baird Shearer 12:47, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
OK, on the page film distributors, there is some introductory text at the top and then a list of 7 companies under the heading "Articles..." There is no separate edit attached to the list, just edit this page at the top. But when I click on edit this page, all I get is the text from the top. So, how do I add companies to the distributors' list? Why is this locked?
Whoa - I just clicked Show preview, and film distributors is all in red? Why? Go to the main page and choose Culture, then choose Cinema, and you'll see there *is* an article active and headed film distributors. Why doesn't my URL connect to that? Also, I did something when I found that, and somehow ended up with a blue film distributor (single, not plural), and this is a whole different page with a whole different definition of the same thing. Same goes for Culture and Cinema. What's the deal here - I'm on the same site, but getting sent different places for the same topic...
Also, how do you change an incorrect article header once it's left "red" status and gone "blue"? On the same page, if I want to change 20th Century Fox to the correct Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corp., how do I do it? If I go to the 20th Century Fox page and choose edit this page, I can edit the text but not the title. On other pages where there *is* an [edit] option for specific Article titles, I can change the title on the list but then it goes to "red" and the link to the article is broken rather than having the correction made. So, what to do here??
Oh, and, PS - How come the *latest* post sinks to the *bottom* of the thread list? I've never seen that on a website before.
Carbuncle 19May05 ++++
Thanks. The site seems to be more complex than I thought at first glance, or at any rate the editing process is. Your citations demonstrate that, but also clarify what I've been running into and how to deal with them. Will get back if I hit another wall.
---buncle, a couple hours later.
Can this be fixed ? There are two Category:Philippine writers The other one is accessible from the redirect of List of Philippine Writers. Please merge. Thanks.-- Jondel 06:44, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
I've created a template for use with Template:Infobox Company. My template, Template:Revenue generates a specific agreed upon format, for usage see Template talk:Revenue. My question is whether a template being passed as a parameter to another template would be too large a load for the servers? Is this technically too taxing? — oo64eva (Alex) ( U | T | C) @ 17:51, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
I've been looking for a way of dynamically retrieving a wikipedia article as an HTML fragment, so that it might be included, say, in a web page.
This seems a rather obvious need - any web site quoting a wikipedia article must do this somehow! Having conducted a reasonably wide search I have found that by using the "export" special page, wikipedia will produce an article in raw output format, wrapped in XML; but there are only a few scripts (php mainly) to convert wiki format to HTML.
So does anyone know of other ways this can be done, or is there something obvious I have missed? Something like an xsl stylesheet to transform the export XML, a vi/vim/sed script or a general algorithm would be really useful... allegedly.
Cheers
Raad--
131.111.21.21
11:43, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
The Template:Otheruses is incompatible with the "disambiguated primary topic" disambiguation style that has recently found its way into Wikipedia:Disambiguation. I recognize that it is incumbent upon those who opt for this disambiguation style to go and fix all of the erroneous links that it creates, but in many cases (i.e. Analog), these links number in the hundreds and take a very long time to sift through. -- Smack ( talk) 20:48, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
I think wrong title problem has a very simple fix. Instead of telling human readers what the title is supposed to read, you can let the Mediawiki to serve the correct title instead.
For example, if Mediawiki sees the wrongtitle template such as {{wrongtitle|title=C++}}, it simply exports: <h1 class="pagetitle">C++</h1>. If it sees {{wrongtitle|title=Chu nôm}}, it shall export: <h1 class="pagetitle">Chu nôm</h1>.
If there's a wrongtitle template, instead of going to the Server Side Includes program, you can simply assign the title variable to the value of {{{title}}}. I don't think it is impossible, isn't it? -- Toytoy 01:46, May 18, 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone know of an easy way (tool, script etc) that I can get a list of all articles in a category, including its subcategories (and, recursively, their subcategories etc)? — Matt Crypto 13:22, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
Analogous with http://www.wikipedia.org , we should make some permanent PR for the Wikimania conference on the front page from now on until the conference, which will secure more publicity. Alternatively, we could also use MediaWiki:Sitenotice like this
The first International Wikimedia Conference will take place in Frankfurt 4.- 8 August!
[[Image:Wikimania-468x60-en.png|100px]] The first '''[http://www.wikimania.org International Wikimedia Conference]''' will take place in [[Frankfurt]] [[August 4|4.]]-[[August 8|8 August]]!
For some unknown reason, when using Internet Explorer for visiting Wikipedia, another font is displayed instead of the usual (in my case, at least) "Trebuchet MS". IE is somehow mapping Wikipedia's specified font to some other one which so far I have been unable to identify (a narrow, tall font with no serifs, that is also very difficult to read). The task of identifying the font is further complicated by the fact that when printing or converting the page to a PDF (PDF stores the names of the font outlines it uses), the font is changed once again.
A sample of the font that is being shown:
File:Narrow-sample.gif
Does anyone know what could be causing this issue? Thank you in advance for your help.
Mfolozi
02:15, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
10qwerty
17:26, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Apparently, Nauseam moved Nintendo to Nintendo Company Ltd., but for some reason it ended up at Nintendo Co. Ltd.. I moved Nintendo Co. Ltd. back to Nintendo. Now, the articles content is at Nintendo but its only history is "Nintendo moved to Nintendo Company Ltd." by Nauseam. Nintendo Company Ltd.'s history is "Nintendo Company Ltd. moved to Nintendo" also by Nauseam. Nintendo Co. Ltd.'s history is "Nintendo Co. Ltd. moved to Nintendo" by me. No history of the actual article. wtf? ✏ OvenFresh ² 02:00, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
I try to add this image from the commons to Pavlov's House, but keep on getting errors presumably due to the russian language image name. Any suggestions? Should i rename the image? -- Chris 73 Talk 21:13, May 15, 2005 (UTC)
I have a strange problem, several articles does not load in Firefox, but they load in IE. I rund MS Windows XP professional, 512 MB RAM on a laptop. Have tried to shut down the PC but the problem is still there. The articles I have problems with are Rail transport in Norway and Aung San, the Burmese freedom fighter. Have used Wikipedia for almost a year and has not seen something like this before. Anyone having a clue? Ulflarsen 13:44, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
On the above history page, if one scrolls down to the very bottom, look at the IP address. What's wrong with it?-- 217.137.90.125 06:49, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#page not updating. I can see that the edit is in the history, but it does not show up on the page, and a "null" edit does not fix it. Any developers about? -- Rick Block 03:04, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
I've been using pipes to coerce the sorting of certain articles on their category pages. However, first noticed this evening, if I add a pipe to an existing categorization nothing changes on the category page. Articles newly added to the category do show up and are sorted as expected. What gives? — B.Bryant 09:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, but I couldn't figure out where I should send this information. You have a section on Decision Tables and you are kind enough to have a link at the end to an old web site of mine, www.logic-gem.com and a page at that site. That domain is now pointing to my current company as we are preparing to release a Windows version of LogicGem, our automated Decision Table processor. At the present time a preview version of the product is available along with the information you are referrng to. You might want to check out:
http://www.catalyst.com/products/logicgem/index.html
Thank you,
Cary Harwin President/CEO Catalyst Development Corporation cary@catalyst.com
I love Wikipedia and use it very frequently. However, it does not work well on my Treo 650 PDA's Blazer browser. I have tried turning off image loading on the browser, but it still does not look very good. Are there any plans to create a text-only version or a PDA version of wikipedia?
Hi, you might visit my website, Qwikly. -- Alterego
I cannot delete articles from my watchlist using the "display and edit the complete list" page. The attempt repeatedly times out with the "wikimedia web server didn't return any response to your request" error. Using the "watch" and "unwatch" links on articles works fine. – Smyth\ talk 11:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This now works, except that when the new watchlist comes up, the header looks like this:
Removing requested items from watchlist... (License plates in the US and Canada) (Mother) (Vehicle excise duty)done. You have 50 pages on your watchlist (not counting talk pages); you can display and edit the complete list.
Apart from the bad formatting, the article count is out of date. It should say 47 pages, as it does after a refresh.
As has been said by others, what is badly needed is a [remove] link on the main watchlist page itself. – Smyth\ talk 12:27, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This [19] uploaded photo used to be something completely different (an image of a xenon flash lamp) before the cartoon image was uploaded over it. Why can't I revert it??-- Deglr6328 06:32, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
All right, I think I figured out what happened. Image:Flash.gif was uploaded by User:Abhilashkk on Dec 9, 2004. On Mar 11, 2005, it was nominated on IfD, then deleted on Mar 19. Two months later, on May 31, User:Gmaxwell (appropriately) uploaded commons:Image:Flash.gif, since there was no local file with that name, although I would have used a much more specific filename. On June 8, User:MegaSpy21 uploaded Image:Flash.gif—he probably should have checked Image:Flash.gif first, which would have shown the Commons version. His local image (the icon) prevents the Commons version (the flash) from showing, although it is still intact. I'm not sure what the policy is for what should be done now. — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:54, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC) [updated — Knowledge Seeker দ 06:43, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)]
The image source template {{ Image source}}, is being widely placed on talk pages at the moment. Like many other talk page templates it generates a header. Proper use of this template is through the subst: mechanism, but inevitably many users are not substituting it, but just inserting a template.
If the template isn't inserted with subst:, when a user clicks on the "edit section" link, they don't edit the section of their talk page, but the original template. This has resulting in it being commented on, and blanked.
Besided trying to get users of this template to use subst, or protecting the template, is there anything else that can be done to prevent this sort of thing? I'm thinking of making some templates always subst. Zeimusu | (Talk page) 23:48, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Why can't I log in? A message "incorrect password" appears, even though the password is correct. Fenice
Maybe put a link to "search commons", "search other languages" etc on the standard search page? - SV| t 00:20, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The "small" tag <small> doesn't work in my IE when I have the text font set to "large". Anyone knows why and if it will be fixed by the Wikipedia software some day?
If not, is there a better tag to show smaller text?
Thank you -- Fred- Chess 11:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've made a little program that goes and retrieves my watchlist for me. However, every once in a while, I don't get any response from Wikipedia. Error code is 0, just no content returned. No headers either. Here's my request:
GET /wiki/Special:Watchlist HTTP/1.0 Host: en.wikipedia.org Connection: close User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4 Cookie: enwikiUserID=93732;enwikiUserName=Ambush+Commander;enwikiToken=(INSERT VALID WIKI TOKEN HERE)
Is there something wrong with this request header? Why do I not seem to get any output at all? (By the way, I'm using PHP SimpleTest's virtual browser to handle the transaction.
At least, partially. A couple of article I have had no problems deleting, but I have tried at least ten times on both Danza Slap and Ben Wyrosdick, and keep getting an ERROR message when I attempt it. Rick K 22:54, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)
I'm not encountering any problems deleting, but if this happens to you just blank the page, protect, and list it in a new list on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Old with a note explaining why it needs to be deleted. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 18:06, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Anyone know how long this will last?
An hour?
A day?
A week?
The advertised mailing list doesn't give any info at all.
MPF 21:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It seems that every Wikipedia article reinvents the wheel when it comes to how to do footnotes. Just a quick review of recent featured articles shows at least half a dozen different ways of handling footnotes (some more successful than others). I think editors would be much more inclined to use footnotes to cite their sources if there was a straightforward way to do it. I am familiar with Wikipedia:Footnotes, Wikipedia:Footnote2, Wikipedia:Footnote3, Wikipedia:Footnote4, etc. Clearly we need a better way to handle this problem. Perhaps a technical solution would be possible? Any thoughts on this? Kaldari 20:07, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Will this ever happen? I make maps of thousands of locations, just make a map and plot in red dot. Easy to generate automatically, I think. How long I continue make simple maps?
-- Fred- Chess 11:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
If I want to move some GFDL images that I had uploaded here on Wikipedia on to the Commons, would the best thing to do be simply to upload them again in commons and have the ones here deleted? I assume that links would remain intact? If I do that, would the originals be Speedy Delete material?
Thanks, — Asbestos | Talk 18:00, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I created a wiki using mediawiki. It was working perfectly and i left it some weeks by itself. After some time it gave me the message:
Sorry! The wiki is experiencing some technical difficulties, and cannot contact the database server. Too many connections
I am sure that the wiki is not having too many visitors, as it´s unkonwn. Any ideas what caused this? Thanks...
Alexandre
Where are changes to template behavior announced? Not Template History; I mean MediaWiki or CSS changes which affect templates. ( SEWilco 14:05, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC))
Could you please review the definition of the Marginal Rate of Transformation in the Welfare Economics section. It should be the Marginal Rate of Technical Substitution when it refers to the mix of factors of production used in a particular production process. It is the slope the isoquant. On the other hand, the Marginal Rate of Transformation is the slope of the Production Possibilities Frontier.
moved to reference desk at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk#Marginal_Rate_of_Transformation
Last night, a number of pages appeared in Category:Stub when they were edited to change from {{msg:stub}} to {{stub}} in advance of 1.5. While it was unsurprising that the first edit since Category:Stub was added to the template in January populated the category, they had not previously been listedin Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Stub (which has less than 500 entries thanks to the Stub sorting project). Any ideas as to why this should have happened? Susvolans (pigs can fly) 11:54, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I have just seen the "Create account / log in" despite having "remember my account" set. Tried to login, got:
The password you entered is incorrect. Please try again.
Tried emailing new password and got:
Error sending mail: There is no e-mail address recorded for user "Chris Q".
What's hapened to my account! -- 213.38.213.226 10:41, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC) (Chris Q)
I had the same problem, although I was more than happy to blame it on an off-WP conversation I had with an admin. Perhaps I was too quick in my conclusion(s). I was too impatient to wait very long tho, and requested a new pwd, and was immediately able to log in using that new pwd. Tomer TALK 11:39, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)
I was viewing the Nikola_Tesla page when I encountered the language, SHIT FUCK NIGGER WHORE SLUT or something similar. I tried to revert the page, but there was nothing there to revert. There were also no recent changes to the page. I can only assume that WP's servers have been hacked in some manner. Mbstone 07:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It has been observed that the behavior of a template has changed. Where is a description of this change? It used to be that a template automatically created a wiki end-of-line, so an implied end-of-paragraph could appear. This was observed when a template tried to include the '#' numbered list token, as the entire list used to have to be on a single line because an actual newline would create a paragraph break which would start a new list. Apparently template behavior changed recently, as some weakly-formatted articles started showing material grouped in a single paragraph. ( SEWilco 03:44, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC))
I have occasionally seen references to the accessibility of Wikipedia. Out of interest, I tested todays featured article with access valet at ( http://valet.webthing.com/access/) and it failed. Criticisms included:
I know enough about accessibility to know that an good site can fail the test and a bad site can pass. So my test may not mean much. I do worry that an extremely high proportion of Wikipedia articles contain templates. The use of 2D formats are regarded as 'not a good thing' for accessibility.
In any case, I wonder if we could increase accessibility? We could at least discuss it when we promote one style over another, or modify software. Comments welcome. Bobblewik (talk) 23:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I just added the Babel thing to my user page and I am having problems. I typed {{Babel-3|en|es-3|ta-2}} because I am a native English speaker, am proficcient at Spanish and can speak and understand Tamil. The problem is that it loads fine for english and spanish but fails for Tamil. if you would like to see what happens, please visit my user page. Please provide me assistance as to what I need to do to fix this. Thanks. -- R6MaY89 22:55, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC)
How many gigabytes are we talking about with articles without media and how big is it with media?
My nephew was around and he added some stuff to wikipedia, because he thinks he's funny. It's on this IP (he added Davy Buntinx and Jonathan Quarem), can you please delete these posts? Thank you very much!
Anyone who's a frequenter of WP:RFC would have noticed that it's regularly a lengthy mess of old proposals, and most people only read the top few and comment on those (and watch them if appropriate). Presently, cleanup consists of copy/pasting a bunch of old ones to the archives whenever they get too long. Ideally, people unlist RFCs when they no longer apply, but in practice that rarely happens.
It would be useful to employ a bot to do this work. The process would be simple - once per week, examine all RFC entries and check when they were last edited. If they haven't been edited for two weeks, they can be archived, because that means the discussion has died (and, hopefully, been resolved).
An alternate proposal would be to have them time out one month after creation, on grounds that by that point, the discussion would have gone stale anyway.
Would anyone have a problem with this? It would make the page a lot more legible. R adiant _* 12:25, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
David Gerard wrote at WP:RFA in relation to the Zivinbudas request:
This got me wondering about whether as a measure to deal with this type of situation it would be possible to block anonymous editors from any given IP range, but still allow registered users to edit (unless otherwise blocked). The block wouldn't be permanent thing, just long enough for the intended user to get the message. Those trying to edit anonymously from that range would see a notice along the lines of:
I guess this isn't currently technically possible, but would it be something worth investigating further and/or requesting? Thryduulf 08:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've been pointed to an open feature request: MediaWiki bug 550 "Blocks on anonymous users only". Thryduulf 10:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This is a rather strange bug... if you move Template:foo to wherever (for instance when userfying a template after WP:TFD discussion), Talk:foo is moved along. R adiant _* 08:17, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)
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Okay, I've been getting stupid error messages all day, but this seems to be the last straw. First I created a new article, then it was gone again -- just an empty page. I wanted to try again from scratch, so I decided to delete the empty page. But I couldn't -- "internal error", it said. What the hell is going on here? Can anyone retrieve the text? <KF> 21:47, May 31, 2005 (UTC)
I was just thinking: if I wanted to send an email to someone and make it look as if it was from someone else, Wikipedia is the perfet tool to do it. I'll explain (for this purpose, I'm Eve, I want to send an email to Bob as if it came from Alice - see Alice and Bob).
Q.E.D.--> Energy ( talk) 07:18, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
Well, I don't know how to do that, so Eve likely wouldn't either. If we're talking about Hackers Supreme, obviously they don't need WP. Anyway, is it actually possible to send emails from any address?--> Energy ( talk) 07:58, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
I'm not being sure of myself. I'm simply saying that if there is one human being (me) who can't, there is likely to be another. That other human being could be Eve.--> Energy ( talk) 06:19, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hi,
I was wondering if there's any way for me to download all the entries (just the name) in wikipedia. For example, the entry for "condoleeza rice" - I just want to download "condoleeza rice" and nothing else. Basically, I want all the article names that are in the wikipedia.
Any help/suggestion appreciated!!!!
When someone presses edit, a flag should be flipped so that if someone else presses edit they get a simple notice at the top of the page that it may be in use and when the edit button was pressed. When the person presses save, the flag will be flipped back.
It will also flip back to normal after a specific time period with no "preview" button presses, like half an hour.
It will still be editable with or without the flag. It will just have a notice.
This seems pretty obvious. - Omegatron 20:00, May 30, 2005 (UTC)
For some time now, there's been an apparent problem with the page history on Germany; this version always appears as the second-most-recent, producing some very odd-looking results when one looks at the most-recent diff. Anyone have any idea what's causing this, or better yet, how to fix it...? Thanks. Alai 05:45, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
I created the Basket Case disambiguation page and as a follow-up tried to link several pages to the Basket Case (song) page. However, on some of those pages "Basket Case" only appears within Template:Green Day, and I have already changed the link in that template. Still the wrong link shows up in the Basket Case "What links here". It seems there is nothing I can do about that. What is wrong? <KF> 22:37, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
How often is the file links section updated? If you take a look at Image:Flag of Europe.png there are hundreds of file links, most of which were through {{ MEP-stub}} or {{ EU-stub}} and they're now using Image:European flag.png (there are 4-5 different versions of the same flag at the moment on wikipedia) but the file links haven't updated at all, as far as I can see, any ideas? -- Thanks! -- Joolz 15:32, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
Hello, I just noticed that the Lou Dobbs is not alphabetizing properly in the People from Idaho category. The article is listed under "L" rather than "D."
The cat code seems to be correct... and it is listed properly in other categories it belongs to (like 1945 Births). All other members of the Idaho category seem to be in the correct spot. - Boisemedia 08:30, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
See:
Category:Lists of songs.
Yesterday I edited the article
List of Number 1 albums (UK), so as to have it sorted under "1" instead of "L" in the category. Afterwards there appear two references in the Category-list. Since it's 24h ago, I dont think it has to do with server-delay. Possibly related to way of my editing: I was doing a manual sweep, using two browsers (MS IE; both used my user-name) alternatively. I can live with the situation, but it's not as expected. Anyone an idea, or solution? Bye, -
DePiep
15:31, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
Is there any kind of software package available in which one could either 1) convert an MS Word file to Wikipedia markup, or 2) format text (for example, bold, italic, underline, etc) for Wikipedia by highlighting and picking from a menu, like typical word processing software. (Preferably something that runs under Mac OS X, but I can also run WXP.)
I want to write some taxonomic articles, which require lots of italic type for species names. Having to manually type in apostrophes each time is ergonomically inefficient to say the least.
Peter
Ok, I'm extremely confused as to why namespaced pages are suddenly appearing with blue backgrounds. Did I miss something? Oh look, I notice as I type that this edit page has a blue background as well. What's going on? Sorry if I'm being extremely unobservant and stupid etc. AdamM 18:49, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
As a accounted user I have the ability to move pages. However on some pages I can't see the move button. These happen to be Wikipedia and Helium, they are both {{ featured}} so I thought that had something to do with it. You know, the best articles shouldn't need moving. But I go to other featured articles, namely Buddhism and Emacs, have the move button there. What's the deal? -- metta, The Sunborn 16:39, 24 May 2005 (UTC)