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From my understanding of templates, their use on any page increases the time taken for that page to be assembled from the database. Navigational templates are continuously being refined, and often, people decide to shunt off repeatedly used parts of a template into a separate template. This wrapping can take on extremes where (I have seen) three templates are folded inside one another. Is this going to cause a performance problem for Wikipedia in the long term, and should it therefore be discouraged? Should a guideline be written to address this question? - Samsara ( talk • contribs) 23:12, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
When you're at a diff of an old edit you've made, there's a new option: "undo." What does this do? I tried it out in the sandbox but it said it couldn't undo the edit due to intermediate edit conflicts or something.
Also, the footer at the bottom of the page, in Safari 2.0.4, is far wider than it used to be. On all pages the horizontal arrow stretches farther than the text, which is out of the ordinary. -- Fbv 65 e del / ☑t / ☛c || 22:21, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Ah! I still don't understand how it works, but now I am wondering why that signpost hasn't been delivered to me yet! Prodego talk 23:06, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, I understand the function now, but it still doesn't work for me. -- Fbv 65 e del / ☑t / ☛c || 23:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I wrote this feature. What account you use has no bearing on whether or not the undo will succeed. undos will work if the software can figure out how to unambiguously revert a single not-on-top edit. This means that the edit to be undone needs to be the LAST unreverted edit to make changes to that particular paragraph. I'm considering making the (undo) button only appear if one is possible. — Werdna talk criticism 07:07, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I had on my user talk page
<nowiki>{{welcome}}</nowiki>
The WinBot Bot turned the "welcome" into "subst:welcome". That seems wrong. But I guess a work-around is for me to do more like what I have done in this posting. I.e. break up the template code into separate nowiki sections. Is that going to be the recommended course-of-action for the foreseeable future, or will the Bot be taught to understand nowiki context? I could believe recognizing that context would be very difficult. And perhaps occasionally inappropriate.-- SportWagon 15:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
<code><nowiki>{{helpme}}</nowiki></code>
A further experiment suggests the problem, per se, has not been fixed. However, the incorrect substitution will not happen unless the process which activates the Bot first finds a genuine "welcome" template without "subst" on the same user talk page. I.e. my experimental "bad" use of the welcome template, caused the "subst" to be added in my nowiki non-use. My suggested obfuscation for nowiki did "protect" another example, too, as one would expect. So this will, in general, be a minor problem for people who have incorrectly used templates, and the revision log does show what is done, so this is mostly just FYI now.-- SportWagon 17:25, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I found three links to elementary schools on one page which are directed to other elementary schools in various parts of the country (rather than within the county.) How can I kill that link, but keep the text in red; as though it's a dead link?
Sorry for the laymanspeak.
If you want to see specifically what I mean, go to "Loudoun County Public Schools" and under elementary schools, click "Horizon Elementary". Note how you're now in BC, Canada.
Hi, for people who are using classic skin, there is no hint that an article is a featured one, because the little star in the right upper edge is not visible. Is ist possible to fix that? -- Nina 10:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, I will try that. But I thought that it is of general interest to indicate featured articles, so I hoped that someone could fix that for every classic skin-user. -- Nina 13:16, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I see the problem. A category instead of the star would solve that. There is a lot of discussion on Template talk:Featured article, and I didn't read all this to find out if they have decided about a category already. -- Nina 13:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I am having trouble viewing my userpage. All I can see is in very small font up the top of the page:
<script type="text/javascript" src="/?title=-&action=raw&smaxage=0&gen=js
I cannot see anything apart from that including the edit this page etc. buttons. It was perfectly visible yesterday. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you, Jam 01 06:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I can now see the page. Sorry for the inconvenience. Does anybody have any idea why it happened though? Thank you, Jam 01 06:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm attempting to use an external editor (any of the several that I have) for editing. I can get the data from the edit box window and into the editor, but it is input as a text file rather than *.wiki (The instructions for vim, for example, are to program vim to autodetect a file of type *.wiki so that the markup language will be used) Is there a special way to pass this this data on as *.wiki? SFinside 04:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
First, let me say that I find about 15% of the above comprehensible. I know this is a technical discussion page, but please "dumb down" any replies. My background is as an old 8-bit BBS sysop, the web was new when I was in school, I have used Windows and Mac computers at work (desktop publishing, GIS, cartography, &c.), but had little to do with maintenance, and I got my first "real" computer (Windows 98, which I am still using on a salvaged computer) a little over two years ago. I am relatively new to Wikipedia.
Here's the problem (and I'm not sure if this is the right place): I had a large talk page open for editing when I lost the connection to my (dial-up) server and was logged off. (It may have been the other way around.) I decided to call it a night, and when I checked the talk page later, a chunk of the section I was editing was deleted by an IP address associated with my server. I was not in the process of deleting the missing material, and nothing that I had added was saved.
I can understand a dropped connection saving the work in progress as it was, but why would anything have been deleted?
A problem that may be associated with this one is that sometimes the same large talk page will not load completely in my browser (Firefox), although my status bar reports "Done". Several attempts (clearing the cache in between) resolves the problem, but I have to pay international rates (the price of living in paradise) to access the internet.
What I do to get around the problem is that I usually compose any edits offline and paste them in. However, I am just learning how to use the interface, so I spend a lot of time on formatting. I am also going to archive the page in question now that I know how.
Comments please.
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Is there any libraries for bot developing on Macs? I know a Python library out there, but if any Mac-friendly library such as Automator or AppleScript extensions, Safari helpers... available? Yao Ziyuan 09:51, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Is it possible to grab a random page starting from a given category, e.g. random singles, actors, politicians, etc.? Chris cheese whine 01:16, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
This was just posted on my talk page by Acalamari ( talk · contribs):
I don't know a thing about this sort of business, and I need to head out right now, so I am bringing this to you. Can someone follow up on this? Thanks. -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 19:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Which image is it that is causing the problem? Without knowing this, the discussion is a little pointless. -- TheParanoidOne 13:36, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Your virus scanner picked up an infected file. According to the book "Troubleshooting, Maintaining & Repairing PCs (Second Edition)" (ISBN 0-07-913732-6), Section area "Virus Symptoms and Countermeasures" part "Virus Myths" (Page #1329), and I quote (from the bottom):
An image is a data file. Images cannot have macros. An image is only loaded, not run. Those three statements sum up the paragraph of text above. There is nothing to worry about. But...
If you need any other information, contact me. Don't forget to help me (details on user and user talk pages).
Computer and Cricket master,
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Cricket Boy
03:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello everyone, I was hoping you could help me out with this little problem I've been having. I am unable to access Wikipedia when I use Firefox or IE on my computer. The strange thing is, it works fine in the AOL browser. I use Firefox practically all the time so this is quite frustrating as I visit Wikipedia quite often. I have tried uninstalling all the add-ons in Firefox, but seeing as the same problem occurs in IE, I'm pretty sure that isn't the cause. I don't have the knowledge to even guess what could be wrong. All I know is that I made no major changes to either browser that I think could cause this. Thanks to anyone that can help me out!
Cereal Killer 07:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Nothing loads at all. It stays blank in Firefox and continues to show the little "Loading..." message. In IE, after about a minute of not doing anything, it takes me to a "Were you looking for..." page which just lists the link to Wikipedia.
Cereal Killer 08:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I think I know the problem. You probably have your internet options set incorrectly. If it is Windows, try Windows Update, as it may patch IE. You may also need to patch Firefox, but I don't know how, as I don't even know what the company is called. As for me, that sounds pretty weird, as I am using Internet Explorer to edit this thread. The version # is 6.0.2900.2180. In addition, because you can only access it via AOL, your standard IP address may be having problems with WikiPedia, as AOL uses several different IPs. Of course, I cannot be certain, as I have never experienced this problem. Oh, and "unable to access" probably means just that, the browser cannot find the page on the Internet.
Signing off, as a cricket and computer expert,
--Cricket Boy 01:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
This may be a perennial question, but I didn't see the answer anywhere. On wider screens, sometimes left-aligned and sometimes right-aligned images will bunch up and pull away from the side of the page, creating a gap with no text. I ran into a particularly bad example tonight, on a featured article, no less. Four images stacked up, consuming over half of my 1920px wide browser. I've seen case-by-case fixes that sometimes work, but they never seem conclusive (eg. even if I fix an article now, if I upgrade to a 30" Dell/Apple display, will it break again?). Is there a good way to definitively fix this issue for all possible resolutions? -- Interiot 09:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
This will be the result:
Lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum too lazy to see how lorem ipsum continues.
Lorem ipsum.
More lorem ipsum.
Anyways, that article is now formatted using mixed alignement. But this can also be useful
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11:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Or you could put the images in a table, but that might not look so good on the article; it has a lot of images on it. JD talk 11:49, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
You might want to read WP:BUNCH. -- Rick Block ( talk) 16:38, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I understand, in general, why the first letter of an article title is automatically converted to uppercase:
But none of these considerations apply when the first letter is not a Latin character. It is a continual annoyance in the math and science areas of WP that we cannot have articles starting with a lowercase Greek letter; in these cases, the letter in question is never uppercased; it would be quite wrong. Moreover, the cases may even be used distinctively -- for a long time I've been about to write an article Real Soon Now on W. Hugh Woodin's Ω-logic (for a description see Woodin, W. Hugh (2001). "The Continuum Hypothesis, Part II" (PDF). Notices of the AMS. 48 (7): 681–690. But there's an entirely different notion called ω-logic (see for example Weaver, George (Summer 1992). "Unifying Some Modifications of the Henkin Construction". Notre Dame Journal of Formal Logic. 33 (3): 450–460.)
So in my opinion, in en.wiki at least, the rule should be modified so that articles beginning with Latin letters are uppercased but those beginning with non-Latin letters are not. There might be an exception for near-Latin letters like the Polish l-with-a-slash-through-it, or umlauted vowels (actually I'd be happy if just Greek letters were excepted from uppercasing). Obviously things would have to be different on Greek WP, but surely the software is agile enough to allow that, or easily could be. -- Trovatore 07:25, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Twice recently I've accidentally pressed "Enter" while in the edit summary box and saved the page before I meant to. I don't think this ever happened to me before the recent (and very welcome!) changes to the summary box. Am I just becoming more butterfingered, or has some change been made along the lines of "save page" becoming a default option that it wasn't before? -- Blisco 10:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Could not the default action/button then be made the "Preview" button? btw kudos to whoever was responsible for implementing Edit summary previews :) Zun aid © Please rate me at Editor Review! 14:47, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm writing to complain about shoddy SVG versions of raster graphics being uploaded, then shoved into articles. Sometimes SVG versions are okay; often they're not. I'm not going to cite specific examples because this will only lead to people defending on a case-by-case basis and taking their work personally. This is a general problem.
Don't download PNG images to your local machine, run them through some sort of car washer, and upload an inferior SVG. You aren't actually achieving anything; the engine will render a PNG to most browsers anyway. You're not saving any storage, since the PNG remains -- and deleting it won't solve anything except to upset the uploader. We're not so strapped for cash that deleting 100 Kb will put us in the money.
SVG is a problem format. It has its advantages, yes. But it handles fonts poorly. It can be used well but I don't like some of the work I see. I create some graphics with a vector editor, Macromedia FreeHand, and rasterize an exported EPS in Adobe Photoshop. If you want to convert the EPS to SVG, I'll gladly make that available. But if you try to re-draw vectors from a raster image, you either need to do a great deal of unnecessary work or you mess it up.
PNG is a fine format for images; unlike GIF, it is completely free libre and there are no fears of Unisys coming to bite our balls over it. If you have nothing better to do with your time and the amazing tools on your desktop, go ahead and see if you can squeeze a few bytes losslessly out of existing PNGs. Please do not replace them with SVGs unless you can show real benefit and no harm. Thank you. John Reid ° 09:27, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Note that you can use PNGs or GIFs in place of autogenerated SVG thumbnails where the behavior is currently faulty, like so:
Let me stress: I'm not talking about the preferred choice for original work for someone with tools that can create both formats. In some cases, SVG may be better; I can't say -- I don't have those tools. They aren't common.
I'm only upset when I see people coming along, taking an existing PNG, uploading an inferior SVG imitation, then forcing it to replace the better-quality PNG. You cannot do a straightforward conversion of a raster PNG to a true vector SVG. In some cases, the creator of the PNG may have left the community; nothing you can do about that. If you put enough time and trouble into the re-creation, you may come up with an acceptable SVG; that's fine too.
But please do not butcher PNGs into inferior SVGs when the creator is available! You -- yes, you -- can always contact me, if it is my work under consideration. I will be happy to make available vector format workfiles for any PNG that was created entirely in this fashion. You can convert to SVG to your heart's content. This is fine. I only want to express how annoying it is when I spend hours producing a beautiful graphic and somebody else comes along in 15 minutes, does a crappy conversion, then pushes my work aside. I put it here into the common bin and license under GFDL; anyone can edit, yes. But please make it better, not worse. Okay? John Reid ° 07:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
All things are rarely equal. I hardly ever do a straightforward conversion from vector to raster; I twiddle and tweak in Photoshop. Sometimes, the Photoshop side of the job is major, although the result may look as if it came right out of FreeHand. SVG stinks for rasters. I'm not sure I agree that vectors have any real practical use to the reader anyway; most browsers can't display SVG (or any other vector format) directly and MediaWiki serves a PNG anyway.
In any case, I don't have the niche tools that output SVG. Like other graphics professionals, I work in the industry-standard EPS format. We may not like that format and we can grump around all day about how it's "not free" but it is widely supported. I'd be happy to upload EPS and let somebody try to convert to SVG. It's not allowed. John Reid ° 21:46, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I sympathize with John, the best version of an image should be presented to the reader. The creation of crappy SVG versions of uploaded PNGs rarely benefits anyone. If the SVG is actually superior then it should be used, but this seems to rarely be the case with SVGs created after the fact from uploaded raster images. A lower quality SVG might be linked from the PNG image description, but it should not replace the PNG simply because "vector graphics are better". The overriding consideration should be which version is better from the point of view of the reader. Dragons flight 04:36, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Great work. Put it into the appropriate article and that job is done. Then we can move on to the other shoddy SVG conversions. John Reid ° 21:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to propose we add a link to Wikipedia:Cheatsheet, in the editing-mode layout, next to the " Cancel | Editing help (opens in new window)" links. eg:
Friends of mine who only edit very occasionally, have expressed frustration concerning finding reminders for basic wikicode easily (eg piping links); and are either daunted-by or disdainful-of the size/complexity of the Help:Editing page.
Thoughts? -- Quiddity 06:25, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Seems to have strong support ( VP(proposal) archive), where or how do I ask for this to be implemented, or are there any objections or improvements? Please and Thanks! -- Quiddity 21:56, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Altered proposal resubmitted at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Replace "Editing help" with "Cheatsheet" link. Please comment there :) -- Quiddity 22:00, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I cannot seem to locate the source of the whitespace atop the Satveer Chaudhary article. It doesn't seem to come from extra line breaks, nor from the templates. Anyone care to investigate this further? Circeus 01:33, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Fixed [3]. -- Ligulem 13:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
What do <noinclude> and </noinclude> do? -- Shanedidona 19:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
ok. Thanks. :-) -- Shanedidona 19:48, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
What does <includeonly> do? Is there a page that talks about these tags? -- Shanedidona 19:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Charon-1,205km across is just the text ((hangon))- yes, in parentheses. If you go to the edit page, however, it's a redirect- and if you finish editing it it shows a successful redirect page- but if you (for some reason) typed in charon-1,205 km across, you would *not* be redirected, just see ((hangon))... we could probably delete that redirect altogether, fix it cleanly, but wtf? Cantras 17:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Has anyone ever experienced any problems with poor image alignment in Mozilla Firefox?
When I open the Newcastle Central station article in Firefox, two of the images (Newcastle_Central_Station.jpg and Newcastlestationext.jpg) overlap some of the article text. When I open it in IE, there is no overlap. AdorableRuffian 11:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Is this possible? I've noticed that various people keep recreating Category:2010 films (amongst others). It carries the somewhat confusing tense confusion "Films originally released in the year 2010." Pretty much every article that's been in it has been mostly rumour, or so scant on verifiable information that they've been deleted or repointed. Semantic arguments about including films which "were released in the future" aside, there won't be enough verifiable information on any film slated for release at that time for at least another year or so, so is it possible to prevent such categories from being recreated and repopulated any time soon? Chris cheese whine 19:04, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, all. I'm wondering if it is possible to request particular page sections via a php script. For instance, how might I include the (more or less) plaintext of a page's contents box or summary without all of the of the wikipedia chrome or the rest of the article? Possibly, dare I say it, with functioning links? I imagine such a mechanism exists, due to the neet-o wikipedia lookup finctionality in the Trillian chat client, but my best efforts have turned up very lttle in the way technical details for including wikipedia content on another page. I saw somebody mention using 'action=raw' in the url, but that seems to be only part of the answer, if any answer at all.
anyway, any help or direction as to where this question might be answered effectively are much appreciated
for the record, I looking to develop what amounts to a wikipedia skin/reader with some nifty browsing developments, not just to leech wikipedia's content. 69.114.196.13 18:43, 25 November 2006 (UTC)Mike Weber
-- 01:42, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
-- I am in no position to host my own wikipedia mirror, but action=render may indeed be handy (very possibly the tool I need). But is there any central repository for information about querying wikipedia? what types of parameters can be passed and the like? for instance, I see that there is a 'section' parameter that can be passed, but it only seems to work for edits. Were can I learn more about this sort of thing? (alternately an explanation of how to work the 'section' parameter or something like it would do too, in "give me a fish, but no fishing skills" sort of way). Thanks, and stay beautiful, folks.
4:41, 25 November 2006 (UTC) Mike Weber
As you all know, on category pages, each subcategory has a plus sign next to it, with which one can view that subcategory's next layer of nested subcategories. I've heard, however, from at least one user who's said that doesn't work properly for him; instead it stalls on "Loading" and doesn't actually produce a list. It works properly for me, however. Is this just an issue of needing to upgrade his javascript, or is there something that the technical team should look into? Thanks for any help. Bearcat 00:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
How do I put an image into a userbox just like the windows series from The Raven's Apprentice? I only know how to put text in. Please let me know on My Talk Page. Thanks, Ard0 22:48, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
{{userbox|orange|yellow|[[Image:Crystal kthememgr.png|40px]]|A userbox is a small box that looks like this.}}
which gives the userbox shown on the right then modify it to show the correct text and image.
Tra
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01:55, 25 November 2006 (UTC)I've discovered that the Classic skin (which I have used since time immemorial) and the slightly more common Monobook skin have a difference in how they vertically align inline images. I was passing through
Wikipedia:WikiProject Stargate and saw that the
glyph in the title there was way out of alignment with the rest of the line, as illustrated by this partial screenshot:
. I "fixed" it, but was then told by someone using Monobook that for him the fix had thrown the image out of alignment in the opposite direction:
. I don't know my way around CSS very well and so haven't found the root cause of this different behavior and haven't been able to fiddle my way around it blindly. Does anyone have advice on how I might resolve this?
Bryan
06:37, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
(The page has since been updated with an all-image banner, for reference the two versions where this problem first showed up are [4] and [5] Bryan 08:00, 24 November 2006 (UTC))
Something has happened with the links we have for coordinates. See most geographic articles, for example Milwaukee has a link to [6] where we used to find various online mapping tools to get an overview of the area, but all those pages have now been replaced with a variation of {{deletedpage}}. What happened? Sjakkalle (Check!) 10:26, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Great, just great. 1. Because I am now on DirecWay (with no other options for a server because I am in the deep woods) I cannot stay logged in *PERIOD*. 2. Before this I went to the trouble to take a photo of J. sambac in my yard, and I edited the size (bytes) for a quick load. I added it (5 months ago) to the Jasmine page. 3. Now the Wiki Police remove it, and I cannot stay logged on to put it back! It's not my fault Wikipedia has some glitch that won't recognize Direcway users, and yes I went to your help desk to no avail. Will someone PLEASE go to my website and get the pic: http://www.MagiaLuna.net/jsambac1.jpg and put it back on the darned page? The removed text under the pic read: "J.sambac in bloom along with an unopened bud. The flowers smell exactly like the tea." Please excuse my frustration. Thanks, and BTW I can't find my user page now?? And of course I logged in to post this and now I'm not logged in... Magialuna 20:34, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Been there, done that re: cookies enabled. Source? You mean my actual name? Uh uh. I took the pic, and I can put the HUGE unedited original digital photo on my website if no one believes me. License? Huh? Magialuna 21:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, dial up warning, lol. Here's the original pic: http://www.MagiaLuna.net/DSC_0001.JPG Magialuna 21:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes. Please use it. Thanks! Magialuna 19:36, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Magialuna, I think you were doubly frustrated and posted two questions in one section. Your image is OK as I understand, but it would have been fixed quicker if treated separately. As for your connnection, good luck! -- DLL .. T 20:08, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
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I've been around for a year and a half, was given admin chores, performed some history merges, and I still have no idea whatis going on here. I can see diffs in the history that don't appear when comparing diffs. Look at this diff] and then hit the next link. Look at the resulting diff, particularly the time gap between them. Then look at the history of the article. It skips ~30 edits made by others and attributes all their changes to an editor ~30+1 edits later. Since all of the edits do appear in the history if one compares diff by diff I guess it isn't too much of a concern, but I don't understand why it is doing this. I also have a personal concern as 25 of those 30 are mine, making a large expansion of a stub.— WAvegetarian• (talk) 12:54, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
How do you do this? I want all my userboxes to be on the right side of my user page, like the babel box. -- Kookoo275 23:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. -- Kookoo275 02:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
The pages Special:Deadendpages, Special:Uncategorizedpages, Special:Uncategorizedcategories and Special:Wantedcategories are created regularly and remain unchanged in the intervals. I understand that compiling these lists dynamically would take too much time, but once they exist, it shouldn't be too demanding to monitor changes to listed pages and remove those that no longer belong. This would make these special pages more useful, because currently it can be quite challenging to find anything in them that hasn't been fixed already. -- Derlay 00:29, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Every time I try to log in from my PC I get a prompt to download a file after I click log in. I do not have Use external editor checked in my user preferences and they shouldn't have an affect anyway, I think? Does anyone know what is wrong? 81.104.37.81 20:29, 22 November 2006 (UTC) (usually user:Lcarsdata)
I have a couple of users on Apple PC's who have (or currently are) seeing the text in articles displayed in Hindi or some Indo-Dravidian text.
I know I've turned this error off in the past but can't seem to remember how.
They are all using Tiger, and Safari. Problem does not come up in other browsers. Also seems to effect Craig's List and some few other sites.
Any help will be appreciated! Thanks
Merel O'Rourke (e-mail removed for privacy reasons) Wed 22 November 2006
⌘,
). Then click on the Appearance tab on top. At the bottom of the Appearance options you will see "Default Encoding." Set this to Unicode (UTF-8) and you shold be all set.—
WAvegetarian•
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13:40, 24 November 2006 (UTC)Why does the page say what it says at the top and yet this clearly newly registered user had his way with the article? BabuBhatt 15:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Wahkeenah 16:15, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
The usual pipe format is e.g. "[[scuba set|my old aqualung]]", as is well known. The trouble arises with inflections. In English, most inflected word forms have a bare-stem form, so linking from an inflected form is easy: e.g. "the [[cat]]'s tail"; "the [[patrol]]men were [[shovel]]ing seized kit into their incinerator."
The trouble comes with words where the bare stem is not a valid word. That occurs more in other languages, such as with nouns in Latin and Lithuanian and Icelandic, and with feminine and neuter words in Slavonic languages, and verbs in Romance languages, where in some inflected forms the end of the listed form drops out. That results in having to repeat the whole word at the link, e.g. "[[incineration|incinerator]]", "[[inflate|inflating]]". This is very common in some foreign Wikipedias, adding up to many megabytes of extra text. It would be useful to be able to write e.g. "[[incinerat|ing|or]]", "the star ξ [[Sagittari|us|i]]", "[[inflat|e|ing]]", instead. Anthony Appleyard 11:11, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
It would be useful if this feature was put into Wikipedia. If e.g.:-
#redirect [[:Category:Rebreather diving]]
and that one act would automatically make membership of Category:Closed circuit diving be treated as membership of Category:Rebreather diving, instead of having to edit every member of Category:Closed circuit diving. Anthony Appleyard 11:05, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I just found that Category:Ethnic cleansing of Georgians in Abkhazia was a member of itself, so that a tree of a category's subcategories would go on for ever. One of Wikipedia's bots should be programmed to look for circular subcategory chains (as well as for #redirect circles). (I have now removed the self-membership line in Category:Ethnic cleansing of Georgians in Abkhazia; see this old version). Anthony Appleyard 10:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Is there any piece of Javascript or equivalent I could use to filter out any entries on Special:Newpages below a certain size threshold? I do a fair amount of searching there for potential DYK entries, and being able to avoid having to scroll over the 80% of articles smaller than 3kb would be very handy. GeeJo (t)⁄ (c) • 09:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Assume page A calls template B, which calls template C, which calls either of (X,Y,Z) depending on a parameter supplied by A. X,Y,Z have some parameters in common, which are supplied by C, but the remainer needs to be supplied by A.
So, in pseudocode:
Is there any way to pass the multiple values from A via B to C as one parameter, so that B does not have to know the maximum number of values that may be passed through? In other words, is there a way to place a piped parameter list into one parameter and then somehow make C "expand" the single parameter again into a list which can be fed into the X/Y/Z template call? Or am I stuck with passing them one by one? -- TeraBlight 07:25, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
It is impossible to parse strings in any way / convert a singular parameter into multiple ones. You may want to either:
In the 3rd case, you should work out the maximum parameters that are likely to be passed, and code for just those. -- Alfakim-- talk 06:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm editing pages such as 7, 8 and 265 to solve the WP:BUNCH problem. It's rather formulaic. I wonder if a bot/script/whatever could be written to save my time? The problem seems to carry on right up to and beyond 1876. See 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 362 to see what I've done so far.
Also, there is little consistency in the disambiguation; sometimes it's {{otheruses}} and sometimes it's {{otheruses-number}} and sometimes it's both. perhaps they should all just be {{otheruses-number}} and any such page as 5 (disambiguation) should be merged with 5 (number). -- User24 00:01, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the responses both of you, I've left a message on your talk page Ligulem. -- User24 14:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I've done a couple of changes to
MediaWiki:Searchnoresults, to include links to site searches on the three linked engines - what with the index being so far behind (and the mediawiki search engine being so rubbish not very good). As this is likely to affect most people at some time, I'm posting here to invite discussion (crossposting to
WP:VPN, please comment on this (
WP:VPT) page). Thanks --
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How do you make an article in one language count as the same in another? 194.80.178.1 21:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks guys. 194.80.178.1 22:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I get an error message that there is a typo in the image name about 99% of the time before I finally succeed. I know the general rules about naming images. Is there an extra trick? Thanks! Mattisse (talk) 20:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I want to upload a singles cover "kaw-liga_Hank_Williams.jpg" to the article Kaw-Liga (song). I have renamed it various ways but when I try to upload it I always get the message: The file you uploaded seems to be empty. This might be due to a typo in the file name. Please check whether you really want to upload this file. Yesterday I uploaded a similar file to Dust My Broom successfully. I don't know what I am doing wrong now. I have read the direction on how to upload. Any ideas? Thanks! Mattisse (talk) 16:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be great to have an RSS stream for your watchlist? Possible or not? yandman 10:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I've run into a number of situations over time on Wikipedia, especially those involving categories embedded within templates, for which it would have been incredibly useful to have a tag that would cause the MediaWiki software to disregard all categories within the tags.
Thanks, Nihiltres 03:41, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
How can you change the image size for something? I mean not forever, but for, say, a userbox. The current image is too large, and I want the userbox to be of a reasonable size.-- Kookoo275 01:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Gah, now I remember. I did that for a volcano pic one time. Oh well, I'm an idiot. Thanks. -- Kookoo275 03:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Without having put much thought into the matter, my understanding has been that only Wikipedia articles were supposed to be indexed by search engines (enforced by robots.txt or the equivalent). But I just noticed that my talk and user pages are the fourth and fifth hits on a google search for "opabinia regalis" - [8] - far outranking our article on the actual fossil, located at Opabinia and redirected from Opabinia regalis. Even my rarely-used Commons userpage outranks our actual article. This may make some sense, as my userpage is linked to more often, but all those links should be coming from sigs, which should also be in non-indexed talk pages.
I can't think off the top of my head of any other users whose usernames are plausible search terms, but I'm sure they're out there. Google giving unusually high ranks to Wikipedia articles is not surprising (see this signpost article), but doing the same to things out of articlespace is a bad sign, and just a further indication of how strict we should be on not allowing spam or advertising to stay in userspace long enough to get indexed. Opabinia regalis 05:12, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Maybe the problem is with the usernames? Though as my name is also that of an article, I guess I should stop right here! :-) Carcharoth 02:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Opabinia, I think the answer is obvious. Google has simply decided that you are more interesting than a fossil ;-). For the record though a search on Opabinia gives the fossil page. It is only search for the more detailed Opabinia regalis that gives you first (which is after all the title of your page, but only a side item on the fossil page). I think this is probably something that the world can learn to live with. Dragons flight 05:41, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Hmm. For Carcharoth, I'm seeing our article first on the Google search, and then my user page, suitably indented from the main result. That seems reasonable. Still, just to be sure, and as a matter of principle, I'm putting a WP:HATNOTE redirecting people to the article in case they come to my user page, or talk page. Carcharoth 12:16, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Userspace indexing is useful for one very good reason. I don't really know how to find the same volumes of spam without it. MER-C 12:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Discussion started at Wikipedia_talk:Username#Username_disambiguation. Carcharoth 13:31, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
When I make changes on a page, I add it to my watchlist, but sometimes I only want to watch it for a few days to make sure the page is not vandalized again. Would it be possible to create a temporary watchlisting option?
By this, I mean, you could add an item to your watchlist for 3 (or 7) days, after which it automatically would be removed. If you edit the item during the 3 (or 7) days, the item's time on your watchlist would be renewed, so that it would be on for 3 (or 7) days from that point.
One of the benefits is to prevent editor (particularly admin) burnout by automatically removing short-term watchlist items so the editor does not become overwhelmed by a tremendous watchlist that he feels responsible for. This would be especially useful in fighting short-term vandalism on article, which takes up half or more of an editor's tim on Wikipedia.-- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 00:28, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
No, not that way. I don't want to have to fill in a field or hit a check box every time I submit an edit. Also, I don't know that I can say, at the time of editing, how long I'll want the page on my watchlist.
I'd rather see a text column on the watchlist page telling me how many days since I last watched it. This needs to display as well when I the list. Then I can easily go down the list, saying, "Hm, I haven't had anything to do with X in 6 months and I can't think of any reason to keep it watched. Bye." That's how I'd like it. An export feature would be nice, too. John Reid ° 04:24, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
So where do we go from here with this? -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 06:15, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Tried to apply link suggester to main page but suggester noted there was a syntax error in the underlying wikitext: http://can-we-link-it.nickj.org/suggest-links/suggester.php?page=Main_Page
Please can someone fix it? Tom 13:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Tried to apply the link suggester to the main page but it flagged a wiki syntax error in the wikitext underlying the main page. Please see http://can-we-link-it.nickj.org/suggest-links/suggester.php?page=Main_Page for the syntax error.
We can only use this link suggester when the syntax error has been resolved, please can someone help? Tom 13:11, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello:
Some of the images on Wikipedia are too small to be read by the human eye alone. For example,the link: French monarchs family tree contains a very small image: Image:France-2ndCapet.png. This image is far too small to be read; And the high resolution download shows text rather than a larger image. How can these tiny images be made bigger and more legible for the human eye?
72.88.150.208 05:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello I would like to say i am very upset that wikipedia does not have a "save, but do not post" button. If, in fact they do have such a feature it needs to be more prominant. I had a very upsetting moment when i was wokring on a new article and I walked to get a drink. When I came back, wikipedia had been closed and all of my hard work lost. It could be placed right next to the save changes and post button. The button would save the article to your contributions. please correct me if I am wrong but I do not believe there is such a way.-- Gwakamoley 18:07, 20 November 2006 (UTC)Gwakamoley
Yes, but I still think that such a feature should still be added... unless it is impossible (if thats what your sayin).-- Gwakamoley 18:20, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Since this morning I've been seeing a horizontal scrollbar in Wikipedia article pages (including user and talk pages, but not the watchlist) in Firefox 2.0. The horizontal scrollbar does not appear in IE. Does anyone know if the CSS or ouputted HTML has changed in MediaWiki. -- Jeff3000 23:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, on the above article section, there's a link that points to a postscript file on someone's web page, but when the article is viewed (using Internet Explorer), it does not show the usual graphic to indicate that the article is a URL rather than a wikipedia entry. -- Rebroad 10:42, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I've been converting a list I'm working on into table form, located at User:VegaDark/Sandbox and I've been inline sourcing every entry. There are so many football players that use the same source that I have gotten past bz on the reference count at the bottom of the page and it is showing some sort of error. Only a developer can add the ability for ca-cz and beyond (by the time I am done, I may need through the d's or e's). Any chance that can happen? Thanks, VegaDark 01:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
ca cb cc cd ce cf cg ch ci cj ck cl cm cn co cp cq cr cs ct cu cv cw cx cy cz
added to the end of it. However, this edit can only be done by an admin.
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02:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 
in each of them might fix this.
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16:59, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I know nothing about featured lists specifically, but I'd say the inline citation creep lately has gotten way out of hand if we're getting up to dz in the footnotes. People have, in the past, evaded this problem by including individual notes with page/section/etc numbers and the author's name, and listing the full citation for the work in a separate section (I understand this is common in WP:MILHIST-supported articles). A simple option would be to use the old {{ ref}}/{{ note}} system, which is clunkier in some ways but doesn't produce individual notes for each time a work is cited, or just include a linked asterisk that goes to this particular oft-cited work in place of a note. Don't know if any of those would suit your specific purpose, though. Opabinia regalis 05:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
http://stats.wikimedia.org/ has been completely unaccessible for days now. What's up? -- Derlay 03:16, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that there is now a (replacing page with 'new page content') auto-summary when a vandal blanks a page ( example); however, the one I really liked - the auto-summary that was provided when you make a redirect - is gone. Can the developers bring this one back? :-( Kimchi. sg 13:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I figured it out. Apparently the new redirect autosummary requires there be no space between the "#REDIRECT" and the [[. Kimchi. sg 05:35, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I posted this query on one of the help pages, and somebody suggested I try the Village Pump, too. I'd love to find information on something I know is technically feasible, I'm just not sure we actually do it. I'm interested in what countries' residents give back to the Wikipedia.
For instance, where do the people who contribute to en.wikipedia.org live? Are they primarily in countries where English is the first language? Or are there thousands in places where English is only a second language, but widely spoken, whether that means the Netherlands or India? I'm not interested in whether the contributors are really native English speakers or not (well, I am, but we can't really know that about each one without asking them.) I'm simply interested in where they are, because we can track that through their IP addresses. And of course I'm not interested in who they are, either, this is not an invasion of any individual's privacy. Yes, articles originating in India (according their IP address) could have been written by, say, a Briton temporarily (or even permanently) residing there, but if there are a few hundred thousand articles from non-English speaking countries, I think it would be safe to assume that they weren't all written by expats!
Where do the people live who contribute to es.wikipedia.org? Spain, South America, Central America, the U.S.?
Where do the people who contribute to zh.wikipedia.org live, or ko.wikipedia.org or ... are these people in their respective diasporas, socalled "overseas" Chinese, or Taiwanese, or people living in the People's Republic?
Wouldn't this be easy to track? And might it not give insight into why some Wikipedias grow so much faster than others?
Thanks
Prairie Dad 01:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm having trouble with the following SVG image. The file loads fine in IE and FireFox. Is there something I can do to fix it? - SharkD 09:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Workaround: convert the text to paths (in Inkscape under Path->Object to Path). Don't use line endings, these are problematic as well. Set the line ending to "none" and use separately drawn triangles or arrowheads, positioned appropriately.
BTW, as the image is supposed to show a sphere, I think a perspective similar to this picture, but rotated maybe another 30° to the right might be better. Lupo 12:05, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Someone pointed out above that the fr:IPod article displays its title as "iPod", rather than " IPod" as we do here. This looks much nicer than making the user read "due to technical restrictions, blah blah...". The french wikipedia accomplishes this by adding a site-wide javascript function that checks for the presence of their {{ lowercase}} template, removes the lowercase notice, and changes the title to be the lowercase version. ( search for "RealTitleBanner") If the user doesn't have javascript enabled, it just falls back to displaying the "due to technical restrictions..." blurb.
Gerbrant has managed to get this working on enwiki as well. You can make this work now by adding {{subst: User:Gerbrant/realTitle.js}} to your monobook.js.
This seems safe and useful enough that I'd like to see this added to MediaWiki:Monobook.js. Are there any concerns about this? -- Interiot 01:24, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
addOnloadHook(function() { var rtb = document.getElementById("RealTitleBanner"); if(!rtb ) return; var doctitle = document.getElementById("content"). getElementsByTagName("H1").item(0).innerHTML; if(rtb.substr(0,1).toLowerCase() == doctitle.substr(0,1).toLowerCase()) { rtb.style.display = "none"; document.getElementById("content"). getElementsByTagName("H1").item(0).innerHTML = document.getElementById("RealTitle").innerHTML; } document.title.replace("/^"+doctitle+"/", rtb); });
rtb.substr(0,1).toLowerCase() == doctitle.substr(0,1).toLowerCase()
should only be true if they're the same except for their initial letter's case. Except looking at it again, that's totally stupid and wrong, and should be rtb.substr(0,1).toLowerCase() + rtb.substr(1) == doctitle.substr(0,1).toLowerCase() + doctitle.substr(1)
, I think. Other transformations could also be made, like underscores/spaces (although I guess only ones that are neither the first nor last character?).Also, maybe something could be worked out for the messy cases that preserves pasteability (no, I don't know whether that e belongs there). Like, what if you did something funky with transparency and z-index? Put the real title on top but invisible, the display title underneath and visible. The problem with that would be if the real title is longer than the display title ( C Sharp), people would be prone to select less of the title than they should. Also, it would be distinctly unexpected for the user. I'd stick with canonically equivalent names only for now. — Simetrical ( talk • contribs) 00:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Would it be possible to implement the fix for every article, and then add a mouseover or select event to the title text so that the pasteable text will either appear and/or be copied respectively? -- DavidH Oz Au 03:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I implemented the "check in real-time if it's pasteable, and only replace the <h1> if it is" code (see User:Interiot/js/RealTitle.js). At the same time, that solved another problem I had, that usually a page's namespace usually isn't mentioned in the "due to technical restrictions" blurb (but sometimes it is). So I also automatically detect whether the namespace is there, and add it if it's not (again, to make sure the name is pasteable). At this point, I see no obvious downsides to the script (other than possibly its complexity), so I'd like to try to add it to monospace.js soon unless there are objections. (the minor downsides are that I don't have printing working, and a few weird cases like lac operon don't work, but I think for 97% of its uses, it does the best thing possible) -- Interiot 04:42, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
There are no pictures shown!?! Is there a server problem or something??? Posted By User:JaJaon 165.95.18.61 22:14, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
The new spell checker is great; but did anyone notice how wikipedia, Wikipedia, WikipediA, no matter where you put capital letter is underlined with a red line? I think thats kind of weird and even though it doesn't matter that much, I still think it should be corrected. Pseudoanonymous 21:50, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to take this opportunity to proclaim that Firefox is "for the fucking win", as they say. :) 164.11.204.56 20:49, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
On this pic for example I see a kind of pixelized, crimsoned rings on the background. However nothing like this appeared when I viewed the image on laptop. Is it an image or monitor defect? -- Brand спойт 15:32, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Is there some way of making my top, while-logged-in bar, display a link to my two subpages alongside my main user page? So instead of:
I actually want it to read:
Is there some uncomplicated way to add these pages to the top of my pages, by editing either my Javascript or CSS page, and is all I need to do after that to clear my cache and refresh the page? I'm not experienced in either medium but have always wanted to do this for quick access. Ideally the bar should still be on the right-hand side at the top. Thank you. Bobo . 07:56, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
function getUserSpaceWikiLink(page, name) { return getWikiLink('User:'+wgUserName+'/'+page, (name?name:page)); } function getWikiLink(page, name) { return '<a href="'+wgArticlePath.replace(/\$1/, page)+'">'+(name?name:page)+'</a>'; } function insertUserLink(id, page, name) { var talklink = document.getElementById('pt-mytalk'); var newuserlink = document.createElement('LI'); newuserlink.id = 'pt-' + id; newuserlink.innerHTML = getUserSpaceWikiLink(page, (name?name:page)); talklink.parentNode.insertBefore(newuserlink, talklink); } addOnloadHook(function () { insertUserLink('sandbox', 'Sandbox'); insertUserLink('map', 'MAP'); });
function ppersonal() { var tb = document.getElementById('p-personal').getElementsByTagName('ul')[0]; addlilink(tb, '/wiki/User:Bobo192/MAP', 'MAP', 'p-map', 'User:Bobo192/MAP', '1'); addlilink(tb, '/wiki/User:Bobo192/Sandbox', 'Sandbox', 'p-sandbox', 'User:Bobo192/MAP', '2'); } addOnloadHook(ppersonal); function addlilink(tabs, url, name, id, title, key) { var na = document.createElement('a'); na.href = url; na.appendChild(document.createTextNode(name)); var li = document.createElement('li'); if(id) li.id = id; li.appendChild(na); tabs.appendChild(li); if(id) { if(key && title) { ta[id] = [key, title]; } else if(key) { ta[id] = [key, '']; } else if(title) { ta[id] = ['', title]; } } // re-render the title and accesskeys from existing code in wikibits.js akeytt(); return li; }
I don't know whether this is the right place to propose a feature for MediaWiki... but since this is the largest use of the software (and the only place I have an account) I'll try to get a discussion started here. I know that when a page is edited, the MediaWiki software makes a null edit to all pages that transclude that page. My question is... would it be possible (or "feasible" -- I'm a developer so I know how annoying the phrase "is it possible" is) to be able to watch those null edits as well as regular edits, so essentially I could be alerted when anything on a certain page is edited? For instance, if I was watching Wikipedia:Requests for adminship, I would see a notice that a change was made when any of the subpages were edited. I personally would find this very useful... anyone know if it could ever get added to the software? -- Renesis ( talk) 07:43, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I got a quaestion. In this news article, they said that they have fixed the recent changes so you could see how many characters were added and remove to remove vandalism. But I can't see this feature, is this because I'm using the wrong computer, or is it because this feature hasn't been uploaded yet in the recent changes.-- PrestonH 05:26, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I was editing Lennart Axelsson. For some reason, the page is omitting the references section that I added and two templates after it (that I also added). Why? - Will Pittenger 03:49, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I just noticed the change as that article was listed before this page in my watchlist. I supposed I should have noticed it. Sorry to bother you. Will ( Talk - contribs) 05:44, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
For the last few days, whenever I search for any page on Wikipedia that doesn't exist, the "There was a problem with your search" text comes up every time, with the Google and Yahoo links. – The Gr e at Llama moo? 02:50, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Over at WP:AN3RR, violation reports are very time-consuming to fill out. Going back and forth from page history and noticeboard, copying all the diff urls as well as timestamps (that's a minimum of five diffs and five timestamps, back and forth makes that a minimum of twenty page switches). It would be more than awesome to have some kind of automated system that helps the user fill out a report. Anybody feel my pain? — coelacan talk — 00:41, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
More JS issues that I've been having. As you can see if you view the source of any Wikipedia page, there is a Javascript near the top that defines several variables, including skin="monobook";
or skin="standard";
for classic. I have tried to take advantage of this in several scripts:
function myFunction() { //Function code } if(skin=="standard") { addOnloadHook(myFunction()); }
I see no reason why the conditional statement shouldn't work, because it works fine once the conditional is commented out. You can see some examples at User:Karl Dickman/standard.js and User:Userscripts/Editcount link/source.js. Karl Dickman talk 23:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
addOnloadHook(myFunction()
needs to be addOnloadHook(myFunction());
(possibly JS lets you omit the semicolon, I don't recall). —
Simetrical (
talk •
contribs)
20:57, 15 December 2006 (UTC)To clarify: my bad JS above (the unclosed brackets and badly formed comments) are not problems with my original code. My original code works, as can be attested to both by some thorough parsing on my part and by Firefox's JS console.
Also, if "that js" refers to the script that assigns var skin="skin name"
, then it doesn't just load for the standard skin, it loads for any skin. Check the source of a page with monobook.
Karl Dickman
talk
04:39, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
What about
User:Userscripts/Editcount link/source.js. This script is not skin-specific, and is meant to be copied to other user's scripts with document.write
. Yet the addition of a test for the skin caused the script to break. Why?
I am trying to find the correct tag for some images. They are copywrited by my local newspaper company, but I have permission from the media coordinator to use them. What image tag should I use so they are not deleteted? Cabman
In a template that I am placing on a talk page I assigning a Catagory. Right now it is set up with {{PAGENAME}}. Unfourtunatly this is setting the talk page into the Castagory where I would like the parent of the talk page in the Catagory to show. Does anyone know a method of doing this? Markco1 23:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
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I love the site but is there dicussion of a better search engine? I can find information easier using Google to search for information in Wikipedia than searching in Wikipedia. For instance, I did a search for GDDI in Wikipedia and it returned with no information about GDDI in Wikipedia but if I do a Google search, then it refers me to the page in Wikipedia that I can find it. So this is a great concept but if you can't search it, then it is no serving it's purpose.
Thanks, Carl
I just came upon a similar problem and not sure if this needs a bug report or if I am missing something. I did a search for "Goertzel" and Wikipedia returned 0 search results, however, there is clearly an article titled "Goertzel algorithm". Why did a search for a word contained in an article title not return a result for that article? -- MattWatt 01:58, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I have no idea how to create a bot, but I think a bot for removing red links would be a good idea.
No removing the word (e.g. Sir Colt Watson would become merely Sir Colt Watson, the [[]] would be reomved. Any thoughts? Do we have one already?
†he Bread 02:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Is it possible for someone to make a bot that can view external links on the pages and decide wether they are dead or not? |The Placebo Effect 01:29, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Before upgrading to IE7, I could usually enter changes, visit another page, and come back without losing the changes. However, IE7 seems to auto-refresh whenever I use the "back" button, and any unsaved changes would be lost. Does anyone know how to disable the auto-refreshing? Thanks. -- Ixfd64 01:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
I am a new user to editing. I just edited my school's page, but noticed that it was getting vandalized a bunch, mostly by people from my school while school was in session. Is there a way I can just block unrregistered users from my school from editing that page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cabman ( talk • contribs)
I'm a fairly experienced editor, but I've never had the occasion to use any automated robots. Right now I have a task which I think would be perfect for a robot to a one-time job. However, I have no idea how to use or create them (I'm a programmer by trade, so I'm fairly technically adept). I need to update all the links from Accolade (company) to Accolade (company). Anyone know how to get (or develop) a wiki-robot to do this? TIA! — Frecklefoot | Talk 16:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Images_to_improve#Relationship_between_dBu_and_dBm. Some characters are out of line with others, and the subscript doesn't show up. It renders fine in Inkscape and I'd like to tweak the SVG to make it work on our site, instead of converting the text to paths or some other workaround. I'd like to be able to make things display consistently in the future. — Omegatron 15:38, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
If you transclude a page through a transcluded template, is there any way to make the little [edit] boxes next to the headings in the transcluded page not edit the template instead, or, at least, to suppress them? For an example of what I'm doing, check out the transcluded Peer review on Talk:Charles Darwin. Adam Cuerden talk 04:22, 13 December 2006 (UTC) I've removed it from there, since it also breaks edit functionality, but since it mostly works on other pages (except the auto-set header....
{{peer review transclusion|link=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography/Peer_review/Charles Darwin}}
I suggest removing it once everyone's had a chance to look.
I'm using Opera 9.02 and the IPA transcriptions are giving me considerable trouble since ɪ and ː appear the same to me. Which font should I change to make them display differently? eszett talk 02:25, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
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Nethac DIU, always would speak
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Finally found the cause of this longstanding bug. It's a Firefox upgrade bug, one most likely to be seen by users who upgraded from Firefox 1.0 to 1.5 or later. In 1.0, there was a configuration checkbox to turn off image changing from Javascript, which was an early way to block ads. In 1.5, the checkbox was removed. But the 1.0 to 1.5 upgrader didn't reset the related configuration parameter. So now the user is stuck.
Then, a few months back, the Wikimedia developers got fancy and started building the toolbar entirely in Javascript. Images inserted that way were thus blocked.
If you have this problem, here's the fix.
The buttons should reappear.
See Wikimedia bug #5747 for details. -- John Nagle 06:33, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
As a result of deleting superfluous fonts I am now getting Wikipedia pages in an ugly upper case type. What font should be used to display the headings and articles? Laurie
{{ Computer Magazines}} is broken and breaking layout on pages it's on because it's transcluding {{ sprotected2}} from somewhere, even though it's not directly included. I looked at both {{ tnavbar}} and {{ navbar-header}} and can't seem to figure out how it's getting into the other template. Anyone know where this is coming from? Hmm, it's been fixed now. found the culprit [12]. Night Gyr ( talk/ Oy) 23:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
From Wikipedia talk:Citing sources. Some articles have understandably large reference sections. Now I'm all for this but some have observed that it makes the articles a bit unwieldy and bottom-heavy, even with two-row formatting and tiny text. I'd rather not crop references to correct this (as has been suggested elsewhere). Would it be possible for us to impliment a "hide" function for references in the same manner as the contents sections can be shown/hidden? Sockatume 21:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
See this discussion. JoshuaZ 18:19, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
It's come to my attention that IE6 does something bizarre when previewing an edit. Try editing a page, click preview, and scroll down about to where the edit summary should usually go. The exact nature of the problem is well over my head, but it's clear that something isn't parsing quite right. Ideas? Luna Santin 10:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
After some further investigation between the two of us, we seem to have tracked it down to wikitables which include "align=center" -- case in point:
{| |- | |}
Works fine.
{| align=center |- | |}
Borked, as described above. Luna Santin 10:36, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I notice that sometimes I see an item in my watchlist, then when I do a page refresh it disappears. Why is that? It makes me think that I can't rely on my watchlist to keep me informed of changes. Thanks! Tanaats 05:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
If I am not an administrator, how am I able to revert nonsense added by IP addresses? Kaspazes 13:50, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
The semi-protectection on my userpage undid itself... I know this because my userpage was vandalized by an IP recently. (See the most recent history of my userpage.) What gives? Is this normal? There is no log entry of it being removed. Grand master ka 03:13, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be great to be able to add a page to your watchlist for a specfied period of time, say, 2 days? You could watch talk pages on which you have posted, or articles where you have reverted vandalism, without ending up with a 971 (and counting...) page watchlist. Solutions? yandman 18:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
on Noctuinae can't get it right, can someone pls suggest how they would fix this up? -- Librarianofages 02:02, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
This is a pretty minor issue in the scheme of things, but is there a particular reason why watchlists and related changes pages list the links in the order (diff) (hist), but lists of contributions have them in the order (hist) (diff)? Amazingly, I never noticed this until today. Opabinia regalis 05:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I am entering this under your heading because it has to do with this diff/history link: when reviewing the changes under "Diff", there is a line number listed which locates the change in reference to the line number. How can I locate the line number in an artice? I couldn't find the answer in any of the help articles. Thanks! Richiar 17:20, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Could the <ref name=""></ref> be somehow modified to be used both a link within the body paragraph & be listed in the </references> list?
In the Takeshima Island article, there were two links on aerial & water level views of a geographical feature of the island. I want the two links to show up both in the article as examples & also as references. ( Wikimachine 20:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC))
A search engine [http://www.google.com]<ref>[http://www.google.com Google.com]</ref>
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21:52, 10 December 2006 (UTC)wondering whether i can read my watchlist via rss. i know that rc is available. asked at the helpdesk, was directed here. gracias. ... aa: talk 07:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Lots of pages have been vandalized with Image:Testicles close-up.jpg. The image isn't in the editing box and it's on tonnes of pages. :/ – Zntrip 06:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
To avoid confusion, the article Jam sandwich needs to have it's primary name changed to it's redirect name Jam sandwich (slang), and then I want to make Jam sandwich into a dab page, pointing to Jam sandwich (slang) and Sandwich, but I cannnot do the move. -- ArmadilloFromHellGateBridge 20:26, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I created DiaoyuDao ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) as a redirect to Uotsuri Jima (1st edit). Another new editor blanked the page (2nd edit). I rolled it back. The page now redirects to Uotsuri Jima again, but my last rollback is not in the edit history'. Not sure what exactly happened. I am just curious, since the redirect I created was a typo anyway (should be Diaoyu Dao), it could be deleted. I just wanted to know beforehand what happened. Many thanks -- Chris 73 | Talk 10:39, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Is this tool really defunct? -- Brand спойт 23:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Apologies if this is in the wrong section. The "otherpeople" template says: "for other persons named...". This is grammatically incorrect, the plural of "person" is "people". So the template should read: "for other people named..." -- Salsa man 22:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
I just noticed this site which appears to be some sort of mirror of our content, but in a commercial venue. I'm curious as to whether or not this is appropriate usage? I recall a similar situation (possibly with this same site), that was considered "not acceptable", but I'm unfamiliar with the technicalities. If this is not the right place to mention this, could someone more experienced give me a pointer to the correct page? Thanks. Doc Tropics 21:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
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Graphic Lab have Started on Wikipedia-en. You can help by reading its Main page, and helping to its improvement.
The Graphic Lab need some active users and graphists to start and improve it, raise graphic request,and make images improvement.
To request graphic improvement, please see the newly open
Graphic Lab/Images to improve (copied from
Deutsch and
Français).
Please, talk about this to other users who can be interesting by graphism, requesting images improvement or creation, and people interesting by photographs.
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Hi umm...does anybody see a giant thumb where the mediawiki logo should be? Basically this only appears when I use firefox and it is normal of Internet explorer. Earlier there was a pirate flag and a PI sign in place of the logo...but right now there is a giant thumb. What is going on. — Seadog 01:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Is there any way to watch a page's 'what links here', ie so that when a new link is made to that page it shows up in my watchlist? I ask because there's a couple of disambig pages I like to keep an eye on, dabbing when necessary, and it would be save me having to remember to periodically go to the page to check (they're pages which periodically get a lot of new wrong links) DuncanHill 16:43, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
In "my preferences", I have the edit box as 25 rows of 80 chars. I use the classic skin on MSIE6 on Win2000 and I find that recently (several weeks) the edit box is no longer 80 * 25 but dynamically sized. Apart from the fact that I'd much prefer it if it didn't dynamically resize, the resize is wrong and the right edge of the edit box is off the right of the window pane. If I resize the window the box fits in the pane until I start typing again when it immediately becomes too big again. The scroll bar is already fully right, so access to this area of the box is impossible. What can I do to fix it? -- SGBailey 09:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Does anybody know why two paragraphs of source text are sometimes rendered as one paragraph on the page, and how to fix it? This is happening at Banksia epica. The Description section is rendering as one long paragraph, even though the wiki source is clearly written in two paragraphs, with a blank line between them. One blank line between the paragraphs is ignored; two blank lines is correctly rendered as too much whitespace. Hesperian 04:43, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
''B. epica''<div/>'s
. The <div/>
was intended to stop the triple apostrophe from rendering as bold, but that kind of self-closing style isn't recognized by many browsers and consequently not by the parser, so it interpreted it as opening a div and that led to all kinds of weirdness. If it had worked, it would end up looking like B. epica's with a line break, anyway (except that strangely something is stripping that altogether, feh).I switched to the usual <nowiki> instead, anyway, and now it's displaying fine. — Simetrical ( talk • contribs) 05:13, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
<div/>
in the article, plus at least one case with no delimiter at all. I fixed them to use <span/>
, which is only one character longer but less likely to cause problems (being a text-level element, not a block-level one like div). Of course, Simetrical's <nowiki> trick works just as well. —
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From my understanding of templates, their use on any page increases the time taken for that page to be assembled from the database. Navigational templates are continuously being refined, and often, people decide to shunt off repeatedly used parts of a template into a separate template. This wrapping can take on extremes where (I have seen) three templates are folded inside one another. Is this going to cause a performance problem for Wikipedia in the long term, and should it therefore be discouraged? Should a guideline be written to address this question? - Samsara ( talk • contribs) 23:12, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
When you're at a diff of an old edit you've made, there's a new option: "undo." What does this do? I tried it out in the sandbox but it said it couldn't undo the edit due to intermediate edit conflicts or something.
Also, the footer at the bottom of the page, in Safari 2.0.4, is far wider than it used to be. On all pages the horizontal arrow stretches farther than the text, which is out of the ordinary. -- Fbv 65 e del / ☑t / ☛c || 22:21, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Ah! I still don't understand how it works, but now I am wondering why that signpost hasn't been delivered to me yet! Prodego talk 23:06, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, I understand the function now, but it still doesn't work for me. -- Fbv 65 e del / ☑t / ☛c || 23:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I wrote this feature. What account you use has no bearing on whether or not the undo will succeed. undos will work if the software can figure out how to unambiguously revert a single not-on-top edit. This means that the edit to be undone needs to be the LAST unreverted edit to make changes to that particular paragraph. I'm considering making the (undo) button only appear if one is possible. — Werdna talk criticism 07:07, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I had on my user talk page
<nowiki>{{welcome}}</nowiki>
The WinBot Bot turned the "welcome" into "subst:welcome". That seems wrong. But I guess a work-around is for me to do more like what I have done in this posting. I.e. break up the template code into separate nowiki sections. Is that going to be the recommended course-of-action for the foreseeable future, or will the Bot be taught to understand nowiki context? I could believe recognizing that context would be very difficult. And perhaps occasionally inappropriate.-- SportWagon 15:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
<code><nowiki>{{helpme}}</nowiki></code>
A further experiment suggests the problem, per se, has not been fixed. However, the incorrect substitution will not happen unless the process which activates the Bot first finds a genuine "welcome" template without "subst" on the same user talk page. I.e. my experimental "bad" use of the welcome template, caused the "subst" to be added in my nowiki non-use. My suggested obfuscation for nowiki did "protect" another example, too, as one would expect. So this will, in general, be a minor problem for people who have incorrectly used templates, and the revision log does show what is done, so this is mostly just FYI now.-- SportWagon 17:25, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I found three links to elementary schools on one page which are directed to other elementary schools in various parts of the country (rather than within the county.) How can I kill that link, but keep the text in red; as though it's a dead link?
Sorry for the laymanspeak.
If you want to see specifically what I mean, go to "Loudoun County Public Schools" and under elementary schools, click "Horizon Elementary". Note how you're now in BC, Canada.
Hi, for people who are using classic skin, there is no hint that an article is a featured one, because the little star in the right upper edge is not visible. Is ist possible to fix that? -- Nina 10:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, I will try that. But I thought that it is of general interest to indicate featured articles, so I hoped that someone could fix that for every classic skin-user. -- Nina 13:16, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I see the problem. A category instead of the star would solve that. There is a lot of discussion on Template talk:Featured article, and I didn't read all this to find out if they have decided about a category already. -- Nina 13:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I am having trouble viewing my userpage. All I can see is in very small font up the top of the page:
<script type="text/javascript" src="/?title=-&action=raw&smaxage=0&gen=js
I cannot see anything apart from that including the edit this page etc. buttons. It was perfectly visible yesterday. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you, Jam 01 06:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I can now see the page. Sorry for the inconvenience. Does anybody have any idea why it happened though? Thank you, Jam 01 06:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm attempting to use an external editor (any of the several that I have) for editing. I can get the data from the edit box window and into the editor, but it is input as a text file rather than *.wiki (The instructions for vim, for example, are to program vim to autodetect a file of type *.wiki so that the markup language will be used) Is there a special way to pass this this data on as *.wiki? SFinside 04:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
First, let me say that I find about 15% of the above comprehensible. I know this is a technical discussion page, but please "dumb down" any replies. My background is as an old 8-bit BBS sysop, the web was new when I was in school, I have used Windows and Mac computers at work (desktop publishing, GIS, cartography, &c.), but had little to do with maintenance, and I got my first "real" computer (Windows 98, which I am still using on a salvaged computer) a little over two years ago. I am relatively new to Wikipedia.
Here's the problem (and I'm not sure if this is the right place): I had a large talk page open for editing when I lost the connection to my (dial-up) server and was logged off. (It may have been the other way around.) I decided to call it a night, and when I checked the talk page later, a chunk of the section I was editing was deleted by an IP address associated with my server. I was not in the process of deleting the missing material, and nothing that I had added was saved.
I can understand a dropped connection saving the work in progress as it was, but why would anything have been deleted?
A problem that may be associated with this one is that sometimes the same large talk page will not load completely in my browser (Firefox), although my status bar reports "Done". Several attempts (clearing the cache in between) resolves the problem, but I have to pay international rates (the price of living in paradise) to access the internet.
What I do to get around the problem is that I usually compose any edits offline and paste them in. However, I am just learning how to use the interface, so I spend a lot of time on formatting. I am also going to archive the page in question now that I know how.
Comments please.
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Is there any libraries for bot developing on Macs? I know a Python library out there, but if any Mac-friendly library such as Automator or AppleScript extensions, Safari helpers... available? Yao Ziyuan 09:51, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Is it possible to grab a random page starting from a given category, e.g. random singles, actors, politicians, etc.? Chris cheese whine 01:16, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
This was just posted on my talk page by Acalamari ( talk · contribs):
I don't know a thing about this sort of business, and I need to head out right now, so I am bringing this to you. Can someone follow up on this? Thanks. -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 19:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Which image is it that is causing the problem? Without knowing this, the discussion is a little pointless. -- TheParanoidOne 13:36, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Your virus scanner picked up an infected file. According to the book "Troubleshooting, Maintaining & Repairing PCs (Second Edition)" (ISBN 0-07-913732-6), Section area "Virus Symptoms and Countermeasures" part "Virus Myths" (Page #1329), and I quote (from the bottom):
An image is a data file. Images cannot have macros. An image is only loaded, not run. Those three statements sum up the paragraph of text above. There is nothing to worry about. But...
If you need any other information, contact me. Don't forget to help me (details on user and user talk pages).
Computer and Cricket master,
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Cricket Boy
03:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello everyone, I was hoping you could help me out with this little problem I've been having. I am unable to access Wikipedia when I use Firefox or IE on my computer. The strange thing is, it works fine in the AOL browser. I use Firefox practically all the time so this is quite frustrating as I visit Wikipedia quite often. I have tried uninstalling all the add-ons in Firefox, but seeing as the same problem occurs in IE, I'm pretty sure that isn't the cause. I don't have the knowledge to even guess what could be wrong. All I know is that I made no major changes to either browser that I think could cause this. Thanks to anyone that can help me out!
Cereal Killer 07:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Nothing loads at all. It stays blank in Firefox and continues to show the little "Loading..." message. In IE, after about a minute of not doing anything, it takes me to a "Were you looking for..." page which just lists the link to Wikipedia.
Cereal Killer 08:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I think I know the problem. You probably have your internet options set incorrectly. If it is Windows, try Windows Update, as it may patch IE. You may also need to patch Firefox, but I don't know how, as I don't even know what the company is called. As for me, that sounds pretty weird, as I am using Internet Explorer to edit this thread. The version # is 6.0.2900.2180. In addition, because you can only access it via AOL, your standard IP address may be having problems with WikiPedia, as AOL uses several different IPs. Of course, I cannot be certain, as I have never experienced this problem. Oh, and "unable to access" probably means just that, the browser cannot find the page on the Internet.
Signing off, as a cricket and computer expert,
--Cricket Boy 01:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
This may be a perennial question, but I didn't see the answer anywhere. On wider screens, sometimes left-aligned and sometimes right-aligned images will bunch up and pull away from the side of the page, creating a gap with no text. I ran into a particularly bad example tonight, on a featured article, no less. Four images stacked up, consuming over half of my 1920px wide browser. I've seen case-by-case fixes that sometimes work, but they never seem conclusive (eg. even if I fix an article now, if I upgrade to a 30" Dell/Apple display, will it break again?). Is there a good way to definitively fix this issue for all possible resolutions? -- Interiot 09:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
This will be the result:
Lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum too lazy to see how lorem ipsum continues.
Lorem ipsum.
More lorem ipsum.
Anyways, that article is now formatted using mixed alignement. But this can also be useful
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Or you could put the images in a table, but that might not look so good on the article; it has a lot of images on it. JD talk 11:49, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
You might want to read WP:BUNCH. -- Rick Block ( talk) 16:38, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I understand, in general, why the first letter of an article title is automatically converted to uppercase:
But none of these considerations apply when the first letter is not a Latin character. It is a continual annoyance in the math and science areas of WP that we cannot have articles starting with a lowercase Greek letter; in these cases, the letter in question is never uppercased; it would be quite wrong. Moreover, the cases may even be used distinctively -- for a long time I've been about to write an article Real Soon Now on W. Hugh Woodin's Ω-logic (for a description see Woodin, W. Hugh (2001). "The Continuum Hypothesis, Part II" (PDF). Notices of the AMS. 48 (7): 681–690. But there's an entirely different notion called ω-logic (see for example Weaver, George (Summer 1992). "Unifying Some Modifications of the Henkin Construction". Notre Dame Journal of Formal Logic. 33 (3): 450–460.)
So in my opinion, in en.wiki at least, the rule should be modified so that articles beginning with Latin letters are uppercased but those beginning with non-Latin letters are not. There might be an exception for near-Latin letters like the Polish l-with-a-slash-through-it, or umlauted vowels (actually I'd be happy if just Greek letters were excepted from uppercasing). Obviously things would have to be different on Greek WP, but surely the software is agile enough to allow that, or easily could be. -- Trovatore 07:25, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Twice recently I've accidentally pressed "Enter" while in the edit summary box and saved the page before I meant to. I don't think this ever happened to me before the recent (and very welcome!) changes to the summary box. Am I just becoming more butterfingered, or has some change been made along the lines of "save page" becoming a default option that it wasn't before? -- Blisco 10:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Could not the default action/button then be made the "Preview" button? btw kudos to whoever was responsible for implementing Edit summary previews :) Zun aid © Please rate me at Editor Review! 14:47, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm writing to complain about shoddy SVG versions of raster graphics being uploaded, then shoved into articles. Sometimes SVG versions are okay; often they're not. I'm not going to cite specific examples because this will only lead to people defending on a case-by-case basis and taking their work personally. This is a general problem.
Don't download PNG images to your local machine, run them through some sort of car washer, and upload an inferior SVG. You aren't actually achieving anything; the engine will render a PNG to most browsers anyway. You're not saving any storage, since the PNG remains -- and deleting it won't solve anything except to upset the uploader. We're not so strapped for cash that deleting 100 Kb will put us in the money.
SVG is a problem format. It has its advantages, yes. But it handles fonts poorly. It can be used well but I don't like some of the work I see. I create some graphics with a vector editor, Macromedia FreeHand, and rasterize an exported EPS in Adobe Photoshop. If you want to convert the EPS to SVG, I'll gladly make that available. But if you try to re-draw vectors from a raster image, you either need to do a great deal of unnecessary work or you mess it up.
PNG is a fine format for images; unlike GIF, it is completely free libre and there are no fears of Unisys coming to bite our balls over it. If you have nothing better to do with your time and the amazing tools on your desktop, go ahead and see if you can squeeze a few bytes losslessly out of existing PNGs. Please do not replace them with SVGs unless you can show real benefit and no harm. Thank you. John Reid ° 09:27, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Note that you can use PNGs or GIFs in place of autogenerated SVG thumbnails where the behavior is currently faulty, like so:
Let me stress: I'm not talking about the preferred choice for original work for someone with tools that can create both formats. In some cases, SVG may be better; I can't say -- I don't have those tools. They aren't common.
I'm only upset when I see people coming along, taking an existing PNG, uploading an inferior SVG imitation, then forcing it to replace the better-quality PNG. You cannot do a straightforward conversion of a raster PNG to a true vector SVG. In some cases, the creator of the PNG may have left the community; nothing you can do about that. If you put enough time and trouble into the re-creation, you may come up with an acceptable SVG; that's fine too.
But please do not butcher PNGs into inferior SVGs when the creator is available! You -- yes, you -- can always contact me, if it is my work under consideration. I will be happy to make available vector format workfiles for any PNG that was created entirely in this fashion. You can convert to SVG to your heart's content. This is fine. I only want to express how annoying it is when I spend hours producing a beautiful graphic and somebody else comes along in 15 minutes, does a crappy conversion, then pushes my work aside. I put it here into the common bin and license under GFDL; anyone can edit, yes. But please make it better, not worse. Okay? John Reid ° 07:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
All things are rarely equal. I hardly ever do a straightforward conversion from vector to raster; I twiddle and tweak in Photoshop. Sometimes, the Photoshop side of the job is major, although the result may look as if it came right out of FreeHand. SVG stinks for rasters. I'm not sure I agree that vectors have any real practical use to the reader anyway; most browsers can't display SVG (or any other vector format) directly and MediaWiki serves a PNG anyway.
In any case, I don't have the niche tools that output SVG. Like other graphics professionals, I work in the industry-standard EPS format. We may not like that format and we can grump around all day about how it's "not free" but it is widely supported. I'd be happy to upload EPS and let somebody try to convert to SVG. It's not allowed. John Reid ° 21:46, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I sympathize with John, the best version of an image should be presented to the reader. The creation of crappy SVG versions of uploaded PNGs rarely benefits anyone. If the SVG is actually superior then it should be used, but this seems to rarely be the case with SVGs created after the fact from uploaded raster images. A lower quality SVG might be linked from the PNG image description, but it should not replace the PNG simply because "vector graphics are better". The overriding consideration should be which version is better from the point of view of the reader. Dragons flight 04:36, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Great work. Put it into the appropriate article and that job is done. Then we can move on to the other shoddy SVG conversions. John Reid ° 21:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to propose we add a link to Wikipedia:Cheatsheet, in the editing-mode layout, next to the " Cancel | Editing help (opens in new window)" links. eg:
Friends of mine who only edit very occasionally, have expressed frustration concerning finding reminders for basic wikicode easily (eg piping links); and are either daunted-by or disdainful-of the size/complexity of the Help:Editing page.
Thoughts? -- Quiddity 06:25, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Seems to have strong support ( VP(proposal) archive), where or how do I ask for this to be implemented, or are there any objections or improvements? Please and Thanks! -- Quiddity 21:56, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Altered proposal resubmitted at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Replace "Editing help" with "Cheatsheet" link. Please comment there :) -- Quiddity 22:00, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I cannot seem to locate the source of the whitespace atop the Satveer Chaudhary article. It doesn't seem to come from extra line breaks, nor from the templates. Anyone care to investigate this further? Circeus 01:33, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Fixed [3]. -- Ligulem 13:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
What do <noinclude> and </noinclude> do? -- Shanedidona 19:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
ok. Thanks. :-) -- Shanedidona 19:48, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
What does <includeonly> do? Is there a page that talks about these tags? -- Shanedidona 19:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Charon-1,205km across is just the text ((hangon))- yes, in parentheses. If you go to the edit page, however, it's a redirect- and if you finish editing it it shows a successful redirect page- but if you (for some reason) typed in charon-1,205 km across, you would *not* be redirected, just see ((hangon))... we could probably delete that redirect altogether, fix it cleanly, but wtf? Cantras 17:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Has anyone ever experienced any problems with poor image alignment in Mozilla Firefox?
When I open the Newcastle Central station article in Firefox, two of the images (Newcastle_Central_Station.jpg and Newcastlestationext.jpg) overlap some of the article text. When I open it in IE, there is no overlap. AdorableRuffian 11:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Is this possible? I've noticed that various people keep recreating Category:2010 films (amongst others). It carries the somewhat confusing tense confusion "Films originally released in the year 2010." Pretty much every article that's been in it has been mostly rumour, or so scant on verifiable information that they've been deleted or repointed. Semantic arguments about including films which "were released in the future" aside, there won't be enough verifiable information on any film slated for release at that time for at least another year or so, so is it possible to prevent such categories from being recreated and repopulated any time soon? Chris cheese whine 19:04, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, all. I'm wondering if it is possible to request particular page sections via a php script. For instance, how might I include the (more or less) plaintext of a page's contents box or summary without all of the of the wikipedia chrome or the rest of the article? Possibly, dare I say it, with functioning links? I imagine such a mechanism exists, due to the neet-o wikipedia lookup finctionality in the Trillian chat client, but my best efforts have turned up very lttle in the way technical details for including wikipedia content on another page. I saw somebody mention using 'action=raw' in the url, but that seems to be only part of the answer, if any answer at all.
anyway, any help or direction as to where this question might be answered effectively are much appreciated
for the record, I looking to develop what amounts to a wikipedia skin/reader with some nifty browsing developments, not just to leech wikipedia's content. 69.114.196.13 18:43, 25 November 2006 (UTC)Mike Weber
-- 01:42, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
-- I am in no position to host my own wikipedia mirror, but action=render may indeed be handy (very possibly the tool I need). But is there any central repository for information about querying wikipedia? what types of parameters can be passed and the like? for instance, I see that there is a 'section' parameter that can be passed, but it only seems to work for edits. Were can I learn more about this sort of thing? (alternately an explanation of how to work the 'section' parameter or something like it would do too, in "give me a fish, but no fishing skills" sort of way). Thanks, and stay beautiful, folks.
4:41, 25 November 2006 (UTC) Mike Weber
As you all know, on category pages, each subcategory has a plus sign next to it, with which one can view that subcategory's next layer of nested subcategories. I've heard, however, from at least one user who's said that doesn't work properly for him; instead it stalls on "Loading" and doesn't actually produce a list. It works properly for me, however. Is this just an issue of needing to upgrade his javascript, or is there something that the technical team should look into? Thanks for any help. Bearcat 00:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
How do I put an image into a userbox just like the windows series from The Raven's Apprentice? I only know how to put text in. Please let me know on My Talk Page. Thanks, Ard0 22:48, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
{{userbox|orange|yellow|[[Image:Crystal kthememgr.png|40px]]|A userbox is a small box that looks like this.}}
which gives the userbox shown on the right then modify it to show the correct text and image.
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01:55, 25 November 2006 (UTC)I've discovered that the Classic skin (which I have used since time immemorial) and the slightly more common Monobook skin have a difference in how they vertically align inline images. I was passing through
Wikipedia:WikiProject Stargate and saw that the
glyph in the title there was way out of alignment with the rest of the line, as illustrated by this partial screenshot:
. I "fixed" it, but was then told by someone using Monobook that for him the fix had thrown the image out of alignment in the opposite direction:
. I don't know my way around CSS very well and so haven't found the root cause of this different behavior and haven't been able to fiddle my way around it blindly. Does anyone have advice on how I might resolve this?
Bryan
06:37, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
(The page has since been updated with an all-image banner, for reference the two versions where this problem first showed up are [4] and [5] Bryan 08:00, 24 November 2006 (UTC))
Something has happened with the links we have for coordinates. See most geographic articles, for example Milwaukee has a link to [6] where we used to find various online mapping tools to get an overview of the area, but all those pages have now been replaced with a variation of {{deletedpage}}. What happened? Sjakkalle (Check!) 10:26, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Great, just great. 1. Because I am now on DirecWay (with no other options for a server because I am in the deep woods) I cannot stay logged in *PERIOD*. 2. Before this I went to the trouble to take a photo of J. sambac in my yard, and I edited the size (bytes) for a quick load. I added it (5 months ago) to the Jasmine page. 3. Now the Wiki Police remove it, and I cannot stay logged on to put it back! It's not my fault Wikipedia has some glitch that won't recognize Direcway users, and yes I went to your help desk to no avail. Will someone PLEASE go to my website and get the pic: http://www.MagiaLuna.net/jsambac1.jpg and put it back on the darned page? The removed text under the pic read: "J.sambac in bloom along with an unopened bud. The flowers smell exactly like the tea." Please excuse my frustration. Thanks, and BTW I can't find my user page now?? And of course I logged in to post this and now I'm not logged in... Magialuna 20:34, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Been there, done that re: cookies enabled. Source? You mean my actual name? Uh uh. I took the pic, and I can put the HUGE unedited original digital photo on my website if no one believes me. License? Huh? Magialuna 21:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, dial up warning, lol. Here's the original pic: http://www.MagiaLuna.net/DSC_0001.JPG Magialuna 21:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes. Please use it. Thanks! Magialuna 19:36, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Magialuna, I think you were doubly frustrated and posted two questions in one section. Your image is OK as I understand, but it would have been fixed quicker if treated separately. As for your connnection, good luck! -- DLL .. T 20:08, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
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I've been around for a year and a half, was given admin chores, performed some history merges, and I still have no idea whatis going on here. I can see diffs in the history that don't appear when comparing diffs. Look at this diff] and then hit the next link. Look at the resulting diff, particularly the time gap between them. Then look at the history of the article. It skips ~30 edits made by others and attributes all their changes to an editor ~30+1 edits later. Since all of the edits do appear in the history if one compares diff by diff I guess it isn't too much of a concern, but I don't understand why it is doing this. I also have a personal concern as 25 of those 30 are mine, making a large expansion of a stub.— WAvegetarian• (talk) 12:54, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
How do you do this? I want all my userboxes to be on the right side of my user page, like the babel box. -- Kookoo275 23:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. -- Kookoo275 02:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
The pages Special:Deadendpages, Special:Uncategorizedpages, Special:Uncategorizedcategories and Special:Wantedcategories are created regularly and remain unchanged in the intervals. I understand that compiling these lists dynamically would take too much time, but once they exist, it shouldn't be too demanding to monitor changes to listed pages and remove those that no longer belong. This would make these special pages more useful, because currently it can be quite challenging to find anything in them that hasn't been fixed already. -- Derlay 00:29, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Every time I try to log in from my PC I get a prompt to download a file after I click log in. I do not have Use external editor checked in my user preferences and they shouldn't have an affect anyway, I think? Does anyone know what is wrong? 81.104.37.81 20:29, 22 November 2006 (UTC) (usually user:Lcarsdata)
I have a couple of users on Apple PC's who have (or currently are) seeing the text in articles displayed in Hindi or some Indo-Dravidian text.
I know I've turned this error off in the past but can't seem to remember how.
They are all using Tiger, and Safari. Problem does not come up in other browsers. Also seems to effect Craig's List and some few other sites.
Any help will be appreciated! Thanks
Merel O'Rourke (e-mail removed for privacy reasons) Wed 22 November 2006
⌘,
). Then click on the Appearance tab on top. At the bottom of the Appearance options you will see "Default Encoding." Set this to Unicode (UTF-8) and you shold be all set.—
WAvegetarian•
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13:40, 24 November 2006 (UTC)Why does the page say what it says at the top and yet this clearly newly registered user had his way with the article? BabuBhatt 15:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Wahkeenah 16:15, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
The usual pipe format is e.g. "[[scuba set|my old aqualung]]", as is well known. The trouble arises with inflections. In English, most inflected word forms have a bare-stem form, so linking from an inflected form is easy: e.g. "the [[cat]]'s tail"; "the [[patrol]]men were [[shovel]]ing seized kit into their incinerator."
The trouble comes with words where the bare stem is not a valid word. That occurs more in other languages, such as with nouns in Latin and Lithuanian and Icelandic, and with feminine and neuter words in Slavonic languages, and verbs in Romance languages, where in some inflected forms the end of the listed form drops out. That results in having to repeat the whole word at the link, e.g. "[[incineration|incinerator]]", "[[inflate|inflating]]". This is very common in some foreign Wikipedias, adding up to many megabytes of extra text. It would be useful to be able to write e.g. "[[incinerat|ing|or]]", "the star ξ [[Sagittari|us|i]]", "[[inflat|e|ing]]", instead. Anthony Appleyard 11:11, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
It would be useful if this feature was put into Wikipedia. If e.g.:-
#redirect [[:Category:Rebreather diving]]
and that one act would automatically make membership of Category:Closed circuit diving be treated as membership of Category:Rebreather diving, instead of having to edit every member of Category:Closed circuit diving. Anthony Appleyard 11:05, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I just found that Category:Ethnic cleansing of Georgians in Abkhazia was a member of itself, so that a tree of a category's subcategories would go on for ever. One of Wikipedia's bots should be programmed to look for circular subcategory chains (as well as for #redirect circles). (I have now removed the self-membership line in Category:Ethnic cleansing of Georgians in Abkhazia; see this old version). Anthony Appleyard 10:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Is there any piece of Javascript or equivalent I could use to filter out any entries on Special:Newpages below a certain size threshold? I do a fair amount of searching there for potential DYK entries, and being able to avoid having to scroll over the 80% of articles smaller than 3kb would be very handy. GeeJo (t)⁄ (c) • 09:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Assume page A calls template B, which calls template C, which calls either of (X,Y,Z) depending on a parameter supplied by A. X,Y,Z have some parameters in common, which are supplied by C, but the remainer needs to be supplied by A.
So, in pseudocode:
Is there any way to pass the multiple values from A via B to C as one parameter, so that B does not have to know the maximum number of values that may be passed through? In other words, is there a way to place a piped parameter list into one parameter and then somehow make C "expand" the single parameter again into a list which can be fed into the X/Y/Z template call? Or am I stuck with passing them one by one? -- TeraBlight 07:25, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
It is impossible to parse strings in any way / convert a singular parameter into multiple ones. You may want to either:
In the 3rd case, you should work out the maximum parameters that are likely to be passed, and code for just those. -- Alfakim-- talk 06:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm editing pages such as 7, 8 and 265 to solve the WP:BUNCH problem. It's rather formulaic. I wonder if a bot/script/whatever could be written to save my time? The problem seems to carry on right up to and beyond 1876. See 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 362 to see what I've done so far.
Also, there is little consistency in the disambiguation; sometimes it's {{otheruses}} and sometimes it's {{otheruses-number}} and sometimes it's both. perhaps they should all just be {{otheruses-number}} and any such page as 5 (disambiguation) should be merged with 5 (number). -- User24 00:01, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the responses both of you, I've left a message on your talk page Ligulem. -- User24 14:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I've done a couple of changes to
MediaWiki:Searchnoresults, to include links to site searches on the three linked engines - what with the index being so far behind (and the mediawiki search engine being so rubbish not very good). As this is likely to affect most people at some time, I'm posting here to invite discussion (crossposting to
WP:VPN, please comment on this (
WP:VPT) page). Thanks --
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22:53, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
How do you make an article in one language count as the same in another? 194.80.178.1 21:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks guys. 194.80.178.1 22:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I get an error message that there is a typo in the image name about 99% of the time before I finally succeed. I know the general rules about naming images. Is there an extra trick? Thanks! Mattisse (talk) 20:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I want to upload a singles cover "kaw-liga_Hank_Williams.jpg" to the article Kaw-Liga (song). I have renamed it various ways but when I try to upload it I always get the message: The file you uploaded seems to be empty. This might be due to a typo in the file name. Please check whether you really want to upload this file. Yesterday I uploaded a similar file to Dust My Broom successfully. I don't know what I am doing wrong now. I have read the direction on how to upload. Any ideas? Thanks! Mattisse (talk) 16:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be great to have an RSS stream for your watchlist? Possible or not? yandman 10:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I've run into a number of situations over time on Wikipedia, especially those involving categories embedded within templates, for which it would have been incredibly useful to have a tag that would cause the MediaWiki software to disregard all categories within the tags.
Thanks, Nihiltres 03:41, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
How can you change the image size for something? I mean not forever, but for, say, a userbox. The current image is too large, and I want the userbox to be of a reasonable size.-- Kookoo275 01:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Gah, now I remember. I did that for a volcano pic one time. Oh well, I'm an idiot. Thanks. -- Kookoo275 03:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Without having put much thought into the matter, my understanding has been that only Wikipedia articles were supposed to be indexed by search engines (enforced by robots.txt or the equivalent). But I just noticed that my talk and user pages are the fourth and fifth hits on a google search for "opabinia regalis" - [8] - far outranking our article on the actual fossil, located at Opabinia and redirected from Opabinia regalis. Even my rarely-used Commons userpage outranks our actual article. This may make some sense, as my userpage is linked to more often, but all those links should be coming from sigs, which should also be in non-indexed talk pages.
I can't think off the top of my head of any other users whose usernames are plausible search terms, but I'm sure they're out there. Google giving unusually high ranks to Wikipedia articles is not surprising (see this signpost article), but doing the same to things out of articlespace is a bad sign, and just a further indication of how strict we should be on not allowing spam or advertising to stay in userspace long enough to get indexed. Opabinia regalis 05:12, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Maybe the problem is with the usernames? Though as my name is also that of an article, I guess I should stop right here! :-) Carcharoth 02:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Opabinia, I think the answer is obvious. Google has simply decided that you are more interesting than a fossil ;-). For the record though a search on Opabinia gives the fossil page. It is only search for the more detailed Opabinia regalis that gives you first (which is after all the title of your page, but only a side item on the fossil page). I think this is probably something that the world can learn to live with. Dragons flight 05:41, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Hmm. For Carcharoth, I'm seeing our article first on the Google search, and then my user page, suitably indented from the main result. That seems reasonable. Still, just to be sure, and as a matter of principle, I'm putting a WP:HATNOTE redirecting people to the article in case they come to my user page, or talk page. Carcharoth 12:16, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Userspace indexing is useful for one very good reason. I don't really know how to find the same volumes of spam without it. MER-C 12:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Discussion started at Wikipedia_talk:Username#Username_disambiguation. Carcharoth 13:31, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
When I make changes on a page, I add it to my watchlist, but sometimes I only want to watch it for a few days to make sure the page is not vandalized again. Would it be possible to create a temporary watchlisting option?
By this, I mean, you could add an item to your watchlist for 3 (or 7) days, after which it automatically would be removed. If you edit the item during the 3 (or 7) days, the item's time on your watchlist would be renewed, so that it would be on for 3 (or 7) days from that point.
One of the benefits is to prevent editor (particularly admin) burnout by automatically removing short-term watchlist items so the editor does not become overwhelmed by a tremendous watchlist that he feels responsible for. This would be especially useful in fighting short-term vandalism on article, which takes up half or more of an editor's tim on Wikipedia.-- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 00:28, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
No, not that way. I don't want to have to fill in a field or hit a check box every time I submit an edit. Also, I don't know that I can say, at the time of editing, how long I'll want the page on my watchlist.
I'd rather see a text column on the watchlist page telling me how many days since I last watched it. This needs to display as well when I the list. Then I can easily go down the list, saying, "Hm, I haven't had anything to do with X in 6 months and I can't think of any reason to keep it watched. Bye." That's how I'd like it. An export feature would be nice, too. John Reid ° 04:24, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
So where do we go from here with this? -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 06:15, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Tried to apply link suggester to main page but suggester noted there was a syntax error in the underlying wikitext: http://can-we-link-it.nickj.org/suggest-links/suggester.php?page=Main_Page
Please can someone fix it? Tom 13:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Tried to apply the link suggester to the main page but it flagged a wiki syntax error in the wikitext underlying the main page. Please see http://can-we-link-it.nickj.org/suggest-links/suggester.php?page=Main_Page for the syntax error.
We can only use this link suggester when the syntax error has been resolved, please can someone help? Tom 13:11, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello:
Some of the images on Wikipedia are too small to be read by the human eye alone. For example,the link: French monarchs family tree contains a very small image: Image:France-2ndCapet.png. This image is far too small to be read; And the high resolution download shows text rather than a larger image. How can these tiny images be made bigger and more legible for the human eye?
72.88.150.208 05:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello I would like to say i am very upset that wikipedia does not have a "save, but do not post" button. If, in fact they do have such a feature it needs to be more prominant. I had a very upsetting moment when i was wokring on a new article and I walked to get a drink. When I came back, wikipedia had been closed and all of my hard work lost. It could be placed right next to the save changes and post button. The button would save the article to your contributions. please correct me if I am wrong but I do not believe there is such a way.-- Gwakamoley 18:07, 20 November 2006 (UTC)Gwakamoley
Yes, but I still think that such a feature should still be added... unless it is impossible (if thats what your sayin).-- Gwakamoley 18:20, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Since this morning I've been seeing a horizontal scrollbar in Wikipedia article pages (including user and talk pages, but not the watchlist) in Firefox 2.0. The horizontal scrollbar does not appear in IE. Does anyone know if the CSS or ouputted HTML has changed in MediaWiki. -- Jeff3000 23:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, on the above article section, there's a link that points to a postscript file on someone's web page, but when the article is viewed (using Internet Explorer), it does not show the usual graphic to indicate that the article is a URL rather than a wikipedia entry. -- Rebroad 10:42, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I've been converting a list I'm working on into table form, located at User:VegaDark/Sandbox and I've been inline sourcing every entry. There are so many football players that use the same source that I have gotten past bz on the reference count at the bottom of the page and it is showing some sort of error. Only a developer can add the ability for ca-cz and beyond (by the time I am done, I may need through the d's or e's). Any chance that can happen? Thanks, VegaDark 01:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
ca cb cc cd ce cf cg ch ci cj ck cl cm cn co cp cq cr cs ct cu cv cw cx cy cz
added to the end of it. However, this edit can only be done by an admin.
Tra
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02:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 
in each of them might fix this.
Tra
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16:59, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I know nothing about featured lists specifically, but I'd say the inline citation creep lately has gotten way out of hand if we're getting up to dz in the footnotes. People have, in the past, evaded this problem by including individual notes with page/section/etc numbers and the author's name, and listing the full citation for the work in a separate section (I understand this is common in WP:MILHIST-supported articles). A simple option would be to use the old {{ ref}}/{{ note}} system, which is clunkier in some ways but doesn't produce individual notes for each time a work is cited, or just include a linked asterisk that goes to this particular oft-cited work in place of a note. Don't know if any of those would suit your specific purpose, though. Opabinia regalis 05:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
http://stats.wikimedia.org/ has been completely unaccessible for days now. What's up? -- Derlay 03:16, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that there is now a (replacing page with 'new page content') auto-summary when a vandal blanks a page ( example); however, the one I really liked - the auto-summary that was provided when you make a redirect - is gone. Can the developers bring this one back? :-( Kimchi. sg 13:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I figured it out. Apparently the new redirect autosummary requires there be no space between the "#REDIRECT" and the [[. Kimchi. sg 05:35, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I posted this query on one of the help pages, and somebody suggested I try the Village Pump, too. I'd love to find information on something I know is technically feasible, I'm just not sure we actually do it. I'm interested in what countries' residents give back to the Wikipedia.
For instance, where do the people who contribute to en.wikipedia.org live? Are they primarily in countries where English is the first language? Or are there thousands in places where English is only a second language, but widely spoken, whether that means the Netherlands or India? I'm not interested in whether the contributors are really native English speakers or not (well, I am, but we can't really know that about each one without asking them.) I'm simply interested in where they are, because we can track that through their IP addresses. And of course I'm not interested in who they are, either, this is not an invasion of any individual's privacy. Yes, articles originating in India (according their IP address) could have been written by, say, a Briton temporarily (or even permanently) residing there, but if there are a few hundred thousand articles from non-English speaking countries, I think it would be safe to assume that they weren't all written by expats!
Where do the people live who contribute to es.wikipedia.org? Spain, South America, Central America, the U.S.?
Where do the people who contribute to zh.wikipedia.org live, or ko.wikipedia.org or ... are these people in their respective diasporas, socalled "overseas" Chinese, or Taiwanese, or people living in the People's Republic?
Wouldn't this be easy to track? And might it not give insight into why some Wikipedias grow so much faster than others?
Thanks
Prairie Dad 01:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm having trouble with the following SVG image. The file loads fine in IE and FireFox. Is there something I can do to fix it? - SharkD 09:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Workaround: convert the text to paths (in Inkscape under Path->Object to Path). Don't use line endings, these are problematic as well. Set the line ending to "none" and use separately drawn triangles or arrowheads, positioned appropriately.
BTW, as the image is supposed to show a sphere, I think a perspective similar to this picture, but rotated maybe another 30° to the right might be better. Lupo 12:05, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Someone pointed out above that the fr:IPod article displays its title as "iPod", rather than " IPod" as we do here. This looks much nicer than making the user read "due to technical restrictions, blah blah...". The french wikipedia accomplishes this by adding a site-wide javascript function that checks for the presence of their {{ lowercase}} template, removes the lowercase notice, and changes the title to be the lowercase version. ( search for "RealTitleBanner") If the user doesn't have javascript enabled, it just falls back to displaying the "due to technical restrictions..." blurb.
Gerbrant has managed to get this working on enwiki as well. You can make this work now by adding {{subst: User:Gerbrant/realTitle.js}} to your monobook.js.
This seems safe and useful enough that I'd like to see this added to MediaWiki:Monobook.js. Are there any concerns about this? -- Interiot 01:24, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
addOnloadHook(function() { var rtb = document.getElementById("RealTitleBanner"); if(!rtb ) return; var doctitle = document.getElementById("content"). getElementsByTagName("H1").item(0).innerHTML; if(rtb.substr(0,1).toLowerCase() == doctitle.substr(0,1).toLowerCase()) { rtb.style.display = "none"; document.getElementById("content"). getElementsByTagName("H1").item(0).innerHTML = document.getElementById("RealTitle").innerHTML; } document.title.replace("/^"+doctitle+"/", rtb); });
rtb.substr(0,1).toLowerCase() == doctitle.substr(0,1).toLowerCase()
should only be true if they're the same except for their initial letter's case. Except looking at it again, that's totally stupid and wrong, and should be rtb.substr(0,1).toLowerCase() + rtb.substr(1) == doctitle.substr(0,1).toLowerCase() + doctitle.substr(1)
, I think. Other transformations could also be made, like underscores/spaces (although I guess only ones that are neither the first nor last character?).Also, maybe something could be worked out for the messy cases that preserves pasteability (no, I don't know whether that e belongs there). Like, what if you did something funky with transparency and z-index? Put the real title on top but invisible, the display title underneath and visible. The problem with that would be if the real title is longer than the display title ( C Sharp), people would be prone to select less of the title than they should. Also, it would be distinctly unexpected for the user. I'd stick with canonically equivalent names only for now. — Simetrical ( talk • contribs) 00:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Would it be possible to implement the fix for every article, and then add a mouseover or select event to the title text so that the pasteable text will either appear and/or be copied respectively? -- DavidH Oz Au 03:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I implemented the "check in real-time if it's pasteable, and only replace the <h1> if it is" code (see User:Interiot/js/RealTitle.js). At the same time, that solved another problem I had, that usually a page's namespace usually isn't mentioned in the "due to technical restrictions" blurb (but sometimes it is). So I also automatically detect whether the namespace is there, and add it if it's not (again, to make sure the name is pasteable). At this point, I see no obvious downsides to the script (other than possibly its complexity), so I'd like to try to add it to monospace.js soon unless there are objections. (the minor downsides are that I don't have printing working, and a few weird cases like lac operon don't work, but I think for 97% of its uses, it does the best thing possible) -- Interiot 04:42, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
There are no pictures shown!?! Is there a server problem or something??? Posted By User:JaJaon 165.95.18.61 22:14, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
The new spell checker is great; but did anyone notice how wikipedia, Wikipedia, WikipediA, no matter where you put capital letter is underlined with a red line? I think thats kind of weird and even though it doesn't matter that much, I still think it should be corrected. Pseudoanonymous 21:50, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to take this opportunity to proclaim that Firefox is "for the fucking win", as they say. :) 164.11.204.56 20:49, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
On this pic for example I see a kind of pixelized, crimsoned rings on the background. However nothing like this appeared when I viewed the image on laptop. Is it an image or monitor defect? -- Brand спойт 15:32, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Is there some way of making my top, while-logged-in bar, display a link to my two subpages alongside my main user page? So instead of:
I actually want it to read:
Is there some uncomplicated way to add these pages to the top of my pages, by editing either my Javascript or CSS page, and is all I need to do after that to clear my cache and refresh the page? I'm not experienced in either medium but have always wanted to do this for quick access. Ideally the bar should still be on the right-hand side at the top. Thank you. Bobo . 07:56, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
function getUserSpaceWikiLink(page, name) { return getWikiLink('User:'+wgUserName+'/'+page, (name?name:page)); } function getWikiLink(page, name) { return '<a href="'+wgArticlePath.replace(/\$1/, page)+'">'+(name?name:page)+'</a>'; } function insertUserLink(id, page, name) { var talklink = document.getElementById('pt-mytalk'); var newuserlink = document.createElement('LI'); newuserlink.id = 'pt-' + id; newuserlink.innerHTML = getUserSpaceWikiLink(page, (name?name:page)); talklink.parentNode.insertBefore(newuserlink, talklink); } addOnloadHook(function () { insertUserLink('sandbox', 'Sandbox'); insertUserLink('map', 'MAP'); });
function ppersonal() { var tb = document.getElementById('p-personal').getElementsByTagName('ul')[0]; addlilink(tb, '/wiki/User:Bobo192/MAP', 'MAP', 'p-map', 'User:Bobo192/MAP', '1'); addlilink(tb, '/wiki/User:Bobo192/Sandbox', 'Sandbox', 'p-sandbox', 'User:Bobo192/MAP', '2'); } addOnloadHook(ppersonal); function addlilink(tabs, url, name, id, title, key) { var na = document.createElement('a'); na.href = url; na.appendChild(document.createTextNode(name)); var li = document.createElement('li'); if(id) li.id = id; li.appendChild(na); tabs.appendChild(li); if(id) { if(key && title) { ta[id] = [key, title]; } else if(key) { ta[id] = [key, '']; } else if(title) { ta[id] = ['', title]; } } // re-render the title and accesskeys from existing code in wikibits.js akeytt(); return li; }
I don't know whether this is the right place to propose a feature for MediaWiki... but since this is the largest use of the software (and the only place I have an account) I'll try to get a discussion started here. I know that when a page is edited, the MediaWiki software makes a null edit to all pages that transclude that page. My question is... would it be possible (or "feasible" -- I'm a developer so I know how annoying the phrase "is it possible" is) to be able to watch those null edits as well as regular edits, so essentially I could be alerted when anything on a certain page is edited? For instance, if I was watching Wikipedia:Requests for adminship, I would see a notice that a change was made when any of the subpages were edited. I personally would find this very useful... anyone know if it could ever get added to the software? -- Renesis ( talk) 07:43, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I got a quaestion. In this news article, they said that they have fixed the recent changes so you could see how many characters were added and remove to remove vandalism. But I can't see this feature, is this because I'm using the wrong computer, or is it because this feature hasn't been uploaded yet in the recent changes.-- PrestonH 05:26, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I was editing Lennart Axelsson. For some reason, the page is omitting the references section that I added and two templates after it (that I also added). Why? - Will Pittenger 03:49, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I just noticed the change as that article was listed before this page in my watchlist. I supposed I should have noticed it. Sorry to bother you. Will ( Talk - contribs) 05:44, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
For the last few days, whenever I search for any page on Wikipedia that doesn't exist, the "There was a problem with your search" text comes up every time, with the Google and Yahoo links. – The Gr e at Llama moo? 02:50, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Over at WP:AN3RR, violation reports are very time-consuming to fill out. Going back and forth from page history and noticeboard, copying all the diff urls as well as timestamps (that's a minimum of five diffs and five timestamps, back and forth makes that a minimum of twenty page switches). It would be more than awesome to have some kind of automated system that helps the user fill out a report. Anybody feel my pain? — coelacan talk — 00:41, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
More JS issues that I've been having. As you can see if you view the source of any Wikipedia page, there is a Javascript near the top that defines several variables, including skin="monobook";
or skin="standard";
for classic. I have tried to take advantage of this in several scripts:
function myFunction() { //Function code } if(skin=="standard") { addOnloadHook(myFunction()); }
I see no reason why the conditional statement shouldn't work, because it works fine once the conditional is commented out. You can see some examples at User:Karl Dickman/standard.js and User:Userscripts/Editcount link/source.js. Karl Dickman talk 23:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
addOnloadHook(myFunction()
needs to be addOnloadHook(myFunction());
(possibly JS lets you omit the semicolon, I don't recall). —
Simetrical (
talk •
contribs)
20:57, 15 December 2006 (UTC)To clarify: my bad JS above (the unclosed brackets and badly formed comments) are not problems with my original code. My original code works, as can be attested to both by some thorough parsing on my part and by Firefox's JS console.
Also, if "that js" refers to the script that assigns var skin="skin name"
, then it doesn't just load for the standard skin, it loads for any skin. Check the source of a page with monobook.
Karl Dickman
talk
04:39, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
What about
User:Userscripts/Editcount link/source.js. This script is not skin-specific, and is meant to be copied to other user's scripts with document.write
. Yet the addition of a test for the skin caused the script to break. Why?
I am trying to find the correct tag for some images. They are copywrited by my local newspaper company, but I have permission from the media coordinator to use them. What image tag should I use so they are not deleteted? Cabman
In a template that I am placing on a talk page I assigning a Catagory. Right now it is set up with {{PAGENAME}}. Unfourtunatly this is setting the talk page into the Castagory where I would like the parent of the talk page in the Catagory to show. Does anyone know a method of doing this? Markco1 23:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
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I love the site but is there dicussion of a better search engine? I can find information easier using Google to search for information in Wikipedia than searching in Wikipedia. For instance, I did a search for GDDI in Wikipedia and it returned with no information about GDDI in Wikipedia but if I do a Google search, then it refers me to the page in Wikipedia that I can find it. So this is a great concept but if you can't search it, then it is no serving it's purpose.
Thanks, Carl
I just came upon a similar problem and not sure if this needs a bug report or if I am missing something. I did a search for "Goertzel" and Wikipedia returned 0 search results, however, there is clearly an article titled "Goertzel algorithm". Why did a search for a word contained in an article title not return a result for that article? -- MattWatt 01:58, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I have no idea how to create a bot, but I think a bot for removing red links would be a good idea.
No removing the word (e.g. Sir Colt Watson would become merely Sir Colt Watson, the [[]] would be reomved. Any thoughts? Do we have one already?
†he Bread 02:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Is it possible for someone to make a bot that can view external links on the pages and decide wether they are dead or not? |The Placebo Effect 01:29, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Before upgrading to IE7, I could usually enter changes, visit another page, and come back without losing the changes. However, IE7 seems to auto-refresh whenever I use the "back" button, and any unsaved changes would be lost. Does anyone know how to disable the auto-refreshing? Thanks. -- Ixfd64 01:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
I am a new user to editing. I just edited my school's page, but noticed that it was getting vandalized a bunch, mostly by people from my school while school was in session. Is there a way I can just block unrregistered users from my school from editing that page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cabman ( talk • contribs)
I'm a fairly experienced editor, but I've never had the occasion to use any automated robots. Right now I have a task which I think would be perfect for a robot to a one-time job. However, I have no idea how to use or create them (I'm a programmer by trade, so I'm fairly technically adept). I need to update all the links from Accolade (company) to Accolade (company). Anyone know how to get (or develop) a wiki-robot to do this? TIA! — Frecklefoot | Talk 16:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Images_to_improve#Relationship_between_dBu_and_dBm. Some characters are out of line with others, and the subscript doesn't show up. It renders fine in Inkscape and I'd like to tweak the SVG to make it work on our site, instead of converting the text to paths or some other workaround. I'd like to be able to make things display consistently in the future. — Omegatron 15:38, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
If you transclude a page through a transcluded template, is there any way to make the little [edit] boxes next to the headings in the transcluded page not edit the template instead, or, at least, to suppress them? For an example of what I'm doing, check out the transcluded Peer review on Talk:Charles Darwin. Adam Cuerden talk 04:22, 13 December 2006 (UTC) I've removed it from there, since it also breaks edit functionality, but since it mostly works on other pages (except the auto-set header....
{{peer review transclusion|link=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography/Peer_review/Charles Darwin}}
I suggest removing it once everyone's had a chance to look.
I'm using Opera 9.02 and the IPA transcriptions are giving me considerable trouble since ɪ and ː appear the same to me. Which font should I change to make them display differently? eszett talk 02:25, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
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Nethac DIU, always would speak
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Finally found the cause of this longstanding bug. It's a Firefox upgrade bug, one most likely to be seen by users who upgraded from Firefox 1.0 to 1.5 or later. In 1.0, there was a configuration checkbox to turn off image changing from Javascript, which was an early way to block ads. In 1.5, the checkbox was removed. But the 1.0 to 1.5 upgrader didn't reset the related configuration parameter. So now the user is stuck.
Then, a few months back, the Wikimedia developers got fancy and started building the toolbar entirely in Javascript. Images inserted that way were thus blocked.
If you have this problem, here's the fix.
The buttons should reappear.
See Wikimedia bug #5747 for details. -- John Nagle 06:33, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
As a result of deleting superfluous fonts I am now getting Wikipedia pages in an ugly upper case type. What font should be used to display the headings and articles? Laurie
{{ Computer Magazines}} is broken and breaking layout on pages it's on because it's transcluding {{ sprotected2}} from somewhere, even though it's not directly included. I looked at both {{ tnavbar}} and {{ navbar-header}} and can't seem to figure out how it's getting into the other template. Anyone know where this is coming from? Hmm, it's been fixed now. found the culprit [12]. Night Gyr ( talk/ Oy) 23:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
From Wikipedia talk:Citing sources. Some articles have understandably large reference sections. Now I'm all for this but some have observed that it makes the articles a bit unwieldy and bottom-heavy, even with two-row formatting and tiny text. I'd rather not crop references to correct this (as has been suggested elsewhere). Would it be possible for us to impliment a "hide" function for references in the same manner as the contents sections can be shown/hidden? Sockatume 21:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
See this discussion. JoshuaZ 18:19, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
It's come to my attention that IE6 does something bizarre when previewing an edit. Try editing a page, click preview, and scroll down about to where the edit summary should usually go. The exact nature of the problem is well over my head, but it's clear that something isn't parsing quite right. Ideas? Luna Santin 10:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
After some further investigation between the two of us, we seem to have tracked it down to wikitables which include "align=center" -- case in point:
{| |- | |}
Works fine.
{| align=center |- | |}
Borked, as described above. Luna Santin 10:36, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I notice that sometimes I see an item in my watchlist, then when I do a page refresh it disappears. Why is that? It makes me think that I can't rely on my watchlist to keep me informed of changes. Thanks! Tanaats 05:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
If I am not an administrator, how am I able to revert nonsense added by IP addresses? Kaspazes 13:50, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
The semi-protectection on my userpage undid itself... I know this because my userpage was vandalized by an IP recently. (See the most recent history of my userpage.) What gives? Is this normal? There is no log entry of it being removed. Grand master ka 03:13, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be great to be able to add a page to your watchlist for a specfied period of time, say, 2 days? You could watch talk pages on which you have posted, or articles where you have reverted vandalism, without ending up with a 971 (and counting...) page watchlist. Solutions? yandman 18:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
on Noctuinae can't get it right, can someone pls suggest how they would fix this up? -- Librarianofages 02:02, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
This is a pretty minor issue in the scheme of things, but is there a particular reason why watchlists and related changes pages list the links in the order (diff) (hist), but lists of contributions have them in the order (hist) (diff)? Amazingly, I never noticed this until today. Opabinia regalis 05:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I am entering this under your heading because it has to do with this diff/history link: when reviewing the changes under "Diff", there is a line number listed which locates the change in reference to the line number. How can I locate the line number in an artice? I couldn't find the answer in any of the help articles. Thanks! Richiar 17:20, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Could the <ref name=""></ref> be somehow modified to be used both a link within the body paragraph & be listed in the </references> list?
In the Takeshima Island article, there were two links on aerial & water level views of a geographical feature of the island. I want the two links to show up both in the article as examples & also as references. ( Wikimachine 20:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC))
A search engine [http://www.google.com]<ref>[http://www.google.com Google.com]</ref>
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21:52, 10 December 2006 (UTC)wondering whether i can read my watchlist via rss. i know that rc is available. asked at the helpdesk, was directed here. gracias. ... aa: talk 07:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Lots of pages have been vandalized with Image:Testicles close-up.jpg. The image isn't in the editing box and it's on tonnes of pages. :/ – Zntrip 06:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
To avoid confusion, the article Jam sandwich needs to have it's primary name changed to it's redirect name Jam sandwich (slang), and then I want to make Jam sandwich into a dab page, pointing to Jam sandwich (slang) and Sandwich, but I cannnot do the move. -- ArmadilloFromHellGateBridge 20:26, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I created DiaoyuDao ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) as a redirect to Uotsuri Jima (1st edit). Another new editor blanked the page (2nd edit). I rolled it back. The page now redirects to Uotsuri Jima again, but my last rollback is not in the edit history'. Not sure what exactly happened. I am just curious, since the redirect I created was a typo anyway (should be Diaoyu Dao), it could be deleted. I just wanted to know beforehand what happened. Many thanks -- Chris 73 | Talk 10:39, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Is this tool really defunct? -- Brand спойт 23:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Apologies if this is in the wrong section. The "otherpeople" template says: "for other persons named...". This is grammatically incorrect, the plural of "person" is "people". So the template should read: "for other people named..." -- Salsa man 22:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
I just noticed this site which appears to be some sort of mirror of our content, but in a commercial venue. I'm curious as to whether or not this is appropriate usage? I recall a similar situation (possibly with this same site), that was considered "not acceptable", but I'm unfamiliar with the technicalities. If this is not the right place to mention this, could someone more experienced give me a pointer to the correct page? Thanks. Doc Tropics 21:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
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Graphic Lab have Started on Wikipedia-en. You can help by reading its Main page, and helping to its improvement.
The Graphic Lab need some active users and graphists to start and improve it, raise graphic request,and make images improvement.
To request graphic improvement, please see the newly open
Graphic Lab/Images to improve (copied from
Deutsch and
Français).
Please, talk about this to other users who can be interesting by graphism, requesting images improvement or creation, and people interesting by photographs.
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Hi umm...does anybody see a giant thumb where the mediawiki logo should be? Basically this only appears when I use firefox and it is normal of Internet explorer. Earlier there was a pirate flag and a PI sign in place of the logo...but right now there is a giant thumb. What is going on. — Seadog 01:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Is there any way to watch a page's 'what links here', ie so that when a new link is made to that page it shows up in my watchlist? I ask because there's a couple of disambig pages I like to keep an eye on, dabbing when necessary, and it would be save me having to remember to periodically go to the page to check (they're pages which periodically get a lot of new wrong links) DuncanHill 16:43, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
In "my preferences", I have the edit box as 25 rows of 80 chars. I use the classic skin on MSIE6 on Win2000 and I find that recently (several weeks) the edit box is no longer 80 * 25 but dynamically sized. Apart from the fact that I'd much prefer it if it didn't dynamically resize, the resize is wrong and the right edge of the edit box is off the right of the window pane. If I resize the window the box fits in the pane until I start typing again when it immediately becomes too big again. The scroll bar is already fully right, so access to this area of the box is impossible. What can I do to fix it? -- SGBailey 09:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Does anybody know why two paragraphs of source text are sometimes rendered as one paragraph on the page, and how to fix it? This is happening at Banksia epica. The Description section is rendering as one long paragraph, even though the wiki source is clearly written in two paragraphs, with a blank line between them. One blank line between the paragraphs is ignored; two blank lines is correctly rendered as too much whitespace. Hesperian 04:43, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
''B. epica''<div/>'s
. The <div/>
was intended to stop the triple apostrophe from rendering as bold, but that kind of self-closing style isn't recognized by many browsers and consequently not by the parser, so it interpreted it as opening a div and that led to all kinds of weirdness. If it had worked, it would end up looking like B. epica's with a line break, anyway (except that strangely something is stripping that altogether, feh).I switched to the usual <nowiki> instead, anyway, and now it's displaying fine. — Simetrical ( talk • contribs) 05:13, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
<div/>
in the article, plus at least one case with no delimiter at all. I fixed them to use <span/>
, which is only one character longer but less likely to cause problems (being a text-level element, not a block-level one like div). Of course, Simetrical's <nowiki> trick works just as well. —
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