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I posted the above design to the usability wiki a few months ago and not much has happened since. I imagine that the system uses AJAX categories to organize the hierarchy. When a user selects a template they'll be prompted to fill in parameters (similar to wikia). There needs to be more machine readable meta-data for this to happen, see DBpedia discussions. — Dispenser 05:38, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
I cropped this image for a DYK (that appeared on 19-10-09). The cropped version is seen in Wikipedia:Recent additions 249, but not in Vamana, Onam etc. articles. What is the problem? -- Redtigerxyz Talk 06:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
I tried to fix /Archive 67 after ClueBot's error. Can somebody check that I didn't forget some thread? Was this the only broken page? (Since that error was with ClueBot's “unarchiving” and I didn't find any other in its recent contributions, I hope it was.) I also turned on archiving of this VP by MiszaBot (and turned off ClueBot), because ClueBot isn't currently working. Are there any other pages that should be switched? Svick ( talk) 22:07, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
The category Category:Noindexed pages is added automatically when the magic word __NOINDEX__ is used in a permissible namespace, that magic word is also added by template:NOINDEX, which also adds Category:Noindexed pages (relics from when the autocategorization didn't exist), so this adds redundancy and lists pages which are in fact not noindexed, for example those in mainspace - so the categorization can be wrong. Thus I propose we depopulate Category:Noindexed pages, starting by removing it from template:NOINDEX.
Also, it seems possible to filter Category:Noindexed pages by namespace via MediaWiki:Noindex-category, I'm not sure there's interest in dividing by namespaces, let me know what you think; we could at least distinguish between pages and categories, explicitly with
{{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{ns:category}}|Noindexed categories|Noindexed pages}}
. Cenarium ( talk) 01:01, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
If I attempt to visit any Wikipedia page on my home computer, my Firefox crashes. This is a new phenomenon since the end of September 2009 (I've been away). Is there anything I can do to my Firefox settings to fix this problem? I'd rather not go for an update because when it works my present version of Firefox runs much faster than newer ones do.
(Sorry, I don't know the version number, but it was installed in August 2004)
David Fremlin, 28 Nov 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.31.207.41 ( talk) 18:26, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for replying so promptly! It's "version 1.0", so I see that it was a bit of an antique when I got it -- Yes, other sites have given the same problem, I just didn't care so much -- It doesn't freeze, it dies altogether, reporting "segmentation fault" (I have some sort of Red Hat, I believe). I note that the other computer I'm typing on now, though it can cope with Wikipedia pages, is spectacularly slow.
P.S. This page crashes my Firefox too. I wonder if the trouble is in the left-hand column? presumably this is in a different frame from the rest? David —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.31.207.41 ( talk) 10:16, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I've written a couple of templates on Wikipedia. It is much like trying to paint with your hands cuffed behind you. It is very limited as a programming language. In my initial attempts to search for more information on Templates and how to manipulate variables/looping, I found this past discussion on the Village Pump [1] that followed a question about whether the Variables extension was installed. Anomie posted a link to a discussion about extending the programming language on wikipedia [2]. When I asked Anomie recently if anything came out of this discussion, she said this:
My question is, are there any statistics on how many sites there are using Wikipedia software, that on restrictive hosting such that they would have to be able to reuse the Wikipedia templates? What percentage of the user base are they talking about? Thanks stmrlbs| talk 18:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I have submitted a bug report to make searching the deletion logs more user friendly and consistent with search engine usage on the internet. At the present time, you have to enter the exact title, with the exact punctuation of the article deleted, in order to find information on deletion log about that article. The log search should work like other searches, and should be able to find information on a deleted article based on a keyword from the article title. This would cut down on confusion by people using the log search like they use all other searches in Wikipedia and not being able to find information on an article. If you agree with this enhancement/bug, please vote for this report on bugzilla: Bug#21555: search on keyword - rather than requiring exact title including punctuation. Thanks. stmrlbs| talk 01:42, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Toolserver IP, 91.198.174.201 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS), is editing logged-out again. Why can't that IP be soft-blocked? There is no reason for it to ever edit logged-out, is there? Wknight94 talk 15:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Anyone familiar with the code have any feel for the effort to add per-page granularity to user blocks: For example, if an administrator wanted to block a user from page X or all pages in category Y, but let him edit the rest of the wiki.
Similarly, how much code change would be needed to grand administrative tools on a per-page basis to a given administrator: For example, allowing a 'crat to give new administrator W the right to delete pages in category X, or block users whose user pages are in category Y or on list Y from editing articles in category Z. Or, more simply, to manage protection on pages in category X.
I would expect this is non-trivial, but is it something that could be made to work in a matter of weeks, a matter of months, or is it bigger than that given the size and workload of the current developers?
See here for the reason I'm asking. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 01:56, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
It's not really difficult to implement, but it's difficult to implement well, without introducing more horrible kludges to the blocking system. — Werdna • talk 00:38, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Didn't we just recently discuss allowing admins to hand down "discretionary per page bans"? And according to the summary at the bottom of the page, did not find consensus for such things? – xeno talk 15:53, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
I doubt it would be accepted on :en any time soon, but some of the smaller wikis might benefit from bots which did specific tasks on behalf of specific, whitelisted users. For example, if an established user was a mentor to a particular user, an admin-bot could be called upon by the mentor to block the protegee. Likewise, members of a vandal-fighting group could have access to a bot that would block users for up to a pre-determined amount of time and protect pages for a pre-determined maximum time.
From a coding-the-bot perspective, does this look hard? To work well on a large wiki and not cause massive confusion, you would need to add "impersonation" to the wiki code, so the bot's actions were logged as the editor not as the bot. Is adding impersonation code a large task? davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 05:53, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Ewwwwww. — Werdna • talk 00:38, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
For some reason, this single edit consisting of one word made the Text all drop to the botton of the biobox? Handicapper ( talk) 16:40, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
The images placed on that ad dont really look well placed, please re place them. Accdude92 ( talk to me!) ( sign) 20:10, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Over at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Philosophy, user:Mr.Z-bot has posted the same message 14 times during the last 40 minutes, would an admin kindly stop it? Paradoctor ( talk) 02:52, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi! I'm asking about syntax for Template:Location map
The Wikipedia page for Pag (town) gives its coordinates as follows:
Template:Location map gives syntax for the same town as follows:
So that's fair enough. However, a page I made has the following:
This gives the right location in Google Maps, Yahoo Maps or the like - cf 59°54′39″N 10°35′31″E / 59.9108°N 10.5920°E - but when I try to insert the numbers into Location map syntax, like this: |lat_deg=59|lat_min=91|lon_deg=10|lon_min=59, I get:
This is not the correct location. I don't really have any idea what minutes and degrees are anyway. What am I doing wrong? Geschichte ( talk) 21:22, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
{{
Location map}}
's lat_deg
and lon_deg
. See example below.
Svick (
talk)
21:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)I wanted to use the donate link. My natural course of action was to middle click the button/link in Firefox and in the meantime continue reading the current page. But since the button is javascript only, this did nothing useful. Does the donate button really need javascript? Why put a small annoying barrier in the way of the main source of funds? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron Lawrence ( talk • contribs) 05:19, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Why image annotation appears only in Commons and not in Wikipedia? Most likely, many people are being unaware. I think it would add EV if fixed. Brand t] 06:58, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I just stumbled on an article, W (Double You), which had an external link below interwiki linking to ThePPN: W. I followed it, and the site that it really links to, http://wiki.theppn.org/W, has moved to a different domain. (ThePPN's former domain, a .org, seems to be owned by a denim company!?) Some searching later, I found that the correct link is to http://wiki.jpopstop.com/wiki/W.
Seeing as there are many other Japanese artist pages that have external links to ThePPN using interwiki links, I decided to do some research and found this on the Help Desk archives: Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2007_June_25#How does this "ThePPN:" link works?, dated 2007.
More research led to this: http://community.livejournal.com/theppnwiki
So, as ThePPN is now Jpop Stop!, can someone with database access go in and systematically remove/replace ThePPN with Jpop Stop! in the interwiki database, and (might as well) do the same in all articles that have links pointing to it? -- Geopgeop ( talk) 11:32, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Why is my !@#$%^&* signature red when almost all others are blue? Coffee and sympathy glad accepted. Can't drink tea.
Tapered ( talk) 01:38, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
My fellow Wikipedians, I am minorly concerned at the speed in which Google lists new articles into its search engine. I do a fair bit of new page patrolling and I tag a lot of pages as copyright violations. In order to find the source of the suspected violations I will copy and paste a few lines of the suspect article into Google. Invariably, the very first thing to appear is the article itself. I just ignore it and go onto the next until I find (or don't find) the source. However, I am just a tad concerned that Google is sucking in and possibly caching a large number of articles that will soon be deleted for a variety of reasons. So, does this present any issue? I think it would be a good idea to have a 12 to 24 hour wait on google listings, just to ensure that the article isn't speedily deleted or subject to other major modifications. Thoughts? Basket of Puppies 19:14, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
{{
NOINDEX}}
unpatrolled pages.
Jehochman
Talk
19:16, 23 November 2009 (UTC)Doesen't COI BOT do searches for new pages and tag them if they are copy-paste's? Tim1357 ( talk) 17:00, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Can I remind everyone that one of the strongest pillars of Wikipedia atm, is it's current events coverage ? Putting all new articles in a 24 hour index hold, might significantly hurt ourselves. noindex for unpatrolled pages is something I can imagine, but a 24 hour block seems a bit too much, if it isn't better thought out. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 00:36, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
If successful the cached page of the deleted article will be removed, and all that will remain is the search URL without the cache link, and going only to the deletion notice page.
This cache removal submission to Google could probably be automated as part of the page deletion process. 64.91.85.115 ( talk) 20:12, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Oddly, the same discussion seems to be happening at VPR: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Mark_pages_less_than_24_hours_old_for_no-indexing. Personally, I see no policy reason why pages should be indexed immediately (with rare exceptions for topical articles, and I could live with even those waiting 24 hours - WP:NOTNEWS). Rd232 talk 22:24, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
In the article Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, the numbering of the notes in the text and those in the "References and Notes" sections don't match. For example, the note numbered [2] in the infobox links to 19; hence all numbers between 3 and 18 inclusive link incorrectly. I've tried making a trivial edit and re-saving, but it doesn't make any difference. So I assume there must be some kind of technical error. Could someone knowledgeable look at this please? Peter coxhead ( talk) 10:56, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
We now have a new central page for discussing MediaWiki interface messages: Wikipedia:MediaWiki messages. It is kind of a "Village pump (MediaWiki messages)". So ladies and gentlemen, if MediaWiki interface messages interest you, consider adding that page to your watchlist.
-- David Göthberg ( talk) 20:14, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
A user has suggested that we delete all MediaWiki messages which are now identical to the default messages, since he has heard that performance is slightly improved if the local MediaWiki message is deleted (or remains uncreated). This concerns a couple of hundred interface messages. If anyone knows anything about this, would you care to comment over at Wikipedia:MediaWiki messages#MediaWiki:1movedto2?
-- David Göthberg ( talk) 19:15, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
When uploading an image, occasionally I get this dialog box. Perhaps 1 time out of 20. It always hangs at 0% and I have to restart the process to upload the file, then this dialog does not pop up. Any ideas on what is triggering this? ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 21:14, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
|http://en.wikipedia.org/w/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/*
Previous: Main space right-aligned title elements broken again
Is this a serious enough problem in article space for someone to fix now? OrangeDog ( τ • ε) 13:14, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
<span id="coordinates">
<span style="position:absolute; z-index:60; right:35px; top:-40px;">
#bodyContent { position:relative; }
topicon {
top:-3em !important;
}
#coordinates{
top:-1em !important;
right: 0px; !important;
}
appendCSS('#siteSub {display:none !important} \n#bodyContent { position:relative; } \n.topicon { top:-3em !important; } \n#coordinates{ top:-1em !important; right: 0px !important; }');
I think wikipedia is a brilliant project. However one thing is still missing, that might enhance systems usability greatly. It should be possible to search by means of any combination of keywords. Then a specialt page should appear containing links to every one of the matching articles. Ideally the following (advanced) search possibilities should exist side by side:
1. Only the articles containing ALL the keywords (in a text-field for this) shorld be found. 2. Only the articles NOT containing any of the keywords (in a text field for this) should be found. 3. Only articles containing ANY of the keywords (in a text field for this) should be found.
If only one search filed is provided, a syntax using & for logical AND, | for logical OR, and ! for logical NOT (perhaps even including the use of parentheses)
An example: I wish to find all the articles containing the words Cowboy and Indian but neither the word Movie nor the word Fiction. Then I might use this search-string:
Cowboy & Indian & !(Movie | Fiction)
Harlekin96 ( talk) 07:02, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Is there an easy way to search my own contributions (or any user's) for new pages? I am just trying to get a list of articles I have created.— NMajdan• talk 19:31, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
I have figured out how to get rid of the problems that the Usability Initiative was causing me.
I guess many of you by now have heard about the Usability Initiative. And that you have noticed the problems it causes, since they are inserting experimental code. It seems that users are randomly picked to for instance run their ClickTracking JavaScript and new features, so the usability people can test and study how we behave and how their new features work. And it seems each user runs this for some hours, then it is turned off and perhaps comes back some hours the next day, and so on. So far so good, I don't mind that.
However, I have an old computer, so loading and running all their code make my page loads ridiculously slow. And sometimes their code is very buggy and causes all kinds of problems. I am here to code templates and do other productive stuff, so I don't have the time to be their guinea pig. So I figured out how to get rid of this problem:
I have Firefox with the excellent add-on "Adblock Plus". So I added this rule to its filters:
|http://en.wikipedia.org/w/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/*
That rule blocks all the JavaScript and CSS files from the Usability Initiative. And wow! Now I can edit Wikipedia again! And pages are rendered at an acceptable speed again.
And before anyone says: "That was probably just a coincidence". Well, I have tried every now and then to turn that rule off, and every time I have it off (and at the same time is picked to run their experimental code), then things get slow and buggy again. And I have read their code, it repeatedly uses functions that we tell our JavaScript coders here to avoid, since we know those functions slow things down too much. So no, it isn't a coincidence.
Don't add that rule to your Adblock filtering (or whatever ad-blocking program you have in your browser) if you are using the Vector skin, since the Vector skin is dependant on the Usability code.
-- David Göthberg ( talk) 05:28, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
getElementsByClassName()
function. It is a very heavy function. So the more experienced JavaScript coders here have told us to avoid that function. And I see that those experienced coders themselves go to great lengths in their own codes to avoid using that function. But I know it is a very nifty function, I have been tempted to use it myself...Trying to enter an rfc on a discussion page. It seems to require a verticle straight line which doesn't exist on my 9 yr old keyboard. Can any other character be substituted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tapered ( talk • contribs) 07:27, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
\
) only with Shift pressed. Have you tried using English keyboard layout, if you are using other national layout? As a last resort, you can always
copy it from somewhere (e.g. here: |
). Also, depending on what exactly do you need it, it could be substituted by the string {{subst:!}}
.
Svick (
talk)
09:06, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
{{}} {{{}}} | [] [[]]
and more stuff. The pipe symbol is between the triple-curly brackets and single-square brackets.~ | ¡ ¿ † ‡
and more stuff. The pipe symbol is second (between tilde and upside-down exclamation point).˩ ꜛ ꜜ | ‖ ↗ ↘ k͈ s͎ {{IPA|}}
. The pipe symbol is just before the double bar and the two diagonal arrows. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
16:41, 2 December 2009 (UTC)First, thanks for all the help and the informative discussion. It IS the character over backslash, in spite the deceptive symbol on the key. Is this the same for Apple products? Before I discovered this, I resorted to copy and paste. Thanks again Wikipedians! Tapered ( talk) 22:19, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Is there any way to view a block log for an entire CIDR range, as opposed to IP-by-IP? Thanks. — Zach425 talk/ contribs 18:19, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
I think a tool that selected a random article from a category would be useful in maintaining Wikipedia. Currently we have several housekeeping categories, e.g. Category:Unreferenced BLPs, that have a large number of entries, filling many pages. An editor wishing to spend a little time on cleanup, must do some work to find a good place to start. A random-article-in-category widget could be added to such category pages or to pages listing cleanup work that needs doing. It shouldn't be hard to implement and I think it would make cleanup chores more enjoyable and hence there'd be more effort put in to badly needed work.-- agr ( talk) 22:20, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Amideg On December 1, 2009, I made edits and added references to the article mentioned above. All edits and references were deleted after less than half an hour by editor named ItsmeJudith. Today, December 3rd,I see that my edits and references of December 1st no longer appear on the history page of the article, nor is there any trace of ItsmeJudith's deletions. How is this possible?? Amideg ( talk) 15:04, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Does anyone here know VB and so could help out with the Kingbotk plugin. It's not working to spec in the new builds of AWB per Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs#Kingbotk plugin not assessing in SVN version. Thanks. Hiding T 17:28, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Just posted my first RfC. I listed two categories. It has only appeared in the list of the first category. The article is in this category, but for the issue in question, the second category is probably more relevant and likely to draw comment.
Question: does only the first category automatically post the its respective list? If so is there a way to post to the second list? If not, is it permissible to reverse the order of listing to post to the more relevant list? Do I need to delete and start over?
Tapered ( talk) 22:33, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
{{
rfctag}}
with multiple parameters to list a RfC in more categories. I merged the {{rfctag}}
s in your RfC this way, so, hopefully,
RFC bot will figure it out. If not,
you can add the RfC to the second category manually, but then don't forget to remove it after the RfC ends.
Svick (
talk)
00:43, 4 December 2009 (UTC)Thanks. Now I understand. My hasty reading and the way it's illustrated led me to believe I'd done it the right way. Thanks again. 69.226.245.37 ( talk) 04:40, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
anyone else noticed this? YellowMonkey ( bananabucket) ( Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 01:05, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
It's known, the smart people are looking at it. Should be good once the replag comes back down.
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03:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
I logged in a couple minutes ago and saw the "new messages" orange bar appear on my screen. I clicked on the link and went to my talk page, then clicked on my watchlist; however, the orange bar did not disappear when I clicked away from my talk page, and in this very edit screen that I am writing this message the bar is still there. This problem persists even after logging out, closing and re-opening my browser, and logging in again. Does anyone know how to remove it? I have purged and bypassed my cache, and have Firefox 3 on Windows XP. Thanks, Dabomb87 ( talk) 01:06, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
On November 22 I submitted a new article on Harry H. Halsell, but as of today it does not show up in a search, nor do preexisting links to this subject (such as may be found in the article on Grace Halsell) indicate that it exists. The article does appear under my contributions, but does not seem to be available to the general public. As far as I can tell, I followed the guidelines for submission, and have found nothing in the help files to indicate why it wouldn't appear. Any ideas what's going on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xenon456 ( talk • contribs) 04:09, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it exists... It's unsustainable though, so there's no real point in having it... except if the category is automatically added by the software. This seems possible, since it's done for example with Category:Noindexed pages. But it should be only for redirects in mainspace; or there should be a category of redirects for each namespace. So, do you think we should request this at bugzilla, for the mainspace at least ? Cenarium ( talk) 00:02, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
I have found some advantages in an automatic categorization of redirects though: we can see recent changes to redirects, on the category page it provides a link for new/inexperienced users who are often confused by them, and if T20596 is resolved, we'll be able to know if a page is a redirect in the interface (so editnotice for redirects, useful for new users). Cenarium ( talk) 04:28, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
OK some categories of redirects are useful - "with possibilities" is the one that springs to mind. Therefore screening all redirects to see if they are in that category is also useful. The use of an "uncategorized category" is a way to do that, as is maybe the category "redirects". Rich Farmbrough, 21:50, 15 November 2009 (UTC).
So back to the original point, should we request at bugzilla that all redirects in mainspace be automatically categorized (like noindexed pages) in a category such as Category:Redirects ? It would offer several advantages:
Cenarium ( talk) 22:27, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
page.page_is_redirect
), so this should be a cinch. —
This, that, and
the other (talk)
06:37, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Not sure if this is the right spot to start this discussion, but... Is it possible that when someone uploads a file that immediately is tagged at upload with the Only non-commercial or educational use of this file is permitted restriction (& the F3 template is added) - that at the same time the same warning template is placed on the uploader's talk page. I don't think this would be bot-worthy, as the files are usually deleted very quickly. The reason for this is that the uploaders often do not read this warning, and other users (admins) are forced to repeat the warning message when explaining why the image/file was deleted. Suggestions? Skier Dude ( talk) 04:08, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm looking for a way to see if a newly created page has been previously deleted. Is such a privilege available to mere mortals (or rollbackers or the auto-confirmed or whatever). I see there was some discussion on view-deleted-pages that appears to be on hold.-- RadioFan ( talk) 21:06, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
I would like to search, for example, prefix: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests but only the main page (where the arbcom decisions have been made) not the subpages, "Workshop" "Evidence" etc.
Is that possible?
Examples are always best, so lets say for example I am searching for the word "decorum" a favorite of the Arbcom.
Thank you. Ikip ( talk) 21:38, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Why not create an expert forum to find new ideas or technical solutions to reduce costs of wikipedia?
To do this we need first to Know how are composed costs of wikipedia.
And than experts had to write ideas and envolve other experts to find new solutions
We can create some general issiues like:
- how to reduce energy consumption
- how to reduce CPU usage
- how to use (if it is possible) CPUs of online users instead of server CPU
- how to reduce band used
- how to improve caching
- how to reduce total byte downloaded by users
- how to etc....
Can anyone post some informations about costs of maintenance of wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.4.249.168 ( talk) 11:15, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
WP:DevMemo for November 2009 ( Wikipedia:MediaWiki/DeveloperMemo/November2009) is now closed, awaiting a response from developers. (The next one, Wikipedia:MediaWiki/DeveloperMemo/December2009 is now in draft, seeded with the old issues.) Could someone please notify developers of the memo, and ask them to respond to the November memo? Thanks. Rd232 talk 19:54, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Could we have more input on the proposed autocategorization of redirects: more support would be needed for a site request. Thanks, Cenarium ( talk) 23:19, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
(I tried to find some help on IRC but there doesn't seem to be anyone available right now.)
I'm trying to replace
[http://www.sclegacy.com/encyclopedia/starcraft_story.php#(\S+) Transcript]
with
[http://web.archive.org/web/20040810213217/http://www.sclegacy.com/encyclopedia/starcraft_story.php#$1 Transcript] (Archived from [http://www.sclegacy.com/encyclopedia/starcraft_story.php#$1 the original] on 2004-10-08)
Basically, just tacking a web.archive.org link to the front of dead links, and using the backreference to preserve the anchor that was in the original hook. rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 23:29, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
\[http://www.sclegacy.com/encyclopedia/starcraft_story.php#(\S+) Transcript\]
I have written a page explaining the secure server: Wikipedia:Secure server. I'd like some native English speakers and some technically minded people to check if anything needs fixing. (I'm not a native English speaker.) And I'd love questions from beginners on its talk page, since then we will know if any part of that page is unclear.
I made that page since there seems to be no documentation anywhere about the secure server. I have searched the English editions of all the Wikimedia projects.
When that page feels ready, then I intend to add a link to that page from the secure server login page. See MediaWiki talk:Loginend#Brush-up of code.
-- David Göthberg ( talk) 15:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
We are also doing some other changes to the log in page. See MediaWiki talk:Loginend#Brush-up of code. (I forgot to mention that in the above section.)
-- David Göthberg ( talk) 09:11, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
I've seen two occurrences where saving a comment apparently deleted previously saved comments. Both saving editors indicate they got no "edit conflict" (or any notice of problem). Both were baffled and apologetic when their (unintentional) deletions were brought to their attention.
The two diffs I've seen.
New problem? Proofreader77 ( talk) 22:09, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
A while back, I made {{ mountain index row}} to help create tables for mountain set index articles. But, the template has been broken, and intermittently emits spurious carriage returns. See, e.g., List of peaks named Bear Mountain for the problem.
Can a template expert help me fix this template? I've been puzzled about this for a long time. Please respond at Template talk:Mountain index row ( | template | history | links | watch | logs). Thanks!! — hike395 ( talk) 04:33, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
WP:PUNC says to use typewriter/straight apostrophes and quotes ('' and "") and not typographic/curly apostrophes and quotes (‘’ and “”). However, beneath the edit window and the "Save page" etc. buttons, the Insert menu begins with
– — ‘’ “” ° ″ ′ ≈
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the third and fourth clickable items here look awfully like curly apostrophes and quotes. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 15:23, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
When I was working on an unblock request for an IP user, I checked the contributions log and saw a block notification at the top of the page. All well and good, except that the block notification was from a block issued for 2 weeks on January 15th of this year. Is this a bug? - Jeremy ( v^_^v Stop... at a WHAMMY!!) 20:25, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
01:16, November 30, 2009, Dominic (talk | contribs | block) blocked 207.69.136.0/22 (talk) (expires on December 14, 2009 at 01:16, anon. only, account creation blocked) ({{checkuserblock}}) (unblock | change block)
My regular Firefox browser (version 1.0, 2004) crashes whenever I try to access a Wikipedia page. Does anybody know what's happening? can this be fixed by changing the settings? (I asked this before, but the thread seems to have vanished.) Fremdh ( talk) 16:18, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks everybody, but I'd have liked an answer to my question... Fremdh ( talk) 11:48, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Look: Wikipedia is supposed to be for everybody, not just those with equipment and software younger than their pet mice. Pretty clearly nobody knows what's caused the problem. I think it must be in a stylesheet change sometime in the last three months; I say this because if I copy a Wikipedia page to my own site, it loads perfectly well, though of course without most of its decorations. I don't believe that the change was in any strict sense necessary (did any of you notice a change in the general formatting of Wikipedia pages?), and I think Wikipedia should try to avoid such tinkering as far as possible. Fremdh ( talk) 10:39, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Problem solved: block javascript. There is a downside to this, but I can live with it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fremdh ( talk • contribs) 20:24, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
actually, firefox crashes regularly when I go to wikipedia - it seems to hang on an editing cycle (hangs on a preview or save). I have version 3.5.5. It doesn't crash me anywhere else except on a wikipedia edit cycle. However, I have determined it must be one of my add-ons. It doesn't seem to happen when I bring up Firefox in safe mode. So.. if I figure out which add-on is causing the problem, I will post it here. The problem is that it doesn't happen all the time. It seems to take repeated views in the edit cycle for it to happen. So - I will just keep playing around with it until I can narrow it down. stmrlbs| talk 22:29, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Some other language versions of the project use just a superscripted number to denote a footnote, but the English version uses a number in square brackets. Why is that? Using just a number would be far more pleasing to the eye and would improve readability. - Rrius ( talk) 09:15, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
I've often found myself looking for the © symbol, and it's always a pain to have to go and copy/paste it from elsewhere. Is there any chance it could be added to the insert menu (unless I'm just being dim and it's already there)? PC78 ( talk) 19:47, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
This may be a long shot, but I'm wondering if anyone who has any influence in such matters could press for a long-standing bug (and, for me, regular irritant) in Wikipedia's "diff" generation to be fixed. This is a typical example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nonsuch_Palace&action=historysubmit&diff=328327302&oldid=283689391
You can see that several paragraphs that are identical or substantially identical are flagged as completely different, due to the software getting confused for some reason that I do not fully understand. I believe this is logged as a known issue, and has been for some time, but is seen as low priority and appears unlikely to ever be fixed without a prod from someone. If there is a more appropriate place for me to post this request then please let me know. 86.146.46.190 ( talk) 21:58, 5 December 2009 (UTC).
Hello fine folks. I was think whether it would be possible to provide a login-while-editing option in wikipedia pages. That is, suppose you are not logged in. You want to edit a page, and you want to do it under your ID, not anonymously. Currently you have to first click login which leads you to the login page. Then you enter your login info and click login which leads you back to the article page. Then you click edit and you can edit under your ID. What I am proposing is, can't we provide a system in which you don't have to first login and then click edit. Instead, you simply click edit, and provide the login information on the edit page itself (kinda like what livejournal and blogger do when you want to post a comment). It saves two page-loads (three if you include logging out). This can be very useful for users who want to make a quick edit but don't because they don't want to go through the process of logging in and then logging out. just for a single edit. Such people may either not want to use thet "stay logged-in" option or may be using a different computer. I don't see any problems with protected pages etc. that can't be easily solved while using this scheme. What do you think? -- ReluctantPhilosopher ( talk) 03:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I'm trying to write something up about citation templates and page loading. It appears that when an article contains lots of citation templates, it becomes increasingly slow to load. I don't know whether that's because of the templates directly, or whether it's simply that longer articles may have more templates and the length also happens to make them slow to load. Does anyone know the answer? SlimVirgin 12:33, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
<!-- NewPP limit report Preprocessor node count: 3144/1000000 Post-expand include size: 64735/2048000 bytes Template argument size: 32961/2048000 bytes Expensive parser function count: 1/500 -->
<!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:5554932-0!1!0!mdy!!en!3 and timestamp 20091206124419 -->
<!-- Served by srv173 in 0.912 secs. -->
An active followup thread can be found in Wikipedia talk:Citing sources #Making pages faster to load. Eubulides ( talk) 04:11, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Anyone know if there is a bug for this particular issue?
<div>[[foo]]<br> [[foo]]<br> [[foo]]<br> [[foo]]<br> [[foo]]</div>
outputs the following html
<div><a href="/info/en/?search=Foo" title="Foo" class="mw-redirect">foo</a><br /> <p><a href="/info/en/?search=Foo" title="Foo" class="mw-redirect">foo</a><br /> <a href="/info/en/?search=Foo" title="Foo" class="mw-redirect">foo</a><br /> <a href="/info/en/?search=Foo" title="Foo" class="mw-redirect">foo</a><br /></p> <a href="/info/en/?search=Foo" title="Foo" class="mw-redirect">foo</a></div>
which displays
— RockMFR 18:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
<p>...</p>
tags. ---—
Gadget850 (Ed)
talk
12:57, 7 December 2009 (UTC)Is there any way to make the Greensleeves file in my user page start playing immediately as the page is loaded, without the reader having to click on it? -- ___A. di M. 22:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Would there be a way to add this option to Preferences? I'm not saying that it's there now, but could it be an upcoming feature? Woogee ( talk) 00:05, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Sophisticated hacker vandalism to this important public health page,
2009 flu pandemic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic
Instead of using hacking skills to puncture the ego of publicity-hound, a hacker has chosen to vandalize the "Vaccines" section of this page, by adding
"This is in strong contrast to the 1976 swine flu outbreak, where mass vaccinations in the United States caused over 1,000,000 cases where peoples heads fell off.[71]"
The attempt at humor is buttressed by coding that makes it impossible for an ordinary user to remove it, so that when one goes to the "edit" screen to revert the vandalism, the "funny joke" is not found there. If one prints a preview of the text on the edit screen, the text is not found there, either. Same results for the edit screens of either the Vaccines section or for the entire article.
Need to identify the hack and hacker, and take steps to remove both from the site.
MAIN ARTICLE CONTAINS THE VANDALISM
Vaccines
Main article: 2009 flu pandemic vaccine As of November 19, 2009, over 65 million doses of vaccine had been administered in over 16 countries; the vaccine seems safe and effective, producing a strong immune response that should protect against infection.[67] The current trivalent seasonal influenza vaccine neither increases nor decreases the risk of infection with H1N1, since the new pandemic strain is quite different from the strains used in this vaccine.[68][69] Overall the safety profile of the new H1N1 vaccine is similar to that of the seasonal flu vaccine, and fewer than a dozen cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome have been reported post-vaccination.[70] Only a few of these are suspected to be actually related to the H1N1 vaccination, and only temporary illness has been observed.[70] This is in strong contrast to the 1976 swine flu outbreak, where mass vaccinations in the United States caused over 1,000,000 cases where peoples heads fell off.[71]
There are safety concerns for people who are allergic to eggs because the viruses for the vaccine are grown in chicken-egg-based cultures. People with egg allergies may be able to receive the vaccine, after consultation with their physician, in graded doses in a careful and controlled environment.[72] A vaccine manufactured by Baxter is made without using eggs, but requires two doses three weeks apart to produce immunity.[73]
As of late November in Canada, there have been 24 confirmed cases of anaphylactic shock following vaccination, including one death. The estimated rate is 1 anaphylactic reaction per 312,000 persons receiving the vaccine. However, there has been one batch of vaccine in which 6 persons suffered anaphylaxis out of 157,000 doses given. The relatively few remainder doses of this batch are being held pending investigation. Dr. David Butler-Jones, Canada’s chief public health officer, has stated that even though this is an adjuvanted vaccine, that does not appear to be the cause of this severe allergic reaction in these 6 patients.[74][75]
EDIT PAGE DOES NOT CONTAIN THE VANDALISM
Vaccines
As of November 19, 2009 [update], over 65 million doses of vaccine had been administered in over 16 countries; the vaccine seems safe and effective, producing a strong immune response that should protect against infection. [1] The current trivalent seasonal influenza vaccine neither increases nor decreases the risk of infection with H1N1, since the new pandemic strain is quite different from the strains used in this vaccine. [2] [3] Overall the safety profile of the new H1N1 vaccine is similar to that of the seasonal flu vaccine, and fewer than a dozen cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome have been reported post-vaccination. [4] Only a few of these are suspected to be actually related to the H1N1 vaccination, and only temporary illness has been observed. [4] This is in strong contrast to the 1976 swine flu outbreak, where mass vaccinations in the United States caused over 500 cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome and led to 25 deaths. [5]
There are safety concerns for people who are allergic to eggs because the viruses for the vaccine are grown in chicken-egg-based cultures. People with egg allergies may be able to receive the vaccine, after consultation with their physician, in graded doses in a careful and controlled environment. [6] A vaccine manufactured by Baxter is made without using eggs, but requires two doses three weeks apart to produce immunity. [7]
As of late November in Canada, there have been 24 confirmed cases of anaphylactic shock following vaccination, including one death. The estimated rate is 1 anaphylactic reaction per 312,000 persons receiving the vaccine. However, there has been one batch of vaccine in which 6 persons suffered anaphylaxis out of 157,000 doses given. The relatively few remainder doses of this batch are being held pending investigation. Dr. David Butler-Jones, Canada’s chief public health officer, has stated that even though this is an adjuvanted vaccine, that does not appear to be the cause of this severe allergic reaction in these 6 patients. [8] [9]
THE EDIT PREVIEW PAGE ALSO DOES NOT REVEAL THE VANDALISM
Editing 2009 flu pandemic (section)
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Main article: 2009 flu pandemic vaccine
As of November 19, 2009, over 65 million doses of vaccine had been administered in over 16 countries; the vaccine seems safe and effective, producing a strong immune response that should protect against infection.[1] The current trivalent seasonal influenza vaccine neither increases nor decreases the risk of infection with H1N1, since the new pandemic strain is quite different from the strains used in this vaccine.[2][3] Overall the safety profile of the new H1N1 vaccine is similar to that of the seasonal flu vaccine, and fewer than a dozen cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome have been reported post-vaccination.[4] Only a few of these are suspected to be actually related to the H1N1 vaccination, and only temporary illness has been observed.[4] This is in strong contrast to the 1976 swine flu outbreak, where mass vaccinations in the United States caused over 500 cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome and led to 25 deaths.[5]
There are safety concerns for people who are allergic to eggs because the viruses for the vaccine are grown in chicken-egg-based cultures. People with egg allergies may be able to receive the vaccine, after consultation with their physician, in graded doses in a careful and controlled environment.[6] A vaccine manufactured by Baxter is made without using eggs, but requires two doses three weeks apart to produce immunity.[7]
As of late November in Canada, there have been 24 confirmed cases of anaphylactic shock following vaccination, including one death. The estimated rate is 1 anaphylactic reaction per 312,000 persons receiving the vaccine. However, there has been one batch of vaccine in which 6 persons suffered anaphylaxis out of 157,000 doses given. The relatively few remainder doses of this batch are being held pending investigation. Dr. David Butler-Jones, Canada’s chief public health officer, has stated that even though this is an adjuvanted vaccine, that does not appear to be the cause of this severe allergic reaction in these 6 patients.[8][9]
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.165.11.37 ( talk) 00:10, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I have found and seen a lot of people comment that the minor edit box is misused a lot. Many people, even some veteran editors, simply do not know or bother to follow the guidelines as to what is considered a "minor" edit. They use it to lazily not explain a more major edit, or attempt to slip by a controversial change.
An idea I came up with to solve this problem is to replace the minor edit box with several other boxes that could be checked in lieu of one called "minor edit." Anyone who is making any such minor edit would check the appropriate box. All others would be compelled to explain.
Some possible boxes would be as follows (though the number should be reduced to simplify it):
With this proposal, there would be the option of checking multiple boxes.
If the edit summary is left blank, what is in the checked box would automatically become the edit summary.
I am not saying all these examples have to be listed, or that other suggestions can't be added. But one thing for sure is it'll stop the incorrect use of the minor edit box. Sebwite ( talk) 05:33, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Sebwite ( talk) 17:44, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I was looking at the Charles Cullen article and noticed a merge template that seemed redundant but it does not appear in the edit page. I am not sure how to remove it Matt ( talk) 11:21, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm thinking of making something similar to the special characters input tool (underneath every edit window) for a site of my own, and I've been snooping around the page source trying to figure out how it works. Specifically, I'm looking at this part of the page's source code:
<div id="editpage-specialchars" style="margin-top: 15px; border: 1px solid #aaaaaa; padding: 2px;" class="edittools-text edittools-version-019"> <p><b>Copy and paste:</b> – — ‘ ’ “ ” ° ″ ′ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § <b>Sign your posts on talk pages:</b> ~~~~ </p> <hr /> <p><small> {{}} {{{}}} | [] [[]] [[Category:]] #REDIRECT [[]] <s></s> <sup></sup> <sub></sub> <code></code> <pre></pre> <blockquote></blockquote> <ref></ref> {{Reflist}} <references/> <includeonly></includeonly> <noinclude></noinclude> {{DEFAULTSORT:}} <nowiki></nowiki> <!-- --> <span class="plainlinks"></span> </small> </p> <hr /> <p><small> <b>Symbols:</b> ~ | ¡ ¿ † ‡ ↔ ↑ ↓ • ¶ # ½ ⅓ ⅔ ¼ ¾ ⅛ ⅜ ⅝ ⅞ ∞ ‘ ’ “ ” «» ¤ ₳ ฿ ₵ ¢ ₡ ₢ $ ₫ ₯ € ₠ ₣ ƒ ₴ ₭ ₤ ℳ ₥ ₦ № ₧ ₰ £ ៛ ₨ ₪ ৳ ₮ ₩ ¥ ♠ ♣ ♥ ♦ m² m³ ♭ ♯ ♮ © ® ™<br/> <b>Characters:</b> Á á Ć ć É é Í í Ĺ ĺ Ń ń Ó ó Ŕ ŕ Ś ś Ú ú Ý ý Ź ź À à È è Ì ì Ò ò Ù ù  â Ĉ ĉ Ê ê Ĝ ĝ Ĥ ĥ Î î Ĵ ĵ Ô ô Ŝ ŝ Û û Ŵ ŵ Ŷ ŷ Ä ä Ë ë Ï ï Ö ö Ü ü Ÿ ÿ ß Ã ã Ẽ ẽ Ĩ ĩ Ñ ñ Õ õ Ũ ũ Ỹ ỹ Ç ç Ģ ģ Ķ ķ Ļ ļ Ņ ņ Ŗ ŗ Ş ş Ţ ţ Đ đ Ů ů Ǎ ǎ Č č Ď ď Ě ě Ǐ ǐ Ľ ľ Ň ň Ǒ ǒ Ř ř Š š Ť ť Ǔ ǔ Ž ž Ā ā Ē ē Ī ī Ō ō Ū ū Ȳ ȳ Ǣ ǣ ǖ ǘ ǚ ǜ Ă ă Ĕ ĕ Ğ ğ Ĭ ĭ Ŏ ŏ Ŭ ŭ Ċ ċ Ė ė Ġ ġ İ ı Ż ż Ą ą Ę ę Į į Ǫ ǫ Ų ų Ḍ ḍ Ḥ ḥ Ḷ ḷ Ḹ ḹ Ṃ ṃ Ṇ ṇ Ṛ ṛ Ṝ ṝ Ṣ ṣ Ṭ ṭ Ł ł Ő ő Ű ű Ŀ ŀ Ħ ħ Ð ð Þ þ Œ œ Æ æ Ø ø Å å Ə ə {{Unicode|}} <br/> <b>Greek:</b> Ά ά Έ έ Ή ή Ί ί Ό ό Ύ ύ Ώ ώ Α α Β β Γ γ Δ δ Ε ε Ζ ζ Η η Θ θ Ι ι Κ κ Λ λ Μ μ Ν ν Ξ ξ Ο ο Π π Ρ ρ Σ σ ς Τ τ Υ υ Φ φ Χ χ Ψ ψ Ω ω {{Polytonic|}} <br/> <b>Cyrillic:</b> А а Б б В в Г г Ґ ґ Ѓ ѓ Д д Ђ ђ Е е Ё ё Є є Ж ж З з Ѕ ѕ И и І і Ї ї Й й Ј ј К к Ќ ќ Л л Љ љ М м Н н Њ њ О о П п Р р С с Т т Ћ ћ У у Ў ў Ф ф Х х Ц ц Ч ч Џ џ Ш ш Щ щ Ъ ъ Ы ы Ь ь Э э Ю ю Я я ́ <br/> <b>IPA:</b> t̪ d̪ ʈ ɖ ɟ ɡ ɢ ʡ ʔ ɸ ʃ ʒ ɕ ʑ ʂ ʐ ʝ ɣ ʁ ʕ ʜ ʢ ɦ ɱ ɳ ɲ ŋ ɴ ʋ ɹ ɻ ɰ ʙ ʀ ɾ ɽ ɫ ɬ ɮ ɺ ɭ ʎ ʟ ɥ ʍ ɧ ɓ ɗ ʄ ɠ ʛ ʘ ǀ ǃ ǂ ǁ ɨ ʉ ɯ ɪ ʏ ʊ ɘ ɵ ɤ ə ɚ ɛ ɜ ɝ ɞ ʌ ɔ ɐ ɶ ɑ ɒ ʰ ʷ ʲ ˠ ˤ ⁿ ˡ ˈ ˌ ː ˑ ̪ {{IPA|}} </small> </p> </div>
I assume the important thing here is the class="edittools-text edittools-version-019"
. I looked around the 6 or 7 stylesheets that are linked at the top of the source code, but I couldn't find this object anywhere. Does anyone have any idea where it might be located?
Thanks, rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 20:24, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that the "insert citation" feature in the edit toolbar now automatically inserts access dates as "8 December 2009" instead of "2009-12-08" as it did previously. Why has this been changed? I thought the consensus at Wikipedia:Mosnum/proposal on YYYY-MM-DD numerical dates was to keep the YYYY-MM-DD dates in footnotes (especially for access dates). Another reason why this change is bad is that the previously inserted access dates are still mostly YYYY-MM-DD and the new ones are not, which creates inconsistency (which is a major problem.) Can this change to the toolbar functionality be reverted somehow? Offliner ( talk) 03:08, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I am extremely puzzled by not being able to locate an article that I know for a fact existed. I once read the article myself and I have even found websites that quote the article :ORSAT Analysis
Hi,
I am using Windows XP, Service pack 3 v.5512. Though I can operate the google toolokit, but I cant read the bengali articles that are uploaded in wikipedia. Kindly let me know how to go about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.43.57 ( talk) 06:27, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Using Firefox 3.5.5 on Vista on the beta skin. Are these supposed to be bugs or are they intentional? :x -- Izno ( talk) 08:42, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
div.siteNoticeBig
received onclick=goToDonationPage()
, so naturally clicking on [hide] takes you to the donation page as well. —
AlexSm
16:01, 9 December 2009 (UTC)Let's say template A contains a link to article B and is transcluded on article C, when checking "What links here" on article B, C is on the list. The problem I found is that if the link on the template is changed to point to D, C will still show up on the list even though there is no link to B, transcluded or otherwise, on C. Is this a known issue, does it take time to update, or am I doing something wrong? Keyed In ( talk) 18:18, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Please see discussion at WT:Blocking IP addresses#Updates required? and respond there. OrangeDog ( τ • ε) 20:26, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I've had this issue before and I can't remember how I solved it, or if I really did, but a SVG file that I updated with a newer version yesterday refuses to appear updated in the PNG files. Here's the file, and Here's how its supposed to look. I've checked around, and I don't think its just my machine. It doesn't usually take this long to fix itself, so is there something I can do?-- Patrick { oѺ∞} 19:52, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
How do I enable Huggle? I have the (that I understand) correct values set here, but when I try to log on with Huggle it says "Huggle is not enabled on your account, check user configuration page." What am I not doing? Thanks. -- Mike Allen talk · contribs 06:05, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
I have a question about Twinkle ( user, TW). I am tagging articles for CSD but the tab for CSD doesn't work. All of the other menu in Twinkle does work, but CSD doesn't. This was the first time happened since I start to use Twinkle.-- JL 09 q? c 15:51, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
The talk pages of KAL007 have been archived. The problem is two-fold:
I do not know if that page (number 6 archive) was done automatically by a bot, or if someone did it manually. Either way, I think the situation needs to be repaired, so that the entire talk history of KAL007 is fully preserved and accessible. I am reluctant to try to fix it myself, because of the admonition that archived pages should not be edited.
Here are the links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007/Archive_5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007/Archive_6
Can someone fix it? EditorASC ( talk) 22:56, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
{{
Archive box}}
on the talk page and add the relevant information.
Peachey88 (
Talk Page ·
Contribs)
23:13, 10 December 2009 (UTC)The help links on the search page got removed (without any discussion) when the new search interface was deployed some time ago. There is a discussion about adding them back. See MediaWiki talk:Searchmenu-exists#Renewed request.
And a reminder: We now have a new central page for discussing MediaWiki interface messages: Wikipedia:MediaWiki messages. It is kind of a "Village pump (MediaWiki messages)". So if MediaWiki interface messages interest you, consider adding that page to your watchlist.
-- David Göthberg ( talk) 03:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Norton Safe Web from Symantec has tagged wikimedia as having a virus at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/AVMeiyappan_young.jpg . Perhaps Norton should be notified of an error...or is there really a virus sitting on wikimedia? Smallman12q ( talk) 00:56, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
This is sort of a technical proposal, so maybe it's in the wrong place. I was thinking recently about a possible tool, essentially a Contribution page (like [4]) that you could add multiple users to. It would presumably sort edits chronologically- the purpose being to see all of a sock puppeteer's edits in-line with his socks, for a more complete overview of their editing style, and to spot 3RR-by-proxy, etc.
Would this be technically difficult to put together? And again, is this the wrong place? -- King Öomie 15:33, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
I and other users have expressed persistent time out errors when comparing histories or previewing changes at List of Wii games. This problem seems to be specific to this article. Any help appreciated. Error message for reference:
Request: GET http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_Wii_games&action=historysubmit&diff=330867755&oldid=330850001, from 68.14.224.197 via sq33.wikimedia.org (squid/2.7.STABLE6) to 208.80.152.29 (208.80.152.29) Error: ERR_READ_TIMEOUT, errno [No Error] at Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:47:57 GMT
Aether7 ( talk) 19:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Preprocessor node count: 493958/1000000
). It could be caused by the extensive use of {{
dts}}
. I guess it would be worth trying to replace them with some simpler template or no template at all.
Svick (
talk)
19:28, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
{{
dts vgr2}}
. I switched the article to this template, and it uses much less preprocessor nodes now, but I had to change dates like “Q4 2009” to just “2009” and dates that use {{
TBA}}
don't sort properly. The latter issue could be easily solved by not using that template, but I don't know how to solve the former.
Svick (
talk)
22:01, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Could someone take a look at the edit history of Talk:Jack Sarfatti ( | article | history | links | watch | logs)? The two edits made by 98.234.144.82 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) recently have been greyed out and the logs give no indication of what has happened. __ meco ( talk) 08:41, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
To http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene
I was attempting to fix a reference and got lost in a web of references and my brain isn't functioning in undo mode tonight.
Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Levalley ( talk • contribs) 06:22, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I opened this page López and it looks ok. But if I opened Lopez, which redirects to the same page, the PNG image is not scaled, it occupies all the screen. Tried in Firefox, IE, Chrome, it acts the same. Weird, now after 2 minutes, in Firefox looks ok, but not in IE and Chrome. Maybe depends on the way you link it? test Ark25 ( talk) 22:35, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
It's now possible to import revisions from Meta and the Nostalgia Wikipedia to this site]]. It would be nice if that functionality could be extended to other language Wikipedias, but this is a very good start! Graham 87 02:54, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
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I have asked about this at help desk & been supported via IRC but not solved the issue. Using Firefox (3.5.5) & when I am logged in the red location dot on Brompton Regis & other articles is outside the boundary of the county. I have checked the coords on streetmap & they are correct. This doesn't happen if I am not logged in or if logged in using IE8. On advice I have removed User:AndyZ/peerreviewer.js from my monobook & cleared cache without any change. Any advice appreciated.— Rod talk 15:40, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
In edit summaries we are limited to a certain number of characters from on high. We know what can fit because it's WYSIWYG; you can only type up to the number of characters that will show when you save (which can be increased by 50 characters in your preferences [in Gadgets → User interface gadgets: editing]). When moving pages, by contrast, you can apparently type an unlimited number of characters into the equivalent "Reason:" field which provides an edit summary when you perform the move. I sometimes go over the limit without realizing it and get a botched edit summaries, being cut off in midsentence à la here, which resolved on three more words. Of course, there's also no preview for a move, so you can't simply click a button to see if you've gone over the limit. Any possible fixes for this?-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 00:30, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
<input> only displays as one line of text. <textarea> displays as multiple lines, so you have more visual room to write lengthy reasons without having to scroll back and forth, but historically has not permitted maxlength. It permits maxlength in HTML5, so I've added it in r60054, but it doesn't work in all browsers (works in Chrome 4, so probably also in recent Safari; doesn't work in Firefox 3.5 or Opera 9.22; on Linux and don't have IE to test with). — Simetrical ( talk • contribs) 00:13, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
How can the title of I-Télé be changed to i>Télé? There must be a solution since it's i>Télé on the fr wiki: I've looked thru {{ wrongtitle}} and the like but there seems to be nothing. Chris DHDR 17:30, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
One user has hundreds of user pages that have become a very high ranking in the search engines. I know the NOINDEX tag can be attached to each page but as there are so many pages and the topic of the articles is a bit problematic. Is there a way to automatically block all his user pages from being indexed? IQinn ( talk) 12:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I have a question for an admin, or maybe just someone familiar with the history of how images worked on Wikipedia. Any idea why the image on File:Fr unapproachable east.jpg is unrestorable? Might be interesting to know if it's because the file is older than ones I've successfully restored. It was created on 8 December 2004 and deleted on 22 November 2005, if that helps. BOZ ( talk) 15:38, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
We are about to deploy automatic detection of script documentation pages. All .js and .css pages will automatically show a box with a link to their doc page, if a doc page exists. See MediaWiki talk:Clearyourcache#Script documentation, {{ script doc auto}} and Template talk:Script doc auto if you want to discuss this.
-- David Göthberg ( talk) 16:28, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I would like a preference that would cause all my incoming and outgoing email to be pseudo-anonymized and archived, visible to highly-privileged users, e.g. checkuser. What do I mean by this? It means if I send someone an email, it gets archived for posterity and the return address is somethingunique@editors.wikimedia.org or some such. Any reply would also be archived and, if it was a true reply and included magic words in the email headers, reverse-anonymized.
This would provide several benefits:
Is this worth adding to the code? If it were available, would you support including it as a user preference in the English Wikipedia? Would you enable the bit yourself? I would. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 02:59, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I want to be notified whenever an article I have edited is listed for deletion (either PRODded or listed on AFD). Is there some bot out there doing this, and if so, how can I opt in to its notifications? — Lowellian ( reply) 12:40, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm a web developer working on a Wikipedia-type website called Preceden. My goal with it is to be the Wikipedia of timelines. Down the road I'd like to have every major event in history represented on the site.
I'm at a point now where I need to make a lot of small but important decisions, and I'm looking for an experienced Wikipedia editor to serve as an adviser. For example, I'm trying to decide whether the page revisions should have an "undo" button or a "restore" button (some sites use one, some the other, and I'm not sure what works best) and I don't have enough experience to know what's best. Other things include methods for preventing vandalism, how to recognize the top contributors, etc.
If you're interested in helping shape Preceden's future, please shoot me an email: preceden@gmail.com
Thanks.
(PS -- I originally posted this in the policy section, but it was removed because it was not the appropriate place for it. I'm still not sure what the appropriate place is. The technical sections seems like a good place to find the type of adviser I'm looking for; if not, please advise where to go.) Preceden ( talk) 22:24, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
It used to pre-select the deletion reason for me based on the tag placed on the page. Any reason it's not doing it now? – xeno talk 15:17, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
My history button is missing from articles. Don't know where it slinked off too.
Heres a screenshot in-case nobody else is having this problem. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 17:35, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello, Please check out http://www.wikimindmap.org/ is a very good application, isn't it? for example: http://www.wikimindmap.org/viewmap.php?wiki=en.wikipedia.org&topic=Wikimedia_Foundation&Submit=Search If every wiki page add onebutton to generate the mindmap, is that cool?
so,,,,Why not add Wikimindmap support in wikimedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Litingjun ( talk • contribs) 16:31, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
It's kind of cool. Maybe we could spend more time working with people who do these kinds of awesome things and less time being an ass about what is, essentially, a nitpick. — Werdna • talk 12:58, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia has over 600 links to the legendary publishing periodical Editor & Publisher, which is now ceasing publication. I suspect that the website will soon be shuttered as well. We need a massive effort to 1) preemptively archive (via WP:WebCite?) many of these articles as possible and 2) repair already dead links (via WP:WAYBACK?). The list is here Please see Wikipedia talk:Linkrot to help coordinate. -- Blargh29 ( talk) 03:27, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
You should talk to the people who wrote WebCiteBot. They're more likely to be helpful rather than snarky. — Werdna • talk 13:00, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Is there any way that we could make template parameter names insensitive to capitalization (aside from manually adding them to every template)? Even if only the first letter were insensitive, that would seem to be a big improvement.
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Separated from the above discussion Mr. Z-man 17:38, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Umm, Mediawiki and the code base are basically the same thing. If volunteer development is not moving at a fast enough pace, one could always learn PHP, repair the problem, and submit a patch. Chillum (Need help? Ask me) 17:34, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
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22:11, 12 December 2009 (UTC)Just as an example, much of my recent development effort has gone into 1) HTML5 support, because I think it's essential to the long-term health of the web, and "Wikipedia has switched to HTML5" could have considerable political impact in the standards world; 2) external authentication, which does absolutely nothing for Wikipedia but is useful for my own wiki. You probably don't care about either of those things. But that's fine. I don't have to have the same priorities as Wikipedians do. Why should I? — Simetrical ( talk • contribs) 16:32, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Priyanka Dhanda joins Wikimedia tech team one step closer I guess. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 04:10, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, asking here as advised...
Anyone got any ideas about the problem described at Talk:Rùm#Map is broken? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.243.195 ( talk) 20:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
There are some scripts (such as Twinkle) which are restricted to certain users (usually autoconfirmed, sometimes on a certain list). But couldn't a user circumvent these restrictions simply by pasting the full source code of the script into their monobook, or whatever? Intelligent sium 00:47, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Discussion at the "Bowei Huang" section of Wikipedia talk:Reference desk makes me wonder: if a username is changed, what happens if you try to block the old username? I recently finished deleting a group of redirects to userspace for another user who had changed names recently and wanted the redirects to be deleted, and this question occurred to me then, although rather idly. FYI, I'm well aware of what happens if you forget this lesson, so I'll not test something for the sake of testing it. Nyttend ( talk) 06:06, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Another editor put it better than I can:
Odd, something is broken in the wiki. It looks like all edits between http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=The_Elephant_Man_%28film%29&oldid=9292943 (21:01, 11 January 2005) and http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=The_Elephant_Man_%28film%29&direction=next&oldid=12776317 (02:37, 25 April 2005) got fubared. They show up as blank versions, which isn't logical. They should either be there, be missing entirely and not in the edit history if they were deleted but not restored, or have strike-throughs if they've been rev-deleted or oversighted. Well, probably not worth fixing. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 22:49, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
From: [6] -- Drogonov 11:33, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
The WP 1.0 bot is used to track the assessment templates that are put on the talk pages of articles. These are used by over 1,500 WikkiProjects, with over 2.5 million articles tagged. A new version of the WP 1.0 bot is in initial beta testing.
I'm posting to this page because I'd like to find another person interested in working on the bot. Of course you can choose your own level of involvement. The bot itself runs on the Wikimedia toolserver, using Perl and mysql, but I am language agnostic. I would be happy to have a new developer at any experience level, and working with this bot would be a very nice way to learn database/web programming in the context of a real project. If you're interested, please contact me on my talk page. — Carl ( CBM · talk) 01:51, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
In the past week, I have received the following error message at least once or twice each day:
This wiki has a problem Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. (Cannot contact the database server: Unknown error (10.0.6.32))
Is anyone else experiencing the same problem? Thanks, – BLACK FALCON ( TALK) 21:53, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
This problem was reported on the #wikimedia-tech irc channel. The word from the site admins is that (1) they have logs of when it happens, (2) it is very intermittent, and (3) they are planning maintenance tomorrow to fix it (hopefully). If it becomes persistent or lasts more than another 36 hours, please report it again. Unfortunately there is nothing else that can be done at the moment. — Carl ( CBM · talk) 00:58, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
( ←) More occurrences - about 2 min ago from this sig. Same server as above. For this page [7]. 7 08:45, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Just had this happen again, 30 seconds ago:
This wiki has a problem
Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
(Cannot contact the database server: Unknown error (10.0.6.32))
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enwiki switched to different build at 11:09 UTC that should eliminate the issue. We have enough of logging to see when this happens ;-) Domas Mituzas ( talk) 13:51, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Is there an easy way to get a list of all articles that are listed in the List of mathematics articles that have been tagged with the essay or personal reflection template? Michael Hardy ( talk) 00:54, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, Svick and CBM.
Svick, you misunderstand something: very very few of Wikipedia's more-than-20,000 mathematics articles are in Category:Mathematics. That category has 55 subcategories, and at least one subcategory has more than 30 subcategories, and many of the subcategories have a dozen-or-so subcategories, so we're talking about hundreds of categories. But the list of mathematics articles, on the other hand, has it all. Michael Hardy ( talk) 05:33, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
....I'm getting a "SNAFU" message from "CatScan". Michael Hardy ( talk) 05:37, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Anyone else seeing it? Happened both when trying to CSD a page and when trying to welcome-coi the user. Locks up at "Tagging page: data loaded..." 7 01:45, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Help me in traduction Template:Info samba school of . Some technical aspects are incorrects. I'm use this template in all samba schools articles. Thanks. Quintinense ( talk) 14:23, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
valign="top" class="hiddenStructure"
, so I removed it. From what I know of the Romance languages, I presume "traduction" is Portuguese for "translation"? List at
WP:NOTENGLISH.
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23:01, 18 December 2009 (UTC)yes, rsrsrsrs. Translate by Joel Santana! Quintinense ( talk) 03:50, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
These two pages, ITunes Live: London Festival '09 (Snow Patrol EP) and ITunes Live: London Festival '09 - EP (Kid British album), should be moved such that the spelling is "iTunes" like with iTunes Live from London. I tried to move them but it says the page can't be moved to itself. How is such a change made? If somebody does it, please change the default sort tag to "Itunes" such that it get filed in a sensible manner. Jason Quinn ( talk) 20:33, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I think we should incorprate filters in What links here.
For example, in this page, we have a whole bunch of pages that are not article pages. Most of the are user pages, but some of them are user talk pages and wikipedia and wikipedia talk pages.
We can use the pull down menu for only User pages, or Wikipedia pages, but I think we should also have a system that that can filter out these 2 categories as an example; if say I want to see which articles need pronunciations converted to IPA, not only do I have to go through so many pages but some of them are even archives. 174.3.102.6 ( talk) 21:35, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
My watchlist token keeps setting itself after I blank it. Is this normal? Also, does anyone know who, besides developers and the like, can see watchlists and watchlist tokens without knowing the token? davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 22:51, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I filed this as bugzilla:21912. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 20:48, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating text from the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia
Why is this category hidden? 2,000 entries on this category, only linked to by three on-wiki pages, two for the template which adds it to an article and one link on Talk:Illness among Jews an article reviewed for deletion and merged with Medical genetics of Jewish people. ~ R. T. G 15:25, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Um, they do have "regular" citations. {{ JewishEncyclopedia}} adds the text "This article incorporates text from the 1901–1906 Jewish Encyclopedia article ..., a publication now in the public domain.", and the other PD source templates do the same. What is the problem? The category is just a maintenance cat for keeping track of these templates. OrangeDog ( τ • ε) 21:34, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
:A lot of the articles in those categories are prone to no inline citations, and besides, is there a category of major use of old PD documents? Really, can I see it? No? Why because you did some nice little artistry on your template? Well to hell with the referencers while we have this artistic template. Nobody wants to reference those things. That's not encyclopaediac. Showing those categories to people who might be interested would be just said-so dumb. Those categories are for spying on articles not enhancing the available information. What class of idiot would even want to look through a category like that? What do they think that respectable works of PD are prized and researchable? No way. I didn't understand you. You make note sense. That's oft topic any way. What you think this is a reference bible or something? ~
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At
WT:MOS we've just learned from
User:davidwr that −
, the HTML minus sign, does not sort properly in a sortable wikitable.
User:Eubulides made a suggestion to improve ts_parseFloat
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num = parseFloat(s.replace(/,/g, ""));
num = parseFloat(s.replace(/,/g, "").replace(/−/g,"-"));
This looks to me too like it would solve the problem. Note that the first dash in the new replace statement is a minus sign and the second is a hyphen; the sortable wikitable already properly handles hyphens. Can someone make this change? (Or is there something we're not considering?) Ozob ( talk) 04:24, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
−
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.replace(/−/gi, "-").replace(/&(?:minus|#x0*2212|#0*8722);/gi, "-")
ts_currencyToSortKey
doesn't handle minus signs properly, either. Right now, all it does is strip all characters other than digits, periods, and commas, then call ts_parseFloat
. It's not even compatible with hyphens used as minus signs; so you can't write a debt as $-100 or -$100 (and especially not as $−100 or −$100) and get it to sort properly; it'll get sorted as if it were 100.I hope this is the right location to suggest a new technical feature to be added to Wikipedia or maybe something that a bot could do. I'll be brief: it might be useful to put a note a user's Talk page if his or her text inside an article has "{{citation" right after it. It's logical to expect the user who added text to know where he or she read something that needs a citation. This won't always work, but if it's a single line of text that starts with a capital and such, Wikipedia should be able to give us information about who put it there. If there is a match, that user's Talk page could say: "A text (<text>) you added on <date> to the article <name> appears to need a citation. If possible, please try to help out." -- 82.171.70.54 ( talk) 14:02, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Whenever I post something on a discussion page, my post is signed by a bot--even though I always add my signature. How can I correct this problem? -- Lucas Brown 18:03, 20 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucas Brown 42 ( talk • contribs)
It's taking a LOOOOONNNNNGGGGG time to load history pages, and then, if I try to do a diff, it takes an ever longer time to display the diffs. This is happening on every history page I look at, this just started yesterday. I'm using Firefox, which I switched to a couple of years ago because this was occurring with IE, and was not happening on Firefox till yesterday. Woogee ( talk) 22:31, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
(cross-posted to foundation-l, wikitech-l, Village pump (proposals))
Hi all,
With the Foundation's support, I've spent the last few months churning away at Extension:LiquidThreads, a new discussion system that is proposed for use on Wikimedia projects.
Essentially, it's an attempt to marry the radical openness of the wiki paradigm with the usability and practicality of a forum-like system. As the name implies, LiquidThreads is designed to allow any user to easily refactor discussions while maintaining edit history, to edit other users' comments, and to collaborate on a summary of an ongoing discussion. LiquidThreads also brings many standard communication features lacking from wiki discussion pages, such as watching and protecting individual discussion threads, RSS feeds of comments in a discussion or on a discussion page. In the world of online communication, its approach is entirely unique.
LiquidThreads has been in alpha testing on Wikimedia Labs for several months, and, more recently, it's been used in a production context on the strategy wiki, where it has been quite well-received. It's been easy to run these smaller trials, as the extension allows the activation and deactivation of LiquidThreads discussions on individual pages with a simple parser function.
While there are still some issues remaining before wider trials, I believe I can resolve most of them quite quickly (within a few weeks when my vacation finishes at the end of next month), and I'd like to get the ball rolling in proposing small-scale trials on some of the larger wikis, so that a full discussion can be had, and so that adjustments can be made on the basis of ongoing feedback. I'd especially like to see LiquidThreads used on some of the higher-traffic discussion pages on English Wikipedia (such as the technical village pump), and progressive rollout on some of our mid to large sized wikis.
So, I'd like to encourage you to have a play with LiquidThreads, either on the strategy wiki or on the test site (which generally runs a newer version). Tell me what you like about it, and (far more importantly) what improvements you think it needs before we can expand our trials to wider parts of the Wikimedia Universe, and perhaps move towards a full rollout of this very exciting technology.
I should give the following caveats about LiquidThreads as it stands. These are all issues that I intend to address before any trial expansion occurs.
Feedback is best directed to the dedicated Feedback page, or, alternatively, to bugzilla (although before filing a bug, you should check the list of existing LiquidThreads bugs).
— Werdna • talk 20:57, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I certainly shudder when I read something like LiquidThreads is designed to allow any user to ... edit other users' comments. 99.166.95.142 ( talk) 16:44, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Where can I comment on this talk page template: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=File_talk:Qxz-ad15.gif&action=edit
Source code:
<div class="editnotice-area" style="clear: both;"><div class="editnotice-namespace"><table id="filetalk-namespace-editnotice" class="plainlinks fmbox fmbox-warning filetalk-namespace-editnotice" style=""> <tr> <td class="mbox-image">
Found it: Template:Editnotices/Namespace/File talk
Ikip 19:31, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if this is the proper place to post this query; I hope some Wiki-aware editor will Talk to me.
Crabs (Clade Meiura) comprise Brachyura (true crabs) and Anomura (hermit crabs, etc.) This much is not controversial; see e.g. Wikipedia, or even Merriam-Webster:
crab [OE crabba; OHG krebiz; OE ceorfan == to carve] 1 any of any of numerous chiefly marine broadly built decapod crustaceans: 1a = any of Brachyura 1b = any of a group (Anomura) resembling true crabs [e.g. king crab "any of several very large crabs ..."]
Wikipedia has pages for "Crab" and "Anomura"; no pages for "Meiura" or "true crab"; "Brachyura" redirects to "Crab". This can be confusing (proofs: Casual glance at the page convinces one king crab is in Brachyura; I was confused, however briefly.) There is a page "Crab(disambiguation)" but it does not address the confusion at all.
There certainly should be one "main" page for "Crab"; the present page may be well-written; I don't know to what extent its remarks apply only to Brachyura or to Anomura as well; perhaps this should be addressed in the main article.
Perhaps a "True crab" page should be created with "Brachyura" redirected to that. I don't know; just know the present setup is more than slightly flawed. Jamesdowallen ( talk) 16:02, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
I just noticed that image caption text is smaller than article body text. Is this new, or am I imagining? Also, why is it smaller? -- Apoc2400 ( talk) 19:37, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
I would like to see Special:Notepad be a private scratch-pad, possibly visible to privileged users, intended for people to keep working notes that aren't meant for the public eye. It's easier for me to keep my wiki-related notes on Wikipedia than on, say, a Google application or a local document, but I don't always want the public access that an on-wiki page has.
I'm not picky if this is a Special: page, a part of Preferences, or a user:-space page that is not readable to unprivilaged users. I'm soliciting feedback on the general concept of "private" space within Wikipedia.
Before I open a bug/feature request, I wanted some feedback. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 21:26, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
For example, a recent post of mine was "::::This seems to be pretty OK (like the one similar to this). Although the "He served 1939–1941" example needs to be thrown out and something saner picked instead. It seems essentially to be status quo + allowing for "Seifert–von Kampen". Which is much better than the status quo. ~~~~", which I copy-paste in the edit summary since the beginning of a post is a very quick way to summarize the post. However, this is longer than that 255 character limit (or whatever it is), changing the edit summary box in red as a warning (fine), and preventing me to make my post until I fixed the length (horrible!).
PLEASE revert to the old behaviour of simply truncating the summary (the warning is fine and should probably stay). Headbomb { ταλκ κοντριβς – WP Physics} 16:45, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Please look at User talk:Vossanova. Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:23, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:29, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
I find my iPhone handy for checking my watchlist when I have a few minutes to spare from other tasks. The problem I'm having is that there are so many links on the watchlist page that it is hard to scroll the touch-sensitive screen without occasionally hitting a link inadvertently. For the most part, that's a minor nuisance--I just cancel the page that's being loaded. But if I accidently hit a rollback link, there is no way to stop the resulting action. I've done this a few times now. I can rollback myself when I notice, but my fear is accidentally rolling back an edit without noticing. Ideally, I'd like a user option of having rollback ask for confirmation, or at least a way to turn rollback off and on. As more touch sensitive devices come on the market, I suspect others will encounter the same problem. I realize having rollback is considered a great privilege by some and I don't want to sound ungrateful, but all in all I'd rather be able to use my iPhone to edit than have rollback.-- agr ( talk) 21:38, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
importStylesheet('User:' + wgUserName + '/vector-ipod.css');
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that CSS page, along with a few other tweaks—that admittedly I haven't polished much—like making the tabs bigger and removing the sidebar completely (unlike the toggle-able option for normal browsers). Is that a useful approach for anyone? {{
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I posted the above design to the usability wiki a few months ago and not much has happened since. I imagine that the system uses AJAX categories to organize the hierarchy. When a user selects a template they'll be prompted to fill in parameters (similar to wikia). There needs to be more machine readable meta-data for this to happen, see DBpedia discussions. — Dispenser 05:38, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
I cropped this image for a DYK (that appeared on 19-10-09). The cropped version is seen in Wikipedia:Recent additions 249, but not in Vamana, Onam etc. articles. What is the problem? -- Redtigerxyz Talk 06:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
I tried to fix /Archive 67 after ClueBot's error. Can somebody check that I didn't forget some thread? Was this the only broken page? (Since that error was with ClueBot's “unarchiving” and I didn't find any other in its recent contributions, I hope it was.) I also turned on archiving of this VP by MiszaBot (and turned off ClueBot), because ClueBot isn't currently working. Are there any other pages that should be switched? Svick ( talk) 22:07, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
The category Category:Noindexed pages is added automatically when the magic word __NOINDEX__ is used in a permissible namespace, that magic word is also added by template:NOINDEX, which also adds Category:Noindexed pages (relics from when the autocategorization didn't exist), so this adds redundancy and lists pages which are in fact not noindexed, for example those in mainspace - so the categorization can be wrong. Thus I propose we depopulate Category:Noindexed pages, starting by removing it from template:NOINDEX.
Also, it seems possible to filter Category:Noindexed pages by namespace via MediaWiki:Noindex-category, I'm not sure there's interest in dividing by namespaces, let me know what you think; we could at least distinguish between pages and categories, explicitly with
{{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{ns:category}}|Noindexed categories|Noindexed pages}}
. Cenarium ( talk) 01:01, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
If I attempt to visit any Wikipedia page on my home computer, my Firefox crashes. This is a new phenomenon since the end of September 2009 (I've been away). Is there anything I can do to my Firefox settings to fix this problem? I'd rather not go for an update because when it works my present version of Firefox runs much faster than newer ones do.
(Sorry, I don't know the version number, but it was installed in August 2004)
David Fremlin, 28 Nov 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.31.207.41 ( talk) 18:26, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for replying so promptly! It's "version 1.0", so I see that it was a bit of an antique when I got it -- Yes, other sites have given the same problem, I just didn't care so much -- It doesn't freeze, it dies altogether, reporting "segmentation fault" (I have some sort of Red Hat, I believe). I note that the other computer I'm typing on now, though it can cope with Wikipedia pages, is spectacularly slow.
P.S. This page crashes my Firefox too. I wonder if the trouble is in the left-hand column? presumably this is in a different frame from the rest? David —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.31.207.41 ( talk) 10:16, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I've written a couple of templates on Wikipedia. It is much like trying to paint with your hands cuffed behind you. It is very limited as a programming language. In my initial attempts to search for more information on Templates and how to manipulate variables/looping, I found this past discussion on the Village Pump [1] that followed a question about whether the Variables extension was installed. Anomie posted a link to a discussion about extending the programming language on wikipedia [2]. When I asked Anomie recently if anything came out of this discussion, she said this:
My question is, are there any statistics on how many sites there are using Wikipedia software, that on restrictive hosting such that they would have to be able to reuse the Wikipedia templates? What percentage of the user base are they talking about? Thanks stmrlbs| talk 18:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I have submitted a bug report to make searching the deletion logs more user friendly and consistent with search engine usage on the internet. At the present time, you have to enter the exact title, with the exact punctuation of the article deleted, in order to find information on deletion log about that article. The log search should work like other searches, and should be able to find information on a deleted article based on a keyword from the article title. This would cut down on confusion by people using the log search like they use all other searches in Wikipedia and not being able to find information on an article. If you agree with this enhancement/bug, please vote for this report on bugzilla: Bug#21555: search on keyword - rather than requiring exact title including punctuation. Thanks. stmrlbs| talk 01:42, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Toolserver IP, 91.198.174.201 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS), is editing logged-out again. Why can't that IP be soft-blocked? There is no reason for it to ever edit logged-out, is there? Wknight94 talk 15:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Anyone familiar with the code have any feel for the effort to add per-page granularity to user blocks: For example, if an administrator wanted to block a user from page X or all pages in category Y, but let him edit the rest of the wiki.
Similarly, how much code change would be needed to grand administrative tools on a per-page basis to a given administrator: For example, allowing a 'crat to give new administrator W the right to delete pages in category X, or block users whose user pages are in category Y or on list Y from editing articles in category Z. Or, more simply, to manage protection on pages in category X.
I would expect this is non-trivial, but is it something that could be made to work in a matter of weeks, a matter of months, or is it bigger than that given the size and workload of the current developers?
See here for the reason I'm asking. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 01:56, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
It's not really difficult to implement, but it's difficult to implement well, without introducing more horrible kludges to the blocking system. — Werdna • talk 00:38, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Didn't we just recently discuss allowing admins to hand down "discretionary per page bans"? And according to the summary at the bottom of the page, did not find consensus for such things? – xeno talk 15:53, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
I doubt it would be accepted on :en any time soon, but some of the smaller wikis might benefit from bots which did specific tasks on behalf of specific, whitelisted users. For example, if an established user was a mentor to a particular user, an admin-bot could be called upon by the mentor to block the protegee. Likewise, members of a vandal-fighting group could have access to a bot that would block users for up to a pre-determined amount of time and protect pages for a pre-determined maximum time.
From a coding-the-bot perspective, does this look hard? To work well on a large wiki and not cause massive confusion, you would need to add "impersonation" to the wiki code, so the bot's actions were logged as the editor not as the bot. Is adding impersonation code a large task? davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 05:53, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Ewwwwww. — Werdna • talk 00:38, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
For some reason, this single edit consisting of one word made the Text all drop to the botton of the biobox? Handicapper ( talk) 16:40, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
The images placed on that ad dont really look well placed, please re place them. Accdude92 ( talk to me!) ( sign) 20:10, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Over at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Philosophy, user:Mr.Z-bot has posted the same message 14 times during the last 40 minutes, would an admin kindly stop it? Paradoctor ( talk) 02:52, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi! I'm asking about syntax for Template:Location map
The Wikipedia page for Pag (town) gives its coordinates as follows:
Template:Location map gives syntax for the same town as follows:
So that's fair enough. However, a page I made has the following:
This gives the right location in Google Maps, Yahoo Maps or the like - cf 59°54′39″N 10°35′31″E / 59.9108°N 10.5920°E - but when I try to insert the numbers into Location map syntax, like this: |lat_deg=59|lat_min=91|lon_deg=10|lon_min=59, I get:
This is not the correct location. I don't really have any idea what minutes and degrees are anyway. What am I doing wrong? Geschichte ( talk) 21:22, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
{{
Location map}}
's lat_deg
and lon_deg
. See example below.
Svick (
talk)
21:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)I wanted to use the donate link. My natural course of action was to middle click the button/link in Firefox and in the meantime continue reading the current page. But since the button is javascript only, this did nothing useful. Does the donate button really need javascript? Why put a small annoying barrier in the way of the main source of funds? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron Lawrence ( talk • contribs) 05:19, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Why image annotation appears only in Commons and not in Wikipedia? Most likely, many people are being unaware. I think it would add EV if fixed. Brand t] 06:58, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I just stumbled on an article, W (Double You), which had an external link below interwiki linking to ThePPN: W. I followed it, and the site that it really links to, http://wiki.theppn.org/W, has moved to a different domain. (ThePPN's former domain, a .org, seems to be owned by a denim company!?) Some searching later, I found that the correct link is to http://wiki.jpopstop.com/wiki/W.
Seeing as there are many other Japanese artist pages that have external links to ThePPN using interwiki links, I decided to do some research and found this on the Help Desk archives: Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2007_June_25#How does this "ThePPN:" link works?, dated 2007.
More research led to this: http://community.livejournal.com/theppnwiki
So, as ThePPN is now Jpop Stop!, can someone with database access go in and systematically remove/replace ThePPN with Jpop Stop! in the interwiki database, and (might as well) do the same in all articles that have links pointing to it? -- Geopgeop ( talk) 11:32, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Why is my !@#$%^&* signature red when almost all others are blue? Coffee and sympathy glad accepted. Can't drink tea.
Tapered ( talk) 01:38, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
My fellow Wikipedians, I am minorly concerned at the speed in which Google lists new articles into its search engine. I do a fair bit of new page patrolling and I tag a lot of pages as copyright violations. In order to find the source of the suspected violations I will copy and paste a few lines of the suspect article into Google. Invariably, the very first thing to appear is the article itself. I just ignore it and go onto the next until I find (or don't find) the source. However, I am just a tad concerned that Google is sucking in and possibly caching a large number of articles that will soon be deleted for a variety of reasons. So, does this present any issue? I think it would be a good idea to have a 12 to 24 hour wait on google listings, just to ensure that the article isn't speedily deleted or subject to other major modifications. Thoughts? Basket of Puppies 19:14, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
{{
NOINDEX}}
unpatrolled pages.
Jehochman
Talk
19:16, 23 November 2009 (UTC)Doesen't COI BOT do searches for new pages and tag them if they are copy-paste's? Tim1357 ( talk) 17:00, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Can I remind everyone that one of the strongest pillars of Wikipedia atm, is it's current events coverage ? Putting all new articles in a 24 hour index hold, might significantly hurt ourselves. noindex for unpatrolled pages is something I can imagine, but a 24 hour block seems a bit too much, if it isn't better thought out. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 00:36, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
If successful the cached page of the deleted article will be removed, and all that will remain is the search URL without the cache link, and going only to the deletion notice page.
This cache removal submission to Google could probably be automated as part of the page deletion process. 64.91.85.115 ( talk) 20:12, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Oddly, the same discussion seems to be happening at VPR: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Mark_pages_less_than_24_hours_old_for_no-indexing. Personally, I see no policy reason why pages should be indexed immediately (with rare exceptions for topical articles, and I could live with even those waiting 24 hours - WP:NOTNEWS). Rd232 talk 22:24, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
In the article Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, the numbering of the notes in the text and those in the "References and Notes" sections don't match. For example, the note numbered [2] in the infobox links to 19; hence all numbers between 3 and 18 inclusive link incorrectly. I've tried making a trivial edit and re-saving, but it doesn't make any difference. So I assume there must be some kind of technical error. Could someone knowledgeable look at this please? Peter coxhead ( talk) 10:56, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
We now have a new central page for discussing MediaWiki interface messages: Wikipedia:MediaWiki messages. It is kind of a "Village pump (MediaWiki messages)". So ladies and gentlemen, if MediaWiki interface messages interest you, consider adding that page to your watchlist.
-- David Göthberg ( talk) 20:14, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
A user has suggested that we delete all MediaWiki messages which are now identical to the default messages, since he has heard that performance is slightly improved if the local MediaWiki message is deleted (or remains uncreated). This concerns a couple of hundred interface messages. If anyone knows anything about this, would you care to comment over at Wikipedia:MediaWiki messages#MediaWiki:1movedto2?
-- David Göthberg ( talk) 19:15, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
When uploading an image, occasionally I get this dialog box. Perhaps 1 time out of 20. It always hangs at 0% and I have to restart the process to upload the file, then this dialog does not pop up. Any ideas on what is triggering this? ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 21:14, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
|http://en.wikipedia.org/w/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/*
Previous: Main space right-aligned title elements broken again
Is this a serious enough problem in article space for someone to fix now? OrangeDog ( τ • ε) 13:14, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
<span id="coordinates">
<span style="position:absolute; z-index:60; right:35px; top:-40px;">
#bodyContent { position:relative; }
topicon {
top:-3em !important;
}
#coordinates{
top:-1em !important;
right: 0px; !important;
}
appendCSS('#siteSub {display:none !important} \n#bodyContent { position:relative; } \n.topicon { top:-3em !important; } \n#coordinates{ top:-1em !important; right: 0px !important; }');
I think wikipedia is a brilliant project. However one thing is still missing, that might enhance systems usability greatly. It should be possible to search by means of any combination of keywords. Then a specialt page should appear containing links to every one of the matching articles. Ideally the following (advanced) search possibilities should exist side by side:
1. Only the articles containing ALL the keywords (in a text-field for this) shorld be found. 2. Only the articles NOT containing any of the keywords (in a text field for this) should be found. 3. Only articles containing ANY of the keywords (in a text field for this) should be found.
If only one search filed is provided, a syntax using & for logical AND, | for logical OR, and ! for logical NOT (perhaps even including the use of parentheses)
An example: I wish to find all the articles containing the words Cowboy and Indian but neither the word Movie nor the word Fiction. Then I might use this search-string:
Cowboy & Indian & !(Movie | Fiction)
Harlekin96 ( talk) 07:02, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Is there an easy way to search my own contributions (or any user's) for new pages? I am just trying to get a list of articles I have created.— NMajdan• talk 19:31, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
I have figured out how to get rid of the problems that the Usability Initiative was causing me.
I guess many of you by now have heard about the Usability Initiative. And that you have noticed the problems it causes, since they are inserting experimental code. It seems that users are randomly picked to for instance run their ClickTracking JavaScript and new features, so the usability people can test and study how we behave and how their new features work. And it seems each user runs this for some hours, then it is turned off and perhaps comes back some hours the next day, and so on. So far so good, I don't mind that.
However, I have an old computer, so loading and running all their code make my page loads ridiculously slow. And sometimes their code is very buggy and causes all kinds of problems. I am here to code templates and do other productive stuff, so I don't have the time to be their guinea pig. So I figured out how to get rid of this problem:
I have Firefox with the excellent add-on "Adblock Plus". So I added this rule to its filters:
|http://en.wikipedia.org/w/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/*
That rule blocks all the JavaScript and CSS files from the Usability Initiative. And wow! Now I can edit Wikipedia again! And pages are rendered at an acceptable speed again.
And before anyone says: "That was probably just a coincidence". Well, I have tried every now and then to turn that rule off, and every time I have it off (and at the same time is picked to run their experimental code), then things get slow and buggy again. And I have read their code, it repeatedly uses functions that we tell our JavaScript coders here to avoid, since we know those functions slow things down too much. So no, it isn't a coincidence.
Don't add that rule to your Adblock filtering (or whatever ad-blocking program you have in your browser) if you are using the Vector skin, since the Vector skin is dependant on the Usability code.
-- David Göthberg ( talk) 05:28, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
getElementsByClassName()
function. It is a very heavy function. So the more experienced JavaScript coders here have told us to avoid that function. And I see that those experienced coders themselves go to great lengths in their own codes to avoid using that function. But I know it is a very nifty function, I have been tempted to use it myself...Trying to enter an rfc on a discussion page. It seems to require a verticle straight line which doesn't exist on my 9 yr old keyboard. Can any other character be substituted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tapered ( talk • contribs) 07:27, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
\
) only with Shift pressed. Have you tried using English keyboard layout, if you are using other national layout? As a last resort, you can always
copy it from somewhere (e.g. here: |
). Also, depending on what exactly do you need it, it could be substituted by the string {{subst:!}}
.
Svick (
talk)
09:06, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
{{}} {{{}}} | [] [[]]
and more stuff. The pipe symbol is between the triple-curly brackets and single-square brackets.~ | ¡ ¿ † ‡
and more stuff. The pipe symbol is second (between tilde and upside-down exclamation point).˩ ꜛ ꜜ | ‖ ↗ ↘ k͈ s͎ {{IPA|}}
. The pipe symbol is just before the double bar and the two diagonal arrows. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
16:41, 2 December 2009 (UTC)First, thanks for all the help and the informative discussion. It IS the character over backslash, in spite the deceptive symbol on the key. Is this the same for Apple products? Before I discovered this, I resorted to copy and paste. Thanks again Wikipedians! Tapered ( talk) 22:19, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Is there any way to view a block log for an entire CIDR range, as opposed to IP-by-IP? Thanks. — Zach425 talk/ contribs 18:19, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
I think a tool that selected a random article from a category would be useful in maintaining Wikipedia. Currently we have several housekeeping categories, e.g. Category:Unreferenced BLPs, that have a large number of entries, filling many pages. An editor wishing to spend a little time on cleanup, must do some work to find a good place to start. A random-article-in-category widget could be added to such category pages or to pages listing cleanup work that needs doing. It shouldn't be hard to implement and I think it would make cleanup chores more enjoyable and hence there'd be more effort put in to badly needed work.-- agr ( talk) 22:20, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Amideg On December 1, 2009, I made edits and added references to the article mentioned above. All edits and references were deleted after less than half an hour by editor named ItsmeJudith. Today, December 3rd,I see that my edits and references of December 1st no longer appear on the history page of the article, nor is there any trace of ItsmeJudith's deletions. How is this possible?? Amideg ( talk) 15:04, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Does anyone here know VB and so could help out with the Kingbotk plugin. It's not working to spec in the new builds of AWB per Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs#Kingbotk plugin not assessing in SVN version. Thanks. Hiding T 17:28, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Just posted my first RfC. I listed two categories. It has only appeared in the list of the first category. The article is in this category, but for the issue in question, the second category is probably more relevant and likely to draw comment.
Question: does only the first category automatically post the its respective list? If so is there a way to post to the second list? If not, is it permissible to reverse the order of listing to post to the more relevant list? Do I need to delete and start over?
Tapered ( talk) 22:33, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
{{
rfctag}}
with multiple parameters to list a RfC in more categories. I merged the {{rfctag}}
s in your RfC this way, so, hopefully,
RFC bot will figure it out. If not,
you can add the RfC to the second category manually, but then don't forget to remove it after the RfC ends.
Svick (
talk)
00:43, 4 December 2009 (UTC)Thanks. Now I understand. My hasty reading and the way it's illustrated led me to believe I'd done it the right way. Thanks again. 69.226.245.37 ( talk) 04:40, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
anyone else noticed this? YellowMonkey ( bananabucket) ( Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 01:05, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
It's known, the smart people are looking at it. Should be good once the replag comes back down.
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03:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
I logged in a couple minutes ago and saw the "new messages" orange bar appear on my screen. I clicked on the link and went to my talk page, then clicked on my watchlist; however, the orange bar did not disappear when I clicked away from my talk page, and in this very edit screen that I am writing this message the bar is still there. This problem persists even after logging out, closing and re-opening my browser, and logging in again. Does anyone know how to remove it? I have purged and bypassed my cache, and have Firefox 3 on Windows XP. Thanks, Dabomb87 ( talk) 01:06, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
On November 22 I submitted a new article on Harry H. Halsell, but as of today it does not show up in a search, nor do preexisting links to this subject (such as may be found in the article on Grace Halsell) indicate that it exists. The article does appear under my contributions, but does not seem to be available to the general public. As far as I can tell, I followed the guidelines for submission, and have found nothing in the help files to indicate why it wouldn't appear. Any ideas what's going on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xenon456 ( talk • contribs) 04:09, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it exists... It's unsustainable though, so there's no real point in having it... except if the category is automatically added by the software. This seems possible, since it's done for example with Category:Noindexed pages. But it should be only for redirects in mainspace; or there should be a category of redirects for each namespace. So, do you think we should request this at bugzilla, for the mainspace at least ? Cenarium ( talk) 00:02, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
I have found some advantages in an automatic categorization of redirects though: we can see recent changes to redirects, on the category page it provides a link for new/inexperienced users who are often confused by them, and if T20596 is resolved, we'll be able to know if a page is a redirect in the interface (so editnotice for redirects, useful for new users). Cenarium ( talk) 04:28, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
OK some categories of redirects are useful - "with possibilities" is the one that springs to mind. Therefore screening all redirects to see if they are in that category is also useful. The use of an "uncategorized category" is a way to do that, as is maybe the category "redirects". Rich Farmbrough, 21:50, 15 November 2009 (UTC).
So back to the original point, should we request at bugzilla that all redirects in mainspace be automatically categorized (like noindexed pages) in a category such as Category:Redirects ? It would offer several advantages:
Cenarium ( talk) 22:27, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
page.page_is_redirect
), so this should be a cinch. —
This, that, and
the other (talk)
06:37, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Not sure if this is the right spot to start this discussion, but... Is it possible that when someone uploads a file that immediately is tagged at upload with the Only non-commercial or educational use of this file is permitted restriction (& the F3 template is added) - that at the same time the same warning template is placed on the uploader's talk page. I don't think this would be bot-worthy, as the files are usually deleted very quickly. The reason for this is that the uploaders often do not read this warning, and other users (admins) are forced to repeat the warning message when explaining why the image/file was deleted. Suggestions? Skier Dude ( talk) 04:08, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm looking for a way to see if a newly created page has been previously deleted. Is such a privilege available to mere mortals (or rollbackers or the auto-confirmed or whatever). I see there was some discussion on view-deleted-pages that appears to be on hold.-- RadioFan ( talk) 21:06, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
I would like to search, for example, prefix: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests but only the main page (where the arbcom decisions have been made) not the subpages, "Workshop" "Evidence" etc.
Is that possible?
Examples are always best, so lets say for example I am searching for the word "decorum" a favorite of the Arbcom.
Thank you. Ikip ( talk) 21:38, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Why not create an expert forum to find new ideas or technical solutions to reduce costs of wikipedia?
To do this we need first to Know how are composed costs of wikipedia.
And than experts had to write ideas and envolve other experts to find new solutions
We can create some general issiues like:
- how to reduce energy consumption
- how to reduce CPU usage
- how to use (if it is possible) CPUs of online users instead of server CPU
- how to reduce band used
- how to improve caching
- how to reduce total byte downloaded by users
- how to etc....
Can anyone post some informations about costs of maintenance of wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.4.249.168 ( talk) 11:15, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
WP:DevMemo for November 2009 ( Wikipedia:MediaWiki/DeveloperMemo/November2009) is now closed, awaiting a response from developers. (The next one, Wikipedia:MediaWiki/DeveloperMemo/December2009 is now in draft, seeded with the old issues.) Could someone please notify developers of the memo, and ask them to respond to the November memo? Thanks. Rd232 talk 19:54, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Could we have more input on the proposed autocategorization of redirects: more support would be needed for a site request. Thanks, Cenarium ( talk) 23:19, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
(I tried to find some help on IRC but there doesn't seem to be anyone available right now.)
I'm trying to replace
[http://www.sclegacy.com/encyclopedia/starcraft_story.php#(\S+) Transcript]
with
[http://web.archive.org/web/20040810213217/http://www.sclegacy.com/encyclopedia/starcraft_story.php#$1 Transcript] (Archived from [http://www.sclegacy.com/encyclopedia/starcraft_story.php#$1 the original] on 2004-10-08)
Basically, just tacking a web.archive.org link to the front of dead links, and using the backreference to preserve the anchor that was in the original hook. rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 23:29, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
\[http://www.sclegacy.com/encyclopedia/starcraft_story.php#(\S+) Transcript\]
I have written a page explaining the secure server: Wikipedia:Secure server. I'd like some native English speakers and some technically minded people to check if anything needs fixing. (I'm not a native English speaker.) And I'd love questions from beginners on its talk page, since then we will know if any part of that page is unclear.
I made that page since there seems to be no documentation anywhere about the secure server. I have searched the English editions of all the Wikimedia projects.
When that page feels ready, then I intend to add a link to that page from the secure server login page. See MediaWiki talk:Loginend#Brush-up of code.
-- David Göthberg ( talk) 15:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
We are also doing some other changes to the log in page. See MediaWiki talk:Loginend#Brush-up of code. (I forgot to mention that in the above section.)
-- David Göthberg ( talk) 09:11, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
I've seen two occurrences where saving a comment apparently deleted previously saved comments. Both saving editors indicate they got no "edit conflict" (or any notice of problem). Both were baffled and apologetic when their (unintentional) deletions were brought to their attention.
The two diffs I've seen.
New problem? Proofreader77 ( talk) 22:09, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
A while back, I made {{ mountain index row}} to help create tables for mountain set index articles. But, the template has been broken, and intermittently emits spurious carriage returns. See, e.g., List of peaks named Bear Mountain for the problem.
Can a template expert help me fix this template? I've been puzzled about this for a long time. Please respond at Template talk:Mountain index row ( | template | history | links | watch | logs). Thanks!! — hike395 ( talk) 04:33, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
WP:PUNC says to use typewriter/straight apostrophes and quotes ('' and "") and not typographic/curly apostrophes and quotes (‘’ and “”). However, beneath the edit window and the "Save page" etc. buttons, the Insert menu begins with
– — ‘’ “” ° ″ ′ ≈
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the third and fourth clickable items here look awfully like curly apostrophes and quotes. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 15:23, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
When I was working on an unblock request for an IP user, I checked the contributions log and saw a block notification at the top of the page. All well and good, except that the block notification was from a block issued for 2 weeks on January 15th of this year. Is this a bug? - Jeremy ( v^_^v Stop... at a WHAMMY!!) 20:25, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
01:16, November 30, 2009, Dominic (talk | contribs | block) blocked 207.69.136.0/22 (talk) (expires on December 14, 2009 at 01:16, anon. only, account creation blocked) ({{checkuserblock}}) (unblock | change block)
My regular Firefox browser (version 1.0, 2004) crashes whenever I try to access a Wikipedia page. Does anybody know what's happening? can this be fixed by changing the settings? (I asked this before, but the thread seems to have vanished.) Fremdh ( talk) 16:18, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks everybody, but I'd have liked an answer to my question... Fremdh ( talk) 11:48, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Look: Wikipedia is supposed to be for everybody, not just those with equipment and software younger than their pet mice. Pretty clearly nobody knows what's caused the problem. I think it must be in a stylesheet change sometime in the last three months; I say this because if I copy a Wikipedia page to my own site, it loads perfectly well, though of course without most of its decorations. I don't believe that the change was in any strict sense necessary (did any of you notice a change in the general formatting of Wikipedia pages?), and I think Wikipedia should try to avoid such tinkering as far as possible. Fremdh ( talk) 10:39, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Problem solved: block javascript. There is a downside to this, but I can live with it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fremdh ( talk • contribs) 20:24, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
actually, firefox crashes regularly when I go to wikipedia - it seems to hang on an editing cycle (hangs on a preview or save). I have version 3.5.5. It doesn't crash me anywhere else except on a wikipedia edit cycle. However, I have determined it must be one of my add-ons. It doesn't seem to happen when I bring up Firefox in safe mode. So.. if I figure out which add-on is causing the problem, I will post it here. The problem is that it doesn't happen all the time. It seems to take repeated views in the edit cycle for it to happen. So - I will just keep playing around with it until I can narrow it down. stmrlbs| talk 22:29, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Some other language versions of the project use just a superscripted number to denote a footnote, but the English version uses a number in square brackets. Why is that? Using just a number would be far more pleasing to the eye and would improve readability. - Rrius ( talk) 09:15, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
I've often found myself looking for the © symbol, and it's always a pain to have to go and copy/paste it from elsewhere. Is there any chance it could be added to the insert menu (unless I'm just being dim and it's already there)? PC78 ( talk) 19:47, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
This may be a long shot, but I'm wondering if anyone who has any influence in such matters could press for a long-standing bug (and, for me, regular irritant) in Wikipedia's "diff" generation to be fixed. This is a typical example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nonsuch_Palace&action=historysubmit&diff=328327302&oldid=283689391
You can see that several paragraphs that are identical or substantially identical are flagged as completely different, due to the software getting confused for some reason that I do not fully understand. I believe this is logged as a known issue, and has been for some time, but is seen as low priority and appears unlikely to ever be fixed without a prod from someone. If there is a more appropriate place for me to post this request then please let me know. 86.146.46.190 ( talk) 21:58, 5 December 2009 (UTC).
Hello fine folks. I was think whether it would be possible to provide a login-while-editing option in wikipedia pages. That is, suppose you are not logged in. You want to edit a page, and you want to do it under your ID, not anonymously. Currently you have to first click login which leads you to the login page. Then you enter your login info and click login which leads you back to the article page. Then you click edit and you can edit under your ID. What I am proposing is, can't we provide a system in which you don't have to first login and then click edit. Instead, you simply click edit, and provide the login information on the edit page itself (kinda like what livejournal and blogger do when you want to post a comment). It saves two page-loads (three if you include logging out). This can be very useful for users who want to make a quick edit but don't because they don't want to go through the process of logging in and then logging out. just for a single edit. Such people may either not want to use thet "stay logged-in" option or may be using a different computer. I don't see any problems with protected pages etc. that can't be easily solved while using this scheme. What do you think? -- ReluctantPhilosopher ( talk) 03:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I'm trying to write something up about citation templates and page loading. It appears that when an article contains lots of citation templates, it becomes increasingly slow to load. I don't know whether that's because of the templates directly, or whether it's simply that longer articles may have more templates and the length also happens to make them slow to load. Does anyone know the answer? SlimVirgin 12:33, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
<!-- NewPP limit report Preprocessor node count: 3144/1000000 Post-expand include size: 64735/2048000 bytes Template argument size: 32961/2048000 bytes Expensive parser function count: 1/500 -->
<!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:5554932-0!1!0!mdy!!en!3 and timestamp 20091206124419 -->
<!-- Served by srv173 in 0.912 secs. -->
An active followup thread can be found in Wikipedia talk:Citing sources #Making pages faster to load. Eubulides ( talk) 04:11, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Anyone know if there is a bug for this particular issue?
<div>[[foo]]<br> [[foo]]<br> [[foo]]<br> [[foo]]<br> [[foo]]</div>
outputs the following html
<div><a href="/info/en/?search=Foo" title="Foo" class="mw-redirect">foo</a><br /> <p><a href="/info/en/?search=Foo" title="Foo" class="mw-redirect">foo</a><br /> <a href="/info/en/?search=Foo" title="Foo" class="mw-redirect">foo</a><br /> <a href="/info/en/?search=Foo" title="Foo" class="mw-redirect">foo</a><br /></p> <a href="/info/en/?search=Foo" title="Foo" class="mw-redirect">foo</a></div>
which displays
— RockMFR 18:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
<p>...</p>
tags. ---—
Gadget850 (Ed)
talk
12:57, 7 December 2009 (UTC)Is there any way to make the Greensleeves file in my user page start playing immediately as the page is loaded, without the reader having to click on it? -- ___A. di M. 22:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Would there be a way to add this option to Preferences? I'm not saying that it's there now, but could it be an upcoming feature? Woogee ( talk) 00:05, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Sophisticated hacker vandalism to this important public health page,
2009 flu pandemic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic
Instead of using hacking skills to puncture the ego of publicity-hound, a hacker has chosen to vandalize the "Vaccines" section of this page, by adding
"This is in strong contrast to the 1976 swine flu outbreak, where mass vaccinations in the United States caused over 1,000,000 cases where peoples heads fell off.[71]"
The attempt at humor is buttressed by coding that makes it impossible for an ordinary user to remove it, so that when one goes to the "edit" screen to revert the vandalism, the "funny joke" is not found there. If one prints a preview of the text on the edit screen, the text is not found there, either. Same results for the edit screens of either the Vaccines section or for the entire article.
Need to identify the hack and hacker, and take steps to remove both from the site.
MAIN ARTICLE CONTAINS THE VANDALISM
Vaccines
Main article: 2009 flu pandemic vaccine As of November 19, 2009, over 65 million doses of vaccine had been administered in over 16 countries; the vaccine seems safe and effective, producing a strong immune response that should protect against infection.[67] The current trivalent seasonal influenza vaccine neither increases nor decreases the risk of infection with H1N1, since the new pandemic strain is quite different from the strains used in this vaccine.[68][69] Overall the safety profile of the new H1N1 vaccine is similar to that of the seasonal flu vaccine, and fewer than a dozen cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome have been reported post-vaccination.[70] Only a few of these are suspected to be actually related to the H1N1 vaccination, and only temporary illness has been observed.[70] This is in strong contrast to the 1976 swine flu outbreak, where mass vaccinations in the United States caused over 1,000,000 cases where peoples heads fell off.[71]
There are safety concerns for people who are allergic to eggs because the viruses for the vaccine are grown in chicken-egg-based cultures. People with egg allergies may be able to receive the vaccine, after consultation with their physician, in graded doses in a careful and controlled environment.[72] A vaccine manufactured by Baxter is made without using eggs, but requires two doses three weeks apart to produce immunity.[73]
As of late November in Canada, there have been 24 confirmed cases of anaphylactic shock following vaccination, including one death. The estimated rate is 1 anaphylactic reaction per 312,000 persons receiving the vaccine. However, there has been one batch of vaccine in which 6 persons suffered anaphylaxis out of 157,000 doses given. The relatively few remainder doses of this batch are being held pending investigation. Dr. David Butler-Jones, Canada’s chief public health officer, has stated that even though this is an adjuvanted vaccine, that does not appear to be the cause of this severe allergic reaction in these 6 patients.[74][75]
EDIT PAGE DOES NOT CONTAIN THE VANDALISM
Vaccines
As of November 19, 2009 [update], over 65 million doses of vaccine had been administered in over 16 countries; the vaccine seems safe and effective, producing a strong immune response that should protect against infection. [1] The current trivalent seasonal influenza vaccine neither increases nor decreases the risk of infection with H1N1, since the new pandemic strain is quite different from the strains used in this vaccine. [2] [3] Overall the safety profile of the new H1N1 vaccine is similar to that of the seasonal flu vaccine, and fewer than a dozen cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome have been reported post-vaccination. [4] Only a few of these are suspected to be actually related to the H1N1 vaccination, and only temporary illness has been observed. [4] This is in strong contrast to the 1976 swine flu outbreak, where mass vaccinations in the United States caused over 500 cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome and led to 25 deaths. [5]
There are safety concerns for people who are allergic to eggs because the viruses for the vaccine are grown in chicken-egg-based cultures. People with egg allergies may be able to receive the vaccine, after consultation with their physician, in graded doses in a careful and controlled environment. [6] A vaccine manufactured by Baxter is made without using eggs, but requires two doses three weeks apart to produce immunity. [7]
As of late November in Canada, there have been 24 confirmed cases of anaphylactic shock following vaccination, including one death. The estimated rate is 1 anaphylactic reaction per 312,000 persons receiving the vaccine. However, there has been one batch of vaccine in which 6 persons suffered anaphylaxis out of 157,000 doses given. The relatively few remainder doses of this batch are being held pending investigation. Dr. David Butler-Jones, Canada’s chief public health officer, has stated that even though this is an adjuvanted vaccine, that does not appear to be the cause of this severe allergic reaction in these 6 patients. [8] [9]
THE EDIT PREVIEW PAGE ALSO DOES NOT REVEAL THE VANDALISM
Editing 2009 flu pandemic (section)
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Main article: 2009 flu pandemic vaccine
As of November 19, 2009, over 65 million doses of vaccine had been administered in over 16 countries; the vaccine seems safe and effective, producing a strong immune response that should protect against infection.[1] The current trivalent seasonal influenza vaccine neither increases nor decreases the risk of infection with H1N1, since the new pandemic strain is quite different from the strains used in this vaccine.[2][3] Overall the safety profile of the new H1N1 vaccine is similar to that of the seasonal flu vaccine, and fewer than a dozen cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome have been reported post-vaccination.[4] Only a few of these are suspected to be actually related to the H1N1 vaccination, and only temporary illness has been observed.[4] This is in strong contrast to the 1976 swine flu outbreak, where mass vaccinations in the United States caused over 500 cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome and led to 25 deaths.[5]
There are safety concerns for people who are allergic to eggs because the viruses for the vaccine are grown in chicken-egg-based cultures. People with egg allergies may be able to receive the vaccine, after consultation with their physician, in graded doses in a careful and controlled environment.[6] A vaccine manufactured by Baxter is made without using eggs, but requires two doses three weeks apart to produce immunity.[7]
As of late November in Canada, there have been 24 confirmed cases of anaphylactic shock following vaccination, including one death. The estimated rate is 1 anaphylactic reaction per 312,000 persons receiving the vaccine. However, there has been one batch of vaccine in which 6 persons suffered anaphylaxis out of 157,000 doses given. The relatively few remainder doses of this batch are being held pending investigation. Dr. David Butler-Jones, Canada’s chief public health officer, has stated that even though this is an adjuvanted vaccine, that does not appear to be the cause of this severe allergic reaction in these 6 patients.[8][9]
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.165.11.37 ( talk) 00:10, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I have found and seen a lot of people comment that the minor edit box is misused a lot. Many people, even some veteran editors, simply do not know or bother to follow the guidelines as to what is considered a "minor" edit. They use it to lazily not explain a more major edit, or attempt to slip by a controversial change.
An idea I came up with to solve this problem is to replace the minor edit box with several other boxes that could be checked in lieu of one called "minor edit." Anyone who is making any such minor edit would check the appropriate box. All others would be compelled to explain.
Some possible boxes would be as follows (though the number should be reduced to simplify it):
With this proposal, there would be the option of checking multiple boxes.
If the edit summary is left blank, what is in the checked box would automatically become the edit summary.
I am not saying all these examples have to be listed, or that other suggestions can't be added. But one thing for sure is it'll stop the incorrect use of the minor edit box. Sebwite ( talk) 05:33, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Sebwite ( talk) 17:44, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I was looking at the Charles Cullen article and noticed a merge template that seemed redundant but it does not appear in the edit page. I am not sure how to remove it Matt ( talk) 11:21, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm thinking of making something similar to the special characters input tool (underneath every edit window) for a site of my own, and I've been snooping around the page source trying to figure out how it works. Specifically, I'm looking at this part of the page's source code:
<div id="editpage-specialchars" style="margin-top: 15px; border: 1px solid #aaaaaa; padding: 2px;" class="edittools-text edittools-version-019"> <p><b>Copy and paste:</b> – — ‘ ’ “ ” ° ″ ′ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § <b>Sign your posts on talk pages:</b> ~~~~ </p> <hr /> <p><small> {{}} {{{}}} | [] [[]] [[Category:]] #REDIRECT [[]] <s></s> <sup></sup> <sub></sub> <code></code> <pre></pre> <blockquote></blockquote> <ref></ref> {{Reflist}} <references/> <includeonly></includeonly> <noinclude></noinclude> {{DEFAULTSORT:}} <nowiki></nowiki> <!-- --> <span class="plainlinks"></span> </small> </p> <hr /> <p><small> <b>Symbols:</b> ~ | ¡ ¿ † ‡ ↔ ↑ ↓ • ¶ # ½ ⅓ ⅔ ¼ ¾ ⅛ ⅜ ⅝ ⅞ ∞ ‘ ’ “ ” «» ¤ ₳ ฿ ₵ ¢ ₡ ₢ $ ₫ ₯ € ₠ ₣ ƒ ₴ ₭ ₤ ℳ ₥ ₦ № ₧ ₰ £ ៛ ₨ ₪ ৳ ₮ ₩ ¥ ♠ ♣ ♥ ♦ m² m³ ♭ ♯ ♮ © ® ™<br/> <b>Characters:</b> Á á Ć ć É é Í í Ĺ ĺ Ń ń Ó ó Ŕ ŕ Ś ś Ú ú Ý ý Ź ź À à È è Ì ì Ò ò Ù ù  â Ĉ ĉ Ê ê Ĝ ĝ Ĥ ĥ Î î Ĵ ĵ Ô ô Ŝ ŝ Û û Ŵ ŵ Ŷ ŷ Ä ä Ë ë Ï ï Ö ö Ü ü Ÿ ÿ ß Ã ã Ẽ ẽ Ĩ ĩ Ñ ñ Õ õ Ũ ũ Ỹ ỹ Ç ç Ģ ģ Ķ ķ Ļ ļ Ņ ņ Ŗ ŗ Ş ş Ţ ţ Đ đ Ů ů Ǎ ǎ Č č Ď ď Ě ě Ǐ ǐ Ľ ľ Ň ň Ǒ ǒ Ř ř Š š Ť ť Ǔ ǔ Ž ž Ā ā Ē ē Ī ī Ō ō Ū ū Ȳ ȳ Ǣ ǣ ǖ ǘ ǚ ǜ Ă ă Ĕ ĕ Ğ ğ Ĭ ĭ Ŏ ŏ Ŭ ŭ Ċ ċ Ė ė Ġ ġ İ ı Ż ż Ą ą Ę ę Į į Ǫ ǫ Ų ų Ḍ ḍ Ḥ ḥ Ḷ ḷ Ḹ ḹ Ṃ ṃ Ṇ ṇ Ṛ ṛ Ṝ ṝ Ṣ ṣ Ṭ ṭ Ł ł Ő ő Ű ű Ŀ ŀ Ħ ħ Ð ð Þ þ Œ œ Æ æ Ø ø Å å Ə ə {{Unicode|}} <br/> <b>Greek:</b> Ά ά Έ έ Ή ή Ί ί Ό ό Ύ ύ Ώ ώ Α α Β β Γ γ Δ δ Ε ε Ζ ζ Η η Θ θ Ι ι Κ κ Λ λ Μ μ Ν ν Ξ ξ Ο ο Π π Ρ ρ Σ σ ς Τ τ Υ υ Φ φ Χ χ Ψ ψ Ω ω {{Polytonic|}} <br/> <b>Cyrillic:</b> А а Б б В в Г г Ґ ґ Ѓ ѓ Д д Ђ ђ Е е Ё ё Є є Ж ж З з Ѕ ѕ И и І і Ї ї Й й Ј ј К к Ќ ќ Л л Љ љ М м Н н Њ њ О о П п Р р С с Т т Ћ ћ У у Ў ў Ф ф Х х Ц ц Ч ч Џ џ Ш ш Щ щ Ъ ъ Ы ы Ь ь Э э Ю ю Я я ́ <br/> <b>IPA:</b> t̪ d̪ ʈ ɖ ɟ ɡ ɢ ʡ ʔ ɸ ʃ ʒ ɕ ʑ ʂ ʐ ʝ ɣ ʁ ʕ ʜ ʢ ɦ ɱ ɳ ɲ ŋ ɴ ʋ ɹ ɻ ɰ ʙ ʀ ɾ ɽ ɫ ɬ ɮ ɺ ɭ ʎ ʟ ɥ ʍ ɧ ɓ ɗ ʄ ɠ ʛ ʘ ǀ ǃ ǂ ǁ ɨ ʉ ɯ ɪ ʏ ʊ ɘ ɵ ɤ ə ɚ ɛ ɜ ɝ ɞ ʌ ɔ ɐ ɶ ɑ ɒ ʰ ʷ ʲ ˠ ˤ ⁿ ˡ ˈ ˌ ː ˑ ̪ {{IPA|}} </small> </p> </div>
I assume the important thing here is the class="edittools-text edittools-version-019"
. I looked around the 6 or 7 stylesheets that are linked at the top of the source code, but I couldn't find this object anywhere. Does anyone have any idea where it might be located?
Thanks, rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 20:24, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that the "insert citation" feature in the edit toolbar now automatically inserts access dates as "8 December 2009" instead of "2009-12-08" as it did previously. Why has this been changed? I thought the consensus at Wikipedia:Mosnum/proposal on YYYY-MM-DD numerical dates was to keep the YYYY-MM-DD dates in footnotes (especially for access dates). Another reason why this change is bad is that the previously inserted access dates are still mostly YYYY-MM-DD and the new ones are not, which creates inconsistency (which is a major problem.) Can this change to the toolbar functionality be reverted somehow? Offliner ( talk) 03:08, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I am extremely puzzled by not being able to locate an article that I know for a fact existed. I once read the article myself and I have even found websites that quote the article :ORSAT Analysis
Hi,
I am using Windows XP, Service pack 3 v.5512. Though I can operate the google toolokit, but I cant read the bengali articles that are uploaded in wikipedia. Kindly let me know how to go about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.43.57 ( talk) 06:27, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Using Firefox 3.5.5 on Vista on the beta skin. Are these supposed to be bugs or are they intentional? :x -- Izno ( talk) 08:42, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
div.siteNoticeBig
received onclick=goToDonationPage()
, so naturally clicking on [hide] takes you to the donation page as well. —
AlexSm
16:01, 9 December 2009 (UTC)Let's say template A contains a link to article B and is transcluded on article C, when checking "What links here" on article B, C is on the list. The problem I found is that if the link on the template is changed to point to D, C will still show up on the list even though there is no link to B, transcluded or otherwise, on C. Is this a known issue, does it take time to update, or am I doing something wrong? Keyed In ( talk) 18:18, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Please see discussion at WT:Blocking IP addresses#Updates required? and respond there. OrangeDog ( τ • ε) 20:26, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I've had this issue before and I can't remember how I solved it, or if I really did, but a SVG file that I updated with a newer version yesterday refuses to appear updated in the PNG files. Here's the file, and Here's how its supposed to look. I've checked around, and I don't think its just my machine. It doesn't usually take this long to fix itself, so is there something I can do?-- Patrick { oѺ∞} 19:52, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
How do I enable Huggle? I have the (that I understand) correct values set here, but when I try to log on with Huggle it says "Huggle is not enabled on your account, check user configuration page." What am I not doing? Thanks. -- Mike Allen talk · contribs 06:05, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
I have a question about Twinkle ( user, TW). I am tagging articles for CSD but the tab for CSD doesn't work. All of the other menu in Twinkle does work, but CSD doesn't. This was the first time happened since I start to use Twinkle.-- JL 09 q? c 15:51, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
The talk pages of KAL007 have been archived. The problem is two-fold:
I do not know if that page (number 6 archive) was done automatically by a bot, or if someone did it manually. Either way, I think the situation needs to be repaired, so that the entire talk history of KAL007 is fully preserved and accessible. I am reluctant to try to fix it myself, because of the admonition that archived pages should not be edited.
Here are the links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007/Archive_5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007/Archive_6
Can someone fix it? EditorASC ( talk) 22:56, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
{{
Archive box}}
on the talk page and add the relevant information.
Peachey88 (
Talk Page ·
Contribs)
23:13, 10 December 2009 (UTC)The help links on the search page got removed (without any discussion) when the new search interface was deployed some time ago. There is a discussion about adding them back. See MediaWiki talk:Searchmenu-exists#Renewed request.
And a reminder: We now have a new central page for discussing MediaWiki interface messages: Wikipedia:MediaWiki messages. It is kind of a "Village pump (MediaWiki messages)". So if MediaWiki interface messages interest you, consider adding that page to your watchlist.
-- David Göthberg ( talk) 03:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Norton Safe Web from Symantec has tagged wikimedia as having a virus at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/AVMeiyappan_young.jpg . Perhaps Norton should be notified of an error...or is there really a virus sitting on wikimedia? Smallman12q ( talk) 00:56, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
This is sort of a technical proposal, so maybe it's in the wrong place. I was thinking recently about a possible tool, essentially a Contribution page (like [4]) that you could add multiple users to. It would presumably sort edits chronologically- the purpose being to see all of a sock puppeteer's edits in-line with his socks, for a more complete overview of their editing style, and to spot 3RR-by-proxy, etc.
Would this be technically difficult to put together? And again, is this the wrong place? -- King Öomie 15:33, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
I and other users have expressed persistent time out errors when comparing histories or previewing changes at List of Wii games. This problem seems to be specific to this article. Any help appreciated. Error message for reference:
Request: GET http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_Wii_games&action=historysubmit&diff=330867755&oldid=330850001, from 68.14.224.197 via sq33.wikimedia.org (squid/2.7.STABLE6) to 208.80.152.29 (208.80.152.29) Error: ERR_READ_TIMEOUT, errno [No Error] at Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:47:57 GMT
Aether7 ( talk) 19:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Preprocessor node count: 493958/1000000
). It could be caused by the extensive use of {{
dts}}
. I guess it would be worth trying to replace them with some simpler template or no template at all.
Svick (
talk)
19:28, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
{{
dts vgr2}}
. I switched the article to this template, and it uses much less preprocessor nodes now, but I had to change dates like “Q4 2009” to just “2009” and dates that use {{
TBA}}
don't sort properly. The latter issue could be easily solved by not using that template, but I don't know how to solve the former.
Svick (
talk)
22:01, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Could someone take a look at the edit history of Talk:Jack Sarfatti ( | article | history | links | watch | logs)? The two edits made by 98.234.144.82 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) recently have been greyed out and the logs give no indication of what has happened. __ meco ( talk) 08:41, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
To http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene
I was attempting to fix a reference and got lost in a web of references and my brain isn't functioning in undo mode tonight.
Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Levalley ( talk • contribs) 06:22, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I opened this page López and it looks ok. But if I opened Lopez, which redirects to the same page, the PNG image is not scaled, it occupies all the screen. Tried in Firefox, IE, Chrome, it acts the same. Weird, now after 2 minutes, in Firefox looks ok, but not in IE and Chrome. Maybe depends on the way you link it? test Ark25 ( talk) 22:35, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
It's now possible to import revisions from Meta and the Nostalgia Wikipedia to this site]]. It would be nice if that functionality could be extended to other language Wikipedias, but this is a very good start! Graham 87 02:54, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
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I have asked about this at help desk & been supported via IRC but not solved the issue. Using Firefox (3.5.5) & when I am logged in the red location dot on Brompton Regis & other articles is outside the boundary of the county. I have checked the coords on streetmap & they are correct. This doesn't happen if I am not logged in or if logged in using IE8. On advice I have removed User:AndyZ/peerreviewer.js from my monobook & cleared cache without any change. Any advice appreciated.— Rod talk 15:40, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
In edit summaries we are limited to a certain number of characters from on high. We know what can fit because it's WYSIWYG; you can only type up to the number of characters that will show when you save (which can be increased by 50 characters in your preferences [in Gadgets → User interface gadgets: editing]). When moving pages, by contrast, you can apparently type an unlimited number of characters into the equivalent "Reason:" field which provides an edit summary when you perform the move. I sometimes go over the limit without realizing it and get a botched edit summaries, being cut off in midsentence à la here, which resolved on three more words. Of course, there's also no preview for a move, so you can't simply click a button to see if you've gone over the limit. Any possible fixes for this?-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 00:30, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
<input> only displays as one line of text. <textarea> displays as multiple lines, so you have more visual room to write lengthy reasons without having to scroll back and forth, but historically has not permitted maxlength. It permits maxlength in HTML5, so I've added it in r60054, but it doesn't work in all browsers (works in Chrome 4, so probably also in recent Safari; doesn't work in Firefox 3.5 or Opera 9.22; on Linux and don't have IE to test with). — Simetrical ( talk • contribs) 00:13, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
How can the title of I-Télé be changed to i>Télé? There must be a solution since it's i>Télé on the fr wiki: I've looked thru {{ wrongtitle}} and the like but there seems to be nothing. Chris DHDR 17:30, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
One user has hundreds of user pages that have become a very high ranking in the search engines. I know the NOINDEX tag can be attached to each page but as there are so many pages and the topic of the articles is a bit problematic. Is there a way to automatically block all his user pages from being indexed? IQinn ( talk) 12:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I have a question for an admin, or maybe just someone familiar with the history of how images worked on Wikipedia. Any idea why the image on File:Fr unapproachable east.jpg is unrestorable? Might be interesting to know if it's because the file is older than ones I've successfully restored. It was created on 8 December 2004 and deleted on 22 November 2005, if that helps. BOZ ( talk) 15:38, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
We are about to deploy automatic detection of script documentation pages. All .js and .css pages will automatically show a box with a link to their doc page, if a doc page exists. See MediaWiki talk:Clearyourcache#Script documentation, {{ script doc auto}} and Template talk:Script doc auto if you want to discuss this.
-- David Göthberg ( talk) 16:28, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I would like a preference that would cause all my incoming and outgoing email to be pseudo-anonymized and archived, visible to highly-privileged users, e.g. checkuser. What do I mean by this? It means if I send someone an email, it gets archived for posterity and the return address is somethingunique@editors.wikimedia.org or some such. Any reply would also be archived and, if it was a true reply and included magic words in the email headers, reverse-anonymized.
This would provide several benefits:
Is this worth adding to the code? If it were available, would you support including it as a user preference in the English Wikipedia? Would you enable the bit yourself? I would. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 02:59, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I want to be notified whenever an article I have edited is listed for deletion (either PRODded or listed on AFD). Is there some bot out there doing this, and if so, how can I opt in to its notifications? — Lowellian ( reply) 12:40, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm a web developer working on a Wikipedia-type website called Preceden. My goal with it is to be the Wikipedia of timelines. Down the road I'd like to have every major event in history represented on the site.
I'm at a point now where I need to make a lot of small but important decisions, and I'm looking for an experienced Wikipedia editor to serve as an adviser. For example, I'm trying to decide whether the page revisions should have an "undo" button or a "restore" button (some sites use one, some the other, and I'm not sure what works best) and I don't have enough experience to know what's best. Other things include methods for preventing vandalism, how to recognize the top contributors, etc.
If you're interested in helping shape Preceden's future, please shoot me an email: preceden@gmail.com
Thanks.
(PS -- I originally posted this in the policy section, but it was removed because it was not the appropriate place for it. I'm still not sure what the appropriate place is. The technical sections seems like a good place to find the type of adviser I'm looking for; if not, please advise where to go.) Preceden ( talk) 22:24, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
It used to pre-select the deletion reason for me based on the tag placed on the page. Any reason it's not doing it now? – xeno talk 15:17, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
My history button is missing from articles. Don't know where it slinked off too.
Heres a screenshot in-case nobody else is having this problem. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 17:35, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello, Please check out http://www.wikimindmap.org/ is a very good application, isn't it? for example: http://www.wikimindmap.org/viewmap.php?wiki=en.wikipedia.org&topic=Wikimedia_Foundation&Submit=Search If every wiki page add onebutton to generate the mindmap, is that cool?
so,,,,Why not add Wikimindmap support in wikimedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Litingjun ( talk • contribs) 16:31, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
It's kind of cool. Maybe we could spend more time working with people who do these kinds of awesome things and less time being an ass about what is, essentially, a nitpick. — Werdna • talk 12:58, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia has over 600 links to the legendary publishing periodical Editor & Publisher, which is now ceasing publication. I suspect that the website will soon be shuttered as well. We need a massive effort to 1) preemptively archive (via WP:WebCite?) many of these articles as possible and 2) repair already dead links (via WP:WAYBACK?). The list is here Please see Wikipedia talk:Linkrot to help coordinate. -- Blargh29 ( talk) 03:27, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
You should talk to the people who wrote WebCiteBot. They're more likely to be helpful rather than snarky. — Werdna • talk 13:00, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Is there any way that we could make template parameter names insensitive to capitalization (aside from manually adding them to every template)? Even if only the first letter were insensitive, that would seem to be a big improvement.
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Separated from the above discussion Mr. Z-man 17:38, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Umm, Mediawiki and the code base are basically the same thing. If volunteer development is not moving at a fast enough pace, one could always learn PHP, repair the problem, and submit a patch. Chillum (Need help? Ask me) 17:34, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
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22:11, 12 December 2009 (UTC)Just as an example, much of my recent development effort has gone into 1) HTML5 support, because I think it's essential to the long-term health of the web, and "Wikipedia has switched to HTML5" could have considerable political impact in the standards world; 2) external authentication, which does absolutely nothing for Wikipedia but is useful for my own wiki. You probably don't care about either of those things. But that's fine. I don't have to have the same priorities as Wikipedians do. Why should I? — Simetrical ( talk • contribs) 16:32, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Priyanka Dhanda joins Wikimedia tech team one step closer I guess. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 04:10, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, asking here as advised...
Anyone got any ideas about the problem described at Talk:Rùm#Map is broken? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.243.195 ( talk) 20:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
There are some scripts (such as Twinkle) which are restricted to certain users (usually autoconfirmed, sometimes on a certain list). But couldn't a user circumvent these restrictions simply by pasting the full source code of the script into their monobook, or whatever? Intelligent sium 00:47, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Discussion at the "Bowei Huang" section of Wikipedia talk:Reference desk makes me wonder: if a username is changed, what happens if you try to block the old username? I recently finished deleting a group of redirects to userspace for another user who had changed names recently and wanted the redirects to be deleted, and this question occurred to me then, although rather idly. FYI, I'm well aware of what happens if you forget this lesson, so I'll not test something for the sake of testing it. Nyttend ( talk) 06:06, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Another editor put it better than I can:
Odd, something is broken in the wiki. It looks like all edits between http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=The_Elephant_Man_%28film%29&oldid=9292943 (21:01, 11 January 2005) and http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=The_Elephant_Man_%28film%29&direction=next&oldid=12776317 (02:37, 25 April 2005) got fubared. They show up as blank versions, which isn't logical. They should either be there, be missing entirely and not in the edit history if they were deleted but not restored, or have strike-throughs if they've been rev-deleted or oversighted. Well, probably not worth fixing. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 22:49, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
From: [6] -- Drogonov 11:33, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
The WP 1.0 bot is used to track the assessment templates that are put on the talk pages of articles. These are used by over 1,500 WikkiProjects, with over 2.5 million articles tagged. A new version of the WP 1.0 bot is in initial beta testing.
I'm posting to this page because I'd like to find another person interested in working on the bot. Of course you can choose your own level of involvement. The bot itself runs on the Wikimedia toolserver, using Perl and mysql, but I am language agnostic. I would be happy to have a new developer at any experience level, and working with this bot would be a very nice way to learn database/web programming in the context of a real project. If you're interested, please contact me on my talk page. — Carl ( CBM · talk) 01:51, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
In the past week, I have received the following error message at least once or twice each day:
This wiki has a problem Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. (Cannot contact the database server: Unknown error (10.0.6.32))
Is anyone else experiencing the same problem? Thanks, – BLACK FALCON ( TALK) 21:53, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
This problem was reported on the #wikimedia-tech irc channel. The word from the site admins is that (1) they have logs of when it happens, (2) it is very intermittent, and (3) they are planning maintenance tomorrow to fix it (hopefully). If it becomes persistent or lasts more than another 36 hours, please report it again. Unfortunately there is nothing else that can be done at the moment. — Carl ( CBM · talk) 00:58, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
( ←) More occurrences - about 2 min ago from this sig. Same server as above. For this page [7]. 7 08:45, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Just had this happen again, 30 seconds ago:
This wiki has a problem
Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
(Cannot contact the database server: Unknown error (10.0.6.32))
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enwiki switched to different build at 11:09 UTC that should eliminate the issue. We have enough of logging to see when this happens ;-) Domas Mituzas ( talk) 13:51, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Is there an easy way to get a list of all articles that are listed in the List of mathematics articles that have been tagged with the essay or personal reflection template? Michael Hardy ( talk) 00:54, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, Svick and CBM.
Svick, you misunderstand something: very very few of Wikipedia's more-than-20,000 mathematics articles are in Category:Mathematics. That category has 55 subcategories, and at least one subcategory has more than 30 subcategories, and many of the subcategories have a dozen-or-so subcategories, so we're talking about hundreds of categories. But the list of mathematics articles, on the other hand, has it all. Michael Hardy ( talk) 05:33, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
....I'm getting a "SNAFU" message from "CatScan". Michael Hardy ( talk) 05:37, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Anyone else seeing it? Happened both when trying to CSD a page and when trying to welcome-coi the user. Locks up at "Tagging page: data loaded..." 7 01:45, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Help me in traduction Template:Info samba school of . Some technical aspects are incorrects. I'm use this template in all samba schools articles. Thanks. Quintinense ( talk) 14:23, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
valign="top" class="hiddenStructure"
, so I removed it. From what I know of the Romance languages, I presume "traduction" is Portuguese for "translation"? List at
WP:NOTENGLISH.
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23:01, 18 December 2009 (UTC)yes, rsrsrsrs. Translate by Joel Santana! Quintinense ( talk) 03:50, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
These two pages, ITunes Live: London Festival '09 (Snow Patrol EP) and ITunes Live: London Festival '09 - EP (Kid British album), should be moved such that the spelling is "iTunes" like with iTunes Live from London. I tried to move them but it says the page can't be moved to itself. How is such a change made? If somebody does it, please change the default sort tag to "Itunes" such that it get filed in a sensible manner. Jason Quinn ( talk) 20:33, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I think we should incorprate filters in What links here.
For example, in this page, we have a whole bunch of pages that are not article pages. Most of the are user pages, but some of them are user talk pages and wikipedia and wikipedia talk pages.
We can use the pull down menu for only User pages, or Wikipedia pages, but I think we should also have a system that that can filter out these 2 categories as an example; if say I want to see which articles need pronunciations converted to IPA, not only do I have to go through so many pages but some of them are even archives. 174.3.102.6 ( talk) 21:35, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
My watchlist token keeps setting itself after I blank it. Is this normal? Also, does anyone know who, besides developers and the like, can see watchlists and watchlist tokens without knowing the token? davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 22:51, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I filed this as bugzilla:21912. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 20:48, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating text from the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia
Why is this category hidden? 2,000 entries on this category, only linked to by three on-wiki pages, two for the template which adds it to an article and one link on Talk:Illness among Jews an article reviewed for deletion and merged with Medical genetics of Jewish people. ~ R. T. G 15:25, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Um, they do have "regular" citations. {{ JewishEncyclopedia}} adds the text "This article incorporates text from the 1901–1906 Jewish Encyclopedia article ..., a publication now in the public domain.", and the other PD source templates do the same. What is the problem? The category is just a maintenance cat for keeping track of these templates. OrangeDog ( τ • ε) 21:34, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
:A lot of the articles in those categories are prone to no inline citations, and besides, is there a category of major use of old PD documents? Really, can I see it? No? Why because you did some nice little artistry on your template? Well to hell with the referencers while we have this artistic template. Nobody wants to reference those things. That's not encyclopaediac. Showing those categories to people who might be interested would be just said-so dumb. Those categories are for spying on articles not enhancing the available information. What class of idiot would even want to look through a category like that? What do they think that respectable works of PD are prized and researchable? No way. I didn't understand you. You make note sense. That's oft topic any way. What you think this is a reference bible or something? ~
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At
WT:MOS we've just learned from
User:davidwr that −
, the HTML minus sign, does not sort properly in a sortable wikitable.
User:Eubulides made a suggestion to improve ts_parseFloat
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num = parseFloat(s.replace(/,/g, ""));
num = parseFloat(s.replace(/,/g, "").replace(/−/g,"-"));
This looks to me too like it would solve the problem. Note that the first dash in the new replace statement is a minus sign and the second is a hyphen; the sortable wikitable already properly handles hyphens. Can someone make this change? (Or is there something we're not considering?) Ozob ( talk) 04:24, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
−
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.replace(/−/gi, "-").replace(/&(?:minus|#x0*2212|#0*8722);/gi, "-")
ts_currencyToSortKey
doesn't handle minus signs properly, either. Right now, all it does is strip all characters other than digits, periods, and commas, then call ts_parseFloat
. It's not even compatible with hyphens used as minus signs; so you can't write a debt as $-100 or -$100 (and especially not as $−100 or −$100) and get it to sort properly; it'll get sorted as if it were 100.I hope this is the right location to suggest a new technical feature to be added to Wikipedia or maybe something that a bot could do. I'll be brief: it might be useful to put a note a user's Talk page if his or her text inside an article has "{{citation" right after it. It's logical to expect the user who added text to know where he or she read something that needs a citation. This won't always work, but if it's a single line of text that starts with a capital and such, Wikipedia should be able to give us information about who put it there. If there is a match, that user's Talk page could say: "A text (<text>) you added on <date> to the article <name> appears to need a citation. If possible, please try to help out." -- 82.171.70.54 ( talk) 14:02, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Whenever I post something on a discussion page, my post is signed by a bot--even though I always add my signature. How can I correct this problem? -- Lucas Brown 18:03, 20 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucas Brown 42 ( talk • contribs)
It's taking a LOOOOONNNNNGGGGG time to load history pages, and then, if I try to do a diff, it takes an ever longer time to display the diffs. This is happening on every history page I look at, this just started yesterday. I'm using Firefox, which I switched to a couple of years ago because this was occurring with IE, and was not happening on Firefox till yesterday. Woogee ( talk) 22:31, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
(cross-posted to foundation-l, wikitech-l, Village pump (proposals))
Hi all,
With the Foundation's support, I've spent the last few months churning away at Extension:LiquidThreads, a new discussion system that is proposed for use on Wikimedia projects.
Essentially, it's an attempt to marry the radical openness of the wiki paradigm with the usability and practicality of a forum-like system. As the name implies, LiquidThreads is designed to allow any user to easily refactor discussions while maintaining edit history, to edit other users' comments, and to collaborate on a summary of an ongoing discussion. LiquidThreads also brings many standard communication features lacking from wiki discussion pages, such as watching and protecting individual discussion threads, RSS feeds of comments in a discussion or on a discussion page. In the world of online communication, its approach is entirely unique.
LiquidThreads has been in alpha testing on Wikimedia Labs for several months, and, more recently, it's been used in a production context on the strategy wiki, where it has been quite well-received. It's been easy to run these smaller trials, as the extension allows the activation and deactivation of LiquidThreads discussions on individual pages with a simple parser function.
While there are still some issues remaining before wider trials, I believe I can resolve most of them quite quickly (within a few weeks when my vacation finishes at the end of next month), and I'd like to get the ball rolling in proposing small-scale trials on some of the larger wikis, so that a full discussion can be had, and so that adjustments can be made on the basis of ongoing feedback. I'd especially like to see LiquidThreads used on some of the higher-traffic discussion pages on English Wikipedia (such as the technical village pump), and progressive rollout on some of our mid to large sized wikis.
So, I'd like to encourage you to have a play with LiquidThreads, either on the strategy wiki or on the test site (which generally runs a newer version). Tell me what you like about it, and (far more importantly) what improvements you think it needs before we can expand our trials to wider parts of the Wikimedia Universe, and perhaps move towards a full rollout of this very exciting technology.
I should give the following caveats about LiquidThreads as it stands. These are all issues that I intend to address before any trial expansion occurs.
Feedback is best directed to the dedicated Feedback page, or, alternatively, to bugzilla (although before filing a bug, you should check the list of existing LiquidThreads bugs).
— Werdna • talk 20:57, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I certainly shudder when I read something like LiquidThreads is designed to allow any user to ... edit other users' comments. 99.166.95.142 ( talk) 16:44, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Where can I comment on this talk page template: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=File_talk:Qxz-ad15.gif&action=edit
Source code:
<div class="editnotice-area" style="clear: both;"><div class="editnotice-namespace"><table id="filetalk-namespace-editnotice" class="plainlinks fmbox fmbox-warning filetalk-namespace-editnotice" style=""> <tr> <td class="mbox-image">
Found it: Template:Editnotices/Namespace/File talk
Ikip 19:31, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if this is the proper place to post this query; I hope some Wiki-aware editor will Talk to me.
Crabs (Clade Meiura) comprise Brachyura (true crabs) and Anomura (hermit crabs, etc.) This much is not controversial; see e.g. Wikipedia, or even Merriam-Webster:
crab [OE crabba; OHG krebiz; OE ceorfan == to carve] 1 any of any of numerous chiefly marine broadly built decapod crustaceans: 1a = any of Brachyura 1b = any of a group (Anomura) resembling true crabs [e.g. king crab "any of several very large crabs ..."]
Wikipedia has pages for "Crab" and "Anomura"; no pages for "Meiura" or "true crab"; "Brachyura" redirects to "Crab". This can be confusing (proofs: Casual glance at the page convinces one king crab is in Brachyura; I was confused, however briefly.) There is a page "Crab(disambiguation)" but it does not address the confusion at all.
There certainly should be one "main" page for "Crab"; the present page may be well-written; I don't know to what extent its remarks apply only to Brachyura or to Anomura as well; perhaps this should be addressed in the main article.
Perhaps a "True crab" page should be created with "Brachyura" redirected to that. I don't know; just know the present setup is more than slightly flawed. Jamesdowallen ( talk) 16:02, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
I just noticed that image caption text is smaller than article body text. Is this new, or am I imagining? Also, why is it smaller? -- Apoc2400 ( talk) 19:37, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
I would like to see Special:Notepad be a private scratch-pad, possibly visible to privileged users, intended for people to keep working notes that aren't meant for the public eye. It's easier for me to keep my wiki-related notes on Wikipedia than on, say, a Google application or a local document, but I don't always want the public access that an on-wiki page has.
I'm not picky if this is a Special: page, a part of Preferences, or a user:-space page that is not readable to unprivilaged users. I'm soliciting feedback on the general concept of "private" space within Wikipedia.
Before I open a bug/feature request, I wanted some feedback. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 21:26, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
For example, a recent post of mine was "::::This seems to be pretty OK (like the one similar to this). Although the "He served 1939–1941" example needs to be thrown out and something saner picked instead. It seems essentially to be status quo + allowing for "Seifert–von Kampen". Which is much better than the status quo. ~~~~", which I copy-paste in the edit summary since the beginning of a post is a very quick way to summarize the post. However, this is longer than that 255 character limit (or whatever it is), changing the edit summary box in red as a warning (fine), and preventing me to make my post until I fixed the length (horrible!).
PLEASE revert to the old behaviour of simply truncating the summary (the warning is fine and should probably stay). Headbomb { ταλκ κοντριβς – WP Physics} 16:45, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Please look at User talk:Vossanova. Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:23, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:29, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
I find my iPhone handy for checking my watchlist when I have a few minutes to spare from other tasks. The problem I'm having is that there are so many links on the watchlist page that it is hard to scroll the touch-sensitive screen without occasionally hitting a link inadvertently. For the most part, that's a minor nuisance--I just cancel the page that's being loaded. But if I accidently hit a rollback link, there is no way to stop the resulting action. I've done this a few times now. I can rollback myself when I notice, but my fear is accidentally rolling back an edit without noticing. Ideally, I'd like a user option of having rollback ask for confirmation, or at least a way to turn rollback off and on. As more touch sensitive devices come on the market, I suspect others will encounter the same problem. I realize having rollback is considered a great privilege by some and I don't want to sound ungrateful, but all in all I'd rather be able to use my iPhone to edit than have rollback.-- agr ( talk) 21:38, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
importStylesheet('User:' + wgUserName + '/vector-ipod.css');
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that CSS page, along with a few other tweaks—that admittedly I haven't polished much—like making the tabs bigger and removing the sidebar completely (unlike the toggle-able option for normal browsers). Is that a useful approach for anyone? {{
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