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I was working on an article, Downtown One (which is not a redirect), when I realized that the article preview links to a completely different article, which is List of tallest buildings in Albania. A redirect from the former to the latter did exist at one point in time, but was deleted in 2023. The bug should be visible to others, if it's not just let me know, I can post an image up. This is a relatively serious bug aswell, because it basically removes the ability to visit that page, effectively eliminating the purpose of Wikipedia. I've never seen this before, so I thought I'd let yall know. (Also I attempted to report it over at Phabricator, but for some reason the ver. email link never sent). At least one person over at WP:TEAHOUSE is completely clueless as to why that happens, and honestly so am I. Thanks :) Sir MemeGod ._. ( talk - contribs - created articles) 03:32, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
On each level of the WP:Vital articles pages, the random article buttons somehow stopped working. I tried this on my laptop and phone, and it doesn't work. What happens is when I press the button, I get an error that says the tool is down. I was wondering what caused this and how I can fix it so that it works again. Interstellarity ( talk) 13:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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When you use the same reference more than once, the individual instances get assigned tags a, b, c, etc. Once you get past 26, it wraps around to aa, ab, ac and so on up to az, then picks up with ba, bb, and so on. As part of a tool I'm writing, I need to be able to generate these. My first thought was "its just base 26 using "a" through "z" to represent 0 through 25 in each column". But its not (he says after beating his head against the wall writing some python code to do base 26 conversion). If it were, then after "z" would come "ba" for "1 in the 26's column plus 0 in the 1's column". So what is this sequence? Is there some standard name for it? RoySmith (talk) 15:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
def bijectiveHexavigesimal(n):
outStr = ''
while n != 0:
outStr = chr((n - 1) % 26 + 97) + outStr
n = (n - 1) / 26
return outStr
It is eaten fresh, smoked, dried, and salted and its skin made into leatheris cited to reference 6-k. I can dig out of the generated HTML
<sup id="cite_ref-FAO_6-10">
but I don't want to show that gibberish to the user.I recently left a standard WP:ARBPIA alert on User talk:EliasAntonakos. Apparently I didn't get it right (I'm a bit rusty at the moment; I am mostly on wiki-break), as no messages after that shows up on their page. (see talk-history for futher messages) What did I get wrong? Huldra ( talk) 21:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
{{subst:alert/first|a-i}}
per
Template:Contentious topics/alert/first#Usage, but that should automatically include the closing -->
with no way to delete it in the same post. Did you instead try to copy-paste the message from another page?
PrimeHunter (
talk)
21:27, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Hey, this is a continuation of the topic " Dark mode for logged-out users coming soon", specifically about desktop (the Vector 2022 skin).
In that previous message, we announced that dark mode on desktop would be rolled out in one step, for both logged-in and logged-out users, in the week of July 15 (that is, next week). However, we'd be more comfortable to enable it for logged-in users first. Articles here on English Wikipedia look very good in dark mode, and again, thanks to everyone who is contributing to it!
We are going to enable dark mode on desktop just for logged-in users this week. If everything goes well (it has been going very well so far!) we will enable it on desktop for logged-out users next week as we previously announced. It's gonna be exciting :D Thanks! SGrabarczuk (WMF) ( talk) 01:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
In legacy Vector are you seeing the dark mode gadget toggle in the top right?
If you enable Vector 2022, do you see the message "You're using a dark mode gadget".
Thanks for giving Wikipedia a dark mode option! The settings page says Experimental version, high likelihood of experiencing issues--am i being helpful if i say i think i've found one?
Do we have (or should we have) a central thread where all of the discussions about the launch of dark mode should be in one place?
i've visited maybe a half dozen pages where dark mode seems to work, but the Willys 77 page still won't turn to the dark side, even after i:
Additionally,
Wikipedia:Help desk is mostly dark. i'm not sure if it's the same issue mentioned
here, but this part:
Welcome...
(Am I in the right place?)...
For other types of questions...
Do not provide your email...
New editors may prefer the Teahouse...
[Ask a question]
show/hide Wikipedia help pages
this part stays white.
Wishing everyone safe, happy, productive editing.
-- 173.67.42.107 ( talk) 22:23, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
The default foreground color for text is way too bright/white and more than a few page elements on certain pages are as bright as light mode. Overall, it does not seem like an improvement on the old beta dark mode. I'd simply disable it and stick with the old beta dark mode for now, but if I do that, there's a white flash at the start of every page load and page refresh, which defeats the purpose of using a dark mode.
Here's several screenshots to show before vs. after.
Also, is there documentation somewhere describing the changes to the CSS? .client-dark-mode
stopped working. Thanks.
Daniel Quinlan (
talk)
07:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
i tried to make this clear, then i accidentally erased part of it and had to rewrite it. i hope it's (still) clear (again).
In dark mode, some sections of the Wikipedia:Manual of Style have dark text that's nearly invisible on the dark background. i can just barely read it when i zoom in, but i can read it, so it's not exactly the same color... but it's much too easy not to see it at all if you don't know to look for it. It's darker than gray or dark grey text, but the blackground is slightly darker (and apparently black black text is even darker than that). Some of the red and green text can be hard to read on the dark background, too; they might actually use dark red and dark green instead of red and green. These non-default colors seem to be products of templates; i am not very "fluent" in the use of templates. (For instance, in the examples transcribed below, are "Correct" and "Incorrect" two different templates, one green and one red? Are "Correct", "Accepted", "Acceptable", "Better", and "Clear" all versions of the same green template?)
Examples:
Correct: | Oranges are an... |
Incorrect: | Oranges are a... |
Accepted: | "Life is short, art is long." (two brief clauses in an aphorism; see Ars longa, vita brevis) |
Accepted: | "I have studied it, you have not." (reporting brisk conversation, such as this reply of Newton's) |
Unwieldy: | Oranges are an... |
Better: | Oranges are a... |
Confusing: | Sales offices are located... |
Clear: | Sales offices are... |
It was obvious... | |
Meaning: | It was obvious... |
Incorrect: | Her album reached #1 in... |
Correct: | Her album reached number one... |
Correct: | Her album reached No. 1 in... |
Correct: | Her albums Foo and Bar reached Nos. 1 and 3. |
Correct: | Her albums Foo and Bar reached numbers one and three... |
{{abbr|Vol.|Volume}}
, {{abbr|Iss.|Issue}}
, {{abbr|No.|Number}}
, or {{abbr|Nos.|Numbers}}
, at first occurrence.Incorrect: | Slovak returned to the Red Hot Chili Peppers in 1985 after growing tired of What Is This?. |
Acceptable: | Slovak returned to the Red Hot Chili Peppers in 1985 after growing tired of What Is This? |
Better: | Slovak, having grown tired of What Is This?, returned to the Red Hot Chili Peppers in 1985. |
Incorrect: | He made several films with Sammy Davis Jr.. |
Correct: | He made several films with Sammy Davis Jr. |
aside: Would He and Sammy Davis Jr. made several films together. be better?
Honorable mention also for viewing a Difference between revisions, where the revised portion of the article appears in light text on a dark background, but the editor's name/IP address appear with select stats as dark text (well, blue links, mostly) on a light background. For example, the diff for the most recent edit to this page shows mostly in dark mode, but shows
on a light background... and i didn't realize until i did that copy-paste that EDITS is there in text almost as light as the background.
Thanks to the people working on this.
aside: For my own amusement and future reference, i have been using my talk page ( Learn more about this page) to test what names of colors work with this Wikipedia code (and which do not). Maybe that could help someone see which colors work best for light mode, dark mode, or both?
-- 173.67.42.107 ( talk) 19:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
{{abbr|Vol.|Volume}}
, {{abbr|Iss.|Issue}}
, {{abbr|No.|Number}}
, or {{abbr|Nos.|Numbers}}
, at first occurrence.Seems many cells in episode tables ( Template:Episode_table) have this problem, as seen on these pages:
i'm still figuring out how Wikipedia tables work and Web colors#Hex triplets go right over my head, but i think Template:Episode_table lets you override some default colors, which still leaves the problem of picking colors that suit both light mode and dark mode, or altering the template so it switches colors when the user toggles between light mode and dark mode. -- 173.67.42.107 ( talk) 09:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
The font size in footnote popups seems to have suddenly changed to dramatically larger font size than previously, and now appears to be significantly larger than body copy in my skin (old-school MonoBook + some personal CSS modifications).
Because the width of footnote popup boxes hasn't changed, much less text now fits on each line, which combined with the bloated font size makes the footnotes now take up like 1.5 or 2x more space than previously. I find the new popups both less legible per se, and also much more disruptive because they cover more of the content below. Footnotes which try to include more detailed material end up fitting worse inside the available popup space.
Was this change discussed anywhere? In my opinion it should be reverted. There is no good reason for footnote popups to ever have a larger font size than body copy. Ideally they would have a slightly smaller font size, but the same size is also okay. (I can't even remember precisely what they were like before.)
– jacobolus (t) 05:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
#mw-teleport-target
as the wrapper for the tooltip.
Jack who built the house (
talk)
07:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)I found a couple of pages where the page previews isn't working properly: E. O. Wilson and Fiji. I'm guessing that there is some wikitext element (bracket etc) that isn't closed properly, but can't see anything. — Jts1882 | talk 09:19, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
<!-- Work in Progress Lede -->
in January 2023 and made Popups only display }}
. Popups tries to identify and display text from the first paragraph excluding an infobox and various stuff at the top of pages. If something makes Popups think it has reached the first "real" paragraph then it displays that, sometimes producing an empty display because Popups ignores templates. I don't know why this displayed }}
instead of empty when the brackets were correctly balanced. Anyway, I removed the obsolete comment
[4] and Popups works well now.
Fiji has a long infobox code.
Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups#Options says: "popupMaxPreviewCharacters | 600, an integer | The maximum number of characters to extract from something approximating the beginning of an article for the preview." The
Fiji popup only displays "Fiji ( , ; " with the default 600. That's not an error but just an unfortunate result of skipping templates and cutting off before the closing parentheses and following normal text is reached. It works well with window.popupMaxPreviewCharacters = 6000;
in
your common JavaScript. It still only gives "Fiji ( , ; " with 5000 so the default 600 is far from reaching a good result here.
PrimeHunter (
talk)
10:59, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
I have a question concerning the custom formatting options of TemplateData, specifically for {{ Episode table}}.
I noticed that when editors edit this particular template in Visual Editor, VE would remove all the spacing between the parameters. To fix this, I added custom formatting of the paramaters into the TemplateData to keep the spacing. It worked! However, with this fix, the new issue is now the removal of just the spacing after the last parameter, which I then need to restore manually.
In these examples linked, every other parameter declaration and value for {{
Episode table}} can be displayed inline; however, |episodes=
spans multiple lines, and its value should begin on the line after the parameter declaration.
My question is: how can I add spacing to the custom formatting for just the last parameter, to prevent this sort of removal? -- Alex_21 TALK 10:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Can someone with the knowledge apply Template:Resolve category redirect to the whole of Template:Country establishment category by century. Currently the latter is causing Category:Medieval Belgium to be populated instead of Category:Medieval history of Belgium. Thanks in advance. Timrollpickering ( talk) 10:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Please create the following redirect:
I was going to do it myself, but this redirect page is fully protected. Thanks, Maiō T. ( talk) 14:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
The latest run of Special:WantedCategories features a redlinked ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Philippine articles requiring maintenance, populated by the single page Liloan — and while the redlink obviously has to either get created or go away, that's not the only reason I'm bringing it to VPT: the page itself is absolutely buried in blaring red template-error messages, like tables smothered in "Formatting error: invalid input when rounding" and an Economy section that consists entirely of the text "Lua error in Module:Chart at line 301: bad argument #1 to 'max' (number expected, got string)." with no actual economic data, and even an external link that's been drowned in multiple instances of "String Module error: String subset index out of range".
The page was moved within the past 48 hours from the former title Liloan, Cebu, so this may stem from a mismatch between its new title and the title the templates are expecting, but I wouldn't know how to fix that. So could somebody with more skill in that area than I've got look into this page and figure out what's causing the errors? Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 14:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Weird - I just installed Chrome on a new computer, and it is ignoring all my preferences - scripts, etc. No scripts show up (Twinkle, etc.), heck, it even does not allow me to enable visual editor. Heck, even clicking 'add topic' in Chrome on this very page here doesn't work. Microsoft Edge which I used on that computer for few days works fine (all tools/etc. show up and work), and obviously I can post here. Seems like some Chrome issue (not Wiki preferences issue) - any idea what settings to play with? No, clearing cache etc. doesn't work. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Appears to have been a problem in 2020. wp:Village pump (technical)/Archive 186#List of companies. Search criteria:
Suggestions? Thank you Adakiko ( talk) 19:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia policies and guidelines
in the categories field;search
field and enwiki in the field to the right of the search (and clicked "from categories" in Use wiki
);incategory:
and a category name in quotation marks in the search box. It doesn't search subcategories and gives no hits for
Category:Wikipedia policies and guidelines
[5] but three hits for
Category:Wikipedia policies
[6].
PrimeHunter (
talk)
22:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Thanks for all your help and advice. I would think that searching for a policy page on Wikipedia should be easier. I often remember the gist of some policy, but can not easily find the policy. I'll stick with wp:List of policies and guidelines, wp:List of policies, wp:List of guidelines, wp:Manual of Style/Contents, Wikipedia:Simplified ruleset. I'll add them to my user page. Adakiko ( talk) 23:11, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
When I have the CharInsert gadget enabled on the English Wikipedia (which is on by default), the buttons for individual characters are still white when I also have dark mode enabled (which it is for me because of my operating system settings). First reported on mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading, but Jon (WMF) said to report it to the "gadget author". The user preference links here for troubleshooting, so here I am. -- Beland ( talk) 06:44, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Editing with Windows 11 and Firefox, if I right click the "About Wikipedia" in this page's navigation panel, then select "copy link" I get /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:About
in my clipboard.
It would be useful to have an option to "copy link in Wiki format", and get Wikipedia:About
instead.
Ideally it would substitute spaces for underscores where apllicable. It would be good if it could also handle section links.
Does anyone know of a tool (Firefox extension?) or script that will do this? Or does anyone have the skills and time to make one? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 07:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
While looking for articles related to the Euros, about 09:27 GMT, I got this error:
MediaWiki internal error.
Original exception: [ebc9f8bd-c439-4ead- b15d-875110252bc0] 2024-07-12 08:27:16:
Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBUnexpectedError"
Exception caught inside exception handler.
Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information.
It was brief and appears to be working now, but what happened? Fantastic Mr. Fox ( talk) 08:33, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
DannyS712 bot, a bot which is supposed to look after various daily or weekly maintenance tasks, hasn't made any edits since July 1, including failing to update Wikipedia:Database reports/Polluted categories (2) in eleven days despite that being a thing that's supposed to happen weekly, but the bot's maintainer says on their own userpage that they're not around much lately, and they haven't made any Wikipedia edits at all since July 3, so there's no way to know when they'll be back in order to look into it if I approach them personally (especially in July, when any editor could very well be on vacation for a couple of weeks). So could somebody take a quick gander into whether there's a problem with the bot, and maybe jumpstart it again if there is? Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 15:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
I made a new list article ( Scientology properties) and now am getting "notifications" with a message like "A link was made from Dianazene to Scientology properties." Here are screenshots of 3 I received. What are these? I cannot find any wikilinks within the source of these articles pointing to my new article, and none of these 3 articles should wikilink to this article. How is this happening? What does it mean? How do I research these... and remove such links? Or are they related to Template:Scientology and some bot just hasn't gotten around to telling me the other hundred articles which are now linked together? But what kind of "link" is this? ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 23:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
[[Scientology properties]]
whether they are in the source or made by a template like {{
Scientology}} and {{
Scientology properties}}. The three examples in your screenshot transclude {{
Scientology}} and were recently edited.
[8]
[9]
[10] I don't know whether such notifications will always be delayed until the next edit. You can mute further notifications with a click in the notification or by using the box at the bottom of
Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo. You cannot say that you only want notifictions of source links and not transcluded links from templates.
User:PrimeHunter/Source links.js gives a way to search for source links to a page. It doesn't currently find any in articles.
[11]
PrimeHunter (
talk)
00:32, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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I was working on an article, Downtown One (which is not a redirect), when I realized that the article preview links to a completely different article, which is List of tallest buildings in Albania. A redirect from the former to the latter did exist at one point in time, but was deleted in 2023. The bug should be visible to others, if it's not just let me know, I can post an image up. This is a relatively serious bug aswell, because it basically removes the ability to visit that page, effectively eliminating the purpose of Wikipedia. I've never seen this before, so I thought I'd let yall know. (Also I attempted to report it over at Phabricator, but for some reason the ver. email link never sent). At least one person over at WP:TEAHOUSE is completely clueless as to why that happens, and honestly so am I. Thanks :) Sir MemeGod ._. ( talk - contribs - created articles) 03:32, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
On each level of the WP:Vital articles pages, the random article buttons somehow stopped working. I tried this on my laptop and phone, and it doesn't work. What happens is when I press the button, I get an error that says the tool is down. I was wondering what caused this and how I can fix it so that it works again. Interstellarity ( talk) 13:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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MediaWiki message delivery 21:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
When you use the same reference more than once, the individual instances get assigned tags a, b, c, etc. Once you get past 26, it wraps around to aa, ab, ac and so on up to az, then picks up with ba, bb, and so on. As part of a tool I'm writing, I need to be able to generate these. My first thought was "its just base 26 using "a" through "z" to represent 0 through 25 in each column". But its not (he says after beating his head against the wall writing some python code to do base 26 conversion). If it were, then after "z" would come "ba" for "1 in the 26's column plus 0 in the 1's column". So what is this sequence? Is there some standard name for it? RoySmith (talk) 15:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
def bijectiveHexavigesimal(n):
outStr = ''
while n != 0:
outStr = chr((n - 1) % 26 + 97) + outStr
n = (n - 1) / 26
return outStr
It is eaten fresh, smoked, dried, and salted and its skin made into leatheris cited to reference 6-k. I can dig out of the generated HTML
<sup id="cite_ref-FAO_6-10">
but I don't want to show that gibberish to the user.I recently left a standard WP:ARBPIA alert on User talk:EliasAntonakos. Apparently I didn't get it right (I'm a bit rusty at the moment; I am mostly on wiki-break), as no messages after that shows up on their page. (see talk-history for futher messages) What did I get wrong? Huldra ( talk) 21:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
{{subst:alert/first|a-i}}
per
Template:Contentious topics/alert/first#Usage, but that should automatically include the closing -->
with no way to delete it in the same post. Did you instead try to copy-paste the message from another page?
PrimeHunter (
talk)
21:27, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Hey, this is a continuation of the topic " Dark mode for logged-out users coming soon", specifically about desktop (the Vector 2022 skin).
In that previous message, we announced that dark mode on desktop would be rolled out in one step, for both logged-in and logged-out users, in the week of July 15 (that is, next week). However, we'd be more comfortable to enable it for logged-in users first. Articles here on English Wikipedia look very good in dark mode, and again, thanks to everyone who is contributing to it!
We are going to enable dark mode on desktop just for logged-in users this week. If everything goes well (it has been going very well so far!) we will enable it on desktop for logged-out users next week as we previously announced. It's gonna be exciting :D Thanks! SGrabarczuk (WMF) ( talk) 01:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
In legacy Vector are you seeing the dark mode gadget toggle in the top right?
If you enable Vector 2022, do you see the message "You're using a dark mode gadget".
Thanks for giving Wikipedia a dark mode option! The settings page says Experimental version, high likelihood of experiencing issues--am i being helpful if i say i think i've found one?
Do we have (or should we have) a central thread where all of the discussions about the launch of dark mode should be in one place?
i've visited maybe a half dozen pages where dark mode seems to work, but the Willys 77 page still won't turn to the dark side, even after i:
Additionally,
Wikipedia:Help desk is mostly dark. i'm not sure if it's the same issue mentioned
here, but this part:
Welcome...
(Am I in the right place?)...
For other types of questions...
Do not provide your email...
New editors may prefer the Teahouse...
[Ask a question]
show/hide Wikipedia help pages
this part stays white.
Wishing everyone safe, happy, productive editing.
-- 173.67.42.107 ( talk) 22:23, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
The default foreground color for text is way too bright/white and more than a few page elements on certain pages are as bright as light mode. Overall, it does not seem like an improvement on the old beta dark mode. I'd simply disable it and stick with the old beta dark mode for now, but if I do that, there's a white flash at the start of every page load and page refresh, which defeats the purpose of using a dark mode.
Here's several screenshots to show before vs. after.
Also, is there documentation somewhere describing the changes to the CSS? .client-dark-mode
stopped working. Thanks.
Daniel Quinlan (
talk)
07:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
i tried to make this clear, then i accidentally erased part of it and had to rewrite it. i hope it's (still) clear (again).
In dark mode, some sections of the Wikipedia:Manual of Style have dark text that's nearly invisible on the dark background. i can just barely read it when i zoom in, but i can read it, so it's not exactly the same color... but it's much too easy not to see it at all if you don't know to look for it. It's darker than gray or dark grey text, but the blackground is slightly darker (and apparently black black text is even darker than that). Some of the red and green text can be hard to read on the dark background, too; they might actually use dark red and dark green instead of red and green. These non-default colors seem to be products of templates; i am not very "fluent" in the use of templates. (For instance, in the examples transcribed below, are "Correct" and "Incorrect" two different templates, one green and one red? Are "Correct", "Accepted", "Acceptable", "Better", and "Clear" all versions of the same green template?)
Examples:
Correct: | Oranges are an... |
Incorrect: | Oranges are a... |
Accepted: | "Life is short, art is long." (two brief clauses in an aphorism; see Ars longa, vita brevis) |
Accepted: | "I have studied it, you have not." (reporting brisk conversation, such as this reply of Newton's) |
Unwieldy: | Oranges are an... |
Better: | Oranges are a... |
Confusing: | Sales offices are located... |
Clear: | Sales offices are... |
It was obvious... | |
Meaning: | It was obvious... |
Incorrect: | Her album reached #1 in... |
Correct: | Her album reached number one... |
Correct: | Her album reached No. 1 in... |
Correct: | Her albums Foo and Bar reached Nos. 1 and 3. |
Correct: | Her albums Foo and Bar reached numbers one and three... |
{{abbr|Vol.|Volume}}
, {{abbr|Iss.|Issue}}
, {{abbr|No.|Number}}
, or {{abbr|Nos.|Numbers}}
, at first occurrence.Incorrect: | Slovak returned to the Red Hot Chili Peppers in 1985 after growing tired of What Is This?. |
Acceptable: | Slovak returned to the Red Hot Chili Peppers in 1985 after growing tired of What Is This? |
Better: | Slovak, having grown tired of What Is This?, returned to the Red Hot Chili Peppers in 1985. |
Incorrect: | He made several films with Sammy Davis Jr.. |
Correct: | He made several films with Sammy Davis Jr. |
aside: Would He and Sammy Davis Jr. made several films together. be better?
Honorable mention also for viewing a Difference between revisions, where the revised portion of the article appears in light text on a dark background, but the editor's name/IP address appear with select stats as dark text (well, blue links, mostly) on a light background. For example, the diff for the most recent edit to this page shows mostly in dark mode, but shows
on a light background... and i didn't realize until i did that copy-paste that EDITS is there in text almost as light as the background.
Thanks to the people working on this.
aside: For my own amusement and future reference, i have been using my talk page ( Learn more about this page) to test what names of colors work with this Wikipedia code (and which do not). Maybe that could help someone see which colors work best for light mode, dark mode, or both?
-- 173.67.42.107 ( talk) 19:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
{{abbr|Vol.|Volume}}
, {{abbr|Iss.|Issue}}
, {{abbr|No.|Number}}
, or {{abbr|Nos.|Numbers}}
, at first occurrence.Seems many cells in episode tables ( Template:Episode_table) have this problem, as seen on these pages:
i'm still figuring out how Wikipedia tables work and Web colors#Hex triplets go right over my head, but i think Template:Episode_table lets you override some default colors, which still leaves the problem of picking colors that suit both light mode and dark mode, or altering the template so it switches colors when the user toggles between light mode and dark mode. -- 173.67.42.107 ( talk) 09:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
The font size in footnote popups seems to have suddenly changed to dramatically larger font size than previously, and now appears to be significantly larger than body copy in my skin (old-school MonoBook + some personal CSS modifications).
Because the width of footnote popup boxes hasn't changed, much less text now fits on each line, which combined with the bloated font size makes the footnotes now take up like 1.5 or 2x more space than previously. I find the new popups both less legible per se, and also much more disruptive because they cover more of the content below. Footnotes which try to include more detailed material end up fitting worse inside the available popup space.
Was this change discussed anywhere? In my opinion it should be reverted. There is no good reason for footnote popups to ever have a larger font size than body copy. Ideally they would have a slightly smaller font size, but the same size is also okay. (I can't even remember precisely what they were like before.)
– jacobolus (t) 05:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
#mw-teleport-target
as the wrapper for the tooltip.
Jack who built the house (
talk)
07:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)I found a couple of pages where the page previews isn't working properly: E. O. Wilson and Fiji. I'm guessing that there is some wikitext element (bracket etc) that isn't closed properly, but can't see anything. — Jts1882 | talk 09:19, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
<!-- Work in Progress Lede -->
in January 2023 and made Popups only display }}
. Popups tries to identify and display text from the first paragraph excluding an infobox and various stuff at the top of pages. If something makes Popups think it has reached the first "real" paragraph then it displays that, sometimes producing an empty display because Popups ignores templates. I don't know why this displayed }}
instead of empty when the brackets were correctly balanced. Anyway, I removed the obsolete comment
[4] and Popups works well now.
Fiji has a long infobox code.
Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups#Options says: "popupMaxPreviewCharacters | 600, an integer | The maximum number of characters to extract from something approximating the beginning of an article for the preview." The
Fiji popup only displays "Fiji ( , ; " with the default 600. That's not an error but just an unfortunate result of skipping templates and cutting off before the closing parentheses and following normal text is reached. It works well with window.popupMaxPreviewCharacters = 6000;
in
your common JavaScript. It still only gives "Fiji ( , ; " with 5000 so the default 600 is far from reaching a good result here.
PrimeHunter (
talk)
10:59, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
I have a question concerning the custom formatting options of TemplateData, specifically for {{ Episode table}}.
I noticed that when editors edit this particular template in Visual Editor, VE would remove all the spacing between the parameters. To fix this, I added custom formatting of the paramaters into the TemplateData to keep the spacing. It worked! However, with this fix, the new issue is now the removal of just the spacing after the last parameter, which I then need to restore manually.
In these examples linked, every other parameter declaration and value for {{
Episode table}} can be displayed inline; however, |episodes=
spans multiple lines, and its value should begin on the line after the parameter declaration.
My question is: how can I add spacing to the custom formatting for just the last parameter, to prevent this sort of removal? -- Alex_21 TALK 10:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Can someone with the knowledge apply Template:Resolve category redirect to the whole of Template:Country establishment category by century. Currently the latter is causing Category:Medieval Belgium to be populated instead of Category:Medieval history of Belgium. Thanks in advance. Timrollpickering ( talk) 10:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Please create the following redirect:
I was going to do it myself, but this redirect page is fully protected. Thanks, Maiō T. ( talk) 14:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
The latest run of Special:WantedCategories features a redlinked ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Philippine articles requiring maintenance, populated by the single page Liloan — and while the redlink obviously has to either get created or go away, that's not the only reason I'm bringing it to VPT: the page itself is absolutely buried in blaring red template-error messages, like tables smothered in "Formatting error: invalid input when rounding" and an Economy section that consists entirely of the text "Lua error in Module:Chart at line 301: bad argument #1 to 'max' (number expected, got string)." with no actual economic data, and even an external link that's been drowned in multiple instances of "String Module error: String subset index out of range".
The page was moved within the past 48 hours from the former title Liloan, Cebu, so this may stem from a mismatch between its new title and the title the templates are expecting, but I wouldn't know how to fix that. So could somebody with more skill in that area than I've got look into this page and figure out what's causing the errors? Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 14:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Weird - I just installed Chrome on a new computer, and it is ignoring all my preferences - scripts, etc. No scripts show up (Twinkle, etc.), heck, it even does not allow me to enable visual editor. Heck, even clicking 'add topic' in Chrome on this very page here doesn't work. Microsoft Edge which I used on that computer for few days works fine (all tools/etc. show up and work), and obviously I can post here. Seems like some Chrome issue (not Wiki preferences issue) - any idea what settings to play with? No, clearing cache etc. doesn't work. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Appears to have been a problem in 2020. wp:Village pump (technical)/Archive 186#List of companies. Search criteria:
Suggestions? Thank you Adakiko ( talk) 19:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia policies and guidelines
in the categories field;search
field and enwiki in the field to the right of the search (and clicked "from categories" in Use wiki
);incategory:
and a category name in quotation marks in the search box. It doesn't search subcategories and gives no hits for
Category:Wikipedia policies and guidelines
[5] but three hits for
Category:Wikipedia policies
[6].
PrimeHunter (
talk)
22:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Thanks for all your help and advice. I would think that searching for a policy page on Wikipedia should be easier. I often remember the gist of some policy, but can not easily find the policy. I'll stick with wp:List of policies and guidelines, wp:List of policies, wp:List of guidelines, wp:Manual of Style/Contents, Wikipedia:Simplified ruleset. I'll add them to my user page. Adakiko ( talk) 23:11, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
When I have the CharInsert gadget enabled on the English Wikipedia (which is on by default), the buttons for individual characters are still white when I also have dark mode enabled (which it is for me because of my operating system settings). First reported on mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading, but Jon (WMF) said to report it to the "gadget author". The user preference links here for troubleshooting, so here I am. -- Beland ( talk) 06:44, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Editing with Windows 11 and Firefox, if I right click the "About Wikipedia" in this page's navigation panel, then select "copy link" I get /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:About
in my clipboard.
It would be useful to have an option to "copy link in Wiki format", and get Wikipedia:About
instead.
Ideally it would substitute spaces for underscores where apllicable. It would be good if it could also handle section links.
Does anyone know of a tool (Firefox extension?) or script that will do this? Or does anyone have the skills and time to make one? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 07:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
While looking for articles related to the Euros, about 09:27 GMT, I got this error:
MediaWiki internal error.
Original exception: [ebc9f8bd-c439-4ead- b15d-875110252bc0] 2024-07-12 08:27:16:
Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBUnexpectedError"
Exception caught inside exception handler.
Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information.
It was brief and appears to be working now, but what happened? Fantastic Mr. Fox ( talk) 08:33, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
DannyS712 bot, a bot which is supposed to look after various daily or weekly maintenance tasks, hasn't made any edits since July 1, including failing to update Wikipedia:Database reports/Polluted categories (2) in eleven days despite that being a thing that's supposed to happen weekly, but the bot's maintainer says on their own userpage that they're not around much lately, and they haven't made any Wikipedia edits at all since July 3, so there's no way to know when they'll be back in order to look into it if I approach them personally (especially in July, when any editor could very well be on vacation for a couple of weeks). So could somebody take a quick gander into whether there's a problem with the bot, and maybe jumpstart it again if there is? Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 15:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
I made a new list article ( Scientology properties) and now am getting "notifications" with a message like "A link was made from Dianazene to Scientology properties." Here are screenshots of 3 I received. What are these? I cannot find any wikilinks within the source of these articles pointing to my new article, and none of these 3 articles should wikilink to this article. How is this happening? What does it mean? How do I research these... and remove such links? Or are they related to Template:Scientology and some bot just hasn't gotten around to telling me the other hundred articles which are now linked together? But what kind of "link" is this? ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 23:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
[[Scientology properties]]
whether they are in the source or made by a template like {{
Scientology}} and {{
Scientology properties}}. The three examples in your screenshot transclude {{
Scientology}} and were recently edited.
[8]
[9]
[10] I don't know whether such notifications will always be delayed until the next edit. You can mute further notifications with a click in the notification or by using the box at the bottom of
Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo. You cannot say that you only want notifictions of source links and not transcluded links from templates.
User:PrimeHunter/Source links.js gives a way to search for source links to a page. It doesn't currently find any in articles.
[11]
PrimeHunter (
talk)
00:32, 13 July 2024 (UTC)