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Hi, just wanted to let you know that I uploaded one of my photos of Mobile's old Waterman Building to Commons and added it to the Wachovia Building (Mobile) and List of tallest buildings in Mobile articles. I appreciate the work you've done on this subject. I'll try to run by the Mobile Marriott and snap a few shots within the next few days, to add to the relevant articles. Altairisfar _talk 15:02, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I've now added a new Mobile Marriott photo to the pages. The quality kinda sucks, it was very humid and hazy when I took it. I'll take more sometime soon and replace it. Also, I removed this statement from Mobile Marriott: "Situated near the Mobile Regional Airport, the Marriott is the tallest building in Mobile outside of the downtown area and the only high-rise outside of downtown to rise higher than 100 feet (30 m)." This hotel is about 3 miles from downtown and about 6 or 7 miles from the airport. It is the tallest outside of downtown, but not the only high-rise taller than 100 feet outside of downtown. I'm not sure about the height of these, but you can view some of them at Providence Hospital, Montlimar Place, and Regions Bank Tower. I'm fairly certain that Central Plaza Towers in midtown would be well over 100 feet too. For List of tallest buildings in Mobile, there are several other buildings in the city limits taller than the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception and possibly taller than the Battle House Hotel. In addition to those mentioned above, in downtown the former Lafayette Plaza Hotel (now the Holiday Inn), Commerce Building, US Engineers Building. Also, The Tower on Ryan Park, University of South Alabama Medical Center, the 3 Bay Shore Avenue Towers, and Cathedral Place Apartments may be taller than the Cathedral, although it's probably a very close call on those. Of course, the devil is in the sourcing and I see that Emporis and the Skyscraperpage are no help with these other buildings. Altairisfar _talk 22:55, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll see what I can do about the other photos- soon. And I'll eventually see if I can locate some offline sources for the other buildings, but I'm not particularly hopeful. I've already checked Mobile County's tax assessments online, but they don't list height, just floors. I'll let you know when I get the new photos. Altairisfar _talk 01:26, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've added images for the Lafayette Plaza Hotel, Radisson Admiral Semmes Hotel, and Royal St. Francis Building. I brought out my good camera this time and got much better quality images. I took multiple images of each building when possible. All of them are in the Commons category High-rise buildings in Mobile, Alabama. If you would give a me few more days before taking the list to FLC, I would appreciate it. I want to see if I can find some book sources for the heights of several buildings not currently included under the "Tallest buildings" header in the list. They are as tall as or taller than the Battle House Hotel (7-stories), Royal St. Francis(8-stories) and the Cathedral. I think that omitting the buildings we don't have online sources for would be misleading if these shorter buildings are included under the tallest buildings header. The Cathedral and Battle House Hotel definitely belong under the "Timeline of tallest buildings" header but maybe not under the current tallest buildings. The other buildings that most likely would need to be included if the above ones remain listed under the tallest buildings header section are: Commerce Building (12-stories), Cathedral Place Apartments (12-stories), Providence Hospital (11-stories), Montlimar Place (10-stories), Regions Bank Tower (10-stories), US Engineers Building (10-stories). These would be as tall as or taller than the last three listed even if they only have a minimal height per floor. So... just give me 2-3 days and I'll let you know if I find anything. Thanks. Altairisfar _talk 22:27, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, I've completed a fairly exhaustive search for height measurements of the buildings, all to no avail. There's only two that I'm fairly certain are taller (although probably not by much) than the Van Antwerp: The Commerce Building and Providence Hospital. I focused on Providence Hospital the most, I even went by there to see if anyone could tell me, but they were very suspicious, as if I wanted to know its height so that I could plan to do something bad. :( I guess that's the world we live in... Also, the Riverview Plaza Office Tower is 13 stories, but rises from the same base as the Renaissance Riverview Plaza Hotel (the one with new inappropriate-looking spire). The other buildings are probably close to, but not quite, the same height as the Van Antwerp, in my personal judgment, which could be wrong (except Cathedral Place Apartments, which even at 12-stories is just about even with the tops of the domes on the Cathedral's towers). I searched at the local libraries and at the courthouse, so I'm doubting that the heights of these others are a matter of public record. Do what you think is best, and the good luck with the FLC. Altairisfar _talk 20:29, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, a new update. The owners of the Commerce Building called me back today. The height from street level to architectural top is 160 ft. I had already found the date built in the online Mobile County tax records, it was completed in 1958. I've submitted the new data to Emporis and Skyscraperpage, though I didn't know when/if they will add it. I'll go ahead and add it to the list with available sources. I think the easiest thing to do would be to keep the list of tallest limited to buildings over 120 ft. Altairisfar _talk 19:06, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll continue working on getting sources. Instead of going in person again, I called Providence Hospital's PR department yesterday, maybe they will get back with me too. Altairisfar _talk 05:47, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey, that sounds great to me. I'm more than willing to help you work on any issues that may arise at FLC. Altairisfar _talk 19:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

How long will it take for Singapore to become featured? Also witch list are you currently working on? Cherub79 ( talk) 23:34, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey no problem glad to help.— JA10 Talk • Contribs 03:15, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Yep, thanks happy to contribute in any way I can.— JA10 Talk • Contribs 02:27, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

No worries. RI 78 - I have to redo the junctions list. And no problem on RI 99.Mitch32^{( Want help? See here!)} 02:46, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Probably soon, I was thinking you can do the honors of bringing it to WP:USRD/ACR, because I hate doing that process.Mitch32^{( Want help? See here!)} 14:05, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Might be good as-is.Mitch32^{( Want help? See here!)} 14:48, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Do you have any good pics of the wooden tower on US 1 near RI 138?Mitch32^{( Want help? See here!)} 15:19, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Cool. I love climbing that tower. My grandparents used to live in Narragansett and my grandfather is buried off Route 138 in Peace Dale. So, I have a lot of good memories.Mitch32^{( Want help? See here!)} 15:26, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, it certainly does :D - Mitch32^{( Want help? See here!)} 23:32, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey. If you want, you can join us on IRC at #wikipedia-en-roads . Here is a client if you choose to join us. :) - Mitch32^{( Want help? See here!)} 14:40, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

You can use Chatzilla on Firefox, if you have that.Mitch32^{( Want help? See here!)} 03:25, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Renaissance Center is 73 story tower with 70 floors. [1]. The reason is that the restaurant atop the RenCen takes up the three floors at the top in layers. See also Renaissance Center home page. Thomas Paine1776 ( talk) 15:48, 21 August 2009 (UTC) Thomas Paine1776 ( talk) 15:47, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

The Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago) PR is coming to a close at Wikipedia:Peer review/Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago)/archive1. However, I need some expert assistance with succession boxes for the building. I think it needs some sort of succession boxes for tallest formwork building, highest residence from ground level, and maybe more. Can you add these? I suspect it has been passed as tallest formwork already, but am not sure. Is a second tallest U.S. building an appropriate succession box?-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 16:12, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. This is now second in line after Crown Fountain to go to WP:FAC. You probably have several weeks before then. You may stumble upon stuff about tallest formwork by then. It seems that List_of_tallest_buildings_and_structures_in_the_world#Tallest_structure_by_category shows taller concrete towers. Is that reliably sourced?-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 15:49, 24 August 2009 (UTC)-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 15:49, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

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I think the under construction section at List of tallest buildings in Chicago needs to be updated.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 04:28, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Issues have arisen at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Crown Fountain/archive4 regarding the skyscraper page, which seems to be temporarily unavailable. Since so many of your articles reference these pages, I thought you might know how concerned I should be. Can you comment on the discussion on this matter. Is there another source for building heights that is reliable?

Also, do you know how to justify http://www.ultrapolisproject.com/Tallest_25_Skylines_Cities.htm as a reliable source or to find this content elsewhere. A comment in the discussion on this matter would also be helpful.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 04:50, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I asked a question at Talk:Richard J. Daley Center, and User:TonyTheTiger said you might know the answer. Do you? Un sch ool 00:07, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! Un sch ool 21:59, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Please accept my apology if I angered you upon this vandalism that you reverted. I was just trying to mention that they would be able to build 200 Greenwich Street if they would just start right away. It's nobody's fault, they're just choosing to be lazy and not work on the building. I really insist that everything would be finished on schedule if those workers would speed it up and not delay. Bob.-- 76.217.106.0 ( talk) 03:41, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed you're a member of the Rhode Island WikiProject, so could you leave some comments here if you get a chance? Thanks. :) – Juliancolton |  ^Talk 14:46, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

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This is Bob again. I think another problem is that Silverstein waited until 2006 to start construction. If construction for these new towers began in 2004, there might have been a chance for the buildings to proceed with far less delays, and open even sooner. Why couldn't they just start earlier? Also, do you think that the more workers at the site there are, the faster it can continue. Please respond. Bob.-- 76.224.119.82 ( talk) 03:21, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

See here. Cheeers, Dabomb87 ( talk) 01:52, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

You are probably interested in Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago)/archive2.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 21:26, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

There are a couple of sources being called into question. Since this is your specialty, I thought you might know some reliable sources for the facts at issue.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 00:39, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I see you have only made two edits since September 25, but I hope you can make a moment for this one.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 22:46, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I have recently revamped this list, which I intended to nominate for FL soon. Since I've never written a skyscraper list before, could you take a look at it to see if there are any problems? Thanks in advance.— Chris! _{c/ t} 22:42, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Where can I find coordinates for buildings? Emporis doesn't have it and I don't know how to find coordinates from Google Map.— Chris! _{c/ t} 03:29, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I got the coordinates. Now, I have other questions. Are we using Emporis as the only RS for skyscraper list? Is SkyscraperPage.com RS? Also what about buildings w/o height? Do we count them? I am asking because I am revamping List of tallest buildings in San Jose and see conflicting info.— Chris! _{c/ t} 06:16, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi there Raime. I see you are quite busy, and that you have already worked on this list a bit, but if you have time, the FLC needs a few eyes. Cheers, Dabomb87 ( talk) 03:28, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

RI 4 got promoted to A-class this morning. Are we ready for Featured article canidacy? :).Mitch32^{( The Password is... See here!)} 14:43, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Hey, no problem. I copied your signature text to make sure you got credit. :D - You deserve credit too. You had me worried though. We're up to 3 supports, so let's keep it moving.Mitch32^{( A fortune in fabulous articles can be yours!)} 15:33, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

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Nabil rais2008 ( talk) 11:56, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Come comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago)/archive3.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 21:35, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

There is debate about whether http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=2203 is a Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat-sourced reference. I am not sure why you say this is so. Please come comment.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 21:08, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

There is a controversy over the height of Trump Tower Chicago at Talk:Trump_International_Hotel_and_Tower_(Chicago)#Height_and_floors. Advice is needed.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 15:03, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Would you care to clean up the article in this regard. It would be great if you could source how it grew from seventh to sixth place and include it in the article. If not let me know and I will try, but I think this is something you might do better than I.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 05:49, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

A lot of the commentary is chronological. You may want to make mention of the measurment change whereever it falls chronologically.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 06:00, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Maybe a new section. I am not sure how much you have to say. Use your best judgment. It can always be moved. Just remember to address all the issues raised on the talk page regarding this issue. They might not be in this section.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 07:16, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

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		The Excellent User Page Award
		You got lot of lists here!!! Jordan S. Wilson ( talk) 05:06, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For making those lists of buildings!! Jordan S. Wilson ( talk) 05:06, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

I did take a break, quite a long one. Not you though... 15,000 edits, wow. I had a change of jobs. I'm back in Seoul now, and I have quite a lot of free times in my afternoons, so I started up again. I'm determined to really improve the St. Louis pages. I made St. Louis Gateway Mall a week or so back, and I see St. Louis has loads of buildings that need pages made for them. Same for the buildings at St. Louis Building Arts Foundation. They're not my priority for the moment, but I'll get there eventually. Right now, I'm eager to tackle the board of aldermen and their wards. What city's buildings are you working on now? DaronDierkes ( talk) 11:18, 20 December 2009 (UTC)