July 10 last year you deleted this image with the summary it had the same name on the commons. The link is now broken with no trace of any such image on the commons. Where did it go? - Mgm| (talk) 12:11, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
I want to know why my IP address was blocked. I do have an account, I just don't feel like logging in everytime I want to correct a minor misspelling (I occasionally use my account, I just prefer anonymous editing, is that wrong?). How did I abuse my IP address? I never vandalized any articles and I think it's unfair that I get blocked without any explanation. Let's see if we can work something out. I can understand you'd want to keep trouble makers out of Wikipedia (trust me, I hate them too), but I assure you I am not one of them. Hurricane Andrew 14:56, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I'll keep this short. Could you reconsider your recent RFAR request, giving the new process a chance? I would that perhaps we can assist these two, and they could add good content. In the interest of the project. Thanks, Navou banter / contribs 15:50, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Whatever you did, it seems to have stopped him cold. Thanks very much for handling that. Seraphimblade Talk to me 01:12, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
The Working Man's Barnstar | ||
For your seemingly tireless efforts in improving Wikipedia, I, Khoikhoi, award you this barnstar. 02:55, 4 April 2007 (UTC) |
Oh, and Ararat arev is back on Armenia under the following IPs:
Ciao, Khoi khoi 02:55, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I am one of the editors who first had to deal with this user over five months ago. Quite simply, no power on earth will ever stop him from adding his material rabidly if the semiprotection is removed. He's already returned once again just after you unprotected it. You might want to put it back. Thanatosimii 05:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Could you please check the activity of 72.18.138.210 ( talk · contribs). He has been edit warring on some pages, deleting content added by other users and ignoring talk, and has previous warnings from admins about his actions being vandalism. Regards, Grandmaster 05:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/E104421-Tajik. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/E104421-Tajik/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/E104421-Tajik/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 12:35, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of List of abbreviations for names. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. — Swpb talk contribs 12:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I think that the decision to block this user was a bit premature. The cited reverts in the 3RR were for undoing POV vandalism POV pushing (this last resulted in the page being fully protected). The 300 article's edit page - in an effort to maintain stability, requested that users bring their proposed changes to the Discussion Page first. This request was also meant to build consensus for changes in the article, and cut down on edit warring. Benhams's edits were not of the tendentious sort, and were actually constructive.
Benham has been harassed by User:Agha Nader, whom he apparently knows in RL. After looking at the edit histories of both, I do see a tendency of Nader to follow Benham around, contesting his edits. I never believed in cabals, and for the most part still don't, but I have noticed - at least in the 300 article a definite, overtly cooperative effort to maintain a pro-nationalist sentiment within the article. Both ArmenianJoe and Agha Nader (and a few others, such as Khoikoi, Azerbaijani and Mardavich) seem to work in very close coordination of effort, via external email (fully aware that any conversation within talk will be recorded). While of course there are no cabals, the best of these "non-cabals" maintain a NPOV to work towards a better article; that is not occurring with the aforementioned users. They work to undo edits that that challenges their nationalist view, and to discredit and remove those editors who disagree consistently with this view. Often this view fiolates one or more of the Five Pillars. After viewing the ArbCom you are part of, I am pretty sure you know what I am talking about here.
Benham has clearly angered this group, and you can see that the edits he reverted were non-consensus edits that served solely to push a POV that was in the specific minority in the article. If you cannot see your way to removing the block after evaluating the environment in which Benham was editing in, perhaps you could lessen the length of the block. Typically, a first block lasts for 8 hours. Benham has not received that same consideration that any other user would have for 3RR on non edit-warring edits.
Arcayne 16:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
As I said before, you can address these issues on my talk page, so long as you remain polite. That you are posting it here simply suggests that you are cheaply trying to complain to this user. As for the comment, I have already clearly answered you there; the comment was not directed at you, and I am quite certain that your time would be far better spendt not stalking my user history or talk pages. After this post, you can write all you want - I am not going to take up another inch of this user's talk page. Arcayne 11:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I made a bad call there. Another admin who is involved with the article contacted me and I reduced the block to three hours last night. However, you're right and I should not have blocked them in haste as I did. I will immediately apologise to that editor. I'm only a 2-week newb admin but I should have known better and slipped up on this one. AIV was kinda busy last night! - Alison ☺ 16:52, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
After my recent block I realize that your edict at Azerbaijan (Iran) is essentially a zero revert rule. I don't know if such a rule has legitimacy on WP as an alternative to protection but I ask that you implement protection instead. If people want to add something they can just use the formal request template on the talk page. On the other hand, 0RR allows things to be added but never removed, and may encourage sockpuppetry. Full protection seems to be a better, WP-endorsed mechanism for freezing edit wars, so I ask you do please use full protection there instead of 0RR. Thank you. The Behnam 10:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
-- howcheng { chat} 06:08, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi,
Response now available there. If you'd prefer to talk the discussion to any particular talk page, that's fine with me. Best wishes, Xoloz 00:04, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
This kind of looks like he is evading his ban, [3] and the revert by the IP are the same, [4] Artaxiad 09:01, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
According to the block log, he is blocked for two months for using suckpuppets. See link. -- Thus Spake Anittas 19:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser&oldid=87046132#William_Mauco
This anon user seems to be having some difficulty working with others ( 1, 2 and is often uncivil ( 1). The user has a short but unhappy history within the WP community. Usually, one can find at least one or two positive edits that a user has made. Unfortunately (and surprisingly), this user has none. What might we be able to offer the editing community in the way of protection from this user? - Arcayne (cast a spell) 14:21, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Can you check this case out? This is a really big sock case. Kingjeff 04:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure that you made an accurate assesment of the case? Can you please recheck them? Kingjeff 20:47, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
If you look here and here, then you'll see evidence of an evasion of a ban. Here is a giveaway for IP Address 81.211.198.6. Kingjeff 21:57, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Just to be clear, I assume that TropicNord ( talk · contribs) is not a confirmed Arthur Ellis Sock? I just want to verify before I fulfill the requested removal of tags from his/her userspace. Thanks!-- Isotope23 16:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dmcdevit, I need your help. REDVERS, one of the Administrators that is working with the Fellowship of Friends page, left me the following message:
I wrote to REDVERS but he didn't reply to me. Do you know how can I find out who the sock pupeteers are based on this and this? Thanks a lot! Mario Fantoni 18:12, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Did you check Xmas1973 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) and John Smith's ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)? The IP shows as in the UK, which I know John Smith is from. If they are connected this would be a 3RR vio. Thanks. Giovanni33 04:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
againstI do have a question. Dmcdevit, did you check where there is any relation between the anon IP 209.160.65.68 and User:VietFire? John Smith's 15:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks for being the voice of reason with your comments on Zeq's talk page. I reiterate that I am not, as he claims, involved in any content dispute with him, and in fact, am trying to spare newer admins what I and others have gone through; to ensure that all the work that went into the arbitration case was not for naught. Also, I am sorry about the slight unpleasentness we've had in the past over this. Regards, El_C 07:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
User is complaining so I took the liberty of starting a thread here to endorse your block (which was past due, IMHO). -- bainer ( talk) 14:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I came across Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Matthead where a user wonders what does Possible mean. I must admit I am a bit lost myself on the different templates you CU use to answer the cases. I started a discussion some time ago on the clerk noticeboard on the meaning of all these. What do you think of expanding the Indicator page to emphasize a bit more the answers? -- lucasbfr talk 15:50, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Please check recent contribs of User:Azerbaijani. He is waging a slow revert war. Just today he reverted 3 pages. See: [5] [6] Here he reverted the page: [7] To this version: [8] And this edit [9] is a partial revert, as he deleted the following line under a guise of adding info: However, official reports from international organizations, such as the leading human rights organization in the European Community, the Council of Europe, paint a favorable picture.
Entitlement to 1 revert per week does not mean that he should go around and revert the pages once a week, he makes no attempt to reach a compromise with other editors or try a dispute resolution. Grandmaster 20:00, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering if you would like to look into this case. Artaxiad seems to be still editing: [10]. He says he wont stop. -- Cat chi? 11:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the very prompt and efficient reply to the request. TropicNord
Arbcom rulings are prescriptive, though, which is what we're talking about, and which isn't a small point. Just so you know, the problem Zero is getting at is the problem you have any time one person writes and interprets the same text. Let's say you wrote the ruling poorly; is that something you're going to be as ready to admit as a third party? Beyond that, are you going to be as perceptive to ambiguities in your text? I don't know that it's anything to inform arbcom about, but I do think it's something for you to consider.
My point here, in any case, is simply that a misreading of an ambiguously worded arbcom ruling isn't the time to resort to harsh sanctions against a guy who has been contributing extremely productively here for some three years. Just a thought. Mackan79 06:55, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Just to inform you, not long ago on the Admins noticeboard, a pretty serious allegation was made against you regarding possible abuse of your Checkuser privileges. Whether you reply or not is up to you, but I'm sure you would want to provide your point of view. Just passing on the message. Harryboyles 13:02, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Can you protect the page? 3RR against user Alaexis ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) He was blocked before 2 days ago for 3RR.-- M-renewal 13:58, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
An uninvolved user has posted to WP:AN requesting a review of your 48-hour block of User:The Benham. I see some mitigating circumstances, while two other admins (one on AN and one on the user's talkpage) have agreed with the block. Your input at AN is requested. Regards, Newyorkbrad 23:04, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
This block is being discussed on WP:AN#Request Admin Second Opinion on Unblock Request for User:The Behnam. At least two editors have supported an unblock. Your comments would be welcome. DES (talk) 23:05, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
A case you commented has been filed an ArbCom request by me, on Wikipedia:Requests for Arbitration#Transnistria, please go take a look, thank you! Wooyi Talk, Editor review 02:19, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
It looks like you have been engaging in edit warring at Iranian women. Please be aware that User:The Behnam has just been blocked for this, and the same will happen to you if it continues. You need to read WP:DR and follow the non-confrontational processes outlined there for resolvin the conflict. Thanks. Dmcdevit· t 07:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey look! ParthianShot tried DR right with his next edit [12]! The Behnam 14:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
That was a refreshing read. Btw, Slrubenstein introduced me to a recent essay of his today which you may be interested to review. Regards, El_C 10:20, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I see a lot of the accounts listed were not blocked (the later ones), were they unrelated, or was just burntsauce unrelated? SirFozzie 19:53, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
User:209.217.67.146 is requesting unblock. I have contacted you, as in guideance with our procedures. Part Deux 21:02, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Thankyou for offering to assist in the investigation. I shall be in touch shortly to discuss any issues. Feel free to provide an email address to cartmanau-at-gmail.com if you wish it to remain private - Cartman02au 07:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
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Hello,
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Zeq-Zero0000. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Zeq-Zero0000/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Zeq-Zero0000/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, David Mestel( Talk) 19:36, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
If I tell you that I want to see a better encyclopedia ?
I know you think I am hopeless, and quite honestly I can see why.
However, most articles from which I was banned (even for a year) have all had continued edit-war without me.
I did not receive 8 blocks for editwars. Some of my blocks were on nonsense like I left a message on few people talk page asking them to participate in an admin vote. That was enough for a young admin to block me (twice - once more fro asking to be unblocked) . That admin has later given up his adminship on the ground that he realize he is not mature enough (he is only a kid)
Anyhow, Wikipedia is missing amechanism to ensure NPOV and lack of edit wars on issues such as the ME articles. People like my self, Zero and Ian could never agree without a 3rd party activly mediating. Just banning me from articles I had conflict with Zero Palestinian Exodus and the 1948 war has done nothing Zero continued the POV pushing and edit war with others. This is endless and this is not just a personal issue but also a process issue.
as you can see I don't have problem to admit my guilt (in places where I am guilty) but I do want to move beyond guilt to find a process that can work. Just blocking the Pro_israel side of the POV and doing nothing to the anti-israel side of the POV is not a way to get to NPOV.
Best regards, Zeq 19:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
"one of the best ways to work to improve the encyclopedia rather than to promote your POV is to avoid contentious topics that excite you enough to cause such hostile editing tactics."
Best, Zeq 10:15, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
MedianLady ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Possible sock puppet and/or sock puppet of another user looking to stir up trouble [13]. May be a backslashing open proxy. [14] Thatcher131 20:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I found that you have declined the cases on Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Pens withdrawn. My request is to run a checkuser for the my userid and check whether these users are sockpuppet of mine. It is clear from my evidences that these users are not in my IP domain and there is no reason to put them under my user id. Ptu them int appropriate places. Not under my user id. As the request says the checkuser was for the "Pens withdrawn" and all the users are put under my id!! --- Sundaram7 07:32, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
It wasnt so much as a sockpuppet abuse, this user used his IP address AND his account to post on it. If I nominated him in the wrong place, please direct me to the correct location. I remember reading somewhere that this could be done, so I gave it a shot. Thanks DietLimeCola 07:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
This user is practically asking for a ban. See here: [16] [17] Click on the links there to see his personal attacks. He is making it very clear that he knows that he is personally attacking me and that he doesnt care whether he has to face the consequences. This is coming from a user that just got out of an Arbcom. I'm sick of his personal attacks, and I think he should be banned for a period of one year for these attacks (thats my opinion, I'll leave the actual decision to you guys). Azerbaijani 03:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't know why this revert was made [18] without any discussion. He also reverted all the changes I made yesterday, back to back within a minute so either he's a speed reader or he did not read any comments or content.
I made a direct appeal on his talk page , on the article talk page, and on my edit summary on why the change was made [ [19]] , alas.
He claims Primary Sources are completely out per WP:NOR. But I provided three sources which is acceptable per WP:NOR, and WP says they're even encouraged.
What did I do wrong that warranted a revert from an admin. And he won't discuss anything with me, nor does he comment the edit summary.
I am asking you for help because, if I ask anyone else for anything, I get blocked.
So, please, I really need to know what I am doing wrong here. Thanks. -- Oguz1 14:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Transnistria. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Transnistria/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Transnistria/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, David Mestel( Talk) 22:09, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I still don't appreciate users harassments theres other interwikis. Ashkani 03:44, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the comment on the talk page. I think we can reach a relative stability there with my last edit. I think it also reflects the bbc reference well. deniz T C 00:32, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
I disagree with you this time, anyway I am quite busy, I should possibly take a break. deniz T C 21:51, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Your input might be helpful on an unblock request at User_talk:Megaversal. Regards, Newyorkbrad 20:58, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
User:Dmcdevit says: You have multiple reverts at this article since its unprotection with no edits to the talk page at all. You were just blocked for edit warring there. Please stop continuing the current edit war, and intead work the problem out by discussing it. If the edit war continues it may be dealt with by blocks. Dmcdevit·t 20:55, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
These are six edits and summaries of all the editions (more than three months) by me from 12 "January" 2007. My summaries:
Regarding "no edits to the talk page," I'm the one who asked the use of talk page and inspide of the other users gave an extensive reasoning, which the respond never solidified. I would appreciate if, you follow this link and see the response and how the introduiction section should be shaped.
Could you please be more specific; especially why do you feel the need to threaten me?? It is hard to understand the reasons of me being targatted.?? Thanks. -- OttomanReference 00:00, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Also regarding the blockage: Besides the fact that I have never been in the 3RR, there has never been a warning by Admin user:Cbrown1023. This can be easily recognized if you follow my talk page. The Admin User:Thatcher131 tried to war me about the 3thr revert but I was blocked by then.
While asking me to discuss the content of the introduction section; and giving me a warning not to edit the page; The introduction section has been removed not just a single sentence but two paragraphs [26] without any discussion at the talk page [27]. I just do not get your position. Thanks. -- OttomanReference 02:37, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I suspect that Pam55 ( talk · contribs) is a sock account. Please check his contributions, he only turns up occasionally to revert Iran related articles. Grandmaster 10:39, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Do I know you my dear sir? Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 05:14, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
He's been back, on the Turkey and Armenia pages. Would it be possible for you to nail some more IPs and/or socks? (If you'd prefer I make the request on the main checkuser page, just troutslap me and I'll be happy to, just figured you were already familiar with the situation.) Seraphimblade Talk to me 10:19, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I have added another one that i forget to put before. Can you please check it for me. Thanks DXRAW 12:15, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello Dmcdevit, can you take a look here please? User_talk:Blnguyen#Any_ideas_about_what_to_do_with_this_article.2Feditor.3F. Thanks, Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 23:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Your article Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-04-23/Pat Binns contained the sentence: "As of publishing, the television segment was still illegally available through Pate’s YouTube channel." with a link to the material. Please read Wikipedia:Copyrights#Linking_to_copyrighted_works and note that linking to copyright infringements is prohibited on Wikipedia and may constitute a copyright infringement in itself. Thanks. Dmcdevit· t 08:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
I understand tha User:Ahwaz was unblocked under his promise not to edit war on Nasser Pourpirar. Indeed Ahwaz account has not touched the article ever since. On the other hand the history of the article shows a number of throw away accounts reverting it. Do you think they are Ahwaz's puppets? If, yes, he probably should be reblocked. Alex Bakharev 07:06, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Since you were an arbitrator on the case involving Moby Dick, I was wondering if you could provide some insight at User:Ben's comments at the Community sanction noticeboard using Moby Dick's edits as evidence (or something like evidence) -- Cat chi? 17:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
The user is back with several socks, all of which can be found here, here and here. Just a heads up. Anything that can be done? Cheers, – Riana ऋ 18:58, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
B.Wind is suffering from an autblock which appears to be connected to a Checkuser block you placed. I do not intend to undo the block, but as the blocking checkuser-admin, I would appreciate you taking a look. The user also states he/she has sent an email to the blocking admin (I'm assuming you). - auburnpilot talk 07:01, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
You have blocked user:Tajik few weeks back and he is now using a new user name, which is user:Tajik-Professor. He is purposly using bad typing during his edits, at the same time, using a name tajik-"professor". both, tajik and tajik-professors, are involved in anti- pashtun (see talk:Pashtun people) and anti- Afghanistan.
Somebody needs to stop this user who is hooked on spreading false, misleading, and incomplete information online. Herdtrid 23:34, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I've only made two reverts and an edit, on something which is a clear NPOV violation. Miskin 00:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
For example have a look at this edit which I didn't even bother with: [29]. What about WP:NPOV? Does the opinion of a group of partisan editors count more than NPOV? Miskin 00:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Two reverts is my limit. This article has been pov-pushed too much by partisan editors, who have btw established a status quo version by means of numerical superiority. It is ridiculous to seek DR for such a fundamental question. They claim that their pseudo-consensus is more credible than npov. Miskin 00:39, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
As well, I thank you for pointing out my, Miskin's and AlienTraveler's eidts. However, I couldn't help but notice how these were the only three folks you took it upon yourself to "warn." One might ask why you didn't bother notifying the other editors in the dispute. Of course, you might have not gotten around to doing it as of yet. As you know there is a major concern expressed by a number of other editors about the presence of a pro-nationalist group of editors. Your failure to properly notify the other editors in the dispute might very well be construed as bias. I won't take that step with you, although I have found at least one other admin working with this group. Arcayne (cast a spell) 00:59, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
My accusations are never ill-considered, but thanks for making part of my point for me, Nader. However, I don't believe I know why you are here. I didn't refer to you by name, and I can assure you that I don't consider you an opponent. In point of fact, I hardly consider you at all. I believe you have been warned numerous times about stalking and plotting against other editors. You are excused, sir. Arcayne (cast a spell) 04:35, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Something evil has happened and I wonder if you could explain and follow up; it appears user "66" signed his last discussion post for Richard Hell entry as "Roosterer" and then proceeded to get you to block every single anon on that page as "blocked as abusive" EXCEPT for "66" (ie, he got "Roosterer" banned too) AND he got the version he wanted put up (CLEARLY showing beyond all doubt he won't engage in gd faith discussion) protected; there is no edit history for the reversion; Please follow up; I also think this behavior should have "66" banned; if that is not possible a SEVERE reprimand if such exists. It was highly abusive, dishonest and disturbing. AND he got his goal of his page version up so no edits would be done (See Talk page for STEEL for discussion of why his version is NOT to be the one up, and the purpose for the original protect). THis behavior is severe; every single anon on that page (multiple people over multiple years) were blocked by him, at his request using a false account set up ("Roosterer" - who refers to prior posts when there are none registered for Roosterer on that page). This appears obvious; please confirm why you did those blocks and reversion of protected page (and why no history is there to trace it). 4.236.15.182 18:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Does this [ [30]] mean we are okay? - was posted by User: Kd lvr
Bahá'í Faith has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dmc - can you please check up Paraqueet ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) and Herr=dab= ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) - these two ids were caught trolling on Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Hkelkar/Evidence by me and user:Newyorkbrad in a relatively short space of time. I am suspecting Kuntan ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) or Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Hkelkar but it could be another involved party as well. Rama's arrow (just a sexy boy) 20:29, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, this is Kuntan. The following are all confirmed:
Since the checkuser results indicate likely sockpuppetry, what do I do next? JFD 04:16, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
This has been discussed before. Zero was told not to ban Zeq 07:49, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
devit,
You need to realize one very important issue about wkipedia which is especially true for people who come from non-english speaking places (like I do): 1. I do not graps fully what is the difference between "good faith" and "good jusdgment". 2. Any exchange in written english lacks the basic human comunication mechanisms of tone of voice, facial expression etc.. - as such the opportunity to misunderstand is high. So I am not sure what is exactly you are now further complainaing about me. Zero should have known not to ban me (he was told by Fred not to use ban as the first step if he has a conflict) you want to call it "bad judgment" this is fine by me. Zero have demonstrated all along that he does not take descision truly as a neutral party. He takes decision based on his clash of POV with me. call it as you like. Zeq 10:47, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
While I do not have a good grasp of what american english speakers mean in the word "judgment" I do think I can identify when someone doubt that someone else is acting in bad faith. Is this (the bottom part not the highlighted on top) [33] one of those instances ? I am asking. this is a question. Zeq 11:00, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Or maybe do you consider this Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Zeq-Zero0000/Workshop#NPOV_requires_both_views_to_be_represented to be a violation of AGF ? But what if the evidence support that this is modus operandy that Zero is using again and again ? He makes article POV by removing the other POV. I have showed this in the evidence. Zeq 11:20, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
here it is again: [34] supreme intelegence able to turn everything to his prefered direction. That is how he has been also editing for years. Always he is right and the other side is wrong. Zeq 12:43, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
That is good definition. I understand better. At least I know now that I am acting in good faith. It is beyond my ability to judge other people motives. I really can not tell what they are. I can only look at their results without knowing if it their motives or their judgment that got to those results. Zeq 12:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Hello DMC! Hope everything is going well for you. I am seeking access to the admin channels at IRC. You apparently have the keys. (Are they attached to a brick on a chain like at the Sunoco station?) Let me know how to proceed, if you would be so kind. Thanks in advance for your consideration. Best regards, as always, Hamster Sandwich 19:55, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I am reporting an editor who is engaged in edit-warring. HappyInGeneralhas done about 34 reverts on ( [35]) page alone in the last two weeks. He and I were warned on May 1st. [36] I have refrained from editing that page, but HappyInGeneral has continued edit warning.
In ignoring the warning and 3RR rule, HappyInGeneral has declared himself an edit warrior. If he is not punished for this behavior now, no one will care about Wiki rules any more.
The edit warning on that page is mostly about a provocative and contested image added by HappyInGeneral. Many editors have rejected placing this picture in the intro. In trying to reach a compromise with him I created a section call “Abuses against Falun Gong practitioners” and placed this picture there. But HappyInGeneral deleted this section and moved the picture back to the intro thus starting a round of revert war. [37] -- Samuel Luo 06:24, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Dmcdevit, I had to look up impugn but after doing so I assure you that my intent was not to impugn anything or anyone. I keep my opinion about the propriety of your activities out of that message as well as of this one. I post a simple statement of fact that the post to the board specifically designed for such kind of messages and attended by a wider spectrum of admins would result in an action (or lack of it) more likely to be in line with the general community stance on such a non-clearcut issues like whether a particular series of reverts amounts to disruption or not. I am pleased by your appreciation of my concern. -- Irpen 07:46, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree that there is a revert war going on, which I don't like, so please help me clarify a few things by commenting on my contributions.
The Suppression_of_Falun_Gong page:
I think that this contribution is essential: [38] because it's well sourced and very relevant to the page. Please review and let me know what you think.
Also the tags are necessary because the current version of Suppression_of_Falun_Gong [39] is hijacked by the POV of Special:Contributions/Samuel_Luo a Falun Gong critic who is proposed for being banned [40], also you may observe that the contributions of Special:Contributions/Pirate101 and Special:Contributions/Yueyuen are only imitating Samuel Luo's behavior.
A few questions:
My opinion regarding these questions, and please let me know if I'm wrong.
As far as I see it, I'm acting according to the wikipedia rules and spirit, where Samuel is not, he is even removing tags that show that the article is disputed.
Also please note that there was a legitimate section for this on this page [41] however this was deleted: [42]. Abusively and repeatedly [43]. Also please review this section of the evidence page: [44]
PS: Note that this is question is here for more then a month now: [45]
I would really like more input on this issue, from you or from anyone else, this would be very much appreciated. Thank You. -- HappyInGeneral 21:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
I am also Selket on FreeNode IRC. -- Selket Talk 06:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
The concern I have about the Licorne issue is that it was unilaterally extended to indefinite by one admin, with no discussion whatsoever. To be fair, I believe that anti-Semitic hate speech shouldn't be tolerated--hell, I gave the admin who indef'd him a Barnstar yesterday for booting him. But how's it gonna look in court if Licorne shows up expecting to edit under the restrictions imposed by ArbCom, only to find himself indef'd? It wouldn't be worth the inevitable disruption he'd cause. That was my rationale ... I was concerned that a one-year ArbCom ban that was extended to indefinite without discussion (no matter how merited it was) wouldn't stick in court, and the guy would drive people off Wikipedia before finally being booted for good. I'd have mentioned this on ANI, but didn't want to get jumped on in case anyone considered it trolling. Blueboy 96 19:59, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
I support him being booted--I just want to make sure we get it right and don't give him a window where he could possibly return. Blueboy 96 21:42, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Here's the diff of FIVE members of ArbCom endorsing CSN and it's ability to topic ban problem users. [49] SirFozzie 23:17, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Maybe I'm reading something into the words you're not, however. "The SYSTEM' appears to be working". SirFozzie 23:44, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Thatcher's point is what I'm trying to get at. Maybe an example will help? Back in the deep primordial ooze before WP:CSN existed, I thought about a community ban for ParadoxTom and broached the subject at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive141#Community_ban_for_ParadoxTom, where it was decided to restrict him to 1RR. A month later, after a few violations of this community-imposed, completely uncontroversial 1RR, the case was brought up at ArbCom [50], where I instead recused and imposed a community ban on ParadoxTom, since I felt confident there would be no objection. There was no objection, Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive150#Community_ban_for_ParadoxTom, and ParadoxTom was quietly banned by acclamation without resorting to ArbCom. This is in no way an innovation of WP:CSN, to claim so is a red herring, and what I am in opposition is the bureaucratic hoops that CSN is trying to impose that will constrain such reasonable actions. Dmcdevit· t 00:03, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Latest batch of socks, with account creation times:
Could you check if there's more where those came from? Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:22, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
If you trust my good faith I will tell you one more thing. 90% of my edits in wkipedia have been in an attempt to NPOV blunt POV by people like Zero, Homey etc...Wikipedia has a serious anti-Israel problem and this is btw, why almost all Israeli editors (very active in Hebrew wikipedia have left the english wiki - only El_C has remained but he has viwes that are of a tiny minority). In a world in which Zionist is a 4 letter word Wikipedia is loosing a valid (yet unpopular) POV.
You still think the process is fair ? that it looks fair ? that Fred "anti-zionisim" is not part of what goes on here ?
Look I respect your political view (as far as I know you are anti-zionist as well, I was a green-party supporter my self once) but the issue here is to be fair and not biased. I think you are and I think that Fred can not be.
Zeq 03:49, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I did not had any recent direct edit dispute with Fred. I respect his viwes as he admitted to be "anti-Zionist" and he charterze me as "Zionist". So clearly this is the samr old problem I have wrote to you before: 2 opposing POV.
It is the same as with Zero. I respect his POV. All that I ask is that his POV will be presented fairly, side by side to the other POV. Howver, Zero has a technique to nullify the opposing views - I describe it in the evidence page. In many articles it is working. I have e-mails from people telling me they are afaraif to edit the Nakba article because Zero and his tag-team "own" that article. In previous arbcom case Jayjg promised to mediate the article but he bailed out at the first sign of opposition to this move by the editors who control this article.
What is the propre prcedure to make sure that ArbCom rule on the request that Fred ( a self described "anti-zionist") will recuse ? I would like to get a rulling on this prior to Fred already making "finding of facts" (so far some of his finding have turned out to be wrong and in some of those he actually admitted it as well as being rude toward me) apearnce of fairness is already lost in this case - is this what you expected when you filled the case ? Zeq 18:10, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Is Fred bauder just the "god" of wikipedia ? there is ton of evidence on Zero edit-war , removal of sources and more (in articles I was not even involved in) but somehow not a single arbitor (other than Fred) is at all commenting in the workshop, no one asked even a single question on the evidence, no discussion on the request for Fred to recuse and Fred already rushing with the only finding that Zero was "rude". Zeq 19:50, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Now this isn't a post about what you think it is going to be about. I have apologized to User:Kd lvr on his talk page, which is easier said than done. Let's just say I let my pride and my stubborness get in my way alot. So, it was hard, but I apologized. Whether he accepts it or not, I am not sure and I don't expect him to. Just seemed like the right thing to do.
I would like to say, that I am a little disheartened though that my apology on my talk page explaining my actions was shot down as "half-hearted". This hurt just a little, cause I was apologizing whole-heartedly and it was shot down. You can't really show emotion through computers, so it kinda hurt that I was blocked and told to "take to heart assume good faith" and my apology was pushed aside by someone assuming it was a bad-faith, half-assed apology.
Anyway, just thought you would like to know that about my current post on User:Kd lvr talk page. - SVRTVDude ( V T) 23:27, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Currently there is an edit war being engaged by a user who is obviously reading something I am not or just making things up. Could you revert his changes and protect the Stoop!d Monkey page until the logo situation can be worked out.
The Stoop!d Monkey page was subject of an AfD and the result was "Keep". The admin who closed the AfD said that "I just said the article was to be kept, I don't know about the logos". There wasn't a decision given on the logos and in the AfD only 3 users said the logos should go, only 1 said keep the article, lose the logos.
I am not sure how to handle this, but since the admin who closed the AfD made no decision and the AfD wasn't about the logos in the first place (and the majority said to keep the logos if you want to be picky about it) I have asked that the user's changes be reverted and the page be locked til this can be worked out. Perhaps you could help, I don't need to be in anymore trouble. - SVRTVDude ( V T) 01:31, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
If you want my recommendations about how to resolve the dispute, I would say just cool it. Maybe the other guy is being unreasonable, we all have to deal with unreasonable people at Wikipedia at some point. But seriously, it's not a big deal, in the long term, to leave up the other version (especially if it's only about a bunch of logos) while you discuss it. It's not good to continue discussing it as long as you're still going back and forth poisoning the atmosphere on the article itself. You might want to ask some of the people that commented on the AfD (not just the ones that agreed with you) to weigh in at the discussion, as it's always better when it's not a head-to-head negotiation. Dmcdevit· t 03:27, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi. FYI if you haven't seen it, there is ongoing discussion on WP:CN about, and some questions have been raised regarding, your checkuser finding on the above. Part of me doesn't want to see any more time spent on this situation, but I and am sure others would still be interested if there is anything you can add to the discussion there. Regards, Newyorkbrad 05:10, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Your edit here released the IP addresses of editors in a manner inconsistent with http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CheckUser_policy#Wikimedia_privacy_policy. I have removed such addresses from the current version [52]; please oversight all revisions of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents which contain this information. Thank you. John254 02:53, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Due to your improper release of checkuser information, I am filing a request for arbitration against you. Please see Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Dmcdevit. John254 03:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
How can someone who made this accusation (without being able to support it with facts): [53] continue to take part in this case ??? Can I get an answer and a decision from ArbCom on this ? Zeq 20:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
How can I get an answer about this and about my request that all evidence will be considered (including the evidence about Zero's deletinons which leave the article POV, removal of sources and off course his extensive edit-wars in articles that I never edited . Thank You. Zeq 07:04, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Jimbo reblocked Jiang after you last comments on Jiang's talk page and hours after the rogue actions. You may also want to see the comments at User talk:Jeffrey O. Gustafson. Since you did the checkuser stuff, you are probably best suited to sort this out. Cheers, NoSeptember 20:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
OMG, PNSD Fix.
TY, HAND! -- Kim Bruning 22:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I actually agree with the principle, but I thought that WP:RM described how I was supposed to do this (and that failing to do so would result in the idea being rejected). Those specifically instruct to use {{ WP:RMtalk}} to start the discussion, and note its present form. -- Random832 22:42, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
This is a sockppupet who edits like Zero: [54]
The diff was sent to me by e-mails from few people. among them are those who told me that they are not going to participate in the arbCom case since they are afraid that speaking out against Zero will cause them to be banned. so you see: people are even afraid to revert a sock pppupet and they send it to me in hope I will..... Zeq 04:02, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
btw, is this removal of sources or not: [55], [56], [57], [58], [59], [60] - surly it is not even an edit-war (after all Zero never edit-war but if he does it is for a good cause) btw, this last edit is similar to the sockppuepet. Zeq 04:04, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I wanted to ask a checkuser a question on procedure. I am being harassed constantly by a never-ending stream of SummerThunder sock puppets (see Wikipedia:Long term abuse/SummerThunder), and I'm wondering if there's any way for a checkuser to look at the unusually large number of "samples" he's provided lately, do a traceroute, determine his ISP, and contact them about the trouble their customer is stirring up. It's getting absolutely ridiculous and needs to be stopped ASAP -- just look at the edit histories at University of California, Riverside, Harvard University, and my Talk page, for starters. I have an updated list of the socks he's used in the last few days going at AIN ( Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#SummerThunder_going_apeshit_.28be_on_the_lookout.29). Thanks for any help or advice you might be able to offer. --Dynaflow 07:00, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I decided to contact you directly about LionheartX since you're the blocking admin for the first sockpuppet of RevolverOcelotX, User:RaGnaRoK SepHír0tH and the admin who proposed community banning him after several instances of ban-circumventing. I consider this strictly an issue of policy enforcement or maybe we should regain community consensus to ban him?-- Certified.Gangsta 19:08, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
[62] Zeq 20:25, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I've heard several complaints about the overly formal structure of RM lately. Perhaps it's time something is done about that? >Radiant< 08:20, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
This user has already broken 3RR ( last stand), displayed unvicil behaviour and instigated rv-warring in his first day of editing [63]. I'm not sure what I should do. Obviously can't report him under 3RR. I think he needs to hear it from someone else other than myself. Miskin 20:44, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
With the incredible amount of vandalism reverts and warnings, I wanted to give Lakers the extra benifit of the doubt. I know Artaxiad is banned. Does Lakers actualy have the same IP address, or what suspicious activity did the account of Lakers do exactly that prove as evidence that he/she is a sock of Artaxiad? I've read Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Artaxiad, but I didn't see where it stated the evidence that Lakers was a sock of Artaxiad.(I sent the same message to Anetode, and he advised me to ask you for a more precise reason for the evidence of Lakers being a sock of Artaxiad.)-- U. S. A. 03:05, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Fred seems to have a personal issue with me.
This accusation is 100% false: [64] he simply does not understand what I wrote and there was clearly no disruption that I caused. but since Fred avoids even the workshop page I can not even discuss it.
Does this whole process seems Fair ? or is it just based on zionost Vs anti-zionist.... ?
cvan I get an answer from you. I trust that you are fair even if your polouitical views are not as mine. Tnx.
btw, is one of the arbitors have a presonal connection to Zero ? Zeq 18:45, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
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i saw you warning Miskin, r u an admin of this site? can you look at Last stand, Miskin undos everyone else's edits which are contrary to his thinking, i counted and he's undone 7 edits of other users in the last two days alone...is unoding users' edits like this allowed? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dharmender6767 ( talk • contribs) 07:20, 11 May 2007 (UTC).
See WP:RFAR#Miskin. Considering you've blocked him before, commentary might be useful. ⇒ SWATJester Denny Crane. 09:06, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, you probably don't remember it, but you moved this article last September to its new location. The article ended speedy deleted by mistake under G4 a few months later. I am wondering if there was any talk page associated with it commenting the title. An editor is willing to rename the article into "The Algerian Genocide". I personally have strong objections, but well I have an obvious POV bias in the subject. Could you stop by, check the probably deleted version and voice your opinion? (Yeah I know, that article should probably go to AfD, but I think it is starting to be more balanced) -- lucasbfr talk 12:49, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Hey dmc, could you do me a favor and semi my talk and user pages for a couple of days? I seem to be getting hit by a disgruntled user. I'd do it myself but I'm leery about protecting my own talk page. -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 00:16, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dmcdevit, you requested to stay informed, so just to let you know that Ararat arev is back on Turkey and Aryan. Cheers, – Riana ऋ 06:04, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
I see you work very hard, Dmcdevit, but I have a question... I must admit I never realized so many anti-Falun Gong editors (Yueyuen, Pirate, etc.) were all sockpuppets (of Samuel / Tomananda)! Can I ask what criteria and evidence this is based on? Jsw663 17:56, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
You claim to have evidence that shows I am a sockpuppet of samuel, this is a absurd. I don't know how you come up with this "evidence" but I demand you to disclose that. -- IamYueyuen 20:49, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Dmcdevit· t Why can you respond to my question? I know you do not have evidences to back your claim because I am not Samuel. This is really unfair banning me for nothing? -- Yueyuen2 01:57, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
You are not responding to my question, you are not providing evidence and yet you claim that I am a sock of Samuel. I hope you know that you are being very wriong and unfair.-- Yueyuen3 19:40, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi DmcDevit, can you provide checkuser on the original account of Retiono Virginian because the account went insane and did page-move vandalism. Please see this.-- Pre ston H (Review Me!) • (Sign Here!) 19:10, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Regarding your move of Kven to Kven people. The move created many double redirects, some of which are protected due to a nasty sock puppet war (see: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Kven). One of the tactics of the now banned user was to create parallel articles under different known and unknown spellings of the word. These have been converted to redirects to Kven. My suggestion is to keep Kven, Kvens, and Kvæn as redirects and delete all others. I am not an administrator so I cannot do it myself. Labongo 17:41, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Koavf has made an appeal of your block; the appeal is located in the clarification section. Thanks! Flcelloguy ( A note?) 21:53, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
I made a few edits to the article Russian language in Ukraine explaining each my edit in comments [66]. Then User:Kuban_kazak reverted my edits without providng any reasons. I tried to restore them, but he reverted again, and again without providing any reasons.
I would like to avoid an edit war. Could you please help me?-- AndriyK 19:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Here is one more example, how this group of users provoke edit wars. (I am not involved in the dispute this time).
Ethnic Russians in Ukraine ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Kuban kazak ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 15:59, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
After his 3rd revert Kuban kazak tried to recruit another edit warrior [70].
The reverts are not literal, but all edits include replacing "Ukraine" with "Little Russia", "Ukrainian" with "Little Russian" etc. (This is a terminology used by Imperial Russia and considered as offensive by many Ukrainians.)-- AndriyK 15:59, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
AndriyK, while I see the reasons why you choose this particular page as a substitute for non-existing Wikipedia:Request to block if you have a content dispute with the user and want to say something, you start from the article's talk rather than make forum shopping the first and only step to ensure you get an article your way. As for your edits, they were rightfully reverted, though not by myself, and if you insist on explanation, I will explain at the article's talk why I would have revetred them. Irpen 19:44, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
No need to go in circles or in ovals. Just make sure you are familiar well enough with the AGF policy itself before citing it as per my advise above. And best yet, avoid patronizingly invoking policies except to newbies and stay on topic. That's all. -- Irpen 08:04, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
First Kuban kazak was edit warring reinserting the same derogatory stuff about Ukrainian language [71]. Then after he did three ... well, not exactly reverts but very similar edits he asked for help from his friends [72], [73]. One of them came and reverted [74]. As I promiced, I did not revert again, but tried to as him about the reason of his revert [75]. And this was the answer: [76]. What can I be done to resolve the dispute, if these people do not want even discuss?-- AndriyK 17:12, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | ||
As you were the first person who exposed Samuel Luo's egregious sockpuppetry that went unnoticed for an entire year, I, Olaf Stephanos, award you this barnstar. |
Thanks a lot for clearing my name of this groundless accusation by running the checkuser. I am ready to provide additional evidence in private, if necessary, that I do not have sockpuppets and that I do discuss all my edits on all pages I edit. My accusers, mainly User:Vartanm and User:MarshallBagramyan are the two users constantly edit warring and taking advantage of the fact of being left out of ArbCom. I am the subject of their attack for a simple reason, I have never violated any rule since the ArbCom decision, while many of the other users got one or more blocks of varying length. You may want to check their edit warring history, and I think both must be placed on the revert parole through ArbCom. Their editting pattern is not at all any different from those who were banned or restricted on either side. Atabek 16:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dmc - could you please verify if User:213.122.29.63 is user:Indian50? This user is edit-warring on Punjab (India) and Gujarati grammar and may be socking to harass user:Tuncrypt. Rama's arrow (just a sexy boy) 01:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Since you left a message on my talk page I felt, I could address you directly. I did try to follow your advice in regards to dealing with User:Kuban Cossack but he is absolutely impossible to work with. Vindictive and petty, clinging to every little thing and unwilling to compromise over anything. I spent two days over definitions of Little Russian with him, and when it seemed we agreed on something, here he wakes up again and goes on revet rampage, destroying not only hours of my work but contributions of other editors. I suggested we talk first, he however, prefers to revet instead. The article was protected already, nothing seems to be working. We need intervention and some kind of control over what he is doing. Thank you.-- Hillock65 21:03, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
This seems a pretty obvious case. Worth a check?
Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I thought my RfA entered some bizarre parallel dimension before you came in and helped sort things out. I'd actually got a private email about the very issue before you went in. Thanks ever so much, I hope to become such an effecting Admin in the future. All the best. -- Bobak 00:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I won't really object if another arbitrator wants to add that into the case, but I don't really see the benefit. They obviously won't be edit-warring in the future, and I think sending an unambiguous message that such attempts to screw around with the arbitration process won't be tolerated—pour encourager les autres—is more important than trying to clean up the loose ends here. Kirill Lokshin 05:30, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dmcdevit. Regarding VK35 ( talk · contribs) and RFCU, see this (sorry for the essay-like length). I wasn't sure if I had notified you of this yet, or if you had otherwise become aware of it. I think the unblock is unwise but perhaps somewhat justifiable, but I particularly think allowing VK35 to resume RFCU clerk duties under the circumstances is a mistake. · jersyko talk 18:08, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Thank you very much for running a CheckUser on Molag Bal today. We had a long talk with him on IRC, and he keeps claiming he'll stop making accounts, but we know he's not going to do that. I guess this thank you will be for the CUs done now, and in the future :P. Nishkid64 ( talk) 23:55, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, your archives were rather messed up by this helpful chap - [83]. I think we've managed to get everything back into the right place but you might want to double check... WjB scribe 04:03, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
On User talk:Springbob Squirepants it appears that user may have been caught up in a checkuser block set by yourself, just letting you know in case anything needs to be done. Thanks :) Orderinchaos 13:58, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
See the page Hindu_iconography. Now see Idolatry. The page starts out "Idolatry is a major sin", with the implication now that Hindus are sinners. I have no need to assume good faith with this ideological warrior. Also, I've noticed blnguyen regards this user as a troll, as does pretty much every other Indian user, I'm merely following an established train of thought. Thank you. Baka man 19:36, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dmcdevit - FYI, that really was some very effective trolling by User:Anwar saadat. I'm not defending Bakasuprman's response, but I do want you to be aware that Anwar saadat vandalized Bakasuprman's userpage recently by adding a fake sockpuppet tag [85]. Regarding Anwar Saadat's edit, idol-worship "is the only sin that cannot be forgiven by God" according to Islam (see Idolatry article). For a Muslim to add that to the Hinduism article was quite clearly not a good faith edit. The reason I came across this is that the next edit at Hinduism after Bakasuprman's revert was this gem: "The largely pastoral Vedic people and subsequent generations relied heavily on raping monkeys and killing children for protein-rich milk and dairy products" [86] by brand-new user User:Mattskills. When the article about your religion is the victim of regular hate-attacks by members of other religions, a lack of patience in response is sometimes understandable. ॐ Priyanath talk 00:32, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I have a question on the article on Nupedia, why the logo picture cannot be changed size? Thanks! Wooyi Talk to me? 19:42, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Oi vey. If you could put Price-Anderson Nuclear Industries Indemnity Act on your watchlist, I'd be appreciative. Ben Gatti (who is still under general probation) is at it again. That proposed open defines POV. -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 15:58, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Not that Confucius and Thoreau are bad, but Laozi and Zhuangze really do embody the whole Wikipedia experience. Go back to your copy of The Inner Chapters and look at the Accord That Reaches All The Way To Heaven and tell me if that shouldn't be required reading for all Wikipedians. Elijahmeeks 16:31, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
I saw you gave the following: I agree that accusations of bad faith, and calling others trolls, is a particularly unwarranted and needs to stop in order for the content negotiations to be fruitful. In theory, the response refused or failed mediation is WP:RFAr, for cases that don't require obvious fixes like admin blocks. I'm not sure there is much administrators can do here: our technical tools are blunt. I can block someone, but for problems like assumptions of bad faith in a certain content dispute for an otherwise productive editor, that is not likely to be a net gain for the project. Administrators (because of the limitation of this being a website) don't really have many options outside that, besides persuasion. Perhaps arbitration is the way to go, if it continues. Arbitration isn't just for bans, but is designed to be able to handle targeted solutions for specific problems, like assumptions of bad faith. Dmcdevit·t 00:47, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate the fact that admins are somewhat powerless in this matter. It is what it is. Bad behavior, even if not appreciated is accepted or tolerated. I am tired of working in good faith to try to improve wikipedia, when all someone has to do is be a bully. I came to the article in question with no agenda but to improve an article that is soon going to be getting lots of attention. I wanted it to be well constructed. Despite my good intentions, I am abused -- even when I have not been "bold" in editing -- and despite seeking discussion first. Other people concede that the other editor is a bully and one person suggests that this is a sockpuppet of an editor already banned for abusive edit warring. Yet, no one will take that person aside or in hand to correct the behavior. I am exceptionally busy in real life. I have substantial obligations and my time is extremely valuable and expensive. It is difficult justify spending my time in fights with vain people and in a system that lets the bully win, contrary to what wikipedia states its purpose to be. I am not currently in a frame of mind nor can I justify the time to fight for what I consider to be right. But you have a position and longevity with wikipedia to consider these issues and I encourage you to do so. If these things are viewed as trivial nuisances -- not very disruptive -- then that is how it is. I can accept that. I tend to read it as a systemic rejection of my edits and values -- that in essence I am the problem; I do not fit in here. I do not have a clear vision of how I can be very productive in such a system. But I appreciate your attention to my complaint. It was more than I got from most folks. Regards... -- Blue Tie 17:28, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Dmcdevit, although I respectfully but strongly disagree with your characterization of my editing history, I continue to assume your good faith, please assume my good faith. I apologize to Blue Tie for anything I have said in the past which may have been taken as hurtful, unfair or unhelpful.
Only to provide some context and background, I was initiated as a Wikipedia editor in the Sollog wars, wherein I was encouraged and (I thought strongly) reinforced for an aggressive and confrontational editing style. I had no notion that the Sollog article was rather a fluke and not very typical of how Wikipedia wontedly works. About two years ago, I engaged in that editing style whilst dealing with another problematic editor (who is still under sundry probations and topical bans) and to make a very, very long tale very short, it blew back in my face (so to speak) mostly because of my own lack of understanding about Wikipedia and what makes it work. Since then, I have not very often, but often enough I guess, still been too confrontational with editors whom I thought weren't making edits according to my own interpretations of good faith, WP policy and so on. This has been my botch and mine alone, even if it was in good faith.
I encourage Blue Tie to not let this episode discourage him from expressing any worries he may have about content anywhere on this wiki. I am willing to edit cooperatively with Blue Tie and will assume Blue Tie's good faith. Blue Tie, I'm so sorry. Please let me try to fix any harm I have done. Cheers to you both. Gwen Gale 23:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Dmcdevit, I think what we have here is a conflict between communication styles. Gwen Gale is direct and to the point, at times to a flaw. You may call this aggressive. From what I've seen (the above being no exception) Blue Tie is wordy and wearisome, revisiting the same points ad nauseum. I might call this passive-aggressive. I see no attempt to resolve any active dispute - indeed, is there an active dispute? - but droning on and on about his victimization at the hands of "bullies" in order to get Gwen Gale in trouble. I'd be very reluctant to privilege Blue Tie's style of engagement, which speaking very subjectively I find borderline trollish. Calling someone a bully is a personal attack every bit as much as is calling someone a troll. Whining about someone on ANI, and keeping the dispute going for weeks thereafter (what is this about again?) isn't civil.
Re you statement, "Sooner or later, Gwen Gale needs to be at arbitration..." My understanding was that Arbitration is (at least in theory) not a way to target particular editors, but to resolve particular disputes. The idea that "Gwen Gale needs to be at arbitration" thus strikes me one relative to which Blue Tie might be viewed as a stalking horse. Disputes are to be resolved wherever possible, not seized upon as arbitrary opportunities to pursue preexisting conflicts. The fact is that the situation between Gwen Gale and Blue tie has nothing whatsover to do with the previous arbitration case,
It is also inaccurate to state that Gwen Gale is "...using a new identity to evade the previous arbitration...," as this identity was known to at least one member of the committee, and she's not used it to violate the topical ban. Instead we see Gwen Gale contributing productively to Lisa Nowak, Mountain Meadows massacre (to which it is indeed at least worth asking if she were not wikistalked by Blue Tie) and a wide range of other topics and articles. One editor restricted by that arbitration, User:Onefortyone, has clearly not moved on, his userpage is dedicated to that sole obsession of outing celebrities as gay, and he has accrued several actions related to the arbitration. Your focus on Gwen Gale, then, again seems misplaced.
Finally, I would like to address the question of your and Thatcher131's reference to former usernames. From our harassment policy: "Posting another person's personal information (legal name..) .is harassment, unless that editor voluntarily provides or links to such information himself or herself....it also applies in the case of editors who have requested a change in username..." Though Gwen Gale has not complained, this policy seems to me, as it is currently written, quite clear. Harassment is a strong word, and naturally something we should avoid.
If Blue Tie considers that there is an active dispute which he's unsuccesfully tried to resolve, nothing prevents him from opening an RfC. That might provide an excellent opportunity to gauge community sentiment and suggest a way forward for both parties. However, as Gwen Gale's latest comments are far more conciliatory than they should really have to be, I cannot see that it would be credible to claim that Gwen Gale is being uncooperative, unresponsive or unwilling to address your concern. Mediation - if not just dropping this pointless thread and moving on - thus seems the more appropriate step. Proabivouac 22:07, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
-- Smee 20:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
After coming up with User:Simul8 on the WP:SSP/Newport, I think you should also check out User:Holdenhurst and User:Osidge, who definitely contribute almost exclusively on CfDs and AfDs where the other participate, usually with identical reasons. Bulldog123 07:02, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Here is a good candidate for edit warrior title: Dahn ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). See his block log.
one of his endless edit war on a hot article
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Valter_Roman&action=history
I'm a polish user. This does not hide the fact that Dahn was blocked before for 3RR.
Oi. -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 02:21, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
...is requested in clarifying here your wording in your indef block for Dharmender6767, especially concerning the word "obvious". Thanks. Niko Silver 09:25, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Is the 'inappropriate content' you removed still there, or has it been oversighted? If it's been oversighted, could the history be restored again now? (I was checking the page - last week's article - to help with this week's article, and went into the history to revert vandalism, and found that most of the early history was missing; it may be needed for GFDL compliance if it can be undeleted without too much trouble, or there are other possibilities if it can't be.)
I've replied your concerns on my commons RFA, thanks for voting! Wooyi Talk to me? 01:29, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Dmc, can you answer my Email regarding Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Kermanshahi? Thanks in advance Alex Bakharev 03:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
While I think I understand your reasoning, quite a few of those categories have gone through WP:CFD/ WP:UCFD, so I would think a group nomination for discussion would be preferrable? - jc37 08:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I gave a sound reasoning in the deletion summary. I'm not interested in UCFD nominations just for the sake of process fetishism. Which ones do you actually disagree with? We can talk about them. Dmcdevit· t 17:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
It's not "process fetishism", it's preventing disruption, it's following policy. Mass deleting categories which have been known in the past to be contentious is disruptive, and according to WP:CSD:
And as I noted above, according to Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Non-criteria:
And so far, the rationale you left on most of the deletions:
simply does not qualify for speedy deletion based on the above.
So actually, the onus is on you to show why you should be able to speedy these cats.
As an aside, I'm going to revert your attempt to bypass discussion at WP:UCFD, and reopen the discussions, for the reasons above, and because there is simply no reason to be so impatient as to not allow a 5 day discussion. (I don't see WP:BLP or WP:COPYVIO concerns which might indicate such urgency.) - jc37 19:33, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
(dedent) Jc37, I sympathize with you. Process is useful (sounds like a good essay title). It helps ensure consistency and avoid needless conflicts. At the same time, process is not absolute. It is a bad idea to do things solely for the sake of process. For example, if you want to block/unblock/delete/undelete, etc. it should be because you believe that the action is objectively the right outcome, and not solely because you are concerned with how some previous action was performed. Would it have been better if Dmcdevit had started a conversation about this beforehand? Yes, I think it would have been. There doesn't appear to be any urgency here, and writing out a group CFD could have covered this easily enough while letting the community share in the decision. (Bad Dmcdevit, no cookie for you.) But unless you believe the outcome would have or should be different then the issue is largely academic. Aside from arguably setting a bad example, do you see Dmcdevit's actions as actually having harmed something? Dragons flight 22:13, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I believe I do, and the link reinforces that, but I think you may have missed it, or perhaps misunderstood what I was attempting to convey. By merely saying that "The intent of the policy is that Wikipedia remain an encyclopedia" begs the question. Of course that's the intent of policy in general. The whole point of having WP:NOT is to help with that (which includes the statement about advocacy). But what constitutes "advocacy" or any of the other "not" criteria can be considered subjective, and should be determined by Consensus. WP:CSD reinforces that by saying that WP:NOT reasons are not valid reasons to speedily delete something. While discussing the "spirit of the law", do you understand why WP:NOT are not valid reasons to speedily delete something? What the reasons behind the policy are? Wikipedia is not a battleground? Well, that's partially one reason. But if one reads Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Reasoning behind NPOV, perhaps one may get a better idea. An additional clue may be found in Wikipedia:Assume the presence of a belly-button.
As for the rest:
If you've been actually discussing, rather than just stating how right the deletions were based on content and how you refuse to undelete, or discuss anything, except concerning content, (or making personal "suggestions" about me, my priorities, and how I should spend my volunteer time aiding the Wikipedia project), I've missed it. Though I would be happy to be corrected on this.
No, I wasn't claiming that "the other people commenting in the DRV are unwikipedian as well". Though there have been, and are, discussions about how WP:DRV has been used quite a bit lately to just try/retry XfD discussions, rather than be about the process (which is the intent explained on WP:DRV). But that's a whole other discussion, and not worth getting sidetracked with here.
And yes, I think you've made your stance rather clear, You're focused so much on the content you don't see (or don't care about) the rest. This leaves me with several options, including the ones I listed above.
My choice?
Shrugs.
User:Dragons flight's post above actually allayed most of my concerns. I could be mistaken, but I think one indirect result of this "discussion" has been that additional action (and therefore the potential for disruption, or worse, "wheel-warring) has been minimised. At this stage, I've mostly just been attempting to re-clarify, in the hopes you may understand, as well as responding to your "rhetoric" and accusations. And there comes a point where that becomes pointless. (Though I learned that long before Wikipedia, I've learned it mostly in this venue by periodic reading of JustZisGuy's talk page. Fascinating stuff, it's amazing he stays sane : )
Do I think you're a bad editor or a bad admin? No, not really. I think you just made a mistake in haste in how you chose to apply an action. (I think that you, too, have a belly button : ) - The lack of research, and the application of WP:BRD applied to deletion (while refusing the "RD" potion), are both concerning, but I will at this time be quite content to presume that it's not something you would do again in the same way.
As for the categories themselves, personally, as I've stated many times before today, I've been "on-the-fence" about the "support/oppose" categories for a long time. Hence my "neutral" stance. One one hand, there is User:Jimbo Wales' comment about them (which I agree with), but on the other is the most common argument for their retention: Having them shows interest in related topic articles on the encyclopedia, and therefore helps foster collaboration between those of similar interest (which I also agree with). And needless to say, there are infinitely more sub-interests than WikiProjects can encompass. Hence, I'm on-the-fence.
And finally, if you're bored, or find you have the time or inclination, feel free to take a moment and read through the "Pages worth reading" listed at the top of my talk page (and "references" on my user page). They've been there awhile. I found them interesting and useful, perhaps you will as well.
And in case that it wasn't clear enough, I'm going to treat your last comment (despite it's possible appearance otherwise) as a good faith "suggestion" to disengage. Sounds like a good idea to me too.
Anyway, I do hope that you're having a good day : ) - jc37 10:13, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
I was startled to discover your large-scale deletion of political/social issues categories for Wikipedians. While I can understand your reasoning, I'd like to know--was there any discussion or deletion debate about it before you acted? K. Lásztocska 14:39, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Whole lot of categories deleted by User:Dmcdevit. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. The Evil Spartan 18:18, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Dmcdevit, my broadband ISP assigns static, global IP addresses. My address was recently changed due to a Verizon ATM backhaul change, and I apparently inherited an IP address that you had previously blocked as a zombie. How can I convince you that I am a tangible person with good Wikipedia manners?
Robfollett 03:00, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
You appear to have re-deleted this category, after it was restored by another admin... You suggest a DRV, however the first step prior to a DRV is to contact the admin who deleted it. The category was deleted after at least two "keep" decisions, and did not meet any speedy criteria... The deleting admin, User:Shanel acknowledged this, and stated he/she would be fine with it being restored ("Feel free to revert me or create said category if you wish, or whatever else you'd like to do."). As such, it should _not_ go to DRV, and the matter should be considered closed... And, as such, could you please take the time to undelete it again? Thanks, Bushytails 05:41, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
In response to 'why is it useful', there are furry-centric articles (mostly comics, unless there's a film or two in there) whose continual improvement drives would be served by asking one or more users in Category:Furry Wikipedians. Bl a st [ improve me 06.06.07 0416 (UTC)
For what it's worth, maybe categories like this would be more helpful (and understandable) if they were in the project space, rather than the encyclopedia. Gwen Gale 19:01, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello Dmcdevit. I seem to disagree with the reasons you cited for deleting this category and I think that it should have been brought to WP:CFD. Please comment. Best regards, Hús ö nd 14:59, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Can you please, check the Safavid dynasty please [88]. Banned User:Tajik is using numerous socks and has launched a very heavy revert war, not even discussing his edits. I also requested a semi-protection of the page. Thanks. Atabek 20:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
OMG, of course my IP is NRW (Nordrhein-Westfalen) and Hessen, because I live in that area (check Dortmund), along with 24 million (!) other people. I have already explained in the talk page that I am living in Germany and that I have studied in Munich. I guess everyone who lives in Germany and is interested in the Safavid dynatsy must be "Tajik". It is laughable that the admins of Wikipedia do not even dare to read what the users write in the articles. I have spent more than 3 hours today to check spellings and to clean up an article that is totally messed up by months of extensive edit-warring. Just take a look at Atabek's revert: [91] All I did was correcting the spelling, correcting grammar, and so forth. I have neither deleted information, nor added anything controversial. This fake politeness of Wikipedia's admins and the rude and unconstructive attitude of many Wikipedias is the reason I do not want to sign up and to create an account. I am not interested in this silly community, in which constructive work and good faith are not respected. Atabek has reverted all of my edits, yet, he himself has not spent one single minute to clean up the article. 99% of his edits are reverts, nationalistically motivated POV, and in talk pages, he is accusing and insulting others. Honestly, I am not surprised that the admin quickly blocked the page and that Atabek quickly reverted to a messed up version. This is the policy of Wikipedia, and the reason why Wikipedia is still not accepted as a reliable encyclopedia. As I have said before: I really do not care. I was just trying to help by doing something that self-proclaimed experts such as Atabek do not feel responsible for: cleaning up an article. And it does not surprise me that Atabek is not punished by the admins, although he has violated the 1 revert per week rule, since my edits were neither vandalism nor edit-warring. Meanwhile, I have spent another 30 minutes to clean up another section of the article. See [92]. But unfortunately, I cannot update the page because it is protected. As I have already explained, Wikipedia's silly community is not interested in constructive works and good faith edits. Atabek is the best example.
Hi,
I did not think I would have to bother you at all and not so soon but here we go again:
Sorry, Zeq 20:54, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
sorry to bother you again - please see this: [94]. I am at loss at why I am being attcked by Zero and others. The article I created seems to already exist elsewhere so a merge and redirect may have been in order (if I would have known) but clearly the content is proven to be encyclopedic since part of it is already in wikipedia for a long time. (I focused on the use of the expression while another article pointed out the Quranic roots of the expression) Zeq 16:25, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Could you check 89.137.109.169 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) - clearly Bonny, but unlike other of his IPs it doesn't look much like an open proxy, and it is in Romania. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:19, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Could you take a look? It's a checkuser block you've placed and the user is offering $1000 for any proof that a vandal has been operating from the address...could be lucrative. ;-) Thanks, - auburnpilot talk 00:08, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dmc, is there any chance of an CU request? It's just that I blocked the above user for trolling RFCN, then User:TortureIsBad turns up and vandalises my userpage and H's userpage. TortureIsWrong emailed me explicitly saying that was not him, and he does not want to be associated with that petty vandalism, I'm actually inclined to believe him. Ryan Postlethwaite 15:17, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Despite this, there was this and this followed by this. Just in case you missed it - hope someone is checking the work. Tvoz | talk 17:29, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
...and you know why ;-). Miranda 22:57, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
72.181.82.57 ( talk · contribs), IP redirects to Texas. Baka man 06:18, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
If you are not aware Category:Wikipedians who support the LGBT community was re-created.-- Jorfer 04:04, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
July 10 last year you deleted this image with the summary it had the same name on the commons. The link is now broken with no trace of any such image on the commons. Where did it go? - Mgm| (talk) 12:11, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
I want to know why my IP address was blocked. I do have an account, I just don't feel like logging in everytime I want to correct a minor misspelling (I occasionally use my account, I just prefer anonymous editing, is that wrong?). How did I abuse my IP address? I never vandalized any articles and I think it's unfair that I get blocked without any explanation. Let's see if we can work something out. I can understand you'd want to keep trouble makers out of Wikipedia (trust me, I hate them too), but I assure you I am not one of them. Hurricane Andrew 14:56, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I'll keep this short. Could you reconsider your recent RFAR request, giving the new process a chance? I would that perhaps we can assist these two, and they could add good content. In the interest of the project. Thanks, Navou banter / contribs 15:50, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Whatever you did, it seems to have stopped him cold. Thanks very much for handling that. Seraphimblade Talk to me 01:12, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
The Working Man's Barnstar | ||
For your seemingly tireless efforts in improving Wikipedia, I, Khoikhoi, award you this barnstar. 02:55, 4 April 2007 (UTC) |
Oh, and Ararat arev is back on Armenia under the following IPs:
Ciao, Khoi khoi 02:55, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I am one of the editors who first had to deal with this user over five months ago. Quite simply, no power on earth will ever stop him from adding his material rabidly if the semiprotection is removed. He's already returned once again just after you unprotected it. You might want to put it back. Thanatosimii 05:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Could you please check the activity of 72.18.138.210 ( talk · contribs). He has been edit warring on some pages, deleting content added by other users and ignoring talk, and has previous warnings from admins about his actions being vandalism. Regards, Grandmaster 05:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/E104421-Tajik. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/E104421-Tajik/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/E104421-Tajik/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 12:35, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of List of abbreviations for names. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. — Swpb talk contribs 12:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I think that the decision to block this user was a bit premature. The cited reverts in the 3RR were for undoing POV vandalism POV pushing (this last resulted in the page being fully protected). The 300 article's edit page - in an effort to maintain stability, requested that users bring their proposed changes to the Discussion Page first. This request was also meant to build consensus for changes in the article, and cut down on edit warring. Benhams's edits were not of the tendentious sort, and were actually constructive.
Benham has been harassed by User:Agha Nader, whom he apparently knows in RL. After looking at the edit histories of both, I do see a tendency of Nader to follow Benham around, contesting his edits. I never believed in cabals, and for the most part still don't, but I have noticed - at least in the 300 article a definite, overtly cooperative effort to maintain a pro-nationalist sentiment within the article. Both ArmenianJoe and Agha Nader (and a few others, such as Khoikoi, Azerbaijani and Mardavich) seem to work in very close coordination of effort, via external email (fully aware that any conversation within talk will be recorded). While of course there are no cabals, the best of these "non-cabals" maintain a NPOV to work towards a better article; that is not occurring with the aforementioned users. They work to undo edits that that challenges their nationalist view, and to discredit and remove those editors who disagree consistently with this view. Often this view fiolates one or more of the Five Pillars. After viewing the ArbCom you are part of, I am pretty sure you know what I am talking about here.
Benham has clearly angered this group, and you can see that the edits he reverted were non-consensus edits that served solely to push a POV that was in the specific minority in the article. If you cannot see your way to removing the block after evaluating the environment in which Benham was editing in, perhaps you could lessen the length of the block. Typically, a first block lasts for 8 hours. Benham has not received that same consideration that any other user would have for 3RR on non edit-warring edits.
Arcayne 16:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
As I said before, you can address these issues on my talk page, so long as you remain polite. That you are posting it here simply suggests that you are cheaply trying to complain to this user. As for the comment, I have already clearly answered you there; the comment was not directed at you, and I am quite certain that your time would be far better spendt not stalking my user history or talk pages. After this post, you can write all you want - I am not going to take up another inch of this user's talk page. Arcayne 11:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I made a bad call there. Another admin who is involved with the article contacted me and I reduced the block to three hours last night. However, you're right and I should not have blocked them in haste as I did. I will immediately apologise to that editor. I'm only a 2-week newb admin but I should have known better and slipped up on this one. AIV was kinda busy last night! - Alison ☺ 16:52, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
After my recent block I realize that your edict at Azerbaijan (Iran) is essentially a zero revert rule. I don't know if such a rule has legitimacy on WP as an alternative to protection but I ask that you implement protection instead. If people want to add something they can just use the formal request template on the talk page. On the other hand, 0RR allows things to be added but never removed, and may encourage sockpuppetry. Full protection seems to be a better, WP-endorsed mechanism for freezing edit wars, so I ask you do please use full protection there instead of 0RR. Thank you. The Behnam 10:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
-- howcheng { chat} 06:08, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi,
Response now available there. If you'd prefer to talk the discussion to any particular talk page, that's fine with me. Best wishes, Xoloz 00:04, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
This kind of looks like he is evading his ban, [3] and the revert by the IP are the same, [4] Artaxiad 09:01, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
According to the block log, he is blocked for two months for using suckpuppets. See link. -- Thus Spake Anittas 19:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser&oldid=87046132#William_Mauco
This anon user seems to be having some difficulty working with others ( 1, 2 and is often uncivil ( 1). The user has a short but unhappy history within the WP community. Usually, one can find at least one or two positive edits that a user has made. Unfortunately (and surprisingly), this user has none. What might we be able to offer the editing community in the way of protection from this user? - Arcayne (cast a spell) 14:21, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Can you check this case out? This is a really big sock case. Kingjeff 04:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure that you made an accurate assesment of the case? Can you please recheck them? Kingjeff 20:47, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
If you look here and here, then you'll see evidence of an evasion of a ban. Here is a giveaway for IP Address 81.211.198.6. Kingjeff 21:57, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Just to be clear, I assume that TropicNord ( talk · contribs) is not a confirmed Arthur Ellis Sock? I just want to verify before I fulfill the requested removal of tags from his/her userspace. Thanks!-- Isotope23 16:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dmcdevit, I need your help. REDVERS, one of the Administrators that is working with the Fellowship of Friends page, left me the following message:
I wrote to REDVERS but he didn't reply to me. Do you know how can I find out who the sock pupeteers are based on this and this? Thanks a lot! Mario Fantoni 18:12, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Did you check Xmas1973 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) and John Smith's ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)? The IP shows as in the UK, which I know John Smith is from. If they are connected this would be a 3RR vio. Thanks. Giovanni33 04:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
againstI do have a question. Dmcdevit, did you check where there is any relation between the anon IP 209.160.65.68 and User:VietFire? John Smith's 15:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks for being the voice of reason with your comments on Zeq's talk page. I reiterate that I am not, as he claims, involved in any content dispute with him, and in fact, am trying to spare newer admins what I and others have gone through; to ensure that all the work that went into the arbitration case was not for naught. Also, I am sorry about the slight unpleasentness we've had in the past over this. Regards, El_C 07:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
User is complaining so I took the liberty of starting a thread here to endorse your block (which was past due, IMHO). -- bainer ( talk) 14:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I came across Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Matthead where a user wonders what does Possible mean. I must admit I am a bit lost myself on the different templates you CU use to answer the cases. I started a discussion some time ago on the clerk noticeboard on the meaning of all these. What do you think of expanding the Indicator page to emphasize a bit more the answers? -- lucasbfr talk 15:50, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Please check recent contribs of User:Azerbaijani. He is waging a slow revert war. Just today he reverted 3 pages. See: [5] [6] Here he reverted the page: [7] To this version: [8] And this edit [9] is a partial revert, as he deleted the following line under a guise of adding info: However, official reports from international organizations, such as the leading human rights organization in the European Community, the Council of Europe, paint a favorable picture.
Entitlement to 1 revert per week does not mean that he should go around and revert the pages once a week, he makes no attempt to reach a compromise with other editors or try a dispute resolution. Grandmaster 20:00, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering if you would like to look into this case. Artaxiad seems to be still editing: [10]. He says he wont stop. -- Cat chi? 11:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the very prompt and efficient reply to the request. TropicNord
Arbcom rulings are prescriptive, though, which is what we're talking about, and which isn't a small point. Just so you know, the problem Zero is getting at is the problem you have any time one person writes and interprets the same text. Let's say you wrote the ruling poorly; is that something you're going to be as ready to admit as a third party? Beyond that, are you going to be as perceptive to ambiguities in your text? I don't know that it's anything to inform arbcom about, but I do think it's something for you to consider.
My point here, in any case, is simply that a misreading of an ambiguously worded arbcom ruling isn't the time to resort to harsh sanctions against a guy who has been contributing extremely productively here for some three years. Just a thought. Mackan79 06:55, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Just to inform you, not long ago on the Admins noticeboard, a pretty serious allegation was made against you regarding possible abuse of your Checkuser privileges. Whether you reply or not is up to you, but I'm sure you would want to provide your point of view. Just passing on the message. Harryboyles 13:02, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Can you protect the page? 3RR against user Alaexis ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) He was blocked before 2 days ago for 3RR.-- M-renewal 13:58, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
An uninvolved user has posted to WP:AN requesting a review of your 48-hour block of User:The Benham. I see some mitigating circumstances, while two other admins (one on AN and one on the user's talkpage) have agreed with the block. Your input at AN is requested. Regards, Newyorkbrad 23:04, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
This block is being discussed on WP:AN#Request Admin Second Opinion on Unblock Request for User:The Behnam. At least two editors have supported an unblock. Your comments would be welcome. DES (talk) 23:05, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
A case you commented has been filed an ArbCom request by me, on Wikipedia:Requests for Arbitration#Transnistria, please go take a look, thank you! Wooyi Talk, Editor review 02:19, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
It looks like you have been engaging in edit warring at Iranian women. Please be aware that User:The Behnam has just been blocked for this, and the same will happen to you if it continues. You need to read WP:DR and follow the non-confrontational processes outlined there for resolvin the conflict. Thanks. Dmcdevit· t 07:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey look! ParthianShot tried DR right with his next edit [12]! The Behnam 14:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
That was a refreshing read. Btw, Slrubenstein introduced me to a recent essay of his today which you may be interested to review. Regards, El_C 10:20, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I see a lot of the accounts listed were not blocked (the later ones), were they unrelated, or was just burntsauce unrelated? SirFozzie 19:53, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
User:209.217.67.146 is requesting unblock. I have contacted you, as in guideance with our procedures. Part Deux 21:02, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Thankyou for offering to assist in the investigation. I shall be in touch shortly to discuss any issues. Feel free to provide an email address to cartmanau-at-gmail.com if you wish it to remain private - Cartman02au 07:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
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Hello,
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Zeq-Zero0000. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Zeq-Zero0000/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Zeq-Zero0000/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, David Mestel( Talk) 19:36, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
If I tell you that I want to see a better encyclopedia ?
I know you think I am hopeless, and quite honestly I can see why.
However, most articles from which I was banned (even for a year) have all had continued edit-war without me.
I did not receive 8 blocks for editwars. Some of my blocks were on nonsense like I left a message on few people talk page asking them to participate in an admin vote. That was enough for a young admin to block me (twice - once more fro asking to be unblocked) . That admin has later given up his adminship on the ground that he realize he is not mature enough (he is only a kid)
Anyhow, Wikipedia is missing amechanism to ensure NPOV and lack of edit wars on issues such as the ME articles. People like my self, Zero and Ian could never agree without a 3rd party activly mediating. Just banning me from articles I had conflict with Zero Palestinian Exodus and the 1948 war has done nothing Zero continued the POV pushing and edit war with others. This is endless and this is not just a personal issue but also a process issue.
as you can see I don't have problem to admit my guilt (in places where I am guilty) but I do want to move beyond guilt to find a process that can work. Just blocking the Pro_israel side of the POV and doing nothing to the anti-israel side of the POV is not a way to get to NPOV.
Best regards, Zeq 19:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
"one of the best ways to work to improve the encyclopedia rather than to promote your POV is to avoid contentious topics that excite you enough to cause such hostile editing tactics."
Best, Zeq 10:15, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
MedianLady ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Possible sock puppet and/or sock puppet of another user looking to stir up trouble [13]. May be a backslashing open proxy. [14] Thatcher131 20:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I found that you have declined the cases on Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Pens withdrawn. My request is to run a checkuser for the my userid and check whether these users are sockpuppet of mine. It is clear from my evidences that these users are not in my IP domain and there is no reason to put them under my user id. Ptu them int appropriate places. Not under my user id. As the request says the checkuser was for the "Pens withdrawn" and all the users are put under my id!! --- Sundaram7 07:32, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
It wasnt so much as a sockpuppet abuse, this user used his IP address AND his account to post on it. If I nominated him in the wrong place, please direct me to the correct location. I remember reading somewhere that this could be done, so I gave it a shot. Thanks DietLimeCola 07:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
This user is practically asking for a ban. See here: [16] [17] Click on the links there to see his personal attacks. He is making it very clear that he knows that he is personally attacking me and that he doesnt care whether he has to face the consequences. This is coming from a user that just got out of an Arbcom. I'm sick of his personal attacks, and I think he should be banned for a period of one year for these attacks (thats my opinion, I'll leave the actual decision to you guys). Azerbaijani 03:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't know why this revert was made [18] without any discussion. He also reverted all the changes I made yesterday, back to back within a minute so either he's a speed reader or he did not read any comments or content.
I made a direct appeal on his talk page , on the article talk page, and on my edit summary on why the change was made [ [19]] , alas.
He claims Primary Sources are completely out per WP:NOR. But I provided three sources which is acceptable per WP:NOR, and WP says they're even encouraged.
What did I do wrong that warranted a revert from an admin. And he won't discuss anything with me, nor does he comment the edit summary.
I am asking you for help because, if I ask anyone else for anything, I get blocked.
So, please, I really need to know what I am doing wrong here. Thanks. -- Oguz1 14:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Transnistria. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Transnistria/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Transnistria/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, David Mestel( Talk) 22:09, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I still don't appreciate users harassments theres other interwikis. Ashkani 03:44, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the comment on the talk page. I think we can reach a relative stability there with my last edit. I think it also reflects the bbc reference well. deniz T C 00:32, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
I disagree with you this time, anyway I am quite busy, I should possibly take a break. deniz T C 21:51, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Your input might be helpful on an unblock request at User_talk:Megaversal. Regards, Newyorkbrad 20:58, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
User:Dmcdevit says: You have multiple reverts at this article since its unprotection with no edits to the talk page at all. You were just blocked for edit warring there. Please stop continuing the current edit war, and intead work the problem out by discussing it. If the edit war continues it may be dealt with by blocks. Dmcdevit·t 20:55, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
These are six edits and summaries of all the editions (more than three months) by me from 12 "January" 2007. My summaries:
Regarding "no edits to the talk page," I'm the one who asked the use of talk page and inspide of the other users gave an extensive reasoning, which the respond never solidified. I would appreciate if, you follow this link and see the response and how the introduiction section should be shaped.
Could you please be more specific; especially why do you feel the need to threaten me?? It is hard to understand the reasons of me being targatted.?? Thanks. -- OttomanReference 00:00, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Also regarding the blockage: Besides the fact that I have never been in the 3RR, there has never been a warning by Admin user:Cbrown1023. This can be easily recognized if you follow my talk page. The Admin User:Thatcher131 tried to war me about the 3thr revert but I was blocked by then.
While asking me to discuss the content of the introduction section; and giving me a warning not to edit the page; The introduction section has been removed not just a single sentence but two paragraphs [26] without any discussion at the talk page [27]. I just do not get your position. Thanks. -- OttomanReference 02:37, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I suspect that Pam55 ( talk · contribs) is a sock account. Please check his contributions, he only turns up occasionally to revert Iran related articles. Grandmaster 10:39, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Do I know you my dear sir? Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 05:14, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
He's been back, on the Turkey and Armenia pages. Would it be possible for you to nail some more IPs and/or socks? (If you'd prefer I make the request on the main checkuser page, just troutslap me and I'll be happy to, just figured you were already familiar with the situation.) Seraphimblade Talk to me 10:19, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I have added another one that i forget to put before. Can you please check it for me. Thanks DXRAW 12:15, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello Dmcdevit, can you take a look here please? User_talk:Blnguyen#Any_ideas_about_what_to_do_with_this_article.2Feditor.3F. Thanks, Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 23:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Your article Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-04-23/Pat Binns contained the sentence: "As of publishing, the television segment was still illegally available through Pate’s YouTube channel." with a link to the material. Please read Wikipedia:Copyrights#Linking_to_copyrighted_works and note that linking to copyright infringements is prohibited on Wikipedia and may constitute a copyright infringement in itself. Thanks. Dmcdevit· t 08:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
I understand tha User:Ahwaz was unblocked under his promise not to edit war on Nasser Pourpirar. Indeed Ahwaz account has not touched the article ever since. On the other hand the history of the article shows a number of throw away accounts reverting it. Do you think they are Ahwaz's puppets? If, yes, he probably should be reblocked. Alex Bakharev 07:06, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Since you were an arbitrator on the case involving Moby Dick, I was wondering if you could provide some insight at User:Ben's comments at the Community sanction noticeboard using Moby Dick's edits as evidence (or something like evidence) -- Cat chi? 17:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
The user is back with several socks, all of which can be found here, here and here. Just a heads up. Anything that can be done? Cheers, – Riana ऋ 18:58, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
B.Wind is suffering from an autblock which appears to be connected to a Checkuser block you placed. I do not intend to undo the block, but as the blocking checkuser-admin, I would appreciate you taking a look. The user also states he/she has sent an email to the blocking admin (I'm assuming you). - auburnpilot talk 07:01, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
You have blocked user:Tajik few weeks back and he is now using a new user name, which is user:Tajik-Professor. He is purposly using bad typing during his edits, at the same time, using a name tajik-"professor". both, tajik and tajik-professors, are involved in anti- pashtun (see talk:Pashtun people) and anti- Afghanistan.
Somebody needs to stop this user who is hooked on spreading false, misleading, and incomplete information online. Herdtrid 23:34, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I've only made two reverts and an edit, on something which is a clear NPOV violation. Miskin 00:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
For example have a look at this edit which I didn't even bother with: [29]. What about WP:NPOV? Does the opinion of a group of partisan editors count more than NPOV? Miskin 00:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Two reverts is my limit. This article has been pov-pushed too much by partisan editors, who have btw established a status quo version by means of numerical superiority. It is ridiculous to seek DR for such a fundamental question. They claim that their pseudo-consensus is more credible than npov. Miskin 00:39, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
As well, I thank you for pointing out my, Miskin's and AlienTraveler's eidts. However, I couldn't help but notice how these were the only three folks you took it upon yourself to "warn." One might ask why you didn't bother notifying the other editors in the dispute. Of course, you might have not gotten around to doing it as of yet. As you know there is a major concern expressed by a number of other editors about the presence of a pro-nationalist group of editors. Your failure to properly notify the other editors in the dispute might very well be construed as bias. I won't take that step with you, although I have found at least one other admin working with this group. Arcayne (cast a spell) 00:59, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
My accusations are never ill-considered, but thanks for making part of my point for me, Nader. However, I don't believe I know why you are here. I didn't refer to you by name, and I can assure you that I don't consider you an opponent. In point of fact, I hardly consider you at all. I believe you have been warned numerous times about stalking and plotting against other editors. You are excused, sir. Arcayne (cast a spell) 04:35, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Something evil has happened and I wonder if you could explain and follow up; it appears user "66" signed his last discussion post for Richard Hell entry as "Roosterer" and then proceeded to get you to block every single anon on that page as "blocked as abusive" EXCEPT for "66" (ie, he got "Roosterer" banned too) AND he got the version he wanted put up (CLEARLY showing beyond all doubt he won't engage in gd faith discussion) protected; there is no edit history for the reversion; Please follow up; I also think this behavior should have "66" banned; if that is not possible a SEVERE reprimand if such exists. It was highly abusive, dishonest and disturbing. AND he got his goal of his page version up so no edits would be done (See Talk page for STEEL for discussion of why his version is NOT to be the one up, and the purpose for the original protect). THis behavior is severe; every single anon on that page (multiple people over multiple years) were blocked by him, at his request using a false account set up ("Roosterer" - who refers to prior posts when there are none registered for Roosterer on that page). This appears obvious; please confirm why you did those blocks and reversion of protected page (and why no history is there to trace it). 4.236.15.182 18:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Does this [ [30]] mean we are okay? - was posted by User: Kd lvr
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Hi Dmc - can you please check up Paraqueet ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) and Herr=dab= ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) - these two ids were caught trolling on Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Hkelkar/Evidence by me and user:Newyorkbrad in a relatively short space of time. I am suspecting Kuntan ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) or Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Hkelkar but it could be another involved party as well. Rama's arrow (just a sexy boy) 20:29, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, this is Kuntan. The following are all confirmed:
Since the checkuser results indicate likely sockpuppetry, what do I do next? JFD 04:16, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
This has been discussed before. Zero was told not to ban Zeq 07:49, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
devit,
You need to realize one very important issue about wkipedia which is especially true for people who come from non-english speaking places (like I do): 1. I do not graps fully what is the difference between "good faith" and "good jusdgment". 2. Any exchange in written english lacks the basic human comunication mechanisms of tone of voice, facial expression etc.. - as such the opportunity to misunderstand is high. So I am not sure what is exactly you are now further complainaing about me. Zero should have known not to ban me (he was told by Fred not to use ban as the first step if he has a conflict) you want to call it "bad judgment" this is fine by me. Zero have demonstrated all along that he does not take descision truly as a neutral party. He takes decision based on his clash of POV with me. call it as you like. Zeq 10:47, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
While I do not have a good grasp of what american english speakers mean in the word "judgment" I do think I can identify when someone doubt that someone else is acting in bad faith. Is this (the bottom part not the highlighted on top) [33] one of those instances ? I am asking. this is a question. Zeq 11:00, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Or maybe do you consider this Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Zeq-Zero0000/Workshop#NPOV_requires_both_views_to_be_represented to be a violation of AGF ? But what if the evidence support that this is modus operandy that Zero is using again and again ? He makes article POV by removing the other POV. I have showed this in the evidence. Zeq 11:20, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
here it is again: [34] supreme intelegence able to turn everything to his prefered direction. That is how he has been also editing for years. Always he is right and the other side is wrong. Zeq 12:43, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
That is good definition. I understand better. At least I know now that I am acting in good faith. It is beyond my ability to judge other people motives. I really can not tell what they are. I can only look at their results without knowing if it their motives or their judgment that got to those results. Zeq 12:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Hello DMC! Hope everything is going well for you. I am seeking access to the admin channels at IRC. You apparently have the keys. (Are they attached to a brick on a chain like at the Sunoco station?) Let me know how to proceed, if you would be so kind. Thanks in advance for your consideration. Best regards, as always, Hamster Sandwich 19:55, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I am reporting an editor who is engaged in edit-warring. HappyInGeneralhas done about 34 reverts on ( [35]) page alone in the last two weeks. He and I were warned on May 1st. [36] I have refrained from editing that page, but HappyInGeneral has continued edit warning.
In ignoring the warning and 3RR rule, HappyInGeneral has declared himself an edit warrior. If he is not punished for this behavior now, no one will care about Wiki rules any more.
The edit warning on that page is mostly about a provocative and contested image added by HappyInGeneral. Many editors have rejected placing this picture in the intro. In trying to reach a compromise with him I created a section call “Abuses against Falun Gong practitioners” and placed this picture there. But HappyInGeneral deleted this section and moved the picture back to the intro thus starting a round of revert war. [37] -- Samuel Luo 06:24, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Dmcdevit, I had to look up impugn but after doing so I assure you that my intent was not to impugn anything or anyone. I keep my opinion about the propriety of your activities out of that message as well as of this one. I post a simple statement of fact that the post to the board specifically designed for such kind of messages and attended by a wider spectrum of admins would result in an action (or lack of it) more likely to be in line with the general community stance on such a non-clearcut issues like whether a particular series of reverts amounts to disruption or not. I am pleased by your appreciation of my concern. -- Irpen 07:46, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree that there is a revert war going on, which I don't like, so please help me clarify a few things by commenting on my contributions.
The Suppression_of_Falun_Gong page:
I think that this contribution is essential: [38] because it's well sourced and very relevant to the page. Please review and let me know what you think.
Also the tags are necessary because the current version of Suppression_of_Falun_Gong [39] is hijacked by the POV of Special:Contributions/Samuel_Luo a Falun Gong critic who is proposed for being banned [40], also you may observe that the contributions of Special:Contributions/Pirate101 and Special:Contributions/Yueyuen are only imitating Samuel Luo's behavior.
A few questions:
My opinion regarding these questions, and please let me know if I'm wrong.
As far as I see it, I'm acting according to the wikipedia rules and spirit, where Samuel is not, he is even removing tags that show that the article is disputed.
Also please note that there was a legitimate section for this on this page [41] however this was deleted: [42]. Abusively and repeatedly [43]. Also please review this section of the evidence page: [44]
PS: Note that this is question is here for more then a month now: [45]
I would really like more input on this issue, from you or from anyone else, this would be very much appreciated. Thank You. -- HappyInGeneral 21:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
I am also Selket on FreeNode IRC. -- Selket Talk 06:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
The concern I have about the Licorne issue is that it was unilaterally extended to indefinite by one admin, with no discussion whatsoever. To be fair, I believe that anti-Semitic hate speech shouldn't be tolerated--hell, I gave the admin who indef'd him a Barnstar yesterday for booting him. But how's it gonna look in court if Licorne shows up expecting to edit under the restrictions imposed by ArbCom, only to find himself indef'd? It wouldn't be worth the inevitable disruption he'd cause. That was my rationale ... I was concerned that a one-year ArbCom ban that was extended to indefinite without discussion (no matter how merited it was) wouldn't stick in court, and the guy would drive people off Wikipedia before finally being booted for good. I'd have mentioned this on ANI, but didn't want to get jumped on in case anyone considered it trolling. Blueboy 96 19:59, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
I support him being booted--I just want to make sure we get it right and don't give him a window where he could possibly return. Blueboy 96 21:42, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Here's the diff of FIVE members of ArbCom endorsing CSN and it's ability to topic ban problem users. [49] SirFozzie 23:17, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Maybe I'm reading something into the words you're not, however. "The SYSTEM' appears to be working". SirFozzie 23:44, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Thatcher's point is what I'm trying to get at. Maybe an example will help? Back in the deep primordial ooze before WP:CSN existed, I thought about a community ban for ParadoxTom and broached the subject at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive141#Community_ban_for_ParadoxTom, where it was decided to restrict him to 1RR. A month later, after a few violations of this community-imposed, completely uncontroversial 1RR, the case was brought up at ArbCom [50], where I instead recused and imposed a community ban on ParadoxTom, since I felt confident there would be no objection. There was no objection, Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive150#Community_ban_for_ParadoxTom, and ParadoxTom was quietly banned by acclamation without resorting to ArbCom. This is in no way an innovation of WP:CSN, to claim so is a red herring, and what I am in opposition is the bureaucratic hoops that CSN is trying to impose that will constrain such reasonable actions. Dmcdevit· t 00:03, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Latest batch of socks, with account creation times:
Could you check if there's more where those came from? Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:22, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
If you trust my good faith I will tell you one more thing. 90% of my edits in wkipedia have been in an attempt to NPOV blunt POV by people like Zero, Homey etc...Wikipedia has a serious anti-Israel problem and this is btw, why almost all Israeli editors (very active in Hebrew wikipedia have left the english wiki - only El_C has remained but he has viwes that are of a tiny minority). In a world in which Zionist is a 4 letter word Wikipedia is loosing a valid (yet unpopular) POV.
You still think the process is fair ? that it looks fair ? that Fred "anti-zionisim" is not part of what goes on here ?
Look I respect your political view (as far as I know you are anti-zionist as well, I was a green-party supporter my self once) but the issue here is to be fair and not biased. I think you are and I think that Fred can not be.
Zeq 03:49, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I did not had any recent direct edit dispute with Fred. I respect his viwes as he admitted to be "anti-Zionist" and he charterze me as "Zionist". So clearly this is the samr old problem I have wrote to you before: 2 opposing POV.
It is the same as with Zero. I respect his POV. All that I ask is that his POV will be presented fairly, side by side to the other POV. Howver, Zero has a technique to nullify the opposing views - I describe it in the evidence page. In many articles it is working. I have e-mails from people telling me they are afaraif to edit the Nakba article because Zero and his tag-team "own" that article. In previous arbcom case Jayjg promised to mediate the article but he bailed out at the first sign of opposition to this move by the editors who control this article.
What is the propre prcedure to make sure that ArbCom rule on the request that Fred ( a self described "anti-zionist") will recuse ? I would like to get a rulling on this prior to Fred already making "finding of facts" (so far some of his finding have turned out to be wrong and in some of those he actually admitted it as well as being rude toward me) apearnce of fairness is already lost in this case - is this what you expected when you filled the case ? Zeq 18:10, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Is Fred bauder just the "god" of wikipedia ? there is ton of evidence on Zero edit-war , removal of sources and more (in articles I was not even involved in) but somehow not a single arbitor (other than Fred) is at all commenting in the workshop, no one asked even a single question on the evidence, no discussion on the request for Fred to recuse and Fred already rushing with the only finding that Zero was "rude". Zeq 19:50, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Now this isn't a post about what you think it is going to be about. I have apologized to User:Kd lvr on his talk page, which is easier said than done. Let's just say I let my pride and my stubborness get in my way alot. So, it was hard, but I apologized. Whether he accepts it or not, I am not sure and I don't expect him to. Just seemed like the right thing to do.
I would like to say, that I am a little disheartened though that my apology on my talk page explaining my actions was shot down as "half-hearted". This hurt just a little, cause I was apologizing whole-heartedly and it was shot down. You can't really show emotion through computers, so it kinda hurt that I was blocked and told to "take to heart assume good faith" and my apology was pushed aside by someone assuming it was a bad-faith, half-assed apology.
Anyway, just thought you would like to know that about my current post on User:Kd lvr talk page. - SVRTVDude ( V T) 23:27, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Currently there is an edit war being engaged by a user who is obviously reading something I am not or just making things up. Could you revert his changes and protect the Stoop!d Monkey page until the logo situation can be worked out.
The Stoop!d Monkey page was subject of an AfD and the result was "Keep". The admin who closed the AfD said that "I just said the article was to be kept, I don't know about the logos". There wasn't a decision given on the logos and in the AfD only 3 users said the logos should go, only 1 said keep the article, lose the logos.
I am not sure how to handle this, but since the admin who closed the AfD made no decision and the AfD wasn't about the logos in the first place (and the majority said to keep the logos if you want to be picky about it) I have asked that the user's changes be reverted and the page be locked til this can be worked out. Perhaps you could help, I don't need to be in anymore trouble. - SVRTVDude ( V T) 01:31, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
If you want my recommendations about how to resolve the dispute, I would say just cool it. Maybe the other guy is being unreasonable, we all have to deal with unreasonable people at Wikipedia at some point. But seriously, it's not a big deal, in the long term, to leave up the other version (especially if it's only about a bunch of logos) while you discuss it. It's not good to continue discussing it as long as you're still going back and forth poisoning the atmosphere on the article itself. You might want to ask some of the people that commented on the AfD (not just the ones that agreed with you) to weigh in at the discussion, as it's always better when it's not a head-to-head negotiation. Dmcdevit· t 03:27, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi. FYI if you haven't seen it, there is ongoing discussion on WP:CN about, and some questions have been raised regarding, your checkuser finding on the above. Part of me doesn't want to see any more time spent on this situation, but I and am sure others would still be interested if there is anything you can add to the discussion there. Regards, Newyorkbrad 05:10, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Your edit here released the IP addresses of editors in a manner inconsistent with http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CheckUser_policy#Wikimedia_privacy_policy. I have removed such addresses from the current version [52]; please oversight all revisions of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents which contain this information. Thank you. John254 02:53, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Due to your improper release of checkuser information, I am filing a request for arbitration against you. Please see Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Dmcdevit. John254 03:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
How can someone who made this accusation (without being able to support it with facts): [53] continue to take part in this case ??? Can I get an answer and a decision from ArbCom on this ? Zeq 20:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
How can I get an answer about this and about my request that all evidence will be considered (including the evidence about Zero's deletinons which leave the article POV, removal of sources and off course his extensive edit-wars in articles that I never edited . Thank You. Zeq 07:04, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Jimbo reblocked Jiang after you last comments on Jiang's talk page and hours after the rogue actions. You may also want to see the comments at User talk:Jeffrey O. Gustafson. Since you did the checkuser stuff, you are probably best suited to sort this out. Cheers, NoSeptember 20:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
OMG, PNSD Fix.
TY, HAND! -- Kim Bruning 22:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I actually agree with the principle, but I thought that WP:RM described how I was supposed to do this (and that failing to do so would result in the idea being rejected). Those specifically instruct to use {{ WP:RMtalk}} to start the discussion, and note its present form. -- Random832 22:42, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
This is a sockppupet who edits like Zero: [54]
The diff was sent to me by e-mails from few people. among them are those who told me that they are not going to participate in the arbCom case since they are afraid that speaking out against Zero will cause them to be banned. so you see: people are even afraid to revert a sock pppupet and they send it to me in hope I will..... Zeq 04:02, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
btw, is this removal of sources or not: [55], [56], [57], [58], [59], [60] - surly it is not even an edit-war (after all Zero never edit-war but if he does it is for a good cause) btw, this last edit is similar to the sockppuepet. Zeq 04:04, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I wanted to ask a checkuser a question on procedure. I am being harassed constantly by a never-ending stream of SummerThunder sock puppets (see Wikipedia:Long term abuse/SummerThunder), and I'm wondering if there's any way for a checkuser to look at the unusually large number of "samples" he's provided lately, do a traceroute, determine his ISP, and contact them about the trouble their customer is stirring up. It's getting absolutely ridiculous and needs to be stopped ASAP -- just look at the edit histories at University of California, Riverside, Harvard University, and my Talk page, for starters. I have an updated list of the socks he's used in the last few days going at AIN ( Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#SummerThunder_going_apeshit_.28be_on_the_lookout.29). Thanks for any help or advice you might be able to offer. --Dynaflow 07:00, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I decided to contact you directly about LionheartX since you're the blocking admin for the first sockpuppet of RevolverOcelotX, User:RaGnaRoK SepHír0tH and the admin who proposed community banning him after several instances of ban-circumventing. I consider this strictly an issue of policy enforcement or maybe we should regain community consensus to ban him?-- Certified.Gangsta 19:08, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
[62] Zeq 20:25, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I've heard several complaints about the overly formal structure of RM lately. Perhaps it's time something is done about that? >Radiant< 08:20, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
This user has already broken 3RR ( last stand), displayed unvicil behaviour and instigated rv-warring in his first day of editing [63]. I'm not sure what I should do. Obviously can't report him under 3RR. I think he needs to hear it from someone else other than myself. Miskin 20:44, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
With the incredible amount of vandalism reverts and warnings, I wanted to give Lakers the extra benifit of the doubt. I know Artaxiad is banned. Does Lakers actualy have the same IP address, or what suspicious activity did the account of Lakers do exactly that prove as evidence that he/she is a sock of Artaxiad? I've read Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Artaxiad, but I didn't see where it stated the evidence that Lakers was a sock of Artaxiad.(I sent the same message to Anetode, and he advised me to ask you for a more precise reason for the evidence of Lakers being a sock of Artaxiad.)-- U. S. A. 03:05, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Fred seems to have a personal issue with me.
This accusation is 100% false: [64] he simply does not understand what I wrote and there was clearly no disruption that I caused. but since Fred avoids even the workshop page I can not even discuss it.
Does this whole process seems Fair ? or is it just based on zionost Vs anti-zionist.... ?
cvan I get an answer from you. I trust that you are fair even if your polouitical views are not as mine. Tnx.
btw, is one of the arbitors have a presonal connection to Zero ? Zeq 18:45, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
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i saw you warning Miskin, r u an admin of this site? can you look at Last stand, Miskin undos everyone else's edits which are contrary to his thinking, i counted and he's undone 7 edits of other users in the last two days alone...is unoding users' edits like this allowed? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dharmender6767 ( talk • contribs) 07:20, 11 May 2007 (UTC).
See WP:RFAR#Miskin. Considering you've blocked him before, commentary might be useful. ⇒ SWATJester Denny Crane. 09:06, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, you probably don't remember it, but you moved this article last September to its new location. The article ended speedy deleted by mistake under G4 a few months later. I am wondering if there was any talk page associated with it commenting the title. An editor is willing to rename the article into "The Algerian Genocide". I personally have strong objections, but well I have an obvious POV bias in the subject. Could you stop by, check the probably deleted version and voice your opinion? (Yeah I know, that article should probably go to AfD, but I think it is starting to be more balanced) -- lucasbfr talk 12:49, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Hey dmc, could you do me a favor and semi my talk and user pages for a couple of days? I seem to be getting hit by a disgruntled user. I'd do it myself but I'm leery about protecting my own talk page. -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 00:16, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dmcdevit, you requested to stay informed, so just to let you know that Ararat arev is back on Turkey and Aryan. Cheers, – Riana ऋ 06:04, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
I see you work very hard, Dmcdevit, but I have a question... I must admit I never realized so many anti-Falun Gong editors (Yueyuen, Pirate, etc.) were all sockpuppets (of Samuel / Tomananda)! Can I ask what criteria and evidence this is based on? Jsw663 17:56, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
You claim to have evidence that shows I am a sockpuppet of samuel, this is a absurd. I don't know how you come up with this "evidence" but I demand you to disclose that. -- IamYueyuen 20:49, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Dmcdevit· t Why can you respond to my question? I know you do not have evidences to back your claim because I am not Samuel. This is really unfair banning me for nothing? -- Yueyuen2 01:57, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
You are not responding to my question, you are not providing evidence and yet you claim that I am a sock of Samuel. I hope you know that you are being very wriong and unfair.-- Yueyuen3 19:40, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi DmcDevit, can you provide checkuser on the original account of Retiono Virginian because the account went insane and did page-move vandalism. Please see this.-- Pre ston H (Review Me!) • (Sign Here!) 19:10, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Regarding your move of Kven to Kven people. The move created many double redirects, some of which are protected due to a nasty sock puppet war (see: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Kven). One of the tactics of the now banned user was to create parallel articles under different known and unknown spellings of the word. These have been converted to redirects to Kven. My suggestion is to keep Kven, Kvens, and Kvæn as redirects and delete all others. I am not an administrator so I cannot do it myself. Labongo 17:41, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Koavf has made an appeal of your block; the appeal is located in the clarification section. Thanks! Flcelloguy ( A note?) 21:53, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
I made a few edits to the article Russian language in Ukraine explaining each my edit in comments [66]. Then User:Kuban_kazak reverted my edits without providng any reasons. I tried to restore them, but he reverted again, and again without providing any reasons.
I would like to avoid an edit war. Could you please help me?-- AndriyK 19:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Here is one more example, how this group of users provoke edit wars. (I am not involved in the dispute this time).
Ethnic Russians in Ukraine ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Kuban kazak ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 15:59, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
After his 3rd revert Kuban kazak tried to recruit another edit warrior [70].
The reverts are not literal, but all edits include replacing "Ukraine" with "Little Russia", "Ukrainian" with "Little Russian" etc. (This is a terminology used by Imperial Russia and considered as offensive by many Ukrainians.)-- AndriyK 15:59, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
AndriyK, while I see the reasons why you choose this particular page as a substitute for non-existing Wikipedia:Request to block if you have a content dispute with the user and want to say something, you start from the article's talk rather than make forum shopping the first and only step to ensure you get an article your way. As for your edits, they were rightfully reverted, though not by myself, and if you insist on explanation, I will explain at the article's talk why I would have revetred them. Irpen 19:44, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
No need to go in circles or in ovals. Just make sure you are familiar well enough with the AGF policy itself before citing it as per my advise above. And best yet, avoid patronizingly invoking policies except to newbies and stay on topic. That's all. -- Irpen 08:04, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
First Kuban kazak was edit warring reinserting the same derogatory stuff about Ukrainian language [71]. Then after he did three ... well, not exactly reverts but very similar edits he asked for help from his friends [72], [73]. One of them came and reverted [74]. As I promiced, I did not revert again, but tried to as him about the reason of his revert [75]. And this was the answer: [76]. What can I be done to resolve the dispute, if these people do not want even discuss?-- AndriyK 17:12, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | ||
As you were the first person who exposed Samuel Luo's egregious sockpuppetry that went unnoticed for an entire year, I, Olaf Stephanos, award you this barnstar. |
Thanks a lot for clearing my name of this groundless accusation by running the checkuser. I am ready to provide additional evidence in private, if necessary, that I do not have sockpuppets and that I do discuss all my edits on all pages I edit. My accusers, mainly User:Vartanm and User:MarshallBagramyan are the two users constantly edit warring and taking advantage of the fact of being left out of ArbCom. I am the subject of their attack for a simple reason, I have never violated any rule since the ArbCom decision, while many of the other users got one or more blocks of varying length. You may want to check their edit warring history, and I think both must be placed on the revert parole through ArbCom. Their editting pattern is not at all any different from those who were banned or restricted on either side. Atabek 16:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dmc - could you please verify if User:213.122.29.63 is user:Indian50? This user is edit-warring on Punjab (India) and Gujarati grammar and may be socking to harass user:Tuncrypt. Rama's arrow (just a sexy boy) 01:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Since you left a message on my talk page I felt, I could address you directly. I did try to follow your advice in regards to dealing with User:Kuban Cossack but he is absolutely impossible to work with. Vindictive and petty, clinging to every little thing and unwilling to compromise over anything. I spent two days over definitions of Little Russian with him, and when it seemed we agreed on something, here he wakes up again and goes on revet rampage, destroying not only hours of my work but contributions of other editors. I suggested we talk first, he however, prefers to revet instead. The article was protected already, nothing seems to be working. We need intervention and some kind of control over what he is doing. Thank you.-- Hillock65 21:03, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
This seems a pretty obvious case. Worth a check?
Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I thought my RfA entered some bizarre parallel dimension before you came in and helped sort things out. I'd actually got a private email about the very issue before you went in. Thanks ever so much, I hope to become such an effecting Admin in the future. All the best. -- Bobak 00:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I won't really object if another arbitrator wants to add that into the case, but I don't really see the benefit. They obviously won't be edit-warring in the future, and I think sending an unambiguous message that such attempts to screw around with the arbitration process won't be tolerated—pour encourager les autres—is more important than trying to clean up the loose ends here. Kirill Lokshin 05:30, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dmcdevit. Regarding VK35 ( talk · contribs) and RFCU, see this (sorry for the essay-like length). I wasn't sure if I had notified you of this yet, or if you had otherwise become aware of it. I think the unblock is unwise but perhaps somewhat justifiable, but I particularly think allowing VK35 to resume RFCU clerk duties under the circumstances is a mistake. · jersyko talk 18:08, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Thank you very much for running a CheckUser on Molag Bal today. We had a long talk with him on IRC, and he keeps claiming he'll stop making accounts, but we know he's not going to do that. I guess this thank you will be for the CUs done now, and in the future :P. Nishkid64 ( talk) 23:55, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, your archives were rather messed up by this helpful chap - [83]. I think we've managed to get everything back into the right place but you might want to double check... WjB scribe 04:03, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
On User talk:Springbob Squirepants it appears that user may have been caught up in a checkuser block set by yourself, just letting you know in case anything needs to be done. Thanks :) Orderinchaos 13:58, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
See the page Hindu_iconography. Now see Idolatry. The page starts out "Idolatry is a major sin", with the implication now that Hindus are sinners. I have no need to assume good faith with this ideological warrior. Also, I've noticed blnguyen regards this user as a troll, as does pretty much every other Indian user, I'm merely following an established train of thought. Thank you. Baka man 19:36, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dmcdevit - FYI, that really was some very effective trolling by User:Anwar saadat. I'm not defending Bakasuprman's response, but I do want you to be aware that Anwar saadat vandalized Bakasuprman's userpage recently by adding a fake sockpuppet tag [85]. Regarding Anwar Saadat's edit, idol-worship "is the only sin that cannot be forgiven by God" according to Islam (see Idolatry article). For a Muslim to add that to the Hinduism article was quite clearly not a good faith edit. The reason I came across this is that the next edit at Hinduism after Bakasuprman's revert was this gem: "The largely pastoral Vedic people and subsequent generations relied heavily on raping monkeys and killing children for protein-rich milk and dairy products" [86] by brand-new user User:Mattskills. When the article about your religion is the victim of regular hate-attacks by members of other religions, a lack of patience in response is sometimes understandable. ॐ Priyanath talk 00:32, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I have a question on the article on Nupedia, why the logo picture cannot be changed size? Thanks! Wooyi Talk to me? 19:42, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Oi vey. If you could put Price-Anderson Nuclear Industries Indemnity Act on your watchlist, I'd be appreciative. Ben Gatti (who is still under general probation) is at it again. That proposed open defines POV. -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 15:58, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Not that Confucius and Thoreau are bad, but Laozi and Zhuangze really do embody the whole Wikipedia experience. Go back to your copy of The Inner Chapters and look at the Accord That Reaches All The Way To Heaven and tell me if that shouldn't be required reading for all Wikipedians. Elijahmeeks 16:31, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
I saw you gave the following: I agree that accusations of bad faith, and calling others trolls, is a particularly unwarranted and needs to stop in order for the content negotiations to be fruitful. In theory, the response refused or failed mediation is WP:RFAr, for cases that don't require obvious fixes like admin blocks. I'm not sure there is much administrators can do here: our technical tools are blunt. I can block someone, but for problems like assumptions of bad faith in a certain content dispute for an otherwise productive editor, that is not likely to be a net gain for the project. Administrators (because of the limitation of this being a website) don't really have many options outside that, besides persuasion. Perhaps arbitration is the way to go, if it continues. Arbitration isn't just for bans, but is designed to be able to handle targeted solutions for specific problems, like assumptions of bad faith. Dmcdevit·t 00:47, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate the fact that admins are somewhat powerless in this matter. It is what it is. Bad behavior, even if not appreciated is accepted or tolerated. I am tired of working in good faith to try to improve wikipedia, when all someone has to do is be a bully. I came to the article in question with no agenda but to improve an article that is soon going to be getting lots of attention. I wanted it to be well constructed. Despite my good intentions, I am abused -- even when I have not been "bold" in editing -- and despite seeking discussion first. Other people concede that the other editor is a bully and one person suggests that this is a sockpuppet of an editor already banned for abusive edit warring. Yet, no one will take that person aside or in hand to correct the behavior. I am exceptionally busy in real life. I have substantial obligations and my time is extremely valuable and expensive. It is difficult justify spending my time in fights with vain people and in a system that lets the bully win, contrary to what wikipedia states its purpose to be. I am not currently in a frame of mind nor can I justify the time to fight for what I consider to be right. But you have a position and longevity with wikipedia to consider these issues and I encourage you to do so. If these things are viewed as trivial nuisances -- not very disruptive -- then that is how it is. I can accept that. I tend to read it as a systemic rejection of my edits and values -- that in essence I am the problem; I do not fit in here. I do not have a clear vision of how I can be very productive in such a system. But I appreciate your attention to my complaint. It was more than I got from most folks. Regards... -- Blue Tie 17:28, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Dmcdevit, although I respectfully but strongly disagree with your characterization of my editing history, I continue to assume your good faith, please assume my good faith. I apologize to Blue Tie for anything I have said in the past which may have been taken as hurtful, unfair or unhelpful.
Only to provide some context and background, I was initiated as a Wikipedia editor in the Sollog wars, wherein I was encouraged and (I thought strongly) reinforced for an aggressive and confrontational editing style. I had no notion that the Sollog article was rather a fluke and not very typical of how Wikipedia wontedly works. About two years ago, I engaged in that editing style whilst dealing with another problematic editor (who is still under sundry probations and topical bans) and to make a very, very long tale very short, it blew back in my face (so to speak) mostly because of my own lack of understanding about Wikipedia and what makes it work. Since then, I have not very often, but often enough I guess, still been too confrontational with editors whom I thought weren't making edits according to my own interpretations of good faith, WP policy and so on. This has been my botch and mine alone, even if it was in good faith.
I encourage Blue Tie to not let this episode discourage him from expressing any worries he may have about content anywhere on this wiki. I am willing to edit cooperatively with Blue Tie and will assume Blue Tie's good faith. Blue Tie, I'm so sorry. Please let me try to fix any harm I have done. Cheers to you both. Gwen Gale 23:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Dmcdevit, I think what we have here is a conflict between communication styles. Gwen Gale is direct and to the point, at times to a flaw. You may call this aggressive. From what I've seen (the above being no exception) Blue Tie is wordy and wearisome, revisiting the same points ad nauseum. I might call this passive-aggressive. I see no attempt to resolve any active dispute - indeed, is there an active dispute? - but droning on and on about his victimization at the hands of "bullies" in order to get Gwen Gale in trouble. I'd be very reluctant to privilege Blue Tie's style of engagement, which speaking very subjectively I find borderline trollish. Calling someone a bully is a personal attack every bit as much as is calling someone a troll. Whining about someone on ANI, and keeping the dispute going for weeks thereafter (what is this about again?) isn't civil.
Re you statement, "Sooner or later, Gwen Gale needs to be at arbitration..." My understanding was that Arbitration is (at least in theory) not a way to target particular editors, but to resolve particular disputes. The idea that "Gwen Gale needs to be at arbitration" thus strikes me one relative to which Blue Tie might be viewed as a stalking horse. Disputes are to be resolved wherever possible, not seized upon as arbitrary opportunities to pursue preexisting conflicts. The fact is that the situation between Gwen Gale and Blue tie has nothing whatsover to do with the previous arbitration case,
It is also inaccurate to state that Gwen Gale is "...using a new identity to evade the previous arbitration...," as this identity was known to at least one member of the committee, and she's not used it to violate the topical ban. Instead we see Gwen Gale contributing productively to Lisa Nowak, Mountain Meadows massacre (to which it is indeed at least worth asking if she were not wikistalked by Blue Tie) and a wide range of other topics and articles. One editor restricted by that arbitration, User:Onefortyone, has clearly not moved on, his userpage is dedicated to that sole obsession of outing celebrities as gay, and he has accrued several actions related to the arbitration. Your focus on Gwen Gale, then, again seems misplaced.
Finally, I would like to address the question of your and Thatcher131's reference to former usernames. From our harassment policy: "Posting another person's personal information (legal name..) .is harassment, unless that editor voluntarily provides or links to such information himself or herself....it also applies in the case of editors who have requested a change in username..." Though Gwen Gale has not complained, this policy seems to me, as it is currently written, quite clear. Harassment is a strong word, and naturally something we should avoid.
If Blue Tie considers that there is an active dispute which he's unsuccesfully tried to resolve, nothing prevents him from opening an RfC. That might provide an excellent opportunity to gauge community sentiment and suggest a way forward for both parties. However, as Gwen Gale's latest comments are far more conciliatory than they should really have to be, I cannot see that it would be credible to claim that Gwen Gale is being uncooperative, unresponsive or unwilling to address your concern. Mediation - if not just dropping this pointless thread and moving on - thus seems the more appropriate step. Proabivouac 22:07, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
-- Smee 20:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
After coming up with User:Simul8 on the WP:SSP/Newport, I think you should also check out User:Holdenhurst and User:Osidge, who definitely contribute almost exclusively on CfDs and AfDs where the other participate, usually with identical reasons. Bulldog123 07:02, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Here is a good candidate for edit warrior title: Dahn ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). See his block log.
one of his endless edit war on a hot article
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Valter_Roman&action=history
I'm a polish user. This does not hide the fact that Dahn was blocked before for 3RR.
Oi. -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 02:21, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
...is requested in clarifying here your wording in your indef block for Dharmender6767, especially concerning the word "obvious". Thanks. Niko Silver 09:25, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Is the 'inappropriate content' you removed still there, or has it been oversighted? If it's been oversighted, could the history be restored again now? (I was checking the page - last week's article - to help with this week's article, and went into the history to revert vandalism, and found that most of the early history was missing; it may be needed for GFDL compliance if it can be undeleted without too much trouble, or there are other possibilities if it can't be.)
I've replied your concerns on my commons RFA, thanks for voting! Wooyi Talk to me? 01:29, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Dmc, can you answer my Email regarding Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Kermanshahi? Thanks in advance Alex Bakharev 03:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
While I think I understand your reasoning, quite a few of those categories have gone through WP:CFD/ WP:UCFD, so I would think a group nomination for discussion would be preferrable? - jc37 08:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I gave a sound reasoning in the deletion summary. I'm not interested in UCFD nominations just for the sake of process fetishism. Which ones do you actually disagree with? We can talk about them. Dmcdevit· t 17:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
It's not "process fetishism", it's preventing disruption, it's following policy. Mass deleting categories which have been known in the past to be contentious is disruptive, and according to WP:CSD:
And as I noted above, according to Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Non-criteria:
And so far, the rationale you left on most of the deletions:
simply does not qualify for speedy deletion based on the above.
So actually, the onus is on you to show why you should be able to speedy these cats.
As an aside, I'm going to revert your attempt to bypass discussion at WP:UCFD, and reopen the discussions, for the reasons above, and because there is simply no reason to be so impatient as to not allow a 5 day discussion. (I don't see WP:BLP or WP:COPYVIO concerns which might indicate such urgency.) - jc37 19:33, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
(dedent) Jc37, I sympathize with you. Process is useful (sounds like a good essay title). It helps ensure consistency and avoid needless conflicts. At the same time, process is not absolute. It is a bad idea to do things solely for the sake of process. For example, if you want to block/unblock/delete/undelete, etc. it should be because you believe that the action is objectively the right outcome, and not solely because you are concerned with how some previous action was performed. Would it have been better if Dmcdevit had started a conversation about this beforehand? Yes, I think it would have been. There doesn't appear to be any urgency here, and writing out a group CFD could have covered this easily enough while letting the community share in the decision. (Bad Dmcdevit, no cookie for you.) But unless you believe the outcome would have or should be different then the issue is largely academic. Aside from arguably setting a bad example, do you see Dmcdevit's actions as actually having harmed something? Dragons flight 22:13, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I believe I do, and the link reinforces that, but I think you may have missed it, or perhaps misunderstood what I was attempting to convey. By merely saying that "The intent of the policy is that Wikipedia remain an encyclopedia" begs the question. Of course that's the intent of policy in general. The whole point of having WP:NOT is to help with that (which includes the statement about advocacy). But what constitutes "advocacy" or any of the other "not" criteria can be considered subjective, and should be determined by Consensus. WP:CSD reinforces that by saying that WP:NOT reasons are not valid reasons to speedily delete something. While discussing the "spirit of the law", do you understand why WP:NOT are not valid reasons to speedily delete something? What the reasons behind the policy are? Wikipedia is not a battleground? Well, that's partially one reason. But if one reads Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Reasoning behind NPOV, perhaps one may get a better idea. An additional clue may be found in Wikipedia:Assume the presence of a belly-button.
As for the rest:
If you've been actually discussing, rather than just stating how right the deletions were based on content and how you refuse to undelete, or discuss anything, except concerning content, (or making personal "suggestions" about me, my priorities, and how I should spend my volunteer time aiding the Wikipedia project), I've missed it. Though I would be happy to be corrected on this.
No, I wasn't claiming that "the other people commenting in the DRV are unwikipedian as well". Though there have been, and are, discussions about how WP:DRV has been used quite a bit lately to just try/retry XfD discussions, rather than be about the process (which is the intent explained on WP:DRV). But that's a whole other discussion, and not worth getting sidetracked with here.
And yes, I think you've made your stance rather clear, You're focused so much on the content you don't see (or don't care about) the rest. This leaves me with several options, including the ones I listed above.
My choice?
Shrugs.
User:Dragons flight's post above actually allayed most of my concerns. I could be mistaken, but I think one indirect result of this "discussion" has been that additional action (and therefore the potential for disruption, or worse, "wheel-warring) has been minimised. At this stage, I've mostly just been attempting to re-clarify, in the hopes you may understand, as well as responding to your "rhetoric" and accusations. And there comes a point where that becomes pointless. (Though I learned that long before Wikipedia, I've learned it mostly in this venue by periodic reading of JustZisGuy's talk page. Fascinating stuff, it's amazing he stays sane : )
Do I think you're a bad editor or a bad admin? No, not really. I think you just made a mistake in haste in how you chose to apply an action. (I think that you, too, have a belly button : ) - The lack of research, and the application of WP:BRD applied to deletion (while refusing the "RD" potion), are both concerning, but I will at this time be quite content to presume that it's not something you would do again in the same way.
As for the categories themselves, personally, as I've stated many times before today, I've been "on-the-fence" about the "support/oppose" categories for a long time. Hence my "neutral" stance. One one hand, there is User:Jimbo Wales' comment about them (which I agree with), but on the other is the most common argument for their retention: Having them shows interest in related topic articles on the encyclopedia, and therefore helps foster collaboration between those of similar interest (which I also agree with). And needless to say, there are infinitely more sub-interests than WikiProjects can encompass. Hence, I'm on-the-fence.
And finally, if you're bored, or find you have the time or inclination, feel free to take a moment and read through the "Pages worth reading" listed at the top of my talk page (and "references" on my user page). They've been there awhile. I found them interesting and useful, perhaps you will as well.
And in case that it wasn't clear enough, I'm going to treat your last comment (despite it's possible appearance otherwise) as a good faith "suggestion" to disengage. Sounds like a good idea to me too.
Anyway, I do hope that you're having a good day : ) - jc37 10:13, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
I was startled to discover your large-scale deletion of political/social issues categories for Wikipedians. While I can understand your reasoning, I'd like to know--was there any discussion or deletion debate about it before you acted? K. Lásztocska 14:39, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Whole lot of categories deleted by User:Dmcdevit. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. The Evil Spartan 18:18, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Dmcdevit, my broadband ISP assigns static, global IP addresses. My address was recently changed due to a Verizon ATM backhaul change, and I apparently inherited an IP address that you had previously blocked as a zombie. How can I convince you that I am a tangible person with good Wikipedia manners?
Robfollett 03:00, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
You appear to have re-deleted this category, after it was restored by another admin... You suggest a DRV, however the first step prior to a DRV is to contact the admin who deleted it. The category was deleted after at least two "keep" decisions, and did not meet any speedy criteria... The deleting admin, User:Shanel acknowledged this, and stated he/she would be fine with it being restored ("Feel free to revert me or create said category if you wish, or whatever else you'd like to do."). As such, it should _not_ go to DRV, and the matter should be considered closed... And, as such, could you please take the time to undelete it again? Thanks, Bushytails 05:41, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
In response to 'why is it useful', there are furry-centric articles (mostly comics, unless there's a film or two in there) whose continual improvement drives would be served by asking one or more users in Category:Furry Wikipedians. Bl a st [ improve me 06.06.07 0416 (UTC)
For what it's worth, maybe categories like this would be more helpful (and understandable) if they were in the project space, rather than the encyclopedia. Gwen Gale 19:01, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello Dmcdevit. I seem to disagree with the reasons you cited for deleting this category and I think that it should have been brought to WP:CFD. Please comment. Best regards, Hús ö nd 14:59, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Can you please, check the Safavid dynasty please [88]. Banned User:Tajik is using numerous socks and has launched a very heavy revert war, not even discussing his edits. I also requested a semi-protection of the page. Thanks. Atabek 20:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
OMG, of course my IP is NRW (Nordrhein-Westfalen) and Hessen, because I live in that area (check Dortmund), along with 24 million (!) other people. I have already explained in the talk page that I am living in Germany and that I have studied in Munich. I guess everyone who lives in Germany and is interested in the Safavid dynatsy must be "Tajik". It is laughable that the admins of Wikipedia do not even dare to read what the users write in the articles. I have spent more than 3 hours today to check spellings and to clean up an article that is totally messed up by months of extensive edit-warring. Just take a look at Atabek's revert: [91] All I did was correcting the spelling, correcting grammar, and so forth. I have neither deleted information, nor added anything controversial. This fake politeness of Wikipedia's admins and the rude and unconstructive attitude of many Wikipedias is the reason I do not want to sign up and to create an account. I am not interested in this silly community, in which constructive work and good faith are not respected. Atabek has reverted all of my edits, yet, he himself has not spent one single minute to clean up the article. 99% of his edits are reverts, nationalistically motivated POV, and in talk pages, he is accusing and insulting others. Honestly, I am not surprised that the admin quickly blocked the page and that Atabek quickly reverted to a messed up version. This is the policy of Wikipedia, and the reason why Wikipedia is still not accepted as a reliable encyclopedia. As I have said before: I really do not care. I was just trying to help by doing something that self-proclaimed experts such as Atabek do not feel responsible for: cleaning up an article. And it does not surprise me that Atabek is not punished by the admins, although he has violated the 1 revert per week rule, since my edits were neither vandalism nor edit-warring. Meanwhile, I have spent another 30 minutes to clean up another section of the article. See [92]. But unfortunately, I cannot update the page because it is protected. As I have already explained, Wikipedia's silly community is not interested in constructive works and good faith edits. Atabek is the best example.
Hi,
I did not think I would have to bother you at all and not so soon but here we go again:
Sorry, Zeq 20:54, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
sorry to bother you again - please see this: [94]. I am at loss at why I am being attcked by Zero and others. The article I created seems to already exist elsewhere so a merge and redirect may have been in order (if I would have known) but clearly the content is proven to be encyclopedic since part of it is already in wikipedia for a long time. (I focused on the use of the expression while another article pointed out the Quranic roots of the expression) Zeq 16:25, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Could you check 89.137.109.169 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) - clearly Bonny, but unlike other of his IPs it doesn't look much like an open proxy, and it is in Romania. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:19, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Could you take a look? It's a checkuser block you've placed and the user is offering $1000 for any proof that a vandal has been operating from the address...could be lucrative. ;-) Thanks, - auburnpilot talk 00:08, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dmc, is there any chance of an CU request? It's just that I blocked the above user for trolling RFCN, then User:TortureIsBad turns up and vandalises my userpage and H's userpage. TortureIsWrong emailed me explicitly saying that was not him, and he does not want to be associated with that petty vandalism, I'm actually inclined to believe him. Ryan Postlethwaite 15:17, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Despite this, there was this and this followed by this. Just in case you missed it - hope someone is checking the work. Tvoz | talk 17:29, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
...and you know why ;-). Miranda 22:57, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
72.181.82.57 ( talk · contribs), IP redirects to Texas. Baka man 06:18, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
If you are not aware Category:Wikipedians who support the LGBT community was re-created.-- Jorfer 04:04, 11 June 2007 (UTC)