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Funnily enough, I used to do that all the time as well, until EEng clued me in on a better way to handle those one-off discussions. It's usually less clutter-y to wait a few days, see if anyone's objecting to the result, and then use some kind of archiver to sweep it off the talk page. Happy editing! theleekycauldron ( talk • contribs) (she/her) 23:03, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Sorry if I'm misreading history...when you close something with Twinkle, you need to do the four tildes. I know that seems like it should be necessary, but none of your recent closes at WT:DYK show you as the closer. Valereee ( talk) 00:17, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
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Thanks for the image additions to Elmer Carlson and Robert Spencer Finkbine. SL93 ( talk) 01:34, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
The tag on the article needs to be removed, and the article discussion needs to be updated. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 14:30, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
There is nothing 'speedy' about this keep, please re-word your close. Giant Snowman 20:07, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Hi there, I noticed that when you promoted Template:Did you know nominations/Bothie (dog) to prep area 5 you changed the wording to from "visit the north and south poles" to "set paw in the north and south poles", with "per recommendation in the nomination" in the edit summary. I was the reviewer and my recommendation was that "set paw" should be in quotation marks as it's from a source quoted in the article. I also suggested using either "set foot" or "visit" instead, and the nominator chose to revise the hook using "visit", which I thought was better. I approved the hook as revised.
And shouldn't it be "on" not "in" the North Pole? HazelAB ( talk) 13:20, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
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Paradise Chronicle ( talk) 23:09, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
On 17 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Glock switch, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Glock switch is a device that can turn a handgun into a machine gun? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Glock Switch. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Glock switch), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
-- RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
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Your hook reached 12,380 views (1,031.7 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of January 2023 – nice work! |
GalliumBot ( talk • contribs) (he/ it) 03:27, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
I assumed bad faith of you, and I apologize for that. I'd like to explain a bit where I was coming from. You're welcome to not care, but I think one is titled to an explanation when someone assumes bad faith in that manner.
I think a thing that's easy to forget here is that some articles have emotional significance to people. In this case, I wrote that article while Bellwether was dying, and she died in between me submitting it for DYK and the DYK running. I was, suffice it to say, moved. A self-published author who spent much of her adult life unable to work for a mix of medical and legal reasons, Bellwether was nonetheless an incredibly influential figure in the field of transgender sexuality. The hook you took issue with was, despite its perhaps eye-catching wording, about her most significant intervention in that field—one that, without exaggeration, revolutionized how people write about trans bodies. One without which we would not have works like Fielding's Trans Sex (source of the quote at issue) or the groundbreaking Trans Bodies, Trans Selves.
So it was hurtful—not intentionally, I realize now—to have a characterization of that revolutionary idea dismissed as, essentially, smut. I get how it may have looked that way to one less familiar with the topic, and since DYK is of course for those not familiar with a topic, it was a fair critique to take issue with it on that basis. But after a few weeks of working on this article, on and off, including getting it to GA, it hit me on a personal level. I responded poorly—I don't think poorly in substance, but poorly in tone. And, having made the decision to back off and not fight things further when my third-choice hook was swapped in, it reöpened that wound to see (what I perceived as) a second round of criticism of that hook.
(And to be very clear, this isn't to say I'd get emotional over any old hook in this topic area. Even where I have emotional attachment to an article, I think of myself as good at checking those emotions, but, as I say in the poem I linked, there's something very personally impactful about the death of someone in whose world one lived for a time.)
None of that's any excuse for being a dick, but I hope it at least explains why I saw these interactions very differently than you did. I look forward to continuing working with you around DYK. I thank you for your many contributions to that venue—needless to say, far more extensive than mine.
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The New Page Reviewer's Iron Award | ||
For over 360 article reviews during 2022. Thank you for patrolling new pages and helping us out with the backlog! - MPGuy2824 ( talk) 03:14, 2 January 2023 (UTC) |
Funnily enough, I used to do that all the time as well, until EEng clued me in on a better way to handle those one-off discussions. It's usually less clutter-y to wait a few days, see if anyone's objecting to the result, and then use some kind of archiver to sweep it off the talk page. Happy editing! theleekycauldron ( talk • contribs) (she/her) 23:03, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Sorry if I'm misreading history...when you close something with Twinkle, you need to do the four tildes. I know that seems like it should be necessary, but none of your recent closes at WT:DYK show you as the closer. Valereee ( talk) 00:17, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
Hello Bruxton/Archives/2023,
The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)
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Thanks for the image additions to Elmer Carlson and Robert Spencer Finkbine. SL93 ( talk) 01:34, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
The tag on the article needs to be removed, and the article discussion needs to be updated. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 14:30, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
There is nothing 'speedy' about this keep, please re-word your close. Giant Snowman 20:07, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Hi there, I noticed that when you promoted Template:Did you know nominations/Bothie (dog) to prep area 5 you changed the wording to from "visit the north and south poles" to "set paw in the north and south poles", with "per recommendation in the nomination" in the edit summary. I was the reviewer and my recommendation was that "set paw" should be in quotation marks as it's from a source quoted in the article. I also suggested using either "set foot" or "visit" instead, and the nominator chose to revise the hook using "visit", which I thought was better. I approved the hook as revised.
And shouldn't it be "on" not "in" the North Pole? HazelAB ( talk) 13:20, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Bruxton,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable
New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Paradise Chronicle ( talk) 23:09, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
On 17 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Glock switch, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Glock switch is a device that can turn a handgun into a machine gun? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Glock Switch. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Glock switch), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
-- RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Hook update | ||
Your hook reached 12,380 views (1,031.7 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of January 2023 – nice work! |
GalliumBot ( talk • contribs) (he/ it) 03:27, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
I assumed bad faith of you, and I apologize for that. I'd like to explain a bit where I was coming from. You're welcome to not care, but I think one is titled to an explanation when someone assumes bad faith in that manner.
I think a thing that's easy to forget here is that some articles have emotional significance to people. In this case, I wrote that article while Bellwether was dying, and she died in between me submitting it for DYK and the DYK running. I was, suffice it to say, moved. A self-published author who spent much of her adult life unable to work for a mix of medical and legal reasons, Bellwether was nonetheless an incredibly influential figure in the field of transgender sexuality. The hook you took issue with was, despite its perhaps eye-catching wording, about her most significant intervention in that field—one that, without exaggeration, revolutionized how people write about trans bodies. One without which we would not have works like Fielding's Trans Sex (source of the quote at issue) or the groundbreaking Trans Bodies, Trans Selves.
So it was hurtful—not intentionally, I realize now—to have a characterization of that revolutionary idea dismissed as, essentially, smut. I get how it may have looked that way to one less familiar with the topic, and since DYK is of course for those not familiar with a topic, it was a fair critique to take issue with it on that basis. But after a few weeks of working on this article, on and off, including getting it to GA, it hit me on a personal level. I responded poorly—I don't think poorly in substance, but poorly in tone. And, having made the decision to back off and not fight things further when my third-choice hook was swapped in, it reöpened that wound to see (what I perceived as) a second round of criticism of that hook.
(And to be very clear, this isn't to say I'd get emotional over any old hook in this topic area. Even where I have emotional attachment to an article, I think of myself as good at checking those emotions, but, as I say in the poem I linked, there's something very personally impactful about the death of someone in whose world one lived for a time.)
None of that's any excuse for being a dick, but I hope it at least explains why I saw these interactions very differently than you did. I look forward to continuing working with you around DYK. I thank you for your many contributions to that venue—needless to say, far more extensive than mine.
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