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Response to "Welcome!"

Hello Amerique. Thank you for the welcome, and the references you provided. I'll probably have some questions from time to time, but am limited on how much time I can spend on wikipedia. Feel free to run any ideas past me. Some things I think I am good at are organizing and categorizing information and rewording things to just the essentials. MissionInn.Jim ( talk) 04:46, 7 July 2009 (UTC) reply

Believe me, I'm just happy to have someone literate police the IE-related articles. I see you've become acquainted with Wikipedia's resident "expert" on the region... Most of my recent edits may be considered "housekeeping." Amerique dialectics 05:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC) reply


The IE needs Help

So since you are intrested in the Inland Empire (California) area, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Inland Empire and join if you like. It is a newly formed wikiproject that I just created. House1090 ( talk) 05:39, 7 July 2009 (UTC) reply

I added the Wikiproject IE user box, hope you dont mind. House1090 ( talk) 22:51, 7 July 2009 (UTC) reply
It's nice. Thanks, Amerique dialectics 23:17, 7 July 2009 (UTC) reply

WP:NODRAMA reminder

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UCSD

Your even-handed approach and contributions at UCSD are appreciated. Thanks! -- Born2cycle ( talk) 21:59, 21 July 2009 (UTC) reply


Riverside in SBV

Hi Amerique thanks for your contributions to the Greater San Bernardino Area article, but riverside is not in the SB Valley. I tend to believe that Riverside is in the Perris Valley, I just asked User:MissionInn.Jim since he is an expert, if I may say, in the Riverside Area to verify that for me or to see if I am wrong, which I could be. I think Riverside is in the Perris Valley because I read in a Press Enterprise newspaper article stating that the Perris Valley was going to get a new metrolink line, being called the Perris Valley Line, which included Riverside. So I thought I let you know that I am working on a Perris Valley Article for wikipedia, which includeds the cities of Rubidoux, Moreno Valley, Riverside, Perris, and Corona (I may be missing some cities). House1090 ( talk) 22:17, 4 August 2009 (UTC) reply

Pittsburg State

No I was going to add a refrence/source but wikipedia did not let me it told me something about a block or something about the site or something like that. I will try again see what happens if try it for your self so that way you know iI am not makeing it up. House1090 ( talk) 22:58, 7 August 2009 (UTC) reply

I understand I would be, but I thought if I added a source or a refrence it would be fine here in Wikipedia. Thanks for letting me know, but what if I rewrote but still included some of the info, will that be okay? Will I need to provid a source or a refrence, even though it wont let me? House1090 ( talk) 23:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC) reply
Just don't use that site, and don't make direct copies. This site is considered ok: [1]. Amerique dialectics 23:27, 7 August 2009 (UTC) reply
Ok then and dont worry it wont happen again, it just I thought it would be fine with a source. House1090 ( talk) 23:33, 7 August 2009 (UTC) reply

Category:Top-importance Chicago articles

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Barnstar

The Photographer's Barnstar
Thanks for your pictures of the Inland Empire, we needed them. House1090 ( talk) 02:35, 6 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Please see my comments at that thread. If you would like help or advice on procedural matters, please do not hesitate to contact me. - 2/0 ( cont.) 20:29, 8 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Thanks. I use preview. I generally mean what I write; I don't think my use of preview is an issue here. However, anyone who bothers to fix House's edits can be accused of edit warring due to his misplaced sense of ownership/pride in the IE, etc. Following your suggestion, a "local" discussion over how to handle the House account at will be initiated at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject California when I have more time for this. Amerique dialectics 21:07, 8 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Oops, the link to WP:TWWPK was directed at myself, as I made a truly silly formatting error and so had to post here twice. - 2/0 ( cont.) 21:17, 8 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Inland Empire comments

I protected the page and left a note on the talk page, as I'm sure you saw. Please drop me a line if I can be of assistance- unprotecting, warning, blocking, commenting on the WT:CAL or Talk:Inland Empire threads. tedder ( talk) 07:24, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Thanks, I was just about to note that @An3. Will be collating diffs for a topic ban request at AN, hopefully by next week. Will continue discussion in the meantime. Amerique dialectics 07:32, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Okay. Maybe prepare the diffs on a subpage- I'd be curious to see them. tedder ( talk) 07:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Ok, I'll make a start on this process on a subpage tomorrow. Going to sleep. Thanks again, Amerique dialectics 07:37, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply

"Handling ..." discussion header on WT:CAL

I've refactored the header to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject California#Handling House1090 and moved the User5 template just below so the section link will work. I'm trying to come up with a solution where the content is improved, and you aren't stuck policing articles for quality. I'm assuming you'd rather be developing articles than arguing with strangers on the internet. I'll try to chime in with my two cents on the IE article's talk in a bit. - Optigan13 ( talk) 10:41, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Oh, and [[wikt:Suffer fools gladly|Suffer fools gladly]] will produce a wiktionary interwiki Suffer fools gladly if you didn't know that trick already ( Help:Interwiki linking#Project titles and shortcuts). - Optigan13 ( talk) 10:56, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the tip. I agree with your proposal at WT:CAL, but will let House chime in first. Will be starting up an ongoing case file on a user-subpage soon. (I'm ok with policing articles, if it were only that, but as you can probably tell I have a low tolerance for ignorance or misplaced egotism posing as authority.) Amerique dialectics 21:19, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply
There you go being mean again, now you know why I get mad at you. You need to learn to be nice and not insult your peers. House1090 ( talk) 00:58, 10 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Looking forward to engaging with you more on article talk pages. Amerique dialectics 01:00, 10 December 2009 (UTC) reply

I've posted some more formal wording to this whole arrangement on WT:CAL. Also, I know I said I would try and weigh in on the content, but I've decided it's best if I stay out of the content side of things on IE articles to remain relatively neutral on this in case it requires any escalation. - Optigan13 ( talk) 08:54, 15 December 2009 (UTC) reply

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Dinos

Hi - if I had the time I would do it...would you be willing to report 68.5.101.139 for 3RR? Enough is enough with the edit war, don't you think? -- SkagitRiverQueen ( talk) 21:44, 30 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Thanks

I never thanked for your condolence note last year, but I appreciate it more than I can possibly express. All the best, in friendship. Guettarda ( talk) 16:23, 10 January 2010 (UTC) reply


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It's a representation of a work of art, so no free image is possible, but I uploaded a new version that is within fair use policy. Amerique dialectics 21:50, 27 January 2010 (UTC) reply


WikiProject Cal Poly Pomona help needed

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Help us get the Cal Poly Pomona article to GA-status

Hello Amerique! I'm humbly requesting you help in order to get raise Cal Poly Pomona's main article to good article-status. Thank you. -- Marco Guzman, Jr ( talk) 01:12, 1 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Hello

Could you take a look at Talk:Los Angeles#CSA. House wants a 3rd opinion, it would be great if you could comment. SoCal L.A. ( talk) 03:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Hopefully i have. SoCal L.A. ( talk) 03:49, 2 February 2010 (UTC) reply

AN/I

I'm not going to war with you, but I was just wondering why you were removing content from the pages of the articles? You were just reported to AN/I. The thread is here. Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 02:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC) reply

I think we're about to mark that thread as resolved, but the basic outcome is that there is now a formal for his 1RR listed at Wikipedia:Editing restrictions#Placed by the Wikipedia community and I'll now be mentoring House and trying to play a more active role in working on this. If you have another conflict you can drop me a note and I'll try to work with you two on it. Here's an oldid link to the ANI discussion. - Optigan13 ( talk) 09:21, 5 February 2010 (UTC) reply
Wow, thanks for stepping up to the plate and doing that. I suppose whenever I have conflicts with House, I'll go to you first, if you aren't already "on the scene." Let me know whenever you want to make a run for admin, I'll definitely put in a good word for you. Best, Amerique dialectics 18:57, 5 February 2010 (UTC) reply
If it's on a specific article you can also just leave the note on the talk and ping me with a {{ talkback}} or a brief notice so that the discussion stays where future editors can find it. But if its all over the place a talk page will work. I felt since I already had the bulk of the material and usual parties on my watchlist, and was getting notices already it's probably the best way to go at this point. I'm also going to be scaling back the amount of time I spend doing other work on wiki just to not try and overwhelm myself since I've been going at a pretty rapid clip for some time and have a lot of stuff on my plate. - Optigan13 ( talk) 21:56, 5 February 2010 (UTC) reply
I noticed you were doing a lot. Well, hopefully your new responsibilities won't break your enthusiasm for Wikipedia. Take care, Amerique dialectics 22:13, 5 February 2010 (UTC) reply

I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:University of California, Santa Cruz/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells ( talk) 15:47, 19 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Look

I will use the talk page before I add a major comment, if you agree to do the same. Arguing wont get us no where. And I will add a reliable source in the future. House1090 ( talk) 01:04, 25 February 2010 (UTC) reply

FYI

FYI: In response to your comments I went ahead and created a straw man proposal for the metro area guidelines here. Feel free to peruse and criticize.

-- Mcorazao ( talk) 14:47, 1 March 2010 (UTC) reply

Thanks.

Thanks for the feedback. Some questions and comments:

  • "Treating the government as exclusively authoritative in such cases amounts to original research." While I agree that what you are talking about is a problem, the OR policy would not seem to apply, as gov sources are generally considered reliable. The problem is that some people editing in good faith without scholastic backgrounds can misapply any sources, including gov sources, generally by reading their terms too literally, or by otherwise not following the purpose of the document or the purpose of WP. These "local yokels" generally do not observe the policies or guidelines WP has in the first place, so developing a special guideline for regional articles may have limited effectiveness. However, so far as article titles are concerned, the relevant policy breach would seem to be: Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#Article_titles, rather than WP:NOR, as WP:RS has presumably been satisfied by the (mis)application of a gov source.
    • I don't follow your logic. Whether or not government sources are reliable sources is irrelevant. The issue is not whether the government is authoritative but whether the government is exclusively authoritative on the subject. Saying we can ignore the opinions of all other sources and treat one source as being the only one that matters is original research unless there is evidence that the experts believe that one source is truly the only opinion of merit on the subject. For example, if some book claimed Puerto Rico is a U.S. state it would be reasonable to reject that opinion even if the book was written by a serious author simply because the U.S. govt is the only entity with the legal authority to admit a state to the Union. However, if the federal government says somebody's favorite color is orange and but that person is quoted in by the newspapers as saying their favorite color is blue, there is no basis to claim that the govt has more authority in the matter than the newspapers. The govt has no legal authority to dictate what somebody's favorite color is any more than it has the authority to say which cities can consider themselves economically or culturally tied. -- Mcorazao ( talk) 23:02, 6 March 2010 (UTC) reply
  • WP:NOR applies when someone is stating opinions as fact, not when someone is applying a particular rs as "the Word of God" or something... it's a different issue. Perhaps WP:OWN is the more relevant policy. Amerique dialectics 23:25, 6 March 2010 (UTC) reply
  • WP:OWN is about disagreements between editors not disagreements between sources. I don't think that could be applied here. But wrt WP:NOR the applicable section would be Synthesis of published material that advances a position ( WP:SYNTH). For example, saying that the U.N. defines poverty as people earning less than XXX per year is fine if you cite U.N. publications or, better yet, 3rd parties that state the U.N.'s position. However, it is a different story to say that nobody is poor if they earn more than XXX per year and to reject definitions provided by journal articles, government studies, etc. Even if a few sources treat the U.N. as having unique authority, it is still WP:SYNTH to reject, on that basis, major sources that choose a different definition. It does not matter whether the U.N. is a reliable source in general. Making such a claim is, effectively, taking their authority out of context. -- Mcorazao ( talk) 00:21, 7 March 2010 (UTC) reply
  • As WP:SYNTH is written currently, a violation would seem to depend on whether there was some combination of sources used to advance a position that wasn't stated in the sources. SYNTH as written does not seem to cover over-reliance on a single source to advance some expressed or seemingly implied position, in or out of context. What you are talking about is a problem, but it has to do with a fundamental misreading or misuse of potentially any source, not only gov sources, that would only become noticeable or actionable when people try to WP:OWN their (mis)interpretations, so to speak. (Perhaps it might be useful to bring this up at the NOR page?) Amerique dialectics 01:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC) reply
Well, I guess WP:OWN could technically apply in that sense though this seems a stretch (to me WP:OWN applies more to preventing others from contributing as opposed to determining appropriate content). The "synthesis" I am talking about is combining
  1. the government's description of something and
  2. the fact that this description gets quoted in reliable sources
to claim that the government has exclusive authoritity in saying what a legitimate description of that thing is or that the government speaks for all experts on the subject. -- Mcorazao ( talk) 19:27, 8 March 2010 (UTC) reply
  • Using Google hit counts as proof... seems inconsistent with WP:COMMONNAME.
    • Why? The number of "hits" you get for any particular string does not establish in any way how common the name implied by that string is. It is typically the case that if you get 1000 hits for a given string the majority of them probably have nothing to do with what you were searching for (I have seen cases where virtually all of the hits have nothing to do with what I am searching for). Regardless, WP:Common name says we have to use reliable sources. A heuristic computer search does not apply (technically this is the very definition of original research). -- Mcorazao ( talk) 23:02, 6 March 2010 (UTC) reply
  • Oops, I meant to link to WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, but using search engine hits is just another way of determining what is conceivably "out there" on particular terms. I think you mean that search engine hits should not be taken didactically, and on this I agree, also as per my recent comments as Talk:Inland_Empire. Amerique dialectics 23:25, 6 March 2010 (UTC) reply
  • I guess we're saying the same things. As I say, the only thing I have found Google hit counts useful for is in some cases ruling out very non-notable names (i.e. the hit counts don't prove anything, but if I only get — say — a dozen hits for some name then I am usually pretty sure that spending more time looking at references for that name is a waste of time). Other than that, though, I generally ignore the hit counts and just look at the actual pages Google finds to see which ones genuinely refer to what I was searching for and which ones are reliable sources.
So how would you recommend rephrasing (feel free to edit the strawman if you like)? -- Mcorazao ( talk) 00:21, 7 March 2010 (UTC) reply
I'll see what I can do with it. But I think you would agree that some minimal scholastic background is required in order to discern sources, interpret them, and appropriately use them, right? Not all Wikipedians have that, which I view as the "primary source" of the problems I've been having. But on another note, perhaps it might be better to leave out discussion of policy violations for the time being and focus instead on the editing pragmatics of the guideline? 01:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC) Amerique dialectics
Yes, obviously one has to be educated enough on the issues to understand the sources. There is no simple solution, unfortunately, to deal with that.
If you feel better about not mentioning other policies I'm ok with changing it. My thinking is that it is helpful to relate this guideline to other guidelines and policies explicitly so as to help the reader understand how all of the guidelines relate (i.e. sometimes if the reader is unclear on what they are reading, relating it to something they are more familiar with can make things more clear). But it's debatable ... -- Mcorazao ( talk) 19:33, 8 March 2010 (UTC) reply
I went ahead and took out the mention of WP:OR ... -- Mcorazao ( talk) 21:11, 8 March 2010 (UTC) reply

BTW, thanks again for taking the time to review so thoroughly. -- Mcorazao ( talk) 00:21, 7 March 2010 (UTC) reply

Sorry I haven't had a chance to work on this. But your revisions look very good. I would support this as an addendum to WP:USCITY. Ameriquedialectics 19:43, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Or as it's own guideline. Good job on this! Ameriquedialectics
Thanks. It looks like this will be an uphill battle. There are already two people who have said they don't want this. I guess maybe the best thing to do is to put forward a survey to guage concensus. -- Mcorazao ( talk) 20:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC) reply
FYI: I posted the survey here. -- Mcorazao ( talk) 18:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC) reply
Replied there. I'll keep an eye on the discussion. Amerique dialectics 19:26, 11 March 2010 (UTC) reply

Re: RFC, you haven't structured it in terms of a proposition to support or oppose, etc. I would put it in project space and request comments on whether it should be a guideline. It could still be effective as an essay if it does not gain consensus as a guideline. Amerique dialectics 20:35, 11 March 2010 (UTC) reply

The reason I did not try to put it in project space is that I am not a member of WikiProject Cities and have not been actively involved. So I did not feel it was appropriate for me to start polluting the project's space without gaining a first level of consensus that this was something project members supported.
I'll rephrase the question for clarity, though. -- Mcorazao ( talk) 21:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC) reply

new page

FYI: I don't know if you noticed but I went ahead and created Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/Conurbation guidelines at the request of one of the other editors. It is for now tagged as simply an essay. -- Mcorazao ( talk) 18:10, 23 March 2010 (UTC) reply

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Amerique have to respectfully disagreed with you about the lawsuit. Not quite sure what you mean by "unsubstantiated" but if you mean verifiable, it was cited at an independent legal journal. I also don't think there's any NPOV violation. If you think, non-noteworthy, why don't we open it open for community discussion since that opinions can vary on that. I'm going to check the discussion forum to see what's posted there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donselma ( talkcontribs) 03:25, 15 March 2010 (UTC) reply

Donselma ( talk) 03:26, 15 March 2010 (UTC) reply

hey, i think you're right. just got your message. very good point about plaintiff losing. i thought maybe because of the initial settlement, which suggests he did have a case, but you're messaged has changed my thinking . . . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donselma ( talkcontribs) 22:54, 15 March 2010 (UTC) reply

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Thanks!

Hi Amerique, thanks for cleaning up the vandalism from my user page. I really appreciate it. Alanraywiki ( talk) 16:56, 14 April 2010 (UTC) reply

Thought I'd drop this off

The California Star
For your work on Inland Empire-related articles, I award you this star. Thanks for your contributions! TorriTorri( Talk to me!) 03:15, 19 April 2010 (UTC) reply
Thanks TorriTorri! Amerique dialectics 19:58, 19 April 2010 (UTC) reply

WikiProject Theoretical Linguistics

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Welcome back

I haven't seen you around Wikipedia much lately, glad to see your edits popping up again! Alanraywiki ( talk) 20:25, 13 October 2010 (UTC) reply

Thanks Alan! Only so much of this place I can take and save my sanity, but I hope to be able to make some constructive edits here and there. Amerique dialectics 20:30, 13 October 2010 (UTC) reply

California

I saw you help in California cities. I could use help in Chula Vista article. I want to try to get it to FA before its centennial next year. I know you work mostly in Inland Empire articles but both are kinda close to each other, both are in Southern California. if your not interested its ok. Spongie555 ( talk) 02:21, 14 October 2010 (UTC) reply

I'll take a look at it & see what I can do for it. Amerique dialectics 20:48, 14 October 2010 (UTC) reply
One problem of the Chula Vista article is that the history was taken from the Cities website where they give a brief history. Spongie555 ( talk) 03:09, 15 October 2010 (UTC) reply
If that's the case, that section will have to be entirely removed & re-written, noting the city website as a source. (Incidentally, I'll respond to questions on developing the article on the article talk page.) Amerique dialectics 20:18, 15 October 2010 (UTC) reply
Message on the talk page. Spongie555 ( talk) 03:33, 19 October 2010 (UTC) reply
It is hard finding 3rd part resources. Also reminding me of books, Chula Vista is making a book about its complete history for its Centennial. It is being written by a historian but i dont know when its coming out. Spongie555 ( talk) 03:56, 20 October 2010 (UTC) reply
Thank you for the 3rd avenue picture I been looking for a picture like this or a while but couldn't find any in public domain. Spongie555 ( talk) 23:29, 27 October 2010 (UTC) reply

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Chula Vista

I know the Chula Vista article is a huge mess but the book on Chula Vista's history is coming out soon. But i thought you would be interested in getting Southwestern College (California) to GA? I know its not a University but its the only college in Chula Vista(Unless they agree to make the University of Chula Vista they always talk about) and i saw you work with university articles. Spongie555 ( talk) 05:01, 20 January 2011 (UTC) reply

Can't help now... But CV won Forbes' "most boring city" award specifically because there was no media reporting on it. Can't write an article without sources. Amerique dialectics 04:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC) reply

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Response to "Welcome!"

Hello Amerique. Thank you for the welcome, and the references you provided. I'll probably have some questions from time to time, but am limited on how much time I can spend on wikipedia. Feel free to run any ideas past me. Some things I think I am good at are organizing and categorizing information and rewording things to just the essentials. MissionInn.Jim ( talk) 04:46, 7 July 2009 (UTC) reply

Believe me, I'm just happy to have someone literate police the IE-related articles. I see you've become acquainted with Wikipedia's resident "expert" on the region... Most of my recent edits may be considered "housekeeping." Amerique dialectics 05:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC) reply


The IE needs Help

So since you are intrested in the Inland Empire (California) area, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Inland Empire and join if you like. It is a newly formed wikiproject that I just created. House1090 ( talk) 05:39, 7 July 2009 (UTC) reply

I added the Wikiproject IE user box, hope you dont mind. House1090 ( talk) 22:51, 7 July 2009 (UTC) reply
It's nice. Thanks, Amerique dialectics 23:17, 7 July 2009 (UTC) reply

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Your even-handed approach and contributions at UCSD are appreciated. Thanks! -- Born2cycle ( talk) 21:59, 21 July 2009 (UTC) reply


Riverside in SBV

Hi Amerique thanks for your contributions to the Greater San Bernardino Area article, but riverside is not in the SB Valley. I tend to believe that Riverside is in the Perris Valley, I just asked User:MissionInn.Jim since he is an expert, if I may say, in the Riverside Area to verify that for me or to see if I am wrong, which I could be. I think Riverside is in the Perris Valley because I read in a Press Enterprise newspaper article stating that the Perris Valley was going to get a new metrolink line, being called the Perris Valley Line, which included Riverside. So I thought I let you know that I am working on a Perris Valley Article for wikipedia, which includeds the cities of Rubidoux, Moreno Valley, Riverside, Perris, and Corona (I may be missing some cities). House1090 ( talk) 22:17, 4 August 2009 (UTC) reply

Pittsburg State

No I was going to add a refrence/source but wikipedia did not let me it told me something about a block or something about the site or something like that. I will try again see what happens if try it for your self so that way you know iI am not makeing it up. House1090 ( talk) 22:58, 7 August 2009 (UTC) reply

I understand I would be, but I thought if I added a source or a refrence it would be fine here in Wikipedia. Thanks for letting me know, but what if I rewrote but still included some of the info, will that be okay? Will I need to provid a source or a refrence, even though it wont let me? House1090 ( talk) 23:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC) reply
Just don't use that site, and don't make direct copies. This site is considered ok: [1]. Amerique dialectics 23:27, 7 August 2009 (UTC) reply
Ok then and dont worry it wont happen again, it just I thought it would be fine with a source. House1090 ( talk) 23:33, 7 August 2009 (UTC) reply

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Thanks for your pictures of the Inland Empire, we needed them. House1090 ( talk) 02:35, 6 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Please see my comments at that thread. If you would like help or advice on procedural matters, please do not hesitate to contact me. - 2/0 ( cont.) 20:29, 8 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Thanks. I use preview. I generally mean what I write; I don't think my use of preview is an issue here. However, anyone who bothers to fix House's edits can be accused of edit warring due to his misplaced sense of ownership/pride in the IE, etc. Following your suggestion, a "local" discussion over how to handle the House account at will be initiated at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject California when I have more time for this. Amerique dialectics 21:07, 8 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Oops, the link to WP:TWWPK was directed at myself, as I made a truly silly formatting error and so had to post here twice. - 2/0 ( cont.) 21:17, 8 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Inland Empire comments

I protected the page and left a note on the talk page, as I'm sure you saw. Please drop me a line if I can be of assistance- unprotecting, warning, blocking, commenting on the WT:CAL or Talk:Inland Empire threads. tedder ( talk) 07:24, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Thanks, I was just about to note that @An3. Will be collating diffs for a topic ban request at AN, hopefully by next week. Will continue discussion in the meantime. Amerique dialectics 07:32, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Okay. Maybe prepare the diffs on a subpage- I'd be curious to see them. tedder ( talk) 07:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Ok, I'll make a start on this process on a subpage tomorrow. Going to sleep. Thanks again, Amerique dialectics 07:37, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply

"Handling ..." discussion header on WT:CAL

I've refactored the header to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject California#Handling House1090 and moved the User5 template just below so the section link will work. I'm trying to come up with a solution where the content is improved, and you aren't stuck policing articles for quality. I'm assuming you'd rather be developing articles than arguing with strangers on the internet. I'll try to chime in with my two cents on the IE article's talk in a bit. - Optigan13 ( talk) 10:41, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Oh, and [[wikt:Suffer fools gladly|Suffer fools gladly]] will produce a wiktionary interwiki Suffer fools gladly if you didn't know that trick already ( Help:Interwiki linking#Project titles and shortcuts). - Optigan13 ( talk) 10:56, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the tip. I agree with your proposal at WT:CAL, but will let House chime in first. Will be starting up an ongoing case file on a user-subpage soon. (I'm ok with policing articles, if it were only that, but as you can probably tell I have a low tolerance for ignorance or misplaced egotism posing as authority.) Amerique dialectics 21:19, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply
There you go being mean again, now you know why I get mad at you. You need to learn to be nice and not insult your peers. House1090 ( talk) 00:58, 10 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Looking forward to engaging with you more on article talk pages. Amerique dialectics 01:00, 10 December 2009 (UTC) reply

I've posted some more formal wording to this whole arrangement on WT:CAL. Also, I know I said I would try and weigh in on the content, but I've decided it's best if I stay out of the content side of things on IE articles to remain relatively neutral on this in case it requires any escalation. - Optigan13 ( talk) 08:54, 15 December 2009 (UTC) reply

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It's a representation of a work of art, so no free image is possible, but I uploaded a new version that is within fair use policy. Amerique dialectics 21:50, 27 January 2010 (UTC) reply


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Help us get the Cal Poly Pomona article to GA-status

Hello Amerique! I'm humbly requesting you help in order to get raise Cal Poly Pomona's main article to good article-status. Thank you. -- Marco Guzman, Jr ( talk) 01:12, 1 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Hello

Could you take a look at Talk:Los Angeles#CSA. House wants a 3rd opinion, it would be great if you could comment. SoCal L.A. ( talk) 03:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Hopefully i have. SoCal L.A. ( talk) 03:49, 2 February 2010 (UTC) reply

AN/I

I'm not going to war with you, but I was just wondering why you were removing content from the pages of the articles? You were just reported to AN/I. The thread is here. Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 02:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC) reply

I think we're about to mark that thread as resolved, but the basic outcome is that there is now a formal for his 1RR listed at Wikipedia:Editing restrictions#Placed by the Wikipedia community and I'll now be mentoring House and trying to play a more active role in working on this. If you have another conflict you can drop me a note and I'll try to work with you two on it. Here's an oldid link to the ANI discussion. - Optigan13 ( talk) 09:21, 5 February 2010 (UTC) reply
Wow, thanks for stepping up to the plate and doing that. I suppose whenever I have conflicts with House, I'll go to you first, if you aren't already "on the scene." Let me know whenever you want to make a run for admin, I'll definitely put in a good word for you. Best, Amerique dialectics 18:57, 5 February 2010 (UTC) reply
If it's on a specific article you can also just leave the note on the talk and ping me with a {{ talkback}} or a brief notice so that the discussion stays where future editors can find it. But if its all over the place a talk page will work. I felt since I already had the bulk of the material and usual parties on my watchlist, and was getting notices already it's probably the best way to go at this point. I'm also going to be scaling back the amount of time I spend doing other work on wiki just to not try and overwhelm myself since I've been going at a pretty rapid clip for some time and have a lot of stuff on my plate. - Optigan13 ( talk) 21:56, 5 February 2010 (UTC) reply
I noticed you were doing a lot. Well, hopefully your new responsibilities won't break your enthusiasm for Wikipedia. Take care, Amerique dialectics 22:13, 5 February 2010 (UTC) reply

I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:University of California, Santa Cruz/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells ( talk) 15:47, 19 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Look

I will use the talk page before I add a major comment, if you agree to do the same. Arguing wont get us no where. And I will add a reliable source in the future. House1090 ( talk) 01:04, 25 February 2010 (UTC) reply

FYI

FYI: In response to your comments I went ahead and created a straw man proposal for the metro area guidelines here. Feel free to peruse and criticize.

-- Mcorazao ( talk) 14:47, 1 March 2010 (UTC) reply

Thanks.

Thanks for the feedback. Some questions and comments:

  • "Treating the government as exclusively authoritative in such cases amounts to original research." While I agree that what you are talking about is a problem, the OR policy would not seem to apply, as gov sources are generally considered reliable. The problem is that some people editing in good faith without scholastic backgrounds can misapply any sources, including gov sources, generally by reading their terms too literally, or by otherwise not following the purpose of the document or the purpose of WP. These "local yokels" generally do not observe the policies or guidelines WP has in the first place, so developing a special guideline for regional articles may have limited effectiveness. However, so far as article titles are concerned, the relevant policy breach would seem to be: Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#Article_titles, rather than WP:NOR, as WP:RS has presumably been satisfied by the (mis)application of a gov source.
    • I don't follow your logic. Whether or not government sources are reliable sources is irrelevant. The issue is not whether the government is authoritative but whether the government is exclusively authoritative on the subject. Saying we can ignore the opinions of all other sources and treat one source as being the only one that matters is original research unless there is evidence that the experts believe that one source is truly the only opinion of merit on the subject. For example, if some book claimed Puerto Rico is a U.S. state it would be reasonable to reject that opinion even if the book was written by a serious author simply because the U.S. govt is the only entity with the legal authority to admit a state to the Union. However, if the federal government says somebody's favorite color is orange and but that person is quoted in by the newspapers as saying their favorite color is blue, there is no basis to claim that the govt has more authority in the matter than the newspapers. The govt has no legal authority to dictate what somebody's favorite color is any more than it has the authority to say which cities can consider themselves economically or culturally tied. -- Mcorazao ( talk) 23:02, 6 March 2010 (UTC) reply
  • WP:NOR applies when someone is stating opinions as fact, not when someone is applying a particular rs as "the Word of God" or something... it's a different issue. Perhaps WP:OWN is the more relevant policy. Amerique dialectics 23:25, 6 March 2010 (UTC) reply
  • WP:OWN is about disagreements between editors not disagreements between sources. I don't think that could be applied here. But wrt WP:NOR the applicable section would be Synthesis of published material that advances a position ( WP:SYNTH). For example, saying that the U.N. defines poverty as people earning less than XXX per year is fine if you cite U.N. publications or, better yet, 3rd parties that state the U.N.'s position. However, it is a different story to say that nobody is poor if they earn more than XXX per year and to reject definitions provided by journal articles, government studies, etc. Even if a few sources treat the U.N. as having unique authority, it is still WP:SYNTH to reject, on that basis, major sources that choose a different definition. It does not matter whether the U.N. is a reliable source in general. Making such a claim is, effectively, taking their authority out of context. -- Mcorazao ( talk) 00:21, 7 March 2010 (UTC) reply
  • As WP:SYNTH is written currently, a violation would seem to depend on whether there was some combination of sources used to advance a position that wasn't stated in the sources. SYNTH as written does not seem to cover over-reliance on a single source to advance some expressed or seemingly implied position, in or out of context. What you are talking about is a problem, but it has to do with a fundamental misreading or misuse of potentially any source, not only gov sources, that would only become noticeable or actionable when people try to WP:OWN their (mis)interpretations, so to speak. (Perhaps it might be useful to bring this up at the NOR page?) Amerique dialectics 01:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC) reply
Well, I guess WP:OWN could technically apply in that sense though this seems a stretch (to me WP:OWN applies more to preventing others from contributing as opposed to determining appropriate content). The "synthesis" I am talking about is combining
  1. the government's description of something and
  2. the fact that this description gets quoted in reliable sources
to claim that the government has exclusive authoritity in saying what a legitimate description of that thing is or that the government speaks for all experts on the subject. -- Mcorazao ( talk) 19:27, 8 March 2010 (UTC) reply
  • Using Google hit counts as proof... seems inconsistent with WP:COMMONNAME.
    • Why? The number of "hits" you get for any particular string does not establish in any way how common the name implied by that string is. It is typically the case that if you get 1000 hits for a given string the majority of them probably have nothing to do with what you were searching for (I have seen cases where virtually all of the hits have nothing to do with what I am searching for). Regardless, WP:Common name says we have to use reliable sources. A heuristic computer search does not apply (technically this is the very definition of original research). -- Mcorazao ( talk) 23:02, 6 March 2010 (UTC) reply
  • Oops, I meant to link to WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, but using search engine hits is just another way of determining what is conceivably "out there" on particular terms. I think you mean that search engine hits should not be taken didactically, and on this I agree, also as per my recent comments as Talk:Inland_Empire. Amerique dialectics 23:25, 6 March 2010 (UTC) reply
  • I guess we're saying the same things. As I say, the only thing I have found Google hit counts useful for is in some cases ruling out very non-notable names (i.e. the hit counts don't prove anything, but if I only get — say — a dozen hits for some name then I am usually pretty sure that spending more time looking at references for that name is a waste of time). Other than that, though, I generally ignore the hit counts and just look at the actual pages Google finds to see which ones genuinely refer to what I was searching for and which ones are reliable sources.
So how would you recommend rephrasing (feel free to edit the strawman if you like)? -- Mcorazao ( talk) 00:21, 7 March 2010 (UTC) reply
I'll see what I can do with it. But I think you would agree that some minimal scholastic background is required in order to discern sources, interpret them, and appropriately use them, right? Not all Wikipedians have that, which I view as the "primary source" of the problems I've been having. But on another note, perhaps it might be better to leave out discussion of policy violations for the time being and focus instead on the editing pragmatics of the guideline? 01:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC) Amerique dialectics
Yes, obviously one has to be educated enough on the issues to understand the sources. There is no simple solution, unfortunately, to deal with that.
If you feel better about not mentioning other policies I'm ok with changing it. My thinking is that it is helpful to relate this guideline to other guidelines and policies explicitly so as to help the reader understand how all of the guidelines relate (i.e. sometimes if the reader is unclear on what they are reading, relating it to something they are more familiar with can make things more clear). But it's debatable ... -- Mcorazao ( talk) 19:33, 8 March 2010 (UTC) reply
I went ahead and took out the mention of WP:OR ... -- Mcorazao ( talk) 21:11, 8 March 2010 (UTC) reply

BTW, thanks again for taking the time to review so thoroughly. -- Mcorazao ( talk) 00:21, 7 March 2010 (UTC) reply

Sorry I haven't had a chance to work on this. But your revisions look very good. I would support this as an addendum to WP:USCITY. Ameriquedialectics 19:43, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Or as it's own guideline. Good job on this! Ameriquedialectics
Thanks. It looks like this will be an uphill battle. There are already two people who have said they don't want this. I guess maybe the best thing to do is to put forward a survey to guage concensus. -- Mcorazao ( talk) 20:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC) reply
FYI: I posted the survey here. -- Mcorazao ( talk) 18:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC) reply
Replied there. I'll keep an eye on the discussion. Amerique dialectics 19:26, 11 March 2010 (UTC) reply

Re: RFC, you haven't structured it in terms of a proposition to support or oppose, etc. I would put it in project space and request comments on whether it should be a guideline. It could still be effective as an essay if it does not gain consensus as a guideline. Amerique dialectics 20:35, 11 March 2010 (UTC) reply

The reason I did not try to put it in project space is that I am not a member of WikiProject Cities and have not been actively involved. So I did not feel it was appropriate for me to start polluting the project's space without gaining a first level of consensus that this was something project members supported.
I'll rephrase the question for clarity, though. -- Mcorazao ( talk) 21:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC) reply

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Amerique have to respectfully disagreed with you about the lawsuit. Not quite sure what you mean by "unsubstantiated" but if you mean verifiable, it was cited at an independent legal journal. I also don't think there's any NPOV violation. If you think, non-noteworthy, why don't we open it open for community discussion since that opinions can vary on that. I'm going to check the discussion forum to see what's posted there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donselma ( talkcontribs) 03:25, 15 March 2010 (UTC) reply

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hey, i think you're right. just got your message. very good point about plaintiff losing. i thought maybe because of the initial settlement, which suggests he did have a case, but you're messaged has changed my thinking . . . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donselma ( talkcontribs) 22:54, 15 March 2010 (UTC) reply

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I haven't seen you around Wikipedia much lately, glad to see your edits popping up again! Alanraywiki ( talk) 20:25, 13 October 2010 (UTC) reply

Thanks Alan! Only so much of this place I can take and save my sanity, but I hope to be able to make some constructive edits here and there. Amerique dialectics 20:30, 13 October 2010 (UTC) reply

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I saw you help in California cities. I could use help in Chula Vista article. I want to try to get it to FA before its centennial next year. I know you work mostly in Inland Empire articles but both are kinda close to each other, both are in Southern California. if your not interested its ok. Spongie555 ( talk) 02:21, 14 October 2010 (UTC) reply

I'll take a look at it & see what I can do for it. Amerique dialectics 20:48, 14 October 2010 (UTC) reply
One problem of the Chula Vista article is that the history was taken from the Cities website where they give a brief history. Spongie555 ( talk) 03:09, 15 October 2010 (UTC) reply
If that's the case, that section will have to be entirely removed & re-written, noting the city website as a source. (Incidentally, I'll respond to questions on developing the article on the article talk page.) Amerique dialectics 20:18, 15 October 2010 (UTC) reply
Message on the talk page. Spongie555 ( talk) 03:33, 19 October 2010 (UTC) reply
It is hard finding 3rd part resources. Also reminding me of books, Chula Vista is making a book about its complete history for its Centennial. It is being written by a historian but i dont know when its coming out. Spongie555 ( talk) 03:56, 20 October 2010 (UTC) reply
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Chula Vista

I know the Chula Vista article is a huge mess but the book on Chula Vista's history is coming out soon. But i thought you would be interested in getting Southwestern College (California) to GA? I know its not a University but its the only college in Chula Vista(Unless they agree to make the University of Chula Vista they always talk about) and i saw you work with university articles. Spongie555 ( talk) 05:01, 20 January 2011 (UTC) reply

Can't help now... But CV won Forbes' "most boring city" award specifically because there was no media reporting on it. Can't write an article without sources. Amerique dialectics 04:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC) reply

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