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My objection with listing Liam Millar as "Liverpool U23s" is that Canada Soccer is the only source that has him on that team, and Canada soccer recently had Lucas Cavallini as a member of Atlas when that appeared to be completely false. Listing him as simply "Liverpool" is automatically correct given his loan is over at Killie and he is in the Liverpool organization at the moment. Unless another source shows "Liverpool U23s" we should stick with just Liverpool. TrailBlzr ( talk) 21:03, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, I wasn't on the page I had thought I was. Red Jay ( talk) 14:10, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
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Phelps may be notable simply for not being notable-- This is the most likely possibility; after a few years, we will probably get enough articles all of whom state nothing but that her article was unfairly deleted from en-wiki :-( ∯WBG converse 13:59, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, I'm Dmehus. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Canada Computers, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources, or if you think I made a mistake, you can reply here, possibly with a ping to me. I appreciate your good faith edits of Canada Computers in which you attempted to add two citations. In both cases, the articles cited were either irrelevant or tangentially relevant. In the former, the blog post/article referred to "The Hut Dog" but made no mention of the article's subject. In the latter, it made reference to a fire in a building rented by post-secondary students which one of this non-notable computer retailer's store locations had a fire. Such details are trivial and hardly worthy of a mention in an encyclopedia. Doug Mehus ( talk) 17:51, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Sorry to message you on your talk page, but the ANI thread was closed before I noticed it. (I regularly Ctrl+F the page for "Japan" to see if my help is needed, but I've been quite distracted of late -- I actually did notice the thread a few days ago and stayed away for my own reasons; I didn't notice アリ until just now, though.)
You recently referred, on ANI, to an edit saying that the Japanese girl's name "Ari" meant "ant" as being correct and not nonsense. This seems ... questionable. Japanese is infamous for its large number of homonyms, and while Kojien only lists the words for ant and "to be"(-ish), it has never occurred to me that the girl's name "Ari" could come from the word for "ant". It's never written with the character 蟻 -- https://tangorin.com/names?search=%E3%81%82%E3%82%8A lists 44 different ways of writing it as a "female given name", and 蟻 is only given (questionably) in one that it lists as a "family name / given name".
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 15:26, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
I apologize if our recent interaction on ANI got a little heated. I've been under a lot of stress lately for ... reasons. I think you and I disagree as to whether it is acceptable to call a certain type of edit "complete nonsense", but now that the editor who actually did that has been indeffed for probably unrelated reasons, I see no reason why we can't move forward, agree to disagree on minor trifles like that, and behave in a collegial manner toward each other. In that spirit, I would like express regret over that recent tiff on the noticeboards. Kind regards, and happy editing! Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 02:48, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
You forgot to sign it. — AdamF in MO ( talk) 01:34, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
I appreciate your contributions! Thanks for continuing to make Wikipedia a productive space. Lightburst ( talk) 00:48, 7 November 2019 (UTC) |
Hi, just to let you know in case you didn't yet notice, the Mark Bourrie article was recently mentioned at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Mark Bourrie. Yes by socks, but per DOLT etc, some regulars did check out to see if there was anything that could be improved in the article hence the recent edits. Nil Einne ( talk) 10:29, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Atlético Ottawa. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 20:06, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Hey, I'm still getting my head wrapped around the concept of WP:GNG. For example, would Ali Al Haj and Peter Khalife pass, in your opinion? Nehme1499 ( talk) 16:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
The difference between the two is that, while Al Haj has double the references, most if not all are just trivial mentions. Khalife has 7 pages talking solely about him ( Jbeil Daily News, Malaaeb, sports-961, flyfoot, elsport, laebarabi, football-lebanon). So idk, because I've always been sure of the notability of the people of whom I've created the pages, since they all pass WP:NFOOTY. This would be my first case in publishing pages which don't satisfy it, so I want to be extra careful ahaha. Nehme1499 ( talk) 13:52, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm not sure what conclusion you can draw from the pages edited (Except they all edited Freud), but one thing is certain, they all edited at the same time (same times of day) and meaning Skoojal and FKC are in the same time zone.
The latter two are blocked socks of FKC. He iro 22:49, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
If you want a second set of eyes on the sources before you move it back to mainspace, feel free to ping me and I'll have a look. SportingFlyer T· C 04:07, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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I don't think speedy or prod's will work, I believe they will all have to go through AfD. Cheers. Govvy ( talk) 09:36, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
In this edit, you reverted my change with the comment "no indication on why this content was removed" - but actually, my edit added content, while yours removed it again. Are you aware of that? Korny O'Near ( talk) 14:32, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
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Please be careful about WP:3RR on Jeremy Clarkson. You are very close to it at the moment. Please offer your thoughts on the talk page where the other editor has started a new section to discuss this issue. Woody ( talk) 20:31, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Hindsight ia a glorious thing: I should not have labelled it as 3RR nor gone into reverts, this was a note about edit warring more than the bright line of 3RR. I didn't want to template the regulars rather I had hoped to stop any more reverts and push it to the talk page. In terms of not being complete reverts and being amended text I take your point: it wasn't a plain revert, but your edit was still contested and that should have then gone to the talk page rather than long edit summary discussion. Sadly, I'm continuously amazed by what is deemed contentious on Wikipedia and I don't think it will ever cease to amaze me. In terms of your last paragraph Nfitz and your responses Davey2010 I think these would be much better placed at the article talk page so it can go towards addressing the issue in one place: preferably on the article talk page as it pertains to article content. Cheers, Woody ( talk) 23:18, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
I do not have a issue with the club, I am just nominating non-league seasons which should never have been created anyway. (Also I'm not just nominating Newport articles. I am focusing on non-league season articles in general, and Newport seem to have a lot of them). REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 15:57, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Hey there! I just wanted to possibly give you a quick word of advice about Talk:Proud Boys#Claim that Proud Boys are racist - while I'm sure you absolutely mean well and are just trying to ensure that the other editor is aware of one of the ways that their messages may be interpreted, it's always best to assume good faith and not allege that they're spreading discriminatory beliefs. I've archived the discussion just to try and prevent any heated arguments, and to help keep the talk page on-topic, since the edit request it's related to is has already been answered. ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 08:05, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Editing Scapegoat ( talk) 22:30, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
I'd expect you to know this, but you should not copy & paste content from sandboxes/drafts into mainspace articles. Giant Snowman 19:37, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
As it seems your are an experienced editor here with more than 15 years of contributing, would be my please if you help me in some articles that I might have problems or questions. Thanks -- Thedunker66 ( talk) 11:27, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
In case you saw my recent contribution to the discussion, I thought your signature said Keyswab, which led me to misinterpret it as them saying that we should negate the results because Fox said it. It wasn't directed at you and I've recanted, so I hope it didn't offend you. ;) DÅRTHBØTTØ ( T• C) 21:17, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
Hallo, you participated in this discussion in its early stages. Therefore, I would take the liberty to ask you if you would like to review 2014–15 FC Winterthur season again. In the meantime, I have added texts and citations. Perhaps you would like to add a new comment, and perhaps with a couple of suggestions, to the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2014–15 FC Winterthur season discussion page. Your opinion would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your participation and please feel free to delete this message from your page, if you so wish. Thanks again and kindest greetings from Switzerland -- Huligan0 ( talk) 22:05, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Hey, just a heads up that it looks like you forgot to sign your comment on the RfD for Capitol Insurrection. I left an {{ unsigned}} note, but feel free to replace it. Thanks for contributing to the discussion! Spurrious Correlation 23:52, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Nice to meet you again. As you are one of the active participants in AFDs, i request you to please have a look at this case. As there are so many pending AFDs to be resolved and so less volunteers, your assistance will help us reduce the workload drop by drop. Thank You, Pesticide1110 Lets wrestle! 15:42, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Q5: The second sentence in the guideline says "The article must provide reliable sources showing that the subject meets the general notability guideline or the sport specific criteria set forth below." Does this mean that the general notability guideline doesn't have to be met?
A5: No; as per Q1 and Q2, eventually sources must be provided showing that the general notability guideline is met. This sentence is just emphasizing that the article must always cite reliable sources to support a claim of meeting Wikipedia's notability standards, whether it is the criteria set by the sports-specific notability guidelines, or the general notability guideline.
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Thanks again for flagging that resource in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kennedy Cartoons. I reached out at Wikipedia_talk:The_Wikipedia_Library#Access_issue and they were able to solve it. Look forward to using it to access more older articles. Star Mississippi 15:32, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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For your help, I appreciated it. Lightburst ( talk) 14:29, 4 November 2021 (UTC) |
Thanks for your responses at the Deletion Review and on Doczilla's talk. Given the first Afd, where it listed references, I saw no need to list them again.
I was looking for an archive of the now deleted article too. Any suggestions? -- Hipal ( talk) 22:19, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
The personal commentary [2] is not appreciated and disruptive. Please remember to focus on content and policy, and work cooperatively with your fellow editors. -- Hipal ( talk) 15:39, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
I saw
your DRV comment of Our job is to make sure there was consensus in that discussion to delete the article (and I don't see it.
Just FYI, it seems that you have not placed a formal (i.e. bolded) !vote for that
specific E. J. Jones (rugby_union) thread. Regards.—
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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Wikipedia:Notability (sports). This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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This is a blatant and knowledgeable violation of WP:INVOLVED by User:Wugapodes and I request that this be reverted and that he be blocked from my talk page. (not that I have any intention of editing NSPORT for the next 24 hours anyhow). Nfitz ( talk) 22:13, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
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Not an unblock request. --jpgordon 𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 23:17, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
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Request reason:
There was a violation of WP:INVOLVED by User:Wugapodes, who is very much involved with the changes at NSPORT (diffs - one, two, three and I request that that the block be reverted due to their violation of INVOLVED. I've twice politely queried User:Jpgordon on how that isn't an unblock request, but they have chosen not to answer. Nfitz ( talk) 17:41, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You were not edit warring with Wugapodes. They are not involved. Since this is only a partial block, you should bring any grievances with other users to the appropriate forum. 331dot ( talk) 19:25, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
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Thank you for support in the RfC for DYK - music with a chance to listen, - the piece by Anna Korsun begins after about one hour, and the voices afterwards call "Freiheit!" instead of "Freude". Music every day, pictured in songs. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 11:22, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
The Prayer is on the Main page, finally + new flowers, and btw: the TFA is a young writer's first -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:24, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
I just saw the above at WP:ANI.
Please don't. According to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Strong national ties to a topic "Articles related to Canada may use either format with (as always) consistency within each article." So no date format template, {{ Use mdy dates}} or {{ Use dmy dates}}, should be used until there is an actual date put in. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 18:49, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello, Nfitz,
Thank you for creating redirects from some articles that were recently PROD'd. I think in these cases, redirecting the page was the better solution than deletion. The high number of articles tagged with PRODs for today was definitely an anomaly that will not be repeated. I appreciate editors like yourself that review articles that have been PROD'd and either find some additional sources or come up with a better solution than deletion. Many thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 23:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
If you're going to say something like that, can you please WP:PROVEIT and add the sources somewhere? Even just dump them in the AFD? That's really all I want from you. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 21:37, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to assume bad faith when dealing with other editors, you may be blocked from editing. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Wikipedia. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 21:15, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I'm TenPoundHammer. I noticed that you made a comment on the page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bumper Stumpers that didn't seem very civil, so it may have been removed. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 00:37, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
It might have an article on Italian wikipedia but I can't find anything in decent about the article. I think it should be deleted.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:22, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 00:52, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
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Just noting that the Gotthard Base Tunnel has no stations within it, and was not dug in a large metropolitan area, that's why it was cheaper. 331dot ( talk) 09:53, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Im sorry you took that as a lack of AGF, I do certainly assume that good faith. I was just going to bed and was looking for outside views. That was not meant to be an attack on you at all, but sorry if it came off as aggressive. nableezy - 12:34, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi Nfitz Im sorry to bother you but User:HugoAcosta9 is still be blocked undefinitely, he really apologizes for his behaviour can yo do something with an administrator or in a topic in ANI to unblock him?. Actually, he apologizes for his not appropriate comments in ANI but sputnik and bb253 deleted his apology. We miss his articles, they have excellent prose a little unorthodox but they are fine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2806:2F0:31C0:AC8:84C5:A9C6:C132:B7DA ( talk) 17:04, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
Pro forma notification re: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Long_stale_DRV although I don't think it's actually required in this case. We're all on the same page. Have a great day! Star Mississippi 20:09, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
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As requested, I've restored these articles as drafts in your user space:
– Joe ( talk) 07:07, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for reaching out, I appreciate it. My main point is that we have many, many human name articles where it's like a dozen names and a handful of surnames, or vice versa, and nobody ever complains about them being together. For Joseph, it's not a handful. In this case, people actually found the two surnames after the AfD was filed, and added them there instead of the main article. The separation can make sense, but this one seems contrived. -- Joy [shallot] ( talk) 08:35, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Enough already, you should read the City of Toronto Act, and all major news sources in Canada.
Once the resignation takes place, the deputy mayor assumes the role of mayor and Council meets to declare the office of mayor vacant and within 60 days of the office being declared vacant must pass a bylaw requiring a by-election to take place.
Everything you commented was just speculation, not grounded in real facts and news sources. Even if McKelvie were to run herself, that does not negate the fact that she is deputy mayor and as per City of Toronto the deputy mayor succeeds the mayor. She has not resigned as deputy mayor, and if she wanted to, that is just speculation and there is a process for succession as well. For McKelvie not to be acting mayor would require both Tory and McKelvie to both resign their positions at the exact same time, of which there is no indication of such a thing happening.
“The City of Toronto Act says that once a city council member, including the mayor, resigns, council must declare their seat vacant at their next meeting. In this instance, that could happen as soon as Wednesday, when city council votes on the latest budget, but it will depend on whether Tory steps down before then. Within 60 days of the the mayor's seat being declared open, city council must pass a bylaw requiring that a byelection be held to fill the vacancy, according to the act.”
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6745210
“Under the City of Toronto Act, Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie will now take over the job until a byelection can be held. She is likely to remain in the job for a period of months, as the City of Toronto Act requires that candidates be given a minimum of 30 days and a maximum of 60 days to file their nomination papers after a byelection is formally declared. Election day would then come 45 days later.”
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-who-is-jennifer-mckelvie-toronto-mayor/
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/02/10/jennifer-mckelvie-john-tory-mayor-resignation/
https://thelocal.to/tory-resigns-toronto-mayor-by-election/ Yeungkahchun ( talk) 22:53, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
City of Toronto Act, 2006 Section 196: City of Toronto Municipal Code If the City passes a comprehensive general by-law that consolidates and includes the provisions of any by-law previously passed by the City,
(a) the provisions in the comprehensive general by-law are deemed to have come into force on the day the original by-law came into force; and
(b) any condition or approval required by law to the making of the original by-law is, where such condition was satisfied or approval obtained, deemed to have been satisfied or obtained in respect of the corresponding provision in the comprehensive general by-law. 2006, c. 11, Sched. A, s. 196.
From the City of Toronto Act, from official City of Toronto website (Toronto.ca) https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/municode/1184_027.pdf#page30
CITY OF TORONTO MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 27, COUNCIL PROCEDURES Article 1 Interpretation § 27-1.1. Definitions.
DEPUTY MAYOR - Any Member the Mayor appoints as Deputy Mayor to assist the Mayor , including one individual appointed by the Mayor as First Deputy Mayor to act as Mayor when the Mayor is absent from the City or due to illness or when the office of Mayor is vacant.
Deputy Mayor. The Deputy Mayor has, and may exercise, all the rights, powers, and authority of the Mayor, except the by-right-of-office powers of the Mayor as a member of a Community Council
Major news sources:
“Despite some speculation in Conservative circles that deputy mayor Jennifer McKelvie would launch a campaign, CBC News has learned that she is not going to run. McKelvie is in line to become acting mayor once Tory officially resigns, and would lead council through the upcoming budget process.”
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6745624
“ Once the office is declared vacant, Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie will act as mayor until a by-election is held.” https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/canada/article-john-tory-resignation-what-next/
“ If Tory’s resignation takes effect in the coming days, anticipated McKelvie, who has served as Ward 25 Scarborough–Rouge Park since 2018 and was appointed deputy mayor in mid-November, will become the acting mayor at that time.” https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/02/10/john-tory-resignation-new-toronto-mayor/amp/
“ Under the City of Toronto Act, Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie will now take over the job until a byelection can be held.” https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/toronto/2023/2/10/1_6269718.amp.html
Even if the City of Toronto Act had not designated the Municipal Code which provides for the definition and role of deputy mayor in assuming the powers of mayor once the office of mayor is vacant, It is important to note that virtually all major news sources are stating that the deputy mayor is next in line. If that’s what all the major news sources (even if they are wrong in interpreting the law), then that’s what we must base Wikipedia on. All the news sources are reporting
“Under the City of Toronto Act and the Toronto Municipal Code, Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie will now take over the job until a byelection can be held.”
(As per CTV, CBC, Global, CP24, CityNews etc) Why are we blatantly ignoring the news?
Recall
Wikipedia only includes topics that are covered by sufficient secondary sources ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_a_tertiary_source)
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So using secondary sources, overwhelmingly MOST of the country’s major media news outlet (CTV, CBC, CP24, CityNews, Global, Globel & Mail etc) are saying “McKelvie WILL be mayor”. Yes, several of the articles state “poised to”, “set to”, “will likely” but most of them use concrete terms such as “will”, “will now”, “shall”, “will become”. This is what the news is saying, not me. If the major news media had not all reported this, I would’ve agreed with you. But I base my writing on secondary sources, major reputable news media sources that is, rather than my own “what if” speculations (what if she runs herself, what if she resigns, what if she gives the role away to someone else, what if the council appoints another deputy). Now I will ask of you, where are the major reputable news sources which indicate that the city council will randomly appoint an individual, who is NOT the deputy mayor, to fulfil the interim role once the mayor’s resignation takes effect? I will wait. Please provide the major reputable news sources which indicate that the deputy mayor is not the officer who will fulfil the interim mayor role.
Now CBC has confirmed McKelvie will not be running now, so unless she resigns as deputy before Tory resigns office, she is set to be interim mayor.
The sentence says “Any Member the Mayor appoints as Deputy Mayor to assist the Mayor , including one individual appointed by the Mayor as First Deputy Mayor to act as Mayor when the Mayor is absent from the City or due to illness or when the office of Mayor is vacant.”
The sentence indicates the member “to act as Mayor”… (acts as mayor = acting mayor) literally says so itself: acts as mayor
the last part of the sentence: “OR when the office of Mayor is vacant.”
If one is acting as mayor, it literally means you are acting mayor.
Acting means temporarily fulfils the role of office (gaining the powers & title of the office) when the office is vacant/unavailable
The member acts as mayor when the office of mayor is vacant. A mayoral resignation means the office of mayor is vacant (nobody is occupying/holding the office of mayor)
I agree with your point here though: Presumably the city will re-establish the Office of the Deputy Mayor, similar to what they did when they stripped Rob Ford of most of his powers
“ Once the office is declared vacant, Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie will act as mayor until a by-election is held.” https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/canada/article-john-tory-resignation-what-next/
Will act as mayor = acting mayor
“ If Tory’s resignation takes effect in the coming days, anticipated McKelvie, who has served as Ward 25 Scarborough–Rouge Park since 2018 and was appointed deputy mayor in mid-November, will become the acting mayor at that time.” https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/02/10/john-tory-resignation-new-toronto-mayor/amp/
= will become the acting mayor at the time
“ Under the City of Toronto Act, Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie will now take over the job until a byelection can be held.” https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/toronto/2023/2/10/1_6269718.amp.html
= will now take over the job until a by-election can be held
All the sources say she will be the acting mayor. They are not saying she will become the next mayor following the election, (the next permanent mayor will be elected in the by-election) they are saying she will become the acting mayor
There are literally numerous articles from major news outlets referencing her as the acting mayor
News headlines from major news media:
“Here’s what you should know about Toronto’s acting mayor” (Now Toronto)
https://nowtoronto.com/news/deputy-mayor-jennifer-mckelvie-is-the-new-acting-mayor/
“Who is Jennifer McKelvie? More on the councillor set to become Toronto’s acting mayor” (CityNews) https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/02/10/jennifer-mckelvie-john-tory-mayor-resignation/
“Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie to temporarily take reins once Tory resigns” (Toronto Sun) https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/deputy-mayor-jennifer-mckelvie-to-temporarily-take-reins-once-tory-resigns/wcm/fc3d1cc6-dfeb-4736-9b3e-b2f5e5bfa598/amp/
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/toronto/2023/2/10/1_6269718.amp.html
“Breaking News: Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie becomes acting mayor” (Humber) https://humbernews.ca/2023/02/breaking-news-deputy-mayor-jennifer-mckelvie-becomes-acting-mayor/
Did you even listen to the Tory resignation speech where Tory literally referenced transition with Deputy Mayor McKelvie
“I will be working with deputy mayor Jennifer McKelvie to ensure an orderly transition in the coming days.”
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/canada/article-toronto-mayor-john-torys-resignation-speech/
I was literally watching CTV news channel on my own tv, the headline chyron on my tv screen literally stated “McKelvie is Acting Mayor”. I can literally email or text you a picture I took of the tv screen with the news headline.
On CP24 the news headline chyron “McKelvie becomes Acting Mayor”
You stated “That by-law says that the deputy mayor acts as mayor, when the mayor is unavailable or out of town.”
You left out the last part of the sentence of the bylaw “OR when the office is vacant.”
You stated “They say she will act as mayor - as she has done on previous occasions.”
That’s what the sources and I are literally saying, she will act as mayor — once Tory has resigned. She will act as mayor (that’s what an acting mayor does) til the byelection takes place that will elect the permanent mayor! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeungkahchun ( talk • contribs) 06:03, 13 February 2023 (UTC) Yeungkahchun
I was not the one who wrote the text “Upon assuming the powers & duties of mayor, McKelvie will become the first female mayor or acting mayor of Toronto post-amalgamation".
He has not officially unresigned. As of now, his intention is to resign as per Friday’s resignation announcement. Nothing has changed.
The source literally confirms the fact the existence of the interim / acting / caretaker mayor, and that she will not inherit the newly enhanced strong powers from 2022 strong act. The source you cited literally stated strong powers do not transfer to the interim / acting / caretaker mayor.
“But in a statement provided to CTV News Toronto on Monday, a spokesperson for the Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing confirmed that the powers cannot be transferred to a caretaker mayor, such as his deputy Jennifer McKelvie. “Strong Mayor powers do not transfer to the interim/acting mayor,” Victoria Podbielski said.”
From the very source that you cited.
Please learn to read critically.
And that is just 1 source CP24, whereas most sources all confirm deputy as caretaker/interim/acting/temporary mayor, even CP24 itself has newer articles confirming so.
recent source “Tory's office said he met with Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie and city staff Monday morning to talk about how best to ensure "an orderly transition," signalling his intention to leave once budget talks are complete.
Deasley noted "further details" on the transition will be announced after the budget meeting.” https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6746306 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeungkahchun ( talk • contribs) 23:33, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
“She might become deputy mayor” What are you talking about? McKelvie has been Deputy Mayor since her appointment on November 16, 2022
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2022/11/16/jennifer-mckelvie-deputy-mayor/amp/
At the time, what I meant was that Tory cannot unresign, as he has not even resigned yet. Again please READ. I said his INTENTION was to resign, as per his Friday ANNOUNCEMENT. Do you know what the word “intention” means?
Above I literally wrote “He has not officially unresigned. As of now, his intention is to resign as per Friday’s resignation announcement. Nothing has changed”
Like seriously. Please.
Anyhow, this has all been put to rest now as Tory has just submitted his formal letter of resignation, to take effect February 17, 2023, at 5 pm and confirmed now that Deputy McKelvie will succeed, as all the news sources have confirmed.
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/toronto/2023/2/15/1_6276159.amp.html
Yeungkahchun ( talk) 04:19, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Yes you are absolutely correct here, her title would remain Deputy Mayor, and she would would only temporarily obtain the mayor’s powers (except the enhanced strong powers from the the Strong Mayors Act 2022, as confirmed by the Province) as acting mayor in a caretaker capacity.
“ Acting mayor won't possess new enhanced powers in the event of Tory resignation: province”
https://beta.cp24.com/news/2023/2/13/1_6271652.html
“ Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie to temporarily take reins once Tory resigns” https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/deputy-mayor-jennifer-mckelvie-to-temporarily-take-reins-once-tory-resigns/wcm/fc3d1cc6-dfeb-4736-9b3e-b2f5e5bfa598/amp/
Yeungkahchun ( talk) 04:47, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
My sincere apologies, I realize that the text (regarding 1st female) was restored along with my edits, that part was not meant to be restored, as I do not agree with that segment. What I was doing was just trying to was restore my part. Yeungkahchun ( talk) 04:52, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Please stop disruptively undoing @ GoodDay:‘s edit of Acting mayor-designate. The term “-designate” or “-elect” indicates that the role is yet to be assumed /info/en/?search=-elect
As per Wikipedia “ An * officer * -elect / designate is a person who has been elected / appointed to a position but has not yet been installed.”
_____-designate or -elect is not a title, it a suffix added which indicates that the role is to be assumed, at a later date. Yeungkahchun ( talk) 05:23, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
It is not a federal term, it is used at all levels.
Sources from official government websites by politicians: Premier-designate congratulations from the PM: https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/readouts/2023/01/13/prime-minister-justin-trudeau-speaks-premier-designate-yukon-ranj-pillai
Hamilton, Ontario official mayor-elect congratulation statement by the outgoing mayor https://www.hamilton.ca/city-council/news-notices/news-releases/statement-by-mayor-fred-eisenberger-congratulating-mayor Yeungkahchun ( talk) 05:34, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Fair, as it now officially confirmed directly from the City via formal public statement from official channels. Now there is no room for doubt. As per the City Official Statement, there is no such office of acting mayor in the City of Toronto. With this direct clarification, we can confirm this. Previously, there was no outright public statement clarifying such amidst the all of the noise, thus there was room for doubt and speculation. Now all is clear beyond a reasonable doubt. There is no office of acting mayor, as per the City. Yeungkahchun ( talk) 08:07, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Irrelevant side note: Now I still see most news media still incorrectly using the acting/interim mayor terminology. But that doesn’t matter now, with the City’s formal public clarification of the transition process with the general public. I base my editing on factual information, and when that is not clear, I base it on the major news media. So now even as most major news media are wrong, I am sticking with the official city’s statement. Because at the end of the day, the City is the legitimate source and relaying its interpretations to the public. Yeungkahchun ( talk) 08:22, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Most the major news sources (incorrectly!) had headlines referring to acting mayor. I was just basing it off the major news sources, as most the major news sources wrongly made reference to acting/interim/caretaker mayor. (For example one article wrongly literally said “Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie is the new acting mayor” https://nowtoronto.com/news/deputy-mayor-jennifer-mckelvie-is-the-new-acting-mayor/)
The fact is that there is no such thing as acting/interim mayor.
The major news sources from a week ago (now outdated & old):
“Here’s what you should know about Toronto’s acting mayor” (Now Toronto)
https://nowtoronto.com/news/deputy-mayor-jennifer-mckelvie-is-the-new-acting-mayor/
“Who is Jennifer McKelvie? More on the councillor set to become Toronto’s acting mayor” (CityNews) https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/02/10/jennifer-mckelvie-john-tory-mayor-resignation/
“Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie to temporarily take reins once Tory resigns” (Toronto Sun) https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/deputy-mayor-jennifer-mckelvie-to-temporarily-take-reins-once-tory-resigns/wcm/fc3d1cc6-dfeb-4736-9b3e-b2f5e5bfa598/amp/
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/toronto/2023/2/10/1_6269718.amp.html
“Breaking News: Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie becomes acting mayor” (Humber) https://humbernews.ca/2023/02/breaking-news-deputy-mayor-jennifer-mckelvie-becomes-acting-mayor/
We now know, that this is all incorrect, as per official City law. The indisputable fact, as verified by the City, is that no such office of “acting mayor” or “interim mayor.
“Enough already” was just copied pasted from your initial edit on the page.
I extend my sincerest apologies for coming across roughly to you. Thank you so much for your contributions and bringing this information to light. Yeungkahchun ( talk) 19:03, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
The major news sources were wrongly headlined refer to acting mayor (a lot but not most) . I stand corrected, at present, all of today’s news headlines are relaying the correct information and using the proper terminologies.
This can all put to rest now, as there is no such thing as acting mayor. Confirmed by city.
At this time, I extend heartfelt deepest sincerest apologies for the inappropriate tone used against you. I appreciate you and thank you for all the useful and good contributions you have contributed on Wikipedia, and keep it up. Wikipedia needs and benefits from users like you, who are clear-eyed and continue to press on with the right thing even amidst any controversies or misinformed speculation. Again, I express fullest apologies for the harsh tones. You were right about the non existence of the office of acting mayor. I recognize that the city confirms there’s no such thing as acting mayor and I recognize the news sources were incorrect annd often vague, I recognize this and own up to it all. Yeungkahchun ( talk) 19:23, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
No hard feelings, I do deeply regret the tone used, I realize it was aggressive, inappropriate and inartful. Throughout this discourse, you have been polite and back up your with reasonings.
Glad we can move on a good note, I never want discussion on a bad terms, I fully express regret for the harsh tones. No hard feelings.
You are a good insightful Wikipedian, and Wikipedia has a lot to gain from you and your efforts.
PS. Hope the next mayor will do good for the City of Toronto!
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Greetings Mister Nfitz my article 1965-66 Hartlepools United F.C. season is in danger, they say is not notable because I'm a fan (? fan of football). The article is well-sourced, and is notable in comparison to similar articles of that year in that division three: Bradford City, Port Vale, Rochdale. Please help me.
The user is chris troutman, he is not responding to my arguments, just tagging the articles I created, same was happened to: 1966-67 Hartlepools United F.C. season, 1967-68 Derby County F.C. season, 1968-69 Derby County F.C. season, 1968-69 Derby County F.C. season, 1969-70 Derby County F.C. season, 1970-71 Derby County F.C. season, 1973-74 Derby County F.C. season, 1973-74 Brighton & Hove Albion F.C. season 1981-82 Nottingham Forest F.C. season, 1982-83 Nottingham Forest F.C. season, 1983-84 Nottingham Forest F.C. season, 1984-85 Nottingham Forest F.C. season, 1985-86 Nottingham Forest F.C. season, 1986-87 Nottingham Forest F.C. season, 1987-88 Nottingham Forest F.C. season and 1988-89 Nottingham Forest F.C. season.— Preceding unsigned comment added by User:HugoAcosta9 ( talk • contribs) 03:03, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
I'll just respond here since I'm apparently unwelcome to comment further there- the Speaker designates people to act on their behalf when they are not present- but they can't do that if there is no Speaker. There is a Speaker pro tem right now, but what they can do beyond overseeing the choosing of the next Speaker is debatable at best. 331dot ( talk) 22:30, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
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Hey, I'm still getting my head wrapped around the concept of WP:GNG. For example, would Ali Al Haj and Peter Khalife pass, in your opinion? Nehme1499 ( talk) 16:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
The difference between the two is that, while Al Haj has double the references, most if not all are just trivial mentions. Khalife has 7 pages talking solely about him ( Jbeil Daily News, Malaaeb, sports-961, flyfoot, elsport, laebarabi, football-lebanon). So idk, because I've always been sure of the notability of the people of whom I've created the pages, since they all pass WP:NFOOTY. This would be my first case in publishing pages which don't satisfy it, so I want to be extra careful ahaha. Nehme1499 ( talk) 13:52, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm not sure what conclusion you can draw from the pages edited (Except they all edited Freud), but one thing is certain, they all edited at the same time (same times of day) and meaning Skoojal and FKC are in the same time zone.
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Please be careful about WP:3RR on Jeremy Clarkson. You are very close to it at the moment. Please offer your thoughts on the talk page where the other editor has started a new section to discuss this issue. Woody ( talk) 20:31, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Hindsight ia a glorious thing: I should not have labelled it as 3RR nor gone into reverts, this was a note about edit warring more than the bright line of 3RR. I didn't want to template the regulars rather I had hoped to stop any more reverts and push it to the talk page. In terms of not being complete reverts and being amended text I take your point: it wasn't a plain revert, but your edit was still contested and that should have then gone to the talk page rather than long edit summary discussion. Sadly, I'm continuously amazed by what is deemed contentious on Wikipedia and I don't think it will ever cease to amaze me. In terms of your last paragraph Nfitz and your responses Davey2010 I think these would be much better placed at the article talk page so it can go towards addressing the issue in one place: preferably on the article talk page as it pertains to article content. Cheers, Woody ( talk) 23:18, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
I do not have a issue with the club, I am just nominating non-league seasons which should never have been created anyway. (Also I'm not just nominating Newport articles. I am focusing on non-league season articles in general, and Newport seem to have a lot of them). REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 15:57, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Hey there! I just wanted to possibly give you a quick word of advice about Talk:Proud Boys#Claim that Proud Boys are racist - while I'm sure you absolutely mean well and are just trying to ensure that the other editor is aware of one of the ways that their messages may be interpreted, it's always best to assume good faith and not allege that they're spreading discriminatory beliefs. I've archived the discussion just to try and prevent any heated arguments, and to help keep the talk page on-topic, since the edit request it's related to is has already been answered. ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 08:05, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Editing Scapegoat ( talk) 22:30, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
I'd expect you to know this, but you should not copy & paste content from sandboxes/drafts into mainspace articles. Giant Snowman 19:37, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
As it seems your are an experienced editor here with more than 15 years of contributing, would be my please if you help me in some articles that I might have problems or questions. Thanks -- Thedunker66 ( talk) 11:27, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
In case you saw my recent contribution to the discussion, I thought your signature said Keyswab, which led me to misinterpret it as them saying that we should negate the results because Fox said it. It wasn't directed at you and I've recanted, so I hope it didn't offend you. ;) DÅRTHBØTTØ ( T• C) 21:17, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
Hallo, you participated in this discussion in its early stages. Therefore, I would take the liberty to ask you if you would like to review 2014–15 FC Winterthur season again. In the meantime, I have added texts and citations. Perhaps you would like to add a new comment, and perhaps with a couple of suggestions, to the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2014–15 FC Winterthur season discussion page. Your opinion would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your participation and please feel free to delete this message from your page, if you so wish. Thanks again and kindest greetings from Switzerland -- Huligan0 ( talk) 22:05, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Hey, just a heads up that it looks like you forgot to sign your comment on the RfD for Capitol Insurrection. I left an {{ unsigned}} note, but feel free to replace it. Thanks for contributing to the discussion! Spurrious Correlation 23:52, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Nice to meet you again. As you are one of the active participants in AFDs, i request you to please have a look at this case. As there are so many pending AFDs to be resolved and so less volunteers, your assistance will help us reduce the workload drop by drop. Thank You, Pesticide1110 Lets wrestle! 15:42, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Q5: The second sentence in the guideline says "The article must provide reliable sources showing that the subject meets the general notability guideline or the sport specific criteria set forth below." Does this mean that the general notability guideline doesn't have to be met?
A5: No; as per Q1 and Q2, eventually sources must be provided showing that the general notability guideline is met. This sentence is just emphasizing that the article must always cite reliable sources to support a claim of meeting Wikipedia's notability standards, whether it is the criteria set by the sports-specific notability guidelines, or the general notability guideline.
JoelleJay ( talk) 01:23, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks again for flagging that resource in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kennedy Cartoons. I reached out at Wikipedia_talk:The_Wikipedia_Library#Access_issue and they were able to solve it. Look forward to using it to access more older articles. Star Mississippi 15:32, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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For your help, I appreciated it. Lightburst ( talk) 14:29, 4 November 2021 (UTC) |
Thanks for your responses at the Deletion Review and on Doczilla's talk. Given the first Afd, where it listed references, I saw no need to list them again.
I was looking for an archive of the now deleted article too. Any suggestions? -- Hipal ( talk) 22:19, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
The personal commentary [2] is not appreciated and disruptive. Please remember to focus on content and policy, and work cooperatively with your fellow editors. -- Hipal ( talk) 15:39, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
I saw
your DRV comment of Our job is to make sure there was consensus in that discussion to delete the article (and I don't see it.
Just FYI, it seems that you have not placed a formal (i.e. bolded) !vote for that
specific E. J. Jones (rugby_union) thread. Regards.—
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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Wikipedia:Notability (sports). This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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This is a blatant and knowledgeable violation of WP:INVOLVED by User:Wugapodes and I request that this be reverted and that he be blocked from my talk page. (not that I have any intention of editing NSPORT for the next 24 hours anyhow). Nfitz ( talk) 22:13, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Not an unblock request. --jpgordon 𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 23:17, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
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Request reason:
There was a violation of WP:INVOLVED by User:Wugapodes, who is very much involved with the changes at NSPORT (diffs - one, two, three and I request that that the block be reverted due to their violation of INVOLVED. I've twice politely queried User:Jpgordon on how that isn't an unblock request, but they have chosen not to answer. Nfitz ( talk) 17:41, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You were not edit warring with Wugapodes. They are not involved. Since this is only a partial block, you should bring any grievances with other users to the appropriate forum. 331dot ( talk) 19:25, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
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Thank you for support in the RfC for DYK - music with a chance to listen, - the piece by Anna Korsun begins after about one hour, and the voices afterwards call "Freiheit!" instead of "Freude". Music every day, pictured in songs. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 11:22, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
The Prayer is on the Main page, finally + new flowers, and btw: the TFA is a young writer's first -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:24, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
I just saw the above at WP:ANI.
Please don't. According to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Strong national ties to a topic "Articles related to Canada may use either format with (as always) consistency within each article." So no date format template, {{ Use mdy dates}} or {{ Use dmy dates}}, should be used until there is an actual date put in. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 18:49, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello, Nfitz,
Thank you for creating redirects from some articles that were recently PROD'd. I think in these cases, redirecting the page was the better solution than deletion. The high number of articles tagged with PRODs for today was definitely an anomaly that will not be repeated. I appreciate editors like yourself that review articles that have been PROD'd and either find some additional sources or come up with a better solution than deletion. Many thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 23:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
If you're going to say something like that, can you please WP:PROVEIT and add the sources somewhere? Even just dump them in the AFD? That's really all I want from you. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 21:37, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to assume bad faith when dealing with other editors, you may be blocked from editing. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Wikipedia. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 21:15, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I'm TenPoundHammer. I noticed that you made a comment on the page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bumper Stumpers that didn't seem very civil, so it may have been removed. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 00:37, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
It might have an article on Italian wikipedia but I can't find anything in decent about the article. I think it should be deleted.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:22, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 00:52, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. I am glad to see that you are discussing a topic. However, as a general rule, talk pages (including user talk pages) such as Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates are for discussion related to improving the article in specific ways based on reliable sources and Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. They are not for general discussion about the article topic or unrelated topics, or statements based on your thoughts or feelings. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. Your comment regarding Sinn Fein was grossly inappropriate, and a violation of WP:NOTFORUM. We all have our personal opinions, and we don't taint Wikipedia with them. Cheers! Fake scientist 8000 16:46, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Just noting that the Gotthard Base Tunnel has no stations within it, and was not dug in a large metropolitan area, that's why it was cheaper. 331dot ( talk) 09:53, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Im sorry you took that as a lack of AGF, I do certainly assume that good faith. I was just going to bed and was looking for outside views. That was not meant to be an attack on you at all, but sorry if it came off as aggressive. nableezy - 12:34, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi Nfitz Im sorry to bother you but User:HugoAcosta9 is still be blocked undefinitely, he really apologizes for his behaviour can yo do something with an administrator or in a topic in ANI to unblock him?. Actually, he apologizes for his not appropriate comments in ANI but sputnik and bb253 deleted his apology. We miss his articles, they have excellent prose a little unorthodox but they are fine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2806:2F0:31C0:AC8:84C5:A9C6:C132:B7DA ( talk) 17:04, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
Pro forma notification re: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Long_stale_DRV although I don't think it's actually required in this case. We're all on the same page. Have a great day! Star Mississippi 20:09, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
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As requested, I've restored these articles as drafts in your user space:
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Thanks for reaching out, I appreciate it. My main point is that we have many, many human name articles where it's like a dozen names and a handful of surnames, or vice versa, and nobody ever complains about them being together. For Joseph, it's not a handful. In this case, people actually found the two surnames after the AfD was filed, and added them there instead of the main article. The separation can make sense, but this one seems contrived. -- Joy [shallot] ( talk) 08:35, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Enough already, you should read the City of Toronto Act, and all major news sources in Canada.
Once the resignation takes place, the deputy mayor assumes the role of mayor and Council meets to declare the office of mayor vacant and within 60 days of the office being declared vacant must pass a bylaw requiring a by-election to take place.
Everything you commented was just speculation, not grounded in real facts and news sources. Even if McKelvie were to run herself, that does not negate the fact that she is deputy mayor and as per City of Toronto the deputy mayor succeeds the mayor. She has not resigned as deputy mayor, and if she wanted to, that is just speculation and there is a process for succession as well. For McKelvie not to be acting mayor would require both Tory and McKelvie to both resign their positions at the exact same time, of which there is no indication of such a thing happening.
“The City of Toronto Act says that once a city council member, including the mayor, resigns, council must declare their seat vacant at their next meeting. In this instance, that could happen as soon as Wednesday, when city council votes on the latest budget, but it will depend on whether Tory steps down before then. Within 60 days of the the mayor's seat being declared open, city council must pass a bylaw requiring that a byelection be held to fill the vacancy, according to the act.”
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6745210
“Under the City of Toronto Act, Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie will now take over the job until a byelection can be held. She is likely to remain in the job for a period of months, as the City of Toronto Act requires that candidates be given a minimum of 30 days and a maximum of 60 days to file their nomination papers after a byelection is formally declared. Election day would then come 45 days later.”
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-who-is-jennifer-mckelvie-toronto-mayor/
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/02/10/jennifer-mckelvie-john-tory-mayor-resignation/
https://thelocal.to/tory-resigns-toronto-mayor-by-election/ Yeungkahchun ( talk) 22:53, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
City of Toronto Act, 2006 Section 196: City of Toronto Municipal Code If the City passes a comprehensive general by-law that consolidates and includes the provisions of any by-law previously passed by the City,
(a) the provisions in the comprehensive general by-law are deemed to have come into force on the day the original by-law came into force; and
(b) any condition or approval required by law to the making of the original by-law is, where such condition was satisfied or approval obtained, deemed to have been satisfied or obtained in respect of the corresponding provision in the comprehensive general by-law. 2006, c. 11, Sched. A, s. 196.
From the City of Toronto Act, from official City of Toronto website (Toronto.ca) https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/municode/1184_027.pdf#page30
CITY OF TORONTO MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 27, COUNCIL PROCEDURES Article 1 Interpretation § 27-1.1. Definitions.
DEPUTY MAYOR - Any Member the Mayor appoints as Deputy Mayor to assist the Mayor , including one individual appointed by the Mayor as First Deputy Mayor to act as Mayor when the Mayor is absent from the City or due to illness or when the office of Mayor is vacant.
Deputy Mayor. The Deputy Mayor has, and may exercise, all the rights, powers, and authority of the Mayor, except the by-right-of-office powers of the Mayor as a member of a Community Council
Major news sources:
“Despite some speculation in Conservative circles that deputy mayor Jennifer McKelvie would launch a campaign, CBC News has learned that she is not going to run. McKelvie is in line to become acting mayor once Tory officially resigns, and would lead council through the upcoming budget process.”
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6745624
“ Once the office is declared vacant, Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie will act as mayor until a by-election is held.” https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/canada/article-john-tory-resignation-what-next/
“ If Tory’s resignation takes effect in the coming days, anticipated McKelvie, who has served as Ward 25 Scarborough–Rouge Park since 2018 and was appointed deputy mayor in mid-November, will become the acting mayor at that time.” https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/02/10/john-tory-resignation-new-toronto-mayor/amp/
“ Under the City of Toronto Act, Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie will now take over the job until a byelection can be held.” https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/toronto/2023/2/10/1_6269718.amp.html
Even if the City of Toronto Act had not designated the Municipal Code which provides for the definition and role of deputy mayor in assuming the powers of mayor once the office of mayor is vacant, It is important to note that virtually all major news sources are stating that the deputy mayor is next in line. If that’s what all the major news sources (even if they are wrong in interpreting the law), then that’s what we must base Wikipedia on. All the news sources are reporting
“Under the City of Toronto Act and the Toronto Municipal Code, Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie will now take over the job until a byelection can be held.”
(As per CTV, CBC, Global, CP24, CityNews etc) Why are we blatantly ignoring the news?
Recall
Wikipedia only includes topics that are covered by sufficient secondary sources ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_a_tertiary_source)
Prefer secondary sources – Articles should rely on secondary sources whenever possible. For example, a paper reviewing existing research, a review article, monograph, or textbook is often better than a primary research paper. When relying on primary sources, extreme caution is advised. Wikipedians should never interpret the content of primary sources for themselves (see Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view). ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources#Scholarship)
So using secondary sources, overwhelmingly MOST of the country’s major media news outlet (CTV, CBC, CP24, CityNews, Global, Globel & Mail etc) are saying “McKelvie WILL be mayor”. Yes, several of the articles state “poised to”, “set to”, “will likely” but most of them use concrete terms such as “will”, “will now”, “shall”, “will become”. This is what the news is saying, not me. If the major news media had not all reported this, I would’ve agreed with you. But I base my writing on secondary sources, major reputable news media sources that is, rather than my own “what if” speculations (what if she runs herself, what if she resigns, what if she gives the role away to someone else, what if the council appoints another deputy). Now I will ask of you, where are the major reputable news sources which indicate that the city council will randomly appoint an individual, who is NOT the deputy mayor, to fulfil the interim role once the mayor’s resignation takes effect? I will wait. Please provide the major reputable news sources which indicate that the deputy mayor is not the officer who will fulfil the interim mayor role.
Now CBC has confirmed McKelvie will not be running now, so unless she resigns as deputy before Tory resigns office, she is set to be interim mayor.
The sentence says “Any Member the Mayor appoints as Deputy Mayor to assist the Mayor , including one individual appointed by the Mayor as First Deputy Mayor to act as Mayor when the Mayor is absent from the City or due to illness or when the office of Mayor is vacant.”
The sentence indicates the member “to act as Mayor”… (acts as mayor = acting mayor) literally says so itself: acts as mayor
the last part of the sentence: “OR when the office of Mayor is vacant.”
If one is acting as mayor, it literally means you are acting mayor.
Acting means temporarily fulfils the role of office (gaining the powers & title of the office) when the office is vacant/unavailable
The member acts as mayor when the office of mayor is vacant. A mayoral resignation means the office of mayor is vacant (nobody is occupying/holding the office of mayor)
I agree with your point here though: Presumably the city will re-establish the Office of the Deputy Mayor, similar to what they did when they stripped Rob Ford of most of his powers
“ Once the office is declared vacant, Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie will act as mayor until a by-election is held.” https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/canada/article-john-tory-resignation-what-next/
Will act as mayor = acting mayor
“ If Tory’s resignation takes effect in the coming days, anticipated McKelvie, who has served as Ward 25 Scarborough–Rouge Park since 2018 and was appointed deputy mayor in mid-November, will become the acting mayor at that time.” https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/02/10/john-tory-resignation-new-toronto-mayor/amp/
= will become the acting mayor at the time
“ Under the City of Toronto Act, Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie will now take over the job until a byelection can be held.” https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/toronto/2023/2/10/1_6269718.amp.html
= will now take over the job until a by-election can be held
All the sources say she will be the acting mayor. They are not saying she will become the next mayor following the election, (the next permanent mayor will be elected in the by-election) they are saying she will become the acting mayor
There are literally numerous articles from major news outlets referencing her as the acting mayor
News headlines from major news media:
“Here’s what you should know about Toronto’s acting mayor” (Now Toronto)
https://nowtoronto.com/news/deputy-mayor-jennifer-mckelvie-is-the-new-acting-mayor/
“Who is Jennifer McKelvie? More on the councillor set to become Toronto’s acting mayor” (CityNews) https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/02/10/jennifer-mckelvie-john-tory-mayor-resignation/
“Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie to temporarily take reins once Tory resigns” (Toronto Sun) https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/deputy-mayor-jennifer-mckelvie-to-temporarily-take-reins-once-tory-resigns/wcm/fc3d1cc6-dfeb-4736-9b3e-b2f5e5bfa598/amp/
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/toronto/2023/2/10/1_6269718.amp.html
“Breaking News: Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie becomes acting mayor” (Humber) https://humbernews.ca/2023/02/breaking-news-deputy-mayor-jennifer-mckelvie-becomes-acting-mayor/
Did you even listen to the Tory resignation speech where Tory literally referenced transition with Deputy Mayor McKelvie
“I will be working with deputy mayor Jennifer McKelvie to ensure an orderly transition in the coming days.”
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/canada/article-toronto-mayor-john-torys-resignation-speech/
I was literally watching CTV news channel on my own tv, the headline chyron on my tv screen literally stated “McKelvie is Acting Mayor”. I can literally email or text you a picture I took of the tv screen with the news headline.
On CP24 the news headline chyron “McKelvie becomes Acting Mayor”
You stated “That by-law says that the deputy mayor acts as mayor, when the mayor is unavailable or out of town.”
You left out the last part of the sentence of the bylaw “OR when the office is vacant.”
You stated “They say she will act as mayor - as she has done on previous occasions.”
That’s what the sources and I are literally saying, she will act as mayor — once Tory has resigned. She will act as mayor (that’s what an acting mayor does) til the byelection takes place that will elect the permanent mayor! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeungkahchun ( talk • contribs) 06:03, 13 February 2023 (UTC) Yeungkahchun
I was not the one who wrote the text “Upon assuming the powers & duties of mayor, McKelvie will become the first female mayor or acting mayor of Toronto post-amalgamation".
He has not officially unresigned. As of now, his intention is to resign as per Friday’s resignation announcement. Nothing has changed.
The source literally confirms the fact the existence of the interim / acting / caretaker mayor, and that she will not inherit the newly enhanced strong powers from 2022 strong act. The source you cited literally stated strong powers do not transfer to the interim / acting / caretaker mayor.
“But in a statement provided to CTV News Toronto on Monday, a spokesperson for the Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing confirmed that the powers cannot be transferred to a caretaker mayor, such as his deputy Jennifer McKelvie. “Strong Mayor powers do not transfer to the interim/acting mayor,” Victoria Podbielski said.”
From the very source that you cited.
Please learn to read critically.
And that is just 1 source CP24, whereas most sources all confirm deputy as caretaker/interim/acting/temporary mayor, even CP24 itself has newer articles confirming so.
recent source “Tory's office said he met with Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie and city staff Monday morning to talk about how best to ensure "an orderly transition," signalling his intention to leave once budget talks are complete.
Deasley noted "further details" on the transition will be announced after the budget meeting.” https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6746306 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeungkahchun ( talk • contribs) 23:33, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
“She might become deputy mayor” What are you talking about? McKelvie has been Deputy Mayor since her appointment on November 16, 2022
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2022/11/16/jennifer-mckelvie-deputy-mayor/amp/
At the time, what I meant was that Tory cannot unresign, as he has not even resigned yet. Again please READ. I said his INTENTION was to resign, as per his Friday ANNOUNCEMENT. Do you know what the word “intention” means?
Above I literally wrote “He has not officially unresigned. As of now, his intention is to resign as per Friday’s resignation announcement. Nothing has changed”
Like seriously. Please.
Anyhow, this has all been put to rest now as Tory has just submitted his formal letter of resignation, to take effect February 17, 2023, at 5 pm and confirmed now that Deputy McKelvie will succeed, as all the news sources have confirmed.
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/toronto/2023/2/15/1_6276159.amp.html
Yeungkahchun ( talk) 04:19, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Yes you are absolutely correct here, her title would remain Deputy Mayor, and she would would only temporarily obtain the mayor’s powers (except the enhanced strong powers from the the Strong Mayors Act 2022, as confirmed by the Province) as acting mayor in a caretaker capacity.
“ Acting mayor won't possess new enhanced powers in the event of Tory resignation: province”
https://beta.cp24.com/news/2023/2/13/1_6271652.html
“ Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie to temporarily take reins once Tory resigns” https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/deputy-mayor-jennifer-mckelvie-to-temporarily-take-reins-once-tory-resigns/wcm/fc3d1cc6-dfeb-4736-9b3e-b2f5e5bfa598/amp/
Yeungkahchun ( talk) 04:47, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
My sincere apologies, I realize that the text (regarding 1st female) was restored along with my edits, that part was not meant to be restored, as I do not agree with that segment. What I was doing was just trying to was restore my part. Yeungkahchun ( talk) 04:52, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Please stop disruptively undoing @ GoodDay:‘s edit of Acting mayor-designate. The term “-designate” or “-elect” indicates that the role is yet to be assumed /info/en/?search=-elect
As per Wikipedia “ An * officer * -elect / designate is a person who has been elected / appointed to a position but has not yet been installed.”
_____-designate or -elect is not a title, it a suffix added which indicates that the role is to be assumed, at a later date. Yeungkahchun ( talk) 05:23, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
It is not a federal term, it is used at all levels.
Sources from official government websites by politicians: Premier-designate congratulations from the PM: https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/readouts/2023/01/13/prime-minister-justin-trudeau-speaks-premier-designate-yukon-ranj-pillai
Hamilton, Ontario official mayor-elect congratulation statement by the outgoing mayor https://www.hamilton.ca/city-council/news-notices/news-releases/statement-by-mayor-fred-eisenberger-congratulating-mayor Yeungkahchun ( talk) 05:34, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Fair, as it now officially confirmed directly from the City via formal public statement from official channels. Now there is no room for doubt. As per the City Official Statement, there is no such office of acting mayor in the City of Toronto. With this direct clarification, we can confirm this. Previously, there was no outright public statement clarifying such amidst the all of the noise, thus there was room for doubt and speculation. Now all is clear beyond a reasonable doubt. There is no office of acting mayor, as per the City. Yeungkahchun ( talk) 08:07, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Irrelevant side note: Now I still see most news media still incorrectly using the acting/interim mayor terminology. But that doesn’t matter now, with the City’s formal public clarification of the transition process with the general public. I base my editing on factual information, and when that is not clear, I base it on the major news media. So now even as most major news media are wrong, I am sticking with the official city’s statement. Because at the end of the day, the City is the legitimate source and relaying its interpretations to the public. Yeungkahchun ( talk) 08:22, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Most the major news sources (incorrectly!) had headlines referring to acting mayor. I was just basing it off the major news sources, as most the major news sources wrongly made reference to acting/interim/caretaker mayor. (For example one article wrongly literally said “Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie is the new acting mayor” https://nowtoronto.com/news/deputy-mayor-jennifer-mckelvie-is-the-new-acting-mayor/)
The fact is that there is no such thing as acting/interim mayor.
The major news sources from a week ago (now outdated & old):
“Here’s what you should know about Toronto’s acting mayor” (Now Toronto)
https://nowtoronto.com/news/deputy-mayor-jennifer-mckelvie-is-the-new-acting-mayor/
“Who is Jennifer McKelvie? More on the councillor set to become Toronto’s acting mayor” (CityNews) https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/02/10/jennifer-mckelvie-john-tory-mayor-resignation/
“Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie to temporarily take reins once Tory resigns” (Toronto Sun) https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/deputy-mayor-jennifer-mckelvie-to-temporarily-take-reins-once-tory-resigns/wcm/fc3d1cc6-dfeb-4736-9b3e-b2f5e5bfa598/amp/
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/toronto/2023/2/10/1_6269718.amp.html
“Breaking News: Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie becomes acting mayor” (Humber) https://humbernews.ca/2023/02/breaking-news-deputy-mayor-jennifer-mckelvie-becomes-acting-mayor/
We now know, that this is all incorrect, as per official City law. The indisputable fact, as verified by the City, is that no such office of “acting mayor” or “interim mayor.
“Enough already” was just copied pasted from your initial edit on the page.
I extend my sincerest apologies for coming across roughly to you. Thank you so much for your contributions and bringing this information to light. Yeungkahchun ( talk) 19:03, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
The major news sources were wrongly headlined refer to acting mayor (a lot but not most) . I stand corrected, at present, all of today’s news headlines are relaying the correct information and using the proper terminologies.
This can all put to rest now, as there is no such thing as acting mayor. Confirmed by city.
At this time, I extend heartfelt deepest sincerest apologies for the inappropriate tone used against you. I appreciate you and thank you for all the useful and good contributions you have contributed on Wikipedia, and keep it up. Wikipedia needs and benefits from users like you, who are clear-eyed and continue to press on with the right thing even amidst any controversies or misinformed speculation. Again, I express fullest apologies for the harsh tones. You were right about the non existence of the office of acting mayor. I recognize that the city confirms there’s no such thing as acting mayor and I recognize the news sources were incorrect annd often vague, I recognize this and own up to it all. Yeungkahchun ( talk) 19:23, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
No hard feelings, I do deeply regret the tone used, I realize it was aggressive, inappropriate and inartful. Throughout this discourse, you have been polite and back up your with reasonings.
Glad we can move on a good note, I never want discussion on a bad terms, I fully express regret for the harsh tones. No hard feelings.
You are a good insightful Wikipedian, and Wikipedia has a lot to gain from you and your efforts.
PS. Hope the next mayor will do good for the City of Toronto!
Best Yeungkahchun ( talk) 03:33, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
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In my opinion it's crazy how football pages with many sources and/or appearances in pro leagues are getting spam nominated for deleted nowadays like Kibu Denis, Chris McStay, Felipe Ortiz, Ömer Aysan Barış, Fabio Ulderici, 2021–22 ÖFB-Frauenliga, Chris Chung, Luka Jovanovic, Aurélien Hérisson, 2005–06 Udinese Calcio season, and Eriko Goya Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 07:42, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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I’m genuinely confused at this point over certain editor’s reasoning regarding these. The same lists for American, Air Canada and Air New Zealand are of no better quality than the 13 deleted, yet still exist. What gives? SurferSquall ( talk) 02:22, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
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Just dropping by to apologise for my comments yesterday at ITN. You're right, they were unnecessary and I'm sorry for crossing the line. Kind regards, Anarchyte ( talk) 04:15, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Please don't accuse a living person of crimes that he hasn't been convicted of: the BLP policy applies even at AfD and even when it's Donald Trump. Thanks. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 05:50, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
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high degree of sensitivity, as the BLP policy requires. Obviously we're not going to agree here, so if you really believe my revdel is "abhorrent", you're welcome to take it to WP:AN or WP:AARV for further review. I'm going to bed now, so any admin who thinks I'm in the wrong here has my blessing to un-revdel. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 07:52, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
Greetings Mister Nfitz my article 1965-66 Hartlepools United F.C. season is in danger, they say is not notable because I'm a fan (? fan of football). The article is well-sourced, and is notable in comparison to similar articles of that year in that division three: Bradford City, Port Vale, Rochdale. Please help me.
The user is chris troutman, he is not responding to my arguments, just tagging the articles I created, same was happened to: 1966-67 Hartlepools United F.C. season, 1967-68 Derby County F.C. season, 1968-69 Derby County F.C. season, 1968-69 Derby County F.C. season, 1969-70 Derby County F.C. season, 1970-71 Derby County F.C. season, 1973-74 Derby County F.C. season, 1973-74 Brighton & Hove Albion F.C. season 1981-82 Nottingham Forest F.C. season, 1982-83 Nottingham Forest F.C. season, 1983-84 Nottingham Forest F.C. season, 1984-85 Nottingham Forest F.C. season, 1985-86 Nottingham Forest F.C. season, 1986-87 Nottingham Forest F.C. season, 1987-88 Nottingham Forest F.C. season and 1988-89 Nottingham Forest F.C. season.— Preceding unsigned comment added by User:HugoAcosta9 ( talk • contribs) 03:03, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
I'll just respond here since I'm apparently unwelcome to comment further there- the Speaker designates people to act on their behalf when they are not present- but they can't do that if there is no Speaker. There is a Speaker pro tem right now, but what they can do beyond overseeing the choosing of the next Speaker is debatable at best. 331dot ( talk) 22:30, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
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this is only alternative to keep karachi league article (major rebranding); also please fix some format details first (linking "football", possibly switch semi pro for term "regional"...)
second detail, this article missing some jersey pattern symbols, possibly more corrections. how and why actually few completely unfamiliar topic users used tools without caring for quality content, is different sad part. appreciate, kind regards
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You mentioned a discussion in your edit summary at Richard Kell (footballer)? Do you mean the AfD? Robby.is.on ( talk) 20:36, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
so discuss there, rather than editing here.. The question of whether to include the birthdate is unsuitable for an AfD debate, I'm quite sure. Robby.is.on ( talk) 21:27, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
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