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Hi, I have a quick question regarding NFC. WP:NFC Policy 1. contains the following statement:
"Where possible, non-free content is transformed into free material instead of using a fair-use defense, or replaced with a freer alternative if one of acceptable quality is available"
What is "a freer alternative" supposed to mean? I would think content is either free (such as released under WP:CC-BY-SA or public domain) or it is non-free (such as all copyrighted material). Also this formulation seems to suggest that this "freer alternative" is meant still to be non-free but "freer" than another non-free work.
Perhaps I am simply interpreting too much into this, but somehow I simply don't get it. Can you clarify this for me? I would really appreciate that. Toshio Yamaguchi ( talk) 16:09, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
I noticed you reverted to article to 6 April version on the basis of copyright infringement I can not see how it can all be such and why you have taken such a drastic action rather than remove suspected infringement. I noticed you or others have done this before on the same reasoning.
I am new to this and you will no doubt have access to what I have done on which articles etc., which I think is not bad for a newcomer even if I say so myself.
However you are probably not aware of the significance of this article in the Muslim community (1.5 billion+) as the person is renowned and as you can see from the various sources very accomplished. I note you too are interested in languages from your profile, but I do not think you can compare to Hamidullah.
Although I can see some sentences may have been copied from some sources by past editors, or slightly altered, most of the source websites do hot have a copyright issue with things being taken from them and are religious propagatory in nature allowing free use or replication of their content.
I am going to restore the article (and make a few changes to re-express things so that there is less chance of infringement) as I think the significance of the man is too great to not have on Wikipedia. I will of course take into account any comments and suggestions you may have. Mhakcm ( talk) 10:51, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I understand the point of copyright material not being re-instated, but my point was it was not all copyright that you deleted and but other additional material/edits has also been deleted, and secondly some of it is not copyright but free. It seems to me you have read one of the sources and said it is too similar and blanket banned material rather than saying such and such is plagiarism but not copyrighted and some is neither and should be left in the article about the man. Is there are tool you have that can point to what is copied from copyrighted sources. If you can send me such or send me the article with material suspected by you of infringement highlighted or unlined, I shall be grateful. Mhakcm ( talk) 11:21, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Hamidullah belonged to an illustrious family of scholars, jurists, writers and sufis. His ancestors migrated from Arabia a few centuries ago. The distinguished sufi scholar Ala al-Din ‘Ali Ibn Ahmad Al-Maha’imi (d. 1431), who is buried in Mahim Mumbai, Habibullah Bijapuri, an eminent sufi of the Deccan, and Muhammad Husayn Shahid, the last principal of the famed madrasah set up by the Brahman vizier Mahmud Gawan, were among his illustrious ancestors. Hamidullah’s great grandfather Mawlvi Muhammad Ghaws Sharfu’l-Mulk (d. 1238/1822) was well versed in Arabic and Islamic studies. He wrote more than 30 books in Arabic, Persian and Urdu. One of his important works is a commentary on the Qur’an, Nathru’l-Marjan fi Rasm Nazmi’l-Qur’an, in seven volumes.
Hamidullah belonged to an illustrious family of scholars, jurists, writers and sufis. His ancestors migrated from Arabia a few centuries ago. The distinguished sufi scholar ‘Ala al-Din ‘Ali Ibn Ahmad Al-Maha’imi (d. 1431), who is buried in Mumbai, Habibullah Bijapuri, an eminent sufi of the Deccan, and Muhammad Husayn Shahid, the last principal of the famed madrasah set up by the Brahman vizier Mahmud Gawan, were among his illustrious ancestors. Professor Hamidullah’s great grandfather Mawlvi Muhammad Ghaws Sharfu’l-Mulk (d. 1238/1822) was well versed in Arabic and Islamic studies. He wrote more than 30 books in Arabic, Persian and Urdu. One of his important works is a commentary on the Qur’an, Nathru’l-Marjan fi Rasm Nazmi’l-Qur’an, in seven volumes.
Piety, humility and simplicity were conspicuous in Hamidullah’s personality and character. He chose to remain a bachelor and led an extremely simple and Spartan life. He lived on a frugal meal of milk, rice, curd and fruits. For nearly fifty years, he lived in a small apartment on the fourth floor of an old building in Paris, where he had to climb 180 steps to reach his house.
Piety, humility and simplicity were conspicuous in Professor Hamidullah’s personality and character. He chose to remain a bachelor and led an extremely simple and Spartan life. He lived on a frugal meal of milk, rice, curd and fruits. For nearly fifty years, he lived in a small apartment on the fourth floor of an old building in Paris, where he had to climb 180 steps to reach his house.
Please restore the formats and I will see what I can do, although my current workload will mean I won't be able to do it for sometime. Or alternatively can I send you my draft version based on what is there for your consideration or approval? Mhakcm ( talk) 12:27, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I recently undid a large number of edits by a user as a copyvio. Do you mind revdel-ing them? Thanks! Singularity42 ( talk) 14:22, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl
Thank you so much for your guidance. I have sent a Declaration of Consent to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org and hopefully this will assist with approval to republish the relevant images on my Wikipedia pages.
Please let me know if I have not done this correctly - my wife, Adele, who has written the pages (she is a journalist) has asked me to send the Declaration of Consent - and neither of us is particularly knowledgeable about the copyright process for Wikipedia, nor the correct copyright to use. However, we think that the general CC-by-sa-3.0 will be fine.
Adele and I like your Wiki name - we both believe that in order to be creative one needs a lot of time to gaze into the middle distance. Constant panic is not conducive to wise thinking or creativity....
Regards
Konstantin CalvinSays 06:17, 30 August 2011 (UTC) <redacted to avoid spam> Preceding unsigned comment added by CalvinSays ( talk • contribs)
Hello Moonriddengirl, I have prepared an drive yesterday to get the most images moved to the Wikimedia Commons. It is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Images and Media/Commons/Drive Sep 2011. It will start at 12 years ago or more precisely at 00:00, 1 September 2011 (UTC). There are some awards you may get. You may sign up now. We need lots of sysops too to delete the moved images. ~~ Ebe123~~ talk Contribs 17:27, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Related to the above, there will soon be (hopefully) many editors moving image to Commons. What should we do about OTRS-approved images on en.wiki? Should they be moved to Commons? Is there anything special we should know or do? Someone asked about this ten months ago, but didn't receive an answer; do you know? All the best, – Quadell ( talk) 13:24, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Kindly restore all of this ( Dairat al Maarif, Pearls Industry of Hyderabad, List of riots in Hyderabad and Muhammad Hamidullah) to previous version so that i can note the references and re-write those articles as per standards of WP policy. regards-- Omer123hussain ( talk) 16:37, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for guiding us to make the articles meet the WP std policy, regards-- Omer123hussain ( talk) 22:44, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
Did you notice any other copyright problems in the article? My thoughts that it had some copyright infringement were lessened when I responded to you on the talk page. If you don't believe there are any more problems I will remove the tag and continue to fix any small issues as I find them. Ryan Vesey Review me! 21:51, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Hey there. I just noticed your deletion in Penn's article, the reason being that it "needs writing in original language." However, the text you deleted does not really rise up to any originality level in the first place, as it consists mainly of program titles:
"Penn is also the home to interdisciplinary institutions such as the Institute for Medicine and Engineering, the Joseph H. Lauder Institute for Management and International Studies, the Institute for Research in Cognitive Science, and the Executive Master's in Technology Management Program."
Except for the first 5-6 words it is hard to see how the rest of the text can be written in original language. I am hesitant to revert the article to its previous version, since you seem to have great experience with copyright issues, so maybe there is something I am missing here, but I strongly believe that the deleted sentence was fine. Thanks for reading this. 129.67.97.231 ( talk) 13:01, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
There used to be a Wikipedia article for "Solid Modeling Solutions" (the link was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_Modeling_Solutions ) but I see that it has been deleted.
I did not write the article, but I did work with many of the people mentioned in the piece, and was mentioned briefly there.
So, I am curious to know, what were the issues related to the deletion of the article?
PS - After posting the above inquiry, I saw the following, which does explain some of the issues with the article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyright_problems/2011_January_23
Rdfuhr ( talk) 13:02, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, I saw that you deleted the page for the PBS KIDS television program SciGirls back on December 9, 2010 due to CP reasons. I had stated rewriting the article and wanted to ask if you recalled any specific issues with the old version that (hopefully) I can avoid. I am trying to paraphrase and cite information accordingly, but would appreciate any advice you may have. I have yet to move the page, so it is currently located here: User:Pemling/SciGirls.
Thank you for your time! You do amazing work on a ton of articles; I hope I am able to make this one (my first, actually) meet up to you standards! Pemling ( talk) 13:20, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, well-timed indeed. I've been gnoming through some business, management, finance topics, and oh my, there's the smell of plagiarism in many places. Just a suggestion: your piece might be stronger on the way forward, pointing towards specific strategies to maintain WP's authority on the internet. Could I suggest a few points?
From my work at DYK (Plagiarism Central) over the past few months, the issues are (1) off-line references (a hassle to check in the normal reviewing processes); and (2) the sheer number of references, even when they're online and checkable with the duplication detector, etc., so you end up with spot-checks only. Signpost readers need something to grip onto in terms of practical strategies. Tony (talk) 14:56, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
As you may have noticed, a couple of minutes ago I tweaked your Signpost article significantly, as I would do any other article on the wiki. Per protocol, I now invite your own reversions and/or discussions :) I must say that it did make for an informed and engaging read. As you probably also saw, I have scheduled it for Monday publication: please let me know if this does not suit. Regards, - Jarry1250 Weasel? Discuss. 17:02, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello there,
My name is Marco, I'm the webmaster of Paul Polansky, an American author and poet (paulpolansky.net). I uploaded a couple of personal photos of Paul a couple of days ago on his wikipedia page and noticed today that it's been deleted. Also, reviews of his books have been deleted. Can you please help me out restore them? Please let me know what do I need to do because I spent a lot of time uploading the material. Many thanks in advance!
Puregoldxxxx ( talk) 17:56, 3 September 2011 (UTC)Marco
Hi there. As you already attended this article twice, I thought I'll contact you directly. Again, the same copyright material was introduced by an IP (fifth time). Other than removing the revisions, shouldn't the article be protected? Best regards. -- Muhandes ( talk) 08:10, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
I noticed at Se Ri Pak a remarkable overlap with this webpage, e.g. at "Pak also competed...". It looks as if some of it goes way back in the history, but it is not the result of a single edit, and there may even be some circular referencing going on via About.com. I wonder if you might unleash your copyvio superpowers to uncover the true tale? LeadSongDog come howl! 15:44, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Pak has also competed in a professional men's event, at the 2003 SBS Super Tournament on the Korean Tour. The Korean Tour is a feeder tour for the Asian Tour and does not offer world ranking points. She finished 10th in the event, becoming the first woman to make the cut in a professional men's tournament since Babe Zaharias did so in 1945.
Pak also competed in a men's professional event at the 2003 SBS Super Tournament on the Korean Tour. She finished 10th, becoming the first woman to make the cut in a professional men's event since Babe Didrickson Zaharias did so in 1945.
Like Sörenstam, Pak has also competed in a professional men's golf event, at the 2003 SBS Super Tournament on the Korean Tour. Unlike Sörenstam, however, she did make the cut and eventually finished 10th.
Hello Moonriddengirl! It's been a long time since we spoke, but I'm back, in good shape, and editing again.
There was one thing that came to my mind. There is a website called PopCrush for music reviews, etc., which, as I already spoke about with another editor, is not regarded as a reliable source, so, it will be remvoed from the article I was working on. However, after I added the refs, I noticed that on every review of every song from the album on this article, there was a section which played the whole song. I don't know what the case is with this and copyright stuff.
Yours,
-- &レア ( talk) 16:02, 4 September 2011 (UTC) (aka Theologiae)
Dear Moonriddengirl, Thank you for responding. I noticed that it was mentioned in the reason for my deletion i read again was that the author of my bio did not have proper permission from me and made mistakes concerning copyright issues. Well, as you can imagine, I wrote my own bio ( trying to save money after being told a ridiculous charge for someone else to write it - so I wrote it ) and everything in that bio is correct to the best of my knowledge. I would not lie for I don't have to. Without sounding boastful , my reputation as a musician and songwriter speaks for itself as far as my accomplishments that are again accurately mentioned in my bio. That doesn't mean people who are successful don't lie their faces off ! There is one discrepancy concerning my career and that is my name was not listed on a song I co-wrote with Rod Stewart and Carmine Appice called "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy". It was my first hit record. It took FOREVER to get my name listed as a co-writer on the song. One reason it FINALLY got listed was that when I sold my publishing company, their main "jewel" in my catalog was "Sexy". Half the publishing part of the catalog I sold was well over $500,000. THAT is why my name was finally on the song - it had to be or Full Keel Music would have given me much less. I also wrote Young Turks , Infatuation and Crazy 'Bout Her with Rod. I won a Grammy co-writing with Kim Carnes, Craig Krampf for the movie , Flashdance. I also wrote for Heart, Pat Benetar, with Michael Bolton , Eddie Money , played with Jimi Hendrix , Alice Cooper , Cactus, The Buddy Miles Express etc. If one looks at a lot of the people mentioned here and my bio, you will see my name all over the place. I will try to understand what I need to do for their seems to be a lot of paper work which if I have to do, so be it. I do have some other places that can be checked. I was invited to join the "Songwriter Institute" ( Nashville " of 12-14 songwriters that have written over 25 #1 records in the last three years. I would never had been invited if I where not what I said I was and for my reputation and success. My main site is Reverbnation, MySpace ( where you can hear my jamming with Jimi Hendrix ) and Facebook. By the way, the bio that you folks have looked at was supposed to be closed down a long time ago but I was surprised it was still up. I believe the guy I paid for 2 years a LONG time ago went broke and the site is still there ? Seem so someone would have to be paying a fee for being the web master ? At any rate, I am all over your your Encyclopedia with my accomplishments and sorry for the mess. I am really puzzled who ( artist, record co etc. complained about a claim or claims I made to report to you and have me deleted ? I DEFINITELY want to know who that is if possible. Thanks again for your response and again I will try to figure out how to respond to your request properly. I am not complaining but there seems to be a lot to do. Regards, Duane Hitchings <redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captainhit ( talk • contribs) 02:48, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
If I'm coming to Wikipedia, I EXPECT encyclopedic content, not abridged content. Dictionaries are abridged, encyclopedias should NOT be abridged for content. Ever. Else, it is no longer an encyclopedia. So, a list of 100, whether it's a list from one publisher, one government or the number of levels of odor of flatulence is irrelevant. The ENTIRE list is germane or NONE of the list should be used as a bait and switch for an abridged subject. Perhaps a note to the editing party suggesting a permission be obtained or it will be deleted would be a good policy? Rather than Wikipedia, the abridge encyclopedic source of abridgement? I'm REALLY big on copyright and patent rights, as an information security professional. I'm also REALLY big on INFORMATIVE SOURCES OF INFORMATION, not ABRIDGED. Abridged is worthless and we can eliminate 2/3 of the articles present in physics alone to abridge, rather than INFORM. Wzrd1 ( talk) 04:16, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
How to handle the following situation:
Does this mean the image is a copyvio and has to be deleted from commons?-- Sodabottle ( talk) 12:19, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Could you take a look and comment? It's a high-visibility article so editors are reasonably concerned that it's copyvio blanked. cheers. — Spaceman Spiff 16:13, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
MRG, can't quite see the relevance of the cartoon, and another problem is that the original page is "huge"—even on my 27" monitor it's hard to track through; but in the article, it's just a splotch of colour, unreadable at that size (even at the size I boosted it to). The "Handbook" pic is now so small it's not worth including. I don't mind if you remove it. Tony (talk) 13:25, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. This is the link you asked me [6]. I was wondering, would you say that [7] is usable?
Thank you,
Yours,
-- &レア ( talk) 18:21, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello MRG, I have a copyright/OTRS question for you. I asked to have some pictures released by Kinross Gold to be included in the articles (as pictures of gold mines are difficult to get by traditional methods based on location and security), and they have agreed to release 4, I currently have them in my email inbox, so I can upload them, but I am unfamiliar with how to show that they offered to release their copyright for use here. Can you assist? -- kelapstick( bainuu) 22:11, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Being neither American nor a politician, I encountered a series of content removal edits from a user claiming that "..the information is severe copy infringement by a banned user. I was given the OK to delete it by another admin." The whole exchange is here. Being a mere mortal I cannot test the assertion that the material deleted was indeed a copyvio or not . I have rolled back all the edits of FrittataOhio but there are now questions as to whether he/she was right and the edits that he/she made were genuine efforts to fix up earlier copy-vios. Help !. Velella Velella Talk 22:48, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
{{subst:cclean|url=whatever}}
would probably be the better choice. --
Moonriddengirl
(talk) 11:40, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Wow. I'm impressed. Don Lammers ( talk) 00:52, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
This edit summary was a little, erm, light on details. {{ umbox}} exists specificially for use messages like this. If you want a lighter background colour then it's trivial to add one. Must a mountain be made of this particular molehill? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 11:06, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
I semi-accidently found a copyright violation. [8] is the Terms of use. [9] is the copied article. No Modifications is specified, so the license is invalid here. Correct? I removed all the copied prose from the article. Is there any more steps I need to take. The IP who added the violation hasn't edited in one year. Thanks-- intelati talk 21:12, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
{{subst:cclean|url=http://www.contactpakistan.com/ExplorePakistan/Bela.html}}
on the talk page, and it'll do the rest. :) Thanks for finding and taking care of that! --
Moonriddengirl
(talk) 21:44, 7 September 2011 (UTC)The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
That would be why you are the only person I go to when I have a copyright question. intelati talk 21:53, 7 September 2011 (UTC) |
Since you are one of the copyright experts and your name popped in my head, can you comment on a copyright claim that was posted on my talk page? Sounds plausible, but makes me wonder a bit as when I checked a few Virginia-based candidates web pages, I found copyright notices. Thanks. -- Gogo Dodo ( talk) 06:41, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | ||
For patiently guiding me through copyright guidelines in your busy schedule and helping me correct my mess, which would have been very difficult hadn't it been for you. Thank you. Suraj T 13:04, 8 September 2011 (UTC) |
Hi.
I contact him and all, and at first he seemed more interested in knowing about me that in wikipedia, i answer his questions regarding my studies, my work, my travel interests always urging him to tell me exactly what he wanted help with.
He finally contact me in the talk page, he at first insisted on using e-mails, just to tell me that he is "compiling" work to do.
Anyway, i keep letting messages in his talk page but he hasn`t edited since August 25 and further checking his contributions he hasn`t made a single edit to an article, only to his user and user talk pages.
What do you think this means? Is he busy? Did he fool us? How long do i keep checking on him?
As always, thanks in advance. Zidane tribal ( talk) 04:25, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Can I upload these images? They are very old images of Ooty and it is a government website which makes no mention of any copyrights. Thanks. Suraj T 10:04, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
{{
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images, but the content is best posted to Commons and the questions addressed there as these images can be used by multiple wikis. e.g the cars in the picture would date that image to the 20s/30s and so on. cheers. —
Spaceman
Spiff 10:18, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Looking at the first couple, it seems that was the date they were taken. I'm not sure about the date they were published. Copyright laws are complex. :/ But that would be good to add to your question at MCQ, as it might help them determine the status. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:09, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that you have deleted a particular paragraph I put up on Social inequality. Since I am new to Wikipedia I am still not very familiar with it, and from now I will pay good attention towards copyright issues. I have a doubt, can I copy (even if it is just a line or two) from another Wikipedia article, if yes, what exactly is to be done? Thanx in advance! Nmkirpalani ( talk) 11:16, 9 September 2011 (UTC)nmkirpalani
Okay cool, thanks for addressing the doubt immediately. =) Nmkirpalani ( talk) 11:28, 9 September 2011 (UTC)nmkirpalani
Hello I understand why you deleted my edits on the article Wipro. I just wanted to ask you whether I can rewrite the same material in my own words and properly cite it this time. Thank you. Poojalh ( talk) 16:40, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. I am under the impression that you are either in charge of copyright issues or are at least an expert on them. I hope you don't mind me asking out of the blue, but can I remove a {{non-free}} template from an article if there appears to be nothing wrong with it? The template doesn't explicitly say that I can't remove but I am not sure. The template was placed with the rationale "I suspect with recent amendements that the Act is still copyright".
The article in question, Riot (Damages) Act 1886, relates to a statute which is an edict of government and is therefore in the public domain in the United States, whether amended or not, and regardless of its status anywhere else (according to the United States Copyright Office). This has been discussed at Wikisource, and, as far as I can see, they appear to be content to reprint the whole of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom that are, unlike this Act, certainly in copyright, in the United Kingdom, on the strength of this rule of law and the Crown Waiver / Open Government License.
It also appears to be in the public domain in the United Kingdom, as the effect of section 164(4) of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 appears to be that amending an Act does not create a new copyright in it.
The amendments in question themselves consist of the mechanistic and purely consequential substitution of one technical term of art for another due to a change in nomenclature (e.g. "police area" for "police district", "police fund" for "police rate" and "compensation authority" for "police authority"), and do not appear to me to contain any creative content at all.
I also think it could be justified as fair use anyway because the use of the unamended text would be misleading or at least very confusing because police districts etc don't exist anymore, and the text provides context for the explanation of the amendments etc.
I could go on, but I hope that I don't need to. What should I do? James500 ( talk) 23:53, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. James500 ( talk) 00:32, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey Moonridengirl, long time no talk. I have a copyright/plagerism question for you in regards to J. E. "Buster" Brown. I've read your 'essay' about copyright concerns but I'm still unsure about this situation. Much of the contents of the Brown article seems to be paraphrased from a University of Texas biography. It's not a copy/paste but much of the article still closely paraphrases this site. You've been my go-to person in the past on copyright issues, so I figured you'd be a good person to ask if this article really is good to go or if it strays across the line. Thanks for any help you can provide. -- TreyGeek ( talk) 04:18, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
I have decided to give you and Drmies talkbacks to your own page now, there seems to be a question from one of the few non-copvyios but close-paraphrasing issue on the outreach project in that section. — Spaceman Spiff 14:07, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
That essay is really excellent. Copyright concerns are usually difficult to write about it a way that's not so detailed as to be difficult to follow, yes not so general as to be inaccurate. Your essay is informative, persuasive, and just good reading. Thank you. – Quadell ( talk) 12:56, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi MRG, perhaps it's possible to encourage editors to balance a number of issues in determining whether plagiarism or close paraphrasing is occurring. I played with the box at WP:CANVASS, but these are just vague musings at the moment. The scenarios are meant to be the extreme ends on separate but related judgmental scales. Is the concept useful? Tony (talk) 12:41, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Length of wording in question | Closeness to the original | Distinctiveness of original wording or meaning | Attribution | |
Less of an issue | Short | Your own wording1 | Not distinctive | Fully attributed |
↕ | ↕ | ↕ | ↕ | |
More of an issue | Long | Exact wording duplicated | Distinctive | Not directly attributed |
1Excluding "non-creative" text.
Think this is close paraphrased enough (from here) to warrant deletion? There's no clean version... Calliopejen1 ( talk) 15:24, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello, Moonriddengirl! Your name was suggested by Crohnie ( talk · contribs) as an administrator who is familiar with copyright issues that could possibly assist in a situation that needs resolution. What happened was that an article up for FA ( Ted Bundy) attracted attention for some of the images in the article due to the FA process. These images were subsequently nominated for deletion on the Commons based on the belief that the Archives are not the true copyright holder and therefore have no right to license images that are not PD; and that nomination remains open and unresolved. But I'm really not sure why. In the past, an editor had contacted the State Archives of Florida in regards to all the images contained within that archive, and was told that attribution to the archives was the only requirement for their use. I very recently contacted the same State agency concerning only the images from their archives used in the Bundy article, and was informed that they are aware of no copyright issues, and that attribution was the only requirement. A professional author who had used an image from that archives in his for-profit book on Bundy has confirmed that only attribution to the State Archives of Florida was needed. The editor who nominated the images for deletion refused to withdraw the nomination unless proof that the State of Florida is the true and actual copyright holder is presented (so that it therefore has the right to do what they are already doing).
My position is this: twice now the State has confirmed that we may use the images just as long as we credit the "State Archives of Florida" (and we do). Is this not tantamount to a CC-by-SA license being explicitly given to us by them? Must an OTRS ticket be filed for each and every image from this archive... when they've said that not only can WP use them, but anyone can? The "template" that was used in the "Permission" sections of the images (created by Andy Dingley in 2008) has been challenged as well, and another deletion nomination concerning an image from the FBI's own website has also resulted from this article's failed FA nomination. Nothing's happening on the Commons, but if we had to go by consensus over there, these deletion nominations would be closed. Myself and several other editors who have put a lot of work into this article (not to mention others whose work involves using images from these State archives) would appreciate any input you could give us. Discussion on the Bundy images continues here, but we would like input on how to close the image deletion nominations as we firmly believe they have no valid basis. Thank you for your time! Doc talk 04:13, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
You've been very helpful to this editor [14], but I suspect the blocked contributor couldn't wait any longer [15]. Please correct me if you think otherwise. I've left a note for Drmies as well. Thanks, 99.184.129.216 ( talk) 15:52, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. In case you haven't seen, I thought I should bring to your attention Special:Contributions/Ilovemoonriddengirl. New account, only made 2 edits, both clear vandalism related to Pure Reason Revolution topics. Bondegezou ( talk) 14:44, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, I wonder if you can offer some advice on how I can get help with copyright cleanup. I've spent the past month or so mopping up behind one class from the India Education Program, the students of which are extremely unclear on the fact that copyvios are not allowed here. Their campus ambassadors say they are working with them on the topic, but in the meantime, the copyvios keep rolling in. Do you know if there's any way to marshal some troops to systematically check the contributions from this class, and possibly from other IEP classes? I've made a start of a log at User:Fluffernutter/checks - it's incomplete, and doesn't even log a lot of the actions I've taken yet since I didn't start logging until yesterday, but if I could just get enough experienced users to check out all the students' contributions and annotate that list, I could at least get on top of things as they keep coming in. As it is, I'm running around frantically, hoping I don't miss anything huge. More warm bodies would be a wonderful thing... A fluffernutter is a sandwich! ( talk) 13:49, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
>:(
Reaper Eternal (
talk) 14:52, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
I wonder if it's necessary to try to systematically check all the classes' contribs the way we've (so, so wonderfully, you guys!) crowdsourced this one since yesterday. I'm torn between "it may be a waste of human capital" and "but if there are copyvios, it's so much more important to catch them NOW"...anyone have opinions on whether we need to do the whole set? A fluffernutter is a sandwich! ( talk) 15:55, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
In your Copious Free Time (tm), could you take a look at David Wallis Reeves and make sure I didn't paraphrase the sources too closely when I expanded the article? I don't think it's a problem, but I'd appreciate a cross-check if you have the time. Thanks.-- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:18, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Redacted comment by blocked sock account My76Strat ( talk) 22:39, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
This file is up for F5 however I think it may not be copyrightable as it only consists of typefaces, individual words, slogans, or simple geometric shapes., if so what needs to be done to the comments section to reflect. Mt king (edits) 22:50, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
I've now got my PhD thesis in and now have some time to be on wikipedia again. I've started working on understanding bots, with my current aim to be getting a bot for WP:CP working again. Not a problem if someone beats me to it as it will be a useful learning exercise regardless. Would you be so kind as to add User:dpmukBOT to the confirmed user group. Not sure if I'm going to run into any captchas or the like before making the bot autoconfirmed but it would be one less thing to worry about. Proof I created the account is here. Cheers. Dpmuk ( talk) 23:10, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi MrG. The so-called "vanished user" vandalising PASOK MP articles is back. Could you please semi as needed? Thank you. Dr.K. λogos πraxis 23:27, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, me again, again not sure how to proceed. This diff shows suspected copyvio material which has been removed from the article but left in the history. I don't have the book, so can't confirm or reject the suspicion (even if I find it hard to believe that a published work could be so poorly written). I have an idea, perhaps a wrong idea, that copyright matter is still considered visible even if it is not in the current version of the article. What, if anything, should be done here? Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 23:25, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi again Moonriddengirl. I know you have experience with OTRS. There's a rather complicated question Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions#How_can_a_journal_publisher_grant_permission_to_use_images_en_masse.3F about the academic journal GENE granting permission for its material to be used on Wikipedia. I'm not sure I follow the whole situation, or what license is being granted, or what articles and images are applicable... but I thought I'd bring it to your attention. Do you have an answer for them? Thanks, – Quadell ( talk) 18:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
hi i would just like to know why have u deleted my article on regional rural banks even though i paraphrased it. however i would really appreciate if u could just help me write a better article on regional rural banks since i am being marked on it. thanks mahima.chawla — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahima.chawla ( talk • contribs) 13 September 2011
Hi MRG, I've realised that the problem is rife, by doing a few spot-checks, just a half-sentence here and there, google searches. What's the best action to take when I find the whole lead, for example, has been copy-pasted in from a website? Like this one, which is worse than the dup. detector shows, probably because there's a scroller on the source website. I don't really want to spend the time fixing copyvios I see in gnoming. That's a greater investment in this field than I'm prepared to give; but I am willing to flag copyvios I see before my eyes. Really, every business/management book article needs systematic scrutiny.
From your experience, if the article starts with pasted-in text, is copyvio likely in the rest of the article? It would seem so to me, since the lead is where you'd expect the easiest paraphrasing would lie. Problem is, the article sections are usually where material is likely to have been copied straight out of the book itself, which is hard-copy only. A common problem. The article still contains not a single reference, even just general ones without ref tags.
There are an awful lot of these in management and business: there seems to have been a culture of this. Perhaps the editors need to be identified and quizzed about it? Thanks. Tony (talk) 11:23, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Identifying and Managing Project Risk, by Tom Kendrick, is a book about identifying and managing risks on projects. The book is geared to be used by a junior Project Manager and Kendrick aligns the chapters of the Book to the Project Management Institute's (PMI) Guide to the Project Management Body of Knowledge, (PMBOK) 2000 edition. This text is designed to be used as a supplemental source of information when studying for the Project Management Professional (PMP) certification exam.
It is a rather unusual situation but I mentioned you in the PROD for Cultural_Profile_of_South_Kosal yesterday and now feel that I should have notified you. Sorry for not doing so at the time & I hope that this does not cause any difficulties. - Sitush ( talk) 12:18, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi folks (MRG, TPS and others): Here's what I said I'd come up with a couple of days ago:
User:SpacemanSpiff/S3/IEP/FAQ. I've gone through the articles created and identified the most significant issues. I've put those problems in this FAQ/Cheatsheet. This ought to be required reading for any student before they start editing an article and the Ambassador/Course instructor ought to get their acknowledgement at the end of the page. The other part (which should really be a separate page) is a log of all the articles that these students edit, and they are required to fill it every time they make a course related edit. If that's done, the ambassador and/or other editors can spot check it and mark the problems within the table in the comments section. Once that's done, it's easy for the ambassador/instructor to work through the problems and also easier for the many many editors and admins who patrol these pages to take action. What say you? (I'm only placing {{
tb}}
for Hmundol and the ambassador who participated in the above discussion. Everyone else, I'm guessing, already watches this page. cheers. —
Spaceman
Spiff 20:54, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
{{
tb}}
. Your idea is superb, your FAQ does answer most of the questions students might need. We ll surely think upon this. One quick question, in your table who would be "Wikipedia Evaluator" ?
Rangilo Gujarati (
talk) 21:04, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey MRG, I'm sure your talk page is not the right forum to discus this, but perhaps you'll loan a fellow admin a clue:
John Duffey is on my watchlist and I just noticed Wikidemon removing a huge chunk of text as a copyivo. It's clear that it contains the same text as this allmusic article, but what I don't understand is that article is copyright 2011. You can see that the text was originally added to Wikipedia here in 2005. What do we do when someone copies Wikipedia text and asserts a copyright? Could that have happened here?
Disclaimer: I restored that content here in 2010, but the IP that originally added it was not me - I started editing as an IP in April/May 2007 and registered in May.
Thanks in advance. Toddst1 ( talk) 07:33, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
So, Maggie and you talkpage watchers may have noticed that a lot of the Indian editors coming out of the Global Education program are having problems understanding copyright. This is unsurprising; in Indian culture, copying is seen as the highest form of praise, in a sort of "this source is so good I cannot add anything to it, and furthermore consider it so perfect that I'm willing to associate my name with it" kind of way. This is really complimentary for the creator of the source text, but a bit problematic for Wikipedia, which could find itself in an awkward legal position if students or other editors go around posting copyrighted text - whatever their intentions.
As such, a group of users have had to go through, patrolling the work done by the Indian editors, and on quite a few occasions have had to block the editors for persistently not groking copyright. On a couple of occasions there have been unblocks due to assurances that the students now understand the issues, followed by additional violations and a new block This isn't a great situation; we end up with editors who are constantly overwhelmed with patrolling lots of new pages (and, understandably, get a bit irked) along with students who can't complete their course due to their blocks. We can't let them edit, because there are legal issues, but at the same time we can't let them not edit. As such, I've got a wee idea that Maggie, random talkpage watchers and the course ambassadors might want to consider.
What if we mandated that users in the Indian program, rather than experimenting around in mainspace, needed to create articles in their userspace, with a NOINDEX tag, which would then be checked by someone before being switched over to mainspace? The lack of mainspace and the presence of a NOINDEX tag would substantially reduce the legal concerns - people are very, very unlikely to see the pages - and would also mean that we can identify what specifically the students have added when checking for issues. Rather than having an article on PFI which the student contributed part of (which leads to having to muck around with diffs to work out what turned up where, when and was written by whom) we have a page which just consists of the student's contributions. A lot easier to check.
As to who should do the checking, we've got two options. Neither of them involve editors. What the program needs, what the students need and what the wiki needs are editors who are prepared to come in and deal with issues that arise with a friendly smile, a kind tone and a big helping of good faith, and this simply isn't going to happen if the only editors who care about shepherding the new users along are constantly overwhelmed with copyvios. The two actual options are that the pages are checked by students and that the pages are checked by ambassadors. In the former case, those students who do grok copyright would take on the responsibility of scanning drafted articles for problems; in the second, that role would b taken by the Campus Ambassadors. Personally, I think the onus needs to be on the Ambassadors; students didn't sign up to be tutoring and reviewing the classes, but the Ambassadors did. In addition, allowing the Ambassadors some healthy experience of recognising copyright violations and teaching people how to avoid them - without the pressure of editors shouting about it - would be really, really helpful. At the end of the year or semester, students leave, and new students come in. The Ambassadors remain constant. If we've got one group we can give some real experience dealing with these issues, it should be the ambassadors; otherwise, we'll just have to go through the same awkward process next year.
End result: we don't get sued, students can edit, editors don't get pressure and the ambassadors get some more experience teaching on avoiding copyright problems, which they can apply to future courses. Thoughts? Ironholds ( talk) 18:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey, as you are already aware about Wikipedia:Plagiarism conducted by few of the students in IEP, I am stuck at one place, please help me out on what can be done. There is an article Mahatma_Gandhi_National_Rural_Employment_Guarantee_Act now it is clear that this article has been copy pasted only from somewhere, one of the sites I tracked down is NREGA, but also since it is an ACT, do we need to rephrase it so that it does not violate copyrights ? or we keep it as it is. Rangilo Gujarati ( talk) 19:05, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
MRG, what's the policy on what appears to be the copying over of a succession of titles and subtitles from another document, not within quotations marks? I'm referring in particular to the lists of "principles" in The Toyota Way. I don't have access to the source, which is presumably Ref. 1, an internal company document, but it looks fishy to me.
This pattern often occurs in articles on books – articles I've been gnoming though in the fields of management and business. How much straight copying of structural elements is too much?
Thanks for your work in this complex area: I guess we need to be educated about these matters. Tony (talk) 06:46, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
MRG, we currently have 11 open CCIs relating to WP:India (and one that should be opened soon, I've put in the request) and many of them haven't been touched in ages. However, what's happening with many of these articles is that the copyvio becomes derivative text and more difficult to find out. And of course the age of these, e.g. Bugnot CCI we've had copyvio material from two years ago sitting happily around, curiously I got to know about the issue and created the CCI only when I was working on another CCI. These 11+1 CCIs and the one that was closed (Vrghs jacob) impact more than a 1000 articles (conservative estimate) and with untracked socks re-adding copyvios (I've blocked socks on three CCIs) it's getting more difficult. Could we do a drive to clear out these CCIs at least? If we get a few more seasoned hands to clear this up within a target date we might be able to do justice to the other stuff languishing in mainspace. Open to any ideas here. — Spaceman Spiff 20:02, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
{{
Copyvio}}
blanking that links to the CCI case with similar requirements as the current template would be an option. At the least, it'll get the high profile articles addressed. cheers. —
Spaceman
Spiff 06:30, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
{{
Copyvio-CCI}}
which blanks and links to the CCI rather than the copyvio board. At least to be used where the following criteria is met: CCI has been open for 60+ days, the content addition is over 20% of the current article or greater than 10KB (whichever is less). Any editor in good standing can then check it and remove if it's not a copyvio and we don't set a time limit for clean up like we do on the copyvio boards. A 100KB article would most likely be a high-visibility article (both for readers and mirrors and Icon/Alphascript books -- e.g. I've seen some of our copyvio material in a book available at Amazon.com that I bought inadvertantly and sent back for a full refund admonishing Amazon.com!), so if there's even 10KB of potential copyvio, it is more likely to be addressed than if it's just an entry on the CCI list. Likewise if it's a low priority article and you don't really get visitors to it, at the least the content is blanked until it gets fixed. —
Spaceman
Spiff 12:29, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
{{
Copyvio-CCI}}
which blanks the page and links to the CCI to clean it up. Step 3 - one of the CCI regulars clean up the article when they get to it. Steps 2 and 3 are only if no one follows through on Step 1. If one of the bots could be repurposed then we might be able to start this soon as it'll be just an additional task approval at BRFA, not a new bot. cheers. —
Spaceman
Spiff 16:39, 16 September 2011 (UTC)Can bots tell if a specific entry at CCI has been checked? IOW, are they able to blank only the ones that are still unevaluated? -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:57, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
In looking at S710's CCI, I have uncovered several direct translations from copyrighted sources in French. (Googling for proper nouns when a sentence seemed like a translation based on weird preposition choices/sentence structure.) Since it is going to be really hard to google to find these, since some of the content is sourced to offline books etc, and since the translation means that S710's bad english is not much of an indicator in terms of own work vs. not own work, I think the best approach would be to remove all substantive content contributed by this user. Thoughts? Calliopejen1 ( talk) 15:42, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Please take a look at Wikipedia Talk:Images#Synthetic images presented as existing images?. (Archived here) The discussion probably needs to be moved to Village Pump or someplace better, both in light of the effort to keep the talk page focused and to get some more opinions. Dankarl ( talk) 21:11, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Oh, I did save it. At the other page. :) (I was still waking up then. :D) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:45, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
http://www.gmts.co.uk/explore/history/history.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_public_transport_authorities_in_Manchester I am concerned about how much info is being sourced to this copyrighted website. I'm no expert in such matters but someone recommended I ask your opinion on this. thanks RafikiSykes ( talk) 03:00, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl. Would you revision delete the copyright violations Supergpzc ( talk · contribs) added to Tinkers (novel)? Thanks, Cunard ( talk) 18:47, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi MRG, I started expanding our article on The Shirelles, but I have noticed that User:MR. MOTOWN inserted a copyvio from Allmusic in this edit in 2006. Could you remove the revisions and Revdelete the versions with copyvio? (It looks like a mess, as there have been constructive edits since then. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 05:23, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
hello,
have you got any example letters that ask for permission to use a copyrighted text under public domain? I would like copy and paste the text from this site. Thank you.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ Hey it's me I am dynamite 10:47, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
i have edited the article Socio-economic issues in India and this time i have written it myself completely. i would be grateful if u could just review it before anybody else finds some mistake and deletes it. thank you Ds731992 ( talk) 10:35, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
I am extremely sorry for putting up my note right on the top. Anyways thanks a lot for reviewing the article and leaving some very useful tips. As per your suggestions i have re edited the article and made it more relevant in the indian sense. i also want to thank u for putting up the under construction tag. thanks alot! Ds731992 ( talk) 19:03, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
As you were the admin banning David r I thought I ought tell you that at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Johann Hari sockpuppetry I've raised the possibility that one of his socks is still operating almost- instinct 16:46, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey MRG. Could you tell where to find the template where you recommend and IP create an account? I think I've seen it before but I can't remember where. Jayy008 ( talk) 11:57, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your vote of confidence, which led to a beautiful barnstar appearing on my talk page today. I appreciate it. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 16:45, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Copyright violation. Revision Delete, please?-- intelati talk 03:36, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Could tell me please if it is free for anyone to just go ahead and "delete all substantive contributions from a user presumptively", if he or she thinks it apropriate, or are there certain procedures to be followed? If so what are they? thanks. S711 ( talk) 17:07, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Right after your post at Bahamut's talk page, TomStar81 gave a posthumous barnstar. Is there some way to elegantly include that in a prominent location on his userpage? I ask you since as a normal user I cannot edit his userpage, given it's being preserved in his memory. CycloneGU ( talk) 23:44, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
It's copied and the material is copyright, but the question is how much can we use and in how many articles. I've left this [19] at the moment, but deleted this [20]. Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 20:54, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi! Sorry to bother you, but I'm not sure of my way around meta, and I figured as this was your area of expertise you would be well worth checking in with. I'm having a bit of a discussion on Wikiversity about the existence of pages containing nothing but copyrighted text, but which seem to be claimed as ok under fair use. Ignoring various problems with that claim, if they are to be claimed under fair use, I presume they would need an exemption per the Foundation's licensing policy. But I'm not sure who to ask to confirm that they could be included under an exemption and/or if an exemption is required. Do you have a suggestion as to who to follow this up with? Thanks heaps. - Bilby ( talk) 01:31, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
I've recently stumbled upon this issue. It appears that copyvio material is being added at an alarming pace. From what I see on the talk page, the ambassadors are basically saying that nothing can be done because "this problem is unlikely to be limited to India. Many students, in US, will plagiarize, often, without knowing what they are doing is wrong." I see in your archive that the situation has been brought up in the past. I feel like 5-6 editors would need to contribute most of their time watching their course watchlists for changes and checking each for a copyvio. I don't even know where to take a discussion on addressing this issue. I've gone through the watchlist of two courses and already feel that the problem is quite large. I've gone through a list of ambassadors and see that in most cases, they're just as new to WP as the students. What do we do? I think the program's goals are great but so far, the problems are vast. OlYeller Talktome 18:25, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
I strongly agreed with your comments to Stephen Farmer. We have a similar situation with User_talk:Andrewlees who is a potentially valuable contributor but needs to be treated with kindness and courtesy rather than templates. Please can you sort it out? Kittybrewster ☎ 18:10, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello Moonriddengirl,
I'm the webmaster of Paul Polansky's website and wikipedia page. We exchanged an email few weeks ago but a medical emergency came and I had to have surgery and finally I'm back. Can you please tell me what do I need to do to remove the notices on Paul Polansky's wikipedia page? Thank you "very" much for your help and consideration, I really appreciate it. Best Regards, Marco — Preceding unsigned comment added by Puregoldxxxx ( talk • contribs) 10:50, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
{{multiple issues|BLP sources=September 2011|COI=September 2011}}
{{COI}}
{{Request edit}}
. Finally, you can leave a note at
the conflict of interest noticeboard explaining your situation and connection and asking if there are any lingering concerns.Hi Maggie. This morning I received this email from MediaWiki mail (wiki@mediawiki.org).
"Someone from the IP address 218.249.8.227 requested that we send you a new login password for the English Wikipedia.
The new password for the user account "Mathsci" is "<redacted>". You can now log in to Wikipedia using that password.
If someone else made this request, or if you have remembered your password and you no longer wish to change it, you may safely ignore this message. Your old/existing password will continue to work despite this new password being created for you.
~Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org"
How could such a request be made on wikipedia? IPs in China have been used in the past by Mikemikev to evade his various bans, so my guess is that this is more disruption from Mikemikev.
How can I stop this happening in the future? Thanks, Mathsci ( talk) 07:13, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again but I am having problems trying to improve Paul S Farmer. The response to my asking how I could remove the OR template was to re-gain another you had said I could remove earlier! I appreciate that this is all very trivial for someone as in demand as you, but any further guidance would be much appreciated.-- Paul Stephen Farmer ( talk) 11:32, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello MRG, I was very happy to endorse your request at WP:COIN and I've left a note at my Talk. Opbeith ( talk) 14:17, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Sadly I fear this article will have soon lost its point due to severe expectations of some editors. I am running to go backwards! -- Paul Stephen Farmer ( talk) 13:57, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi there. I appreciate you taking the time to offer your advice on that AFD, it certainly cleared the issue up in my mind. It's unfortunate (IMHO) that the current WP:NFC policies seem open to interpretation as it relates to those kind of articles. I'm concerned that had the AFD been for more popular pages then there might have been substantial opposition resulting in a Keep via consensus, despite the apparent copyright breach this would create. I'm guessing that there are a lot more instances of these kind of potential violations - I've recently made this edit to Guitarist to remove such a list which used the very article it was copied from as a citation. You say you've attempted to draw up policy revisions but haven't been able to get them off the ground. Would there be anything I could do to help? ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹ Speak 11:09, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
Can you have a look at the suspected copyvio on the above page ? I am not sure but it looks like other articles in the series may also be of concern, for example
America's Next Top Model, Cycle 16#Eric Daman looks to be taken from
here give the later has a longer summary. You advice on what to do next would be welcome.
Mt
king
(edits) 23:14, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
i have revised several sections of the cosmic ray-article. in addition, i have added several "citations for verification needed" and "inline citation needed" tags [21]. however, i suspect that some of the content constitutes a copyright concern. how should i proceed? should i add copyright-violation-tags as well? -- mustihussain ( talk) 14:37, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for stepping in, as I was worried this important article might be deleted. Pepso2 ( talk) 22:07, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
User:Kartikkaul1 expanded Harish-Chandra by copying a long section from a (copyrighted) web site, which I have removed, and a quick look at a few of his other contributions suggests that this is not an isolated problem. I don't plan to do anything further about this myself, but I thought I should let you know in case you are running out of copyright problems to deal with... r.e.b. ( talk) 01:44, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello again Moonriddengirl,
I followed your advice and provided the citations needed and replaced that note with COI. I also contacted User talk:Mtking but haven't gotten a reply. I read the wikipedia page of Paul Polansky thoroughly and I think it's fair a neutral. Also, there isn't a single citation from his own website. Can "you" please help me remove the tag? I would really appreciate it!
Puregoldxxxx ( talk) 18:08, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
It seems that other users also want to see the major WikiChevrons award on his userpage. Shall I put together a quick bit to replace the existing templated userbox? I think I'll put both awards inside the box, and the notice of preserving the userpage below it. CycloneGU ( talk) 02:12, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
I thought about condolences, but condolences are something that is usually given to those who love somebody who has passed on. :/ Do you have any idea what the military says when it offers posthumous awards? Maybe that would help. (Of the language you express above, I prefer "awarded posthumously", and I think it might work to start with something "A symbol of our great respect, awarded posthumously" or whatever we wind up with. I'm not seriously proposing the language "A symbol of our great respect" and don't really like it, but I like placing our admiration prior to the time of award.) Speaking of the time of the award, I think replacing the timestamp is a nice touch. Maybe we should hold this particular conversation at the Milhist talk page, though, since the award reflects the project? -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:21, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Honouring Bahamut0013 - discussion started, let's see what they think. Much of the discussion will probably occur there now, so let's both follow that page. CycloneGU ( talk) 15:51, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello again Moonriddengirl,
I followed your advice and provided the citations needed and replaced that note with COI. I also contacted User talk:Mtking but haven't gotten a reply. I read the wikipedia page of Paul Polansky thoroughly and I think it's fair a neutral. Also, there isn't a single citation from his own website. Can "you" please help me remove the tag? I would really appreciate it!
Puregoldxxxx ( talk) 18:13, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello there! I have an off-wiki copyright question that I'm hoping you can give me some general guidance with. Currently the site speeddemosarchive.com runs an official Youtube channel with over 3.5 million views, where it posts speedruns of video games as fair use. The site itself has held several charity speed running events which have raised over $100,000 dollars with the last 3 marathons alone. The question has come up on whether the SDA's Youtube channel could be used as well to raise money for charities. Youtube's policy states that these types of videos will not be allowed for monetization, but I believe they are using this word in place of commercialization which fair use is concerned with. If this is the case then I believe Youtube would allow the profits to be generated from SDA's channel if they went directly to a non-commercial organization such as a non-profit or charity. I haven't found a way to directly contact Youtube however, so I will checking out their user help forums, but I was wondering if you had some useful wisdom for approaching this. Thanks in advance for any help. AerobicFox ( talk) 20:02, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Why did you fully protect that page? You didn't even know what I'm going to do? You aren't the law here, this is an abuse of admin tools...Please consider un-protecting Tachfin ( talk) 13:25, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
"Thank you" for the removal of the article. I'm an hour bent, translated from Russian into English, added references. :-@ I do not understand why you do not delete the article Toccara Jones or Anchal Joseph? They generally seventh place. Or Cassandra Whitehead? Her place is ELEVENTH! KIRILL95 ( talk) 14:00, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Do you have admin privileges on Commons? I need an admin to delete a couple files that were released under GFDL. The agency that released them now says they misunderstood and thought they were releasing them to me only. They want them deleted from Wikipedia and Commons now. I can do the Wikipedia files, but I don't have admin rights on Commons. -- Moni3 ( talk) 17:11, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Can I get your opinion on this? Appreciate your time. -- Moni3 ( talk) 14:35, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello again Moonriddengirl,
I went to Mtking's talk page but it seems there's no way I can leave a message, his talk page is kind of locked with no options of leaving messages. Am I missing something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Puregoldxxxx ( talk • contribs) 18:24, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello again Moonriddengirl,
I forgot to sign my name, I'm really sorry. It seems that I can't leave a message for Mtking, there's no where I can do that on his talk page, it seems to be locked. Am I missing something?
Puregoldxxxx ( talk) 18:36, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello,
I have a copyright question for you ;). I have access to the orginal text of the constitutions of some countries in Arabic. Would it be a copyvio if i translate that text and put it into articles? (as in the constitution of the U.S article) or would this go to wikisource? thanks in advance. Tachfin ( talk) 09:52, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Moon. I'm sure you're busy but can you or someone you know take a look at this article and see if you think it's a copyright violation? I'd like to see what someone else thinks. I think it's somewhat ambiguous and as it's for a Mills College grad student's work, I'd really like to get a few opinions before I nominate it for deletion. I can take it to WP:CP if you're busy. OlYeller Talktome 18:50, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm so sorry, it's me again. Editor M.casanova has posted a large number of direct quotes from the Artgate website of the Fondazione Cariplo, claiming that the material is available under (CC BY-SA 3.0) licence. My guess is that the editor is perhaps connected with the museum or the site. However, some (or all?) of the Artgate pages, such as this one carry a clear copyright notice at the foot of the page, and would thus appear to be specifically excluded from the general release statement here. Once again, I have no idea what action, if any, is needed. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 11:00, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
One more question about the CCI. I hope you don't mind. I saw that the "important notice" remains on the board. I would like to ask you if you would reconsider this extrem measure and remove that notice. It seems to imply very drastic action, that is not necessary in my humble opinion. S711 ( talk) 17:05, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I m a wiki user.There is an article on pakistani artist on "Imran Channa" which is being tagged for deletion and copy-violent which is done by one shared IP ( 182.185.234.113)( 182.185.219.2) ( 182.185.128.145) constantly for few days. i want help from the administration for the protection of the page.. Thank u...-- Artmartxx ( talk) 18:24, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Thank u very much for protect the page Imran Channa..-- Artmartxx ( talk) 11:51, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi MRG, I'm confused as to where I should go for this so I guess I will go to you. User:Krugkris has inserted File:Ebony Bones!.jpg, which is of highly suspect copyright status (Krugkris has already received a warning about inserting copyrighted content), to replace the formerly used image File:Ebony Bones-01.jpg. After I reverted them, they undid my revision and posted on my wall that the old image was not of her. I reverted their revert due to the copyright suspicions I have, then they replied stating that they were from her label. I have since removed both images to avoid copyright issues and misrepresentation of the subject. Could you perhaps discuss the copyright issues with Krugkris and point me to where I could discuss the possible misrepresentation issues, if a seeming Single Purpose Account is worth listening to. Thanks. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 08:11, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Okay. I've taken a couple of steps. In addition to the deletion debate (as these can last forever on Commons), both images are now tagged {{ npd}} because we need verification of license. I have replaced the image in the article with one that is unquestionably free of copyright concerns and unquestionably the subject. It is referenced on Kris Krug's own website. And I have told User:Krugkris that he must verify his identity before he edits or uploads further. If he uploads or edits further without verifying identity first, I will block him for impersonation (in accordance with WP:USERNAME. I do not know if this is actually Kris Krug - it may be - but we can't assume it is. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:46, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, I have a quick question regarding NFC. WP:NFC Policy 1. contains the following statement:
"Where possible, non-free content is transformed into free material instead of using a fair-use defense, or replaced with a freer alternative if one of acceptable quality is available"
What is "a freer alternative" supposed to mean? I would think content is either free (such as released under WP:CC-BY-SA or public domain) or it is non-free (such as all copyrighted material). Also this formulation seems to suggest that this "freer alternative" is meant still to be non-free but "freer" than another non-free work.
Perhaps I am simply interpreting too much into this, but somehow I simply don't get it. Can you clarify this for me? I would really appreciate that. Toshio Yamaguchi ( talk) 16:09, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
I noticed you reverted to article to 6 April version on the basis of copyright infringement I can not see how it can all be such and why you have taken such a drastic action rather than remove suspected infringement. I noticed you or others have done this before on the same reasoning.
I am new to this and you will no doubt have access to what I have done on which articles etc., which I think is not bad for a newcomer even if I say so myself.
However you are probably not aware of the significance of this article in the Muslim community (1.5 billion+) as the person is renowned and as you can see from the various sources very accomplished. I note you too are interested in languages from your profile, but I do not think you can compare to Hamidullah.
Although I can see some sentences may have been copied from some sources by past editors, or slightly altered, most of the source websites do hot have a copyright issue with things being taken from them and are religious propagatory in nature allowing free use or replication of their content.
I am going to restore the article (and make a few changes to re-express things so that there is less chance of infringement) as I think the significance of the man is too great to not have on Wikipedia. I will of course take into account any comments and suggestions you may have. Mhakcm ( talk) 10:51, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I understand the point of copyright material not being re-instated, but my point was it was not all copyright that you deleted and but other additional material/edits has also been deleted, and secondly some of it is not copyright but free. It seems to me you have read one of the sources and said it is too similar and blanket banned material rather than saying such and such is plagiarism but not copyrighted and some is neither and should be left in the article about the man. Is there are tool you have that can point to what is copied from copyrighted sources. If you can send me such or send me the article with material suspected by you of infringement highlighted or unlined, I shall be grateful. Mhakcm ( talk) 11:21, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Hamidullah belonged to an illustrious family of scholars, jurists, writers and sufis. His ancestors migrated from Arabia a few centuries ago. The distinguished sufi scholar Ala al-Din ‘Ali Ibn Ahmad Al-Maha’imi (d. 1431), who is buried in Mahim Mumbai, Habibullah Bijapuri, an eminent sufi of the Deccan, and Muhammad Husayn Shahid, the last principal of the famed madrasah set up by the Brahman vizier Mahmud Gawan, were among his illustrious ancestors. Hamidullah’s great grandfather Mawlvi Muhammad Ghaws Sharfu’l-Mulk (d. 1238/1822) was well versed in Arabic and Islamic studies. He wrote more than 30 books in Arabic, Persian and Urdu. One of his important works is a commentary on the Qur’an, Nathru’l-Marjan fi Rasm Nazmi’l-Qur’an, in seven volumes.
Hamidullah belonged to an illustrious family of scholars, jurists, writers and sufis. His ancestors migrated from Arabia a few centuries ago. The distinguished sufi scholar ‘Ala al-Din ‘Ali Ibn Ahmad Al-Maha’imi (d. 1431), who is buried in Mumbai, Habibullah Bijapuri, an eminent sufi of the Deccan, and Muhammad Husayn Shahid, the last principal of the famed madrasah set up by the Brahman vizier Mahmud Gawan, were among his illustrious ancestors. Professor Hamidullah’s great grandfather Mawlvi Muhammad Ghaws Sharfu’l-Mulk (d. 1238/1822) was well versed in Arabic and Islamic studies. He wrote more than 30 books in Arabic, Persian and Urdu. One of his important works is a commentary on the Qur’an, Nathru’l-Marjan fi Rasm Nazmi’l-Qur’an, in seven volumes.
Piety, humility and simplicity were conspicuous in Hamidullah’s personality and character. He chose to remain a bachelor and led an extremely simple and Spartan life. He lived on a frugal meal of milk, rice, curd and fruits. For nearly fifty years, he lived in a small apartment on the fourth floor of an old building in Paris, where he had to climb 180 steps to reach his house.
Piety, humility and simplicity were conspicuous in Professor Hamidullah’s personality and character. He chose to remain a bachelor and led an extremely simple and Spartan life. He lived on a frugal meal of milk, rice, curd and fruits. For nearly fifty years, he lived in a small apartment on the fourth floor of an old building in Paris, where he had to climb 180 steps to reach his house.
Please restore the formats and I will see what I can do, although my current workload will mean I won't be able to do it for sometime. Or alternatively can I send you my draft version based on what is there for your consideration or approval? Mhakcm ( talk) 12:27, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I recently undid a large number of edits by a user as a copyvio. Do you mind revdel-ing them? Thanks! Singularity42 ( talk) 14:22, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl
Thank you so much for your guidance. I have sent a Declaration of Consent to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org and hopefully this will assist with approval to republish the relevant images on my Wikipedia pages.
Please let me know if I have not done this correctly - my wife, Adele, who has written the pages (she is a journalist) has asked me to send the Declaration of Consent - and neither of us is particularly knowledgeable about the copyright process for Wikipedia, nor the correct copyright to use. However, we think that the general CC-by-sa-3.0 will be fine.
Adele and I like your Wiki name - we both believe that in order to be creative one needs a lot of time to gaze into the middle distance. Constant panic is not conducive to wise thinking or creativity....
Regards
Konstantin CalvinSays 06:17, 30 August 2011 (UTC) <redacted to avoid spam> Preceding unsigned comment added by CalvinSays ( talk • contribs)
Hello Moonriddengirl, I have prepared an drive yesterday to get the most images moved to the Wikimedia Commons. It is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Images and Media/Commons/Drive Sep 2011. It will start at 12 years ago or more precisely at 00:00, 1 September 2011 (UTC). There are some awards you may get. You may sign up now. We need lots of sysops too to delete the moved images. ~~ Ebe123~~ talk Contribs 17:27, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Related to the above, there will soon be (hopefully) many editors moving image to Commons. What should we do about OTRS-approved images on en.wiki? Should they be moved to Commons? Is there anything special we should know or do? Someone asked about this ten months ago, but didn't receive an answer; do you know? All the best, – Quadell ( talk) 13:24, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Kindly restore all of this ( Dairat al Maarif, Pearls Industry of Hyderabad, List of riots in Hyderabad and Muhammad Hamidullah) to previous version so that i can note the references and re-write those articles as per standards of WP policy. regards-- Omer123hussain ( talk) 16:37, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for guiding us to make the articles meet the WP std policy, regards-- Omer123hussain ( talk) 22:44, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
Did you notice any other copyright problems in the article? My thoughts that it had some copyright infringement were lessened when I responded to you on the talk page. If you don't believe there are any more problems I will remove the tag and continue to fix any small issues as I find them. Ryan Vesey Review me! 21:51, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Hey there. I just noticed your deletion in Penn's article, the reason being that it "needs writing in original language." However, the text you deleted does not really rise up to any originality level in the first place, as it consists mainly of program titles:
"Penn is also the home to interdisciplinary institutions such as the Institute for Medicine and Engineering, the Joseph H. Lauder Institute for Management and International Studies, the Institute for Research in Cognitive Science, and the Executive Master's in Technology Management Program."
Except for the first 5-6 words it is hard to see how the rest of the text can be written in original language. I am hesitant to revert the article to its previous version, since you seem to have great experience with copyright issues, so maybe there is something I am missing here, but I strongly believe that the deleted sentence was fine. Thanks for reading this. 129.67.97.231 ( talk) 13:01, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
There used to be a Wikipedia article for "Solid Modeling Solutions" (the link was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_Modeling_Solutions ) but I see that it has been deleted.
I did not write the article, but I did work with many of the people mentioned in the piece, and was mentioned briefly there.
So, I am curious to know, what were the issues related to the deletion of the article?
PS - After posting the above inquiry, I saw the following, which does explain some of the issues with the article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyright_problems/2011_January_23
Rdfuhr ( talk) 13:02, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, I saw that you deleted the page for the PBS KIDS television program SciGirls back on December 9, 2010 due to CP reasons. I had stated rewriting the article and wanted to ask if you recalled any specific issues with the old version that (hopefully) I can avoid. I am trying to paraphrase and cite information accordingly, but would appreciate any advice you may have. I have yet to move the page, so it is currently located here: User:Pemling/SciGirls.
Thank you for your time! You do amazing work on a ton of articles; I hope I am able to make this one (my first, actually) meet up to you standards! Pemling ( talk) 13:20, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, well-timed indeed. I've been gnoming through some business, management, finance topics, and oh my, there's the smell of plagiarism in many places. Just a suggestion: your piece might be stronger on the way forward, pointing towards specific strategies to maintain WP's authority on the internet. Could I suggest a few points?
From my work at DYK (Plagiarism Central) over the past few months, the issues are (1) off-line references (a hassle to check in the normal reviewing processes); and (2) the sheer number of references, even when they're online and checkable with the duplication detector, etc., so you end up with spot-checks only. Signpost readers need something to grip onto in terms of practical strategies. Tony (talk) 14:56, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
As you may have noticed, a couple of minutes ago I tweaked your Signpost article significantly, as I would do any other article on the wiki. Per protocol, I now invite your own reversions and/or discussions :) I must say that it did make for an informed and engaging read. As you probably also saw, I have scheduled it for Monday publication: please let me know if this does not suit. Regards, - Jarry1250 Weasel? Discuss. 17:02, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello there,
My name is Marco, I'm the webmaster of Paul Polansky, an American author and poet (paulpolansky.net). I uploaded a couple of personal photos of Paul a couple of days ago on his wikipedia page and noticed today that it's been deleted. Also, reviews of his books have been deleted. Can you please help me out restore them? Please let me know what do I need to do because I spent a lot of time uploading the material. Many thanks in advance!
Puregoldxxxx ( talk) 17:56, 3 September 2011 (UTC)Marco
Hi there. As you already attended this article twice, I thought I'll contact you directly. Again, the same copyright material was introduced by an IP (fifth time). Other than removing the revisions, shouldn't the article be protected? Best regards. -- Muhandes ( talk) 08:10, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
I noticed at Se Ri Pak a remarkable overlap with this webpage, e.g. at "Pak also competed...". It looks as if some of it goes way back in the history, but it is not the result of a single edit, and there may even be some circular referencing going on via About.com. I wonder if you might unleash your copyvio superpowers to uncover the true tale? LeadSongDog come howl! 15:44, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Pak has also competed in a professional men's event, at the 2003 SBS Super Tournament on the Korean Tour. The Korean Tour is a feeder tour for the Asian Tour and does not offer world ranking points. She finished 10th in the event, becoming the first woman to make the cut in a professional men's tournament since Babe Zaharias did so in 1945.
Pak also competed in a men's professional event at the 2003 SBS Super Tournament on the Korean Tour. She finished 10th, becoming the first woman to make the cut in a professional men's event since Babe Didrickson Zaharias did so in 1945.
Like Sörenstam, Pak has also competed in a professional men's golf event, at the 2003 SBS Super Tournament on the Korean Tour. Unlike Sörenstam, however, she did make the cut and eventually finished 10th.
Hello Moonriddengirl! It's been a long time since we spoke, but I'm back, in good shape, and editing again.
There was one thing that came to my mind. There is a website called PopCrush for music reviews, etc., which, as I already spoke about with another editor, is not regarded as a reliable source, so, it will be remvoed from the article I was working on. However, after I added the refs, I noticed that on every review of every song from the album on this article, there was a section which played the whole song. I don't know what the case is with this and copyright stuff.
Yours,
-- &レア ( talk) 16:02, 4 September 2011 (UTC) (aka Theologiae)
Dear Moonriddengirl, Thank you for responding. I noticed that it was mentioned in the reason for my deletion i read again was that the author of my bio did not have proper permission from me and made mistakes concerning copyright issues. Well, as you can imagine, I wrote my own bio ( trying to save money after being told a ridiculous charge for someone else to write it - so I wrote it ) and everything in that bio is correct to the best of my knowledge. I would not lie for I don't have to. Without sounding boastful , my reputation as a musician and songwriter speaks for itself as far as my accomplishments that are again accurately mentioned in my bio. That doesn't mean people who are successful don't lie their faces off ! There is one discrepancy concerning my career and that is my name was not listed on a song I co-wrote with Rod Stewart and Carmine Appice called "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy". It was my first hit record. It took FOREVER to get my name listed as a co-writer on the song. One reason it FINALLY got listed was that when I sold my publishing company, their main "jewel" in my catalog was "Sexy". Half the publishing part of the catalog I sold was well over $500,000. THAT is why my name was finally on the song - it had to be or Full Keel Music would have given me much less. I also wrote Young Turks , Infatuation and Crazy 'Bout Her with Rod. I won a Grammy co-writing with Kim Carnes, Craig Krampf for the movie , Flashdance. I also wrote for Heart, Pat Benetar, with Michael Bolton , Eddie Money , played with Jimi Hendrix , Alice Cooper , Cactus, The Buddy Miles Express etc. If one looks at a lot of the people mentioned here and my bio, you will see my name all over the place. I will try to understand what I need to do for their seems to be a lot of paper work which if I have to do, so be it. I do have some other places that can be checked. I was invited to join the "Songwriter Institute" ( Nashville " of 12-14 songwriters that have written over 25 #1 records in the last three years. I would never had been invited if I where not what I said I was and for my reputation and success. My main site is Reverbnation, MySpace ( where you can hear my jamming with Jimi Hendrix ) and Facebook. By the way, the bio that you folks have looked at was supposed to be closed down a long time ago but I was surprised it was still up. I believe the guy I paid for 2 years a LONG time ago went broke and the site is still there ? Seem so someone would have to be paying a fee for being the web master ? At any rate, I am all over your your Encyclopedia with my accomplishments and sorry for the mess. I am really puzzled who ( artist, record co etc. complained about a claim or claims I made to report to you and have me deleted ? I DEFINITELY want to know who that is if possible. Thanks again for your response and again I will try to figure out how to respond to your request properly. I am not complaining but there seems to be a lot to do. Regards, Duane Hitchings <redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captainhit ( talk • contribs) 02:48, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
If I'm coming to Wikipedia, I EXPECT encyclopedic content, not abridged content. Dictionaries are abridged, encyclopedias should NOT be abridged for content. Ever. Else, it is no longer an encyclopedia. So, a list of 100, whether it's a list from one publisher, one government or the number of levels of odor of flatulence is irrelevant. The ENTIRE list is germane or NONE of the list should be used as a bait and switch for an abridged subject. Perhaps a note to the editing party suggesting a permission be obtained or it will be deleted would be a good policy? Rather than Wikipedia, the abridge encyclopedic source of abridgement? I'm REALLY big on copyright and patent rights, as an information security professional. I'm also REALLY big on INFORMATIVE SOURCES OF INFORMATION, not ABRIDGED. Abridged is worthless and we can eliminate 2/3 of the articles present in physics alone to abridge, rather than INFORM. Wzrd1 ( talk) 04:16, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
How to handle the following situation:
Does this mean the image is a copyvio and has to be deleted from commons?-- Sodabottle ( talk) 12:19, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Could you take a look and comment? It's a high-visibility article so editors are reasonably concerned that it's copyvio blanked. cheers. — Spaceman Spiff 16:13, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
MRG, can't quite see the relevance of the cartoon, and another problem is that the original page is "huge"—even on my 27" monitor it's hard to track through; but in the article, it's just a splotch of colour, unreadable at that size (even at the size I boosted it to). The "Handbook" pic is now so small it's not worth including. I don't mind if you remove it. Tony (talk) 13:25, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. This is the link you asked me [6]. I was wondering, would you say that [7] is usable?
Thank you,
Yours,
-- &レア ( talk) 18:21, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello MRG, I have a copyright/OTRS question for you. I asked to have some pictures released by Kinross Gold to be included in the articles (as pictures of gold mines are difficult to get by traditional methods based on location and security), and they have agreed to release 4, I currently have them in my email inbox, so I can upload them, but I am unfamiliar with how to show that they offered to release their copyright for use here. Can you assist? -- kelapstick( bainuu) 22:11, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Being neither American nor a politician, I encountered a series of content removal edits from a user claiming that "..the information is severe copy infringement by a banned user. I was given the OK to delete it by another admin." The whole exchange is here. Being a mere mortal I cannot test the assertion that the material deleted was indeed a copyvio or not . I have rolled back all the edits of FrittataOhio but there are now questions as to whether he/she was right and the edits that he/she made were genuine efforts to fix up earlier copy-vios. Help !. Velella Velella Talk 22:48, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
{{subst:cclean|url=whatever}}
would probably be the better choice. --
Moonriddengirl
(talk) 11:40, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Wow. I'm impressed. Don Lammers ( talk) 00:52, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
This edit summary was a little, erm, light on details. {{ umbox}} exists specificially for use messages like this. If you want a lighter background colour then it's trivial to add one. Must a mountain be made of this particular molehill? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 11:06, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
I semi-accidently found a copyright violation. [8] is the Terms of use. [9] is the copied article. No Modifications is specified, so the license is invalid here. Correct? I removed all the copied prose from the article. Is there any more steps I need to take. The IP who added the violation hasn't edited in one year. Thanks-- intelati talk 21:12, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
{{subst:cclean|url=http://www.contactpakistan.com/ExplorePakistan/Bela.html}}
on the talk page, and it'll do the rest. :) Thanks for finding and taking care of that! --
Moonriddengirl
(talk) 21:44, 7 September 2011 (UTC)The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
That would be why you are the only person I go to when I have a copyright question. intelati talk 21:53, 7 September 2011 (UTC) |
Since you are one of the copyright experts and your name popped in my head, can you comment on a copyright claim that was posted on my talk page? Sounds plausible, but makes me wonder a bit as when I checked a few Virginia-based candidates web pages, I found copyright notices. Thanks. -- Gogo Dodo ( talk) 06:41, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | ||
For patiently guiding me through copyright guidelines in your busy schedule and helping me correct my mess, which would have been very difficult hadn't it been for you. Thank you. Suraj T 13:04, 8 September 2011 (UTC) |
Hi.
I contact him and all, and at first he seemed more interested in knowing about me that in wikipedia, i answer his questions regarding my studies, my work, my travel interests always urging him to tell me exactly what he wanted help with.
He finally contact me in the talk page, he at first insisted on using e-mails, just to tell me that he is "compiling" work to do.
Anyway, i keep letting messages in his talk page but he hasn`t edited since August 25 and further checking his contributions he hasn`t made a single edit to an article, only to his user and user talk pages.
What do you think this means? Is he busy? Did he fool us? How long do i keep checking on him?
As always, thanks in advance. Zidane tribal ( talk) 04:25, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Can I upload these images? They are very old images of Ooty and it is a government website which makes no mention of any copyrights. Thanks. Suraj T 10:04, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
{{
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images, but the content is best posted to Commons and the questions addressed there as these images can be used by multiple wikis. e.g the cars in the picture would date that image to the 20s/30s and so on. cheers. —
Spaceman
Spiff 10:18, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Looking at the first couple, it seems that was the date they were taken. I'm not sure about the date they were published. Copyright laws are complex. :/ But that would be good to add to your question at MCQ, as it might help them determine the status. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:09, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that you have deleted a particular paragraph I put up on Social inequality. Since I am new to Wikipedia I am still not very familiar with it, and from now I will pay good attention towards copyright issues. I have a doubt, can I copy (even if it is just a line or two) from another Wikipedia article, if yes, what exactly is to be done? Thanx in advance! Nmkirpalani ( talk) 11:16, 9 September 2011 (UTC)nmkirpalani
Okay cool, thanks for addressing the doubt immediately. =) Nmkirpalani ( talk) 11:28, 9 September 2011 (UTC)nmkirpalani
Hello I understand why you deleted my edits on the article Wipro. I just wanted to ask you whether I can rewrite the same material in my own words and properly cite it this time. Thank you. Poojalh ( talk) 16:40, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. I am under the impression that you are either in charge of copyright issues or are at least an expert on them. I hope you don't mind me asking out of the blue, but can I remove a {{non-free}} template from an article if there appears to be nothing wrong with it? The template doesn't explicitly say that I can't remove but I am not sure. The template was placed with the rationale "I suspect with recent amendements that the Act is still copyright".
The article in question, Riot (Damages) Act 1886, relates to a statute which is an edict of government and is therefore in the public domain in the United States, whether amended or not, and regardless of its status anywhere else (according to the United States Copyright Office). This has been discussed at Wikisource, and, as far as I can see, they appear to be content to reprint the whole of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom that are, unlike this Act, certainly in copyright, in the United Kingdom, on the strength of this rule of law and the Crown Waiver / Open Government License.
It also appears to be in the public domain in the United Kingdom, as the effect of section 164(4) of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 appears to be that amending an Act does not create a new copyright in it.
The amendments in question themselves consist of the mechanistic and purely consequential substitution of one technical term of art for another due to a change in nomenclature (e.g. "police area" for "police district", "police fund" for "police rate" and "compensation authority" for "police authority"), and do not appear to me to contain any creative content at all.
I also think it could be justified as fair use anyway because the use of the unamended text would be misleading or at least very confusing because police districts etc don't exist anymore, and the text provides context for the explanation of the amendments etc.
I could go on, but I hope that I don't need to. What should I do? James500 ( talk) 23:53, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. James500 ( talk) 00:32, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey Moonridengirl, long time no talk. I have a copyright/plagerism question for you in regards to J. E. "Buster" Brown. I've read your 'essay' about copyright concerns but I'm still unsure about this situation. Much of the contents of the Brown article seems to be paraphrased from a University of Texas biography. It's not a copy/paste but much of the article still closely paraphrases this site. You've been my go-to person in the past on copyright issues, so I figured you'd be a good person to ask if this article really is good to go or if it strays across the line. Thanks for any help you can provide. -- TreyGeek ( talk) 04:18, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
I have decided to give you and Drmies talkbacks to your own page now, there seems to be a question from one of the few non-copvyios but close-paraphrasing issue on the outreach project in that section. — Spaceman Spiff 14:07, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
That essay is really excellent. Copyright concerns are usually difficult to write about it a way that's not so detailed as to be difficult to follow, yes not so general as to be inaccurate. Your essay is informative, persuasive, and just good reading. Thank you. – Quadell ( talk) 12:56, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi MRG, perhaps it's possible to encourage editors to balance a number of issues in determining whether plagiarism or close paraphrasing is occurring. I played with the box at WP:CANVASS, but these are just vague musings at the moment. The scenarios are meant to be the extreme ends on separate but related judgmental scales. Is the concept useful? Tony (talk) 12:41, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Length of wording in question | Closeness to the original | Distinctiveness of original wording or meaning | Attribution | |
Less of an issue | Short | Your own wording1 | Not distinctive | Fully attributed |
↕ | ↕ | ↕ | ↕ | |
More of an issue | Long | Exact wording duplicated | Distinctive | Not directly attributed |
1Excluding "non-creative" text.
Think this is close paraphrased enough (from here) to warrant deletion? There's no clean version... Calliopejen1 ( talk) 15:24, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello, Moonriddengirl! Your name was suggested by Crohnie ( talk · contribs) as an administrator who is familiar with copyright issues that could possibly assist in a situation that needs resolution. What happened was that an article up for FA ( Ted Bundy) attracted attention for some of the images in the article due to the FA process. These images were subsequently nominated for deletion on the Commons based on the belief that the Archives are not the true copyright holder and therefore have no right to license images that are not PD; and that nomination remains open and unresolved. But I'm really not sure why. In the past, an editor had contacted the State Archives of Florida in regards to all the images contained within that archive, and was told that attribution to the archives was the only requirement for their use. I very recently contacted the same State agency concerning only the images from their archives used in the Bundy article, and was informed that they are aware of no copyright issues, and that attribution was the only requirement. A professional author who had used an image from that archives in his for-profit book on Bundy has confirmed that only attribution to the State Archives of Florida was needed. The editor who nominated the images for deletion refused to withdraw the nomination unless proof that the State of Florida is the true and actual copyright holder is presented (so that it therefore has the right to do what they are already doing).
My position is this: twice now the State has confirmed that we may use the images just as long as we credit the "State Archives of Florida" (and we do). Is this not tantamount to a CC-by-SA license being explicitly given to us by them? Must an OTRS ticket be filed for each and every image from this archive... when they've said that not only can WP use them, but anyone can? The "template" that was used in the "Permission" sections of the images (created by Andy Dingley in 2008) has been challenged as well, and another deletion nomination concerning an image from the FBI's own website has also resulted from this article's failed FA nomination. Nothing's happening on the Commons, but if we had to go by consensus over there, these deletion nominations would be closed. Myself and several other editors who have put a lot of work into this article (not to mention others whose work involves using images from these State archives) would appreciate any input you could give us. Discussion on the Bundy images continues here, but we would like input on how to close the image deletion nominations as we firmly believe they have no valid basis. Thank you for your time! Doc talk 04:13, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
You've been very helpful to this editor [14], but I suspect the blocked contributor couldn't wait any longer [15]. Please correct me if you think otherwise. I've left a note for Drmies as well. Thanks, 99.184.129.216 ( talk) 15:52, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. In case you haven't seen, I thought I should bring to your attention Special:Contributions/Ilovemoonriddengirl. New account, only made 2 edits, both clear vandalism related to Pure Reason Revolution topics. Bondegezou ( talk) 14:44, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl, I wonder if you can offer some advice on how I can get help with copyright cleanup. I've spent the past month or so mopping up behind one class from the India Education Program, the students of which are extremely unclear on the fact that copyvios are not allowed here. Their campus ambassadors say they are working with them on the topic, but in the meantime, the copyvios keep rolling in. Do you know if there's any way to marshal some troops to systematically check the contributions from this class, and possibly from other IEP classes? I've made a start of a log at User:Fluffernutter/checks - it's incomplete, and doesn't even log a lot of the actions I've taken yet since I didn't start logging until yesterday, but if I could just get enough experienced users to check out all the students' contributions and annotate that list, I could at least get on top of things as they keep coming in. As it is, I'm running around frantically, hoping I don't miss anything huge. More warm bodies would be a wonderful thing... A fluffernutter is a sandwich! ( talk) 13:49, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
>:(
Reaper Eternal (
talk) 14:52, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
I wonder if it's necessary to try to systematically check all the classes' contribs the way we've (so, so wonderfully, you guys!) crowdsourced this one since yesterday. I'm torn between "it may be a waste of human capital" and "but if there are copyvios, it's so much more important to catch them NOW"...anyone have opinions on whether we need to do the whole set? A fluffernutter is a sandwich! ( talk) 15:55, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
In your Copious Free Time (tm), could you take a look at David Wallis Reeves and make sure I didn't paraphrase the sources too closely when I expanded the article? I don't think it's a problem, but I'd appreciate a cross-check if you have the time. Thanks.-- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:18, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Redacted comment by blocked sock account My76Strat ( talk) 22:39, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
This file is up for F5 however I think it may not be copyrightable as it only consists of typefaces, individual words, slogans, or simple geometric shapes., if so what needs to be done to the comments section to reflect. Mt king (edits) 22:50, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
I've now got my PhD thesis in and now have some time to be on wikipedia again. I've started working on understanding bots, with my current aim to be getting a bot for WP:CP working again. Not a problem if someone beats me to it as it will be a useful learning exercise regardless. Would you be so kind as to add User:dpmukBOT to the confirmed user group. Not sure if I'm going to run into any captchas or the like before making the bot autoconfirmed but it would be one less thing to worry about. Proof I created the account is here. Cheers. Dpmuk ( talk) 23:10, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi MrG. The so-called "vanished user" vandalising PASOK MP articles is back. Could you please semi as needed? Thank you. Dr.K. λogos πraxis 23:27, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, me again, again not sure how to proceed. This diff shows suspected copyvio material which has been removed from the article but left in the history. I don't have the book, so can't confirm or reject the suspicion (even if I find it hard to believe that a published work could be so poorly written). I have an idea, perhaps a wrong idea, that copyright matter is still considered visible even if it is not in the current version of the article. What, if anything, should be done here? Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 23:25, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi again Moonriddengirl. I know you have experience with OTRS. There's a rather complicated question Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions#How_can_a_journal_publisher_grant_permission_to_use_images_en_masse.3F about the academic journal GENE granting permission for its material to be used on Wikipedia. I'm not sure I follow the whole situation, or what license is being granted, or what articles and images are applicable... but I thought I'd bring it to your attention. Do you have an answer for them? Thanks, – Quadell ( talk) 18:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
hi i would just like to know why have u deleted my article on regional rural banks even though i paraphrased it. however i would really appreciate if u could just help me write a better article on regional rural banks since i am being marked on it. thanks mahima.chawla — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahima.chawla ( talk • contribs) 13 September 2011
Hi MRG, I've realised that the problem is rife, by doing a few spot-checks, just a half-sentence here and there, google searches. What's the best action to take when I find the whole lead, for example, has been copy-pasted in from a website? Like this one, which is worse than the dup. detector shows, probably because there's a scroller on the source website. I don't really want to spend the time fixing copyvios I see in gnoming. That's a greater investment in this field than I'm prepared to give; but I am willing to flag copyvios I see before my eyes. Really, every business/management book article needs systematic scrutiny.
From your experience, if the article starts with pasted-in text, is copyvio likely in the rest of the article? It would seem so to me, since the lead is where you'd expect the easiest paraphrasing would lie. Problem is, the article sections are usually where material is likely to have been copied straight out of the book itself, which is hard-copy only. A common problem. The article still contains not a single reference, even just general ones without ref tags.
There are an awful lot of these in management and business: there seems to have been a culture of this. Perhaps the editors need to be identified and quizzed about it? Thanks. Tony (talk) 11:23, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Identifying and Managing Project Risk, by Tom Kendrick, is a book about identifying and managing risks on projects. The book is geared to be used by a junior Project Manager and Kendrick aligns the chapters of the Book to the Project Management Institute's (PMI) Guide to the Project Management Body of Knowledge, (PMBOK) 2000 edition. This text is designed to be used as a supplemental source of information when studying for the Project Management Professional (PMP) certification exam.
It is a rather unusual situation but I mentioned you in the PROD for Cultural_Profile_of_South_Kosal yesterday and now feel that I should have notified you. Sorry for not doing so at the time & I hope that this does not cause any difficulties. - Sitush ( talk) 12:18, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi folks (MRG, TPS and others): Here's what I said I'd come up with a couple of days ago:
User:SpacemanSpiff/S3/IEP/FAQ. I've gone through the articles created and identified the most significant issues. I've put those problems in this FAQ/Cheatsheet. This ought to be required reading for any student before they start editing an article and the Ambassador/Course instructor ought to get their acknowledgement at the end of the page. The other part (which should really be a separate page) is a log of all the articles that these students edit, and they are required to fill it every time they make a course related edit. If that's done, the ambassador and/or other editors can spot check it and mark the problems within the table in the comments section. Once that's done, it's easy for the ambassador/instructor to work through the problems and also easier for the many many editors and admins who patrol these pages to take action. What say you? (I'm only placing {{
tb}}
for Hmundol and the ambassador who participated in the above discussion. Everyone else, I'm guessing, already watches this page. cheers. —
Spaceman
Spiff 20:54, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
{{
tb}}
. Your idea is superb, your FAQ does answer most of the questions students might need. We ll surely think upon this. One quick question, in your table who would be "Wikipedia Evaluator" ?
Rangilo Gujarati (
talk) 21:04, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey MRG, I'm sure your talk page is not the right forum to discus this, but perhaps you'll loan a fellow admin a clue:
John Duffey is on my watchlist and I just noticed Wikidemon removing a huge chunk of text as a copyivo. It's clear that it contains the same text as this allmusic article, but what I don't understand is that article is copyright 2011. You can see that the text was originally added to Wikipedia here in 2005. What do we do when someone copies Wikipedia text and asserts a copyright? Could that have happened here?
Disclaimer: I restored that content here in 2010, but the IP that originally added it was not me - I started editing as an IP in April/May 2007 and registered in May.
Thanks in advance. Toddst1 ( talk) 07:33, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
So, Maggie and you talkpage watchers may have noticed that a lot of the Indian editors coming out of the Global Education program are having problems understanding copyright. This is unsurprising; in Indian culture, copying is seen as the highest form of praise, in a sort of "this source is so good I cannot add anything to it, and furthermore consider it so perfect that I'm willing to associate my name with it" kind of way. This is really complimentary for the creator of the source text, but a bit problematic for Wikipedia, which could find itself in an awkward legal position if students or other editors go around posting copyrighted text - whatever their intentions.
As such, a group of users have had to go through, patrolling the work done by the Indian editors, and on quite a few occasions have had to block the editors for persistently not groking copyright. On a couple of occasions there have been unblocks due to assurances that the students now understand the issues, followed by additional violations and a new block This isn't a great situation; we end up with editors who are constantly overwhelmed with patrolling lots of new pages (and, understandably, get a bit irked) along with students who can't complete their course due to their blocks. We can't let them edit, because there are legal issues, but at the same time we can't let them not edit. As such, I've got a wee idea that Maggie, random talkpage watchers and the course ambassadors might want to consider.
What if we mandated that users in the Indian program, rather than experimenting around in mainspace, needed to create articles in their userspace, with a NOINDEX tag, which would then be checked by someone before being switched over to mainspace? The lack of mainspace and the presence of a NOINDEX tag would substantially reduce the legal concerns - people are very, very unlikely to see the pages - and would also mean that we can identify what specifically the students have added when checking for issues. Rather than having an article on PFI which the student contributed part of (which leads to having to muck around with diffs to work out what turned up where, when and was written by whom) we have a page which just consists of the student's contributions. A lot easier to check.
As to who should do the checking, we've got two options. Neither of them involve editors. What the program needs, what the students need and what the wiki needs are editors who are prepared to come in and deal with issues that arise with a friendly smile, a kind tone and a big helping of good faith, and this simply isn't going to happen if the only editors who care about shepherding the new users along are constantly overwhelmed with copyvios. The two actual options are that the pages are checked by students and that the pages are checked by ambassadors. In the former case, those students who do grok copyright would take on the responsibility of scanning drafted articles for problems; in the second, that role would b taken by the Campus Ambassadors. Personally, I think the onus needs to be on the Ambassadors; students didn't sign up to be tutoring and reviewing the classes, but the Ambassadors did. In addition, allowing the Ambassadors some healthy experience of recognising copyright violations and teaching people how to avoid them - without the pressure of editors shouting about it - would be really, really helpful. At the end of the year or semester, students leave, and new students come in. The Ambassadors remain constant. If we've got one group we can give some real experience dealing with these issues, it should be the ambassadors; otherwise, we'll just have to go through the same awkward process next year.
End result: we don't get sued, students can edit, editors don't get pressure and the ambassadors get some more experience teaching on avoiding copyright problems, which they can apply to future courses. Thoughts? Ironholds ( talk) 18:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey, as you are already aware about Wikipedia:Plagiarism conducted by few of the students in IEP, I am stuck at one place, please help me out on what can be done. There is an article Mahatma_Gandhi_National_Rural_Employment_Guarantee_Act now it is clear that this article has been copy pasted only from somewhere, one of the sites I tracked down is NREGA, but also since it is an ACT, do we need to rephrase it so that it does not violate copyrights ? or we keep it as it is. Rangilo Gujarati ( talk) 19:05, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
MRG, what's the policy on what appears to be the copying over of a succession of titles and subtitles from another document, not within quotations marks? I'm referring in particular to the lists of "principles" in The Toyota Way. I don't have access to the source, which is presumably Ref. 1, an internal company document, but it looks fishy to me.
This pattern often occurs in articles on books – articles I've been gnoming though in the fields of management and business. How much straight copying of structural elements is too much?
Thanks for your work in this complex area: I guess we need to be educated about these matters. Tony (talk) 06:46, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
MRG, we currently have 11 open CCIs relating to WP:India (and one that should be opened soon, I've put in the request) and many of them haven't been touched in ages. However, what's happening with many of these articles is that the copyvio becomes derivative text and more difficult to find out. And of course the age of these, e.g. Bugnot CCI we've had copyvio material from two years ago sitting happily around, curiously I got to know about the issue and created the CCI only when I was working on another CCI. These 11+1 CCIs and the one that was closed (Vrghs jacob) impact more than a 1000 articles (conservative estimate) and with untracked socks re-adding copyvios (I've blocked socks on three CCIs) it's getting more difficult. Could we do a drive to clear out these CCIs at least? If we get a few more seasoned hands to clear this up within a target date we might be able to do justice to the other stuff languishing in mainspace. Open to any ideas here. — Spaceman Spiff 20:02, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
{{
Copyvio}}
blanking that links to the CCI case with similar requirements as the current template would be an option. At the least, it'll get the high profile articles addressed. cheers. —
Spaceman
Spiff 06:30, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
{{
Copyvio-CCI}}
which blanks and links to the CCI rather than the copyvio board. At least to be used where the following criteria is met: CCI has been open for 60+ days, the content addition is over 20% of the current article or greater than 10KB (whichever is less). Any editor in good standing can then check it and remove if it's not a copyvio and we don't set a time limit for clean up like we do on the copyvio boards. A 100KB article would most likely be a high-visibility article (both for readers and mirrors and Icon/Alphascript books -- e.g. I've seen some of our copyvio material in a book available at Amazon.com that I bought inadvertantly and sent back for a full refund admonishing Amazon.com!), so if there's even 10KB of potential copyvio, it is more likely to be addressed than if it's just an entry on the CCI list. Likewise if it's a low priority article and you don't really get visitors to it, at the least the content is blanked until it gets fixed. —
Spaceman
Spiff 12:29, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
{{
Copyvio-CCI}}
which blanks the page and links to the CCI to clean it up. Step 3 - one of the CCI regulars clean up the article when they get to it. Steps 2 and 3 are only if no one follows through on Step 1. If one of the bots could be repurposed then we might be able to start this soon as it'll be just an additional task approval at BRFA, not a new bot. cheers. —
Spaceman
Spiff 16:39, 16 September 2011 (UTC)Can bots tell if a specific entry at CCI has been checked? IOW, are they able to blank only the ones that are still unevaluated? -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:57, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
In looking at S710's CCI, I have uncovered several direct translations from copyrighted sources in French. (Googling for proper nouns when a sentence seemed like a translation based on weird preposition choices/sentence structure.) Since it is going to be really hard to google to find these, since some of the content is sourced to offline books etc, and since the translation means that S710's bad english is not much of an indicator in terms of own work vs. not own work, I think the best approach would be to remove all substantive content contributed by this user. Thoughts? Calliopejen1 ( talk) 15:42, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Please take a look at Wikipedia Talk:Images#Synthetic images presented as existing images?. (Archived here) The discussion probably needs to be moved to Village Pump or someplace better, both in light of the effort to keep the talk page focused and to get some more opinions. Dankarl ( talk) 21:11, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Oh, I did save it. At the other page. :) (I was still waking up then. :D) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:45, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
http://www.gmts.co.uk/explore/history/history.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_public_transport_authorities_in_Manchester I am concerned about how much info is being sourced to this copyrighted website. I'm no expert in such matters but someone recommended I ask your opinion on this. thanks RafikiSykes ( talk) 03:00, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl. Would you revision delete the copyright violations Supergpzc ( talk · contribs) added to Tinkers (novel)? Thanks, Cunard ( talk) 18:47, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi MRG, I started expanding our article on The Shirelles, but I have noticed that User:MR. MOTOWN inserted a copyvio from Allmusic in this edit in 2006. Could you remove the revisions and Revdelete the versions with copyvio? (It looks like a mess, as there have been constructive edits since then. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 05:23, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
hello,
have you got any example letters that ask for permission to use a copyrighted text under public domain? I would like copy and paste the text from this site. Thank you.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ Hey it's me I am dynamite 10:47, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
i have edited the article Socio-economic issues in India and this time i have written it myself completely. i would be grateful if u could just review it before anybody else finds some mistake and deletes it. thank you Ds731992 ( talk) 10:35, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
I am extremely sorry for putting up my note right on the top. Anyways thanks a lot for reviewing the article and leaving some very useful tips. As per your suggestions i have re edited the article and made it more relevant in the indian sense. i also want to thank u for putting up the under construction tag. thanks alot! Ds731992 ( talk) 19:03, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
As you were the admin banning David r I thought I ought tell you that at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Johann Hari sockpuppetry I've raised the possibility that one of his socks is still operating almost- instinct 16:46, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey MRG. Could you tell where to find the template where you recommend and IP create an account? I think I've seen it before but I can't remember where. Jayy008 ( talk) 11:57, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your vote of confidence, which led to a beautiful barnstar appearing on my talk page today. I appreciate it. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 16:45, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Copyright violation. Revision Delete, please?-- intelati talk 03:36, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Could tell me please if it is free for anyone to just go ahead and "delete all substantive contributions from a user presumptively", if he or she thinks it apropriate, or are there certain procedures to be followed? If so what are they? thanks. S711 ( talk) 17:07, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Right after your post at Bahamut's talk page, TomStar81 gave a posthumous barnstar. Is there some way to elegantly include that in a prominent location on his userpage? I ask you since as a normal user I cannot edit his userpage, given it's being preserved in his memory. CycloneGU ( talk) 23:44, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
It's copied and the material is copyright, but the question is how much can we use and in how many articles. I've left this [19] at the moment, but deleted this [20]. Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 20:54, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi! Sorry to bother you, but I'm not sure of my way around meta, and I figured as this was your area of expertise you would be well worth checking in with. I'm having a bit of a discussion on Wikiversity about the existence of pages containing nothing but copyrighted text, but which seem to be claimed as ok under fair use. Ignoring various problems with that claim, if they are to be claimed under fair use, I presume they would need an exemption per the Foundation's licensing policy. But I'm not sure who to ask to confirm that they could be included under an exemption and/or if an exemption is required. Do you have a suggestion as to who to follow this up with? Thanks heaps. - Bilby ( talk) 01:31, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
I've recently stumbled upon this issue. It appears that copyvio material is being added at an alarming pace. From what I see on the talk page, the ambassadors are basically saying that nothing can be done because "this problem is unlikely to be limited to India. Many students, in US, will plagiarize, often, without knowing what they are doing is wrong." I see in your archive that the situation has been brought up in the past. I feel like 5-6 editors would need to contribute most of their time watching their course watchlists for changes and checking each for a copyvio. I don't even know where to take a discussion on addressing this issue. I've gone through the watchlist of two courses and already feel that the problem is quite large. I've gone through a list of ambassadors and see that in most cases, they're just as new to WP as the students. What do we do? I think the program's goals are great but so far, the problems are vast. OlYeller Talktome 18:25, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
I strongly agreed with your comments to Stephen Farmer. We have a similar situation with User_talk:Andrewlees who is a potentially valuable contributor but needs to be treated with kindness and courtesy rather than templates. Please can you sort it out? Kittybrewster ☎ 18:10, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello Moonriddengirl,
I'm the webmaster of Paul Polansky's website and wikipedia page. We exchanged an email few weeks ago but a medical emergency came and I had to have surgery and finally I'm back. Can you please tell me what do I need to do to remove the notices on Paul Polansky's wikipedia page? Thank you "very" much for your help and consideration, I really appreciate it. Best Regards, Marco — Preceding unsigned comment added by Puregoldxxxx ( talk • contribs) 10:50, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
{{multiple issues|BLP sources=September 2011|COI=September 2011}}
{{COI}}
{{Request edit}}
. Finally, you can leave a note at
the conflict of interest noticeboard explaining your situation and connection and asking if there are any lingering concerns.Hi Maggie. This morning I received this email from MediaWiki mail (wiki@mediawiki.org).
"Someone from the IP address 218.249.8.227 requested that we send you a new login password for the English Wikipedia.
The new password for the user account "Mathsci" is "<redacted>". You can now log in to Wikipedia using that password.
If someone else made this request, or if you have remembered your password and you no longer wish to change it, you may safely ignore this message. Your old/existing password will continue to work despite this new password being created for you.
~Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org"
How could such a request be made on wikipedia? IPs in China have been used in the past by Mikemikev to evade his various bans, so my guess is that this is more disruption from Mikemikev.
How can I stop this happening in the future? Thanks, Mathsci ( talk) 07:13, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again but I am having problems trying to improve Paul S Farmer. The response to my asking how I could remove the OR template was to re-gain another you had said I could remove earlier! I appreciate that this is all very trivial for someone as in demand as you, but any further guidance would be much appreciated.-- Paul Stephen Farmer ( talk) 11:32, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello MRG, I was very happy to endorse your request at WP:COIN and I've left a note at my Talk. Opbeith ( talk) 14:17, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Sadly I fear this article will have soon lost its point due to severe expectations of some editors. I am running to go backwards! -- Paul Stephen Farmer ( talk) 13:57, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi there. I appreciate you taking the time to offer your advice on that AFD, it certainly cleared the issue up in my mind. It's unfortunate (IMHO) that the current WP:NFC policies seem open to interpretation as it relates to those kind of articles. I'm concerned that had the AFD been for more popular pages then there might have been substantial opposition resulting in a Keep via consensus, despite the apparent copyright breach this would create. I'm guessing that there are a lot more instances of these kind of potential violations - I've recently made this edit to Guitarist to remove such a list which used the very article it was copied from as a citation. You say you've attempted to draw up policy revisions but haven't been able to get them off the ground. Would there be anything I could do to help? ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹ Speak 11:09, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
Can you have a look at the suspected copyvio on the above page ? I am not sure but it looks like other articles in the series may also be of concern, for example
America's Next Top Model, Cycle 16#Eric Daman looks to be taken from
here give the later has a longer summary. You advice on what to do next would be welcome.
Mt
king
(edits) 23:14, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
i have revised several sections of the cosmic ray-article. in addition, i have added several "citations for verification needed" and "inline citation needed" tags [21]. however, i suspect that some of the content constitutes a copyright concern. how should i proceed? should i add copyright-violation-tags as well? -- mustihussain ( talk) 14:37, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for stepping in, as I was worried this important article might be deleted. Pepso2 ( talk) 22:07, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
User:Kartikkaul1 expanded Harish-Chandra by copying a long section from a (copyrighted) web site, which I have removed, and a quick look at a few of his other contributions suggests that this is not an isolated problem. I don't plan to do anything further about this myself, but I thought I should let you know in case you are running out of copyright problems to deal with... r.e.b. ( talk) 01:44, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello again Moonriddengirl,
I followed your advice and provided the citations needed and replaced that note with COI. I also contacted User talk:Mtking but haven't gotten a reply. I read the wikipedia page of Paul Polansky thoroughly and I think it's fair a neutral. Also, there isn't a single citation from his own website. Can "you" please help me remove the tag? I would really appreciate it!
Puregoldxxxx ( talk) 18:08, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
It seems that other users also want to see the major WikiChevrons award on his userpage. Shall I put together a quick bit to replace the existing templated userbox? I think I'll put both awards inside the box, and the notice of preserving the userpage below it. CycloneGU ( talk) 02:12, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
I thought about condolences, but condolences are something that is usually given to those who love somebody who has passed on. :/ Do you have any idea what the military says when it offers posthumous awards? Maybe that would help. (Of the language you express above, I prefer "awarded posthumously", and I think it might work to start with something "A symbol of our great respect, awarded posthumously" or whatever we wind up with. I'm not seriously proposing the language "A symbol of our great respect" and don't really like it, but I like placing our admiration prior to the time of award.) Speaking of the time of the award, I think replacing the timestamp is a nice touch. Maybe we should hold this particular conversation at the Milhist talk page, though, since the award reflects the project? -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:21, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Honouring Bahamut0013 - discussion started, let's see what they think. Much of the discussion will probably occur there now, so let's both follow that page. CycloneGU ( talk) 15:51, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello again Moonriddengirl,
I followed your advice and provided the citations needed and replaced that note with COI. I also contacted User talk:Mtking but haven't gotten a reply. I read the wikipedia page of Paul Polansky thoroughly and I think it's fair a neutral. Also, there isn't a single citation from his own website. Can "you" please help me remove the tag? I would really appreciate it!
Puregoldxxxx ( talk) 18:13, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello there! I have an off-wiki copyright question that I'm hoping you can give me some general guidance with. Currently the site speeddemosarchive.com runs an official Youtube channel with over 3.5 million views, where it posts speedruns of video games as fair use. The site itself has held several charity speed running events which have raised over $100,000 dollars with the last 3 marathons alone. The question has come up on whether the SDA's Youtube channel could be used as well to raise money for charities. Youtube's policy states that these types of videos will not be allowed for monetization, but I believe they are using this word in place of commercialization which fair use is concerned with. If this is the case then I believe Youtube would allow the profits to be generated from SDA's channel if they went directly to a non-commercial organization such as a non-profit or charity. I haven't found a way to directly contact Youtube however, so I will checking out their user help forums, but I was wondering if you had some useful wisdom for approaching this. Thanks in advance for any help. AerobicFox ( talk) 20:02, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Why did you fully protect that page? You didn't even know what I'm going to do? You aren't the law here, this is an abuse of admin tools...Please consider un-protecting Tachfin ( talk) 13:25, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
"Thank you" for the removal of the article. I'm an hour bent, translated from Russian into English, added references. :-@ I do not understand why you do not delete the article Toccara Jones or Anchal Joseph? They generally seventh place. Or Cassandra Whitehead? Her place is ELEVENTH! KIRILL95 ( talk) 14:00, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Do you have admin privileges on Commons? I need an admin to delete a couple files that were released under GFDL. The agency that released them now says they misunderstood and thought they were releasing them to me only. They want them deleted from Wikipedia and Commons now. I can do the Wikipedia files, but I don't have admin rights on Commons. -- Moni3 ( talk) 17:11, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Can I get your opinion on this? Appreciate your time. -- Moni3 ( talk) 14:35, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello again Moonriddengirl,
I went to Mtking's talk page but it seems there's no way I can leave a message, his talk page is kind of locked with no options of leaving messages. Am I missing something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Puregoldxxxx ( talk • contribs) 18:24, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello again Moonriddengirl,
I forgot to sign my name, I'm really sorry. It seems that I can't leave a message for Mtking, there's no where I can do that on his talk page, it seems to be locked. Am I missing something?
Puregoldxxxx ( talk) 18:36, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello,
I have a copyright question for you ;). I have access to the orginal text of the constitutions of some countries in Arabic. Would it be a copyvio if i translate that text and put it into articles? (as in the constitution of the U.S article) or would this go to wikisource? thanks in advance. Tachfin ( talk) 09:52, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Moon. I'm sure you're busy but can you or someone you know take a look at this article and see if you think it's a copyright violation? I'd like to see what someone else thinks. I think it's somewhat ambiguous and as it's for a Mills College grad student's work, I'd really like to get a few opinions before I nominate it for deletion. I can take it to WP:CP if you're busy. OlYeller Talktome 18:50, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm so sorry, it's me again. Editor M.casanova has posted a large number of direct quotes from the Artgate website of the Fondazione Cariplo, claiming that the material is available under (CC BY-SA 3.0) licence. My guess is that the editor is perhaps connected with the museum or the site. However, some (or all?) of the Artgate pages, such as this one carry a clear copyright notice at the foot of the page, and would thus appear to be specifically excluded from the general release statement here. Once again, I have no idea what action, if any, is needed. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 11:00, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
One more question about the CCI. I hope you don't mind. I saw that the "important notice" remains on the board. I would like to ask you if you would reconsider this extrem measure and remove that notice. It seems to imply very drastic action, that is not necessary in my humble opinion. S711 ( talk) 17:05, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I m a wiki user.There is an article on pakistani artist on "Imran Channa" which is being tagged for deletion and copy-violent which is done by one shared IP ( 182.185.234.113)( 182.185.219.2) ( 182.185.128.145) constantly for few days. i want help from the administration for the protection of the page.. Thank u...-- Artmartxx ( talk) 18:24, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Thank u very much for protect the page Imran Channa..-- Artmartxx ( talk) 11:51, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi MRG, I'm confused as to where I should go for this so I guess I will go to you. User:Krugkris has inserted File:Ebony Bones!.jpg, which is of highly suspect copyright status (Krugkris has already received a warning about inserting copyrighted content), to replace the formerly used image File:Ebony Bones-01.jpg. After I reverted them, they undid my revision and posted on my wall that the old image was not of her. I reverted their revert due to the copyright suspicions I have, then they replied stating that they were from her label. I have since removed both images to avoid copyright issues and misrepresentation of the subject. Could you perhaps discuss the copyright issues with Krugkris and point me to where I could discuss the possible misrepresentation issues, if a seeming Single Purpose Account is worth listening to. Thanks. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 08:11, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Okay. I've taken a couple of steps. In addition to the deletion debate (as these can last forever on Commons), both images are now tagged {{ npd}} because we need verification of license. I have replaced the image in the article with one that is unquestionably free of copyright concerns and unquestionably the subject. It is referenced on Kris Krug's own website. And I have told User:Krugkris that he must verify his identity before he edits or uploads further. If he uploads or edits further without verifying identity first, I will block him for impersonation (in accordance with WP:USERNAME. I do not know if this is actually Kris Krug - it may be - but we can't assume it is. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:46, 29 September 2011 (UTC)