You hear [tãpɛt] or [tãpaɪ̯t] ? 198.105.97.92 ( talk) 22:30, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Yes, that is a Quebec accent. The word fête is pronounced "fight" in Quebec French. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te69JK28DDo 198.105.97.92 ( talk) 00:50, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
In this
edit of double bond you commented "<!--Use −, not –, for a schematic single bond-->
". Do you have a source for this, or did you make it up? —
Anomalocaris (
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05:18, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [ivɛːʁ] or [ivaɛ̯ʁ] ? 198.105.114.83 ( talk) 17:51, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [ivæːʁ] ? 198.105.114.83 ( talk) 19:40, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [tɒːʁ] or [tɑɔ̯ʁ] ? 198.105.114.83 ( talk) 20:34, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello Administrator Kwamikagami,
I happen to see your revert/undo on my edit ( http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Kwoma_language&oldid=562795842&diff=prev). I certainly respect your decision; I am not clear as to why it was deleted, if you could please explain that to me. Thanks. -- JustBerry ( talk) 06:53, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [kɛːs] or [kaɪ̯s] ? 198.105.121.124 ( talk) 13:02, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwami!
Due to a recent revert on Mongolian language that I made, Orgio89 has made the following edit on my talk page:
The text reads in translation:
The crucial last sentence can be glossed as follows:
While I don't think that this threat is concrete or that this user could identify me, this is the first threat of violence that I have experienced on Wikipedia. As I am fairly sure that Orgio89 wouldn't be impressed by any form of polite answer (in contrast maybe to Ancientsteppe where a similar angry argument without threat started on my talk page, but became somewhat more peaceful in the course), maybe some kind of administrative intervention / block would be appropriate. I don't know which of the many noticeboards is applicable here, so I am pasting this to your talkpage. You may forward it to some other place if you see it fit to do so. Best, G Purevdorj ( talk) 14:17, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [bʁɚ̃] or [bʀɚ̃] ? 198.105.121.124 ( talk) 18:58, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
As a linguist, you might wish to chime in either here or on the related talk pages. It might help diffuse the situation. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 06:39, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [lezɑːχ] or [lezɒːχ] ? 198.105.97.122 ( talk) 15:41, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [ˈtɛmpɪst] or [ˈtɛmpɛst] ? 198.105.97.122 ( talk) 18:29, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
[ˈtɛmpɛst] is a wrong pronunciation ? 198.105.97.122 ( talk) 23:10, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
We now have several citations that civil unions for same sex couples was passed yesterday, July 4th, in Colima, Mexico. Nothing has been adjusted. What is your opinion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glenrhart ( talk • contribs) 19:49, 5 July 2013
You seem to have lost the Coquille Tribe in Oregon in the latest version. Also, you seem to have filled in Lake Ladoga, in Russia, near the Finnish border. 80.61.230.65 ( talk) 13:45, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Can the word bacon be pronounced /ˈbeɪkɒn/ ? 198.105.105.117 ( talk) 13:24, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
So, can the word ticket be pronounced /ˈtɪkɛt/ ? 198.105.117.248 ( talk) 19:46, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Why cannot I edit something that i am certain about ? and moreover the picture attached with the Khariboli region also clearly shows that Khari Boli is indeed spoken in Nepal, then why do you need to revert my edits ?
What if I am certain about something but don't know about references, can such details be put on pages ? In case of Khari boli, i am certain about it because Khari boli happens to be my mothertongue and i have visited the regions in Nepal where the language was infact spoken by the rurals there.
In this
edit of double bond you commented "<!--Use −, not –, for a schematic single bond-->
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Anomalocaris (
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05:18, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Can the word potato be pronounced /poʊˈteɪtoʊ/ ? 198.105.98.58 ( talk) 07:56, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [tɛːt] or [taɪ̯t] ? 198.105.98.58 ( talk) 21:55, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Where's the consensus? Ignoring matters of policy, focusing on other editors, and appealing to conspiracies don't make for consensus - just the opposite. Please address the policy issues. Thanks! -- Ronz ( talk) 19:59, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Can the word welcome be pronounced /ˈwɛlkʌm/ ? 198.105.98.28 ( talk) 08:06, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
/ˈwɛlkəm/ and /ˈwɛlkʌm/ are not very different. I think /ˈwɛlkʌm/ is acceptable. 198.105.98.28 ( talk) 17:42, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [pœtaɪ̯tχ] or [pœtaɪ̯tʀ] ? 198.105.98.28 ( talk) 14:27, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello Hello, I am very impressed by the cartography that you realize. I would like to be able to collaborate with you, specially in the maps of the laws on homosexuality and the maps that treat political and economic topics. Thank you very much.kike
Thank you for answering. I am a geographer and I would like to realize an investigation on the legal evolution of the homosexuality from at least the second world war and to analyze the results — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.26.180.111 ( talk) 13:39, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Are there American people pronounce /ˈmʌfɪn/ for the word muffin ? 198.105.98.28 ( talk) 16:39, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
American people pronounce generally /ˈmʌfən/, right ? 198.105.98.28 ( talk) 17:22, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [væːʁ] or [vaɛ̯ʁ] ? 198.105.98.28 ( talk) 17:47, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Are there some errors in the page Vietnamese phonology ? 198.105.98.28 ( talk) 18:41, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that you moved this to Arab sign-language family which makes it inconsistent with the other articles such as French Sign Language family, German Sign Language family and Japanese Sign Language family. I would like to see it moved back. Naraht ( talk) 02:22, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
I think /ˈtɪkɛt/ is not a wrong pronunciation. 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 18:48, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
It's pronounced /ˈtɪkɛt/ in Welsh English. 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 20:32, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Can the word coconut /ˈkoʊkoʊnʌt/ ? 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 22:24, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
So, the word opinion can be pronounced /oʊˈpɪnjən/ ? 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 22:30, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Actress can be pronounced /ˈæktrεs/ ? 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 22:45, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
But I think the word message can't be pronounced /'mεseɪdʒ/, right ? 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 22:56, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Effect can be pronounced /ɛˈfɛkt/ ? 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 01:37, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [ˈsadnɪs] or [ˈsadnɛs] ? 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 15:29, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
In American English, the word province is pronounced /ˈprɑvɪns/ or /ˈprɑvəns/ ? 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 23:00, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Is there someone pronounces /ˈkwaɪɛt/ ? 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 15:40, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Hey update your gay marriage image of the world map, it is now 100% legal in Britain the Queen just signed it into law today. RobColtsFan ( talk) 15:43, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/07/17/britain-legalizes-gay-marriage/2524273/
Hi kwami, could you please at least submit admin move requests for what you undid? Thanks, very much appreciated. — Stevey7788 ( talk) 04:37, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Been looking at the Same-sex marriage map, and I saw you added the "almost legal" light blue countries. About Australia: you've got New South Wales, Victoria and Tasmania light blue, but what about the Austrian Capital Territory, which is in the middle of New South Wales? Shouldn't that be a dot (like Washington, D.C. or the native American tribes in the US), whether it is light blue or grey? 80.61.230.65 ( talk) 19:36, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Napkin is never pronounced /ˈnæpkən/, isn't it ? 198.105.100.253 ( talk) 01:53, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
I suggest you use a talk page on one of those articles to explain your actions than revert-warring with others. You may have a case for wanting to make Mi'kmaq a disambiguation page, but there is also good reason to move Mi'kmaq people to the primary topic name Mi'kmaq. This may be potentially controversial, so please discuss it on a talk page. ~ Amatulić ( talk) 03:56, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi there. I would very much appreciate it if you could spend ~2 minutes and take a short survey - a project trying to understand why the most active Wikipedia contributors (such as yourself) may reduce their activity, or retire. I sent you an email with details, if you did not get it please send me a wikiemail, so that I can send you an email with the survey questions. I would very much appreciate your cooperation, as you are among the most active Wikipedia editors who show a pattern of reduced activity, and thus your response would be extremely valuable. Thanks! -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:53, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Do you hear the word fight here ? 198.105.100.253 ( talk) 00:50, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
You think it's [tãpaɪ̯t], [tãpəɪ̯t] or [tãpɐɪ̯t] ? 198.105.100.253 ( talk) 14:40, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Dear K,
I just wanted to express my disappointment about your revert. I really think that this table should be there, because it shows very clearly the situation, and the countries are geographically so it helps people to see things clearly.
Best wishes, M — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martina Moreau ( talk • contribs) 01:06, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Accept is pronounced /ækˈsɛpt/ or /əkˈsɛpt/ ? 198.105.114.217 ( talk) 01:15, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello. Any idea if Luri is considered part of the Persian language? According to the Wikipedia article, it isn't and I haven't found a single source that considers it a Persian language. Would it be acceptable to conflate all Luri speakers and Persian language speakers here List of countries by Persian-speaking population. Iraq has 405,000 Persian language speakers and 99,000 "Luri, Northern" speakers, is conflating both Luri and Persian accurate? Chitooribah ( talk) 13:52, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
I see you have updated the speaker numbers for Ojibwe with e17 reference in the language infobox, but Ethnologue 17 reference lists only ojg, ojc and ojs, missing ojb, ojw, ciw, otw and alq in the count. I can't figure out how to correct this transduction. Please fix and adjust the number to 88260. Meanwhile, in the body, I will adjust the numbers there. Miigwech. CJLippert ( talk) 01:09, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Kwami, could you please move Admiral of the Fleet (Royal Navy) to Admiral of the fleet (Royal Navy) over the redirect? WP:MILTERMS refers. Thanks in advance. Shem ( talk) 20:40, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Please specify your <ref>Linguist List</ref> (exact website). -- Frze ( talk) 18:11, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Please do not move a page to a title that is harder to follow, or move it unilaterally against
naming conventions or
consensus, as you did to
Wuikinuxv people. This includes making page moves while a discussion remains under way. We have some
guidelines to help with deciding what title is best for a subject. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the
test Wikipedia. Thank you. -
Uyvsdi (
talk)Uyvsdi
Please do not add
original research or
novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to
Template:World homosexuality laws map. Please cite a
reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Your edit summary was: "actually wrong: SSM is performed in Mexico." Marriages are not performed in those states in cyan colour. That colour also includes countries like Israel.
Cavann (
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19:32, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwami. I'm planning on expanding Tampuon language using Crowley's phonology and a few other sources. I noticed you started the article with:
I'm curious as to why you included the part about Lamam in the Tampuon article. I've always been under the impression that "Lamam" is a dialect of Kaco' as spoken in adjacent areas of Viet Nam (Kaco' being the dialect spoken in Cambodia), that is to say, Kaco'/Lamam is distinct from, albeit closely related to Tampuon. Ethnologue seems to support this. Is it possible that the bit about Lamam in the Tampuon article was accidental, maybe from a quick copy and paste to start the article? Also the infobox for Tampuon includes the code "lmm" but, again, that link says it is associated with Kaco', not Tampuon. Was this just an oversight, or am I missing something?-- William Thweatt Talk Contribs 04:52, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Saraiki is a language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.186.107.201 ( talk) 05:41, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Dear Saraiki is language. see http://globalrecordings.net/en/language/20019 i have got consensus. 182.186.107.201 ( talk) 06:00, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami. Double check when you add |ref=e17 to the language infobox that a Reflist is present in the Reference section. Best, Sam 🎤 16:53, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
I wrote in the lead for Elamite language that it is considered a language isolate. A "fringe believer" changed this to: " Classification of Elamite is disputed, it is sometimes considered a language isolate, although classification as Afroasiatic has been considered.[1] " From what I understand that 'dispute' is perhaps 10,000 to one ?? This guy can put that somewhere down in the article but re-worded, I don't think this should go in the lead, but the vast majority opinion, correct? Thanks! HammerFilmFan ( talk) 15:14, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
You hear [sʊŋ], [soŋ] or [sɔŋ] ? 198.105.124.127 ( talk) 13:33, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Is Lungalunga a Patpatar–Tolai language or is it not? Like Kahuroa on Talk:Polynesian languages#Components, I don't put much stock in ABVD's classification ... -- Florian Blaschke ( talk) 17:07, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Kwamikagami, I've reinstated the edit I made about the International Phonetic Alphabet having symbols not letters. The official IPA chart [1] and the Introduction to the Handbook of the International Phonetic Association refer to the 'characters' as symbols [2]. No phonetician calls them letters, because they are symbols, like chemists' use of Au for gold or Fe for iron, a shorthand designation for a physical object which exhibits a constellation of (in this case: phonetic) properties. I hope you'll take a look at the IPA materials and retain the edit. Teaching my students the difference is hard enough without them being misinformed by Wikipedia. MarkJJones ( talk) 07:35, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
When you say "you" in your reply, do you mean the International Phonetic Association, because that's the body I'm citing. I reiterate my point: no chemist would not call Fe "chemical letters", they would call Fe a chemical symbol. It's exactly the same for phoneticians. I can't help what laypeople do (your "everyone"), but as an expert body, the IPA in its publications never ever ever ever refers to the "IPA letters". The article should reflect expert usage, and not what non-experts have come to accept as a possible label. The worst aspect of using "letter" is that it confuses speech and writing, and for that reason alone - barring the techncal non-usage - it should be avoided. MarkJJones ( talk) 09:43, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
All those large shogi variants – have you actually played them? (I've personally never actually thought deeply about anything larger than tenjiku. Perhaps I should!) Double sharp ( talk) 15:19, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
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User talk:Kwamikagami/old" is a new subpage of this talk page.
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Wavelength (
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15:04, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami,
someone just asked me to please send my dissertation to read since the following page says that I published in 2011 already.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C7%82%E2%80%99Amkoe_language
This is total non-sense as is most of the stuff written on the page, that is most things on the page are scientifically simply wrong. I don't know who put me into the references, but if you are able to, please remove all my references as well as the reference Gerlach & Berthold from the list since these papers/presentations do not support anything written on my page.
Thanks!
Sincerely,
Linda Gerlach — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moromisicka ( talk • contribs) 12:24, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami,
thanks for your reply.
No, it was definitely not my dissertation, since I am currently still writing it. There are several problems with this article: first, it includes links to presentations held at a University quite a long time ago which are thus not up to date and which should actually not be public. I already asked the University to remove them.
Second, a lot of the stuff on the page is simply copied from these presentations without reference which is totally against scientific practice! Third, there are a lot of errors in the article in general which clearly show, that the author/authors do not know what they are writing about and I don't want to be cited on such a page. If all errors are corrected I have no problem being cited, but then please cite published materials and not power point presentations!
I hope this was constructive enough and you understand the problems.
Sincerely, L. Gerlach — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.94.96.198 ( talk) 12:31, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
I was wondering what the Linguist opinion is on the known pronunciation of "Old Babylonian" would have been in the days of the Chaldean-dynast revived New Babylonian Empire; Nabonidas's obsession with the ancient past might have resulted in him gathering scribes/scholars of his day to determine the spoken language? Surely the priest-scholars-scribes would have been able to see that old cuneiform texts were different in language "structure" than modern Babylonian - like Olde English versus 18th century English - and wondered? I realize this is a question that is loaded with assumptions, but I am curious to when the dearth of pronunciation of the original language was "lost" due to decline/invasions/etc.
Thanks, Hammer (aka Brian) HammerFilmFan ( talk) 17:37, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
I don't mind your revert that much, but it doesn't make sense to me. Isn't the very definition of a classic disfix when you remove a prefix and replace it with a null prefix? (Please respond on my talkpage.) Thanks! -- Μετάknowledge discuss/ deeds 21:09, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Hey, saw the revert for the map in Andamanese Languages. I had posted a schematic version that provided some more context with today's landmarks (GT Road, cities). I also felt the original map is of too low resolution (say for printing for discussion in class).
Don't think it makes sense to have both maps on the page. So is there anything else you would recommend that would make this an improvement from the current map? I would be happy to make the changes.
Rasagy ( talk) 05:55, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
According to Unruh & Kalisch there are six languages: Angaité, Guaná (note the acute), Enlhet (Lengua norte), Enxet (Lengua sur), Sanapaná, Toba-maskoy/Toba-enenlhet [2]. Angaité is apparently considered a Sanapaná dialect in Ethnologue; Enlhet and Enxet are counted as one Lengua language. Ethnologue's data seems to be outdated but even if we cling to it as more authoritative it won't hurt to mention the alternative classification in the corresponding articles. And finally, Toba-Maskoy is a better name for a language than just Maskoy/Mascoy, which is ambiguous.-- Adnyre ( talk) 10:51, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
May I know why have you reverted the changes I made to the article called Hindi? First of all I want to mention that the entire article has been written with prejudice in mind, and the neutrality of the article is questionable too. Article does not respect the census data provided by the Government of India instead it relies on some unverified ethnologue at the same time it tries to separate various Hindi dialect from it just for the sake of reducing the number of native speakers, why haven’t you done anything with regards to this very aspect of this article. If you want I can give you data but the way you have reverted it without discussing it is shows your arrogant and pathetic attitude. Quality of this article is also extremely poor. I want you to do some research and correct the facts. Dinesh smita ( talk) 14:21, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami,
Can you please provide an explanation for Na-Dene and Yeniseian language families to be grouped together. It is not yet a widely accepted language family and the article on Dené–Yeniseian languages states so. If this family is accepted widely, then the article should reflect the change. I am just a beginner in wikipedia and no linguist, so I really do not know whether the grouping is correct or not. For people with no prior knowledge about this, it would be a favour if you could modify the article Dené–Yeniseian languages accordingly with references supporting that it is a widely accepted family. Otherwise, it doesnt do justice to group them together only in the template and let the main article take a contradictory stand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gurumoorthy Poochandhai ( talk • contribs) 21:06, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Your AWB edits change the capitalisation of "The Gambia" to "the Gambia". However, sources such as the factbook and the BBC capitalise The, as does their official website and statehouse website. Is this something that AWB can be adjusted to counter for? CMD ( talk) 13:46, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Please, please do update everything that no longer applies. Or add "formerly". But I would certainly cite information from 1913 for Welsh, English, or any other language worldwide if it demonstrated the nature and character of the language. Surely the criterion is not the date at which the source was produced, but the accuracy of the data. In any case, shouldn't we make use of 100-year-old information to illustrate linguistic history? Shouldn't we grasp at that rather than - AS IS THE CASE WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE LANGUAGES OF AFRICA - having no information (apart from classification) at all? — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.A.Biddulph ( talk • contribs) 08:07, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I still can't understand why information 100 years old is NECESSARILY outdated, to the point of being MISINFORMATION! I have been an amateur student of the African linguistica for about 35 years now, living with the constant frustration of not being able to find information, old or new, on most of the African languages - or even clear definitions of which language is which. If Wikipedia insists on such narrow criteria as I try to share what little I have got, then Wikipedia is obviously unfit for the task of describing the African linguistica - as any Africanist may agree, this continues an existing bias against these languages, a continuing obscurity which an insistence on only current material is bound to make even worse. The vocabularies are added for the express purpose of helping to identify which language is which - no good talking about current spelling or orthographical conventions if they either do not exist, or have got little beyond the decisions of an academic conference. And when I find current practice corresponds to IPA suggestions from such as Daniel Jones over 100 years ago, I am emboldened to try and make some use of material that old.
On the subject of language identification, I have been trying VERY HARD to fit information into the Stubs, etc. already provided - often a matter of uncertainty and difficulty, given the fact that no two sources, old or new, will describe the same language or variety even by the same name! I have to add that I do not agree with current classifications, as too generic by far, even where individual languages are accurately placed. I took particular exception to the Cambridge University Press LANGUAGES OF AFRICA 2000, because of its high-and-mighty academic-led approach, offering us irrefutable categories to which we must accede in spite of evidence, or even in default of any. This sort of thing may be Wikipedia-friendly, but I thought the idea of the exercise was to set down objective truth objectively as nearly as we can. I do not think, from my experience in other branches of linguistics, that languages, even purely oral media, undergo change as rapidly as to invalidate an observation make 3 and a half generations ago - especially if that observation is in fact the only one we've got. The stuff on language classification of course of that period is utter rot - but I have a feeling that the categories of 2000 may prove to be just so in a few years' time. The fixed element, if you like, is that if you ask for maji somebody might bring you a drink of water, whether that language is now called Negro-African or Bantu or whatever. The languages of my own country - Welsh and English - are dear to me, and a part of my identity. The fact that somebody has classified them both as Indo-European is, if you like, incidental. So why should African media be denied a similar identity?? Why shouldn't the speaker of such a language find it in Wikipedia and say, "Yes, that's my language - or pretty near it! I'm glad somebody at least has acknowledged its existence!"
Sorry to go on at such length - but I really feel that unless you can find something better (and I invite the scholars of the world to do so) it would be a bad idea to rub out what little there is. Add caveats if you will - but please don't shrink every people's language down to a Guthrie list classification. And please don't judge the accuracy of information by the date it has on it! This approach is unscholastic and restrictive in the extreme - and often does a disservice to those who spent long years in the country where the relevant language was used, and sat in their lonely house (like Captain Abraham with his typewriter with the missing dot over the i, used to describe both Yoruba and Idoma) trying to share it all with the rest of the world. Greggs in the 1970s saw fit to reprint a lot of this sort of stuff (and went bust in the process) because they realised that without it there would be a perfect and absolute blank. The people at Hippocrene Books in New York valiantly try to do the same (how they finance it all, I do not know)- look at the vintage of some of their current titles! Indian publishing houses are turning out volumes produced by somebody with a European name in the colonial period - because otherwise there would be nothing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.A.Biddulph ( talk • contribs) 15:13, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
If "all scholars" accept the classification "Afro-Asiatic" then it is an untruth, if I myself reject it, even though I work for no academic institution. The alternative suggestion is that I am not a "scholar". I change no classifications as given - but if I sincerely think they are WRONG??? No doubt Wikipedia prefers "all scholars" to my incompetent amateur fumblings. Knowing how strongly I feel about giving parity to the African linguistica, and the frustration offered by your condemnation of my material, good or bad, perhaps I should take advice and desist, with the invitation that perhaps "all scholars" should come forward, and fill all the gaps and Stubs with really useful material newly-minted. Meanwhile I shall amateurishly fumble at Africanlanguagesinformation@gmail.com where I shall continue to endeavour to offer to my contacts what I can. I'm perfectly sure you could get hold of THE BANTU LANGUAGES OF AFRICA from 1959 and ATTEMPT to re-visit every item in it in view of all the very latest unquestioned and unquestioning scholastic fads and fancies - but would that tell us any more truth about the speeches and media of my brothers and sisters in Africa? Would your rubbishing of the information make it any less true, where it does prove to be accurate? I was alive in 1959 - I suppose those who spoke the various languages in 1959 may in some cases still be alive. Even if the language they spoke is otherwise dead, it is conceivable that somebody may want to know that it existed, or even that it was believed to have existed, but erroneously.
And I'm glad TIGRE seems so well-documented - perhaps you could suggest a few titles for my bookshelf? Strange that none of the people with all the latest have failed to offer any sort of information on Tigre to Wikipedia readers? I have always wanted them to do just that! Just thought a fumbling amateur (putatively "non-scholar") might fill up the space a bit meanwhile, since I find such rubbish written on the Ethiopian languages. I thought the "Edit" button was that so these experts could quietly cross out my mistakes and put them right.
But please do not expect me to cease complaining if the reputable institution that Wikipedia is seeking to become continues to FAIL to treat African languages as fully and as intelligently as it treats other languages ancient and modern - I really think that the deficit at present amounts to an intellectual scandal. Sorry if this is unscholastic - perhaps you could canvass the views of the dozen or so Africanists in the world and get a PROPER opinion from proper scholars included in that elusive "all"?? I presume that since ordinary chumps like me are excluded from the category, such an exercise wouldn't take long. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.23.248.121 ( talk) 19:50, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
User:Double sharp/Consonants – since reading your very old tips at Talk:Alveolar trill (which BTW are not working yet, but we'll see in a few months!!!), I was wondering if you had any general tips on how to get rid of the grey areas there... Double sharp ( talk) 14:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Greetings! Since my issues brought up at Talk:Kotava have not been addressed, I have decided to start a deletion discussion on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kotava (3rd nomination). Your input will be greatly appreciated. Best, — IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu? 21:35, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I am adding content on the grammar of constructed languages. I looked through the archive of the na'vi language page, and found that It was moved because quote "The reason is as stated above, since most of this material is original, unsourced, or some combination". I found sources (which I considered reliable) and put inline citations. This is all material which I wrote. I will remind you that this is a)an overview, not a complete descripton and b)AFD the page if you want to delete it reH ghun ghunwI' 03:59, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for cleaning up the [West Bomberai languages] page. One question though: the term "family-level isolate" as used in Ethnologue is potentially misleading. It is certainly not the same as a language "isolate". And the use of this concept can lead to some odd classifications. For example, in a family without any subgroup structure, all the members languages would be "family-level isolates". At the very least shouldn't Karas be listed as "family-level isolate"? Or would it be even better to drop the term altogether? Gholton ( talk) 02:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Please comment here. Thanks. georgianJORJADZE 00:21, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
There's a difference between Kedayan and Bruneian Malay as you can see here ( [3] [4]). And you should read all these books ( [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]) to see there's a difference between Bruneian Malay and Kedayan. Even though this two race have a similarity, they still have a difference both in culture and language! Plus you should not just labelled it as a "nationality".— иz нίpнόp ʜᴇʟᴘ! 10:30, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
http://postimg.org/image/rs5cg9bbh/034366e6/ HammerFilmFan ( talk) 03:10, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Howdy. I have a couple of questions for you.
Personally, I think we should go with what is in the reference (assuming it is reliable) rather than round it.-- Rockfang ( talk) 07:45, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello Kwami
You edited the article >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people
and wrote the source does not address the paragraph, but it actually did exactly this. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/325225/Kurdish-language
The source is about the Kurdish language. And if the reason is that we only use sources for linguistic, than why does that need to be specifically Mackenzie's classification?
Anyway just asking not that it is essential to change it back.
regards Wikisupporting ( talk) 09:06, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
kwami ( talk), off course I provide source in all my articles. However, using words like bad math and silliness belongs to rude people and not professionals. Using provocative words is not only stupid but uncivilized. Bad math means my calculations are wrong, but to the contrally, all you should have done is cite significant figures as you have done. Anyway, this is insignificant, our defense for your Ngangela that it is not being a language but a tool to erase Mbunda is what matters, and that is where it pains you most. I hate sarcastic people. Ndandulalibingi ( talk) 12:43, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks that you have now used the right method for significant figures. However, I do not agree with you for denying the Ngangela issue because on 27th October 2011 at 20.39, you created a page claiming that Ngangela is a language. You went further to claim that Ngangela is also called Nyemba. As it has so far been established, Ngangela is an Umbundu describing the people of the east, or Ngangela is a generic term for peoples east of the Central Highlands, ref: José Redinha, Etnias e culturas de Angola, Luanda: Instituto de Investigalção Científica de Angola, 1975 and it has a slightly derogatory meaning when applied by the western ethnic groups, ref: Alvin W. Urquhart, Patterns of Settlement and Subsistence in Southwestern Angola, National Academies Press, 1963, p 10 but in a narrow sense is used specifically for Nyemba ref: Achim von Oppen, 1993, Terms of Trade and Terms of Trust: The History and Contexts of Pre-Colonial Market Production Around the Upper Zambezi and Kasai, p 31 ff'. Obviously Nyemba is not on the east of the Central Highlands.
Secondly, Missionery Emily Pearson tried to concoct a Ngangela language in his English-Ngangela Dictionary, reading this dictionay clearly shows that their is no specific Ngangela language citated. He gives meanings in several languages of Mbunda, Luchazi, Nyemba and others he chose to convince and confuse the reader. This scheem has worked, since Mbunda language has been replaced by Ngangela as a National languge, when it is not. This is our actual objection, as you ask. Ndandulalibingi ( talk) 19:28, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
I agree with you, redirecting it is one way to expose this linguistic fraud. We spoke to a former Government official an Anthropologist and an Umbundu, Mr. Virgilio Coelho of Luanda, who agrees with us that this is a fraud and it is up to us to fight it. The contradiction is caused by the same fraud which has also confused sources, but the truth is that Ngangela is not a language. Ndandulalibingi ( talk) 20:23, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
I am sorry I did not make myself clear. By "us", I meant he agrees with the Mbunda positon on Ngangela. He however went on to say this has been going on for a long time, since the Portuguese colonial era and therefore correcting an error starts with a step. He can neither fix nor publish what it means because, while as he was the Deputy Minister of Culture, he no longer holds that position of influence. I understand you, "fraud" might be too strong a word to used but that is how the Mbunda feel, something stolen from them. Ndandulalibingi ( talk) 20:52, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Noted and agreed. Ndandulalibingi ( talk) 21:12, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't note that you gave an alt name for Mbunda as Ngangela. This name is despised by the Mbunda because it is derogatory. They will never accept that, Mbunda is Mbunda from inception no one can give them another name without their approval. In this case, the redirect is fine but not an alt name, it cannot be there without the explanatory edit which you reverted. I suggest its removal because it justifies a non existent language. Ndandulalibingi ( talk) 16:01, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
I don't have a problem with the change of "dialect" to "accent", but the stray parens are definitely look wrong. Also same mistake in your move-target of New York accent (). DMacks ( talk) 00:33, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
please see the discussions on the talk pages and justify your actions there. mnewmanqc ( talk) 01:37, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello. Re Bible gloss/ Biblical gloss: as you know, English is not my first language, but I sense – perhaps wrongly – a distinction bible (adj.) 'pertaining to the Bible itself' : biblical 'described in the Bible'. Thus, Bible translation or Bible society, but Biblical studies and Biblical canon; thus, I'd rather say Bible gloss 'gloss in the Bible'. Is my sense right or wrong?
Anyway: one way or another, the title is still inadequate, because the article (which is rather unfocused) also covers glosses in Hebrew/Jewish religious scriptures, which do not always fall under the term "Biblical" (or at least, it is not always politically correct term to use). That leaves us with rather unwieldy choices – Scripture gloss? Theological gloss? Or... just leave it as it is... Not mine or yours field of expertise, anyway. No such user ( talk) 08:53, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Please reverse this move Philadelphia dialect > Philadelphia accent. There was no discussion of your action. The article covers not only phonetics, but also lexicon and could very easily have a syntax section. Thanks. μηδείς ( talk) 23:42, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Can you provide a source for that distinction? I have never heard it in 30 years. Accent deals solely with pronunciation, not vocabulary or differences in grammar, etc:
ac·cent noun ˈakˌsent 1. a distinctive mode of pronunciation of a language, esp. one associated with a particular nation, locality, or social class. "a strong German accent" synonyms: pronunciation, intonation, enunciation, articulation, inflection, tone, modulation, cadence, timbre, manner of speaking, delivery; More
If the article were solely on phonetics I wouldn't have an objection. But it is on all aspects of the dialect. μηδείς ( talk) 18:12, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Cyrillic is an officially used alphabet, but in practice it is mainly used in Republika Srpska, whereas in the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina mainly Latin is used.
Why did you lose your administrator status? Kirothereaper ( talk) 01:24, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
That was completely your move [10]. You, without discussion or consensus as you have done time and time again, made a unilateral move of Yuchi to Yuchi people (), and couldn't be bothered to fix double redirects, or notice that you'd move the article to a nonsense title, etc. The other editor, User:RHaworth cleaned it up. The warning was absolutely appropriate. - Uyvsdi ( talk) 21:11, 27 August 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi
Regarding a consensus about how ethnic groups should be named, the following was created in an incredibly drawn out process in which you were actively involved: Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes) (formerly located: here. The final sentence was included for your benefit. - Uyvsdi ( talk) 01:53, 28 August 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi
Hi Kwami. If you are going to nominate articles/pages for speedy deletion, please complete the job with an appropriate CSD criterion. I would assume you are generally aware of this process. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 19:59, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
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You have deleted (by making them redirects) the pages Western Aragonese and Eastern Aragonese. In addition, apparently you haven't moved the contents of those pages to any other page. Can you tell me the reason? Jotamar ( talk) 17:57, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
In Vietnamese, the vowel /u/ becomes [ʊ] before /k, ŋ/, but it's not written in Wikipedia. 198.105.122.45 ( talk) 00:53, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
You seem to have forgotten that when you use the {{ delete}} tag you are expected to provide a reason. On the plus side, I am pleased to see that none of your recent () pages have had incoming links when they were tagged for deletion. — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 21:41, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Is this generally accepted? — Lfdder ( talk) 21:39, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwami, I just noticed that you've renamed the page on Ngaanyatjara to ' Nyanganyatjara' and state that these are alternative names for the one variety of the Western Desert language. This is not correct, these two names refer to distinct varieties of the WDL, Ngaanyatjara spoken at Warburton and surrounds, Nyanganyatjara spoken further west, from Cundeelee up to around Leonora and Laverton. Names for different varieties of the WDL are commonly based on the demonstrative meaning roughly 'this' or 'this one', combined with the comitative suffix /-tjara/. Here the demonstratives are /ngaanya/ and /nyanganya/ and define these as being different varieties, *not* alternative names for the one variety. A reference that mentions this issue is at < http://archive.org/stream/rosettaproject_pjt_detail-1/rosettaproject_pjt_detail-1_djvu.txt>. cheers, Dougg ( talk) 05:11, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Wow, you're fast, I see it's all fixed. Was your source Ethnologue? I saw the same thing there and emailed them about getting it fixed. Dougg ( talk) 05:34, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Is that Dixon 2002 you're referring to? Dougg ( talk) 08:58, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami, could you please explain your recent crusade against mentioning Finno-Ugric languages, for example, these [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] edits of yours? They look a bit problematic (certainly unexplained). KœrteFa {ταλκ} 20:30, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Re this edit: when you use a {{ db-move}} tag, a) the tag is placed before the redirect and b) the first parameter is the page which you want moved on to the page where you are placing the tag. I hope I have carried out your wishes correctly. I have preserved all the history of the article and its talk page. Merging histories in this way can cause minor chaos but I cannot think of another solution. — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 10:16, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
It would be possible to pick out an appropriate page from the history of Talk:Quechuan languages and copy&paste it to Talk:Quechuan languages/Archive 2. — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 11:22, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
If you add <ref>-tags in your language articles, don't forget the new section
== References ==
<references />
(only one of many, many examples)
Thanks --
Frze (
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07:40, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
We seem to be missing ISO 639:him from ISO 639-2, do we want to point it someplace? — Lfdder ( talk) 22:04, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for catching those. I created rd's. However, checking your list, I see [him] and [hmn] were mixed up. Do you think they're the only ones? Was there a problem because [him] had no link ? — kwami ( talk) 02:24, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
I see a few of the spurious languages don't have entries , but only a few . — kwami ( talk) 02:34, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
There's also a problem with [ebu] in the list . — kwami ( talk) 02:39, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
["yol"] = "Forth and Bargy": that's not two names , but a single name with 'and' in it . Same with ["tch"] = "Turks and Caicos Creole" and ["mdz"] = "Suruí do Pará". — kwami ( talk) 02:45, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
xti to xtl and mce are wrong . Are you using WP rather than ISO names ? Because WP names are not stable . sls is also not ISO. — kwami ( talk) 02:49, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Ah, ["cmt"] = "Tsotsitaal and Camtho" and ["fly"] = "Tsotsitaal and Camtho": Here's a case where the 'and' really does link two names , actually two languages . — kwami ( talk) 03:06, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
I've replaced all the entries with their ISO names and added another mode to the script here. Let me know what you think. — Lfdder ( talk) 16:53, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Comparison btn new and old here. Checkboxes are bugged. — Lfdder ( talk) 09:05, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Ethnologue is not a reliable source of numbers of speakers for languages. It is not a valid academic source on languages in general. In the numbers for the Slavey language of northern Canada, for example, its total number for the northern dialect listed is much less that the sum of L1 speakers listed. Its numbers are also substantially less than those listed in both the 2006 and 2011 Canadian censuses. I have removed it from this particular article, but I would advise not relying on it for information on the status of languages. 173.238.65.210 ( talk) 13:40, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
I will no bother to delve into the history but surely you remember when a () page got deleted and an whole clutch of redirects to it - some that you had created - got deleted in consequence. Will you please fix special:whatLinsHere/Melanau–Kajang languages () before requesting the move. — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 20:00, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami,
Could you please provide the reason for the name change from Tweants to Tweants dialect? Woolters ( talk) 22:36, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
What do you mean by "faked"? I got the numbers from Ethnologue. --Nadia (Kutsuit) ( talk) 13:14, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
[26] ?
Hi Kwami. Thanks for replying to me.
I guess Ethnologue figures aren't reliable for the languages in question? Anyway, could you please help me out?
I'm noticing a lot of contradictions in some articles. For example, in the Turkic languages page, it says that Turkish makes up 43% of all Turkic languages spoken around the World, followed by Azerbaijani at 15%. So in that article, Azerbaijani is apparently a more popular language than Uzbek. But in the pages for the Azerbaijani and Uzbek languages, the figures suggest that the Uzbek language is actually more popular than Azerbaijani, not the other way around.
Could you please help me make these articles consistent? Pretty please? :-)
I'm now confused myself, to be honest. Now I don't know if Azerbaijani is more popular than Uzbek, or vice versa.
By the way, I found this recently published map from Columbia University's Gulf/2000 Project website: http://gulf2000.columbia.edu/images/maps/TurkicPeoplesLangs_lg.png
Apparently these are the latest figures. They somehow make the figures on Wikipedia look exaggerated. Do you think we should use this map as a reference? Then again, do you think Wikipedia would even permit such thing?
Looking forward to your reply, Kwami. By the way, it's nice to meet you. :-) --Nadia (Kutsuit) ( talk) 17:17, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Edit-warring and making bad faith claims of falsifying sources is grounds for being blocked . Please stop. -- Nug ( talk) 04:39, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
It's fraud ! Are you truly that clueless ? — kwami ( talk) 07:29, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. -- Nug ( talk) 12:19, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwami. Please see Talk Page - see if I have managed to make you understand what I am trying to get at. Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 12:40, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
There is a new issue with hyphens here. Interested in joining the discussion? -- JorisvS ( talk) 08:32, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
At Talk:List_of_English_words_without_rhymes, I have questions for "vuln" and "poem". I've identified one possible addition to the rhymeless list, and one word that may not belong on the rhymeless list after all. Wiwaxia ( talk) 05:54, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Should we move either so it's spelt the same? — Lfdder ( talk) 16:55, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Most of the page history for Sept. 30 will be preserved in Archive 23.
You hear [tãpɛt] or [tãpaɪ̯t] ? 198.105.97.92 ( talk) 22:30, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Yes, that is a Quebec accent. The word fête is pronounced "fight" in Quebec French. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te69JK28DDo 198.105.97.92 ( talk) 00:50, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
In this
edit of double bond you commented "<!--Use −, not –, for a schematic single bond-->
". Do you have a source for this, or did you make it up? —
Anomalocaris (
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05:18, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [ivɛːʁ] or [ivaɛ̯ʁ] ? 198.105.114.83 ( talk) 17:51, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [ivæːʁ] ? 198.105.114.83 ( talk) 19:40, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [tɒːʁ] or [tɑɔ̯ʁ] ? 198.105.114.83 ( talk) 20:34, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello Administrator Kwamikagami,
I happen to see your revert/undo on my edit ( http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Kwoma_language&oldid=562795842&diff=prev). I certainly respect your decision; I am not clear as to why it was deleted, if you could please explain that to me. Thanks. -- JustBerry ( talk) 06:53, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [kɛːs] or [kaɪ̯s] ? 198.105.121.124 ( talk) 13:02, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwami!
Due to a recent revert on Mongolian language that I made, Orgio89 has made the following edit on my talk page:
The text reads in translation:
The crucial last sentence can be glossed as follows:
While I don't think that this threat is concrete or that this user could identify me, this is the first threat of violence that I have experienced on Wikipedia. As I am fairly sure that Orgio89 wouldn't be impressed by any form of polite answer (in contrast maybe to Ancientsteppe where a similar angry argument without threat started on my talk page, but became somewhat more peaceful in the course), maybe some kind of administrative intervention / block would be appropriate. I don't know which of the many noticeboards is applicable here, so I am pasting this to your talkpage. You may forward it to some other place if you see it fit to do so. Best, G Purevdorj ( talk) 14:17, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [bʁɚ̃] or [bʀɚ̃] ? 198.105.121.124 ( talk) 18:58, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
As a linguist, you might wish to chime in either here or on the related talk pages. It might help diffuse the situation. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 06:39, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [lezɑːχ] or [lezɒːχ] ? 198.105.97.122 ( talk) 15:41, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [ˈtɛmpɪst] or [ˈtɛmpɛst] ? 198.105.97.122 ( talk) 18:29, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
[ˈtɛmpɛst] is a wrong pronunciation ? 198.105.97.122 ( talk) 23:10, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
We now have several citations that civil unions for same sex couples was passed yesterday, July 4th, in Colima, Mexico. Nothing has been adjusted. What is your opinion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glenrhart ( talk • contribs) 19:49, 5 July 2013
You seem to have lost the Coquille Tribe in Oregon in the latest version. Also, you seem to have filled in Lake Ladoga, in Russia, near the Finnish border. 80.61.230.65 ( talk) 13:45, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Can the word bacon be pronounced /ˈbeɪkɒn/ ? 198.105.105.117 ( talk) 13:24, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
So, can the word ticket be pronounced /ˈtɪkɛt/ ? 198.105.117.248 ( talk) 19:46, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Why cannot I edit something that i am certain about ? and moreover the picture attached with the Khariboli region also clearly shows that Khari Boli is indeed spoken in Nepal, then why do you need to revert my edits ?
What if I am certain about something but don't know about references, can such details be put on pages ? In case of Khari boli, i am certain about it because Khari boli happens to be my mothertongue and i have visited the regions in Nepal where the language was infact spoken by the rurals there.
In this
edit of double bond you commented "<!--Use −, not –, for a schematic single bond-->
". Do you have a source for this, or did you make it up? —
Anomalocaris (
talk)
05:18, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Can the word potato be pronounced /poʊˈteɪtoʊ/ ? 198.105.98.58 ( talk) 07:56, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [tɛːt] or [taɪ̯t] ? 198.105.98.58 ( talk) 21:55, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Where's the consensus? Ignoring matters of policy, focusing on other editors, and appealing to conspiracies don't make for consensus - just the opposite. Please address the policy issues. Thanks! -- Ronz ( talk) 19:59, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Can the word welcome be pronounced /ˈwɛlkʌm/ ? 198.105.98.28 ( talk) 08:06, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
/ˈwɛlkəm/ and /ˈwɛlkʌm/ are not very different. I think /ˈwɛlkʌm/ is acceptable. 198.105.98.28 ( talk) 17:42, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [pœtaɪ̯tχ] or [pœtaɪ̯tʀ] ? 198.105.98.28 ( talk) 14:27, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello Hello, I am very impressed by the cartography that you realize. I would like to be able to collaborate with you, specially in the maps of the laws on homosexuality and the maps that treat political and economic topics. Thank you very much.kike
Thank you for answering. I am a geographer and I would like to realize an investigation on the legal evolution of the homosexuality from at least the second world war and to analyze the results — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.26.180.111 ( talk) 13:39, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Are there American people pronounce /ˈmʌfɪn/ for the word muffin ? 198.105.98.28 ( talk) 16:39, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
American people pronounce generally /ˈmʌfən/, right ? 198.105.98.28 ( talk) 17:22, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [væːʁ] or [vaɛ̯ʁ] ? 198.105.98.28 ( talk) 17:47, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Are there some errors in the page Vietnamese phonology ? 198.105.98.28 ( talk) 18:41, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that you moved this to Arab sign-language family which makes it inconsistent with the other articles such as French Sign Language family, German Sign Language family and Japanese Sign Language family. I would like to see it moved back. Naraht ( talk) 02:22, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
I think /ˈtɪkɛt/ is not a wrong pronunciation. 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 18:48, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
It's pronounced /ˈtɪkɛt/ in Welsh English. 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 20:32, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Can the word coconut /ˈkoʊkoʊnʌt/ ? 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 22:24, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
So, the word opinion can be pronounced /oʊˈpɪnjən/ ? 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 22:30, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Actress can be pronounced /ˈæktrεs/ ? 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 22:45, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
But I think the word message can't be pronounced /'mεseɪdʒ/, right ? 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 22:56, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Effect can be pronounced /ɛˈfɛkt/ ? 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 01:37, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
You hear [ˈsadnɪs] or [ˈsadnɛs] ? 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 15:29, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
In American English, the word province is pronounced /ˈprɑvɪns/ or /ˈprɑvəns/ ? 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 23:00, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Is there someone pronounces /ˈkwaɪɛt/ ? 198.105.113.97 ( talk) 15:40, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Hey update your gay marriage image of the world map, it is now 100% legal in Britain the Queen just signed it into law today. RobColtsFan ( talk) 15:43, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/07/17/britain-legalizes-gay-marriage/2524273/
Hi kwami, could you please at least submit admin move requests for what you undid? Thanks, very much appreciated. — Stevey7788 ( talk) 04:37, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Been looking at the Same-sex marriage map, and I saw you added the "almost legal" light blue countries. About Australia: you've got New South Wales, Victoria and Tasmania light blue, but what about the Austrian Capital Territory, which is in the middle of New South Wales? Shouldn't that be a dot (like Washington, D.C. or the native American tribes in the US), whether it is light blue or grey? 80.61.230.65 ( talk) 19:36, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Napkin is never pronounced /ˈnæpkən/, isn't it ? 198.105.100.253 ( talk) 01:53, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
I suggest you use a talk page on one of those articles to explain your actions than revert-warring with others. You may have a case for wanting to make Mi'kmaq a disambiguation page, but there is also good reason to move Mi'kmaq people to the primary topic name Mi'kmaq. This may be potentially controversial, so please discuss it on a talk page. ~ Amatulić ( talk) 03:56, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi there. I would very much appreciate it if you could spend ~2 minutes and take a short survey - a project trying to understand why the most active Wikipedia contributors (such as yourself) may reduce their activity, or retire. I sent you an email with details, if you did not get it please send me a wikiemail, so that I can send you an email with the survey questions. I would very much appreciate your cooperation, as you are among the most active Wikipedia editors who show a pattern of reduced activity, and thus your response would be extremely valuable. Thanks! -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:53, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Do you hear the word fight here ? 198.105.100.253 ( talk) 00:50, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
You think it's [tãpaɪ̯t], [tãpəɪ̯t] or [tãpɐɪ̯t] ? 198.105.100.253 ( talk) 14:40, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Dear K,
I just wanted to express my disappointment about your revert. I really think that this table should be there, because it shows very clearly the situation, and the countries are geographically so it helps people to see things clearly.
Best wishes, M — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martina Moreau ( talk • contribs) 01:06, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Accept is pronounced /ækˈsɛpt/ or /əkˈsɛpt/ ? 198.105.114.217 ( talk) 01:15, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello. Any idea if Luri is considered part of the Persian language? According to the Wikipedia article, it isn't and I haven't found a single source that considers it a Persian language. Would it be acceptable to conflate all Luri speakers and Persian language speakers here List of countries by Persian-speaking population. Iraq has 405,000 Persian language speakers and 99,000 "Luri, Northern" speakers, is conflating both Luri and Persian accurate? Chitooribah ( talk) 13:52, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
I see you have updated the speaker numbers for Ojibwe with e17 reference in the language infobox, but Ethnologue 17 reference lists only ojg, ojc and ojs, missing ojb, ojw, ciw, otw and alq in the count. I can't figure out how to correct this transduction. Please fix and adjust the number to 88260. Meanwhile, in the body, I will adjust the numbers there. Miigwech. CJLippert ( talk) 01:09, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Kwami, could you please move Admiral of the Fleet (Royal Navy) to Admiral of the fleet (Royal Navy) over the redirect? WP:MILTERMS refers. Thanks in advance. Shem ( talk) 20:40, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Please specify your <ref>Linguist List</ref> (exact website). -- Frze ( talk) 18:11, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Please do not move a page to a title that is harder to follow, or move it unilaterally against
naming conventions or
consensus, as you did to
Wuikinuxv people. This includes making page moves while a discussion remains under way. We have some
guidelines to help with deciding what title is best for a subject. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the
test Wikipedia. Thank you. -
Uyvsdi (
talk)Uyvsdi
Please do not add
original research or
novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to
Template:World homosexuality laws map. Please cite a
reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Your edit summary was: "actually wrong: SSM is performed in Mexico." Marriages are not performed in those states in cyan colour. That colour also includes countries like Israel.
Cavann (
talk)
19:32, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwami. I'm planning on expanding Tampuon language using Crowley's phonology and a few other sources. I noticed you started the article with:
I'm curious as to why you included the part about Lamam in the Tampuon article. I've always been under the impression that "Lamam" is a dialect of Kaco' as spoken in adjacent areas of Viet Nam (Kaco' being the dialect spoken in Cambodia), that is to say, Kaco'/Lamam is distinct from, albeit closely related to Tampuon. Ethnologue seems to support this. Is it possible that the bit about Lamam in the Tampuon article was accidental, maybe from a quick copy and paste to start the article? Also the infobox for Tampuon includes the code "lmm" but, again, that link says it is associated with Kaco', not Tampuon. Was this just an oversight, or am I missing something?-- William Thweatt Talk Contribs 04:52, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Saraiki is a language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.186.107.201 ( talk) 05:41, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Dear Saraiki is language. see http://globalrecordings.net/en/language/20019 i have got consensus. 182.186.107.201 ( talk) 06:00, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami. Double check when you add |ref=e17 to the language infobox that a Reflist is present in the Reference section. Best, Sam 🎤 16:53, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
I wrote in the lead for Elamite language that it is considered a language isolate. A "fringe believer" changed this to: " Classification of Elamite is disputed, it is sometimes considered a language isolate, although classification as Afroasiatic has been considered.[1] " From what I understand that 'dispute' is perhaps 10,000 to one ?? This guy can put that somewhere down in the article but re-worded, I don't think this should go in the lead, but the vast majority opinion, correct? Thanks! HammerFilmFan ( talk) 15:14, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
You hear [sʊŋ], [soŋ] or [sɔŋ] ? 198.105.124.127 ( talk) 13:33, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Is Lungalunga a Patpatar–Tolai language or is it not? Like Kahuroa on Talk:Polynesian languages#Components, I don't put much stock in ABVD's classification ... -- Florian Blaschke ( talk) 17:07, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Kwamikagami, I've reinstated the edit I made about the International Phonetic Alphabet having symbols not letters. The official IPA chart [1] and the Introduction to the Handbook of the International Phonetic Association refer to the 'characters' as symbols [2]. No phonetician calls them letters, because they are symbols, like chemists' use of Au for gold or Fe for iron, a shorthand designation for a physical object which exhibits a constellation of (in this case: phonetic) properties. I hope you'll take a look at the IPA materials and retain the edit. Teaching my students the difference is hard enough without them being misinformed by Wikipedia. MarkJJones ( talk) 07:35, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
When you say "you" in your reply, do you mean the International Phonetic Association, because that's the body I'm citing. I reiterate my point: no chemist would not call Fe "chemical letters", they would call Fe a chemical symbol. It's exactly the same for phoneticians. I can't help what laypeople do (your "everyone"), but as an expert body, the IPA in its publications never ever ever ever refers to the "IPA letters". The article should reflect expert usage, and not what non-experts have come to accept as a possible label. The worst aspect of using "letter" is that it confuses speech and writing, and for that reason alone - barring the techncal non-usage - it should be avoided. MarkJJones ( talk) 09:43, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
All those large shogi variants – have you actually played them? (I've personally never actually thought deeply about anything larger than tenjiku. Perhaps I should!) Double sharp ( talk) 15:19, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
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User talk:Kwamikagami/old" is a new subpage of this talk page.
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Wavelength (
talk)
15:04, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami,
someone just asked me to please send my dissertation to read since the following page says that I published in 2011 already.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C7%82%E2%80%99Amkoe_language
This is total non-sense as is most of the stuff written on the page, that is most things on the page are scientifically simply wrong. I don't know who put me into the references, but if you are able to, please remove all my references as well as the reference Gerlach & Berthold from the list since these papers/presentations do not support anything written on my page.
Thanks!
Sincerely,
Linda Gerlach — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moromisicka ( talk • contribs) 12:24, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami,
thanks for your reply.
No, it was definitely not my dissertation, since I am currently still writing it. There are several problems with this article: first, it includes links to presentations held at a University quite a long time ago which are thus not up to date and which should actually not be public. I already asked the University to remove them.
Second, a lot of the stuff on the page is simply copied from these presentations without reference which is totally against scientific practice! Third, there are a lot of errors in the article in general which clearly show, that the author/authors do not know what they are writing about and I don't want to be cited on such a page. If all errors are corrected I have no problem being cited, but then please cite published materials and not power point presentations!
I hope this was constructive enough and you understand the problems.
Sincerely, L. Gerlach — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.94.96.198 ( talk) 12:31, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
I was wondering what the Linguist opinion is on the known pronunciation of "Old Babylonian" would have been in the days of the Chaldean-dynast revived New Babylonian Empire; Nabonidas's obsession with the ancient past might have resulted in him gathering scribes/scholars of his day to determine the spoken language? Surely the priest-scholars-scribes would have been able to see that old cuneiform texts were different in language "structure" than modern Babylonian - like Olde English versus 18th century English - and wondered? I realize this is a question that is loaded with assumptions, but I am curious to when the dearth of pronunciation of the original language was "lost" due to decline/invasions/etc.
Thanks, Hammer (aka Brian) HammerFilmFan ( talk) 17:37, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
I don't mind your revert that much, but it doesn't make sense to me. Isn't the very definition of a classic disfix when you remove a prefix and replace it with a null prefix? (Please respond on my talkpage.) Thanks! -- Μετάknowledge discuss/ deeds 21:09, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Hey, saw the revert for the map in Andamanese Languages. I had posted a schematic version that provided some more context with today's landmarks (GT Road, cities). I also felt the original map is of too low resolution (say for printing for discussion in class).
Don't think it makes sense to have both maps on the page. So is there anything else you would recommend that would make this an improvement from the current map? I would be happy to make the changes.
Rasagy ( talk) 05:55, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
According to Unruh & Kalisch there are six languages: Angaité, Guaná (note the acute), Enlhet (Lengua norte), Enxet (Lengua sur), Sanapaná, Toba-maskoy/Toba-enenlhet [2]. Angaité is apparently considered a Sanapaná dialect in Ethnologue; Enlhet and Enxet are counted as one Lengua language. Ethnologue's data seems to be outdated but even if we cling to it as more authoritative it won't hurt to mention the alternative classification in the corresponding articles. And finally, Toba-Maskoy is a better name for a language than just Maskoy/Mascoy, which is ambiguous.-- Adnyre ( talk) 10:51, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
May I know why have you reverted the changes I made to the article called Hindi? First of all I want to mention that the entire article has been written with prejudice in mind, and the neutrality of the article is questionable too. Article does not respect the census data provided by the Government of India instead it relies on some unverified ethnologue at the same time it tries to separate various Hindi dialect from it just for the sake of reducing the number of native speakers, why haven’t you done anything with regards to this very aspect of this article. If you want I can give you data but the way you have reverted it without discussing it is shows your arrogant and pathetic attitude. Quality of this article is also extremely poor. I want you to do some research and correct the facts. Dinesh smita ( talk) 14:21, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami,
Can you please provide an explanation for Na-Dene and Yeniseian language families to be grouped together. It is not yet a widely accepted language family and the article on Dené–Yeniseian languages states so. If this family is accepted widely, then the article should reflect the change. I am just a beginner in wikipedia and no linguist, so I really do not know whether the grouping is correct or not. For people with no prior knowledge about this, it would be a favour if you could modify the article Dené–Yeniseian languages accordingly with references supporting that it is a widely accepted family. Otherwise, it doesnt do justice to group them together only in the template and let the main article take a contradictory stand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gurumoorthy Poochandhai ( talk • contribs) 21:06, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Your AWB edits change the capitalisation of "The Gambia" to "the Gambia". However, sources such as the factbook and the BBC capitalise The, as does their official website and statehouse website. Is this something that AWB can be adjusted to counter for? CMD ( talk) 13:46, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Please, please do update everything that no longer applies. Or add "formerly". But I would certainly cite information from 1913 for Welsh, English, or any other language worldwide if it demonstrated the nature and character of the language. Surely the criterion is not the date at which the source was produced, but the accuracy of the data. In any case, shouldn't we make use of 100-year-old information to illustrate linguistic history? Shouldn't we grasp at that rather than - AS IS THE CASE WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE LANGUAGES OF AFRICA - having no information (apart from classification) at all? — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.A.Biddulph ( talk • contribs) 08:07, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I still can't understand why information 100 years old is NECESSARILY outdated, to the point of being MISINFORMATION! I have been an amateur student of the African linguistica for about 35 years now, living with the constant frustration of not being able to find information, old or new, on most of the African languages - or even clear definitions of which language is which. If Wikipedia insists on such narrow criteria as I try to share what little I have got, then Wikipedia is obviously unfit for the task of describing the African linguistica - as any Africanist may agree, this continues an existing bias against these languages, a continuing obscurity which an insistence on only current material is bound to make even worse. The vocabularies are added for the express purpose of helping to identify which language is which - no good talking about current spelling or orthographical conventions if they either do not exist, or have got little beyond the decisions of an academic conference. And when I find current practice corresponds to IPA suggestions from such as Daniel Jones over 100 years ago, I am emboldened to try and make some use of material that old.
On the subject of language identification, I have been trying VERY HARD to fit information into the Stubs, etc. already provided - often a matter of uncertainty and difficulty, given the fact that no two sources, old or new, will describe the same language or variety even by the same name! I have to add that I do not agree with current classifications, as too generic by far, even where individual languages are accurately placed. I took particular exception to the Cambridge University Press LANGUAGES OF AFRICA 2000, because of its high-and-mighty academic-led approach, offering us irrefutable categories to which we must accede in spite of evidence, or even in default of any. This sort of thing may be Wikipedia-friendly, but I thought the idea of the exercise was to set down objective truth objectively as nearly as we can. I do not think, from my experience in other branches of linguistics, that languages, even purely oral media, undergo change as rapidly as to invalidate an observation make 3 and a half generations ago - especially if that observation is in fact the only one we've got. The stuff on language classification of course of that period is utter rot - but I have a feeling that the categories of 2000 may prove to be just so in a few years' time. The fixed element, if you like, is that if you ask for maji somebody might bring you a drink of water, whether that language is now called Negro-African or Bantu or whatever. The languages of my own country - Welsh and English - are dear to me, and a part of my identity. The fact that somebody has classified them both as Indo-European is, if you like, incidental. So why should African media be denied a similar identity?? Why shouldn't the speaker of such a language find it in Wikipedia and say, "Yes, that's my language - or pretty near it! I'm glad somebody at least has acknowledged its existence!"
Sorry to go on at such length - but I really feel that unless you can find something better (and I invite the scholars of the world to do so) it would be a bad idea to rub out what little there is. Add caveats if you will - but please don't shrink every people's language down to a Guthrie list classification. And please don't judge the accuracy of information by the date it has on it! This approach is unscholastic and restrictive in the extreme - and often does a disservice to those who spent long years in the country where the relevant language was used, and sat in their lonely house (like Captain Abraham with his typewriter with the missing dot over the i, used to describe both Yoruba and Idoma) trying to share it all with the rest of the world. Greggs in the 1970s saw fit to reprint a lot of this sort of stuff (and went bust in the process) because they realised that without it there would be a perfect and absolute blank. The people at Hippocrene Books in New York valiantly try to do the same (how they finance it all, I do not know)- look at the vintage of some of their current titles! Indian publishing houses are turning out volumes produced by somebody with a European name in the colonial period - because otherwise there would be nothing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.A.Biddulph ( talk • contribs) 15:13, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
If "all scholars" accept the classification "Afro-Asiatic" then it is an untruth, if I myself reject it, even though I work for no academic institution. The alternative suggestion is that I am not a "scholar". I change no classifications as given - but if I sincerely think they are WRONG??? No doubt Wikipedia prefers "all scholars" to my incompetent amateur fumblings. Knowing how strongly I feel about giving parity to the African linguistica, and the frustration offered by your condemnation of my material, good or bad, perhaps I should take advice and desist, with the invitation that perhaps "all scholars" should come forward, and fill all the gaps and Stubs with really useful material newly-minted. Meanwhile I shall amateurishly fumble at Africanlanguagesinformation@gmail.com where I shall continue to endeavour to offer to my contacts what I can. I'm perfectly sure you could get hold of THE BANTU LANGUAGES OF AFRICA from 1959 and ATTEMPT to re-visit every item in it in view of all the very latest unquestioned and unquestioning scholastic fads and fancies - but would that tell us any more truth about the speeches and media of my brothers and sisters in Africa? Would your rubbishing of the information make it any less true, where it does prove to be accurate? I was alive in 1959 - I suppose those who spoke the various languages in 1959 may in some cases still be alive. Even if the language they spoke is otherwise dead, it is conceivable that somebody may want to know that it existed, or even that it was believed to have existed, but erroneously.
And I'm glad TIGRE seems so well-documented - perhaps you could suggest a few titles for my bookshelf? Strange that none of the people with all the latest have failed to offer any sort of information on Tigre to Wikipedia readers? I have always wanted them to do just that! Just thought a fumbling amateur (putatively "non-scholar") might fill up the space a bit meanwhile, since I find such rubbish written on the Ethiopian languages. I thought the "Edit" button was that so these experts could quietly cross out my mistakes and put them right.
But please do not expect me to cease complaining if the reputable institution that Wikipedia is seeking to become continues to FAIL to treat African languages as fully and as intelligently as it treats other languages ancient and modern - I really think that the deficit at present amounts to an intellectual scandal. Sorry if this is unscholastic - perhaps you could canvass the views of the dozen or so Africanists in the world and get a PROPER opinion from proper scholars included in that elusive "all"?? I presume that since ordinary chumps like me are excluded from the category, such an exercise wouldn't take long. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.23.248.121 ( talk) 19:50, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
User:Double sharp/Consonants – since reading your very old tips at Talk:Alveolar trill (which BTW are not working yet, but we'll see in a few months!!!), I was wondering if you had any general tips on how to get rid of the grey areas there... Double sharp ( talk) 14:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Greetings! Since my issues brought up at Talk:Kotava have not been addressed, I have decided to start a deletion discussion on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kotava (3rd nomination). Your input will be greatly appreciated. Best, — IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu? 21:35, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I am adding content on the grammar of constructed languages. I looked through the archive of the na'vi language page, and found that It was moved because quote "The reason is as stated above, since most of this material is original, unsourced, or some combination". I found sources (which I considered reliable) and put inline citations. This is all material which I wrote. I will remind you that this is a)an overview, not a complete descripton and b)AFD the page if you want to delete it reH ghun ghunwI' 03:59, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for cleaning up the [West Bomberai languages] page. One question though: the term "family-level isolate" as used in Ethnologue is potentially misleading. It is certainly not the same as a language "isolate". And the use of this concept can lead to some odd classifications. For example, in a family without any subgroup structure, all the members languages would be "family-level isolates". At the very least shouldn't Karas be listed as "family-level isolate"? Or would it be even better to drop the term altogether? Gholton ( talk) 02:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Please comment here. Thanks. georgianJORJADZE 00:21, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
There's a difference between Kedayan and Bruneian Malay as you can see here ( [3] [4]). And you should read all these books ( [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]) to see there's a difference between Bruneian Malay and Kedayan. Even though this two race have a similarity, they still have a difference both in culture and language! Plus you should not just labelled it as a "nationality".— иz нίpнόp ʜᴇʟᴘ! 10:30, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
http://postimg.org/image/rs5cg9bbh/034366e6/ HammerFilmFan ( talk) 03:10, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Howdy. I have a couple of questions for you.
Personally, I think we should go with what is in the reference (assuming it is reliable) rather than round it.-- Rockfang ( talk) 07:45, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello Kwami
You edited the article >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people
and wrote the source does not address the paragraph, but it actually did exactly this. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/325225/Kurdish-language
The source is about the Kurdish language. And if the reason is that we only use sources for linguistic, than why does that need to be specifically Mackenzie's classification?
Anyway just asking not that it is essential to change it back.
regards Wikisupporting ( talk) 09:06, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
kwami ( talk), off course I provide source in all my articles. However, using words like bad math and silliness belongs to rude people and not professionals. Using provocative words is not only stupid but uncivilized. Bad math means my calculations are wrong, but to the contrally, all you should have done is cite significant figures as you have done. Anyway, this is insignificant, our defense for your Ngangela that it is not being a language but a tool to erase Mbunda is what matters, and that is where it pains you most. I hate sarcastic people. Ndandulalibingi ( talk) 12:43, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks that you have now used the right method for significant figures. However, I do not agree with you for denying the Ngangela issue because on 27th October 2011 at 20.39, you created a page claiming that Ngangela is a language. You went further to claim that Ngangela is also called Nyemba. As it has so far been established, Ngangela is an Umbundu describing the people of the east, or Ngangela is a generic term for peoples east of the Central Highlands, ref: José Redinha, Etnias e culturas de Angola, Luanda: Instituto de Investigalção Científica de Angola, 1975 and it has a slightly derogatory meaning when applied by the western ethnic groups, ref: Alvin W. Urquhart, Patterns of Settlement and Subsistence in Southwestern Angola, National Academies Press, 1963, p 10 but in a narrow sense is used specifically for Nyemba ref: Achim von Oppen, 1993, Terms of Trade and Terms of Trust: The History and Contexts of Pre-Colonial Market Production Around the Upper Zambezi and Kasai, p 31 ff'. Obviously Nyemba is not on the east of the Central Highlands.
Secondly, Missionery Emily Pearson tried to concoct a Ngangela language in his English-Ngangela Dictionary, reading this dictionay clearly shows that their is no specific Ngangela language citated. He gives meanings in several languages of Mbunda, Luchazi, Nyemba and others he chose to convince and confuse the reader. This scheem has worked, since Mbunda language has been replaced by Ngangela as a National languge, when it is not. This is our actual objection, as you ask. Ndandulalibingi ( talk) 19:28, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
I agree with you, redirecting it is one way to expose this linguistic fraud. We spoke to a former Government official an Anthropologist and an Umbundu, Mr. Virgilio Coelho of Luanda, who agrees with us that this is a fraud and it is up to us to fight it. The contradiction is caused by the same fraud which has also confused sources, but the truth is that Ngangela is not a language. Ndandulalibingi ( talk) 20:23, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
I am sorry I did not make myself clear. By "us", I meant he agrees with the Mbunda positon on Ngangela. He however went on to say this has been going on for a long time, since the Portuguese colonial era and therefore correcting an error starts with a step. He can neither fix nor publish what it means because, while as he was the Deputy Minister of Culture, he no longer holds that position of influence. I understand you, "fraud" might be too strong a word to used but that is how the Mbunda feel, something stolen from them. Ndandulalibingi ( talk) 20:52, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Noted and agreed. Ndandulalibingi ( talk) 21:12, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't note that you gave an alt name for Mbunda as Ngangela. This name is despised by the Mbunda because it is derogatory. They will never accept that, Mbunda is Mbunda from inception no one can give them another name without their approval. In this case, the redirect is fine but not an alt name, it cannot be there without the explanatory edit which you reverted. I suggest its removal because it justifies a non existent language. Ndandulalibingi ( talk) 16:01, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
I don't have a problem with the change of "dialect" to "accent", but the stray parens are definitely look wrong. Also same mistake in your move-target of New York accent (). DMacks ( talk) 00:33, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
please see the discussions on the talk pages and justify your actions there. mnewmanqc ( talk) 01:37, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello. Re Bible gloss/ Biblical gloss: as you know, English is not my first language, but I sense – perhaps wrongly – a distinction bible (adj.) 'pertaining to the Bible itself' : biblical 'described in the Bible'. Thus, Bible translation or Bible society, but Biblical studies and Biblical canon; thus, I'd rather say Bible gloss 'gloss in the Bible'. Is my sense right or wrong?
Anyway: one way or another, the title is still inadequate, because the article (which is rather unfocused) also covers glosses in Hebrew/Jewish religious scriptures, which do not always fall under the term "Biblical" (or at least, it is not always politically correct term to use). That leaves us with rather unwieldy choices – Scripture gloss? Theological gloss? Or... just leave it as it is... Not mine or yours field of expertise, anyway. No such user ( talk) 08:53, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Please reverse this move Philadelphia dialect > Philadelphia accent. There was no discussion of your action. The article covers not only phonetics, but also lexicon and could very easily have a syntax section. Thanks. μηδείς ( talk) 23:42, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Can you provide a source for that distinction? I have never heard it in 30 years. Accent deals solely with pronunciation, not vocabulary or differences in grammar, etc:
ac·cent noun ˈakˌsent 1. a distinctive mode of pronunciation of a language, esp. one associated with a particular nation, locality, or social class. "a strong German accent" synonyms: pronunciation, intonation, enunciation, articulation, inflection, tone, modulation, cadence, timbre, manner of speaking, delivery; More
If the article were solely on phonetics I wouldn't have an objection. But it is on all aspects of the dialect. μηδείς ( talk) 18:12, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Cyrillic is an officially used alphabet, but in practice it is mainly used in Republika Srpska, whereas in the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina mainly Latin is used.
Why did you lose your administrator status? Kirothereaper ( talk) 01:24, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
That was completely your move [10]. You, without discussion or consensus as you have done time and time again, made a unilateral move of Yuchi to Yuchi people (), and couldn't be bothered to fix double redirects, or notice that you'd move the article to a nonsense title, etc. The other editor, User:RHaworth cleaned it up. The warning was absolutely appropriate. - Uyvsdi ( talk) 21:11, 27 August 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi
Regarding a consensus about how ethnic groups should be named, the following was created in an incredibly drawn out process in which you were actively involved: Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes) (formerly located: here. The final sentence was included for your benefit. - Uyvsdi ( talk) 01:53, 28 August 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi
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You have deleted (by making them redirects) the pages Western Aragonese and Eastern Aragonese. In addition, apparently you haven't moved the contents of those pages to any other page. Can you tell me the reason? Jotamar ( talk) 17:57, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
In Vietnamese, the vowel /u/ becomes [ʊ] before /k, ŋ/, but it's not written in Wikipedia. 198.105.122.45 ( talk) 00:53, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
You seem to have forgotten that when you use the {{ delete}} tag you are expected to provide a reason. On the plus side, I am pleased to see that none of your recent () pages have had incoming links when they were tagged for deletion. — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 21:41, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Is this generally accepted? — Lfdder ( talk) 21:39, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwami, I just noticed that you've renamed the page on Ngaanyatjara to ' Nyanganyatjara' and state that these are alternative names for the one variety of the Western Desert language. This is not correct, these two names refer to distinct varieties of the WDL, Ngaanyatjara spoken at Warburton and surrounds, Nyanganyatjara spoken further west, from Cundeelee up to around Leonora and Laverton. Names for different varieties of the WDL are commonly based on the demonstrative meaning roughly 'this' or 'this one', combined with the comitative suffix /-tjara/. Here the demonstratives are /ngaanya/ and /nyanganya/ and define these as being different varieties, *not* alternative names for the one variety. A reference that mentions this issue is at < http://archive.org/stream/rosettaproject_pjt_detail-1/rosettaproject_pjt_detail-1_djvu.txt>. cheers, Dougg ( talk) 05:11, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Wow, you're fast, I see it's all fixed. Was your source Ethnologue? I saw the same thing there and emailed them about getting it fixed. Dougg ( talk) 05:34, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Is that Dixon 2002 you're referring to? Dougg ( talk) 08:58, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami, could you please explain your recent crusade against mentioning Finno-Ugric languages, for example, these [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] edits of yours? They look a bit problematic (certainly unexplained). KœrteFa {ταλκ} 20:30, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Re this edit: when you use a {{ db-move}} tag, a) the tag is placed before the redirect and b) the first parameter is the page which you want moved on to the page where you are placing the tag. I hope I have carried out your wishes correctly. I have preserved all the history of the article and its talk page. Merging histories in this way can cause minor chaos but I cannot think of another solution. — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 10:16, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
It would be possible to pick out an appropriate page from the history of Talk:Quechuan languages and copy&paste it to Talk:Quechuan languages/Archive 2. — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 11:22, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
If you add <ref>-tags in your language articles, don't forget the new section
== References ==
<references />
(only one of many, many examples)
Thanks --
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07:40, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
We seem to be missing ISO 639:him from ISO 639-2, do we want to point it someplace? — Lfdder ( talk) 22:04, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for catching those. I created rd's. However, checking your list, I see [him] and [hmn] were mixed up. Do you think they're the only ones? Was there a problem because [him] had no link ? — kwami ( talk) 02:24, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
I see a few of the spurious languages don't have entries , but only a few . — kwami ( talk) 02:34, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
There's also a problem with [ebu] in the list . — kwami ( talk) 02:39, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
["yol"] = "Forth and Bargy": that's not two names , but a single name with 'and' in it . Same with ["tch"] = "Turks and Caicos Creole" and ["mdz"] = "Suruí do Pará". — kwami ( talk) 02:45, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
xti to xtl and mce are wrong . Are you using WP rather than ISO names ? Because WP names are not stable . sls is also not ISO. — kwami ( talk) 02:49, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Ah, ["cmt"] = "Tsotsitaal and Camtho" and ["fly"] = "Tsotsitaal and Camtho": Here's a case where the 'and' really does link two names , actually two languages . — kwami ( talk) 03:06, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
I've replaced all the entries with their ISO names and added another mode to the script here. Let me know what you think. — Lfdder ( talk) 16:53, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Comparison btn new and old here. Checkboxes are bugged. — Lfdder ( talk) 09:05, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Ethnologue is not a reliable source of numbers of speakers for languages. It is not a valid academic source on languages in general. In the numbers for the Slavey language of northern Canada, for example, its total number for the northern dialect listed is much less that the sum of L1 speakers listed. Its numbers are also substantially less than those listed in both the 2006 and 2011 Canadian censuses. I have removed it from this particular article, but I would advise not relying on it for information on the status of languages. 173.238.65.210 ( talk) 13:40, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
I will no bother to delve into the history but surely you remember when a () page got deleted and an whole clutch of redirects to it - some that you had created - got deleted in consequence. Will you please fix special:whatLinsHere/Melanau–Kajang languages () before requesting the move. — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 20:00, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami,
Could you please provide the reason for the name change from Tweants to Tweants dialect? Woolters ( talk) 22:36, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
What do you mean by "faked"? I got the numbers from Ethnologue. --Nadia (Kutsuit) ( talk) 13:14, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
[26] ?
Hi Kwami. Thanks for replying to me.
I guess Ethnologue figures aren't reliable for the languages in question? Anyway, could you please help me out?
I'm noticing a lot of contradictions in some articles. For example, in the Turkic languages page, it says that Turkish makes up 43% of all Turkic languages spoken around the World, followed by Azerbaijani at 15%. So in that article, Azerbaijani is apparently a more popular language than Uzbek. But in the pages for the Azerbaijani and Uzbek languages, the figures suggest that the Uzbek language is actually more popular than Azerbaijani, not the other way around.
Could you please help me make these articles consistent? Pretty please? :-)
I'm now confused myself, to be honest. Now I don't know if Azerbaijani is more popular than Uzbek, or vice versa.
By the way, I found this recently published map from Columbia University's Gulf/2000 Project website: http://gulf2000.columbia.edu/images/maps/TurkicPeoplesLangs_lg.png
Apparently these are the latest figures. They somehow make the figures on Wikipedia look exaggerated. Do you think we should use this map as a reference? Then again, do you think Wikipedia would even permit such thing?
Looking forward to your reply, Kwami. By the way, it's nice to meet you. :-) --Nadia (Kutsuit) ( talk) 17:17, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Edit-warring and making bad faith claims of falsifying sources is grounds for being blocked . Please stop. -- Nug ( talk) 04:39, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
It's fraud ! Are you truly that clueless ? — kwami ( talk) 07:29, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. -- Nug ( talk) 12:19, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Kwami. Please see Talk Page - see if I have managed to make you understand what I am trying to get at. Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 12:40, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
There is a new issue with hyphens here. Interested in joining the discussion? -- JorisvS ( talk) 08:32, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
At Talk:List_of_English_words_without_rhymes, I have questions for "vuln" and "poem". I've identified one possible addition to the rhymeless list, and one word that may not belong on the rhymeless list after all. Wiwaxia ( talk) 05:54, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Should we move either so it's spelt the same? — Lfdder ( talk) 16:55, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Most of the page history for Sept. 30 will be preserved in Archive 23.