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Hi; I just happened to be staying in Clare, of which Saulnierville is one of the component communities; there's a non-IPA pronunciation item on this page, and likely on other articles in the same grouping (Clare#Communities). Please note that the pronunciation should be in Acadian French, and may vary from "regular" Canadian French ( Quebec French). Skookum1 ( talk) 15:19, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Why are you and Erutuon ripping out content to make Diaeresis into a disambig? Please don't forget WP:FIXDABLINKS. -- JaGa talk 10:13, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
I generally marvel at your treatment of IPA transcriptions (although I sometimes think a simpler set of IPA characters would help readers more), occasionally I'm baffled. In this edit at Carnival in Germany, Switzerland and Austria, you twice represented an "n" (as in November) with a double-character rendered as m̩: "Fastelavend" = [ˈfastl̩.ˌɒːvm̩t] and "Fastelabend" = [ˈfastl̩.ˌɒːbm̩t]. With some enlargement, I can make out that there is a small dot below the "m", a symbol that I can't find in the International Phonetic Alphabet. I assume it's some kind of modifier. Now, when I listen to myself pronouncing these words, I can't detect any hint of "m" – my lips never close. To me, it's very clearly an "n", just like it is in the root of those words, German: Abend (evening). What does m̩ mean? Curious, Michael Bednarek ( talk) 03:32, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
I notice that you have added the categories non-Min and Ping-Yue to the [Pinghua] page, the categories used should be representative. There are many non's which describe Pinghua, why not say non-hakka? The dividing of Chinese into Min and non-Min then sub-dividing is not a system classification supported by the majority of linguists, the number of speakers of Min is less than 10% of all Chinese speakers, and as such should not be included as if it were a widely accepted convention. The classification of Ping-Yue has some linguist justification, though the categorization should be applied throughout but it is not use in say [Taishanese]. However the use of Ping-Yue on the pages which at present say Yue would lead to many objections, because whilst it has some justification it is not widely accepted convention, which suggests the correct place for information on the relationship between Pinghua and Yue is within the article itself, not a side panel. Johnkn63 ( talk) 13:25, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Hello Kwami, I was debating with User:本本一世 on the creditbility of his sources, in section "Population figure citation?" of Sichuanese Mandarin talk page. Can you come and offer a 3rd perspective? -- LLTimes ( talk) 21:03, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Do you still think Jupiter trojan and the like should have lower-case 't'? I do. Rothorpe ( talk) 00:42, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I've commented there. Glad you agree. Rothorpe ( talk) 02:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi! You recently moved the Music of Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky page. I don't know if you noticed, but there was a move discussion going on on the talk page. The discussion actually favoured the target where you moved the article so no problem there, but apparently you forgot to move the talk page of the article, leaving it at Talk:Music of Pyotr Il'yich Tchaikovsky. I've moved the talk page to the correct location now. Also, when you move an article after a move discussion, could you also close the discussion by at least removing the {{ movereq}} tag on the talk page so that people know that the request has been already actioned? Anyway thanks for your work :) Regards, Jafeluv ( talk) 05:34, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Our discussion has been sort of drowned out by the rapid flow of postings at Talk:Croatian language. I'd like to continue the discussion here (or my talk page, I suppose. You decide). I'm particularly interested in the idea that the ~20 isoglosses that Greenburg provides are irrelevant to language (B/C/S/M) identification. What leads you to assert this? — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi] 04:02, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Sorry Kwami, but the Burgenland Croatian also in Austria, Croatia and Hungary officially language and not dialect. Doncsecz talk 13:44, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
The best way to describe all the languages is by using the diasystem method, and the best uniting name for this is Central South Slavic diasystem. http://books.google.com.au/books?id=geh261xgI8sC&pg=PA518&lpg=PA518&dq=weinrich+diasystem&source=bl&ots=DW062gZ5ip&sig=a-zsU_fwYW3iNvlLzGyiJPGrE3s&hl=en&ei=A8mxTPbAA5OuvgObvImwBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CCkQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q&f=false gives the best reasoning. Serbo-Croatian can be as a separate article describing the history behind this standard, however the way the current languages Croatian, Serbian, Bosnian, Montenegran can be best described through the diasystem method, if you read the pages in the book this makes perfect sense. I would please ask you to reconsider when reverting the edit that I have posted. The Central South Slavic diasystem is used by the European Union. Vodomar ( talk) 14:34, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Wait till 2011 I guess. Kwami, just break out the big impressive book of languages you have and just source Vodomar's citation needed's, may as well leave them rather then getting into an edit war over citation tags! It is, after all, a C-class article. I'm sure the numerous sources thrown around in various discussions contain enough to provide some sources for what remains. Chipmunkdavis ( talk) 15:47, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
I can only empathize with you for trying to keep some resemblance of NPOV in that article and one in the section above. NPOV generally seems a lost cause on Wikipedia in articles that people care deeply about. (I saw your posts on User talk:Courcelles, which I was watching hoping he'd reply on trivial matter than unfortunately requires administrative rights.) Tijfo098 ( talk) 20:01, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 02:12, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi, can you kindly check the Pashto dialects new article? Thanks! Khestwol ( talk) 10:18, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Actually, given that it's about a class of things, the plural seems fine by WP:SINGULAR; I feel no need to move it. -- Cybercobra (talk) 08:45, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
That anon IP at Croatian language is probably User:Jack Sparrow 3. Sounds like him, especially the "You don't speak Croatian, you don't have any right here" crap. -- Taivo ( talk) 14:24, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
User:Flopy asked some questions on my talk page and requested that you answer as well. I don't mind if you want to answer on my talk page. -- Taivo ( talk) 21:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, maybe your IPA-trained eye ear might find a hiccup, but I expect you can enjoy listening to my recent
this and
this. -
DePiep (
talk) 22:22, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
hello... I understand if you have some concerns about my addition. I thought it was meaningful, and decent info. I'm a little confused by what you said in your edit (revert) comment, that the edit was "misleading", and "just as it would be to say about English numbers." I'm not totally sure what you mean. Are you saying that Asimov (a giant when it came to understanding things like this) was wrong? Or that Roman numerals can't be scrambled that way, though generally won't be? And "decreasing value" is what's normally done? The point is that it's accurate and good-faith. And according to Wikipedia policy, only actual vandalism or truly inaccurate things, (or totally unrelated things), should be summarily "reverted". Undoing or reverting, per WP recommendation and guidelines, should be done rarely.... And not for good faith accurate edits or additions. I hope we can maybe work something out, or maybe move it or modify my contrib here, instead of just totally removing it. Let me know what you think. And thanks for your attention to this. ResearchRave ( talk) 00:34, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Do you think the title "Differences between Serbo-Croatian standard varieties" would be a more suitable article name than " Differences between standard Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian"? -- ◅PRODUCER ( TALK) 20:18, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi there, there was a request at WP:GL/I to vectorize File:Masses of all moons.png. I was hoping you could direct me to a source that has the numbers you used to create the graph so I can make an accurate vector. Thanks, Shep Talk 22:34, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I'm sorry to disturb you but I need some help about the Swedish pronunciation of Stockholm. The discussion continues here.-- Carnby ( talk) 22:43, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
I speak American* (and so can you!)
*Actually, not.
First off, Kwami, we in the reality-based community are supposed to pretend to take Fox "News" seriously. After all, even the current muslin secular socialist POTUS does.
Well of course Urdu and Hindi are the same language -- but that's an observation from mere common sense, whereas it might be better to say that a language is a dialect with an army and navy; and as we know all too well, both India and Pakistan most certainly do have them, air forces, and even WMDs. (Though it's all a jolly good show.) -- Hoary ( talk) 00:07, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
And certainly a thick mist of silliness does hang over many en:WP articles related the subcontinent. -- Hoary ( talk) 00:52, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Question for you - hopefully an easy one. I created Wikipedia:IPA_for_Manx_Gaelic so we can use the {{IPA-gv formatting as we have for {{IPA-gd etc to direct folk at a more relevant page than just the generic IPA page. But somehow the formatting isn't working (see Cammag for example) - it doesn't look like a redirect that's needed, so I'm doing something wrong but what? Akerbeltz ( talk) 11:05, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
The new definition captures the differing opinions of the two camps of taught that has burnt a endless number of hours on this debate on the Croatian Language. This is in the spirit of Wikipedia - as this should be inclusive not exclusive of differing and valid opinions. Vodomar ( talk) 02:14, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
I'm going with 2. Anyway, unfortunately it was hard to separate fluff from actual sourced information in those long talk pages, but I created a bare-bones statement of fact attempt here. The EU was rather disappointing, it was happy to call Bosnian a standard of Serbo-croatian, but shied away from stating Croatian or Serbian were the same language, saying only they were closely related. I pulled the sources directly off the talk pages, with the assumption they say what editors said what they said in the talk page if I couldn't access/understand them. I'll alert Flopy and Ivan to the sandbox, hopefully they'll be able to add better sources for both opinions in southcentralslavicdialectsystemserbocroatianBCS. Chipmunkdavis ( talk) 12:10, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Not to be picky Kwami, but you should undo your change to the Croatian language article. It's not fair if the rest of us can't edit :( Chipmunkdavis ( talk) 10:12, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Okay, well, it is done as best as I can now. I was struggling to find a title, so feel free to suggest a better one. I tried best to explain both views, and my intent is to directly copy paste it into the article as its own level two section. Chipmunkdavis ( talk) 02:37, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
I have been observed that you have changed Ganga -> Ganges in many articles. In some articles, Ganga ( Ganges in Hinduism) is used as denoting the goddess of the river, where the word Ganga is the right word. Please check the context before mechanically replacing the term using AWB. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Yogesh, sometimes the commonly known names change - Peking is now Beijing and most folk can relate Mumbai to Bombay. But the thing is, it's a retroactive step to introduce these into dictionaries and encyclopaedias; they don't prescribe new words, they list "what's out there in common use". Now it may be that in *India* people know what Ganga refers to but in terms of global English, I must concur with kwami. Without context, my first guess would have been weed (see Ganga (disambiguation)), with context, I might have guessed at Ganges but wouldn't have been sure. One day, when as many people abroad use Ganga for Ganges, same as they do Beijing, then fine, but not until then. And I suspect that might not happen, Mumbai and Beijing are cities that are permanently in the news. The Ganges/Ganga just doesn't crop up often enough for that to happen I feel. Akerbeltz ( talk) 14:38, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
There is no scope for ambiguity with internal links provided. The river's Indian name is not only Ganga, but also that is what it is called in English too in India and the subcontinent, hundereds of millions of English users. There is a clear understanding in Wikipedia that the subject should govern the style of spelling of the article. Chapekar brothers is an Indian subject and so uses Indian spellings including for proper nouns. I have provided proof that Indian publications like Times of India, Hindustan Times, the government, others use Ganga, for hundreds of millions of Indians Ganga leaves no scope for any ambiguity? Many times Britishers pronounced Gandhi Ghandi, should that spelling be used. There are many instances for that spelling too. [6] Germany is called Germany by the Germans in English, India is called India by Indians in English, the river is called Ganga by Indians in English. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 14:52, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
The issue is while there appears to be consensus that Tibetan, Burmese, Tangut, Newar etc. are related langauges the position of Sinitic is controversial. Matisoff says Sinitic and Tibeto-Burman are two branches of Sino-Tibetan. Van Driem rejects this and regards Sinitic as just another branch of Tibeto-Burman. Laurent Sagart, Guillaume Jacques and probably most people working in France agree in essence with van Driem, but prefer to call the family 'Sino-Tibetan' rather than Tibeto Burman. (The Chinese linguists for political reasons see Daic and Hmong-Mian as other branches along with Sinitic and TB in ST.) My objection is that the introductory summary should not give preference to any one of these views, and it was giving preference to Matisoff's. Tibetologist ( talk) 06:38, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
The unsourced thing in your map is linguistic situation in Plav municipality. My map is made completely in accordance with data from listed sources, while your map does not provide a source that would claim that people in Plav are speakers of Bosnian. PANONIAN 11:10, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Are you sure that you aren't edit warring in turn? This doesn't appear to me to be a clear case of vandalism. -- SarekOfVulcan ( talk) 16:55, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi kwamikagami,
Is it maybe time to call WP: Duck on the obvious supriyya sock currently disrupting Linguistics? I'm not getting involved this time in the discussion, and on-going edit war because I have better things to do with my time, but I've been watching from the sidelines and think that the evidence is mounting from the content of this user's edits, the games the user is playing, and the style of editing (e.g. making an edit, being reverted and then accusing the reverter of not following a non-existent consensus) all reveal the pattern we've seen with Supriyya and all her socks. Maunus tried to do a check user but all the old socks were stale so they wouldn't do it. Nevertheless, I think maybe WP: Duck is in order. Comhreir ( talk) 16:10, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kwami, I noticed you added a merge template back into Hyderabadi Urdu after I removed it. When I get bored I have a have a go at the Merge backlog. I have no interest one way or the other if they are merged and my knowledge on the topic is too limited to make an argument either way. However, I read through the discussion and there were four comments opposed to the merge and none supporting it. If you do think the articles should be merged (you seem pretty knowledgeable on languages) I was hoping you wouldn't mind putting a comment as to why under the discussion. That way if it stays there for three more years it will be easier to decide what to do for a lay person like myself. Cheers AIRcorn (talk) 07:49, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi just noticed your various Entiat (tribe) -> Entiat tribe and the like. The problem with this is the dual meaning of "tribe" in American English, with one meaning referring to the governments of various reservations. In the Canadian model, with one or two exceptions I can think of ( Tlowitsis Tribe, which is a government, vs Tlowitsis which is teh actual people)., the normal "dab" is "people", as in Nicola people or Okanagan people, though in many cases the endonym is used ( Secwepemc, Shishalh for the people, without "people", while the normative linguistic/English usage is generally used for the language (e.g. Squamish language). Anyway, there's quite a contrast between the Entiat and, for example, the Colvilles. "Colville tribe" would tend to refer to the Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation, and NB there was no historical "Colville people" in the singular sense; the Colville Reservation contains the remnants of various peoples, including the core Okanagan group; a Canadian example would be Cowichan peoples (vs Cowichan Tribes, which is a government). A further issue of concern is that there remain un-split articles where governments are covered on the same article as ethno history (e.g. Muckleshoot Tribe, I think). The prevalence of "tribe" in US English to mean band organizations tends against it being used for ethnographic peoples, like teh Entiat or other peoples who do not have tribal organizations (currently or in the past) or who are part of larger confederacies such as those at Colville and Grand Ronde....consistency in these matters has long been wanting, I just wanted to point out the discrepancies/issues.....i.e. of using "tribe" vs "people", an d also note that many sources might play loosey-goosey with "Nation", capitalized or otherwise (capitalized in Canada tends to mean a government, though poeple will still use it for e.g. the Nlaka'pamux Nation, but taht as a term formally excludes most of the Nlaka'pamux (Thompson) population because of its political overtones. One article title that for a long time has been needing resolution is Mohawk nation, small-n.... Mohawk people and Mohawk (tribe) currently, I think, redirect there...NB "Mohawk Nation" is a government..... Skookum1 ( talk) 07:28, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Here are the articles I've moved (or in a few cases maybe just edited today):
Here are the ones on my list I haven't moved yet (just adding a 'p' for 'people', '-' for 'keep', etc. would be enough - you don't need to spell it out)
There are also a few "X tribe"s that I've skipped over w/o change that aren't on this list; I can post them as well if you like. These are all listed somewhere under Category:Native American tribes by state, so they don't address Canada etc., and maybe some US peoples that didn't get listed by state. I can easily expand the search if you like; if I have your judgement to go on, I could do it quickly. — kwami ( talk) 07:47, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Could you unlock Template:Countries of Asia? I wish to edit it per the argument I put forward here on the 19th which has received no response, which per WP:SILENCE I'm going to assume is consensus. Unfortunately, it was fully locked for some random reason two years ago, so I can't change it. If there's something else I should do now and you can't unlock per some policy, then it'd be could if you could just direct me to that. Thanks. Chipmunkdavis ( talk) 14:35, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Apparently the Republic Srpska considers Bosnian to be a dialect of the Croatian language. Also, Serb politicians have been using "Croatisms" (word of the day there). Funfunfun Chipmunkdavis ( talk) 02:37, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Kwamikagami. Has it occured to you that you're involved in the topics that are covered by
WP:ARBMAC?
E.g,, here
[9] you've deleted {{citation needed}} on the article
Serbo-Croatian. Was that difficult to insert the inline citation? You know, the page and the line that speaks about that? Kwamikagami, we need sources and citations, not honorable scouts word.
E.g., this change on article
Croatian language is not the seeking consensus or compromise. In some parts, you've inserted wrong information (that the official language of Croatia is Serbo-Croatian). It never was.
Also you don't know the problem of Church Slavonic and its importance for the development of Slavic languages
[10]. Read Brozović's work, there's explanation there. If you like Britannica, why don't you read it? Britannica speaks explicitly and solely about Croatian Church Slavonic.
Kwamikagami, have you ever seen how many times does your name appears here
[11] with the words "(Reverted edits by (your opponent)...." "(Undid revision .... by (your opponent)". Kwamikagami, you're not right by default.
E.g., here. Your edit here
[12] on the article
South Slavic languages is the example of rude vandalism. You deleted the whole referenced sections. You deleted the line about Kajkavian Ikavians, you deleted the info about New and Old Shtokavian accentuation. Your version is full of nonexisting terms (e.g., you deleted "East" from "East Herzegovina" - so which one is that "Herzegovina dialect"?; e.g. you invented "ikavian subdialect of Štokavian"...). Where were your sources for those deletions and where were sources for your inventions (
WP:OR)?
E.g. the article
[13]
Differences between standard Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian. You have inserted your map
[14] that's your personal POV. Serbian user (PANONIAN) gave you reference that proves you wrong. You gave objection "the second objection is falsification of census results because map is made to reflect census results.".
You've also been involved on the template {{
South Slavic languages sidebar}}
[15]. Bunch of reverts, unappropriate expressions in edit summaries
[16], plus indefinite protection
[17], false allegations of consensus
[18] (since users disagreed on that, see history).
Further, you've heavily
WP:INVOLVED yourself in the article
Croatian grammar. You've protected the article on your version
[19] indefinitely. You've been reverting the opponents' versions. See how many times your edits were
[20] "reverted edits by (your opponent)", "undid revision by (your opponent). You've ignored the argumentation on the talkpage
Talk:Croatian grammar.
For engaging in articles that fall under the ruling of
WP:ARBMAC, user Knepferle posted following notification of WP:ARBMAC
[21]. Only in your case, that diff would be somehow widened and it would sound like this:
Repeated blanket reversions, repeatedly and knowingly restoring material with large amounts of poor English and grammatical errors, and repeated introduction of material rejected by consensus all fall below the expected standards of behaviour at this project.
Admin Courcelles suggested me to file
WP:AE. I'm not calling for revolution, arbitration, request for this/that... I've just wanted that you get the proper information, just as it has been hte case with any other involved user on those topics. Bye,
Kubura (
talk) 02:43, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Were you aware of this? Note under the detailed description: "Source: Wikipedia". It even includes "free updates". -- Taivo ( talk) 20:19, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Now that you've moved Zulu to Zulu people and moved the disambiguation page to Zulu, please don't forget to WP:FIXDABLINKS. At a minimum, it would have been an excellent idea to have changed the link at the top of the disambiguation page so that it pointed to the article you moved. -- R'n'B ( call me Russ) 10:20, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
I'm probably just not getting it - why is this robot forever changing [22] the ISO1 code for Manx Gaelic to the ISO2/3 code for North Frisian? Akerbeltz ( talk) 10:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Is this covered anywhere else in Wikipedia besides the article on famous phrase "a language is a dialect ..."? There are some more general sources, e.g. [23] Tijfo098 ( talk) 12:24, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey thats nice of you to lock Chinguacousy Secondary School to protect it from vandalism but the information is out of date. I'd like to make note that Russell Peters attended Chinguacousy in grades 9 & 10. Also the current Principal is Karen Hobbins, not Jan Courtin. Sources: school website & attendance at the institution. Shamandalie27 ( talk) 21:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Alright I didn't know about the 3 day thing. 174.93.123.246 ( talk) 03:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Dear Kwamikagami, I do not think that your redirect IPA-bg => IPA-mk is appropriate, both in principle and as particular application (e.g in Tryavna Peak). Apcbg ( talk) 12:12, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
I caught your message at the help desk and was just having a look when I saw you'd fixed it. But notice that your templates have placed the Alveolar approximant article into Category:Consonant templates, so something must be wrong with the template definitions. I think the "category" call needs to be hidden inside <noinclude> ... </noinclude> - see Help:Noinclude -- John of Reading ( talk) 17:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
All three templates now also take a 2nd unnamed parameter for "showsymbol=". I have documented it, without a preference, both inputs are accepted. Please drop a note when something strange appears. - DePiep ( talk) 11:03, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Instead of going on in an edition war, I’ d rather discuss with you first.
You did remove the slashes, but it seems that it is an error in formatting. Another user has noticed that, and corrected it. I can understand the usage of the template, but what I don’t understand is why you are insistingly putting asterisks before the original words. Is it some rule defined here in Wikipedia?
Thanks
Ten Islands ( talk) 11:19, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I'm looking at these and thinking they're prose templates, i.e., violations of WP:Template namespace. Your thoughts? -- Pi zero ( talk) 13:43, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
I am having some difficulty with an editor who does not seem to understand or accept that Folk etymology is a well defined term in historical linguistics. Can you recommend to what discussion board I should take this matter if it becomes necessary? I will watch this space, you can respond to me here. Thanks. μηδείς ( talk) 04:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi kwami. This edit introduced an error in the lead: the IPAblink template doesn't recognize [kˀ]. I'm not sure how to fix it myself, so I thought I'd let you know. -- JorisvS ( talk) 10:20, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I plan to improve the template {{ IPAsound}} and related stuff. To me, it is a template -- wiki-technical stuff. Do you have any ideas or itches I could take care of? (IPA POV allowed) - DePiep ( talk) 18:26, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Greetings, K. You posted the following at my talkp-age: You have reached WP:3RR at Folk etymology. If you continue edit warring, you will be blocked. If you do not think you can get justice on the talk page, please pursue WP:RFC or other avenues of dispute resolution. — kwami ( talk) 01:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Explain yourself. Itis you and Medeis who are edit warring (in his case canvassing as well) and this now constitutes harassment and hounding. Go through those ediuts and edit dates again. Andthen by all means take things up at WP:ANI. This conduct is really out of line. DavidOaks ( talk) 01:52, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
You have reached WP:3RR at Charles Hapgood. Please stop edit warring and take it to Talk, or I will report you to WP:ANI. It is you who have violated WP:3RR and were aske dto go to discussion but instead you give me a warning and revert the edit. A discussion has been started-do not revert this edit again until a consensus has been reached. Thanos5150 ( talk) 02:00, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
I've posted a note at WP:ANI. As you are engaged in the discussion, you may want to follow things there. DavidOaks ( talk) 02:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Please, see Template talk:IPA-arz. -- Mahmudmasri ( talk) 04:34, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
I'd advise you not to edit this article today (of course you can use the talk page). I'll check the issue myself, but you are at 3RR I believe and I'm sure you don't want to go over that. I try never to go past 2. If you edit again today I wouldn't be surprised if you were blocked and given that Thanos has been blocked it would be reasonable if you were blocked. Please don't take offense at this, just try and make sure you don't even give the appearance of edit warring. Dougweller ( talk) 07:59, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately, there was no distinct letter J in the ancient Roman alphabet ("J" was at best a non-distinctive swash glyph variant of "I"), but your edits imply that there was... AnonMoos ( talk) 11:47, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
User:Attilios unilaterally moved this page (see [27]), without debate or reference to the fact that's not the format for most provinces (also ignoring Gipuzkoa and Biscay in the same cat). I left a message on his page but he's not answering. Do you reckon you could move it back before grass grows on it? Akerbeltz ( talk) 12:55, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Re this, are you sure? My experience with French-looking British noble names is they might not be pronounced as they are in French. For all we know, this might be La-BOO-sher or some other curious Britishism (e.g. "Beauchamp" - "Beecham" in British). Skookum1 ( talk) 19:08, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Procedural question I guess. There's a creeping Movanification of the etymology aspects which keep trying to make out that Basque is a substratum language for Sardinina. Chief culprit are users who think that Michel Morvan's web dictionary is a reliable source [28] (the usual comparison of surface form sh*** and ignoring of historical phonology... But I'm definitely fighting a loosing battle there; a quick look on wikis in other languages makes me really feel like there's someone close to Morvan who's trying to push his career by inserting as many links to his name/dictionary on Wikipedia as possible (see edits by User:BANTASAN such as [29] or [30]. I'm not asking you to sort this but I'm unsure of what to do as it's only marginally my area of expertise and doesn't seem to fall into any obvious problem category. Part of the problem is that fringe stuff like Morvan is so easy to come up with and then it take a long time for someone to bother taking it apart in a publication, ultimately making Wikipedia a platform for their junk. Akerbeltz ( talk) 13:09, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! I'm right now attempting an over-all polishing-up of the article Tahash (making notes first) and saw your recent IPA edit. I'm still so new to Wikipedia participating (about two weeks) that I didn't know about the template you used to such good effect. So thanks for pitching in there. -- Michael Paul Heart ( talk) 06:09, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami. As a favour, could you please take a look at the IPA rendering of the pronunciation of Tumbulgum. A folk pronunciation can be found at [31]—"proun. tum-BULgim not tumble-gum". Cheers, Mattinbgn ( talk) 08:50, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
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One more will be a violation of 3RR. I recommend against it. - Lisa ( talk - contribs) 12:25, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
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I am dismayed that no action is being taken at the ANI complaint. We now have a recruited editor arguing that there is academic bias against folkloristics just as might be expected given the targeted canvassing. It would seem highly inappropriate to recruit a dozen linguists. I am loath even to file any noticeboard requests. Can you suggest the proper thing to do to move the article discussion toward sources and away from rule by a recruited mob? And do you think perhaps my complaint against the canvasser was filed in the wrong place? μηδείς ( talk) 06:52, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Upon refiling the complaint for canvassing one editor seemed to think I was accusing him of conspiring with DavidOaks and an admin assumed Oaks was notifying interested parties from all fields. They have reopened the complaint for comments here. An opinion on the nonsilliness of the issue there would be helpful. μηδείς ( talk) 05:06, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi! I realized I should have written you a note; your recent AWB edit to fix the IPA in Christian seems to have removed the IPA pronounciation entirely. I'm guessing that was not intentional, so I undid the edit, but figured I should let you know. Thanks!
-- Joren ( talk) 20:15, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
This edit [32] did not fix any IPA. However, it broke one of the reference templates by deleting a pair of closing braces. — Carl ( CBM · talk) 12:34, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing the IPA on Mel Tjeerdsma. Jweiss11 ( talk) 17:52, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
I appreciate you adding the pronunciations of lemur names in Malagasy to the various lemur articles. I'm not very skilled at using IPA, so it's a huge help! However, we need to be careful about the use of some of the names. The biggest problem comes from the word maky. In Malagasy, maky has multiple meanings. Technically, it's the most commonly used name in the south and west for the Ring-tailed Lemur. Around Isalo, I know it's called hira. Unfortunately, maky is also used by some to refer to lemurs in general... probably due to the Ring-tailed Lemur being the national icon. However, official Malagasy (as taught in Tana) dictates that the proper word for lemur is gìdro. Some sources also list the word for lemur as babakoto... even rajako and ankomba. In the case of babakoto, that is also the name for the Indri, while gìdro also refers to some true lemurs. So, as you can see, the word for lemur depends not only on the dialect, but also on what tourist-drawing lemur comes to mind first.
For now, I'm going to remove the change to the Lemur article because it may require an paragraph of explanation to properly cover. (We also can't use Wiki to push one name over another.) Also, don't take offense if I shift things around a bit or do other clean-up with your edits. Best, – VisionHolder « talk » 22:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Sounds good. You're the expert in this area, not I. – VisionHolder « talk » 01:21, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello Kwamikagami,
Most of your IPA transcription were good, but you made many errors in accentuation and in palatalization of consonants, you dropped when you shouldn't, but you made some errors in transcripting names and consonants, for example, you forgot to put deformations (palatal, labial, voiceless a) on some articles ( [33], [34]) and you added unessential vowels (in Tsiroanomandidy) and/or inexistent consonant (as ʃ which don't exist at all (maybe you have confused this with the palatalized /sj/) or tʃ where th nearest phoneme is tr (Malagasy pronunciation: [ʈʂ])). Now, most of them have been fixed by me.
I'm also using a different sign when noting voiceless a. According to you, the voiceless a is ə̥ but in the article about malagasy language, I have noted them /a/ because the voiceless a is between the "open schwa" (ɐ) and the "real schwa", but it is voiceless and its pronunciations can change from one region to another (lightly, however) ; I followed your standards because I am not a linguist and I don't know if you are a linguist.
Best regards from France.
-- Jagwar - (( talk )) 14:03, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
I've noticed that you have changed the pronunciation on the Murray, Utah article twice. I just wanted to let you know that Utah English pronounces Murray with the NURSE vowel, not the STRUT vowel. Ntsimp ( talk) 06:03, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Great work on the IPA-mg and WP:IPA for Malagasy. You turned that around so quickly, it's wonderful. I'd love to give you a barnstar - I've heard people talk about that but I don't actually know how to do it. Let me see if I can figure it out! - Lemurbaby ( talk) 11:28, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
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I'm sure you've noticed it, but something got screwed up with your talk page's formatting a couple of sections ago. I looked at the coding around the point where it happened, but couldn't see anything. But I'm not an expert in wikicodes. -- Taivo ( talk) 13:04, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
What's going on here? Are we now transcribing the happY vowel with ɪ instead of i? —Angr ( talk) 08:25, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
You've been asked before, several times, politely, to remember to WP:FIXDABLINKS when you create a new disambiguation page or redirect an article title to an existing disambiguation page. Within the past 24 hours, you've done it again with Quechua and Aymara. I'm assuming good faith, and I'm assuming that these moves were justified. However, each of them left hundreds of incorrect links behind. You did not even check for use of these links in templates, or in redirects such as Aymara ethnic group where the need to fix the links was most obvious. If you are going to make changes to Wikipedia, you should at least make sure that you are not making the encyclopedia less accurate and less useful. Before your changes, all the links to Quechua and Aymara at least took readers to a relevant article; now they do not. Please refrain from creating big messes like this and leaving them for others to clean up. Thank you. -- R'n'B ( call me Russ) 11:26, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
You can delete thge talk page as well, I have copied its contents to folk etymology. μηδείς ( talk) 18:18, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
You have been very decent with me in that you did not put up administrator airs , inspite of the long ping-pong battle we had. I do not want to jump to conclusions. Please do not take it otherwise, but what is this [35]]? Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 18:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
What do you want to say with spurious IPA ? You also know Middle Chinese#Reconstructed phonology. You mustn't use the word such as spurious. Maybe you prefer Bernhard Karlgren to Wan Li. Anyway it is not important for me which system we prefer. Thank you. Takabeg ( talk) 07:02, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami. I have been working on Samoan language to try and clean it up after a plea for help from User:Teinesavaii. I am stuck on the Grammar section (haven't even started looking at Phonology and the rest). The problem is that the material has been taken from a 1890s grammar which doesn't make much sense at all. It had a lot of case stuff (a la Latin/Greek) which I have tried to reduce. Any chance you could take a look and give us some advice? Kahuroa ( talk) 22:46, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Rather than go round and round on the Ganges/Ganga issue, your expert skills are probably better spent on improving the IndE article itself, which is in a rather poor state right now. Tijfo098 ( talk) 12:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Just a heads up of where the influx of Croatian editors came from and their mentality: [38] -- ◅PRODUCER ( TALK) 23:32, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
I take issue with being the only protagonist being warned for engaging in an Edit War in regards to Roentgenium. Perhaps you are just warning me because you disagree with me?
I have attempted to reach a compromise position, and that is represented in the history for the page with my good faith edits trying to take into account the other side's objections. The other side refuses to engage in the meat of the discussion as to whether the edit that I (and another) have attempted to put forward.
Instead of swooping in on talk pages of protagonists with whom you (apparently?) disagree, why don't you contribute to the discussion?
Danjel ( talk) 08:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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- "See WP:RS and this post. There were dozens such "discoveries" in the field of new elements. Cheers. Materialscientist ( talk) 03:12, 3 December 2010 (UTC)"
- Sorry, my class arrived as I was editting up your page. Should have been more detailed (and should have signed!).
- The validity or non-validity of the claim isn't at issue. My edit stated that the claim has been made, and quoted a reliable source (arXiv /is/ a reliable source for science news).
Sorry, I haven’t understood [39]: what exactly needs clarification? Thanks. Ten Islands ( talk) 09:21, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Although I have talked to you before, you continue messing up articles containing Semitic transcription. Semitic is transcribed in various ways. I know you only know one system and you think everybody uses it, but this is not true. The way you're trying to force your rather limited knowledge in Semitic linguistics on every article is childish. STOP IT.-- HD86 ( talk) 13:01, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
The transcription systems used in the articles I wrote are not "bastards." They are quite common transcription systems. They look bastards ONLY to YOU because you haven't seen them before. Try to remember well this time.-- HD86 ( talk) 15:20, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
First of all, this is not a "combined use of symbols from romanized transcription and IPA." Second, before arguing one should read first about the subject. Here's, I googled a reference for you:
http://www.lingfil.uu.se/afro/semitiska/forskarutbildning/transcription-of-arabicEN.pdf
See page 7 where it says:
This is not the first time I discuss this subject, but the gentleman does not even remember talking to me. This is a problem.-- HD86 ( talk) 15:46, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Please concentrate. This statement by you is WRONG:
Where did you see that in the source? The source never says anything about IPA. Try to read carefully. As for the rest of your talk, I don't care what your personal opinions are. You can keep them for yourself. The symobles I used in the srticle are quite commonly used by specialists and they are very suitable. I need a worthy opinion that says otherwise to reconsider them.-- HD86 ( talk) 16:12, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Why do you keep adding a stress indicator (') to "Thicke". It is superfluous and not to be used, since the name has only one syllable. Aikclaes ( talk) 18:24, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
FYI that the above was filed. I rejected it because it is clearly unsuitable for formal mediation, but be aware that the request was filed, and please note also my comments in the "Decision of the Mediation Committee" section. Regards, AGK 00:01, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Please make sure to leave a GA quality summary of the main article in situ in the phonology section. Also why do you consider that to be a content fork? ·Maunus·ƛ· 22:22, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Kwami.
Regarding your recent changes. Although they're very neat and elegant (a good thing), the IPAslink template has broken half of the links, in that they now go to the generic Aspiration article instead of the perfectly valid articles for the actual sounds (the only sound without its own article being the aspirated velar affricate).
Is this Eurocentric myopia a known soon-to-be-fixed limitation of IPAslink? Because otherwise I'll have to revert your well-intentioned edits.
Tebello TheWHAT!!?? 05:28, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
HI Kwamigakami. In the article on Proof (truth) I noticed your judgment of "Even in mathematics there is no fixed criterion for sufficiency; for example an experienced mathematician may find a short demonstration of a theorem sufficient where a novice would need more details" as being "nonsensical". As an experienced mathematician myself, having worked in the field for forty years, I am puzzled why you would find this "nonsensical" given that it is very true, not to mention very obvious to any experienced practitioner of mathematics. Are you an experienced mathematician yourself? Or do you have some other basis for making this judgment that allows you to override the judgment of experienced mathematicians in such matters? -- Vaughan Pratt ( talk) 06:54, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Kwami, I don't understand the changes you made to the Google Scholar results. Could you explain? -- JN 466 12:28, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Kwami, my honest advice in the Ganga/Ganges matter is the following: just leave them. "Our side" presented its argument already and we voted according to their conscience. We did our duty.
"Their side" is simply preaching and are focused in always having the last word in any argumentation whatsoever. If that includes denying that the name Ganga is simply virtually unknown outside of the Indian subcontinent so be it. If that includes denying that there are more British and American English-speakers (both using Ganges) than Indian-speakers in this planet, so be it.
It is simply better to leave this issue to the very-late administrator (I wish him good luck). I will be surprised if he rules in favour of Ganga but even if this happens (probably due political and political correct reasons) at least I can be sure that I'm innocent. Just leave them to their preaching. Flamarande ( talk) 15:45, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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I was by this article tonight and happened to glance at the IPA, which seems to indicate a diphthong on the second syllable, and while I've heard Americans pronounce it that way, with a schwa in the diphthong, it should be remembered that the British pronunciation, as I remember it frmo my British Victorian friends, is much more of a clear "o", emphatically so, and this has played out in the inherited local pronunciation. Maybe it's the same on Queen Victoria's article, though; it just struck me as odd-looking, or derived from somebody with slangy, younger pronunciation. Skookum1 ( talk) 08:12, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Somebody just created this [40] map, introducing an artificial geographical differentiation that no wiki seems to support. Plus he's started replacing existing maps with it. As it's an issue that affects several wikis and commons, I'm not sure where to raise this issue. Any suggestions? Akerbeltz ( talk) 15:13, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
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For your contributions to File:IPA chart 2005.png (better seen in the English Wikipedia logs since the move to Commons). In taking linguistics courses as an undergraduate, having a printout-size and easy-to-find IPA reference was indispensable. I will probably be finding printouts of this file mixed in with my college papers for decades to come; that's just how often I used it. —/ Mendaliv/ 2¢/ Δ's/ 22:31, 7 December 2010 (UTC) |
I believe you just expanded the unicode on a number of Etruscan words. Now in the list of Etruscan words all the unicode words are a bit larger than the others, and in a different font, e.g. θesan vs. tin-. Looks kind of weird! Should we a) add the unicode template (if that's the right word) to all of them - or am I using the wrong fonts? Thanks. Jpaulm ( talk) 02:11, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Do you happenstance have a source for this Al Hamalain/Hemelein Prima somewhere? Rursus dixit. ( mbork3!) 12:43, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
I just found your fix-it page. I had a bunch of links above; I'm moving them to User:Rursus/star_name_desinformation. — kwami ( talk) 21:20, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
I just wanted to point out that while this list is definitely interesting on its own merits, it has next to nothing to do with the topic of the article it has been added to (Geography of Russia). Do you think it could be moved to a more appropriate location and linked to from this articles instead? Cheers,— Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • ( yo?); December 9, 2010; 21:59 (UTC)
I just wanted to let you know that one of your comments has been included (and attributed to you) as part of my Nuggets of Wiki Wisdom . Thanks, and if you object then let me know :o) Redthoreau -- ( talk) 07:19, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
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Blatantly stating "the English is poor" doesn't prove anything nor does restoring wrong grammar support that opinion. Also, the "substantial change" regarding the Holy War exists, please verify it through my justifications in discussion page and fix the citation necessarily instead of deleting it. -- Truflip99 ( talk) 14:55, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
I think you are very wise linguistically :)
I would need your help as there is an edit war on the Valencian language article.
It seems there is not an agreement to classify Catalan and Valencian. This is pretty ambiguous and unclear as there are linguists who think it should be included with the Gallo-Romance language, while many others with the Ibero-Romance languages. How shall we classify both Catalan and Valencian?
In my opinion Catalan is a transitional language, Ibero-Romance, due to lexical influence from Arabic/Mozarabic, akin to Portuguese and Spanish. And Gallo-Romance language, due to common lexical roots from latin with these languages. But this is not a very proper assertion. What is it then? :D
Also, the Spanish and Catalan Wikipedia as AVL and IEC, agree Catalan and Valencian are the same linguistic system, despite indivual and political thoughts. How can this be applied on the English Wikipedia? Thank you in advance :D Jaume87 ( talk) 20:53, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
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— kwami ( talk) 00:39, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi; just discovered this while tidying up; is there a standard tag I can add to draw your attention to these? If possible not just IPA but some more English-speaker friendly alternative I know is out there; BCGNIS actually often provides pronunciation of this kind, but not in IPA (which if I ever get hired by them, I'll try and change). Skookum1 ( talk) 22:47, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
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"Tone letter" explicitly refers to IPA, but has no clear description about that. To me: I'd expect an IPA-overview and, being me, a Unicode list. Probably a separate section. Am I right? - DePiep ( talk) 01:19, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi given your linguistic background and recent invovelemnt, I thought you may be interest in improving the article using this [42]. Thanks-- Khodabandeh14 ( talk) 00:56, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami, I think you made an error in your recent revert in the IPA for Hindi-Urdu article driven by misunderstandings caused by allophony. I want to discuss this a bit. Please take a peek at its talk page and respond. Thanks! - Hunnjazal ( talk) 05:27, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
What if we changed the name of List of Solar System objects in hydrostatic equilibrium to List of Solar System statistics, and simply stated in the intro that hydrostatic equilibrium was a requirement for inclusion? Serendi pod ous 23:50, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps your wording wasn't perfect, but it suggested that Macedonian is a variety of Serbo-Croatian. FYI, the standard varieties of Serbo-Croatian are Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin (which is arguably still in a process of codification). -- 124.169.79.79 ( talk) 06:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
User_talk:R3ap3R.inc#Not_good_faith. Personally, I think you might have acted a bit too fast, but I haven't thoroughly examined the issue. The phrasing in the article is misleading, and I agree with the revert, but not sure about the block. / ƒETCH COMMS / 01:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Looking at the edit in question in a little more detail, here is what I see that verifies "Terms used to describe the Khoisan people include monkey":
It looks like the first part is right, but it is not explained in context that the term monkey was used in a pejorative manner (as clearly shown in the one reference above).
There is another issue with regards to the next part of that contested edit: referring to Khoisan haplotypes 1A and the structure of their λ-DNA segments → with sources that point to scientific papers which mention nothing about he Khoisan tribe. I don't know how you folks interpret this, but one can conclude that synthesis of sources is going on, trying to link DNA evidence as to why the Khoisan were being referred to as monkeys some time ago.
As far as the block is concerned, I don't know if I see "falsification of refs"; at the worst, there is WP:SYN going on. I find it too significant of a stretch to call this "racist vandalism", as I don't think that was the intention (also, keep in mind, Wikipedia is not censored).
Hence, I recommend unblocking and explaining to the user what he may not be doing correctly. – MuZemike 02:22, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I've unblocked this editor as it seems that they made an honest mistake in reverting an edit they believed to be vandalism but in fact reintroduced vandalism to the article. I don't think this was their intent and I see nothing in their history that would make me think otherwise, so I've unblocked. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 03:03, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
I just noticed that you had moved some but not all the articles on Inuit languages. For example Inuinnaqtun and Kangiryuarmiutun but not Inuktitut or Inuvialuktun. However, given that they are unique names shouldn't Wikipedia:Naming conventions (languages) apply? Inuinnaqtun/Kangiryuarmiutun/Inuvialuktun is the language and Inuinnaq/Kangiryuarmiut/Inuvialuit are the people. Cheers. Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 11:41, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I may not have understood what you are trying to tell me, but I understand that you see some "standard(s)(?)" of IPA notation violated. You writing gives me the impression of you being an IPA expert, which I am not. I do not understand, what you think is wrong, so it may be helpful to explain that, but independent of the peculiarities of quoting a source which is a source. In the book, they make some remarks on their use of IPA which may nourish suspicions that they went to a "broader than broad" transcription. Being a native Colognian speaker, and being used to half a dozen different language dictionaries using IPA transcriptions, I feel able to check the transcriptions in the book. I found some which I would have made differently.
I have few more questions, but I am running out of time for now. Thank you. -- Purodha Blissenbach ( talk) 11:42, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
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Hi; I just happened to be staying in Clare, of which Saulnierville is one of the component communities; there's a non-IPA pronunciation item on this page, and likely on other articles in the same grouping (Clare#Communities). Please note that the pronunciation should be in Acadian French, and may vary from "regular" Canadian French ( Quebec French). Skookum1 ( talk) 15:19, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Why are you and Erutuon ripping out content to make Diaeresis into a disambig? Please don't forget WP:FIXDABLINKS. -- JaGa talk 10:13, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
I generally marvel at your treatment of IPA transcriptions (although I sometimes think a simpler set of IPA characters would help readers more), occasionally I'm baffled. In this edit at Carnival in Germany, Switzerland and Austria, you twice represented an "n" (as in November) with a double-character rendered as m̩: "Fastelavend" = [ˈfastl̩.ˌɒːvm̩t] and "Fastelabend" = [ˈfastl̩.ˌɒːbm̩t]. With some enlargement, I can make out that there is a small dot below the "m", a symbol that I can't find in the International Phonetic Alphabet. I assume it's some kind of modifier. Now, when I listen to myself pronouncing these words, I can't detect any hint of "m" – my lips never close. To me, it's very clearly an "n", just like it is in the root of those words, German: Abend (evening). What does m̩ mean? Curious, Michael Bednarek ( talk) 03:32, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
I notice that you have added the categories non-Min and Ping-Yue to the [Pinghua] page, the categories used should be representative. There are many non's which describe Pinghua, why not say non-hakka? The dividing of Chinese into Min and non-Min then sub-dividing is not a system classification supported by the majority of linguists, the number of speakers of Min is less than 10% of all Chinese speakers, and as such should not be included as if it were a widely accepted convention. The classification of Ping-Yue has some linguist justification, though the categorization should be applied throughout but it is not use in say [Taishanese]. However the use of Ping-Yue on the pages which at present say Yue would lead to many objections, because whilst it has some justification it is not widely accepted convention, which suggests the correct place for information on the relationship between Pinghua and Yue is within the article itself, not a side panel. Johnkn63 ( talk) 13:25, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Hello Kwami, I was debating with User:本本一世 on the creditbility of his sources, in section "Population figure citation?" of Sichuanese Mandarin talk page. Can you come and offer a 3rd perspective? -- LLTimes ( talk) 21:03, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Do you still think Jupiter trojan and the like should have lower-case 't'? I do. Rothorpe ( talk) 00:42, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I've commented there. Glad you agree. Rothorpe ( talk) 02:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi! You recently moved the Music of Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky page. I don't know if you noticed, but there was a move discussion going on on the talk page. The discussion actually favoured the target where you moved the article so no problem there, but apparently you forgot to move the talk page of the article, leaving it at Talk:Music of Pyotr Il'yich Tchaikovsky. I've moved the talk page to the correct location now. Also, when you move an article after a move discussion, could you also close the discussion by at least removing the {{ movereq}} tag on the talk page so that people know that the request has been already actioned? Anyway thanks for your work :) Regards, Jafeluv ( talk) 05:34, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Our discussion has been sort of drowned out by the rapid flow of postings at Talk:Croatian language. I'd like to continue the discussion here (or my talk page, I suppose. You decide). I'm particularly interested in the idea that the ~20 isoglosses that Greenburg provides are irrelevant to language (B/C/S/M) identification. What leads you to assert this? — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi] 04:02, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Sorry Kwami, but the Burgenland Croatian also in Austria, Croatia and Hungary officially language and not dialect. Doncsecz talk 13:44, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
The best way to describe all the languages is by using the diasystem method, and the best uniting name for this is Central South Slavic diasystem. http://books.google.com.au/books?id=geh261xgI8sC&pg=PA518&lpg=PA518&dq=weinrich+diasystem&source=bl&ots=DW062gZ5ip&sig=a-zsU_fwYW3iNvlLzGyiJPGrE3s&hl=en&ei=A8mxTPbAA5OuvgObvImwBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CCkQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q&f=false gives the best reasoning. Serbo-Croatian can be as a separate article describing the history behind this standard, however the way the current languages Croatian, Serbian, Bosnian, Montenegran can be best described through the diasystem method, if you read the pages in the book this makes perfect sense. I would please ask you to reconsider when reverting the edit that I have posted. The Central South Slavic diasystem is used by the European Union. Vodomar ( talk) 14:34, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Wait till 2011 I guess. Kwami, just break out the big impressive book of languages you have and just source Vodomar's citation needed's, may as well leave them rather then getting into an edit war over citation tags! It is, after all, a C-class article. I'm sure the numerous sources thrown around in various discussions contain enough to provide some sources for what remains. Chipmunkdavis ( talk) 15:47, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
I can only empathize with you for trying to keep some resemblance of NPOV in that article and one in the section above. NPOV generally seems a lost cause on Wikipedia in articles that people care deeply about. (I saw your posts on User talk:Courcelles, which I was watching hoping he'd reply on trivial matter than unfortunately requires administrative rights.) Tijfo098 ( talk) 20:01, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, can you kindly check the Pashto dialects new article? Thanks! Khestwol ( talk) 10:18, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Actually, given that it's about a class of things, the plural seems fine by WP:SINGULAR; I feel no need to move it. -- Cybercobra (talk) 08:45, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
That anon IP at Croatian language is probably User:Jack Sparrow 3. Sounds like him, especially the "You don't speak Croatian, you don't have any right here" crap. -- Taivo ( talk) 14:24, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
User:Flopy asked some questions on my talk page and requested that you answer as well. I don't mind if you want to answer on my talk page. -- Taivo ( talk) 21:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, maybe your IPA-trained eye ear might find a hiccup, but I expect you can enjoy listening to my recent
this and
this. -
DePiep (
talk) 22:22, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
hello... I understand if you have some concerns about my addition. I thought it was meaningful, and decent info. I'm a little confused by what you said in your edit (revert) comment, that the edit was "misleading", and "just as it would be to say about English numbers." I'm not totally sure what you mean. Are you saying that Asimov (a giant when it came to understanding things like this) was wrong? Or that Roman numerals can't be scrambled that way, though generally won't be? And "decreasing value" is what's normally done? The point is that it's accurate and good-faith. And according to Wikipedia policy, only actual vandalism or truly inaccurate things, (or totally unrelated things), should be summarily "reverted". Undoing or reverting, per WP recommendation and guidelines, should be done rarely.... And not for good faith accurate edits or additions. I hope we can maybe work something out, or maybe move it or modify my contrib here, instead of just totally removing it. Let me know what you think. And thanks for your attention to this. ResearchRave ( talk) 00:34, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Do you think the title "Differences between Serbo-Croatian standard varieties" would be a more suitable article name than " Differences between standard Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian"? -- ◅PRODUCER ( TALK) 20:18, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi there, there was a request at WP:GL/I to vectorize File:Masses of all moons.png. I was hoping you could direct me to a source that has the numbers you used to create the graph so I can make an accurate vector. Thanks, Shep Talk 22:34, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I'm sorry to disturb you but I need some help about the Swedish pronunciation of Stockholm. The discussion continues here.-- Carnby ( talk) 22:43, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
I speak American* (and so can you!)
*Actually, not.
First off, Kwami, we in the reality-based community are supposed to pretend to take Fox "News" seriously. After all, even the current muslin secular socialist POTUS does.
Well of course Urdu and Hindi are the same language -- but that's an observation from mere common sense, whereas it might be better to say that a language is a dialect with an army and navy; and as we know all too well, both India and Pakistan most certainly do have them, air forces, and even WMDs. (Though it's all a jolly good show.) -- Hoary ( talk) 00:07, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
And certainly a thick mist of silliness does hang over many en:WP articles related the subcontinent. -- Hoary ( talk) 00:52, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Question for you - hopefully an easy one. I created Wikipedia:IPA_for_Manx_Gaelic so we can use the {{IPA-gv formatting as we have for {{IPA-gd etc to direct folk at a more relevant page than just the generic IPA page. But somehow the formatting isn't working (see Cammag for example) - it doesn't look like a redirect that's needed, so I'm doing something wrong but what? Akerbeltz ( talk) 11:05, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
The new definition captures the differing opinions of the two camps of taught that has burnt a endless number of hours on this debate on the Croatian Language. This is in the spirit of Wikipedia - as this should be inclusive not exclusive of differing and valid opinions. Vodomar ( talk) 02:14, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
I'm going with 2. Anyway, unfortunately it was hard to separate fluff from actual sourced information in those long talk pages, but I created a bare-bones statement of fact attempt here. The EU was rather disappointing, it was happy to call Bosnian a standard of Serbo-croatian, but shied away from stating Croatian or Serbian were the same language, saying only they were closely related. I pulled the sources directly off the talk pages, with the assumption they say what editors said what they said in the talk page if I couldn't access/understand them. I'll alert Flopy and Ivan to the sandbox, hopefully they'll be able to add better sources for both opinions in southcentralslavicdialectsystemserbocroatianBCS. Chipmunkdavis ( talk) 12:10, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Not to be picky Kwami, but you should undo your change to the Croatian language article. It's not fair if the rest of us can't edit :( Chipmunkdavis ( talk) 10:12, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Okay, well, it is done as best as I can now. I was struggling to find a title, so feel free to suggest a better one. I tried best to explain both views, and my intent is to directly copy paste it into the article as its own level two section. Chipmunkdavis ( talk) 02:37, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
I have been observed that you have changed Ganga -> Ganges in many articles. In some articles, Ganga ( Ganges in Hinduism) is used as denoting the goddess of the river, where the word Ganga is the right word. Please check the context before mechanically replacing the term using AWB. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Yogesh, sometimes the commonly known names change - Peking is now Beijing and most folk can relate Mumbai to Bombay. But the thing is, it's a retroactive step to introduce these into dictionaries and encyclopaedias; they don't prescribe new words, they list "what's out there in common use". Now it may be that in *India* people know what Ganga refers to but in terms of global English, I must concur with kwami. Without context, my first guess would have been weed (see Ganga (disambiguation)), with context, I might have guessed at Ganges but wouldn't have been sure. One day, when as many people abroad use Ganga for Ganges, same as they do Beijing, then fine, but not until then. And I suspect that might not happen, Mumbai and Beijing are cities that are permanently in the news. The Ganges/Ganga just doesn't crop up often enough for that to happen I feel. Akerbeltz ( talk) 14:38, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
There is no scope for ambiguity with internal links provided. The river's Indian name is not only Ganga, but also that is what it is called in English too in India and the subcontinent, hundereds of millions of English users. There is a clear understanding in Wikipedia that the subject should govern the style of spelling of the article. Chapekar brothers is an Indian subject and so uses Indian spellings including for proper nouns. I have provided proof that Indian publications like Times of India, Hindustan Times, the government, others use Ganga, for hundreds of millions of Indians Ganga leaves no scope for any ambiguity? Many times Britishers pronounced Gandhi Ghandi, should that spelling be used. There are many instances for that spelling too. [6] Germany is called Germany by the Germans in English, India is called India by Indians in English, the river is called Ganga by Indians in English. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 14:52, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
The issue is while there appears to be consensus that Tibetan, Burmese, Tangut, Newar etc. are related langauges the position of Sinitic is controversial. Matisoff says Sinitic and Tibeto-Burman are two branches of Sino-Tibetan. Van Driem rejects this and regards Sinitic as just another branch of Tibeto-Burman. Laurent Sagart, Guillaume Jacques and probably most people working in France agree in essence with van Driem, but prefer to call the family 'Sino-Tibetan' rather than Tibeto Burman. (The Chinese linguists for political reasons see Daic and Hmong-Mian as other branches along with Sinitic and TB in ST.) My objection is that the introductory summary should not give preference to any one of these views, and it was giving preference to Matisoff's. Tibetologist ( talk) 06:38, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
The unsourced thing in your map is linguistic situation in Plav municipality. My map is made completely in accordance with data from listed sources, while your map does not provide a source that would claim that people in Plav are speakers of Bosnian. PANONIAN 11:10, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Are you sure that you aren't edit warring in turn? This doesn't appear to me to be a clear case of vandalism. -- SarekOfVulcan ( talk) 16:55, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi kwamikagami,
Is it maybe time to call WP: Duck on the obvious supriyya sock currently disrupting Linguistics? I'm not getting involved this time in the discussion, and on-going edit war because I have better things to do with my time, but I've been watching from the sidelines and think that the evidence is mounting from the content of this user's edits, the games the user is playing, and the style of editing (e.g. making an edit, being reverted and then accusing the reverter of not following a non-existent consensus) all reveal the pattern we've seen with Supriyya and all her socks. Maunus tried to do a check user but all the old socks were stale so they wouldn't do it. Nevertheless, I think maybe WP: Duck is in order. Comhreir ( talk) 16:10, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kwami, I noticed you added a merge template back into Hyderabadi Urdu after I removed it. When I get bored I have a have a go at the Merge backlog. I have no interest one way or the other if they are merged and my knowledge on the topic is too limited to make an argument either way. However, I read through the discussion and there were four comments opposed to the merge and none supporting it. If you do think the articles should be merged (you seem pretty knowledgeable on languages) I was hoping you wouldn't mind putting a comment as to why under the discussion. That way if it stays there for three more years it will be easier to decide what to do for a lay person like myself. Cheers AIRcorn (talk) 07:49, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi just noticed your various Entiat (tribe) -> Entiat tribe and the like. The problem with this is the dual meaning of "tribe" in American English, with one meaning referring to the governments of various reservations. In the Canadian model, with one or two exceptions I can think of ( Tlowitsis Tribe, which is a government, vs Tlowitsis which is teh actual people)., the normal "dab" is "people", as in Nicola people or Okanagan people, though in many cases the endonym is used ( Secwepemc, Shishalh for the people, without "people", while the normative linguistic/English usage is generally used for the language (e.g. Squamish language). Anyway, there's quite a contrast between the Entiat and, for example, the Colvilles. "Colville tribe" would tend to refer to the Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation, and NB there was no historical "Colville people" in the singular sense; the Colville Reservation contains the remnants of various peoples, including the core Okanagan group; a Canadian example would be Cowichan peoples (vs Cowichan Tribes, which is a government). A further issue of concern is that there remain un-split articles where governments are covered on the same article as ethno history (e.g. Muckleshoot Tribe, I think). The prevalence of "tribe" in US English to mean band organizations tends against it being used for ethnographic peoples, like teh Entiat or other peoples who do not have tribal organizations (currently or in the past) or who are part of larger confederacies such as those at Colville and Grand Ronde....consistency in these matters has long been wanting, I just wanted to point out the discrepancies/issues.....i.e. of using "tribe" vs "people", an d also note that many sources might play loosey-goosey with "Nation", capitalized or otherwise (capitalized in Canada tends to mean a government, though poeple will still use it for e.g. the Nlaka'pamux Nation, but taht as a term formally excludes most of the Nlaka'pamux (Thompson) population because of its political overtones. One article title that for a long time has been needing resolution is Mohawk nation, small-n.... Mohawk people and Mohawk (tribe) currently, I think, redirect there...NB "Mohawk Nation" is a government..... Skookum1 ( talk) 07:28, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Here are the articles I've moved (or in a few cases maybe just edited today):
Here are the ones on my list I haven't moved yet (just adding a 'p' for 'people', '-' for 'keep', etc. would be enough - you don't need to spell it out)
There are also a few "X tribe"s that I've skipped over w/o change that aren't on this list; I can post them as well if you like. These are all listed somewhere under Category:Native American tribes by state, so they don't address Canada etc., and maybe some US peoples that didn't get listed by state. I can easily expand the search if you like; if I have your judgement to go on, I could do it quickly. — kwami ( talk) 07:47, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Could you unlock Template:Countries of Asia? I wish to edit it per the argument I put forward here on the 19th which has received no response, which per WP:SILENCE I'm going to assume is consensus. Unfortunately, it was fully locked for some random reason two years ago, so I can't change it. If there's something else I should do now and you can't unlock per some policy, then it'd be could if you could just direct me to that. Thanks. Chipmunkdavis ( talk) 14:35, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Apparently the Republic Srpska considers Bosnian to be a dialect of the Croatian language. Also, Serb politicians have been using "Croatisms" (word of the day there). Funfunfun Chipmunkdavis ( talk) 02:37, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Kwamikagami. Has it occured to you that you're involved in the topics that are covered by
WP:ARBMAC?
E.g,, here
[9] you've deleted {{citation needed}} on the article
Serbo-Croatian. Was that difficult to insert the inline citation? You know, the page and the line that speaks about that? Kwamikagami, we need sources and citations, not honorable scouts word.
E.g., this change on article
Croatian language is not the seeking consensus or compromise. In some parts, you've inserted wrong information (that the official language of Croatia is Serbo-Croatian). It never was.
Also you don't know the problem of Church Slavonic and its importance for the development of Slavic languages
[10]. Read Brozović's work, there's explanation there. If you like Britannica, why don't you read it? Britannica speaks explicitly and solely about Croatian Church Slavonic.
Kwamikagami, have you ever seen how many times does your name appears here
[11] with the words "(Reverted edits by (your opponent)...." "(Undid revision .... by (your opponent)". Kwamikagami, you're not right by default.
E.g., here. Your edit here
[12] on the article
South Slavic languages is the example of rude vandalism. You deleted the whole referenced sections. You deleted the line about Kajkavian Ikavians, you deleted the info about New and Old Shtokavian accentuation. Your version is full of nonexisting terms (e.g., you deleted "East" from "East Herzegovina" - so which one is that "Herzegovina dialect"?; e.g. you invented "ikavian subdialect of Štokavian"...). Where were your sources for those deletions and where were sources for your inventions (
WP:OR)?
E.g. the article
[13]
Differences between standard Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian. You have inserted your map
[14] that's your personal POV. Serbian user (PANONIAN) gave you reference that proves you wrong. You gave objection "the second objection is falsification of census results because map is made to reflect census results.".
You've also been involved on the template {{
South Slavic languages sidebar}}
[15]. Bunch of reverts, unappropriate expressions in edit summaries
[16], plus indefinite protection
[17], false allegations of consensus
[18] (since users disagreed on that, see history).
Further, you've heavily
WP:INVOLVED yourself in the article
Croatian grammar. You've protected the article on your version
[19] indefinitely. You've been reverting the opponents' versions. See how many times your edits were
[20] "reverted edits by (your opponent)", "undid revision by (your opponent). You've ignored the argumentation on the talkpage
Talk:Croatian grammar.
For engaging in articles that fall under the ruling of
WP:ARBMAC, user Knepferle posted following notification of WP:ARBMAC
[21]. Only in your case, that diff would be somehow widened and it would sound like this:
Repeated blanket reversions, repeatedly and knowingly restoring material with large amounts of poor English and grammatical errors, and repeated introduction of material rejected by consensus all fall below the expected standards of behaviour at this project.
Admin Courcelles suggested me to file
WP:AE. I'm not calling for revolution, arbitration, request for this/that... I've just wanted that you get the proper information, just as it has been hte case with any other involved user on those topics. Bye,
Kubura (
talk) 02:43, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Were you aware of this? Note under the detailed description: "Source: Wikipedia". It even includes "free updates". -- Taivo ( talk) 20:19, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Now that you've moved Zulu to Zulu people and moved the disambiguation page to Zulu, please don't forget to WP:FIXDABLINKS. At a minimum, it would have been an excellent idea to have changed the link at the top of the disambiguation page so that it pointed to the article you moved. -- R'n'B ( call me Russ) 10:20, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
I'm probably just not getting it - why is this robot forever changing [22] the ISO1 code for Manx Gaelic to the ISO2/3 code for North Frisian? Akerbeltz ( talk) 10:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Is this covered anywhere else in Wikipedia besides the article on famous phrase "a language is a dialect ..."? There are some more general sources, e.g. [23] Tijfo098 ( talk) 12:24, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey thats nice of you to lock Chinguacousy Secondary School to protect it from vandalism but the information is out of date. I'd like to make note that Russell Peters attended Chinguacousy in grades 9 & 10. Also the current Principal is Karen Hobbins, not Jan Courtin. Sources: school website & attendance at the institution. Shamandalie27 ( talk) 21:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Alright I didn't know about the 3 day thing. 174.93.123.246 ( talk) 03:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Dear Kwamikagami, I do not think that your redirect IPA-bg => IPA-mk is appropriate, both in principle and as particular application (e.g in Tryavna Peak). Apcbg ( talk) 12:12, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
I caught your message at the help desk and was just having a look when I saw you'd fixed it. But notice that your templates have placed the Alveolar approximant article into Category:Consonant templates, so something must be wrong with the template definitions. I think the "category" call needs to be hidden inside <noinclude> ... </noinclude> - see Help:Noinclude -- John of Reading ( talk) 17:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
All three templates now also take a 2nd unnamed parameter for "showsymbol=". I have documented it, without a preference, both inputs are accepted. Please drop a note when something strange appears. - DePiep ( talk) 11:03, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Instead of going on in an edition war, I’ d rather discuss with you first.
You did remove the slashes, but it seems that it is an error in formatting. Another user has noticed that, and corrected it. I can understand the usage of the template, but what I don’t understand is why you are insistingly putting asterisks before the original words. Is it some rule defined here in Wikipedia?
Thanks
Ten Islands ( talk) 11:19, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I'm looking at these and thinking they're prose templates, i.e., violations of WP:Template namespace. Your thoughts? -- Pi zero ( talk) 13:43, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
I am having some difficulty with an editor who does not seem to understand or accept that Folk etymology is a well defined term in historical linguistics. Can you recommend to what discussion board I should take this matter if it becomes necessary? I will watch this space, you can respond to me here. Thanks. μηδείς ( talk) 04:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi kwami. This edit introduced an error in the lead: the IPAblink template doesn't recognize [kˀ]. I'm not sure how to fix it myself, so I thought I'd let you know. -- JorisvS ( talk) 10:20, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I plan to improve the template {{ IPAsound}} and related stuff. To me, it is a template -- wiki-technical stuff. Do you have any ideas or itches I could take care of? (IPA POV allowed) - DePiep ( talk) 18:26, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Greetings, K. You posted the following at my talkp-age: You have reached WP:3RR at Folk etymology. If you continue edit warring, you will be blocked. If you do not think you can get justice on the talk page, please pursue WP:RFC or other avenues of dispute resolution. — kwami ( talk) 01:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Explain yourself. Itis you and Medeis who are edit warring (in his case canvassing as well) and this now constitutes harassment and hounding. Go through those ediuts and edit dates again. Andthen by all means take things up at WP:ANI. This conduct is really out of line. DavidOaks ( talk) 01:52, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
You have reached WP:3RR at Charles Hapgood. Please stop edit warring and take it to Talk, or I will report you to WP:ANI. It is you who have violated WP:3RR and were aske dto go to discussion but instead you give me a warning and revert the edit. A discussion has been started-do not revert this edit again until a consensus has been reached. Thanos5150 ( talk) 02:00, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
I've posted a note at WP:ANI. As you are engaged in the discussion, you may want to follow things there. DavidOaks ( talk) 02:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Please, see Template talk:IPA-arz. -- Mahmudmasri ( talk) 04:34, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
I'd advise you not to edit this article today (of course you can use the talk page). I'll check the issue myself, but you are at 3RR I believe and I'm sure you don't want to go over that. I try never to go past 2. If you edit again today I wouldn't be surprised if you were blocked and given that Thanos has been blocked it would be reasonable if you were blocked. Please don't take offense at this, just try and make sure you don't even give the appearance of edit warring. Dougweller ( talk) 07:59, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately, there was no distinct letter J in the ancient Roman alphabet ("J" was at best a non-distinctive swash glyph variant of "I"), but your edits imply that there was... AnonMoos ( talk) 11:47, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
User:Attilios unilaterally moved this page (see [27]), without debate or reference to the fact that's not the format for most provinces (also ignoring Gipuzkoa and Biscay in the same cat). I left a message on his page but he's not answering. Do you reckon you could move it back before grass grows on it? Akerbeltz ( talk) 12:55, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Re this, are you sure? My experience with French-looking British noble names is they might not be pronounced as they are in French. For all we know, this might be La-BOO-sher or some other curious Britishism (e.g. "Beauchamp" - "Beecham" in British). Skookum1 ( talk) 19:08, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Procedural question I guess. There's a creeping Movanification of the etymology aspects which keep trying to make out that Basque is a substratum language for Sardinina. Chief culprit are users who think that Michel Morvan's web dictionary is a reliable source [28] (the usual comparison of surface form sh*** and ignoring of historical phonology... But I'm definitely fighting a loosing battle there; a quick look on wikis in other languages makes me really feel like there's someone close to Morvan who's trying to push his career by inserting as many links to his name/dictionary on Wikipedia as possible (see edits by User:BANTASAN such as [29] or [30]. I'm not asking you to sort this but I'm unsure of what to do as it's only marginally my area of expertise and doesn't seem to fall into any obvious problem category. Part of the problem is that fringe stuff like Morvan is so easy to come up with and then it take a long time for someone to bother taking it apart in a publication, ultimately making Wikipedia a platform for their junk. Akerbeltz ( talk) 13:09, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! I'm right now attempting an over-all polishing-up of the article Tahash (making notes first) and saw your recent IPA edit. I'm still so new to Wikipedia participating (about two weeks) that I didn't know about the template you used to such good effect. So thanks for pitching in there. -- Michael Paul Heart ( talk) 06:09, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami. As a favour, could you please take a look at the IPA rendering of the pronunciation of Tumbulgum. A folk pronunciation can be found at [31]—"proun. tum-BULgim not tumble-gum". Cheers, Mattinbgn ( talk) 08:50, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users who edit disruptively or refuse to collaborate with others may be blocked if they continue. In particular the three-revert rule states that making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the talk page to discuss controversial changes. Work towards wording and content that gains consensus among editors. If unsuccessful then do not edit war even if you believe you are right. Post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.
One more will be a violation of 3RR. I recommend against it. - Lisa ( talk - contribs) 12:25, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
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μηδείς ( talk) 21:52, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
I am dismayed that no action is being taken at the ANI complaint. We now have a recruited editor arguing that there is academic bias against folkloristics just as might be expected given the targeted canvassing. It would seem highly inappropriate to recruit a dozen linguists. I am loath even to file any noticeboard requests. Can you suggest the proper thing to do to move the article discussion toward sources and away from rule by a recruited mob? And do you think perhaps my complaint against the canvasser was filed in the wrong place? μηδείς ( talk) 06:52, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Upon refiling the complaint for canvassing one editor seemed to think I was accusing him of conspiring with DavidOaks and an admin assumed Oaks was notifying interested parties from all fields. They have reopened the complaint for comments here. An opinion on the nonsilliness of the issue there would be helpful. μηδείς ( talk) 05:06, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi! I realized I should have written you a note; your recent AWB edit to fix the IPA in Christian seems to have removed the IPA pronounciation entirely. I'm guessing that was not intentional, so I undid the edit, but figured I should let you know. Thanks!
-- Joren ( talk) 20:15, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
This edit [32] did not fix any IPA. However, it broke one of the reference templates by deleting a pair of closing braces. — Carl ( CBM · talk) 12:34, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing the IPA on Mel Tjeerdsma. Jweiss11 ( talk) 17:52, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
I appreciate you adding the pronunciations of lemur names in Malagasy to the various lemur articles. I'm not very skilled at using IPA, so it's a huge help! However, we need to be careful about the use of some of the names. The biggest problem comes from the word maky. In Malagasy, maky has multiple meanings. Technically, it's the most commonly used name in the south and west for the Ring-tailed Lemur. Around Isalo, I know it's called hira. Unfortunately, maky is also used by some to refer to lemurs in general... probably due to the Ring-tailed Lemur being the national icon. However, official Malagasy (as taught in Tana) dictates that the proper word for lemur is gìdro. Some sources also list the word for lemur as babakoto... even rajako and ankomba. In the case of babakoto, that is also the name for the Indri, while gìdro also refers to some true lemurs. So, as you can see, the word for lemur depends not only on the dialect, but also on what tourist-drawing lemur comes to mind first.
For now, I'm going to remove the change to the Lemur article because it may require an paragraph of explanation to properly cover. (We also can't use Wiki to push one name over another.) Also, don't take offense if I shift things around a bit or do other clean-up with your edits. Best, – VisionHolder « talk » 22:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Sounds good. You're the expert in this area, not I. – VisionHolder « talk » 01:21, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello Kwamikagami,
Most of your IPA transcription were good, but you made many errors in accentuation and in palatalization of consonants, you dropped when you shouldn't, but you made some errors in transcripting names and consonants, for example, you forgot to put deformations (palatal, labial, voiceless a) on some articles ( [33], [34]) and you added unessential vowels (in Tsiroanomandidy) and/or inexistent consonant (as ʃ which don't exist at all (maybe you have confused this with the palatalized /sj/) or tʃ where th nearest phoneme is tr (Malagasy pronunciation: [ʈʂ])). Now, most of them have been fixed by me.
I'm also using a different sign when noting voiceless a. According to you, the voiceless a is ə̥ but in the article about malagasy language, I have noted them /a/ because the voiceless a is between the "open schwa" (ɐ) and the "real schwa", but it is voiceless and its pronunciations can change from one region to another (lightly, however) ; I followed your standards because I am not a linguist and I don't know if you are a linguist.
Best regards from France.
-- Jagwar - (( talk )) 14:03, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
I've noticed that you have changed the pronunciation on the Murray, Utah article twice. I just wanted to let you know that Utah English pronounces Murray with the NURSE vowel, not the STRUT vowel. Ntsimp ( talk) 06:03, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Great work on the IPA-mg and WP:IPA for Malagasy. You turned that around so quickly, it's wonderful. I'd love to give you a barnstar - I've heard people talk about that but I don't actually know how to do it. Let me see if I can figure it out! - Lemurbaby ( talk) 11:28, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar | ||
Presented for your creation of the Malagasy IPA pages and your tireless transcription efforts. Thank you! Lemurbaby ( talk) 11:44, 19 November 2010 (UTC) |
I'm sure you've noticed it, but something got screwed up with your talk page's formatting a couple of sections ago. I looked at the coding around the point where it happened, but couldn't see anything. But I'm not an expert in wikicodes. -- Taivo ( talk) 13:04, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
What's going on here? Are we now transcribing the happY vowel with ɪ instead of i? —Angr ( talk) 08:25, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
You've been asked before, several times, politely, to remember to WP:FIXDABLINKS when you create a new disambiguation page or redirect an article title to an existing disambiguation page. Within the past 24 hours, you've done it again with Quechua and Aymara. I'm assuming good faith, and I'm assuming that these moves were justified. However, each of them left hundreds of incorrect links behind. You did not even check for use of these links in templates, or in redirects such as Aymara ethnic group where the need to fix the links was most obvious. If you are going to make changes to Wikipedia, you should at least make sure that you are not making the encyclopedia less accurate and less useful. Before your changes, all the links to Quechua and Aymara at least took readers to a relevant article; now they do not. Please refrain from creating big messes like this and leaving them for others to clean up. Thank you. -- R'n'B ( call me Russ) 11:26, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
You can delete thge talk page as well, I have copied its contents to folk etymology. μηδείς ( talk) 18:18, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
You have been very decent with me in that you did not put up administrator airs , inspite of the long ping-pong battle we had. I do not want to jump to conclusions. Please do not take it otherwise, but what is this [35]]? Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 18:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
What do you want to say with spurious IPA ? You also know Middle Chinese#Reconstructed phonology. You mustn't use the word such as spurious. Maybe you prefer Bernhard Karlgren to Wan Li. Anyway it is not important for me which system we prefer. Thank you. Takabeg ( talk) 07:02, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami. I have been working on Samoan language to try and clean it up after a plea for help from User:Teinesavaii. I am stuck on the Grammar section (haven't even started looking at Phonology and the rest). The problem is that the material has been taken from a 1890s grammar which doesn't make much sense at all. It had a lot of case stuff (a la Latin/Greek) which I have tried to reduce. Any chance you could take a look and give us some advice? Kahuroa ( talk) 22:46, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Rather than go round and round on the Ganges/Ganga issue, your expert skills are probably better spent on improving the IndE article itself, which is in a rather poor state right now. Tijfo098 ( talk) 12:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Just a heads up of where the influx of Croatian editors came from and their mentality: [38] -- ◅PRODUCER ( TALK) 23:32, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
I take issue with being the only protagonist being warned for engaging in an Edit War in regards to Roentgenium. Perhaps you are just warning me because you disagree with me?
I have attempted to reach a compromise position, and that is represented in the history for the page with my good faith edits trying to take into account the other side's objections. The other side refuses to engage in the meat of the discussion as to whether the edit that I (and another) have attempted to put forward.
Instead of swooping in on talk pages of protagonists with whom you (apparently?) disagree, why don't you contribute to the discussion?
Danjel ( talk) 08:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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- "See WP:RS and this post. There were dozens such "discoveries" in the field of new elements. Cheers. Materialscientist ( talk) 03:12, 3 December 2010 (UTC)"
- Sorry, my class arrived as I was editting up your page. Should have been more detailed (and should have signed!).
- The validity or non-validity of the claim isn't at issue. My edit stated that the claim has been made, and quoted a reliable source (arXiv /is/ a reliable source for science news).
Sorry, I haven’t understood [39]: what exactly needs clarification? Thanks. Ten Islands ( talk) 09:21, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Although I have talked to you before, you continue messing up articles containing Semitic transcription. Semitic is transcribed in various ways. I know you only know one system and you think everybody uses it, but this is not true. The way you're trying to force your rather limited knowledge in Semitic linguistics on every article is childish. STOP IT.-- HD86 ( talk) 13:01, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
The transcription systems used in the articles I wrote are not "bastards." They are quite common transcription systems. They look bastards ONLY to YOU because you haven't seen them before. Try to remember well this time.-- HD86 ( talk) 15:20, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
First of all, this is not a "combined use of symbols from romanized transcription and IPA." Second, before arguing one should read first about the subject. Here's, I googled a reference for you:
http://www.lingfil.uu.se/afro/semitiska/forskarutbildning/transcription-of-arabicEN.pdf
See page 7 where it says:
This is not the first time I discuss this subject, but the gentleman does not even remember talking to me. This is a problem.-- HD86 ( talk) 15:46, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Please concentrate. This statement by you is WRONG:
Where did you see that in the source? The source never says anything about IPA. Try to read carefully. As for the rest of your talk, I don't care what your personal opinions are. You can keep them for yourself. The symobles I used in the srticle are quite commonly used by specialists and they are very suitable. I need a worthy opinion that says otherwise to reconsider them.-- HD86 ( talk) 16:12, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Why do you keep adding a stress indicator (') to "Thicke". It is superfluous and not to be used, since the name has only one syllable. Aikclaes ( talk) 18:24, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
FYI that the above was filed. I rejected it because it is clearly unsuitable for formal mediation, but be aware that the request was filed, and please note also my comments in the "Decision of the Mediation Committee" section. Regards, AGK 00:01, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Please make sure to leave a GA quality summary of the main article in situ in the phonology section. Also why do you consider that to be a content fork? ·Maunus·ƛ· 22:22, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Kwami.
Regarding your recent changes. Although they're very neat and elegant (a good thing), the IPAslink template has broken half of the links, in that they now go to the generic Aspiration article instead of the perfectly valid articles for the actual sounds (the only sound without its own article being the aspirated velar affricate).
Is this Eurocentric myopia a known soon-to-be-fixed limitation of IPAslink? Because otherwise I'll have to revert your well-intentioned edits.
Tebello TheWHAT!!?? 05:28, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
HI Kwamigakami. In the article on Proof (truth) I noticed your judgment of "Even in mathematics there is no fixed criterion for sufficiency; for example an experienced mathematician may find a short demonstration of a theorem sufficient where a novice would need more details" as being "nonsensical". As an experienced mathematician myself, having worked in the field for forty years, I am puzzled why you would find this "nonsensical" given that it is very true, not to mention very obvious to any experienced practitioner of mathematics. Are you an experienced mathematician yourself? Or do you have some other basis for making this judgment that allows you to override the judgment of experienced mathematicians in such matters? -- Vaughan Pratt ( talk) 06:54, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Kwami, I don't understand the changes you made to the Google Scholar results. Could you explain? -- JN 466 12:28, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Kwami, my honest advice in the Ganga/Ganges matter is the following: just leave them. "Our side" presented its argument already and we voted according to their conscience. We did our duty.
"Their side" is simply preaching and are focused in always having the last word in any argumentation whatsoever. If that includes denying that the name Ganga is simply virtually unknown outside of the Indian subcontinent so be it. If that includes denying that there are more British and American English-speakers (both using Ganges) than Indian-speakers in this planet, so be it.
It is simply better to leave this issue to the very-late administrator (I wish him good luck). I will be surprised if he rules in favour of Ganga but even if this happens (probably due political and political correct reasons) at least I can be sure that I'm innocent. Just leave them to their preaching. Flamarande ( talk) 15:45, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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I was by this article tonight and happened to glance at the IPA, which seems to indicate a diphthong on the second syllable, and while I've heard Americans pronounce it that way, with a schwa in the diphthong, it should be remembered that the British pronunciation, as I remember it frmo my British Victorian friends, is much more of a clear "o", emphatically so, and this has played out in the inherited local pronunciation. Maybe it's the same on Queen Victoria's article, though; it just struck me as odd-looking, or derived from somebody with slangy, younger pronunciation. Skookum1 ( talk) 08:12, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Somebody just created this [40] map, introducing an artificial geographical differentiation that no wiki seems to support. Plus he's started replacing existing maps with it. As it's an issue that affects several wikis and commons, I'm not sure where to raise this issue. Any suggestions? Akerbeltz ( talk) 15:13, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
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For your contributions to File:IPA chart 2005.png (better seen in the English Wikipedia logs since the move to Commons). In taking linguistics courses as an undergraduate, having a printout-size and easy-to-find IPA reference was indispensable. I will probably be finding printouts of this file mixed in with my college papers for decades to come; that's just how often I used it. —/ Mendaliv/ 2¢/ Δ's/ 22:31, 7 December 2010 (UTC) |
I believe you just expanded the unicode on a number of Etruscan words. Now in the list of Etruscan words all the unicode words are a bit larger than the others, and in a different font, e.g. θesan vs. tin-. Looks kind of weird! Should we a) add the unicode template (if that's the right word) to all of them - or am I using the wrong fonts? Thanks. Jpaulm ( talk) 02:11, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Do you happenstance have a source for this Al Hamalain/Hemelein Prima somewhere? Rursus dixit. ( mbork3!) 12:43, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
I just found your fix-it page. I had a bunch of links above; I'm moving them to User:Rursus/star_name_desinformation. — kwami ( talk) 21:20, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
I just wanted to point out that while this list is definitely interesting on its own merits, it has next to nothing to do with the topic of the article it has been added to (Geography of Russia). Do you think it could be moved to a more appropriate location and linked to from this articles instead? Cheers,— Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • ( yo?); December 9, 2010; 21:59 (UTC)
I just wanted to let you know that one of your comments has been included (and attributed to you) as part of my Nuggets of Wiki Wisdom . Thanks, and if you object then let me know :o) Redthoreau -- ( talk) 07:19, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
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I, Stevey7788, hereby present you the Tireless Contributor Barnstar for your tremendously prolific work on languages and linguistics. Excellent articles, wonderful images, and impressive contributions overall! — Stevey7788 ( talk) 23:17, 12 December 2010 (UTC) |
Blatantly stating "the English is poor" doesn't prove anything nor does restoring wrong grammar support that opinion. Also, the "substantial change" regarding the Holy War exists, please verify it through my justifications in discussion page and fix the citation necessarily instead of deleting it. -- Truflip99 ( talk) 14:55, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
I think you are very wise linguistically :)
I would need your help as there is an edit war on the Valencian language article.
It seems there is not an agreement to classify Catalan and Valencian. This is pretty ambiguous and unclear as there are linguists who think it should be included with the Gallo-Romance language, while many others with the Ibero-Romance languages. How shall we classify both Catalan and Valencian?
In my opinion Catalan is a transitional language, Ibero-Romance, due to lexical influence from Arabic/Mozarabic, akin to Portuguese and Spanish. And Gallo-Romance language, due to common lexical roots from latin with these languages. But this is not a very proper assertion. What is it then? :D
Also, the Spanish and Catalan Wikipedia as AVL and IEC, agree Catalan and Valencian are the same linguistic system, despite indivual and political thoughts. How can this be applied on the English Wikipedia? Thank you in advance :D Jaume87 ( talk) 20:53, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
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— kwami ( talk) 00:39, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi; just discovered this while tidying up; is there a standard tag I can add to draw your attention to these? If possible not just IPA but some more English-speaker friendly alternative I know is out there; BCGNIS actually often provides pronunciation of this kind, but not in IPA (which if I ever get hired by them, I'll try and change). Skookum1 ( talk) 22:47, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
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"Tone letter" explicitly refers to IPA, but has no clear description about that. To me: I'd expect an IPA-overview and, being me, a Unicode list. Probably a separate section. Am I right? - DePiep ( talk) 01:19, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi given your linguistic background and recent invovelemnt, I thought you may be interest in improving the article using this [42]. Thanks-- Khodabandeh14 ( talk) 00:56, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kwamikagami, I think you made an error in your recent revert in the IPA for Hindi-Urdu article driven by misunderstandings caused by allophony. I want to discuss this a bit. Please take a peek at its talk page and respond. Thanks! - Hunnjazal ( talk) 05:27, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
What if we changed the name of List of Solar System objects in hydrostatic equilibrium to List of Solar System statistics, and simply stated in the intro that hydrostatic equilibrium was a requirement for inclusion? Serendi pod ous 23:50, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps your wording wasn't perfect, but it suggested that Macedonian is a variety of Serbo-Croatian. FYI, the standard varieties of Serbo-Croatian are Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin (which is arguably still in a process of codification). -- 124.169.79.79 ( talk) 06:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
User_talk:R3ap3R.inc#Not_good_faith. Personally, I think you might have acted a bit too fast, but I haven't thoroughly examined the issue. The phrasing in the article is misleading, and I agree with the revert, but not sure about the block. / ƒETCH COMMS / 01:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Looking at the edit in question in a little more detail, here is what I see that verifies "Terms used to describe the Khoisan people include monkey":
It looks like the first part is right, but it is not explained in context that the term monkey was used in a pejorative manner (as clearly shown in the one reference above).
There is another issue with regards to the next part of that contested edit: referring to Khoisan haplotypes 1A and the structure of their λ-DNA segments → with sources that point to scientific papers which mention nothing about he Khoisan tribe. I don't know how you folks interpret this, but one can conclude that synthesis of sources is going on, trying to link DNA evidence as to why the Khoisan were being referred to as monkeys some time ago.
As far as the block is concerned, I don't know if I see "falsification of refs"; at the worst, there is WP:SYN going on. I find it too significant of a stretch to call this "racist vandalism", as I don't think that was the intention (also, keep in mind, Wikipedia is not censored).
Hence, I recommend unblocking and explaining to the user what he may not be doing correctly. – MuZemike 02:22, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I've unblocked this editor as it seems that they made an honest mistake in reverting an edit they believed to be vandalism but in fact reintroduced vandalism to the article. I don't think this was their intent and I see nothing in their history that would make me think otherwise, so I've unblocked. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 03:03, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
I just noticed that you had moved some but not all the articles on Inuit languages. For example Inuinnaqtun and Kangiryuarmiutun but not Inuktitut or Inuvialuktun. However, given that they are unique names shouldn't Wikipedia:Naming conventions (languages) apply? Inuinnaqtun/Kangiryuarmiutun/Inuvialuktun is the language and Inuinnaq/Kangiryuarmiut/Inuvialuit are the people. Cheers. Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 11:41, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I may not have understood what you are trying to tell me, but I understand that you see some "standard(s)(?)" of IPA notation violated. You writing gives me the impression of you being an IPA expert, which I am not. I do not understand, what you think is wrong, so it may be helpful to explain that, but independent of the peculiarities of quoting a source which is a source. In the book, they make some remarks on their use of IPA which may nourish suspicions that they went to a "broader than broad" transcription. Being a native Colognian speaker, and being used to half a dozen different language dictionaries using IPA transcriptions, I feel able to check the transcriptions in the book. I found some which I would have made differently.
I have few more questions, but I am running out of time for now. Thank you. -- Purodha Blissenbach ( talk) 11:42, 31 December 2010 (UTC)