“ | Adminship has become a big deal and everyone knows it even if they offer aphorisms to the contrary.— SMcCandlish | ” |
“ | For all practical purposes, desysopping acts as a permanent bar to an editor ever becoming an admin again. – Iridescent [1] | ” |
“ | "What a very sorry state of affairs, when children and rather odd adults elected to the Arbcom can willingly and knowingly drive off productive and long standing editors. One despairs, one really does!" Giano [2] | ” |
I put this next quote by Tryptofish here because in view of the RexxS Arbcom case, it's practically verbatim what I would have said myself:
“ | I'm retired-and-yet-not-retired, whatever that is. I'm just flat-out disgusted with what the culture here has degraded into, and I'm only dropping in from time to time to, I guess, be a single-purpose account whose purpose is to try and do something about it. If things improve, maybe I'll eventually resume content editing, but if not, not... – Tryptofish [3] | ” |
“ | The problem is that ArbCom is a failed process. I could go on for a while here about that if you would like. The very quick summary; I spent years digging into this and what I found was absolutely appalling. The gross incompetence and, at times, outright malfeasance is absolutely shocking. ArbCom is wildly out of control, routinely ignores policies the community has established including WP:ARBPOL, dramatically tilts cases against named parties, and ignores evidence in favor of private deliberations. – Hammersoft [4] | ” |
“ | "You can't have grudges against people who criticize you in good-faith." – Juliancolton | ” |
“ | The moral turpitude of those regulars who populate the behaviour boards beggars belief – (I'll spare the identity of the pronouncer of this gem) | ” |
}\
Lenten Rose |
Today, we have a DYK about Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - see here. - Thank you for your position in the arb case request, - I feel I have to stay away, but there are conversations further down on the page, in case of interest, - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:56, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/RexxS. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/RexxS/Evidence. Please add your evidence by March 13, 2021, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/RexxS/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, SQL Query me! 04:52, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:41, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for standing up for integrity. We lost another good one. He designed this template, DYK? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:41, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Today: Carmen for TFA (on my request), with Bizet's music " expressing the emotions and suffering of his characters" as Brian worded it. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:39, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
How about deleting the thread/t above? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 23:38, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Hey, just dropping by to say that it's a breath of fresh air to still see your level-headed and informed responses around the site, even after that disastrous ArbCom case. Hope you have a great year, Anarchyte ( talk • work) 12:38, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi Kudpung,
I had a bit of free time on my hands, and I'm really not in the mood to edit so I thought I might take a moment to say hello. If I haven't told you before, I do really appreciate what you do here, and I'm glad you decided to stick around. I'll also say that I think you got a really raw deal a while back. Just wanted to wish the very best to you and yours. — Ched ( talk) 23:35, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
What a lovely image, Chris! The title, though, has an obvious spelling error. No time to read the above yet, I'll write one more article in memory of RexxS, and make a statement in the case, after all, - one diff. Not that it will change anything, - this user feels like Cassandre having said that the case would not improve kindness, nor an article. (see User talk:Hammersoft, always good reading) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:54, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hey there Chris - I hope this finds you and yours doing well. I really like the picture - I might have to change mine. :-) One other thing did cross my mind regarding the RexxS case, but I wasn't sure it was proper to mention at a case page. It appeared to me that a couple ex-arbs were trying to heavily influence the outcome. While all editors are encouraged to speak/type, I wasn't impressed with constant hammering at things. I know it's possible it's only my perception - but it looked like a couple folks were trying to throw their weight around as if their views should be given extra consideration. Am I mistaken in my view? If not, did you experience the same thing? Well, that second sort of answers itself I guess. I know that your own case showed a heavy leaning toward one side. IMO I'd expect a more respectful tone from an Arb (ex or not). I would have thought time spent on the committee would teach one some balance, fairness, humility and perspective. I'm now questioning that thought. Do you have any input? And if you'd like to speak more openly than wiki allows, feel free to respond in email. (or if you'd rather not say anything, that's fine too) — Ched ( talk) 13:25, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
FoF when someone doesn't participate: RexxS is gone. I'd probably better say it.I'm glad about one thing: that FoF3 totally failed and in doing so I hope it's set a precedent - it was one of the things that got me desysoped (of course there will be people who will come out of the woodwork to disagree with that). Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 22:36, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
(look how well that's worked out...).. awww man. I said I was sorry. :-) — Ched ( talk) 03:54, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for what you said for RexxS -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
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Thank you, a good one! - On this day in 1742, He was despised was performed for the first time, and when I wrote it in 2012, I didn't only think of Jesus (and now I think of you and RexxS and too many others). Andreas Scholl sang that for us, - you are invited to a Baroque stroll. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:20, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
More memories on the Main page today, Psalm 115 thinking of Yoninah, Christa Ludwig and Milva, - voices that made the Earth a better place. Sad that the psalm hook didn't appear on Earth Day as planned, but better pictured and late than going unnoticed ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:03, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi Kudpung! Would you be okay if I restored User:Kudpung/Article deletion and moved it elsewhere (since you evidentially don't want it in your userspace)? A couple admins link to it in their edit notice, myself included. -- TheSandDoctor Talk 21:14, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Hey, Kudpung! I was wondering if you'd be willing to take a quick gander at this to see if I've made any stupid mistakes? —valereee ( talk) 17:24, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
The term gap klaem is also used to refer to the Thai drinking culture in general. Not that anyone here in NE Thailand agrees with that. Most say that that aspect of the culture is dated.
beer [...] is consumed primarily by the well-to-do and for celebrations. IMO, false. Beer is typically drunk on any occasion and it is as popular here as anywhere else in the world, particularly Western countries. We have about 50 construction workers here from bricklayers to lorry drivers and they almost always sit together on the floor after work before going home, drinking beer and perhaps sharing one bottle of locally distilled rice schnapps for chasers. They might be snacking on buffalo beef jerky like one might occasionally have a bag of crisps or pork scratchings in a pub in the UK.
Many bars in Thailand are BYOB; customers pay for their mixers and food. Never heard of such a thing. People here are as less likely to take their own booze to a bar as Brits would to a pub.
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I hope you're well - I've mentioned you at ANI (hopefully you got a ping!), this is a courtesy note. Giant Snowman 19:14, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
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I wasn’t as versed as I currently am when arbcom took that action against you, so back then when I read it I couldn’t make heads or tale of what you all were saying, however I was hospitalized for a while last week and decided to do some reading, I revisited that thread and knowing what I know now, I can see how it was particularly unfair to you, whilst I mat not support certain actions you carried out particularly regarding GorillaWarfare and the tantrums you exhibited, I can however say without an iota of doubt that you were merely protecting the integrity of the encyclopedia. I see now that we share a similar ideology and a particular disdain for undisclosed paid editing. What I have learnt is, and this may be helpful to you(when I pray you return fully) is when leaving a UPE template on the Tp of an editor you should initiate a dialogue with the editor in question and whilst not spilling too much explain to them why you have left them the template, that way you wouldn’t be accused of “casting aspersions” or “making unfounded accusations” I can appreciate your frustration, as I have been in your shoes, in a recent ANI discussion where I was involved in, editors who I had correctly exposed for engaging in less than ethical practices saw the ANI opportunity as a way to get back at me and this mirrors exactly what you experienced in the Arbcom case. In retrospect I really do feel bad that happened to you, I mean you literally designed NPP and you were treated very unfairly. I hope you do come out of your semi retirement as your absence is felt. There’s is a dearth of anti UPE editors and I largely attribute that to the community vilifying anti UPE editors, and protecting “NEWBIES” who aren’t even “NEWBIES” honestly MER-C, is the only sysop holding down the forth. Please do return, I hope you consider this. Celestina007 ( talk) 00:26, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
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As this Wikimania finished yesterday, I got to wondering what you made of it. It was originally planned to be in Thailand but ended up in Remo – a virtual venue which is so obscure that it doesn't have an article. But all the presentations have or will be archived on YouTube so you can sample them there.
I found it to be mostly just another social media platform – like Discord, Facebook, Twitter, Zoom and the like. The physical experience of a place like HK was missing – going to the recent Wiknic in rural Kent was more of an exciting expedition. But it was a lot cheaper and more convenient too. If they do something like that again, I have some ideas for making more of it.
While checking to see if you're active, I noticed you editing county. I was recently commenting at a related AfD and, in the course of that, read interesting material like Tolkien and the Counties of England, which explained the great influence of Tolkien's childhood in Worcestershire – a county that you know well, I suppose. It's a small world ...
Andrew🐉( talk) 11:00, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi Kudpung. I understand you are a near-native speaker of German. I will be grateful if you will offer an English translation of the byline of this Deutsche Welle article, and as much as the remainder of the article as you have the inclination for (paragraphs 3, 4, 5 are the most relevant for WP purposes). It's for use in the article Julian Assange.
Google translate gives "A key witness for the indictment against the imprisoned Wikileaks founder revokes his testimony and MPs from almost all parties appeal to US President Joe Biden - but also to Chancellor Angela Merkel."
Thanks for your help. Cambial foliage❧ 12:55, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi Kudpung, I didn't want to derail stuff on Clem's talkpage by going off at a tangent, but I did want to say something in response to your last message there. I'm sorry you don't want to be involved any more, but obviously that's your choice.
I can't speak to the 'power-hungry teenagers' point, but the 'can't write a decent article' thing isn't, I think, entirely fair. I like to hope I know how to write a halfway-decent article myself, and content creation is the thing I like doing most of all here. But it's not the only important thing. If we were producing an actual hardcopy encyclopaedia, we wouldn't only need to employ writers and researchers. We'd need project managers, copy editors, type setters, IT people, someone to do the accounts, probably an intellectual property lawyer or two, maybe some security staff to watch the building at night, someone to clean the offices, etc. We too need a range of different skillsets in our editor base, and in our admin corps, and on arbcom.
If, for example, someone has first-rate IT skills and is exceedingly good at detecting socks, and they want to volunteer their time to stop LTAs who want to harass our writers or vandalise our content, then I don't give a monkey's whether they are a good, moderate or even very bad writer - I'm more than happy for them to have the administrative toolset, and the CU bit, because they will probably do more good for the project overall in 30 minutes' work than I did in all the hours I spent writing my latest FA on an obscure Scottish building. There are a number of very fine writers in the admin corps, and on the current arbcom, as there should be. There are also people with different skillsets, which is also as it should be, in my view. Cheers Girth Summit (blether) 11:40, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
“ | Adminship has become a big deal and everyone knows it even if they offer aphorisms to the contrary.— SMcCandlish | ” |
“ | For all practical purposes, desysopping acts as a permanent bar to an editor ever becoming an admin again. – Iridescent [1] | ” |
“ | "What a very sorry state of affairs, when children and rather odd adults elected to the Arbcom can willingly and knowingly drive off productive and long standing editors. One despairs, one really does!" Giano [2] | ” |
I put this next quote by Tryptofish here because in view of the RexxS Arbcom case, it's practically verbatim what I would have said myself:
“ | I'm retired-and-yet-not-retired, whatever that is. I'm just flat-out disgusted with what the culture here has degraded into, and I'm only dropping in from time to time to, I guess, be a single-purpose account whose purpose is to try and do something about it. If things improve, maybe I'll eventually resume content editing, but if not, not... – Tryptofish [3] | ” |
“ | The problem is that ArbCom is a failed process. I could go on for a while here about that if you would like. The very quick summary; I spent years digging into this and what I found was absolutely appalling. The gross incompetence and, at times, outright malfeasance is absolutely shocking. ArbCom is wildly out of control, routinely ignores policies the community has established including WP:ARBPOL, dramatically tilts cases against named parties, and ignores evidence in favor of private deliberations. – Hammersoft [4] | ” |
“ | "You can't have grudges against people who criticize you in good-faith." – Juliancolton | ” |
“ | The moral turpitude of those regulars who populate the behaviour boards beggars belief – (I'll spare the identity of the pronouncer of this gem) | ” |
}\
Lenten Rose |
Today, we have a DYK about Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - see here. - Thank you for your position in the arb case request, - I feel I have to stay away, but there are conversations further down on the page, in case of interest, - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:56, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/RexxS. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/RexxS/Evidence. Please add your evidence by March 13, 2021, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/RexxS/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, SQL Query me! 04:52, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
One year! |
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-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:41, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for standing up for integrity. We lost another good one. He designed this template, DYK? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:41, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Today: Carmen for TFA (on my request), with Bizet's music " expressing the emotions and suffering of his characters" as Brian worded it. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:39, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
How about deleting the thread/t above? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 23:38, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Hey, just dropping by to say that it's a breath of fresh air to still see your level-headed and informed responses around the site, even after that disastrous ArbCom case. Hope you have a great year, Anarchyte ( talk • work) 12:38, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi Kudpung,
I had a bit of free time on my hands, and I'm really not in the mood to edit so I thought I might take a moment to say hello. If I haven't told you before, I do really appreciate what you do here, and I'm glad you decided to stick around. I'll also say that I think you got a really raw deal a while back. Just wanted to wish the very best to you and yours. — Ched ( talk) 23:35, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
What a lovely image, Chris! The title, though, has an obvious spelling error. No time to read the above yet, I'll write one more article in memory of RexxS, and make a statement in the case, after all, - one diff. Not that it will change anything, - this user feels like Cassandre having said that the case would not improve kindness, nor an article. (see User talk:Hammersoft, always good reading) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:54, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hey there Chris - I hope this finds you and yours doing well. I really like the picture - I might have to change mine. :-) One other thing did cross my mind regarding the RexxS case, but I wasn't sure it was proper to mention at a case page. It appeared to me that a couple ex-arbs were trying to heavily influence the outcome. While all editors are encouraged to speak/type, I wasn't impressed with constant hammering at things. I know it's possible it's only my perception - but it looked like a couple folks were trying to throw their weight around as if their views should be given extra consideration. Am I mistaken in my view? If not, did you experience the same thing? Well, that second sort of answers itself I guess. I know that your own case showed a heavy leaning toward one side. IMO I'd expect a more respectful tone from an Arb (ex or not). I would have thought time spent on the committee would teach one some balance, fairness, humility and perspective. I'm now questioning that thought. Do you have any input? And if you'd like to speak more openly than wiki allows, feel free to respond in email. (or if you'd rather not say anything, that's fine too) — Ched ( talk) 13:25, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
FoF when someone doesn't participate: RexxS is gone. I'd probably better say it.I'm glad about one thing: that FoF3 totally failed and in doing so I hope it's set a precedent - it was one of the things that got me desysoped (of course there will be people who will come out of the woodwork to disagree with that). Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 22:36, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
(look how well that's worked out...).. awww man. I said I was sorry. :-) — Ched ( talk) 03:54, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for what you said for RexxS -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021).
delete-redirect
userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target.On 5 April 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Eugénie Brazier, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Eugénie Brazier was the first chef to be awarded six Michelin stars? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eugénie Brazier. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Eugénie Brazier), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile ( talk) 00:01, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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Thank you, a good one! - On this day in 1742, He was despised was performed for the first time, and when I wrote it in 2012, I didn't only think of Jesus (and now I think of you and RexxS and too many others). Andreas Scholl sang that for us, - you are invited to a Baroque stroll. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:20, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
More memories on the Main page today, Psalm 115 thinking of Yoninah, Christa Ludwig and Milva, - voices that made the Earth a better place. Sad that the psalm hook didn't appear on Earth Day as planned, but better pictured and late than going unnoticed ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:03, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi Kudpung! Would you be okay if I restored User:Kudpung/Article deletion and moved it elsewhere (since you evidentially don't want it in your userspace)? A couple admins link to it in their edit notice, myself included. -- TheSandDoctor Talk 21:14, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Hey, Kudpung! I was wondering if you'd be willing to take a quick gander at this to see if I've made any stupid mistakes? —valereee ( talk) 17:24, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
The term gap klaem is also used to refer to the Thai drinking culture in general. Not that anyone here in NE Thailand agrees with that. Most say that that aspect of the culture is dated.
beer [...] is consumed primarily by the well-to-do and for celebrations. IMO, false. Beer is typically drunk on any occasion and it is as popular here as anywhere else in the world, particularly Western countries. We have about 50 construction workers here from bricklayers to lorry drivers and they almost always sit together on the floor after work before going home, drinking beer and perhaps sharing one bottle of locally distilled rice schnapps for chasers. They might be snacking on buffalo beef jerky like one might occasionally have a bag of crisps or pork scratchings in a pub in the UK.
Many bars in Thailand are BYOB; customers pay for their mixers and food. Never heard of such a thing. People here are as less likely to take their own booze to a bar as Brits would to a pub.
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See my talk today, - it's rare that a person is pictured when a dream comes true, and that the picture is shown on the Main page on a meaningful day. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:02, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
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I hope you're well - I've mentioned you at ANI (hopefully you got a ping!), this is a courtesy note. Giant Snowman 19:14, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello Kudpung:
WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long
Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running until 31 July 2021.
Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is currently a backlog of over 3100 articles, so start reviewing articles. We're looking forward to your help!
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I wasn’t as versed as I currently am when arbcom took that action against you, so back then when I read it I couldn’t make heads or tale of what you all were saying, however I was hospitalized for a while last week and decided to do some reading, I revisited that thread and knowing what I know now, I can see how it was particularly unfair to you, whilst I mat not support certain actions you carried out particularly regarding GorillaWarfare and the tantrums you exhibited, I can however say without an iota of doubt that you were merely protecting the integrity of the encyclopedia. I see now that we share a similar ideology and a particular disdain for undisclosed paid editing. What I have learnt is, and this may be helpful to you(when I pray you return fully) is when leaving a UPE template on the Tp of an editor you should initiate a dialogue with the editor in question and whilst not spilling too much explain to them why you have left them the template, that way you wouldn’t be accused of “casting aspersions” or “making unfounded accusations” I can appreciate your frustration, as I have been in your shoes, in a recent ANI discussion where I was involved in, editors who I had correctly exposed for engaging in less than ethical practices saw the ANI opportunity as a way to get back at me and this mirrors exactly what you experienced in the Arbcom case. In retrospect I really do feel bad that happened to you, I mean you literally designed NPP and you were treated very unfairly. I hope you do come out of your semi retirement as your absence is felt. There’s is a dearth of anti UPE editors and I largely attribute that to the community vilifying anti UPE editors, and protecting “NEWBIES” who aren’t even “NEWBIES” honestly MER-C, is the only sysop holding down the forth. Please do return, I hope you consider this. Celestina007 ( talk) 00:26, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
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As this Wikimania finished yesterday, I got to wondering what you made of it. It was originally planned to be in Thailand but ended up in Remo – a virtual venue which is so obscure that it doesn't have an article. But all the presentations have or will be archived on YouTube so you can sample them there.
I found it to be mostly just another social media platform – like Discord, Facebook, Twitter, Zoom and the like. The physical experience of a place like HK was missing – going to the recent Wiknic in rural Kent was more of an exciting expedition. But it was a lot cheaper and more convenient too. If they do something like that again, I have some ideas for making more of it.
While checking to see if you're active, I noticed you editing county. I was recently commenting at a related AfD and, in the course of that, read interesting material like Tolkien and the Counties of England, which explained the great influence of Tolkien's childhood in Worcestershire – a county that you know well, I suppose. It's a small world ...
Andrew🐉( talk) 11:00, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi Kudpung. I understand you are a near-native speaker of German. I will be grateful if you will offer an English translation of the byline of this Deutsche Welle article, and as much as the remainder of the article as you have the inclination for (paragraphs 3, 4, 5 are the most relevant for WP purposes). It's for use in the article Julian Assange.
Google translate gives "A key witness for the indictment against the imprisoned Wikileaks founder revokes his testimony and MPs from almost all parties appeal to US President Joe Biden - but also to Chancellor Angela Merkel."
Thanks for your help. Cambial foliage❧ 12:55, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi Kudpung, I didn't want to derail stuff on Clem's talkpage by going off at a tangent, but I did want to say something in response to your last message there. I'm sorry you don't want to be involved any more, but obviously that's your choice.
I can't speak to the 'power-hungry teenagers' point, but the 'can't write a decent article' thing isn't, I think, entirely fair. I like to hope I know how to write a halfway-decent article myself, and content creation is the thing I like doing most of all here. But it's not the only important thing. If we were producing an actual hardcopy encyclopaedia, we wouldn't only need to employ writers and researchers. We'd need project managers, copy editors, type setters, IT people, someone to do the accounts, probably an intellectual property lawyer or two, maybe some security staff to watch the building at night, someone to clean the offices, etc. We too need a range of different skillsets in our editor base, and in our admin corps, and on arbcom.
If, for example, someone has first-rate IT skills and is exceedingly good at detecting socks, and they want to volunteer their time to stop LTAs who want to harass our writers or vandalise our content, then I don't give a monkey's whether they are a good, moderate or even very bad writer - I'm more than happy for them to have the administrative toolset, and the CU bit, because they will probably do more good for the project overall in 30 minutes' work than I did in all the hours I spent writing my latest FA on an obscure Scottish building. There are a number of very fine writers in the admin corps, and on the current arbcom, as there should be. There are also people with different skillsets, which is also as it should be, in my view. Cheers Girth Summit (blether) 11:40, 30 August 2021 (UTC)