Thank you for posting a note to me. My practice is to move comments back to your page so the discussion is in one place. I will see your responses there. - J JMesserly
(message moved to talk page for Sebastian 01:23, 5 December 2008 (UTC))
As a rule, every member of WP Enegy may assess any energy related article, so you are welcome to add assessment yourself. There is no problem to assess articles up to the level B. There are specific producers for GA and FA assessments and for A class assessment (quite rear in practice), the peer review and wider consensus are needed. Please see also Wikipedia:WikiProject Energy/Assessment. Beagel ( talk) 18:36, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
No problem. I figured it out after I checked out the Commons. Will reply over there, just been a busy day. -- Skeezix1000 ( talk) 21:06, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the creation of René Thury - I haven't found any biographical information on him elsewhere (and I wasn't even sure if he was Swiss or French!). I've also added him to the List of electrical engineers. I don't doubt that the railfans would want to know more about his work with electric traction, too. -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 19:18, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I see you were working on something on Mike Serfas's talk page--I didn't see it until after, when someone pointed it out. Someone on the main Obama talk suggested a Project, so I struck while the iron was hot: Wikipedia:WikiProject Barack Obama. Want to merge up? The principle goal I was seeing was to basically drive everything there to a minimum of Good Article, and then work from there once a Good Topic was in hand, for a Featured Topic drive over the months/years. But of course, there could be other sub things too! :) rootology ( C)( T) 20:40, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Comment from user Zodon ( talk) 19:49, 30 January 2009 (UTC) moved to User talk:Zodon#comment_on_content
Welcome, and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test on the page
Template:Start-date worked, and it has been
reverted or removed. Please take a look at the
welcome page to learn more about contributing to
this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment further, please use the
sandbox instead. Thank you.
SamB135 (
talk)
07:37, 5 February 2009 (UTC) If I appear to be wrong about this or you wish to comment on this warning,
please leave me a message.
It's always good to see editors interested in furthering the use of microformats on Wikipedia; and you clearly have some useful ideas to contribute; and time to work on them. Unfortunately, a number of your recent edits have corrupted articles, or emitted bad metadata (wrong dates, etc.) and have had to be reverted. Please conduct your testing in sandbox pages, and please discuss your work and collaborate with other interested editors, and propose incremental changes to existing templates, instead of creating duplicates. I have been working on adding microformats to Wikipedia since 2007, and have done so on hundreds of templates and thus many thousands of articles. I'm happy to offer assistance and advice. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 22:10, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Well if you can't identify whatever it is you think is wrong, then I can't fix it. - J JMesserly ( talk) 23:31, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Start-date: {{#iferror:<span style="display:none">{{#time: Y|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}</span>|Not recognized as a date. Years must have 4 digits (use leading zeros for years < 1000).|{{#iferror:{{Date-mf|{{{1|}}}|{{{2|}}} |up-date={{#ifeq:"{{{1|0009-11}}}"|"{{Four digit|{{#expr:{{{1|0009-11}}}}}}}"|<!--Here if Test1 satisfied: see talk --> {{#time:Y|{{#expr:{{{1|0009-11}}}+3000}}}}//{{#if:{{{BCE|{{{BC|}}}}}}|-1 year, |+1 year, }} |{{#iferror:{{#ifexpr:((abs({{{1|0009-11}}}))< 1900) and ({{#time:Y|{{{1|0009-11}}}}} >1900) | {{#ifexpr:({{#time:Y|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}) <2000|{{#expr:{{#time:Y|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}+1100}} |{{#expr:{{#time:Y|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}+1000}} }} |{{#expr:{{#time:Y|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}+3000}}}} |{{#expr:{{#time:Y|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}+3000}}}}<!--done with year --> {{#ifeq:{{#time:d H:i:s|{{{1|0009-11}}} }}|{{#iferror:{{#ifexpr:{{{1|0009-11}}}|{{#time:d}}}}|01}} 00:00:00 |{{#time:-m|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}/-m/+1 month, |{{#ifeq:{{#time:H:i:s|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}|00:00:00 |{{#time:-m-d|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}/-m-d/+1 day, |{{#ifeq:{{#time:i:s|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}|00:00|{{#time:-m-d H:00 |{{{1|0009-11}}}}}/-m-d TH/+1 hour, |{{#ifeq:{{#time:s|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}|00|{{#time:-m-d H:i |{{{1|0009-11}}}}}/-m-d TH:i/+1 minute, |{{#time:-m-d H:i:s|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}/-m-d TH:i:s/+1 second, }}}}}}}}}} |BCE={{{BCE|{{{BC|}}}}}} |ISO8601={{{ISO8601|}}} |class-extra={{{class-extra|}}}<!-- random extra classes to add eg:bday updated --> |class=dtstart |test={{{test|}}} }}|Did not recognize date. Try slightly modifying the date in the first parameter.}}}}<noinclude> {{documentation|Template:Start-date/doc}} [[Category:Templates generating hCalendars]]</noinclude>
I am working out some tough problems so we can have good microformat support on the wikipedias. All I ask is for you to take a little time to describe what you think is wrong, and show that what is happening now is widely regarded as incorrect according to recognized authorities. How does that sound?- J JMesserly ( talk) 03:02, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Please desist from adding hCalendar/ death dates to biographical infoboxes, until consensus establishes whether that should be done (and until the mediation you have initiated kicks in). Lives are not single events, but a series of events, starting with birth event and ending with a separate death event. This has already been explained to you, and you have already refereed elsewhere to the debate where the harm of your preferred model is explained. If you wish to debate this issue, I suggest using the existing discussion of the matter on the microformat project talk page, in which you are already participating. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 19:02, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Andy, I understand that you disagree with me, but it is pointless to make mass reverts of infobox changes have no visible harm based on unfounded assertions. [1], [2], [3] [4]. To date, you have refused to show that there is any perceptible harm for wikipedia users to using a technique of encoding that other sites use for encoding death date (discussion), nor have you provided any citation that the encoding that I have introduced is prohibited. If what you say is true about death dates and one day we will have death date in an hcard- that's great. We can do things that way then, and I'll even write the bot scripts/ template changes myself. I really don't care which encoding is used. What I don't understand is why it is necessary to remove wikipedia functionality due to your esoteric stands on which way is the most theoretically correct way of encoding things. What matters is what is practical. It makes no sense to me that users aren't able to click google or yahoo maps due to these sorts of objections to microcoding correctness. Let's submit our respective POVs to a mediator. I am eager to do so with the understanding that both of us agree in advance to be bound by its outcome. How does that sound? - J JMesserly ( talk) 21:06, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
(undent) Whether or not vandalism is the correct word for intentionally damaging functionality is a matter of interpretation of course. Mediation or arbitrators will I am sure determine the truth of the matter, so we can be patient. I suppose it has to do with intent, and I have said repeatedly that I believe you intend to be doing good, and that what you are trying to do is damage bad functionality. So from your POV you are making WP better. I get that. The problem is that I show the features deliver benefit to WP users, whereas you refuse to demonstrate any harm to them. So I think it is demonstrably the case that you aren't doing good despite your intentions. So if we should use another term for that sort of damage, then fair enough, propose another term and I'll use that. That is the only meaning I intended. Do you agree to binding mediation on the matter of how we settle microformats disputes? I would like to have this be a model for disputes over other future emerging formats, because as we both understand this is just the beginning. There are many more proposed microformats being discussed, and many folks will feel strongly on both sides of these sorts of arguments. Really- I don't care either way. If we had your dday thing today and Operator recognized it, my template would be emitting that. Pure practicality wins the day from my POV. - J JMesserly ( talk) 22:37, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
(undent)Andy, this tone is really unnecessary. I had just posted onto the talk page and noticed a refinement and did not anticipate you would so quickly respond. I became aware of your comment only after the edit conflict warning, and notified you of the situation. I had no nefarious intent. Regarding mediation, both User:Swift and I have proposed it. So far you have not indicated that you would like to proceed. Arbcom is not a threat in any way, and I am not trying to distract you from my errors I may or may not have made. We have an issue that we have not been able to resolve, and that is the mechanism of last resort. I would like to avoid last resorts, so let's make an effort at a mediation that both parties agree to be bound by. This has been my "formal proposal" for mediation. Swift has described the proposal and conditions of acceptance if you agree on your talk page. If you prefer instead we go the arbcom route, then let's proceed. I offer you the opportunity to initiate it if you prefer, but really I would like to exhaust other remedies first.
I agree you have described what could be considered by some to be a kind of harm, but what I was asking for is not for any alleged harm, but a harm that users can perceive impacts wikipedia functionality. You have not ever described this despite multiple requests. If you feel you have, then I request you move the description of this to some talk page under a new section name so that you can simply provide a link to it. That will also help others understand your response to my question. - J JMesserly ( talk) 16:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- J JMesserly ( talk) 16:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
←Andy, today you have reverted the same edits, and the situation is the same as it was. You have refused to provide any support for your argument this is not permitted, or that it constitutes harm (see WP talk:UF). Blocking these template changes means that contributors are forced to use the method of specifying biographical you prefer and have advocated in the microformats community, and so this is not really fair to those who differ with you. What is wrong with a live and let live approach on this issue? - J JMesserly ( talk) 20:58, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I see that you've made some recent edits to Template:Infobox_Skyscraper. If you could please take a look at Weston_Centre_(San_Antonio), where the article creator is trying to include the location parameter but it doesn't seem to be working. I've taken a look but haven't been able to figure it out. Thanks! shirulashem (talk) 01:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I find it rude to edit other people's comments, but:
1941-12-07
rather than 1941-12-07T00:00Z
. Also, for the second example wouldn't it make more sense to use 1941-12-07T17:43−10
as a microformat?-- A. di M. ( talk) 10:35, 9 February 2009 (UTC)1941-12-07
FYI, your change to Lunar Orbiter 1 resulted in a...well...I don't know what happened, but it broke the template: diff. I've changed to straight text, which is without question human readable. — Huntster ( t • @ • c) 05:54, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Please desist from replacing {{ Start date}} with {{ Start-date}}, as you did here and on many other pages, until you demonstrate a consensus to deprecate the former. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 14:46, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Your edit summary to Hercules (emulator) was confusing to someone who's not familiar with the intricacies of the current discussion. Just why is the result of {{start date|1999}}, "1999 ", not human readable? It sure looked that way to me before you changed it. -- Jay Maynard ( talk) 12:22, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
{{Start date|1999|2|24|df=yes}}
displays 24 February 1999{{Start-date|24 February 1999}}
displays 24 February 1999wikitext | display | microformat | |
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old | {{Start date|1963|11|22|19|00||-07:00|df=yes}} |
19:00, 22 November 1963 (-07:00) | (1963-11-22T19:00-07:00) |
new | {{start-date|22 November 1963 1pm CST}} |
22 November 1963 1pm CST | (1963-11-22 T19Z) |
J JMesserly ( t c) & Pigsonthewing ( t c), you guys are in an edit war. I'm not sure of the details, but you really should seek dispute resolution before an admin blocks both of you. Just a little friendly advice. shirulashem (talk) 21:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
I hope you don't feel I'm stepping on your toes. I expect your message— User:J JMesserly/start-date wtf—thoughtfully linked from your edit summary, will get a lot of interest. So I aimed to make the page more generally accessible and somewhat more formal. Thanks for doing this. Have you considered making a bot request? — EncMstr ( talk) 02:16, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
We're not getting anywhere. I've tried to reason with and help you. I've asked you to pause and discuss; all to no avail. I believe that you are currently harming Wikipedia much more than you are contributing to it; and that you probably believe the same about me. Hence: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Damage to microformats, which I'm sure will, regrettably, upset you almost as much as having to post that note has upset me. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 19:21, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
I noticed something with one of your pages that seemed strange... just wanted to make sure this is the actual user. -- Amaraiel Send Message 01:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Could you please direct me to the page where consensus was determined to make massive changes to the birth and death dates in biography infoboxes? Wildhartlivie ( talk) 06:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
(undent) Sorry to impose on Wildhartlive. I should perhaps have left this on my own page. Ok, so your question is, why not update the numeric format date templates (those without a dash- {{ start date}} {{ birth date}} {{ end date}} etc etc. to emit microformats (btw- some do, some don't)? The answer is that wikitext was created to make editing easy enough that anyone can be an editor, and template writers should not simply re-introduce that complexity to get their wizzy toys working. I recognize microformats templates are in that boat of "dubious value" templates. Granted, even {{ death date and age}} is not that hard to understand- You and I probably have little trouble figuring out what to change in
{{Death date and age|1993|2|24|1941|4|12|df=yes}}
It's pretty obvious which are years and what the earlier date is, so you really don't need to see the docs. But look- we aren't designing for joe cool wikitext hacker. If anything is intimidating for a grandmother, and there is a simpler way, then do it simpler. The real arcane encodings come when you start encoding time of day. In the above referenced MOSNUM discussion you will see one of the authors of the old {{ start date}} make two different errors in the example he gave on the JFK shooting. Ok, so we don't do time of day a whole lot, but why shouldn't we just express dates and times in free text both for dates and times? Why shift between one and the other? Seems to me that folks shouldn't have to go to a template doc screen to figure out how to specify a date. They already know how to do dates- why try to get them to do it a different way if we don't need to? And they can input it in euro format, American format, stick in day of the week, time zone, place etc etc. None of which the old templates do, and frankly you wouldn't want to do those features because the syntax is already Frankensteinian enough. Just take a look at the JFK example syntax:
wikitext | display | microformat | |
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old | {{Start date|1963|11|22|19|00||-07:00}} |
19:00, November 22, 1963 (-07:00) | (1963-11-22T19:00-07:00) |
new | {{start-date|November 22, 1963 1pm CST}} |
November 22, 1963 1pm CST | (1963-11-22 T19Z) |
Note the obscure double pipes in the old syntax, and the note that the values are wrong for two separate reasons- and this from someone reasonably conversant on the template. The bottom value requires no consultation of the documentation (a copy paste from an old news article would work) and is accurate. Really, I don't understand what argument there is in favor of the old syntax other than inertia. Am I mistaken? - J JMesserly ( talk) 17:19, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
I would like to ask you to stop making changes to the birth and death dates in infoboxes. After reviewing your page explaining why you are making the changes I understand you reasoning however this type of change needs to be voted on and agreed upon within the Wikipedia community. If it is agreed that this is needed then we should make the changes to the existing templates not create new ones. -- Kumioko ( talk) 01:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
(undent) This is probably of interest to the military history project. I have opened a thread there. I'd be interested in your feedback. - J JMesserly ( talk) 03:28, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
I came across one of these edits and made the following change: [5] (note the change to use the template that calculates the age of death). I found the use of two similarly named templates rather confusing. Birth date and death date versus birth-date and death-date: the hyphen is difficult to notice and not all editors will realise what change has been made. Carcharoth ( talk) 05:54, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Can you help me? I'm planing on tagging about a dozen or so articles with geographical coordinates of buildings, and I was wondering, do I need to list a proper source for the data. Because I have the information but I don't know an easy way of referencing it. If it matters I'm using the "coord" template. Thanks -- Awg1010 ( talk) 05:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Regarding football infobox doc- the discussion was moved to User talk:DoubleBlue.
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The Original Barnstar | |
For your recent interest in and improvement of so many articles on my watchlist ( Indiana articles), I award you this barnstar! Cheers! Charles Edward ( Talk) 14:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC) |
I cannot begin to describe how much less user friendly your new template is, never mind the confusion arising from a hyphen being the only differentiator. Surely it would have been much better if the existing template were simply edited in such a way that the current data entry format was read correctly (it does have a sandbox for testing), without creating the need to re-edit thousands of articles.
Also I see no pointers to any discussion on any of the relevant template talk pages. I assume a discussion has been held somewhere, and you are not just making changes blindly?
wjemather
bigissue
20:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
←There is a concensus that the new template is preferred. If you want to use the old syntax, use the old template. What's wrong with that? - J JMesserly ( talk) 18:11, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Death date and age|2008|12|10|2000|11|23|df=y}}
produces 10 December 2008 (aged 8)
Death-date and age|10 December 2008|23 November 2000}}
produces 10 December 2008 (aged 8)The template you added to this version of Leopold and Loeb [ [7]] contains an error in the death-date and age section. I'm not sure what the error was, but it meant that neither of these bits of date was displayed. I fixed the problem although, again, I'm not sure just where the problem lay. If you're going to be adding this template to many articles, you should make sure that it doesn't cause similar problems. I checked a number of your recent edits with this template, and they all seemed fine, but that might be because they show only death-date and not death-date plus age. (message unsigned, left by User:Interlingua talk
Do you have a generic disagreement with the use of any category navigation templates? You commented with your change that the nav template removed has "nothing to do with 1880s ships". You left the other nav template that allows navigation to other ships in other periods. How do you know a visitor trying to find an image on commons doesn't want some other category in the 1880s? - J JMesserly ( talk) 22:45, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
You script has taken the birth and death dates after the names of spouses and used them as if they were marriage date spans in many of the ones that were on my watchlist. If you multiply that by the number you changed I am sure there are tens of thousands of errors introduced. That was always a problem by not having (m. year-year) used earlier and as a standard for marriage span years. When I suggested it years ago it was rejected as "instruction creep". A percentage of all biographies have birth and death years after the spouse. I just checked everyone on my watchlist, and your script added the birth and death dates of the spouse as the marriage span, so I think you can estimate that a large portion of the ones changed were incorrect, since it made no distinction between them. -- Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) ( talk) 09:26, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Hello; thanks for your views on this subject. Would you be willing to repost the comments mentioned above on WikiProject Cricket's main discussion page at WT:CRIC? It seems to me that it's a subject which is of interest to people working on cricket articles generally, and your comments would reach a rather larger audience there. I've given my own views on the Template talk page nevertheless. Loganberry ( Talk) 14:48, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
There is a discussion about how to input map scale data in the {{ coord}} template here. If you have any interest in this you might want to join in. The idea is to scrap the idea a map scale and define the area of interest in terms of a linear dimension. I don't know if that kind of data is of interest in terms of hcards. I suggested that the data be inserted in generated web pages as a class but I don't know that much about it. -- droll [chat] 02:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I've never heard of its being a problem, certainly, and if such a case came up it would almost certainly get wide coverage in the sources I read regularly. That's not to say that there's no chance it ever could be an issue, but it shows no signs of being one at the moment. For example, Wisden Cricketers' Almanack devotes a hundred pages each year just to a register of past and present cricketers, including full dates (where known), and would have more if space weren't limited. Similarly, most of the English counties (the top level of domestic cricket here) integrate their official websites with CricketArchive, which gives full dates. I tend to think that if the main print work, the main online work and the player's employer all give full dates as a matter of course, it would actually be a bit odd for WP not to! Loganberry ( Talk) 16:10, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Wildhartlivie ( talk) 01:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I need to comment on something that has no bearing on what we are saying here, but does concern at least my response time to post. I have a vision disability that results in my taking more time than most others need to formulate a response to a post or in hunting for diffs in postings and finding past discussion. After a period of time, it causes sufficient headaches that I have to stop for a few hours. Just for purposes of clarity in case anyone should wonder why it takes so long for me to respond. I don't especially want to post that on community talk pages but I thought it should be noted. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 17:54, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Greetings. Are you still interested in Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MandelBot? If so, could you let us know the current status there? All the best, – Quadell ( talk) 14:11, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
The warning you made about this template was due to the fact that the persons age cannot be known with precision if the precise day of both birth and death is not known. Is that correct? If so, then if the day or month were omitted for either birth or death, would it be satisfactory for the template to state instead "Age (approx.):" ? - J JMesserly ( talk) 20:10, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
{{
death date and age}}
[
talk page]. -
J JMesserly (
talk)
01:53, 9 April 2009 (UTC)Nsaa ( talk) 21:23, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
From the title it looked like you intended the page you created at J JMesserly/tbd- julian errors to be in your userspace so I moved it to User:J JMesserly/tbd- julian errors. If this was not your intention I apologise, the redirect page created has been nominated for deletion and you should be able to move it back easily soon if that's what you want to do. Regards, Guest9999 ( talk) 18:03, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I requested that you refer to WP:CIVIL before, but now I am going to ask you to do so again. Please stop quoting other editors out of context, and twisting what they have said.
Your constant striking of proposal to be replaced with solution, suggests that I have changed my position, which as I have made perfectly clear is untrue. To dismiss my arguments as not serious is also unacceptable. I could go on, but won't. wjemather bigissue 07:47, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for all the copyright tagging support. It's all far more complicated than I thought. If Commons do decide to chuck them out for not complying with their laws (even though these NZ photographers would have ever sought US copyright, I'm sure, and would waive them if they could be raised from the dead long enough to sign the paper) perhaps WP will take them as Fair Use, considering they're PD in NZ, and there are no copyright holders? Gwinva ( talk) 05:07, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for waiting for my reply. I don't have an objection to converting the birth year templates if it is only on 590 articles. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 02:51, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm sure they're already used to that purpose. Has it all been changed? Tony (talk) 05:01, 29 April 2009 (UTC) PS Do you have examples of where these words are not used in the ways in which you set out in your post at MOSNUM talk? If so, they'd be necessary evidence to prompt a review of the whole guide WRT this usage; however, I fear that Anderson would step in and challenge every use of anything stronger than "may". He's been at this for a long time; I'm sorry if I seemed snappy before, but another Anderson war is just what I don't need at the moment. Tony (talk) 11:12, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Just a note to express thanks for the work you have been doing on various energy articles. I have observed many of your edits and they are sound improvements. Regards, - J JMesserly ( talk) 18:53, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi. As a participant of the WP:Energy, I would like to ask you to comment the request for tagging WP:Energy articles by bot. The list of potential categories for tagging is located here and the discussion about which categories should be excluded from this list, is going on at the WP:Energy talkpage here. Your comments are welcome. Beagel ( talk) 12:20, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi,
you have created this wonderful template Time and place is, I already have used for several cities. I am not very familiar with templates and I wonder how to get cities like Munich or Amsterdam to the list of "major cities in the xxxxs" or countries like the Netherlands to tle list of countries. greetz -- AnRo0002 ( talk) 20:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, The <span class="vcard"><span class="vevent"><span class="dtstart"><span class="dtend"><span class="fn org summary"> structure produced by the marriage/event templates overrides the intended values of the Infobox Person template when viewed with Operator (Firefox), Oomph (IE), or other browser microformat add-on. You can see the difference using one of these tools to view Einstein (no marriage template) and Edison (with marriage template). Do you know of any way to disable the fn and org class declarations (and possibly vcard) when the marriage/event template is applied within a biographical infobox table? TIA Rostdo ( talk) 19:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
I would have to muck with it to remember what it was I was doing and give you an intelligent answer. Is this going to help many users? I still don't see microformats in FireFox so the only people that have the ability to even see any difference is very small (operator users), right? J JMesserly ( talk) 00:47, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks again for the marriage template, I use it in every biography now. It solved that problem of confusing the birth and marriage years. Excellent job. -- Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) ( talk) 00:54, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering if you could assist me with an issue. On the Anglo-Saxon Wikipedia, we recently had a conflict about whether we should use certain characters to represent certain sound environments in writing, or not. (specifically, whether to use a special form of the letter g, ȝ, for the /j/ sound, or just a regular g, which can also be used for English "G") Ultimately, no agreement was made, and for now, we simply create duplicate pages, so that there will be no conflict about the issue. For example, the word ȝearƿe may also be written as gearwe, pronounced as yar-way.
The reason that many users make a distinction between the two types of G's, is that G may be pronounced as a standard G, or as a Y, depending on the environment. But often it's not always rather obvious as to how it's spoken, according to its own rules. C may sound like either k or ch, same idea, for instance. When coupled with a front vowel (i, e) then it is ch. When with a back vowel (a, o, u), it's k. But the Anglo-Saxon word for chicken is written as cicen. The rules would tell you that this is spoken as chi-chen, but it's chi-ken, just as in modern speech. We make this distinction with the letter C by using ċ for the ch sound, thus giving us ċicen. Some users greatly depend upon the ċ, others loathe it.
I thought that perhaps the {{#if: function could be helpful for this, or a customized version of it. Ideally, at the top of each page, there would be small "buttons" to press so that the user can choose to view which version of the page he is able to read the best. This is currently how we do it, but it requires making duplicate pages, as well as manually converting the characters for the secondary page. I felt that an auto-conversion for viewing would reduce the need for double-pages, as well as greatly reduce the effort to fulfill this solution.
The letters ȝ and g must be able to appear side-by-side on the first option, but appear as g and g on the second. The same with ƿ and w being together for the first, but appearing as w and w on the second. ċ and c on first, c and c on 2nd.
Since you seem to be familiar with the {{#if: funtion, I figured I would ask you. Your efforts are superbly appreciated by us all. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ ( ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 02:54, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Writing {{Death-date and age|29 March, 2001|30 December, 1899}}
in article
Helge Ingstad gives: 29 March, 2001 (aged 124). Clearly, the age should be 101, not 109. I'm going to leave the article with the template reference and hope that you fix it shortly.
Hgrosser (
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The bug is not that it spans 3 centuries, it's the comma in the death date field that trips up the template: {{Death-date and age|29 March 2001|30 December, 1899}}
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Hi, J JMesserly. I proposed to merge Category:Reliability interconnections to Category:Electric power transmission systems. You could comment it here. Beagel ( talk) 09:11, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello J JMesserly, in the NaviBox of Category:Altenbeken in the 2000s (and all other cities) links "About Altenbeken" always to this USA-Seite. Can You help me? Regards, -- R. Engelhardt ( talk) 21:14, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Someone has been mucking with the template and it no longer shows (m. 1890-1953). -- Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) ( talk) 06:17, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
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It's always good to see editors interested in furthering the use of microformats on Wikipedia; and you clearly have some useful ideas to contribute; and time to work on them. Unfortunately, a number of your recent edits have corrupted articles, or emitted bad metadata (wrong dates, etc.) and have had to be reverted. Please conduct your testing in sandbox pages, and please discuss your work and collaborate with other interested editors, and propose incremental changes to existing templates, instead of creating duplicates. I have been working on adding microformats to Wikipedia since 2007, and have done so on hundreds of templates and thus many thousands of articles. I'm happy to offer assistance and advice. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 22:10, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Well if you can't identify whatever it is you think is wrong, then I can't fix it. - J JMesserly ( talk) 23:31, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Start-date: {{#iferror:<span style="display:none">{{#time: Y|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}</span>|Not recognized as a date. Years must have 4 digits (use leading zeros for years < 1000).|{{#iferror:{{Date-mf|{{{1|}}}|{{{2|}}} |up-date={{#ifeq:"{{{1|0009-11}}}"|"{{Four digit|{{#expr:{{{1|0009-11}}}}}}}"|<!--Here if Test1 satisfied: see talk --> {{#time:Y|{{#expr:{{{1|0009-11}}}+3000}}}}//{{#if:{{{BCE|{{{BC|}}}}}}|-1 year, |+1 year, }} |{{#iferror:{{#ifexpr:((abs({{{1|0009-11}}}))< 1900) and ({{#time:Y|{{{1|0009-11}}}}} >1900) | {{#ifexpr:({{#time:Y|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}) <2000|{{#expr:{{#time:Y|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}+1100}} |{{#expr:{{#time:Y|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}+1000}} }} |{{#expr:{{#time:Y|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}+3000}}}} |{{#expr:{{#time:Y|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}+3000}}}}<!--done with year --> {{#ifeq:{{#time:d H:i:s|{{{1|0009-11}}} }}|{{#iferror:{{#ifexpr:{{{1|0009-11}}}|{{#time:d}}}}|01}} 00:00:00 |{{#time:-m|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}/-m/+1 month, |{{#ifeq:{{#time:H:i:s|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}|00:00:00 |{{#time:-m-d|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}/-m-d/+1 day, |{{#ifeq:{{#time:i:s|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}|00:00|{{#time:-m-d H:00 |{{{1|0009-11}}}}}/-m-d TH/+1 hour, |{{#ifeq:{{#time:s|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}|00|{{#time:-m-d H:i |{{{1|0009-11}}}}}/-m-d TH:i/+1 minute, |{{#time:-m-d H:i:s|{{{1|0009-11}}}}}/-m-d TH:i:s/+1 second, }}}}}}}}}} |BCE={{{BCE|{{{BC|}}}}}} |ISO8601={{{ISO8601|}}} |class-extra={{{class-extra|}}}<!-- random extra classes to add eg:bday updated --> |class=dtstart |test={{{test|}}} }}|Did not recognize date. Try slightly modifying the date in the first parameter.}}}}<noinclude> {{documentation|Template:Start-date/doc}} [[Category:Templates generating hCalendars]]</noinclude>
I am working out some tough problems so we can have good microformat support on the wikipedias. All I ask is for you to take a little time to describe what you think is wrong, and show that what is happening now is widely regarded as incorrect according to recognized authorities. How does that sound?- J JMesserly ( talk) 03:02, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Please desist from adding hCalendar/ death dates to biographical infoboxes, until consensus establishes whether that should be done (and until the mediation you have initiated kicks in). Lives are not single events, but a series of events, starting with birth event and ending with a separate death event. This has already been explained to you, and you have already refereed elsewhere to the debate where the harm of your preferred model is explained. If you wish to debate this issue, I suggest using the existing discussion of the matter on the microformat project talk page, in which you are already participating. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 19:02, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Andy, I understand that you disagree with me, but it is pointless to make mass reverts of infobox changes have no visible harm based on unfounded assertions. [1], [2], [3] [4]. To date, you have refused to show that there is any perceptible harm for wikipedia users to using a technique of encoding that other sites use for encoding death date (discussion), nor have you provided any citation that the encoding that I have introduced is prohibited. If what you say is true about death dates and one day we will have death date in an hcard- that's great. We can do things that way then, and I'll even write the bot scripts/ template changes myself. I really don't care which encoding is used. What I don't understand is why it is necessary to remove wikipedia functionality due to your esoteric stands on which way is the most theoretically correct way of encoding things. What matters is what is practical. It makes no sense to me that users aren't able to click google or yahoo maps due to these sorts of objections to microcoding correctness. Let's submit our respective POVs to a mediator. I am eager to do so with the understanding that both of us agree in advance to be bound by its outcome. How does that sound? - J JMesserly ( talk) 21:06, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
(undent) Whether or not vandalism is the correct word for intentionally damaging functionality is a matter of interpretation of course. Mediation or arbitrators will I am sure determine the truth of the matter, so we can be patient. I suppose it has to do with intent, and I have said repeatedly that I believe you intend to be doing good, and that what you are trying to do is damage bad functionality. So from your POV you are making WP better. I get that. The problem is that I show the features deliver benefit to WP users, whereas you refuse to demonstrate any harm to them. So I think it is demonstrably the case that you aren't doing good despite your intentions. So if we should use another term for that sort of damage, then fair enough, propose another term and I'll use that. That is the only meaning I intended. Do you agree to binding mediation on the matter of how we settle microformats disputes? I would like to have this be a model for disputes over other future emerging formats, because as we both understand this is just the beginning. There are many more proposed microformats being discussed, and many folks will feel strongly on both sides of these sorts of arguments. Really- I don't care either way. If we had your dday thing today and Operator recognized it, my template would be emitting that. Pure practicality wins the day from my POV. - J JMesserly ( talk) 22:37, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
(undent)Andy, this tone is really unnecessary. I had just posted onto the talk page and noticed a refinement and did not anticipate you would so quickly respond. I became aware of your comment only after the edit conflict warning, and notified you of the situation. I had no nefarious intent. Regarding mediation, both User:Swift and I have proposed it. So far you have not indicated that you would like to proceed. Arbcom is not a threat in any way, and I am not trying to distract you from my errors I may or may not have made. We have an issue that we have not been able to resolve, and that is the mechanism of last resort. I would like to avoid last resorts, so let's make an effort at a mediation that both parties agree to be bound by. This has been my "formal proposal" for mediation. Swift has described the proposal and conditions of acceptance if you agree on your talk page. If you prefer instead we go the arbcom route, then let's proceed. I offer you the opportunity to initiate it if you prefer, but really I would like to exhaust other remedies first.
I agree you have described what could be considered by some to be a kind of harm, but what I was asking for is not for any alleged harm, but a harm that users can perceive impacts wikipedia functionality. You have not ever described this despite multiple requests. If you feel you have, then I request you move the description of this to some talk page under a new section name so that you can simply provide a link to it. That will also help others understand your response to my question. - J JMesserly ( talk) 16:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- J JMesserly ( talk) 16:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
←Andy, today you have reverted the same edits, and the situation is the same as it was. You have refused to provide any support for your argument this is not permitted, or that it constitutes harm (see WP talk:UF). Blocking these template changes means that contributors are forced to use the method of specifying biographical you prefer and have advocated in the microformats community, and so this is not really fair to those who differ with you. What is wrong with a live and let live approach on this issue? - J JMesserly ( talk) 20:58, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I see that you've made some recent edits to Template:Infobox_Skyscraper. If you could please take a look at Weston_Centre_(San_Antonio), where the article creator is trying to include the location parameter but it doesn't seem to be working. I've taken a look but haven't been able to figure it out. Thanks! shirulashem (talk) 01:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I find it rude to edit other people's comments, but:
1941-12-07
rather than 1941-12-07T00:00Z
. Also, for the second example wouldn't it make more sense to use 1941-12-07T17:43−10
as a microformat?-- A. di M. ( talk) 10:35, 9 February 2009 (UTC)1941-12-07
FYI, your change to Lunar Orbiter 1 resulted in a...well...I don't know what happened, but it broke the template: diff. I've changed to straight text, which is without question human readable. — Huntster ( t • @ • c) 05:54, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Please desist from replacing {{ Start date}} with {{ Start-date}}, as you did here and on many other pages, until you demonstrate a consensus to deprecate the former. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 14:46, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Your edit summary to Hercules (emulator) was confusing to someone who's not familiar with the intricacies of the current discussion. Just why is the result of {{start date|1999}}, "1999 ", not human readable? It sure looked that way to me before you changed it. -- Jay Maynard ( talk) 12:22, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
{{Start date|1999|2|24|df=yes}}
displays 24 February 1999{{Start-date|24 February 1999}}
displays 24 February 1999wikitext | display | microformat | |
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old | {{Start date|1963|11|22|19|00||-07:00|df=yes}} |
19:00, 22 November 1963 (-07:00) | (1963-11-22T19:00-07:00) |
new | {{start-date|22 November 1963 1pm CST}} |
22 November 1963 1pm CST | (1963-11-22 T19Z) |
J JMesserly ( t c) & Pigsonthewing ( t c), you guys are in an edit war. I'm not sure of the details, but you really should seek dispute resolution before an admin blocks both of you. Just a little friendly advice. shirulashem (talk) 21:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
I hope you don't feel I'm stepping on your toes. I expect your message— User:J JMesserly/start-date wtf—thoughtfully linked from your edit summary, will get a lot of interest. So I aimed to make the page more generally accessible and somewhat more formal. Thanks for doing this. Have you considered making a bot request? — EncMstr ( talk) 02:16, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
We're not getting anywhere. I've tried to reason with and help you. I've asked you to pause and discuss; all to no avail. I believe that you are currently harming Wikipedia much more than you are contributing to it; and that you probably believe the same about me. Hence: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Damage to microformats, which I'm sure will, regrettably, upset you almost as much as having to post that note has upset me. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 19:21, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
I noticed something with one of your pages that seemed strange... just wanted to make sure this is the actual user. -- Amaraiel Send Message 01:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Could you please direct me to the page where consensus was determined to make massive changes to the birth and death dates in biography infoboxes? Wildhartlivie ( talk) 06:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
(undent) Sorry to impose on Wildhartlive. I should perhaps have left this on my own page. Ok, so your question is, why not update the numeric format date templates (those without a dash- {{ start date}} {{ birth date}} {{ end date}} etc etc. to emit microformats (btw- some do, some don't)? The answer is that wikitext was created to make editing easy enough that anyone can be an editor, and template writers should not simply re-introduce that complexity to get their wizzy toys working. I recognize microformats templates are in that boat of "dubious value" templates. Granted, even {{ death date and age}} is not that hard to understand- You and I probably have little trouble figuring out what to change in
{{Death date and age|1993|2|24|1941|4|12|df=yes}}
It's pretty obvious which are years and what the earlier date is, so you really don't need to see the docs. But look- we aren't designing for joe cool wikitext hacker. If anything is intimidating for a grandmother, and there is a simpler way, then do it simpler. The real arcane encodings come when you start encoding time of day. In the above referenced MOSNUM discussion you will see one of the authors of the old {{ start date}} make two different errors in the example he gave on the JFK shooting. Ok, so we don't do time of day a whole lot, but why shouldn't we just express dates and times in free text both for dates and times? Why shift between one and the other? Seems to me that folks shouldn't have to go to a template doc screen to figure out how to specify a date. They already know how to do dates- why try to get them to do it a different way if we don't need to? And they can input it in euro format, American format, stick in day of the week, time zone, place etc etc. None of which the old templates do, and frankly you wouldn't want to do those features because the syntax is already Frankensteinian enough. Just take a look at the JFK example syntax:
wikitext | display | microformat | |
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old | {{Start date|1963|11|22|19|00||-07:00}} |
19:00, November 22, 1963 (-07:00) | (1963-11-22T19:00-07:00) |
new | {{start-date|November 22, 1963 1pm CST}} |
November 22, 1963 1pm CST | (1963-11-22 T19Z) |
Note the obscure double pipes in the old syntax, and the note that the values are wrong for two separate reasons- and this from someone reasonably conversant on the template. The bottom value requires no consultation of the documentation (a copy paste from an old news article would work) and is accurate. Really, I don't understand what argument there is in favor of the old syntax other than inertia. Am I mistaken? - J JMesserly ( talk) 17:19, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
I would like to ask you to stop making changes to the birth and death dates in infoboxes. After reviewing your page explaining why you are making the changes I understand you reasoning however this type of change needs to be voted on and agreed upon within the Wikipedia community. If it is agreed that this is needed then we should make the changes to the existing templates not create new ones. -- Kumioko ( talk) 01:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
(undent) This is probably of interest to the military history project. I have opened a thread there. I'd be interested in your feedback. - J JMesserly ( talk) 03:28, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
I came across one of these edits and made the following change: [5] (note the change to use the template that calculates the age of death). I found the use of two similarly named templates rather confusing. Birth date and death date versus birth-date and death-date: the hyphen is difficult to notice and not all editors will realise what change has been made. Carcharoth ( talk) 05:54, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Can you help me? I'm planing on tagging about a dozen or so articles with geographical coordinates of buildings, and I was wondering, do I need to list a proper source for the data. Because I have the information but I don't know an easy way of referencing it. If it matters I'm using the "coord" template. Thanks -- Awg1010 ( talk) 05:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Regarding football infobox doc- the discussion was moved to User talk:DoubleBlue.
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The Original Barnstar | |
For your recent interest in and improvement of so many articles on my watchlist ( Indiana articles), I award you this barnstar! Cheers! Charles Edward ( Talk) 14:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC) |
I cannot begin to describe how much less user friendly your new template is, never mind the confusion arising from a hyphen being the only differentiator. Surely it would have been much better if the existing template were simply edited in such a way that the current data entry format was read correctly (it does have a sandbox for testing), without creating the need to re-edit thousands of articles.
Also I see no pointers to any discussion on any of the relevant template talk pages. I assume a discussion has been held somewhere, and you are not just making changes blindly?
wjemather
bigissue
20:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
←There is a concensus that the new template is preferred. If you want to use the old syntax, use the old template. What's wrong with that? - J JMesserly ( talk) 18:11, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Death date and age|2008|12|10|2000|11|23|df=y}}
produces 10 December 2008 (aged 8)
Death-date and age|10 December 2008|23 November 2000}}
produces 10 December 2008 (aged 8)The template you added to this version of Leopold and Loeb [ [7]] contains an error in the death-date and age section. I'm not sure what the error was, but it meant that neither of these bits of date was displayed. I fixed the problem although, again, I'm not sure just where the problem lay. If you're going to be adding this template to many articles, you should make sure that it doesn't cause similar problems. I checked a number of your recent edits with this template, and they all seemed fine, but that might be because they show only death-date and not death-date plus age. (message unsigned, left by User:Interlingua talk
Do you have a generic disagreement with the use of any category navigation templates? You commented with your change that the nav template removed has "nothing to do with 1880s ships". You left the other nav template that allows navigation to other ships in other periods. How do you know a visitor trying to find an image on commons doesn't want some other category in the 1880s? - J JMesserly ( talk) 22:45, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
You script has taken the birth and death dates after the names of spouses and used them as if they were marriage date spans in many of the ones that were on my watchlist. If you multiply that by the number you changed I am sure there are tens of thousands of errors introduced. That was always a problem by not having (m. year-year) used earlier and as a standard for marriage span years. When I suggested it years ago it was rejected as "instruction creep". A percentage of all biographies have birth and death years after the spouse. I just checked everyone on my watchlist, and your script added the birth and death dates of the spouse as the marriage span, so I think you can estimate that a large portion of the ones changed were incorrect, since it made no distinction between them. -- Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) ( talk) 09:26, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Hello; thanks for your views on this subject. Would you be willing to repost the comments mentioned above on WikiProject Cricket's main discussion page at WT:CRIC? It seems to me that it's a subject which is of interest to people working on cricket articles generally, and your comments would reach a rather larger audience there. I've given my own views on the Template talk page nevertheless. Loganberry ( Talk) 14:48, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
There is a discussion about how to input map scale data in the {{ coord}} template here. If you have any interest in this you might want to join in. The idea is to scrap the idea a map scale and define the area of interest in terms of a linear dimension. I don't know if that kind of data is of interest in terms of hcards. I suggested that the data be inserted in generated web pages as a class but I don't know that much about it. -- droll [chat] 02:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I've never heard of its being a problem, certainly, and if such a case came up it would almost certainly get wide coverage in the sources I read regularly. That's not to say that there's no chance it ever could be an issue, but it shows no signs of being one at the moment. For example, Wisden Cricketers' Almanack devotes a hundred pages each year just to a register of past and present cricketers, including full dates (where known), and would have more if space weren't limited. Similarly, most of the English counties (the top level of domestic cricket here) integrate their official websites with CricketArchive, which gives full dates. I tend to think that if the main print work, the main online work and the player's employer all give full dates as a matter of course, it would actually be a bit odd for WP not to! Loganberry ( Talk) 16:10, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Wildhartlivie ( talk) 01:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I need to comment on something that has no bearing on what we are saying here, but does concern at least my response time to post. I have a vision disability that results in my taking more time than most others need to formulate a response to a post or in hunting for diffs in postings and finding past discussion. After a period of time, it causes sufficient headaches that I have to stop for a few hours. Just for purposes of clarity in case anyone should wonder why it takes so long for me to respond. I don't especially want to post that on community talk pages but I thought it should be noted. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 17:54, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Greetings. Are you still interested in Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MandelBot? If so, could you let us know the current status there? All the best, – Quadell ( talk) 14:11, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
The warning you made about this template was due to the fact that the persons age cannot be known with precision if the precise day of both birth and death is not known. Is that correct? If so, then if the day or month were omitted for either birth or death, would it be satisfactory for the template to state instead "Age (approx.):" ? - J JMesserly ( talk) 20:10, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
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death date and age}}
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J JMesserly (
talk)
01:53, 9 April 2009 (UTC)Nsaa ( talk) 21:23, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
From the title it looked like you intended the page you created at J JMesserly/tbd- julian errors to be in your userspace so I moved it to User:J JMesserly/tbd- julian errors. If this was not your intention I apologise, the redirect page created has been nominated for deletion and you should be able to move it back easily soon if that's what you want to do. Regards, Guest9999 ( talk) 18:03, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I requested that you refer to WP:CIVIL before, but now I am going to ask you to do so again. Please stop quoting other editors out of context, and twisting what they have said.
Your constant striking of proposal to be replaced with solution, suggests that I have changed my position, which as I have made perfectly clear is untrue. To dismiss my arguments as not serious is also unacceptable. I could go on, but won't. wjemather bigissue 07:47, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for all the copyright tagging support. It's all far more complicated than I thought. If Commons do decide to chuck them out for not complying with their laws (even though these NZ photographers would have ever sought US copyright, I'm sure, and would waive them if they could be raised from the dead long enough to sign the paper) perhaps WP will take them as Fair Use, considering they're PD in NZ, and there are no copyright holders? Gwinva ( talk) 05:07, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for waiting for my reply. I don't have an objection to converting the birth year templates if it is only on 590 articles. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 02:51, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm sure they're already used to that purpose. Has it all been changed? Tony (talk) 05:01, 29 April 2009 (UTC) PS Do you have examples of where these words are not used in the ways in which you set out in your post at MOSNUM talk? If so, they'd be necessary evidence to prompt a review of the whole guide WRT this usage; however, I fear that Anderson would step in and challenge every use of anything stronger than "may". He's been at this for a long time; I'm sorry if I seemed snappy before, but another Anderson war is just what I don't need at the moment. Tony (talk) 11:12, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Just a note to express thanks for the work you have been doing on various energy articles. I have observed many of your edits and they are sound improvements. Regards, - J JMesserly ( talk) 18:53, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi. As a participant of the WP:Energy, I would like to ask you to comment the request for tagging WP:Energy articles by bot. The list of potential categories for tagging is located here and the discussion about which categories should be excluded from this list, is going on at the WP:Energy talkpage here. Your comments are welcome. Beagel ( talk) 12:20, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi,
you have created this wonderful template Time and place is, I already have used for several cities. I am not very familiar with templates and I wonder how to get cities like Munich or Amsterdam to the list of "major cities in the xxxxs" or countries like the Netherlands to tle list of countries. greetz -- AnRo0002 ( talk) 20:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, The <span class="vcard"><span class="vevent"><span class="dtstart"><span class="dtend"><span class="fn org summary"> structure produced by the marriage/event templates overrides the intended values of the Infobox Person template when viewed with Operator (Firefox), Oomph (IE), or other browser microformat add-on. You can see the difference using one of these tools to view Einstein (no marriage template) and Edison (with marriage template). Do you know of any way to disable the fn and org class declarations (and possibly vcard) when the marriage/event template is applied within a biographical infobox table? TIA Rostdo ( talk) 19:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
I would have to muck with it to remember what it was I was doing and give you an intelligent answer. Is this going to help many users? I still don't see microformats in FireFox so the only people that have the ability to even see any difference is very small (operator users), right? J JMesserly ( talk) 00:47, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks again for the marriage template, I use it in every biography now. It solved that problem of confusing the birth and marriage years. Excellent job. -- Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) ( talk) 00:54, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering if you could assist me with an issue. On the Anglo-Saxon Wikipedia, we recently had a conflict about whether we should use certain characters to represent certain sound environments in writing, or not. (specifically, whether to use a special form of the letter g, ȝ, for the /j/ sound, or just a regular g, which can also be used for English "G") Ultimately, no agreement was made, and for now, we simply create duplicate pages, so that there will be no conflict about the issue. For example, the word ȝearƿe may also be written as gearwe, pronounced as yar-way.
The reason that many users make a distinction between the two types of G's, is that G may be pronounced as a standard G, or as a Y, depending on the environment. But often it's not always rather obvious as to how it's spoken, according to its own rules. C may sound like either k or ch, same idea, for instance. When coupled with a front vowel (i, e) then it is ch. When with a back vowel (a, o, u), it's k. But the Anglo-Saxon word for chicken is written as cicen. The rules would tell you that this is spoken as chi-chen, but it's chi-ken, just as in modern speech. We make this distinction with the letter C by using ċ for the ch sound, thus giving us ċicen. Some users greatly depend upon the ċ, others loathe it.
I thought that perhaps the {{#if: function could be helpful for this, or a customized version of it. Ideally, at the top of each page, there would be small "buttons" to press so that the user can choose to view which version of the page he is able to read the best. This is currently how we do it, but it requires making duplicate pages, as well as manually converting the characters for the secondary page. I felt that an auto-conversion for viewing would reduce the need for double-pages, as well as greatly reduce the effort to fulfill this solution.
The letters ȝ and g must be able to appear side-by-side on the first option, but appear as g and g on the second. The same with ƿ and w being together for the first, but appearing as w and w on the second. ċ and c on first, c and c on 2nd.
Since you seem to be familiar with the {{#if: funtion, I figured I would ask you. Your efforts are superbly appreciated by us all. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ ( ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 02:54, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Writing {{Death-date and age|29 March, 2001|30 December, 1899}}
in article
Helge Ingstad gives: 29 March, 2001 (aged 124). Clearly, the age should be 101, not 109. I'm going to leave the article with the template reference and hope that you fix it shortly.
Hgrosser (
talk)
01:30, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
The bug is not that it spans 3 centuries, it's the comma in the death date field that trips up the template: {{Death-date and age|29 March 2001|30 December, 1899}}
shows correctly as 29 March 2001 (aged 101).
Hgrosser (
talk)
01:46, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi, J JMesserly. I proposed to merge Category:Reliability interconnections to Category:Electric power transmission systems. You could comment it here. Beagel ( talk) 09:11, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello J JMesserly, in the NaviBox of Category:Altenbeken in the 2000s (and all other cities) links "About Altenbeken" always to this USA-Seite. Can You help me? Regards, -- R. Engelhardt ( talk) 21:14, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Someone has been mucking with the template and it no longer shows (m. 1890-1953). -- Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) ( talk) 06:17, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
-- Kumioko ( talk) 18:02, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
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Hi. The article ' List of HVDC projects' has a dead link that could not be repaired automatically. Can you help fix it?
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Hello. I'm interested in attempting to put together an edit-a-thon for Hawaiian cultural topics something during the Makahiki festival perhaps around the month of November. The hope is that our lackluster coverage of Hawaiian mythology could be improved with help from the Bishop Museum, Hawaii Pacific University, and the Honolulu public library. I am in the process of making initial contacts with these organizations as well as Wikimedia DC's GLAM project. If this sounds like something you might be interested in participating in, or perhaps helping to coordinate, could you please add your name to 2014 Makahiki Edit-a-thon?--v/r - T P 07:43, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
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