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Hi there. I'm leaving you this message since you were the administrator that left Kvrk4000 this message. Seems like rather than listen, Kvrk4000 created a sock and continues the same behaviour. I opened SPI for the sock, but I thought, considering your message, that you might want to take further action regarding the edit warring. Best regards. -- Muhandes ( talk) 12:16, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks for the support at User talk:Reaper Eternal. I've been involved in a number of edits over the last few weeks that have literally caused me to wonder if I accidentally logged into Bizarro Wikipedia. Your comment means more than you might realize. Your post helps convince me I'm not alone. SPhilbrick T 21:09, 15 August 2011 (UTC) |
But you still have a long way to go to catch up with El C. Risker ( talk) 16:17, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for blocking RonaldMerchant. For your information, I added a comment: User talk:RonaldMerchant#Indef block. Cheers, Zero talk 08:13, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Unbelievable: [2]. Frankly it's a permanent community ban of this user we should be discussing, not the removal of some rant on his userpage.... *sigh* 2.121.29.24 ( talk) 20:42, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Floquenbeam,
Actually, I didn't vote on the DRV and it's acceptable to NAC a snow close. That being said, I did say any admin was free to revert me, and I'll stand by that. I'll point out that the instructions on that page never say anything about being neutral, just that you close base on consensus and in the case of non-admin closes, (as mine was ) that it cannot be a close that I can't carry out (like delete).
So we're clear, I won't revert your re-opening of the DRV per my edit summary, however, I'm not too happy with your choice of words on my talk page:
You can't possibly be seen as a neutral closer. If that isn't obvious to you, then you may not have the judgement necessary to close any discussion here. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 12:10, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
This is more like commenting on the commenter, not the content. Please be more careful in the future (and read IAR as well - and yes, I do claim both Consensus and IAR on that close. @- Kosh ► Talk to the Vorlons► Markab-@ 12:59, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Before you blocked him he posted to my talk page saying sorry he wouldn't vandalise any more. Dougweller ( talk) 15:51, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
I modified the closed discussion because I was in the middle of composing my message and didn't know it had been closed. My apologies. If you want to remove my edit, feel free. I also regret going to all the trouble of my extended explanation, not knowing that Sillystuff had been indefinitely blocked. Oh, well.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 16:41, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your words of encouragement, you are the first one to communicate with me in a collegial and helpful manner. I am a member of the center and did try to get the name unblocked (murrowcenter) through normal channels to no avail. This has been a frustrating experience to say the least. Apparently when an account name is blocked I cant discuss it through the discussion board. I am new to Wikipedia and this has been an interesting experience.
Ericwilliamh ( talk) 23:45, 20 September 2011 (UTC)murrowcenter Ericwilliamh ( talk) 23:45, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the notes.
Ericwilliamh ( talk) 00:15, 21 September 2011 (UTC)Ericwilliamh Ericwilliamh ( talk) 00:15, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Pop! ~~ Lothar von Richthofen ( talk) 14:49, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm really sorry for my behaviour. i guess m just frustrated because i'm new here and don't know how to deal with deletions of my contributions properly..sorry again! -- Heyhello1234567 ( talk) 14:08, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
I just got a perplexed phone call from our Word Processing Dept, asking why a document I sent them had occasional words in doubled single-quotes (''like this''
). To which I replied, "because I want them italicized, of course". Right after I said the words "of course", it dawned on me that this makes absolutely no sense to normal humans. --
Floquenbeam (
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Thank you Floquenbeam. Good call. Take care. Dr.K. λogos πraxis 17:01, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks also for sticking around long enough to block Kevinchen(rui) ( talk · contribs). I have a nasty feeling that's a sock. — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 21:31, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
I added a WP:3O for ODB++ but it looks like my request is the only one there. Surely that can't be right? There must be a ton of them? What did I do wrong? Woz2 ( talk) 18:04, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks for stepping in the ODB++ edit dispute I allowed myself to get sucked into. I'm going to try to stay cool in future. Woz2 ( talk) 17:01, 1 October 2011 (UTC) |
This comment was particularly directed at you. ╟─ Treasury Tag► Osbert─╢ 07:45, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
In the future, I would appreciate it very much if you took the time to contact me directly – or at least to seek a third opinion at AN/I or another appropriate venue – before making an unsolicited offer to overturn one of my blocks.
Aside from being required by policy, such notification and discussion is a matter of basic courtesy. TenOfAllTrades( talk) 18:37, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm interested in re-starting that article. -- Shirt58 ( talk) 13:17, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Re, your message; yes. Please and thank you.— Dæ dαlus + Contribs 21:40, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
There was a bug in MediaWiki 1.18 that caused blocks made via the API to have talk page access disabled when it should have been enabled. This also affected scripts such as User:Animum/easyblock.js. Please review the following blocks to make sure that you really intended talk page access to be disabled, and reblock if necessary.
If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to post at User talk:Anomie#Allowusertalk issue. Thanks! Anomie ⚔ 02:05, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
See here. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen ( talk) 15:19, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
I reverted your edit on his talk page here as we walked on each other during reverting. Calabe1992 ( talk) 00:18, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for blocking User:IMASTUPIDNAME. I believe him to be a sock of User:IMAFAKENAME, blocked earlier today. Due to this, I submitted a c/u request at Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/IMAFAKENAME. Could you confirm that I factored that properly? Purpleback pack 89≈≈≈≈ 01:42, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Recently, I request an account block for User:Serna137 for additions to the article Quantum key distribution. The article has since come out of semi-protection and the author is back to adding the content with an IP address. It's OR, likely self-promotion, and he hasn't responded to our concerns in the talk page. I'm not sure where I should go from here. Request semi-protection again? Looking at the article history, this has been as issue since July 2010. Is there anyway to block the content itself? Skippydo ( talk) 15:10, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
for handling the attacker well. I was going to go to WP:ANI, but I did not know the appropriate procedures. — WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 19:45, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
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Okay, seriously, forgive me for the sarcastic, dismissive, dickish comment I just left, and for implying that you were a "lackey" in the first place— both comments were unnecessary, unproductive, and obviously destroyed any chance of effectively delivering the overall point I was trying to make. I could have done so without inflammatory name calling, hyperbole and sarcasm. Occasionally becoming uncivil myself in response to incivility is one of my many flaws, and as TParis said, I have no desire whatsoever to see divisions created amongst ourselves. Swarm X 20:57, 27 October 2011 (UTC) |
Floquenbeam,
Actually, I do. The gentleman in question never said his name, therefore any attempt to guess his name by whatever else is on his page is outing, per policy. Please read WP:OUTING it explains what outing is and that we are not allowed to "Guess" a user's name by any means. Also, let's not threaten with blocks. I'm following policy in this case. @- Kosh ► Talk to the Vorlons► Moon Base Alpha-@ 20:01, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Sorry Floquenbeam, I've read his contribs (at the moment back to Oct 4.) He NEVER says his name. Nor has anyone posted a diff where he has. WP:OUTING is explicit that his identity can't be guessed at, assumed etc.... Either shows a diff of him saying his name or retract your threat, it's that simple. @- Kosh ► Talk to the Vorlons► Moon Base Alpha-@ 20:10, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
They have explained they "THINK" it's him based on what's on his webpage. Again, he NEVER identifies himself, they never offer diffs showing that he did, therefore it's outing. Once again, diffs or retract your threat @- Kosh ► Talk to the Vorlons► Moon Base Alpha-@ 20:22, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Basically, I've been following your talk-page for a while now, and I decided you needed a companion. So here is one for you. They're cute! And provide unconditional love. Just watch out for the pee on the carpet.
Panyd
The muffin is not subtle
22:56, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello I apologize for all that editing. I have added something to the discussion section of Maxwells demon to get it okayed with others. However it was Wknight94 who kept undoing my post saying it was unverifiable when I did cite it and is verifiable. The thing that bothered me most is that even though the other posts where unverifiable and had no citations (in the criticism and dev) sections she did not delete those. When I asked her about them she said I was free to delete them on the same basis of unverifiable. This shows a tremendous unprofessional bias. I asked how to edit so it could be considered verifiable but Wknight94 never gave me a reply and only kept deleting. This is also very unprofessional.
However thank you for taking the time to message me. I appreciate ur concern for wikipedia, as I also value it very much (free information) and wish to contribute to make it better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlanS333 ( talk • contribs) 19:40, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately, having looked at what you're trying to add, I don't think there is a way to make it verifiable. It looks like it came from a paper you wrote, that has not been peer reviewed or otherwise meet the requirements of WP:RS. Am I correct? If I've misunderstood, please let me know. Even if you have discovered something new and correct, there will be quite a delay in publishing it in Wikipedia, because as a tertiary source, we are intentionally behind the cutting edge; we republish information that has already made it through secondary sources.
Wknight isn't really being unreasonable here. He isn't being facetious; if you find other material in the article that is wrong and unsourced, you really can either take it out, or (if you're tired of arguing) mention what specifically you're concerned about on the article talk page. Since you're new, I'd suggest being a little careful if it's a borderline call, and do it on the talk page first. If you think it's correct but unsourced, you can either look for a source, or put {{ fact}} next to the item in question. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 19:51, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
It is not my interest to have things published in cutting edge magazines. I wrote it on wikipedia because I want to inform other readers. I think it is a beneficial addition to the article as it provides another point on view for readers to view. It has been "peer reviewed" however not in the scientific sense as I do not intend to put it in any magazine. Regardless it is a published article, and i'm pretty sure it meets the requirements to be in wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlanS333 ( talk • contribs) 20:35, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
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For remembering that the role of an admin is to defend the Wikipedia, not to harass the editors. GRuban ( talk) 04:32, 13 November 2011 (UTC) |
Hi, Floquenbeam. Per your talk page notice, I'm letting you know I'm unblocking TCO's retired user alter ego. Then I will leave a note on WP:BN for a crat to earn their big bucks by merging the histories or whatever. Long time no see, hope you are well.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 18:31, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Floquenstein. In view of your input on Maunus' page, perhaps you'd like to consider adding yourself to Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to consider placing self-requested blocks? I realise you're semi-retired ( :-( ), but in my experience as a member of the category, it doesn't bring in any droves of customers. Especially after I've told people I go largely by LessHeard's rules for placing such blocks. See also this post. Regards, Bishonen | talk 20:12, 12 December 2011 (UTC).
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I do not intend to be condescending, and I offer this advice to you without any expectation as to whether you'll take it, but your approach to the incident at the above page strikes me as wholly unnecessary. Barts1a might be under (some sort of) editing restriction, but he was trying to help out, and I even see his point. Non-admins are permitted to close XFDs, so how would one know they are prohibited from declining unblock requests (if indeed they are - I'm not aware of such an explicit policy)? You may have had a bad day at the office, misjudged the situation, or something else entirely; I don't know, and I don't much care, but please don't speak to another contributor in that way. AGK [•] 22:38, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Why? So you can call your friends to pile on me there? Barts1a / What did I actually do right? / What did I do wrong this time? 23:33, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Floq. Maybe I shouldn't have done this, being involved, but I blocked 75.21.152.168 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) as a self-confessed block evasion of User:Djathinkimacowboy. Whole thing is rather absurd. Favonian ( talk) 23:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
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I hope you like beer, because through my casual observation it looks like you've earned one recently. Cheers! Erikeltic ( Talk) 03:44, 27 January 2012 (UTC) |
I was trying to help clear the unblock request backlog by declining blatantly false unblock requests and unblock requests which do not even attempt to address the reasons for the block such as the one here. I noticed that after you undid my edit another admin came to the same conclusion (Minus the illegitimate unblock request part; which is probably why you undid it in the first place). Barts1a / What did I actually do right? / What did I do wrong this time? 03:53, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Aye, sure, go for it. :) — Joseph Fox 03:56, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
I thought you might find this interesting - he's removed my comments from his talk page, since after claiming you were "completely mistaken" about him being warned about making unfounded sockpuppet accusations, I was able to show (with diffs) that you were, in fact, correct. Apparently, this was "unconstructive"... hypocritical and hysterical, perhaps... :) MikeWazowski ( talk) 20:54, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Floq, I am going to follow your lead and unwatch the page too. Despite all of the issues I had with the guy, I had hoped that this time he would learn something. I still do, but I'm not hopeful. Pointed edit summaries like these [3] moments after he claimed to "have seen the light" are why I have my doubts... but one thing is certain -- reading them in my watch list isn't going to do me any good. Erikeltic ( Talk) 21:31, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
I have no clue how to use the wiki break enforcer i cannot be around here anymore I'm just about wanting to snap at Murry. over the last year I've been attacked so often and nothing was ever done, That SPI has a been active virtually all day without a clerk or admin looking at it which shows how serious things are taken. I cant stand it any more I'm past breaking point. Murry just dosent get it. If you can set up the wikibreak enforcer then fine. I cant be around here anymore id go so far as to say i don't see the point of this project any more i feel like the whole time I've edited has been worthless . I enjoy being here but cant stand the abuse anymore. Admins need to listen more to users and understand that this wasn't an isolated incident it has been going on for a long time he broke his block condition and personal attacked again its just ridiculous. Edinburgh Wanderer 02:51, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Floquenbeam. I noticed that you enacted the speedy delete request I put on the Roddie Clark article. There's still an open discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roddie Clark; I'm unable to close it as a non-admin closure like I normally would as I've expressed an opinion in the debate. Was wondering if you'd do the honours? (What a nuisance that editor is). Cheers, Dylanfromthenorth ( talk) 00:38, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Just a note to say that I'm glad you did not put a protection lockdown on his talk page. I've had near-zero interaction with any involved party, but I actually had legit wikibusiness on his talk page, and such a protection would have prevented me from communicating with him. I'm not sure anyone but the involved parties ever care all that much when people talk smack on their own user talk pages, so protecting it wouldn't really solve anything. Just being bored and curious I read Djathinkimacowboy's "epiphany" message and the warnings leading up to it, and maybe he'll actually get the point and be more productive and collegial. I'm sure you had entirely legit reasons for blocking him. Anyway, the point is: please don't protect user talk pages, or it's hard to talk to users. ;-) — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 05:16, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Re [4]: I live in California, so the Pacific comes to mind by default. :) — howcheng { chat} 20:46, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I participated in the discussion on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Soap_Operas#Episode_counts_and_updating_times Ït seems a consensus has been reached. What do you think? Can I begin updating episode counts, if no one has done it first? Wingard ( talk) 08:42, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
In a few hours a day has passed, so I wonder if it's ok if I update tonight if someone didn't beat me to the punch? And by tonight I mean, we in Sweden are 6 hrs ahead of the EST times. Please reply ASAP. Wingard ( talk) 15:08, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
I promise. So glad my promises finally counts for something. Thank you for your reply. Wingard ( talk) 17:07, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
I did wait, and it has begun, right? Wingard ( talk) 18:08, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
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For commendable restraint and patience, and hope for a seemingly hopeless editor. -- Djathink imacowboy 03:19, 2 February 2012 (UTC) |
I love your idea. Cheers Manning ( talk) 03:57, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm almost certain I ran across this very same quote two weeks ago. I'll try and find it later tonight if you haven't already found it yourself. Viriditas ( talk) 23:27, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Did you found the quote? What was the name of the prayerbook actually? I got curious, like others ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.76.164.174 ( talk) 14:21, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
It looks like User:Wingard and User:Musicfreak7676 are in a race to see who can update soap opera episode counts first. Both have complained about the other updating the count 1 minute before actual air date. Neither user has exactly bathed themselves in glory over this, and I'm not sure what, if anything, needs to be done right now. However, I'm keeping an eye on the situation and would appreciate it if you would too. AniMate 20:29, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm not trying to fight either, so as MF put it, there's no need to watch out. Not any of us are trying to fight. I'm telling you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wingard ( talk • contribs)
Me neither, not anymore. All is well. Wingard ( talk) 21:40, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
My mistake. Sorry. But the presen-t day episode thing only need to be done ione time right? And it was not intentional. Wingard ( talk) 18:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
I just thiught he reverted my update, but then when he pointed it out I saw he wasn't. It will never happen again. But can you please tell me if the start date he is talking about needs to be updated regularly or just one time? Wingard ( talk) 19:16, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Discussion moved to User talk:Wingard. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 19:36, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. I had hoped that Fastily would notice and jump to action. Drmies ( talk) 17:45, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for doing that with the Vivid Racing article. I appreciate the support. Betty Merm ( talk) 18:14, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Dear Floquenbeam,
My name is Jonathan Obar
user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community
HERE, were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.
So a few things about the interviews:
Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name
HERE instead.
If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.
Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Obar -- Jaobar ( talk) 19:21, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Formatted for you :-) Tweak as necessary. Regards, Steven Zhang Join the DR army! 02:03, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi there. I see you speedied my AdminWatch page under G4. Could I ask you to reconsider? The original close was "Delete - with no prejudice against recreation in different form." I assert that the new page was in a different form and there is not enough similarity between the original and the new page to be eligible for G4. Also, part of the original close was this:
Also, there has been a major change to the page during this MFD ([1]) which removed the usernames of the admins in question and changed the scope of the page drastically, rendering most !votes before this change less convincing, if not moot. (link)
This, I believe, invalidates your closing comment that "The last version of the previous page also did not have the admins' names in it, and it was still deleted" as a rationale. The only admin to assert that the page was not different to the old version is Elen, whose has WP:COI as it was her original G4 that was overturned at DRV. Toddst1 also has WP:COI issues as nominator, and his nomination was misleading - he misquoted the result of the first MfD, and mentioned the two speedies but neglected to say that they had been overturned. -- Surturz ( talk) 02:15, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
I would also suggest Surturz actually read WP:COI, rather than just wikilink to it. I think he'll find it has nothing to say on the subject. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 00:51, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
Anyway, though I disagree with them, SoWhy has endorsed Floquenbeam's G4, so I'll drop the matter. -- Surturz ( talk) 08:39, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
You were the one to block him, so I'm writing to you. He's got a page I need: User:TCO/Fluorine/ref checking 2012. We used (and I keep using) it as a page for the ref checking drive for Fluorine. Could you move it somewhere so I could edit it?-- R8R Gtrs ( talk) 13:46, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
While you were right with that whole shindig, you weren't exactly the most civil with the way you handled it. Barts1a was only trying to help. I've cautioned him against doing it again. N419 BH 09:19, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi. :) Pedro : Chat 22:15, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
I thought since you offered, I would first ask you about my article changes. By the way, could I have written this message back up under the old one? I did look at the inclusion guidelines and at a couple of the Category:Automotive motorsports and performance companies, as you suggested. Here are my questions: 1. In the first paragraph of my article in red is "citation needed", I think it says. Is a citation here a reference or what do I need there? 2. The History section seems just informational to me. Are there any deletions necessary there to you? 3. The Shop seems informational as to what their company offers mehanically for upgrading cars or do you think otherwise? 4. Other Business might need the section taken out "AP has established.....AP brand is recognized globally" and would this then make it less spammy? 5. The same as #4 for the last sentence starting "In combination...." 6. Is the Advertising and Publicity section something that is not acceptable? I thought the references to the magazines, car rally, etc. made it notable. In reading other articles about businesses and their products, I'm having a hard time seeing how much of my article is too much advertising. Betty Merm ( talk) 22:20, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
nflfacts2k2 ( talk · contribs)
This user has reinserted unsourced original research with POV throughout without an edit request on the talk page in violation of COI and the terms of your unblock. The text is exactly the same as the text I removed here. I am requesting you re-block the account. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:40, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind generosity and support in that ANI discussion I was involved with Floquenbeam. Thanks a lot for supporting me. Abhijay ( ☎ Talk) ( ✍ Stalk me) 05:02, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
-- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 10:34, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for taking care of those IP vandals tonight. -- Sailing to Byzantium ( msg), 01:32, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for finalizing that incident report. User:DL took all the wrong steps, but I am in compliance with what I've been told to do. Noticed any other disruptive posts at that page. For example threats posted to disrupt the page. Noticed them?. ANI report inconclusive. Policy page and talk page remain disrupted. Get rid of *me* and it will all be fine and dandy there? Don't think so. NewbyG ( talk) 01:47, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello! When correcting the italics, you missed the closing parenthesis (which I've added). I'm just noting this for future reference, as it occurs from time to time. Thanks! — David Levy 23:31, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
I have read few things more apt than this. I wish I could write things as brilliant. Cheers, 28bytes ( talk) 23:00, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Somewhere it's written in either the mentoring page or an essay on it that mentorship only works if the mentoree wants it to. I stand by what I have said and if someone doesn't like it that is their problem. He is now on his own. N419 BH 06:19, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
There is more development; I hope you can clarify the situation. ~*~ Ankit Bhatt~*~ 16:39, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Let me get this straight (so that I can cite this example later): an editor tells another editor to "Fuck off", and then "idiot", and he is let off with a warning. The other editor demands clarification , and that is liable for banning. Yes, I will make a proper note of this point, and also of the excuse used "I said it at the heat of the moment". That way I can tell everyone how to escape from being persecuted on ANI. Oh, not to mention, I should start making friends with admins so that they will be there to help me out if I get into a problem. Good day, and thanks for teaching me something new. ~*~ Ankit Bhatt~*~ 09:46, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
The moon is currently waxing gibbous [1] and the price of Mansuli Rice in Kalihot, Napel is 60/kg [2]. Unfortunately I have no idea what currency units the 60 is in. Nobody Ent 16:40, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
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For your attempts at resolving a contentious issue between two editors that all began on the talk page for John Carter. Well, regards. Jedi94 ( talk) 21:31, 4 March 2012 (UTC) |
Hi, I noticed you have blocked User:Evilzionistantichrist. Just as a heads up, the edits and username are the MO of the serially banned/sock-puppeteer User:Aryan2012 (See Special:Contributions/Aryan2012). He has been quiet on the articles edited today for a year or so.However, it seems that now his favourite article, Omar Bakri Muhammad, has been protected he may be turning his attention back to some of the other articles he haunts. Pit-yacker ( talk) 20:17, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
HI. I see you've met this feller. I just did, too, about two hours ago on J. Edgar Hoover, where he's removed page needed tags four times and gotten all high-horse about pages not being needed on citations. Rather than take it to WP:AN3, I'll point you at it:
The cites in question refer to whole books and given all the controversy concerning Hoover, pages would be appropriate to justify the claims made; I've no real interest in the Hoover article, as I explained on the article's talk; I just happened to edit it the other day because it was mentioned on Template talk:Cleanup where there's a noisy discussion. Speaking of tags, there's an unhelpful one on your user page… Alarbus ( talk) 11:12, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Though I can appreciate how fun this is for you two, and it may even be intended as a test for me, I call your attention to this
[5] so you may see these things resolve themselves with a ringing beauty. So please, if I may humbly ask, can the slightly drafty little back-nipping I'm feeling from here please cease?
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Djathink
imacowboy
08:54, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
It is not anyone's place to address any 'hurt feelings' I may or may not have. I'm not here to pester you in any way, and maybe I just got too wordy about it. I apologise. Unless you decide otherwise, let's drop it. It's not my intention to keep coming here, unless of course I have a matter of business.— Djathink imacowboy 09:14, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
The ideal would be to just dial back the sensitivity to reacting to others' comments a bit, and simultaneously dial up the sensitivity to seeing others' point of view a little, to get closer to a reasonable balance. my 2 cents, your mileage may very, caveat emptor, etc etc. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 15:12, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm so sorry I couldn't respond sooner, I had an unexpected delay shortly after I made my request to User:Bishonen, I had to leave the house for a few hours and I just got home, I Thank you for taking the time to block my old account at my request, I apologize that I was not here to contact you sooner, if only there was a way to let people know when I'm logged in or not so I dont seem rude, Just know your help is appreciated. – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 22:45, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Your decision to close this out with a conventional block (not an AE block) looks fine to me. Conventional blocks ought to be considered more often at AE. Do you mind if I change your closure box at AE to look more like the usual AE style? EdJohnston ( talk) 03:22, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
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(>**)> Mucho hugzies for your input on that IP's talk page. I hope that poor guy comes back and at least sees it. Pesky ( talk) 21:49, 7 March 2012 (UTC) |
I was going to do something special for edit #10,000, but I wasn't paying attention and wasted it on the middle of a mass rollback of a vandal. </mope> -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 04:12, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks. I assumed my comment might start a fight and I'm sorry for assuming the worst. v/r - T P 17:02, 8 March 2012 (UTC) |
Hi, I see that you indeffed Penguinluver1431. Quite a relief!
You will likely want to extend the block to User:Penguinluver9581, per Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Penguinluver1431. Thank you for your attention. Binksternet ( talk) 21:08, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Floquenbeam! I'd like to say a brief word about what you wrote, at Arbitration Enforcement, "I have, with some trepidation (all the rules about AE scare me, I'm sure I'm going to do something wrong and be desysopped and then shot and then desysopped again) blocked Rejedef indefinitely. This is explicitly not an AE action ...". I thought you'd like to know that last year the community revoked the second "desysoping" in the protocol you describe. Some regular AE participants were of the opinion that it should be replaced with making the erring admin listen to this in the afterlife, instead, but wiser heads prevailed, and the overwhelming consensus was that that was just too cruel by far.
Seriously, though, I just wanted to express my appreciation for your participation at AE, and would like to encourage you, and other admins, too, to do so more regularly, if you can possibly find the time. I've followed reports on that board for a year or two, now, off and on, and certainly feel that broader participation from our admin corps would be all to the good. I say so because there have been intervals where the great majority of "rulings" there have come from no more than two or three people; there have even been stretches of multiple weeks where a single admin ( no longer very active on the board ) seemed to be turning in 80 - 90% of the decisions there. Of course, such thin participation on an important board like AE is far from ideal.
I understand from the notice at the top of this page that you may be curtailing the time you spend on Wikipedia, but I nevertheless wanted to say "thank you" for finding the time to look in at that board, and encourage you to do so in the future. Best, – OhioStandard ( talk) 11:41, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Jeez. 28bytes ( talk) 01:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
<--What is the matter with Night Ranger? And if he's asking for a block, why isn't it granted? Drmies ( talk) 02:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
I thought rationing was more prevalent in the US. I remember my great grandmother telling stories about having to split up semicolons and selling the periods for scrap. 28bytes ( talk) 20:01, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
As you note, semicolons were also commonly broken apart, with the resulting periods being sold for scrap, and the resulting commas adding to the general oversupply. In the early years of the war, Liberty ships full of surplus commas were sent to Great Britain, but so many were sunk by German U-boats that there was very little positive effect, and even when the ships got through, it was uneconomical, and the Brits didn't really know what to make of the funny-looking American commas anyway. After large storms, you can sometimes still see crates of commas wash up on the shores of Ireland, having spent over sixty years on the bottom of the North Atlantic. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 20:29, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
I saw you turned down the unblock request on this editor, I have came across this editor Mikelimerick , an editor from Limerick uses the same language and seems to not like public transport. Edits styles are similar including his how does it work, an you an employee of wiki? and on Stanbidder1 murry1975 why are you deleting my edits? are you employee of wikipedia?. What is the best thing to do next, a SPI? Or try to reason with him again? Murry1975 ( talk) 13:27, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
I see you blocked fully, I was trying to reason with him, trying to get him to read the guidelines and understand but he really did seem to believe Wiki was the place to vent his voice. Thanks for your help, I have a feeling its not the last sock from him. Murry1975 ( talk) 18:05, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
I noticed you found yourself in the middle of NCSIfan2's nonsense last night. Please see the message I just left for MuZemike: [6]; I have come to suspect NCSIfan2 is a sockpuppet, as detailed in the message. I've asked MuZemike to weigh in before I take this to the appropriate SPI, and given your recent interaction, thought I should make you aware of what I'd found as well. -- Drmargi ( talk) 18:39, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
I've replied with two things to your point of view on the ANI noticeboard. Thank you for being with me on the matter and enjoy your day. Abhijay What did I do this time? 13:15, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi, i don't know what happened to Dave, but about these weeks he was really not that friendly. I think it might interest his activity about this article: [7] that actually he put in the deletion discussion. As i did of my best to improve the stuff, about Hunter's service with Swiss Air Force and i am available to improve it further (and accept other's help if/when offered), but i did not expect that Dave put it in the deletion discussion page as well.
The tag that questioned the article's existence was put on 11th and should have last until 18th march, so i had 7 days to improve it, as i did. Someone lifted the article from the threat to be deleted (because he rated good enough the article to be retained in Wikipedia..), but Dave, not happy enough, opened quickly the deletion discussion page about it. This is the crono: [8] I wouldn't mess with it as i am the only contributor of that article, so i would be really POV about it, even offering objective things. But the Dave's attitude really sickened me, before reverting anything i wrote in Hawker Hunter article, and later, trying to destroy entirely the spin-off article, in spite it grew a lot from the pruned section (see Hawker Hunter talk discussion). I think that Dave was totally aggressive and even insulting (your ignorance/incompetence [9]) towards me, have abused of some wikipedia's rules and kidded me when i tried to put it in a objective manner. I did not return back in Wikipedia to be handled like a moron, but it is happened and Dave, IMO- seems more focused to attack me rather than do the best for Wikipedia. He may be a good boy, but if i acted like him, i would be kicked out as 'vandal' or 'troll'. Just my 2 cents. Stefanomencarelli ( talk) 15:09, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you for momentarily solving The Dumbest Feud In The World(TM). Drmies ( talk) 16:11, 17 March 2012 (UTC) |
This guy should have been indef blocked. I think you just used the same duration as the IPs by mistake. Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 18:29, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
I had a very nice, polite email from FLM. He's taking a bit of time to learn his way around the WikiRules on notability, WP:V, WP:RS, etc., and is intending to drop some apologies around to the people he got into spats with and insulted, which sounds promising.
I think he'll probably be OK, he knows that any step out of line is likely to result in an indef block, so hopefully he'll settle in now and become a useful, expert and productive editor. His passion reminds me a bit of me when I came back to the 'pedia after a very long break, having only produced one article before, though he's a tad (!) more trigger-happy than I was! Montanabw was incredibly patient with me (as were several others from WP:EQUINE), and got me onto the right track, when they could very easily have lost patience with me instead.
Fingers crossed that all will go a lot more smoothly now. Pesky ( talk) 08:09, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Just saw your edit summary at WP:ANI. I've actually already indef blocked DaftEco2 as a sock, with talk page access disabled. But you're welcome to overturn or modify any part of that if you think it would be worthwhile. -- Boing! said Zebedee ( talk) 14:39, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
I confirm that I have requested an account on the UTRS tool. Floquenbeam ( talk)
I am sorry for have been such a dick to you recently, and I'm sorry for all that I've done. Take care. P.S. I found Abenyosef through Special:Requests for Unblock, just where I found User talk:Stoljaroff1987. Abhijay What did I do this time? 07:11, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello Flo, I recalled your username but not the unpleasant circumstances until you referred me to the ersatz Talk page for 'Quintby' with lower case B. To the best of my knowledge I had no role in creating this Talk page, and to the limited extent that I have the knowledge to check the existence or non-existence of a second quintby, however capped or non-capped, I came up emptyhanded. Do take a look as well at the user page for this lower-case-b Quintby and you will see that it is completely empty as is the edit history for same.
Not only was I not acting in bad faith here, it would seem to me that someone else acted in bad faith by somehow managing to create a 'Quintby' Talk page, from the looks of things, wholly out of thin air. Presumably, the edits made to the lower-case-b quintby Talk page by me are genuine. i know that there was someone in the past who excoriated me for saying that someone was impersonating me and I now suspect that I was becoming confused because other editors were jumping back and forth between the quintby Talk page and the QuintBy Talk page.
As I've just today added, I have very serious brain damage, serious enough that I have been told that I should not even be minimally conscious much less capable of writing fairly cohesively. But the linear nature of writing makes it far easier to carry out than dealing with jumping back and forth between pages - it all ends up in a jumble which I often simply cannot untangle.
As I already cannot recall what was on the lower-case-b Talk page such that I can address it further I'll simply end by saying that you are more than welcome to e-mail me, although I'm uncertain by what means. Confusedly yours, QuintBy ( talk) 21:34, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
You're a good egg, and all that, and we don't have much "history" so (hopefully) I won't end up being accused of looking for some pro-Pesky support or anything. :D (and I trust your judgment and impartiality).
There's been a bit of trouble brewing between a long-term experienced editor who takes a lot of responsibility for stewardship of WP:EQUINE GAs, FAs, FAC's, etc., and another editor. The Eq. specialist asked me for some input, and was followed over to my talk by the other editor (see the collapsed content on my talk page). I've had to ask the other editor to stay off my talk now, and I feel it's best that they and I try to avoid interacting as it's obviously not going to go well. (You probably know enough about me to realise that having to do that is as rare as a very rare thing, etc.)
I spent several hours going through loads of the history to try and work out the ins and outs of the matter, and discovered that editor 2 (S.) has a talent for misrepresentation of situations, so that's one to beware of. There was definitely some WikiHounding / WikiStalking going on demonstrated by the fact that S. (with whom I have never interacted before) came straight over to my talk intent on prolonging arguments (some of them months old) from elsewhere, and I strongly suspect that that isn't the only time that editor M. has been followed around to prolong arguments.
My own impression, from looking at the long and involved background, is that S. is a bit OTT confrontational, a bit WP:TE (though with good intentions, I'm absolutely sure), and tends to resort quickly to accusations of WP:Ownership etc. I know they mean well and seem to have the interests of the 'pedia at heart, and they've also provided some absolutely stunning Commons contributions and are clearly very expert within their own speciality.
Could you possibly wander over to their talk and have a quiet, gentle chat with them about toning it down a little bit, letting old arguments go, stalking, and generally being a bit nicer? I really don't want to see this situation escalating to the point where we'd have to be looking at RfC/U, or sudden appearances on the dramah board, etc.
All the best, and granny-hugz ;P Pesky ( talk) 19:34, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to reply here, and use vague wording, to minimize drama; I don't really want to get dragged into this by making direct accusations, and if things have died down there's no sense using actual usernames and notifying people and getting their back up. I also looked into this less deeply than I would if I was going to actually do anything about it. Feel free to point M to this if you think it worthwhile to do so.
Some people are more brusque than others. It's an almost unsolvable fact of life that such people can make other, gentler editors not enjoy working with them. Open, collaborative editing does mean you can't heap personal attacks on others, but it also means you need to have at least a minimally thick skin and accept criticism, even when it is sub-optimally given. (There may be some watching this page who think I should practice what I preach more in this regard)
I think one of the people you're asking about looks difficult to work with, and has personalized disputes that didn't need to be personalized. I don't think I've seen anything lately that could be "sanctioned" per se. I also think (and this is unfortunate) that an unsolicited comment from me would not have any desired effect. This seems a grey area that Wikipedia is particularly ill-suited to deal with.
I think the other person you're asking about is kind and generous, but probably takes brusque criticism too hard. If I were assigning relative blame, this editor would not be who I would focus on. However, since I suspect they are open to advice, I'll say that it's best not to try to pick unnecessary fights with people, even when you are technically right, and even when you think they're a jerk.
So, for example, when someone who annoys you has created a page at a title that is not quite correct, MOS-wise, but isn't really hurting anything, it really isn't a great idea to try to fix it, or file a move request. Wikipedia is far from perfect, so fixing a small imperfection you found a detractor make is going to end up doing more harm than good. It certainly sets the stage for them to do the same thing to you further down the road. Someone else will no doubt notice it eventually, well before Wikipedia is finalized, and it will ultimately be fixed without your direct action.
This isn't great advice for people who have a black and white view of right and wrong. But it is probably at least semi-decent advice for people who are less interested in "justice" than they are in enjoying editing.
FWIW. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 16:19, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
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This is to help the stuff which you've bitten off, and don't think you can chew, to go down more easily ;P Pesky ( talk) 15:42, 22 March 2012 (UTC) |
Hey Floquenbeam, how's things? Good I hope. Need some help with 74.60.24.250 who continues to readd a large swath of original research to the WRIR-LP page. I have posted to the anon's talk page with no response. We are both at 3RR (I have issued a warning to him) so I can't revert any further, so I thought an admin talking to him would help. Take Care.... Neutralhomer • Talk • 21:36, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
-- George Ho ( talk) 00:49, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Today should be a very good day for me. After a calvarious path, the Hunter in Swiss Air Force is finally saved. But.. it is happening something different now. Someone is never happy enough to play with rules. Next time i'll have the insane idea to write a new article in the aviation section, i'll surely think twice and more instead. Regardless of the 'legitimate sources' i think it is really borderline, if not worse, to question the basis of an article just saved today! And by who, then? A guy that cannot even understand that the sources are 'PD', and shouts about 'copyright issues'. Shall i presume 'good faith'? There is definively the need of some advisors, as i fear to be involved in a very murky dispute. I don't know how it would end, but if interested, the discussion continues here: [10] Stefanomencarelli ( talk) 21:18, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Hey Floquenbeam, the email address you entered for your UTRS account doesn't appear to be valid, we got a bounce notice from the toolserver when TParis approved your account just now. Could you send me an email so I can update your email address in the database? Thank you! Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 01:42, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello Floquenbeam, you've got mail. Strange Passerby ( talk • cont) 12:23, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
It was my edit, sorry - I am not sure why this thing happened - but I think that it is a bug - this image is on MediaWiki:Bad image list +(second bug - it was in nowiki). Bulwersator ( talk) 07:07, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Floquenbeam, I noticed your block here on one of the SPA. However the other one has not only kept this frivolous complaint up but has repeated it on numerous talk pages. I would suport the call for a CU to be done. -- Domer48 'fenian' 11:38, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
When an editor is blocked, should a regular editor leave a blocking template on a blocked users talk page or should an admin do so? Ab hijay ☎ 13:33, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Abhijay/Soviet King, I've just noticed your "Retired" banner. By all means take a break, but don't be too disheartened! Aspie/Autie people can end up making excellent Wikipedia editors, and I personally know several people on the same scale as you and I who are admins here, so it's certainly not much of an impediment to progress. Any time you feel you're not quite sure of an explanation, or just want to chat with me or others on the same scale, come over to my talk page. I have stalkers on there who are also Aspie/Autie, and who were incredibly helpful to me when I goofed up as a newbie, who would be delighted to help you out when things get tricky. Cheers, Pesky ( talk) 08:41, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you Pesky. @ Floquenbeam, if you are too steamed to talk to me, I guess that I will agree on a few things here. But before we go to that, please note that I'm sorry for having used my disability as an excuse to get away with what I wanted. Yes, it was over the line, and I owe you an apology for the disruption caused. Before I put this matter to a final end, please note that I left the message at Joniquq's page because I felt that he was being a target of a potential block. In this case, it wasn't and I'm sorry for that as well. I now understand that at WP:ANI, I should carefully assess a person's contributions before commenting on a proposed block. With you saying that I shouldn't post at WP:ANI just will not make me edit there. I want to contribute to WP:ANI because I assume good faith, and so are you. Conflict, sure isn't my thing as I added potential 'fuel' to the conversation there because I thought that ThisThat2011 was doing it on purpose, but after seeing his reply on the talk page, I understand that he too went over the line. Editors like them I agree could be a bit difficult to work with (given his apparent judgmental attitude), and I admit I was a bit angry upon reading his comments. You have to admit that ThisThat's jibe seemed rather hurtful, and as Aspie's we tend to proceed in such a way that we often don't realise what impact it would have on ThisThat if I reacted like that. Having said that, I agree conflict may not seem the strongest of my contributions to Wikipedia, and entirely this case was based upon human error and stupidity. I am more than happy to contribute less to conflict between editors, but I feel that it is generally hurtful for you having said that I caused trouble at WP:ANI. Please acknowlegde the fact that I didn't know that ThisThat meant really, and that I acted without having realized that. And note that I actually found out that he went over the line after saying that, and I too went over the line. It would be very rude of me not to accept your constructive criticism on my talk page. I appreciate your constructive criticism, and as and admin it is your duty to make sure stuff is clean and right in it's place. Saying that I use it (my disability) as an excuse will not help me improve on Wikipedia. After all, everyone is trying to the best to make this project like a great big resourceful book isn't it? Up today, I didn't know that rules existed where Administrators can block someone if they post a blocking template on someone's talk page, and I never knew that Templates are a pre-requisite if someone does something stupid on Wikipedia or if they are blocked. Conflict at WP:ANI may not be strong, but in the past I have reported several users for Edit warring. That's enough said of me, and have a nice day. Soviet King ( talk) 10:44, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Oooh, huge pro-tip! Stop thinking of it as a "disability"; it really isn't, it's just a "difference" in the way we process thoughts and perceptions. Pesky ( talk) 11:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! I think I was going through the right motions (e.g., alerting Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics) but obviously I should have done that well before I got to 5 (or however many) reverts. I'll definitely be more careful in the future. Best, Joel B. Lewis ( talk) 02:05, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello, You have allowed User talk:Soumitrahazra#Discussion is not optional him to edit one month ago. Now see, he is not listening to anybody in spite of many messages. And I patrolled his contribution page, he is not doing assessment properly and not writing any summary after notice. Thank You. -- ɑηsuмaη ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ 13:58, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
[15]. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 01:18, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
It's gone now. The idiot that defended the vandalism got a VERY STERN warning to boot. http://commons.wikimedia.org/?title=User_talk:Fry1989&diff=69091558&oldid=69087649 . Discussion was closed as "Deleted: Blatant Vandalism. Why are we even having this discusison?". Barts1a / Talk to me / Help me improve 08:49, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
As you were typing your final warning to Spyder Grove ( talk · contribs), I was blocking him for disruptive editing. I'll defer to your judgement and let you decide if he should be unblocked or not. Regards. Salvio Let's talk about it! 13:50, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
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Just because you're a darling ;P Pesky ( talk) 18:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC) |
Hello, I've attempted to enter new information under the seventh heading of Wikipedia's "Trisection" webpage entitled, "By infinite repetition of bisection". Such information references a relevant 1995 United States copyright.
So, in conclusion, The other edit warring partner whom I previously identified is named -- User:D.Lazard and JUST DELETED MY ATTEMPTED ADDITION. This represents his third deletion of my work. As opposed to allowing such user to make decision as to what copyrighted information is bonafide, I would appreciate if you NOW INTERVENE in this matter. If you check my talk page for March 29, my appeal to MuZimike, item (3) requested his intervention so this type of problem would not continue after my block duration had ended. And this is exactly what re-occurred.
WIKI-1-PIDEA ( talk) 19:28, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Please read these; they will help prevent you from being blocked from editing here.
Thank you. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 21:03, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
RESPONSE TO: "You can't copyright an idea" as listed above, .....
WIKI-1-PIDEA ( talk) 21:31, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
RESPONSE TO: "Please don't source anything else to www.truescans.com. It is not a reliable source" as listed above, .....
WIKI-1-PIDEA ( talk) 21:24, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
RESPONSE TO: "The idea that the current wording of that section of angle trisection is a copyright violation, and that your version somehow fixed it, is bizarre. You do not have a solid rationale for your version".as listed above, .....
WIKI-1-PIDEA ( talk) 21:24, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
After some discussions with other contributors, i have temporarly quit about this stuff, as it became too warm even for me. But, even if i quitted , someone didn't stopped to insult me. I think that Dave's gratuitus attack was really gratuitus and offensive, as i could be many things, but i am not surely a troll. Regards. Stefanomencarelli ( talk) 12:59, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
"In general, it is perfectly acceptable to notify other editors of ongoing discussions, provided that it is done with the intent to improve the quality of the discussion by broadening participation to more fully achieve consensus."
Therefore I'm notifying you of ongoing discussions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 April 1#Category:Wikipedians who wish Bish and Giano would come back, as I believe that you may be able to improve the quality of discussion on a topic in which you are interested. The oxygen of publicity! -- RexxS ( talk) 19:46, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I am so so sorry. I mistakenly blocked you while I was going to block an attack account on you (which should be blocked soon). I was looking at the block screen for the person and I took out the end part of the username and I must have clicked enter. Gah. -- Bsa dow ski1 20:59, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for declining my speedy deletions and giving the advice you gave to the editors. What you said is true, I am a little overaggressive when it comes with even possible promotion in userspace. I'll try to calm myself. :P Regards, Whenaxis ( contribs) DR goes to Wikimania! 13:46, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Y'know that hinty redlink you left on my talk?
WP:ASPIE and WP:AUTIE are now in existence (same page but those are the shortcuts) A work in progress, obviously ;P Pesky ( talk) 18:49, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Floquenbeam, you were right and I was wrong, and I should have known better. First of all I would like to apologize for what happened at WP:ANI. Yes, I went tad over the line, and I'm sorry for that, but please note that the matter wasn't based upon human stupidity, but It was just a misinterpretation of the issue and I will like to apologize; I will admit to you at that stage I was a bit upset upon viewing ThisThat2011's jibe there, and I didn't know that he didn't mean to burst out like that. I agree that an editor such as him can be difficult to work with at times, given his apparent short-tempered attitude bursting out with comments he didn't mean to say and starting a drama like that. And I apologise for the quote send to another editor's page; I will admit I misunderstood what one editor was actually meaning by that. If you simply had a bad day because of this, I'm sorry for that. Lastly, I've noted that you too tend to lose your temper a little bit too much Floquenbeam. I agree that editors on Wikipedia tend to have their frustrating days and they tend to give you a hard time on your job as an admin, but please don't let that bother you too much. Soviet King ( talk) 04:40, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Dear Floquenbeam,
I have emailed info-en-o@wikimedia.org already but not in time to stop my article "Leyla Ergun" from being deleted. Can I put it back on please? if I remove the fact that I have written a book? as everything else is the truth and by I would say December 2012 everyone will have proof that what I say is the truth, or would I have to wait until December? It would help billions of people if my new article would be accepted please? please read my blog? The Importance Of Love By Leyla Ergun
Best wishes
Leyla Ergun — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leyla Ergun ( talk • contribs) 17:02, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't know why, but your edit summary here gave me a good laugh. Funny thing is I only saw it after I accidentally tripped the rollback on you. Calabe 1992 15:19, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Since you blocked the new trolling account, User:SirKills, I thought I'd bring this to your attention. User returned to edit this comment in via IP: [22], which could be construed as a legal threat. Equazcion (talk) 00:28, 14 Apr 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for taking care of the "Nigger" talk page vandal. Fasttimes68 ( talk) 02:04, 14 April 2012 (UTC) |
Don't worry, you didn't wreck my day :) I tried to think of a proper/aristocratic way of saying underwear--I was unaware of that double meaning! Mark Arsten ( talk) 15:47, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I can't find the Barnstar of Plain-Speaking in the Wikilove toolkit, but if I did I'd have to put one here for telling the (Redacted)s at AN/I to knock off the (Redacted) (Redacted). Go (Redacted) yourself! 28bytes ( talk) 19:57, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
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Your lovely quiet way of asking the obvious question makes you just as cute and cuddly as this kitten! Have a big snuggly Granny-hug ;P Pesky ( talk) 11:02, 17 April 2012 (UTC) |
[23] Will do, also [24] this was Nangparbat. Darkness Shines ( talk) 14:25, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
What should I do about this guy? I don't want to block him or haul him to AN/I, but he's been making questionable edits (e.g. "fixing" the correct publisher of a website to match the wrong title, changing "plan to produce" to "have produced" when the reference says no such thing), and he's completely unresponsive to queries about what he's doing. Thoughts? 28bytes ( talk) 18:43, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
"Wave"ing back at you. Calabe 1992 00:03, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
You are so right. I was just thinking the exact same thing. That I just couldn't beat your edit summary on Black hair and maybe I should hold back. My better sense failed me though. Apologies. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγος πράξις 01:22, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
You may care to reconsider your position. [25] Malleus Fatuorum 03:25, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Hey Floquenbeam, stop it already. I appreciate it, though. Listen, as weak as it sounds, I don't have much of a reason to oppose a ban for badmachine. They have made positive edits, and they are also a timesink, though not to a great extent for me anyways. I'll never understand that GNAA stuff, ever--but I cannot support blocking just because of that, and IMO badmachine isn't nothing but a troll. Also, the only thing I've seen that could be called trolling has to do with their own user page--but I have not followed their edits very closely, so it's very likely that I would have missed something.
The section I pointed at, at ANI--I broke a lance for someone and unblocked them, and within a week they first proved that they were really a jerk and then that they deserved an indef block, which I gladly gave them. In other words, I'm wrong about these things all the time, and that your argument for blocking is objectively stronger than my flimsy argument for not blocking is more than likely. It's just that I don't like blocking in cases where you actually detect a human behind the name, not just an asshole with nothing better to do. OK, enough out of me. Thanks. Drmies ( talk) 03:42, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Back in college, I used to work part-time for a Muslim professor. At one point he wrote a letter to the editor titled "Racism against Muslims", which I thought was odd, since Islam was a religion and not a race. I asked him, wouldn't it be more precise to call it "Bigotry against Muslims"? But he assured me that racism doesn't have to have a race as its target; one could legitimately be "racist" against religions, nationalities, etc. I wasn't quite convinced, but OK. Fast forward to this year, where I've seen more than once the claim that Wikipedia engages in "racism against IPs". Meaning, I guess, that unregistered or logged-out editors as a class are a "race". I'm 85% sure the "racism against IPs" meme is pure trolling rather than ignorance of what racism is, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see the claim appear that objecting to the racist trolling of the GNAA means that one is "racist against the GNAA". So stay tuned for that. I suppose I'm in a vanishing minority (see what I did there?) of people who actually think that using racist terminology for teh lulz is not something that should be tolerated. 28bytes ( talk) 16:18, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
I note that you blocked his neighbour's IP. Is it okay if I remove his comment from my talk page? Since it already showed he is a friend of the other user? Gorgak25 ( talk) 00:53, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Lunchtime. This in appreciation of your impeccable use of negatives. Now get the fuck away from Wikipedia and try to finish your work--and I'll try to do the same. Drmies ( talk) 18:13, 3 May 2012 (UTC) |
I am not unappreciative of this note, assuming it was not mistakenly misapplied to the wrong page (wait, I think I pushed my luck too far). -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 18:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
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Take this. Floquenbeam. From User:Abhijay, a.k.a Khvalamde. Khvalamde : Holla at me 11:29, 4 May 2012 (UTC) |
Upon reading this quotebox, Pod thoughtfully hands Mrs Floquenbeam a fishapod plushy from his ample store, all sewn and stuffed by the great Yomangani. (YoMama is truly a man of many talents.) Now Mrs can play, too! bishapod talk to your inner fish 21:56, 4 May 2012 (UTC).
So. I'm keeping the plushy for myself. Or perhaps I'll save it and give it to my daughter when she's older; she's a nerd in training, so I'm sure she'll eventually edit here too, and appreciate hand-made electronic plushies (not the mass-produced crap they sell as webkinz). -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 20:44, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi there. I have chosen you as one of the editors who may request my resignation as part of my my recall procedure. Could you have a look, and confirm whether you're happy being on the list? Thanks. ItsZippy ( talk • contributions) 17:09, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
No need to apologize, I understand, thanks for keeping an eye on the situation. I hope he/she calms down and returns as a productive editor. Arcandam ( talk) 03:21, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Good day, thank you for blocking the IP vandal, 89.205.24.130. Just FYI, he appears to have created a permanent account and is continuing to edit war: User:Agamemnon s. Regards, DP76764 ( Talk) 16:53, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
As an active donor and supporter to Wikipedia i feel angry for being punished without breaking a single rule on Wikipedia. People who are protecting violated the Terms of Use. I will raise this dispute to higher levels of Wikipedia even demand my donations back because i was misleaded by the message of Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agamemnon s ( talk • contribs) 16:55, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
1. It's not my website. 2. It's not spamming. 3. I didn't broke any rule. 4. I will return my donated money, but it will bad record for the foundation, and someone will ask why i want to get my money back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agamemnon s ( talk • contribs) 17:11, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
We will see who will lol at the end. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agamemnon s ( talk • contribs) 17:26, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Your unblocking of my account is greatly appreciated. In retrospect, I definitely should have just reported this to admin earlier and stopped with the reverts; won't happen again (regardless of whether it technically was allowed under the rules.) But, your stepping is is much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoelWhy ( talk • contribs)
I may have misinterpreted, but I don't think so. It looked like there was a shot (a small one and I've thick skin) at me in there. I just wanted to note that I've tried to clarify my thoughts there. I hope you can see the point I was at least trying to make. If not, well, such is life.-- Cube lurker ( talk) 21:03, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you for your assistance with my on-again-off-again ban (not to mention for pointing me towards an enlightening article about the use of skeleton warriors during the Peloponnesian War!) JoelWhy ( talk) 21:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC) |
Gee, thanks Joel. Glad I could help. I wonder if I hang out at CAT:UNBLOCK all day, if I could just rake these things in... -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 22:04, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
I appreciate your taking care of a couple of hundred deletions WRT Plum90's mass tagging. I was gonna attack the task after my HG session and, lo and behold, no work for me to do :)
Anyway, I wanted you to know that you had back-up...see ya 'round. Tide rolls 02:18, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
This edit: ( [27]) was a complete outburst and I just find this rude and just another outburst of vexation. While I can sympathize that I did have a bad time at WP:ANI noticeboards, and you telling me that I shouldn't get involved in other conflicts as it wasn't my thing, this was completely uncalled for. I don't take bribes, nor do I take this bribing offers if I brang a discussion to WP:AN. There was nothing wrong bringing a ban discussion about a user, and I do not see why you are so irked off with it, and calling it "ridiculousness". If you do think of it as "ridiculousness", I am more than happy to welcome any constructive criticism/feedback. Perhaps you are just having a bit of a bad day - It certainly does flow in once in a while. This is the third time I am seeing these outbursts from you, and still I am assuming good faith, so please don't push my goodwill. Khvalamde : Argue, Scream, Chat, Yell or Shout 04:18, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
-- Floquenbeam ( talk) 15:04, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
This is related to the above section.-- Jasper Deng (talk) 04:39, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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Hey Floq,
I really don't know what to make of this and would like your opinion on it, as I figure you're just as well-versed with SK as I am. Please see the message I received here from an anon IP. — Strange Passerby ( talk • cont) 13:27, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi. It's one you blocked. He says he's had time to think about it and would like to be unblocked (he requested you blocked him). You know him better than me.. Secretlondon ( talk) 20:00, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
I commented on your post at WT:AC, and I had some ideas that I'd like to get your thoughts on.. (if you have free time). [28], probably used WAYYYYY too many words to try to propse it, but this is jsut an off-the cuff first draft. SirFozzie ( talk) 21:52, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
I notice that you unblocked the above, after he promised that "trolling and personal attacks are not going to resume", however it looks like his fist two edits here and here were just that, clearly attacking my motives. Mt king (edits) 20:39, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
I see you've decided to step down — and I assume you're taking a step back from everything in general, too. Best wishes in whatever you decide to do. — Strange Passerby ( talk • cont) 13:24, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
That's really, really, nice of you all, but some of you make it sound like I'm dying, or moving to Canada, or Meatball:GoodByeing, or something. I just gave up the bit, I haven't Quit with a capital Q. I suppose I'll save all these up and copy/paste them when/if I do leave, so I don't just hear crickets? -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 15:04, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Hey Floq, I was also a bit dismayed with your giving up the bit again, but that's not why I'm here. Regarding that SPI case, I've got no problem at all with you reverting my close. You might want to drop a line to the CU, though, since they're not particularly active at SPI and might not notice your request otherwise. Cheers, and enjoy your break ;) — DoRD ( talk) 01:13, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for your words of wisdom on that SPI. May not make any practical difference, but getting a probably-incorrect badge of shame corrected was nonetheless the right thing to do. 28bytes ( talk) 15:47, 27 May 2012 (UTC) |
Thanks very much, 28b. "Wisdom" is my middle name (although sometimes I lie and say it's "Integrity". -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 14:14, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
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"I know the cat's dead, but I still have to wonder if the expression on its face is somehow related to the installation of the "rudder assembly" I was swigging some pop thru a straw when I read that quote. Some pop did escape and land on my shirt and laptop. First time I've ever done that before. Thank you Bgwhite ( talk) 21:31, 4 June 2012 (UTC) |
Please see this AE which as The Blade of the Northern Lights states: "Comments from other admins would be really nice too." Ankh. Morpork 10:55, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi Floquenbeam. I don't know if you remember, but back in March I took User:Jayblackcar's userpage to mfd for being about a non-existent album and an artist whose claims to fame appear to be false. I don't recall now how it ended up at ANI (whether I took it there, or someone complained that I was biting him). Regardless, his userpage was deleted and I don't think he edited ever since. I just noticed User:Jesseblackcar, who started editing in may, and whose userpage is the exact same information as Jayblackcar's deleted page as far as I can tell.
I'm unclear if you are around, but figured it was worth a try to run it past you what you think the next step should be. I haven't looked into the details yet to see if he has modified the spurious claims. I don't want to slap a new editor, but this seems to be more a case of deception than honest newbie errors.
Any thoughts? Thanks. Syrthiss ( talk) 14:47, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
I believe I was in the "don't bite the newbies" camp last time, and disagreed with the result of the MFD. But, that can't last forever, especially when the user makes zero effort to attempt to communicate, nor any attempt to, you know, help make an encyclopedia. I don't have the magic x-ray glasses anymore to see deleted contribs, but the new user page looks the same as I remember the old one looking. If you look at Links to the image, it appears there are several other accounts being used too. Since, in spite of my note on their talk page last time, they did not attempt to communicate with anyone, I think we're into "not your personal webhost" and CSD#G4 territory now, and I have no real concern about biting a newbie anymore. If I were an admin, I'd be tempted to (a) leave a message on their most active account's talk page reminding them of the MFD; (b) delete all the user pages, (c) ask them which account they'd like to keep, and block the others, salting their user pages, and (d) explain that continuing to recreate the page again will probably result in blocking the remaining account as well. But then, I have less patience with pretty much everyone than I did a couple of months ago, so that might be too harsh. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 16:01, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
...for explaining so eloquently what I no longer have the patience to do. Parrot of Doom 12:49, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I mentioned a block of yours in an ani thread:
Br'er Rabbit ( talk) 04:01, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Stop, just stop. I know you are upset, but please just step away instead of posting personal attack.
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15:38, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
he does not seem like the kind of person who is self-righteous, argumentative, negative, pessimistic or bitter, ... He is always polite, courteous, and friendly, everything you could possibly want in an admin. Remember that guy? It's obvious you're Wiki-burnt -- easy place to get and I've been there myself. It's not worth the aggravation and it's not going to do any good to go out on a rant. Take a break for however long you need to. You'll do a lot better by both Wikipedia and yourself coming back as your previous positive self, getting the bits back, and being the admin voice of reason you used to be. And if the break turns out to be forever, that's cool to. You don't owe this place anything and if it's not fun you shouldn't be doing it. Nobody Ent 16:21, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Very sorry to see this, Floq. Sorry that an issue I raised may have been a trigger. You are, of course, right about a lot of what is wrong with this place. Best wishes — David 12:55, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
I see that you've decided to retire Flo. Well, I wish you best of luck in your future endeavors, and I'm sorry to see that you've made a tough decision to retire from Wikipedia. I agree that you've been burned out with the way how things have been going, but don't let that bother you too much. Best of luck. Mr.Wikipediania ( Stalk • Talk) 13:15, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you for not seeming "like the kind of person who is self-righteous, argumentative, negative, pessimistic or bitter, ... always polite, courteous, and friendly, everything you could possibly want in an admin." Remember, you are an awesome Wikipedian! You created a wonderful category. Missing you now, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:09, 19 June 2012 (UTC) |
... today's good story (hidden message: "open mind") -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:10, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
We have never spoken before, and that's probably a condition that you'll long for in a short time. But if your after an impossuzzle which other experienced editors haven't been able to solve, and my inexperience and artificial aura are delaying, then I would like your advice. Penyulap ☏ 23:32, 6 Jul 2012 (UTC)
Was expecting to be near a computer this morning but I'm not. Will comment at AN in a couple hours. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 16:46, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
I am in complete quandary, as I assume that if I make any new comment beyond userspace or noticeboard, or revive an old comment, I would, again, lose my account function. &, I assume worse for any alternate account as well.
I am acting as if none of my accounts have any function.
& there is this persistent malware accusation; I have offered a comparison with a message that I have just received, which you can find in my * today * history.
{{
tb|hopiakuta}}
(replied there). --
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19:15, 31 July 2012 (UTC)hopiakuta Please d o sign your communiqué . ~~ Thank You, DonFphrnqTaub Persin a. 17:20, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind words : ) - jc37 21:57, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Grumble grumble grumble. In all seriousness though, welcome back, if you have any questions, feel free to ask. :-) The Helpful One 22:18, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Considering the recent attack involved working down a list of the most-transcluded templaces and attacking the ones which weren't fully protected, perhaps it would be a good idea to protect any remaining templates with more than, say, 10000 transclusions...? bobrayner ( talk) 22:20, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks, your comment made me LOL: "Original question long resolved, but surprisingly for ANI, this has degenerated into bickering. That hardly ever happens." Arcandam ( talk) 01:58, 2 August 2012 (UTC) |
ANI bickering surprises you? You must be new here. Nobody Ent 02:00, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Please
stop attacking other editors, as you did on
WP:ANI. If you continue, you may be
blocked from editing Wikipedia. Dear Mrs. Floquenbeam,
such comments are an insult to the entire Wikipedia community. By way of punishment I'll have to "tsk tsk" you: tsk tsk!
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I probably deserved the {{ uw-snark3}}, but what's with the Mrs. Floquenbeam comment? (p.s. you Europeans with your cute accents and quaint expressions. It's adorable.) -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 13:46, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
I know my remarks were critical of you, but for the record I do not believe and did not mean to imply that you were acting in bad faith. I think you made the wrong decision and that you incorrectly considered yourself uninvolved, but I believe these to be honest mistakes and I'm sure you are genuinely trying to help this user, we just see his actions and attitude very, very differently. Beeblebrox ( talk) 16:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Just be careful what you suggest re. option b. Unblocks aren't always popular: { example) — Ched : ? 01:59, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
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Hi there. I'm leaving you this message since you were the administrator that left Kvrk4000 this message. Seems like rather than listen, Kvrk4000 created a sock and continues the same behaviour. I opened SPI for the sock, but I thought, considering your message, that you might want to take further action regarding the edit warring. Best regards. -- Muhandes ( talk) 12:16, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks for the support at User talk:Reaper Eternal. I've been involved in a number of edits over the last few weeks that have literally caused me to wonder if I accidentally logged into Bizarro Wikipedia. Your comment means more than you might realize. Your post helps convince me I'm not alone. SPhilbrick T 21:09, 15 August 2011 (UTC) |
But you still have a long way to go to catch up with El C. Risker ( talk) 16:17, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for blocking RonaldMerchant. For your information, I added a comment: User talk:RonaldMerchant#Indef block. Cheers, Zero talk 08:13, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Unbelievable: [2]. Frankly it's a permanent community ban of this user we should be discussing, not the removal of some rant on his userpage.... *sigh* 2.121.29.24 ( talk) 20:42, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Floquenbeam,
Actually, I didn't vote on the DRV and it's acceptable to NAC a snow close. That being said, I did say any admin was free to revert me, and I'll stand by that. I'll point out that the instructions on that page never say anything about being neutral, just that you close base on consensus and in the case of non-admin closes, (as mine was ) that it cannot be a close that I can't carry out (like delete).
So we're clear, I won't revert your re-opening of the DRV per my edit summary, however, I'm not too happy with your choice of words on my talk page:
You can't possibly be seen as a neutral closer. If that isn't obvious to you, then you may not have the judgement necessary to close any discussion here. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 12:10, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
This is more like commenting on the commenter, not the content. Please be more careful in the future (and read IAR as well - and yes, I do claim both Consensus and IAR on that close. @- Kosh ► Talk to the Vorlons► Markab-@ 12:59, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Before you blocked him he posted to my talk page saying sorry he wouldn't vandalise any more. Dougweller ( talk) 15:51, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
I modified the closed discussion because I was in the middle of composing my message and didn't know it had been closed. My apologies. If you want to remove my edit, feel free. I also regret going to all the trouble of my extended explanation, not knowing that Sillystuff had been indefinitely blocked. Oh, well.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 16:41, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your words of encouragement, you are the first one to communicate with me in a collegial and helpful manner. I am a member of the center and did try to get the name unblocked (murrowcenter) through normal channels to no avail. This has been a frustrating experience to say the least. Apparently when an account name is blocked I cant discuss it through the discussion board. I am new to Wikipedia and this has been an interesting experience.
Ericwilliamh ( talk) 23:45, 20 September 2011 (UTC)murrowcenter Ericwilliamh ( talk) 23:45, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the notes.
Ericwilliamh ( talk) 00:15, 21 September 2011 (UTC)Ericwilliamh Ericwilliamh ( talk) 00:15, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Pop! ~~ Lothar von Richthofen ( talk) 14:49, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm really sorry for my behaviour. i guess m just frustrated because i'm new here and don't know how to deal with deletions of my contributions properly..sorry again! -- Heyhello1234567 ( talk) 14:08, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
I just got a perplexed phone call from our Word Processing Dept, asking why a document I sent them had occasional words in doubled single-quotes (''like this''
). To which I replied, "because I want them italicized, of course". Right after I said the words "of course", it dawned on me that this makes absolutely no sense to normal humans. --
Floquenbeam (
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18:12, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Thank you Floquenbeam. Good call. Take care. Dr.K. λogos πraxis 17:01, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks also for sticking around long enough to block Kevinchen(rui) ( talk · contribs). I have a nasty feeling that's a sock. — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 21:31, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
I added a WP:3O for ODB++ but it looks like my request is the only one there. Surely that can't be right? There must be a ton of them? What did I do wrong? Woz2 ( talk) 18:04, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks for stepping in the ODB++ edit dispute I allowed myself to get sucked into. I'm going to try to stay cool in future. Woz2 ( talk) 17:01, 1 October 2011 (UTC) |
This comment was particularly directed at you. ╟─ Treasury Tag► Osbert─╢ 07:45, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
In the future, I would appreciate it very much if you took the time to contact me directly – or at least to seek a third opinion at AN/I or another appropriate venue – before making an unsolicited offer to overturn one of my blocks.
Aside from being required by policy, such notification and discussion is a matter of basic courtesy. TenOfAllTrades( talk) 18:37, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm interested in re-starting that article. -- Shirt58 ( talk) 13:17, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Re, your message; yes. Please and thank you.— Dæ dαlus + Contribs 21:40, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
There was a bug in MediaWiki 1.18 that caused blocks made via the API to have talk page access disabled when it should have been enabled. This also affected scripts such as User:Animum/easyblock.js. Please review the following blocks to make sure that you really intended talk page access to be disabled, and reblock if necessary.
If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to post at User talk:Anomie#Allowusertalk issue. Thanks! Anomie ⚔ 02:05, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
See here. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen ( talk) 15:19, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
I reverted your edit on his talk page here as we walked on each other during reverting. Calabe1992 ( talk) 00:18, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for blocking User:IMASTUPIDNAME. I believe him to be a sock of User:IMAFAKENAME, blocked earlier today. Due to this, I submitted a c/u request at Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/IMAFAKENAME. Could you confirm that I factored that properly? Purpleback pack 89≈≈≈≈ 01:42, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Recently, I request an account block for User:Serna137 for additions to the article Quantum key distribution. The article has since come out of semi-protection and the author is back to adding the content with an IP address. It's OR, likely self-promotion, and he hasn't responded to our concerns in the talk page. I'm not sure where I should go from here. Request semi-protection again? Looking at the article history, this has been as issue since July 2010. Is there anyway to block the content itself? Skippydo ( talk) 15:10, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
for handling the attacker well. I was going to go to WP:ANI, but I did not know the appropriate procedures. — WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 19:45, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
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Okay, seriously, forgive me for the sarcastic, dismissive, dickish comment I just left, and for implying that you were a "lackey" in the first place— both comments were unnecessary, unproductive, and obviously destroyed any chance of effectively delivering the overall point I was trying to make. I could have done so without inflammatory name calling, hyperbole and sarcasm. Occasionally becoming uncivil myself in response to incivility is one of my many flaws, and as TParis said, I have no desire whatsoever to see divisions created amongst ourselves. Swarm X 20:57, 27 October 2011 (UTC) |
Floquenbeam,
Actually, I do. The gentleman in question never said his name, therefore any attempt to guess his name by whatever else is on his page is outing, per policy. Please read WP:OUTING it explains what outing is and that we are not allowed to "Guess" a user's name by any means. Also, let's not threaten with blocks. I'm following policy in this case. @- Kosh ► Talk to the Vorlons► Moon Base Alpha-@ 20:01, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Sorry Floquenbeam, I've read his contribs (at the moment back to Oct 4.) He NEVER says his name. Nor has anyone posted a diff where he has. WP:OUTING is explicit that his identity can't be guessed at, assumed etc.... Either shows a diff of him saying his name or retract your threat, it's that simple. @- Kosh ► Talk to the Vorlons► Moon Base Alpha-@ 20:10, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
They have explained they "THINK" it's him based on what's on his webpage. Again, he NEVER identifies himself, they never offer diffs showing that he did, therefore it's outing. Once again, diffs or retract your threat @- Kosh ► Talk to the Vorlons► Moon Base Alpha-@ 20:22, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Basically, I've been following your talk-page for a while now, and I decided you needed a companion. So here is one for you. They're cute! And provide unconditional love. Just watch out for the pee on the carpet.
Panyd
The muffin is not subtle
22:56, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello I apologize for all that editing. I have added something to the discussion section of Maxwells demon to get it okayed with others. However it was Wknight94 who kept undoing my post saying it was unverifiable when I did cite it and is verifiable. The thing that bothered me most is that even though the other posts where unverifiable and had no citations (in the criticism and dev) sections she did not delete those. When I asked her about them she said I was free to delete them on the same basis of unverifiable. This shows a tremendous unprofessional bias. I asked how to edit so it could be considered verifiable but Wknight94 never gave me a reply and only kept deleting. This is also very unprofessional.
However thank you for taking the time to message me. I appreciate ur concern for wikipedia, as I also value it very much (free information) and wish to contribute to make it better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlanS333 ( talk • contribs) 19:40, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately, having looked at what you're trying to add, I don't think there is a way to make it verifiable. It looks like it came from a paper you wrote, that has not been peer reviewed or otherwise meet the requirements of WP:RS. Am I correct? If I've misunderstood, please let me know. Even if you have discovered something new and correct, there will be quite a delay in publishing it in Wikipedia, because as a tertiary source, we are intentionally behind the cutting edge; we republish information that has already made it through secondary sources.
Wknight isn't really being unreasonable here. He isn't being facetious; if you find other material in the article that is wrong and unsourced, you really can either take it out, or (if you're tired of arguing) mention what specifically you're concerned about on the article talk page. Since you're new, I'd suggest being a little careful if it's a borderline call, and do it on the talk page first. If you think it's correct but unsourced, you can either look for a source, or put {{ fact}} next to the item in question. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 19:51, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
It is not my interest to have things published in cutting edge magazines. I wrote it on wikipedia because I want to inform other readers. I think it is a beneficial addition to the article as it provides another point on view for readers to view. It has been "peer reviewed" however not in the scientific sense as I do not intend to put it in any magazine. Regardless it is a published article, and i'm pretty sure it meets the requirements to be in wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlanS333 ( talk • contribs) 20:35, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
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For remembering that the role of an admin is to defend the Wikipedia, not to harass the editors. GRuban ( talk) 04:32, 13 November 2011 (UTC) |
Hi, Floquenbeam. Per your talk page notice, I'm letting you know I'm unblocking TCO's retired user alter ego. Then I will leave a note on WP:BN for a crat to earn their big bucks by merging the histories or whatever. Long time no see, hope you are well.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 18:31, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Floquenstein. In view of your input on Maunus' page, perhaps you'd like to consider adding yourself to Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to consider placing self-requested blocks? I realise you're semi-retired ( :-( ), but in my experience as a member of the category, it doesn't bring in any droves of customers. Especially after I've told people I go largely by LessHeard's rules for placing such blocks. See also this post. Regards, Bishonen | talk 20:12, 12 December 2011 (UTC).
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I do not intend to be condescending, and I offer this advice to you without any expectation as to whether you'll take it, but your approach to the incident at the above page strikes me as wholly unnecessary. Barts1a might be under (some sort of) editing restriction, but he was trying to help out, and I even see his point. Non-admins are permitted to close XFDs, so how would one know they are prohibited from declining unblock requests (if indeed they are - I'm not aware of such an explicit policy)? You may have had a bad day at the office, misjudged the situation, or something else entirely; I don't know, and I don't much care, but please don't speak to another contributor in that way. AGK [•] 22:38, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Why? So you can call your friends to pile on me there? Barts1a / What did I actually do right? / What did I do wrong this time? 23:33, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Floq. Maybe I shouldn't have done this, being involved, but I blocked 75.21.152.168 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) as a self-confessed block evasion of User:Djathinkimacowboy. Whole thing is rather absurd. Favonian ( talk) 23:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
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I hope you like beer, because through my casual observation it looks like you've earned one recently. Cheers! Erikeltic ( Talk) 03:44, 27 January 2012 (UTC) |
I was trying to help clear the unblock request backlog by declining blatantly false unblock requests and unblock requests which do not even attempt to address the reasons for the block such as the one here. I noticed that after you undid my edit another admin came to the same conclusion (Minus the illegitimate unblock request part; which is probably why you undid it in the first place). Barts1a / What did I actually do right? / What did I do wrong this time? 03:53, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Aye, sure, go for it. :) — Joseph Fox 03:56, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
I thought you might find this interesting - he's removed my comments from his talk page, since after claiming you were "completely mistaken" about him being warned about making unfounded sockpuppet accusations, I was able to show (with diffs) that you were, in fact, correct. Apparently, this was "unconstructive"... hypocritical and hysterical, perhaps... :) MikeWazowski ( talk) 20:54, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Floq, I am going to follow your lead and unwatch the page too. Despite all of the issues I had with the guy, I had hoped that this time he would learn something. I still do, but I'm not hopeful. Pointed edit summaries like these [3] moments after he claimed to "have seen the light" are why I have my doubts... but one thing is certain -- reading them in my watch list isn't going to do me any good. Erikeltic ( Talk) 21:31, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
I have no clue how to use the wiki break enforcer i cannot be around here anymore I'm just about wanting to snap at Murry. over the last year I've been attacked so often and nothing was ever done, That SPI has a been active virtually all day without a clerk or admin looking at it which shows how serious things are taken. I cant stand it any more I'm past breaking point. Murry just dosent get it. If you can set up the wikibreak enforcer then fine. I cant be around here anymore id go so far as to say i don't see the point of this project any more i feel like the whole time I've edited has been worthless . I enjoy being here but cant stand the abuse anymore. Admins need to listen more to users and understand that this wasn't an isolated incident it has been going on for a long time he broke his block condition and personal attacked again its just ridiculous. Edinburgh Wanderer 02:51, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Floquenbeam. I noticed that you enacted the speedy delete request I put on the Roddie Clark article. There's still an open discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roddie Clark; I'm unable to close it as a non-admin closure like I normally would as I've expressed an opinion in the debate. Was wondering if you'd do the honours? (What a nuisance that editor is). Cheers, Dylanfromthenorth ( talk) 00:38, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Just a note to say that I'm glad you did not put a protection lockdown on his talk page. I've had near-zero interaction with any involved party, but I actually had legit wikibusiness on his talk page, and such a protection would have prevented me from communicating with him. I'm not sure anyone but the involved parties ever care all that much when people talk smack on their own user talk pages, so protecting it wouldn't really solve anything. Just being bored and curious I read Djathinkimacowboy's "epiphany" message and the warnings leading up to it, and maybe he'll actually get the point and be more productive and collegial. I'm sure you had entirely legit reasons for blocking him. Anyway, the point is: please don't protect user talk pages, or it's hard to talk to users. ;-) — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 05:16, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Re [4]: I live in California, so the Pacific comes to mind by default. :) — howcheng { chat} 20:46, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I participated in the discussion on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Soap_Operas#Episode_counts_and_updating_times Ït seems a consensus has been reached. What do you think? Can I begin updating episode counts, if no one has done it first? Wingard ( talk) 08:42, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
In a few hours a day has passed, so I wonder if it's ok if I update tonight if someone didn't beat me to the punch? And by tonight I mean, we in Sweden are 6 hrs ahead of the EST times. Please reply ASAP. Wingard ( talk) 15:08, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
I promise. So glad my promises finally counts for something. Thank you for your reply. Wingard ( talk) 17:07, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
I did wait, and it has begun, right? Wingard ( talk) 18:08, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
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For commendable restraint and patience, and hope for a seemingly hopeless editor. -- Djathink imacowboy 03:19, 2 February 2012 (UTC) |
I love your idea. Cheers Manning ( talk) 03:57, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm almost certain I ran across this very same quote two weeks ago. I'll try and find it later tonight if you haven't already found it yourself. Viriditas ( talk) 23:27, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Did you found the quote? What was the name of the prayerbook actually? I got curious, like others ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.76.164.174 ( talk) 14:21, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
It looks like User:Wingard and User:Musicfreak7676 are in a race to see who can update soap opera episode counts first. Both have complained about the other updating the count 1 minute before actual air date. Neither user has exactly bathed themselves in glory over this, and I'm not sure what, if anything, needs to be done right now. However, I'm keeping an eye on the situation and would appreciate it if you would too. AniMate 20:29, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm not trying to fight either, so as MF put it, there's no need to watch out. Not any of us are trying to fight. I'm telling you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wingard ( talk • contribs)
Me neither, not anymore. All is well. Wingard ( talk) 21:40, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
My mistake. Sorry. But the presen-t day episode thing only need to be done ione time right? And it was not intentional. Wingard ( talk) 18:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
I just thiught he reverted my update, but then when he pointed it out I saw he wasn't. It will never happen again. But can you please tell me if the start date he is talking about needs to be updated regularly or just one time? Wingard ( talk) 19:16, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Discussion moved to User talk:Wingard. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 19:36, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. I had hoped that Fastily would notice and jump to action. Drmies ( talk) 17:45, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for doing that with the Vivid Racing article. I appreciate the support. Betty Merm ( talk) 18:14, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Dear Floquenbeam,
My name is Jonathan Obar
user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community
HERE, were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.
So a few things about the interviews:
Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name
HERE instead.
If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.
Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Obar -- Jaobar ( talk) 19:21, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Formatted for you :-) Tweak as necessary. Regards, Steven Zhang Join the DR army! 02:03, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi there. I see you speedied my AdminWatch page under G4. Could I ask you to reconsider? The original close was "Delete - with no prejudice against recreation in different form." I assert that the new page was in a different form and there is not enough similarity between the original and the new page to be eligible for G4. Also, part of the original close was this:
Also, there has been a major change to the page during this MFD ([1]) which removed the usernames of the admins in question and changed the scope of the page drastically, rendering most !votes before this change less convincing, if not moot. (link)
This, I believe, invalidates your closing comment that "The last version of the previous page also did not have the admins' names in it, and it was still deleted" as a rationale. The only admin to assert that the page was not different to the old version is Elen, whose has WP:COI as it was her original G4 that was overturned at DRV. Toddst1 also has WP:COI issues as nominator, and his nomination was misleading - he misquoted the result of the first MfD, and mentioned the two speedies but neglected to say that they had been overturned. -- Surturz ( talk) 02:15, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
I would also suggest Surturz actually read WP:COI, rather than just wikilink to it. I think he'll find it has nothing to say on the subject. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 00:51, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
Anyway, though I disagree with them, SoWhy has endorsed Floquenbeam's G4, so I'll drop the matter. -- Surturz ( talk) 08:39, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
You were the one to block him, so I'm writing to you. He's got a page I need: User:TCO/Fluorine/ref checking 2012. We used (and I keep using) it as a page for the ref checking drive for Fluorine. Could you move it somewhere so I could edit it?-- R8R Gtrs ( talk) 13:46, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
While you were right with that whole shindig, you weren't exactly the most civil with the way you handled it. Barts1a was only trying to help. I've cautioned him against doing it again. N419 BH 09:19, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi. :) Pedro : Chat 22:15, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
I thought since you offered, I would first ask you about my article changes. By the way, could I have written this message back up under the old one? I did look at the inclusion guidelines and at a couple of the Category:Automotive motorsports and performance companies, as you suggested. Here are my questions: 1. In the first paragraph of my article in red is "citation needed", I think it says. Is a citation here a reference or what do I need there? 2. The History section seems just informational to me. Are there any deletions necessary there to you? 3. The Shop seems informational as to what their company offers mehanically for upgrading cars or do you think otherwise? 4. Other Business might need the section taken out "AP has established.....AP brand is recognized globally" and would this then make it less spammy? 5. The same as #4 for the last sentence starting "In combination...." 6. Is the Advertising and Publicity section something that is not acceptable? I thought the references to the magazines, car rally, etc. made it notable. In reading other articles about businesses and their products, I'm having a hard time seeing how much of my article is too much advertising. Betty Merm ( talk) 22:20, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
nflfacts2k2 ( talk · contribs)
This user has reinserted unsourced original research with POV throughout without an edit request on the talk page in violation of COI and the terms of your unblock. The text is exactly the same as the text I removed here. I am requesting you re-block the account. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:40, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind generosity and support in that ANI discussion I was involved with Floquenbeam. Thanks a lot for supporting me. Abhijay ( ☎ Talk) ( ✍ Stalk me) 05:02, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
-- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 10:34, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for taking care of those IP vandals tonight. -- Sailing to Byzantium ( msg), 01:32, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for finalizing that incident report. User:DL took all the wrong steps, but I am in compliance with what I've been told to do. Noticed any other disruptive posts at that page. For example threats posted to disrupt the page. Noticed them?. ANI report inconclusive. Policy page and talk page remain disrupted. Get rid of *me* and it will all be fine and dandy there? Don't think so. NewbyG ( talk) 01:47, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello! When correcting the italics, you missed the closing parenthesis (which I've added). I'm just noting this for future reference, as it occurs from time to time. Thanks! — David Levy 23:31, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
I have read few things more apt than this. I wish I could write things as brilliant. Cheers, 28bytes ( talk) 23:00, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Somewhere it's written in either the mentoring page or an essay on it that mentorship only works if the mentoree wants it to. I stand by what I have said and if someone doesn't like it that is their problem. He is now on his own. N419 BH 06:19, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
There is more development; I hope you can clarify the situation. ~*~ Ankit Bhatt~*~ 16:39, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Let me get this straight (so that I can cite this example later): an editor tells another editor to "Fuck off", and then "idiot", and he is let off with a warning. The other editor demands clarification , and that is liable for banning. Yes, I will make a proper note of this point, and also of the excuse used "I said it at the heat of the moment". That way I can tell everyone how to escape from being persecuted on ANI. Oh, not to mention, I should start making friends with admins so that they will be there to help me out if I get into a problem. Good day, and thanks for teaching me something new. ~*~ Ankit Bhatt~*~ 09:46, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
The moon is currently waxing gibbous [1] and the price of Mansuli Rice in Kalihot, Napel is 60/kg [2]. Unfortunately I have no idea what currency units the 60 is in. Nobody Ent 16:40, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
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For your attempts at resolving a contentious issue between two editors that all began on the talk page for John Carter. Well, regards. Jedi94 ( talk) 21:31, 4 March 2012 (UTC) |
Hi, I noticed you have blocked User:Evilzionistantichrist. Just as a heads up, the edits and username are the MO of the serially banned/sock-puppeteer User:Aryan2012 (See Special:Contributions/Aryan2012). He has been quiet on the articles edited today for a year or so.However, it seems that now his favourite article, Omar Bakri Muhammad, has been protected he may be turning his attention back to some of the other articles he haunts. Pit-yacker ( talk) 20:17, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
HI. I see you've met this feller. I just did, too, about two hours ago on J. Edgar Hoover, where he's removed page needed tags four times and gotten all high-horse about pages not being needed on citations. Rather than take it to WP:AN3, I'll point you at it:
The cites in question refer to whole books and given all the controversy concerning Hoover, pages would be appropriate to justify the claims made; I've no real interest in the Hoover article, as I explained on the article's talk; I just happened to edit it the other day because it was mentioned on Template talk:Cleanup where there's a noisy discussion. Speaking of tags, there's an unhelpful one on your user page… Alarbus ( talk) 11:12, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Though I can appreciate how fun this is for you two, and it may even be intended as a test for me, I call your attention to this
[5] so you may see these things resolve themselves with a ringing beauty. So please, if I may humbly ask, can the slightly drafty little back-nipping I'm feeling from here please cease?
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Djathink
imacowboy
08:54, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
It is not anyone's place to address any 'hurt feelings' I may or may not have. I'm not here to pester you in any way, and maybe I just got too wordy about it. I apologise. Unless you decide otherwise, let's drop it. It's not my intention to keep coming here, unless of course I have a matter of business.— Djathink imacowboy 09:14, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
The ideal would be to just dial back the sensitivity to reacting to others' comments a bit, and simultaneously dial up the sensitivity to seeing others' point of view a little, to get closer to a reasonable balance. my 2 cents, your mileage may very, caveat emptor, etc etc. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 15:12, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm so sorry I couldn't respond sooner, I had an unexpected delay shortly after I made my request to User:Bishonen, I had to leave the house for a few hours and I just got home, I Thank you for taking the time to block my old account at my request, I apologize that I was not here to contact you sooner, if only there was a way to let people know when I'm logged in or not so I dont seem rude, Just know your help is appreciated. – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 22:45, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Your decision to close this out with a conventional block (not an AE block) looks fine to me. Conventional blocks ought to be considered more often at AE. Do you mind if I change your closure box at AE to look more like the usual AE style? EdJohnston ( talk) 03:22, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
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(>**)> Mucho hugzies for your input on that IP's talk page. I hope that poor guy comes back and at least sees it. Pesky ( talk) 21:49, 7 March 2012 (UTC) |
I was going to do something special for edit #10,000, but I wasn't paying attention and wasted it on the middle of a mass rollback of a vandal. </mope> -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 04:12, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks. I assumed my comment might start a fight and I'm sorry for assuming the worst. v/r - T P 17:02, 8 March 2012 (UTC) |
Hi, I see that you indeffed Penguinluver1431. Quite a relief!
You will likely want to extend the block to User:Penguinluver9581, per Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Penguinluver1431. Thank you for your attention. Binksternet ( talk) 21:08, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Floquenbeam! I'd like to say a brief word about what you wrote, at Arbitration Enforcement, "I have, with some trepidation (all the rules about AE scare me, I'm sure I'm going to do something wrong and be desysopped and then shot and then desysopped again) blocked Rejedef indefinitely. This is explicitly not an AE action ...". I thought you'd like to know that last year the community revoked the second "desysoping" in the protocol you describe. Some regular AE participants were of the opinion that it should be replaced with making the erring admin listen to this in the afterlife, instead, but wiser heads prevailed, and the overwhelming consensus was that that was just too cruel by far.
Seriously, though, I just wanted to express my appreciation for your participation at AE, and would like to encourage you, and other admins, too, to do so more regularly, if you can possibly find the time. I've followed reports on that board for a year or two, now, off and on, and certainly feel that broader participation from our admin corps would be all to the good. I say so because there have been intervals where the great majority of "rulings" there have come from no more than two or three people; there have even been stretches of multiple weeks where a single admin ( no longer very active on the board ) seemed to be turning in 80 - 90% of the decisions there. Of course, such thin participation on an important board like AE is far from ideal.
I understand from the notice at the top of this page that you may be curtailing the time you spend on Wikipedia, but I nevertheless wanted to say "thank you" for finding the time to look in at that board, and encourage you to do so in the future. Best, – OhioStandard ( talk) 11:41, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Jeez. 28bytes ( talk) 01:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
<--What is the matter with Night Ranger? And if he's asking for a block, why isn't it granted? Drmies ( talk) 02:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
I thought rationing was more prevalent in the US. I remember my great grandmother telling stories about having to split up semicolons and selling the periods for scrap. 28bytes ( talk) 20:01, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
As you note, semicolons were also commonly broken apart, with the resulting periods being sold for scrap, and the resulting commas adding to the general oversupply. In the early years of the war, Liberty ships full of surplus commas were sent to Great Britain, but so many were sunk by German U-boats that there was very little positive effect, and even when the ships got through, it was uneconomical, and the Brits didn't really know what to make of the funny-looking American commas anyway. After large storms, you can sometimes still see crates of commas wash up on the shores of Ireland, having spent over sixty years on the bottom of the North Atlantic. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 20:29, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
I saw you turned down the unblock request on this editor, I have came across this editor Mikelimerick , an editor from Limerick uses the same language and seems to not like public transport. Edits styles are similar including his how does it work, an you an employee of wiki? and on Stanbidder1 murry1975 why are you deleting my edits? are you employee of wikipedia?. What is the best thing to do next, a SPI? Or try to reason with him again? Murry1975 ( talk) 13:27, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
I see you blocked fully, I was trying to reason with him, trying to get him to read the guidelines and understand but he really did seem to believe Wiki was the place to vent his voice. Thanks for your help, I have a feeling its not the last sock from him. Murry1975 ( talk) 18:05, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
I noticed you found yourself in the middle of NCSIfan2's nonsense last night. Please see the message I just left for MuZemike: [6]; I have come to suspect NCSIfan2 is a sockpuppet, as detailed in the message. I've asked MuZemike to weigh in before I take this to the appropriate SPI, and given your recent interaction, thought I should make you aware of what I'd found as well. -- Drmargi ( talk) 18:39, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
I've replied with two things to your point of view on the ANI noticeboard. Thank you for being with me on the matter and enjoy your day. Abhijay What did I do this time? 13:15, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi, i don't know what happened to Dave, but about these weeks he was really not that friendly. I think it might interest his activity about this article: [7] that actually he put in the deletion discussion. As i did of my best to improve the stuff, about Hunter's service with Swiss Air Force and i am available to improve it further (and accept other's help if/when offered), but i did not expect that Dave put it in the deletion discussion page as well.
The tag that questioned the article's existence was put on 11th and should have last until 18th march, so i had 7 days to improve it, as i did. Someone lifted the article from the threat to be deleted (because he rated good enough the article to be retained in Wikipedia..), but Dave, not happy enough, opened quickly the deletion discussion page about it. This is the crono: [8] I wouldn't mess with it as i am the only contributor of that article, so i would be really POV about it, even offering objective things. But the Dave's attitude really sickened me, before reverting anything i wrote in Hawker Hunter article, and later, trying to destroy entirely the spin-off article, in spite it grew a lot from the pruned section (see Hawker Hunter talk discussion). I think that Dave was totally aggressive and even insulting (your ignorance/incompetence [9]) towards me, have abused of some wikipedia's rules and kidded me when i tried to put it in a objective manner. I did not return back in Wikipedia to be handled like a moron, but it is happened and Dave, IMO- seems more focused to attack me rather than do the best for Wikipedia. He may be a good boy, but if i acted like him, i would be kicked out as 'vandal' or 'troll'. Just my 2 cents. Stefanomencarelli ( talk) 15:09, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you for momentarily solving The Dumbest Feud In The World(TM). Drmies ( talk) 16:11, 17 March 2012 (UTC) |
This guy should have been indef blocked. I think you just used the same duration as the IPs by mistake. Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 18:29, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
I had a very nice, polite email from FLM. He's taking a bit of time to learn his way around the WikiRules on notability, WP:V, WP:RS, etc., and is intending to drop some apologies around to the people he got into spats with and insulted, which sounds promising.
I think he'll probably be OK, he knows that any step out of line is likely to result in an indef block, so hopefully he'll settle in now and become a useful, expert and productive editor. His passion reminds me a bit of me when I came back to the 'pedia after a very long break, having only produced one article before, though he's a tad (!) more trigger-happy than I was! Montanabw was incredibly patient with me (as were several others from WP:EQUINE), and got me onto the right track, when they could very easily have lost patience with me instead.
Fingers crossed that all will go a lot more smoothly now. Pesky ( talk) 08:09, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Just saw your edit summary at WP:ANI. I've actually already indef blocked DaftEco2 as a sock, with talk page access disabled. But you're welcome to overturn or modify any part of that if you think it would be worthwhile. -- Boing! said Zebedee ( talk) 14:39, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
I confirm that I have requested an account on the UTRS tool. Floquenbeam ( talk)
I am sorry for have been such a dick to you recently, and I'm sorry for all that I've done. Take care. P.S. I found Abenyosef through Special:Requests for Unblock, just where I found User talk:Stoljaroff1987. Abhijay What did I do this time? 07:11, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello Flo, I recalled your username but not the unpleasant circumstances until you referred me to the ersatz Talk page for 'Quintby' with lower case B. To the best of my knowledge I had no role in creating this Talk page, and to the limited extent that I have the knowledge to check the existence or non-existence of a second quintby, however capped or non-capped, I came up emptyhanded. Do take a look as well at the user page for this lower-case-b Quintby and you will see that it is completely empty as is the edit history for same.
Not only was I not acting in bad faith here, it would seem to me that someone else acted in bad faith by somehow managing to create a 'Quintby' Talk page, from the looks of things, wholly out of thin air. Presumably, the edits made to the lower-case-b quintby Talk page by me are genuine. i know that there was someone in the past who excoriated me for saying that someone was impersonating me and I now suspect that I was becoming confused because other editors were jumping back and forth between the quintby Talk page and the QuintBy Talk page.
As I've just today added, I have very serious brain damage, serious enough that I have been told that I should not even be minimally conscious much less capable of writing fairly cohesively. But the linear nature of writing makes it far easier to carry out than dealing with jumping back and forth between pages - it all ends up in a jumble which I often simply cannot untangle.
As I already cannot recall what was on the lower-case-b Talk page such that I can address it further I'll simply end by saying that you are more than welcome to e-mail me, although I'm uncertain by what means. Confusedly yours, QuintBy ( talk) 21:34, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
You're a good egg, and all that, and we don't have much "history" so (hopefully) I won't end up being accused of looking for some pro-Pesky support or anything. :D (and I trust your judgment and impartiality).
There's been a bit of trouble brewing between a long-term experienced editor who takes a lot of responsibility for stewardship of WP:EQUINE GAs, FAs, FAC's, etc., and another editor. The Eq. specialist asked me for some input, and was followed over to my talk by the other editor (see the collapsed content on my talk page). I've had to ask the other editor to stay off my talk now, and I feel it's best that they and I try to avoid interacting as it's obviously not going to go well. (You probably know enough about me to realise that having to do that is as rare as a very rare thing, etc.)
I spent several hours going through loads of the history to try and work out the ins and outs of the matter, and discovered that editor 2 (S.) has a talent for misrepresentation of situations, so that's one to beware of. There was definitely some WikiHounding / WikiStalking going on demonstrated by the fact that S. (with whom I have never interacted before) came straight over to my talk intent on prolonging arguments (some of them months old) from elsewhere, and I strongly suspect that that isn't the only time that editor M. has been followed around to prolong arguments.
My own impression, from looking at the long and involved background, is that S. is a bit OTT confrontational, a bit WP:TE (though with good intentions, I'm absolutely sure), and tends to resort quickly to accusations of WP:Ownership etc. I know they mean well and seem to have the interests of the 'pedia at heart, and they've also provided some absolutely stunning Commons contributions and are clearly very expert within their own speciality.
Could you possibly wander over to their talk and have a quiet, gentle chat with them about toning it down a little bit, letting old arguments go, stalking, and generally being a bit nicer? I really don't want to see this situation escalating to the point where we'd have to be looking at RfC/U, or sudden appearances on the dramah board, etc.
All the best, and granny-hugz ;P Pesky ( talk) 19:34, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to reply here, and use vague wording, to minimize drama; I don't really want to get dragged into this by making direct accusations, and if things have died down there's no sense using actual usernames and notifying people and getting their back up. I also looked into this less deeply than I would if I was going to actually do anything about it. Feel free to point M to this if you think it worthwhile to do so.
Some people are more brusque than others. It's an almost unsolvable fact of life that such people can make other, gentler editors not enjoy working with them. Open, collaborative editing does mean you can't heap personal attacks on others, but it also means you need to have at least a minimally thick skin and accept criticism, even when it is sub-optimally given. (There may be some watching this page who think I should practice what I preach more in this regard)
I think one of the people you're asking about looks difficult to work with, and has personalized disputes that didn't need to be personalized. I don't think I've seen anything lately that could be "sanctioned" per se. I also think (and this is unfortunate) that an unsolicited comment from me would not have any desired effect. This seems a grey area that Wikipedia is particularly ill-suited to deal with.
I think the other person you're asking about is kind and generous, but probably takes brusque criticism too hard. If I were assigning relative blame, this editor would not be who I would focus on. However, since I suspect they are open to advice, I'll say that it's best not to try to pick unnecessary fights with people, even when you are technically right, and even when you think they're a jerk.
So, for example, when someone who annoys you has created a page at a title that is not quite correct, MOS-wise, but isn't really hurting anything, it really isn't a great idea to try to fix it, or file a move request. Wikipedia is far from perfect, so fixing a small imperfection you found a detractor make is going to end up doing more harm than good. It certainly sets the stage for them to do the same thing to you further down the road. Someone else will no doubt notice it eventually, well before Wikipedia is finalized, and it will ultimately be fixed without your direct action.
This isn't great advice for people who have a black and white view of right and wrong. But it is probably at least semi-decent advice for people who are less interested in "justice" than they are in enjoying editing.
FWIW. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 16:19, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
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This is to help the stuff which you've bitten off, and don't think you can chew, to go down more easily ;P Pesky ( talk) 15:42, 22 March 2012 (UTC) |
Hey Floquenbeam, how's things? Good I hope. Need some help with 74.60.24.250 who continues to readd a large swath of original research to the WRIR-LP page. I have posted to the anon's talk page with no response. We are both at 3RR (I have issued a warning to him) so I can't revert any further, so I thought an admin talking to him would help. Take Care.... Neutralhomer • Talk • 21:36, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
-- George Ho ( talk) 00:49, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Today should be a very good day for me. After a calvarious path, the Hunter in Swiss Air Force is finally saved. But.. it is happening something different now. Someone is never happy enough to play with rules. Next time i'll have the insane idea to write a new article in the aviation section, i'll surely think twice and more instead. Regardless of the 'legitimate sources' i think it is really borderline, if not worse, to question the basis of an article just saved today! And by who, then? A guy that cannot even understand that the sources are 'PD', and shouts about 'copyright issues'. Shall i presume 'good faith'? There is definively the need of some advisors, as i fear to be involved in a very murky dispute. I don't know how it would end, but if interested, the discussion continues here: [10] Stefanomencarelli ( talk) 21:18, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Hey Floquenbeam, the email address you entered for your UTRS account doesn't appear to be valid, we got a bounce notice from the toolserver when TParis approved your account just now. Could you send me an email so I can update your email address in the database? Thank you! Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 01:42, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello Floquenbeam, you've got mail. Strange Passerby ( talk • cont) 12:23, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
It was my edit, sorry - I am not sure why this thing happened - but I think that it is a bug - this image is on MediaWiki:Bad image list +(second bug - it was in nowiki). Bulwersator ( talk) 07:07, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Floquenbeam, I noticed your block here on one of the SPA. However the other one has not only kept this frivolous complaint up but has repeated it on numerous talk pages. I would suport the call for a CU to be done. -- Domer48 'fenian' 11:38, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
When an editor is blocked, should a regular editor leave a blocking template on a blocked users talk page or should an admin do so? Ab hijay ☎ 13:33, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Abhijay/Soviet King, I've just noticed your "Retired" banner. By all means take a break, but don't be too disheartened! Aspie/Autie people can end up making excellent Wikipedia editors, and I personally know several people on the same scale as you and I who are admins here, so it's certainly not much of an impediment to progress. Any time you feel you're not quite sure of an explanation, or just want to chat with me or others on the same scale, come over to my talk page. I have stalkers on there who are also Aspie/Autie, and who were incredibly helpful to me when I goofed up as a newbie, who would be delighted to help you out when things get tricky. Cheers, Pesky ( talk) 08:41, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you Pesky. @ Floquenbeam, if you are too steamed to talk to me, I guess that I will agree on a few things here. But before we go to that, please note that I'm sorry for having used my disability as an excuse to get away with what I wanted. Yes, it was over the line, and I owe you an apology for the disruption caused. Before I put this matter to a final end, please note that I left the message at Joniquq's page because I felt that he was being a target of a potential block. In this case, it wasn't and I'm sorry for that as well. I now understand that at WP:ANI, I should carefully assess a person's contributions before commenting on a proposed block. With you saying that I shouldn't post at WP:ANI just will not make me edit there. I want to contribute to WP:ANI because I assume good faith, and so are you. Conflict, sure isn't my thing as I added potential 'fuel' to the conversation there because I thought that ThisThat2011 was doing it on purpose, but after seeing his reply on the talk page, I understand that he too went over the line. Editors like them I agree could be a bit difficult to work with (given his apparent judgmental attitude), and I admit I was a bit angry upon reading his comments. You have to admit that ThisThat's jibe seemed rather hurtful, and as Aspie's we tend to proceed in such a way that we often don't realise what impact it would have on ThisThat if I reacted like that. Having said that, I agree conflict may not seem the strongest of my contributions to Wikipedia, and entirely this case was based upon human error and stupidity. I am more than happy to contribute less to conflict between editors, but I feel that it is generally hurtful for you having said that I caused trouble at WP:ANI. Please acknowlegde the fact that I didn't know that ThisThat meant really, and that I acted without having realized that. And note that I actually found out that he went over the line after saying that, and I too went over the line. It would be very rude of me not to accept your constructive criticism on my talk page. I appreciate your constructive criticism, and as and admin it is your duty to make sure stuff is clean and right in it's place. Saying that I use it (my disability) as an excuse will not help me improve on Wikipedia. After all, everyone is trying to the best to make this project like a great big resourceful book isn't it? Up today, I didn't know that rules existed where Administrators can block someone if they post a blocking template on someone's talk page, and I never knew that Templates are a pre-requisite if someone does something stupid on Wikipedia or if they are blocked. Conflict at WP:ANI may not be strong, but in the past I have reported several users for Edit warring. That's enough said of me, and have a nice day. Soviet King ( talk) 10:44, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Oooh, huge pro-tip! Stop thinking of it as a "disability"; it really isn't, it's just a "difference" in the way we process thoughts and perceptions. Pesky ( talk) 11:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! I think I was going through the right motions (e.g., alerting Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics) but obviously I should have done that well before I got to 5 (or however many) reverts. I'll definitely be more careful in the future. Best, Joel B. Lewis ( talk) 02:05, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello, You have allowed User talk:Soumitrahazra#Discussion is not optional him to edit one month ago. Now see, he is not listening to anybody in spite of many messages. And I patrolled his contribution page, he is not doing assessment properly and not writing any summary after notice. Thank You. -- ɑηsuмaη ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ 13:58, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
[15]. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 01:18, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
It's gone now. The idiot that defended the vandalism got a VERY STERN warning to boot. http://commons.wikimedia.org/?title=User_talk:Fry1989&diff=69091558&oldid=69087649 . Discussion was closed as "Deleted: Blatant Vandalism. Why are we even having this discusison?". Barts1a / Talk to me / Help me improve 08:49, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
As you were typing your final warning to Spyder Grove ( talk · contribs), I was blocking him for disruptive editing. I'll defer to your judgement and let you decide if he should be unblocked or not. Regards. Salvio Let's talk about it! 13:50, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
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Just because you're a darling ;P Pesky ( talk) 18:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC) |
Hello, I've attempted to enter new information under the seventh heading of Wikipedia's "Trisection" webpage entitled, "By infinite repetition of bisection". Such information references a relevant 1995 United States copyright.
So, in conclusion, The other edit warring partner whom I previously identified is named -- User:D.Lazard and JUST DELETED MY ATTEMPTED ADDITION. This represents his third deletion of my work. As opposed to allowing such user to make decision as to what copyrighted information is bonafide, I would appreciate if you NOW INTERVENE in this matter. If you check my talk page for March 29, my appeal to MuZimike, item (3) requested his intervention so this type of problem would not continue after my block duration had ended. And this is exactly what re-occurred.
WIKI-1-PIDEA ( talk) 19:28, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Please read these; they will help prevent you from being blocked from editing here.
Thank you. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 21:03, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
RESPONSE TO: "You can't copyright an idea" as listed above, .....
WIKI-1-PIDEA ( talk) 21:31, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
RESPONSE TO: "Please don't source anything else to www.truescans.com. It is not a reliable source" as listed above, .....
WIKI-1-PIDEA ( talk) 21:24, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
RESPONSE TO: "The idea that the current wording of that section of angle trisection is a copyright violation, and that your version somehow fixed it, is bizarre. You do not have a solid rationale for your version".as listed above, .....
WIKI-1-PIDEA ( talk) 21:24, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
After some discussions with other contributors, i have temporarly quit about this stuff, as it became too warm even for me. But, even if i quitted , someone didn't stopped to insult me. I think that Dave's gratuitus attack was really gratuitus and offensive, as i could be many things, but i am not surely a troll. Regards. Stefanomencarelli ( talk) 12:59, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
"In general, it is perfectly acceptable to notify other editors of ongoing discussions, provided that it is done with the intent to improve the quality of the discussion by broadening participation to more fully achieve consensus."
Therefore I'm notifying you of ongoing discussions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 April 1#Category:Wikipedians who wish Bish and Giano would come back, as I believe that you may be able to improve the quality of discussion on a topic in which you are interested. The oxygen of publicity! -- RexxS ( talk) 19:46, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I am so so sorry. I mistakenly blocked you while I was going to block an attack account on you (which should be blocked soon). I was looking at the block screen for the person and I took out the end part of the username and I must have clicked enter. Gah. -- Bsa dow ski1 20:59, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for declining my speedy deletions and giving the advice you gave to the editors. What you said is true, I am a little overaggressive when it comes with even possible promotion in userspace. I'll try to calm myself. :P Regards, Whenaxis ( contribs) DR goes to Wikimania! 13:46, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Y'know that hinty redlink you left on my talk?
WP:ASPIE and WP:AUTIE are now in existence (same page but those are the shortcuts) A work in progress, obviously ;P Pesky ( talk) 18:49, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Floquenbeam, you were right and I was wrong, and I should have known better. First of all I would like to apologize for what happened at WP:ANI. Yes, I went tad over the line, and I'm sorry for that, but please note that the matter wasn't based upon human stupidity, but It was just a misinterpretation of the issue and I will like to apologize; I will admit to you at that stage I was a bit upset upon viewing ThisThat2011's jibe there, and I didn't know that he didn't mean to burst out like that. I agree that an editor such as him can be difficult to work with at times, given his apparent short-tempered attitude bursting out with comments he didn't mean to say and starting a drama like that. And I apologise for the quote send to another editor's page; I will admit I misunderstood what one editor was actually meaning by that. If you simply had a bad day because of this, I'm sorry for that. Lastly, I've noted that you too tend to lose your temper a little bit too much Floquenbeam. I agree that editors on Wikipedia tend to have their frustrating days and they tend to give you a hard time on your job as an admin, but please don't let that bother you too much. Soviet King ( talk) 04:40, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Dear Floquenbeam,
I have emailed info-en-o@wikimedia.org already but not in time to stop my article "Leyla Ergun" from being deleted. Can I put it back on please? if I remove the fact that I have written a book? as everything else is the truth and by I would say December 2012 everyone will have proof that what I say is the truth, or would I have to wait until December? It would help billions of people if my new article would be accepted please? please read my blog? The Importance Of Love By Leyla Ergun
Best wishes
Leyla Ergun — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leyla Ergun ( talk • contribs) 17:02, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't know why, but your edit summary here gave me a good laugh. Funny thing is I only saw it after I accidentally tripped the rollback on you. Calabe 1992 15:19, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Since you blocked the new trolling account, User:SirKills, I thought I'd bring this to your attention. User returned to edit this comment in via IP: [22], which could be construed as a legal threat. Equazcion (talk) 00:28, 14 Apr 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for taking care of the "Nigger" talk page vandal. Fasttimes68 ( talk) 02:04, 14 April 2012 (UTC) |
Don't worry, you didn't wreck my day :) I tried to think of a proper/aristocratic way of saying underwear--I was unaware of that double meaning! Mark Arsten ( talk) 15:47, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I can't find the Barnstar of Plain-Speaking in the Wikilove toolkit, but if I did I'd have to put one here for telling the (Redacted)s at AN/I to knock off the (Redacted) (Redacted). Go (Redacted) yourself! 28bytes ( talk) 19:57, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
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Your lovely quiet way of asking the obvious question makes you just as cute and cuddly as this kitten! Have a big snuggly Granny-hug ;P Pesky ( talk) 11:02, 17 April 2012 (UTC) |
[23] Will do, also [24] this was Nangparbat. Darkness Shines ( talk) 14:25, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
What should I do about this guy? I don't want to block him or haul him to AN/I, but he's been making questionable edits (e.g. "fixing" the correct publisher of a website to match the wrong title, changing "plan to produce" to "have produced" when the reference says no such thing), and he's completely unresponsive to queries about what he's doing. Thoughts? 28bytes ( talk) 18:43, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
"Wave"ing back at you. Calabe 1992 00:03, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
You are so right. I was just thinking the exact same thing. That I just couldn't beat your edit summary on Black hair and maybe I should hold back. My better sense failed me though. Apologies. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγος πράξις 01:22, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
You may care to reconsider your position. [25] Malleus Fatuorum 03:25, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Hey Floquenbeam, stop it already. I appreciate it, though. Listen, as weak as it sounds, I don't have much of a reason to oppose a ban for badmachine. They have made positive edits, and they are also a timesink, though not to a great extent for me anyways. I'll never understand that GNAA stuff, ever--but I cannot support blocking just because of that, and IMO badmachine isn't nothing but a troll. Also, the only thing I've seen that could be called trolling has to do with their own user page--but I have not followed their edits very closely, so it's very likely that I would have missed something.
The section I pointed at, at ANI--I broke a lance for someone and unblocked them, and within a week they first proved that they were really a jerk and then that they deserved an indef block, which I gladly gave them. In other words, I'm wrong about these things all the time, and that your argument for blocking is objectively stronger than my flimsy argument for not blocking is more than likely. It's just that I don't like blocking in cases where you actually detect a human behind the name, not just an asshole with nothing better to do. OK, enough out of me. Thanks. Drmies ( talk) 03:42, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Back in college, I used to work part-time for a Muslim professor. At one point he wrote a letter to the editor titled "Racism against Muslims", which I thought was odd, since Islam was a religion and not a race. I asked him, wouldn't it be more precise to call it "Bigotry against Muslims"? But he assured me that racism doesn't have to have a race as its target; one could legitimately be "racist" against religions, nationalities, etc. I wasn't quite convinced, but OK. Fast forward to this year, where I've seen more than once the claim that Wikipedia engages in "racism against IPs". Meaning, I guess, that unregistered or logged-out editors as a class are a "race". I'm 85% sure the "racism against IPs" meme is pure trolling rather than ignorance of what racism is, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see the claim appear that objecting to the racist trolling of the GNAA means that one is "racist against the GNAA". So stay tuned for that. I suppose I'm in a vanishing minority (see what I did there?) of people who actually think that using racist terminology for teh lulz is not something that should be tolerated. 28bytes ( talk) 16:18, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
I note that you blocked his neighbour's IP. Is it okay if I remove his comment from my talk page? Since it already showed he is a friend of the other user? Gorgak25 ( talk) 00:53, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Lunchtime. This in appreciation of your impeccable use of negatives. Now get the fuck away from Wikipedia and try to finish your work--and I'll try to do the same. Drmies ( talk) 18:13, 3 May 2012 (UTC) |
I am not unappreciative of this note, assuming it was not mistakenly misapplied to the wrong page (wait, I think I pushed my luck too far). -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 18:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
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Take this. Floquenbeam. From User:Abhijay, a.k.a Khvalamde. Khvalamde : Holla at me 11:29, 4 May 2012 (UTC) |
Upon reading this quotebox, Pod thoughtfully hands Mrs Floquenbeam a fishapod plushy from his ample store, all sewn and stuffed by the great Yomangani. (YoMama is truly a man of many talents.) Now Mrs can play, too! bishapod talk to your inner fish 21:56, 4 May 2012 (UTC).
So. I'm keeping the plushy for myself. Or perhaps I'll save it and give it to my daughter when she's older; she's a nerd in training, so I'm sure she'll eventually edit here too, and appreciate hand-made electronic plushies (not the mass-produced crap they sell as webkinz). -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 20:44, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi there. I have chosen you as one of the editors who may request my resignation as part of my my recall procedure. Could you have a look, and confirm whether you're happy being on the list? Thanks. ItsZippy ( talk • contributions) 17:09, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
No need to apologize, I understand, thanks for keeping an eye on the situation. I hope he/she calms down and returns as a productive editor. Arcandam ( talk) 03:21, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Good day, thank you for blocking the IP vandal, 89.205.24.130. Just FYI, he appears to have created a permanent account and is continuing to edit war: User:Agamemnon s. Regards, DP76764 ( Talk) 16:53, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
As an active donor and supporter to Wikipedia i feel angry for being punished without breaking a single rule on Wikipedia. People who are protecting violated the Terms of Use. I will raise this dispute to higher levels of Wikipedia even demand my donations back because i was misleaded by the message of Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agamemnon s ( talk • contribs) 16:55, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
1. It's not my website. 2. It's not spamming. 3. I didn't broke any rule. 4. I will return my donated money, but it will bad record for the foundation, and someone will ask why i want to get my money back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agamemnon s ( talk • contribs) 17:11, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
We will see who will lol at the end. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agamemnon s ( talk • contribs) 17:26, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Your unblocking of my account is greatly appreciated. In retrospect, I definitely should have just reported this to admin earlier and stopped with the reverts; won't happen again (regardless of whether it technically was allowed under the rules.) But, your stepping is is much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoelWhy ( talk • contribs)
I may have misinterpreted, but I don't think so. It looked like there was a shot (a small one and I've thick skin) at me in there. I just wanted to note that I've tried to clarify my thoughts there. I hope you can see the point I was at least trying to make. If not, well, such is life.-- Cube lurker ( talk) 21:03, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
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The Admin's Barnstar |
Thank you for your assistance with my on-again-off-again ban (not to mention for pointing me towards an enlightening article about the use of skeleton warriors during the Peloponnesian War!) JoelWhy ( talk) 21:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC) |
Gee, thanks Joel. Glad I could help. I wonder if I hang out at CAT:UNBLOCK all day, if I could just rake these things in... -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 22:04, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
I appreciate your taking care of a couple of hundred deletions WRT Plum90's mass tagging. I was gonna attack the task after my HG session and, lo and behold, no work for me to do :)
Anyway, I wanted you to know that you had back-up...see ya 'round. Tide rolls 02:18, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
This edit: ( [27]) was a complete outburst and I just find this rude and just another outburst of vexation. While I can sympathize that I did have a bad time at WP:ANI noticeboards, and you telling me that I shouldn't get involved in other conflicts as it wasn't my thing, this was completely uncalled for. I don't take bribes, nor do I take this bribing offers if I brang a discussion to WP:AN. There was nothing wrong bringing a ban discussion about a user, and I do not see why you are so irked off with it, and calling it "ridiculousness". If you do think of it as "ridiculousness", I am more than happy to welcome any constructive criticism/feedback. Perhaps you are just having a bit of a bad day - It certainly does flow in once in a while. This is the third time I am seeing these outbursts from you, and still I am assuming good faith, so please don't push my goodwill. Khvalamde : Argue, Scream, Chat, Yell or Shout 04:18, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
-- Floquenbeam ( talk) 15:04, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
This is related to the above section.-- Jasper Deng (talk) 04:39, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia! SwisterTwister talk 20:05, 18 May 2012 (UTC) |
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hey Floq,
I really don't know what to make of this and would like your opinion on it, as I figure you're just as well-versed with SK as I am. Please see the message I received here from an anon IP. — Strange Passerby ( talk • cont) 13:27, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi. It's one you blocked. He says he's had time to think about it and would like to be unblocked (he requested you blocked him). You know him better than me.. Secretlondon ( talk) 20:00, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
I commented on your post at WT:AC, and I had some ideas that I'd like to get your thoughts on.. (if you have free time). [28], probably used WAYYYYY too many words to try to propse it, but this is jsut an off-the cuff first draft. SirFozzie ( talk) 21:52, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
I notice that you unblocked the above, after he promised that "trolling and personal attacks are not going to resume", however it looks like his fist two edits here and here were just that, clearly attacking my motives. Mt king (edits) 20:39, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
I see you've decided to step down — and I assume you're taking a step back from everything in general, too. Best wishes in whatever you decide to do. — Strange Passerby ( talk • cont) 13:24, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
That's really, really, nice of you all, but some of you make it sound like I'm dying, or moving to Canada, or Meatball:GoodByeing, or something. I just gave up the bit, I haven't Quit with a capital Q. I suppose I'll save all these up and copy/paste them when/if I do leave, so I don't just hear crickets? -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 15:04, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Hey Floq, I was also a bit dismayed with your giving up the bit again, but that's not why I'm here. Regarding that SPI case, I've got no problem at all with you reverting my close. You might want to drop a line to the CU, though, since they're not particularly active at SPI and might not notice your request otherwise. Cheers, and enjoy your break ;) — DoRD ( talk) 01:13, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
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The Barnstar of Integrity |
Thanks for your words of wisdom on that SPI. May not make any practical difference, but getting a probably-incorrect badge of shame corrected was nonetheless the right thing to do. 28bytes ( talk) 15:47, 27 May 2012 (UTC) |
Thanks very much, 28b. "Wisdom" is my middle name (although sometimes I lie and say it's "Integrity". -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 14:14, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
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The Barnstar of Good Humor | |
"I know the cat's dead, but I still have to wonder if the expression on its face is somehow related to the installation of the "rudder assembly" I was swigging some pop thru a straw when I read that quote. Some pop did escape and land on my shirt and laptop. First time I've ever done that before. Thank you Bgwhite ( talk) 21:31, 4 June 2012 (UTC) |
Please see this AE which as The Blade of the Northern Lights states: "Comments from other admins would be really nice too." Ankh. Morpork 10:55, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi Floquenbeam. I don't know if you remember, but back in March I took User:Jayblackcar's userpage to mfd for being about a non-existent album and an artist whose claims to fame appear to be false. I don't recall now how it ended up at ANI (whether I took it there, or someone complained that I was biting him). Regardless, his userpage was deleted and I don't think he edited ever since. I just noticed User:Jesseblackcar, who started editing in may, and whose userpage is the exact same information as Jayblackcar's deleted page as far as I can tell.
I'm unclear if you are around, but figured it was worth a try to run it past you what you think the next step should be. I haven't looked into the details yet to see if he has modified the spurious claims. I don't want to slap a new editor, but this seems to be more a case of deception than honest newbie errors.
Any thoughts? Thanks. Syrthiss ( talk) 14:47, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
I believe I was in the "don't bite the newbies" camp last time, and disagreed with the result of the MFD. But, that can't last forever, especially when the user makes zero effort to attempt to communicate, nor any attempt to, you know, help make an encyclopedia. I don't have the magic x-ray glasses anymore to see deleted contribs, but the new user page looks the same as I remember the old one looking. If you look at Links to the image, it appears there are several other accounts being used too. Since, in spite of my note on their talk page last time, they did not attempt to communicate with anyone, I think we're into "not your personal webhost" and CSD#G4 territory now, and I have no real concern about biting a newbie anymore. If I were an admin, I'd be tempted to (a) leave a message on their most active account's talk page reminding them of the MFD; (b) delete all the user pages, (c) ask them which account they'd like to keep, and block the others, salting their user pages, and (d) explain that continuing to recreate the page again will probably result in blocking the remaining account as well. But then, I have less patience with pretty much everyone than I did a couple of months ago, so that might be too harsh. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 16:01, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
...for explaining so eloquently what I no longer have the patience to do. Parrot of Doom 12:49, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I mentioned a block of yours in an ani thread:
Br'er Rabbit ( talk) 04:01, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Stop, just stop. I know you are upset, but please just step away instead of posting personal attack.
KTC (
talk)
15:38, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
he does not seem like the kind of person who is self-righteous, argumentative, negative, pessimistic or bitter, ... He is always polite, courteous, and friendly, everything you could possibly want in an admin. Remember that guy? It's obvious you're Wiki-burnt -- easy place to get and I've been there myself. It's not worth the aggravation and it's not going to do any good to go out on a rant. Take a break for however long you need to. You'll do a lot better by both Wikipedia and yourself coming back as your previous positive self, getting the bits back, and being the admin voice of reason you used to be. And if the break turns out to be forever, that's cool to. You don't owe this place anything and if it's not fun you shouldn't be doing it. Nobody Ent 16:21, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Very sorry to see this, Floq. Sorry that an issue I raised may have been a trigger. You are, of course, right about a lot of what is wrong with this place. Best wishes — David 12:55, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
I see that you've decided to retire Flo. Well, I wish you best of luck in your future endeavors, and I'm sorry to see that you've made a tough decision to retire from Wikipedia. I agree that you've been burned out with the way how things have been going, but don't let that bother you too much. Best of luck. Mr.Wikipediania ( Stalk • Talk) 13:15, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
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polite, courteous, and friendly, missing |
Thank you for not seeming "like the kind of person who is self-righteous, argumentative, negative, pessimistic or bitter, ... always polite, courteous, and friendly, everything you could possibly want in an admin." Remember, you are an awesome Wikipedian! You created a wonderful category. Missing you now, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:09, 19 June 2012 (UTC) |
... today's good story (hidden message: "open mind") -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:10, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
We have never spoken before, and that's probably a condition that you'll long for in a short time. But if your after an impossuzzle which other experienced editors haven't been able to solve, and my inexperience and artificial aura are delaying, then I would like your advice. Penyulap ☏ 23:32, 6 Jul 2012 (UTC)
Was expecting to be near a computer this morning but I'm not. Will comment at AN in a couple hours. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 16:46, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
I am in complete quandary, as I assume that if I make any new comment beyond userspace or noticeboard, or revive an old comment, I would, again, lose my account function. &, I assume worse for any alternate account as well.
I am acting as if none of my accounts have any function.
& there is this persistent malware accusation; I have offered a comparison with a message that I have just received, which you can find in my * today * history.
{{
tb|hopiakuta}}
(replied there). --
Floquenbeam (
talk)
19:15, 31 July 2012 (UTC)hopiakuta Please d o sign your communiqué . ~~ Thank You, DonFphrnqTaub Persin a. 17:20, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind words : ) - jc37 21:57, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Grumble grumble grumble. In all seriousness though, welcome back, if you have any questions, feel free to ask. :-) The Helpful One 22:18, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Considering the recent attack involved working down a list of the most-transcluded templaces and attacking the ones which weren't fully protected, perhaps it would be a good idea to protect any remaining templates with more than, say, 10000 transclusions...? bobrayner ( talk) 22:20, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
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The Barnstar of Good Humor |
Thanks, your comment made me LOL: "Original question long resolved, but surprisingly for ANI, this has degenerated into bickering. That hardly ever happens." Arcandam ( talk) 01:58, 2 August 2012 (UTC) |
ANI bickering surprises you? You must be new here. Nobody Ent 02:00, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Please
stop attacking other editors, as you did on
WP:ANI. If you continue, you may be
blocked from editing Wikipedia. Dear Mrs. Floquenbeam,
such comments are an insult to the entire Wikipedia community. By way of punishment I'll have to "tsk tsk" you: tsk tsk!
Drmies (
talk)
19:20, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
I probably deserved the {{ uw-snark3}}, but what's with the Mrs. Floquenbeam comment? (p.s. you Europeans with your cute accents and quaint expressions. It's adorable.) -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 13:46, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
I know my remarks were critical of you, but for the record I do not believe and did not mean to imply that you were acting in bad faith. I think you made the wrong decision and that you incorrectly considered yourself uninvolved, but I believe these to be honest mistakes and I'm sure you are genuinely trying to help this user, we just see his actions and attitude very, very differently. Beeblebrox ( talk) 16:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Just be careful what you suggest re. option b. Unblocks aren't always popular: { example) — Ched : ? 01:59, 4 August 2012 (UTC)