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Thanks for your help with deleting the MSP Partners page. As you can probably tell, I'm a new wiki user and have a lot to learn. Best regards, Core — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coresim ( talk • contribs) 13:41, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
Mighty fine work there, Boing. Doing a Google search for references and 'accidentally' clicking "Images" brought back lots of teenage memories. Happy days, Drmies ( talk) 23:14, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
Guild of Copy Editors March 2011 backlog elimination drive report
Greetings from the
Guild of Copy Editors
March 2011 Backlog elimination drive. Thank you for participating in the March 2011 drive! This newsletter summarizes the March drive and other recent events.
![]() There were 99 signups for the drive; of these, 70 participated. Interest was high mainly due to a link to our event from the Watchlist page. We had a record-breaking 84 articles listed on the Requests page in March; 11 of these have been promoted to Good article status so far. Several of our recent efforts have received Featured Article status as well, and the GOCE is becoming a solid resource for the Wikipedia community. Many thanks to editors who have been helping out at the Requests page and by copy editing articles from the backlog.
Remarkable progress was made in reducing the backlog this month, as we now have fewer than 500 articles remaining from 2009. We are well under the 4,000-article mark for the total number remaining in the queue. Since our backlog drives began in May 2010 with 8,323 articles, we have cleared more than 53% of the backlog. A complete list of results and barnstars awarded can be found here. Barnstars will be distributed over the next week. If you enjoyed participating in our event, you may also like to join the Wikification drives, which are held on alternate months to our drives. Their April drive has started.
On March 21, SMasters appointed Chaosdruid ( talk) and Torchiest ( talk) as Guild coordinators to serve in place of The Utahraptor, who recently stepped down. Please feel free to contact any coordinator if you have any questions or need assistance. Your drive coordinators – S Masters ( talk), Diannaa ( Talk) and Tea with toast ( Talk) |
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Hello, have you read talk:Yellowstone Lake and talk:Yellowstone National Park ? I hope you will read them before removing that edits. Lkmen ( talk) 19:32, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi, i noticed you're comments in this Afd. When looking at the talkpage of the creator of this article it seems there is a history of a similar pov. His strange POV becomes more clear when looking at this post from 2 months back. This style becomes evident when looking at his other templates and articles and contributions. Pass a Method talk 15:59, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Timeline of 1st century B.C.E. Muslim history ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
The whole point is that if you look at the John the Baptist article on Wikipedia it will say born 5 BC. This article says 15 BC and that is another problem because it is completely wrong and historically inaccurate, and there is absolutely no source for this. Besides this the date conflicts with the date on the Wikipedia article entitled John the Baptist. Also logically if Jesus was born around 4 BC to 6 BC, how could John the Baptist be born in 15 BC when he is only one year apart from Jesus. To learn more about this try reading the Bible or something so that you can understand that all the dates in the article are wrong and historically incorrect. Besides this it conflicts with sourced Wikipedia articles like John the Baptist. Another point is that there is no Timeline in the Quran, therefore any Biblical character mentioned in the Quran would have the same birthdate and deathdate, since no dates are mentioned in the Quran, there is no difference in chronology of Biblical characters such as David, Solomon, John the Baptist, Jesus, etc. This is why I deleted these wrong and unsourced information because it is wrong and misleading and all you have to do to verify what I am telling you is true is look on a Wikipedia article such as John the Baptist and click on its source, and you can see for yourself. 99.125.86.244 ( talk) 08:58, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you seemingly randomly, but I noticed you were actively editing at the moment. Could you do me a quick favor and tell me if the file in the infobox at Tornadoes of 2011 is updated with the graph going out to April 3rd? I uploaded such a version but I can't get it to display the new version through refreshing or purging, so I can't tell if the upload worked or not. Ks0stm If you reply here, please leave me a {{ Talkback}} message on my talk page. 17:12, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
For all your hard work, help and attention to this latest problem. Take care. Dr.K. λogos πraxis 18:57, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your input on Readercon's AfD. I'm finding it impossible to
WP:AGF on this guy any more. (By the way: the hardcore members of
science fiction fandom tend to hate the term "sci fi", as it carries overtones of the kind of crap shown on the
Syfylis Channel and bad comic strip memories of the
Buck Rogers era.) --
Orange Mike |
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13:34, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Is it at all possible to revoke Swe41's talk page access? I doubt after 3 failed unblock requests that he will ever be unblocked and well to be honest he is just annoying :P Zoo Pro 17:04, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing. I checked about the origins of the so-called theory proposed by Swe41 because it sounded vaguely familiar. In fact it is not actually a theory but a rehash of the plot of the film Inception. First published in a blog by someone named: Swe, it actually includes a reference to the film Inception, quote: (...easier to understand if you have watched inception). The so-called theory then migrated to Wikihow.com where it is up for deletion. The deletion proposer complains that she cannot find any reference for the theory anywhere. At the article discussion page at Wikihow an IP proposes that there is afterall a reference for the theory, and you guessed it, it is a Wikipedia mirror of the Lucid dream article from Ask.com.. Guess what, the mirror doesn't have any mention of the theory because it was deleted at its origin in Wikipedia. Dr.K. λogos πraxis 21:38, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
By the way he deleted for the second time the section on my talk where he admits he used falsified sources to keep his theory on Wikipedia, even as in the next edit he conditionally apologises. I just noticed this and reverted it again. Dr.K. λogos πraxis 22:35, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
From the wikiHow article discussion page an IP signed as "Chris" 82.9.127.45 said:This is great! praises the theory. The IP 82.9.127.45 is also the same as the sock here. Dr.K. λogos πraxis 23:57, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
From Samir's talkpage at wikiHow.com: Krystle said: Hey there, thanks for sharing an article on "The Erraou Theory". I can't find any documentation of that theory anywhere, though, even on Wikipedia. Where is this theory from? Who invented it? Where did you hear of it? On 20:44, March 29, 2011. Dr.K. λogos πraxis 01:13, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for unblocking me. And I'm done reverting edits. But this time. I'm sorry about edit warring. And I will Never report any other users again. Can you forgive me. Fjp1995 ( talk) 19:36, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks - i wasn't sure about the referencing bits, and just added it as i thought i had to. Do i need to provide a reference to add or edit a post? I understand this: "Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted. Encyclopedic content must be verifiable." but could you tell me what constitutes 'Encyclopedic content'? Can I do it again? thanks, -- SusiBArt ( talk) 11:58, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
What's up with NBN trouble? Or the TV3?-- 180.180.6.115 ( talk) 13:31, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Forget to introduce myself! You can call me fun17092008, i'm from malaysia and I like Thai TV!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.180.6.115 ( talk) 13:32, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Your edit summary "do ref properly" is somewhat aggressive, particularly since I was caught by an edit conflict while trying to fix it. Since you think I'm not adding references properly, I'm happy leave you to it ... Hyperdoctor Phrogghrus ( talk) 17:19, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Your words at the ANI were very comforting. Indeed, it was a good-faith mistake and having you weigh in like that at the end was very nice of you. Thanks. Greg L ( talk) 20:44, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Jeez processes on ANI are inconsistent. I’ve seen them go on for days and days without any admin action. This one was “shoot first—ask why he’s carrying a cash register down the street later”. Greg L ( talk) 20:54, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing, Just letting you know that in my opinion ERALA ELECTION - VOTE FOR CORRUPTION AND CASTE OPPRESSION was eligible under G11 or G10. I saw you rejected A2, but chose not to delete it under G10 or G11. Was there any particular reason for that? Martijn Hoekstra ( talk) 20:26, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing. Despite all the water throwing going on outside my office window, it looks as if I'm the coordinator of this project. Although I started it, I'm an admin already and have nothing personal to gain or loose, but I don't really want to be seen as the leader or pushing my own opinions or ideas. I know you're already very busy on many aspects of WP, but would you consider being one of the permanent coordinators of the project? It would mean moving threads to their respective new sub pages as they occur, and perhaps striking or removing inappropriate or irrelevant comments, and generally keeping the whole thing on track. If we start a very short coordinator list, I would put my name on it. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 02:08, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi Zebedee, I've redone your changes to Transport in Burundi, as you had perhaps inadvertently undone other changes I had made. As you'll see from the edit summary, it should effectively be my old version, plus the railways bit that had been moved to Rail transport in Burundi (which I have copyedited), plus the few other minor changes you made.
I noticed that you were unsure where to leave the Railways section, and I have left it at the end (where I'd put it last time). It had actually started at the top, (ie above Roads), and I'd be very happy if it was moved back there to be in line with guidance at Wikipedia:WikiProject Transport, but I cannot find any. There just seems to be a convention to put Railways first, but to my mind, it doesn't make sense when there aren't any.
The normal structure for articles like this would be to start with History, then the Present situation, and then Future, which would still put any Railways vapourware at the end. You may have seen my rant on the "Rail transport in X" articles at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains#Redirects?, and I think that much the same goes for "Transport in X". (Reply here). Tim PF ( talk) 15:26, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Why does reverting a title that coincides with the content of that discussion back to an untitled discussion provide more clarity then a defalted "no title"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.201.255.165 ( talk) 10:16, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
I editted the title. What "push of a point of view offered in my answer are you referring to? My title edit did not include any expression of an answer or opinion, but it did accurately reflect the discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.201.255.165 ( talk) 11:12, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Landalva ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
I have been having a think about the situation with regard to the three articles Landalva has been editing and that are subject to my merge proposal. I'm not sure if a blocked user can edit anything other than their talk page but if they can edit their own userspace then would it make sense to move all three articles into that space while Landalva works on them?
The constant changing of purpose on Ardash Shree in particular does rather take on the appearance of almost being edit tests. Moving all three would not unduly compromise the WP coverage (indeed, them not being there might at present improve WP's image even if not its coverage). It would enable Landalva to develop them in peace and, subject to review, they could later be moved back into mainspace. The proviso as I see it would be that Landalva must agree not to introduce any further articles in mainspace until these are either binned by him or accepted for mainspace by an appropriate admin; failure to impose this might just lead to further circumvention attempts. - Sitush ( talk) 10:53, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Just substituting the cheeseburger(!) Rcsprinter Gimme a message 16:23, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
It is important that the public understands what cwp is. It is being used by government and was used to clean up Chernobyl Nuclear disaster, If we do not create the awareness of what CWP is than toxic water and contamination will continue to kill and cause cancer. Why don't you block all other chemical related articles, definitions and clean up methods that are posted in Wiki. Simply deleting this important information is unjust and not fair to the public. They need to know that there is an alternative to other chemicals and hope with technology like cwp for situations like what is happening in Japan, CWP was invented for cleanup of nuclear disasters, nobody knows this because people dont understand what it is or even that it exists...Since they don't understand they just ignore it and delete it thinking its spam! We have show that this is real and that this is a currently applied solution not an ADVERTISEMENT!...I think humanity deserves at leas the awareness...Do you not agree? Don't be so quick to judge and shut down important information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justyjuice ( talk • contribs) 20:25, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
How is it strange if its true. Its an actual product no different than chlorine and bubble gum... why would it not be defined in wiki... it is creditable and tested by over 19 institutions globally, this is not a personal concern ...its a fact. you seem to accept defining chlorine in wiki but why not accuse that of being someones concern, why is there a bias against new market technology being applied, what makes you an expert in deciding the credibility of bio-nanotechnology and Molecular organic chemistry and its new market uses? Seems you are telling me that anythig that is not understood is labelled as not creditable and should be deleted.. that is silly...What are your credentials to make this decision, did you do the proper investigation into understanding the true potentiality of this technology and current applications... seems that this is more of your own personal concern because you don't understand what CWP is, perhaps i should clarify in more detail in the article? hence the purpose of posting this article to create an understanding and awareness of this technology...It needs to be defined, its not a personal concern...??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justyjuice ( talk • contribs) 20:45, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Given your opposition to my nomination, is there any advice you can offer me since I do intend to try again in the future. You did say I was a good editor, so therefore I need to pinpoint what exactly you look for in a candidate. Of course your response and whether or not you support its totally up to you. – BuickCentury Driver 17:12, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi B!sZ. For my sins, I've taken Rcsprinter on as a mentee. I'll be keeping an eye on his edits, and hopefully he should be able to learn from his mistakes. I was wondering if you would consider commuting his block to time served, if he'd commit to not making amy more anti-policy edits. If not, I understand, but since he has accepted mentorship, I thought I'd ask. WormTT · ( talk) 13:49, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks everyone. Rcsprinter Gimme a message 14:59, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Hello Boing! said Zebedee, how do I become an administrator?
Yours Faithfully, King Finland — Preceding unsigned comment added by King Finland ( talk • contribs) 18:49, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi King Finland - in case you haven't seen it, I've replied over on your Talk page -- Boing! said Zebedee ( talk) 20:27, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing. Now that we have both participated, I can ask what your take is on this (Q11). It is being used to obtain feedback on this contentious discussion. I have seen other indisputable evidence of systemic bias and tendentious editing, not only, but also during my own survival in the snake pit. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 17:18, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing!, IP user 68.37.124.56 is still being stubborn about submitting unsourced content, specifically by adding character ages again at Fanboy and Chum Chum Special:Contributions/68.37.124.56 Thanks! Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 16:33, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I have sent 2 coppies of my unblock request to arbcom, one in march, and one in early April, but no response, so I am seaking advice, what else is there for me to do, I'm totaly out of ideas and I have lost faith in wikipedia. what can I do? 204.112.104.172 ( talk) 06:24, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, and sorry to bother you. I see that you worked out what Landalva was doing, which is more than I could figure when I saw the edit earlier. Anyway, another query from me if you have the time to assist.
What can be done in a situation where an IP contributor, who has made plenty of edits on related topics, consistently fails to use edit summaries? It is a bit of a nuisance, even though I guess we should rely on summaries anyway as anyone can say anything there, regardless of what their edit actually comprises. I have already issued a standard warning template & also tried to explain in a separate message. The edits are often controversial and sometimes arguably POV-pushing. There has been a lot of weird (to me) behaviour but underneath it all I have the feeling that there may be sometimes be useful info from an informed person ... if only they would actually cite etc.
Talk page is User_talk:113.150.9.211, although it is often blanked. There was an AN/I report filed by me relating to a different issue with the editor yesterday (now resolved as someone else stepped in to revert the material). - Sitush ( talk) 10:25, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Yomiel ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Hi, Zebedee. Since you were involved in blocking Yomiel, can you please look at the contributions here and here, as well as the recent ANI thread? I am really concerned with his inability to maintain civility and no personal attacks, as well as disruptive editing. I already gave him a final warning here on his talk page, but he has swiftly removed it. Is there anyway to help solve this problem? Thanks, Darth Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 02:33, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Never mind. It's already been taken care of. Darth Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 02:42, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Didn't I tell you? I said this would happen. The minute my block was lifted, Sjones' witch hunt continues. This makes the third place he's come after me since my block was lifted. He gave me a final warning unjustly on my talk page, and he won't leave me alone. I'm sick of being treated this way and portrayed as a disruptive editor. Make this guy leave me alone! He gets away with what he's been doing because he acts polite. No one is really paying attention to what he's saying. Yomiel ( talk) 02:44, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Hey my recent article DESIGNDHAKA was deleted, maybe the reason was advertising. But the fact I was not promoting any products from that brand and was just putting info about that brand that people get to know about that. Now, as that has been deleted, I want to re write that article and this time want to make sure anything is not wrong. Is it possible to write again with that same name?-- Iblish ( talk) 18:35, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
As soon as I saw your message on the ip's talk page, that you had reverted at the same moment I did:-)-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 11:22, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
The anon editor you recently blocked for overlinking after I started an Ani about him came back today and basically started right up where he left off. I wasn't sure what to do (another ANI?, AIV still seems wrong somehow) so I thought I'd bring it to your attention. I've cleaned up after some of it and tried dropping another warning on his talk page. My next step... ? Millahnna ( talk) 18:20, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your level-headed attempts to resolve the dispute at WP:ANI#Editing from 125.162.150.88. I seem to have been too terse in my description of the technical problem, so perhaps I can explain to you in a little more detail, as each extra editor that understands properly increases our ability to avoid such problems in future.
In many tables, there are two possible data items to consider: a single year like 2005 or a range like 2005–2006. If we write the range using an en-dash, then all browsers including Safari 4.1 will sort them as we would expect. However, Safari 4.0 does not sort them properly, but it would work if we used a hyphen instead of the en-dash. Jack prefers to ignore the Safari 4.0 problem as it requires no 'fixes' or difficulty for editors to implement and it uses en-dashes per MOS:ENDASH. Gimme prefers to use hyphens or as a written form like "2005 to 2006", neither of which comply with our guidance to use en-dashes and keep table entries compact. It is possible of course to use a sort key like {{sort|2005.5|2005–2006}} – which works with Safari 4.0 – but you then have to put a sort key on every item in the column (otherwise it screws up on Safari 4.0 again!). So there you have it, three possibilities: one is simple and MOS-compliant but fails on Safari 4.0; one is also simple and works on Safari 4.0 but fails to comply with MOS; the third solution works with all browsers and is MOS-compliant but takes effort to implement and maintain.
Personally, I dislike Gimme's option since he has to keep watch over every article where he uses hyphens or words, because users and bots regularly come along and change hyphens in date ranges to en-dashes. He then has to revert them and get involved with trying to explain why he's making an article non-MOS-compliant. No wonder he gets grumpy! I should make clear that I've worked with Jack on a number of initiatives to improve usability and accessibility (like the "plainrowheaders" class) and regard him as a wiki-friend, so you will have to take that into consideration when judging my comments. Nevertheless your efforts to settle these issues are appreciated. Regards, -- RexxS ( talk) 22:06, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
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Well I think Wikiprojects would be a good place. It came in handy when announced at Actor long ago. Also maybe we could announce it at places like tables to get that group too and finally can a notation be put at AN/i? I know that's not what it's for but it is well watched. Just some suggestions from my first thoughts ;), -- CrohnieGal Talk 11:38, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
I've started a draft RFC at User:Boing! said Zebedee/Sandbox/RFC - please make any comments at User talk:Boing! said Zebedee/Sandbox/RFC. Please do not start any discussion in the RFC itself yet - I just want comments about any errors or omissions that should be rectified before it goes live. Actual discussion of the issue itself should wait until it's live. (And please note that any personal attacks or incivility at this stage will be removed) -- Boing! said Zebedee ( talk) 15:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing! I was wondering how a thread that I had commented on at ANI a couple days ago had finished finished up. When I couldn't find it in the archives I dug into the edit history and found that you had made this comment [4]. First I should thank you for the best wishes - I only wish that they were merited. I was trying to make a lame (really lame as it turns out) joke about the Royal Wedding overload that had assaulted my TV for the previous 72 hours. Oh well, if I had just been a tad more thorough and typed "Royal" in my edit it might have raised a chuckle :-) Thanks again for the thought and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 01:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi, just letting you know that I have merged and redirected the weird Ardash samiti article into Khanpur_Saidpur,Ghazipur and requested a CSD of Khanpur village. I see no point in delaying this any further.
When (ohpefully!) the CSD has gone through I will go into the target article and clean it up a bit ... but do not expect me to find references for an obscure Indian village!
Hope this is ok with you, as the only commentator to the very short merge discussion. With User:Landalva as the only other major contributor to the articles, it seemed daft to delay. But feel free to call me daft for doing it. - Sitush ( talk) 12:37, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
I was not trying to continue any kind of edit war. It is very UNCLEAR in Wikipedia how to go about things. I have no idea where to go to do what you have said. I want to do it the correct way but it just is not clear how to get to the different areas to do it the correct way. SO how do I get to the place that you have said. It's taken me this long to get to know how talking to anyone in Wikipedia works. How do I do what you instructed in your last telling off that you just gave to me, which of course I wasn't trying to get. I want this resolved so I'm NOT going to do anything else that stops it being resolved. HELP!!!!!!!!! ( Bertbert1 ( talk) 12:42, 3 May 2011 (UTC))
I have crossed swords with Francis E Williams before but found him to be thoroughly unpleasant and vindictive. Luckily he doesn't edit on Somerset-related articles now so things have quietened down nicely (look at history of Transport in Somerset for some evidence of his past behaviour) and I just ingore him (although he is still on my watchlist) and we do have a couple of articles in common. I must say I'm really surprised you let him get away with that bating incident just now. -- Simple Bob a.k.a. The Spaminator ( Talk) 18:04, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
The Guild of Copy Editors – May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive The Guild of Copy Editors invite you to participate in the May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive, a month-long effort to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy-editing. The drive began on May 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on May 31 at 23:59 (UTC). The goals of this backlog elimination drive are to eliminate as many articles as possible from the 2009 backlog and to reduce the overall backlog by 15%. ! NEW ! In an effort to encourage the final elimination of all 2009 articles, we will be tracking them on the leaderboard for this drive. Awards and barnstars We look forward to meeting you on the drive! Your GOCE coordinators: SMasters, Diannaa, Tea with toast, Chaosdruid, and Torchiest |
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Dear Boing! i am about to edit the deleted article LogicalDOC. We produced the new version of the content here in my user space [5]. I think that the article is objective and follows the Wikipedia rules. In addition please take a look to this talk page User_talk:Sprmw7/LogicalDOC, to have an opinion from another Wikipedia administrator.
I ask you if i can proceed recreating the article LogicalDOC with the new contents.
Best Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sprmw7 ( talk • contribs) 09:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Many thanks i will do. Best Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sprmw7 ( talk • contribs) 06:18, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
That one you deleted while I was doing the other one - it was actually true. There was a group of them sentenced for flogging fake Persil and this was one of them. (I've heard of faking in many fields, but never before washing powder!) Peridon ( talk) 17:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Drums fingers
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Catfish Jim & the soapdish 17:28, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
After dozens of blind revets by Mr. Norton, I have to spell it out, and I'm not sure he will accept the obvious that easily. Anyway, it's under debate at ANI, I hope somebody will appear who can read the evidence. I'm determined to get rid of this obstruction. If people can destroy my articles without anybody caring, I will voluntarily leave Wikipedia. Thank you for your interest the matter. Kraxler ( talk) 17:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Re the BLP/N edit conflict - I was using the browser on my phone, and it seems to ignore the edit conflicts some times! Sorry, I wasn't trying to gag you! Regards, The-Pope ( talk) 11:46, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
I just have a low tolerance for users like that. I'll leave it up to another admin with a note on the talk page. Thanks, Boing. :) -- PMDrive1061 ( talk) 16:39, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
One - I'll be away for the weekend without mains power and not much time to edit anyway. Could you keep an eye on my talk page in case people start getting excited about something or other? Two, I've put a couple of comments on User Talk:Ebrahimi-amir and a very brief bit of translation. (No, I can't speak North Azeri...). He's been on az-wiki since December 2010 and seems well-behaved and to have been awarded barnstars. His interest in the Qozlu, Ardabil article comes from his having created it here and at az-wiki (where it's written in South Azeri and I can't do anything with that...). He seems prolific with Category work and to have created quite a few articles. I think there's been a misunderstanding here, and possibly he could be safely unblocked. Knowing what referencing and linking is like on other Wikipedias, it might have been an acceptable link over there. Anyway, that's my 2p worth... Peridon ( talk) 19:21, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
I think you're doing a good job on the site. Keep up the good work. – BuickCentury Driver 22:44, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing. I had already deleted this once, so then he tells me on my tp to restore it for him so he can work on it, so I tell him to get where he got it before, but not to repost it at Wikipedia! -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 13:19, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
While we are taking care of these copyright violations, I have tagged one of the users uploads ( File:File-Soviet Air Force MiG-31.jpg) for speedy deletion as redundant to a currently used fair-use image. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 14:44, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
FYI, I've restored this article which you deleted (and salted) this article as copyvio since there was an OTRS tag on the talk page confirming permission. VernoWhitney ( talk) 16:01, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
And they wonder why they're blocked: [6]. TN X Man 16:44, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Could you please unprotect my talk page now? 24.177.120.138 ( talk) 18:31, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
On ENGLISH WHELPS ( talk · contribs). It is a rare combination of block settings: 24 h, account creation disabled, "offensive anti-English user name". Materialscientist ( talk) 03:29, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
So, how you getting on with the mop? You seem to have a very busy talk page with lots of interactions, so that's good! Just thought I'd drop through and say hi :) Ged UK 07:46, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
[7] 7 days for 1 IP edit four days after last vandalism, 2 days since semi removed, and that edit in an entirely different time period from the others... just seems a little pre-emptive to me? --Club Oranje T 12:13, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
The revision
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ajaib_Singh&oldid=428093774
is nice and simple, clear and to the point, and free of any 'controversy', much to the chagrin of the English-illiterates. So please either remove the entry, or permanently make the link I provided as unchangeable, and everyone will be happy, everyone with half a brain, that is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qwertyste123 ( talk • contribs) 07:33, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Whatever, go learn something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qwertyste123 ( talk • contribs) 08:11, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
You see Boing, the problem with having a title like 'editor' or whatever you go by is, suddenly you think you know something. All you know how to do, judging by your comments, is work with illiterates. BTW, an i-l-l-i-t-e-r-a-t-e is someone who doesn't know how to write, spell, or express themselves in English, but if you don't believe me, you can look it up. It was fun (not)... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qwertyste123 ( talk • contribs) 08:46, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
What's your opinion on User:ActionAmbulance and User:Oneofthescotts? Should they be blocked too, or no? No legal threats coming from them obviously, but one is a user name issue and the other was vandalizing. — Moe ε 17:40, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
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In the last 48 hours, it seems that every single page on my watchlist has had some gross outbreak of utter stupidity, POV, random insults, or just a general failure to move forward the aims of the encyclopedia. Did I mention stupidity? By coincidence or otherwise, in the majority of these incidents, you turned up with calm, measured, thoughtful actions or advice (including blocks, where necessary) and things were generally better. -- Demiurge1000 ( talk) 22:43, 10 May 2011 (UTC) |
Thanks for helping sort out this apparent ongoing issue with the Template:San Jose Radio article. I reverted all of the edits that the editor did which removed the template from the radio station pages (about 23 radio station articles in the San Jose area were effected). I do not understand what the problem with the template is, but I suspect the editor has something against the area. This is the second time he/she has done this. I again thank you very much for your help. Hopefully this is the last time. -- ḾỊḼʘɴίcả • Talk • I DX for fun! 23:21, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing! said Zebedee! I have a problen in Azerbaijan (Iran) article with Xashaiar . I write my opinion in Talk:Azerbaijan (Iran). I don't want to inter edit-warring. Please help me. Best regards.-- Ebrahimi-amir ( talk) 04:23, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
I am disappointed to see, that you deleted the article ELIZAVETA KOPELMAN (user: elizavetakopelman) on the basis,that supposedly it was a direct copy from the internet site www.duecapi.com Well, it was not ! If only you have read it through from the beginning to the end, you would know, that it as in fact NOT a direct copy. I request an apology from you, and the article ELIZAVETA KOPELMAN to be back on the site.
elizavetakopelman Elizaveta Kopelman 11:57, 12 May 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elizavetakopelman ( talk • contribs)
Oh,and you should do your job properly, if you are made an 'administrator', and also learn to exercise courtesy and mind your own business, where it is required (my user name etc is non of your business) Just who on earth do you think you are ? A bit of so called internet power and you think you are entitled to treat people this way ? You should not be performing this kind of administrative work, and wikipedia should dismiss you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elizavetakopelman ( talk • contribs) 14:29, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
You might want to review your block notice - user does not appear to have edited 24 hours. pablo 10:42, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Guild of Copy Editors May 2011 backlog elimination drive update
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Admittedly American actress, film and casting director sounds more important than her reality, as a voice-casting director for video games. Nevertheless, there does appear to be enough coverage of her work (mostly coinciding with her death) to survive AfD. So although I disagree with the edit summary, good call Jebus989 ✰ 16:02, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Sir,
Im a fan of Jamy ong (a youtube singer/coverer).. i was trying to make her a wiki site but it said it was deleted and could only be edited by admins.. please let me make one..please —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hermacio ( talk • contribs) 16:29, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I believe you deleted an article for the football (soccer) player Louis Laing, of Sunderland A.F.C., on 24 March 2011 - quite rightly, I'm sure. Anyway, he made his first-team debut yesterday so now he's genuinely worthy of an article. Was the one you deleted worth resurrecting, or shall I start a new one? Clicriffhard ( talk) 18:38, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
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Please block IP 130.88.92.8 as an admin. Look at his talk page! Thanks. Rcsprinter Gimme a message 15:40, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
can you please help me to manage the images as you said in Talk:Ajaib_Singh? Ajaib Singh is dead and an historically relevant person so maybe i did right uploading this picture in that way: File:Ajaib_Singh.jpg, maybe not... but thinking more on it, is better a portrait like File:Ajaib.jpg or File:Sant ji.jpg for the page.... -- GurDass ( talk) 16:04, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing!, Sorry to bother you. Might I please request your eyes on a recent edit by IP user 68.37.124.56. User has submitted an unsourced air date for an episode that hasn't aired yet. This false info has been submitted before by other IP users. Probably the same kid. Either way, they aren't getting the hint that unsourced content, edit warring and shenanigan submissions are polluting the page. [14] Thanks, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 03:59, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Thanks for the help in my review. I was hoping that you could look at this page. I think it remained fairly notable up until my edits ended. Then a member of the YES! organization added all of the teams as section headings. I am afraid people will look at this and decide it is a non-notable list of teams. Can you remove that as I was once part of the organization and it would look bad for me to remove them. Ryan Vesey ( talk) 15:47, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing, I believe your link/example on naming disambiguation pages supports what I am suggesting. Athletics should be renamed "Athletics (disambiguation)" according to the WP page you reference. Then, the Athletics page can simply redirect to one of the two content-rich pages I'm suggesting. This creates a win-win, because we follow the WP guidelines, and the user can better navigate WP to find the information. If you would, please look again at what I'm suggesting. Sincere thanks. TommyKirchhoff ( talk) 16:56, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
The Magic Roundabout it was called something else but this it was a strange movie. -- Tonkatrucksblue ( talk) 01:18, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Just wanted to thank you for chiming in on the Pfistermeister ANI discussion. I can kind of see where Bugs is coming from, but to my mind saying, "It's okay to flame other editors as long as their edits are actually worthy of flaming," is opening the door to a world of problems. Thanks again! Doniago ( talk) 20:27, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
thanks for reverting to ignorance. you are a perfect example of why wikipedia is not to be taken seriously. go take your gang and celebrate your victory by using a nice steak dinner... you ROCK!!! -- Sfiga ( talk) 15:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
You went through and deleted a lot of my factual contributions to Wikipedia - some of which are in arbitration. I would merely ask that you offer CONSTRUCTIVE criticism to help me make my generaous donations better. A real editor is not just a deleter, but rather a helful coach. Escientist ( talk) 16:55, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
I hope these actions are ok with you, [15] [16] seemed the best course to take, but let me know if you have any issues with either. Dreadstar ☥ 02:42, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
I am very sorry for accusing you of administrative abuse. I also mean no ill will to you. I hope we can be on friendlier terms from now on. Shakinglord ( talk) 04:22, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
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How do. I tagged a statement as needing a citation in March and someone removed it today. It is not what I would consider to be a massively controversial statement, although it is indubitably in need of a cite. I have opened a discussion on the article talk page & a third person has come in with the comment that one month is "generally" as long as something should be cite tagged before being removed.
The article is Dosa. The comment relates to nutritional content of the food and is pretty bland, IMO. It is certainly not making claims for it being, for example, a "superfood" or "guaranteed to stop you getting cancer/having a heart attack" or "curing your addiction to adding content about obscure reality shows/hip-hop artists."
I have responded that I do not consider a month or so to be really sufficient. It might be if the article was a current affairs issue or BLP etc, but ... What do you think?
Of course, you do not have to respond. Feel free to enjoy your weekend doing more useful things :) - Sitush ( talk) 10:26, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
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Tell me, does this genius of yours come naturally, or is it by training? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qwertyste123 ( talk • contribs) 08:12, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
An ip on Schaefer Ambulance Service deleted whole sections in small increments, can you please revert those edits? I dont use anti-vandalism software so I can only undo one edit at a time. Thanks! Shakinglord ( talk) 16:42, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
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Hi. Just wanted to let you know that a new proposal has been made in a thread you contributed to at AN/I concerning the possibility of prohibiting a user from initiating actions at AN, AN/I, or WQA. Thanks, – OhioStandard ( talk) 06:58, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
You've been an admin for two months? And this makes you "the very experienced admin"? George Dance ( talk) 13:17, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
My point was that Zebedee made a kind offer of support. Span ( talk) 15:00, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello again B. Speaking as a wikignome I think it makes us proud when one of our guild rises to position of admin! I think that may deserve an additional title such as "Wikignome with Laurel Wreaths" or "Wikignome with Bells On". If I knew how to do anything with photoshop I might play around with trying to create a new userbox, unfortunately, I don't. Ah well, keep up the good work and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 18:57, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
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Sumsum2010· T· C 04:17, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
HEYYY!!! :D I made another account becuase i can't even ask to be unblocked on that one D; Fireguy33 ( talk) 17:31, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for blocking, but just so you know it's a recently confirmed sock of a banned user. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ItsLassieTime. Usually when the sock is confirmed they aren't allowed to appeal the block. Thanks. Truthkeeper88 ( talk) 23:28, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi, would you mind removing the 'reviewer'
usergroup from my account, as it is no longer relevant?
Reaper Eternal (
talk)
13:14, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
Just a quick question, how do you make and use an archive? Do they have to be matinenced or does Miszabot do that? Thanks! Shakinglord ( talk) 13:50, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
There is indeed an entry on Kushwaha but it has been vandalised by cut paste form irrelevent site and hence not useful. My past requests in this regard have not been seen. I had asked that the article be locked. Hence a entry on kushwaha of India is required. ```truthalwaystriumphs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truthalwaystriumphs ( talk • contribs) 11:59, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi, you moved my protection request for the page Chinaman out from the UCSD report, but the issues are related, and various pages (also including Chinaman (term) have been protected. I think its helpful to retain the request within that wider context. Given your help I wasn't going to just revert you on the ANI page, but I think you should understand my concern that the pattern be documented, and not addressed piecemeal. μηδείς ( talk) 15:44, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello Boing! said Zebedee. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on Lerpong Wichaikhammat to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. Thank you. Salvio Let's talk about it! 16:17, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
I noticed there is a dispute to the image on the 2011 Major League Baseball All-Star Game article. A poor image was uploaded to wiki commons with improper copyright tags. Plus the image is inverse. In reponse I put a clearer verson in the page, with the rationale and tags intact. After the page was reverted by an IP, I'm going to need your opionion on this one. – BuickCentury Driver 01:23, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello. I found the maneer you talked to me in my discussion page a little irrupsive and irrespectuous. If you want to talk like that with people, Wikipedia not the appropriated place.
And i'm not a vandal, i bring my culture and respect Wikipedia rules.
Wildkoala ( talk) 11:46, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
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I want to thank you for your repeated input to help with my problem with my watchlist. Nutster ( talk) 12:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC) |
The user is complaining on his talk page that he is still blocked from editing other pages. μηδείς ( talk) 17:30, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
I've got a problem at User_talk:John_KB#Revert of your revert. I am trying to insist that the heights of 2011 Miss Universe contestants are sourced and the other user is saying that the heights are in the individual articles for the contestants. Problem is, those individual articles often do not have cites for the heights and, in any event, I feel that it is WP:CIRCULAR. He did a full rollback the first time, and on his second go effectively did the same thing again.
I'd rather see the darn things right in the summary article we are currently in dispute about, and I have already had to amend two individual bios where they were wrong (which kind of proves my point, I guess!)
I'm not even interested in Miss Universe, but crap sourcing irritates me, and this is not a new contributor as he has 9000+ edits to his name. - Sitush ( talk) 17:38, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing, would you mind having a look at Alice Walker? It's had a lot of IP vandalism in the last week and I think it could use some protection. Thanks Span ( talk) 17:58, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Great. Thanks very much. Span ( talk) 18:42, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello. I just wanted to let you know that I have brought Number of patents by India WIPO (which you declined for CSD A1 last week) to AFD. The entry is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Number of patents by India WIPO if you wish to make any comments. I believe you were perfectly right to decline the speedy (the context was clear), however I still feel the article is unsuitable and have carried through with the process for deletion. Hope you have a lovely evening. France3470 (talk) 23:30, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing. I noticed your comment at Twinkle talk. We shouldn't be needing workarounds, we need tools that work after they have first been tested and debugged. This new Twinkle control panel is full of good ideas, but its now full of new bugs too many to list, and all this comes right after its problems with the new Wiki software upgrade, and the introduction of Firefox 4. It's incredible that to use all Twinkle's tools and features on Mac, I now have to have four browser windows open: Safari in in monobook and vector, and Firefox in monobook and vector. The other problem of course is that the Twinkledevs are notoriously slow to respond to problems - if they respond at all (quite often they don't). It's got so frustrating, along with my jungle broadband that seems to be managed more by obscure spirits than by man, that I'm thinking of retiring from Wkipedia. Rant over ;) -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 02:02, 31 May 2011 (UTC).
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Hi, I should know this by now but where should I take this user, who has received multiple warnings for rmeoval of cited content across numerous articles & over a fair period? - Sitush ( talk) 01:30, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
I for one am always happy to see a truly repentent user unblocked. Yes, by all means feel free to unblock him. Thanks for letting me know. :) -- PMDrive1061 ( talk) 15:16, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I have just deleted a later version of this page as an expired Prod. However, I notice that on 17 May 2011 you deleted an earlier version that had been merged into State. Assuming that content was indeed merged, that deletion breaches our GFDL licence because the history of merged content must be retained. Unless I am missing something, I think that the version that you deleted should be undeleted and converted into a redirect. There are other ways of retaining the history but that is probably the simplest. I should welcome your reaction, please. TerriersFan ( talk) 16:02, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Is using an image I would like to nominate for deletion. As long as it is used here, this will be refused. What I have to do? Commons is not for self-promotion content and I donated to Wikimedia Foundation in faith that my money will be used for educational purposes (That's why our ministry of finance assessed WMF as being charitable). What are the steps to take? Thank you in advice. Sincerely -- Rillke ( talk) 19:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
you're an idiot for deleting the Tribes(band) article.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.109.168.238 ( talk) 14:09, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Ounce i figure out how to format sources here you'll see alot less complaints from me "that genre is wrong! idiots". Well I appreciate your respectfulness, but you seem tothink im slow or something. And calling someone a ahole is not abuse, for example saying to someone "I wish you were never born, go kill yourself" is. Thanks for the block! MajorHawke ( talk) 21:16, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Why does it say talk page stalker?? MajorHawke ( talk) 22:47, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing! IP User 68.37.124.56 continues to add long-winded physical descriptions to characters at Fanboy and Chum Chum against openly explained objection and numerous invitations to discuss why this level of detail should be included. I would like to nominate the user for another edit block for possible edit-warring, and/or to request semi-protection of the page, as there are not too many useful edits coming from IP users. Its sister page List of Fanboy and Chum Chum Episodes recently earned semi-protected status. Thanks! Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 02:20, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
I recently tagged a couple of articles for deletion through various methods. There is a discussion on my talk page left by an admin who is a self described inclusionist. Could you offer some analysis of this? Ryan Vesey ( talk) 04:47, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Guild of Copy Editors May 2011 backlog elimination drive report
Greetings from the
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May 2011 Backlog elimination drive. Thank you for participating!
![]() There were 63 signups for the drive; of these, 45 participated. Although we did not award a bonus for articles from the Requests page this drive, we are not experiencing lengthy delays in getting the articles processed. Many thanks to editors who have been helping out at the Requests page and by copy editing articles from the backlog.
During the month of May we reduced the backlog by approximately 10%, and made remarkable progress on eliminating articles tagged from 2009. There are now only 15 articles left, down from the 415 that were present when the drive started. Since our backlog drives began in May 2010 with 8,323 articles, we have cleared more than 54% of the backlog. A complete list of results and barnstars awarded can be found here. Barnstars will be distributed over the next week. If you enjoyed participating in our event, you may also like to join the Wikification drives, which are held on alternate months to our drives. Their June drive has started.
The six-month term for our first tranche of Guild coordinators will be expiring at the end of June. We will be accepting nominations for the second tranche of coordinators, who will also serve a six-month term. Nominations will open starting on June 5. For complete information, please have a look at the election page. Please feel free to contact any coordinator if you have any questions or need assistance. Your project coordinators are S Masters ( talk), Diannaa ( Talk), Tea with toast ( Talk), Chaosdruid ( talk), and Torchiest ( talk). |
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Hi Boing, if you have a mo then could you cast your eye over Talk:Burndennett Cricket Club. Am I being touchy? I've been called many thing before, but not that! - Sitush ( talk) 12:09, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi! I have tried enabling CSD and PROD logging in the settings control panel, but I get
Not sure what I'm doing wrong... tried manually creating the file and then saving... same results. Hoping you have a few ideas... Best, Rob ROBERTMFROMLI | TK/ CN 17:45, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=432570813
I am sorry that it has come to this. Not entirely surprised, but sorry. - Sitush ( talk) 21:20, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
could you please look into the revision history of this article and please tell me if that isn't sockpuppetry. 24.244.139.116 ( talk) 23:41, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your message. The issue made me think: why are animals (and other human beings) not just ends, but also means? Because respect would surely rule out another being as a means to my ends, which I think you had in mind in deleting the 'not only as a means' ?
I think it is because to acknowledge a being as an end can only be done by a being who is an end in itself. To acknowledge some being as an end is to say that I can be a means to its wellbeing. But to do that is to acknowledge myself as not only an end but also a means. An end because I acknowledge another end. And a means because I acknowledge that there are other ends than myself.
So beings who are ends are also means. But not simply means.
In the context of veganism, this suggests that we can enter into reciprocal relationships. And there are many of these, where animals are treated as ends and also means.
For example, we can interact with guide dogs, pets, and horses, in ways where there is the potential for the animal to be treated as a means (guidance, companionship transport) as well as an end. Examples of being an end would be where the animal benefits, perhaps knowingly, from the relationship and there is mutual contribution to each other's wellbeing.
Hope this makes sense. Or even interesting sense!
TonyClarke ( talk) 23:58, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
I see you got my mail and responded, this note is more so others tracking the issue via your talk page are aware as well.
I have provided basic background by email to the admins involved - Boing and Zero - (to a point they can understand the background but not to the point of breaching privacy policy), as a first step, to see whether they believe the matter can be dealt with on-wiki. If there is consensus it can be addressed on-wiki then this information will be posted at WP:ANI for the community to discuss and to also consider how to avoid it in future. If consensus is that it cannot easily or safely be resolved on-wiki, I will suggest the matter is treated per Wikipedia:Blocking policy#Confidential evidence and referred to Arbcom to decide upon. There's a good chance it can be handled safely on-wiki but I'd like to consult briefly before making such a call, in case I'm wrong or others aren't convinced.
I hope all involved will hold off any posts or escalation until we at least have clarity of consultation whether it can be handled on-wiki. Hopefully as all concerned are active right now, we'll have this within a short while (24 hrs latest). Thanks. FT2 ( Talk | email) 00:13, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
My name is Dylan Holton, and I created a wiki page based on my music experiences as a musician, and my future plans regarding my music. I was using this article as a reference for those abroad who are searching for more information about who I am and what my music entails. Is there a more clear, specific reason why my page was deleted? There was no harm, or spam, or anything false in the whole article. Could you fill me in at all just to verify what I need to fix to make it a successful post? No hard feelings! Just very curios. I put a lot of time into the coding etc, so I really am interested. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.106.82.80 ( talk) 00:56, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Houston, we have a problem. Our story begins with a group AFD long ago and far away. Not really, it was in February.
User:Banana Fingers Nominated a bunch of not too notable foot ball teams for deletion. The result was a resounding "Keep".
Please note the redlinks. I've found 3 articles that were near the close of the AFD truncate by Banana Fingers and recently tagged for speedy deletion. They were moved to new names by Banana Fingers . Someone once said, 1 is an accident, 2 a coincident, 3 enemy action." And so I've found my AGF severely strained here. At any rate, you and AlexF were deleting admins on 2 of these. I checked myself just in time. I suspect that all the redlinks represent articles deleted as CSD's after truncation by Banana Fingers. I'm off to lunch and I'm loosing the ability to type due to fatigue. I was wondering if you could look into these. Thanks Dloh cierekim 15:06, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Nice work on the restores. What's current thinking on a recreated article that was previously deleted under PROD? Cheers, Dloh cierekim 17:54, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Greetings, I appreciate your efforts to calm folks down at Nair after that nuiscance ANI was filed yesterday. I feel that I am one of a few editors working to add reputable, accurate citations to the article Nair, and are largely being countered by those who object to any material, however well-cited which could be read as "negative". The issue of Nair polyandry, a topic widely discussed by academics and full footnoted, was dismissed as "Once again, you Nadar guys are calling Nairs as bastards and Nair women as prostitutes. But what about your own women?... I have just reminded you that whatever you write about Nairs can backfire on you. So stop shouting at me and concentrate on your work, i.e adding degrading stuff to this article."
Since the block was lifted, editors have left edit summaries such as "Call you mother a dog, racist asshole", and Talk comments such as:
I feel that myself and Sitush and others are working very hard to add cites, and have been responding to this hostility with simple "please provide refs", "here's why Ref A works", "here's how Ref B doesn't actually say that", and at the worst of moments have edged on "snippy" but nowhere near the level of emotion and hostility employed against us. I emphasise that some editors who are apprehensive about "negative" content are still behaving professionally (such as Rajkris), are debating sources and providing info, etc. But fundamentally three of us are doing massive work, and a whole passel of other folks are basically hanging around the Talk page abusing us, refusing to actually add useful content or provide reasonable refs, etc.
I'm not asking you to weigh in on technical issues (though if you'd recommend some venue to get neutral parties for POV debates, that might be good, WPINDIA isn't proving helpful yet), but I would appreciate it if you could swing by and remind some folks that the level of emotion and vitriol involved (which I would argue is totally one-sided) is undue. If I or any other editor claiming to be "removing POV" has somehow overstepped, I'd be glad to hear about it, but I think those of us doing the bulk of the work have added "positive" and "negative" material in comparable quantities, and yet a contigent screams at us if any single phrase can be interpreted as even slightly compromising Nair prestige. Thanks for any insight. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 19:10, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
I just wanted to take a minute to thank you very much for supporting me in my recent RfA. Even though it was unsuccessful, I appreciate your trust. With much gratitude, jsfouche ☽☾ Talk 01:59, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Seeing as the confusion on this page is my fault, I've added an explanation of what's going on. Sorry for the trouble. -- Lear's Fool 03:14, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Should the question by Malleus be removed or changed in any way? It is clearly more of a statement than a question. Ryan Vesey ( talk) 03:29, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
See this. I have reverted this addition of content (originally by another user, who may have been unaware of the sitatuion) twice today & dare not do so again. The article which is linked to is wrong, but that is a discussion/project for another time. The talk page clearly shows lengthy discussions about the claims to kshatriya status (a caste ranking to which practically every Indian caste-ist wants to claim if it is their caste, and deny if it is not). All of the claims have been disproven, time and again. I am getting fed up of this small group of disruptive editors. - Sitush ( talk) 14:52, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Just for context, this is pretty much how most major caste articles are. Of probably 800+ caste articles, I'd say easily 100 would involve knock-down-drag-out fights to bring into proper WP compliance (though folks tend to keep removing pov/ce/cu maintenance tags, obscuring the issue). Of the rest, at least 400 would be subject to drive-by IPs reverting to a previours "earlier caste" draft, or swapping in "warrior class" for "labouring class" without even bothering to remove the old footnote. Here's pretty much how cleanup of the 100 high-vis ones tends to go:
Pretty much everything mentioned above has occurred to me (often multiple times) in a few months of doing caste articles. On the bright side, a lot of the smaller working-class castes either aren't on the Internet, or their descendants have changed their last names and dropped their old customs like a live grenade and won't come near an association. Sitush, when we need a break what say we go clean up a few articles on ratcatchers, whisky-distillers, and shrimp fisherman? They seem nice blokes, good anthropology sources, and might actually go a month without a drive-by IP froth.
In any case, thanks Boing! for bringing some outside perspective to this. I'd like to believe our "side" (or so we've been labeled) is working on the side of the angels, so glad that our good intentions are apparent. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 20:57, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
hi Zebedee iam having problems creating a new page on wikipedia, my Page name was BESNIKET. i created this page based on the materials i had from a secure source. iam one of the members of this tifo group and iam sure about the information i publish. for pages like BESNIKET, Peqin Albania, KS Shkumbini Peqin. iam asking you to take the maximum attention to my articles that i publish here on wikipedia.
Many thanks! Ergys Kajo, Peqin Albania — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ergys89 ( talk • contribs) 20:22, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
You will doubtless not be pleased with me! Two of the culprits at the Nair talkpage have taken a pop at reverting legitimate edits on Template:Kshatriya Communities today. The entire issue of whether the Nairs formed part of the kshatriya community has been discussed to death on the Nair talk page, so there is no reason at all why they should be reverting my removal of the caste from this template.
They were involved in the talk page discussions and every one of their numerous provided sources turned out not to support the claim that they were making. Just a heads up. - Sitush ( talk) 21:33, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Your furious defense of the racist propaganda posted by Sitush & Co. makes me wonder whether you are his homosexual wife. So, are you gay? There are many other easier ways to do it. You can protect the article and give exclusive edit rights to the trio. I don't know why you are having such hatred towards us... may be because some of you were illegitimate children produced by Nair fathers.. is it so? Robbie.Smit ( talk) 16:29, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Thank you very much for deleting the IFUTURELIST page earlier. When I tried to move IFuturelist to that correctly formatted page, I was told the page could not be moved there because IFUTURELIST is on a title blacklist. I checked the blacklist and could not find that title. Can you please help me with the page move? – Paine Ellsworth ( CLIMAX ) 22:37, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
I tried to fix the article name of 7005 aluminum alloy to match the names used for the other alloys, but you changed it back. Is there a particular reason aluminum is preferred on this one type of alloy and should not the Aluminium alloy article link correctly (e.g. also to the 7005 alloy article)? Keanu ( talk) 21:18, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Why is it not, other than the links being redirects, no other content was added to the articles. I have already spoken to WhatGuy about making these redirects, User talk:WhatGuy#Redirecting actors to TV shows and he gave me no answer, well he hardly responds on his talk page, anyway. I follow much of his edits and he hardly gives an edit summary for his edits and some of the info that he adds in articles are unsourced. For some reason if an actor does not have a page on Wikipedia, he redirects the link to where he sees the redlink in. These edits are very disruptive and messes with the article count of this site. He's been on Wikipedia for two years now and is making edits like an anon or a newbie. Some thing needs to done about this. I guess I have to take these redirect links to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion, so they will be done with properly. Quasy Boy 21:56, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
You tagged IntelligentUniverse ( talk · contribs) as a sock of Anglo Pyramidologist ( talk · contribs) but IU's talk page has him saying he is Liveintheforests ( talk · contribs). He created Metal objects (Out-of-place artifacts) while blocked as Liveintheforests, which Liveintheforests continued to edit - virtually all edits being copyvio. Not only that, IU claimed he was no longer using Liveintheforests although that clearly wasn't true. Should, at least, the tag be changed? Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 13:03, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Would you please consider deleting your assertion that the editor who created the article must own shares in it? I don't think that's valid speculation at this point. Thanks. -- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:36, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
I've given Karl my sincere and abject apologies. -- Orange Mike | Talk 20:18, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Greetings, I can go through more formal channels if this India theme is becoming a hassle to you, but in the meantime you've been a good NPOV guy who's not involved in the conflicts.
I'm having particular issues with User:Ancient indian historian on a number of articles about western Indian agricultural tribes. Not to get you into the nitty-gritty, but in sweeping brushstrokes the issue is again legendary descent, claimed (though not clearly documented) associations, etc. For metaphor: imagine you have the English Foo clan, who claims descent from King Arthur. Great, we have a couple footnotes stating "Fooians say they're descended from King Arthur". Various authors, including now AIH, like to keep jamming in lengthy passages about King Arthur, in some cases just copy-pasting whole paragraphs from King Arthur without attribution. I try to explain that people can just click the blue-link if they want, and besides that the link between Arthur and the Fooians is pretty insignificant other than that they claim descent (already included and footnoted). We have similar issues with editors wanting to jam Foo full of any prestitigious group with a similar name, so "here's a picture of a castle built by the Foobu dynasty, and some amazing stories from 1400AD". When I come and say "okay, not seeing a real direct connection other than a vaguely similar name, can you add in material showing a clear historical linkage?" I get waved away.
Long/short, articles like Yadav and Ahir are about castes of shepherd and cowherds (nothing against that, important social role), and editors, currently mainly AIH, keep trying to refocus the article to be about legendary ancient kings, groups called "Yadava" (which only indicates that they claim the same descent, not that they have anything to do with Indian shepherds in 1923) that did awesome things in past centuries, etc. Also big into downplaying any issues of what these guys actually do for a living up to recent times (sheep/cattle), and avoiding the fascinating issue of how they formed political associations in the 1920s, starting telling related castes to "rediscover" their legendary King Yadu descent, claim kshatriya/warrior status, etc.
In any case, here's a representative diff [22]. And if you look at his contribs [23] the pattern is pretty clear; the massive copy-pastes from other articles usually described as "comlete relevent article from other article", etc. Thanks for any help in this matter. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 14:32, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, BsZ, for the kind words, support, and encouragement from start to finish. I really do appreciate it. 28bytes ( talk) 15:46, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
For the record, let me say that I think you're doing a really good job. Thanks. Drmies ( talk) 15:36, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Just a thought, you have (rightly) notified involved people. However, that includes people who currently cannot respond due to their blocks. In the interests of fairness, is there a way round this? Could they, for example, be told that they can put a comment on their talk page & it would be copied over to AN/I ? - Sitush ( talk) 20:58, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
This is very surprising!. I thought any one with valid referenced article can edit wikipedia. If you look in my history I have never edited it yet.
I just said , will be free in July so I can collect articles & present it on that time.
I am terribly disappointed to know that you will allow only Mr sitush & 'MV' to edit it. (
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Re: Dietary and Ethical vegans
There are no such things in existence. Vegan means abstaining from all animal products - diet AND otherwise. It's irrevlevant why one is a vegan - whether it's due to ethics or not (unlikely, but possible). If you ONLY abstain from animal products in your diet, you consume a vegan diet, are a strict vegetarian or eat a plant-based diet. You are not, though, a vegan.
This is incredibly misleading and innaccurate to create these false terms and advertise them as meaning something, when they don't. They need to be removed.
Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freethehens ( talk • contribs) 01:10, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing. When you're in Thailand, how do you usually connect to the Internet, and what is your experience when connecting to the WMF server? E.G.: How long do pages take to load, and saves to upload, and how stable is the connection? -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 05:20, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing! said Zebedee, could you take a look at the Angana P. Chatterji article again? It's seen a few vandals (you communicated sternly with one in April, thank you) and I think I'm handling it ok, but it would be nice to have a more experienced eye there and let me know if there are better ways for me to engage with people. I don't want to scare away non-vandal editors. Thank you. Torren ( talk) 19:04, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
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From the creator of the Voices-voix page that was created/deleted on June 17th
What can I do to decrease the chances of the article being deleted before trying again? The coalition has been mentioned in numerous publications, below are some of the organizations that have published information on voics-voix
http://www.alternatives.ca/en/project-campaign/sign-voices-voix-declaration http://www.nupge.ca/content/3349/nupge-joins-voices-voix-new-coalition-fighting-preserve-democratic-institutions-canada http://www.equalityrights.org/cera/?p=1129 http://ontariohumanists.ca/tag/voices-voix http://rabble.ca/toolkit/highlights/federal-election/voices-voix
Thanks for your help
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Thank you so much for the quick response! Do you have anyone to suggest who could "sponsor" the article and write it for me, to avoid COI? I have the draft written up, including those third party sources, which could be used. Raiseyourvoice2011 ( talk) 18:13, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I vaguely recall seeing some mass AfD articles in the past but cannot find them. I have the feeling that the process in slightly different in these situations. Are you aware of any explanatory articles? - Sitush ( talk) 16:13, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
If you could please help me to move the Richard aguirre article to a userification status so that I can develop the article. Mr. Aguirre is a famous San Diegan with both a political and musical back round that is of notoriety. I feel that I can get the article up to speed with all the references it will need. Thank you for your help. Wikimikesd ( talk) 19:46, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi BsZ. If you have a free minute, could you take a look at this? I'm not sure what to do about it... talking has done no good, and I obviously can't do anything administratively since I'm involved, having written some of the articles in question. 28bytes ( talk) 23:46, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I have already mentioned reputation sources name who claims that yadavs are kshatriya on discussion section of yadav page, but after so many days i am still waiting for the response from the editor of yadav page. Neither they are telling me whether the sources and claims are true or false information nor they are editing the page.
sources which claims yadavs are chandravanshi kshatriya are:
Yadu (Sanskrit: यदु) is one of the five Indo-Aryan tribes (panchajana, panchakrishtya or panchamanusha) mentioned in the Rig Veda). The Mahabharata, the Harivamsha and the Puranas mention Yadu as the eldest son of king Yayati and his queen Devayani. yadu is described to be the father of all yadavs and he is a chandravanshi kshatriya. so when father is a kshatriya so his childrens will be same kshatriya but not shudra,this is a common sense.
references:1. Singh, Upinder (2008). A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India: From the Stone Age to the 12th Century. Delhi: Pearson Education. p. 187. ISBN 81-317-1120-0 Parameter error in {{ ISBN}}: checksum. 2.The Father of Yadu - Yayati - Ancient Indian History 3.Horace Hayman Wilson (1835). "India". A manual of universal history and chronology (Originally from Oxford University). p. 26.
In the world famous sanskrit epic of ancient India MAHABHARATA (Epics like Mahabharata and Ramayana are the basis of hindu religion), it is mentioned that Karna who was the son of Surya (a solar deity) and Kunti,Though Kunti had not physically given birth to the baby, she was unwilling to be accused of being an unmarried mother and so with the help of her maid Dhatri, she placed the baby Karna in a basket and set him afloat on a tributary of the holy river Ganges, the Ashwanadi, in the hope that he would be taken in by another family.The child Karna was found by Adhiratha, a charioteer(shudra)of King Dhritarashtra of Hastinapur. When karna grew up, he became more interested in the art of warfare than in merely being a charioteer like his father Adhirata. Karna met Dronacharya, who was an established teacher in the art of warfare. Dronacharya taught the khastriya princes, but refused to take Karna as his student, since Karna was a son of a charioteer(shudra) and Dronacharya only taught Kshatriyas, or warriors. And during that time mostly kings were yadavs and yadavs were permitted to have education in Gurukuls like others khastriya's.So this is a centuries ago proof that yadavs were classified as khastriya's but not as shudra's. And more precisely a SINGLE CASTE CAN"T BE CATEGORIZED INTO TWO VARNA (here khastriya and shudra, either it can be khastriya or shudra but not both) according to POST VEDIC DIVISIONS. so yadavs are khastriya's.
refrences: 1.Hopkins, E. W. The Great Epic of India, New York (1901). 2. http://www.karna.org/body_story_behind_karna.html 3.Oldenberg, H. Das Mahabharata, Göttingen (1922). 4.Pāṇini. Ashtādhyāyī. Book 4. Translated by Chandra Vasu. Benares, 1896. (Sanskrit)(English) 5.Vaidya, R.V. A Study of Mahabharat; A Research, Poona, A.V.G. Prakashan, 1967
The following is a list of the 36 major royal Rajput(Kshatriya) clans as listed by James Tod in 1829.
Ahirs Agnipala Balla Bargujar Bhati Byce Chauhan Chawura Dahima Dahiya Doda Gahlot Gaur Gherwal Gora Hun Jaitwar Jhala Jat Johiya Kachwaha Kirar Mohil Nikumbh Pala Paramara Pratihara Rathore Solanki Lohana Sengar Sikarwar Silar Sisodia Taunk Tomara
here Ahirs, which is a subsect of yadav caste is cleary mentioned in the list at the top. References:
1.Tod, James. Annals of Rajasthan, Vol 1. Page 175 2. Brig. A. Mason, M.C., R.E. (2007). "The Thirty-six Royal Races of Rajput". kipling.org.uk. Retrieved August 2, 2010.
Most of mine sources are vedic puranas, ancient indian epics, vedas or claims made by reputational authors.
After mentioning all this on the discussion section of yadav page, the editors are not giving any respose. They are behaving like a dictator. Is this justice? I guess here a sense of personal enemity to malign the caste of HINDU religion. So thought it would be better to bring this sensitive matter of hindu caste into your notice. Vikraantkaka ( talk) 11:35, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Hate to bug you on the same topic, but Talk:Nair is getting repeatedly hassled by random (or possibly not so random) IPs making disruptive edits, dragging up arguments with no understanding of WP procedure or bothering to read the rest of the page, complaining when they don't get an answer in under five minutes, etc. Is there a certain point when a Talk page is just considered disruptive, and can be closed temporarily to IPs? Again, I do regret that we, and you, are tangled in this junk, but the page appears to be victim to extensive Orkut canvassing, and that aside is a moderately high-traffic (15K-18K month) page that has rested on a POV version for years, and whose NPOV turn is bringing complainants out of the woodwork. Thanks for any insight on dealing with this. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 15:00, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Ha ha! You should have seen the first draft of my comment. :) 28bytes ( talk) 21:57, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks for your help with deleting the MSP Partners page. As you can probably tell, I'm a new wiki user and have a lot to learn. Best regards, Core — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coresim ( talk • contribs) 13:41, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
Mighty fine work there, Boing. Doing a Google search for references and 'accidentally' clicking "Images" brought back lots of teenage memories. Happy days, Drmies ( talk) 23:14, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
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Hello, have you read talk:Yellowstone Lake and talk:Yellowstone National Park ? I hope you will read them before removing that edits. Lkmen ( talk) 19:32, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi, i noticed you're comments in this Afd. When looking at the talkpage of the creator of this article it seems there is a history of a similar pov. His strange POV becomes more clear when looking at this post from 2 months back. This style becomes evident when looking at his other templates and articles and contributions. Pass a Method talk 15:59, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Timeline of 1st century B.C.E. Muslim history ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
The whole point is that if you look at the John the Baptist article on Wikipedia it will say born 5 BC. This article says 15 BC and that is another problem because it is completely wrong and historically inaccurate, and there is absolutely no source for this. Besides this the date conflicts with the date on the Wikipedia article entitled John the Baptist. Also logically if Jesus was born around 4 BC to 6 BC, how could John the Baptist be born in 15 BC when he is only one year apart from Jesus. To learn more about this try reading the Bible or something so that you can understand that all the dates in the article are wrong and historically incorrect. Besides this it conflicts with sourced Wikipedia articles like John the Baptist. Another point is that there is no Timeline in the Quran, therefore any Biblical character mentioned in the Quran would have the same birthdate and deathdate, since no dates are mentioned in the Quran, there is no difference in chronology of Biblical characters such as David, Solomon, John the Baptist, Jesus, etc. This is why I deleted these wrong and unsourced information because it is wrong and misleading and all you have to do to verify what I am telling you is true is look on a Wikipedia article such as John the Baptist and click on its source, and you can see for yourself. 99.125.86.244 ( talk) 08:58, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you seemingly randomly, but I noticed you were actively editing at the moment. Could you do me a quick favor and tell me if the file in the infobox at Tornadoes of 2011 is updated with the graph going out to April 3rd? I uploaded such a version but I can't get it to display the new version through refreshing or purging, so I can't tell if the upload worked or not. Ks0stm If you reply here, please leave me a {{ Talkback}} message on my talk page. 17:12, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
For all your hard work, help and attention to this latest problem. Take care. Dr.K. λogos πraxis 18:57, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your input on Readercon's AfD. I'm finding it impossible to
WP:AGF on this guy any more. (By the way: the hardcore members of
science fiction fandom tend to hate the term "sci fi", as it carries overtones of the kind of crap shown on the
Syfylis Channel and bad comic strip memories of the
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Is it at all possible to revoke Swe41's talk page access? I doubt after 3 failed unblock requests that he will ever be unblocked and well to be honest he is just annoying :P Zoo Pro 17:04, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing. I checked about the origins of the so-called theory proposed by Swe41 because it sounded vaguely familiar. In fact it is not actually a theory but a rehash of the plot of the film Inception. First published in a blog by someone named: Swe, it actually includes a reference to the film Inception, quote: (...easier to understand if you have watched inception). The so-called theory then migrated to Wikihow.com where it is up for deletion. The deletion proposer complains that she cannot find any reference for the theory anywhere. At the article discussion page at Wikihow an IP proposes that there is afterall a reference for the theory, and you guessed it, it is a Wikipedia mirror of the Lucid dream article from Ask.com.. Guess what, the mirror doesn't have any mention of the theory because it was deleted at its origin in Wikipedia. Dr.K. λogos πraxis 21:38, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
By the way he deleted for the second time the section on my talk where he admits he used falsified sources to keep his theory on Wikipedia, even as in the next edit he conditionally apologises. I just noticed this and reverted it again. Dr.K. λogos πraxis 22:35, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
From the wikiHow article discussion page an IP signed as "Chris" 82.9.127.45 said:This is great! praises the theory. The IP 82.9.127.45 is also the same as the sock here. Dr.K. λogos πraxis 23:57, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
From Samir's talkpage at wikiHow.com: Krystle said: Hey there, thanks for sharing an article on "The Erraou Theory". I can't find any documentation of that theory anywhere, though, even on Wikipedia. Where is this theory from? Who invented it? Where did you hear of it? On 20:44, March 29, 2011. Dr.K. λogos πraxis 01:13, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for unblocking me. And I'm done reverting edits. But this time. I'm sorry about edit warring. And I will Never report any other users again. Can you forgive me. Fjp1995 ( talk) 19:36, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks - i wasn't sure about the referencing bits, and just added it as i thought i had to. Do i need to provide a reference to add or edit a post? I understand this: "Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted. Encyclopedic content must be verifiable." but could you tell me what constitutes 'Encyclopedic content'? Can I do it again? thanks, -- SusiBArt ( talk) 11:58, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
What's up with NBN trouble? Or the TV3?-- 180.180.6.115 ( talk) 13:31, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Forget to introduce myself! You can call me fun17092008, i'm from malaysia and I like Thai TV!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.180.6.115 ( talk) 13:32, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Your edit summary "do ref properly" is somewhat aggressive, particularly since I was caught by an edit conflict while trying to fix it. Since you think I'm not adding references properly, I'm happy leave you to it ... Hyperdoctor Phrogghrus ( talk) 17:19, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Your words at the ANI were very comforting. Indeed, it was a good-faith mistake and having you weigh in like that at the end was very nice of you. Thanks. Greg L ( talk) 20:44, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Jeez processes on ANI are inconsistent. I’ve seen them go on for days and days without any admin action. This one was “shoot first—ask why he’s carrying a cash register down the street later”. Greg L ( talk) 20:54, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing, Just letting you know that in my opinion ERALA ELECTION - VOTE FOR CORRUPTION AND CASTE OPPRESSION was eligible under G11 or G10. I saw you rejected A2, but chose not to delete it under G10 or G11. Was there any particular reason for that? Martijn Hoekstra ( talk) 20:26, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing. Despite all the water throwing going on outside my office window, it looks as if I'm the coordinator of this project. Although I started it, I'm an admin already and have nothing personal to gain or loose, but I don't really want to be seen as the leader or pushing my own opinions or ideas. I know you're already very busy on many aspects of WP, but would you consider being one of the permanent coordinators of the project? It would mean moving threads to their respective new sub pages as they occur, and perhaps striking or removing inappropriate or irrelevant comments, and generally keeping the whole thing on track. If we start a very short coordinator list, I would put my name on it. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 02:08, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi Zebedee, I've redone your changes to Transport in Burundi, as you had perhaps inadvertently undone other changes I had made. As you'll see from the edit summary, it should effectively be my old version, plus the railways bit that had been moved to Rail transport in Burundi (which I have copyedited), plus the few other minor changes you made.
I noticed that you were unsure where to leave the Railways section, and I have left it at the end (where I'd put it last time). It had actually started at the top, (ie above Roads), and I'd be very happy if it was moved back there to be in line with guidance at Wikipedia:WikiProject Transport, but I cannot find any. There just seems to be a convention to put Railways first, but to my mind, it doesn't make sense when there aren't any.
The normal structure for articles like this would be to start with History, then the Present situation, and then Future, which would still put any Railways vapourware at the end. You may have seen my rant on the "Rail transport in X" articles at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains#Redirects?, and I think that much the same goes for "Transport in X". (Reply here). Tim PF ( talk) 15:26, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Why does reverting a title that coincides with the content of that discussion back to an untitled discussion provide more clarity then a defalted "no title"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.201.255.165 ( talk) 10:16, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
I editted the title. What "push of a point of view offered in my answer are you referring to? My title edit did not include any expression of an answer or opinion, but it did accurately reflect the discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.201.255.165 ( talk) 11:12, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Landalva ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
I have been having a think about the situation with regard to the three articles Landalva has been editing and that are subject to my merge proposal. I'm not sure if a blocked user can edit anything other than their talk page but if they can edit their own userspace then would it make sense to move all three articles into that space while Landalva works on them?
The constant changing of purpose on Ardash Shree in particular does rather take on the appearance of almost being edit tests. Moving all three would not unduly compromise the WP coverage (indeed, them not being there might at present improve WP's image even if not its coverage). It would enable Landalva to develop them in peace and, subject to review, they could later be moved back into mainspace. The proviso as I see it would be that Landalva must agree not to introduce any further articles in mainspace until these are either binned by him or accepted for mainspace by an appropriate admin; failure to impose this might just lead to further circumvention attempts. - Sitush ( talk) 10:53, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Just substituting the cheeseburger(!) Rcsprinter Gimme a message 16:23, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
It is important that the public understands what cwp is. It is being used by government and was used to clean up Chernobyl Nuclear disaster, If we do not create the awareness of what CWP is than toxic water and contamination will continue to kill and cause cancer. Why don't you block all other chemical related articles, definitions and clean up methods that are posted in Wiki. Simply deleting this important information is unjust and not fair to the public. They need to know that there is an alternative to other chemicals and hope with technology like cwp for situations like what is happening in Japan, CWP was invented for cleanup of nuclear disasters, nobody knows this because people dont understand what it is or even that it exists...Since they don't understand they just ignore it and delete it thinking its spam! We have show that this is real and that this is a currently applied solution not an ADVERTISEMENT!...I think humanity deserves at leas the awareness...Do you not agree? Don't be so quick to judge and shut down important information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justyjuice ( talk • contribs) 20:25, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
How is it strange if its true. Its an actual product no different than chlorine and bubble gum... why would it not be defined in wiki... it is creditable and tested by over 19 institutions globally, this is not a personal concern ...its a fact. you seem to accept defining chlorine in wiki but why not accuse that of being someones concern, why is there a bias against new market technology being applied, what makes you an expert in deciding the credibility of bio-nanotechnology and Molecular organic chemistry and its new market uses? Seems you are telling me that anythig that is not understood is labelled as not creditable and should be deleted.. that is silly...What are your credentials to make this decision, did you do the proper investigation into understanding the true potentiality of this technology and current applications... seems that this is more of your own personal concern because you don't understand what CWP is, perhaps i should clarify in more detail in the article? hence the purpose of posting this article to create an understanding and awareness of this technology...It needs to be defined, its not a personal concern...??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justyjuice ( talk • contribs) 20:45, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Given your opposition to my nomination, is there any advice you can offer me since I do intend to try again in the future. You did say I was a good editor, so therefore I need to pinpoint what exactly you look for in a candidate. Of course your response and whether or not you support its totally up to you. – BuickCentury Driver 17:12, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi B!sZ. For my sins, I've taken Rcsprinter on as a mentee. I'll be keeping an eye on his edits, and hopefully he should be able to learn from his mistakes. I was wondering if you would consider commuting his block to time served, if he'd commit to not making amy more anti-policy edits. If not, I understand, but since he has accepted mentorship, I thought I'd ask. WormTT · ( talk) 13:49, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks everyone. Rcsprinter Gimme a message 14:59, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Hello Boing! said Zebedee, how do I become an administrator?
Yours Faithfully, King Finland — Preceding unsigned comment added by King Finland ( talk • contribs) 18:49, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi King Finland - in case you haven't seen it, I've replied over on your Talk page -- Boing! said Zebedee ( talk) 20:27, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing. Now that we have both participated, I can ask what your take is on this (Q11). It is being used to obtain feedback on this contentious discussion. I have seen other indisputable evidence of systemic bias and tendentious editing, not only, but also during my own survival in the snake pit. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 17:18, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing!, IP user 68.37.124.56 is still being stubborn about submitting unsourced content, specifically by adding character ages again at Fanboy and Chum Chum Special:Contributions/68.37.124.56 Thanks! Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 16:33, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I have sent 2 coppies of my unblock request to arbcom, one in march, and one in early April, but no response, so I am seaking advice, what else is there for me to do, I'm totaly out of ideas and I have lost faith in wikipedia. what can I do? 204.112.104.172 ( talk) 06:24, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, and sorry to bother you. I see that you worked out what Landalva was doing, which is more than I could figure when I saw the edit earlier. Anyway, another query from me if you have the time to assist.
What can be done in a situation where an IP contributor, who has made plenty of edits on related topics, consistently fails to use edit summaries? It is a bit of a nuisance, even though I guess we should rely on summaries anyway as anyone can say anything there, regardless of what their edit actually comprises. I have already issued a standard warning template & also tried to explain in a separate message. The edits are often controversial and sometimes arguably POV-pushing. There has been a lot of weird (to me) behaviour but underneath it all I have the feeling that there may be sometimes be useful info from an informed person ... if only they would actually cite etc.
Talk page is User_talk:113.150.9.211, although it is often blanked. There was an AN/I report filed by me relating to a different issue with the editor yesterday (now resolved as someone else stepped in to revert the material). - Sitush ( talk) 10:25, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Yomiel ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Hi, Zebedee. Since you were involved in blocking Yomiel, can you please look at the contributions here and here, as well as the recent ANI thread? I am really concerned with his inability to maintain civility and no personal attacks, as well as disruptive editing. I already gave him a final warning here on his talk page, but he has swiftly removed it. Is there anyway to help solve this problem? Thanks, Darth Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 02:33, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Never mind. It's already been taken care of. Darth Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 02:42, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Didn't I tell you? I said this would happen. The minute my block was lifted, Sjones' witch hunt continues. This makes the third place he's come after me since my block was lifted. He gave me a final warning unjustly on my talk page, and he won't leave me alone. I'm sick of being treated this way and portrayed as a disruptive editor. Make this guy leave me alone! He gets away with what he's been doing because he acts polite. No one is really paying attention to what he's saying. Yomiel ( talk) 02:44, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Hey my recent article DESIGNDHAKA was deleted, maybe the reason was advertising. But the fact I was not promoting any products from that brand and was just putting info about that brand that people get to know about that. Now, as that has been deleted, I want to re write that article and this time want to make sure anything is not wrong. Is it possible to write again with that same name?-- Iblish ( talk) 18:35, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
As soon as I saw your message on the ip's talk page, that you had reverted at the same moment I did:-)-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 11:22, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
The anon editor you recently blocked for overlinking after I started an Ani about him came back today and basically started right up where he left off. I wasn't sure what to do (another ANI?, AIV still seems wrong somehow) so I thought I'd bring it to your attention. I've cleaned up after some of it and tried dropping another warning on his talk page. My next step... ? Millahnna ( talk) 18:20, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your level-headed attempts to resolve the dispute at WP:ANI#Editing from 125.162.150.88. I seem to have been too terse in my description of the technical problem, so perhaps I can explain to you in a little more detail, as each extra editor that understands properly increases our ability to avoid such problems in future.
In many tables, there are two possible data items to consider: a single year like 2005 or a range like 2005–2006. If we write the range using an en-dash, then all browsers including Safari 4.1 will sort them as we would expect. However, Safari 4.0 does not sort them properly, but it would work if we used a hyphen instead of the en-dash. Jack prefers to ignore the Safari 4.0 problem as it requires no 'fixes' or difficulty for editors to implement and it uses en-dashes per MOS:ENDASH. Gimme prefers to use hyphens or as a written form like "2005 to 2006", neither of which comply with our guidance to use en-dashes and keep table entries compact. It is possible of course to use a sort key like {{sort|2005.5|2005–2006}} – which works with Safari 4.0 – but you then have to put a sort key on every item in the column (otherwise it screws up on Safari 4.0 again!). So there you have it, three possibilities: one is simple and MOS-compliant but fails on Safari 4.0; one is also simple and works on Safari 4.0 but fails to comply with MOS; the third solution works with all browsers and is MOS-compliant but takes effort to implement and maintain.
Personally, I dislike Gimme's option since he has to keep watch over every article where he uses hyphens or words, because users and bots regularly come along and change hyphens in date ranges to en-dashes. He then has to revert them and get involved with trying to explain why he's making an article non-MOS-compliant. No wonder he gets grumpy! I should make clear that I've worked with Jack on a number of initiatives to improve usability and accessibility (like the "plainrowheaders" class) and regard him as a wiki-friend, so you will have to take that into consideration when judging my comments. Nevertheless your efforts to settle these issues are appreciated. Regards, -- RexxS ( talk) 22:06, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
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Well I think Wikiprojects would be a good place. It came in handy when announced at Actor long ago. Also maybe we could announce it at places like tables to get that group too and finally can a notation be put at AN/i? I know that's not what it's for but it is well watched. Just some suggestions from my first thoughts ;), -- CrohnieGal Talk 11:38, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
I've started a draft RFC at User:Boing! said Zebedee/Sandbox/RFC - please make any comments at User talk:Boing! said Zebedee/Sandbox/RFC. Please do not start any discussion in the RFC itself yet - I just want comments about any errors or omissions that should be rectified before it goes live. Actual discussion of the issue itself should wait until it's live. (And please note that any personal attacks or incivility at this stage will be removed) -- Boing! said Zebedee ( talk) 15:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing! I was wondering how a thread that I had commented on at ANI a couple days ago had finished finished up. When I couldn't find it in the archives I dug into the edit history and found that you had made this comment [4]. First I should thank you for the best wishes - I only wish that they were merited. I was trying to make a lame (really lame as it turns out) joke about the Royal Wedding overload that had assaulted my TV for the previous 72 hours. Oh well, if I had just been a tad more thorough and typed "Royal" in my edit it might have raised a chuckle :-) Thanks again for the thought and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 01:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi, just letting you know that I have merged and redirected the weird Ardash samiti article into Khanpur_Saidpur,Ghazipur and requested a CSD of Khanpur village. I see no point in delaying this any further.
When (ohpefully!) the CSD has gone through I will go into the target article and clean it up a bit ... but do not expect me to find references for an obscure Indian village!
Hope this is ok with you, as the only commentator to the very short merge discussion. With User:Landalva as the only other major contributor to the articles, it seemed daft to delay. But feel free to call me daft for doing it. - Sitush ( talk) 12:37, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
I was not trying to continue any kind of edit war. It is very UNCLEAR in Wikipedia how to go about things. I have no idea where to go to do what you have said. I want to do it the correct way but it just is not clear how to get to the different areas to do it the correct way. SO how do I get to the place that you have said. It's taken me this long to get to know how talking to anyone in Wikipedia works. How do I do what you instructed in your last telling off that you just gave to me, which of course I wasn't trying to get. I want this resolved so I'm NOT going to do anything else that stops it being resolved. HELP!!!!!!!!! ( Bertbert1 ( talk) 12:42, 3 May 2011 (UTC))
I have crossed swords with Francis E Williams before but found him to be thoroughly unpleasant and vindictive. Luckily he doesn't edit on Somerset-related articles now so things have quietened down nicely (look at history of Transport in Somerset for some evidence of his past behaviour) and I just ingore him (although he is still on my watchlist) and we do have a couple of articles in common. I must say I'm really surprised you let him get away with that bating incident just now. -- Simple Bob a.k.a. The Spaminator ( Talk) 18:04, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
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Dear Boing! i am about to edit the deleted article LogicalDOC. We produced the new version of the content here in my user space [5]. I think that the article is objective and follows the Wikipedia rules. In addition please take a look to this talk page User_talk:Sprmw7/LogicalDOC, to have an opinion from another Wikipedia administrator.
I ask you if i can proceed recreating the article LogicalDOC with the new contents.
Best Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sprmw7 ( talk • contribs) 09:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Many thanks i will do. Best Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sprmw7 ( talk • contribs) 06:18, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
That one you deleted while I was doing the other one - it was actually true. There was a group of them sentenced for flogging fake Persil and this was one of them. (I've heard of faking in many fields, but never before washing powder!) Peridon ( talk) 17:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Drums fingers
Paces coridor
Catfish Jim & the soapdish 17:28, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
After dozens of blind revets by Mr. Norton, I have to spell it out, and I'm not sure he will accept the obvious that easily. Anyway, it's under debate at ANI, I hope somebody will appear who can read the evidence. I'm determined to get rid of this obstruction. If people can destroy my articles without anybody caring, I will voluntarily leave Wikipedia. Thank you for your interest the matter. Kraxler ( talk) 17:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Re the BLP/N edit conflict - I was using the browser on my phone, and it seems to ignore the edit conflicts some times! Sorry, I wasn't trying to gag you! Regards, The-Pope ( talk) 11:46, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
I just have a low tolerance for users like that. I'll leave it up to another admin with a note on the talk page. Thanks, Boing. :) -- PMDrive1061 ( talk) 16:39, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
One - I'll be away for the weekend without mains power and not much time to edit anyway. Could you keep an eye on my talk page in case people start getting excited about something or other? Two, I've put a couple of comments on User Talk:Ebrahimi-amir and a very brief bit of translation. (No, I can't speak North Azeri...). He's been on az-wiki since December 2010 and seems well-behaved and to have been awarded barnstars. His interest in the Qozlu, Ardabil article comes from his having created it here and at az-wiki (where it's written in South Azeri and I can't do anything with that...). He seems prolific with Category work and to have created quite a few articles. I think there's been a misunderstanding here, and possibly he could be safely unblocked. Knowing what referencing and linking is like on other Wikipedias, it might have been an acceptable link over there. Anyway, that's my 2p worth... Peridon ( talk) 19:21, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
I think you're doing a good job on the site. Keep up the good work. – BuickCentury Driver 22:44, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing. I had already deleted this once, so then he tells me on my tp to restore it for him so he can work on it, so I tell him to get where he got it before, but not to repost it at Wikipedia! -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 13:19, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
While we are taking care of these copyright violations, I have tagged one of the users uploads ( File:File-Soviet Air Force MiG-31.jpg) for speedy deletion as redundant to a currently used fair-use image. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 14:44, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
FYI, I've restored this article which you deleted (and salted) this article as copyvio since there was an OTRS tag on the talk page confirming permission. VernoWhitney ( talk) 16:01, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
And they wonder why they're blocked: [6]. TN X Man 16:44, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Could you please unprotect my talk page now? 24.177.120.138 ( talk) 18:31, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
On ENGLISH WHELPS ( talk · contribs). It is a rare combination of block settings: 24 h, account creation disabled, "offensive anti-English user name". Materialscientist ( talk) 03:29, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
So, how you getting on with the mop? You seem to have a very busy talk page with lots of interactions, so that's good! Just thought I'd drop through and say hi :) Ged UK 07:46, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
[7] 7 days for 1 IP edit four days after last vandalism, 2 days since semi removed, and that edit in an entirely different time period from the others... just seems a little pre-emptive to me? --Club Oranje T 12:13, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
The revision
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ajaib_Singh&oldid=428093774
is nice and simple, clear and to the point, and free of any 'controversy', much to the chagrin of the English-illiterates. So please either remove the entry, or permanently make the link I provided as unchangeable, and everyone will be happy, everyone with half a brain, that is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qwertyste123 ( talk • contribs) 07:33, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Whatever, go learn something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qwertyste123 ( talk • contribs) 08:11, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
You see Boing, the problem with having a title like 'editor' or whatever you go by is, suddenly you think you know something. All you know how to do, judging by your comments, is work with illiterates. BTW, an i-l-l-i-t-e-r-a-t-e is someone who doesn't know how to write, spell, or express themselves in English, but if you don't believe me, you can look it up. It was fun (not)... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qwertyste123 ( talk • contribs) 08:46, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
What's your opinion on User:ActionAmbulance and User:Oneofthescotts? Should they be blocked too, or no? No legal threats coming from them obviously, but one is a user name issue and the other was vandalizing. — Moe ε 17:40, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
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In the last 48 hours, it seems that every single page on my watchlist has had some gross outbreak of utter stupidity, POV, random insults, or just a general failure to move forward the aims of the encyclopedia. Did I mention stupidity? By coincidence or otherwise, in the majority of these incidents, you turned up with calm, measured, thoughtful actions or advice (including blocks, where necessary) and things were generally better. -- Demiurge1000 ( talk) 22:43, 10 May 2011 (UTC) |
Thanks for helping sort out this apparent ongoing issue with the Template:San Jose Radio article. I reverted all of the edits that the editor did which removed the template from the radio station pages (about 23 radio station articles in the San Jose area were effected). I do not understand what the problem with the template is, but I suspect the editor has something against the area. This is the second time he/she has done this. I again thank you very much for your help. Hopefully this is the last time. -- ḾỊḼʘɴίcả • Talk • I DX for fun! 23:21, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing! said Zebedee! I have a problen in Azerbaijan (Iran) article with Xashaiar . I write my opinion in Talk:Azerbaijan (Iran). I don't want to inter edit-warring. Please help me. Best regards.-- Ebrahimi-amir ( talk) 04:23, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
I am disappointed to see, that you deleted the article ELIZAVETA KOPELMAN (user: elizavetakopelman) on the basis,that supposedly it was a direct copy from the internet site www.duecapi.com Well, it was not ! If only you have read it through from the beginning to the end, you would know, that it as in fact NOT a direct copy. I request an apology from you, and the article ELIZAVETA KOPELMAN to be back on the site.
elizavetakopelman Elizaveta Kopelman 11:57, 12 May 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elizavetakopelman ( talk • contribs)
Oh,and you should do your job properly, if you are made an 'administrator', and also learn to exercise courtesy and mind your own business, where it is required (my user name etc is non of your business) Just who on earth do you think you are ? A bit of so called internet power and you think you are entitled to treat people this way ? You should not be performing this kind of administrative work, and wikipedia should dismiss you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elizavetakopelman ( talk • contribs) 14:29, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
You might want to review your block notice - user does not appear to have edited 24 hours. pablo 10:42, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
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Admittedly American actress, film and casting director sounds more important than her reality, as a voice-casting director for video games. Nevertheless, there does appear to be enough coverage of her work (mostly coinciding with her death) to survive AfD. So although I disagree with the edit summary, good call Jebus989 ✰ 16:02, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Sir,
Im a fan of Jamy ong (a youtube singer/coverer).. i was trying to make her a wiki site but it said it was deleted and could only be edited by admins.. please let me make one..please —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hermacio ( talk • contribs) 16:29, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I believe you deleted an article for the football (soccer) player Louis Laing, of Sunderland A.F.C., on 24 March 2011 - quite rightly, I'm sure. Anyway, he made his first-team debut yesterday so now he's genuinely worthy of an article. Was the one you deleted worth resurrecting, or shall I start a new one? Clicriffhard ( talk) 18:38, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
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Please block IP 130.88.92.8 as an admin. Look at his talk page! Thanks. Rcsprinter Gimme a message 15:40, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
can you please help me to manage the images as you said in Talk:Ajaib_Singh? Ajaib Singh is dead and an historically relevant person so maybe i did right uploading this picture in that way: File:Ajaib_Singh.jpg, maybe not... but thinking more on it, is better a portrait like File:Ajaib.jpg or File:Sant ji.jpg for the page.... -- GurDass ( talk) 16:04, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing!, Sorry to bother you. Might I please request your eyes on a recent edit by IP user 68.37.124.56. User has submitted an unsourced air date for an episode that hasn't aired yet. This false info has been submitted before by other IP users. Probably the same kid. Either way, they aren't getting the hint that unsourced content, edit warring and shenanigan submissions are polluting the page. [14] Thanks, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 03:59, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Thanks for the help in my review. I was hoping that you could look at this page. I think it remained fairly notable up until my edits ended. Then a member of the YES! organization added all of the teams as section headings. I am afraid people will look at this and decide it is a non-notable list of teams. Can you remove that as I was once part of the organization and it would look bad for me to remove them. Ryan Vesey ( talk) 15:47, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing, I believe your link/example on naming disambiguation pages supports what I am suggesting. Athletics should be renamed "Athletics (disambiguation)" according to the WP page you reference. Then, the Athletics page can simply redirect to one of the two content-rich pages I'm suggesting. This creates a win-win, because we follow the WP guidelines, and the user can better navigate WP to find the information. If you would, please look again at what I'm suggesting. Sincere thanks. TommyKirchhoff ( talk) 16:56, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
The Magic Roundabout it was called something else but this it was a strange movie. -- Tonkatrucksblue ( talk) 01:18, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Just wanted to thank you for chiming in on the Pfistermeister ANI discussion. I can kind of see where Bugs is coming from, but to my mind saying, "It's okay to flame other editors as long as their edits are actually worthy of flaming," is opening the door to a world of problems. Thanks again! Doniago ( talk) 20:27, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
thanks for reverting to ignorance. you are a perfect example of why wikipedia is not to be taken seriously. go take your gang and celebrate your victory by using a nice steak dinner... you ROCK!!! -- Sfiga ( talk) 15:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
You went through and deleted a lot of my factual contributions to Wikipedia - some of which are in arbitration. I would merely ask that you offer CONSTRUCTIVE criticism to help me make my generaous donations better. A real editor is not just a deleter, but rather a helful coach. Escientist ( talk) 16:55, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
I hope these actions are ok with you, [15] [16] seemed the best course to take, but let me know if you have any issues with either. Dreadstar ☥ 02:42, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
I am very sorry for accusing you of administrative abuse. I also mean no ill will to you. I hope we can be on friendlier terms from now on. Shakinglord ( talk) 04:22, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
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How do. I tagged a statement as needing a citation in March and someone removed it today. It is not what I would consider to be a massively controversial statement, although it is indubitably in need of a cite. I have opened a discussion on the article talk page & a third person has come in with the comment that one month is "generally" as long as something should be cite tagged before being removed.
The article is Dosa. The comment relates to nutritional content of the food and is pretty bland, IMO. It is certainly not making claims for it being, for example, a "superfood" or "guaranteed to stop you getting cancer/having a heart attack" or "curing your addiction to adding content about obscure reality shows/hip-hop artists."
I have responded that I do not consider a month or so to be really sufficient. It might be if the article was a current affairs issue or BLP etc, but ... What do you think?
Of course, you do not have to respond. Feel free to enjoy your weekend doing more useful things :) - Sitush ( talk) 10:26, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
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An ip on Schaefer Ambulance Service deleted whole sections in small increments, can you please revert those edits? I dont use anti-vandalism software so I can only undo one edit at a time. Thanks! Shakinglord ( talk) 16:42, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
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Hi. Just wanted to let you know that a new proposal has been made in a thread you contributed to at AN/I concerning the possibility of prohibiting a user from initiating actions at AN, AN/I, or WQA. Thanks, – OhioStandard ( talk) 06:58, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
You've been an admin for two months? And this makes you "the very experienced admin"? George Dance ( talk) 13:17, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
My point was that Zebedee made a kind offer of support. Span ( talk) 15:00, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello again B. Speaking as a wikignome I think it makes us proud when one of our guild rises to position of admin! I think that may deserve an additional title such as "Wikignome with Laurel Wreaths" or "Wikignome with Bells On". If I knew how to do anything with photoshop I might play around with trying to create a new userbox, unfortunately, I don't. Ah well, keep up the good work and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 18:57, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
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Sumsum2010· T· C 04:17, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
HEYYY!!! :D I made another account becuase i can't even ask to be unblocked on that one D; Fireguy33 ( talk) 17:31, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for blocking, but just so you know it's a recently confirmed sock of a banned user. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ItsLassieTime. Usually when the sock is confirmed they aren't allowed to appeal the block. Thanks. Truthkeeper88 ( talk) 23:28, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi, would you mind removing the 'reviewer'
usergroup from my account, as it is no longer relevant?
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Just a quick question, how do you make and use an archive? Do they have to be matinenced or does Miszabot do that? Thanks! Shakinglord ( talk) 13:50, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
There is indeed an entry on Kushwaha but it has been vandalised by cut paste form irrelevent site and hence not useful. My past requests in this regard have not been seen. I had asked that the article be locked. Hence a entry on kushwaha of India is required. ```truthalwaystriumphs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truthalwaystriumphs ( talk • contribs) 11:59, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi, you moved my protection request for the page Chinaman out from the UCSD report, but the issues are related, and various pages (also including Chinaman (term) have been protected. I think its helpful to retain the request within that wider context. Given your help I wasn't going to just revert you on the ANI page, but I think you should understand my concern that the pattern be documented, and not addressed piecemeal. μηδείς ( talk) 15:44, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello Boing! said Zebedee. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on Lerpong Wichaikhammat to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. Thank you. Salvio Let's talk about it! 16:17, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
I noticed there is a dispute to the image on the 2011 Major League Baseball All-Star Game article. A poor image was uploaded to wiki commons with improper copyright tags. Plus the image is inverse. In reponse I put a clearer verson in the page, with the rationale and tags intact. After the page was reverted by an IP, I'm going to need your opionion on this one. – BuickCentury Driver 01:23, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello. I found the maneer you talked to me in my discussion page a little irrupsive and irrespectuous. If you want to talk like that with people, Wikipedia not the appropriated place.
And i'm not a vandal, i bring my culture and respect Wikipedia rules.
Wildkoala ( talk) 11:46, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
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I want to thank you for your repeated input to help with my problem with my watchlist. Nutster ( talk) 12:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC) |
The user is complaining on his talk page that he is still blocked from editing other pages. μηδείς ( talk) 17:30, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
I've got a problem at User_talk:John_KB#Revert of your revert. I am trying to insist that the heights of 2011 Miss Universe contestants are sourced and the other user is saying that the heights are in the individual articles for the contestants. Problem is, those individual articles often do not have cites for the heights and, in any event, I feel that it is WP:CIRCULAR. He did a full rollback the first time, and on his second go effectively did the same thing again.
I'd rather see the darn things right in the summary article we are currently in dispute about, and I have already had to amend two individual bios where they were wrong (which kind of proves my point, I guess!)
I'm not even interested in Miss Universe, but crap sourcing irritates me, and this is not a new contributor as he has 9000+ edits to his name. - Sitush ( talk) 17:38, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing, would you mind having a look at Alice Walker? It's had a lot of IP vandalism in the last week and I think it could use some protection. Thanks Span ( talk) 17:58, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Great. Thanks very much. Span ( talk) 18:42, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello. I just wanted to let you know that I have brought Number of patents by India WIPO (which you declined for CSD A1 last week) to AFD. The entry is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Number of patents by India WIPO if you wish to make any comments. I believe you were perfectly right to decline the speedy (the context was clear), however I still feel the article is unsuitable and have carried through with the process for deletion. Hope you have a lovely evening. France3470 (talk) 23:30, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing. I noticed your comment at Twinkle talk. We shouldn't be needing workarounds, we need tools that work after they have first been tested and debugged. This new Twinkle control panel is full of good ideas, but its now full of new bugs too many to list, and all this comes right after its problems with the new Wiki software upgrade, and the introduction of Firefox 4. It's incredible that to use all Twinkle's tools and features on Mac, I now have to have four browser windows open: Safari in in monobook and vector, and Firefox in monobook and vector. The other problem of course is that the Twinkledevs are notoriously slow to respond to problems - if they respond at all (quite often they don't). It's got so frustrating, along with my jungle broadband that seems to be managed more by obscure spirits than by man, that I'm thinking of retiring from Wkipedia. Rant over ;) -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 02:02, 31 May 2011 (UTC).
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Hi, I should know this by now but where should I take this user, who has received multiple warnings for rmeoval of cited content across numerous articles & over a fair period? - Sitush ( talk) 01:30, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
I for one am always happy to see a truly repentent user unblocked. Yes, by all means feel free to unblock him. Thanks for letting me know. :) -- PMDrive1061 ( talk) 15:16, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I have just deleted a later version of this page as an expired Prod. However, I notice that on 17 May 2011 you deleted an earlier version that had been merged into State. Assuming that content was indeed merged, that deletion breaches our GFDL licence because the history of merged content must be retained. Unless I am missing something, I think that the version that you deleted should be undeleted and converted into a redirect. There are other ways of retaining the history but that is probably the simplest. I should welcome your reaction, please. TerriersFan ( talk) 16:02, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Is using an image I would like to nominate for deletion. As long as it is used here, this will be refused. What I have to do? Commons is not for self-promotion content and I donated to Wikimedia Foundation in faith that my money will be used for educational purposes (That's why our ministry of finance assessed WMF as being charitable). What are the steps to take? Thank you in advice. Sincerely -- Rillke ( talk) 19:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
you're an idiot for deleting the Tribes(band) article.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.109.168.238 ( talk) 14:09, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Ounce i figure out how to format sources here you'll see alot less complaints from me "that genre is wrong! idiots". Well I appreciate your respectfulness, but you seem tothink im slow or something. And calling someone a ahole is not abuse, for example saying to someone "I wish you were never born, go kill yourself" is. Thanks for the block! MajorHawke ( talk) 21:16, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Why does it say talk page stalker?? MajorHawke ( talk) 22:47, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing! IP User 68.37.124.56 continues to add long-winded physical descriptions to characters at Fanboy and Chum Chum against openly explained objection and numerous invitations to discuss why this level of detail should be included. I would like to nominate the user for another edit block for possible edit-warring, and/or to request semi-protection of the page, as there are not too many useful edits coming from IP users. Its sister page List of Fanboy and Chum Chum Episodes recently earned semi-protected status. Thanks! Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 02:20, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
I recently tagged a couple of articles for deletion through various methods. There is a discussion on my talk page left by an admin who is a self described inclusionist. Could you offer some analysis of this? Ryan Vesey ( talk) 04:47, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Boing, if you have a mo then could you cast your eye over Talk:Burndennett Cricket Club. Am I being touchy? I've been called many thing before, but not that! - Sitush ( talk) 12:09, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi! I have tried enabling CSD and PROD logging in the settings control panel, but I get
Not sure what I'm doing wrong... tried manually creating the file and then saving... same results. Hoping you have a few ideas... Best, Rob ROBERTMFROMLI | TK/ CN 17:45, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=432570813
I am sorry that it has come to this. Not entirely surprised, but sorry. - Sitush ( talk) 21:20, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
could you please look into the revision history of this article and please tell me if that isn't sockpuppetry. 24.244.139.116 ( talk) 23:41, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your message. The issue made me think: why are animals (and other human beings) not just ends, but also means? Because respect would surely rule out another being as a means to my ends, which I think you had in mind in deleting the 'not only as a means' ?
I think it is because to acknowledge a being as an end can only be done by a being who is an end in itself. To acknowledge some being as an end is to say that I can be a means to its wellbeing. But to do that is to acknowledge myself as not only an end but also a means. An end because I acknowledge another end. And a means because I acknowledge that there are other ends than myself.
So beings who are ends are also means. But not simply means.
In the context of veganism, this suggests that we can enter into reciprocal relationships. And there are many of these, where animals are treated as ends and also means.
For example, we can interact with guide dogs, pets, and horses, in ways where there is the potential for the animal to be treated as a means (guidance, companionship transport) as well as an end. Examples of being an end would be where the animal benefits, perhaps knowingly, from the relationship and there is mutual contribution to each other's wellbeing.
Hope this makes sense. Or even interesting sense!
TonyClarke ( talk) 23:58, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
I see you got my mail and responded, this note is more so others tracking the issue via your talk page are aware as well.
I have provided basic background by email to the admins involved - Boing and Zero - (to a point they can understand the background but not to the point of breaching privacy policy), as a first step, to see whether they believe the matter can be dealt with on-wiki. If there is consensus it can be addressed on-wiki then this information will be posted at WP:ANI for the community to discuss and to also consider how to avoid it in future. If consensus is that it cannot easily or safely be resolved on-wiki, I will suggest the matter is treated per Wikipedia:Blocking policy#Confidential evidence and referred to Arbcom to decide upon. There's a good chance it can be handled safely on-wiki but I'd like to consult briefly before making such a call, in case I'm wrong or others aren't convinced.
I hope all involved will hold off any posts or escalation until we at least have clarity of consultation whether it can be handled on-wiki. Hopefully as all concerned are active right now, we'll have this within a short while (24 hrs latest). Thanks. FT2 ( Talk | email) 00:13, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
My name is Dylan Holton, and I created a wiki page based on my music experiences as a musician, and my future plans regarding my music. I was using this article as a reference for those abroad who are searching for more information about who I am and what my music entails. Is there a more clear, specific reason why my page was deleted? There was no harm, or spam, or anything false in the whole article. Could you fill me in at all just to verify what I need to fix to make it a successful post? No hard feelings! Just very curios. I put a lot of time into the coding etc, so I really am interested. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.106.82.80 ( talk) 00:56, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Houston, we have a problem. Our story begins with a group AFD long ago and far away. Not really, it was in February.
User:Banana Fingers Nominated a bunch of not too notable foot ball teams for deletion. The result was a resounding "Keep".
Please note the redlinks. I've found 3 articles that were near the close of the AFD truncate by Banana Fingers and recently tagged for speedy deletion. They were moved to new names by Banana Fingers . Someone once said, 1 is an accident, 2 a coincident, 3 enemy action." And so I've found my AGF severely strained here. At any rate, you and AlexF were deleting admins on 2 of these. I checked myself just in time. I suspect that all the redlinks represent articles deleted as CSD's after truncation by Banana Fingers. I'm off to lunch and I'm loosing the ability to type due to fatigue. I was wondering if you could look into these. Thanks Dloh cierekim 15:06, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Nice work on the restores. What's current thinking on a recreated article that was previously deleted under PROD? Cheers, Dloh cierekim 17:54, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Greetings, I appreciate your efforts to calm folks down at Nair after that nuiscance ANI was filed yesterday. I feel that I am one of a few editors working to add reputable, accurate citations to the article Nair, and are largely being countered by those who object to any material, however well-cited which could be read as "negative". The issue of Nair polyandry, a topic widely discussed by academics and full footnoted, was dismissed as "Once again, you Nadar guys are calling Nairs as bastards and Nair women as prostitutes. But what about your own women?... I have just reminded you that whatever you write about Nairs can backfire on you. So stop shouting at me and concentrate on your work, i.e adding degrading stuff to this article."
Since the block was lifted, editors have left edit summaries such as "Call you mother a dog, racist asshole", and Talk comments such as:
I feel that myself and Sitush and others are working very hard to add cites, and have been responding to this hostility with simple "please provide refs", "here's why Ref A works", "here's how Ref B doesn't actually say that", and at the worst of moments have edged on "snippy" but nowhere near the level of emotion and hostility employed against us. I emphasise that some editors who are apprehensive about "negative" content are still behaving professionally (such as Rajkris), are debating sources and providing info, etc. But fundamentally three of us are doing massive work, and a whole passel of other folks are basically hanging around the Talk page abusing us, refusing to actually add useful content or provide reasonable refs, etc.
I'm not asking you to weigh in on technical issues (though if you'd recommend some venue to get neutral parties for POV debates, that might be good, WPINDIA isn't proving helpful yet), but I would appreciate it if you could swing by and remind some folks that the level of emotion and vitriol involved (which I would argue is totally one-sided) is undue. If I or any other editor claiming to be "removing POV" has somehow overstepped, I'd be glad to hear about it, but I think those of us doing the bulk of the work have added "positive" and "negative" material in comparable quantities, and yet a contigent screams at us if any single phrase can be interpreted as even slightly compromising Nair prestige. Thanks for any insight. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 19:10, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
I just wanted to take a minute to thank you very much for supporting me in my recent RfA. Even though it was unsuccessful, I appreciate your trust. With much gratitude, jsfouche ☽☾ Talk 01:59, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Seeing as the confusion on this page is my fault, I've added an explanation of what's going on. Sorry for the trouble. -- Lear's Fool 03:14, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Should the question by Malleus be removed or changed in any way? It is clearly more of a statement than a question. Ryan Vesey ( talk) 03:29, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
See this. I have reverted this addition of content (originally by another user, who may have been unaware of the sitatuion) twice today & dare not do so again. The article which is linked to is wrong, but that is a discussion/project for another time. The talk page clearly shows lengthy discussions about the claims to kshatriya status (a caste ranking to which practically every Indian caste-ist wants to claim if it is their caste, and deny if it is not). All of the claims have been disproven, time and again. I am getting fed up of this small group of disruptive editors. - Sitush ( talk) 14:52, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Just for context, this is pretty much how most major caste articles are. Of probably 800+ caste articles, I'd say easily 100 would involve knock-down-drag-out fights to bring into proper WP compliance (though folks tend to keep removing pov/ce/cu maintenance tags, obscuring the issue). Of the rest, at least 400 would be subject to drive-by IPs reverting to a previours "earlier caste" draft, or swapping in "warrior class" for "labouring class" without even bothering to remove the old footnote. Here's pretty much how cleanup of the 100 high-vis ones tends to go:
Pretty much everything mentioned above has occurred to me (often multiple times) in a few months of doing caste articles. On the bright side, a lot of the smaller working-class castes either aren't on the Internet, or their descendants have changed their last names and dropped their old customs like a live grenade and won't come near an association. Sitush, when we need a break what say we go clean up a few articles on ratcatchers, whisky-distillers, and shrimp fisherman? They seem nice blokes, good anthropology sources, and might actually go a month without a drive-by IP froth.
In any case, thanks Boing! for bringing some outside perspective to this. I'd like to believe our "side" (or so we've been labeled) is working on the side of the angels, so glad that our good intentions are apparent. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 20:57, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
hi Zebedee iam having problems creating a new page on wikipedia, my Page name was BESNIKET. i created this page based on the materials i had from a secure source. iam one of the members of this tifo group and iam sure about the information i publish. for pages like BESNIKET, Peqin Albania, KS Shkumbini Peqin. iam asking you to take the maximum attention to my articles that i publish here on wikipedia.
Many thanks! Ergys Kajo, Peqin Albania — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ergys89 ( talk • contribs) 20:22, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
You will doubtless not be pleased with me! Two of the culprits at the Nair talkpage have taken a pop at reverting legitimate edits on Template:Kshatriya Communities today. The entire issue of whether the Nairs formed part of the kshatriya community has been discussed to death on the Nair talk page, so there is no reason at all why they should be reverting my removal of the caste from this template.
They were involved in the talk page discussions and every one of their numerous provided sources turned out not to support the claim that they were making. Just a heads up. - Sitush ( talk) 21:33, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Your furious defense of the racist propaganda posted by Sitush & Co. makes me wonder whether you are his homosexual wife. So, are you gay? There are many other easier ways to do it. You can protect the article and give exclusive edit rights to the trio. I don't know why you are having such hatred towards us... may be because some of you were illegitimate children produced by Nair fathers.. is it so? Robbie.Smit ( talk) 16:29, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Thank you very much for deleting the IFUTURELIST page earlier. When I tried to move IFuturelist to that correctly formatted page, I was told the page could not be moved there because IFUTURELIST is on a title blacklist. I checked the blacklist and could not find that title. Can you please help me with the page move? – Paine Ellsworth ( CLIMAX ) 22:37, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
I tried to fix the article name of 7005 aluminum alloy to match the names used for the other alloys, but you changed it back. Is there a particular reason aluminum is preferred on this one type of alloy and should not the Aluminium alloy article link correctly (e.g. also to the 7005 alloy article)? Keanu ( talk) 21:18, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Why is it not, other than the links being redirects, no other content was added to the articles. I have already spoken to WhatGuy about making these redirects, User talk:WhatGuy#Redirecting actors to TV shows and he gave me no answer, well he hardly responds on his talk page, anyway. I follow much of his edits and he hardly gives an edit summary for his edits and some of the info that he adds in articles are unsourced. For some reason if an actor does not have a page on Wikipedia, he redirects the link to where he sees the redlink in. These edits are very disruptive and messes with the article count of this site. He's been on Wikipedia for two years now and is making edits like an anon or a newbie. Some thing needs to done about this. I guess I have to take these redirect links to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion, so they will be done with properly. Quasy Boy 21:56, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
You tagged IntelligentUniverse ( talk · contribs) as a sock of Anglo Pyramidologist ( talk · contribs) but IU's talk page has him saying he is Liveintheforests ( talk · contribs). He created Metal objects (Out-of-place artifacts) while blocked as Liveintheforests, which Liveintheforests continued to edit - virtually all edits being copyvio. Not only that, IU claimed he was no longer using Liveintheforests although that clearly wasn't true. Should, at least, the tag be changed? Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 13:03, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Would you please consider deleting your assertion that the editor who created the article must own shares in it? I don't think that's valid speculation at this point. Thanks. -- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:36, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
I've given Karl my sincere and abject apologies. -- Orange Mike | Talk 20:18, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Greetings, I can go through more formal channels if this India theme is becoming a hassle to you, but in the meantime you've been a good NPOV guy who's not involved in the conflicts.
I'm having particular issues with User:Ancient indian historian on a number of articles about western Indian agricultural tribes. Not to get you into the nitty-gritty, but in sweeping brushstrokes the issue is again legendary descent, claimed (though not clearly documented) associations, etc. For metaphor: imagine you have the English Foo clan, who claims descent from King Arthur. Great, we have a couple footnotes stating "Fooians say they're descended from King Arthur". Various authors, including now AIH, like to keep jamming in lengthy passages about King Arthur, in some cases just copy-pasting whole paragraphs from King Arthur without attribution. I try to explain that people can just click the blue-link if they want, and besides that the link between Arthur and the Fooians is pretty insignificant other than that they claim descent (already included and footnoted). We have similar issues with editors wanting to jam Foo full of any prestitigious group with a similar name, so "here's a picture of a castle built by the Foobu dynasty, and some amazing stories from 1400AD". When I come and say "okay, not seeing a real direct connection other than a vaguely similar name, can you add in material showing a clear historical linkage?" I get waved away.
Long/short, articles like Yadav and Ahir are about castes of shepherd and cowherds (nothing against that, important social role), and editors, currently mainly AIH, keep trying to refocus the article to be about legendary ancient kings, groups called "Yadava" (which only indicates that they claim the same descent, not that they have anything to do with Indian shepherds in 1923) that did awesome things in past centuries, etc. Also big into downplaying any issues of what these guys actually do for a living up to recent times (sheep/cattle), and avoiding the fascinating issue of how they formed political associations in the 1920s, starting telling related castes to "rediscover" their legendary King Yadu descent, claim kshatriya/warrior status, etc.
In any case, here's a representative diff [22]. And if you look at his contribs [23] the pattern is pretty clear; the massive copy-pastes from other articles usually described as "comlete relevent article from other article", etc. Thanks for any help in this matter. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 14:32, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, BsZ, for the kind words, support, and encouragement from start to finish. I really do appreciate it. 28bytes ( talk) 15:46, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
For the record, let me say that I think you're doing a really good job. Thanks. Drmies ( talk) 15:36, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Just a thought, you have (rightly) notified involved people. However, that includes people who currently cannot respond due to their blocks. In the interests of fairness, is there a way round this? Could they, for example, be told that they can put a comment on their talk page & it would be copied over to AN/I ? - Sitush ( talk) 20:58, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
This is very surprising!. I thought any one with valid referenced article can edit wikipedia. If you look in my history I have never edited it yet.
I just said , will be free in July so I can collect articles & present it on that time.
I am terribly disappointed to know that you will allow only Mr sitush & 'MV' to edit it. (
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Re: Dietary and Ethical vegans
There are no such things in existence. Vegan means abstaining from all animal products - diet AND otherwise. It's irrevlevant why one is a vegan - whether it's due to ethics or not (unlikely, but possible). If you ONLY abstain from animal products in your diet, you consume a vegan diet, are a strict vegetarian or eat a plant-based diet. You are not, though, a vegan.
This is incredibly misleading and innaccurate to create these false terms and advertise them as meaning something, when they don't. They need to be removed.
Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freethehens ( talk • contribs) 01:10, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing. When you're in Thailand, how do you usually connect to the Internet, and what is your experience when connecting to the WMF server? E.G.: How long do pages take to load, and saves to upload, and how stable is the connection? -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 05:20, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Boing! said Zebedee, could you take a look at the Angana P. Chatterji article again? It's seen a few vandals (you communicated sternly with one in April, thank you) and I think I'm handling it ok, but it would be nice to have a more experienced eye there and let me know if there are better ways for me to engage with people. I don't want to scare away non-vandal editors. Thank you. Torren ( talk) 19:04, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
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From the creator of the Voices-voix page that was created/deleted on June 17th
What can I do to decrease the chances of the article being deleted before trying again? The coalition has been mentioned in numerous publications, below are some of the organizations that have published information on voics-voix
http://www.alternatives.ca/en/project-campaign/sign-voices-voix-declaration http://www.nupge.ca/content/3349/nupge-joins-voices-voix-new-coalition-fighting-preserve-democratic-institutions-canada http://www.equalityrights.org/cera/?p=1129 http://ontariohumanists.ca/tag/voices-voix http://rabble.ca/toolkit/highlights/federal-election/voices-voix
Thanks for your help
Raiseyourvoice2011 ( talk) 16:23, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the quick response! Do you have anyone to suggest who could "sponsor" the article and write it for me, to avoid COI? I have the draft written up, including those third party sources, which could be used. Raiseyourvoice2011 ( talk) 18:13, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I vaguely recall seeing some mass AfD articles in the past but cannot find them. I have the feeling that the process in slightly different in these situations. Are you aware of any explanatory articles? - Sitush ( talk) 16:13, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
If you could please help me to move the Richard aguirre article to a userification status so that I can develop the article. Mr. Aguirre is a famous San Diegan with both a political and musical back round that is of notoriety. I feel that I can get the article up to speed with all the references it will need. Thank you for your help. Wikimikesd ( talk) 19:46, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi BsZ. If you have a free minute, could you take a look at this? I'm not sure what to do about it... talking has done no good, and I obviously can't do anything administratively since I'm involved, having written some of the articles in question. 28bytes ( talk) 23:46, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I have already mentioned reputation sources name who claims that yadavs are kshatriya on discussion section of yadav page, but after so many days i am still waiting for the response from the editor of yadav page. Neither they are telling me whether the sources and claims are true or false information nor they are editing the page.
sources which claims yadavs are chandravanshi kshatriya are:
Yadu (Sanskrit: यदु) is one of the five Indo-Aryan tribes (panchajana, panchakrishtya or panchamanusha) mentioned in the Rig Veda). The Mahabharata, the Harivamsha and the Puranas mention Yadu as the eldest son of king Yayati and his queen Devayani. yadu is described to be the father of all yadavs and he is a chandravanshi kshatriya. so when father is a kshatriya so his childrens will be same kshatriya but not shudra,this is a common sense.
references:1. Singh, Upinder (2008). A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India: From the Stone Age to the 12th Century. Delhi: Pearson Education. p. 187. ISBN 81-317-1120-0 Parameter error in {{ ISBN}}: checksum. 2.The Father of Yadu - Yayati - Ancient Indian History 3.Horace Hayman Wilson (1835). "India". A manual of universal history and chronology (Originally from Oxford University). p. 26.
In the world famous sanskrit epic of ancient India MAHABHARATA (Epics like Mahabharata and Ramayana are the basis of hindu religion), it is mentioned that Karna who was the son of Surya (a solar deity) and Kunti,Though Kunti had not physically given birth to the baby, she was unwilling to be accused of being an unmarried mother and so with the help of her maid Dhatri, she placed the baby Karna in a basket and set him afloat on a tributary of the holy river Ganges, the Ashwanadi, in the hope that he would be taken in by another family.The child Karna was found by Adhiratha, a charioteer(shudra)of King Dhritarashtra of Hastinapur. When karna grew up, he became more interested in the art of warfare than in merely being a charioteer like his father Adhirata. Karna met Dronacharya, who was an established teacher in the art of warfare. Dronacharya taught the khastriya princes, but refused to take Karna as his student, since Karna was a son of a charioteer(shudra) and Dronacharya only taught Kshatriyas, or warriors. And during that time mostly kings were yadavs and yadavs were permitted to have education in Gurukuls like others khastriya's.So this is a centuries ago proof that yadavs were classified as khastriya's but not as shudra's. And more precisely a SINGLE CASTE CAN"T BE CATEGORIZED INTO TWO VARNA (here khastriya and shudra, either it can be khastriya or shudra but not both) according to POST VEDIC DIVISIONS. so yadavs are khastriya's.
refrences: 1.Hopkins, E. W. The Great Epic of India, New York (1901). 2. http://www.karna.org/body_story_behind_karna.html 3.Oldenberg, H. Das Mahabharata, Göttingen (1922). 4.Pāṇini. Ashtādhyāyī. Book 4. Translated by Chandra Vasu. Benares, 1896. (Sanskrit)(English) 5.Vaidya, R.V. A Study of Mahabharat; A Research, Poona, A.V.G. Prakashan, 1967
The following is a list of the 36 major royal Rajput(Kshatriya) clans as listed by James Tod in 1829.
Ahirs Agnipala Balla Bargujar Bhati Byce Chauhan Chawura Dahima Dahiya Doda Gahlot Gaur Gherwal Gora Hun Jaitwar Jhala Jat Johiya Kachwaha Kirar Mohil Nikumbh Pala Paramara Pratihara Rathore Solanki Lohana Sengar Sikarwar Silar Sisodia Taunk Tomara
here Ahirs, which is a subsect of yadav caste is cleary mentioned in the list at the top. References:
1.Tod, James. Annals of Rajasthan, Vol 1. Page 175 2. Brig. A. Mason, M.C., R.E. (2007). "The Thirty-six Royal Races of Rajput". kipling.org.uk. Retrieved August 2, 2010.
Most of mine sources are vedic puranas, ancient indian epics, vedas or claims made by reputational authors.
After mentioning all this on the discussion section of yadav page, the editors are not giving any respose. They are behaving like a dictator. Is this justice? I guess here a sense of personal enemity to malign the caste of HINDU religion. So thought it would be better to bring this sensitive matter of hindu caste into your notice. Vikraantkaka ( talk) 11:35, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Hate to bug you on the same topic, but Talk:Nair is getting repeatedly hassled by random (or possibly not so random) IPs making disruptive edits, dragging up arguments with no understanding of WP procedure or bothering to read the rest of the page, complaining when they don't get an answer in under five minutes, etc. Is there a certain point when a Talk page is just considered disruptive, and can be closed temporarily to IPs? Again, I do regret that we, and you, are tangled in this junk, but the page appears to be victim to extensive Orkut canvassing, and that aside is a moderately high-traffic (15K-18K month) page that has rested on a POV version for years, and whose NPOV turn is bringing complainants out of the woodwork. Thanks for any insight on dealing with this. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 15:00, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Ha ha! You should have seen the first draft of my comment. :) 28bytes ( talk) 21:57, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
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