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From WP:CFD: It is probably also a good idea to move Template:Information appliance to Template:Infobox IA. Jacoplane 00:05, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
This is really just an uglier duplicate of {{ infobox computer}}, so I'm going to work on merging them. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 23:23, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Why is there no price field, like in Template:Infobox_Motorcycle? or at least an initial price. -- Hm2k ( talk) 11:06, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
{{
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Please add the hCalendar microformat, thus:
bodyclass = vevent
titleclass = summary
class1 = organiser
the relevant date can then be included by using {{ Start date}} for the Release date vlaue. Thank you. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 15:24, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Apparently this is a protected template because it's "high-risk", however reviewing the history I can't understand what justifies it to be "high-risk". I propose it no longer needs to be protected. -- Hm2k ( talk) 11:11, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
What happened to WP:NOPRICES? AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 10:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
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I've started a sandbox for this page, in which I've merged in the relevant fields from {{ Infobox Video game system}}. Just needs syced; I'll update the documentation once that's complete. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:55, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
What happened to the picture of the PS3 on the side of the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bozo33 ( talk • contribs) 20:13, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
perl -pwe 'BEGIN { $l=1; $d=1; } $l++ if s/^\| label\d+ */ sprintf("| label\%-6s", $l) /e; $d++ if s/^\| data\d+ */ sprintf("| data\%-7s", $d) /e;'
I don't know that the current order (just above) is really optimal. I'll post it below, people can mess with it, and if no one else can use my perl snippet I will take that and make a new editprotected once it is worked out. Anomie ⚔ 01:54, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Disabled the editprotected request here. You gotta be more clear about what needs doing; I'm lost. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 02:34, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
As I said above, "
Here is a stab at what the requested edit should look like." That edit will fix the errors discussed above. This subsection was intended for further discussing the best order for the parameters, although no one seems to be particularly interested in that.
Anomie
⚔
03:32, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
...appears twice. Eightball ( talk) 03:04, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
{{
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{{{unitssold|}}}
needs to be changed to {{{units sold|{{{unitssold|}}}}}}
so that the "Units sold" section will display in articles that already have the parameter written as "units sold" instead of "unitssold", similar to "Units shipped" in template. --
Silver Edge (
talk)
12:32, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} I believe none of the pages linked from the row titles provide necessary information, and, indeed, some of them are actively wrong (video games?) and the whole thing smack of overlinking. Please remove. 87.254.83.229 ( talk) 02:58, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
I propose the removal of the "Best-selling game"/"top game" parameter as per WP:No original research and WP:SELFPUB.
Nearly all the video game console articles using the aforementioned parameter violates WP:NOR, because the source(s) provided with the video game does not specifically state that it is the best-selling game for the console it was released for, the source(s) only indicate that the video game sold X number of copies. I believe the Nintendo GameCube article is the only article that has a video game listed, using this parameter, with a source that specifically states that it is the best-selling video game for its respective console. If this parameter is removed, this information can be rewritten in prose elsewhere in the GameCube article.
The use of this parameter, excluding the Nintendo GameCube article, also violates WP:SELFPUB ("Articles and posts on Wikipedia, or other websites that mirror Wikipedia content, may not be used as sources"), since it is most likely that List of best-selling video games is being used as a source to determine which video game is the best-selling game for a console, which is chosen based on the game that currently has the highest sourced sales figure.
If there is consensus to remove this parameter, the following code is required to be removed from this template:
| label28 = [[List of best-selling video games|Best-selling game]]
| data28 = {{{top game|{{{topgame|}}}}}}
--
Silver Edge (
talk)
10:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused here. ZXCVBNM's comment makes little to no sense to me, as I'm pretty sure it's directed at a specific use of the parameter somewhere. Not all game platform companies release a statement about which games are best-selling on a regular basis, if at all. (They don't seem to care so much if it's not a game they published themselves.) A quick look around the console articles using this parameter shows me that it is really only encouraging people to violate WP:SYNTH, because while figuring out which game is best-selling may seem like a routine calculation, labeling a game as such is, in fact, presenting new information. And KieferSkunk, the problem, then, isn't just that the list of best-selling video games is used as a reference the individual articles, but also that the citations used solely to report the number sold in the list article is turned around and used in the console article as a source stating that what is listed is its best-selling game, while they really say nothing of the sort.
I see no compelling reason to keep this parameter then, as it is rarely used within Wikipedia standards. In the few cases where it is, the information should be mentioned elsewhere in the article anyway. Khalfani Khaldun 20:16, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
This template is used for many home computers. And those computers certainly had special and varying sound hardware (one example is Commodore 64). It also features a "display" parameter, but misses a "video" parameter or something along that line to generate something for the display. These things ought to be in the template. As well as introduction price. But it's hardlocked. So for now I will do a workaround with the base template. Electron9 ( talk) 21:02, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}}
Requesting sync with the sandbox to re-add a parameter for introductory price (re-labelled to ensure that it is treated as a historical rather than current value, per WP:NOPRICES) and add a "sound" parameter for built-in sound hardware. Neither should be controversial. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:38, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
MSI Wind Netbook has an infobox specifying the dimensions of the computer but it's not visable. And the template source code (label27) specifies it. Aswell as the documentation. This just seems quite odd. Bug? Electron9 ( talk) 14:00, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I'm over at iPhone and I've noticed that the sound parameter is not showing up. Is this my fault or the templates'? (And wouldn't "audio" be a bit more formal?) Thanks in advance, HereToHelp ( talk to me) 23:01, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Please don't replace the names of parameters on already-deployed templates without providing backwards compatibility. {{{audio|}}} needs to be changed to {{{audio|{{{Sound|}}} }}}.
Chris Cunningham (not at work) -
talk
12:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
| bodyclass = vevent
| titleclass = summary
to:
| bodyclass = hproduct vevent
| titleclass = fn summary
and add:
| class2 = brand
| class8 = price
Thank you. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 13:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Can someone add a section for several hProduct identifer rows, for UPC and such? Something similar to:
| label35 = identifier1
| class35 = identifier
| label36 = type1
| class36 = identifier::type
| label37 = identifier2
| class37 = identifier
| label38 = type2
| class38 = identifier::type
Int21h ( talk) 23:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Currently, the "service" field is defined as "online service(s) offered". This apparently is quite vague. In the case of a smart phone, such as the iPhone, additional applications could be installed, and therefore increase the online services. I can easily see someone add, for example, a Twitter application, and then add "Twitter" to the service field of the smart phone. In other words, the service field could end up being huge and virtually meaningless. I want to avoid something like this from happening. The only way to fix this is to write better documentation for the "service" field, and just about all other fields in this infobox. Groink ( talk) 02:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
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Requesting sync with the sandbox to allow for {{ Mac specs}} to be merged here. No new parameters, simply support for the attribute titles used in that template. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:44, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Any objections if I add an optional "Supports:" field? That would be useful for media players, e-book readers etc. to indicate what content formats or other standards are supported by the device, e.g.: "Supports: MP3, WAV, OGG". Sandstein 08:32, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I am adding hearing aid compatibility rating information on phones as I find it. A while ago I added it to the "mobile phone" infobox, but now I see many (smart) phones are using the "information appliance" infobox instead. Please add 'hac=' to information appliance, or otherwise indicate the distinction between when this template should be used instead of mobile phone.
(some reference pages: Motorola Droid, HTC Hero, Blackberry Storm, Treo 700p, Treo 700w, Treo 650, Treo 755p, Palm Treo Pro)
Dsh13 ( talk) 20:37, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
It would probably be in the best interest, and safety, to add Specific Absorption Rate (SAR) to wireless telephone devices. We know that various governments have placed limits on radiation levels, but how much is really too much? Clearly, the cell phone is an important tool that many people use daily. But we also don't want to use phones with an SAR of 1.6 W/kg if the maximum SAR limit is 1.6 W/kg. So how much is too much? Could it be that 1 W/kg is too much? The lower exposure would be better but at the same time would lower SARs mean greater inadequate phone service? -- Bushido Hacks ( talk) 20:46, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
This is confusingly mentioned in an earlier thread. Shouldn't the price parameter be removed because of WP:NOPRICES? -- Alan Liefting ( talk) - 00:11, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
What happened to the model number field? Many Macintosh models were only listed in this field used in the Mac spec template, not in the article. Can we please get this added back?-- Mac128 ( talk) 16:48, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
What is the definition of "manufacturer", I ask because an editor of the iPad article has edited the manufacturer entry to be Foxconn (the Chinese assembler) instead of Apple, thus claiming that Foxconn, not Apple is the manufacturer of the iPad, but I cannot imagine that is the right interpretation. Foxconn also makes the Wii, but the article still lists Nintendo as the manufacturer. And Rightfully so I assume. Mahjongg ( talk) 00:30, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
We cannot ignore common usage of the term in general, and by the media and industry in particular. That Wikipedia articles use one convention might only suggest that Wikipedia is wrong. Ask the average person if Apple makes its own iPods and they may very well think so, or that Gap runs its own sweatshops etc. This is simply not common knowledge (that's the point of branding), and Wikipedia is shaped by common knowledge, as demonstrated by how you thought I was vandalizing the article. Pointing to the dictionary definition of manufacturing: "–noun 1. the making of goods or wares by manual labor or by machinery, esp. on a large scale: the manufacture of television sets. 2. the making or producing of anything; generation: the manufacture of body cells. 3. the thing or material manufactured; product: Plastic is an important manufacture. –verb (used with object) 4. to make or produce by hand or machinery, esp. on a large scale. 5. to work up (material) into form for use: to manufacture cotton. 6. to invent fictitiously; fabricate; concoct: to manufacture an account of the incident. 7. to produce in a mechanical way without inspiration or originality: to manufacture a daily quota of poetry." It mentions labor, machinery, etc. McDonald's (or its franchises) directly employs the people who flip the hamburgers, so I don't think the example is comparable. Foxconn is indeed a contract manufacturer, but the contract manufacturer is still a manufacturer, and this does nothing to imply that Apple is more of a manufacturer than Foxconn.
Based on the plain (dictionary) meaning of the term, the Wikipedia definition of it, the use of the term in this specific situation by those "in the know" like journalists, I think the evidence points strongly to the fact that there is no deliberate effort to label the developer of a product as the manufacturer.
What's your opinion of listing both? I think we do readers a disservice by listing only the developer as the manufacturer. It's simply misleading as saying Apple runs its own factories in China.-- Jiang ( talk) 13:17, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
The consensus I've seen is to list Apple as developer, which rightfully comes first, and Foxconn as manufacturer. I've seen Foxconn identified as an OEM and a contract manufacturer, both parenthetically in the infobox. Skimming both articles, the don't seem very different. Is there a preference which one to use?
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editrequest}}
Could someone please add a field for a
GPU below the existing
CPU, and an additional field above the CPU for
SOC? – As some devices are now using SOC instead of the separate CPU and GPU processors.
86.141.186.55 (
talk)
11:00, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
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template. — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk)
07:37, 24 June 2010 (UTC)I think GPS (global positioning system) would be a reasonable addition for Information Appliance infobox. Some people have been listing this under Connectivity, but that seems a stretch. Thoughts? -- KelleyCook ( talk) 14:03, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
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I think "Series" field is needed.
| label30 = Series | data30 =
| label31 = Predecessor | data31 = | label32 = Successor | data32 = Gnulinux ( talk) 15:42, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
A lot of new tablet are going to come to the market with front and rear facing cameras, I thing that we could precise it, like it is done in the smartphone infobox. -- Zouzzou ( talk) 11:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
We need a "battey" addition for information like mAh . Is there an admin here to make these changes ? Nobody in answering. -- Zouzzou ( talk) 23:48, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
It would be really helpful to me when I look up an Android device, such as the Samsung Galaxy Tab to be able to quickly answer the question, which screen density [2] is this device (ldpi, mdpi, hdpi, or xhdpi using Google's categorization). I find it difficult to convert from the PPI to DPI units used on wikipedia and the Android manual, on top of the fact that some devices, such as the Galaxy Tab, really fall between two categories. So it would be really helpful to just capture this information in this infobox.
My question - is there a place in the current template for this information? Or would it be appropriate to add a category such as this? - Legaia ( talk) 22:52, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Any guidelines on the appropriate content for this field?-- NapoliRoma ( talk) 05:55, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
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Please, sync with the sandbox to re-fix the sound parameter.-- KDesk ( talk) 19:18, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
{{{sound|{{{Sound|}}} }}}
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Please add:
This is borrowed from Template:Infobox Automobile (label2/data2 there) and should allow adding an alternative name for the system, as is done for automobiles. -- Born2cycle ( talk) 00:08, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
The implementation is a bit odd. Below the website URL, really? Shouldn't this be at the top, per the general consensus that we should get common alternative names out of the way quickly? Have a look at the current sandbox code, which places it at the top of the template, and see if that works for you. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) ( talk) 15:57, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
From WP:CFD: It is probably also a good idea to move Template:Information appliance to Template:Infobox IA. Jacoplane 00:05, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
This is really just an uglier duplicate of {{ infobox computer}}, so I'm going to work on merging them. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 23:23, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Why is there no price field, like in Template:Infobox_Motorcycle? or at least an initial price. -- Hm2k ( talk) 11:06, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Please add the hCalendar microformat, thus:
bodyclass = vevent
titleclass = summary
class1 = organiser
the relevant date can then be included by using {{ Start date}} for the Release date vlaue. Thank you. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 15:24, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Apparently this is a protected template because it's "high-risk", however reviewing the history I can't understand what justifies it to be "high-risk". I propose it no longer needs to be protected. -- Hm2k ( talk) 11:11, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
What happened to WP:NOPRICES? AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 10:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
I've started a sandbox for this page, in which I've merged in the relevant fields from {{ Infobox Video game system}}. Just needs syced; I'll update the documentation once that's complete. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:55, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
What happened to the picture of the PS3 on the side of the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bozo33 ( talk • contribs) 20:13, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
perl -pwe 'BEGIN { $l=1; $d=1; } $l++ if s/^\| label\d+ */ sprintf("| label\%-6s", $l) /e; $d++ if s/^\| data\d+ */ sprintf("| data\%-7s", $d) /e;'
I don't know that the current order (just above) is really optimal. I'll post it below, people can mess with it, and if no one else can use my perl snippet I will take that and make a new editprotected once it is worked out. Anomie ⚔ 01:54, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Disabled the editprotected request here. You gotta be more clear about what needs doing; I'm lost. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 02:34, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
As I said above, "
Here is a stab at what the requested edit should look like." That edit will fix the errors discussed above. This subsection was intended for further discussing the best order for the parameters, although no one seems to be particularly interested in that.
Anomie
⚔
03:32, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
...appears twice. Eightball ( talk) 03:04, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
{{{unitssold|}}}
needs to be changed to {{{units sold|{{{unitssold|}}}}}}
so that the "Units sold" section will display in articles that already have the parameter written as "units sold" instead of "unitssold", similar to "Units shipped" in template. --
Silver Edge (
talk)
12:32, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} I believe none of the pages linked from the row titles provide necessary information, and, indeed, some of them are actively wrong (video games?) and the whole thing smack of overlinking. Please remove. 87.254.83.229 ( talk) 02:58, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
I propose the removal of the "Best-selling game"/"top game" parameter as per WP:No original research and WP:SELFPUB.
Nearly all the video game console articles using the aforementioned parameter violates WP:NOR, because the source(s) provided with the video game does not specifically state that it is the best-selling game for the console it was released for, the source(s) only indicate that the video game sold X number of copies. I believe the Nintendo GameCube article is the only article that has a video game listed, using this parameter, with a source that specifically states that it is the best-selling video game for its respective console. If this parameter is removed, this information can be rewritten in prose elsewhere in the GameCube article.
The use of this parameter, excluding the Nintendo GameCube article, also violates WP:SELFPUB ("Articles and posts on Wikipedia, or other websites that mirror Wikipedia content, may not be used as sources"), since it is most likely that List of best-selling video games is being used as a source to determine which video game is the best-selling game for a console, which is chosen based on the game that currently has the highest sourced sales figure.
If there is consensus to remove this parameter, the following code is required to be removed from this template:
| label28 = [[List of best-selling video games|Best-selling game]]
| data28 = {{{top game|{{{topgame|}}}}}}
--
Silver Edge (
talk)
10:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused here. ZXCVBNM's comment makes little to no sense to me, as I'm pretty sure it's directed at a specific use of the parameter somewhere. Not all game platform companies release a statement about which games are best-selling on a regular basis, if at all. (They don't seem to care so much if it's not a game they published themselves.) A quick look around the console articles using this parameter shows me that it is really only encouraging people to violate WP:SYNTH, because while figuring out which game is best-selling may seem like a routine calculation, labeling a game as such is, in fact, presenting new information. And KieferSkunk, the problem, then, isn't just that the list of best-selling video games is used as a reference the individual articles, but also that the citations used solely to report the number sold in the list article is turned around and used in the console article as a source stating that what is listed is its best-selling game, while they really say nothing of the sort.
I see no compelling reason to keep this parameter then, as it is rarely used within Wikipedia standards. In the few cases where it is, the information should be mentioned elsewhere in the article anyway. Khalfani Khaldun 20:16, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
This template is used for many home computers. And those computers certainly had special and varying sound hardware (one example is Commodore 64). It also features a "display" parameter, but misses a "video" parameter or something along that line to generate something for the display. These things ought to be in the template. As well as introduction price. But it's hardlocked. So for now I will do a workaround with the base template. Electron9 ( talk) 21:02, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}}
Requesting sync with the sandbox to re-add a parameter for introductory price (re-labelled to ensure that it is treated as a historical rather than current value, per WP:NOPRICES) and add a "sound" parameter for built-in sound hardware. Neither should be controversial. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:38, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
MSI Wind Netbook has an infobox specifying the dimensions of the computer but it's not visable. And the template source code (label27) specifies it. Aswell as the documentation. This just seems quite odd. Bug? Electron9 ( talk) 14:00, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I'm over at iPhone and I've noticed that the sound parameter is not showing up. Is this my fault or the templates'? (And wouldn't "audio" be a bit more formal?) Thanks in advance, HereToHelp ( talk to me) 23:01, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Please don't replace the names of parameters on already-deployed templates without providing backwards compatibility. {{{audio|}}} needs to be changed to {{{audio|{{{Sound|}}} }}}.
Chris Cunningham (not at work) -
talk
12:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
| bodyclass = vevent
| titleclass = summary
to:
| bodyclass = hproduct vevent
| titleclass = fn summary
and add:
| class2 = brand
| class8 = price
Thank you. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 13:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Can someone add a section for several hProduct identifer rows, for UPC and such? Something similar to:
| label35 = identifier1
| class35 = identifier
| label36 = type1
| class36 = identifier::type
| label37 = identifier2
| class37 = identifier
| label38 = type2
| class38 = identifier::type
Int21h ( talk) 23:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Currently, the "service" field is defined as "online service(s) offered". This apparently is quite vague. In the case of a smart phone, such as the iPhone, additional applications could be installed, and therefore increase the online services. I can easily see someone add, for example, a Twitter application, and then add "Twitter" to the service field of the smart phone. In other words, the service field could end up being huge and virtually meaningless. I want to avoid something like this from happening. The only way to fix this is to write better documentation for the "service" field, and just about all other fields in this infobox. Groink ( talk) 02:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}}
Requesting sync with the sandbox to allow for {{ Mac specs}} to be merged here. No new parameters, simply support for the attribute titles used in that template. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:44, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Any objections if I add an optional "Supports:" field? That would be useful for media players, e-book readers etc. to indicate what content formats or other standards are supported by the device, e.g.: "Supports: MP3, WAV, OGG". Sandstein 08:32, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I am adding hearing aid compatibility rating information on phones as I find it. A while ago I added it to the "mobile phone" infobox, but now I see many (smart) phones are using the "information appliance" infobox instead. Please add 'hac=' to information appliance, or otherwise indicate the distinction between when this template should be used instead of mobile phone.
(some reference pages: Motorola Droid, HTC Hero, Blackberry Storm, Treo 700p, Treo 700w, Treo 650, Treo 755p, Palm Treo Pro)
Dsh13 ( talk) 20:37, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
It would probably be in the best interest, and safety, to add Specific Absorption Rate (SAR) to wireless telephone devices. We know that various governments have placed limits on radiation levels, but how much is really too much? Clearly, the cell phone is an important tool that many people use daily. But we also don't want to use phones with an SAR of 1.6 W/kg if the maximum SAR limit is 1.6 W/kg. So how much is too much? Could it be that 1 W/kg is too much? The lower exposure would be better but at the same time would lower SARs mean greater inadequate phone service? -- Bushido Hacks ( talk) 20:46, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
This is confusingly mentioned in an earlier thread. Shouldn't the price parameter be removed because of WP:NOPRICES? -- Alan Liefting ( talk) - 00:11, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
What happened to the model number field? Many Macintosh models were only listed in this field used in the Mac spec template, not in the article. Can we please get this added back?-- Mac128 ( talk) 16:48, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
What is the definition of "manufacturer", I ask because an editor of the iPad article has edited the manufacturer entry to be Foxconn (the Chinese assembler) instead of Apple, thus claiming that Foxconn, not Apple is the manufacturer of the iPad, but I cannot imagine that is the right interpretation. Foxconn also makes the Wii, but the article still lists Nintendo as the manufacturer. And Rightfully so I assume. Mahjongg ( talk) 00:30, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
We cannot ignore common usage of the term in general, and by the media and industry in particular. That Wikipedia articles use one convention might only suggest that Wikipedia is wrong. Ask the average person if Apple makes its own iPods and they may very well think so, or that Gap runs its own sweatshops etc. This is simply not common knowledge (that's the point of branding), and Wikipedia is shaped by common knowledge, as demonstrated by how you thought I was vandalizing the article. Pointing to the dictionary definition of manufacturing: "–noun 1. the making of goods or wares by manual labor or by machinery, esp. on a large scale: the manufacture of television sets. 2. the making or producing of anything; generation: the manufacture of body cells. 3. the thing or material manufactured; product: Plastic is an important manufacture. –verb (used with object) 4. to make or produce by hand or machinery, esp. on a large scale. 5. to work up (material) into form for use: to manufacture cotton. 6. to invent fictitiously; fabricate; concoct: to manufacture an account of the incident. 7. to produce in a mechanical way without inspiration or originality: to manufacture a daily quota of poetry." It mentions labor, machinery, etc. McDonald's (or its franchises) directly employs the people who flip the hamburgers, so I don't think the example is comparable. Foxconn is indeed a contract manufacturer, but the contract manufacturer is still a manufacturer, and this does nothing to imply that Apple is more of a manufacturer than Foxconn.
Based on the plain (dictionary) meaning of the term, the Wikipedia definition of it, the use of the term in this specific situation by those "in the know" like journalists, I think the evidence points strongly to the fact that there is no deliberate effort to label the developer of a product as the manufacturer.
What's your opinion of listing both? I think we do readers a disservice by listing only the developer as the manufacturer. It's simply misleading as saying Apple runs its own factories in China.-- Jiang ( talk) 13:17, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
The consensus I've seen is to list Apple as developer, which rightfully comes first, and Foxconn as manufacturer. I've seen Foxconn identified as an OEM and a contract manufacturer, both parenthetically in the infobox. Skimming both articles, the don't seem very different. Is there a preference which one to use?
{{
editrequest}}
Could someone please add a field for a
GPU below the existing
CPU, and an additional field above the CPU for
SOC? – As some devices are now using SOC instead of the separate CPU and GPU processors.
86.141.186.55 (
talk)
11:00, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
{{
edit protected}}
template. — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk)
07:37, 24 June 2010 (UTC)I think GPS (global positioning system) would be a reasonable addition for Information Appliance infobox. Some people have been listing this under Connectivity, but that seems a stretch. Thoughts? -- KelleyCook ( talk) 14:03, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
{{
edit protected}}
I think "Series" field is needed.
| label30 = Series | data30 =
| label31 = Predecessor | data31 = | label32 = Successor | data32 = Gnulinux ( talk) 15:42, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
A lot of new tablet are going to come to the market with front and rear facing cameras, I thing that we could precise it, like it is done in the smartphone infobox. -- Zouzzou ( talk) 11:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
We need a "battey" addition for information like mAh . Is there an admin here to make these changes ? Nobody in answering. -- Zouzzou ( talk) 23:48, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
It would be really helpful to me when I look up an Android device, such as the Samsung Galaxy Tab to be able to quickly answer the question, which screen density [2] is this device (ldpi, mdpi, hdpi, or xhdpi using Google's categorization). I find it difficult to convert from the PPI to DPI units used on wikipedia and the Android manual, on top of the fact that some devices, such as the Galaxy Tab, really fall between two categories. So it would be really helpful to just capture this information in this infobox.
My question - is there a place in the current template for this information? Or would it be appropriate to add a category such as this? - Legaia ( talk) 22:52, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Any guidelines on the appropriate content for this field?-- NapoliRoma ( talk) 05:55, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
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Please, sync with the sandbox to re-fix the sound parameter.-- KDesk ( talk) 19:18, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
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Please add:
This is borrowed from Template:Infobox Automobile (label2/data2 there) and should allow adding an alternative name for the system, as is done for automobiles. -- Born2cycle ( talk) 00:08, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
The implementation is a bit odd. Below the website URL, really? Shouldn't this be at the top, per the general consensus that we should get common alternative names out of the way quickly? Have a look at the current sandbox code, which places it at the top of the template, and see if that works for you. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) ( talk) 15:57, 9 November 2011 (UTC)