Your conduct at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#User:Marchjuly on Arsenal W.F.C. and harassment of Marchjuly (e.g. 1) is extremely inappropriate. You've already been blocked for similar behavior in the past, so you know what happens next. Please drop the stick. Thanks, FASTILY 23:03, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
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Request reason:
User:Fastily]] has blocked me for absolutely no reason whatsoever solely because I continue to question his decision making process in refusing to let me correct an obviously incorrect image. He has repeatedly threatened me with unnecessary sanctions from the beginning of this dispute and has finally followed through. User:Explicit, another administrator, has also personally attacked me and accused me of trying to "unilaterally overturn consensus" when I am - again - simply trying to correct a mistake. Both of these administrators demanded I submit an FFD in order to change the image in question, but neither of them had any further interest in productively participating in that FFD beyond continuing to threaten and attack me. This behavior is completely unacceptable, in my opinion. @ Tvx1: You have seen this administrator's behavior firsthand, please chime in if you're willing. Eightball ( talk) 12:29, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
Decline reason:
The edit warring over the image (instead of bringing it to DRV or FFD as you were advised) and conduct on ANI and elsewhere are not the correct behavior, and caused a simple disagreement to grow into a major dispute. As Fastily says below, I would be on board with shortening or lifting this block if you are willing to acknowledge the reasons for the block, and agree to avoid future edit warring or abuse over non-free images (or, in fact, in any topic area). Unfortunately, as long as you deny the basis for the block, I have no reason to believe that the same behavior won't resume as soon as the block is lifted. ST47 ( talk) 01:20, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
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I was pinged, so I'll give my thoughts. All in all, I feel that blocking this user indefinitely is a massive overreaction. I agree that Eightball maybe used a bit of strong language in the WP:AN thread, but at the same time they didn't issue any insult or threat to any of the involved users there. There I could have understood a short (e.g. 12 or 24 hours) block but an indefinite one is just disproportionate and excessive. Even more so since this user made only one more edit with regards to this issue (a rather civil reply at Explicit's talk page which only intended to clarify their concerns). That to me is nowhere near the "Non-stop wikilawyering/harassment of other editors" referred to in the block rationale. Unfortunately it appears that this user has been railroaded for having the audacity to post another reply on the talk page of administrator Explicit. Note that I myself have received such an aggressive warning from the administrator who issued this block, even though I did not do anything uncivil, threatening or insulting to anyone anywhere. Therefore I hope an uninvolved administrator will take the time carefully review this block. T v x1 15:59, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
@ ST47: 1. Bringing the image to DRV or FFD is NOT required, and I challenge you to provide a policy that says otherwise. As User:Tvx1 has pointed out numerous times (fun fact: he's also been indefinitely banned by Fastily, solely for speaking up in my defense), consensus can be overturned simply by editing, especially when new evidence is provided. That was the case here, and I provided said evidence. The reason this disagreement grew into a dispute has nothing to do with me and everything to do with User:Marchjuly refusing to consider that evidence and instead repeatedly reverting my edits. Were it not for that editor we would not be having that discussion. Furthermore - I DID eventually bring the image to FFD, and the editors there uninamously agreed with me. Do you know who didn't show up in the FFD? Both Fastily and Marchjuly. Odd. 2. I would sincerely request that you explain what I did wrong in the ANI as I am completely baffled as to what was the problem there. 3. This is a clear and obvious abuse of power by User:Fastily and I will be escalating the issue to the arbitration committee. As I stated before, he has also blocked User:Tvx1 for absolutely no reason. Eightball ( talk) 01:37, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
Forgive the intrusion, Eightball, I just want to see if I can help as this seems to me like another bad block. I think if you were willing to make a declaration along these lines you might find an uninvolved admin willing to give you another chance. I know from my own experiences that if you have previous blocks, admins quite often lapse into confirmation bias ("There's Eightball up to his old tricks again") rather than weighing up the proper context. They won't trail through this whole dispute and - to be fair - who can blame them? I obviously agree with what you've said here but I think you (we) need to 'play the long game'. Very clearly consensus is on our side, but if we succumb to provocation or allow ourselves to be pulled down to their level it gives them (or rather their go-to admins) a pretext to make these sort of tactical blocks. I apologise again as I know from my own experiences that well-intentioned do-gooders coming and pontificating on your talk page during a block can be annoying! If you do decide to go down the Arbcom route and need any assistance I will do anything I can. Cheers, Bring back Daz Sampson ( talk) 08:14, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
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Your conduct at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#User:Marchjuly on Arsenal W.F.C. and harassment of Marchjuly (e.g. 1) is extremely inappropriate. You've already been blocked for similar behavior in the past, so you know what happens next. Please drop the stick. Thanks, FASTILY 23:03, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Eightball ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
User:Fastily]] has blocked me for absolutely no reason whatsoever solely because I continue to question his decision making process in refusing to let me correct an obviously incorrect image. He has repeatedly threatened me with unnecessary sanctions from the beginning of this dispute and has finally followed through. User:Explicit, another administrator, has also personally attacked me and accused me of trying to "unilaterally overturn consensus" when I am - again - simply trying to correct a mistake. Both of these administrators demanded I submit an FFD in order to change the image in question, but neither of them had any further interest in productively participating in that FFD beyond continuing to threaten and attack me. This behavior is completely unacceptable, in my opinion. @ Tvx1: You have seen this administrator's behavior firsthand, please chime in if you're willing. Eightball ( talk) 12:29, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
Decline reason:
The edit warring over the image (instead of bringing it to DRV or FFD as you were advised) and conduct on ANI and elsewhere are not the correct behavior, and caused a simple disagreement to grow into a major dispute. As Fastily says below, I would be on board with shortening or lifting this block if you are willing to acknowledge the reasons for the block, and agree to avoid future edit warring or abuse over non-free images (or, in fact, in any topic area). Unfortunately, as long as you deny the basis for the block, I have no reason to believe that the same behavior won't resume as soon as the block is lifted. ST47 ( talk) 01:20, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
I was pinged, so I'll give my thoughts. All in all, I feel that blocking this user indefinitely is a massive overreaction. I agree that Eightball maybe used a bit of strong language in the WP:AN thread, but at the same time they didn't issue any insult or threat to any of the involved users there. There I could have understood a short (e.g. 12 or 24 hours) block but an indefinite one is just disproportionate and excessive. Even more so since this user made only one more edit with regards to this issue (a rather civil reply at Explicit's talk page which only intended to clarify their concerns). That to me is nowhere near the "Non-stop wikilawyering/harassment of other editors" referred to in the block rationale. Unfortunately it appears that this user has been railroaded for having the audacity to post another reply on the talk page of administrator Explicit. Note that I myself have received such an aggressive warning from the administrator who issued this block, even though I did not do anything uncivil, threatening or insulting to anyone anywhere. Therefore I hope an uninvolved administrator will take the time carefully review this block. T v x1 15:59, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
@ ST47: 1. Bringing the image to DRV or FFD is NOT required, and I challenge you to provide a policy that says otherwise. As User:Tvx1 has pointed out numerous times (fun fact: he's also been indefinitely banned by Fastily, solely for speaking up in my defense), consensus can be overturned simply by editing, especially when new evidence is provided. That was the case here, and I provided said evidence. The reason this disagreement grew into a dispute has nothing to do with me and everything to do with User:Marchjuly refusing to consider that evidence and instead repeatedly reverting my edits. Were it not for that editor we would not be having that discussion. Furthermore - I DID eventually bring the image to FFD, and the editors there uninamously agreed with me. Do you know who didn't show up in the FFD? Both Fastily and Marchjuly. Odd. 2. I would sincerely request that you explain what I did wrong in the ANI as I am completely baffled as to what was the problem there. 3. This is a clear and obvious abuse of power by User:Fastily and I will be escalating the issue to the arbitration committee. As I stated before, he has also blocked User:Tvx1 for absolutely no reason. Eightball ( talk) 01:37, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
Forgive the intrusion, Eightball, I just want to see if I can help as this seems to me like another bad block. I think if you were willing to make a declaration along these lines you might find an uninvolved admin willing to give you another chance. I know from my own experiences that if you have previous blocks, admins quite often lapse into confirmation bias ("There's Eightball up to his old tricks again") rather than weighing up the proper context. They won't trail through this whole dispute and - to be fair - who can blame them? I obviously agree with what you've said here but I think you (we) need to 'play the long game'. Very clearly consensus is on our side, but if we succumb to provocation or allow ourselves to be pulled down to their level it gives them (or rather their go-to admins) a pretext to make these sort of tactical blocks. I apologise again as I know from my own experiences that well-intentioned do-gooders coming and pontificating on your talk page during a block can be annoying! If you do decide to go down the Arbcom route and need any assistance I will do anything I can. Cheers, Bring back Daz Sampson ( talk) 08:14, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
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Hello WOSO editors! What a 2019 FIFA Women's World Cup in France! There has been a lot of activity on tournament- and player-related Wikipedia articles with all of the worldwide coverage of the tournament and its players. Let's keep the momentum going. WOMEN IN SPORTS EDIT-A-THON FOR JULY + AUGUST! Get all the info here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/126 Sign up and help fill in the gaps within various articles related to women's football / soccer - whether they be players, teams, leagues, historical, administrators, referees, etc. Every little bit helps. Be sure to tag your article talk pages with {{WIR-126}}. These edit-a-thons are a great way to work with others to help bridge the gender gaps on Wikipedia. Thanks for your contributions!
WP:GNG takes precedence over WP:NFOOTY (which only includes the players in two currently active women's leagues)? Often times there is enough media coverage that meets WP:GNG or other notability guidelines. For more information, see WP:WOSO#Notability and be sure to tag the new article talk page with: {{WP Women's sport|footy=yes}}
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WP:GNG takes precedence over WP:NFOOTY (which only includes the players in two currently active women's leagues)? Often times there is enough media coverage that meets WP:GNG or other notability guidelines. For more information, see WP:WOSO#Notability and be sure to tag the new article talk page with: {{WP Women's sport|footy=yes}}
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