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I Found a reference in a web page to toxicodermia caused by edible mushroom shiitake (Lentinus edodes). The web page is here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=4066320&dopt=Abstract
A few months ago i ate some of this mushrooms and i currently have a toxicodermia that has afected my body and face severely. Can anyone confirm if the mushroom is a possible cause? Doctors still seem to be very confused about the cause.
I was interested in a description of the shiitake's flavour but there was no mention of it (eg. compared to a white button mushroom).
I think that shiitake mashrooms are served in Simmered Dishes (Nimono) rather than miso soup. I haven't eat miso soup with shiitake mashrooms(My mother is Japanese).
Possible but not typical. Shiitake is not the most popular ingredient for miso soup. And yes, shiitake mashrooms are served in simmered dishes (Nimono) rather than miso soup. -- 163.139.215.193 15:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
The article linked to this entry must be old, because domestic U.S. production of fresh shiitake is common, although the large-scale quality can vary widely. Lots of small-scale market gardeners have taken up log-cultivation using predominantly oak logs, or other hardwoods, and produce very high-quality mushrooms. Different shiitake strains are well suited for different temperatures, fruiting from 50-80+ degrees F. They are commercially cultivated at least as far north as Wisconsin and as far south as Florida.
How can shiitake cultivation have begun in three different time periods (as most recent edit states): Ming Dynasty, Sung Dynasty, and in 199 CE? This doesn't make sense. Also, please add sources for this very specific information. Badagnani 17:55, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Okay -- I worked out the contractories based on newly cited sources:
Hope this helps -- ShinmaWa( talk) 05:30, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
This article would benefit from a taxonomy box. See the morel article for an example. 67.160.10.87 05:10, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't the article just be "Shiitake"? (Doesn't "-take" mean "mushroom"?) It would be like having an article called "Fujiyama Mountain" ("-yama" meaning "mountain"). Badagnani 18:41, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
I've known Shitake to be said when someone begins to say shit only to realise that they shouldn't swear in the current situation (eg. school). I expected this to have already been added. -- 211.28.237.112 13:54, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Shiit shiit shiitt!
Can anyone provide statistics on the amount of Vitamin D claimed to be provided by Shiitake? All online records and surveys I can find either don't mention it at all or record negligible content. --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.179.175.75 ( talk • contribs)
I created an entry for this question - Effect of sunlight on mushrooms Jatlas ( talk) 03:32, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
What I said. ffs it is marked 'requires cleanup'. lol. -- Planetfck ( talk) 11:52, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Badagnani reverted my removal of a number of commercial links with the comment: thanks, please read the discussion (have you?), and you'll see that the actual labeling of this mushroom and food items made with it is what was in question.
If we are referring to general usage of the word, we should cite reliable sources which are based on scholarly research, ideally corpus studies. I cited OED and American Heritage Dictionary, as well as the Cook's Thesaurus link you posted. What is the significance of the other links? The fourth link doesn't even mention Shiitake, the fifth link is a shopping site. Dforest ( talk) 02:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I've read both the talk page and history but I do not see justification for the commercial links. If you are trying to prove a point about how it is sold by citing numerous commercial links, it should be done on talk pages and not in the article text. Dforest ( talk) 02:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
The link was [1], and the only reference to "shiitake" is "Customers who bought this product also purchased: Shiitake & Sesame Dressing". The need to show the terms use in English does not trump consensus guidelines about commercial links ( WP:EL & WP:SPAM). Dforest ( talk) 03:23, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Relax. I am not accusing you of spamming; I am sure your intentions were good. But it is really not necessary to have so many external links. According to WP:EL, "links to sites that primarily exist to sell products or services are normally to be avoided." Also see Template:cleanup-spam:
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The article states that this mushroom is "generally known in the English-speaking world by its Japanese name, shiitake", and uses the Oxford English Dictionary as the source of this claim. However the Oxford English Dictionary merely gives a simple one sentence definition for the word, there is nothing that says it is "generally known in the English-speaking world by its Japanese name, shiitake". Therefore I have remove the reference and put a source need tag on the claim.
In any case, I think the name of this mushroom would vary according to region. In my part of the English-speaking world, it is generally called a "Chinese mushroom". 94.197.197.89 ( talk) 18:43, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
This part of the article has been flagged as biased. However all that is presented is Shiitake research that has been published. Any research showing lack of therapeutic effect or toxicity is not being blocked, so my view is this portion of the page should have its banner removed. Any opinions for or against removal of the banner is welcome below. Jatlas ( talk) 22:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
...seriously.
Come on... it's been beaten to death. No need to flag an edit describing the word's relationship to the popular scatological saying as "possible vandalism."
68.190.23.11 ( talk) 04:04, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
The Japanese listen file sounds like "see" -- not "shee" -- to me. 173.90.65.191 ( talk) 01:37, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
The bag of fresh mushrooms in a market are *not* Shiitake. Roger ( talk) 12:21, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
There appears to exist a dramatic contrast between the micronutrient values for raw shiitake mushrooms as contrasted with dried shiitake mushrooms. Does anyone know the reason? Whynot8 ( talk) 15:53, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
Is there a reason why the names are not list chronologically? 115.70.254.101 ( talk) 10:47, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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I Found a reference in a web page to toxicodermia caused by edible mushroom shiitake (Lentinus edodes). The web page is here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=4066320&dopt=Abstract
A few months ago i ate some of this mushrooms and i currently have a toxicodermia that has afected my body and face severely. Can anyone confirm if the mushroom is a possible cause? Doctors still seem to be very confused about the cause.
I was interested in a description of the shiitake's flavour but there was no mention of it (eg. compared to a white button mushroom).
I think that shiitake mashrooms are served in Simmered Dishes (Nimono) rather than miso soup. I haven't eat miso soup with shiitake mashrooms(My mother is Japanese).
Possible but not typical. Shiitake is not the most popular ingredient for miso soup. And yes, shiitake mashrooms are served in simmered dishes (Nimono) rather than miso soup. -- 163.139.215.193 15:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
The article linked to this entry must be old, because domestic U.S. production of fresh shiitake is common, although the large-scale quality can vary widely. Lots of small-scale market gardeners have taken up log-cultivation using predominantly oak logs, or other hardwoods, and produce very high-quality mushrooms. Different shiitake strains are well suited for different temperatures, fruiting from 50-80+ degrees F. They are commercially cultivated at least as far north as Wisconsin and as far south as Florida.
How can shiitake cultivation have begun in three different time periods (as most recent edit states): Ming Dynasty, Sung Dynasty, and in 199 CE? This doesn't make sense. Also, please add sources for this very specific information. Badagnani 17:55, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Okay -- I worked out the contractories based on newly cited sources:
Hope this helps -- ShinmaWa( talk) 05:30, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
This article would benefit from a taxonomy box. See the morel article for an example. 67.160.10.87 05:10, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't the article just be "Shiitake"? (Doesn't "-take" mean "mushroom"?) It would be like having an article called "Fujiyama Mountain" ("-yama" meaning "mountain"). Badagnani 18:41, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
I've known Shitake to be said when someone begins to say shit only to realise that they shouldn't swear in the current situation (eg. school). I expected this to have already been added. -- 211.28.237.112 13:54, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Shiit shiit shiitt!
Can anyone provide statistics on the amount of Vitamin D claimed to be provided by Shiitake? All online records and surveys I can find either don't mention it at all or record negligible content. --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.179.175.75 ( talk • contribs)
I created an entry for this question - Effect of sunlight on mushrooms Jatlas ( talk) 03:32, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
What I said. ffs it is marked 'requires cleanup'. lol. -- Planetfck ( talk) 11:52, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Badagnani reverted my removal of a number of commercial links with the comment: thanks, please read the discussion (have you?), and you'll see that the actual labeling of this mushroom and food items made with it is what was in question.
If we are referring to general usage of the word, we should cite reliable sources which are based on scholarly research, ideally corpus studies. I cited OED and American Heritage Dictionary, as well as the Cook's Thesaurus link you posted. What is the significance of the other links? The fourth link doesn't even mention Shiitake, the fifth link is a shopping site. Dforest ( talk) 02:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I've read both the talk page and history but I do not see justification for the commercial links. If you are trying to prove a point about how it is sold by citing numerous commercial links, it should be done on talk pages and not in the article text. Dforest ( talk) 02:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
The link was [1], and the only reference to "shiitake" is "Customers who bought this product also purchased: Shiitake & Sesame Dressing". The need to show the terms use in English does not trump consensus guidelines about commercial links ( WP:EL & WP:SPAM). Dforest ( talk) 03:23, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Relax. I am not accusing you of spamming; I am sure your intentions were good. But it is really not necessary to have so many external links. According to WP:EL, "links to sites that primarily exist to sell products or services are normally to be avoided." Also see Template:cleanup-spam:
![]() | This article or section may contain
spam. Wikipedia spam consists of external links mainly intended to promote a website. Wikipedia spam also consists of external links to websites which primarily exist to sell goods or services, use objectionable amounts of advertising, or require payment to view the relevant content. If you are familiar with the content of the external links, please help by removing promotional links in accordance with Wikipedia:External links. ( You can help!) |
Category:Wikipedia spam cleanup
Dforest ( talk) 03:41, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
The article states that this mushroom is "generally known in the English-speaking world by its Japanese name, shiitake", and uses the Oxford English Dictionary as the source of this claim. However the Oxford English Dictionary merely gives a simple one sentence definition for the word, there is nothing that says it is "generally known in the English-speaking world by its Japanese name, shiitake". Therefore I have remove the reference and put a source need tag on the claim.
In any case, I think the name of this mushroom would vary according to region. In my part of the English-speaking world, it is generally called a "Chinese mushroom". 94.197.197.89 ( talk) 18:43, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
This part of the article has been flagged as biased. However all that is presented is Shiitake research that has been published. Any research showing lack of therapeutic effect or toxicity is not being blocked, so my view is this portion of the page should have its banner removed. Any opinions for or against removal of the banner is welcome below. Jatlas ( talk) 22:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
...seriously.
Come on... it's been beaten to death. No need to flag an edit describing the word's relationship to the popular scatological saying as "possible vandalism."
68.190.23.11 ( talk) 04:04, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
The Japanese listen file sounds like "see" -- not "shee" -- to me. 173.90.65.191 ( talk) 01:37, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
The bag of fresh mushrooms in a market are *not* Shiitake. Roger ( talk) 12:21, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
There appears to exist a dramatic contrast between the micronutrient values for raw shiitake mushrooms as contrasted with dried shiitake mushrooms. Does anyone know the reason? Whynot8 ( talk) 15:53, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
Is there a reason why the names are not list chronologically? 115.70.254.101 ( talk) 10:47, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
The redirect
Ichtyol has been listed at
redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the
redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 2 § Ichtyol until a consensus is reached.
cogsan
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(stalk me)
15:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)