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Why do half the games have Win2000/PC etc. listed for them? AFAIK, the only SMT game that came out on PC was Giten Megami Tensei, which was on PC98/Win98. Kirbysuperstar ( talk) 09:39, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Those other ports are strictly Japan exclusive. They are released by a company called i-revo as stated in the Japan wiki articles. Iron2000 ( talk) 16:56, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Are Japanese players ever confused by the number of spinoffs and spinoff sequels present? Or do they memorize them all?
Who else has been working on these articles? Come on, don't be shy :)
-- Morzas Merix 15:53, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)
If we have anybody fluent in Japanese, we can extract a LOT of information from the Japanese wiki. I'd also like to add info on the Megami Tensei OVA as I've seen it and I'm currently the novel of the same title but I don't know if I should make a separate article or put them with the game. 68.123.155.254 11:09, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to point out that there IS an article for " Persona_(video_game)" which describes the first two titles in that series and the US versions. I'm not sure how that large block of dangling links should be handled though. -- Larry 07:37, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Since there's a link to the article with info. on the Persona series, I'm going to remove the links to the non-existant articles on the individual pages. Hope that's OK. Kuribosshoe 05:25, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
In the article, Majin Tensei is translated as Reincarnation of the Demon God. In Megaten universe only, Majin 魔神 is a clan of chief deities from various pantheons rathen than meaning demon(evil) god in this case. -- Peep
Can someone provide a source for the statement that the games weren't localized "because of their controversial content?" In at least some cases, the games weren't localized for reasons other than any potential controversy about their content (e.g. Sony Computer Entertainment America's policies against games that are direct ports from other systems).
Since no one has sourced this, I've removed it. Kuribosshoe 09:26, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
The article states that the title is often translated to "Reincarnation of the True Goddess." More correctly the title means "The True Shin Megami Tensei" or "The True Reincarnation of the Goddess." Atlus always uses a dot between "Shin" and "Megami Tensei," i.e. 真・女神転生.-- Dustin Asby 03:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Why are Earthbound and The World Ends With You listed in the see also section? Other than the fact that the games share a common genre (JRPG), I see no real semblance between the majority of these games. 98.15.233.250 ( talk) 20:49, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Is there any proof of this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.154.25.40 ( talk) 04:06, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
With articles appearing today (like this that list Meguro as the producer for P5 even though there's no official announcement, I've created redirects for SMT: P5 and P5 to salt them. -- MASEM ( t) 15:17, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I was wonderng if anyone wanted to work together to beef up the Megami Tensei articles that need it, particularly this one. ? EVAUNIT 神の人間の殺害者 16:20, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
This series is called "Shin Megami Tensei", not "Megami Tensei". Yes, the original two games were called just Megami Tensei and the "Shin" came from the Super Nintendo's naming style in Japan. That, however, does not change the fact that this series is largely known as "Shin Megami Tensei". Not a single game since the original two has been called "Megami Tensei" yet a good deal of them in Japan have been "Shin Megami Tensei" long after the SNES days. Furthermore, ALL of these games have been released outside of Japan under the "Shin Megami Tensei" title. Atlus itself refers to this as the "Shin Megami Tensei franchise". Not sure why Wikipedia refuses to accept this, but it's time to change this article to reflect the fact that this series is Shin Megami Tensei, not Megami Tensei. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.5.100.31 ( talk) 20:29, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
FWIW: I edited the opening paragraph, owing to confusion about this. Shin Megami Tensei is a "reboot" that happens in a different universe (that is much more convoluted/digressive than the original's, more biblical epic styled format.) Other spin-offs like Persona and IMAGINE briefly flirted with using "Megami Tensei" being apart from the SMT universe, and the original was remade for the Super Famicom. They are distinct. I personally feel the original is much more refined, and is superior, and that the tone of the latter games is if anything heretical/silly compared to the original's vision. It's sometimes hard to believe the same people directed all of these titles. MTII and the first Persona game are the best the series has to offer, both baring the plain MT title.-- 184.63.159.28 ( talk) 10:20, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Why are, in just one paragraph, Demons consistently referred to by 'nakama' and 'akuma'. I understand that the names are originally given to show the Japanese origin and reasoning for the words (ie. the homophone of 'nakama' and the japanese word for comrade, which is also not given) but to continue using these in the paragraph after these facts seems odd. They aren't used anywhere else in the article, and in the English games, Demon is used universally. Is there a justification for this? The paragraph in question. The enemies in the series tend to be referred to as akuma (悪魔?, "devil" or "demon") rather than the "monster" term used in many other RPGs. The player can recruit akuma to their side so that they become nakama (仲魔?) – "friendly demon", a homophone for "comrade" (仲間?). It is also possible to fuse multiple nakama to create another, more powerful nakama and, similarly, to upgrade weapons by fusing them with akuma. I'm suggesting that most of the uses of nakama and akuma here be changed to demon and ally demon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.25.140.48 ( talk) 00:48, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
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To avoid unnecessary changes & vandalism. — 73.47.37.131 ( talk) 22:43, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
An editor keeps on re-adding Etrian Odyssey as a spinoff of the Megami Tensei. As far as I've ever seen, this is false - they are not actually connected, they're both just merely developed by Atlus. I also doubt that such a glaring omission would have been missed by ProtoDrake and PresN when they brought the article up to Good Article status.
HÊÚL. - do you have any sources that back this claim? Any input from anyone else? Sergecross73 msg me 12:24, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. RM proposer mainly argued that SMT was the WP:COMMONNAME but consensus found that "Megami Tensei" (which is indeed still used in RS) is more WP:PRECISE and naturally disambiguating. It was also agreed that the proposed title wasn't very accurate. ( non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 19:23, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Megami Tensei → Shin Megami Tensei – I think there is an argument for moving the series article to "Shin Megami Tensei" which appears to be the commonly used current name across all regions, similar to how " Super Mario" became the name of that series going forward. It seems unlikely they are going to go back to "Megami Tensei" ever for any future games, with the original series being the only ones that use the "Megami Tensei" names. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 11:43, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
it seems no one really talks about this page much, but we should. theres a lot of good info and citations here but it's a really informal article that could use some revision. I am also bothered that Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei is completely ignored. even if it's just a 16 bit remaster, it's a hell of a game and at least warrants a mention and placement on the time line if stuff like devil kids is being mentioned. I would like to do some editing for the hell of it, at least to make some of the stuff a little less informal, I perhaps unfortunately have a bit of knowledge about the series myself and would like to spend some time looking into what has been said and what else there may be to say, might as well since theres a lot to work with as it is. I will make sure to attempt justifying any edits I make in an edit or talk page. Loosemanhole ( talk) 16:20, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
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Why do half the games have Win2000/PC etc. listed for them? AFAIK, the only SMT game that came out on PC was Giten Megami Tensei, which was on PC98/Win98. Kirbysuperstar ( talk) 09:39, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Those other ports are strictly Japan exclusive. They are released by a company called i-revo as stated in the Japan wiki articles. Iron2000 ( talk) 16:56, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Are Japanese players ever confused by the number of spinoffs and spinoff sequels present? Or do they memorize them all?
Who else has been working on these articles? Come on, don't be shy :)
-- Morzas Merix 15:53, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)
If we have anybody fluent in Japanese, we can extract a LOT of information from the Japanese wiki. I'd also like to add info on the Megami Tensei OVA as I've seen it and I'm currently the novel of the same title but I don't know if I should make a separate article or put them with the game. 68.123.155.254 11:09, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to point out that there IS an article for " Persona_(video_game)" which describes the first two titles in that series and the US versions. I'm not sure how that large block of dangling links should be handled though. -- Larry 07:37, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Since there's a link to the article with info. on the Persona series, I'm going to remove the links to the non-existant articles on the individual pages. Hope that's OK. Kuribosshoe 05:25, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
In the article, Majin Tensei is translated as Reincarnation of the Demon God. In Megaten universe only, Majin 魔神 is a clan of chief deities from various pantheons rathen than meaning demon(evil) god in this case. -- Peep
Can someone provide a source for the statement that the games weren't localized "because of their controversial content?" In at least some cases, the games weren't localized for reasons other than any potential controversy about their content (e.g. Sony Computer Entertainment America's policies against games that are direct ports from other systems).
Since no one has sourced this, I've removed it. Kuribosshoe 09:26, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
The article states that the title is often translated to "Reincarnation of the True Goddess." More correctly the title means "The True Shin Megami Tensei" or "The True Reincarnation of the Goddess." Atlus always uses a dot between "Shin" and "Megami Tensei," i.e. 真・女神転生.-- Dustin Asby 03:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Why are Earthbound and The World Ends With You listed in the see also section? Other than the fact that the games share a common genre (JRPG), I see no real semblance between the majority of these games. 98.15.233.250 ( talk) 20:49, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Is there any proof of this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.154.25.40 ( talk) 04:06, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
With articles appearing today (like this that list Meguro as the producer for P5 even though there's no official announcement, I've created redirects for SMT: P5 and P5 to salt them. -- MASEM ( t) 15:17, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I was wonderng if anyone wanted to work together to beef up the Megami Tensei articles that need it, particularly this one. ? EVAUNIT 神の人間の殺害者 16:20, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
This series is called "Shin Megami Tensei", not "Megami Tensei". Yes, the original two games were called just Megami Tensei and the "Shin" came from the Super Nintendo's naming style in Japan. That, however, does not change the fact that this series is largely known as "Shin Megami Tensei". Not a single game since the original two has been called "Megami Tensei" yet a good deal of them in Japan have been "Shin Megami Tensei" long after the SNES days. Furthermore, ALL of these games have been released outside of Japan under the "Shin Megami Tensei" title. Atlus itself refers to this as the "Shin Megami Tensei franchise". Not sure why Wikipedia refuses to accept this, but it's time to change this article to reflect the fact that this series is Shin Megami Tensei, not Megami Tensei. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.5.100.31 ( talk) 20:29, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
FWIW: I edited the opening paragraph, owing to confusion about this. Shin Megami Tensei is a "reboot" that happens in a different universe (that is much more convoluted/digressive than the original's, more biblical epic styled format.) Other spin-offs like Persona and IMAGINE briefly flirted with using "Megami Tensei" being apart from the SMT universe, and the original was remade for the Super Famicom. They are distinct. I personally feel the original is much more refined, and is superior, and that the tone of the latter games is if anything heretical/silly compared to the original's vision. It's sometimes hard to believe the same people directed all of these titles. MTII and the first Persona game are the best the series has to offer, both baring the plain MT title.-- 184.63.159.28 ( talk) 10:20, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Why are, in just one paragraph, Demons consistently referred to by 'nakama' and 'akuma'. I understand that the names are originally given to show the Japanese origin and reasoning for the words (ie. the homophone of 'nakama' and the japanese word for comrade, which is also not given) but to continue using these in the paragraph after these facts seems odd. They aren't used anywhere else in the article, and in the English games, Demon is used universally. Is there a justification for this? The paragraph in question. The enemies in the series tend to be referred to as akuma (悪魔?, "devil" or "demon") rather than the "monster" term used in many other RPGs. The player can recruit akuma to their side so that they become nakama (仲魔?) – "friendly demon", a homophone for "comrade" (仲間?). It is also possible to fuse multiple nakama to create another, more powerful nakama and, similarly, to upgrade weapons by fusing them with akuma. I'm suggesting that most of the uses of nakama and akuma here be changed to demon and ally demon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.25.140.48 ( talk) 00:48, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
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Okay! That was a lot of reading. It's all looking really good, so just a few things below which shouldn't take that long to fix- mainly small grammar issues.
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To avoid unnecessary changes & vandalism. — 73.47.37.131 ( talk) 22:43, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
An editor keeps on re-adding Etrian Odyssey as a spinoff of the Megami Tensei. As far as I've ever seen, this is false - they are not actually connected, they're both just merely developed by Atlus. I also doubt that such a glaring omission would have been missed by ProtoDrake and PresN when they brought the article up to Good Article status.
HÊÚL. - do you have any sources that back this claim? Any input from anyone else? Sergecross73 msg me 12:24, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. RM proposer mainly argued that SMT was the WP:COMMONNAME but consensus found that "Megami Tensei" (which is indeed still used in RS) is more WP:PRECISE and naturally disambiguating. It was also agreed that the proposed title wasn't very accurate. ( non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 19:23, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Megami Tensei → Shin Megami Tensei – I think there is an argument for moving the series article to "Shin Megami Tensei" which appears to be the commonly used current name across all regions, similar to how " Super Mario" became the name of that series going forward. It seems unlikely they are going to go back to "Megami Tensei" ever for any future games, with the original series being the only ones that use the "Megami Tensei" names. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 11:43, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
it seems no one really talks about this page much, but we should. theres a lot of good info and citations here but it's a really informal article that could use some revision. I am also bothered that Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei is completely ignored. even if it's just a 16 bit remaster, it's a hell of a game and at least warrants a mention and placement on the time line if stuff like devil kids is being mentioned. I would like to do some editing for the hell of it, at least to make some of the stuff a little less informal, I perhaps unfortunately have a bit of knowledge about the series myself and would like to spend some time looking into what has been said and what else there may be to say, might as well since theres a lot to work with as it is. I will make sure to attempt justifying any edits I make in an edit or talk page. Loosemanhole ( talk) 16:20, 22 August 2022 (UTC)