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Speaker: Gerard Batten MEP, UKIP (London), Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD) group informed the mainstream media about the Bilderberg Group event:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A5jNylGgds
On Thursday 6th June I attended the press area outside the Bilderberg conference adjacent to the grounds of the Grove Hotel in Watford. It was encouraging to see that representatives of the mainstream media were present for the first time in the 59 years that these meetings have been taking place annually. This included the BBC and Channel 4
I was interviewed by many news stations, national and international, and by independent film makers. Most enjoyably of all I was inteviewed by Alex Jones of ‘Info Wars’ fame in the USA. You can see it by cliking on this link, and here I give my perspective on the Bilderberg Group.
The existence of the Bilderberg Group can no longer be kept as a secret because of the internet, and they have decided to adopt a PR strategy. The media are participating in that, and it will be interesting to see how these meetings are represented.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBfrf-qqE3w — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.215.93.113 ( talk) 13:06, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
UKIP MEP Gerard Batten expands on his May 20 Bilderberg speech in the European Paliament
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=korRypDeTT0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.215.93.113 ( talk) 13:28, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
This article is currently tagged with {{ WikiProject Secret Societies}}. This seems odd to me: the Bilderberg Group may be many things, but it is not secret. The existence of the group is not a secret; the locations and dates of its conferences are public information; this year even the list of attendees has been released. Reading the 'Scope' section of Wikipedia:WikiProject Secret Societies, I don't think it fits - that page makes clear the WikiProject is for private membership organisations with some sort of oath or rite of initiation, which doesn't describe the Bilderberg. The WikiProject template should be removed. Robofish ( talk) 12:50, 7 June 2013 (UTC) Exactly...I removed it...it's a conspiracy theory to believe this is a secret group or society.-- MONGO 11:48, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
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It must be added after the "private" group meets, that the ". Despite this meeting are secured like in public
G8 case, where police and other public forces blockade neighborhood which risen controversy over the years. Usual private groups business meetings are not secured from taxpayer money".
[1]
This important because for 1) it is not the "mythic theory" but fact. 2) Bilderberg Group states that they are more transparent that other business meetings, because they publish info and guest list, however as private they don't need to info public opinion. However ways of security are similar to government meetings(which are published) and raises controversy why for example business meetings, which thousands take part in hotels, etc. don't have similar policy secure, and why usual people, tourists must be affected by usual business meetings. 3) This is also the thing, which real in fact are base for mythical questions and other theories, especially about "power group leading world", one of the reasons about this questions is way of public showing, police force usage etc..
I personally believe that the picture does show Mr. Bernanke at the Bilderberg conference, just as it says. However I checked the picture out and there is no evidence to show that's true. By WP's policies on living persons (poorly cited potentally negative material should be removed at once) I feel that I should take it off the page. Besides it does not illustrate the topic of the article. BayShrimp ( talk) 21:37, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
This article should not be tagged with Category:Conspiracy theories. The Bilderberg Group is not a conspiracy theory. There are conspiracy theories about the Bilderberg group. There are conspiracy theories about 9/11, but we don't put the 9/11 article in 'Category:Conspiracy theories'. - Crosbie 18:00, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
The article seems negative to me. Where is the positive? I'm guessing the answer lies in their position of secrecy, (no minutes, no reports, and lack of reporting -- as noted in the article here.) -- Narnia.Gate7 ( talk) 05:20, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
It is said on their official website
[1] (hat-tip, Alex Joneswww.infowarscom/bilderberg-2015-full-attendee-list-agenda/
unreliable fringe source?) that topic this year are:
"The key topics for discussion this year include":
Artificial Intelligence; Cybersecurity; Chemical Weapons Threats; Current Economic Issues; European Strategy; Globalisation; Greece; Iran; Middle East; NATO; Russia; Terrorism; United Kingdom; USA; US Elections;
Narnia.Gate7 (
talk)
12:59, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
www.infowarscom/exclusive-bilderberg-deploys-hi-tech-jamming-to-shut-down-communications/ unreliable fringe source?
Made it look as though this was typical, leaving out for some reason (why, User:Gareth E Kegg?) "I remember at the Watford conference in 2013, we had a relationship with the Hertfordshire constabulary that was every bit as open and tolerant as Will Smith’s marriage. In fact, our presence wasn’t just tolerated, it was actively supported. They had a team of liaison officers. They even gave us portable toilets, for goodness sake. The same in Copenhagen last year: the cops allowed us right up to the edge of the hotel. They made a genuine (if not always successful) effort to communicate with us, and meet our needs."
It's too early to add much material on the current conference in this article. And most material specific to this conference should go in its own article when the conference is over - if the article is kept, we don't have many on each conference. Doug Weller ( talk) 14:49, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Please correct your grammar so that we can understand what, if anything, you are trying to say. Please check your future contributions to be sure they are coherent and grammatical. --- Dagme ( talk) 09:20, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
I was the one who originally [en.wikipedia.org/?title=Bilderberg_Group&diff=next&oldid=666364906 added the sentence] "Reporters have written about police harrassment at Bilderberg compared to the G7 summit security, provided by the same personnel."Charlie Skelton (10 June 2015). "At the G7, we journalists were pampered – at Bilderberg we're harassed by police". The Guardian. Retrieved 10 June 2015. I stand behind this sentence and cannot see how it is not undue and not "too early", Doug Weller. I think better reasons for removal of sourced content need to be launched.-- Wuerzele ( talk) 16:03, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
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I suggest adding content related to the invitation of criminals for the 2015 Bilderberg meeting. It has been covered by reliable sources, such as The Guardian [2]. Dornicke ( talk) 16:32, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
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This is a standard term and of course we have an article with that name. Doug Weller talk 19:20, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
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These meetings were used a plot device in the British Television show Utopia S02E01 where two of the shows main characters (an MI6 Officer and a biochemist) meet and discuss the population management of Earth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.212.215.11 ( talk) 22:04, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
The word "experts" is taken from the Bilderberg website and would normally be deleted as spam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.57.15 ( talk) 16:54, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
See Le Cercle - I've worked on it but it needs to be brought uptodate. Doug Weller talk 17:31, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
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The hotel does not appear to have stand alone notability per WP:NCOMPANY, I suggest redirecting here after merging the one or so useful sentence from the lead (which can fit well in the history section here). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:13, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
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Speaker: Gerard Batten MEP, UKIP (London), Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD) group informed the mainstream media about the Bilderberg Group event:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A5jNylGgds
On Thursday 6th June I attended the press area outside the Bilderberg conference adjacent to the grounds of the Grove Hotel in Watford. It was encouraging to see that representatives of the mainstream media were present for the first time in the 59 years that these meetings have been taking place annually. This included the BBC and Channel 4
I was interviewed by many news stations, national and international, and by independent film makers. Most enjoyably of all I was inteviewed by Alex Jones of ‘Info Wars’ fame in the USA. You can see it by cliking on this link, and here I give my perspective on the Bilderberg Group.
The existence of the Bilderberg Group can no longer be kept as a secret because of the internet, and they have decided to adopt a PR strategy. The media are participating in that, and it will be interesting to see how these meetings are represented.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBfrf-qqE3w — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.215.93.113 ( talk) 13:06, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
UKIP MEP Gerard Batten expands on his May 20 Bilderberg speech in the European Paliament
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=korRypDeTT0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.215.93.113 ( talk) 13:28, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
This article is currently tagged with {{ WikiProject Secret Societies}}. This seems odd to me: the Bilderberg Group may be many things, but it is not secret. The existence of the group is not a secret; the locations and dates of its conferences are public information; this year even the list of attendees has been released. Reading the 'Scope' section of Wikipedia:WikiProject Secret Societies, I don't think it fits - that page makes clear the WikiProject is for private membership organisations with some sort of oath or rite of initiation, which doesn't describe the Bilderberg. The WikiProject template should be removed. Robofish ( talk) 12:50, 7 June 2013 (UTC) Exactly...I removed it...it's a conspiracy theory to believe this is a secret group or society.-- MONGO 11:48, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
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It must be added after the "private" group meets, that the ". Despite this meeting are secured like in public
G8 case, where police and other public forces blockade neighborhood which risen controversy over the years. Usual private groups business meetings are not secured from taxpayer money".
[1]
This important because for 1) it is not the "mythic theory" but fact. 2) Bilderberg Group states that they are more transparent that other business meetings, because they publish info and guest list, however as private they don't need to info public opinion. However ways of security are similar to government meetings(which are published) and raises controversy why for example business meetings, which thousands take part in hotels, etc. don't have similar policy secure, and why usual people, tourists must be affected by usual business meetings. 3) This is also the thing, which real in fact are base for mythical questions and other theories, especially about "power group leading world", one of the reasons about this questions is way of public showing, police force usage etc..
I personally believe that the picture does show Mr. Bernanke at the Bilderberg conference, just as it says. However I checked the picture out and there is no evidence to show that's true. By WP's policies on living persons (poorly cited potentally negative material should be removed at once) I feel that I should take it off the page. Besides it does not illustrate the topic of the article. BayShrimp ( talk) 21:37, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
This article should not be tagged with Category:Conspiracy theories. The Bilderberg Group is not a conspiracy theory. There are conspiracy theories about the Bilderberg group. There are conspiracy theories about 9/11, but we don't put the 9/11 article in 'Category:Conspiracy theories'. - Crosbie 18:00, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
The article seems negative to me. Where is the positive? I'm guessing the answer lies in their position of secrecy, (no minutes, no reports, and lack of reporting -- as noted in the article here.) -- Narnia.Gate7 ( talk) 05:20, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
It is said on their official website
[1] (hat-tip, Alex Joneswww.infowarscom/bilderberg-2015-full-attendee-list-agenda/
unreliable fringe source?) that topic this year are:
"The key topics for discussion this year include":
Artificial Intelligence; Cybersecurity; Chemical Weapons Threats; Current Economic Issues; European Strategy; Globalisation; Greece; Iran; Middle East; NATO; Russia; Terrorism; United Kingdom; USA; US Elections;
Narnia.Gate7 (
talk)
12:59, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
www.infowarscom/exclusive-bilderberg-deploys-hi-tech-jamming-to-shut-down-communications/ unreliable fringe source?
Made it look as though this was typical, leaving out for some reason (why, User:Gareth E Kegg?) "I remember at the Watford conference in 2013, we had a relationship with the Hertfordshire constabulary that was every bit as open and tolerant as Will Smith’s marriage. In fact, our presence wasn’t just tolerated, it was actively supported. They had a team of liaison officers. They even gave us portable toilets, for goodness sake. The same in Copenhagen last year: the cops allowed us right up to the edge of the hotel. They made a genuine (if not always successful) effort to communicate with us, and meet our needs."
It's too early to add much material on the current conference in this article. And most material specific to this conference should go in its own article when the conference is over - if the article is kept, we don't have many on each conference. Doug Weller ( talk) 14:49, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Please correct your grammar so that we can understand what, if anything, you are trying to say. Please check your future contributions to be sure they are coherent and grammatical. --- Dagme ( talk) 09:20, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
I was the one who originally [en.wikipedia.org/?title=Bilderberg_Group&diff=next&oldid=666364906 added the sentence] "Reporters have written about police harrassment at Bilderberg compared to the G7 summit security, provided by the same personnel."Charlie Skelton (10 June 2015). "At the G7, we journalists were pampered – at Bilderberg we're harassed by police". The Guardian. Retrieved 10 June 2015. I stand behind this sentence and cannot see how it is not undue and not "too early", Doug Weller. I think better reasons for removal of sourced content need to be launched.-- Wuerzele ( talk) 16:03, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
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I suggest adding content related to the invitation of criminals for the 2015 Bilderberg meeting. It has been covered by reliable sources, such as The Guardian [2]. Dornicke ( talk) 16:32, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
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This is a standard term and of course we have an article with that name. Doug Weller talk 19:20, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
2001:8003:A928:800:F91B:5BF:4D78:4BDE ( talk) 05:50, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
These meetings were used a plot device in the British Television show Utopia S02E01 where two of the shows main characters (an MI6 Officer and a biochemist) meet and discuss the population management of Earth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.212.215.11 ( talk) 22:04, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
The word "experts" is taken from the Bilderberg website and would normally be deleted as spam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.57.15 ( talk) 16:54, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
See Le Cercle - I've worked on it but it needs to be brought uptodate. Doug Weller talk 17:31, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
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The hotel does not appear to have stand alone notability per WP:NCOMPANY, I suggest redirecting here after merging the one or so useful sentence from the lead (which can fit well in the history section here). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:13, 20 February 2020 (UTC)