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I fail to see how removing references to Breitbart and Infowars violates NPOV. Neither is considered a reliable source. I will not revert my edits. Trivialist ( talk) 19:13, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
Sorry if this seems confrontational, but I'm just curious if you have used any other accounts or been editing logged out. It's pretty unusual for an account to make five edits, disappear for half a decade, and then come back and become relatively prolific on two talk pages and a noticeboard, and I'm noticing that a significant number of your opinions on said noticeboard appear to be somewhat extreme. Have you read WP:RS? Being a dissenting voice is fine (I usually try to give some alternative point of view on matters brought up there that attract my attention), but if you regularly post things that are not supported by community consensus, there's a small chance no one else will post and your opinion could mislead someone. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 00:05, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 00:13, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Endercase, I can't answer at AN/I, but your question deserves a response. It's an American euphemism. During the Civil War, the Confederacy (south) issued its own money. According to American law, and certainly after the war, it had no value; thus a comment that crackles (the sound crisp paper bills make) like Confederate money means it's valueless, phony or fake. We usually use it when someone says something that sounds like what another wants to hear, but they don't really mean what they say, or variations on that scenario. -- Drmargi ( talk) 20:08, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Why in the world are you welcoming obvious vandals/socks as well as editors who have been around for years? -- NeilN talk to me 21:58, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Now, that essay will almost certainly be userfied, so that's a thing, but I really think you should just forget about it and move on to writing more articles. 13/210 of your edits this month have been to the mainspace, and I can't see one of them because you reinserted something that an admin, User:Diannaa, had removed as a copyvio. You also are currently proposing a "boomerang" for another admin on ANI, but ... think about that for a second. What boomerang would be appropriate for
User:Beeblebrox? I am limiting my ANI activity in order to focus more on content than I already have been, but the only outside parties who have advised me to do so were doing so informally and as friends; I find it really weird that you appear to be doing the opposite, especially considering an admin recently threatened to block you if you didn't stop making comments like your recent comment on a certain user talk page (and, again, your comment about Beeblebrox honestly looks exactly the same, at least to my eyes). Seriously, why not just stay the heck away from the WP: namespace and write articles? I feel like I've said this to you about eight million times. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 09:25, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
By the way -- being blocked is part of being a Wikipedian, and you would be hard-pressed to find a long-term contributor with a clean block log. People who are not able to emotionally deal with being blocked are not the kond of people who should be editing Wikipedia, because it would not be fair on the rest of us if they didn't get blocked for the same behaviour that the rest of us get blocked for. Saying that such users need to "grow a pair" is essentially the same as this, and demanding that someone strike it as "ad hominem" completely misses the point. But I can't possibly understand why you are fixating on that page given how you haven't been blocked. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 09:55, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
@ Hijiri88: It should be noted that I struck a portion of your post at the RfC, you once again referred to the mentorship as mandatory while demeaning my !vote, as I have already shown to you the close was "No Consensus". I highly suggest that you read Wp:civil again and the comments that I made that caused you to end your mentorship with me. I would also request that you stop harassing/hounding me is various locations throughout Wikipedia as you have done since we first encountered each other. Endercase ( talk) 15:54, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I can't even take the essay seriously after "For a few people, being blocked is the worst punishment they've ever had in their adult life." Not only that, but it masks the damage of vandalism and disruptive editing by pulling on the heart strings of readers with this line, "This is doubly so if any of these factors apply: no warning or engagement, no proper explanation, or the block is unjustified or only arguably justified." Such blocks more than likely only happen when an editor is being extremely disruptive, and the administrator has no other choice. Our administrators understand that blocks are not meant to be punishment, but a preventative safeguard to protect Wikipedia, since anybody can edit it. Boomer Vial Holla! We gonna ball! 14:40, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Except it provides no information on how to actually deal with such blocks. All it does is pad disruptive behavior. Let's go over it.
"Wikipedia is one of the world's most popular websites. Anybody can edit it (normally). Being blocked from editing it is distressing. This is doubly so if any of these factors apply: no warning or engagement, no proper explanation, or the block is unjustified or only arguably justified."
"Of course many blocks are necessary and we're not saying they're not, but there's an emotional toll. Consider that some people, or a few people at any rate, have never been in jail (or even arrested). have never been sued. have never been suspended from school (or even had detention, or failed a class). have never been fired from a job for cause (or even called on the carpet for a serous dressing down by their boss). have never been in a physical fight (or even shouting verbal confrontation (except maybe as a schoolchild or maybe a lover's quarrel)). have never been kicked out of their house or come home to find the locks changed. We know that a lot of people have had some (or, God forbid, all) of these things happen to them, but the average person – you can call them goody-goodies if you want to – tries to follow the rules and takes sanctions by authorities very much to heart. For a few people, being blocked is the worst punishment they've ever had in their adult life. This is the first time someone has said to them "You've broken the rules, and badly, and you're in a lot of trouble here". Or one of the few times. And that certainly is the message one takes from being blocked, regardless of how we try to gild that. It's a pretty hard thing to hear, for a few people."
"We know for a lot of experienced Wikipedians (which includes all admins), "Under the spreading chestnut tree / I blocked you and you blocked me" is all part of the WP:MMORPG. But most of our editors, particularly new editors, come from a place called "real life"."
"A person, particularly a new user, on being blocked is not likely to say "Oh, well, here is part of the functioning of this site. I'll just put in this template, formatted properly, and enter litigation on this matter, all in good fun". The person is likely to be appalled, horrified, angry, sad, alarmed, and disgusted. They'll likely close the page at once and never come back (but they'll have a story about what a screwup the Wikipedia is). So whether its a new user or not, any block of any duration has a non-trivial chance of being permanent, in that the user is likely to just throw up his hands and walk away. Again, lots of blocks are necessary, and we thank our volunteer administrators for enhancing the functioning of the Wikipedia in this way. But, you know, we want to be careful here." This entire essay is basically saying that administrators should be more lenient when blocking new editors, regardless of if their behavior is disruptive, due to a risk to the editor retention rate, as well as victimizing those who are reaping what they sown as a fruit of their behavior. Boomer Vial Holla! We gonna ball! 15:29, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Wikipedia talk:Being blocked hurts. Such edits are disruptive and appear to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Chris Troutman ( talk) 16:07, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Wikipedia talk:Being blocked hurts, you may be blocked from editing. I was mistaken in removing your comments; I only saw the strikes you introduced and your edit summary didn't indicate a separate comment. That does not excuse your behavior. Chris Troutman ( talk) 16:16, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Why [2]? It seems ... well, not in keeping with community spirit. - Bri ( talk) 20:39, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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MjolnirPants: Military courts have different burdens of proof, are we closer to that? I think this encyclopedia is a society, things don't have to be fair or just but they should benefit the encyclopedia. We do need a better solution to Socks, maybe emoji recognition (South Park reff). Anyway, thank you for the discussion, I will temper my defence of peers I feel have not been given a fair shake and try preventive measures instead (as I am doing with BulbAtop (who has odd contribs)).
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If you revert again or otherwise comment at this account's Talk page, I will block you for your disruption and your disruptive attitude.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 15:02, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
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talk to me 15:42, 1 May 2017 (UTC)To prevent further disruption by your attempts at "discussion". -- NeilN talk to me 15:43, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
My most recent attempt at communication via template with an admin was ineffective. I know know that templating the regulars may result in a block (once unblocked I will leave a note at the relevant essay (or make a list) that specific regulars may not be templated without consequences (anyone may sign that (list?))). I will work on conveying my ideas about socks and COI into an essay or addendum to current policy, such that I can effectively communicate my views on the issue. To be clear I do think that socks should be regulated or blocked or banned in an effective preventive manner. It should now be obvious to all parties involved that templates are not effective communication or discussion starting tools. Endercase ( talk) 16:35, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
The sheer idiocy of comparing sockmasters to a class of people historically discriminated against leaves me breathless. @ GB fan, Bbb23, and DoRD: I will be recusing myself from taking any future admin actions with regards to this editor. -- NeilN talk to me 20:30, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
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Endercase ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log)) UTRS appeal #18181 was submitted on May 02, 2017 23:01:38. This review is now closed.
-- UTRSBot ( talk) 23:01, 2 May 2017 (UTC) @ NeilN, Bbb23, and Just Chilling: I would like to continue discussion on the above topics until I have a full understanding. But, I fear doing so would be deemed disruptive. May I archive these two discussions to help remove the temptation? Endercase ( talk) 00:01, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
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I've been looking at this WP:ANI discussion, which was closed as recently as 20 March. You were quite strongly criticized by experienced editors and admins there, and a topic ban from WP:RSN gained considerable support. It looks like you escaped sanctions for two reasons: 1) because the idea of mentoring was broached, and you yourself appeared to accept mentoring by the two people who offered, though the way it would work was left a little vague both by you and the closer of the thread, [3] and 2) because you seemed at least somewhat ready to accept responsibility for the disruption you had caused.
After the ANI thread was closed, I looked to see how you were doing, alerted by a post on User talk:MjolnirPants, which I watch. I was a little taken aback to note your passive-aggressive and condescending comment about Hijiri88 — one of your mentors at that time, no less — on Vfrickey's talkpage, in a fake 'defence' of them against Vfrickey's lengthy wikilawyering: "..I do not feel like Hijiri 88 is beyond help in these matters. If you (=Vfrickey) are able to convince them that their specific actions were harmful to the encyclopedia I am certain that they would change their behavior moving forward" [4] followed the next day by an actual attack on the same page: "You have a history of edit warring and demeaning behavior. In addition, you are also a rampant POV pusher and constantly and consistently fail to observe good faith. .. While I do appreciate you and your efforts to make me a better editor, you are kinda a wp:dick.." [5]
Having noticed these highly personal comments and others, such as an utterly irrelevant attack on Guy here, followed by MjolnirPants's reply that Guy has tons of experience and is widely respected, then followed by egregious wikilawyering by you: "So you are saying they are experts in Wikipedia (more than equals?)? I thought that was a violation of policy." Have you noticed how conversation stops when you go into that mode..? Believe me, it's not because the other person has been convinced.
I considered blocking you, specifically for talking in this way to somebody who had spent time trying to help you, but I think you may not realize how your manner affects others. Therefore I'll give you some advice instead: 1) please don't comment on other people at all (because I really don't think you have much sense for how it affects them, perhaps even when you're trying to be nice) and 2) please try to read policies for their spirit, not for finding policy fragments that prove how right you are. People will soon get tired of trying to explain things to you, simply because you make so many insensitive comments about other people, and you cherry-pick so many policies in defence of yourself. Both these approaches are fundamentally wrong. Put your listening ears on instead. If you don't, you'll end up blocked. Bishonen | talk 18:29, 27 March 2017 (UTC).
Endercase, in your long reply, you project a conviction that it's necessarily a virtue to 'speak your mind' and be frank at all times. No, it isn't. I see you constructing a theory that it's a good thing to tell people how they "come across" (to you), otherwise they're not going to improve and will end up at AN/I. But I think it's a flawed theory. "Honesty" is overrated when it comes to telling people what you think of them. I'm not asking you to be dishonest, but there's nothing dishonest about keeping your mouth shut at the right times. Speech is for communication, it's not for expressing your feelings and never mind the cost or the result or the impression it makes on the other person. Telling people they're a dick and so on doesn't communicate or help anybody to improve, it only offends. I understand you find the Wikipedia culture in this regard overly reserved ("I notice that most people here are very reserved and don't often speak their feelings"), and you want to improve that culture. You don't want to adjust to it. Now I agree with what Hijiri says just above: "Go write articles. Stop talking about changing policy and guideline pages," and I would add, stop trying to change the culture, be more open to adjusting to it. The typical somewhat cautious Wikipedia discourse, codified in policies like WP:CIV, is unlikely to change because one person behaves in the opposite way and is devastatingly frank at all times, under the banner of "Should I not speak my mind?" Please instead follow my simple advice above and don't comment on other people at all — go edit articles. Bishonen | talk 11:25, 28 March 2017 (UTC).
Thank you @Endercase!😀😀😃😄
Still finding my way around and the tips were helpful. Thank you. BulbAtop ( talk) 23:47, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
@ Endercase: Oh okay.....but you didn't answer the question though. BulbAtop ( talk) 04:13, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
...Guessing I got lost in junk mail lol? BlbAtp ( talk) 07:30, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Interwebs? BlbAtp ( talk) 21:12, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Sure. But just lemme sort a few things out first, good?
BlbAtp ( talk) 16:43, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
I just read through this section, and I want to say a few things (in order in which the things they are in response to appear):
and explain certain aspects of electricity in a manner that tends to describe some of the measured effects better than current leading methodsFrom what I've read, I'd have to disagree (admittedly, he's not my favorite crank so I haven't read all that much), and I suspect any decent physicist would, too. His writings might be much easier to conceptualize, but that doesn't mean they hold up to any scrutiny.
I wrote this before noticing your comment immediately above "I don't think the question is if it is Canvassing or not. I think it should be "Was it inappropriate canvassing?" ". Of course, I agree.-- S Philbrick (Talk) 21:32, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
Seeing this: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Perfect Orange Sphere/Archive
I'm posting here for two reasons: first, I feel you may feel vindicated as you were predicting socking while everyone else was ignoring it, and I was disagreeing with you. Second, it's a great example of the disruption socking can cause. An article was subject to a counterfactual POV shift for a year, editors were chased away from the project and projects like our formal mediation were subject to gaming and disruption. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 15:15, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
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I reverted your change, where you said People with "genetic disorders" are human too. -- Changed "Humans have x" to "The vast majority of humans have x" following wp:cycl. The list is a list of species, not of individuals. Homo Sapiens, as a species, has 46 chromosomes. This is like saying that "Zebras have stripes", which is correct for a species, and not invalidated by an example of an individual which doesn't. Tarl N. ( discuss) 05:04, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
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I've been getting the occasional email about how there was a failed attempt to log into my account. Today received an email claiming there had been multiple attempts that have failed recently. This notification is just in case I do lose control of my account temporarily. I have taken the proper measures with my password, but you never really know. Please email me at endercase@gmail.com in case there is a problem. I haven't been very active on Wikipedia lately. Endercase ( talk) 15:13, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
I haven't seen you popping up on my watchlist in a while. I've also looked through your contribs, and I have to say that I like what I see. So really, this is just me saying "Hi" and wishing you the best. :) ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 16:19, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
Other editors at Talk:PragerU have given you good advice regarding the reliability of WorldNetDaily and Breitbart. You would be wise to follow it. As you know these sources have been discussed and rejected at RSN many times, and continuing to push for their inclusion is disruptive. As for Preston Business Review, a quick scan of their homepage reveals that the site is nothing more than a collection of stories copied from other sources and attributed to Caroline Biscotti. The story in question was in fact copied from WND. Did you examine the source before advocating for its reliability? I hope you consider this and stop the disruption before it becomes necessary to pursue sanctions. – dlthewave ☎ 14:28, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
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I fail to see how removing references to Breitbart and Infowars violates NPOV. Neither is considered a reliable source. I will not revert my edits. Trivialist ( talk) 19:13, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
Sorry if this seems confrontational, but I'm just curious if you have used any other accounts or been editing logged out. It's pretty unusual for an account to make five edits, disappear for half a decade, and then come back and become relatively prolific on two talk pages and a noticeboard, and I'm noticing that a significant number of your opinions on said noticeboard appear to be somewhat extreme. Have you read WP:RS? Being a dissenting voice is fine (I usually try to give some alternative point of view on matters brought up there that attract my attention), but if you regularly post things that are not supported by community consensus, there's a small chance no one else will post and your opinion could mislead someone. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 00:05, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 00:13, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Endercase, I can't answer at AN/I, but your question deserves a response. It's an American euphemism. During the Civil War, the Confederacy (south) issued its own money. According to American law, and certainly after the war, it had no value; thus a comment that crackles (the sound crisp paper bills make) like Confederate money means it's valueless, phony or fake. We usually use it when someone says something that sounds like what another wants to hear, but they don't really mean what they say, or variations on that scenario. -- Drmargi ( talk) 20:08, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Why in the world are you welcoming obvious vandals/socks as well as editors who have been around for years? -- NeilN talk to me 21:58, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Now, that essay will almost certainly be userfied, so that's a thing, but I really think you should just forget about it and move on to writing more articles. 13/210 of your edits this month have been to the mainspace, and I can't see one of them because you reinserted something that an admin, User:Diannaa, had removed as a copyvio. You also are currently proposing a "boomerang" for another admin on ANI, but ... think about that for a second. What boomerang would be appropriate for
User:Beeblebrox? I am limiting my ANI activity in order to focus more on content than I already have been, but the only outside parties who have advised me to do so were doing so informally and as friends; I find it really weird that you appear to be doing the opposite, especially considering an admin recently threatened to block you if you didn't stop making comments like your recent comment on a certain user talk page (and, again, your comment about Beeblebrox honestly looks exactly the same, at least to my eyes). Seriously, why not just stay the heck away from the WP: namespace and write articles? I feel like I've said this to you about eight million times. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 09:25, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
By the way -- being blocked is part of being a Wikipedian, and you would be hard-pressed to find a long-term contributor with a clean block log. People who are not able to emotionally deal with being blocked are not the kond of people who should be editing Wikipedia, because it would not be fair on the rest of us if they didn't get blocked for the same behaviour that the rest of us get blocked for. Saying that such users need to "grow a pair" is essentially the same as this, and demanding that someone strike it as "ad hominem" completely misses the point. But I can't possibly understand why you are fixating on that page given how you haven't been blocked. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 09:55, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
@ Hijiri88: It should be noted that I struck a portion of your post at the RfC, you once again referred to the mentorship as mandatory while demeaning my !vote, as I have already shown to you the close was "No Consensus". I highly suggest that you read Wp:civil again and the comments that I made that caused you to end your mentorship with me. I would also request that you stop harassing/hounding me is various locations throughout Wikipedia as you have done since we first encountered each other. Endercase ( talk) 15:54, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I can't even take the essay seriously after "For a few people, being blocked is the worst punishment they've ever had in their adult life." Not only that, but it masks the damage of vandalism and disruptive editing by pulling on the heart strings of readers with this line, "This is doubly so if any of these factors apply: no warning or engagement, no proper explanation, or the block is unjustified or only arguably justified." Such blocks more than likely only happen when an editor is being extremely disruptive, and the administrator has no other choice. Our administrators understand that blocks are not meant to be punishment, but a preventative safeguard to protect Wikipedia, since anybody can edit it. Boomer Vial Holla! We gonna ball! 14:40, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Except it provides no information on how to actually deal with such blocks. All it does is pad disruptive behavior. Let's go over it.
"Wikipedia is one of the world's most popular websites. Anybody can edit it (normally). Being blocked from editing it is distressing. This is doubly so if any of these factors apply: no warning or engagement, no proper explanation, or the block is unjustified or only arguably justified."
"Of course many blocks are necessary and we're not saying they're not, but there's an emotional toll. Consider that some people, or a few people at any rate, have never been in jail (or even arrested). have never been sued. have never been suspended from school (or even had detention, or failed a class). have never been fired from a job for cause (or even called on the carpet for a serous dressing down by their boss). have never been in a physical fight (or even shouting verbal confrontation (except maybe as a schoolchild or maybe a lover's quarrel)). have never been kicked out of their house or come home to find the locks changed. We know that a lot of people have had some (or, God forbid, all) of these things happen to them, but the average person – you can call them goody-goodies if you want to – tries to follow the rules and takes sanctions by authorities very much to heart. For a few people, being blocked is the worst punishment they've ever had in their adult life. This is the first time someone has said to them "You've broken the rules, and badly, and you're in a lot of trouble here". Or one of the few times. And that certainly is the message one takes from being blocked, regardless of how we try to gild that. It's a pretty hard thing to hear, for a few people."
"We know for a lot of experienced Wikipedians (which includes all admins), "Under the spreading chestnut tree / I blocked you and you blocked me" is all part of the WP:MMORPG. But most of our editors, particularly new editors, come from a place called "real life"."
"A person, particularly a new user, on being blocked is not likely to say "Oh, well, here is part of the functioning of this site. I'll just put in this template, formatted properly, and enter litigation on this matter, all in good fun". The person is likely to be appalled, horrified, angry, sad, alarmed, and disgusted. They'll likely close the page at once and never come back (but they'll have a story about what a screwup the Wikipedia is). So whether its a new user or not, any block of any duration has a non-trivial chance of being permanent, in that the user is likely to just throw up his hands and walk away. Again, lots of blocks are necessary, and we thank our volunteer administrators for enhancing the functioning of the Wikipedia in this way. But, you know, we want to be careful here." This entire essay is basically saying that administrators should be more lenient when blocking new editors, regardless of if their behavior is disruptive, due to a risk to the editor retention rate, as well as victimizing those who are reaping what they sown as a fruit of their behavior. Boomer Vial Holla! We gonna ball! 15:29, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Wikipedia talk:Being blocked hurts. Such edits are disruptive and appear to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Chris Troutman ( talk) 16:07, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Wikipedia talk:Being blocked hurts, you may be blocked from editing. I was mistaken in removing your comments; I only saw the strikes you introduced and your edit summary didn't indicate a separate comment. That does not excuse your behavior. Chris Troutman ( talk) 16:16, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Why [2]? It seems ... well, not in keeping with community spirit. - Bri ( talk) 20:39, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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MjolnirPants: Military courts have different burdens of proof, are we closer to that? I think this encyclopedia is a society, things don't have to be fair or just but they should benefit the encyclopedia. We do need a better solution to Socks, maybe emoji recognition (South Park reff). Anyway, thank you for the discussion, I will temper my defence of peers I feel have not been given a fair shake and try preventive measures instead (as I am doing with BulbAtop (who has odd contribs)).
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If you revert again or otherwise comment at this account's Talk page, I will block you for your disruption and your disruptive attitude.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 15:02, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
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talk to me 15:42, 1 May 2017 (UTC)To prevent further disruption by your attempts at "discussion". -- NeilN talk to me 15:43, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
My most recent attempt at communication via template with an admin was ineffective. I know know that templating the regulars may result in a block (once unblocked I will leave a note at the relevant essay (or make a list) that specific regulars may not be templated without consequences (anyone may sign that (list?))). I will work on conveying my ideas about socks and COI into an essay or addendum to current policy, such that I can effectively communicate my views on the issue. To be clear I do think that socks should be regulated or blocked or banned in an effective preventive manner. It should now be obvious to all parties involved that templates are not effective communication or discussion starting tools. Endercase ( talk) 16:35, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
The sheer idiocy of comparing sockmasters to a class of people historically discriminated against leaves me breathless. @ GB fan, Bbb23, and DoRD: I will be recusing myself from taking any future admin actions with regards to this editor. -- NeilN talk to me 20:30, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
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Endercase ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log)) UTRS appeal #18181 was submitted on May 02, 2017 23:01:38. This review is now closed.
-- UTRSBot ( talk) 23:01, 2 May 2017 (UTC) @ NeilN, Bbb23, and Just Chilling: I would like to continue discussion on the above topics until I have a full understanding. But, I fear doing so would be deemed disruptive. May I archive these two discussions to help remove the temptation? Endercase ( talk) 00:01, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
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I've been looking at this WP:ANI discussion, which was closed as recently as 20 March. You were quite strongly criticized by experienced editors and admins there, and a topic ban from WP:RSN gained considerable support. It looks like you escaped sanctions for two reasons: 1) because the idea of mentoring was broached, and you yourself appeared to accept mentoring by the two people who offered, though the way it would work was left a little vague both by you and the closer of the thread, [3] and 2) because you seemed at least somewhat ready to accept responsibility for the disruption you had caused.
After the ANI thread was closed, I looked to see how you were doing, alerted by a post on User talk:MjolnirPants, which I watch. I was a little taken aback to note your passive-aggressive and condescending comment about Hijiri88 — one of your mentors at that time, no less — on Vfrickey's talkpage, in a fake 'defence' of them against Vfrickey's lengthy wikilawyering: "..I do not feel like Hijiri 88 is beyond help in these matters. If you (=Vfrickey) are able to convince them that their specific actions were harmful to the encyclopedia I am certain that they would change their behavior moving forward" [4] followed the next day by an actual attack on the same page: "You have a history of edit warring and demeaning behavior. In addition, you are also a rampant POV pusher and constantly and consistently fail to observe good faith. .. While I do appreciate you and your efforts to make me a better editor, you are kinda a wp:dick.." [5]
Having noticed these highly personal comments and others, such as an utterly irrelevant attack on Guy here, followed by MjolnirPants's reply that Guy has tons of experience and is widely respected, then followed by egregious wikilawyering by you: "So you are saying they are experts in Wikipedia (more than equals?)? I thought that was a violation of policy." Have you noticed how conversation stops when you go into that mode..? Believe me, it's not because the other person has been convinced.
I considered blocking you, specifically for talking in this way to somebody who had spent time trying to help you, but I think you may not realize how your manner affects others. Therefore I'll give you some advice instead: 1) please don't comment on other people at all (because I really don't think you have much sense for how it affects them, perhaps even when you're trying to be nice) and 2) please try to read policies for their spirit, not for finding policy fragments that prove how right you are. People will soon get tired of trying to explain things to you, simply because you make so many insensitive comments about other people, and you cherry-pick so many policies in defence of yourself. Both these approaches are fundamentally wrong. Put your listening ears on instead. If you don't, you'll end up blocked. Bishonen | talk 18:29, 27 March 2017 (UTC).
Endercase, in your long reply, you project a conviction that it's necessarily a virtue to 'speak your mind' and be frank at all times. No, it isn't. I see you constructing a theory that it's a good thing to tell people how they "come across" (to you), otherwise they're not going to improve and will end up at AN/I. But I think it's a flawed theory. "Honesty" is overrated when it comes to telling people what you think of them. I'm not asking you to be dishonest, but there's nothing dishonest about keeping your mouth shut at the right times. Speech is for communication, it's not for expressing your feelings and never mind the cost or the result or the impression it makes on the other person. Telling people they're a dick and so on doesn't communicate or help anybody to improve, it only offends. I understand you find the Wikipedia culture in this regard overly reserved ("I notice that most people here are very reserved and don't often speak their feelings"), and you want to improve that culture. You don't want to adjust to it. Now I agree with what Hijiri says just above: "Go write articles. Stop talking about changing policy and guideline pages," and I would add, stop trying to change the culture, be more open to adjusting to it. The typical somewhat cautious Wikipedia discourse, codified in policies like WP:CIV, is unlikely to change because one person behaves in the opposite way and is devastatingly frank at all times, under the banner of "Should I not speak my mind?" Please instead follow my simple advice above and don't comment on other people at all — go edit articles. Bishonen | talk 11:25, 28 March 2017 (UTC).
Thank you @Endercase!😀😀😃😄
Still finding my way around and the tips were helpful. Thank you. BulbAtop ( talk) 23:47, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
@ Endercase: Oh okay.....but you didn't answer the question though. BulbAtop ( talk) 04:13, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
...Guessing I got lost in junk mail lol? BlbAtp ( talk) 07:30, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Interwebs? BlbAtp ( talk) 21:12, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Sure. But just lemme sort a few things out first, good?
BlbAtp ( talk) 16:43, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
I just read through this section, and I want to say a few things (in order in which the things they are in response to appear):
and explain certain aspects of electricity in a manner that tends to describe some of the measured effects better than current leading methodsFrom what I've read, I'd have to disagree (admittedly, he's not my favorite crank so I haven't read all that much), and I suspect any decent physicist would, too. His writings might be much easier to conceptualize, but that doesn't mean they hold up to any scrutiny.
I wrote this before noticing your comment immediately above "I don't think the question is if it is Canvassing or not. I think it should be "Was it inappropriate canvassing?" ". Of course, I agree.-- S Philbrick (Talk) 21:32, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
Seeing this: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Perfect Orange Sphere/Archive
I'm posting here for two reasons: first, I feel you may feel vindicated as you were predicting socking while everyone else was ignoring it, and I was disagreeing with you. Second, it's a great example of the disruption socking can cause. An article was subject to a counterfactual POV shift for a year, editors were chased away from the project and projects like our formal mediation were subject to gaming and disruption. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 15:15, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
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I reverted your change, where you said People with "genetic disorders" are human too. -- Changed "Humans have x" to "The vast majority of humans have x" following wp:cycl. The list is a list of species, not of individuals. Homo Sapiens, as a species, has 46 chromosomes. This is like saying that "Zebras have stripes", which is correct for a species, and not invalidated by an example of an individual which doesn't. Tarl N. ( discuss) 05:04, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
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I haven't seen you popping up on my watchlist in a while. I've also looked through your contribs, and I have to say that I like what I see. So really, this is just me saying "Hi" and wishing you the best. :) ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 16:19, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
Other editors at Talk:PragerU have given you good advice regarding the reliability of WorldNetDaily and Breitbart. You would be wise to follow it. As you know these sources have been discussed and rejected at RSN many times, and continuing to push for their inclusion is disruptive. As for Preston Business Review, a quick scan of their homepage reveals that the site is nothing more than a collection of stories copied from other sources and attributed to Caroline Biscotti. The story in question was in fact copied from WND. Did you examine the source before advocating for its reliability? I hope you consider this and stop the disruption before it becomes necessary to pursue sanctions. – dlthewave ☎ 14:28, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
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