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I've created category merge discussions for rock single stubs and pop single stubs primarily because the two are used interchangeably with their song stub counterparts. The scheme for single stubs is not as well developed as it is for song stubs (e.g. there's no Category:Pop single stubs parent). Thanks. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 04:34, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
What exactly is an "underpopulated" stub category? I mean what is the cut-off? Currently, there are over 200 categories that are tagged as underpopulated but have more than 45 members. -- DannyS712 ( talk) 06:17, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
It was implied at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals#Proposals,_March_2019 that a stub type (template) would be renamed if its category was renamed at WP:CFD, even under the Speedy procedure.
Is that desirable in the case of templates, i.e. to rename them after just 48 hours' exposure?
If WPSS would accept that, then I'd have no objection; perhaps a new speedy renaming template could be created for the purpose. However, I would have thought that 7 days' exposure would be preferable. – Fayenatic London 20:45, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi. I'd like to make stub sorting easier by running my bot to replace stub templates with other templates when needed. What do people think of the following specific task?
Please note that stubs relating to individual glaciers and landforms should not be marked with this stub, but should be marked with {{ geo-stub}} or one of its subtypes. I see that there are 102 pages that are tagged as glaciology stubs but are also both categorized in Category:Glaciers of Ellsworth Land as individual glaciers and have another stub template that is indeed a subtype of geo-stub (Ellsworth Land geography stubs). For those pages, the glaciology-stub template would be removed
If the project supports this, and the bot is approved for these 100 edits, and all goes well, I'll list a number of other such cases that (to me) seem fairly clear cut. Thanks, -- DannyS712 ( talk) 00:46, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
A new script has been made for stub sorting: see User:SD0001/StubSorter.js ( documentation). It offers a simple approach to stub sorting by providing a HotCat-type search field to search for and add (or remove) any template from Category:Stub message templates. Any feedback on this is welcome. SD0001 ( talk) 20:37, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
Can someone take a look at
Template:XXXTentacion-stub - it has a template look of asbox
, but as far as I can tell the template syntax is normal. Thanks, --
DannyS712 (
talk) 06:47, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
#redirect [[Template:XXXTentacion-stub]]
Hello. I've found three templates that are currently populating Category:French winter sports biography stubs and a subcategory:
I was wondering why this was the case. I think the templates should be removed from the parent category as they alrady have a subcategory. Thanks! -- MrLinkinPark333 ( talk) 01:27, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
See /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_December_12#Category:Chinese_interpreter_stubs. The cat "Chinese interpreter stubs" was deleted, but none of the possible associated actions were taken. I tweaked the stub template but was reluctant to create the new cat. Do feel free to change it further. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:20, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Well...despite being told that in other Wiki realms it isn't standard practice for the same person to close a discussion who has an opinion on it, it looks as though there are too few of us stub sorters active right now to follow that guideline. If there's no objection, I will go back to closing discussions on which a consensus has been reached, regardless of whether I've participated in them. If anyone else wants to pitch in, feel free. Cheers, Her Pegship ( really?) 17:57, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi all - I'm going to head over to wherever these things are now deleted (WP:CFD?) to propose the deletion of {{ Korea-museum-stub}}. We have separate templates for both North and South Korea, and understandably no articles now use the combined template. I'm also wondering what others think about deleting Category:Korean museum stubs - it simply a South Korean subcat and six articles on North Korean museums, which could easily be moved back into the (not overpopulated) Asian parent. Grutness... wha? 10:52, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
Template:Lepidoptera-stub is a non-standardised stub template (doesn't use {{
asbox}}) and there is only one page in the category. However, it has 3 subcats. The doc at
Category:Insect stubs doesn't mention this category or template, rather it says "for order Lepidoptera, please see the numerous tags available under:
Category:Butterfly stubs,
Category:Moth stubs
". Should this template be deleted?
SD0001 (
talk) 14:54, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
{{
moth-stub}}
instead, the template can go. The cat page could be given a notice asking people to use the most relevant subcategory. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 15:47, 8 October 2019 (UTC)Has anyone looked at Category:North American protected area stubs? I am not an expert on geography but I question articles included like Riscos de Momostenango in Guatemala which is still listed as being in Central America. The sub-categories Category:Costa Rican protected area stubs and Category:Nicaraguan protected area stubs could cause some wonderment also. Maybe I have just missed something. Otr500 ( talk) 23:12, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
I've just found Category:Buddhist mythology stubs and the associated {{ Buddhist-myth-stub}}, but cannot find where this was either proposed or approved. Certainly there's nothing at WP:WSS/P. They were created by Invokingvajras ( talk · contribs). The category is inside itself, which is very bad practice. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 20:29, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Trying to stub-sort 2019 Azadi march I wanted a stub-type for "Pakistan politics". There is none, but Category:Asia politics stubs is a parent-only category.
I've never really got my head around creating new stub templates etc - could someone suggest what to do in this situation, where a lot of "Asia politics" doesn't seem to have an appropriate stub template? Thanks. Several other countries, such as India and China also seem to be missing. Pam D 14:02, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
So why do we need this? I just got in to a silly editing tête-à-tête with
Bearcat over why a big yellow warning banner is needed on a page to complain it has not been added to any categories
even though it literally was in a category. And it was in a category that was already a child category of where I stuck it to get rid of this banner. Here is the example article:
Newspaper bag. —
xaosflux
Talk 00:21, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Categories: Newspaper stubs- an actual category that is browsable and otherwise incorporated in to our category system. — xaosflux Talk 00:37, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
But why do we have the {{ uncategorised stub}} template? An uncategorised stub article needs {{ stub}}, which will be replaced by a {{ Foo-stub}} once stub-sorted, and {{ uncategorised}}. There seems no point in this particular template. Pam D 00:43, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Regardless of the discussion above, I have nominated Template:Uncategorized and Template:Uncategorized stub for TFM. Feel free to see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 January 17#Template:Uncategorized. -- Izno ( talk) 14:39, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
...is a bit over populated. I was going to try and take a crack at the backlog, but I wanted to see how it was filled first.
I suggest that the category be split into 4: oversized / no permcats / no stub tag / undersized. Since it just requires a few edits to Template:Stub category, I don't think a full CfD is needed. Thoughts? -- DannyS712 ( talk) 02:16, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
I haven't read long discussions, but why there is two blank lines, instead of logical one blank line? Extract from Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting#Stub_sorting_methods:
The guideline Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout § Standard appendices and footers states that any stub tags should be placed at the very bottom of the article, after all other templates and categories. Two blank lines should be left between the first stub tag and whatever precedes it.
-- Estopedist1 ( talk) 12:12, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Noted in (somewhat) more detail at
WT:CFD but I created {{
sfd-t2}} and {{
sfr-t2}} for stub template nomination discussions, thought folks here might be interested. Also added a |stub=yes
parameter to {{
cfd-notify}} that changes some of the messages and links so this it be used for stub template nomination notifications. ~ Amory (
u •
t •
c) 16:11, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
There is now a bot SDZeroBot ( talk · contribs) for consolidating multiple stub tags on pages into a single tag, wherever possible. See BRFA and edits. Any feedback on potential expansion is welcome. SD0001 ( talk) 13:23, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
Noting that I have edited Template:Parent-only stub category so that it uses Category:Stub categories needing attention for tracking parent-only stub cats with a |newstub= parameter (sortkey N) and ones without a |category= parameter (sortkey Q). Until now, the same tracking was being done via hidden links to Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Tracker for parent stub categories with stub tag and Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Tracker for stub categories with no permcats. The hidden links have been retained for now, but can be removed later.
Something similar was done for {{ Stub category}} (which also historically used to use hidden links) in 2011 ( diff) SD0001 ( talk) 10:13, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
A while back, there was a tool created by User:Danski454 that would provide a dropdown menu from which one could choose a stub type to apply to an article (see discussion here). I've been re-sorting Nepal geography stubs and it's tedious as hell, and this tool would be useful, BUT none of the Nepal geo stub types show up in the search. I posted a note on Danski454's talk page and haven't heard back yet, but has anyone else had this problem? I don't know where the tool gets its list of stub types - maybe that's the issue - any suggestions? Her Pegship ( I'm listening) 18:27, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Geography stubs are on a separate page; maybe that's the issue. I'll try the script you mention. Thanks, Her Pegship ( I'm listening) 16:54, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Hey folks - I stumbled across {{ COVID-19-stub}} / Category:COVID-19 stubs while perusing CfD; this was created out of process, and seems to have been applied to many articles whose main subject is not coronavirus. As the stub type is listed as an option at the COVID-19 WikiProject, I left a note there and invited them to come here to discuss it. Any thoughts? Her Pegship ( I'm listening) 02:31, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion#How are/should be stub template merges be handled? -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 18:18, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
I've noticed recently that any stub category of any size, at least as far as I've looked, now has one of those Automatic Category TOCs. So any stub category with 100 or more items will have a table of contents (even though up to 200 items listed will go on one page).
Do I gather correctly that this feature has now somehow been added to the template for creating stubs? I don't see the code for setting up these TOCs on any stub page I've looked at.
I kind of feel that any category, stub or otherwise, that fits onto one page doesn't need a TOC. But that's my opinion, and apparently there are people who think differently.
But with stubs there is a problem about that with a certain group of categories. These are categories in which every entry begins with the same letter. In non-stub categories, there are ways to get around that; these ways are not available (as far as I can tell) for stub categories.
And there are a lot of them. One huge class of them is categories of species in a particular genus. Every article in the category will begin with the genus name--the first part of the two-part "scientific name." There's a way around it in non-stub categories; you give each category link a "sortkey" for the species name--the second part of the two-part "scientific name." Then the category lists them under letter headings for those species names.
Take, for example, the one I'm working on now--the 600 article in the category for moths of a genus called Dichomeris. Look at the non-stub category page, and you'll see that the species Dichomeris abscessella is under A; Dichomeris baccata is under B; Dichomeris cachrydias is under C--and so on. I've been putting them that way; when I finish, the whole category will be that way. But the stub category has every entry but one under the letter D. So that's where the TOC directs.
Uporządnicki (
talk) 21:51, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Effect | Pages | % |
---|---|---|
No TOC | 591,230 | 87.66% |
Standard {{ Category TOC}} | 72,646 | 10.77% |
{{ Large category TOC}} | 10,572 | 1.57% |
Total | 674,448 | |
Thanks to @ Redrose64 for the links and the ping, and to PamD for explaining things well. There are currently over 15,000 stub categories. Instead of TOCs having to be added and removed manually as stub categories change size, the use of {{ CatAutoTOC}} means that a TOC is now generated automatically if the category meets the size thresholds set out at {{ CatAutoTOC}}. Unfortunately there are a few edge cases like this where the TOC adds little benefit (tho not, as PamD points out, zero benefit) ... but it does no harm. This is the first such case that I am aware of, out of just over 49,000 categories where CatAutoTOC generates a TOC. There may be a few more, but I think that the benefit to the other categories outweighs the issues here.
If Her Pegship has concerns or thoughts about the way that CatAutoTOC works, those would be best discussed at Template talk:CatAutoTOC, to keep discussion centralised. One of those issues is the size thresholds used by CatAutoTOC. I chose those thresholds myself based on my estimation of current practice, but as User:AzseicsoK noted above, there are inevitably differing views.
Briefly, my rationale for setting the threshold for a TOC at >100 pages in a category is that
But if editors hold to a different view, please take it to Template talk:CatAutoTOC, where we can collaborate on setting up an RFC.
Hope this helps -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 09:22, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
I've just found
Category:Malaysia mass media stubs which was created by
TheImaCow (
talk ·
contribs) on 29 April 2020; it contains a stub template, {{
Malaysia-tv-stub}}
which is used on only one article, and was itself created by
Fandi89 (
talk ·
contribs) on 27 April 2020. I cannot find any evidence that either was proposed at
WP:WSS/P, let alone approved. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 17:16, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
{{
Malaysia-tv-stub}}
to use that, which will make
Category:Malaysia mass media stubs empty and thus eligible for
WP:C1 next Thursday. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 18:37, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
In my opinion, the icon for the stub {{
Japan-crime-stub}}
, is kinda morbid and distasteful. I suggest we replace it with the more traditional-to-crime-related-stubs, the Handcuffs. All in favour?
WikiMacaroons (
talk) 14:04, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
|image=Crime.svg
parameter. I suggest that you blank out the |pix=30
at the same time. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 15:56, 17 May 2020 (UTC)Howdy all - I just came across {{ State of Palestine-stub}} and am pondering how to address several issues with it. Maybe you can give me some suggestions. In the beginning, we had {{ Palestine-stub}} / Category:Palestine stubs, and although there was some concern over the cope of the category, no consensus was reached, so it remained.
In 2017, {{ State of Palestine-stub}} and Category:State of Palestine stubs were created by Greyshark09. Category:State of Palestine stubs was later redirected to the original Category:Palestine stubs and the template was (I think) redirected to {{ Palestine-stub}}. Now I find that Greyshark09 ( talk · contribs) has reversed the redirect, so that {{ Palestine-stub}} redirects to {{ State of Palestine-stub}}, which sorts articles into Category:Palestine stubs.
My take: {{ Palestine-stub}} should be restored as the main template for Category:Palestine stubs. If {{ State of Palestine-stub}} is kept, it should be renamed {{ StateofPalestine-stub}} and should be upmerged to Category:Palestine stubs. {{ Palestine-stub}} should be restored as the main template for Category:Palestine stubs. I just don't know where to take the discussion - TfD? CfD? RfD?? Any ideas? Thanks for reading. Her Pegship ( I'm listening) 21:11, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Is there a way to find the oldest stubs? I want to volunteer to expand very old stubs. Aditya( talk • contribs) 11:42, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Shouldn't {{ YouTubers-bio-stub}} be {{ YouTuber-stub}} (that latter one is a redirect)? We use singulars, and "bio" is redundant. Alternatively it could be {{ YouTube-bio-stub}}? The category is Category:YouTubers stubs, which should probably be Category:YouTuber stubs? The stub template and category were both created in 2017 by CAPTAIN RAJU. Pam D 17:52, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I have a TfD going on about Template:Underpopulated stub category at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2020_July_22#Template:Underpopulated_stub_category. It has received insufficient participation, however, so it is likely to be relisted. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 22:35, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Template:DodaJK-geo-stub, created in evident good faith by a fairly new editor without going through the proposal process, needs some attention. If it's to be kept, it needs a rename, and it needs the giant copyrighted image removed from the template. It's being added to many rapidly created stubs about locations in Doda district in Jammu and Kashmir. Thanks, 2A01:4B00:8E02:4100:4CC0:22D0:2CEA:2877 ( talk) 05:46, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Maybe I missed something, but until I saw it in the Spotlight I didn't know about the discussion at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Get_rid_of_stub_tags which began on 21 June. I hope the rest of you did. Pam D 18:39, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Pre-existing template:geodesy-stub was mis-categorized under category:cartography stubs; I've corrected that for category:geodesy stubs -- do you what bot could populate the correct category now? thanks! fgnievinski ( talk) 01:04, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
Should the article be tagged with {{ WesternCape-geo-stub}}, {{ Religious-struct-stub}}, or {{ SouthAfrica-church-stub}}? Thank you for your time. Opalzukor ( talk) 11:17, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi folks - A while back, Category:Underpopulated stub categories was discussed and emptied in favor of using Category:Stub categories needing attention, which is separated into sections for under-, over-, or specifically-populated stub categories. I propose that Category:Overpopulated stub categories undergo the same emptying and CfD, for the same reasons. Thoughts? Her Pegship ( ?) 17:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
I had an RfC to determine what the minimum size should be for stub categories, but it was closed prematurely by a bot due to inactivity. See Wikipedia talk:Stub/Archive 14#RfC: Minimum size for stub categories. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:00, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
{{
rfc}}
tag is removed. In this case, 19:54, 29 July 2020 (UTC) plus thirty days is 19:54, 28 August 2020 (UTC) - the tag was removed at 20:01, 28 August 2020 (UTC), that is, when the RfC was 30 days and 7 minutes old. All this is covered at
WP:RFC#Duration. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 00:01, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi folks - I've been scrolling through Stub categories needing attention - Stub categories which are potentially undersized and I see several categories where there are over 70 articles in them, but they're still in the "potentially undersized" category. I went through the source code, stub templates, everything I could think of, but I cannot tell why these categories are there. There's no {{ popstub}} template (any more). An example is Category:1993 country song stubs, which holds 126 articles and yet shows up in the "potentially undersized" category. Does anyone know (a) why/how these stub cats are marked potentially undersized, and (b) how to remove them from the inaccurate "needing attention" category?? Her Pegship ( ?) 00:03, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
{{PAGESINCATEGORY:{{PAGENAME}}|R}}
(which is part of the {{
Stub Category}}
template used on that page) is returning 0 but should return 74. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 16:25, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Proposed merge is over at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2020_October_28#Template:Sfp_create. Her Pegship ( ?) 18:10, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
{{sfp create}}
and several other templates used in closing discussions will be deleted in favor of {{sfp top|result}}
; {{sfp bottom}}
will still be used at the bottom of each discussion. Just FYI.
Her Pegship (
?) 20:04, 22 November 2020 (UTC)Hi folks! Just a friendly reminder: when you create a template and/or category, please remember to add it to the list of stub types. Thanks. Her Pegship ( ?) 17:42, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Per this, the Valdez-Cordova Census Area ceased to exist almost two years ago. From looking at the affected content, we have someone who showed up at a bunch of articles to insert empty authority control templates while leaving this more substantial bit of work for someone else to do. Still other editors have attempted to revert the efforts of others who were trying to do something about correcting this. Seeing that, I've taken the initiative to properly split content reflecting the two new census areas. I'm not really interested in doing all the work, or at the very least am only interested in doing it as my time will allow, and I've already given up enough time on this to where I'm falling behind with other off-wiki and real-life activities. If you're looking for something to do, any help would be appreciated to complete this. Thank you. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 23:07, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Discussion currently underway at Templates for discussion, as to whether to delete {{ ProvinceofCanada-politician-stub}}. I believe there was discussion in August 2020 about creating upmerged templates for {{ UpperCanada-MPP-stub}} and {{ ProvinceofCanada-MPP-stub}} and that the creator of the templates nominated for deletion misunderstood the conclusions made. Anyway, if you'd like to weigh in, feel free. Her Pegship ( ?) 21:19, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Hello. I notice that France-archery-bio-stub and France-badminton-bio-stub are in Category:French sportspeople stubs but already have subcategories. These subcategories are Category:French archery biography stubs and Category:French badminton biography stubs. I was wondering why these templates are in the sportspeople stub category while they already have a subcategory. Thanks! -- MrLinkinPark333 ( talk) 20:46, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi. I created Category:South African soccer defender stubs, Category:South African soccer midfielder stubs and Category:South African soccer forward stubs a few months back but without coming through here first (sorry!). Would anyone mind sorting these out for me? Microwave Anarchist ( talk) 17:32, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:IndigenousAustralia-stub , which is about a template that is within the scope of this WikiProject. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:48, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello. Do you guys have a tips page/training guide somewhere for someone adding stubs to articles? Max number of stubs per article? Most common categories? Most common stub mistakes? Thank you. – Novem Linguae ( talk) 22:58, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
A stub category should be split manually, after this discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:09, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
I've found
Template:Veganism-and-Vegetarianism-stub, which was created at 20:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC) by
Throughthemind (
talk ·
contribs) without (so far as I can tell) first being proposed at
WP:WSS/P. It uses |category=Stub-Class Veganism and Vegetarianism articles
which is a misuse of that parameter. My problem is that I can't work out what a suitable category should be. Any ideas? Or maybe we should simply
WP:TFD the template since it is used on only one article. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 22:51, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
What stub type would International Chernobyl Disaster Remembrance Day fit? Not a {{ festival-stub}} nor a {{ tradition-stub}} nor a {{ holiday-stub}}, and we don't have a {{ day-stub}} or an {{ observance-stub}}. I've come across this before, for named days which are not celebratory but are commemorative or awareness-raising, and are not an actual holiday, nor long-enough established to feel like a "tradition". I see Carl Garner Federal Lands Cleanup Day has {{ festival-stub}} and World Keratoconus Day has {{ tradition-stub}} while UN French Language Day has {{ holiday-stub}}, none of which seem particularly appropriate. Pam D 18:02, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
This is related to the discussion here. Mjquinn_id has created {{ Tennis-GrandSlam-stub}} and Category:Grand Slam competition stubs without checking with anyone here as to its usefulness or implementation. There are currently 8 articles tagged thusly, and as there is a TOC by decade on the cat page, I assume that Mjquinn_id intends to fill the category. While the creator embraces WP:BOLD, I think that a proposal here at WPSS would have been in order. My question is, should I put a WPSS banner on the category even though it was not proposed/approved by WPSS? Tagging @ Mjquinn id: for their information. Her Pegship ( ?) 19:42, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
I do not believe this is a stub anymore. Please check and critique when convenient. Thanks Tillywilly17 ( talk) 00:59, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
PS This is not a 1943 song.
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) § Why do we customize appearance of stub tags by topic?. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 00:25, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi folks - I posted this a while ago on the talk page for Category:Stub categories needing attention, but I thought I'd ask again here in case no one has seen it:
I don't know how to make a sub-category land under a letter representing one of the conditions noted in the category header (N, O, P, Q, S, U) rather than appearing under its name in the general category. For example, Category:Central Province, Sri Lanka geography stubs shows up under "C" instead of "O" (for Oversized). Can someone tell me the code for changing the order? Her Pegship (?) 5:17 pm, 26 September 2021, Sunday (2 months, 10 days ago) (UTC−7)
Any advice? Her Pegship ( ?) 02:22, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
[[Category:Stub categories needing attention<noinclude>| </noinclude>]]
[[Category:Stub categories needing attention|<includeonly>O</includeonly><noinclude> </noinclude>]]
See Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Layout#Template:Improve categories. Pam D 09:29, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
FYI Template:Sfr-r ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (stub-type category redirect proposed for renaming) template has been proposed to be deleted -- 65.92.246.142 ( talk) 15:48, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
I've found Template:US-physiologist-stub and Category:American physiologist stub. They were both created on 23 February 2022 by Joaquin89uy ( talk · contribs), and neither was proposed (let alone approved) at WP:WSS/P. We don't even have a category or stub template for physiologists in general (let alone any other country-specific ones), and the number of articles using them (4) is well short of the 60 threshold for approval, so shall we send them for deletion? -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 23:03, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
{{
US-physiologist-stub}}
becomes doubtful.{{
US-med-bio-stub}}
, and also
Category:American biologist stubs (which you have already noticed) with its associated {{
US-biologist-stub}}
. If you cannot find another 56 stub articles about American physiologists, then surely your four articles would be better placed in one or both of those two existing stub categories, by replacing the {{
US-physiologist-stub}}
with either or both of the stub templates that I mention. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 13:54, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
There *is* a category "American physiologists" but there is no *stub category* for any kind of physiologist, which would normally be a precursor to "American physiologist stubs". Her Pegship ( ?) 18:49, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
This is now at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 April 2#Template:US-physiologist-stub. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 09:40, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 70#Stub template lacking an image
There appears to be an issue with the images of a few stub templates, and I can't seem to wrap my mind around what may be the issue. Can anyone figure this out? Curbon7 ( talk) 23:30, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
)and turns it into something like
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{ cite web}}, {{ cite journal}} and {{ doi}}.
The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.
This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
I am having problems with Eluru-geo-stub / its category Category:Eluru district geography stubs. This does not display correctly on article pages and does not collect anything in its category. Yet it looks the same as other stubs that do work. Ideas/corrections? Thanks. Hmains ( talk) 18:33, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
I have just finished emptying a stub category, Olivellidae, completely, except for the stub template. It had been a biological family of sea snails. But there were changes made to the classification, and I moved all the articles to other stub categories. The stub template and category are no longer needed. How do we delete them? Uporządnicki ( talk) 13:28, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Hey everyone. There are around 830 unused (non-redirect) stub templates which you can see here Wikipedia:Database reports/Unused templates/2 (starting at 1453) and Wikipedia:Database reports/Unused templates/3. Wikipedia:Stub#Guidelines recommends a minimum of 60 pages for new templates, but is quite about existing templates. As I'm sure you project has more knowledge in this area than I do, can you please take a look at these and see if these are still needed or if they can be sent to TfD/CfD? Gonnym ( talk) 08:58, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
{{ US-novelist-20thC-stub}}, created today, puts articles into a parent-only category; see Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2023_January_11#Template:US-novelist-20thC-stub. Pam D 23:22, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
I would like to propose a template for historical Prussian districts, there are some Prussian district articles and at wiki project Prussia we plan to create more so it would be helpful to have a template Crainsaw ( talk) 18:47, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
I am proposing a new stub for the Framework For Success In Post Secondary Writing. This document is highly influential and created from all different perspectives. While it is not extensive enough to be an actual article I am proposing a stub Yeahhidk ( talk) 21:53, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
I notice that there have been more and more articles tagged with {{
stub}}
which have to do with current events - for example,
Parachinar school shooting and
Assassination of Girma Yeshitila (which has been redirected already). Typically there are not many details about the incident described, thus it gets marked as a stub article. Is there consensus on how these should be tagged? Should they get a stub tag, and if so, should they be tagged with the country/sport/medium in which the event occurs? Or is there another template/notice that will bring it to the attention of editors who deal with current events? Any advice? Thanks in advance -
Her Pegship (
?) 20:48, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
I notice that User:Fadesga has been very active in creating stub categories since June 2022 [3] but I can find no record that any of these categories went through the stub sorting proposal procedure that the stub category banner says all stub categories must go through. Is there some other channel for stub category creation that I am missing? Or have all of these stub categories been created out-of-process? — David Eppstein ( talk) 00:48, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
I was browsing some old stub categories I've worked with before and I noticed that User:Joeykai had created two stub categories in July 2022 ( Category:English MPs 1529–1536 stubs, Category:English MPs 1563–1567 stubs) that I had either thought about proposing or had proposed in the past as part of dealing with the very large categories, but that I don't recall if it was approved. They were appropriately sized, but it struck me as a bit weird so I checked a bit further and didn't see any stub proposal discussions, nor were they listed in the List of Stub Types. I did a search [4], and here's a smattering of other stub categories I saw that this user created, but which I couldn't find on the List of Stub Types:
Can someone double check if these are legit? I tried to use petscan to get a feel for all the stub categories the user created but I didn't know how to filter on user. Furicorn ( talk) 13:06, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 15 | Archive 16 | Archive 17 | Archive 18 |
I've created category merge discussions for rock single stubs and pop single stubs primarily because the two are used interchangeably with their song stub counterparts. The scheme for single stubs is not as well developed as it is for song stubs (e.g. there's no Category:Pop single stubs parent). Thanks. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 04:34, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
What exactly is an "underpopulated" stub category? I mean what is the cut-off? Currently, there are over 200 categories that are tagged as underpopulated but have more than 45 members. -- DannyS712 ( talk) 06:17, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
It was implied at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals#Proposals,_March_2019 that a stub type (template) would be renamed if its category was renamed at WP:CFD, even under the Speedy procedure.
Is that desirable in the case of templates, i.e. to rename them after just 48 hours' exposure?
If WPSS would accept that, then I'd have no objection; perhaps a new speedy renaming template could be created for the purpose. However, I would have thought that 7 days' exposure would be preferable. – Fayenatic London 20:45, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi. I'd like to make stub sorting easier by running my bot to replace stub templates with other templates when needed. What do people think of the following specific task?
Please note that stubs relating to individual glaciers and landforms should not be marked with this stub, but should be marked with {{ geo-stub}} or one of its subtypes. I see that there are 102 pages that are tagged as glaciology stubs but are also both categorized in Category:Glaciers of Ellsworth Land as individual glaciers and have another stub template that is indeed a subtype of geo-stub (Ellsworth Land geography stubs). For those pages, the glaciology-stub template would be removed
If the project supports this, and the bot is approved for these 100 edits, and all goes well, I'll list a number of other such cases that (to me) seem fairly clear cut. Thanks, -- DannyS712 ( talk) 00:46, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
A new script has been made for stub sorting: see User:SD0001/StubSorter.js ( documentation). It offers a simple approach to stub sorting by providing a HotCat-type search field to search for and add (or remove) any template from Category:Stub message templates. Any feedback on this is welcome. SD0001 ( talk) 20:37, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
Can someone take a look at
Template:XXXTentacion-stub - it has a template look of asbox
, but as far as I can tell the template syntax is normal. Thanks, --
DannyS712 (
talk) 06:47, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
#redirect [[Template:XXXTentacion-stub]]
Hello. I've found three templates that are currently populating Category:French winter sports biography stubs and a subcategory:
I was wondering why this was the case. I think the templates should be removed from the parent category as they alrady have a subcategory. Thanks! -- MrLinkinPark333 ( talk) 01:27, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
See /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_December_12#Category:Chinese_interpreter_stubs. The cat "Chinese interpreter stubs" was deleted, but none of the possible associated actions were taken. I tweaked the stub template but was reluctant to create the new cat. Do feel free to change it further. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:20, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Well...despite being told that in other Wiki realms it isn't standard practice for the same person to close a discussion who has an opinion on it, it looks as though there are too few of us stub sorters active right now to follow that guideline. If there's no objection, I will go back to closing discussions on which a consensus has been reached, regardless of whether I've participated in them. If anyone else wants to pitch in, feel free. Cheers, Her Pegship ( really?) 17:57, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi all - I'm going to head over to wherever these things are now deleted (WP:CFD?) to propose the deletion of {{ Korea-museum-stub}}. We have separate templates for both North and South Korea, and understandably no articles now use the combined template. I'm also wondering what others think about deleting Category:Korean museum stubs - it simply a South Korean subcat and six articles on North Korean museums, which could easily be moved back into the (not overpopulated) Asian parent. Grutness... wha? 10:52, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
Template:Lepidoptera-stub is a non-standardised stub template (doesn't use {{
asbox}}) and there is only one page in the category. However, it has 3 subcats. The doc at
Category:Insect stubs doesn't mention this category or template, rather it says "for order Lepidoptera, please see the numerous tags available under:
Category:Butterfly stubs,
Category:Moth stubs
". Should this template be deleted?
SD0001 (
talk) 14:54, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
{{
moth-stub}}
instead, the template can go. The cat page could be given a notice asking people to use the most relevant subcategory. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 15:47, 8 October 2019 (UTC)Has anyone looked at Category:North American protected area stubs? I am not an expert on geography but I question articles included like Riscos de Momostenango in Guatemala which is still listed as being in Central America. The sub-categories Category:Costa Rican protected area stubs and Category:Nicaraguan protected area stubs could cause some wonderment also. Maybe I have just missed something. Otr500 ( talk) 23:12, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
I've just found Category:Buddhist mythology stubs and the associated {{ Buddhist-myth-stub}}, but cannot find where this was either proposed or approved. Certainly there's nothing at WP:WSS/P. They were created by Invokingvajras ( talk · contribs). The category is inside itself, which is very bad practice. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 20:29, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Trying to stub-sort 2019 Azadi march I wanted a stub-type for "Pakistan politics". There is none, but Category:Asia politics stubs is a parent-only category.
I've never really got my head around creating new stub templates etc - could someone suggest what to do in this situation, where a lot of "Asia politics" doesn't seem to have an appropriate stub template? Thanks. Several other countries, such as India and China also seem to be missing. Pam D 14:02, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
So why do we need this? I just got in to a silly editing tête-à-tête with
Bearcat over why a big yellow warning banner is needed on a page to complain it has not been added to any categories
even though it literally was in a category. And it was in a category that was already a child category of where I stuck it to get rid of this banner. Here is the example article:
Newspaper bag. —
xaosflux
Talk 00:21, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Categories: Newspaper stubs- an actual category that is browsable and otherwise incorporated in to our category system. — xaosflux Talk 00:37, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
But why do we have the {{ uncategorised stub}} template? An uncategorised stub article needs {{ stub}}, which will be replaced by a {{ Foo-stub}} once stub-sorted, and {{ uncategorised}}. There seems no point in this particular template. Pam D 00:43, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Regardless of the discussion above, I have nominated Template:Uncategorized and Template:Uncategorized stub for TFM. Feel free to see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 January 17#Template:Uncategorized. -- Izno ( talk) 14:39, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
...is a bit over populated. I was going to try and take a crack at the backlog, but I wanted to see how it was filled first.
I suggest that the category be split into 4: oversized / no permcats / no stub tag / undersized. Since it just requires a few edits to Template:Stub category, I don't think a full CfD is needed. Thoughts? -- DannyS712 ( talk) 02:16, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
I haven't read long discussions, but why there is two blank lines, instead of logical one blank line? Extract from Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting#Stub_sorting_methods:
The guideline Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout § Standard appendices and footers states that any stub tags should be placed at the very bottom of the article, after all other templates and categories. Two blank lines should be left between the first stub tag and whatever precedes it.
-- Estopedist1 ( talk) 12:12, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Noted in (somewhat) more detail at
WT:CFD but I created {{
sfd-t2}} and {{
sfr-t2}} for stub template nomination discussions, thought folks here might be interested. Also added a |stub=yes
parameter to {{
cfd-notify}} that changes some of the messages and links so this it be used for stub template nomination notifications. ~ Amory (
u •
t •
c) 16:11, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
There is now a bot SDZeroBot ( talk · contribs) for consolidating multiple stub tags on pages into a single tag, wherever possible. See BRFA and edits. Any feedback on potential expansion is welcome. SD0001 ( talk) 13:23, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
Noting that I have edited Template:Parent-only stub category so that it uses Category:Stub categories needing attention for tracking parent-only stub cats with a |newstub= parameter (sortkey N) and ones without a |category= parameter (sortkey Q). Until now, the same tracking was being done via hidden links to Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Tracker for parent stub categories with stub tag and Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Tracker for stub categories with no permcats. The hidden links have been retained for now, but can be removed later.
Something similar was done for {{ Stub category}} (which also historically used to use hidden links) in 2011 ( diff) SD0001 ( talk) 10:13, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
A while back, there was a tool created by User:Danski454 that would provide a dropdown menu from which one could choose a stub type to apply to an article (see discussion here). I've been re-sorting Nepal geography stubs and it's tedious as hell, and this tool would be useful, BUT none of the Nepal geo stub types show up in the search. I posted a note on Danski454's talk page and haven't heard back yet, but has anyone else had this problem? I don't know where the tool gets its list of stub types - maybe that's the issue - any suggestions? Her Pegship ( I'm listening) 18:27, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Geography stubs are on a separate page; maybe that's the issue. I'll try the script you mention. Thanks, Her Pegship ( I'm listening) 16:54, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Hey folks - I stumbled across {{ COVID-19-stub}} / Category:COVID-19 stubs while perusing CfD; this was created out of process, and seems to have been applied to many articles whose main subject is not coronavirus. As the stub type is listed as an option at the COVID-19 WikiProject, I left a note there and invited them to come here to discuss it. Any thoughts? Her Pegship ( I'm listening) 02:31, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion#How are/should be stub template merges be handled? -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 18:18, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
I've noticed recently that any stub category of any size, at least as far as I've looked, now has one of those Automatic Category TOCs. So any stub category with 100 or more items will have a table of contents (even though up to 200 items listed will go on one page).
Do I gather correctly that this feature has now somehow been added to the template for creating stubs? I don't see the code for setting up these TOCs on any stub page I've looked at.
I kind of feel that any category, stub or otherwise, that fits onto one page doesn't need a TOC. But that's my opinion, and apparently there are people who think differently.
But with stubs there is a problem about that with a certain group of categories. These are categories in which every entry begins with the same letter. In non-stub categories, there are ways to get around that; these ways are not available (as far as I can tell) for stub categories.
And there are a lot of them. One huge class of them is categories of species in a particular genus. Every article in the category will begin with the genus name--the first part of the two-part "scientific name." There's a way around it in non-stub categories; you give each category link a "sortkey" for the species name--the second part of the two-part "scientific name." Then the category lists them under letter headings for those species names.
Take, for example, the one I'm working on now--the 600 article in the category for moths of a genus called Dichomeris. Look at the non-stub category page, and you'll see that the species Dichomeris abscessella is under A; Dichomeris baccata is under B; Dichomeris cachrydias is under C--and so on. I've been putting them that way; when I finish, the whole category will be that way. But the stub category has every entry but one under the letter D. So that's where the TOC directs.
Uporządnicki (
talk) 21:51, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Effect | Pages | % |
---|---|---|
No TOC | 591,230 | 87.66% |
Standard {{ Category TOC}} | 72,646 | 10.77% |
{{ Large category TOC}} | 10,572 | 1.57% |
Total | 674,448 | |
Thanks to @ Redrose64 for the links and the ping, and to PamD for explaining things well. There are currently over 15,000 stub categories. Instead of TOCs having to be added and removed manually as stub categories change size, the use of {{ CatAutoTOC}} means that a TOC is now generated automatically if the category meets the size thresholds set out at {{ CatAutoTOC}}. Unfortunately there are a few edge cases like this where the TOC adds little benefit (tho not, as PamD points out, zero benefit) ... but it does no harm. This is the first such case that I am aware of, out of just over 49,000 categories where CatAutoTOC generates a TOC. There may be a few more, but I think that the benefit to the other categories outweighs the issues here.
If Her Pegship has concerns or thoughts about the way that CatAutoTOC works, those would be best discussed at Template talk:CatAutoTOC, to keep discussion centralised. One of those issues is the size thresholds used by CatAutoTOC. I chose those thresholds myself based on my estimation of current practice, but as User:AzseicsoK noted above, there are inevitably differing views.
Briefly, my rationale for setting the threshold for a TOC at >100 pages in a category is that
But if editors hold to a different view, please take it to Template talk:CatAutoTOC, where we can collaborate on setting up an RFC.
Hope this helps -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 09:22, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
I've just found
Category:Malaysia mass media stubs which was created by
TheImaCow (
talk ·
contribs) on 29 April 2020; it contains a stub template, {{
Malaysia-tv-stub}}
which is used on only one article, and was itself created by
Fandi89 (
talk ·
contribs) on 27 April 2020. I cannot find any evidence that either was proposed at
WP:WSS/P, let alone approved. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 17:16, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
{{
Malaysia-tv-stub}}
to use that, which will make
Category:Malaysia mass media stubs empty and thus eligible for
WP:C1 next Thursday. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 18:37, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
In my opinion, the icon for the stub {{
Japan-crime-stub}}
, is kinda morbid and distasteful. I suggest we replace it with the more traditional-to-crime-related-stubs, the Handcuffs. All in favour?
WikiMacaroons (
talk) 14:04, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
|image=Crime.svg
parameter. I suggest that you blank out the |pix=30
at the same time. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 15:56, 17 May 2020 (UTC)Howdy all - I just came across {{ State of Palestine-stub}} and am pondering how to address several issues with it. Maybe you can give me some suggestions. In the beginning, we had {{ Palestine-stub}} / Category:Palestine stubs, and although there was some concern over the cope of the category, no consensus was reached, so it remained.
In 2017, {{ State of Palestine-stub}} and Category:State of Palestine stubs were created by Greyshark09. Category:State of Palestine stubs was later redirected to the original Category:Palestine stubs and the template was (I think) redirected to {{ Palestine-stub}}. Now I find that Greyshark09 ( talk · contribs) has reversed the redirect, so that {{ Palestine-stub}} redirects to {{ State of Palestine-stub}}, which sorts articles into Category:Palestine stubs.
My take: {{ Palestine-stub}} should be restored as the main template for Category:Palestine stubs. If {{ State of Palestine-stub}} is kept, it should be renamed {{ StateofPalestine-stub}} and should be upmerged to Category:Palestine stubs. {{ Palestine-stub}} should be restored as the main template for Category:Palestine stubs. I just don't know where to take the discussion - TfD? CfD? RfD?? Any ideas? Thanks for reading. Her Pegship ( I'm listening) 21:11, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Is there a way to find the oldest stubs? I want to volunteer to expand very old stubs. Aditya( talk • contribs) 11:42, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Shouldn't {{ YouTubers-bio-stub}} be {{ YouTuber-stub}} (that latter one is a redirect)? We use singulars, and "bio" is redundant. Alternatively it could be {{ YouTube-bio-stub}}? The category is Category:YouTubers stubs, which should probably be Category:YouTuber stubs? The stub template and category were both created in 2017 by CAPTAIN RAJU. Pam D 17:52, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I have a TfD going on about Template:Underpopulated stub category at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2020_July_22#Template:Underpopulated_stub_category. It has received insufficient participation, however, so it is likely to be relisted. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 22:35, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Template:DodaJK-geo-stub, created in evident good faith by a fairly new editor without going through the proposal process, needs some attention. If it's to be kept, it needs a rename, and it needs the giant copyrighted image removed from the template. It's being added to many rapidly created stubs about locations in Doda district in Jammu and Kashmir. Thanks, 2A01:4B00:8E02:4100:4CC0:22D0:2CEA:2877 ( talk) 05:46, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Maybe I missed something, but until I saw it in the Spotlight I didn't know about the discussion at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Get_rid_of_stub_tags which began on 21 June. I hope the rest of you did. Pam D 18:39, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Pre-existing template:geodesy-stub was mis-categorized under category:cartography stubs; I've corrected that for category:geodesy stubs -- do you what bot could populate the correct category now? thanks! fgnievinski ( talk) 01:04, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
Should the article be tagged with {{ WesternCape-geo-stub}}, {{ Religious-struct-stub}}, or {{ SouthAfrica-church-stub}}? Thank you for your time. Opalzukor ( talk) 11:17, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi folks - A while back, Category:Underpopulated stub categories was discussed and emptied in favor of using Category:Stub categories needing attention, which is separated into sections for under-, over-, or specifically-populated stub categories. I propose that Category:Overpopulated stub categories undergo the same emptying and CfD, for the same reasons. Thoughts? Her Pegship ( ?) 17:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
I had an RfC to determine what the minimum size should be for stub categories, but it was closed prematurely by a bot due to inactivity. See Wikipedia talk:Stub/Archive 14#RfC: Minimum size for stub categories. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:00, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
{{
rfc}}
tag is removed. In this case, 19:54, 29 July 2020 (UTC) plus thirty days is 19:54, 28 August 2020 (UTC) - the tag was removed at 20:01, 28 August 2020 (UTC), that is, when the RfC was 30 days and 7 minutes old. All this is covered at
WP:RFC#Duration. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 00:01, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi folks - I've been scrolling through Stub categories needing attention - Stub categories which are potentially undersized and I see several categories where there are over 70 articles in them, but they're still in the "potentially undersized" category. I went through the source code, stub templates, everything I could think of, but I cannot tell why these categories are there. There's no {{ popstub}} template (any more). An example is Category:1993 country song stubs, which holds 126 articles and yet shows up in the "potentially undersized" category. Does anyone know (a) why/how these stub cats are marked potentially undersized, and (b) how to remove them from the inaccurate "needing attention" category?? Her Pegship ( ?) 00:03, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
{{PAGESINCATEGORY:{{PAGENAME}}|R}}
(which is part of the {{
Stub Category}}
template used on that page) is returning 0 but should return 74. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 16:25, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Proposed merge is over at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2020_October_28#Template:Sfp_create. Her Pegship ( ?) 18:10, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
{{sfp create}}
and several other templates used in closing discussions will be deleted in favor of {{sfp top|result}}
; {{sfp bottom}}
will still be used at the bottom of each discussion. Just FYI.
Her Pegship (
?) 20:04, 22 November 2020 (UTC)Hi folks! Just a friendly reminder: when you create a template and/or category, please remember to add it to the list of stub types. Thanks. Her Pegship ( ?) 17:42, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Per this, the Valdez-Cordova Census Area ceased to exist almost two years ago. From looking at the affected content, we have someone who showed up at a bunch of articles to insert empty authority control templates while leaving this more substantial bit of work for someone else to do. Still other editors have attempted to revert the efforts of others who were trying to do something about correcting this. Seeing that, I've taken the initiative to properly split content reflecting the two new census areas. I'm not really interested in doing all the work, or at the very least am only interested in doing it as my time will allow, and I've already given up enough time on this to where I'm falling behind with other off-wiki and real-life activities. If you're looking for something to do, any help would be appreciated to complete this. Thank you. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 23:07, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Discussion currently underway at Templates for discussion, as to whether to delete {{ ProvinceofCanada-politician-stub}}. I believe there was discussion in August 2020 about creating upmerged templates for {{ UpperCanada-MPP-stub}} and {{ ProvinceofCanada-MPP-stub}} and that the creator of the templates nominated for deletion misunderstood the conclusions made. Anyway, if you'd like to weigh in, feel free. Her Pegship ( ?) 21:19, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Hello. I notice that France-archery-bio-stub and France-badminton-bio-stub are in Category:French sportspeople stubs but already have subcategories. These subcategories are Category:French archery biography stubs and Category:French badminton biography stubs. I was wondering why these templates are in the sportspeople stub category while they already have a subcategory. Thanks! -- MrLinkinPark333 ( talk) 20:46, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi. I created Category:South African soccer defender stubs, Category:South African soccer midfielder stubs and Category:South African soccer forward stubs a few months back but without coming through here first (sorry!). Would anyone mind sorting these out for me? Microwave Anarchist ( talk) 17:32, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:IndigenousAustralia-stub , which is about a template that is within the scope of this WikiProject. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:48, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello. Do you guys have a tips page/training guide somewhere for someone adding stubs to articles? Max number of stubs per article? Most common categories? Most common stub mistakes? Thank you. – Novem Linguae ( talk) 22:58, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
A stub category should be split manually, after this discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:09, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
I've found
Template:Veganism-and-Vegetarianism-stub, which was created at 20:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC) by
Throughthemind (
talk ·
contribs) without (so far as I can tell) first being proposed at
WP:WSS/P. It uses |category=Stub-Class Veganism and Vegetarianism articles
which is a misuse of that parameter. My problem is that I can't work out what a suitable category should be. Any ideas? Or maybe we should simply
WP:TFD the template since it is used on only one article. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 22:51, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
What stub type would International Chernobyl Disaster Remembrance Day fit? Not a {{ festival-stub}} nor a {{ tradition-stub}} nor a {{ holiday-stub}}, and we don't have a {{ day-stub}} or an {{ observance-stub}}. I've come across this before, for named days which are not celebratory but are commemorative or awareness-raising, and are not an actual holiday, nor long-enough established to feel like a "tradition". I see Carl Garner Federal Lands Cleanup Day has {{ festival-stub}} and World Keratoconus Day has {{ tradition-stub}} while UN French Language Day has {{ holiday-stub}}, none of which seem particularly appropriate. Pam D 18:02, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
This is related to the discussion here. Mjquinn_id has created {{ Tennis-GrandSlam-stub}} and Category:Grand Slam competition stubs without checking with anyone here as to its usefulness or implementation. There are currently 8 articles tagged thusly, and as there is a TOC by decade on the cat page, I assume that Mjquinn_id intends to fill the category. While the creator embraces WP:BOLD, I think that a proposal here at WPSS would have been in order. My question is, should I put a WPSS banner on the category even though it was not proposed/approved by WPSS? Tagging @ Mjquinn id: for their information. Her Pegship ( ?) 19:42, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
I do not believe this is a stub anymore. Please check and critique when convenient. Thanks Tillywilly17 ( talk) 00:59, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
PS This is not a 1943 song.
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) § Why do we customize appearance of stub tags by topic?. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 00:25, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi folks - I posted this a while ago on the talk page for Category:Stub categories needing attention, but I thought I'd ask again here in case no one has seen it:
I don't know how to make a sub-category land under a letter representing one of the conditions noted in the category header (N, O, P, Q, S, U) rather than appearing under its name in the general category. For example, Category:Central Province, Sri Lanka geography stubs shows up under "C" instead of "O" (for Oversized). Can someone tell me the code for changing the order? Her Pegship (?) 5:17 pm, 26 September 2021, Sunday (2 months, 10 days ago) (UTC−7)
Any advice? Her Pegship ( ?) 02:22, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
[[Category:Stub categories needing attention<noinclude>| </noinclude>]]
[[Category:Stub categories needing attention|<includeonly>O</includeonly><noinclude> </noinclude>]]
See Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Layout#Template:Improve categories. Pam D 09:29, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
FYI Template:Sfr-r ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (stub-type category redirect proposed for renaming) template has been proposed to be deleted -- 65.92.246.142 ( talk) 15:48, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
I've found Template:US-physiologist-stub and Category:American physiologist stub. They were both created on 23 February 2022 by Joaquin89uy ( talk · contribs), and neither was proposed (let alone approved) at WP:WSS/P. We don't even have a category or stub template for physiologists in general (let alone any other country-specific ones), and the number of articles using them (4) is well short of the 60 threshold for approval, so shall we send them for deletion? -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 23:03, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
{{
US-physiologist-stub}}
becomes doubtful.{{
US-med-bio-stub}}
, and also
Category:American biologist stubs (which you have already noticed) with its associated {{
US-biologist-stub}}
. If you cannot find another 56 stub articles about American physiologists, then surely your four articles would be better placed in one or both of those two existing stub categories, by replacing the {{
US-physiologist-stub}}
with either or both of the stub templates that I mention. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 13:54, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
There *is* a category "American physiologists" but there is no *stub category* for any kind of physiologist, which would normally be a precursor to "American physiologist stubs". Her Pegship ( ?) 18:49, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
This is now at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 April 2#Template:US-physiologist-stub. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 09:40, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 70#Stub template lacking an image
There appears to be an issue with the images of a few stub templates, and I can't seem to wrap my mind around what may be the issue. Can anyone figure this out? Curbon7 ( talk) 23:30, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
)and turns it into something like
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{ cite web}}, {{ cite journal}} and {{ doi}}.
The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.
This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
I am having problems with Eluru-geo-stub / its category Category:Eluru district geography stubs. This does not display correctly on article pages and does not collect anything in its category. Yet it looks the same as other stubs that do work. Ideas/corrections? Thanks. Hmains ( talk) 18:33, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
I have just finished emptying a stub category, Olivellidae, completely, except for the stub template. It had been a biological family of sea snails. But there were changes made to the classification, and I moved all the articles to other stub categories. The stub template and category are no longer needed. How do we delete them? Uporządnicki ( talk) 13:28, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Hey everyone. There are around 830 unused (non-redirect) stub templates which you can see here Wikipedia:Database reports/Unused templates/2 (starting at 1453) and Wikipedia:Database reports/Unused templates/3. Wikipedia:Stub#Guidelines recommends a minimum of 60 pages for new templates, but is quite about existing templates. As I'm sure you project has more knowledge in this area than I do, can you please take a look at these and see if these are still needed or if they can be sent to TfD/CfD? Gonnym ( talk) 08:58, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
{{ US-novelist-20thC-stub}}, created today, puts articles into a parent-only category; see Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2023_January_11#Template:US-novelist-20thC-stub. Pam D 23:22, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
I would like to propose a template for historical Prussian districts, there are some Prussian district articles and at wiki project Prussia we plan to create more so it would be helpful to have a template Crainsaw ( talk) 18:47, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
I am proposing a new stub for the Framework For Success In Post Secondary Writing. This document is highly influential and created from all different perspectives. While it is not extensive enough to be an actual article I am proposing a stub Yeahhidk ( talk) 21:53, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
I notice that there have been more and more articles tagged with {{
stub}}
which have to do with current events - for example,
Parachinar school shooting and
Assassination of Girma Yeshitila (which has been redirected already). Typically there are not many details about the incident described, thus it gets marked as a stub article. Is there consensus on how these should be tagged? Should they get a stub tag, and if so, should they be tagged with the country/sport/medium in which the event occurs? Or is there another template/notice that will bring it to the attention of editors who deal with current events? Any advice? Thanks in advance -
Her Pegship (
?) 20:48, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
I notice that User:Fadesga has been very active in creating stub categories since June 2022 [3] but I can find no record that any of these categories went through the stub sorting proposal procedure that the stub category banner says all stub categories must go through. Is there some other channel for stub category creation that I am missing? Or have all of these stub categories been created out-of-process? — David Eppstein ( talk) 00:48, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
I was browsing some old stub categories I've worked with before and I noticed that User:Joeykai had created two stub categories in July 2022 ( Category:English MPs 1529–1536 stubs, Category:English MPs 1563–1567 stubs) that I had either thought about proposing or had proposed in the past as part of dealing with the very large categories, but that I don't recall if it was approved. They were appropriately sized, but it struck me as a bit weird so I checked a bit further and didn't see any stub proposal discussions, nor were they listed in the List of Stub Types. I did a search [4], and here's a smattering of other stub categories I saw that this user created, but which I couldn't find on the List of Stub Types:
Can someone double check if these are legit? I tried to use petscan to get a feel for all the stub categories the user created but I didn't know how to filter on user. Furicorn ( talk) 13:06, 14 September 2023 (UTC)