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I was going to post at Literature, but it doesn't seem like that's active. There's an article for a short story up for deletion and a quick search shows that there does appear to be coverage, but it's all in Spanish. Can someone who is fluent enough help look for coverage and if anything is usable, add it to the article? I'm going to keep searching, but I thought it would be better to get someone else to help as well. The article in question is La muñeca menor. I'm going to post at WP:Puerto Rico as well. I don't know if it's ultimately a notable short story, but I figure that it'd be better to give it more of a fighting chance. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 20:00, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Members of this project may be interested in this discussion. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 00:52, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Jane Austen, Portal:Harry Potter & Portal:Narnia have been nominated for deletion as part of a bundled nomination under the title: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Bottom Importance Portals. Espresso Addict ( talk) 05:45, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Was wondering if someone from this WikiProject could take a look at this and assess it per WP:NBOOK. It's completely unsourced and doesn't ever appear to have had citations ever added to it since it was created back in 2009. If not notable in it's own right, perhaps the content about the book can be incorporated into Leslie Marmon Silko. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 02:15, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place that members of this project may be interested in:
Talk:And Then There Were None § RfC: And Then There Were None and racial language
Any input would be appreciated. WanderingWanda (they/them) ( t/ c) 18:29, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.
Hi
There is currently discussion around my deboldening of a character list. Talk:Great_Expectations#Bold_for_character_names
The real issue seems to be that when characters are NOT introduced in the plot, a list inevitable follows.
Some characters get a sentence, some get a paragraph, so it falls between list and prose, and neither is in the plot.
Can someone look at perhaps introducing new style advice in the MOS:Novels?
I am being told that I will not be allowed to remove the boldening, as per MOS:BOLDFACE, unless I (nothing to do with the article per se) go and change all the other Great Expectations pages.*
Obviously if there are many pages that are against MOS, I cannot in good faith start going in there and changing them just because there are style issues creeping into Novels pages.
Is there any way for someone to clarify the MOS:Novels interpretation, and how it should be ignored/adhered to? Chaosdruid ( talk) 13:21, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
There is a requested move at Talk:The Culture (series) that would benefit from your opinion. Please come and help! Paine Ellsworth, ed. put'r there 09:31, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Harry Potter is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Harry Potter (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America 1000 08:45, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
The article The Christy Miller series has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
No references, article is just an introduction and list of titles
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The InternetArchiveBot added bluelinks to several inline citations in the article about Persuasion by Jane Austen, here. I looked at the first one, the page number cited includes words from Claire Tomalin that back up the sentence in the article. Now what? Do I undo the blue link? Do I add the link as a url for the source? This is new to me, bluelinking a page number in a formatted citation. The bot adds a link to the source cited in an online version with page images, right to the page cited, and turns the page number blue, hence blue linking. Any help is appreciated. These blue links have appeared in other articles I follow. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 00:04, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I'm new to editing on here - been at it a few weeks. Some of the contributions I've made so far is creating pages for The Curfew and Samedi the Deafness by Jesse Ball, Mr. Fox by Helen Oyeyemi, the story collections Mouthful of Birds and Things We Lost in the Fire, created a page for the author Helen Phillips, and adding Critical Review sections to CivilWarLand In Bad Decline, Crash, The Last Samurai and Lightning Rods (Helen DeWitt), The Intuitonist, and the legacy sections for Andrei Platonov and The Man Without Qualities, etc. The purpose of me listing this is just to show that I'm not some barely-active newbie; that I'm here with genuine passion for the Novel section.
So now my questions: how do I officially join Project Novels? And where is the best spot for general chatting about editing and contribution ideas? I'm looking for a bit more camaraderie, so far I feel like I've been editing in a bubble outside of a couple users I've interacted with in passing. Interested in finding more people with a common interest in expanding the Novel section that I can chat editing project ideas with. Hope to hear from some of you. Best, ANDROMITUS ( talk) 18:31, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
I'm looking for participants for a possible new wikiproject H. P. Lovecraft, to tag and improve articles relating to the horror writer.-- Auric talk 09:52, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Proposal to delete all portals. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Proposal to delete Portal space. Voceditenore ( talk) 08:47, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Comments are invited at Talk:Police procedural#Merger proposal. Thanks, Meticulo ( talk) 06:53, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
Important author, Katherine Mansfield, particularly of short stories. Lots of sources at Google books. Referencing needs improvement. Only pretended compliance with WP:Before. Nominator says this is "a test case." 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 21:06, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.
We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma ( talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello! I have recently created a bot to remove completed infobox requests and am sending this message to WikiProject Novels since the project currently has a backlogged infobox request category. Details about the task can be found at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/PearBOT 2, but in short it removes all infobox requests from articles with an infobox, once a week. To sign up, reply with {{ ping|Trialpears}} and tell me if any special considerations are required for the Wikiproject. For example: if only a specific infobox should be detected, such as {{ infobox journal}} for WikiProject Academic Journals; or if an irregularly named infobox such as {{ starbox begin}} should be detected. Feel free to ask if you have any questions!
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Hi, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation#Hatnote for Isaac Asimov's pseudonym and comment there. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 10:10, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
Hey all. There is currently a deletion debate ongoing about Brewer (John Updike), the setting of John Updike's "Rabbit" cycle of novels. Any input at the AFD would be welcome, as would any contributions anyone might have from reliable sources discussing this topic outside of a plot summary. Thanks! — Hunter Kahn 13:22, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
There is a deletion/merge discussion that might be of interest to members of this Wikiproject here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Fellowship of the Ring.-- MattMauler ( talk) 22:11, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
The AfD suggesting merge/delete and redirect has closed, and another discussion about merging all three LotR volumes' articles into The Lord of the Rings has now opened at Talk:The Lord of the Rings#Proposed merge of The Fellowship of the Ring etc into The Lord of the Rings, as of February 4.
This likely has implications for our handling of other multi-volume works of fiction.
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I made a new discussion in WT:Notability (fiction) regarding adding more restrictions on lists regarding fictional elements such as swords, animals, profession, and so on. if anyone is interested in bringing their opinion on the topic. here. Blue Pumpkin Pie Chat Contribs 19:12, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
I've done some work on an article about a novel called 2023: A Trilogy by the artists most widely known as The KLF. The novel appears to be heavily inspired by The Illuminatus! Trilogy.
The article is in the domain of both WikiProject The KLF and WikiProject Novels. As the currently sole active member of the former, I've done what I can on the KLF side of things, but the article could do with some help on the book side of things - which is really rather important as the article is about the novel :) If anybody would like to flesh it out I'd really appreciate it. I've left a note about what I've done, what I feel needs to be done (but you're the experts), and some possible sources, on the talk page.
Additionally, if there's anybody in the UK who is interested in finishing this article but feels they need to own a copy of the book first, I am willing to donate a copy to them with 2 conditions (and 1 disclaimer). 1) You'll have to promise to write about the book even if it's terrible, 2) The offer only stands while the book remains available on Amazon for under £7 ;). The disclaimer is that of course to facilitate this I would need an address. I hope that as an editor and admin in good standing (?) trust can be presumed but if not you'll have to buy or borrow your own copy! :)
I'm not expecting any takers, with or without a free book thrown in, but as the old adage goes, "if you don't ask, you don't get". If anybody wishes to communicate with me about this, please be sure to ping me as I'm not much of a watchlist-watcher. Don't bother pinging me with "no", that is taken for granted.
Please move this thread to the relevant WikiProject talk page if I've posted in the wrong place. Thank you. -- kingboyk ( talk) 02:32, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Is there a tag or something? See Death on the Nile talk page under "Is this supposed to be about the book or the film?". A lot of the plot information is coming from the film, rather than the novel and they are two very different stories. I pointed out the first glaring mistake but there are others. Unfortunately, I'm not all that familiar with the novel (hence the reason I was looking it up to begin with) to make the corrections. I just remembered for certain about the rock business. Is there a tag that can warn readers that this may contain inaccuracies from confusion of the book and film or even series? What about when there are many other versions such as a the television series and an upcoming new film? How do we fix this? Any advice at all? Please ping me, with suggestions. MagnoliaSouth ( talk) 17:20, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
I've suggested on the talk page of Wuthering Heights that the plot summary is excessively long and should be cut down. Further eyes would be welcome. MichaelMaggs ( talk) 11:42, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
There is disagreement on the Talk page of Crome Yellow over whether a minor character there is meant to portray Herbert Asquith. If those familiar with the novel know of reliable sources for this belief, would they please mention them there? Sweetpool50 ( talk) 22:30, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Our thanks to Oulfis for resolving the issue in an uncontroversial manner. Sweetpool50 ( talk) 18:21, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
CAT:NN] has a crazy backlog, including 1200 books [1] some of which have ben waiting almost 12 years. There is also a short backlog of 41 at fiction: [2]. Please help us get these backlogs down, we'd be extremely grateful! Thanks, Boleyn ( talk) 15:08, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
The file File:Tom Brown's School Days (1940 film).jpg was relisted once and is currently nominated for discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion, where I invite you for input. -- George Ho ( talk) 20:50, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi all, I've boldly updated your project's peer review page ( Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Peer review) by updating the instructions and archiving old reviews.
The new instructions use Wikipedia's general peer review process ( WP:PR) to list peer reviews. Your project's reviews are still able to be listed on your local page too.
The benefits of this change is that review requests will get seen by a wider audience and are likely to be attended to in a more timely way (many WikiProject peer reviews remain unanswered after years). The Wikipedia peer review process is also more maintained than most WikiProjects, and this may help save time for your active members.
I've done this boldly as it seems your peer review page is pretty inactive and I am working through around 90 such similar peer review pages. Please feel free to discuss below - please ping me ({{ u|Tom (LT)}}) in your response.
Cheers and hope you are well, Tom (LT) ( talk) 00:22, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
The article/page about The Island of Doctor Moreau is incomplete in my opinion. First of all, the layout of the article is poor as the historical context is followed by a long list of related works. Second, the reception section is empty. Third, many of the comments/statements made in the article have no citations/references. My primary concern is to move the long list of related works into a new article for reader comprehensibility. I would like to request help with making this article better. Thanks for reading about my concerns. Leiwang7 ( talk) 15:27, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi all, I have recently edited the article the Chronicles of Barsetshire as part of a University project. I understand you guys must have massive amounts of articles to get through, but would really appreciate it if you could take a look a my article. I am fairly new to Wikipedia, and since this is my first ever article, some advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Ben BjL1504 ( talk) 00:03, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Long shot because it’s only just now out in print but has anyone read/listened to A Certain Hunger and might be able to help with the plot? Inspired by great reviews, I started an entry and it seems ripe (ha ha) for DYK but I haven’t gotten to read it yet and don’t want to send to Main Page with a thin plot section. Innisfree987 ( talk) 16:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
The Vince Flynn novel Transfer of Power needs serious expansion, including the plot summary, critical reception and such. Someone needs to work on expanding it. BattleshipMan ( talk) 19:04, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
The article The Tent (Paulsen novel) has been proposed for deletion. The proposed deletion notice added to the article should explain why.
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Hey everyone!
I've thrown myself headlong into updating The Turn of the Screw. It was in sore need of it for such an important story. I've completely rewritten Reception (renamed from Literary significance and criticism), added The Turn of the Screw#Background, and written the lead a bit. I've familiarised myself with the WikiProject Novels MOS, so in addition to my changes to the article, I've also moved things around a little to suit the MOS. My next goal is to improve the section on Publication (there's a lot of important information missing about his preface to the New York Edition).
I brought up the Odyssey to GA a few months ago, but I've still only been editing for a few months, so I'd appreciate any input or suggestions! I tend to be be a fast editor, when I can. Feel free to ping me here, or post on the article's talk page. There's definitely some things that need expansion on. I could fill up Reception for days, but I've no idea when to draw the line. ImaginesTigers ( talk) 12:38, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
At the top of the article about the article on David Copperfield by Charles Dickens, edit page, the template in curly brackets says EngvarB|date= . I just looked up the Wikipedia articles about this template and do not find that style at all, rather the phrase British English inside the curly brackets and no date. I needed to explain the variations in English spelling and style to an editor of a novel by Jane Austen who deleted the British spellings and added American spellings, making work for other editors. I looked at a few articles that I know use British style and spelling, and they all have the notice in the same fashion as the article about the Austen novel. When articles are edited, I have noticed editors updating the date field to the current month. The templates listed at Template:British English do not use the parameter date= and are not shortened as the template I find often. Instead, the two words are spelled out, and no place for the date. Aha, I found this article template:EngvarB, which includes the date parameter. Which template is either correct or preferred?
Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at Novel Explosives and assessing it per WP:NBOOK? I'm not seeing anything in the article which indicates this book is notable enough for a stand-alone article, and the author doesn't seem to have an article about him so a WP:REDIRECT is probably out of the question. For reference, the article was created directly in the mainspace back in 2018 and it's talk page has yet to be created; so, it seems this never has been assessed by anyone other than the creator. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 01:26, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Nancy Drew for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:38, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi, everyone! Two days ago, I pushed a full rewrite of Dracula to mainspace. It was, in my view, pretty bad previously. I'm here to do something similar for what I did when I updated The Turn of the Screw and solicit feedback. I'll be taking the article to GA, and then probably FAC not too long after that. If you think something sounds wrong, you can let me know (or fix it yourself, if you like!); if anything is confusing, just give me a ping here, on the Talk, or on my user talk. The article isn't finished yet, though. If you have a look at Talk:Dracula, you can see the list of changes I mean to make in the near-future. If there's any questions you have, or comments, or anything at all, I'd be really open to hearing it. Open to all suggestions and I promise I'm very friendly. — ImaginesTigers ( talk∙ contribs) 01:08, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Greetings Wikipedians! Today I noticed that there no references to support Publishers Weekly list of bestselling novels in the United States in the 1950s. That is also the case for the lists for all years prior to 2006. In a normal Wikipedia article, there would be an inline citation to a references section citing specific sources for this list, to which one could go to verify accuracy. I'm not questioning the accuracy of the article, just the reason for deviating from Wikipedia policy. Is this perhaps an area for improvement? I'd be glad to help, but would like some background on this before I begin. As a compulsive reader of book reviews, I have followed the weekly bestseller lists for decades. Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 ( talk) 19:58, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
F. Scott Fitzgerald's novel The Great Gatsby is currently the subject of an ongoing featured article review. Surprisingly, very few people thus far have contributed evaluations of the article. As any Wikipedia editor can participate in a review of a FAC nomination, it would be appreciated if any willing editors would contribute an objective evaluation of the article. → Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/The_Great_Gatsby/archive2 — Flask ( talk) 19:27, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
The issue discussed herein potentially affects:
As mentioned in an earlier post on this talk page, I've been adding inline citations to the series of articles "List of bestsellers in the US in...(year)" to identify the source. In most cases, the source is what I've called the Hackett book. [2]. The Hacket book identifies The Bookman as the source for 1895 - 1912. But the titles of the related Wikipedia articles for that period imply that Publishers Weekly is the sole source. That's not accurate, as far as I can tell. It seems to me that the simplest solution is just to remove PW from the titles of those articles, call them "List of bestselling novels in the United States in the (decade)" and let our reflist explain the sources. If other editors involved in this project agree, we'll need to figure out how to launch Wikipedia's process for changing the titles. Thoughts? Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 ( talk) 12:12, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, for fantasy task force articles, I noticed there are two tags: "importance" and "fantasy-importance".
{{WikiProject Novels |class= |importance= |fantasy-task-force=yes |fantasy-importance= }}
Just to understand, are they meant to be independent tags? As in, a book could be a mid-importance novel, but a high-importance fantasy novel.
Examples of books currently tagged this way: The Encyclopedia of Fantasy, The Witcher. A book that isn't, but probably should be: American Gods (tagged as "mid" for both). So I wanted to check before re-tagging. Olivaw-Daneel ( talk) 22:47, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
I'm posting here because there is a featured article candidate about a novel ( Seventy-Six (1823) by John Neal (1793–1876)) that is in need of editors to review and comment on the content of the article. Otherwise, it may be archived soon due to inactivity. That nomination is here: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Seventy-Six (novel)/archive1. I'm told that it is fairly rare to see articles about novels nominated for featured article status, so perhaps that makes this of particular interest to this group. If you're unfamiliar with reviewing featured article candidates, see WP:FAC before you read through the article or make any comments on the nomination. Thank you in advance for your willingness to review the article and comment on the nomination! Dugan Murphy ( talk) 18:42, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:A Man Called Ove (novel)#Requested move 19 November 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 13:50, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Please see: Talk:J. K. Rowling#RFC on how to include her trans-related views (and backlash) in the lead
I am "advertising" this RfC more broadly to relevant pages because someone selectively notified three socio-political wikiprojects that are likely to vote-stack the RfC with a single viewpoint, and the article already has a long history of factional PoV editwarring.
Central matters in this discussion and the threads leading up to it are labeling of Rowling, labeling of commenters on Rowling, why Rowling is notable, what is due or undue in the lead section, and whether quasi-numeric claims like "many", "a few", etc. in this context are legitimate or an OR/WEASEL issue. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:37, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
likely to vote-stack the RfC with a single socio-political viewpointseems pretty loopy, and there hasn't been any move to reduce the primary emphasis on Rowling's novels in the lead.
Hi everyone! I've had A Beautiful Crime, a 2020 novel by Christopher Bollen, at FAC for the past few weeks and it was recently added to the " FAC urgents" list by a coordinator, meaning that it is in need of some more comments. Please feel free to leave comments at the FAC page if you are interested: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/A Beautiful Crime/archive1. Many thanks! DanCherek ( talk) 00:48, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Uncle Tom's Cabin for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. ( t · c) buidhe 07:54, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
If you have an opinion, please share at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Kirkus_Reviews,_again. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 08:02, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
Yo. I need a helping hand with the Maurice LeBlanc novel 813 that got sent to draft-space a while back (see Draft:813 (novel)). The tips suggested me to "asking for help on the talk page of a relevant WikiProject" and here I am. I have bit limited knowledge on Arsene Lupin, but I do know enough that 813 is brought up a lot in discussions by the series fans. It seems academic sources on this book are limited and/or escape my attention and I need somebody who knows something to drag this piece from Draftspace. Or have I misunderstood 813's relevance? -- TrickShotFinn ( talk) 17:07, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
An editor has nominated J. K. Rowling for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 04:07, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
I started the formal FA review on The Well of Loneliness. Your input there and further contributions to the article are welcome. -- George Ho ( talk) 02:13, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
I started this discussion, and it led to the following interesting question:
Should categories like Category:African-American novels and Category:Jewish American novels be based on the background of the author or the content of the work? If you have an opinion, please share at the Cfd-page. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 18:40, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Would some members of this WikiProject mind taking a look at Power Boys and assessing it per WP:NBOOK. It was created back in 2008 and there seem to have been some good-faith attempts at improving it over the years, but most of the sources cited seem to be primary (i.e. to the book (or books) itself). It also appears that the who the actual author was is unclear which might be another reason why better sourcing is so hard to find. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 22:05, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
I'm working on The Sacrifice (Oates novel) after a failed GA nomination. The major point of concern was OR and SYNTH, especially in the "Setting" section. I was definitely sloppy — not selecting the best sources and interpolating information not found in the sources I did cite — but that aside, I'm wondering what the threshold for SYNTH is in giving background information about a novel's setting. The novel was recently published and there aren't any sources about the novel that discuss the setting (1980s northern New Jersey) in depth, so the section would have to be written with sources that don't mention the novel at all. Is that acceptable, or should the section be removed entirely? Rublov ( talk) 00:43, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello - I recently did a pretty substantial rework of the article for Go Tell It on the Mountain (novel) which was in a pretty sorry state. Since then, a couple of typos have been fixed but not too much else. I saw it was rate High Importance for this Project so wanted to flag it here so anyone interested could take a look and make further improvements. Although it is still rated Start, I think it's probably B now, but it could definitely benefit from whatever attention any experienced editor from this project is willing to give. GA is probably achievable with a bit of work if someone is so inclined. Thanks! InspectorTiger ( talk) 17:39, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Is The Magic Bedknob; or, How to Become a Witch in Ten Easy Lessons and the The Magic Bed Knob the same book or different books by author Mary Norton. Dwanyewest ( talk) 03:03, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
It was just pointed out to me that
Template:WikiProject Novels makes a reference to "articles mentioned below", but a talk page wikiproject banner will never have articles listed below...? You can see it in situ, for example, at
Talk:Devil in a Blue Dress. I've never noticed this before but it now seems very off. I think the project banner template ought to be edited so that, instead of saying If you would like to participate, you can edit one of the articles mentioned below, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.
it just said If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.
Is there consensus to make this edit? Or are there supposed to be "articles mentioned below" on talk pages??
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Imprisoned with the Pharaohs#Requested move 17 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. signed, 511KeV (talk) 08:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
There are three Featured Article Save Award nominations at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/J. K. Rowling/archive1. Please join the discussion to recognize and celebrate editors who helped assure this article would retain its featured status. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 23:18, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
The article The Proud and the Free has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Wholly lacking in reliable sources (about the topic) and evidence of notability for 11.84 years
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Not sure if this is the right place, but just letting you know there's a draft article about the Third Fowl Twins novel at Draft:The Fowl Twins Get What They Deserve if anyone's interested in improving it. It's barely anything at the minute.
I partially filled out the infobox and deleted the text that was already there. KaraLG84 ( talk) 23:16, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Talk:Demon Princes. Clarityfiend ( talk) 09:12, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
The article Angel of Music, or The Private Life of Giselle has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Not even remotely notable. In addition, it's possible this might be a hoax.
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With Angel of Music, or The Private Life of Giselle now deleted, I'd now like to make formal request for it to be added to the hoax museum. 100.7.36.213 ( talk) 13:24, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
I have nominated Religious debates over the Harry Potter series for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 01:59, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Talk:The Kingkiller Chronicle § Merger proposals has been open for nearly a year - anyone interested in closing it? Olivaw-Daneel ( talk) 00:44, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
I am looking for a work that seems to be either a detective or a political or spy thriller. I only remember the beginning of the piece. A guy found a derelict computer, sat down at it and started to do something, and then he saw a man with a gun walk up to the desk, the guy automatically pressed the enter button and the man shot him back. The work came out in the 1990s. The work came out no later than the 1990s (maybe sooner). I also remember that the guy was doing something enthusiastically on the computer: at first he was typing without looking at the screen, but the message on the computer monitor made him do his work more slowly and carefully. The phrases went something like this. The message on the computer screen made him work more carefully. There was a man standing at the desk, a gun in his hand. The guy had never seen a real gun except in movies, but he knew right away what it was. The guy's hand mechanically fell on the Enter button and that second the black muzzle of the gun burst into flames, ending his life. Vyacheslav84 ( talk) 17:01, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
A few weeks ago I nominated the 1828 American novel Rachel Dyer for featured article status. I drafted the article myself and saw it through good article status already. Being the first novel about the Salem witch trials and having an important influence on later American novelists, I wonder if someone from this Wikiproject would be willing to comment on the nomination before it is archived for inactivity. Here's the nomination. Thanks in advance for any attention it may get! Dugan Murphy ( talk) 20:37, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
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These policy violations should be removed from all Harry Potter articles: please mark them done as you replace or remove the ELNEVER accio-quote references.
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I would like to have a second opinion in the wording for these two introductions for The Hunchback of Notre-Dame just between these two version current version and the oldversion, please add your opinion in the discussion page here. Thanks! as promised, here is the discussion @ Stephanie921 —MCarlos (talk) MCarlos ( talk) 16:26, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Readers of the novels by Tony Hillerman may be interested to edit the article about his character Joe Leaphorn, as the entire article has been put up for speedy deletion here. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 06:36, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Twilight (Meyer novel)#Requested move 29 October 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 00:58, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
There is a proposal about the scope and potential renaming of this article, for which other editors' input is welcome. MartinPoulter ( talk) 15:02, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Talk:James Joyce § Should the article have an infobox I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 20:41, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
The Awkward Age (Henry James novel) is suffering badly from citation needed, MOS:WEASEL, maybe other problems.
Can anyone take a look?
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Where do we draw the line for who is a main character and who isn't in a book? Ijustlikefootball ( talk) 14:09, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
In the past I began adding new article novels to sections containing "Publication History" (for example After the Fire, A Still Small Voice) Years ago I was told not to add such sections, so I stopped adding them. Is everyone happy for me to delete the sections from all the past book articles that I created? (Or should I start adding them) Thanks GrahamHardy ( talk) 18:37, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
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Hekerui ( talk) 10:38, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
I have opened a WP:Peer review request for Mars in fiction in preparation for WP:Featured article nomination, see Wikipedia:Peer review/Mars in fiction/archive1. Any and all feedback would be appreciated. TompaDompa ( talk) 21:16, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Hello. I am Looking for one book. I only remember the beginning of the piece. Some guy found a derelict computer, sat down at it and started doing something, and then he saw a man with a gun walk up to the desk, they looked at each other in silence for a while, then the guy mechanically pressed the Enter button and the man shot him back. The work was read in the 1990s or very early 2000s. The piece appeared no later than the 1990s (probably earlier). I also remember that the guy was doing something enthusiastically on the computer: at first he typed without looking at the screen, but the message on the computer monitor made him do his work more slowly and carefully. The phrases went something like this. The message on the computer screen made him work more carefully. Behind the desk stood a man with a gun in his hand. The guy had never seen a real gun, except in the movies, but he knew immediately what it was. The guy's hand dropped mechanically to the Enter button, and the same second the black muzzle of the gun burst into flames, ending his life. Thank you in advance. Vyacheslav84 ( talk) 18:53, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
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If a work was serialized before being published, should this count as the publication date? What if the work were serialized over two years? I think sticking to independent publication date is generally better because 1. it's simpler and can't stretch over two years; 2. there might be substantial changes between the serialized and the final versions; and 3. I think this is the more common was of determining publication date.
However, I can't find explicit guidance on this. Can anyone point out what I've missed, or offer a suggestion? CohenTheBohemian ( talk) 12:02, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi, this is only tangentially related, but if you are trying to model serialized book data on Wikidata, I am interested in developing a consensus. So far I have this list on my Wikidata sandbox of two different ways to model a serial work (under "Serial work"). Rachel Helps (BYU) ( talk) 16:40, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Peter Grant (book series)#Requested move 16 February 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ❯❯❯ Raydann (Talk) 07:58, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
Y'all may want to take a look at this unsourced addition: [3] 76.14.122.5 ( talk) 18:13, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Terry Pratchett has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Olivaw-Daneel ( talk) 03:05, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Hi! I'm working with a small group of mostly-librarians to launch a new Wikimedia campaign focused on books, #EveryBookItsReader. Please let me know if you have any questions. Bridges2Information ( talk) 01:09, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Hi, recently another user has been adding more details to the character list on Twilight (Meyer novel). I'm not sure the character list adds that much to the page, and I'd like to remove it entirely. However, I'm not sure what the current consensus on character lists for book pages is. Are people still making them? Do some people like them? Rachel Helps (BYU) ( talk) 20:53, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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Should the "WikiProject Novels" tag be added to the talk pages of novelists, or only novels? 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 20:43, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
I have noticed that a lot of articles on novellas are inconsistently categorised - some have categories relating to novels, and others have categories relating to short stories. Some use the short short template and some use the novel template. I have created Category:Novellas by decade to try and assist with properly categorising novellas by date. McPhail ( talk) 09:15, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
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This novel is the fourth of the series in chronological order.
Am I alone in worrying that this is ambiguous between publication date and internal sequence? The word chronological means 'concerning time', and it's not obvious that it should refer to one of the two relevant kinds of time and not the other. When it's clear I sometimes change the wording. Wonder whether it's worth discussing a policy on this. — Tamfang ( talk) 21:33, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
Please help us settle a dispute over whether to merge the page Uchronia to Alternate history; see the full discussion here: Talk:Uchronia#Merge to Alternate history. Wolfdog ( talk) 23:53, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
Would some members of this WikiProject take a look at Carol Sklenicka? The article seems to start out as a BLP about Sklenicka but the focus then shifts to being mainly about two of her books. Perhaps there's enough about each of these books per WP:NBOOK for separate articles to be created about each of these books? -- Marchjuly ( talk) 23:54, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
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Please participate in a Request for Comments at Talk:Maske:_Thaery#RFC_on_Plot_Summary. Maske: Thaery is a 1976 novel by Jack Vance. The question in the RFC is which version of the plot summary should be used. Robert McClenon ( talk) 20:03, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
I have nominated George Moore (novelist) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 ( talk) 14:41, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
The longest work of early American fiction, Brother Jonathan by John Neal, is nominated for featured article status. Here's the nomination page if you're interested. Dugan Murphy ( talk) 17:04, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Outer space in fiction has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. 4meter4 ( talk) 15:57, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
Woulds someone from WP:NOVELS mind taking a look at Chinese Cinderella: The Mystery of the Song Dynasty Painting and assessing it per WP:NBOOK. It's be tagged with {{ Unreferenced}} since October 2012 and doesn't look like it's been improved much since then. In it's current state, it doesn't appear to be anything other that a plot summary; moreover, a Google search of the book's title gets some hits, but nothing that seems to resemble any type of critical review. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 01:04, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
Originally published in paperback as Chinese Cinderella: The Mystery of the Song Dynasty Painting...
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Hiya! I've been discussing an article with a newer user (@ Samuel Adrian Antz) and would like a second opinion on original research and primary sourcing in articles about novels.
Notability of the books aside, are sections like Dichronauts#Background (mathematics and physics) and The Eternal Flame (novel)#Background (mathematics and physics) good to keep? Personally it feels like either synthesis or over reliance on primary sources, is there an exception in fictional works? Just i yaya 16:30, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
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I was going to post at Literature, but it doesn't seem like that's active. There's an article for a short story up for deletion and a quick search shows that there does appear to be coverage, but it's all in Spanish. Can someone who is fluent enough help look for coverage and if anything is usable, add it to the article? I'm going to keep searching, but I thought it would be better to get someone else to help as well. The article in question is La muñeca menor. I'm going to post at WP:Puerto Rico as well. I don't know if it's ultimately a notable short story, but I figure that it'd be better to give it more of a fighting chance. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 20:00, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
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Portal:Jane Austen, Portal:Harry Potter & Portal:Narnia have been nominated for deletion as part of a bundled nomination under the title: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Bottom Importance Portals. Espresso Addict ( talk) 05:45, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Was wondering if someone from this WikiProject could take a look at this and assess it per WP:NBOOK. It's completely unsourced and doesn't ever appear to have had citations ever added to it since it was created back in 2009. If not notable in it's own right, perhaps the content about the book can be incorporated into Leslie Marmon Silko. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 02:15, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
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Hi
There is currently discussion around my deboldening of a character list. Talk:Great_Expectations#Bold_for_character_names
The real issue seems to be that when characters are NOT introduced in the plot, a list inevitable follows.
Some characters get a sentence, some get a paragraph, so it falls between list and prose, and neither is in the plot.
Can someone look at perhaps introducing new style advice in the MOS:Novels?
I am being told that I will not be allowed to remove the boldening, as per MOS:BOLDFACE, unless I (nothing to do with the article per se) go and change all the other Great Expectations pages.*
Obviously if there are many pages that are against MOS, I cannot in good faith start going in there and changing them just because there are style issues creeping into Novels pages.
Is there any way for someone to clarify the MOS:Novels interpretation, and how it should be ignored/adhered to? Chaosdruid ( talk) 13:21, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
There is a requested move at Talk:The Culture (series) that would benefit from your opinion. Please come and help! Paine Ellsworth, ed. put'r there 09:31, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Harry Potter is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
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Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America 1000 08:45, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
The article The Christy Miller series has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
No references, article is just an introduction and list of titles
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The InternetArchiveBot added bluelinks to several inline citations in the article about Persuasion by Jane Austen, here. I looked at the first one, the page number cited includes words from Claire Tomalin that back up the sentence in the article. Now what? Do I undo the blue link? Do I add the link as a url for the source? This is new to me, bluelinking a page number in a formatted citation. The bot adds a link to the source cited in an online version with page images, right to the page cited, and turns the page number blue, hence blue linking. Any help is appreciated. These blue links have appeared in other articles I follow. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 00:04, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I'm new to editing on here - been at it a few weeks. Some of the contributions I've made so far is creating pages for The Curfew and Samedi the Deafness by Jesse Ball, Mr. Fox by Helen Oyeyemi, the story collections Mouthful of Birds and Things We Lost in the Fire, created a page for the author Helen Phillips, and adding Critical Review sections to CivilWarLand In Bad Decline, Crash, The Last Samurai and Lightning Rods (Helen DeWitt), The Intuitonist, and the legacy sections for Andrei Platonov and The Man Without Qualities, etc. The purpose of me listing this is just to show that I'm not some barely-active newbie; that I'm here with genuine passion for the Novel section.
So now my questions: how do I officially join Project Novels? And where is the best spot for general chatting about editing and contribution ideas? I'm looking for a bit more camaraderie, so far I feel like I've been editing in a bubble outside of a couple users I've interacted with in passing. Interested in finding more people with a common interest in expanding the Novel section that I can chat editing project ideas with. Hope to hear from some of you. Best, ANDROMITUS ( talk) 18:31, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
I'm looking for participants for a possible new wikiproject H. P. Lovecraft, to tag and improve articles relating to the horror writer.-- Auric talk 09:52, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Proposal to delete all portals. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Proposal to delete Portal space. Voceditenore ( talk) 08:47, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Comments are invited at Talk:Police procedural#Merger proposal. Thanks, Meticulo ( talk) 06:53, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
Important author, Katherine Mansfield, particularly of short stories. Lots of sources at Google books. Referencing needs improvement. Only pretended compliance with WP:Before. Nominator says this is "a test case." 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 21:06, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
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Hey all. There is currently a deletion debate ongoing about Brewer (John Updike), the setting of John Updike's "Rabbit" cycle of novels. Any input at the AFD would be welcome, as would any contributions anyone might have from reliable sources discussing this topic outside of a plot summary. Thanks! — Hunter Kahn 13:22, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
There is a deletion/merge discussion that might be of interest to members of this Wikiproject here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Fellowship of the Ring.-- MattMauler ( talk) 22:11, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
The AfD suggesting merge/delete and redirect has closed, and another discussion about merging all three LotR volumes' articles into The Lord of the Rings has now opened at Talk:The Lord of the Rings#Proposed merge of The Fellowship of the Ring etc into The Lord of the Rings, as of February 4.
This likely has implications for our handling of other multi-volume works of fiction.
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I made a new discussion in WT:Notability (fiction) regarding adding more restrictions on lists regarding fictional elements such as swords, animals, profession, and so on. if anyone is interested in bringing their opinion on the topic. here. Blue Pumpkin Pie Chat Contribs 19:12, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
I've done some work on an article about a novel called 2023: A Trilogy by the artists most widely known as The KLF. The novel appears to be heavily inspired by The Illuminatus! Trilogy.
The article is in the domain of both WikiProject The KLF and WikiProject Novels. As the currently sole active member of the former, I've done what I can on the KLF side of things, but the article could do with some help on the book side of things - which is really rather important as the article is about the novel :) If anybody would like to flesh it out I'd really appreciate it. I've left a note about what I've done, what I feel needs to be done (but you're the experts), and some possible sources, on the talk page.
Additionally, if there's anybody in the UK who is interested in finishing this article but feels they need to own a copy of the book first, I am willing to donate a copy to them with 2 conditions (and 1 disclaimer). 1) You'll have to promise to write about the book even if it's terrible, 2) The offer only stands while the book remains available on Amazon for under £7 ;). The disclaimer is that of course to facilitate this I would need an address. I hope that as an editor and admin in good standing (?) trust can be presumed but if not you'll have to buy or borrow your own copy! :)
I'm not expecting any takers, with or without a free book thrown in, but as the old adage goes, "if you don't ask, you don't get". If anybody wishes to communicate with me about this, please be sure to ping me as I'm not much of a watchlist-watcher. Don't bother pinging me with "no", that is taken for granted.
Please move this thread to the relevant WikiProject talk page if I've posted in the wrong place. Thank you. -- kingboyk ( talk) 02:32, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Is there a tag or something? See Death on the Nile talk page under "Is this supposed to be about the book or the film?". A lot of the plot information is coming from the film, rather than the novel and they are two very different stories. I pointed out the first glaring mistake but there are others. Unfortunately, I'm not all that familiar with the novel (hence the reason I was looking it up to begin with) to make the corrections. I just remembered for certain about the rock business. Is there a tag that can warn readers that this may contain inaccuracies from confusion of the book and film or even series? What about when there are many other versions such as a the television series and an upcoming new film? How do we fix this? Any advice at all? Please ping me, with suggestions. MagnoliaSouth ( talk) 17:20, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
I've suggested on the talk page of Wuthering Heights that the plot summary is excessively long and should be cut down. Further eyes would be welcome. MichaelMaggs ( talk) 11:42, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
There is disagreement on the Talk page of Crome Yellow over whether a minor character there is meant to portray Herbert Asquith. If those familiar with the novel know of reliable sources for this belief, would they please mention them there? Sweetpool50 ( talk) 22:30, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Our thanks to Oulfis for resolving the issue in an uncontroversial manner. Sweetpool50 ( talk) 18:21, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
CAT:NN] has a crazy backlog, including 1200 books [1] some of which have ben waiting almost 12 years. There is also a short backlog of 41 at fiction: [2]. Please help us get these backlogs down, we'd be extremely grateful! Thanks, Boleyn ( talk) 15:08, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
The file File:Tom Brown's School Days (1940 film).jpg was relisted once and is currently nominated for discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion, where I invite you for input. -- George Ho ( talk) 20:50, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi all, I've boldly updated your project's peer review page ( Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Peer review) by updating the instructions and archiving old reviews.
The new instructions use Wikipedia's general peer review process ( WP:PR) to list peer reviews. Your project's reviews are still able to be listed on your local page too.
The benefits of this change is that review requests will get seen by a wider audience and are likely to be attended to in a more timely way (many WikiProject peer reviews remain unanswered after years). The Wikipedia peer review process is also more maintained than most WikiProjects, and this may help save time for your active members.
I've done this boldly as it seems your peer review page is pretty inactive and I am working through around 90 such similar peer review pages. Please feel free to discuss below - please ping me ({{ u|Tom (LT)}}) in your response.
Cheers and hope you are well, Tom (LT) ( talk) 00:22, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
The article/page about The Island of Doctor Moreau is incomplete in my opinion. First of all, the layout of the article is poor as the historical context is followed by a long list of related works. Second, the reception section is empty. Third, many of the comments/statements made in the article have no citations/references. My primary concern is to move the long list of related works into a new article for reader comprehensibility. I would like to request help with making this article better. Thanks for reading about my concerns. Leiwang7 ( talk) 15:27, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi all, I have recently edited the article the Chronicles of Barsetshire as part of a University project. I understand you guys must have massive amounts of articles to get through, but would really appreciate it if you could take a look a my article. I am fairly new to Wikipedia, and since this is my first ever article, some advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Ben BjL1504 ( talk) 00:03, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Long shot because it’s only just now out in print but has anyone read/listened to A Certain Hunger and might be able to help with the plot? Inspired by great reviews, I started an entry and it seems ripe (ha ha) for DYK but I haven’t gotten to read it yet and don’t want to send to Main Page with a thin plot section. Innisfree987 ( talk) 16:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
The Vince Flynn novel Transfer of Power needs serious expansion, including the plot summary, critical reception and such. Someone needs to work on expanding it. BattleshipMan ( talk) 19:04, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
The article The Tent (Paulsen novel) has been proposed for deletion. The proposed deletion notice added to the article should explain why.
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Hey everyone!
I've thrown myself headlong into updating The Turn of the Screw. It was in sore need of it for such an important story. I've completely rewritten Reception (renamed from Literary significance and criticism), added The Turn of the Screw#Background, and written the lead a bit. I've familiarised myself with the WikiProject Novels MOS, so in addition to my changes to the article, I've also moved things around a little to suit the MOS. My next goal is to improve the section on Publication (there's a lot of important information missing about his preface to the New York Edition).
I brought up the Odyssey to GA a few months ago, but I've still only been editing for a few months, so I'd appreciate any input or suggestions! I tend to be be a fast editor, when I can. Feel free to ping me here, or post on the article's talk page. There's definitely some things that need expansion on. I could fill up Reception for days, but I've no idea when to draw the line. ImaginesTigers ( talk) 12:38, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
At the top of the article about the article on David Copperfield by Charles Dickens, edit page, the template in curly brackets says EngvarB|date= . I just looked up the Wikipedia articles about this template and do not find that style at all, rather the phrase British English inside the curly brackets and no date. I needed to explain the variations in English spelling and style to an editor of a novel by Jane Austen who deleted the British spellings and added American spellings, making work for other editors. I looked at a few articles that I know use British style and spelling, and they all have the notice in the same fashion as the article about the Austen novel. When articles are edited, I have noticed editors updating the date field to the current month. The templates listed at Template:British English do not use the parameter date= and are not shortened as the template I find often. Instead, the two words are spelled out, and no place for the date. Aha, I found this article template:EngvarB, which includes the date parameter. Which template is either correct or preferred?
Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at Novel Explosives and assessing it per WP:NBOOK? I'm not seeing anything in the article which indicates this book is notable enough for a stand-alone article, and the author doesn't seem to have an article about him so a WP:REDIRECT is probably out of the question. For reference, the article was created directly in the mainspace back in 2018 and it's talk page has yet to be created; so, it seems this never has been assessed by anyone other than the creator. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 01:26, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Nancy Drew for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:38, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi, everyone! Two days ago, I pushed a full rewrite of Dracula to mainspace. It was, in my view, pretty bad previously. I'm here to do something similar for what I did when I updated The Turn of the Screw and solicit feedback. I'll be taking the article to GA, and then probably FAC not too long after that. If you think something sounds wrong, you can let me know (or fix it yourself, if you like!); if anything is confusing, just give me a ping here, on the Talk, or on my user talk. The article isn't finished yet, though. If you have a look at Talk:Dracula, you can see the list of changes I mean to make in the near-future. If there's any questions you have, or comments, or anything at all, I'd be really open to hearing it. Open to all suggestions and I promise I'm very friendly. — ImaginesTigers ( talk∙ contribs) 01:08, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Greetings Wikipedians! Today I noticed that there no references to support Publishers Weekly list of bestselling novels in the United States in the 1950s. That is also the case for the lists for all years prior to 2006. In a normal Wikipedia article, there would be an inline citation to a references section citing specific sources for this list, to which one could go to verify accuracy. I'm not questioning the accuracy of the article, just the reason for deviating from Wikipedia policy. Is this perhaps an area for improvement? I'd be glad to help, but would like some background on this before I begin. As a compulsive reader of book reviews, I have followed the weekly bestseller lists for decades. Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 ( talk) 19:58, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
F. Scott Fitzgerald's novel The Great Gatsby is currently the subject of an ongoing featured article review. Surprisingly, very few people thus far have contributed evaluations of the article. As any Wikipedia editor can participate in a review of a FAC nomination, it would be appreciated if any willing editors would contribute an objective evaluation of the article. → Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/The_Great_Gatsby/archive2 — Flask ( talk) 19:27, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
The issue discussed herein potentially affects:
As mentioned in an earlier post on this talk page, I've been adding inline citations to the series of articles "List of bestsellers in the US in...(year)" to identify the source. In most cases, the source is what I've called the Hackett book. [2]. The Hacket book identifies The Bookman as the source for 1895 - 1912. But the titles of the related Wikipedia articles for that period imply that Publishers Weekly is the sole source. That's not accurate, as far as I can tell. It seems to me that the simplest solution is just to remove PW from the titles of those articles, call them "List of bestselling novels in the United States in the (decade)" and let our reflist explain the sources. If other editors involved in this project agree, we'll need to figure out how to launch Wikipedia's process for changing the titles. Thoughts? Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 ( talk) 12:12, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, for fantasy task force articles, I noticed there are two tags: "importance" and "fantasy-importance".
{{WikiProject Novels |class= |importance= |fantasy-task-force=yes |fantasy-importance= }}
Just to understand, are they meant to be independent tags? As in, a book could be a mid-importance novel, but a high-importance fantasy novel.
Examples of books currently tagged this way: The Encyclopedia of Fantasy, The Witcher. A book that isn't, but probably should be: American Gods (tagged as "mid" for both). So I wanted to check before re-tagging. Olivaw-Daneel ( talk) 22:47, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
I'm posting here because there is a featured article candidate about a novel ( Seventy-Six (1823) by John Neal (1793–1876)) that is in need of editors to review and comment on the content of the article. Otherwise, it may be archived soon due to inactivity. That nomination is here: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Seventy-Six (novel)/archive1. I'm told that it is fairly rare to see articles about novels nominated for featured article status, so perhaps that makes this of particular interest to this group. If you're unfamiliar with reviewing featured article candidates, see WP:FAC before you read through the article or make any comments on the nomination. Thank you in advance for your willingness to review the article and comment on the nomination! Dugan Murphy ( talk) 18:42, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:A Man Called Ove (novel)#Requested move 19 November 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 13:50, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Please see: Talk:J. K. Rowling#RFC on how to include her trans-related views (and backlash) in the lead
I am "advertising" this RfC more broadly to relevant pages because someone selectively notified three socio-political wikiprojects that are likely to vote-stack the RfC with a single viewpoint, and the article already has a long history of factional PoV editwarring.
Central matters in this discussion and the threads leading up to it are labeling of Rowling, labeling of commenters on Rowling, why Rowling is notable, what is due or undue in the lead section, and whether quasi-numeric claims like "many", "a few", etc. in this context are legitimate or an OR/WEASEL issue. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:37, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
likely to vote-stack the RfC with a single socio-political viewpointseems pretty loopy, and there hasn't been any move to reduce the primary emphasis on Rowling's novels in the lead.
Hi everyone! I've had A Beautiful Crime, a 2020 novel by Christopher Bollen, at FAC for the past few weeks and it was recently added to the " FAC urgents" list by a coordinator, meaning that it is in need of some more comments. Please feel free to leave comments at the FAC page if you are interested: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/A Beautiful Crime/archive1. Many thanks! DanCherek ( talk) 00:48, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Uncle Tom's Cabin for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. ( t · c) buidhe 07:54, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
If you have an opinion, please share at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Kirkus_Reviews,_again. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 08:02, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
Yo. I need a helping hand with the Maurice LeBlanc novel 813 that got sent to draft-space a while back (see Draft:813 (novel)). The tips suggested me to "asking for help on the talk page of a relevant WikiProject" and here I am. I have bit limited knowledge on Arsene Lupin, but I do know enough that 813 is brought up a lot in discussions by the series fans. It seems academic sources on this book are limited and/or escape my attention and I need somebody who knows something to drag this piece from Draftspace. Or have I misunderstood 813's relevance? -- TrickShotFinn ( talk) 17:07, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
An editor has nominated J. K. Rowling for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 04:07, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
I started the formal FA review on The Well of Loneliness. Your input there and further contributions to the article are welcome. -- George Ho ( talk) 02:13, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
I started this discussion, and it led to the following interesting question:
Should categories like Category:African-American novels and Category:Jewish American novels be based on the background of the author or the content of the work? If you have an opinion, please share at the Cfd-page. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 18:40, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Would some members of this WikiProject mind taking a look at Power Boys and assessing it per WP:NBOOK. It was created back in 2008 and there seem to have been some good-faith attempts at improving it over the years, but most of the sources cited seem to be primary (i.e. to the book (or books) itself). It also appears that the who the actual author was is unclear which might be another reason why better sourcing is so hard to find. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 22:05, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
I'm working on The Sacrifice (Oates novel) after a failed GA nomination. The major point of concern was OR and SYNTH, especially in the "Setting" section. I was definitely sloppy — not selecting the best sources and interpolating information not found in the sources I did cite — but that aside, I'm wondering what the threshold for SYNTH is in giving background information about a novel's setting. The novel was recently published and there aren't any sources about the novel that discuss the setting (1980s northern New Jersey) in depth, so the section would have to be written with sources that don't mention the novel at all. Is that acceptable, or should the section be removed entirely? Rublov ( talk) 00:43, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello - I recently did a pretty substantial rework of the article for Go Tell It on the Mountain (novel) which was in a pretty sorry state. Since then, a couple of typos have been fixed but not too much else. I saw it was rate High Importance for this Project so wanted to flag it here so anyone interested could take a look and make further improvements. Although it is still rated Start, I think it's probably B now, but it could definitely benefit from whatever attention any experienced editor from this project is willing to give. GA is probably achievable with a bit of work if someone is so inclined. Thanks! InspectorTiger ( talk) 17:39, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Is The Magic Bedknob; or, How to Become a Witch in Ten Easy Lessons and the The Magic Bed Knob the same book or different books by author Mary Norton. Dwanyewest ( talk) 03:03, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
It was just pointed out to me that
Template:WikiProject Novels makes a reference to "articles mentioned below", but a talk page wikiproject banner will never have articles listed below...? You can see it in situ, for example, at
Talk:Devil in a Blue Dress. I've never noticed this before but it now seems very off. I think the project banner template ought to be edited so that, instead of saying If you would like to participate, you can edit one of the articles mentioned below, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.
it just said If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.
Is there consensus to make this edit? Or are there supposed to be "articles mentioned below" on talk pages??
~ L 🌸 (
talk) 19:47, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Imprisoned with the Pharaohs#Requested move 17 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. signed, 511KeV (talk) 08:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
There are three Featured Article Save Award nominations at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/J. K. Rowling/archive1. Please join the discussion to recognize and celebrate editors who helped assure this article would retain its featured status. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 23:18, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
The article The Proud and the Free has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Wholly lacking in reliable sources (about the topic) and evidence of notability for 11.84 years
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I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
)and turns it into something like
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{ cite web}}, {{ cite journal}} and {{ doi}}.
The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.
This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Not sure if this is the right place, but just letting you know there's a draft article about the Third Fowl Twins novel at Draft:The Fowl Twins Get What They Deserve if anyone's interested in improving it. It's barely anything at the minute.
I partially filled out the infobox and deleted the text that was already there. KaraLG84 ( talk) 23:16, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Talk:Demon Princes. Clarityfiend ( talk) 09:12, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
The article Angel of Music, or The Private Life of Giselle has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Not even remotely notable. In addition, it's possible this might be a hoax.
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With Angel of Music, or The Private Life of Giselle now deleted, I'd now like to make formal request for it to be added to the hoax museum. 100.7.36.213 ( talk) 13:24, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
I have nominated Religious debates over the Harry Potter series for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 01:59, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Talk:The Kingkiller Chronicle § Merger proposals has been open for nearly a year - anyone interested in closing it? Olivaw-Daneel ( talk) 00:44, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
I am looking for a work that seems to be either a detective or a political or spy thriller. I only remember the beginning of the piece. A guy found a derelict computer, sat down at it and started to do something, and then he saw a man with a gun walk up to the desk, the guy automatically pressed the enter button and the man shot him back. The work came out in the 1990s. The work came out no later than the 1990s (maybe sooner). I also remember that the guy was doing something enthusiastically on the computer: at first he was typing without looking at the screen, but the message on the computer monitor made him do his work more slowly and carefully. The phrases went something like this. The message on the computer screen made him work more carefully. There was a man standing at the desk, a gun in his hand. The guy had never seen a real gun except in movies, but he knew right away what it was. The guy's hand mechanically fell on the Enter button and that second the black muzzle of the gun burst into flames, ending his life. Vyacheslav84 ( talk) 17:01, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
A few weeks ago I nominated the 1828 American novel Rachel Dyer for featured article status. I drafted the article myself and saw it through good article status already. Being the first novel about the Salem witch trials and having an important influence on later American novelists, I wonder if someone from this Wikiproject would be willing to comment on the nomination before it is archived for inactivity. Here's the nomination. Thanks in advance for any attention it may get! Dugan Murphy ( talk) 20:37, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
For policy or technical reasons, editors are restricted from linking to the following, without exception: Policy: material that violates the copyrights of others per contributors' rights and obligations should not be linked, whether in an external-links section or in a citation. ... Knowingly directing others to material that violates copyright might be considered contributory copyright infringement.
These policy violations should be removed from all Harry Potter articles: please mark them done as you replace or remove the ELNEVER accio-quote references.
SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 17:04, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
I would like to have a second opinion in the wording for these two introductions for The Hunchback of Notre-Dame just between these two version current version and the oldversion, please add your opinion in the discussion page here. Thanks! as promised, here is the discussion @ Stephanie921 —MCarlos (talk) MCarlos ( talk) 16:26, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Readers of the novels by Tony Hillerman may be interested to edit the article about his character Joe Leaphorn, as the entire article has been put up for speedy deletion here. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 06:36, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Twilight (Meyer novel)#Requested move 29 October 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 00:58, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
There is a proposal about the scope and potential renaming of this article, for which other editors' input is welcome. MartinPoulter ( talk) 15:02, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Talk:James Joyce § Should the article have an infobox I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 20:41, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
The Awkward Age (Henry James novel) is suffering badly from citation needed, MOS:WEASEL, maybe other problems.
Can anyone take a look?
- 189.122.243.241 ( talk) 16:38, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Where do we draw the line for who is a main character and who isn't in a book? Ijustlikefootball ( talk) 14:09, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
In the past I began adding new article novels to sections containing "Publication History" (for example After the Fire, A Still Small Voice) Years ago I was told not to add such sections, so I stopped adding them. Is everyone happy for me to delete the sections from all the past book articles that I created? (Or should I start adding them) Thanks GrahamHardy ( talk) 18:37, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Penguin Random House has uploaded book covers and more for popular titles on Wikimedia Commons under a free license. The covers are the German versions. I replaced the non-free pictures File:Necromancer.jpg, File:StrataPratchett.jpg, File:Fantastic Voyage Novel.jpg with free versions File:Der unheimliche Geisterrufer (Michael Scott, 2011).jpg, File:Strata oder die Flachwelt (Terry Pratchett, 1983).jpg and File:Die phantastische Reise (Isaac Asimov, 1983).jpg. Original uploader of the non-free images User:GrahamHardy is of the opinion that the English language non-free covers should be used.
Hekerui ( talk) 10:38, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
I have opened a WP:Peer review request for Mars in fiction in preparation for WP:Featured article nomination, see Wikipedia:Peer review/Mars in fiction/archive1. Any and all feedback would be appreciated. TompaDompa ( talk) 21:16, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Hello. I am Looking for one book. I only remember the beginning of the piece. Some guy found a derelict computer, sat down at it and started doing something, and then he saw a man with a gun walk up to the desk, they looked at each other in silence for a while, then the guy mechanically pressed the Enter button and the man shot him back. The work was read in the 1990s or very early 2000s. The piece appeared no later than the 1990s (probably earlier). I also remember that the guy was doing something enthusiastically on the computer: at first he typed without looking at the screen, but the message on the computer monitor made him do his work more slowly and carefully. The phrases went something like this. The message on the computer screen made him work more carefully. Behind the desk stood a man with a gun in his hand. The guy had never seen a real gun, except in the movies, but he knew immediately what it was. The guy's hand dropped mechanically to the Enter button, and the same second the black muzzle of the gun burst into flames, ending his life. Thank you in advance. Vyacheslav84 ( talk) 18:53, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Project-independent quality assessments. This proposes support for quality assessment at the article level, recorded in {{ WikiProject banner shell}}, and inherited by the wikiproject banners. However, wikiprojects that prefer to use custom approaches to quality assessment can continue to do so. Aymatth2 ( talk) 20:55, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
If a work was serialized before being published, should this count as the publication date? What if the work were serialized over two years? I think sticking to independent publication date is generally better because 1. it's simpler and can't stretch over two years; 2. there might be substantial changes between the serialized and the final versions; and 3. I think this is the more common was of determining publication date.
However, I can't find explicit guidance on this. Can anyone point out what I've missed, or offer a suggestion? CohenTheBohemian ( talk) 12:02, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi, this is only tangentially related, but if you are trying to model serialized book data on Wikidata, I am interested in developing a consensus. So far I have this list on my Wikidata sandbox of two different ways to model a serial work (under "Serial work"). Rachel Helps (BYU) ( talk) 16:40, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Peter Grant (book series)#Requested move 16 February 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ❯❯❯ Raydann (Talk) 07:58, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
Y'all may want to take a look at this unsourced addition: [3] 76.14.122.5 ( talk) 18:13, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Terry Pratchett has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Olivaw-Daneel ( talk) 03:05, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Hi! I'm working with a small group of mostly-librarians to launch a new Wikimedia campaign focused on books, #EveryBookItsReader. Please let me know if you have any questions. Bridges2Information ( talk) 01:09, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Hi, recently another user has been adding more details to the character list on Twilight (Meyer novel). I'm not sure the character list adds that much to the page, and I'd like to remove it entirely. However, I'm not sure what the current consensus on character lists for book pages is. Are people still making them? Do some people like them? Rachel Helps (BYU) ( talk) 20:53, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at
Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent
Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class=
parameter to {{
WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.
No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{ WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.
However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{
WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom
parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present.
Aymatth2 (
talk) 17:36, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
Should the "WikiProject Novels" tag be added to the talk pages of novelists, or only novels? 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 20:43, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
I have noticed that a lot of articles on novellas are inconsistently categorised - some have categories relating to novels, and others have categories relating to short stories. Some use the short short template and some use the novel template. I have created Category:Novellas by decade to try and assist with properly categorising novellas by date. McPhail ( talk) 09:15, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
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You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Content assessment#Proposal: Reclassification of Current & Future-Classes as time parameter, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. This WikiProject received this message because it currently uses "Current" and/or "Future" class(es). There is a proposal to split these two article "classes" into a new parameter "time", in order to standardise article-rating across Wikipedia ( per RfC), while also allowing simultaneous usage of quality criteria and time for interest projects. Thanks! — CX Zoom[he/him] ( let's talk • { C• X}) 06:49, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
This novel is the fourth of the series in chronological order.
Am I alone in worrying that this is ambiguous between publication date and internal sequence? The word chronological means 'concerning time', and it's not obvious that it should refer to one of the two relevant kinds of time and not the other. When it's clear I sometimes change the wording. Wonder whether it's worth discussing a policy on this. — Tamfang ( talk) 21:33, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
Please help us settle a dispute over whether to merge the page Uchronia to Alternate history; see the full discussion here: Talk:Uchronia#Merge to Alternate history. Wolfdog ( talk) 23:53, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
Would some members of this WikiProject take a look at Carol Sklenicka? The article seems to start out as a BLP about Sklenicka but the focus then shifts to being mainly about two of her books. Perhaps there's enough about each of these books per WP:NBOOK for separate articles to be created about each of these books? -- Marchjuly ( talk) 23:54, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
An article which may be of interest to members of this project— Frankenstein's Promethean dimension —has been proposed for merging with Victor Frankenstein. If you are interested, please follow the (Discuss) link at the top of the article to participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. — Alalch E. 23:48, 6 September 2023 (UTC) — Alalch E. 23:48, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Please participate in a Request for Comments at Talk:Maske:_Thaery#RFC_on_Plot_Summary. Maske: Thaery is a 1976 novel by Jack Vance. The question in the RFC is which version of the plot summary should be used. Robert McClenon ( talk) 20:03, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
I have nominated George Moore (novelist) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 ( talk) 14:41, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
The longest work of early American fiction, Brother Jonathan by John Neal, is nominated for featured article status. Here's the nomination page if you're interested. Dugan Murphy ( talk) 17:04, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
I am copy pasting this notification from my talk page to get input. All opinions welcome.
Category:Outer space in fiction has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. 4meter4 ( talk) 15:57, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
Woulds someone from WP:NOVELS mind taking a look at Chinese Cinderella: The Mystery of the Song Dynasty Painting and assessing it per WP:NBOOK. It's be tagged with {{ Unreferenced}} since October 2012 and doesn't look like it's been improved much since then. In it's current state, it doesn't appear to be anything other that a plot summary; moreover, a Google search of the book's title gets some hits, but nothing that seems to resemble any type of critical review. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 01:04, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
Originally published in paperback as Chinese Cinderella: The Mystery of the Song Dynasty Painting...
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Janissaries series to be moved to Janissaries (series). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. — RMCD bot 01:48, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Hiya! I've been discussing an article with a newer user (@ Samuel Adrian Antz) and would like a second opinion on original research and primary sourcing in articles about novels.
Notability of the books aside, are sections like Dichronauts#Background (mathematics and physics) and The Eternal Flame (novel)#Background (mathematics and physics) good to keep? Personally it feels like either synthesis or over reliance on primary sources, is there an exception in fictional works? Just i yaya 16:30, 10 January 2024 (UTC)