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JBW has kindly given 2A00:23C8:9FB7:5C00:0:0:0:0/64 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · block user · block log) a 3-month holiday; see diff. If you come across new instances of this nuisance, feel free to post on my TP; and if there's enough of a pattern I'll assemble another depthcharge. Narky Blert ( talk) 21:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's welcome news. If they return, one option is to
request an edit filter to prevent unconfirmed editors from replacing "Foo (qualifier)|Foo" by "Foo" in links from "List of Hindi films of yyyy", or perhaps with slightly broader scope. Most of their contributions include differences following that pattern, their
final effort including several changes such as replacing
Footpath (1953 film)|Footpath by the less relevant
Footpath.
Certes (
talk) 00:06, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's an excellent idea. I can envisage a filter which could be precise and straightforward. If I collect a couple of new throwaway IPs, I'll file a request. Narky Blert ( talk) 14:28, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
-
This page shows IP edits to Indian films by year within the last 30 days. Most are good-faith improvements, but most edits with significant negative size changes e.g. (–123) are likely to be of interest. The damage was extensive, but everything seems to have been reverted. I suspect that an enthusiastic editor has their own "master copy" of each page offline. From time to time they make a minor improvement to one and upload it to Wikipedia, overwriting everyone else's edits since their last upload.
Certes (
talk) 22:34, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- My test would be for Hindi films of xxxx/IP/negative size/links to DAB and/or name pages. A Mk 1 eyeball scan of your list suggests that would catch everything with no false positives (and everything like that had already been reverted). I'm not so sure about working off-wiki; I've earlier seen a couple of instances where they returned immediately after a big edit to introduce an error they'd overlooked. Narky Blert ( talk) 08:00, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Editors who watch this page may be interested in Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)#Articles for Creation/Disambiguations. Certes ( talk) 08:11, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
needs moving to Cydonia (disambiguation) by someone with the right access. The region of Mars is now the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and should hatnote to the dab page. The ancient Greek city and genus should be handled more prominently as the next two most likely things readers would be looking for but that's less of an issue. — LlywelynII 05:08, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- @
LlywelynII: You can make technical move requests at
WP:RMTR, if you believe it's uncontroversial. Otherwise, start a regular
WP:RM. Incidentally, it seems premature to have
reorganized the dab page before any such moves. Regards.—
Bagumba (
talk) 06:33, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- The primary topics are the primary topics, regardless of where the page is (mis)parked. Cf. MOS:DABORDER.
- WP:RMTR is just a clearinghouse for the requests. If any of the admins able to do the work there are keeping an eye on dabs at all, they'd notice this here and either handle it or point out any issue. Random admins there might not be as clear on dab policy minutiae that might impact this. (Ditto nonadmins watching this page who might have an opinion on the rearrangement.) — LlywelynII 06:34, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- @
LlywelynII I agree that
WP:RM is the way to request this move, but I don't agree that Mars is clearly the PT. The statistics from
Wikinav appear to show that when people land on the disambiguation page
Cydonia they are more likely to move to
Kydonia than to
Cydonia (Mars), and there is certainly not an overwhelming majority looking for the Mars location.
Pam
D 21:57, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Clearly is per Google but if our stats are different for our readers, then sure. I'll just move the pair to the top of the page and leave it where it is. Stuff like this is why I wasn't looking for a procedural rubber stamp. — LlywelynII 00:26, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#RFC new R5 for a proposal to make RDAB errors a speedy criteria. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 19:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Mike Hall#Requested move 6 April 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mike Hall#Requested move 6 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 10:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a discussion here about whether to move Kritika (disambiguation) to Kritika. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 22:32, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
I have posted this in the Australian Wikipedians project as well, but it has occurred to me that perhaps it should perhaps be a DAB, or there should be a separate DAB, and it would be good to have some input from DAB experts. See Talk:Adelaide University. There are lots of incoming links, plus a host of articles on things (mostly clubs) affiliated with the university beginning with "Adelaide University" rather than " University of Adelaide". I'm not sure which is the best way to go here. If the current one is converted into a DAB, it would still mean changing all the incoming links. And in the transition period, there's bound to be a lot of confusion. I don't know when the actual merger and new name will be finalised - I suspect that it will drag on beyond 2026, as it's already taken so long to get to this point. It will be a new entity, and I have no idea whether the clubs, union, etc. will retain their current names. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 05:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- What is the primary topic for "Adelaide University" – the existing University of Adelaide, the proposed combined institution, or none of the above?
Certes (
talk) 12:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Well it's difficult to know what it would be in the future, but at the moment I'd say its the University of Adelaide, as it's used interchangeably.
Laterthanyouthink (
talk) 12:31, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Then at the moment we should probably restore
Adelaide University as a
primary redirect to its current primary topic
University of Adelaide, after moving the new article to
Adelaide University (some qualifier goes here). We should then revisit the titles
if and when the existing institution ceases to be a primary topic for "Adelaide University".
Certes (
talk) 12:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks very much for the advice. I may not get to it for a couple of days as I'm going away, but I think that this sounds sensible.
Laterthanyouthink (
talk) 13:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- I know the links are wrong but it may be wise to wait a day or two in case someone replies with a better idea.
Certes (
talk) 13:19, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. I'll be away anyway. 😊 Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 14:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- I know the links are wrong but it may be wise to wait a day or two in case someone replies with a better idea.
Certes (
talk) 13:19, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks very much for the advice. I may not get to it for a couple of days as I'm going away, but I think that this sounds sensible.
Laterthanyouthink (
talk) 13:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Then at the moment we should probably restore
Adelaide University as a
primary redirect to its current primary topic
University of Adelaide, after moving the new article to
Adelaide University (some qualifier goes here). We should then revisit the titles
if and when the existing institution ceases to be a primary topic for "Adelaide University".
Certes (
talk) 12:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Well it's difficult to know what it would be in the future, but at the moment I'd say its the University of Adelaide, as it's used interchangeably.
Laterthanyouthink (
talk) 12:31, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Are you still operating the program, new students 2600:1004:B265:3A2:C015:335A:4A53:9CE ( talk) 18:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- There is no specific program for disambiguation, but you may be interested in Wikipedia:Education program. Certes ( talk) 19:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
| This is the
talk page for discussing
WikiProject Disambiguation and anything related to its purposes and tasks. |
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|
| Disambiguation | |||
| ||||
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| For discussion related to disambiguation on Wikipedia but not to the project, please see Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation (for general disambiguation) or the Manual of Style (for specific style questions). |
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Index
1,
2,
3,
4,
5,
6,
7,
8,
9,
10 |
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This page has archives. Sections older than 30 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 4 sections are present. |
JBW has kindly given 2A00:23C8:9FB7:5C00:0:0:0:0/64 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · block user · block log) a 3-month holiday; see diff. If you come across new instances of this nuisance, feel free to post on my TP; and if there's enough of a pattern I'll assemble another depthcharge. Narky Blert ( talk) 21:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's welcome news. If they return, one option is to
request an edit filter to prevent unconfirmed editors from replacing "Foo (qualifier)|Foo" by "Foo" in links from "List of Hindi films of yyyy", or perhaps with slightly broader scope. Most of their contributions include differences following that pattern, their
final effort including several changes such as replacing
Footpath (1953 film)|Footpath by the less relevant
Footpath.
Certes (
talk) 00:06, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's an excellent idea. I can envisage a filter which could be precise and straightforward. If I collect a couple of new throwaway IPs, I'll file a request. Narky Blert ( talk) 14:28, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
-
This page shows IP edits to Indian films by year within the last 30 days. Most are good-faith improvements, but most edits with significant negative size changes e.g. (–123) are likely to be of interest. The damage was extensive, but everything seems to have been reverted. I suspect that an enthusiastic editor has their own "master copy" of each page offline. From time to time they make a minor improvement to one and upload it to Wikipedia, overwriting everyone else's edits since their last upload.
Certes (
talk) 22:34, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- My test would be for Hindi films of xxxx/IP/negative size/links to DAB and/or name pages. A Mk 1 eyeball scan of your list suggests that would catch everything with no false positives (and everything like that had already been reverted). I'm not so sure about working off-wiki; I've earlier seen a couple of instances where they returned immediately after a big edit to introduce an error they'd overlooked. Narky Blert ( talk) 08:00, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Editors who watch this page may be interested in Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)#Articles for Creation/Disambiguations. Certes ( talk) 08:11, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
needs moving to Cydonia (disambiguation) by someone with the right access. The region of Mars is now the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and should hatnote to the dab page. The ancient Greek city and genus should be handled more prominently as the next two most likely things readers would be looking for but that's less of an issue. — LlywelynII 05:08, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- @
LlywelynII: You can make technical move requests at
WP:RMTR, if you believe it's uncontroversial. Otherwise, start a regular
WP:RM. Incidentally, it seems premature to have
reorganized the dab page before any such moves. Regards.—
Bagumba (
talk) 06:33, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- The primary topics are the primary topics, regardless of where the page is (mis)parked. Cf. MOS:DABORDER.
- WP:RMTR is just a clearinghouse for the requests. If any of the admins able to do the work there are keeping an eye on dabs at all, they'd notice this here and either handle it or point out any issue. Random admins there might not be as clear on dab policy minutiae that might impact this. (Ditto nonadmins watching this page who might have an opinion on the rearrangement.) — LlywelynII 06:34, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- @
LlywelynII I agree that
WP:RM is the way to request this move, but I don't agree that Mars is clearly the PT. The statistics from
Wikinav appear to show that when people land on the disambiguation page
Cydonia they are more likely to move to
Kydonia than to
Cydonia (Mars), and there is certainly not an overwhelming majority looking for the Mars location.
Pam
D 21:57, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Clearly is per Google but if our stats are different for our readers, then sure. I'll just move the pair to the top of the page and leave it where it is. Stuff like this is why I wasn't looking for a procedural rubber stamp. — LlywelynII 00:26, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#RFC new R5 for a proposal to make RDAB errors a speedy criteria. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 19:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Mike Hall#Requested move 6 April 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mike Hall#Requested move 6 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 10:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a discussion here about whether to move Kritika (disambiguation) to Kritika. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 22:32, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
I have posted this in the Australian Wikipedians project as well, but it has occurred to me that perhaps it should perhaps be a DAB, or there should be a separate DAB, and it would be good to have some input from DAB experts. See Talk:Adelaide University. There are lots of incoming links, plus a host of articles on things (mostly clubs) affiliated with the university beginning with "Adelaide University" rather than " University of Adelaide". I'm not sure which is the best way to go here. If the current one is converted into a DAB, it would still mean changing all the incoming links. And in the transition period, there's bound to be a lot of confusion. I don't know when the actual merger and new name will be finalised - I suspect that it will drag on beyond 2026, as it's already taken so long to get to this point. It will be a new entity, and I have no idea whether the clubs, union, etc. will retain their current names. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 05:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- What is the primary topic for "Adelaide University" – the existing University of Adelaide, the proposed combined institution, or none of the above?
Certes (
talk) 12:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Well it's difficult to know what it would be in the future, but at the moment I'd say its the University of Adelaide, as it's used interchangeably.
Laterthanyouthink (
talk) 12:31, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Then at the moment we should probably restore
Adelaide University as a
primary redirect to its current primary topic
University of Adelaide, after moving the new article to
Adelaide University (some qualifier goes here). We should then revisit the titles
if and when the existing institution ceases to be a primary topic for "Adelaide University".
Certes (
talk) 12:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks very much for the advice. I may not get to it for a couple of days as I'm going away, but I think that this sounds sensible.
Laterthanyouthink (
talk) 13:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- I know the links are wrong but it may be wise to wait a day or two in case someone replies with a better idea.
Certes (
talk) 13:19, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. I'll be away anyway. 😊 Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 14:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- I know the links are wrong but it may be wise to wait a day or two in case someone replies with a better idea.
Certes (
talk) 13:19, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks very much for the advice. I may not get to it for a couple of days as I'm going away, but I think that this sounds sensible.
Laterthanyouthink (
talk) 13:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Then at the moment we should probably restore
Adelaide University as a
primary redirect to its current primary topic
University of Adelaide, after moving the new article to
Adelaide University (some qualifier goes here). We should then revisit the titles
if and when the existing institution ceases to be a primary topic for "Adelaide University".
Certes (
talk) 12:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Well it's difficult to know what it would be in the future, but at the moment I'd say its the University of Adelaide, as it's used interchangeably.
Laterthanyouthink (
talk) 12:31, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Are you still operating the program, new students 2600:1004:B265:3A2:C015:335A:4A53:9CE ( talk) 18:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- There is no specific program for disambiguation, but you may be interested in Wikipedia:Education program. Certes ( talk) 19:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC)