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It appears that the Harry Potter task force covers the entire franchise, and as such WikiProject Novels tags are appearing on biographies of people related to the franchise. Since biographies of novelists are generally not considered a part of the project (I checked on Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky and Dickens), the biographies of these people should not come under this either. Other suspect task forces include Twilight and Percy Jackson, though I haven't checked on them. These should be moved either to Media or to Children's Literature (not Twilight), or other options should be considered. Bubka42 ( talk) 08:45, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Category:Novelists that would create very significant changes, and I thought people at this project might want to weigh in on it. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 01:29, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
I have nominated Starship Troopers for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. GamerPro64 19:20, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello -- I have recently been improving the pages describing Conrad Richter’s 1966 trilogy of novels The Awakening Land by adding references, writing style, major themes, images, etc. While doing this, I noticed that the plot summary on the page describing Richter’s second novel in the trilogy, The Fields (which was created by another editor), is different in several major aspects from the plot I read in my original edition copy issued by Alfred A. Knopf.
I have since learned (through Amazon.com reviews) that a “revised” edition of The Awakening Land was issued in 1993 by the Ohio University Press that was rewritten by the publishers to include scenes that Conrad Richter never wrote in the original novels.
I have since re-written the plot summary on this page so that it reflects the original novel, but I also think the whole issue of this original vs. revised edition needs to be addressed on Wikipedia. I think it is important that future users who come to these Wikipedia articles are aware that there is a revised edition of this trilogy out there, because they may wonder (like I did) why the plot summary on Wikipedia may differ from the one they read.
Some examples of plot differences in The Fields that I noticed from the original plot summary include:
A Teahouse host said that addressing these plot differences on Wikipedia is probably something notable that would make a reasonable addition to the articles. He suggested that I post this issue on the Talk page of the novel and at the Wikipedia Novels forum for discussion. He also suggested that for now I might want to add a brief section to the pages for this trilogy, stating simply that there is a revised edition of this trilogy and that the plots are significantly different.
I plan to find out as much as I can about the revised edition of this trilogy (probably by tracking down a copy at a library and reading it myself; also by looking for independent sources that can be used as references) so that I can address it fully on Wikipedia. Is there anyone else out there who is familiar with either of the editions of this trilogy and can help me? Thanks for any advice. Perpetual Reader ( talk) 15:08, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
File:Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.pdf ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 03:42, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello, |
Changes to streamline the way Infobox book displays the date of publication and publisher from multiple fields into one (using a standardised format) and to remove the "(s)" in "Author(s)" etc. in line with other infoboxes have been suggested. Please read and give your opinion there. -- xensyria T 17:48, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
see talk:Edogawa Rampo for discussion on the name of this novelist -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 05:41, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Dear readers: This article has been in Afc for nearly three weeks. Would anyone like to review it? — Anne Delong ( talk) 20:53, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
I've been working on John Barth's The End of the Road for some time, aiming at polishing it up for a Featured Article nomination (it's now a Good Article). It looks like the following books (that I have no access to) have substantial information on The End of the Road (up to full chapters):
It would be great if anyone who has access tot hese books could use them to contribute to the article. I live in Japan, so I can't access them either online or in the library, and I haven't found copies that fit my budget. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Curly Turkey ( gobble) 05:17, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
As there are now multiple reviews of this available and the release is just days away, I just converted Bleeding Edge from a redirect into a stub. Not my usual subject area, so it would be great if others could jump in now and develop this further given what an important writer Pynchon is. Cheers, postdlf ( talk) 16:45, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
You might be interested in this list, as it includes multimedia franchises with literary components. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:51, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
I have moved the below from the relevant User talk pages to garner wider input :
Author | John Barth |
---|---|
Country | U.S. |
Language | English |
Genre | Novel |
Publication date | 1958 |
Preceded by | The Floating Opera |
Followed by | The Sot-Weed Factor |
Keep in mind as well that there is no policy impelling editors to include an infobox. Removing it entirely is also an option—as the primary editor of the article, it would be my prerogative. I'd prefer that option to having a pointlessly long infobox that gives tangential details like the Dewey decimal number. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 22:54, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
I've taken this to Manual of Style/Infoboxes. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 23:17, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Author | John Barth |
---|---|
Language | English |
Genre | Novel |
Media type | Print [?] |
813.5 |
Some balance is required. No parameters are required. An open mind is required.
Images: Looking at some Wikipedia:FA#Literature_and_theatre layouts, we can see that there are numerous standard options for image: 1st edition cover, 2nd edition cover, stack of various editions, frontispiece, 1st page, the author, or nothing at all.
Personally, I'm a visually-oriented person, so I'd find the absence of an image to be disconcerting, therefore I'd suggest some sort of image is good, but the choice is up to the article-editors. I'm inclined towards the "stack of various editions" as the ideal choice, unless a book-author was particularly fond of a certain cover.
ISBN: This book was published prior to the invention of the ISBN system in 1965. I've pointed out before, that one of the legitimate objections the "infobox-skeptics" raise, is people trying to shoehorn as many values into an infobox as possible.
E.g. Candide included the parameter "ISBN: NA" for many years. That is exactly the kind of thing that editors who are frustrated by infoboxes, are correct about. That parameter should be hidden/unused there! "ISBN: NA" is a true statement about the first printing of that book, but it's not ideal infobox material. The only two purposes it serves, are: (1) Tangenting a reader's focus into learning that ISBN is a recent invention. (2) As an editor-reminder, to prevent anyone from adding an ISBN that points to some random ("The Definitive RandomPenguin Candide") modern printing.
E.g. 2. Nineteen Eighty-Four (published in 1949) currently has an ISBN pointing to a 2003 edition by the US publisher Plume (founded 1970) - that hurts my brain on so many levels.
Better Documentation: I made specific suggestions at the Arbcom/Infoboxes case, regarding details that should be explicitly stated in places like Template:Infobox book/doc and MOS:INFOBOX. That's what would have prevented the misunderstandings above. In due time, this will be achieved, but everyone has to be patient and willing to engage in friendly open-minded discussion in order to get there.
HTH. – Quiddity ( talk) 21:34, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
I've edited the article itself, to implement some of the suggestions. I suggest we move that specific discussion (if further discussion is even needed) to the article's talkpage. If anyone wants to debate the abstract issues, then continue the threads above here. – Quiddity ( talk) 23:25, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello, WikiProject Novels. I would like to hear your opinions on noting the amazon.com "Customer Reviews" score in an article, similar to how a film-article sometimes mention the IMDB/RT/MetaCritic score. It would be something like " Amazon.com´s Customer Reviews give a score of 2.6/5, based on 140 reviews (oct 2013)." Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 17:24, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Proposal to establish new guideline on treating franchises, characters, and such as broad concepts or primary topics is made. Feel free to weigh in. -- George Ho ( talk) 04:50, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Any and all input would be greatly appreciated! See discussion here. Corvoe (speak to me) 03:29, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi WikiProject Novels! I got here via the Wikify drive and found an entry that needed way more than formatting and citation cleanup. The Ballad of the Sad Café originally only referenced the novella, even though it's actually a collection of short stories. Two of the other stories were published as separate novels that have their own wikipages. The novella by the same name is the only other title in the collection that seems to be particularly notable; the other short stories have little if any critical reviews as far as I can tell. What is standard wiki procedure for an article on a collection like this? Should it get a brief article with each story getting its own wiki page, or a longer one with information on each story kept within the collection's article? I don't want to duplicate information from The Heart is a Lonely Hunter and Reflections in a Golden Eye -- do I just point to their pages and be done with it? "Sad Cafe" clearly needs a good writeup as there is considerable scholarship about it, but what do I do with the other stories? Thanks for any help! SarahTheEntwife ( talk) 14:10, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Editors involved in this project may be interested in a discussion at Template talk:Infobox book series#"Publisher" Wikilinked?. In short: Should the parameter "Publisher" be wikilinked in the template? Cnilep ( talk) 03:55, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Currently novelist redirects to the novel, but as is pretty apparent that the concept of a novelist is not a topic being covered well throughout that article. I started a draft at Draft:Novelist with some sourcing, and the beginnings of an outline, and would appreciate help writing and researching the topic. Thanks much, Sadads ( talk) 21:24, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
The article for Will Eisner's graphic novel A Contract with God has recently become a Good Article. I'm planning on nominating it as a Featured Article Candidate and would appreciate any feedback to help it get there. The Peer Review is here, so please stop by! Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 08:20, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
I've archived some inactive threads to subsections which were notifications about discussions that have since been closed. — Cirt ( talk) 04:10, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
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Hello all.
After some discussion at Talk:Dune (novel), I wondered if there would be support for a Task Force on the Dune universe? To paraphrase User:Sadads, there would be about 600-700 pages in total. Need the support of a fair handful of editors before it would go ahead to prevent it going stale.
Any thoughts? -- S.G.(GH) ping! 10:49, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
This discussion may be of interest. -- Rob Sinden ( talk) 08:54, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
There is a conversation going on at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 March 4#Male writers about the gendered categorization of author pages (particularly whether to use "men" or "male" writers). Further voices would be appreciated to develop a consensus on the standard amongst writer articles, Sadads ( talk) 19:20, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian literature seems inactive so I'm asking this here: Is the Australian novelist, lawyer, and lecturer Debora Burrows (A Stranger in my Street, Taking a Chance) notable enough to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines?
Please add your comments near the top of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Deborah Burrows, using the form
Please place it below any similar comments but above the ---- line. Thanks. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 18:39, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Contributors to this WikiProject are invited to comment at Talk:Wena Poon#Autobiography?. The article appears to be an autobiography by a novelist. Several of the novelist's works have been reviewed in various publications. Cnilep ( talk) 04:24, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Having written dozens of FAs for other projects, I am seriously considering revamping the articles for Daniel Quinn's Ishmael series: Ishmael, The Story of B, My Ishmael, and Beyond Civilization. The hope would be to get them all through FAC. However, I have never written an article that falls under this WikiProject, so I made need help with sourcing. So far, I have found brief reviews at Publishers Weekly and Kirkus. Daniel Quinn himself also pointed me to a book called Roadmap to Sustainability: Interpreting Daniel Quinn by Doug Brown on Lulu, but I'm not sure if I can cite it. If so, it may end up being the most comprehensive examination of the philosophy promoted by these works. Quinn also pointed me to A Companion for Ishmael, a document geared towards helping teachers use the material in schools. Lastly, he sent me a master's thesis for a student at The City University of New York which seems to cite his work extensively, but I strongly doubt it could be used.
Otherwise I can work from the website, ishmael.org. By searching Google Books, I have found many environmental or religious books that make mention of these books, particularly the first in the series. However, most that I looked at simply reiterated the contents of the books (or their interpretations) and then wove them into their own thesis. For the sake of comprehensiveness, I'm not sure if these will need to be mentioned.
If what I've listed is all that's available, and if most of it isn't usable, then I may need guidance on how to organize what may end up being very short but comprehensive FACs.
If anyone knows of other sources that could provide more in-depth analysis, please let me know. Given how popular these books have been and how schools and universities use them in their teaching, I'd think that someone would have written a professional analysis. The problem is that I'm not sure how to find such sources, if they exist. (And FYI, I've already tried everything on your Resources help page.) – Maky « talk » 01:16, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
In August last year, all publication data in {{
infobox book}} was merged into one new |published=
parameter. Work began on migrating existing uses to the new format, until
questions were
raised about the effect this had on
data granularity.
Any input and suggestions on a proposed fix, which keeps the new one-line per edition formatting while providing full data granularity would be much appreciated ( centralised discussion here). Thanks. ‑‑ xensyria T 23:52, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
I've got a dispute with Koavf over the article How We Are Hungry, which is about a novel by Dave Eggers. Koavf apparently feels that it is desirable to include a picture of Eggers in the article on the grounds that it adds "context." I have tried to explain to Koavf that a picture of a book's author explains nothing about the book itself and serves no useful purpose, but he has simply ignored me. Outside comments on the dispute would be welcome. FreeKnowledgeCreator ( talk) 22:22, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
I've nominated Portal:Children's literature to be considered for Featured Portal quality.
This was a joint quality improvement collaboration between myself and User:Wadewitz.
Participation would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Children's literature.
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Hello all!
I was hoping to get this up as a
WP:DYK when I started it, but I'm hopelessly caught up with my obsession for adding references for every phrase and punctuation mark. (As obsessions go, it's not such a bad one to have, but anyways.)
Could people with better article writing skills possibly help me out here?
I was thinking that the DYK "hook" could be about the character names:
"Creel Zmundzinksi, Cheri Wham, Frank Frink, Sedley Alwen",
"quirky characters with names to match - Creel Zmundzinski, Orion Horncrackle, the Rev. Jefford J. Pecker, Sage Brawls, Fiesta Punch, Gilbert Wolfscale and many, many more", and so on.
Your thoughts? Pete AU aka --
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I have proposed naming conventions for bibliographies here. Any constructive comments you are willing to provide there would be greatly appreciated. Neelix ( talk) 14:39, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I would be in favour of creating a new article for The Manny separate from author Holly Peterson's page. However, I have not read the novel, so it may be better if it were started by someone who has. Has anyone here read it yet? Zigzig20s ( talk) 10:11, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
I just nominated the article on the historical novelists Margaret George for deletion. Participation from people in this group would probably help. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 17:32, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Le Grand Meaulnes by Alain-Fournier has been renamed to The Wanderer, is this action justified? Just thought I'd flag it up as I know it only by its orginal name, but I may be in the minority... GrahamHardy ( talk) 09:52, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
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I am proposing a rename on this article; join in discussion. -- George Ho ( talk) 19:37, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
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doi: 10.1089/jwh.2014.4782 [1] is a study of female readers 18-24 of the 50 Shades trilogy. I was wondering how this should be integrated into the article(s). -- 65.94.169.222 ( talk) 05:42, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
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I'm planning to merge or redirect this page into Mason & Dixon, but I don't know which portions are important to summarize. Can anyone help me on inserting Plot Summary into the parent article? -- George Ho ( talk) 16:37, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
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Hi, there is currently a discussion taking place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#VG comments subpages regarding whether it would be acceptable to permanently shift all comments subpages associated with WP:VG articles into talk. This shift would follow the recommended approach given at WP:DCS. The WikiProject Novels articles that would be affected by this action are these:
If you have objections related specifically to WikiProject Novels' (or specifically the Chronicles of Narnia Taskforce's) use of these subpages, please make this clear at the discussion so that other unrelated talk pages can be cleaned up where appropriate. Thank you. - Thibbs ( talk) 15:56, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I have created User:Zigzig20s/My Policeman, and I was wondering if you thought it could be moved to a proper article as a stub, and/or how it could be expanded/improved. I could add a section with a listof characters. I could also flesh out the plot summary a little bit. There have been other reviews in The Times and other publications, but I don't have access to them. Are any of you able to find them? Thank you. Zigzig20s ( talk) 22:39, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I'm wondering if its possible to organize yet another task force or a WikiProject to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to light novels, as I did with WP:GHIBLI. The task force will be a descendant of WP:ANIME and WP:NOVEL and WP:JAPAN. I've started it in my sandbox. Thoughts or objections? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 04:31, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
As a follow-up, I've already started the project here. If anyone wants to help with the project, please do so. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 05:38, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Hours ago one anonymous visitor remarked at length concerning 'novel' and 'romance'; novel as content genre and as form genre; etc (my crude summary). See Talk:Novel#Inconsistency in use of term "genre".
I replied at length but in general regarding terms such as ' children's writer' and many others as well as ' novel' that appear routinely, and commonly linked, in the lead sections and infoboxes of writer and book articles. In closing, I asked:
-- P64 ( talk) 18:19, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
I didn't fully understand the original criticism, but Is the root problem here a confusion between the term romance as defined, say by Walter Scott, or more recently by Margaret Anne Doody, [1] and a recent genre fiction usage for a "love story" (see lede: Romance, as defined here, should not be confused with the genre fiction love romance or romance novel. Other European languages do not distinguish between romance and novel: "a novel is le roman, der Roman, il romanzo." [2]). See also my comments on the Novel Talk page, re the problem with this article. Rwood128 ( talk) 17:52, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps we aren't really discussing two distinct types of romance and that the only real difference between say Wuthering Heights and a genre fiction romance is that WH is better written and has better developed characters.
Also maybe the Wuthering Heights type of romance needs to be better defined as a sub-genre of the novel, from which the different kinds of genre fiction romance have subsequently evolved --and not just the love romance. At the moment romance, as defined by Scott and Doody, may be treated in the Novel article too much as a parallel genre and this has led to the confusion voiced recently? I'd suggest that while a romance is always also a novel, a novel isn't always a romance. Rwood128 ( talk) 21:14, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
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The instructions for Category:Child characters in literature ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) state "As with real children, the term refers to characters who are understood to be biologically and/or chronologically under age 21 during the course of a film in which they are depicted." The age of 20 is far beyond the age of childhood for science and numerous religions. The sourced info in our article child states "is generally a human between the stages of birth and puberty" and the sourced info in the puberty article gives the ages of 10-11 for girls and 11-12 for boys. I propose that we change the wording in the instructions to give the age of 12 as the cutoff for this category. Now if we want to use 13 or even 14 to error on the side of caution that would be okay but IMO this cat should not be in articles where the young characters are older than 14. Any and all input on this will be appreciated. When a consensus is reached we should add the new instructions to the cat page and to any appropriate MOS's. I am cross posting this at the books project as well. If there is a better place to centralize this discussion let me know and I will move it there. MarnetteD| Talk 20:15, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I've nominated the article for Laurence Hyde's wordless novel, Southern Cross (wordless novel), as a Featured Article Candidate. Please contribute to the review here. Thanks! Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 12:03, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
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I've started a new WikiProject for romance and thought I'd see if anyone was interested in joining? Since the scope encompasses more than books< I didn't feel like it could be solely a task force here or on WP:WPBIO. Anyway, I've got the bones set up and will keep working on getting guidelines and tasks hammered out. I'll definitely be pointing people here for the parts that overlap with this WP. Looking forward to getting it rolling and recruiting any interested members! :) plange ( talk) 02:34, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
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Noir fiction starts with the (to me) surprising diktat that
The section heading is from WP Film (which i visited for the first time last hour) where it originated as far as I know three months ago, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Archive 56#IP user and plot summaries.
Six weeks ago, evidently the same person (I posted what follows at WP Film talk too):
Contributions by user 2600:1006:B107:50A:B54A:54DC:4A42:DE45 covers a single 200-minute session 2015-05-10 quite destructive in some cases. The big changes reported in red primarily concern plot summaries. Some of the articles have not been changed subsequently (labeled "current" in that report) and I suppose that some others of the massive deletions remain intact. The High King is a novel I know and I reverted its change 15 hours go.
(end verbatim cross-post)
Commonly the summaries such as "cut the plot to the perfect size" cover simple deletion of whole paragraphs, as much as 80% of the bloated plot summary in one consecutive swath from its middle. -- P64 ( talk) 15:20, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
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Just informing all here that the Percy Jackson Task-force, under this wikiproject, is most likely about to change its scope to include all the works of children's author Rick Riordan (rather than just his two series about the character Percy Jackson). It may also be changing its name to the "Rick Riordan Task-force", but this is far from certain. I will post updates here as the changes are finalized. 2ReinreB2 ( talk) 03:25, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not#Expanding NOTPLOT. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 ( talk) 12:15, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
An RM that affects this project is currently taking place. Interested editors may wish to discuss here. Chase ( talk | contributions) 17:38, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Please take part in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#RfC: Are personal pronouns (including "who") to be avoided for fictional characters? Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 23:09, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Proposal regarding unusual prepositions in titles (re: clarification request in RM closure). — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 20:43, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello WikiProject Novels!
Based on the recommendation of Sadads, I am happy to announce that WikiProject X has selected this project as part of a round of pilot testing.
The goal of WikiProject X is to improve the WikiProject experience through research, design, and experimentation. On that basis, we've prepared a new WikiProject design template based around modules. These modules include features you are already familiar with, such as article alerts, but also new features such as automated work lists, a feed of discussions taking place on the 33,179 talk pages tagged by WikiProject Novels, and a new member profile system. To see what this new setup looks like, you can browse the first round of pilot tests: WikiProject Cannabis, WikiProject Evolutionary biology, WikiProject Ghana, WikiProject Hampshire, WikiProject Women's Health.
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A few of us are planning an informal project to improve and clean up the articles on the Aubrey-Maturin novels. We'll take the articles one by one, and work through slowly but methodically. Before we start, it would be useful to discuss generally what needs to be done and where we hope to end up. If you are interested, please have a look at Talk:Master and Commander#Aubrey-Maturin novels - planned improvement project. -- MichaelMaggs ( talk) 15:12, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Any comments at Talk:The Dark Fields#Requested move 30 September 2015 from members of this project would be appreciated. Thanks, Jenks24 ( talk) 09:45, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
I have created a new portal at Portal:Halo and nominated it for featured portal status at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Halo. Comments will be much appreciated. Thank you. sst✈ discuss 07:05, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
I am proposing some changes to {{ Infobox bibliography}}. See the discussion at Template talk:Infobox bibliography. RockMagnetist( talk) 01:26, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
The Percy Jackson Task-force is attempting to reach a consensus about changing its name to the "Rick Riordan Task-force". In brief, the proposal is that this new name will generalize its scope, so that it can stay alive and healthy for years to come. Please read and comment on the discussion here. Your advice is appreciated. -- 2ReinreB2 ( talk) 03:11, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Please see the RfC at Wikipedia talk:Categories, lists, and navigation templates#WP:BIDIRECTIONAL navbox requirements regarding consensus for WP:BIDIRECTIONAL. -- Rob Sinden ( talk) 16:10, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
I am proposing that an infobox be created for fictional conflicts, as currently many articles on fictional conflicts, as well as a real-time virtual battle, use Template:Infobox military conflict. To centralize discussion, please reply, if interested, at the infobox talk page I've linked to here.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me | See what I have done) 05:40, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
I have been doing a bit of copy editing on Agatha Christie book pages and have noticed a few oddities in the International titles sections of those pages. 1) How literal should the translations be? For example, on Mrs McGinty's Dead we see "French: Mrs McGinty est morte (Mrs McGinty is Dead)" and "Portuguese (Portugal): ... Mrs McGinty está Morta (Mrs McGinty's Dead)". Both of those would literally translate as "Mrs McGinty is Dead", but there is no difference in meaning between that and "Mrs McGinty's Dead". Should we leave them as the literal translations or not? 2) How should we style the translation of the title? Do we use the language in question's standards for title capitalization or the English standards? For example, on Curtain (novel) we see "French : Poirot quitte la scène (Poirot leaves the stage/Poirot gives up the stage)" using the French capitalization rules for the English translation and "Hungarian: Függöny (Poirot utolsó esete) (Curtain [Poirot's Last Case])" using the English rules for the English translation.-- Khajidha ( talk) 14:49, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
The work of so many Agatha Christie editors undone in an hour or two by the decision of two editors. One of the intriguing aspects of her novels is their popularity worldwide in English and in translation. Sales of her novels and short stories are so very high because of the worldwide appeal when they were written and continuing now, decades after the author died. Such a big decision made by two editors and it seems to be based on the titles being re-translated to English, a rather minor issue. My concern about the titles was no editor gave an ISBN for any title, though the books are reprinted in the era of ISBN. A full web site is compiled with the titles of Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey-Maturin series in various languages and linked to that article in the Publication History section (at this moment it is Ref number 27), as an example of a better treatment of showing the appeal of a novel written initially in English, to people who speak other languages. The Cadfael Chronicles, a series of 21 novels by Ellis Peters, were often translated to other languages. The Publication history section of each novel shows the titles in other languages, with ISBN or at least publisher, again showing the reach of the series, novel by novel. All three examples before us are British authors with an appeal beyond Britain, beyond the English speaking nations, to people who do not speak English, not reading the English version as a way to learn English. I think that is noteworthy, as not many authors have that appeal. Before you toss out all that work collecting the titles, you might consider collecting them in another Wikipedia article showing the extent of the worldwide popularity, and letting those who have mystery novels in languages other than English to organize them and find ISBN if they exist. Or open up the topic on the Talk page of each novel. Here is a third editor with a different view. I reverted the first article I encountered with the section blanking by Khajidha, expressing my views then in brief. Here they are fleshed out. I will not revert, knowing you believe the discussion above to be your authority and basis to alter all the articles on her novels. It would be nice to hear other voices on this. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 18:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
The novel has been translated into over xx languages, including...(properly sourced of course), but to list the translation to non-English titles is irrelevant. You could do the same on every article you can think of. Does it say on the Star Wars article that the film was released as La Guerre des Etoiles in French etc, etc? It's simply irrelevant and unencyclopedic. -- Rob Sinden ( talk) 09:45, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
No need to repeat what you said above Khajidha and Robsinden. I understand your views. Sorry we have not made much mutual progress in this discussion. Lists are often needed to prove the total, but I am beginning to think you two would eliminate all 'List of' articles or subsections in Wikipedia. List of award winners? Translation is not my big point here, but it is yours. The list is my big point, a list of books translated from one English original. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 09:48, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Opera hat Thanks for the clarification. In the article reverted by another editor, I moved the international titles into the Publication history section and used World Cat to find the publisher, translator if known, ISBN and year. I also deleted the title repeated in English -- that is, just the translated title is there. I wrote an introduction for the list with citations taken from the main article on Agatha Christie. Further, in the Edit version, the HTML that most editors will see (is that true, or is the visual editor still used a lot?) with a request to any editor adding a translated title to provide the necessary information in addition to the title. I think that editors who see the list now includes translator, publisher, cit, year, ISBN will follow suit. Further, I put an item in the talk page for the article. I did not find every translation at World Cat, so the notes to editors ask them to fill in the existing list as they can. If no documentation is found after some time (when more have read the article) then those unsourced translations can be handled. I think that is a reasonable way to do this. Sadads Yes, we have no consensus, so I understand that this is not a policy for articles about novels, but to be handled case by case. I read that entry for a best-seller -- all the information for a really well-written Wikipedia article on that novel. Plus an effort to explain, why is this novel a best seller? Thanks for pointing out that source. Khajidha and Robsinden, I read all you posted, find the last additions to be repeating your points. You might appreciate that I removed the re-translations of the foreign language titles that seemed to offend you in the start of this section, in the one article where I added source information. I hope this is clear and closed for now. I appreciate the discussion, learning much. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 21:42, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
This series an it's individual articles have the ability to being all GA articles, even FA. There's plenty of sources but each time I want to edit, I get lost in what I want to fix. Its mostly need of condensing some plot and reorganizing info. Lucia Black ( talk) 21:45, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
The usage and naming for Hero and Heroism and Heroine is under discussion, see talk:hero -- 70.51.44.60 ( talk) 05:34, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
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Hi. I am slightly new to Wikipedia (about a month) and have only been working on horse articles. Recently, I have created a novel article and I might need some help. If anyone could help, please do so. Thanks. Horsegeek (talk) 23:09, 14 February 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek
Link: User:Horsegeek/Spirit Animals (novel)
Spot survey: There was a recent RM to have Monica Dickens at (Monica Dickens novel). How much opposition is there to recognizable author names on all 20th Century book dabs? per (John Lennon song) not (Lennon song) etc. Most writers after Tolstoy are not recognizable as mononyms, how many editors are strongly opposed to full names? In ictu oculi ( talk) 13:05, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi there,
Here is a list of some ~700 books that have covers, but are listed as not having covers. I'm planning on going through them semi-automatically to remove the tag, unless someone here raises issue with it.
Tim 1357 talk| poke 23:18, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
P.S. Here is a gallery of the "needs-cover" articles with their respective cover images. Tim 1357 talk| poke 19:15, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
What should be done about novel articles which don't have or (perhaps?) don't require a front cover? For example, Sanditon, which is an unpublished book by Jane Austen, may not have a cover at all but is still notable. Ciridae ( talk) 07:02, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: In-universe name details of fictional characters, in article leads (concerning fictional characters as article subjects generally). — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 01:23, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
I asked a question as to whether the primary name of the page describing Camus' novel should be The Stranger or The Outsider; not receiving a response on the talk page, I thought this might be a better place.
What do you think, Team Novel(la)s? U+003F ? 07:56, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Greatly appreciated if someone wants to add a picture of the cover and expand this article. Thanks! Zigzig20s ( talk) 14:50, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Are there any (preferably reliable) sources for the number of words in books? Articles where length is important (say those at list of novellas) could benefit from this info, and it allows for better comparison than number of pages. U+003F ? 19:02, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
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Hi! I'm working on a report for the Signpost. Would anyone on WikiProject Doctor Who like to talk about their work here? Please ping me or reply here. Thanks! :) Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 03:24, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
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Who agrees that we should have a new taskforce concerning Lois Lowry's books? I mean, two of them have Newberry Medal awards. KangisLOL ( talk) 15:15, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
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Is there a reliable way to find the number of copies that a particular book has sold? I've been struggling through unhelpful web sources for a while now. Regards, Vanamonde93 ( talk) 10:20, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi everyone - I am working on sprucing up the Curse Worker's series by Holly Black (stumbled upon them one day, and as Wiki-things go, they pulled me in, wanting to improve them a bit). In any case, I am starting with White Cat by adding a reception section to the article. My question then is this, as I haven't really worked on book articles before: are there any particular places that the project looks for good critical reviews? I have pasted a few in my sandbox, but I am not sure if these will pass muster, as some of them seem a bit bloggy... In any case, any guidance provided will be of much help! I've also posted this question at WT:BOOKS. - Pax Verbum 02:48, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
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Category:Nineteen Eighty-Four locations, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for upmerging to Category:Nineteen Eighty-Four. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:42, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Folks, what are current opinions regarding [3] as a source? I'm not convinced about its reliability, but I want to be sure before I disregard it. Cheers, Vanamonde ( talk) 09:07, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
I'm going to post this in a few places just so it gets a good amount of people looking at the article in question. The article for Animal World, the first published book by Antonio di Benedetto, is up for deletion. It looks like there should be coverage out there, as there is mention here and there about the book getting various accolades including a national prize, but I can't really find much. This is partially because of the language barrier, as most coverage is going to be in Spanish, but it's also likely because most of the coverage predated the Internet and as such may not be on the Internet as a whole or in places that we'd all know to check.
Anyone here want to see what they can find? It might be a good chance for a WP:HEY rescue. (I promise that this is the last forum I'll post this at. It's just that I don't want this to get deleted if it's possible that it could be notable.) Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 10:01, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
Can it be advised to editors to make more use of the parameters preceded by and followed by in the infobox for books by the same author? I have seen the feature used on articles about books by one author that are not a series. I find it helpful, even when the article has a template with all the articles about the author or the books written by the author down at the end of the article, and never thought it was for series only, rather to link to the next book published by that author. Now that I use a mobile phone on occasion to read articles, the feature in the infobox shows up and can be used to navigate to the prior or next book by that author. Those handy templates do not appear on the mobile version. A point for discussion, as another editor keeps undoing the links in the articles on the six novels by Jane Austen, saying that only a series can use that feature. I posted this question at Wikiproject Books, as well. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 06:56, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
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Annnouncing RRTF's first Edit-A-Thon! In honor of his July 9 birthday, the Rick Riordan task force will be hosting an editing event focused on author/illustrator John Rocco. The event will last until the first day of August, when the most helpful contributor will be featured on RRTF's forums. More information can be found here on the talk page, where you may also post questions and comments (as always). Please consider helping out! -- 2ReinreB2 ( talk) 03:39, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
The spelling of a character's name was changed from Cathy to Kathy between editions of Killing Mr. Griffin, and there's been some disagreement about which one to use. I'm hoping some members of this project will weigh in on the article's talk page: Talk:Killing Mr. Griffin#Kathy or Cathy?. Thanks, Argento Surfer ( talk) 17:38, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
WP:RRTF has a draft in progress for a book which contains a gender-fluid character. There's been some discussion about how to describe the character, as they make a point in the books of discouraging the use of "they" or "she/he". Does anybody know of a policy to guide us? Or an example? Please leave suggestions on Draft talk:The Hammer of Thor. Thanks! -- 2ReinreB2 ( talk) 22:53, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I don't know why I didn't put this here straight away, apologies. I've started a discussion here. Any input would be gratefully received. Scribolt ( talk) 05:59, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi all. An isse was reported in WP Films about a series of "Country film by year" categories that were created without prior notification, and it was also mentioned that the same has happened in novels. I checked your Category hierarchy and it seems to me that such categories do not follow your categorization scheme. So I though of notifying you that up to now there have been created 59 Canadian novels by year categories populated by 488 articles, and 36 Swedish novels by year categories populated by 48 articles. Best regards, Hoverfish Talk 18:41, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
Note: the above also means that these articles have been removed both from Category:Novels by year and Category:Novels by country. Hoverfish Talk 22:01, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
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Hey all, I've just created an article for this year's Hugo-winning novel, The Obelisk Gate. I'd love any help in expanding it. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:57, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello. I've started The Mirror Thief. Please expand it if you can. Thank you! Zigzig20s ( talk) 21:33, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
There appears to be an error in the Books section of Fantômas. See Talk:Fantômas #Two books merged in translation?. (This note is going to WP:WikiProject Fictional characters, WP:WikiProject France, WP:WikiProject Comics, and WP:WikiProject Novels.) Thnidu ( talk) 01:53, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Editors are needed to help resolve a disagreement on the His Dark Materials page. Talk page discussion: Should we keep the Terminology and Pronunciation sections? Thanks. Popcornduff ( talk) 11:49, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
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Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.
A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_Novels
Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.— Rod talk 17:43, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
Join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Templates#Removal_of_historical_characters_from_navboxes.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:59, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
Hello! I'm working on improving The Book of the New Sun. What areas should I expand upon, what sections should I add, and do I need to trim any sections? And if anyone would like to help directly that would be much appreciated. Thanks! Pagliaccious ( talk) 15:51, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Hey book editors,
I'll be attending some of this week's BookExpo and BookCon. There will be an awful lot of well known authors there and I hope to take a few pictures. If there's an author article you've been working on that needs a photo, check bookexpoamerica.com and thebookcon.com to see if they'll be there and then ping me if so. No promises, of course, and unfortunately I don't have time to attend the whole thing, but if I'm there I'll do my best. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:53, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
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Announcing RRTF's second annual Edit-A-Thon! The event is being held June 23 through July 28 in honor of author Rick Riordan's June birthday and author/illustrator John Rocco's July birthday. The focus of the edit-a-thon will be on expanding Wikipedia's coverage of these two authors in an encyclopedic manner.
The Edit-A-Thon is open to all Wikipedia users - you do not need any experience with Riordan, Rocco, or RRTF! Help is needed in a variety of areas, including referencing, copyediting, and new page creation. Prizes will be given for first, second, and third place and will consist of a barnstar and Amazon gift card. To enter, please visit this page. The winners will be announced by July 31.
More information on rules and scoring can also be found on the contest page. Questions about the subject material should be left on the RRTF forums. Questions about the contest should be left on the contest Q&A. Good luck and happy editing! -- 2ReinreB2 ( talk) 22:34, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
A discussion began recently on this topic, of the character list in an article about a mystery novel. Specifically, one editor reverts if I identify the murderer in the character list -- thought the murderer is named in the Plot summary. The discussion is here. There is a bit of reverting going on, for this novel and other mysteries, which is not good. What is your view on this topic? What do you think of the view of the other editor who posted views in the discussion? Or of my views regarding WP: SPOILER? What resolution do you suggest? -- Prairieplant ( talk) 10:21, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
For something like N. (novella), neither the short story infobox nor the novel infobox seem to be fully suitable. The title should be italicized (as with novels) but it still needs the "published in" parameter (as with short stories). I could just add a "published in" parameter to the novel infobox, but didn't know if there was an accepted method for this. Thanks. -- JHunterJ ( talk) 12:51, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
{{
Infobox novella}}
and used it in
N. (novella). --
JHunterJ (
talk) 14:11, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
I've just created these stubs:
and
If anyone could help expand these I'd be grateful, I'm not an expert in novels, but am trying to add new books to this wiki as I research about them. -- Chelston-temp-1 ( talk) 23:27, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I'm completing a university course on Wikipedia and I would like to make changes to the above page. I wish to add a 'Themes' section to the page. In this I will talk about the metaphors and allusions to androgyny which could be argued to be a precursor to Hemingway's later novel, The Garden of Eden (novel)
Here are some sources I intend to use:
West, Kevin R. (2015). "What He Says about “the Cat”: Enrique Vila-Matas on Hemingway’s “Cat in the Rain”." The Hemingway Review, 34 (2), pp. 105-110
Griffin, Peter (2001). "A foul mood, a dirty joke: Hemingway's A Cat in the Rain". The Hemingway review 20 (2), p. 99
Chatman, Seymour (2001). “‘Soft Filters’: Some Sunshine on ‘Cat in the Rain.’” Narrative, 9 (2) pp. 217–222
Please leave any feedback you have on my talk page. -- Joshharper1 ( talk) 05:15, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Someone keeps inflating the supporting characters page. Maybe it should finally get a lock. LordAtlas ( talk) 01:15, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
The Partner by John Grisham had it's plot completely removed months ago, leaving the page essentially a blank stub. Recent attempts to re-add the plot, both the original version with an improvement tag and an improved version have also since been removed. A very brief, sub-standard "place holder" had been added in the meantime. If someone here could make the effort the add an appropriately written plot section, that would be appreciated. Thanks - wolf 23:00, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Should there be an Artemis Fowl task force in this project? There was a WikiProject, but it's defunct: Wikipedia:WikiProject Artemis Fowl. I was thinking maybe it could be revived as a task force in the Novels WikiProject. Fcbcampnou ( talk) 19:23, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
{{
WikiProject Novels|fantasy-task-force=yes|sf-task-force=yes}}
as is already present at
Talk:Artemis Fowl: The Time Paradox. --
Izno (
talk) 17:24, 28 October 2018 (UTC)Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. -- Izno Repeat ( talk) 21:35, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
I have suggested that the individual book articles of the series be merged into The Edge Chronicles. Please discuss the merger at Talk:The_Edge_Chronicles#Merger_of_individual_articles_of_books_in_this_series -- Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then ( ping me) 20:10, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi friends,
Might any Pachinko fans be available to help trim a plot section that's gotten a bit unwieldy? I'd do it myself but I'm afraid this NBA finalist is still in my to-read stack!
Innisfree987 (
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I've been working on fixing up the article for The Coffee Trader, previously rated as Stub-class. I'd be grateful if someone would review the rating and see if it can be upgraded now, and/or make any suggestions for further improvement. Thanks! Kenirwin/( talk) 13:32, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I am currently working on reestablishing the Children's Lit Wiki Project and figured some members of this project might be interested in joining our efforts over there. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 00:17, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mary Poppins (musical) that would benefit by your input. Please come and help! Paine Ellsworth, ed. put'r there 16:23, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Is there a list somewhere of what websites count as reliable sources for book reviews? Other wikiprojects have that and a custom Google search to make finding things easier. Dream Focus 19:07, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
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It appears that the Harry Potter task force covers the entire franchise, and as such WikiProject Novels tags are appearing on biographies of people related to the franchise. Since biographies of novelists are generally not considered a part of the project (I checked on Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky and Dickens), the biographies of these people should not come under this either. Other suspect task forces include Twilight and Percy Jackson, though I haven't checked on them. These should be moved either to Media or to Children's Literature (not Twilight), or other options should be considered. Bubka42 ( talk) 08:45, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Category:Novelists that would create very significant changes, and I thought people at this project might want to weigh in on it. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 01:29, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
I have nominated Starship Troopers for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. GamerPro64 19:20, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello -- I have recently been improving the pages describing Conrad Richter’s 1966 trilogy of novels The Awakening Land by adding references, writing style, major themes, images, etc. While doing this, I noticed that the plot summary on the page describing Richter’s second novel in the trilogy, The Fields (which was created by another editor), is different in several major aspects from the plot I read in my original edition copy issued by Alfred A. Knopf.
I have since learned (through Amazon.com reviews) that a “revised” edition of The Awakening Land was issued in 1993 by the Ohio University Press that was rewritten by the publishers to include scenes that Conrad Richter never wrote in the original novels.
I have since re-written the plot summary on this page so that it reflects the original novel, but I also think the whole issue of this original vs. revised edition needs to be addressed on Wikipedia. I think it is important that future users who come to these Wikipedia articles are aware that there is a revised edition of this trilogy out there, because they may wonder (like I did) why the plot summary on Wikipedia may differ from the one they read.
Some examples of plot differences in The Fields that I noticed from the original plot summary include:
A Teahouse host said that addressing these plot differences on Wikipedia is probably something notable that would make a reasonable addition to the articles. He suggested that I post this issue on the Talk page of the novel and at the Wikipedia Novels forum for discussion. He also suggested that for now I might want to add a brief section to the pages for this trilogy, stating simply that there is a revised edition of this trilogy and that the plots are significantly different.
I plan to find out as much as I can about the revised edition of this trilogy (probably by tracking down a copy at a library and reading it myself; also by looking for independent sources that can be used as references) so that I can address it fully on Wikipedia. Is there anyone else out there who is familiar with either of the editions of this trilogy and can help me? Thanks for any advice. Perpetual Reader ( talk) 15:08, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
File:Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.pdf ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 03:42, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
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Changes to streamline the way Infobox book displays the date of publication and publisher from multiple fields into one (using a standardised format) and to remove the "(s)" in "Author(s)" etc. in line with other infoboxes have been suggested. Please read and give your opinion there. -- xensyria T 17:48, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
see talk:Edogawa Rampo for discussion on the name of this novelist -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 05:41, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Dear readers: This article has been in Afc for nearly three weeks. Would anyone like to review it? — Anne Delong ( talk) 20:53, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
I've been working on John Barth's The End of the Road for some time, aiming at polishing it up for a Featured Article nomination (it's now a Good Article). It looks like the following books (that I have no access to) have substantial information on The End of the Road (up to full chapters):
It would be great if anyone who has access tot hese books could use them to contribute to the article. I live in Japan, so I can't access them either online or in the library, and I haven't found copies that fit my budget. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Curly Turkey ( gobble) 05:17, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
As there are now multiple reviews of this available and the release is just days away, I just converted Bleeding Edge from a redirect into a stub. Not my usual subject area, so it would be great if others could jump in now and develop this further given what an important writer Pynchon is. Cheers, postdlf ( talk) 16:45, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
You might be interested in this list, as it includes multimedia franchises with literary components. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:51, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
I have moved the below from the relevant User talk pages to garner wider input :
Author | John Barth |
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Country | U.S. |
Language | English |
Genre | Novel |
Publication date | 1958 |
Preceded by | The Floating Opera |
Followed by | The Sot-Weed Factor |
Keep in mind as well that there is no policy impelling editors to include an infobox. Removing it entirely is also an option—as the primary editor of the article, it would be my prerogative. I'd prefer that option to having a pointlessly long infobox that gives tangential details like the Dewey decimal number. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 22:54, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
I've taken this to Manual of Style/Infoboxes. Curly Turkey ( gobble) 23:17, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Author | John Barth |
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Language | English |
Genre | Novel |
Media type | Print [?] |
813.5 |
Some balance is required. No parameters are required. An open mind is required.
Images: Looking at some Wikipedia:FA#Literature_and_theatre layouts, we can see that there are numerous standard options for image: 1st edition cover, 2nd edition cover, stack of various editions, frontispiece, 1st page, the author, or nothing at all.
Personally, I'm a visually-oriented person, so I'd find the absence of an image to be disconcerting, therefore I'd suggest some sort of image is good, but the choice is up to the article-editors. I'm inclined towards the "stack of various editions" as the ideal choice, unless a book-author was particularly fond of a certain cover.
ISBN: This book was published prior to the invention of the ISBN system in 1965. I've pointed out before, that one of the legitimate objections the "infobox-skeptics" raise, is people trying to shoehorn as many values into an infobox as possible.
E.g. Candide included the parameter "ISBN: NA" for many years. That is exactly the kind of thing that editors who are frustrated by infoboxes, are correct about. That parameter should be hidden/unused there! "ISBN: NA" is a true statement about the first printing of that book, but it's not ideal infobox material. The only two purposes it serves, are: (1) Tangenting a reader's focus into learning that ISBN is a recent invention. (2) As an editor-reminder, to prevent anyone from adding an ISBN that points to some random ("The Definitive RandomPenguin Candide") modern printing.
E.g. 2. Nineteen Eighty-Four (published in 1949) currently has an ISBN pointing to a 2003 edition by the US publisher Plume (founded 1970) - that hurts my brain on so many levels.
Better Documentation: I made specific suggestions at the Arbcom/Infoboxes case, regarding details that should be explicitly stated in places like Template:Infobox book/doc and MOS:INFOBOX. That's what would have prevented the misunderstandings above. In due time, this will be achieved, but everyone has to be patient and willing to engage in friendly open-minded discussion in order to get there.
HTH. – Quiddity ( talk) 21:34, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
I've edited the article itself, to implement some of the suggestions. I suggest we move that specific discussion (if further discussion is even needed) to the article's talkpage. If anyone wants to debate the abstract issues, then continue the threads above here. – Quiddity ( talk) 23:25, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello, WikiProject Novels. I would like to hear your opinions on noting the amazon.com "Customer Reviews" score in an article, similar to how a film-article sometimes mention the IMDB/RT/MetaCritic score. It would be something like " Amazon.com´s Customer Reviews give a score of 2.6/5, based on 140 reviews (oct 2013)." Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 17:24, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Proposal to establish new guideline on treating franchises, characters, and such as broad concepts or primary topics is made. Feel free to weigh in. -- George Ho ( talk) 04:50, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Any and all input would be greatly appreciated! See discussion here. Corvoe (speak to me) 03:29, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi WikiProject Novels! I got here via the Wikify drive and found an entry that needed way more than formatting and citation cleanup. The Ballad of the Sad Café originally only referenced the novella, even though it's actually a collection of short stories. Two of the other stories were published as separate novels that have their own wikipages. The novella by the same name is the only other title in the collection that seems to be particularly notable; the other short stories have little if any critical reviews as far as I can tell. What is standard wiki procedure for an article on a collection like this? Should it get a brief article with each story getting its own wiki page, or a longer one with information on each story kept within the collection's article? I don't want to duplicate information from The Heart is a Lonely Hunter and Reflections in a Golden Eye -- do I just point to their pages and be done with it? "Sad Cafe" clearly needs a good writeup as there is considerable scholarship about it, but what do I do with the other stories? Thanks for any help! SarahTheEntwife ( talk) 14:10, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Editors involved in this project may be interested in a discussion at Template talk:Infobox book series#"Publisher" Wikilinked?. In short: Should the parameter "Publisher" be wikilinked in the template? Cnilep ( talk) 03:55, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Currently novelist redirects to the novel, but as is pretty apparent that the concept of a novelist is not a topic being covered well throughout that article. I started a draft at Draft:Novelist with some sourcing, and the beginnings of an outline, and would appreciate help writing and researching the topic. Thanks much, Sadads ( talk) 21:24, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
The article for Will Eisner's graphic novel A Contract with God has recently become a Good Article. I'm planning on nominating it as a Featured Article Candidate and would appreciate any feedback to help it get there. The Peer Review is here, so please stop by! Thanks, Curly Turkey ( gobble) 08:20, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
I've archived some inactive threads to subsections which were notifications about discussions that have since been closed. — Cirt ( talk) 04:10, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
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Hello all.
After some discussion at Talk:Dune (novel), I wondered if there would be support for a Task Force on the Dune universe? To paraphrase User:Sadads, there would be about 600-700 pages in total. Need the support of a fair handful of editors before it would go ahead to prevent it going stale.
Any thoughts? -- S.G.(GH) ping! 10:49, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
This discussion may be of interest. -- Rob Sinden ( talk) 08:54, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
There is a conversation going on at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 March 4#Male writers about the gendered categorization of author pages (particularly whether to use "men" or "male" writers). Further voices would be appreciated to develop a consensus on the standard amongst writer articles, Sadads ( talk) 19:20, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian literature seems inactive so I'm asking this here: Is the Australian novelist, lawyer, and lecturer Debora Burrows (A Stranger in my Street, Taking a Chance) notable enough to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines?
Please add your comments near the top of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Deborah Burrows, using the form
Please place it below any similar comments but above the ---- line. Thanks. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 18:39, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Contributors to this WikiProject are invited to comment at Talk:Wena Poon#Autobiography?. The article appears to be an autobiography by a novelist. Several of the novelist's works have been reviewed in various publications. Cnilep ( talk) 04:24, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Having written dozens of FAs for other projects, I am seriously considering revamping the articles for Daniel Quinn's Ishmael series: Ishmael, The Story of B, My Ishmael, and Beyond Civilization. The hope would be to get them all through FAC. However, I have never written an article that falls under this WikiProject, so I made need help with sourcing. So far, I have found brief reviews at Publishers Weekly and Kirkus. Daniel Quinn himself also pointed me to a book called Roadmap to Sustainability: Interpreting Daniel Quinn by Doug Brown on Lulu, but I'm not sure if I can cite it. If so, it may end up being the most comprehensive examination of the philosophy promoted by these works. Quinn also pointed me to A Companion for Ishmael, a document geared towards helping teachers use the material in schools. Lastly, he sent me a master's thesis for a student at The City University of New York which seems to cite his work extensively, but I strongly doubt it could be used.
Otherwise I can work from the website, ishmael.org. By searching Google Books, I have found many environmental or religious books that make mention of these books, particularly the first in the series. However, most that I looked at simply reiterated the contents of the books (or their interpretations) and then wove them into their own thesis. For the sake of comprehensiveness, I'm not sure if these will need to be mentioned.
If what I've listed is all that's available, and if most of it isn't usable, then I may need guidance on how to organize what may end up being very short but comprehensive FACs.
If anyone knows of other sources that could provide more in-depth analysis, please let me know. Given how popular these books have been and how schools and universities use them in their teaching, I'd think that someone would have written a professional analysis. The problem is that I'm not sure how to find such sources, if they exist. (And FYI, I've already tried everything on your Resources help page.) – Maky « talk » 01:16, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
In August last year, all publication data in {{
infobox book}} was merged into one new |published=
parameter. Work began on migrating existing uses to the new format, until
questions were
raised about the effect this had on
data granularity.
Any input and suggestions on a proposed fix, which keeps the new one-line per edition formatting while providing full data granularity would be much appreciated ( centralised discussion here). Thanks. ‑‑ xensyria T 23:52, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
I've got a dispute with Koavf over the article How We Are Hungry, which is about a novel by Dave Eggers. Koavf apparently feels that it is desirable to include a picture of Eggers in the article on the grounds that it adds "context." I have tried to explain to Koavf that a picture of a book's author explains nothing about the book itself and serves no useful purpose, but he has simply ignored me. Outside comments on the dispute would be welcome. FreeKnowledgeCreator ( talk) 22:22, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
I've nominated Portal:Children's literature to be considered for Featured Portal quality.
This was a joint quality improvement collaboration between myself and User:Wadewitz.
Participation would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Children's literature.
Thank you for your time,
— Cirt ( talk) 17:21, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Diary of a Wimpy Kid, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Lucia Black ( talk) 20:18, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello all!
I was hoping to get this up as a
WP:DYK when I started it, but I'm hopelessly caught up with my obsession for adding references for every phrase and punctuation mark. (As obsessions go, it's not such a bad one to have, but anyways.)
Could people with better article writing skills possibly help me out here?
I was thinking that the DYK "hook" could be about the character names:
"Creel Zmundzinksi, Cheri Wham, Frank Frink, Sedley Alwen",
"quirky characters with names to match - Creel Zmundzinski, Orion Horncrackle, the Rev. Jefford J. Pecker, Sage Brawls, Fiesta Punch, Gilbert Wolfscale and many, many more", and so on.
Your thoughts? Pete AU aka --
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talk) 13:45, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
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I have proposed naming conventions for bibliographies here. Any constructive comments you are willing to provide there would be greatly appreciated. Neelix ( talk) 14:39, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I would be in favour of creating a new article for The Manny separate from author Holly Peterson's page. However, I have not read the novel, so it may be better if it were started by someone who has. Has anyone here read it yet? Zigzig20s ( talk) 10:11, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
I just nominated the article on the historical novelists Margaret George for deletion. Participation from people in this group would probably help. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 17:32, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Le Grand Meaulnes by Alain-Fournier has been renamed to The Wanderer, is this action justified? Just thought I'd flag it up as I know it only by its orginal name, but I may be in the minority... GrahamHardy ( talk) 09:52, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
File:The480Novel.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Stefan2 ( talk) 12:49, 21 May 2014 (UTC) Please help save the above image ! GrahamHardy ( talk) 13:03, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
I am proposing a rename on this article; join in discussion. -- George Ho ( talk) 19:37, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello all! At The Wikipedia Library we are currently in talks with Proquest's Literature Online and Early English Books Online to get Wikipedians access to those databases/collections. They asked us for a bit of information about how Wikipedians might use the research materials, asking us to do a brief survey. It would be extremely helpful if users could fill out the following Google form: Proquest - Literature Online / Wikipedia Library user interest survey. Afterward, while waiting for us to finish talks on Literature Online, we would like to invite editors to apply for already established available partnerships, listed at our partners page. Thank you for all of your help! Sadads ( talk) 16:44, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Here are more related discussions: Talk:Other Tales of the Flying Fox and Talk:Blade-dance of the Two Lovers. -- George Ho ( talk) 05:11, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
doi: 10.1089/jwh.2014.4782 [1] is a study of female readers 18-24 of the 50 Shades trilogy. I was wondering how this should be integrated into the article(s). -- 65.94.169.222 ( talk) 05:42, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
This is overdue; join in discussion before the talk is over. -- George Ho ( talk) 05:29, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Please join the discussion regarding whether proper disambiguation is Character (character), Character (fictional character), Character (Show name character), Character (Show name) at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film#Fictional_character_disambiguation.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:43, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
I'm planning to merge or redirect this page into Mason & Dixon, but I don't know which portions are important to summarize. Can anyone help me on inserting Plot Summary into the parent article? -- George Ho ( talk) 16:37, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
The usage of Epic ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see talk:epic poetry -- 70.51.46.146 ( talk) 05:34, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
There is an RfC concerning whether it is appropriate to use pronouns such as "he", "she", or "who" when referring to fictional characters in out-of-universe portions of articles. The discussion is at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics#RFC: Are fictional characters people or objects? Curly Turkey ⚞ ¡gobble!⚟ 22:46, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej ( talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi, there is currently a discussion taking place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#VG comments subpages regarding whether it would be acceptable to permanently shift all comments subpages associated with WP:VG articles into talk. This shift would follow the recommended approach given at WP:DCS. The WikiProject Novels articles that would be affected by this action are these:
If you have objections related specifically to WikiProject Novels' (or specifically the Chronicles of Narnia Taskforce's) use of these subpages, please make this clear at the discussion so that other unrelated talk pages can be cleaned up where appropriate. Thank you. - Thibbs ( talk) 15:56, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I have created User:Zigzig20s/My Policeman, and I was wondering if you thought it could be moved to a proper article as a stub, and/or how it could be expanded/improved. I could add a section with a listof characters. I could also flesh out the plot summary a little bit. There have been other reviews in The Times and other publications, but I don't have access to them. Are any of you able to find them? Thank you. Zigzig20s ( talk) 22:39, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I'm wondering if its possible to organize yet another task force or a WikiProject to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to light novels, as I did with WP:GHIBLI. The task force will be a descendant of WP:ANIME and WP:NOVEL and WP:JAPAN. I've started it in my sandbox. Thoughts or objections? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 04:31, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
As a follow-up, I've already started the project here. If anyone wants to help with the project, please do so. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 05:38, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Hours ago one anonymous visitor remarked at length concerning 'novel' and 'romance'; novel as content genre and as form genre; etc (my crude summary). See Talk:Novel#Inconsistency in use of term "genre".
I replied at length but in general regarding terms such as ' children's writer' and many others as well as ' novel' that appear routinely, and commonly linked, in the lead sections and infoboxes of writer and book articles. In closing, I asked:
-- P64 ( talk) 18:19, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
I didn't fully understand the original criticism, but Is the root problem here a confusion between the term romance as defined, say by Walter Scott, or more recently by Margaret Anne Doody, [1] and a recent genre fiction usage for a "love story" (see lede: Romance, as defined here, should not be confused with the genre fiction love romance or romance novel. Other European languages do not distinguish between romance and novel: "a novel is le roman, der Roman, il romanzo." [2]). See also my comments on the Novel Talk page, re the problem with this article. Rwood128 ( talk) 17:52, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps we aren't really discussing two distinct types of romance and that the only real difference between say Wuthering Heights and a genre fiction romance is that WH is better written and has better developed characters.
Also maybe the Wuthering Heights type of romance needs to be better defined as a sub-genre of the novel, from which the different kinds of genre fiction romance have subsequently evolved --and not just the love romance. At the moment romance, as defined by Scott and Doody, may be treated in the Novel article too much as a parallel genre and this has led to the confusion voiced recently? I'd suggest that while a romance is always also a novel, a novel isn't always a romance. Rwood128 ( talk) 21:14, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
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The instructions for Category:Child characters in literature ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) state "As with real children, the term refers to characters who are understood to be biologically and/or chronologically under age 21 during the course of a film in which they are depicted." The age of 20 is far beyond the age of childhood for science and numerous religions. The sourced info in our article child states "is generally a human between the stages of birth and puberty" and the sourced info in the puberty article gives the ages of 10-11 for girls and 11-12 for boys. I propose that we change the wording in the instructions to give the age of 12 as the cutoff for this category. Now if we want to use 13 or even 14 to error on the side of caution that would be okay but IMO this cat should not be in articles where the young characters are older than 14. Any and all input on this will be appreciated. When a consensus is reached we should add the new instructions to the cat page and to any appropriate MOS's. I am cross posting this at the books project as well. If there is a better place to centralize this discussion let me know and I will move it there. MarnetteD| Talk 20:15, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I've nominated the article for Laurence Hyde's wordless novel, Southern Cross (wordless novel), as a Featured Article Candidate. Please contribute to the review here. Thanks! Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 12:03, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Titles § Italics for series titles for a discussion on the use of italics for titles of book series. — sroc 💬 05:10, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
A requested move discussion has been initiated for R Is for Rocket to be moved to R is for Rocket. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. — RMCD bot 22:49, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
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A requested move discussion has been initiated for God's Mischief to be moved to Daivathinte Vikrithikal (novel). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. — RMCD bot 23:19, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
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I've started a new WikiProject for romance and thought I'd see if anyone was interested in joining? Since the scope encompasses more than books< I didn't feel like it could be solely a task force here or on WP:WPBIO. Anyway, I've got the bones set up and will keep working on getting guidelines and tasks hammered out. I'll definitely be pointing people here for the parts that overlap with this WP. Looking forward to getting it rolling and recruiting any interested members! :) plange ( talk) 02:34, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Important conversation going on at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Templates#Consistent_formatting_of_template_titles_for_navboxes_of_literary_works: please join, 15:29, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Noir fiction starts with the (to me) surprising diktat that
The section heading is from WP Film (which i visited for the first time last hour) where it originated as far as I know three months ago, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Archive 56#IP user and plot summaries.
Six weeks ago, evidently the same person (I posted what follows at WP Film talk too):
Contributions by user 2600:1006:B107:50A:B54A:54DC:4A42:DE45 covers a single 200-minute session 2015-05-10 quite destructive in some cases. The big changes reported in red primarily concern plot summaries. Some of the articles have not been changed subsequently (labeled "current" in that report) and I suppose that some others of the massive deletions remain intact. The High King is a novel I know and I reverted its change 15 hours go.
(end verbatim cross-post)
Commonly the summaries such as "cut the plot to the perfect size" cover simple deletion of whole paragraphs, as much as 80% of the bloated plot summary in one consecutive swath from its middle. -- P64 ( talk) 15:20, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
The Sword of Shannara, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by N2e ( talk • contribs) 20:25, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
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Just informing all here that the Percy Jackson Task-force, under this wikiproject, is most likely about to change its scope to include all the works of children's author Rick Riordan (rather than just his two series about the character Percy Jackson). It may also be changing its name to the "Rick Riordan Task-force", but this is far from certain. I will post updates here as the changes are finalized. 2ReinreB2 ( talk) 03:25, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not#Expanding NOTPLOT. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 ( talk) 12:15, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
An RM that affects this project is currently taking place. Interested editors may wish to discuss here. Chase ( talk | contributions) 17:38, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Please take part in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#RfC: Are personal pronouns (including "who") to be avoided for fictional characters? Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 23:09, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Proposal regarding unusual prepositions in titles (re: clarification request in RM closure). — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 20:43, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello WikiProject Novels!
Based on the recommendation of Sadads, I am happy to announce that WikiProject X has selected this project as part of a round of pilot testing.
The goal of WikiProject X is to improve the WikiProject experience through research, design, and experimentation. On that basis, we've prepared a new WikiProject design template based around modules. These modules include features you are already familiar with, such as article alerts, but also new features such as automated work lists, a feed of discussions taking place on the 33,179 talk pages tagged by WikiProject Novels, and a new member profile system. To see what this new setup looks like, you can browse the first round of pilot tests: WikiProject Cannabis, WikiProject Evolutionary biology, WikiProject Ghana, WikiProject Hampshire, WikiProject Women's Health.
If there is consensus among the participants of this WikiProject, I will proceed with implementing this interface based on the current contents of Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels. Please let me know if you have any questions or requests. Harej ( talk) 23:00, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
A few of us are planning an informal project to improve and clean up the articles on the Aubrey-Maturin novels. We'll take the articles one by one, and work through slowly but methodically. Before we start, it would be useful to discuss generally what needs to be done and where we hope to end up. If you are interested, please have a look at Talk:Master and Commander#Aubrey-Maturin novels - planned improvement project. -- MichaelMaggs ( talk) 15:12, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Any comments at Talk:The Dark Fields#Requested move 30 September 2015 from members of this project would be appreciated. Thanks, Jenks24 ( talk) 09:45, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
I have created a new portal at Portal:Halo and nominated it for featured portal status at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Halo. Comments will be much appreciated. Thank you. sst✈ discuss 07:05, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
I am proposing some changes to {{ Infobox bibliography}}. See the discussion at Template talk:Infobox bibliography. RockMagnetist( talk) 01:26, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
The Percy Jackson Task-force is attempting to reach a consensus about changing its name to the "Rick Riordan Task-force". In brief, the proposal is that this new name will generalize its scope, so that it can stay alive and healthy for years to come. Please read and comment on the discussion here. Your advice is appreciated. -- 2ReinreB2 ( talk) 03:11, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Please see the RfC at Wikipedia talk:Categories, lists, and navigation templates#WP:BIDIRECTIONAL navbox requirements regarding consensus for WP:BIDIRECTIONAL. -- Rob Sinden ( talk) 16:10, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
I am proposing that an infobox be created for fictional conflicts, as currently many articles on fictional conflicts, as well as a real-time virtual battle, use Template:Infobox military conflict. To centralize discussion, please reply, if interested, at the infobox talk page I've linked to here.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me | See what I have done) 05:40, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
I have been doing a bit of copy editing on Agatha Christie book pages and have noticed a few oddities in the International titles sections of those pages. 1) How literal should the translations be? For example, on Mrs McGinty's Dead we see "French: Mrs McGinty est morte (Mrs McGinty is Dead)" and "Portuguese (Portugal): ... Mrs McGinty está Morta (Mrs McGinty's Dead)". Both of those would literally translate as "Mrs McGinty is Dead", but there is no difference in meaning between that and "Mrs McGinty's Dead". Should we leave them as the literal translations or not? 2) How should we style the translation of the title? Do we use the language in question's standards for title capitalization or the English standards? For example, on Curtain (novel) we see "French : Poirot quitte la scène (Poirot leaves the stage/Poirot gives up the stage)" using the French capitalization rules for the English translation and "Hungarian: Függöny (Poirot utolsó esete) (Curtain [Poirot's Last Case])" using the English rules for the English translation.-- Khajidha ( talk) 14:49, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
The work of so many Agatha Christie editors undone in an hour or two by the decision of two editors. One of the intriguing aspects of her novels is their popularity worldwide in English and in translation. Sales of her novels and short stories are so very high because of the worldwide appeal when they were written and continuing now, decades after the author died. Such a big decision made by two editors and it seems to be based on the titles being re-translated to English, a rather minor issue. My concern about the titles was no editor gave an ISBN for any title, though the books are reprinted in the era of ISBN. A full web site is compiled with the titles of Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey-Maturin series in various languages and linked to that article in the Publication History section (at this moment it is Ref number 27), as an example of a better treatment of showing the appeal of a novel written initially in English, to people who speak other languages. The Cadfael Chronicles, a series of 21 novels by Ellis Peters, were often translated to other languages. The Publication history section of each novel shows the titles in other languages, with ISBN or at least publisher, again showing the reach of the series, novel by novel. All three examples before us are British authors with an appeal beyond Britain, beyond the English speaking nations, to people who do not speak English, not reading the English version as a way to learn English. I think that is noteworthy, as not many authors have that appeal. Before you toss out all that work collecting the titles, you might consider collecting them in another Wikipedia article showing the extent of the worldwide popularity, and letting those who have mystery novels in languages other than English to organize them and find ISBN if they exist. Or open up the topic on the Talk page of each novel. Here is a third editor with a different view. I reverted the first article I encountered with the section blanking by Khajidha, expressing my views then in brief. Here they are fleshed out. I will not revert, knowing you believe the discussion above to be your authority and basis to alter all the articles on her novels. It would be nice to hear other voices on this. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 18:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
The novel has been translated into over xx languages, including...(properly sourced of course), but to list the translation to non-English titles is irrelevant. You could do the same on every article you can think of. Does it say on the Star Wars article that the film was released as La Guerre des Etoiles in French etc, etc? It's simply irrelevant and unencyclopedic. -- Rob Sinden ( talk) 09:45, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
No need to repeat what you said above Khajidha and Robsinden. I understand your views. Sorry we have not made much mutual progress in this discussion. Lists are often needed to prove the total, but I am beginning to think you two would eliminate all 'List of' articles or subsections in Wikipedia. List of award winners? Translation is not my big point here, but it is yours. The list is my big point, a list of books translated from one English original. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 09:48, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Opera hat Thanks for the clarification. In the article reverted by another editor, I moved the international titles into the Publication history section and used World Cat to find the publisher, translator if known, ISBN and year. I also deleted the title repeated in English -- that is, just the translated title is there. I wrote an introduction for the list with citations taken from the main article on Agatha Christie. Further, in the Edit version, the HTML that most editors will see (is that true, or is the visual editor still used a lot?) with a request to any editor adding a translated title to provide the necessary information in addition to the title. I think that editors who see the list now includes translator, publisher, cit, year, ISBN will follow suit. Further, I put an item in the talk page for the article. I did not find every translation at World Cat, so the notes to editors ask them to fill in the existing list as they can. If no documentation is found after some time (when more have read the article) then those unsourced translations can be handled. I think that is a reasonable way to do this. Sadads Yes, we have no consensus, so I understand that this is not a policy for articles about novels, but to be handled case by case. I read that entry for a best-seller -- all the information for a really well-written Wikipedia article on that novel. Plus an effort to explain, why is this novel a best seller? Thanks for pointing out that source. Khajidha and Robsinden, I read all you posted, find the last additions to be repeating your points. You might appreciate that I removed the re-translations of the foreign language titles that seemed to offend you in the start of this section, in the one article where I added source information. I hope this is clear and closed for now. I appreciate the discussion, learning much. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 21:42, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
This series an it's individual articles have the ability to being all GA articles, even FA. There's plenty of sources but each time I want to edit, I get lost in what I want to fix. Its mostly need of condensing some plot and reorganizing info. Lucia Black ( talk) 21:45, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
The usage and naming for Hero and Heroism and Heroine is under discussion, see talk:hero -- 70.51.44.60 ( talk) 05:34, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jesse Haynes Joeykai ( talk) 04:35, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
I have nominated Fairy tale for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sadads ( talk) 14:01, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi. I am slightly new to Wikipedia (about a month) and have only been working on horse articles. Recently, I have created a novel article and I might need some help. If anyone could help, please do so. Thanks. Horsegeek (talk) 23:09, 14 February 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek
Link: User:Horsegeek/Spirit Animals (novel)
Spot survey: There was a recent RM to have Monica Dickens at (Monica Dickens novel). How much opposition is there to recognizable author names on all 20th Century book dabs? per (John Lennon song) not (Lennon song) etc. Most writers after Tolstoy are not recognizable as mononyms, how many editors are strongly opposed to full names? In ictu oculi ( talk) 13:05, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi there,
Here is a list of some ~700 books that have covers, but are listed as not having covers. I'm planning on going through them semi-automatically to remove the tag, unless someone here raises issue with it.
Tim 1357 talk| poke 23:18, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
P.S. Here is a gallery of the "needs-cover" articles with their respective cover images. Tim 1357 talk| poke 19:15, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
What should be done about novel articles which don't have or (perhaps?) don't require a front cover? For example, Sanditon, which is an unpublished book by Jane Austen, may not have a cover at all but is still notable. Ciridae ( talk) 07:02, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
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Please see Talk:Birdy (singer) In ictu oculi ( talk) 17:40, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
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Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: In-universe name details of fictional characters, in article leads (concerning fictional characters as article subjects generally). — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 01:23, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
I asked a question as to whether the primary name of the page describing Camus' novel should be The Stranger or The Outsider; not receiving a response on the talk page, I thought this might be a better place.
What do you think, Team Novel(la)s? U+003F ? 07:56, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Greatly appreciated if someone wants to add a picture of the cover and expand this article. Thanks! Zigzig20s ( talk) 14:50, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Are there any (preferably reliable) sources for the number of words in books? Articles where length is important (say those at list of novellas) could benefit from this info, and it allows for better comparison than number of pages. U+003F ? 19:02, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
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Who agrees that we should have a new taskforce concerning Lois Lowry's books? I mean, two of them have Newberry Medal awards. KangisLOL ( talk) 15:15, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
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Is there a reliable way to find the number of copies that a particular book has sold? I've been struggling through unhelpful web sources for a while now. Regards, Vanamonde93 ( talk) 10:20, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi everyone - I am working on sprucing up the Curse Worker's series by Holly Black (stumbled upon them one day, and as Wiki-things go, they pulled me in, wanting to improve them a bit). In any case, I am starting with White Cat by adding a reception section to the article. My question then is this, as I haven't really worked on book articles before: are there any particular places that the project looks for good critical reviews? I have pasted a few in my sandbox, but I am not sure if these will pass muster, as some of them seem a bit bloggy... In any case, any guidance provided will be of much help! I've also posted this question at WT:BOOKS. - Pax Verbum 02:48, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
Category:Lesbian novels has been nominated for renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page.
Category:Transgender and transsexual novels has been nominated for renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page.
Thanks.— TAnthony Talk 23:06, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
Category:Nineteen Eighty-Four locations, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for upmerging to Category:Nineteen Eighty-Four. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:42, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Folks, what are current opinions regarding [3] as a source? I'm not convinced about its reliability, but I want to be sure before I disregard it. Cheers, Vanamonde ( talk) 09:07, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
I'm going to post this in a few places just so it gets a good amount of people looking at the article in question. The article for Animal World, the first published book by Antonio di Benedetto, is up for deletion. It looks like there should be coverage out there, as there is mention here and there about the book getting various accolades including a national prize, but I can't really find much. This is partially because of the language barrier, as most coverage is going to be in Spanish, but it's also likely because most of the coverage predated the Internet and as such may not be on the Internet as a whole or in places that we'd all know to check.
Anyone here want to see what they can find? It might be a good chance for a WP:HEY rescue. (I promise that this is the last forum I'll post this at. It's just that I don't want this to get deleted if it's possible that it could be notable.) Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 10:01, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
Can it be advised to editors to make more use of the parameters preceded by and followed by in the infobox for books by the same author? I have seen the feature used on articles about books by one author that are not a series. I find it helpful, even when the article has a template with all the articles about the author or the books written by the author down at the end of the article, and never thought it was for series only, rather to link to the next book published by that author. Now that I use a mobile phone on occasion to read articles, the feature in the infobox shows up and can be used to navigate to the prior or next book by that author. Those handy templates do not appear on the mobile version. A point for discussion, as another editor keeps undoing the links in the articles on the six novels by Jane Austen, saying that only a series can use that feature. I posted this question at Wikiproject Books, as well. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 06:56, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
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Can anyone help rescue or replace this image :
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Please comment at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2017_January_2#Template:Nobel_Prize_in_Literature.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:58, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
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Annnouncing RRTF's first Edit-A-Thon! In honor of his July 9 birthday, the Rick Riordan task force will be hosting an editing event focused on author/illustrator John Rocco. The event will last until the first day of August, when the most helpful contributor will be featured on RRTF's forums. More information can be found here on the talk page, where you may also post questions and comments (as always). Please consider helping out! -- 2ReinreB2 ( talk) 03:39, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
The spelling of a character's name was changed from Cathy to Kathy between editions of Killing Mr. Griffin, and there's been some disagreement about which one to use. I'm hoping some members of this project will weigh in on the article's talk page: Talk:Killing Mr. Griffin#Kathy or Cathy?. Thanks, Argento Surfer ( talk) 17:38, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
WP:RRTF has a draft in progress for a book which contains a gender-fluid character. There's been some discussion about how to describe the character, as they make a point in the books of discouraging the use of "they" or "she/he". Does anybody know of a policy to guide us? Or an example? Please leave suggestions on Draft talk:The Hammer of Thor. Thanks! -- 2ReinreB2 ( talk) 22:53, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I don't know why I didn't put this here straight away, apologies. I've started a discussion here. Any input would be gratefully received. Scribolt ( talk) 05:59, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi all. An isse was reported in WP Films about a series of "Country film by year" categories that were created without prior notification, and it was also mentioned that the same has happened in novels. I checked your Category hierarchy and it seems to me that such categories do not follow your categorization scheme. So I though of notifying you that up to now there have been created 59 Canadian novels by year categories populated by 488 articles, and 36 Swedish novels by year categories populated by 48 articles. Best regards, Hoverfish Talk 18:41, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
Note: the above also means that these articles have been removed both from Category:Novels by year and Category:Novels by country. Hoverfish Talk 22:01, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
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Hey all, I've just created an article for this year's Hugo-winning novel, The Obelisk Gate. I'd love any help in expanding it. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:57, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello. I've started The Mirror Thief. Please expand it if you can. Thank you! Zigzig20s ( talk) 21:33, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
There appears to be an error in the Books section of Fantômas. See Talk:Fantômas #Two books merged in translation?. (This note is going to WP:WikiProject Fictional characters, WP:WikiProject France, WP:WikiProject Comics, and WP:WikiProject Novels.) Thnidu ( talk) 01:53, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Editors are needed to help resolve a disagreement on the His Dark Materials page. Talk page discussion: Should we keep the Terminology and Pronunciation sections? Thanks. Popcornduff ( talk) 11:49, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
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Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.
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Join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Templates#Removal_of_historical_characters_from_navboxes.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:59, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
Hello! I'm working on improving The Book of the New Sun. What areas should I expand upon, what sections should I add, and do I need to trim any sections? And if anyone would like to help directly that would be much appreciated. Thanks! Pagliaccious ( talk) 15:51, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Hey book editors,
I'll be attending some of this week's BookExpo and BookCon. There will be an awful lot of well known authors there and I hope to take a few pictures. If there's an author article you've been working on that needs a photo, check bookexpoamerica.com and thebookcon.com to see if they'll be there and then ping me if so. No promises, of course, and unfortunately I don't have time to attend the whole thing, but if I'm there I'll do my best. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:53, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
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Announcing RRTF's second annual Edit-A-Thon! The event is being held June 23 through July 28 in honor of author Rick Riordan's June birthday and author/illustrator John Rocco's July birthday. The focus of the edit-a-thon will be on expanding Wikipedia's coverage of these two authors in an encyclopedic manner.
The Edit-A-Thon is open to all Wikipedia users - you do not need any experience with Riordan, Rocco, or RRTF! Help is needed in a variety of areas, including referencing, copyediting, and new page creation. Prizes will be given for first, second, and third place and will consist of a barnstar and Amazon gift card. To enter, please visit this page. The winners will be announced by July 31.
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A discussion began recently on this topic, of the character list in an article about a mystery novel. Specifically, one editor reverts if I identify the murderer in the character list -- thought the murderer is named in the Plot summary. The discussion is here. There is a bit of reverting going on, for this novel and other mysteries, which is not good. What is your view on this topic? What do you think of the view of the other editor who posted views in the discussion? Or of my views regarding WP: SPOILER? What resolution do you suggest? -- Prairieplant ( talk) 10:21, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
For something like N. (novella), neither the short story infobox nor the novel infobox seem to be fully suitable. The title should be italicized (as with novels) but it still needs the "published in" parameter (as with short stories). I could just add a "published in" parameter to the novel infobox, but didn't know if there was an accepted method for this. Thanks. -- JHunterJ ( talk) 12:51, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
{{
Infobox novella}}
and used it in
N. (novella). --
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I've just created these stubs:
and
If anyone could help expand these I'd be grateful, I'm not an expert in novels, but am trying to add new books to this wiki as I research about them. -- Chelston-temp-1 ( talk) 23:27, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I'm completing a university course on Wikipedia and I would like to make changes to the above page. I wish to add a 'Themes' section to the page. In this I will talk about the metaphors and allusions to androgyny which could be argued to be a precursor to Hemingway's later novel, The Garden of Eden (novel)
Here are some sources I intend to use:
West, Kevin R. (2015). "What He Says about “the Cat”: Enrique Vila-Matas on Hemingway’s “Cat in the Rain”." The Hemingway Review, 34 (2), pp. 105-110
Griffin, Peter (2001). "A foul mood, a dirty joke: Hemingway's A Cat in the Rain". The Hemingway review 20 (2), p. 99
Chatman, Seymour (2001). “‘Soft Filters’: Some Sunshine on ‘Cat in the Rain.’” Narrative, 9 (2) pp. 217–222
Please leave any feedback you have on my talk page. -- Joshharper1 ( talk) 05:15, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Someone keeps inflating the supporting characters page. Maybe it should finally get a lock. LordAtlas ( talk) 01:15, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
The Partner by John Grisham had it's plot completely removed months ago, leaving the page essentially a blank stub. Recent attempts to re-add the plot, both the original version with an improvement tag and an improved version have also since been removed. A very brief, sub-standard "place holder" had been added in the meantime. If someone here could make the effort the add an appropriately written plot section, that would be appreciated. Thanks - wolf 23:00, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Should there be an Artemis Fowl task force in this project? There was a WikiProject, but it's defunct: Wikipedia:WikiProject Artemis Fowl. I was thinking maybe it could be revived as a task force in the Novels WikiProject. Fcbcampnou ( talk) 19:23, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
{{
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as is already present at
Talk:Artemis Fowl: The Time Paradox. --
Izno (
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I have suggested that the individual book articles of the series be merged into The Edge Chronicles. Please discuss the merger at Talk:The_Edge_Chronicles#Merger_of_individual_articles_of_books_in_this_series -- Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then ( ping me) 20:10, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi friends,
Might any Pachinko fans be available to help trim a plot section that's gotten a bit unwieldy? I'd do it myself but I'm afraid this NBA finalist is still in my to-read stack!
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I've been working on fixing up the article for The Coffee Trader, previously rated as Stub-class. I'd be grateful if someone would review the rating and see if it can be upgraded now, and/or make any suggestions for further improvement. Thanks! Kenirwin/( talk) 13:32, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I am currently working on reestablishing the Children's Lit Wiki Project and figured some members of this project might be interested in joining our efforts over there. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 00:17, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mary Poppins (musical) that would benefit by your input. Please come and help! Paine Ellsworth, ed. put'r there 16:23, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Is there a list somewhere of what websites count as reliable sources for book reviews? Other wikiprojects have that and a custom Google search to make finding things easier. Dream Focus 19:07, 12 January 2019 (UTC)