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Hello, there is currently a discussion ongoing at Conor McGregor's talk page in regards to the inclusion of certain material. Given the article is relevant to this project, I thought I'd leave a notification here as more input is required. Thank you ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 00:14, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
Hello - there's currently an RfC taking place Talk:Real Irish Republican Army about creating a new page for the so-called 'New IRA'. This may be of interest and I would encourage everyone to give their view to generate some consensus. st170e talk 23:31, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
Category:Years of the 20th century in the Republic of Ireland currently has no sub-cats between 1928 in the Irish Free State and 1949 in the Republic of Ireland. There is only the all-Ireland level, Category:Years of the 20th century in Ireland.
At this CFD, the name Category:Independent_Ireland_in_World_War_II was kept, for want of consensus to use either the preceding or subsequent names of the state.
Would it be acceptable and useful to create year categories for Independent Ireland? The contents of the annual Law and Politics categories all seem to be south of the border (10th, 11th & 12th Dáil, Irish general & presidential elections). – Fayenatic L ondon 16:05, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
A CFD discussion is taking place here that may interest this project. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 15:45, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
A CFD discussion is open here that may interest the project. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 15:54, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
I was adding a citation today when it occurred to me this might be worthwhile (consistent formatting, ease of adding citations). It turns out there was already a suggestion on the talk page from 8 years ago. I’ve created a template sandbox and a test page. The changes seem to work OK, but does anyone have an opinion about whether this is a good thing to do? A bit of testing from fresh eyes would be useful too.
The changes are two named parameters, placeid and accessdate, which can be added to existing unnamed parameters. E.g. {{Irish place name/sandbox|Cill na Mallach|church of the summits|placeid=1416562|accessdate=5 January 2017}}. —☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 07:38, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
The day is a Sunday and apparently it's the WikiBirthday. I was wondering if anyone in the region of Cork - or willing to be in the region of Cork (city) - would like to get together for Wiki themed coffee (or tea/chocolate/hot drinks/cold drinks) and plotting?- ☕ Antiqueight haver 03:09, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
A quick question, is an Independent Media Center article accepted as an NPOV source? PatrickGuinness ( talk) 16:10, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Please see section here on using Irish-language names in the lede for Unionist political parties. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 22:53, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Module:Country alias was recently modified ( diff) to change the Ireland flag (used at the British Empire Games in 1930) from the Flag of Leinster to The Royal Standard pre-1801. I believed this was wrong, and reverted, but since then a discussion ( permanent link) has taken place on my talk page.
Oddly enough both VEO15 and I are using the same reference ( [1]) to corroborate our side of the story: in the body of the text is "a golden harp on a blue (or possibly green) background", with the citation stating "A gold Irish harp on a blue field is also associated historically with the flag and coat of arms of Leinster." The former gives no information about which harp is displayed, but the latter seems to make it fairly clear that it's the blue variant of the Flag of Leinster. VEO15 argues that this image clearly shows the bust-ed harp, but personally I don't see enough evidence to overturn what's in the text. Additionally, of course, is the fact that the Royal Standard in question was last used in 1801...
So, I come here, asking for assistance/advice/thoughts/peanuts. Primefac ( talk) 21:20, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
A category has been nominated for upmerging here that may interest the project. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 20:12, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
An editor is adding "United Ireland" to the ideology line of many Irish political party infoboxes. Is this appropriate? I would argue it isn't. Sure, Fianna Fáil, Labour, and the PBPA aspire to a united Ireland to some degree or other. Even Fine Gael do. But are they actually doing anything to advance it? All parties support the Good Friday Agreement. Adding this "ideology" above core policy platforms seems much more like an editor pushing their agenda rather than anything else. But I may well be wrong. Other viewpoints very welcome. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 20:55, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
Pinging Apollo The Logician.
This is a new stub article about a sculptor, a brief look through various sources indicates that he was quite a "big deal" in the Irish art scene of his time, so I believe the article needs to be expanded significantly. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 07:22, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place at WP:CFD here that may interest the project. Despite repeated requests to the nominator, she has failed to notify this project. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 12:34, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
As the latter date should make clear, the list of battles cited here takes place long after the invasion ended (see Norman invasion of Ireland for full list). The 1261 Battle of Callann is among the last that could plausibly be included in this list as the next hundred years saw the conquest rolled back. Therefore I submit that the following be removed from the above list - Moiry Pass (1315) Connor (1315) Kells (1315) Skerries (1316) 2nd Áth na Ríogh (1316) Loch Rasca (1317) Dysert O'Dea (1318) Faughart (1318) Áth an Urchair (1329) Fiodh an Átha (1330) Cruachán Brí Eile (1385) Ros Mhic Thriúin (1394) Tragh-Bhaile (1399) Cluain Immorrais (1406) Knockdoe (1504) Silken Thomas's Rebellion (1534–35) Belahoe. I have rendered it thus /info/en/?search=Template:Campaignbox_Irish-Norman_wars; let me know if opinions differ. Fergananim ( talk) 12:17, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
FYI, take a look in commons:Commons:Photo challenge/2017 - February - Multilingualism if you have any file you'd like to upload, maybe in some of your archive at home. So far nothing from Ireland.-- Alexmar983 ( talk) 13:42, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on about the RUC, discrimination and brutality in 1968 at Talk:The Troubles#Edits by Alfie Gandon and Talk:The Troubles/Archive 2#RUC and "police brutality". Any contribution welcomed. Scolaire ( talk) 18:35, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Category:Irish language organizations has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. AusLondonder ( talk) 21:39, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Could use more eyes. - CorbieV ☊ ☼ 20:08, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
I'm surprised it doesn't. It's a big city with a million residents, spawned many famous people and if Belfast has its own one then why not the biggest city on the Island? 83.136.45.194 ( talk) 15:15, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
In conversation at User talk:Bastun#Language tagging, we were discussing the language tagging of Gaeilge terms used in Irish English. Language tagging has many benefits; MOS:ACCESS (specifically WP:ATLANG) recommends the use of language tags across Wikipedia, as does the Irish Manual of Style.
Clearly there are lots of terms from Gaeilge that are used as a normal part of Irish English — such as An Post, Dáil, Taoiseach, Seanad Éireann, An Garda Síochána, gardaí and so on — one of the purposes of language tagging is to provide help to speech synthesisers, for example. Applying language tags telling software "this word is (or was originally) Gaeilge" makes no difference to most users — there's no visible difference in the rendered page — but means that assistive technologies are less likely to screw things up.
It would be useful if editors could consider adding language tags around such terms if they're editing pages about Ireland — it's just a case of using {{
lang|ga|...}}
around the words in question.
Thanks! — OwenBlacker ( talk) 22:14, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
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There is a need for an article on education through the medium of Irish, corresponding to Welsh medium education and Gaelic medium education in Scotland. In my view this should include education in the Irish Republic and in Northern Ireland, and within and outside the Gaeltacht areas. I do not have the background to write this, a knowledge of Irish would probably be useful for examining sources.
I have found relevant coverage in Gaelscoil (where Irish-medium education redirects to), in Gaelcholáiste and in Education in Northern Ireland#Irish language medium education. There are brief mentions in Education in the Republic of Ireland.
What is the difference between Gaelscoil and Gaelcholáiste? Should these articles be merged, possibly into my requested new article? Otherwise please update them to clarify the distinction. I came here from County Donegal, which says "There are 1005 students attending the five Gaelscoileanna and two Gaelcholáistí in the rest of the county." – this needs clarification.
Thanks, Verbcatcher ( talk) 19:23, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
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I've nominated several redirects to Ireland for discussion at RfD today -
You are invited to participate in all of the above discussions. Thryduulf ( talk) 21:08, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Please comment on the move discussion at Talk:Varadkar. Thanks.-- Nevé – selbert 20:02, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
The article United People has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern: lacks notability.
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I'm looking to improve the localisation of Irish imagery on Commons later this year, but I'm not sure of the best approach. I believe it that local identity is typically tied to townlands. Is that right, and true in both the Republic and Northern Ireland? In that case its the townlands that are the ideal end-goal for rural photos; but which intermediate concepts are also useful? Baronies and Civil Parishes? In terms of a potential hierarchy as it applies to the two images to the right:
Northern Ireland is complicated by the modern districts which often just ignore the historic units, which makes it hard to work with them. However, on both WP and Commons, the detailed categorisation is done via counties (eg Category:Towns in County Tyrone).-- Nilf anion ( talk) 09:16, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
Is it true to say that the office of Taoiseach doesn't end until a new Taoiseach is appointed? Alternatively, might an analogous situation of sede vacante be said to exist upon the resignation of a Taoiseach? Is there a Taoiseach between the resignation of one and the appointment of another? If so, what is the Constitutional basis for it? Laurel Lodged ( talk) 08:21, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place about whether a series of templates used to generate references to the work of Leigh Rayment fall within Wikipedia's content guideline to use reliable sources, or alternatively whether they should be deprecated and tagged with {{ Self-published source}} and/or {{ Better source}}.
These templates are used for referencing over 10,000 articles relating to the House of Commons of England, the House of Commons of Ireland, the House of Commons of England, the House of Commons of Great Britain, the House of Commons of the United Kingdom, and the peerages and baronetcies of the islands of Ireland and Great Britain.
Since whatever decision is made will effect so many articles, I am notifying the following WikiProjects of this discussion: WP:WikiProject England, WP:WikiProject Ireland, WikiProject Northern Ireland, WikiProject Scotland, WikiProject United Kingdom, and WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom.
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Category:Derry, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for renaming to
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I see the Irish Folk music project seems to be inactive but I pretty sure that someone here can add entries for the missing list of 2010-2019 and fill in some entries for completely empty 1990-99 and other decades found in the Template:Irish folk music. ww2censor ( talk) 17:41, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
This seems to be an issue that has been bubbling for a while especially in regards to "Category:Terrorist incidents in the United Kingdom in <add year>". When exactly should we use these category? Most recently it seems to be going full-swing at Attack on Cloghoge checkpoint going by its edit history, where DagosNavy alone has removed it four times in the past month despite several editors objecting.
The oft used defense for their removal
WP:LABEL does not fully back the argument for exclusion of the term "terrorist". Indeed the opening sentence of
the full article states There are no forbidden words or expressions on Wikipedia, but certain expressions should be used with caution, because they may introduce bias.
. It is hardly against caution and introducing bias by calling a spade a spade in regards to what is widely regarded by all but IRA supporters/sympathisers as terrorism. The exact LABEL section on that article states Value-laden labels—such as calling an organization a cult, an individual a racist, terrorist, or freedom fighter, or a sexual practice a perversion—may express contentious opinion and are best avoided unless widely used by reliable sources to describe the subject, in which case use in-text attribution. Avoid myth in its informal sense, and establish the scholarly context for any formal use of the term.
- I doubt anyone here believes that the IRA's terrorism campaign is myth and disagrees that there is copious amounts of evidence that recognises the IRA's campaign whether it be against civilians or the state as nothing but terrorism. I have never seen anything scholarly or otherwise that tries to claim that the IRA carried out two camapaigns: one terrorist and one legitimate.
I formally propose that the category be used on all attack (added attack for clarity Mabuska (talk) 17:34, 24 July 2017 (UTC)) articles by paramilitary organisations (republican and loyalist) regardless of whether the target was civilian or not. Mabuska (talk) 12:16, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
(ec) @ Mabuska:, should this not be a formal RfC? (I don't know, I'm just asking the question). Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 12:41, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Support the proposal with Andy Dingley's caveat that it shouldn't be used on all articles, just those involving actual attacks. Obviously common sense should apply, too: the War of Independence flying columns and drug dealing/bank robberies/prison escapes, etc., were not terrorist in nature by any common definition; and a reliable source should describe the attack as terrorist. If an article lacks such a reference, there should be opportunity to source it rather than a category being removed on the grounds its "unsourced". Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 14:36, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
I think Attack on Cloghoge checkpoint should not be labeled as a terrorist incident - myself, DagosNavy and perhaps others object to its inclusion, while others object to its exclusion. It was a military attack on a military target. Minimax Regret ( talk) 19:25, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
@ Minimax Regret: @ DagosNavy:. Minimax it was not military attacking military. It was paramilitary attacking military. Proscribed paramilitary at that. The IRA were an "army" of an unrecognised phantom state so do not qualify as military in any meaning of the word. Also if you are calling military targets legitimate for a proscribed paramilitary organisation (largely made up of people who were citizens of the UK from birth whether they accepted it or not) that embarked on a terrorist campaign that included attacking military targets to influence the public by terror then I have to doubt your impartiality on this issue.
So if military targets are legitmate and attacks on civilians are terrorism then clarify what do the following classify as?
Reason for asking is because the IRA considered these all legitimate despite the fact none are military. The IRA attacked "Crown forces" and "collaborators" and civilians. Mabuska (talk) 19:38, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
You are cordially invited to participated in a discussion of the proposal to merge Rochestown into Douglas, County Cork, following expansion of the latter page. I've only belatedly noticed that the former has fewer than 30 watchers, with only 2 recent editors, so a few more knowledgeable editors would be welcome to help us reach some form of consensus, one way or the other! Wasechun tashunka HOWL TRACK 16:10, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
The related Category:Peerage of Ireland duke stubs has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming . You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page. |
Dawynn ( talk) 02:27, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Following the recent deletion from Commons of several images of murals in Wales (see c:Commons:Deletion requests/Murals in Wales), I intend to nominate most of the images in c:Category:Murals in Ireland and its subcategories for deletion, on the basis that they are copyright violations and that there is no evidence of permission from the mural artists. UK Freedom of panorama does not apply to painted murals, and Ireland Freedom of panorama is assumed to have the same rules.
However, I am aware that murals are of particular cultural significance in Northern Ireland, and I want to give the opportunity for any images that meet the Wikipedia:Non-free content guidelines to be transferred to the English and Irish Wikipedias, for use in articles with {{ Non-free use rationale}}s.
Article that may qualify for non-free images include:
My view is that non-free images are not justified in most articles about individuals and organisations, including Bobby Sands, Red Hand Commando and Provisional Irish Republican Army.
The corresponding articles in the Irish language Wikipedia may use these images, and if possible they should be handled in the same way. Some of these images are used in other Wikipedia language editions, but the English and Irish editions are the most relevant here, and editors of other language editions are likely to follow our lead.
Does anyone challenge my assessment of the copyright status of photographs of murals? If not, then please assist me by selecting non-free images for these and other articles, and transferring them to English and Irish Wikipedia with {{ Non-free use rationale}}s. Verbcatcher ( talk) 03:38, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
I'd love to rerun James Joyce at TFA on the Main Page on his birthday this February, but at the moment there's too much unreferenced text, and 4 dead or dubious links. A little help? - Dank ( push to talk) 20:30, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Dank, have you thought of putting the article up for peer review? This would give you an idea of what needs to be done without throwing up the obstacle of a FAR. Scolaire ( talk) 10:30, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
List of Provisional IRA dead is currently listed for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Provisional IRA dead. Participation welcomed. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 21:47, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Three subcategories of Category:Anglican archbishops by diocese in Ireland have been nominated for renaming. Feedback from this WikiProject's members at the category discussion would be appreciated, in order to help reach a consensus. Thank you, -- Black Falcon ( talk) 19:38, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
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Your opinion would be welcome at Talk:Albert Cashier#Pronoun gender. Mathglot ( talk) 09:55, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.
A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_Ireland
Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.— Rod talk 16:18, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
Please help. Xx236 ( talk) 10:30, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
I've opened a discussion at Talk:Flag of Northern Ireland#Current use of the flag on Wikipedia and I'd be grateful if other editors would voice their views. st 170 e 12:44, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
There is a proposal to edit Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Ireland-related articles to clarify when it is appropriate to add an Irish translation to the first sentence of an article's lead, and when it is not. The Discussion is at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Ireland-related articles#Proposal. Input would be very much appreciated, as editing a Manual of Style without thorough discussion is not the most desirable. Scolaire ( talk) 09:43, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
A requested move at Talk:Offences Against the Person Act 1861 has just been relisted. Please come and add your choice and rationale to the debate. Paine Ellsworth put'r there 19:12, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
This IP is reverting to defend a number of translations to Irish added to the lead sentence of subjects where this is not needed per WP:IMOS - subjects including Irish art, Tara Brooch, and so on, all unlikely to be referred to using the Irish form in English speech. Johnbod ( talk) 13:16, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
NB: The 80.111.x.x IP has been blocked as a sock of Apollo the Logician. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 21:29, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
The Twelve Apostles of Ireland Challenge is an edition competition seeking to create and improve articles on the Twelve Apostles of Ireland. Anyone in any language can subscribe and collaborate on building or translating articles relating to the Twelve Apostles. Medals and real icons will be rewarded to the winners. To participate, one just needs to subscribe here and start collaborating. Dia Duit! Leefeni de Karik ( talk) 20:56, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Category:Fictional American people of Irish descent, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion, along with 7 similar categories.. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 15:45, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
The Thirty-sixth Amendment of the Constitution Bill 2018 (Ireland) currently has fewer than 30 page watchers and needs more eyes on it at the moment. In particular, a discussion has commenced on the criteria for inclusion in the "Campaigns" section of the article, and wider input would be welcome. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:08, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Category:Loughs of the Republic of Ireland, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for renaming to "Lakes of the Republic of Ireland". A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you.. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 01:41, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Please can you help fix a category navigation problem?
I have devised a way of making it easier to navigate between Irish by-county categories: Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland/CatNavProposal
However, before rolling it out across ~2,500 category pages, I need to know:
See Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland/CatNavProposal for an explanation of the problem and my proposed solution, and please leave your feedback at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ireland/CatNavProposal.
Your input would be very helpful. I think it will take about twenty minutes to assess the proposal. Thanks. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 18:14, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
This proposal has now moved on to a trial implementation. See WT:IECATNAVP#Trial. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 02:52, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
This is unsourced and unhistorical. How may it be removed? Fergananim ( talk) 15:46, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Category:16th-century British medical doctors, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. Note that the discussion relates to the geographical, political and chronological scope of the term "British" which is why Ireland falls into its scope. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 14:15, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Category:Loughs of Northern Ireland, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion along with its 6 sub-categories. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you.. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 08:13, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
If anyone's interested, I managed to make Primitive Irish a featured article in Portuguese, it took me a lot of research and the results are good, I'm sure we could use it to improve the tiny respective article here in English. I'll start. Leefeni de Karik ( talk) 02:08, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
National Party (Ireland) includes this in the lead but does not elaborate on it anywhere in its body. It's attributed to a broken link that appears to be a first-party source, but I suspect they are only using it as a clumsy euphemism for Irish reunification.
Our Irish republicanism article appears to be mostly historical, and discusses a period when "Republicanism" and "Home Rule" were opposing factions of the Irish independence movement; but in a contemporary southern context I'm fairly certain no one is seriously arguing for a return to monarchy, so it could only make sense if it means "Northern Ireland should be incorporated into the Republic".
I know people in Ireland are largely aware of "Republican" and "pro-reunification" being basically coterminous, but it seems like the kind of confusing term we should avoid when even the article it links to is mostly about pre-independence republicanism. (It's exceptionally misleading when describing certain "Irish Alt-Right" groups that seem to be in favour of a unified Ireland under a fascist or theocratic dictatorship, which would probably be better described as anti-republican.)
Thoughts?
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 09:22, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
There is a discussion at The Troubles about the suitability of an image in the infobox. Input from interested editors would be welcome. Scolaire ( talk) 18:22, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
I just noticed that oireachtas.ie has a header that mentions switching over to a new site on 14 May 2018. This might break external links to that site, so they might need updating. Autarch ( talk) 18:22, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Hello all - as a Carlovian I'm not the most objective person to weigh in on this, but given it is an Irish topic I thought I would direct people to the nomination for deletion of the article about Darrers. You might all agree with the nomination of course! Smirkybec ( talk) 11:20, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.
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A discussion is taking place about the inclusion of disappeared people who are not part of the "Disappeared" or the articles scope. More input would be appreciated. Mabuska (talk) 11:42, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
@ The C of E: and @ Steven a91: have removed the word "national" from the Ireland national rugby union team article without any discussion or consensus. No explanation given. I am pretty sure no Irish Wikipedia editor would be in favour of this move. Djln Djln ( talk) 14:09, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
Folks, I would like to hear a few ideas upon the form of names used in many Irish biographical articles. This one is an example. It seems very strange to refer to people like him by the English form of their names, especially in this case when people like him barely spoke English and were deeply opposed to all things English. I am not asking for the article to be rewritten as Gaeilge, but to respect such aspects of their lives and insist upon Aodh Ruadh Ó Domhnaill over Hugh Roe O'Donnell. I might add this is also good scholarly practise here in Ireland to use these forms for such people, because of the deeply Gaelic context of their lives, so there are a number of good bases on which to do this. Fergananim ( talk) 16:35, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Want to raise info that the GS has changed its organizational structure in 2018.
https://www.garda.ie/en/About-Us/Organisational-structure/Organisation-Structure-2018.pdf
The link is there for your information. Ominae ( talk) 13:49, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
As far as I am able to discover, this is a name for Armagh. It's given in this (reliable, pay-walled) source as the birth-place of David Cunningham (musician), so I put Armagh in the page. An IP has objected. This is a WP:BLP, so it's important not to be wrong. Is there any room for error, any other Ard Mhacha? Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 10:28, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
There is an RfC underway here on the inclusion of mention of Joan Freeman's family. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 22:41, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
I'm confused by this edit. Would someone familiar with Irish government please take a look? Rivertorch FIRE WATER 04:16, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
Can someone please create the article The Republic of Ireland and the Commonwealth of Nations to outline the historical relationship between the Irish Free State, the Republic of Ireland, and the Commonwealth of Nations, especially since 1922? - ( 101.98.104.241 ( talk) 12:25, 8 August 2018 (UTC))
There's a request for comments on whether the motto of the Red Hand Commando, Lámh Dearg Abú, should be called an "Irish language" motto, or an "Ulster Gaelic" motto. Any input would be welcomed. ~ Asarlaí 18:10, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Now that the order has been signed for the Irish presidential election, 2018, the pages of candidates/those seeking nominations to stand for election could do with more watchers:
I'd have NPOV and possibly COI concerns about some of these articles. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 08:30, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Today I saw this edit and opened this discussion. What do you think? -- AFBorchert ( talk) 22:51, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
There is a request at Talk:Noel Lemass Jnr to move the article to Noel Lemass. -- Scolaire ( talk) 11:20, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
I've started a proposed new naming conventions for articles on railway stations in Ireland at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Irish stations). It's modeled after the other former conventions already established for Canada ( WP:CANSTATION, Poland ( WP:PLSTATION), the UK ( WP:UKSTATION), and the U.S. ( WP:USSTATION). It was written to follow the unwritten practice already in place as closely as possible. Comments and suggestions are welcome at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Irish stations) and Village pump.-- Cúchullain t/ c 19:36, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Mass_renaming_of_election_articles,_bypassing_WP:Requested_moves.
I just used WP:AWB to count the Irish articles which are likely to be renamed: I count 860 of them under Category:Elections in Ireland.
After 17 editors participated in a poorly-notified RFC, the intention is to move them without further discussion, and without notification. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 10:56, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
An RfC on moving the year from the end to the start of article titles (e.g. South African general election, 2019 to 2019 South African general election) has been reopened for further comment, including on whether a bot could be used move the articles if it closed in favour of the change: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (government and legislation)#Proposed change to election/referendum naming format. Cheers, Number 5 7 15:37, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
There's an RfC on adopting the proposed guideline for transport stations, Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Irish stations), here. Interested editors are asked to weigh in.-- Cúchullain t/ c 13:41, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
There is a fairly regular meetup in Cork, in collaboration with Dublin2019. ☕ Antiqueight chatter 11:42, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Editors with an interest/knowledge of the Tuam Mother and Baby Home are requested to review recent changes and contribute opinions to Talk:Bon_Secours_Mother_and_Baby_Home#Trimming_in_October_2018 if they so wish. Regards, Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 14:13, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi members of WP:Ireland! I'm just over from WP:CRIN and looking for volunteers. I'm currently expanding the coverage of Irish cricket, from players, to teams, to grounds. I'm wondering if anyone who is handy with a camera might be able to take some pictures of these cricket grounds, all major venues currently missing images. Most are located in or around Belfast/Dublin. I would do it myself, but I'm on the south-coast of England! Any photos would be much appreciated by all at WP:CRIN. Thanks in advance for any help. StickyWicket ( talk) 17:55, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Is Moycullen a hamlet or a large parish? See talk page. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 11:39, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
Whilst the article can easily accommodate both entities as it has been done elsewhere for other places that share a parish and village (or whatever) name, however why not simply create a civil parish article for Moycullen instead? It is a geopolitical subdivision so is notable enough for an article. Simples. It also means you can say you created an article Laurel. Whoop, whoop! Mabuska (talk) 22:45, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Laurels statement on townlands and settlements is inherently wrong as they exist in one or more townlands meaning they technically are part of the settlement. Mabuska (talk) 16:58, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. -- Izno Repeat ( talk) 21:40, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
I'm a bit irritated by the inconsistency in how Northern Irish people are categorized on Wikipedia. Looking at Category:DJs by nationality, all of the DJs by nationality are categorized by the adjective form (e.g. "American DJs", "Russian DJs", "British DJs", even " Welsh DJs" and " Scottish DJs") but not Northern Irish DJs who are categorized as " DJs from Northern Ireland". I don't like this at all! I once started a CfD to change the DJs category but it was opposed on the basis that all the other Northern Irish people categories use the "xxx from Northern Ireland" form. So I'm proposing to change it on a wider scale, changing all category instances of "xxx from Northern Ireland" to "Northern Irish xxx" for consistency with the other similar categories of different countries. Flooded with them hundreds 13:47, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
The article Bon Secours Mother and Baby Home would benefit from some photographs before the planned excavations begin. Unfortunately the images in the Technical Report are (evidently) used by permission and so are not public domain. If anyone is passing through Tuam or lives near the site it would be great to get some images uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. AugusteBlanqui ( talk) 13:34, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
I've just come across an error on the Tweed page and then found more and worse on Donegal tweed. Please see the discussion page of the latter. Does someone here feel up to it? -- Madame ( talk) 14:09, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
See Talk:Foreign relations of the Republic of Ireland#Requested_move_18_November_2018. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 07:57, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
See: Talk:National Museum of Ireland – Archaeology. According to their website "The Life and Death in the Roman World exhibition has been temporarily removed to facilitate the exhibition Clontarf 1014: Brian Boru and the Battle for Dublin". Is that still open? It appears in the "current" exhibition tab, as does "Rites of Passage at Tara" - both were supposed to be temporary. Does anyone know what the current displays are? Johnbod ( talk) 03:39, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Category:Foreign relations of the Republic of Ireland, which is within the scope of this wikiproject, has been nominated for renaming to Category:Foreign relations of Ireland. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you.. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 00:42, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Just came across this copyright notice on the Oireachtas website. It seems to be basically saying "feel free to use the images herein, just attribute, and we retain copyright" - I'm not sure if that's entirely compatible with CC-by-SA, but it would seem to be ok to reuse their TD and Senator images where we're missing them. (Apologies if everyone knew this and was doing it already!) Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 23:47, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Why is it that Template:County Antrim says "Places in Country Antrim", Template:County Carlow says "Places in Country Carlow", and Template:County Cork says "Places in Country Cork", but Template:County Dublin says "Divisions of the former county of Dublin"? And why does Template:County Dublin not include places such as Tallaght, Templeogue, Ballsbridge, Clontarf, Raheny and so on, like the other county templates? Scolaire ( talk) 20:34, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
@
Spleodrach,
Finnegas, and
Scolaire: I am coming to the discussion a bit late, but just wanted to note that it is not entirely true to say, as Spleodrach did, that Dublin is a former county
.
It was indeed abolished in 1992 as a local govt area, but it remains in use for other state-derived purposes which include vehicle registration and the land registry. There may be more official uses which I am unaware of, or maybe not. But there are certainly many informal uses.
I think that current structure of the Template:County Dublin works OK, but I just wanted to stress that the legal situation isn't as clearcut as some assume.
Further muddiness is illustrated by Scolaire's initial example of Template:County Antrim. All 6 counties in Norniron were abolished for local govt purposes by the Local Government Act (Northern Ireland) 1972 and the Local Government (Boundaries) Act (Northern Ireland) 1971. However, like County Dublin, they retain some uses, including Lieutenancy areas and vehicle registration.
My own experience of Norniron is that that the counties are still used as the primary informal geographical divisions. I have never had anyone tell me that they are from Newry and Mourne or Newry, Mourne and Down. People will identify location by county or by town/village, as far as I can see neither the 1972–2015 districts nor the post-2015 districts have supplanted the counties as commonly-used geographical divisions.
Obviously my anecdotal observations are in no way a reliable source, but checking confirms my experience. See e.g. this Gnews search for "County Tyrone". The news media are still using the counties.
And then there are Rural districts. For local govt purposes, they were abolished over 90 years ago, by the Local Government Act 1925. However, they continue to be used for statistical purposes and for defining constituencies: see e.g. the Electoral (Amendment) (Dáil Constituencies) Act 2017. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 03:28, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
I fixed link to the Ryan Commission used as a reference in St. Conleths Reformatory School to use the Wayback machine. Seems the domain may have expired - is there any organised effort to update the links to this site in this manner or are the updates ad hoc? Autarch ( talk) 05:37, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
I'm looking for somebody with the expertise to fix a table at Leader of Sinn Féin#Vice Presidents. The details are at Talk:Leader of Sinn Féin#Vice Presidents. Thanks in advance. Scolaire ( talk) 14:22, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Category:17th century in Northern Ireland, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion, along with several other similar categories.. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 22:14, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi there is a deletion discussion underway ( Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nancy O'Rahilly) where not many people have taken part. It might be helpful if members of WikiProject Ireland could express a view on whether or not the subject of the article is notable. Mccapra ( talk) 12:12, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
At Talk:Great Famine (Ireland)#DS notice there was a request regarding why that article was subject to the discretionary sanctions authorised for The Troubles which has lead to me discovering that it is very unclear whether the scope of that authorisation includes "Irish nationalism" (the aspect that allows it on the Great Famine article) and "British nationalism in relation to Ireland" or not. If you have opinions about whether the Great Famine specifically and/or Irish nationalism in general and/or British nationalism in relation to Ireland (independent from The Troubles) should be subject to discretionary sanctions or not, please comment here or at Talk:Great Famine (Ireland)#DS notice. Please do invite comments from other relevant people/places (but to respond in one of those two places only), but this is just an informal exploration of views from those working in the topic area prior to a formal request for clarification/amendment so it's not vital at this stage that everybody is heard (that opportunity will come at the ARCA). Thryduulf ( talk) 01:49, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
I have now initiated the clarification request: Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Clarification request: The Troubles and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the Wikipedia:Arbitration guide may be of use. Thryduulf ( talk) 17:20, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
I may have a biased point of view but I get the feeling tram stops (and commuter routes) are beginning to dominate Irish Railway Articles at the expense of historic stations. Most editing is by anon IP Addresses. Perhaps this has occurred at Harcourt Street Station where an IP user seems to be attempting to dominate what was an historic railway station with a nondescript tram stop. To some event when Cuchullain moved the article from Harcourt Street Railway station it might be argued the article got re-purposed to an opportunity to show pictures of trams. Anyway I have just done some reverting but quite frankly I'm not going to continue much longer with the number of unsourced IP edits what are occurring with Irish Railway articles at present. You can probably tell I am not happy. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 18:27, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:Municipal district (Ireland)#Requested move 9 February 2019, regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, Warm Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 15:31, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
I recently nominated Belfast East (Dáil constituency) and four related pages for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belfast East (Dáil constituency), but they need more discussion there on the best way to proceed. — Iveagh Gardens ( talk) 13:29, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I have placed a request to move the Mount Errigal page to Errigal. Discussion and opinions are invited, Warm regards, Padraig1968 ( talk) 09:43, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Both @ Jnestorius: and I have set up pages for the upcoming divorce referendum, which we have agreed to merge: Thirty-fifth Amendment of the Constitution (Divorce) Bill 2016 and Thirty-fifth Amendment of the Constitution Bill 2016. I'd welcome the views of others on what should be kept between the two pages. See Talk:Thirty-fifth Amendment of the Constitution (Divorce) Bill 2016#Merge for the discussion thus far. — Iveagh Gardens ( talk) 14:49, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
Could I invite some contributions to this question please? It's about naming conventions for Irish baronies and one in particular. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 21:07, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
Please comment at the RfC at Talk:United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland#Demonym on whether the demonym Briton is appropriate for people from Ireland before 1922. DrKay ( talk) 17:14, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
There is a discussion here, Talk:Donegal#Proposed name change of this page to Donegal (town), which might be of interest to this project's members. Onel5969 TT me 16:14, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
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There's a move discussion at Talk:Longford (disambiguation)#Requested move 1 April 2019 that may be of interest here. Declangi ( talk) 01:20, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
A discussion has been initiated for the Great Famine article, to consider "Great Irish Famine," "Irish Potato Famine," etc. Not many Project editors have commented yet, but I think it is important to contribute to an appropriate naming maintenance. SeoR ( talk) 08:17, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
I happen to my sins for an independent matter to be watchlisting WP:ANI this morning for an unrelated matter and observe concerns relating to Ireland are in discussion at WP:ANI#Accusation of undisclosed WP:PAID editing / large scale reversion of edits relating to articles connected to Ireland which apparently has also made the Irish media. Not sure what to make of it all. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 10:16, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
A requested move discussion has been initiated for The Troubles to be moved to Northern Ireland conflict. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. -- Scolaire ( talk) 15:12, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
There is an RfC on whether all Wikipedia categories should use the spelling "organization" (regardless of the respective country) taking place here. Number 5 7 19:24, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Dublin, a page which falls within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Dublin and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Dublin during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 15:41, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Ireland, which falls within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Ireland and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Ireland during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 19:38, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
I posted this on Talk:Sport in Ireland in January this year but no one seems to have seen the post. And on my discussion page in March, I asked where on wikipedia this question should be asked to have the best chance of getting help.
I am already aware of field hockey, rugby union, rugby league, cricket, quidditch and basketball. Basketball creates even more confusion for me, because the flag of the Republic of Ireland is used but the players come from all over the island. So I guess there are more All-Ireland national teams that use Republic of Ireland flag?
I have introduced in Swedish wikipeida, that if we use the national field hockey team template, {{hlhf|IRE}} it will automatically be the right flag, just like in English wikipedia ( Ireland). I have done the same for all our national team templates, the template for football provides football flags (New Caledonia, Ireland (1882–1950), Martinique and more), as an example.
So now I need help knowing which sports have all-Ireland teams. Thanks. DenSportgladeSkåningen ( talk) 16:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Content moved to Talk:The Irish Times#The Arnotts. Editors are invited to comment there. Scolaire ( talk) 10:10, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Can anyone help source information on this person? It all seems to come from a single source, which I cannot otherwise verify, and frankly I distrust the source concerned as it has previous form. For the moment the only change will be correcting the surname form in the DEFAULTSORT. Fergananim ( talk) 10:56, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
A difficultly has arisen at Ballymote#Hapsburg vs Habsburg over which name to use and what to name it. My edit to use Irish English on the article has been reverted. I will support the views of consensus. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 22:04, 8 May 2019 (UTC) Sorted as Habsburg. Thanks. Done
I was just hoping to get some second opinions from the WP Ireland wiki contributors regarding whats been going on in the finance/economics topics, as various articles are within the projects scope. An ANI was opened by a different editor last month and it was messy. It was pointless really and only going to play out one way given there's no evidence. That ended up being a red herring for the real issue. An underlying problem regarding WP:Advocacy in this topic area. I had left the ANI a week before it closed to gather evidence, which was a time consuming and nightmare-ish process. I pulled up examples/evidence of various WP polices being breached like WP:Sockpuppets, WP:NPOV, WP: Bias in Sourcing etc. You guys are probably aware of the issues and controversy's around the Irish corporate tax system. There's no point defending the indefensible, but when looking through this carefully it seemed over the top. Maybe I’m imagining this. I'd started to prepare some evidence in My Sandbox (for now) with the hopes some experienced editors would look over this and tell me either way. I realise the correct process for policy breaches are various dispute processes, but just looking for 2nd opinions at the moment. Sorry about the length. I’d love to say that's it, but it's just scratching the surface. Renmap0o talk 05:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
@ Renmap0o: As far as I can read this serious accusations have been made or implied on this talk page regarding Britishfinance (who seems to have suspended editing) and an AfD. My concern is I can find no such AfD. I assume you are talking a calling raised by Jimg at Talk:Leprechaun economics#Proposed deletion of article which seems an unusual (and non-binding) course of action given WP:PRODNOM and WP:STFW give better direction. In any event this that is not an AfD. Please give a definitive and unambiguous link to the AfD you are referring to above. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 12:07, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Statement re above from Britishfinance
Only just seeing the above now (from Bastun's ping to me):
"Britishfinance", most likely a political organisation, attempting to manipulate the information by targeting a certain country and presenting one sided information, and with a link to a newspaper article where IDA Ireland called me a "paid agent".
controversial editor, which was also ignored [4]
build a case of evidenceagainst me. [5] [6]
Two other points:
Renmap0o uses a line used by another IDA SOCK, that mention of Ireland is disproportionate in general WP tax articles (e.g. Tax haven). The issue is that Ireland is either the #1, or close to #1, in almost all notable tax haven categories that the most notable tax academics cover (and who are the basis for the overhaul of all WP tax articles, not tax NGOs as Renmap0o alledges above). Ireland has featured as a top 10 tax haven on every academic list since the first lists in 1994 (the IDA despise tax academics, and someone had gone to great lengths to take reference of them out of WP tax haven articles); Ireland is the largest tax haven by scale, it created the largest BEPS tool in history (Double Irish), which led to the largest corporate tax fine in history (Apple's 13bn), it is the largest source of tax inversions, holds the record for the largest tax inversion in history (Medtronic), largest failed tax inversion (Pfizer Allergan); it is only second to Cayman as a shadow banking centre, is the 3rd largest Conduit OFC, and has overtaken Luxembourg and Cayman for SPVs. I could go on and on. Search for "Ireland" in the tax haven article and it appears in almost every notable category.
To the Irish WP community, which Renmap0o is trying to recruit to their agenda, the material that I have added to Irish tax-related articles comes from mostly academic sources or tax authors notable enough to have their own WP articles (and/or also their books). The facts used are a small summary of what is known about Ireland's tax system or the 1,000-page reports on it produced by tax experts in Washington, London (who are trying to copy Ireland completely), and Brussels. Ireland is not a tax haven because of shady/unknown dealings, Ireland is a tax haven because the US explicitly wants it as a tax haven. With a few exceptions, most of the tax material produced by NGOs is not fit for an Encylopedia; however, it is also very important to temper the IDA Ireland misuse of OECD sources (the IDA always quote that the OECD does not consider Ireland a tax haven, but forget to mention that the OECD only consider Trinidad & Tobago as a tax haven; and note, the March 2018 version of WP Tax Haven article had a long section implying that the definition of a tax haven was from the OECD?!). While technical, and academic, it is an interesting area, and should also be for Irish readers. There is a lot happening now with how the US is changing a 40-year stance on its tax policy, and that will affect Ireland. I hope to continue chronicling it for WP.
I advise you to examine the totality of new user (?) Renmap0o's few edits before engaging, and I would appreciate any admin taking some action. Britishfinance ( talk) 12:12, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Comment
There may indeed be enough to consider WP:ANI but I don't have bandwidth currently to make that consideration and it may be an energy waste. In general I don't think I see anything that can't be handled at article level within the normal scope of article development and especially as this approach has seemingly been successful at Ireland as a Tax Haven and Gemma O'Doherty. Again something like Modified gross national income might be better under a name that associated the article to Ireland (It's probably gone to far to be made generic), but again that can be discussed at article level. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 13:28, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
I have nominated this article for deletion, the discussion can be found at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South Derry Independent Republican Unit. Mountain Battles ( talk) 16:32, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Over the last month, Fergananim has moved a ton of articles on Irish historical figures to what he calls the "correct form of name". Thus Rory O'Moore was moved to Ruairí Ó Mórdha, despite the English form being used virtually exclusively in history books. Worse, when he sees a need for disambiguation, he makes up a crazy long name, so Rory O'More becomes Ruairí Óg mac Ruairí Caoch Ó Mórdha. Can somebody with some expertise (I regognised those two names but not the others) check the articles and see if, as I suspect, they've all been wrongly moved? Scolaire ( talk) 09:52, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Gaelic games is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Gaelic games until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America 1000 01:06, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Shane O'Neill (son of Conn) (the Shane O'Neill) to be moved to Shane O'Neill, with the latter moving to Shane O'Neill (disambiguation). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion at Talk:Shane O'Neill (son of Conn)#Requested move 28 May 2019. -- Scolaire ( talk) 16:16, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
The above move request having failed, I am proposing to move the article to Shane O'Neill (Irish chieftain). Again, comments or alternative proposals would be welcome. The discussion is at Talk:Shane O'Neill (son of Conn)#Informal move proposal 31 May 2019. -- Scolaire ( talk) 11:56, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
We tend to associate civil rights activist and human rights activist with modern times, but while looking at this article it struck me that such terms do apply to many such past people. Yet the terms, or at least chronologically appropriate ones, are not present for vast swathes of such Irish people. So, I am going to add these categories to this article, but if unsuitable or if they can be replaced by more appropriate ones, please edit accordingly. However I would argue that basic civil and human rights are the same, then and now. Fergananim ( talk) 13:12, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether Geraldine Weir-Rogers v. Sf Trust Ltd is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Geraldine Weir-Rogers v. Sf Trust Ltd until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. AugusteBlanqui ( talk) 21:35, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Mr Cooney went to some political meetings and briefly to jail. He became a doctor but is not notable for that. The source links are dead. Thousands of other people did the same as him and are not on wikipedia. 78.19.200.247 ( talk) 09:56, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, there is currently a discussion ongoing at Conor McGregor's talk page in regards to the inclusion of certain material. Given the article is relevant to this project, I thought I'd leave a notification here as more input is required. Thank you ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 00:14, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
Hello - there's currently an RfC taking place Talk:Real Irish Republican Army about creating a new page for the so-called 'New IRA'. This may be of interest and I would encourage everyone to give their view to generate some consensus. st170e talk 23:31, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
Category:Years of the 20th century in the Republic of Ireland currently has no sub-cats between 1928 in the Irish Free State and 1949 in the Republic of Ireland. There is only the all-Ireland level, Category:Years of the 20th century in Ireland.
At this CFD, the name Category:Independent_Ireland_in_World_War_II was kept, for want of consensus to use either the preceding or subsequent names of the state.
Would it be acceptable and useful to create year categories for Independent Ireland? The contents of the annual Law and Politics categories all seem to be south of the border (10th, 11th & 12th Dáil, Irish general & presidential elections). – Fayenatic L ondon 16:05, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
A CFD discussion is taking place here that may interest this project. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 15:45, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
A CFD discussion is open here that may interest the project. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 15:54, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
I was adding a citation today when it occurred to me this might be worthwhile (consistent formatting, ease of adding citations). It turns out there was already a suggestion on the talk page from 8 years ago. I’ve created a template sandbox and a test page. The changes seem to work OK, but does anyone have an opinion about whether this is a good thing to do? A bit of testing from fresh eyes would be useful too.
The changes are two named parameters, placeid and accessdate, which can be added to existing unnamed parameters. E.g. {{Irish place name/sandbox|Cill na Mallach|church of the summits|placeid=1416562|accessdate=5 January 2017}}. —☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 07:38, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
The day is a Sunday and apparently it's the WikiBirthday. I was wondering if anyone in the region of Cork - or willing to be in the region of Cork (city) - would like to get together for Wiki themed coffee (or tea/chocolate/hot drinks/cold drinks) and plotting?- ☕ Antiqueight haver 03:09, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
A quick question, is an Independent Media Center article accepted as an NPOV source? PatrickGuinness ( talk) 16:10, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Please see section here on using Irish-language names in the lede for Unionist political parties. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 22:53, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Module:Country alias was recently modified ( diff) to change the Ireland flag (used at the British Empire Games in 1930) from the Flag of Leinster to The Royal Standard pre-1801. I believed this was wrong, and reverted, but since then a discussion ( permanent link) has taken place on my talk page.
Oddly enough both VEO15 and I are using the same reference ( [1]) to corroborate our side of the story: in the body of the text is "a golden harp on a blue (or possibly green) background", with the citation stating "A gold Irish harp on a blue field is also associated historically with the flag and coat of arms of Leinster." The former gives no information about which harp is displayed, but the latter seems to make it fairly clear that it's the blue variant of the Flag of Leinster. VEO15 argues that this image clearly shows the bust-ed harp, but personally I don't see enough evidence to overturn what's in the text. Additionally, of course, is the fact that the Royal Standard in question was last used in 1801...
So, I come here, asking for assistance/advice/thoughts/peanuts. Primefac ( talk) 21:20, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
A category has been nominated for upmerging here that may interest the project. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 20:12, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
An editor is adding "United Ireland" to the ideology line of many Irish political party infoboxes. Is this appropriate? I would argue it isn't. Sure, Fianna Fáil, Labour, and the PBPA aspire to a united Ireland to some degree or other. Even Fine Gael do. But are they actually doing anything to advance it? All parties support the Good Friday Agreement. Adding this "ideology" above core policy platforms seems much more like an editor pushing their agenda rather than anything else. But I may well be wrong. Other viewpoints very welcome. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 20:55, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
Pinging Apollo The Logician.
This is a new stub article about a sculptor, a brief look through various sources indicates that he was quite a "big deal" in the Irish art scene of his time, so I believe the article needs to be expanded significantly. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 07:22, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place at WP:CFD here that may interest the project. Despite repeated requests to the nominator, she has failed to notify this project. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 12:34, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
As the latter date should make clear, the list of battles cited here takes place long after the invasion ended (see Norman invasion of Ireland for full list). The 1261 Battle of Callann is among the last that could plausibly be included in this list as the next hundred years saw the conquest rolled back. Therefore I submit that the following be removed from the above list - Moiry Pass (1315) Connor (1315) Kells (1315) Skerries (1316) 2nd Áth na Ríogh (1316) Loch Rasca (1317) Dysert O'Dea (1318) Faughart (1318) Áth an Urchair (1329) Fiodh an Átha (1330) Cruachán Brí Eile (1385) Ros Mhic Thriúin (1394) Tragh-Bhaile (1399) Cluain Immorrais (1406) Knockdoe (1504) Silken Thomas's Rebellion (1534–35) Belahoe. I have rendered it thus /info/en/?search=Template:Campaignbox_Irish-Norman_wars; let me know if opinions differ. Fergananim ( talk) 12:17, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
FYI, take a look in commons:Commons:Photo challenge/2017 - February - Multilingualism if you have any file you'd like to upload, maybe in some of your archive at home. So far nothing from Ireland.-- Alexmar983 ( talk) 13:42, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on about the RUC, discrimination and brutality in 1968 at Talk:The Troubles#Edits by Alfie Gandon and Talk:The Troubles/Archive 2#RUC and "police brutality". Any contribution welcomed. Scolaire ( talk) 18:35, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Category:Irish language organizations has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. AusLondonder ( talk) 21:39, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Could use more eyes. - CorbieV ☊ ☼ 20:08, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
I'm surprised it doesn't. It's a big city with a million residents, spawned many famous people and if Belfast has its own one then why not the biggest city on the Island? 83.136.45.194 ( talk) 15:15, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
In conversation at User talk:Bastun#Language tagging, we were discussing the language tagging of Gaeilge terms used in Irish English. Language tagging has many benefits; MOS:ACCESS (specifically WP:ATLANG) recommends the use of language tags across Wikipedia, as does the Irish Manual of Style.
Clearly there are lots of terms from Gaeilge that are used as a normal part of Irish English — such as An Post, Dáil, Taoiseach, Seanad Éireann, An Garda Síochána, gardaí and so on — one of the purposes of language tagging is to provide help to speech synthesisers, for example. Applying language tags telling software "this word is (or was originally) Gaeilge" makes no difference to most users — there's no visible difference in the rendered page — but means that assistive technologies are less likely to screw things up.
It would be useful if editors could consider adding language tags around such terms if they're editing pages about Ireland — it's just a case of using {{
lang|ga|...}}
around the words in question.
Thanks! — OwenBlacker ( talk) 22:14, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
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There is a need for an article on education through the medium of Irish, corresponding to Welsh medium education and Gaelic medium education in Scotland. In my view this should include education in the Irish Republic and in Northern Ireland, and within and outside the Gaeltacht areas. I do not have the background to write this, a knowledge of Irish would probably be useful for examining sources.
I have found relevant coverage in Gaelscoil (where Irish-medium education redirects to), in Gaelcholáiste and in Education in Northern Ireland#Irish language medium education. There are brief mentions in Education in the Republic of Ireland.
What is the difference between Gaelscoil and Gaelcholáiste? Should these articles be merged, possibly into my requested new article? Otherwise please update them to clarify the distinction. I came here from County Donegal, which says "There are 1005 students attending the five Gaelscoileanna and two Gaelcholáistí in the rest of the county." – this needs clarification.
Thanks, Verbcatcher ( talk) 19:23, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
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I've nominated several redirects to Ireland for discussion at RfD today -
You are invited to participate in all of the above discussions. Thryduulf ( talk) 21:08, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Please comment on the move discussion at Talk:Varadkar. Thanks.-- Nevé – selbert 20:02, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
The article United People has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern: lacks notability.
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I'm looking to improve the localisation of Irish imagery on Commons later this year, but I'm not sure of the best approach. I believe it that local identity is typically tied to townlands. Is that right, and true in both the Republic and Northern Ireland? In that case its the townlands that are the ideal end-goal for rural photos; but which intermediate concepts are also useful? Baronies and Civil Parishes? In terms of a potential hierarchy as it applies to the two images to the right:
Northern Ireland is complicated by the modern districts which often just ignore the historic units, which makes it hard to work with them. However, on both WP and Commons, the detailed categorisation is done via counties (eg Category:Towns in County Tyrone).-- Nilf anion ( talk) 09:16, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
Is it true to say that the office of Taoiseach doesn't end until a new Taoiseach is appointed? Alternatively, might an analogous situation of sede vacante be said to exist upon the resignation of a Taoiseach? Is there a Taoiseach between the resignation of one and the appointment of another? If so, what is the Constitutional basis for it? Laurel Lodged ( talk) 08:21, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place about whether a series of templates used to generate references to the work of Leigh Rayment fall within Wikipedia's content guideline to use reliable sources, or alternatively whether they should be deprecated and tagged with {{ Self-published source}} and/or {{ Better source}}.
These templates are used for referencing over 10,000 articles relating to the House of Commons of England, the House of Commons of Ireland, the House of Commons of England, the House of Commons of Great Britain, the House of Commons of the United Kingdom, and the peerages and baronetcies of the islands of Ireland and Great Britain.
Since whatever decision is made will effect so many articles, I am notifying the following WikiProjects of this discussion: WP:WikiProject England, WP:WikiProject Ireland, WikiProject Northern Ireland, WikiProject Scotland, WikiProject United Kingdom, and WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom.
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Category:Derry, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for renaming to
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I see the Irish Folk music project seems to be inactive but I pretty sure that someone here can add entries for the missing list of 2010-2019 and fill in some entries for completely empty 1990-99 and other decades found in the Template:Irish folk music. ww2censor ( talk) 17:41, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
This seems to be an issue that has been bubbling for a while especially in regards to "Category:Terrorist incidents in the United Kingdom in <add year>". When exactly should we use these category? Most recently it seems to be going full-swing at Attack on Cloghoge checkpoint going by its edit history, where DagosNavy alone has removed it four times in the past month despite several editors objecting.
The oft used defense for their removal
WP:LABEL does not fully back the argument for exclusion of the term "terrorist". Indeed the opening sentence of
the full article states There are no forbidden words or expressions on Wikipedia, but certain expressions should be used with caution, because they may introduce bias.
. It is hardly against caution and introducing bias by calling a spade a spade in regards to what is widely regarded by all but IRA supporters/sympathisers as terrorism. The exact LABEL section on that article states Value-laden labels—such as calling an organization a cult, an individual a racist, terrorist, or freedom fighter, or a sexual practice a perversion—may express contentious opinion and are best avoided unless widely used by reliable sources to describe the subject, in which case use in-text attribution. Avoid myth in its informal sense, and establish the scholarly context for any formal use of the term.
- I doubt anyone here believes that the IRA's terrorism campaign is myth and disagrees that there is copious amounts of evidence that recognises the IRA's campaign whether it be against civilians or the state as nothing but terrorism. I have never seen anything scholarly or otherwise that tries to claim that the IRA carried out two camapaigns: one terrorist and one legitimate.
I formally propose that the category be used on all attack (added attack for clarity Mabuska (talk) 17:34, 24 July 2017 (UTC)) articles by paramilitary organisations (republican and loyalist) regardless of whether the target was civilian or not. Mabuska (talk) 12:16, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
(ec) @ Mabuska:, should this not be a formal RfC? (I don't know, I'm just asking the question). Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 12:41, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Support the proposal with Andy Dingley's caveat that it shouldn't be used on all articles, just those involving actual attacks. Obviously common sense should apply, too: the War of Independence flying columns and drug dealing/bank robberies/prison escapes, etc., were not terrorist in nature by any common definition; and a reliable source should describe the attack as terrorist. If an article lacks such a reference, there should be opportunity to source it rather than a category being removed on the grounds its "unsourced". Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 14:36, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
I think Attack on Cloghoge checkpoint should not be labeled as a terrorist incident - myself, DagosNavy and perhaps others object to its inclusion, while others object to its exclusion. It was a military attack on a military target. Minimax Regret ( talk) 19:25, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
@ Minimax Regret: @ DagosNavy:. Minimax it was not military attacking military. It was paramilitary attacking military. Proscribed paramilitary at that. The IRA were an "army" of an unrecognised phantom state so do not qualify as military in any meaning of the word. Also if you are calling military targets legitimate for a proscribed paramilitary organisation (largely made up of people who were citizens of the UK from birth whether they accepted it or not) that embarked on a terrorist campaign that included attacking military targets to influence the public by terror then I have to doubt your impartiality on this issue.
So if military targets are legitmate and attacks on civilians are terrorism then clarify what do the following classify as?
Reason for asking is because the IRA considered these all legitimate despite the fact none are military. The IRA attacked "Crown forces" and "collaborators" and civilians. Mabuska (talk) 19:38, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
You are cordially invited to participated in a discussion of the proposal to merge Rochestown into Douglas, County Cork, following expansion of the latter page. I've only belatedly noticed that the former has fewer than 30 watchers, with only 2 recent editors, so a few more knowledgeable editors would be welcome to help us reach some form of consensus, one way or the other! Wasechun tashunka HOWL TRACK 16:10, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
The related Category:Peerage of Ireland duke stubs has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming . You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page. |
Dawynn ( talk) 02:27, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Following the recent deletion from Commons of several images of murals in Wales (see c:Commons:Deletion requests/Murals in Wales), I intend to nominate most of the images in c:Category:Murals in Ireland and its subcategories for deletion, on the basis that they are copyright violations and that there is no evidence of permission from the mural artists. UK Freedom of panorama does not apply to painted murals, and Ireland Freedom of panorama is assumed to have the same rules.
However, I am aware that murals are of particular cultural significance in Northern Ireland, and I want to give the opportunity for any images that meet the Wikipedia:Non-free content guidelines to be transferred to the English and Irish Wikipedias, for use in articles with {{ Non-free use rationale}}s.
Article that may qualify for non-free images include:
My view is that non-free images are not justified in most articles about individuals and organisations, including Bobby Sands, Red Hand Commando and Provisional Irish Republican Army.
The corresponding articles in the Irish language Wikipedia may use these images, and if possible they should be handled in the same way. Some of these images are used in other Wikipedia language editions, but the English and Irish editions are the most relevant here, and editors of other language editions are likely to follow our lead.
Does anyone challenge my assessment of the copyright status of photographs of murals? If not, then please assist me by selecting non-free images for these and other articles, and transferring them to English and Irish Wikipedia with {{ Non-free use rationale}}s. Verbcatcher ( talk) 03:38, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
I'd love to rerun James Joyce at TFA on the Main Page on his birthday this February, but at the moment there's too much unreferenced text, and 4 dead or dubious links. A little help? - Dank ( push to talk) 20:30, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Dank, have you thought of putting the article up for peer review? This would give you an idea of what needs to be done without throwing up the obstacle of a FAR. Scolaire ( talk) 10:30, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
List of Provisional IRA dead is currently listed for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Provisional IRA dead. Participation welcomed. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 21:47, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Three subcategories of Category:Anglican archbishops by diocese in Ireland have been nominated for renaming. Feedback from this WikiProject's members at the category discussion would be appreciated, in order to help reach a consensus. Thank you, -- Black Falcon ( talk) 19:38, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
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Your opinion would be welcome at Talk:Albert Cashier#Pronoun gender. Mathglot ( talk) 09:55, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.
A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_Ireland
Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.— Rod talk 16:18, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
Please help. Xx236 ( talk) 10:30, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
I've opened a discussion at Talk:Flag of Northern Ireland#Current use of the flag on Wikipedia and I'd be grateful if other editors would voice their views. st 170 e 12:44, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
There is a proposal to edit Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Ireland-related articles to clarify when it is appropriate to add an Irish translation to the first sentence of an article's lead, and when it is not. The Discussion is at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Ireland-related articles#Proposal. Input would be very much appreciated, as editing a Manual of Style without thorough discussion is not the most desirable. Scolaire ( talk) 09:43, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
A requested move at Talk:Offences Against the Person Act 1861 has just been relisted. Please come and add your choice and rationale to the debate. Paine Ellsworth put'r there 19:12, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
This IP is reverting to defend a number of translations to Irish added to the lead sentence of subjects where this is not needed per WP:IMOS - subjects including Irish art, Tara Brooch, and so on, all unlikely to be referred to using the Irish form in English speech. Johnbod ( talk) 13:16, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
NB: The 80.111.x.x IP has been blocked as a sock of Apollo the Logician. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 21:29, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
The Twelve Apostles of Ireland Challenge is an edition competition seeking to create and improve articles on the Twelve Apostles of Ireland. Anyone in any language can subscribe and collaborate on building or translating articles relating to the Twelve Apostles. Medals and real icons will be rewarded to the winners. To participate, one just needs to subscribe here and start collaborating. Dia Duit! Leefeni de Karik ( talk) 20:56, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Category:Fictional American people of Irish descent, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion, along with 7 similar categories.. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 15:45, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
The Thirty-sixth Amendment of the Constitution Bill 2018 (Ireland) currently has fewer than 30 page watchers and needs more eyes on it at the moment. In particular, a discussion has commenced on the criteria for inclusion in the "Campaigns" section of the article, and wider input would be welcome. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:08, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Category:Loughs of the Republic of Ireland, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for renaming to "Lakes of the Republic of Ireland". A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you.. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 01:41, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Please can you help fix a category navigation problem?
I have devised a way of making it easier to navigate between Irish by-county categories: Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland/CatNavProposal
However, before rolling it out across ~2,500 category pages, I need to know:
See Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland/CatNavProposal for an explanation of the problem and my proposed solution, and please leave your feedback at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ireland/CatNavProposal.
Your input would be very helpful. I think it will take about twenty minutes to assess the proposal. Thanks. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 18:14, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
This proposal has now moved on to a trial implementation. See WT:IECATNAVP#Trial. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 02:52, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
This is unsourced and unhistorical. How may it be removed? Fergananim ( talk) 15:46, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Category:16th-century British medical doctors, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. Note that the discussion relates to the geographical, political and chronological scope of the term "British" which is why Ireland falls into its scope. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 14:15, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Category:Loughs of Northern Ireland, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion along with its 6 sub-categories. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you.. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 08:13, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
If anyone's interested, I managed to make Primitive Irish a featured article in Portuguese, it took me a lot of research and the results are good, I'm sure we could use it to improve the tiny respective article here in English. I'll start. Leefeni de Karik ( talk) 02:08, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
National Party (Ireland) includes this in the lead but does not elaborate on it anywhere in its body. It's attributed to a broken link that appears to be a first-party source, but I suspect they are only using it as a clumsy euphemism for Irish reunification.
Our Irish republicanism article appears to be mostly historical, and discusses a period when "Republicanism" and "Home Rule" were opposing factions of the Irish independence movement; but in a contemporary southern context I'm fairly certain no one is seriously arguing for a return to monarchy, so it could only make sense if it means "Northern Ireland should be incorporated into the Republic".
I know people in Ireland are largely aware of "Republican" and "pro-reunification" being basically coterminous, but it seems like the kind of confusing term we should avoid when even the article it links to is mostly about pre-independence republicanism. (It's exceptionally misleading when describing certain "Irish Alt-Right" groups that seem to be in favour of a unified Ireland under a fascist or theocratic dictatorship, which would probably be better described as anti-republican.)
Thoughts?
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 09:22, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
There is a discussion at The Troubles about the suitability of an image in the infobox. Input from interested editors would be welcome. Scolaire ( talk) 18:22, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
I just noticed that oireachtas.ie has a header that mentions switching over to a new site on 14 May 2018. This might break external links to that site, so they might need updating. Autarch ( talk) 18:22, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Hello all - as a Carlovian I'm not the most objective person to weigh in on this, but given it is an Irish topic I thought I would direct people to the nomination for deletion of the article about Darrers. You might all agree with the nomination of course! Smirkybec ( talk) 11:20, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.
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A discussion is taking place about the inclusion of disappeared people who are not part of the "Disappeared" or the articles scope. More input would be appreciated. Mabuska (talk) 11:42, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
@ The C of E: and @ Steven a91: have removed the word "national" from the Ireland national rugby union team article without any discussion or consensus. No explanation given. I am pretty sure no Irish Wikipedia editor would be in favour of this move. Djln Djln ( talk) 14:09, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
Folks, I would like to hear a few ideas upon the form of names used in many Irish biographical articles. This one is an example. It seems very strange to refer to people like him by the English form of their names, especially in this case when people like him barely spoke English and were deeply opposed to all things English. I am not asking for the article to be rewritten as Gaeilge, but to respect such aspects of their lives and insist upon Aodh Ruadh Ó Domhnaill over Hugh Roe O'Donnell. I might add this is also good scholarly practise here in Ireland to use these forms for such people, because of the deeply Gaelic context of their lives, so there are a number of good bases on which to do this. Fergananim ( talk) 16:35, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Want to raise info that the GS has changed its organizational structure in 2018.
https://www.garda.ie/en/About-Us/Organisational-structure/Organisation-Structure-2018.pdf
The link is there for your information. Ominae ( talk) 13:49, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
As far as I am able to discover, this is a name for Armagh. It's given in this (reliable, pay-walled) source as the birth-place of David Cunningham (musician), so I put Armagh in the page. An IP has objected. This is a WP:BLP, so it's important not to be wrong. Is there any room for error, any other Ard Mhacha? Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 10:28, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
There is an RfC underway here on the inclusion of mention of Joan Freeman's family. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 22:41, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
I'm confused by this edit. Would someone familiar with Irish government please take a look? Rivertorch FIRE WATER 04:16, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
Can someone please create the article The Republic of Ireland and the Commonwealth of Nations to outline the historical relationship between the Irish Free State, the Republic of Ireland, and the Commonwealth of Nations, especially since 1922? - ( 101.98.104.241 ( talk) 12:25, 8 August 2018 (UTC))
There's a request for comments on whether the motto of the Red Hand Commando, Lámh Dearg Abú, should be called an "Irish language" motto, or an "Ulster Gaelic" motto. Any input would be welcomed. ~ Asarlaí 18:10, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Now that the order has been signed for the Irish presidential election, 2018, the pages of candidates/those seeking nominations to stand for election could do with more watchers:
I'd have NPOV and possibly COI concerns about some of these articles. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 08:30, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Today I saw this edit and opened this discussion. What do you think? -- AFBorchert ( talk) 22:51, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
There is a request at Talk:Noel Lemass Jnr to move the article to Noel Lemass. -- Scolaire ( talk) 11:20, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
I've started a proposed new naming conventions for articles on railway stations in Ireland at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Irish stations). It's modeled after the other former conventions already established for Canada ( WP:CANSTATION, Poland ( WP:PLSTATION), the UK ( WP:UKSTATION), and the U.S. ( WP:USSTATION). It was written to follow the unwritten practice already in place as closely as possible. Comments and suggestions are welcome at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Irish stations) and Village pump.-- Cúchullain t/ c 19:36, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Mass_renaming_of_election_articles,_bypassing_WP:Requested_moves.
I just used WP:AWB to count the Irish articles which are likely to be renamed: I count 860 of them under Category:Elections in Ireland.
After 17 editors participated in a poorly-notified RFC, the intention is to move them without further discussion, and without notification. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 10:56, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
An RfC on moving the year from the end to the start of article titles (e.g. South African general election, 2019 to 2019 South African general election) has been reopened for further comment, including on whether a bot could be used move the articles if it closed in favour of the change: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (government and legislation)#Proposed change to election/referendum naming format. Cheers, Number 5 7 15:37, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
There's an RfC on adopting the proposed guideline for transport stations, Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Irish stations), here. Interested editors are asked to weigh in.-- Cúchullain t/ c 13:41, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
There is a fairly regular meetup in Cork, in collaboration with Dublin2019. ☕ Antiqueight chatter 11:42, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Editors with an interest/knowledge of the Tuam Mother and Baby Home are requested to review recent changes and contribute opinions to Talk:Bon_Secours_Mother_and_Baby_Home#Trimming_in_October_2018 if they so wish. Regards, Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 14:13, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi members of WP:Ireland! I'm just over from WP:CRIN and looking for volunteers. I'm currently expanding the coverage of Irish cricket, from players, to teams, to grounds. I'm wondering if anyone who is handy with a camera might be able to take some pictures of these cricket grounds, all major venues currently missing images. Most are located in or around Belfast/Dublin. I would do it myself, but I'm on the south-coast of England! Any photos would be much appreciated by all at WP:CRIN. Thanks in advance for any help. StickyWicket ( talk) 17:55, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Is Moycullen a hamlet or a large parish? See talk page. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 11:39, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
Whilst the article can easily accommodate both entities as it has been done elsewhere for other places that share a parish and village (or whatever) name, however why not simply create a civil parish article for Moycullen instead? It is a geopolitical subdivision so is notable enough for an article. Simples. It also means you can say you created an article Laurel. Whoop, whoop! Mabuska (talk) 22:45, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Laurels statement on townlands and settlements is inherently wrong as they exist in one or more townlands meaning they technically are part of the settlement. Mabuska (talk) 16:58, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. -- Izno Repeat ( talk) 21:40, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
I'm a bit irritated by the inconsistency in how Northern Irish people are categorized on Wikipedia. Looking at Category:DJs by nationality, all of the DJs by nationality are categorized by the adjective form (e.g. "American DJs", "Russian DJs", "British DJs", even " Welsh DJs" and " Scottish DJs") but not Northern Irish DJs who are categorized as " DJs from Northern Ireland". I don't like this at all! I once started a CfD to change the DJs category but it was opposed on the basis that all the other Northern Irish people categories use the "xxx from Northern Ireland" form. So I'm proposing to change it on a wider scale, changing all category instances of "xxx from Northern Ireland" to "Northern Irish xxx" for consistency with the other similar categories of different countries. Flooded with them hundreds 13:47, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
The article Bon Secours Mother and Baby Home would benefit from some photographs before the planned excavations begin. Unfortunately the images in the Technical Report are (evidently) used by permission and so are not public domain. If anyone is passing through Tuam or lives near the site it would be great to get some images uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. AugusteBlanqui ( talk) 13:34, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
I've just come across an error on the Tweed page and then found more and worse on Donegal tweed. Please see the discussion page of the latter. Does someone here feel up to it? -- Madame ( talk) 14:09, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
See Talk:Foreign relations of the Republic of Ireland#Requested_move_18_November_2018. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 07:57, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
See: Talk:National Museum of Ireland – Archaeology. According to their website "The Life and Death in the Roman World exhibition has been temporarily removed to facilitate the exhibition Clontarf 1014: Brian Boru and the Battle for Dublin". Is that still open? It appears in the "current" exhibition tab, as does "Rites of Passage at Tara" - both were supposed to be temporary. Does anyone know what the current displays are? Johnbod ( talk) 03:39, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Category:Foreign relations of the Republic of Ireland, which is within the scope of this wikiproject, has been nominated for renaming to Category:Foreign relations of Ireland. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you.. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 00:42, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Just came across this copyright notice on the Oireachtas website. It seems to be basically saying "feel free to use the images herein, just attribute, and we retain copyright" - I'm not sure if that's entirely compatible with CC-by-SA, but it would seem to be ok to reuse their TD and Senator images where we're missing them. (Apologies if everyone knew this and was doing it already!) Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 23:47, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Why is it that Template:County Antrim says "Places in Country Antrim", Template:County Carlow says "Places in Country Carlow", and Template:County Cork says "Places in Country Cork", but Template:County Dublin says "Divisions of the former county of Dublin"? And why does Template:County Dublin not include places such as Tallaght, Templeogue, Ballsbridge, Clontarf, Raheny and so on, like the other county templates? Scolaire ( talk) 20:34, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
@
Spleodrach,
Finnegas, and
Scolaire: I am coming to the discussion a bit late, but just wanted to note that it is not entirely true to say, as Spleodrach did, that Dublin is a former county
.
It was indeed abolished in 1992 as a local govt area, but it remains in use for other state-derived purposes which include vehicle registration and the land registry. There may be more official uses which I am unaware of, or maybe not. But there are certainly many informal uses.
I think that current structure of the Template:County Dublin works OK, but I just wanted to stress that the legal situation isn't as clearcut as some assume.
Further muddiness is illustrated by Scolaire's initial example of Template:County Antrim. All 6 counties in Norniron were abolished for local govt purposes by the Local Government Act (Northern Ireland) 1972 and the Local Government (Boundaries) Act (Northern Ireland) 1971. However, like County Dublin, they retain some uses, including Lieutenancy areas and vehicle registration.
My own experience of Norniron is that that the counties are still used as the primary informal geographical divisions. I have never had anyone tell me that they are from Newry and Mourne or Newry, Mourne and Down. People will identify location by county or by town/village, as far as I can see neither the 1972–2015 districts nor the post-2015 districts have supplanted the counties as commonly-used geographical divisions.
Obviously my anecdotal observations are in no way a reliable source, but checking confirms my experience. See e.g. this Gnews search for "County Tyrone". The news media are still using the counties.
And then there are Rural districts. For local govt purposes, they were abolished over 90 years ago, by the Local Government Act 1925. However, they continue to be used for statistical purposes and for defining constituencies: see e.g. the Electoral (Amendment) (Dáil Constituencies) Act 2017. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 03:28, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
I fixed link to the Ryan Commission used as a reference in St. Conleths Reformatory School to use the Wayback machine. Seems the domain may have expired - is there any organised effort to update the links to this site in this manner or are the updates ad hoc? Autarch ( talk) 05:37, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
I'm looking for somebody with the expertise to fix a table at Leader of Sinn Féin#Vice Presidents. The details are at Talk:Leader of Sinn Féin#Vice Presidents. Thanks in advance. Scolaire ( talk) 14:22, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Category:17th century in Northern Ireland, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion, along with several other similar categories.. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 22:14, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi there is a deletion discussion underway ( Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nancy O'Rahilly) where not many people have taken part. It might be helpful if members of WikiProject Ireland could express a view on whether or not the subject of the article is notable. Mccapra ( talk) 12:12, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
At Talk:Great Famine (Ireland)#DS notice there was a request regarding why that article was subject to the discretionary sanctions authorised for The Troubles which has lead to me discovering that it is very unclear whether the scope of that authorisation includes "Irish nationalism" (the aspect that allows it on the Great Famine article) and "British nationalism in relation to Ireland" or not. If you have opinions about whether the Great Famine specifically and/or Irish nationalism in general and/or British nationalism in relation to Ireland (independent from The Troubles) should be subject to discretionary sanctions or not, please comment here or at Talk:Great Famine (Ireland)#DS notice. Please do invite comments from other relevant people/places (but to respond in one of those two places only), but this is just an informal exploration of views from those working in the topic area prior to a formal request for clarification/amendment so it's not vital at this stage that everybody is heard (that opportunity will come at the ARCA). Thryduulf ( talk) 01:49, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
I have now initiated the clarification request: Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Clarification request: The Troubles and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the Wikipedia:Arbitration guide may be of use. Thryduulf ( talk) 17:20, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
I may have a biased point of view but I get the feeling tram stops (and commuter routes) are beginning to dominate Irish Railway Articles at the expense of historic stations. Most editing is by anon IP Addresses. Perhaps this has occurred at Harcourt Street Station where an IP user seems to be attempting to dominate what was an historic railway station with a nondescript tram stop. To some event when Cuchullain moved the article from Harcourt Street Railway station it might be argued the article got re-purposed to an opportunity to show pictures of trams. Anyway I have just done some reverting but quite frankly I'm not going to continue much longer with the number of unsourced IP edits what are occurring with Irish Railway articles at present. You can probably tell I am not happy. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 18:27, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:Municipal district (Ireland)#Requested move 9 February 2019, regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, Warm Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 15:31, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
I recently nominated Belfast East (Dáil constituency) and four related pages for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belfast East (Dáil constituency), but they need more discussion there on the best way to proceed. — Iveagh Gardens ( talk) 13:29, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I have placed a request to move the Mount Errigal page to Errigal. Discussion and opinions are invited, Warm regards, Padraig1968 ( talk) 09:43, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Both @ Jnestorius: and I have set up pages for the upcoming divorce referendum, which we have agreed to merge: Thirty-fifth Amendment of the Constitution (Divorce) Bill 2016 and Thirty-fifth Amendment of the Constitution Bill 2016. I'd welcome the views of others on what should be kept between the two pages. See Talk:Thirty-fifth Amendment of the Constitution (Divorce) Bill 2016#Merge for the discussion thus far. — Iveagh Gardens ( talk) 14:49, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
Could I invite some contributions to this question please? It's about naming conventions for Irish baronies and one in particular. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 21:07, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
Please comment at the RfC at Talk:United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland#Demonym on whether the demonym Briton is appropriate for people from Ireland before 1922. DrKay ( talk) 17:14, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
There is a discussion here, Talk:Donegal#Proposed name change of this page to Donegal (town), which might be of interest to this project's members. Onel5969 TT me 16:14, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
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There's a move discussion at Talk:Longford (disambiguation)#Requested move 1 April 2019 that may be of interest here. Declangi ( talk) 01:20, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
A discussion has been initiated for the Great Famine article, to consider "Great Irish Famine," "Irish Potato Famine," etc. Not many Project editors have commented yet, but I think it is important to contribute to an appropriate naming maintenance. SeoR ( talk) 08:17, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
I happen to my sins for an independent matter to be watchlisting WP:ANI this morning for an unrelated matter and observe concerns relating to Ireland are in discussion at WP:ANI#Accusation of undisclosed WP:PAID editing / large scale reversion of edits relating to articles connected to Ireland which apparently has also made the Irish media. Not sure what to make of it all. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 10:16, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
A requested move discussion has been initiated for The Troubles to be moved to Northern Ireland conflict. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. -- Scolaire ( talk) 15:12, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
There is an RfC on whether all Wikipedia categories should use the spelling "organization" (regardless of the respective country) taking place here. Number 5 7 19:24, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Dublin, a page which falls within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Dublin and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Dublin during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 15:41, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Ireland, which falls within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Ireland and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Ireland during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 19:38, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
I posted this on Talk:Sport in Ireland in January this year but no one seems to have seen the post. And on my discussion page in March, I asked where on wikipedia this question should be asked to have the best chance of getting help.
I am already aware of field hockey, rugby union, rugby league, cricket, quidditch and basketball. Basketball creates even more confusion for me, because the flag of the Republic of Ireland is used but the players come from all over the island. So I guess there are more All-Ireland national teams that use Republic of Ireland flag?
I have introduced in Swedish wikipeida, that if we use the national field hockey team template, {{hlhf|IRE}} it will automatically be the right flag, just like in English wikipedia ( Ireland). I have done the same for all our national team templates, the template for football provides football flags (New Caledonia, Ireland (1882–1950), Martinique and more), as an example.
So now I need help knowing which sports have all-Ireland teams. Thanks. DenSportgladeSkåningen ( talk) 16:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Content moved to Talk:The Irish Times#The Arnotts. Editors are invited to comment there. Scolaire ( talk) 10:10, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Can anyone help source information on this person? It all seems to come from a single source, which I cannot otherwise verify, and frankly I distrust the source concerned as it has previous form. For the moment the only change will be correcting the surname form in the DEFAULTSORT. Fergananim ( talk) 10:56, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
A difficultly has arisen at Ballymote#Hapsburg vs Habsburg over which name to use and what to name it. My edit to use Irish English on the article has been reverted. I will support the views of consensus. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 22:04, 8 May 2019 (UTC) Sorted as Habsburg. Thanks. Done
I was just hoping to get some second opinions from the WP Ireland wiki contributors regarding whats been going on in the finance/economics topics, as various articles are within the projects scope. An ANI was opened by a different editor last month and it was messy. It was pointless really and only going to play out one way given there's no evidence. That ended up being a red herring for the real issue. An underlying problem regarding WP:Advocacy in this topic area. I had left the ANI a week before it closed to gather evidence, which was a time consuming and nightmare-ish process. I pulled up examples/evidence of various WP polices being breached like WP:Sockpuppets, WP:NPOV, WP: Bias in Sourcing etc. You guys are probably aware of the issues and controversy's around the Irish corporate tax system. There's no point defending the indefensible, but when looking through this carefully it seemed over the top. Maybe I’m imagining this. I'd started to prepare some evidence in My Sandbox (for now) with the hopes some experienced editors would look over this and tell me either way. I realise the correct process for policy breaches are various dispute processes, but just looking for 2nd opinions at the moment. Sorry about the length. I’d love to say that's it, but it's just scratching the surface. Renmap0o talk 05:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
@ Renmap0o: As far as I can read this serious accusations have been made or implied on this talk page regarding Britishfinance (who seems to have suspended editing) and an AfD. My concern is I can find no such AfD. I assume you are talking a calling raised by Jimg at Talk:Leprechaun economics#Proposed deletion of article which seems an unusual (and non-binding) course of action given WP:PRODNOM and WP:STFW give better direction. In any event this that is not an AfD. Please give a definitive and unambiguous link to the AfD you are referring to above. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 12:07, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Statement re above from Britishfinance
Only just seeing the above now (from Bastun's ping to me):
"Britishfinance", most likely a political organisation, attempting to manipulate the information by targeting a certain country and presenting one sided information, and with a link to a newspaper article where IDA Ireland called me a "paid agent".
controversial editor, which was also ignored [4]
build a case of evidenceagainst me. [5] [6]
Two other points:
Renmap0o uses a line used by another IDA SOCK, that mention of Ireland is disproportionate in general WP tax articles (e.g. Tax haven). The issue is that Ireland is either the #1, or close to #1, in almost all notable tax haven categories that the most notable tax academics cover (and who are the basis for the overhaul of all WP tax articles, not tax NGOs as Renmap0o alledges above). Ireland has featured as a top 10 tax haven on every academic list since the first lists in 1994 (the IDA despise tax academics, and someone had gone to great lengths to take reference of them out of WP tax haven articles); Ireland is the largest tax haven by scale, it created the largest BEPS tool in history (Double Irish), which led to the largest corporate tax fine in history (Apple's 13bn), it is the largest source of tax inversions, holds the record for the largest tax inversion in history (Medtronic), largest failed tax inversion (Pfizer Allergan); it is only second to Cayman as a shadow banking centre, is the 3rd largest Conduit OFC, and has overtaken Luxembourg and Cayman for SPVs. I could go on and on. Search for "Ireland" in the tax haven article and it appears in almost every notable category.
To the Irish WP community, which Renmap0o is trying to recruit to their agenda, the material that I have added to Irish tax-related articles comes from mostly academic sources or tax authors notable enough to have their own WP articles (and/or also their books). The facts used are a small summary of what is known about Ireland's tax system or the 1,000-page reports on it produced by tax experts in Washington, London (who are trying to copy Ireland completely), and Brussels. Ireland is not a tax haven because of shady/unknown dealings, Ireland is a tax haven because the US explicitly wants it as a tax haven. With a few exceptions, most of the tax material produced by NGOs is not fit for an Encylopedia; however, it is also very important to temper the IDA Ireland misuse of OECD sources (the IDA always quote that the OECD does not consider Ireland a tax haven, but forget to mention that the OECD only consider Trinidad & Tobago as a tax haven; and note, the March 2018 version of WP Tax Haven article had a long section implying that the definition of a tax haven was from the OECD?!). While technical, and academic, it is an interesting area, and should also be for Irish readers. There is a lot happening now with how the US is changing a 40-year stance on its tax policy, and that will affect Ireland. I hope to continue chronicling it for WP.
I advise you to examine the totality of new user (?) Renmap0o's few edits before engaging, and I would appreciate any admin taking some action. Britishfinance ( talk) 12:12, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Comment
There may indeed be enough to consider WP:ANI but I don't have bandwidth currently to make that consideration and it may be an energy waste. In general I don't think I see anything that can't be handled at article level within the normal scope of article development and especially as this approach has seemingly been successful at Ireland as a Tax Haven and Gemma O'Doherty. Again something like Modified gross national income might be better under a name that associated the article to Ireland (It's probably gone to far to be made generic), but again that can be discussed at article level. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 13:28, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
I have nominated this article for deletion, the discussion can be found at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South Derry Independent Republican Unit. Mountain Battles ( talk) 16:32, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Over the last month, Fergananim has moved a ton of articles on Irish historical figures to what he calls the "correct form of name". Thus Rory O'Moore was moved to Ruairí Ó Mórdha, despite the English form being used virtually exclusively in history books. Worse, when he sees a need for disambiguation, he makes up a crazy long name, so Rory O'More becomes Ruairí Óg mac Ruairí Caoch Ó Mórdha. Can somebody with some expertise (I regognised those two names but not the others) check the articles and see if, as I suspect, they've all been wrongly moved? Scolaire ( talk) 09:52, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Gaelic games is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Gaelic games until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America 1000 01:06, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Shane O'Neill (son of Conn) (the Shane O'Neill) to be moved to Shane O'Neill, with the latter moving to Shane O'Neill (disambiguation). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion at Talk:Shane O'Neill (son of Conn)#Requested move 28 May 2019. -- Scolaire ( talk) 16:16, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
The above move request having failed, I am proposing to move the article to Shane O'Neill (Irish chieftain). Again, comments or alternative proposals would be welcome. The discussion is at Talk:Shane O'Neill (son of Conn)#Informal move proposal 31 May 2019. -- Scolaire ( talk) 11:56, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
We tend to associate civil rights activist and human rights activist with modern times, but while looking at this article it struck me that such terms do apply to many such past people. Yet the terms, or at least chronologically appropriate ones, are not present for vast swathes of such Irish people. So, I am going to add these categories to this article, but if unsuitable or if they can be replaced by more appropriate ones, please edit accordingly. However I would argue that basic civil and human rights are the same, then and now. Fergananim ( talk) 13:12, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether Geraldine Weir-Rogers v. Sf Trust Ltd is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Geraldine Weir-Rogers v. Sf Trust Ltd until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. AugusteBlanqui ( talk) 21:35, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Mr Cooney went to some political meetings and briefly to jail. He became a doctor but is not notable for that. The source links are dead. Thousands of other people did the same as him and are not on wikipedia. 78.19.200.247 ( talk) 09:56, 17 July 2019 (UTC)