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There is widespread agreement among editors that the description of the topic of an article do not require citations, because one would get that from [reading][the book], [watching][the film], [listening][to the song], etc.
So, is it the same for a game? Do we need a reference to describe the gameplay of, say, Star Raiders, when you can simply play the game and see for yourself?
Maury Markowitz ( talk) 16:41, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged". What this means in practical terms is that the decision not to use sourcing is an assumption that none of the text is likely to be challenged. For plot that's perhaps more often true than not, but the author must be aware that if any good faith challenge should be made to the text then it can be removed at any time. Secondly, video game manuals are ideal to cite for gameplay details and the game itself can be used as a source for plot details much of the time using the {{ Cite video game}} template. I'm completely in agreement with Sergecross73's comment above. Sources may or may not be required in the plot section, but it's generally good form to provide sources for as much as possible. - Thibbs ( talk) 12:53, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
Of course, one can easily verify the gameplay elements by playing the game as well - that's the definition after all. But as is always the case, basically, maximal citations. Maury Markowitz ( talk) 13:50, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
So as everyone here knows 1UP.com is notoriously link rotting and has a robots.txt on Archive.org. I believe the link rot is slowly increasing all around their website. So, I suggest that if anyone sees a live link of the website, immediately archive it with WebCite or the newly unblacklisted Archive.is. Don't want these pages to be gone forever. GamerPro64 16:23, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
On the Haunting Ground article, the infobox lists the series as "Clock Tower", however that is not typed anywhere in the source. The game is highly related to the Clock Tower series but isn't officially a Clock Tower game. I think it has something to do with the programming of the template at the bottom of the page, but I don't know how to change it so it doesn't auto-populate the infobox. Can anyone help me? Thanks TarkusAB 00:44, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
Looking for more input on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources#LGBTQ Video Game Archive. -- ferret ( talk) 15:26, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
It has almost been a month since I posted my discussion, which concerned Rockstar Japan's existence, and there really hasn't been any progress in the case. My attempts to contact either of the IGN editors involved in it, or even Rockstar themselves on the case, failed. Therefore, I wanted to conclude this: Should it be deleted or not? If yes, redirected or not? And I would appreciate if, in case we go for deletion, someone can help me getting rid of the article from all international Wikipedias, and the image off Wikimedia Commons. Thanks! Lordtobi ( ✉) 16:49, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
So, Soul Hackers is a game that originally came out in Japan in 1997 for the Sega Saturn, and wasn't released in English until 2013 when a 3DS port was published. The article used to be illustrated with the cover art and a screenshot from the English 3DS version, until today when George Ho added the cover art and a screenshot from the Japanese Saturn version, moving the English 3DS images down to the release/localization section. What I'm wondering is:
I would think that the English cover art would be used in most cases, since it's used for identification purposes and English-speakers likely would be more familiar with the English release, unless the original cover is really famous. That recognizability factor also applies to screenshots, I believe, with the added benefit that there is not any Japanese text in the English screenshot, so the reader is more likely to fully understand everything on it. For instance, I can read "Nemissa" in the English screenshot and deduce that the boxes represent characters in the player's party, while someone who does not read Japanese would not have any idea what "ネミッサ" means. As for multiple sets of screenshots/covers: originally, the English cover was used for identification, and the screenshot for demonstration of the gameplay, but if we have two sets of images, that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.-- IDV talk 11:43, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
What about
Tales of Hearts? The original Wii NDS release was limited to only Japan. The PS3 Vita re-release was given to overseas territories six years later.
George Ho (
talk) 23:12, 25 October 2016 (UTC) (Amended) --
George Ho (
talk) 00:27, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
As the person who uploaded another version, I don't mind the removal of the ESRB rating. However, I am against removing the console banner if no sources prove that the official banner-less artwork exists. I found a line from
MOS:IMAGE#Editing images: "Images should not be changed in ways that materially mislead the viewer.
" However, would readers recognize the 3DS artwork without image caption and the banner?
George Ho (
talk) 02:24, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
I have been convenience that there are certain game developer region that have in influence the video game industry. I would like to purpose that people would help in make a article on game developer regions that are influential in the median. Some region I can name off the top of my head are Los Angeles, Seattle, Boston, Maryland, etc. I want a approval to do this and some editors to help me cited and critique the articles. I'm just re-posting this idea, because someone link me to here to submit my idea. If any one can response I can appreciate it. Picaxe01 ( talk) 12:07, 13 November 2016
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This one snuck up on me. Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines is Today's Featured Article on the main page. On November 25th, Killer Instinct Gold will be that days TFA. Congrats to the editors for their accomplishments. GamerPro64 00:48, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
There's a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources#LGBTQ Video Game Archive about an academic source for LGBTQueer characters in video games. Opinions are welcome regarding their reliability as a source for video game articles. Diego ( talk) 16:32, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi everyone,
The latest StoryBundle features video games once more. A lot is about the PICO 8 "fantasy console", but there is also the book about the making of FTL: Faster Than Light and a book about fighting game fundamentals. If someone is interested, drop me a line and I can send a book. Or all, if you like, they're not DRM protected. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 09:02, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
I've been asked about this, and it's one of those things where I've been doing it so long, I can't remember if/where it's stated in the guidelines, but my understanding is that:
Is this correct? Is it documented anywhere, and if it isn't, should it be? Let me know. Sergecross73 msg me 22:26, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
I'd like to speed things up here. Anyone care to exchange a GA review from me for them reviewing either Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light or Genealogy of the Holy War? Or even two for two? -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 22:53, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
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Salavat ( talk) 13:37, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
This might be a useful article to someone in this project - Witnessing the birth of a sport. It could help establish notability, which seems to be quite an issue for this topic. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 15:29, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Recently, I nominated Luke fon Fabre to GA but fellow user User talk:czar insists it should be merged. Check the bottom of Talk:Luke fon Fabre#Notability for discussion. Regards. Tintor2 ( talk) 12:51, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Heyo. Can I get some fresh eyes on Crispy Gamer? I'm planning on at least taking this to GAN but due to its complex but short history and lack of any real sources I want to know if this could actually stand a chance. Cheers. GamerPro64 02:12, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
The website sought not to seek video game advertising. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 02:36, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
I've taken the article to GAN now. Would never expect it to be anywhere higher than that so let's see what happens. GamerPro64 16:59, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Looks like an article on Compulsion Games (creator of Contrast/We Happy Few) was created, but it's not NPOV. Would someone care to take a stab? -- Mr. Vernon ( talk) 21:11, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Recently I posted some concerns on the List of zombie video games talk page. I'm interested in cleaning up that list, any comments would be appreciated. Famous Hobo ( talk) 00:36, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
An anon keeps removing mention of Ultima 3 in Tactical role-playing game because he thinks it is 'irrelevant'. I've got sources that agree it is important or relevant to the genre, and I think it should be discussed in the article. Help please. SharkD Talk 18:59, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
I have nominated Rise and Fall: Civilizations at War for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. GamerPro64 04:11, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
Planet Coaster had been released about a week ago. The last time the page was assessed, it was a "Start" article. Over the year, I gradually included information and analysis regarding the game. What rating should this page have now? Yoshiman6464 ( talk) 06:27, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
I've just found this orphan article while doing an AWB run. I know nothing about it, I was going to prod it, but wondered if someone fancied the challenge of breathing a bit of life into it. - X201 ( talk) 10:06, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
Here's another Pop! The Balloon Dog Puzzle Game - X201 ( talk) 10:44, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
The Nintendo Switch is notable for being a hybrid console. However, handheld consoles like the Genesis Nomad and the PSP (PSP-2000/3000) has a native TV output. Are they also considered hybrid consoles? – // Hounder4 // 16:24, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
I've never dealt with this issue before, and I didn't see anything in MOS:VG about it, so I ask: should we add reviews of early access games? For example, RPS posted early impressions of Empyrion - Galactic Survival. I'm not sure whether it's appropriate to cite this as a review, though I've used it to describe the gameplay. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 03:07, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
Can someone help out with a dispute at Template:Final Fantasy series? HÊÚL. is insisting that the "main series" row, which contains Final Fantasies 1-15, should also have Final Fantasy Type-0, because "The HD version of Type-0 had a worldwide release and is multi-platform (Playstation 4, Xbox One and Windows). It has companion games too (Agito and Online). Every game on Fabula Nova Crystallis subseries is part of the main series.". Frankly, I would disagree that any "subseries" belongs on the main line, which is currently reserved for just the main, numbered games out of the ~100 Final Fantasy games, but I also don't want to get into an edit war about it, so if anyone else has an opinion that would be helpful. -- Pres N 21:35, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
That is the question. Is it all right or even recommended to mention (with reliable sources of course) that a video game (
such as this) has been released in let us say 1999 and eventually on a website—specifically Steam or GOG.com—in let us say 2013? (Sorry if my language is verbose).
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 19:36, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Will {{
Current event}}
be put on
The Game Awards 2016 while the awards show is going on? —
Gestrid (
talk) 19:56, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
We had a thread a bit ago about our "popular pages" report being down, so a public service announcement that the service is up for discussion as a community upkeep proposal: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Categories/WikiProjects#Fix_and_improve_Mr.Z-bot.27s_popular_pages_report czar 01:08, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Is wikidata at a good enough development stage to be used to generate list articles from it yet? We have genre lists with game title, developer, publisher, release date, etc. fields that so far cannot be replaced with category intersections. I wonder if wikidata may be able to fill that role now? SharkD Talk 22:01, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
How does Wikidata handle citations? Can one be added to each datum? Will citations screw up the search routines? SharkD Talk 18:38, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Out of curiosity, do we have a guideline about whether or not to put an ESRB or other type of rating in video game articles? — Gestrid ( talk) 21:30, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
The redirect Team Fortress 3, which currently points to Overwatch, has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 4#Team Fortress 3. The discussion would benefit from input from those with knowledge of the Team Fortress and Overwatch games (and any related articles). Please leave your comments as part of the linked discussion, any left here are unlikely to be seen. Thanks. Thryduulf ( talk) 10:00, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
I have nominated ToeJam & Earl for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. JAG UAR 12:10, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
A user just made 19 Clash of Clans troops articles Category:Clash_of_Clans_troops. Not sure if they should all be deleted, or merged into a List, but that seems like a lot of articles. -- Odie5533 ( talk) 22:58, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Oh you guys mean my articles should be deleted as it does't cite secondary sources but what about articles like Gopal Bansa which does't cite any sources neither primary nor secondary?→ SeniorStar ( talk) 00:53, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
I recently noticed Thr article Spawn (handheld game) and believe that it should be moved to Spawn (1999 video game). If someone agrees with this can these please move it since I can't.-- 76.69.215.204 ( talk) 17:59, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
I'm seeing a lot of results for this game in the WP:VG/S search but the vast majority are for one of two works: Wargamer and RPS. Is there notability here? From what I saw, there's also a number of articles for Decisive Campaigns, so it looks like there's a series there. -- Izno ( talk) 20:44, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
I was wondering if someone could find and add to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Assessment some very short examples of Start, C, and B class articles. I noticed the example for Start is unusually lengthy, and I think a short example would be best to make clear the most salient aspects of the different classes. -- Odie5533 ( talk) 01:13, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=BVE_Trainsim
Hopefully this is ending up in the right place......
First off, a disclaimer- I'm the primary developer for the currently 'active' fork of openBVE http://openbve-project.net
At present, I've made a few small cleanups to the article, and removed a pile of junk from the end (openBVE 'Update 4' as far as anyone in the community is aware is a very bad case of vapourware, and the deleted stuff was nowhere close to guidelines....)
What I need now is advice on exactly where to go from here. The talk page is rather a mess, was last used in 2010, and refers to '00s of deleted revisions.
Some thoughts:
Overall, I can provide a perspective of someone who has been with the BVE/ openBVE community since it's inception, but exactly how much of this translates into an encyclopaedia I don't know.....
Advice welcome! Leezer3 ( talk) 14:33, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
That's an issue I'm not sure how to handle. Train-sims are a niche topic to start with, and as neither BVE or openBVE have been commercialised, the sort of sources you seem to want in that front (e.g. large editorially independent publications) simply don't exist :)
Clearly though, the article doesn't belong as part of a larger overview of train-sims... Leezer3 ( talk) 17:24, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
simply don't exist :)Yes, that is usually a problem with niche games. This case is an edge case given that there does exist sourcing for the set of topics related to BVE. Usually when there is not another topic (as you hint at re. larger overview of train-sims) with which to merge a topic which may not be notable, the article is deleted. Do you know if train simulators are covered in train-related magazines? -- Izno ( talk) 17:35, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Essentially not, at least in the U.K. Train Simulator (The commercial one by Dovetail Games) gets some coverage for its yearly release, but that's about it. On the flip side there are 'e-magazines' & dedicated sites e.g.UKTrainsim / train-sim.com on train simulations, but they don't seem to meet your criteria... Leezer3 ( talk) 19:28, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
I don't really know what to do with this page. While the list was created with a good intention, there is just way too much misinformation here. Several games are listed here that actually do have disc released (EX Shovel Knight, Minecraft, Brothers: A Tale of Two Souls, Geometry Wars 3, just to name a few) and often times it seems like games are listed here when editors expect that the game would not have a disc release. The problem is that more and more indie and limited budget games are being released in physical form and you just can't "feel" your way around this anymore. Furthermore the list is about the absence of something and you can't really provide reliable sources for that. -- Deathawk ( talk) 05:51, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Please feel free to contribute to this discussion regarding the split of The Last of Us Part II into a separate article. – Rhain ☔ 00:00, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
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Superhot's VR version came out yesterday/today, while the original game was released back in Feb. This VR version is not just the process of slapping a VR interface onto the game (in contrast to something like Obduction (video game) where the VR is essentially the same game), but includes gameplay changes and content designs (new levels) to enhance the VR experience, but otherwise remaining true to the original game. As such, a separate article doesn't make any sense.
But that does bring me to the question about release dates, and this goes to our long-standing debate on release dates in the infobox. Obviously the VR version's release can go in the body and lede, but because the VR version is more than just adapting the game to work on that platform but adding new content, I think it does deserve a callout in the infobox.
To me, this is also consistent with the idea that remastered versions of games (if not part of a new bundle like the BioShock remasters) where significant effort has been made to upscale textures, add new content, or add features not in the original game, should be listed in the infobx, whereas ports, backwards compatibility, or other less-extensive modifications (like striping GFWL for Steam support but no other features ala Red Factor Guerrila)
But that said, we also recently discussed to not include VR units as platforms in the infobox, so I'm a bit concerned about this interaction within the infobox , and looking to get input. -- MASEM ( t) 19:51, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
I always enjoy when a video game-related article makes the In The News frontpage module (safe for Recent Deaths, of course ^_^;). Pokémon Go got an "ongoing" this year because of its enormous impact, and The International 2016 got a blurb primarily because of its enormous prize pool. Recently, the League of Legends World Championship didn't make it because the article wasn't of high enough quality at the time. I just nominated the Capcom Cup, the biggest fighting game tournament of the year, after putting a lot of work in the article throughout the season. Besides wanting to bring some attention to the nomination, I wanted to bring some attention to the whole concept of video games in the news. I am also wondering if I forgot any past ITN blurbs. ~ Mable ( chat) 20:25, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
I heard the video game Final Fantasy XV will receive new additions online. Does the article need something to make it to the news? Tintor2 ( talk) 13:51, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
I invite you to an ongoing RM discussion to improve consensus. -- George Ho ( talk) 19:08, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Now the RM discussion has reopened. You may comment there. -- George Ho ( talk) 18:34, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Almost all of the refs on this page are broken. Any ideas on how to handle it, or what would be useful here? czar 04:55, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
Please provide comment at Talk:Professional Super Smash Bros. competition#Clean up and Talk:Professional Super Smash Bros. competition#Merge request for Smashboards. -- Izno ( talk) 17:16, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
I have just nominated the article for the FA-status. I advise editors to participate in the discussion and contribute constructively to the article.
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 03:35, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
@ Gamingforfun365: Please can you undo the page move you just did? The FAC bot is now going to register that redirect as a legitimate FAC, whereas it now leads to a GA reassessment. You should have waited until the FAC coordinators closed it themselves. JAG UAR 17:54, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Make up your mind as to what you want, Gamingforfun. God sakes one shouldn't see an article go through an FAC, GAR, and PR in 24 hours. GamerPro64 15:20, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
All right. I think that the article is in a healthy shape. I think. Is it now a good time to renominate the article for the FA-status? (Also, I have two peer reviews that need to be answered—one peer review too many. What should I do about that?)
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 17:27, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
I've asked for a discussion to address the redirect Dreamfall: The Longest Journey (version 2) (and another). I'm wondering if we should retarget this (and another) to Dreamfall Chapters: The Longest Journey, which is mentioned as being the sequel (essentially, I don't know if that makes it "version 2"). Please add comments to the redirect discussion. Si Trew ( talk) 07:41, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
Could I get some quick looks at the discussion at Talk:Xander Mobus? I'd like to get some opinions. ~ Mable ( chat) 13:03, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
We're seriously at #30 of these things? What have I brought in creating this concept? But enough self-reflection, here are some articles that people can review.
Peer Reviews are basically dead right now so I have no clue what is to be done with them. Community GARs as well. Also, if anyone is interested in making a new article, the Request board is still a go-to place. 2012 requests are almost through so if you're interested, it would be much appreciated. GamerPro64 23:24, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
I'll trade anything (FAC, GAN, PR etc) for a source review Burning Rangers' FAC. It shouldn't take long given the number of sources it has, and I hope to get this FAC over and done with much quicker than the last. JAG UAR 13:52, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Also, @ Judgesurreal777:, I'll review Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix if you can provide feedback to Tidus' FAC. What do you think? Tintor2 ( talk) 14:44, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
I have reviewed and promoted
Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem to the GA-status. Is there any editor willing to take a look at the PR for
Xbox One in return?
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 19:10, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
Is it universally accepted that only primary sources are reliable? There is a discussion here regarding sales figure. I attempted to updated to 2016 sales figure based on a source from CNBC which has always been considered reliable. ferret reverted this figure stating that if Microsoft does not release figures the number can never be updated, which I find ridiculous. What are the issues using a source from CNBC. Have they released incorrect figures in the past regarding console sales? Valoem talk contrib 03:39, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
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Salavat ( talk) 06:26, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
If you're looking for a weekend project, Roblox needs to be blown up. It's borderline unreadable at parts and either has no sourcing or primary sourcing. It can be pared down to its reliably sourced parts with a strong reminder to keep it encyclopedic in the future. czar 18:17, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
In short, I removed the numerous Alpha, Beta and Version dates from the infobox of GoldenEye: Source - As per WP:VGSCOPE item 10; to bring it into line with the project's formatting of all other articles i.e No version histories in the infobox. An IP user and @ Valoem: disagree and reverted the changes (Valoem citing WP:NOTPAPER. So I'm bringing it here to get a project wide view on it. - X201 ( talk) 09:39, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
I'm still puzzled about the actual release date. The article states "After years in beta the first official version was released on December 11, 2010." Yet @ Valoem: says that is wrong, and @ Salvidrim!: suggests 2007. Bearing in mind that the infobox should be a brief overview, I've created an example simplified infobox.
Goldeneye: Source | |
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Release | Development Versions: December 26, 2005 to February 19, 2010 Official Releases: December 11, 2010 to Present |
The full list of Alpha/Beta/Official dates could be placed in a table to accompany the prose in the Development section. - X201 ( talk) 09:26, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
I've copied
Template:Welcomeg, which is currently being "subst:" into
Template:Vg welcome, into
Template:Vg welcome/sandbox. If we did this in the template, I believe it would allow us to customize the template more than just tacking on a "Suggested WikiProjects" section at the end. What do you think of this change? Should we do it? I should note that such a drastic change may require an update to Twinkle, which currently can add {{
welcome-videogames}}
, a redirect to {{
vg welcome}}
. —
Gestrid (
talk) 18:22, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Should Category:Virtual reality games be marked as a non-diffusing subcategory? Games were previously categorized to both this category and any VR platform underneath it (HTC Vive, Oculus Rift, etc.) I see the benefit of restoring its categorization in both because being an HTC Vive game does not preclude its dual status as a "virtual reality" game for purposes of lookup, but I'm not enough of a category buff to have an analogue in mind. Open to opinions. czar 19:31, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
This discussion has gone on for nearly six months. I invite you to improve consensus. Those who already voted may still comment more there, but please do not double vote. -- George Ho ( talk) 09:45, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
Special:Contributions/Xelzeta is reverting my AfD tags and delsorts instead of participating in the discussion. Would appreciate another editor/admin on this so their talk page isn't just me. czar 17:42, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
Another character list merger discussion. See here. Input is welcome. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 19:52, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
For anyone who does not know what article to clean up, I can highlight
Kinect Star Wars, as it needs a huge amount of cleanup. I am just bringing the issue up to this WikiProject both to see whether anyone is interested in improving the article and to get some help.
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 00:36, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
I have recently reviewed four GA nominees and managed to get them all promoted. May I receive a peer or good article review for let us say
Xbox One or
Star Wars: Jedi Arena in return?
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 02:07, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Does this article need to exist? Three years ago it was split off into two separate articles Link: The Faces of Evil and Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon and Zelda's Adventure, both of which are longer articles and seem to cover all the information in it. It made sense having CD-i games from The Legend of Zelda series before the split but now it seems kind of redundant when its scope is covered in two other articles. Also I know its is GA, but bare in mind it was assessed like 8 years. -- The1337gamer ( talk) 01:12, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Given this interview, I think we need to discuss where Wind Waker 2, The Wind Waker 2, and related redirects should actually redirect. The two redirects I've mentioned below have a history of switching between Twilight Princess and Phantom Hourglass. So which article should they redirect to? — Gestrid ( talk) 23:58, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Wow, tough crowd. A developer mentioned that they started on a Wind Waker 2 by that name, but it was shelved in favor of Twilight Princess, a tidbit that should definitely be mentioned in the Wind Waker article. Phantom Hourglass was a direct sequel to Wind Waker and shared the same art style and other attributes. This seems like a viable redirect for either target - I'm surprised people are arguing for neither. Sergecross73 msg me 14:26, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
By name, "Wind Waker 2" more naturally works at TP, so I think using that as the redirect target, and then have a hat not, "For the sequel to Wind Waker, see PH" at the topic, is the most common sense approach here. While PH was likely never called "Wind Waker 2" by N or other sources, it naturally follows that it would imply a sequel to WW, so this should be at least pointed out as a hat note. -- MASEM ( t)
Seeing as people like to keep this discussion here, I figured I'd add two subsections and get this thing going. For Wind Waker 2, the following possibilities were mentioned:
Feel free to discuss which of these seem the best. I personally would go with either deletion or turning it into a disambiguation page, as it would be original research to apply the redirect to PH and would be misleading to put the redirect at TP. I don't think WW applies because WW2 is not used to refer to the original game. Other opinions? Feel free to format it as a !vote. ~
Mable (
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Sergecross listed the following five redirects: Donkey Kong Country 4; Bubsy 3; Super Mario 4; Banjo Threeie; Tales of Symphonia 2. Some of these may be appropriate, while others may not be. Many of these names do not appear in the article proper. I'd like to hear opinions on these, if you have any :) ~ Mable ( chat) 20:54, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
It seems like the Mario, Banjo, and Tales redirects should stay (or at the very least, there's no real reason to get rid of them). The Donkey Kong redirect is still unsure at the time of writing, but Bubsy 3 should probably be deleted. ~ Mable ( chat) 19:36, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Hey everyone. 2016 is almost coming to an end. And one of the many outcomes from the year change will be a new year to be added to the requests board. Currently we have one request up for 2012 and when that's completed we will only be backed up from 2014. If anyone is interested in making new articles you can check the board for any inspirations. You can also remove article ideas that you believe are not notable enough to have their own page. Your work will be much appreciated. GamerPro64 19:54, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
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Salavat ( talk) 07:13, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Should we have two different articles for The World Is Not Enough? One for the N64 version and another for the PS version? In my opinion, although both games were released in late 2000 and are based on the same James Bond film, they are completely different (and notable) games: they have different gameplay (one even has a multiplayer mode while the other doesn't), different developers/development, different game engines, and different reception. It would also simplify the infobox a lot.
The GBC version, which was released a year later, can easily be merged into the series article because it is not notable. Also, should the name of these games be changed to 007: The World Is Not Enough? Many reputable sources, including GameSpot, IGN, Metacritic, and Nintendo Power, use that title. What do you think? -- Niwi3 ( talk) 22:40, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
I ultimately decided to create a draft. Feel free to review it here. I should note that the article is easily notable and that all the references discuss the topic directly and in detail. If nobody has any objections, I will move it to the article mainspace and update the N64 and series articles soon. -- Niwi3 ( talk) 11:10, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
This is a message to users of GameSpot. I've tried archiving a GameSpot url using Wayback, and it's throwing up a "robots.txt" message. I've tried with WebCite, and it hasn't archived properly there either for some reason. It is archiving on Archive.is, but unreliably as another GameSpot URL is refusing to archive. This means that a large portion of archived links from that site need to be reviewed and if possible replaced. This is probably part of the site's attempts to block crawler bots from pirating the site and using it for criminal activities. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 17:53, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
An IP editor is saying that Kotaku is a Hungarian website ( diff), which seems a bit strange to me. Could someone else take a look at this? I really don't know anything about Kotaku or its associated drama/history. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 00:42, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Just a quick note while I take a little time off from Wikipedia to say that ownership and operations for both The Lord of the Rings Online and Dungeons & Dragons Online have changed from Turbine, Inc. to Standing Stone Games. WB Games no longer owns either game, and Daybreak Games will be the distributor. The existing articles need to be updated (In particular, the LOTRO article really needs work done.), and a new article may need to be created for the indie developer. (I haven't looked into if that last one meets our guidelines yet.) More details about the change can be found here, here, and here. As an avid player of LOTRO, I probably shouldn't be involved in updating the articles. — Gestrid ( talk) 02:26, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
As an avid playerWell, if you think you'd have problems remaining neutral when updating it, sure, but I'm pretty sure most people here write about games they play. You're not prohibited from writing about subjects you're interested in.-- IDV talk 02:49, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Doing my news review today, I found an article that estimated the size of the VG market in 2016 [5] which to me seems like critical information we should be documenting. (FWIW $91B in software sales). I was surprised that our "YYYY in video games" articles, like 2016 in video games, the most logical place to include this, do not include such overall year summaries. (I since have added to this one) I think we should try to fill this in where we can (certainly from 2000 onward), as well as include any other annual metrics. One example may be the yearly summaries the ESA puts out that describes the demographics of the VG community too. -- MASEM ( t) 16:39, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
A user on the Death Stranding article claims that because a deleted Q&A that mentioned the possibility of a PC version of the game a while back, it shouldn't belong in the article at all. I disagree, stating that multiple third party reliable sources (PC Gamer, GameSpot, IGN) reported on the Q&A at the time, which means it should be included in the article as a part of the game's history, despite it most likely no longer coming to PC. Help from experienced WP:VG editors would be appreciated. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 00:56, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Corvo Attano (Dishonored) that may be of interest to this project. All the best. TimothyJosephWood 01:09, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
Are there specific guidelines for the reception section for what constitutes "positive reception" versus "critical acclaim" and so on? Asking because over at Shantae: Half-Genie Hero editors are saying the game has received "critical acclaim" or "very positive reviews" but the article only cites a handful of 8/10 review scores, so I changed it to "positive reception" which seemed more accurate to me, but my edit got reverted. Is there a concrete policy/guideline for this, or are editors just supposed to use common sense? CurlyWi ( talk) 04:56, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi guys. On December 22, in his podcast KDIcast #167 (in Russian) Sergey Galyonkin shared some "closed" Steam Spy information about Steam sales during 2016.
The estimated sales revenue:
Hope, it will be useful for you. And maybe he'll publicize additional and improved data via twitter later. -- Yakiv Gluck ( talk) 04:26, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
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We would like to wish everyone on the project a very happy holiday season! Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 03:02, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
I am starting to fall asleep over here, guys. I have one peer review page for the
Star Wars Battlefront article that has been made one month ago, and I have another for the
Xbox One article, which should not have been made, given that the rule is one peer review per editor. Help.
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 02:59, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Several prominent vg mags, especially from the 90s, use pseudonyms for their contributors instead of their actual names. Is there some obscure MoS passage on how to handle citation authorship when their actual names are available but not mentioned in the physical article? We're not talking about Mark Twain synonyms, but "The Axe Grinder" and "Captain Squideo". (1) If first/last name author attributions are possible, should we use them? (2) Does anyone know whether the GamePro authors were eventually de-pseudonymed? czar 00:20, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
Last, First writing as {{cite magazine |author=Pseudonym |magazine=Magazine |title=Title}}
and so forth, rendering as Last, First writing as Pseudonym. "Title". Magazine. --
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Pirates of the Caribbean Online has recently seen some odd editing and a listing at WP:ANI for edit warring I believe. It would be good to get some more eyes on the article, and especially to review the article history to see if all of the edits that have been made, should have been made. -- Izno ( talk) 12:15, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (video games)#What about mixed reality games like Ingress .28video game.29.3F. -- ferret ( talk) 17:41, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Owen313 has recently proposed that some of the article for EarthBound should be splitted into a new article for Ness (character), which is a redirect to the former. See Talk:EarthBound#Split for discussion. – Hounder4 05:26, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Does someone more familiar with cats know where to find the precedent for deleting Category:Nintendo 64 games by genre and Category:GameCube games by genre? They appear to be the last of their kind (three-way intersection of genre and console). czar 09:18, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
and just to give an extra touch of redundancy,
I think it has been over a year since @ Cyclonebiskit: has started creating drafts to replace our current List of Pokémon. (" full list", example1, example2). For a long time, these lists have remained stagnant, even though I think most of them are ready to be moved into the mainspace (as they are an improvement over are current pages). I don't mean to criticize Cyclonebiskit for their pace, as Wikipedia has no deadline and they are free to edit in any way they want. I just really hope that we can move these pages to to mainspace in the near future.
Of course, I do realize that the list for generation 7 ( Pokémon Sun and Moon) isn't ready yet. User:Cyclonebiskit/Alola doesn't even exist yet. I don't think that should be a reason to delay moving all of the other lists, though.
The main list also simply isn't ready yet, with the "Concept" section only being a rough draft. I think the current version of the userpage draft would already be an improvement over the mainspace article, so I'd be fine with moving it without adding too much content. I'd love to see all of this going on the mainspace soon, as Pokémon is more popular than ever this year. I'd love to try and help out a bit more with the Concept-section (though I'm not sure where to find sources), and I'd be very glad if some people could help, or even just judge if these lists are ready. ~ Mable ( chat) 19:40, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
Is it alright if I simply move these seven articles to the mainspace, turning the existing lists into redirects? It might be a bit of an awkward process, but I'll do my best. I just haven't heard any value judgments on these lists in a while and have no idea if people agree with it or not. If I don't get a reply, I'll just go ahead with it tomorrow ^_^ ~ Mable ( chat) 21:49, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
On a similar note, can someone take a look at the List of Pokémon article? An editor keeps readding unsourced information with zero explanation, while ignoring any attempts at reaching out to him. 85.167.27.57 ( talk) 21:32, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
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There is widespread agreement among editors that the description of the topic of an article do not require citations, because one would get that from [reading][the book], [watching][the film], [listening][to the song], etc.
So, is it the same for a game? Do we need a reference to describe the gameplay of, say, Star Raiders, when you can simply play the game and see for yourself?
Maury Markowitz ( talk) 16:41, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged". What this means in practical terms is that the decision not to use sourcing is an assumption that none of the text is likely to be challenged. For plot that's perhaps more often true than not, but the author must be aware that if any good faith challenge should be made to the text then it can be removed at any time. Secondly, video game manuals are ideal to cite for gameplay details and the game itself can be used as a source for plot details much of the time using the {{ Cite video game}} template. I'm completely in agreement with Sergecross73's comment above. Sources may or may not be required in the plot section, but it's generally good form to provide sources for as much as possible. - Thibbs ( talk) 12:53, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
Of course, one can easily verify the gameplay elements by playing the game as well - that's the definition after all. But as is always the case, basically, maximal citations. Maury Markowitz ( talk) 13:50, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
So as everyone here knows 1UP.com is notoriously link rotting and has a robots.txt on Archive.org. I believe the link rot is slowly increasing all around their website. So, I suggest that if anyone sees a live link of the website, immediately archive it with WebCite or the newly unblacklisted Archive.is. Don't want these pages to be gone forever. GamerPro64 16:23, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
On the Haunting Ground article, the infobox lists the series as "Clock Tower", however that is not typed anywhere in the source. The game is highly related to the Clock Tower series but isn't officially a Clock Tower game. I think it has something to do with the programming of the template at the bottom of the page, but I don't know how to change it so it doesn't auto-populate the infobox. Can anyone help me? Thanks TarkusAB 00:44, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
Looking for more input on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources#LGBTQ Video Game Archive. -- ferret ( talk) 15:26, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
It has almost been a month since I posted my discussion, which concerned Rockstar Japan's existence, and there really hasn't been any progress in the case. My attempts to contact either of the IGN editors involved in it, or even Rockstar themselves on the case, failed. Therefore, I wanted to conclude this: Should it be deleted or not? If yes, redirected or not? And I would appreciate if, in case we go for deletion, someone can help me getting rid of the article from all international Wikipedias, and the image off Wikimedia Commons. Thanks! Lordtobi ( ✉) 16:49, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
So, Soul Hackers is a game that originally came out in Japan in 1997 for the Sega Saturn, and wasn't released in English until 2013 when a 3DS port was published. The article used to be illustrated with the cover art and a screenshot from the English 3DS version, until today when George Ho added the cover art and a screenshot from the Japanese Saturn version, moving the English 3DS images down to the release/localization section. What I'm wondering is:
I would think that the English cover art would be used in most cases, since it's used for identification purposes and English-speakers likely would be more familiar with the English release, unless the original cover is really famous. That recognizability factor also applies to screenshots, I believe, with the added benefit that there is not any Japanese text in the English screenshot, so the reader is more likely to fully understand everything on it. For instance, I can read "Nemissa" in the English screenshot and deduce that the boxes represent characters in the player's party, while someone who does not read Japanese would not have any idea what "ネミッサ" means. As for multiple sets of screenshots/covers: originally, the English cover was used for identification, and the screenshot for demonstration of the gameplay, but if we have two sets of images, that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.-- IDV talk 11:43, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
What about
Tales of Hearts? The original Wii NDS release was limited to only Japan. The PS3 Vita re-release was given to overseas territories six years later.
George Ho (
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George Ho (
talk) 00:27, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
As the person who uploaded another version, I don't mind the removal of the ESRB rating. However, I am against removing the console banner if no sources prove that the official banner-less artwork exists. I found a line from
MOS:IMAGE#Editing images: "Images should not be changed in ways that materially mislead the viewer.
" However, would readers recognize the 3DS artwork without image caption and the banner?
George Ho (
talk) 02:24, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
I have been convenience that there are certain game developer region that have in influence the video game industry. I would like to purpose that people would help in make a article on game developer regions that are influential in the median. Some region I can name off the top of my head are Los Angeles, Seattle, Boston, Maryland, etc. I want a approval to do this and some editors to help me cited and critique the articles. I'm just re-posting this idea, because someone link me to here to submit my idea. If any one can response I can appreciate it. Picaxe01 ( talk) 12:07, 13 November 2016
Hello all,
I am Bowen Yu, a Ph.D. student from GroupLens Research at the University of Minnesota - Twin Cities. Currently, we are undertaking a study about turnover (editors leaving and joining) in WikiProjects within Wikipedia. We are trying to understand the effects of member turnovers in the WikiProject group, in terms of the group performance and member interaction, with a purpose of learning how to build successful online communities in future. More details about our project can be found on this meta-wiki page.
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Thank you, Bowen Bobo.03 ( talk) 23:07, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
This one snuck up on me. Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines is Today's Featured Article on the main page. On November 25th, Killer Instinct Gold will be that days TFA. Congrats to the editors for their accomplishments. GamerPro64 00:48, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
There's a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources#LGBTQ Video Game Archive about an academic source for LGBTQueer characters in video games. Opinions are welcome regarding their reliability as a source for video game articles. Diego ( talk) 16:32, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi everyone,
The latest StoryBundle features video games once more. A lot is about the PICO 8 "fantasy console", but there is also the book about the making of FTL: Faster Than Light and a book about fighting game fundamentals. If someone is interested, drop me a line and I can send a book. Or all, if you like, they're not DRM protected. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 09:02, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
I've been asked about this, and it's one of those things where I've been doing it so long, I can't remember if/where it's stated in the guidelines, but my understanding is that:
Is this correct? Is it documented anywhere, and if it isn't, should it be? Let me know. Sergecross73 msg me 22:26, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
I'd like to speed things up here. Anyone care to exchange a GA review from me for them reviewing either Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light or Genealogy of the Holy War? Or even two for two? -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 22:53, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
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Salavat ( talk) 13:37, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
This might be a useful article to someone in this project - Witnessing the birth of a sport. It could help establish notability, which seems to be quite an issue for this topic. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 15:29, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Recently, I nominated Luke fon Fabre to GA but fellow user User talk:czar insists it should be merged. Check the bottom of Talk:Luke fon Fabre#Notability for discussion. Regards. Tintor2 ( talk) 12:51, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Heyo. Can I get some fresh eyes on Crispy Gamer? I'm planning on at least taking this to GAN but due to its complex but short history and lack of any real sources I want to know if this could actually stand a chance. Cheers. GamerPro64 02:12, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
The website sought not to seek video game advertising. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 02:36, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
I've taken the article to GAN now. Would never expect it to be anywhere higher than that so let's see what happens. GamerPro64 16:59, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Looks like an article on Compulsion Games (creator of Contrast/We Happy Few) was created, but it's not NPOV. Would someone care to take a stab? -- Mr. Vernon ( talk) 21:11, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Recently I posted some concerns on the List of zombie video games talk page. I'm interested in cleaning up that list, any comments would be appreciated. Famous Hobo ( talk) 00:36, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
An anon keeps removing mention of Ultima 3 in Tactical role-playing game because he thinks it is 'irrelevant'. I've got sources that agree it is important or relevant to the genre, and I think it should be discussed in the article. Help please. SharkD Talk 18:59, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
I have nominated Rise and Fall: Civilizations at War for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. GamerPro64 04:11, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
Planet Coaster had been released about a week ago. The last time the page was assessed, it was a "Start" article. Over the year, I gradually included information and analysis regarding the game. What rating should this page have now? Yoshiman6464 ( talk) 06:27, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
I've just found this orphan article while doing an AWB run. I know nothing about it, I was going to prod it, but wondered if someone fancied the challenge of breathing a bit of life into it. - X201 ( talk) 10:06, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
Here's another Pop! The Balloon Dog Puzzle Game - X201 ( talk) 10:44, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
The Nintendo Switch is notable for being a hybrid console. However, handheld consoles like the Genesis Nomad and the PSP (PSP-2000/3000) has a native TV output. Are they also considered hybrid consoles? – // Hounder4 // 16:24, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
I've never dealt with this issue before, and I didn't see anything in MOS:VG about it, so I ask: should we add reviews of early access games? For example, RPS posted early impressions of Empyrion - Galactic Survival. I'm not sure whether it's appropriate to cite this as a review, though I've used it to describe the gameplay. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 03:07, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
Can someone help out with a dispute at Template:Final Fantasy series? HÊÚL. is insisting that the "main series" row, which contains Final Fantasies 1-15, should also have Final Fantasy Type-0, because "The HD version of Type-0 had a worldwide release and is multi-platform (Playstation 4, Xbox One and Windows). It has companion games too (Agito and Online). Every game on Fabula Nova Crystallis subseries is part of the main series.". Frankly, I would disagree that any "subseries" belongs on the main line, which is currently reserved for just the main, numbered games out of the ~100 Final Fantasy games, but I also don't want to get into an edit war about it, so if anyone else has an opinion that would be helpful. -- Pres N 21:35, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
That is the question. Is it all right or even recommended to mention (with reliable sources of course) that a video game (
such as this) has been released in let us say 1999 and eventually on a website—specifically Steam or GOG.com—in let us say 2013? (Sorry if my language is verbose).
Gamingforfun365
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Will {{
Current event}}
be put on
The Game Awards 2016 while the awards show is going on? —
Gestrid (
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We had a thread a bit ago about our "popular pages" report being down, so a public service announcement that the service is up for discussion as a community upkeep proposal: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Categories/WikiProjects#Fix_and_improve_Mr.Z-bot.27s_popular_pages_report czar 01:08, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Is wikidata at a good enough development stage to be used to generate list articles from it yet? We have genre lists with game title, developer, publisher, release date, etc. fields that so far cannot be replaced with category intersections. I wonder if wikidata may be able to fill that role now? SharkD Talk 22:01, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
How does Wikidata handle citations? Can one be added to each datum? Will citations screw up the search routines? SharkD Talk 18:38, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Out of curiosity, do we have a guideline about whether or not to put an ESRB or other type of rating in video game articles? — Gestrid ( talk) 21:30, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
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A user just made 19 Clash of Clans troops articles Category:Clash_of_Clans_troops. Not sure if they should all be deleted, or merged into a List, but that seems like a lot of articles. -- Odie5533 ( talk) 22:58, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Oh you guys mean my articles should be deleted as it does't cite secondary sources but what about articles like Gopal Bansa which does't cite any sources neither primary nor secondary?→ SeniorStar ( talk) 00:53, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
I recently noticed Thr article Spawn (handheld game) and believe that it should be moved to Spawn (1999 video game). If someone agrees with this can these please move it since I can't.-- 76.69.215.204 ( talk) 17:59, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
I'm seeing a lot of results for this game in the WP:VG/S search but the vast majority are for one of two works: Wargamer and RPS. Is there notability here? From what I saw, there's also a number of articles for Decisive Campaigns, so it looks like there's a series there. -- Izno ( talk) 20:44, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
I was wondering if someone could find and add to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Assessment some very short examples of Start, C, and B class articles. I noticed the example for Start is unusually lengthy, and I think a short example would be best to make clear the most salient aspects of the different classes. -- Odie5533 ( talk) 01:13, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=BVE_Trainsim
Hopefully this is ending up in the right place......
First off, a disclaimer- I'm the primary developer for the currently 'active' fork of openBVE http://openbve-project.net
At present, I've made a few small cleanups to the article, and removed a pile of junk from the end (openBVE 'Update 4' as far as anyone in the community is aware is a very bad case of vapourware, and the deleted stuff was nowhere close to guidelines....)
What I need now is advice on exactly where to go from here. The talk page is rather a mess, was last used in 2010, and refers to '00s of deleted revisions.
Some thoughts:
Overall, I can provide a perspective of someone who has been with the BVE/ openBVE community since it's inception, but exactly how much of this translates into an encyclopaedia I don't know.....
Advice welcome! Leezer3 ( talk) 14:33, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
That's an issue I'm not sure how to handle. Train-sims are a niche topic to start with, and as neither BVE or openBVE have been commercialised, the sort of sources you seem to want in that front (e.g. large editorially independent publications) simply don't exist :)
Clearly though, the article doesn't belong as part of a larger overview of train-sims... Leezer3 ( talk) 17:24, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
simply don't exist :)Yes, that is usually a problem with niche games. This case is an edge case given that there does exist sourcing for the set of topics related to BVE. Usually when there is not another topic (as you hint at re. larger overview of train-sims) with which to merge a topic which may not be notable, the article is deleted. Do you know if train simulators are covered in train-related magazines? -- Izno ( talk) 17:35, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Essentially not, at least in the U.K. Train Simulator (The commercial one by Dovetail Games) gets some coverage for its yearly release, but that's about it. On the flip side there are 'e-magazines' & dedicated sites e.g.UKTrainsim / train-sim.com on train simulations, but they don't seem to meet your criteria... Leezer3 ( talk) 19:28, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
I don't really know what to do with this page. While the list was created with a good intention, there is just way too much misinformation here. Several games are listed here that actually do have disc released (EX Shovel Knight, Minecraft, Brothers: A Tale of Two Souls, Geometry Wars 3, just to name a few) and often times it seems like games are listed here when editors expect that the game would not have a disc release. The problem is that more and more indie and limited budget games are being released in physical form and you just can't "feel" your way around this anymore. Furthermore the list is about the absence of something and you can't really provide reliable sources for that. -- Deathawk ( talk) 05:51, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Please feel free to contribute to this discussion regarding the split of The Last of Us Part II into a separate article. – Rhain ☔ 00:00, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
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Superhot's VR version came out yesterday/today, while the original game was released back in Feb. This VR version is not just the process of slapping a VR interface onto the game (in contrast to something like Obduction (video game) where the VR is essentially the same game), but includes gameplay changes and content designs (new levels) to enhance the VR experience, but otherwise remaining true to the original game. As such, a separate article doesn't make any sense.
But that does bring me to the question about release dates, and this goes to our long-standing debate on release dates in the infobox. Obviously the VR version's release can go in the body and lede, but because the VR version is more than just adapting the game to work on that platform but adding new content, I think it does deserve a callout in the infobox.
To me, this is also consistent with the idea that remastered versions of games (if not part of a new bundle like the BioShock remasters) where significant effort has been made to upscale textures, add new content, or add features not in the original game, should be listed in the infobx, whereas ports, backwards compatibility, or other less-extensive modifications (like striping GFWL for Steam support but no other features ala Red Factor Guerrila)
But that said, we also recently discussed to not include VR units as platforms in the infobox, so I'm a bit concerned about this interaction within the infobox , and looking to get input. -- MASEM ( t) 19:51, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
I always enjoy when a video game-related article makes the In The News frontpage module (safe for Recent Deaths, of course ^_^;). Pokémon Go got an "ongoing" this year because of its enormous impact, and The International 2016 got a blurb primarily because of its enormous prize pool. Recently, the League of Legends World Championship didn't make it because the article wasn't of high enough quality at the time. I just nominated the Capcom Cup, the biggest fighting game tournament of the year, after putting a lot of work in the article throughout the season. Besides wanting to bring some attention to the nomination, I wanted to bring some attention to the whole concept of video games in the news. I am also wondering if I forgot any past ITN blurbs. ~ Mable ( chat) 20:25, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
I heard the video game Final Fantasy XV will receive new additions online. Does the article need something to make it to the news? Tintor2 ( talk) 13:51, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
I invite you to an ongoing RM discussion to improve consensus. -- George Ho ( talk) 19:08, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Now the RM discussion has reopened. You may comment there. -- George Ho ( talk) 18:34, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Almost all of the refs on this page are broken. Any ideas on how to handle it, or what would be useful here? czar 04:55, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
Please provide comment at Talk:Professional Super Smash Bros. competition#Clean up and Talk:Professional Super Smash Bros. competition#Merge request for Smashboards. -- Izno ( talk) 17:16, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
I have just nominated the article for the FA-status. I advise editors to participate in the discussion and contribute constructively to the article.
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 03:35, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
@ Gamingforfun365: Please can you undo the page move you just did? The FAC bot is now going to register that redirect as a legitimate FAC, whereas it now leads to a GA reassessment. You should have waited until the FAC coordinators closed it themselves. JAG UAR 17:54, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Make up your mind as to what you want, Gamingforfun. God sakes one shouldn't see an article go through an FAC, GAR, and PR in 24 hours. GamerPro64 15:20, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
All right. I think that the article is in a healthy shape. I think. Is it now a good time to renominate the article for the FA-status? (Also, I have two peer reviews that need to be answered—one peer review too many. What should I do about that?)
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 17:27, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
I've asked for a discussion to address the redirect Dreamfall: The Longest Journey (version 2) (and another). I'm wondering if we should retarget this (and another) to Dreamfall Chapters: The Longest Journey, which is mentioned as being the sequel (essentially, I don't know if that makes it "version 2"). Please add comments to the redirect discussion. Si Trew ( talk) 07:41, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
Could I get some quick looks at the discussion at Talk:Xander Mobus? I'd like to get some opinions. ~ Mable ( chat) 13:03, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
We're seriously at #30 of these things? What have I brought in creating this concept? But enough self-reflection, here are some articles that people can review.
Peer Reviews are basically dead right now so I have no clue what is to be done with them. Community GARs as well. Also, if anyone is interested in making a new article, the Request board is still a go-to place. 2012 requests are almost through so if you're interested, it would be much appreciated. GamerPro64 23:24, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
I'll trade anything (FAC, GAN, PR etc) for a source review Burning Rangers' FAC. It shouldn't take long given the number of sources it has, and I hope to get this FAC over and done with much quicker than the last. JAG UAR 13:52, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Also, @ Judgesurreal777:, I'll review Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix if you can provide feedback to Tidus' FAC. What do you think? Tintor2 ( talk) 14:44, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
I have reviewed and promoted
Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem to the GA-status. Is there any editor willing to take a look at the PR for
Xbox One in return?
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 19:10, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
Is it universally accepted that only primary sources are reliable? There is a discussion here regarding sales figure. I attempted to updated to 2016 sales figure based on a source from CNBC which has always been considered reliable. ferret reverted this figure stating that if Microsoft does not release figures the number can never be updated, which I find ridiculous. What are the issues using a source from CNBC. Have they released incorrect figures in the past regarding console sales? Valoem talk contrib 03:39, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
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Salavat ( talk) 06:26, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
If you're looking for a weekend project, Roblox needs to be blown up. It's borderline unreadable at parts and either has no sourcing or primary sourcing. It can be pared down to its reliably sourced parts with a strong reminder to keep it encyclopedic in the future. czar 18:17, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
In short, I removed the numerous Alpha, Beta and Version dates from the infobox of GoldenEye: Source - As per WP:VGSCOPE item 10; to bring it into line with the project's formatting of all other articles i.e No version histories in the infobox. An IP user and @ Valoem: disagree and reverted the changes (Valoem citing WP:NOTPAPER. So I'm bringing it here to get a project wide view on it. - X201 ( talk) 09:39, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
I'm still puzzled about the actual release date. The article states "After years in beta the first official version was released on December 11, 2010." Yet @ Valoem: says that is wrong, and @ Salvidrim!: suggests 2007. Bearing in mind that the infobox should be a brief overview, I've created an example simplified infobox.
Goldeneye: Source | |
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Release | Development Versions: December 26, 2005 to February 19, 2010 Official Releases: December 11, 2010 to Present |
The full list of Alpha/Beta/Official dates could be placed in a table to accompany the prose in the Development section. - X201 ( talk) 09:26, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
I've copied
Template:Welcomeg, which is currently being "subst:" into
Template:Vg welcome, into
Template:Vg welcome/sandbox. If we did this in the template, I believe it would allow us to customize the template more than just tacking on a "Suggested WikiProjects" section at the end. What do you think of this change? Should we do it? I should note that such a drastic change may require an update to Twinkle, which currently can add {{
welcome-videogames}}
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vg welcome}}
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Gestrid (
talk) 18:22, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Should Category:Virtual reality games be marked as a non-diffusing subcategory? Games were previously categorized to both this category and any VR platform underneath it (HTC Vive, Oculus Rift, etc.) I see the benefit of restoring its categorization in both because being an HTC Vive game does not preclude its dual status as a "virtual reality" game for purposes of lookup, but I'm not enough of a category buff to have an analogue in mind. Open to opinions. czar 19:31, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
This discussion has gone on for nearly six months. I invite you to improve consensus. Those who already voted may still comment more there, but please do not double vote. -- George Ho ( talk) 09:45, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
Special:Contributions/Xelzeta is reverting my AfD tags and delsorts instead of participating in the discussion. Would appreciate another editor/admin on this so their talk page isn't just me. czar 17:42, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
Another character list merger discussion. See here. Input is welcome. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 19:52, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
For anyone who does not know what article to clean up, I can highlight
Kinect Star Wars, as it needs a huge amount of cleanup. I am just bringing the issue up to this WikiProject both to see whether anyone is interested in improving the article and to get some help.
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 00:36, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
I have recently reviewed four GA nominees and managed to get them all promoted. May I receive a peer or good article review for let us say
Xbox One or
Star Wars: Jedi Arena in return?
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 02:07, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Does this article need to exist? Three years ago it was split off into two separate articles Link: The Faces of Evil and Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon and Zelda's Adventure, both of which are longer articles and seem to cover all the information in it. It made sense having CD-i games from The Legend of Zelda series before the split but now it seems kind of redundant when its scope is covered in two other articles. Also I know its is GA, but bare in mind it was assessed like 8 years. -- The1337gamer ( talk) 01:12, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Given this interview, I think we need to discuss where Wind Waker 2, The Wind Waker 2, and related redirects should actually redirect. The two redirects I've mentioned below have a history of switching between Twilight Princess and Phantom Hourglass. So which article should they redirect to? — Gestrid ( talk) 23:58, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Wow, tough crowd. A developer mentioned that they started on a Wind Waker 2 by that name, but it was shelved in favor of Twilight Princess, a tidbit that should definitely be mentioned in the Wind Waker article. Phantom Hourglass was a direct sequel to Wind Waker and shared the same art style and other attributes. This seems like a viable redirect for either target - I'm surprised people are arguing for neither. Sergecross73 msg me 14:26, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
By name, "Wind Waker 2" more naturally works at TP, so I think using that as the redirect target, and then have a hat not, "For the sequel to Wind Waker, see PH" at the topic, is the most common sense approach here. While PH was likely never called "Wind Waker 2" by N or other sources, it naturally follows that it would imply a sequel to WW, so this should be at least pointed out as a hat note. -- MASEM ( t)
Seeing as people like to keep this discussion here, I figured I'd add two subsections and get this thing going. For Wind Waker 2, the following possibilities were mentioned:
Feel free to discuss which of these seem the best. I personally would go with either deletion or turning it into a disambiguation page, as it would be original research to apply the redirect to PH and would be misleading to put the redirect at TP. I don't think WW applies because WW2 is not used to refer to the original game. Other opinions? Feel free to format it as a !vote. ~
Mable (
chat) 20:54, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Sergecross listed the following five redirects: Donkey Kong Country 4; Bubsy 3; Super Mario 4; Banjo Threeie; Tales of Symphonia 2. Some of these may be appropriate, while others may not be. Many of these names do not appear in the article proper. I'd like to hear opinions on these, if you have any :) ~ Mable ( chat) 20:54, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
It seems like the Mario, Banjo, and Tales redirects should stay (or at the very least, there's no real reason to get rid of them). The Donkey Kong redirect is still unsure at the time of writing, but Bubsy 3 should probably be deleted. ~ Mable ( chat) 19:36, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Hey everyone. 2016 is almost coming to an end. And one of the many outcomes from the year change will be a new year to be added to the requests board. Currently we have one request up for 2012 and when that's completed we will only be backed up from 2014. If anyone is interested in making new articles you can check the board for any inspirations. You can also remove article ideas that you believe are not notable enough to have their own page. Your work will be much appreciated. GamerPro64 19:54, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
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Salavat ( talk) 07:13, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Should we have two different articles for The World Is Not Enough? One for the N64 version and another for the PS version? In my opinion, although both games were released in late 2000 and are based on the same James Bond film, they are completely different (and notable) games: they have different gameplay (one even has a multiplayer mode while the other doesn't), different developers/development, different game engines, and different reception. It would also simplify the infobox a lot.
The GBC version, which was released a year later, can easily be merged into the series article because it is not notable. Also, should the name of these games be changed to 007: The World Is Not Enough? Many reputable sources, including GameSpot, IGN, Metacritic, and Nintendo Power, use that title. What do you think? -- Niwi3 ( talk) 22:40, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
I ultimately decided to create a draft. Feel free to review it here. I should note that the article is easily notable and that all the references discuss the topic directly and in detail. If nobody has any objections, I will move it to the article mainspace and update the N64 and series articles soon. -- Niwi3 ( talk) 11:10, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
This is a message to users of GameSpot. I've tried archiving a GameSpot url using Wayback, and it's throwing up a "robots.txt" message. I've tried with WebCite, and it hasn't archived properly there either for some reason. It is archiving on Archive.is, but unreliably as another GameSpot URL is refusing to archive. This means that a large portion of archived links from that site need to be reviewed and if possible replaced. This is probably part of the site's attempts to block crawler bots from pirating the site and using it for criminal activities. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 17:53, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
An IP editor is saying that Kotaku is a Hungarian website ( diff), which seems a bit strange to me. Could someone else take a look at this? I really don't know anything about Kotaku or its associated drama/history. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 00:42, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Just a quick note while I take a little time off from Wikipedia to say that ownership and operations for both The Lord of the Rings Online and Dungeons & Dragons Online have changed from Turbine, Inc. to Standing Stone Games. WB Games no longer owns either game, and Daybreak Games will be the distributor. The existing articles need to be updated (In particular, the LOTRO article really needs work done.), and a new article may need to be created for the indie developer. (I haven't looked into if that last one meets our guidelines yet.) More details about the change can be found here, here, and here. As an avid player of LOTRO, I probably shouldn't be involved in updating the articles. — Gestrid ( talk) 02:26, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
As an avid playerWell, if you think you'd have problems remaining neutral when updating it, sure, but I'm pretty sure most people here write about games they play. You're not prohibited from writing about subjects you're interested in.-- IDV talk 02:49, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Doing my news review today, I found an article that estimated the size of the VG market in 2016 [5] which to me seems like critical information we should be documenting. (FWIW $91B in software sales). I was surprised that our "YYYY in video games" articles, like 2016 in video games, the most logical place to include this, do not include such overall year summaries. (I since have added to this one) I think we should try to fill this in where we can (certainly from 2000 onward), as well as include any other annual metrics. One example may be the yearly summaries the ESA puts out that describes the demographics of the VG community too. -- MASEM ( t) 16:39, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
A user on the Death Stranding article claims that because a deleted Q&A that mentioned the possibility of a PC version of the game a while back, it shouldn't belong in the article at all. I disagree, stating that multiple third party reliable sources (PC Gamer, GameSpot, IGN) reported on the Q&A at the time, which means it should be included in the article as a part of the game's history, despite it most likely no longer coming to PC. Help from experienced WP:VG editors would be appreciated. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 00:56, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Corvo Attano (Dishonored) that may be of interest to this project. All the best. TimothyJosephWood 01:09, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
Are there specific guidelines for the reception section for what constitutes "positive reception" versus "critical acclaim" and so on? Asking because over at Shantae: Half-Genie Hero editors are saying the game has received "critical acclaim" or "very positive reviews" but the article only cites a handful of 8/10 review scores, so I changed it to "positive reception" which seemed more accurate to me, but my edit got reverted. Is there a concrete policy/guideline for this, or are editors just supposed to use common sense? CurlyWi ( talk) 04:56, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi guys. On December 22, in his podcast KDIcast #167 (in Russian) Sergey Galyonkin shared some "closed" Steam Spy information about Steam sales during 2016.
The estimated sales revenue:
Hope, it will be useful for you. And maybe he'll publicize additional and improved data via twitter later. -- Yakiv Gluck ( talk) 04:26, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
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Salavat ( talk) 06:37, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
We would like to wish everyone on the project a very happy holiday season! Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 03:02, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
I am starting to fall asleep over here, guys. I have one peer review page for the
Star Wars Battlefront article that has been made one month ago, and I have another for the
Xbox One article, which should not have been made, given that the rule is one peer review per editor. Help.
Gamingforfun365
(talk) 02:59, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Several prominent vg mags, especially from the 90s, use pseudonyms for their contributors instead of their actual names. Is there some obscure MoS passage on how to handle citation authorship when their actual names are available but not mentioned in the physical article? We're not talking about Mark Twain synonyms, but "The Axe Grinder" and "Captain Squideo". (1) If first/last name author attributions are possible, should we use them? (2) Does anyone know whether the GamePro authors were eventually de-pseudonymed? czar 00:20, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
Last, First writing as {{cite magazine |author=Pseudonym |magazine=Magazine |title=Title}}
and so forth, rendering as Last, First writing as Pseudonym. "Title". Magazine. --
Izno (
talk) 07:29, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
Pirates of the Caribbean Online has recently seen some odd editing and a listing at WP:ANI for edit warring I believe. It would be good to get some more eyes on the article, and especially to review the article history to see if all of the edits that have been made, should have been made. -- Izno ( talk) 12:15, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (video games)#What about mixed reality games like Ingress .28video game.29.3F. -- ferret ( talk) 17:41, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Owen313 has recently proposed that some of the article for EarthBound should be splitted into a new article for Ness (character), which is a redirect to the former. See Talk:EarthBound#Split for discussion. – Hounder4 05:26, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Does someone more familiar with cats know where to find the precedent for deleting Category:Nintendo 64 games by genre and Category:GameCube games by genre? They appear to be the last of their kind (three-way intersection of genre and console). czar 09:18, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
and just to give an extra touch of redundancy,
I think it has been over a year since @ Cyclonebiskit: has started creating drafts to replace our current List of Pokémon. (" full list", example1, example2). For a long time, these lists have remained stagnant, even though I think most of them are ready to be moved into the mainspace (as they are an improvement over are current pages). I don't mean to criticize Cyclonebiskit for their pace, as Wikipedia has no deadline and they are free to edit in any way they want. I just really hope that we can move these pages to to mainspace in the near future.
Of course, I do realize that the list for generation 7 ( Pokémon Sun and Moon) isn't ready yet. User:Cyclonebiskit/Alola doesn't even exist yet. I don't think that should be a reason to delay moving all of the other lists, though.
The main list also simply isn't ready yet, with the "Concept" section only being a rough draft. I think the current version of the userpage draft would already be an improvement over the mainspace article, so I'd be fine with moving it without adding too much content. I'd love to see all of this going on the mainspace soon, as Pokémon is more popular than ever this year. I'd love to try and help out a bit more with the Concept-section (though I'm not sure where to find sources), and I'd be very glad if some people could help, or even just judge if these lists are ready. ~ Mable ( chat) 19:40, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
Is it alright if I simply move these seven articles to the mainspace, turning the existing lists into redirects? It might be a bit of an awkward process, but I'll do my best. I just haven't heard any value judgments on these lists in a while and have no idea if people agree with it or not. If I don't get a reply, I'll just go ahead with it tomorrow ^_^ ~ Mable ( chat) 21:49, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
On a similar note, can someone take a look at the List of Pokémon article? An editor keeps readding unsourced information with zero explanation, while ignoring any attempts at reaching out to him. 85.167.27.57 ( talk) 21:32, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
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