I have just been creating another page ( Tony Shaw (rugby)) when I came across this link. I was thinking if we should create a similar page on wikipedia, possibly called list of australian wallabies or list of australian international rugby union players etc etc you get my drift. Or would we not be able to do it because of cipyright (what if we find more links). Await feed-back. De Mattia ( talk) 08:26, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
The article is now up and running as a user sub-page here. Will need a lot of work before it can be moved onto the encyclopedia. De Mattia ( talk) 07:28, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Some of the Irish Rugby Bios aren't of great quality. I'm starting a clean up of them, beginning with current international players and working onwards from there. Plan is to have them in a similar style as I've done here with:-
Alan Quinlan. Any input, help, suggestions etc. would be appreciated. I'm starting with the current Internationals as listed here:
[1], first up:-
Rory Best
GainLine
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12:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Tis true! Thought I'd start with the current irish internationals and work form there, could take some time
GainLine
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♥
18:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
I have to admit that I was suprised by both the lack of content within existing bios, and the general lack of bios altogether when browsing for rugby players. This is most apparent with historical figures in the game (and indeed with historical clubs) but does extend into the modern era quite significantly. However, I suppose the predominant reason for a project is to elevate the quality and content of the subject. Does wikiproject rugby union follow the guidelines set out by the overarching wikiproject biography, or does it have its own slant, i.e. a specific rugby union biography template? Kwib ( talk) 08:56, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
wikiproject rugy union doesnt seem to be one of the more active projects hence my proposal to start cleaning up Bios, begiining with the irish ones.
GainLine
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14:21, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello,
In fact, most rugby bios are complete crap, that's true in wikipedia.fr and in wikipedia.en. If you want it, we can better together some bios : look at fr:Sébastien Chabal. We can do the same work with Jonah Lomu and Jonny Wilkinson and...
or other players in order to have 15 good articles... Ddfree ( talk) 20:21, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Ddfree ( talk) 17:17, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
In some cases, some great players don't even have articles, or at least not until recently. I had to create Hugh McLeod (rugby union) myself, and he appears on at least three lists of all time Scotland greats - is there some way we can get checklists for each country of their great players? That way we can clean up bad articles, and also create new ones where necessary.
One word of warning though. I think if we focus too much on the likes of Lomu and Wilkinson, we may be in danger of neglecting the older greats. There must be a huge range of them from the 1960s, and 1970s backwards.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 18:56, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
"Why not the 1990s and 2000s stars" - Well, for a start IMHO there's far more information on them online already than most of the players before that era. (With the exception of some 1980s stars). I'm trying to create articles just now on various players who were killed in WWI, and have also created a couple about Angus Buchanan and William Cross, who scored the historic first try and points in international rugby. I think the recent articles are better able to look after themselves, but we do still have about 140+ years to chew over! -- MacRusgail ( talk) 13:07, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Folks, the above needs better sourcing to support notability per WP:CLUB. Anyone? – ukexpat ( talk) 20:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I have made a change to this template to allow the entry of tries, conversions, penalties and drop goals separately as "tryX", "conX", "penX" and "dropX", where "X" can be either "1" or "2", 1 being the "home" team and 2 being the "away" team. A trial of the modifications has been rolled out at 2009 British and Irish Lions tour to South Africa so that you can see how it works. – Pee Jay 12:49, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Maybe the union and league kids can get together and collaborate a new list as well as a new cat regarding league-2-union converts and vice versa..-- Warpath ( talk) 02:11, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Also see Dual-code rugby internationals if you aren't aware of that page Mattlore ( talk) 00:16, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Aside from the dual internationalists, there are a number of converts who are single internationalists, or who have had notable careers without being capped.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 22:19, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Is it me or since Shudde left, people have stop paying attention to articles and WP:RU completely? ...-- Warpath ( talk) 20:41, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
There are still a number of people beavering away, a number of whom use this talk page. I've been trying to create articles on rugby heritage from all corners of the world, and have created one or two Scottish ones. (Although Scottish rugby isn't really receiving much attention on wikipedia unfortunately - especially considering we're the second oldest rugby nation!)
I didn't like the Ireland fiasco myself, since there were several viable all Ireland alternatives available...-- MacRusgail ( talk) 22:19, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to open up a discussion which is going on around 1984 Australia rugby union tour of the British Isles and Ireland. This, and a number of other RU tours have been subject to multiple page name moves and I'm hoping that between us we could thrash out a policy for such tours to establish a definitive name which we can stick with.
Should it be "Britain and Ireland", which is my own preference, "British Isles" - politically controversial... "British Isles and Ireland", which doesn't seem to make a great deal of sense... or "something else"? Suggestions please!-- Bcp67 ( talk) 07:28, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Came across a new article Harold Dingwall Bateson at first I thought it was a hoax as it said he played for Liverpool F.C. so I added speedy tag editor has now added source that he was capped for England could do with expert eyes. BigDunc 21:27, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm going to try and push Arthur Gould (rugby player) for Good Article status. If anyone wants to give the article a quick look over, or better still knows of a photo that can be used would be appreciated. FruitMonkey ( talk) 21:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
I see Arthur Gould has made it to GA status - good work!-- Bcp67 ( talk) 18:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Can I suggest that we should have an article on cross-code rugby? I have put some notes on the hybrid sports page, but it would be interesting to have some material on league-union games. I think these are probably more common than people realise, and took place during the wars in military set ups etc. -- MacRusgail ( talk) 18:25, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Numerous people have, over the past few months, been working dilligently on the Pontypridd RFC wiki, trying to bring it up to scratch. We'd very much appreciate some solid feedback. Thanks so much. -- Monkeynuts2008 ( talk) 15:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Can anyone offer some help? I don't know anything about notability requirements for rugby union teams. I declined the speedy deletion on this userpage, but I had to block the username per WP:ORGNAME. - Dank ( push to talk) 12:43, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated List of 1888–1889 New Zealand Native football team matches for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dabomb87 ( talk) 02:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated myself Template_talk:Did_you_know#1955_British_Lions_tour_to_South_Africa
Bcp67 has told me my edit made him/her "sit up", and this encouraged me to put this up. I don't know how many unusual rugby facts we get on the front page, but I hope you will support this one for the "Did you know?" section.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 19:27, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
The East Africa rugby union team page is now over the 1,500 character minimum for a DYK, I did a bit of expansion of the material. So I may try and resubmit this under the EA article rather than the Lions one. I also suspect that EA may have played other games, but it is very hard to track them down. The article got created yesterday (2:45 am here and I must go to bed), so there's still six days to play with.
By the way, if anyone's interested in the unusual corners of rugby, someone's created this article - Rugby union at the 2009 Maccabiah Games. The Maccabiah are basically the Jewish Olympics (and are partly a political exercise to get people to settle in Israel - but let's not go there!), and the teams that enter are amateurs from the various countries, and not up to the standards of the "real" national teams, but something I wasn't aware of until this year.
I'm hoping this isn't the last rugby DYK I can get. I'm sure there's more. (The South Sea Islanders playing their first international with a tree in the middle of the pitch?) Guid publiceety fur the eggba' an aw that... Thanks for the support. -- MacRusgail ( talk) 01:43, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
East Africa's on the front page today! Thanks for your help.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 14:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Or so they claim.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 15:44, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
As you may know, we currently have 400 good article nominations, with a large number of them being in the sports and recreation section. As such, the waiting time for this is especially long, much longer than it should be. As a result of this, I am asking each sports-related WikiProject to review two or three of these nominations. If this is abided by, then the backlog should be cleared quite quickly. Some projects nominate a lot but don't review, or vice-versa, and following this should help to provide a balance and make the waiting time much smaller so that our articles can actually get reviewed! Wizardman 23:39, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Is there a way to add a link to the source of the infomation found in players infoboxes? I'm thinking of something like the "|source=" field found in template:Infobox cricketer biography. Nev1 ( talk) 17:12, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I recently created an article on Angus Stuart, a little known Cardiff and Dewsbury player who toured with the British Isles team of 1888. On completion I found he linked to a New Zealand tour of 1893, and a list of New Zealand rugby union players. Does anyone have any information linking Angus Stuart from Cardiff to Angus Stuart the New Zealand player. They are surely the same person as Stuart settled in New Zealand after the tour, but I have no proof such as a date/place of birth or death to link the two together, and I don't want to enter information built on assumption. Cheers FruitMonkey ( talk) 12:19, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
I've come across an article named The South (rugby) which describes the South district team which used to play against touring teams (and in the SRU district championship) in the amateur era. The title doesn't seem fully descriptive and I'm proposing to change it to something along the lines of South (Scottish rugby union team) or similar. Any thoughts from anyone?
I think this article would be better with the article, or at "South of Scotland" (edit to add - SoS is probably better). Generally the name would mean anywhere in Scotland, south of the Central Belt (i.e. Glasgow-Edinburgh hinterland), but due to the dominance of the Borders, I suspect few players in it came from Dumfries and Galloway (although there are some notable players from the south west, such as Nick De Luca and Arthur Smith)-- MacRusgail ( talk) 20:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
I've been bold and moved the article to South of Scotland rugby union team. I think "the South" is in common use in Scotland, but is not appropriate as an article title for several reasons. It's fine and well within a purely Scottish rugby context, but within an international one, I don't think it's helpful. -- MacRusgail ( talk) 20:13, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
It might interest people to know that there was an article in The Scotsman the other day about the possible revival of this side.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 17:32, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Why is it impossible for me to edit individual sections on this page now? Is anyone else having this problem? – Pee Jay 06:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
I've been picked up on a GA nominated article that I have used at different times all three spellings. Even the page Rugby union positions has used all three terms in different places. Could we come to a decision on the spellings as it will prevent updates further down the line. I'm going for 'full back' in the article as it appears to be the most common spelling in text books. While we are at it are there other positions that crop up with this problem, such as threequarter, three-quarter and three quarter. Cheers FruitMonkey ( talk) 15:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
I understood that the Sydney club Rugby comp started in 1900 but on the Shute Shield page it only has winners from 1906 onwards. I believe the old Glebe club won 4 titles and 1 each by Eastern Suburbs and the old South Sydney RU club in the period between 1900 and 1905.
Hi all. I was planning to write an article about Reuben Paniora, a New Zealand-born Danish international (17 caps) who played professionally in Spain and passed away last year. Before I start writing, though (I have a good number of sources by the way), I would like to know if my article would be considered worth keeping or would be deleted for lack of notability. What do you think? McMarcoP ( talk) 12:11, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Why not mention him on each of the individual articles?-- MacRusgail ( talk) 11:54, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
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Can someone help fix this? I'm trying to ad this to articles that are relevent such as Mob football. Rowlan ( talk) 15:48, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
I have had conflicting information for the first internationals of each of these countries. I suppose part of the problem is that the top tier rugby nations didn't award caps (for some reason) for teams playing these countries until relatively recently. I would be interested in any feedback on this matter.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 20:22, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Comrade editors, you may be interested in the article I am "growing" at my page User:MacRusgail/Rugby union in the Soviet Union. I intend to try and improve the references, and have got hold of the rugby article in the English language version of the Great Soviet Encyclopedia.
So far, the article perhaps has a bit too much of an emphasis on some of the more unsavoury aspects of the USSR, but getting material has been difficult, and I would appreciate any advice. In particular, there is a story of a brawl in Moscow between Welsh and Romanian players, which resulted in the police getting involved. Some sources put it in the '30s, and others in the '50s. Or did Llanelli visit in both decades? Certainly the claim (in certain books) that it resulted in the game being banned in the USSR for several decades is untrue, although it may have diminished official support. I say this because there is evidence of the game being played in the '50s, '60s, '70s and '80s, and even around the early post-war period.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 20:41, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
There is a fascinating list of people who have played both high level rugby and cricket at List of cricket and rugby union players.
However, a quick look through the articles shows that many of them are heavily biased towards cricket, probably because they've been written off the cricinfo site. I've tried to make some amends, but some of the articles are really bad on the rugby side. For example, the English player Frank Mitchell's rugby career is given only in a tiny paragraph at the end, despite the fact that he captained the national team.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 17:03, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
I notice User:MBelgrano has tagged a number of rugby tour articles such as the 1952 Ireland rugby union tour of South America, British Lions tours, and French tours as "not notable". Needless to say, I have left a note here, and explained that these certainly are "notable". However, given my general lack of faith in Wikipedia bureaucracy, I'm surprised some administrator hasn't gone and deleted them! So keep a look out!
However, one of his/her other tags is perhaps more justifiable, since it was about context. It may be worth providing more context in these articles.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 17:43, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I have just been creating another page ( Tony Shaw (rugby)) when I came across this link. I was thinking if we should create a similar page on wikipedia, possibly called list of australian wallabies or list of australian international rugby union players etc etc you get my drift. Or would we not be able to do it because of cipyright (what if we find more links). Await feed-back. De Mattia ( talk) 08:26, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
The article is now up and running as a user sub-page here. Will need a lot of work before it can be moved onto the encyclopedia. De Mattia ( talk) 07:28, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Some of the Irish Rugby Bios aren't of great quality. I'm starting a clean up of them, beginning with current international players and working onwards from there. Plan is to have them in a similar style as I've done here with:-
Alan Quinlan. Any input, help, suggestions etc. would be appreciated. I'm starting with the current Internationals as listed here:
[1], first up:-
Rory Best
GainLine
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12:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Tis true! Thought I'd start with the current irish internationals and work form there, could take some time
GainLine
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♥
18:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
I have to admit that I was suprised by both the lack of content within existing bios, and the general lack of bios altogether when browsing for rugby players. This is most apparent with historical figures in the game (and indeed with historical clubs) but does extend into the modern era quite significantly. However, I suppose the predominant reason for a project is to elevate the quality and content of the subject. Does wikiproject rugby union follow the guidelines set out by the overarching wikiproject biography, or does it have its own slant, i.e. a specific rugby union biography template? Kwib ( talk) 08:56, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
wikiproject rugy union doesnt seem to be one of the more active projects hence my proposal to start cleaning up Bios, begiining with the irish ones.
GainLine
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14:21, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello,
In fact, most rugby bios are complete crap, that's true in wikipedia.fr and in wikipedia.en. If you want it, we can better together some bios : look at fr:Sébastien Chabal. We can do the same work with Jonah Lomu and Jonny Wilkinson and...
or other players in order to have 15 good articles... Ddfree ( talk) 20:21, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Ddfree ( talk) 17:17, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
In some cases, some great players don't even have articles, or at least not until recently. I had to create Hugh McLeod (rugby union) myself, and he appears on at least three lists of all time Scotland greats - is there some way we can get checklists for each country of their great players? That way we can clean up bad articles, and also create new ones where necessary.
One word of warning though. I think if we focus too much on the likes of Lomu and Wilkinson, we may be in danger of neglecting the older greats. There must be a huge range of them from the 1960s, and 1970s backwards.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 18:56, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
"Why not the 1990s and 2000s stars" - Well, for a start IMHO there's far more information on them online already than most of the players before that era. (With the exception of some 1980s stars). I'm trying to create articles just now on various players who were killed in WWI, and have also created a couple about Angus Buchanan and William Cross, who scored the historic first try and points in international rugby. I think the recent articles are better able to look after themselves, but we do still have about 140+ years to chew over! -- MacRusgail ( talk) 13:07, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Folks, the above needs better sourcing to support notability per WP:CLUB. Anyone? – ukexpat ( talk) 20:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I have made a change to this template to allow the entry of tries, conversions, penalties and drop goals separately as "tryX", "conX", "penX" and "dropX", where "X" can be either "1" or "2", 1 being the "home" team and 2 being the "away" team. A trial of the modifications has been rolled out at 2009 British and Irish Lions tour to South Africa so that you can see how it works. – Pee Jay 12:49, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Maybe the union and league kids can get together and collaborate a new list as well as a new cat regarding league-2-union converts and vice versa..-- Warpath ( talk) 02:11, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Also see Dual-code rugby internationals if you aren't aware of that page Mattlore ( talk) 00:16, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Aside from the dual internationalists, there are a number of converts who are single internationalists, or who have had notable careers without being capped.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 22:19, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Is it me or since Shudde left, people have stop paying attention to articles and WP:RU completely? ...-- Warpath ( talk) 20:41, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
There are still a number of people beavering away, a number of whom use this talk page. I've been trying to create articles on rugby heritage from all corners of the world, and have created one or two Scottish ones. (Although Scottish rugby isn't really receiving much attention on wikipedia unfortunately - especially considering we're the second oldest rugby nation!)
I didn't like the Ireland fiasco myself, since there were several viable all Ireland alternatives available...-- MacRusgail ( talk) 22:19, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to open up a discussion which is going on around 1984 Australia rugby union tour of the British Isles and Ireland. This, and a number of other RU tours have been subject to multiple page name moves and I'm hoping that between us we could thrash out a policy for such tours to establish a definitive name which we can stick with.
Should it be "Britain and Ireland", which is my own preference, "British Isles" - politically controversial... "British Isles and Ireland", which doesn't seem to make a great deal of sense... or "something else"? Suggestions please!-- Bcp67 ( talk) 07:28, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Came across a new article Harold Dingwall Bateson at first I thought it was a hoax as it said he played for Liverpool F.C. so I added speedy tag editor has now added source that he was capped for England could do with expert eyes. BigDunc 21:27, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm going to try and push Arthur Gould (rugby player) for Good Article status. If anyone wants to give the article a quick look over, or better still knows of a photo that can be used would be appreciated. FruitMonkey ( talk) 21:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
I see Arthur Gould has made it to GA status - good work!-- Bcp67 ( talk) 18:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Can I suggest that we should have an article on cross-code rugby? I have put some notes on the hybrid sports page, but it would be interesting to have some material on league-union games. I think these are probably more common than people realise, and took place during the wars in military set ups etc. -- MacRusgail ( talk) 18:25, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Numerous people have, over the past few months, been working dilligently on the Pontypridd RFC wiki, trying to bring it up to scratch. We'd very much appreciate some solid feedback. Thanks so much. -- Monkeynuts2008 ( talk) 15:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Can anyone offer some help? I don't know anything about notability requirements for rugby union teams. I declined the speedy deletion on this userpage, but I had to block the username per WP:ORGNAME. - Dank ( push to talk) 12:43, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated List of 1888–1889 New Zealand Native football team matches for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dabomb87 ( talk) 02:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated myself Template_talk:Did_you_know#1955_British_Lions_tour_to_South_Africa
Bcp67 has told me my edit made him/her "sit up", and this encouraged me to put this up. I don't know how many unusual rugby facts we get on the front page, but I hope you will support this one for the "Did you know?" section.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 19:27, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
The East Africa rugby union team page is now over the 1,500 character minimum for a DYK, I did a bit of expansion of the material. So I may try and resubmit this under the EA article rather than the Lions one. I also suspect that EA may have played other games, but it is very hard to track them down. The article got created yesterday (2:45 am here and I must go to bed), so there's still six days to play with.
By the way, if anyone's interested in the unusual corners of rugby, someone's created this article - Rugby union at the 2009 Maccabiah Games. The Maccabiah are basically the Jewish Olympics (and are partly a political exercise to get people to settle in Israel - but let's not go there!), and the teams that enter are amateurs from the various countries, and not up to the standards of the "real" national teams, but something I wasn't aware of until this year.
I'm hoping this isn't the last rugby DYK I can get. I'm sure there's more. (The South Sea Islanders playing their first international with a tree in the middle of the pitch?) Guid publiceety fur the eggba' an aw that... Thanks for the support. -- MacRusgail ( talk) 01:43, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
East Africa's on the front page today! Thanks for your help.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 14:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Or so they claim.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 15:44, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
As you may know, we currently have 400 good article nominations, with a large number of them being in the sports and recreation section. As such, the waiting time for this is especially long, much longer than it should be. As a result of this, I am asking each sports-related WikiProject to review two or three of these nominations. If this is abided by, then the backlog should be cleared quite quickly. Some projects nominate a lot but don't review, or vice-versa, and following this should help to provide a balance and make the waiting time much smaller so that our articles can actually get reviewed! Wizardman 23:39, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Is there a way to add a link to the source of the infomation found in players infoboxes? I'm thinking of something like the "|source=" field found in template:Infobox cricketer biography. Nev1 ( talk) 17:12, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I recently created an article on Angus Stuart, a little known Cardiff and Dewsbury player who toured with the British Isles team of 1888. On completion I found he linked to a New Zealand tour of 1893, and a list of New Zealand rugby union players. Does anyone have any information linking Angus Stuart from Cardiff to Angus Stuart the New Zealand player. They are surely the same person as Stuart settled in New Zealand after the tour, but I have no proof such as a date/place of birth or death to link the two together, and I don't want to enter information built on assumption. Cheers FruitMonkey ( talk) 12:19, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
I've come across an article named The South (rugby) which describes the South district team which used to play against touring teams (and in the SRU district championship) in the amateur era. The title doesn't seem fully descriptive and I'm proposing to change it to something along the lines of South (Scottish rugby union team) or similar. Any thoughts from anyone?
I think this article would be better with the article, or at "South of Scotland" (edit to add - SoS is probably better). Generally the name would mean anywhere in Scotland, south of the Central Belt (i.e. Glasgow-Edinburgh hinterland), but due to the dominance of the Borders, I suspect few players in it came from Dumfries and Galloway (although there are some notable players from the south west, such as Nick De Luca and Arthur Smith)-- MacRusgail ( talk) 20:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
I've been bold and moved the article to South of Scotland rugby union team. I think "the South" is in common use in Scotland, but is not appropriate as an article title for several reasons. It's fine and well within a purely Scottish rugby context, but within an international one, I don't think it's helpful. -- MacRusgail ( talk) 20:13, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
It might interest people to know that there was an article in The Scotsman the other day about the possible revival of this side.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 17:32, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Why is it impossible for me to edit individual sections on this page now? Is anyone else having this problem? – Pee Jay 06:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
I've been picked up on a GA nominated article that I have used at different times all three spellings. Even the page Rugby union positions has used all three terms in different places. Could we come to a decision on the spellings as it will prevent updates further down the line. I'm going for 'full back' in the article as it appears to be the most common spelling in text books. While we are at it are there other positions that crop up with this problem, such as threequarter, three-quarter and three quarter. Cheers FruitMonkey ( talk) 15:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
I understood that the Sydney club Rugby comp started in 1900 but on the Shute Shield page it only has winners from 1906 onwards. I believe the old Glebe club won 4 titles and 1 each by Eastern Suburbs and the old South Sydney RU club in the period between 1900 and 1905.
Hi all. I was planning to write an article about Reuben Paniora, a New Zealand-born Danish international (17 caps) who played professionally in Spain and passed away last year. Before I start writing, though (I have a good number of sources by the way), I would like to know if my article would be considered worth keeping or would be deleted for lack of notability. What do you think? McMarcoP ( talk) 12:11, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Why not mention him on each of the individual articles?-- MacRusgail ( talk) 11:54, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
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Can someone help fix this? I'm trying to ad this to articles that are relevent such as Mob football. Rowlan ( talk) 15:48, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
I have had conflicting information for the first internationals of each of these countries. I suppose part of the problem is that the top tier rugby nations didn't award caps (for some reason) for teams playing these countries until relatively recently. I would be interested in any feedback on this matter.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 20:22, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Comrade editors, you may be interested in the article I am "growing" at my page User:MacRusgail/Rugby union in the Soviet Union. I intend to try and improve the references, and have got hold of the rugby article in the English language version of the Great Soviet Encyclopedia.
So far, the article perhaps has a bit too much of an emphasis on some of the more unsavoury aspects of the USSR, but getting material has been difficult, and I would appreciate any advice. In particular, there is a story of a brawl in Moscow between Welsh and Romanian players, which resulted in the police getting involved. Some sources put it in the '30s, and others in the '50s. Or did Llanelli visit in both decades? Certainly the claim (in certain books) that it resulted in the game being banned in the USSR for several decades is untrue, although it may have diminished official support. I say this because there is evidence of the game being played in the '50s, '60s, '70s and '80s, and even around the early post-war period.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 20:41, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
There is a fascinating list of people who have played both high level rugby and cricket at List of cricket and rugby union players.
However, a quick look through the articles shows that many of them are heavily biased towards cricket, probably because they've been written off the cricinfo site. I've tried to make some amends, but some of the articles are really bad on the rugby side. For example, the English player Frank Mitchell's rugby career is given only in a tiny paragraph at the end, despite the fact that he captained the national team.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 17:03, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
I notice User:MBelgrano has tagged a number of rugby tour articles such as the 1952 Ireland rugby union tour of South America, British Lions tours, and French tours as "not notable". Needless to say, I have left a note here, and explained that these certainly are "notable". However, given my general lack of faith in Wikipedia bureaucracy, I'm surprised some administrator hasn't gone and deleted them! So keep a look out!
However, one of his/her other tags is perhaps more justifiable, since it was about context. It may be worth providing more context in these articles.-- MacRusgail ( talk) 17:43, 4 October 2009 (UTC)